From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213251548138213264 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c5e9500f8be36997c77942c33e0562b6fe97ad12 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs170632qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr1752540nfj; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si2048416nfb.2006.08.31.10.53.59; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIqbi-0006jE-Mn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:45:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIqbi-0006j5-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:45:38 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIqbe-0001QB-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:45:38 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id BCAC779907 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000301c6cd25$289ed620$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:44:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.022,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Why? 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212891615987154275 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 66eec4045503261abd50812b902df6648bcdfd85 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs548038qbh; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr8041547nfg; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si7811089nfe.2006.08.27.11.33.02; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHPN9-0005Bp-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:28:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHPN9-0005Bg-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:28:39 +0100 Received: from smtp4.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHPN6-0002j3-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:28:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 8490 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 2006 18:27:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.47]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 27 Aug 2006 18:27:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c6ca05$f72ce680$2fbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:23:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.099,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA3FNY cq-ing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6CA16.BA2647C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4369 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6CA16.BA2647C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable O copy here...hope you go on for a while Victor, because I'm just = setting up another RX to compaire.... 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6CA16.BA2647C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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27./08/2006   1038z
 
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owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFz2t-0007Ye-Pl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:09:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFz2t-0007YV-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:09:51 +0100 Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.90]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFz2m-0001zL-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:09:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 4541 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2006 20:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.99]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 23 Aug 2006 20:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c6c6ef$95212aa0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:06:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.338,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF-DFCw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C700.57FA80C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4385 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C700.57FA80C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, thanks Ko, Sabine and Jeff for catching me on their screens. What about the frequenty, is it a bit too high? (to far away from center = of activety?) Glad to see the first report from France, Jeff. 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C700.57FA80C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, thanks Ko, Sabine and Jeff for = catching me on=20 their screens.
 
What about the frequenty, is it a bit = too high? (to=20 far away from center of activety?)
 
Glad to see the first report from = France,=20 Jeff.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C700.57FA80C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212765059983817593 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 80e80e16e18d854ffae1f99dd2477f61003fdec5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs474895qbh; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr6447369nfl; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4015838nfe.2006.08.26.02.01.28; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGu0p-0004bT-Pz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:59:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGu0p-0004bK-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:59:31 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGu0m-0006Rb-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:59:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 15932 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2006 08:59:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=dbaf54OnCdAC5B36vd2MytaoHpN7UWXH+R9+IAvtIv5rvk2O3hR6VI5neiclx5uYdw1eX6OLbj8OPuASQlxOAEQ9SVZrHsdM0eYGOfRXyhl00IyCdQk6ri22O+sYpCcTM7GPNpuzQmg0Aeig5vFymqL4yfR/lfqIB0DN766xI54= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.168 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2006 08:59:21 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000801c6c8ea$e33f0b60$210124d5@jboi0045tiscali> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.296,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: activity on 137700 >DK7SU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C8F6.711269E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4386 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C8F6.711269E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C6C8F6.7113F080" ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C6C8F6.7113F080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jeff, LF, It was DK7SU...screenshot attached.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN Sent: 26 August 2006 09:35 To: LF/EU Subject: LF: activity on 137700 26./08/2006 0833z GM all, I just RX: " 7 SU K" on 137700 QRSS3 73: Jeff F6CWN ( JN09tt) ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C6C8F6.7113F080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Jeff,=20 LF,
 
It was = DK7SU...screenshot=20 attached..
 
73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 F6CWN
Sent: 26 August 2006 09:35
To:=20 LF/EU
Subject: LF: activity on 137700

26./08/2006   0833z
 
GM all,
 
 I just RX: " 7 SU  K" on 137700 = QRSS3
 
 73: Jeff F6CWN ( = JN09tt)
 
 
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(VPS 0634-2, 08/24/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.876,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: activity on 137700 >DK7SU Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C8EE.E635E060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4398 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C8EE.E635E060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 26./08/2006 0905z Thank you Dave, I had just put the receiver "ON"! 73 and TU Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: LF: RE: activity on 137700 >DK7SU Dear Jeff, LF, It was DK7SU...screenshot attached.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN Sent: 26 August 2006 09:35 To: LF/EU Subject: LF: activity on 137700 26./08/2006 0833z GM all, I just RX: " 7 SU K" on 137700 QRSS3 73: Jeff F6CWN ( JN09tt) ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C8EE.E635E060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
26./08/2006   0905z
 
 Thank you Dave, I had just = put the=20 receiver "ON"!
 
 73 and=20 TU
 
Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave G3WCB
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 = 9:00=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: activity on = 137700=20 >DK7SU

Dear Jeff,=20 LF,
 
It was = DK7SU...screenshot=20 attached..
 
73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 F6CWN
Sent: 26 August 2006 09:35
To:=20 LF/EU
Subject: LF: activity on 137700

26./08/2006   0833z
 
GM all,
 
 I just RX: " 7 SU  K" on = 137700=20 QRSS3
 
 73: Jeff F6CWN (=20 JN09tt)
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C8EE.E635E060-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212980074814957910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 41ba655be61ca931406b68f63c4f5ac2038c7976 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs626812qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr168048nfi; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si152617nfe.2006.08.28.14.12.26; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHoM5-0001hq-ID for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:09:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHoM4-0001hh-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:09:12 +0100 Received: from web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.137]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHoLt-0008Rn-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:09:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 14973 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Aug 2006 21:08:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sndqFWRkNcEdwae1kGhbp2H8dwxaSXg3IlQPTsfToQAp9wLsFmOrbFvI+3p90w1r7z+nzoO+kbFv4PWRAYiyewXM+4pMJqXdn+/RxqFiUiKNDvLviSHSaHs7oisClg8zAwLUc2UIUIIToYhV6W337tXc6Gs7UEvJgFCb+SJmNL8= ; Message-ID: <20060828210855.14971.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.14] by web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:08:55 BST Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:08:55 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.676,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ capture Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1157330362-1156799335=:14669" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4414 --0-1157330362-1156799335=:14669 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for the reports and screen shot Gary. I put out a test signal now and again so that any potential 'new boys' will know that there is some activity on the 136 band. Actually activity has been quite good lately. This weekend I worked:- PA3FNY DFCW DK4U Hell / DFCW PA0BWL QRSS and later CW F6BWO QRSS / DFCW Also heard G3YKB DFCW calling DK4U PA3CPM QRSS (?) in the QRN 73 Chris G3XIZ Gary - G4WGT wrote: Hi Chris & LF, Captured just a little while ago. Gary - G4WGT. --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine --0-1157330362-1156799335=:14669 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks for the reports and screen shot Gary.
I put out a test signal now and again so that
any potential 'new boys' will know that there
is some activity on the 136 band.
 
Actually activity has been quite good lately.
This weekend I worked:-
 
PA3FNY  DFCW
DK4U      Hell / DFCW
PA0BWL QRSS and later CW
F6BWO   QRSS / DFCW
 
Also heard
G3YKB    DFCW calling DK4U
PA3CPM QRSS  (?)  in the QRN
 
73 Chris G3XIZ

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Chris & LF,

Captured just a little while ago.

Gary - G4WGT.


All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine --0-1157330362-1156799335=:14669-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212980074814957910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d036a884b868e05a3504304a9b33fcc4fd3bd708 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs622402qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr139106nfl; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si13358nfa.2006.08.28.12.46.02; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHmwE-0001P2-BG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHmwB-0001Ot-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:23 +0100 Received: from lon1-mail-2.visp.demon.net ([193.195.70.5] ident=mirapoint) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHmw7-00074B-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:23 +0100 Received: from lon1-mailstore-2-port0.visp.demon.net (EHLO lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net) ([192.168.217.133]) by lon1-mail-2.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id EMQ22394; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (from lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net [80.189.56.216]) by lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id HGZ77607 (AUTH m0fmt@beeb.net); Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:14 +0100 (BST) From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20060828203814.HGZ77607@lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:38:14 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.546,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ capture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4415 See Chris there are people listening on 136kc/s!!! 73 Pete FMT .... TTFN. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212980074814957910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9b7d184cc9ee8aa7261bdf3f2868332dc25828a8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs615412qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr9299514nfi; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si36036nfa.2006.08.28.10.58.52; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHlL9-0000os-PA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:56:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHlL9-0000oj-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:56:03 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHlL4-0006nX-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:56:03 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2006 18:54:52 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAOPJ8kSLKQICBwQKBwYdgkkE Received: from 88-106-105-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.210]:4071 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GHlJz-000P98-L2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:54:51 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:54:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.653 Subject: LF: G3XIZ capture Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6CAD3.718F1330" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6CAD3.718F1330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris & LF, Captured just a little while ago. 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27./08/2006   1022z
 
GM all,
 
 "Cracking" signs from PA0BWL this=20 morning!
 
73: Jeff in JN09tt
 
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"J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" , Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:54:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.045,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Scope Manual, Amp questions and comments. my old antenna problem Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4423 Hello, Everyone, In doing the transmitter checks, a scope with two reliable channels was needed for the ScopeMatch and for troubleshooting. The local TV repair shop is going out of business and sold me a Hitachi V-680 Dual trace digital storage scope for a very good price. I have the service manual, but neither the operating manual nor the specifications could be located through a websearch which was done earlier today. Does anyone have the operating manual or know where a copy can be obtained? Hitachi has been contacted and their webpages searched, but they do not even show an Oscilloscope. Any tips or clues would be appreciated. Also, does anyone know the advantages and disadvantages of using Bifilar windings on amp output transformers for Push-Pull amps? I do not know if this is usually the case, but when I used the straight winding method, the amplifier ran a lot more power but when I switched to the bifilar winding the output waveform has just a little bit less even order harmonic content. By the way... The amp is working very much better now, with one small caveat. It is also interesting that when the good scope was put in service, it became apparent that the channel on the old scope which had been intermittent also had been indicating a slightly better antenna match than the new scope does. On the Push Pull amp prototype, there is a small amount of high frequency damped wave ringing which occurs just before the positive and negative peaks of the amp output voltage and current waveforms. These damped waves are very small, but will they may be a harbinger of troubles to come if they are ignored, or are they a normal occurrence in these inverter type amps... are they important? The output transformer will be rewound from bifilar to conventional winding and if it has any effect on the damped waves, I will let the group know. Thanks to all for the help getting the transmitter working... There were several problems, all related to being in the VY1JA shack... :o) The main problem was that I misunderstood or my memory failed. I thought the amp was set for input frequency divide-by-two and it was set for divide-by-four. When the HF rig output was doubled from 13.778 to 27.555 MHz, the output waveform of the rig tamed right down. This explains why I was having those really bad antenna waveforms a couple of months back whenever I switched to the prototype amp. When I build my amp shortly, it will only divide by 2 so that I can use the frequency output display of the HF rig. Here too, thanks to all who worked with me to try to solve the antenna matching problem. With a good rig and scopematch in hand, I am looking at revisiting the Variometer. If you remember, I removed it and replaced it with a simple single layer tapped solenoid, with a separate link-coupled air-core impedance matching transformer. Perhaps it is due to the size of the antenna, but the antenna holds its match well even in rain and wind. Yes, the trace moves slightly around but not enough to require a trip outside. When the variometer is redone, I am considering winding it with #12 Thermoplastic insulated building wire, is there any drawback to this in a situation where little inductance is required? 73, J. jallen@yknet.ca From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213167531281075536 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 99a9843e37636c6796c74479875901a244169f4a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs113926qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr170467nfi; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si144759nfb.2006.08.30.12.38.35; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIVmP-0001FL-Ei for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIVmO-0001FC-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:16 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIVmL-0005sa-28 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 48081 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2006 19:31:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=ijbCnjs1J+OX/DamjvC7seR667P6tI60ULONyRajj5SZbg92Sxi+rzLZjZMpxNZ0v3tgNpgULIPHOICQkZ5SN9l7apkQAWIpX6Jj19PYsS8stRwzR+94FzILhX+0f0JcsMDpbGcExbgdvaf2zlZbIGxU6+IeASXvlFIZOEE9pnI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.34.165?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.34.165 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2006 19:31:06 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.7/432]); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c6cc6a$6747db80$a5227ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:27:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.446,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: dcf39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6CC72.C8C92000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4428 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6CC72.C8C92000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Laurence, All seems normal here at this moment (2025utc)... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL1X=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: LF: dcf39 Its just dark in dcf39 land and the signal just coming out of the = noize here in Shanghai (0300 local when I have to do business with the = USA and Europe -) but it looks like its not sending its fsk all the time = - just had a minute at 1853z so of plain carrier - are they still = playing? Signal is already building to a reasonable paint on the screen. =20 =20 Laurence (now going back to bed!) PM01 China -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo! Talk = now!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6CC72.C8C92000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Laurence,
 
All seems normal here at this moment=20 (2025utc)...
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, = 2006 8:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: dcf39

Its just  dark in dcf39 land and the signal just = coming=20 out of the noize here in Shanghai  (0300 local when I have to do = business=20 with the USA and Europe -) but it looks like its not sending its fsk = all the=20 time - just had a minute at 1853z so of plain carrier - are they = still=20 playing? Signal is already building to a reasonable paint on the=20 screen.
 
 
Laurence (now going back to = bed!)
PM01=20 China


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Talk now! ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6CC72.C8C92000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212448085347598370 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 286f17cde9e879ec65c7b904579b419eb848e4c0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs261047qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr1035873nfv; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si1114840nfc.2006.08.22.14.03.12; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdMR-0002N5-4f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:00:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdMQ-0002Mw-QA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:00:34 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFdMM-0006eA-R4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:00:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 2115 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2006 21:00:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.4]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Aug 2006 21:00:23 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c6c62d$83a69c00$04be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:57:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.100,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re: vhf/bmu/wcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4432 nice to see!! Looks as if my signal was quite ok... Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor van kooten" To: "blacksheep" Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: LF: vhf/bmu/wcb > captured PA4VHF,M0BMU and G3WCB > > 73 > Victor,PA3FNY > JO22NC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212972931243749895 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 79447a55c514de92b03f4c0c0d31a8c678060529 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs607777qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr9195361nfl; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si12505906nfc.2006.08.28.09.05.28; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjSy-0008TG-1K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:56:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjSv-0008T7-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:55:57 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHjSr-0006Fw-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:55:57 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2006 16:55:46 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAIiu8kSLKQICBwQKBwYd Received: from 88-106-105-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.210]:3691 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GHjSj-0000IF-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:55:46 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:56:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.101,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4437 Hi Chris, Saw/heard some of your qrss01 test this afternoon, heres the bit I got. G3XIZ IO92AB TEST G3XIZ QRG 137.7 KHZ TEST G3XIZ PWR 150 W TX HB ANT 40 M EFW TEST G3XIZ. Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand the abreviation?? 73 Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e679bdef0a287e91663c9abcffea1de5c52096fc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs399494qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr4711851nff; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si5513210nfa.2006.08.24.17.46.37; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGPnx-0003gp-5Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:44:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGPnw-0003gg-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:44:12 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGPnt-0007E4-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:44:12 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-221.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.221] helo=captbrian) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GGPnr-0007hn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:44:08 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c6c7df$a04eefc0$ddce28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <004301c6c799$71fda5d0$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:43:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.006 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4452 Many ships , both naval and commercial, have covert activities by people who code and decode a continuous wave with an archane on-off device. To divert investigators they refer to the key to their mystic code. But no key to the code has yet been found, just a crude metallic , rocking Icon . The Icon is used in a [presumably flagellatory ] ritual called brass-pounding even when made of steel or rigid plastic. In outward appearance indistinguishable from humans, adherents are Invariably very old and there is some reference to pig-meat in their babblings . The movement is dying out now but adherents show remarkable tenacity in adversity and cling to a system of self-naming , often without vowels . G3GVB and AC4UA are typical examples. ----- Original Message ----- From: ; ; "K�HTF" To: Sent: 24 August 2006 17:22 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message > Thank you for the information! I knew that the 500KHz. Watch was > discontinued but there are many other maritime frequencies. > > A retired navy officer I used to work with told me about nine or so years > ago that a navy ship he visited did have CW. > > TNX ES 73, > > Doc. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Costas Krallis > SV1XV > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:07 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message > > At 09:15 24/8/2006 -0500, you wrote: > > > Do commercial ships still have a CW station just in case > > all else fails? > > No, they don't. > > 73, Costas SV1XV > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c77eab15475686b462bd40e60f241b28b4ef795a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs374283qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr3907032nfj; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si4722253nfc.2006.08.24.09.29.38; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGI26-0000KG-Bn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:26:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGI26-0000K7-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:26:18 +0100 Received: from f2phy.netins.net ([167.142.229.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGI21-0002u4-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:26:18 +0100 X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.56] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.10) with ESMTP id 1021549658 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:22:17 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <004301c6c799$71fda5d0$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20060824190607.03210c20@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.419 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4453 Thank you for the information! I knew that the 500KHz. Watch was discontinued but there are many other maritime frequencies. A retired navy officer I used to work with told me about nine or so years ago that a navy ship he visited did have CW. TNX ES 73, Doc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Costas Krallis SV1XV Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message At 09:15 24/8/2006 -0500, you wrote: > Do commercial ships still have a CW station just in case > all else fails? No, they don't. 73, Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e9717b321a6cdf10ac8cd5aab6231d324d9e2831 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs373401qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr3870166nfe; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si4714394nfc.2006.08.24.09.14.42; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGHjZ-00008d-6R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:07:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGHjY-00008U-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:07:08 +0100 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.6] helo=mx-out-01.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGHjU-0002hR-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:07:08 +0100 Received: from mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7OG6vaD018516 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:06:58 +0300 Received: from mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (mx-in-04.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.163]) by mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7OG6vOU002549 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:06:57 +0300 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp19-195.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.162.195]) by mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7OG6ovO012064 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:06:51 +0300 Authentication-Results: mx-in-04.forthnet.gr from=kkrallis@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20060824190607.03210c20@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:06:53 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <001a01c6c787$b95dea50$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> References: <00b201c6c75a$aeb7c120$96c828c3@captbrian> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.541,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4454 At 09:15 24/8/2006 -0500, you wrote: > Do commercial ships still have a CW station just in case > all else fails? No, they don't. 73, Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9145ecce5101e461a58bfb30280ce7c533d21a9c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs366628qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr3668706nfl; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4511187nfc.2006.08.24.07.23.46; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGG0L-0007qk-Mw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:16:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGG0K-0007qb-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:16:21 +0100 Received: from f1phy.netins.net ([167.142.228.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GGG0G-0007cn-1Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:16:20 +0100 X-netINS-MPP: scanned X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.56] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.10) with ESMTP id 1037746017 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:15:25 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:15:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01c6c787$b95dea50$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00b201c6c75a$aeb7c120$96c828c3@captbrian> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.325 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4455 This reminds me of a post on a Masonic list. Some one took offense at the word "pilgrim" used in a context with Brother John Wayne. The = reply started out with something like this: "John Wayne was an analog = actor...." Do commercial ships still have a CW station just in case all else fails? 73, Doc - K=D8HTF - Iowa, U.S., EN31do -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 03:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Info might be found in old books. Books were a crude system of = recording data without use of magnetism. Invented about 1400 but long since = redundant. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9c9e3a43690541c0043122752d7936802b584375 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs346257qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr3183791nfj; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si3561104nfa.2006.08.24.01.59.53; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGAyF-0005HU-BH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:53:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGAyE-0005HL-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:53:51 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GGAyA-0005e9-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:53:50 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-12.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.12] helo=captbrian) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GGAwv-0007V5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:52:30 +0100 Message-ID: <00b201c6c75a$aeb7c120$96c828c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> <44EB35F8.23534.942E09@localhost> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:45:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4456 Info might be found in old books. Books were a crude system of recording data without use of magnetism. Invented about 1400 but long since redundant. G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: 22 August 2006 16:51 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message No satellite communications!!!! We would have to find some kind of alternative way to transmit signals round the world. Now didn't there used to be something called HF? Where on earth can we get lots of experts in this old-fashioned technology? Mike. G3XDV ========== > It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North > Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite > communications There is a difference between space equipment being > "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, > and the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device > exploded in space. > > 73 > Andr� N4ICK > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 94f50b17a77a8b25eca50fe41664accde8409896 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs289762qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr1821585nfl; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si2268877nfb.2006.08.23.04.31.21; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFqsg-0002WX-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:26:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFqsf-0002VI-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:26:45 +0100 Received: from relay.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.49] helo=relay.dstl.gov.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFqsb-0006zw-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:26:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 21051 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2006 12:26:03 +0100 Received: from warlock.dstl.gov.uk (192.5.29.10) by relay.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 23 Aug 2006 12:26:03 +0100 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D06BF2FD0@mail.dstl.gov.uk> From: Talbot Andrew To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:26:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.037,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6C6A6.E8F75292" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4457 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C6A6.E8F75292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I thought things were getting a bit esoteric for this reflector. Came into the discussion part way through after reading a huge backlog of email after a holiday .... and you know how things are :-) Didn't see the original reference. Andy G4JNT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye Sent: 23 August 2006 12:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Hi Andy, I don't quite know where EMP crept into the discussion. Dick's original E-mail to this reflector was about a paper on Radiation Belt Remediation. http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf This was suggesting using large amounts of VLF to "drain" the artifical radiation belts produced by a High Altitude Nuclear Explosion. The paper was suggesting that the radiation belts would damage low earth orbit satelites - based on the observations of such damage found in the 1960s. I quote ... "The effect of the Starfish Prime HANE on the radiation belts was observed by multiple spacecraft. However, the intense artificial belts injected by the HANE damaged 3 of the 5 satellites operating at the time. Within a small number of days, data transmissions from the Ariel, Transit IVB and TRAAC satellites became intermittent or ceased altogether (Massey, 1964), primarily due to degrading solar cells. Other effects were also noted even in this early case; the transistors flown in the first active communications satellite, Telstar, failed due to radiation exposure, even though the satellite was launched after the Starfish Prime HANE." I was suggesting that modern semiconductor devices and circuit design might be more immune to this kind of radiation damage, so the need for "remediation" might not be as great as was suggested in the paper. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: Talbot Andrew To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - gained from documentation from the 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric bursts designed to generate huge impulses at the ground due to Compton scattering of electrons blasted down from the upper atmosphere. Tests ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe disruption to electronic equipment hundreds to thousands of km away, and are even reputed to have knocked out streetlights at those sorts of distances. I don't see how satellites well above the atmosphere could be disrupted by such an event. Direct satelite damage was very difficult to produce then due to the difficulties of getting close enough - even a 1MT bomb probably has to be within less than a kilometre of a satellite for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics (no blast damage in space !) Satellites are designed to withstand high radiation levels from the sun. Rember the huge programme of Star Wars started in the '80's. Nowadays such close positioning would be easier, of course. So it looks as if satcoms would survive, whereas HF and ground based electronics would not. SRI, fellow amateurs hoping for a return to HF! All info gained from open literature ;-) Andy G4JNT _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre Kesteloot Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Hugh_m0wye wrote: 3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates. It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite communications There is a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device exploded in space. 73 Andr� N4ICK "The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence" "is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s)." "For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, " "or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is" "prohibited and may be unlawful." "This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely upon this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail." "Recipients should note that all e-mail traffic on MOD systems is subject to monitoring and auditing." ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C6A6.E8F75292 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=20 thought things were getting a bit esoteric for this reflector.  = ; Came=20 into the discussion part way through after reading a huge backlog of emai= l after=20 a holiday .... and you know how things are :-)

Didn't=20 see the original reference.

Andy  G4JNT

 



From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Hugh_m0wye
Sent: 23 August 2006 12:05
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming=20 message

Hi Andy,

I don't quite know where EM= P crept into=20 the discussion.

Dick's original E-mail to t= his reflector=20 was about a paper on Radiation Belt Remediation.

htt= p://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf

This was suggesting using l= arge amounts=20 of VLF to "drain" the artifical radiation belts produced by a High=20 Altitude Nuclear Explosion.

The paper was suggesting th= at the=20 radiation belts would damage low earth orbit satelites - based on the=20 observations of such damage found in the 1960s. I quote ...

"The effect of the Starfish Prime HANE on the radiation b= elts was=20 observed by multiple spacecraft. However, the intense artificial belts in= jected=20 by the HANE damaged 3 of the 5 satellites operating at the time. Within a= =20small=20 number of days, data transmissions from the Ariel, Transit IVB and TRAAC = satellites became intermittent or ceased altogether (Massey, 1964), prima= rily=20 due to degrading solar cells. Other effects were also noted even in this = early=20 case; the transistors flown in the first active communications satellite,= =20 Telstar, failed due to radiation exposure, even though the satellite was = launched after the Starfish Prime HANE."

I was suggesting that moder= n=20 semiconductor devices and circuit design might be more immune to this kin= d of=20 radiation damage, so the need for "remediation" might not be as great as = was=20 suggested in the paper.

73

Hugh M0WYE

=20
=  
=20
=  
=20
----- Original Message -----
=20 From:=20 =20 Talbot Andrew =20 =20
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 20= 06 10:14=20 =20 AM
=20
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming = =20 message
=20

=20
My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - gain= ed from=20 =20 documentation from the 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric= =20bursts=20 =20 designed to generate huge impulses at the ground due to Compton scatt= ering of=20 =20 electrons blasted down from the upper atmosphere.
= =20
 
=20
Tests  ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe= =20disruption=20 =20 to electronic equipment hundreds to thousands of km away, and are eve= n reputed=20 =20 to have knocked out streetlights at those sorts of=20 =20 distances.
=20
 
=20
I don't see how satellites well above the at= mosphere=20 =20 could be disrupted by such an event.  Direct satelite damage was= =20very=20 =20 difficult to produce then due to the difficulties of getting close en= ough -=20 =20 even a 1MT bomb probably has to be within less than a kilometre of a = satellite=20 =20 for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics = (no blast=20 =20 damage in space !)  Satellites are designed to withstand high ra= diation=20 =20 levels from the sun.   Rember the huge programme of St= ar Wars=20 =20 started in the '80's.  Nowadays such close positioning woul= d be=20 =20 easier, of course.
=20
 
=20
So it looks as if satcoms would survive, whe= reas HF and=20 =20 ground based electronics would not.   SRI, fellow amateurs = hoping=20 =20 for a return to HF!
=20
 
=20
All info gained from open literature=20 =20 ;-)
=20
 
=20
Andy  G4JNT
=20

 


=20
=20
=20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=20 =20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre= =20 =20 Kesteloot
Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14
To:=20 =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming = =20 message

=20
Hugh_m0wye wrote:=20 =20
=20 =20 =20
=20


=20

3. The=20 =20 supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be based= =20on what=20 =20 happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satelit= e design=20 =20 has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation har= dened"=20 =20 devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of the r= eason for=20 =20 using RBR evaporates.

It= =20could be=20 =20 that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Korean missi= le sent=20 =20 in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite communications
= There is=20 =20 a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" again= st the=20 =20 radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, that could= =20be=20 =20 created by a nuclear device exploded in space.

73
Andr=E9&n= bsp;=20 =20 N4ICK
=20
"The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent=20 =20 correspondence"
"is private and is intended solely for the intende= d=20 =20 recipient(s)."
"For those other than the recipient any disclosure,= =20copying,=20 =20 distribution, "
"or any action taken or omitted to be taken in rel= iance on=20 =20 such information is"
"prohibited and may be=20 unlawful."
"The Information contained in this E-Mail and any=20 subsequent correspondence"
"is private and is intended solely for the = intended recipient(s)."
"For those other than the recipient any disclo= sure,=20 copying, distribution, "
"or any action taken or omitted to be taken i= n=20 reliance on such information is"
"prohibited and may be=20 unlawful."
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C6A6.E8F75292-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ec1281259a72464bb2778d09ef93d90f8a854082 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs289063qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1827763nfi; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si2234250nfe.2006.08.23.04.12.07; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFqYK-0002E3-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFqYJ-0002Du-R1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:43 +0100 Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFqYF-0006rL-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:43 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GFqY5-0001B7-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c6c6a4$0aecdff0$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D06BF2D35@mail.dstl.gov.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.039,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C6AC.5F8F9E00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4458 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C6AC.5F8F9E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, I don't quite know where EMP crept into the discussion. Dick's original E-mail to this reflector was about a paper on Radiation = Belt Remediation. http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf This was suggesting using large amounts of VLF to "drain" the artifical = radiation belts produced by a High Altitude Nuclear Explosion.=20 The paper was suggesting that the radiation belts would damage low earth = orbit satelites - based on the observations of such damage found in the = 1960s. I quote ... "The effect of the Starfish Prime HANE on the radiation belts was = observed by multiple spacecraft. However, the intense artificial belts = injected by the HANE damaged 3 of the 5 satellites operating at the = time. Within a small number of days, data transmissions from the Ariel, = Transit IVB and TRAAC satellites became intermittent or ceased = altogether (Massey, 1964), primarily due to degrading solar cells. Other = effects were also noted even in this early case; the transistors flown = in the first active communications satellite, Telstar, failed due to = radiation exposure, even though the satellite was launched after the = Starfish Prime HANE." I was suggesting that modern semiconductor devices and circuit design = might be more immune to this kind of radiation damage, so the need for = "remediation" might not be as great as was suggested in the paper.=20 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Talbot Andrew=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming message My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - gained from documentation from = the 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric bursts designed to = generate huge impulses at the ground due to Compton scattering of = electrons blasted down from the upper atmosphere. Tests ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe disruption to electronic = equipment hundreds to thousands of km away, and are even reputed to have = knocked out streetlights at those sorts of distances. I don't see how satellites well above the atmosphere could be = disrupted by such an event. Direct satelite damage was very difficult = to produce then due to the difficulties of getting close enough - even a = 1MT bomb probably has to be within less than a kilometre of a satellite = for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics (no = blast damage in space !) Satellites are designed to withstand high = radiation levels from the sun. Rember the huge programme of Star Wars = started in the '80's. Nowadays such close positioning would be easier, = of course. So it looks as if satcoms would survive, whereas HF and ground based = electronics would not. SRI, fellow amateurs hoping for a return to HF! All info gained from open literature ;-) Andy G4JNT -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre Kesteloot Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Hugh_m0wye wrote:=20 3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be = based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. = Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better shielding = and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more = robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates. It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North = Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite = communications There is a difference between space equipment being = "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, and = the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device exploded in = space. 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK "The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent = correspondence" "is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s)." "For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, = distribution, " "or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such = information is" "prohibited and may be unlawful." ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C6AC.5F8F9E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy,

I don't quite know where = EMP crept into=20 the discussion.

Dick's original E-mail to = this reflector=20 was about a paper on Radiation Belt Remediation.

htt= p://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf

This was suggesting using = large amounts=20 of VLF to "drain" the artifical radiation belts produced by a High=20 Altitude Nuclear Explosion.

The paper was suggesting = that the=20 radiation belts would damage low earth orbit satelites - based on the=20 observations of such damage found in the 1960s. I quote = ...

"The effect of the Starfish Prime HANE on the radiation = belts was=20 observed by multiple spacecraft. However, the intense artificial belts = injected=20 by the HANE damaged 3 of the 5 satellites operating at the time. Within = a small=20 number of days, data transmissions from the Ariel, Transit IVB and TRAAC = satellites became intermittent or ceased altogether (Massey, 1964), = primarily=20 due to degrading solar cells. Other effects were also noted even in this = early=20 case; the transistors flown in the first active communications = satellite,=20 Telstar, failed due to radiation exposure, even though the satellite was = launched after the Starfish Prime HANE."

I was suggesting that = modern=20 semiconductor devices and circuit design might be more immune to this = kind of=20 radiation damage, so the need for "remediation" might not be as great as = was=20 suggested in the paper.

73

Hugh M0WYE

 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Talbot Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, = 2006 10:14=20 AM
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Alarming=20 message

My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - = gained from=20 documentation from the 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric = bursts=20 designed to generate huge impulses at the ground due to Compton = scattering of=20 electrons blasted down from the upper atmosphere.
 
Tests  ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe = disruption=20 to electronic equipment hundreds to thousands of km away, and are even = reputed=20 to have knocked out streetlights at those sorts of=20 distances.
 
I don't see how satellites well above the = atmosphere=20 could be disrupted by such an event.  Direct satelite damage was = very=20 difficult to produce then due to the difficulties of getting close = enough -=20 even a 1MT bomb probably has to be within less than a kilometre of a = satellite=20 for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics = (no blast=20 damage in space !)  Satellites are designed to withstand high = radiation=20 levels from the sun.   Rember the huge programme of = Star Wars=20 started in the '80's.  Nowadays such close positioning would = be=20 easier, of course.
 
So it looks as if satcoms would survive, = whereas HF and=20 ground based electronics would not.   SRI, fellow amateurs = hoping=20 for a return to HF!
 
All info gained from open literature=20 ;-)
 
Andy  G4JNT

 



From: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre=20 Kesteloot
Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming=20 message

Hugh_m0wye wrote:=20


3. The=20 supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be based = on what=20 happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satelite = design=20 has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation = hardened"=20 devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of the = reason for=20 using RBR evaporates.

It = could be=20 that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Korean = missile sent=20 in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite = communications
There is=20 a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" = against the=20 radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, that could = be=20 created by a nuclear device exploded in = space.

73
Andr=E9 =20 N4ICK
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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C694.8D701952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - gained from documentation from th= e 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric bursts designed to generat= e huge impulses at the ground due to Compton scattering of electrons blaste= d down from the upper atmosphere. =20 Tests ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe disruption to electronic equipmen= t hundreds to thousands of km away, and are even reputed to have knocked ou= t streetlights at those sorts of distances. =20 I don't see how satellites well above the atmosphere could be disrupted b= y such an event. Direct satelite damage was very difficult to produce then= due to the difficulties of getting close enough - even a 1MT bomb probabl= y has to be within less than a kilometre of a satellite for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics (no blast damage in= space !) Satellites are designed to withstand high radiation levels from= the sun. Rember the huge programme of Star Wars started in the '80's. Nowadays such close positioning would be easier, of course. =20 So it looks as if satcoms would survive, whereas HF and ground based electronics would not. SRI, fellow amateurs hoping for a return to HF! =20 All info gained from open literature ;-) =20 Andy G4JNT =20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre Kesteloot Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Hugh_m0wye wrote:=20 3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be base= d on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satel= ite design has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of t= he reason for using RBR evaporates. It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Kore= an missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite communications There is a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, th= at could be created by a nuclear device exploded in space. 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK "This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely upon this e-mail. 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My understanding of EMP Nuclear bombs - gained from documentation from the 1960s/70s, was that these were exo-atmospheric bursts designed to generate huge impulses at the ground due to Compton scattering of electrons blasted down from the upper atmosphere.
 
Tests  ( on BikiniAtol ?) caused severe disruption to electronic equipment hundreds to thousands of km away, and are even reputed to have knocked out streetlights at those sorts of distances.
 
I don't see how satellites well above the atmosphere could be disrupted by such an event.  Direct satelite damage was very difficult to produce then due to the difficulties of getting close enough - even a 1MT bomb probably has to be within less than a kilometre of a satellite for its direct radiation to be high enough to damage the electronics (no blast damage in space !)  Satellites are designed to withstand high radiation levels from the sun.   Rember the huge programme of Star Wars started in the '80's.  Nowadays such close positioning would be easier, of course.
 
So it looks as if satcoms would survive, whereas HF and ground based electronics would not.   SRI, fellow amateurs hoping for a return to HF!
 
All info gained from open literature ;-)
 
Andy  G4JNT

 



From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andre Kesteloot
Sent: 22 August 2006 16:14
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message

Hugh_m0wye wrote:


3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates.

It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite communications
There is a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device exploded in space.

73
Andr�  N4ICK
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-------------------------------1156268059-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ad5102de3c1c375726cdd8f686c421909b94fa5f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs249313qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr750077nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si831868nfc.2006.08.22.10.19.13; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFZoB-0008NQ-JV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:12:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFZoB-0008NH-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:12:59 +0100 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.6] helo=mx-out-02.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFZo7-0004r6-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:12:59 +0100 Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7MHCs69004054 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:12:54 +0300 Received: from mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (mx-in-03.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.26]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7MHCsNK028649 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:12:54 +0300 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp5-28.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.148.28]) by mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7MHCpJ8010395 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:12:53 +0300 Authentication-Results: mx-in-03.forthnet.gr from=kkrallis@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20060822200714.03673ec0@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:11:29 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <44EB35F8.23534.942E09@localhost> References: <44EB1F43.4050704@verizon.net> <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.601,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4461 At 16:51 22/8/2006 +0100, you wrote: > No satellite communications!!!! We would have to find some kind of > alternative way to transmit signals round the world. Now didn't there > used to be something called HF? Where on earth can we get lots of > experts in this old-fashioned technology? That system (HF radio) became obsolete due to very high costs of training and employing the necessary human operators. Nowdays the frequencies formerly used by HF radio have been silently re-allocated to broadband internet providers over mains electricity power lines. 73 Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 23dbea4e08eb866e8968fc7ea271fd496843d269 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs248213qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr733830nfh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si809860nfb.2006.08.22.10.03.00; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFZXm-00082T-Gf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:56:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFZXl-00082K-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:56:01 +0100 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFZXh-0004hq-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:56:01 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.7.142]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J4E009OESBOMPK4@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:55:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:53:45 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot In-reply-to: <44EB35F8.23534.942E09@localhost> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <44EB3699.1070204@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> <44EB35F8.23534.942E09@localhost> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.524,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4462 Mike Dennison wrote: > No satellite communications!!!! We would have to find some kind of= =20 > alternative way to transmit signals round the world. Now didn't the= re=20 > used to be something called HF? Where on earth can we get lots of= =20 > experts in this old-fashioned technology? > > Mike. G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > =20 but meanwhile, a) we have all become addicted to "bandwidth", and b) many of us (particularly the Military) have learned the benefits o= f=20 obfuscation and content-free explanations, and no longer know how to= =20 create messages that are short and to the point, something rather= =20 crucial in HF :-) 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e20d1df3e23b59983f492f9d8da5ec115c7fce19 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs244450qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr597484nfj; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si722343nfb.2006.08.22.08.58.14; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYX8-0007Dm-Li for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYX8-0007Dd-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:18 +0100 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFYX4-00049a-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:18 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060822155108.ZMSJ15018.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:08 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060822155108.RVKG11710.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:08 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:51:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44EB35F8.23534.942E09@localhost> In-reply-to: <44EB1F43.4050704@verizon.net> References: <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.494,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4463 No satellite communications!!!! We would have to find some kind of alternative way to transmit signals round the world. Now didn't there used to be something called HF? Where on earth can we get lots of experts in this old-fashioned technology? Mike. G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North > Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellite > communications There is a difference between space equipment being > "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, > and the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device > exploded in space. > > 73 > Andr=E9 N4ICK > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b22242a17a16e7f76ef51463924a8da217685457 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs243650qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr605696nfl; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si700275nfc.2006.08.22.08.43.54; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYKn-00070e-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:38:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYKm-00070V-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:38:32 +0100 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFYKj-00041N-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:38:32 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:13100 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFYKi-0000Gg-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:38:28 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c6c600$fda9a150$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:38:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.944 Subject: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4464 Hello Dick, The same issue popped up on an other list last week. After a lot of turmoil it dawned upon some knowledgeable people that the scientists had mixed up transmitter power and radiated power of VLF stations: 1 MW transmitter power and 1 W radiated power. This is far to less to generate the desired effects on propagation. 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b42424fa32cfe760cefa279f322ac67989a681ac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs242440qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr588738nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si666984nfc.2006.08.22.08.20.32; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXzH-0006mE-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:16:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXzG-0006m5-74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:16:18 +0100 Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFXzD-0003oZ-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:16:18 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.32.211]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J4E007DINPPYW2A@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:15:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:14:11 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot In-reply-to: <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <44EB1F43.4050704@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.679,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6MtOesfJTb5Jx/j/elRl/A)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4465 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_6MtOesfJTb5Jx/j/elRl/A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hugh_m0wye wrote: > > > 3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to b= e=20 > based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft.= =20 > Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better=20 > shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites= =20 > are more robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates. > It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North= =20 Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellit= e=20 communications There is a difference between space equipment being "radiation-harden= ed"=20 against the radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc= ,=20 that could be created by a nuclear device exploded in space. 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK --Boundary_(ID_6MtOesfJTb5Jx/j/elRl/A) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hugh_m0wye wrote:


3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a H= ANE seems to be based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates.

It could be that the concerns may be over the possibility of a North Korean missile sent in space to create an EMP and wiping out satellit= e communications
There is a difference between space equipment being "radiation-hardened" against the radiations normally found in space, and the neutrons. etc, that could be created by a nuclear device exploded in space.

73
André  N4ICK
--Boundary_(ID_6MtOesfJTb5Jx/j/elRl/A)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bf82929f8a028ad8926393444bf4e3b577079da9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs241635qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr560019nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si223330nfa.2006.08.22.08.04.34; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXj2-0006Y1-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXj1-0006Xs-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:31 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFXix-00017K-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 43740 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2006 14:59:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.51.106 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2006 14:59:21 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c6c5fb$8e917b80$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.693 Subject: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4466 I seem to remember that ill-thoughtout "experiments" like this have been mooted before. Did not the Americans want a one stage to improve the ionosphere by tipping a lorry load of thin wire dipoles into orbit, the Russians wanted to paint the Artic ice black to make Arctic Russia more habitable. Someone wanted to inject sodium ions into the ionsphere to "improve" it. Fortunately most of these hare-brained schemes have been squelched at an early stage. "HF?? Nobody uses HF for communication these days....do they ??" Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 80f0e87fbd8e5f5a4f498488254ddcb6cb49b391 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs241269qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr543940nfl; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si639422nfa.2006.08.22.07.59.33; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXeB-0006MW-GF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:54:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFXeA-0006MN-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:54:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFXe6-00015f-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:54:30 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GFXdv-0000nr-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:54:15 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c6c5fa$d5d9bb70$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:53:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.029,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C6C603.2C5223E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4467 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C6C603.2C5223E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dick, 1. Was there not a similar scare a few years ago about ionospheric = warming casued by HAARP experiments etc. ? 2. Pat g4gvw makes very valid objections in his E-mail, matters which = seem to be dismissed as "societal not scientific" in the paper by = C.J.Roger et. al. ... "In the extreme, and hopefully unlikely case of a HANE (High Altitude = Nuclear Explosion), the disruption caused during RBR operation would = probably be viewed as acceptable. However, this might not be the case = for an RBRoperating to flush an intense natural injection, although is = clearly a societal rather than a scientific matter." 3. The supposed disruption to satelites caused by a HANE seems to be = based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage space-craft. = Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with better shielding = and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are more = robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates. 4. There doesn't seem to be much discussion of what effect such a high = level VLF field would have directly, it all seems to be about HF = communication.=20 Just some thoughts ... 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick Rollema=20 To: LF-Group=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: LF: Alarming message To All from PA0SE A friend of mine drew my attention to the following rather alarming = message: Van: ARRL Web site [mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org] Verzonden: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 15:31 Aan: pa3alg@xs4all.nl CC: Subscribed ARRL Members: Onderwerp: ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA SB PROP ARL ARLP033 ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA This is a special early edition of the propagation bulletin, three days before the regular Friday publication schedule. The regular bulletin will appear on Friday, August 18. A newspaper article on Monday out of New Zealand reported a = proposed Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project that = could cause major worldwide disruptions to HF radio communication and = GPS navigation. The ''Radiation Belt Remediation'' (RBR) system is envisaged as a method for protecting low earth orbit (LEO) satellites from damage caused by high altitude nuclear detonations or severe solar storms. Testing the system would use extremely = high intensity very low frequency (VLF) radio waves to flush particles from radiation belts and dump them into the upper atmosphere. When I first heard of this on Monday morning, I thought it must be something from a fringe web site peddling dark conspiracy = theories. But the newspaper reporting the news is real, and so is the team = of scientists from New Zealand, the UK and Finland whose study of possible effects of the scheme is reported in a recent edition of Annales Geophysicae. You can find the article here: http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf A web page from the University of Otago describing the research is here: = http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/RBR_Media_release_8Aug06.ht= m I contacted the lead researcher on the team reporting the possible effects of the project, Dr. Craig Rodger of the Physics Department at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand. He proved = very cooperative, accessible and helpful, and told me RBR is a serious project, ''money is starting to appear to investigate it in more detail'', and ''U.S. scientists with military connections are = treating it seriously''. It is feared that testing the system could shut down worldwide HF communications for several days to a week, rendering the = ionosphere a giant sponge for RF. I sent Dr. Rodger a comment from Ward Silver, N0AX, who speculated ''the sheer energy needed to accomplish it would tend to rule it = out from the start, and I don't know where they would erect the necessary antennas.'' Dr. Rodger responded, ''This would be true, but they are hoping to rely on some of the non-linear processes in space plasmas, = stealing the energy from the radiation belts to get the wave-amplitudes = high enough. We know this is possible (in theory), as it happens naturally already. We don't know how easy it will be to get it happening under our control''. ''Also, as for erecting the antenna, there are two plans. One is = to fly VLF antenna in space. This could be a power problem. But for ground-based systems, you probably already know that most major naval powers have big VLF transmitters dotted over the globe. = (Two of the US Navy transmitters radiate one megawatt). While these = are designed to keep the signals mostly under the ionosphere, it shows the possibility for building big powerful antenna''. You can read Monday's article from the New Zealand Herald, here: = http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=3D1ObjectID=3D10396164 If you would like to make a comment or have a tip for our readers, email the author at, k7ra@arrl.net. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C6C603.2C5223E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dick,
1. Was there not a similar scare a few = years ago=20 about ionospheric warming casued by HAARP experiments etc. = ?

2. Pat g4gvw makes very = valid objections=20 in his E-mail, matters which seem to be dismissed as "societal not = scientific"=20 in the paper by C.J.Roger et. al. ...

"In the=20 extreme, and hopefully unlikely case of a HANE = (High=20 Altitude Nuclear Explosion), the disruption caused during RBR operation would probably be viewed as = acceptable.=20 However, this might not be the case for an = RBRoperating=20 to flush an intense natural injection, = although is=20 clearly a societal rather than a scientific=20 matter."

3. The supposed disruption to = satelites caused by=20 a HANE seems to be based on what happened to Telstar and similar vintage = space-craft. Surely satelite design has progressed since then, with = better=20 shielding and "radiation hardened" devices being used. If satelites are = more=20 robust then much of the reason for using RBR evaporates.

4. There doesn't seem to be much = discussion of=20 what effect such a high level VLF field would have directly, it all = seems to be=20 about HF communication.

Just some thoughts = ...

73

Hugh M0WYE

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick=20 Rollema
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 = 10:49=20 AM
Subject: LF: Alarming = message

To All from=20 PA0SE

A friend of mine drew my attention to the following = rather=20 alarming message:

Van: ARRL Web site = [mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org]
Verzonden:=20 woensdag 16 augustus 2006 15:31
Aan: pa3alg@xs4all.nl
CC: = Subscribed ARRL=20 Members:
Onderwerp: ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA

SB PROP = ARL=20 ARLP033
ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA

This is a special = early=20 edition of the propagation bulletin, three
days before the = regular=20 Friday publication schedule.  The regular
bulletin will = appear on=20 Friday, August 18.

A newspaper article on Monday out of New = Zealand=20 reported a proposed
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency = (DARPA)=20 project that could
cause major worldwide disruptions to HF = radio=20 communication and GPS
navigation.  The ''Radiation Belt=20 Remediation'' (RBR) system is
envisaged as a method for = protecting low=20 earth orbit (LEO)
satellites from damage caused by high = altitude=20 nuclear detonations
or severe solar storms.  Testing the = system=20 would use extremely high
intensity very low frequency (VLF) = radio waves=20 to flush particles
from radiation belts and dump them into the = upper=20 atmosphere.

When I first heard of this on Monday morning, I = thought=20 it must be
something from a fringe web site peddling dark = conspiracy=20 theories.
But the newspaper reporting the news is real, and so = is the=20 team of
scientists from New Zealand, the UK and Finland whose = study=20 of
possible effects of the scheme is reported in a recent = edition=20 of
Annales Geophysicae.

You can find the article = here:

http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-20= 25.pdf

A=20 web page from the University of Otago describing the research=20 is
here:

http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/RBR_Medi= a_release_8Aug06.htm

I=20 contacted the lead researcher on the team reporting the=20 possible
effects of the project, Dr. Craig Rodger of the = Physics=20 Department
at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New = Zealand.  He=20 proved very
cooperative, accessible and helpful, and told me = RBR is a=20 serious
project, ''money is starting to appear to investigate = it in=20 more
detail'', and ''U.S. scientists with military connections = are=20 treating
it seriously''.

It is feared that testing the = system=20 could shut down worldwide HF
communications for several days to = a week,=20 rendering the ionosphere
a giant sponge for RF.

I sent = Dr.=20 Rodger a comment from Ward Silver, N0AX, who speculated
''the = sheer=20 energy needed to accomplish it would tend to rule it out
from = the=20 start, and I don't know where they would erect the
necessary=20 antennas.''

Dr. Rodger responded, ''This would be true, but = they=20 are hoping to
rely on some of the non-linear processes in space = plasmas, stealing
the energy from the radiation belts to get = the=20 wave-amplitudes high
enough.  We know this is possible (in = theory), as it happens
naturally already.  We don't know = how easy=20 it will be to get it
happening under our = control''.

''Also, as=20 for erecting the antenna, there are two plans.  One is = to
fly VLF=20 antenna in space.  This could be a power problem.  But=20 for
ground-based systems, you probably already know that most=20 major
naval powers have big VLF transmitters dotted over the=20 globe.  (Two
of the US Navy transmitters radiate one=20 megawatt).  While these are
designed to keep the signals = mostly=20 under the ionosphere, it shows
the possibility for building big = powerful antenna''.

You can read Monday's article from the = New=20 Zealand Herald, here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=3D1Ob= jectID=3D10396164

If=20 you would like to make a comment or have a tip for our = readers,
email=20 the author at,=20 = k7ra@arrl.net.




------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C6C603.2C5223E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0d0974d1c7f24bc0010e3b7192dfc8e01d648e48 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs237903qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr469025nfj; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si112055nfb.2006.08.22.07.10.33; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFWtT-0005rV-6A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFWtS-0005rM-QA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFWtO-0000tS-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:14 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.c3f.5f1091 (43931) for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:04:39 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.329,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1156255479" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4468 -------------------------------1156255479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great site Mike! Thanks for that - I hadn't come avross that one before 73 de pat g4gvw -------------------------------1156255479 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great site Mike! Thanks for that - I hadn't come avross that one=20 before
 
73 de pat g4gvw
-------------------------------1156255479-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212409830910288796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b0f90fd18f6087598d00bcf8dbf1c34f2f1220a8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs227425qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr208513nfl; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si263746nfb.2006.08.22.03.55.15; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFToy-00043u-3U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:49:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFTox-00043l-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:49:23 +0100 Received: from fep03.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFTot-0001Tg-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:49:23 +0100 Received: from mikes ([210.86.85.133]) by fep03.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060822104858.FBRS208.fep03.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:48:58 +1200 Message-ID: <001701c6c5d8$900851f0$0301010a@mikes> From: "Mike McAlevey" To: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:48:54 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.867,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C63D.24E2B5E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4469 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C63D.24E2B5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dick, scary stuff!=20 Some more of Craig Rodger's work can be seen at = http://webflash.ess.washington.edu/ which has a nice VLF active antenna = design. Mike ZL4OL ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C63D.24E2B5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dick,
 
scary stuff!
Some more of Craig Rodger's work can be = seen at http://webflash.ess.washingt= on.edu/ which=20 has a nice VLF active antenna design.
 
Mike ZL4OL
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C63D.24E2B5E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212586747391221190 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7f9ce33ffd31872a5c39c7e297f53e5b498f4bc4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs348662qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr3267807nfj; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si3405219nfa.2006.08.24.02.47.16; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGBlT-0005sF-LG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:44:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGBlT-0005s6-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:44:43 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GGBlN-0005uL-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:44:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 55006 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2006 09:44:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=02/a1DQqLjH3LP19dM54q+6ZlamZDVChC9Sx5waU1oM2E/tCMX1xW1xAX5fNp3m1MVaIhhv234BcehNWCdNfdZGRNWiysR+VcO1hic+ZFXTlc2htPLOZN8MvfvL4IPdYthSHG0nuHbZr2Suu1zmT1K6+5ispz4SslAq7zbirp2s= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.1.50 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2006 09:44:31 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.5/426]); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:41:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c6c761$79673580$32018351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001901c6c6b4$02801840$563f8351@w4o8m9> <000d01c6c75e$a869d840$32018351@w4o8m9> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:41:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.677,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C769.DB0A0BC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4472 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C769.DB0A0BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...Came back on at around 0935utc Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Moritz=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 Dear LF Group, DCF39 seems to be off again this morning, with the "sweeping carrier" = audible from time to time. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C769.DB0A0BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...Came back on at around = 0935utc
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 James Moritz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 = 10:21=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: DCF39

Dear LF Group,
 
DCF39 seems to be off again this = morning, with=20 the "sweeping carrier" audible from time to time.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de = M0BMU
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C769.DB0A0BC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213165748177779928 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 35df68180309ad97ea90996f2033377381700cd6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112688qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr150675nfj; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si113877nfa.2006.08.30.12.10.14; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIVM9-00015T-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:04:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIVM8-00015K-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:04:08 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s1.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIVM4-0004mX-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:04:08 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W13 ([207.46.11.176]) by bay0-omc1-s1.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:03:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [222.64.11.197] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:03:58 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2006 19:03:59.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C87C500:01C6CC67] X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.103,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_eb0bc9b0-82c5-419c-ae82-361a7589b078_" Subject: LF: dcf39 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4475 --_eb0bc9b0-82c5-419c-ae82-361a7589b078_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its just dark in dcf39 land and the signal just coming out of the noize he= re in Shanghai (0300 local when I have to do business with the USA and Eur= ope -) but it looks like its not sending its fsk all the time - just had a = minute at 1853z so of plain carrier - are they still playing? Signal is alr= eady building to a reasonable paint on the screen. =20 =20 Laurence (now going back to bed!) PM01 China _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo! http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=3D7adb59de-a857-45ba-81cc-= 685ee3e858fe= --_eb0bc9b0-82c5-419c-ae82-361a7589b078_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Its just  dark in dcf39 land and the signal just coming out of t= he noize here in Shanghai  (0300 local when I have to do business with= the USA and Europe -) but it looks like its not sending its fsk all the ti= me - just had a minute at 1853z so of plain carrier - are they still p= laying? Signal is already building to a reasonable paint on the screen.
 
 
Laurence (now going back to bed!)
PM01 China


Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even th= ose on Yahoo! Talk now!=0A= = --_eb0bc9b0-82c5-419c-ae82-361a7589b078_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213174481036288661 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bdea42d4e21ad7ca335cb9bfb96ef0037126efd0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs124761qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr405699nff; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si488670nfc.2006.08.30.16.48.40; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIZk6-0002Mb-1I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:45:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIZk4-0002MS-PA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:45:08 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIZjz-0007wN-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:45:08 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.143]) by bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:44:57 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:44:57 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.84.188 by BAY118-DAV5.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:44:52 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.84.188] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" References: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:44:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0029.3000 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:44:52 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2006 23:44:57.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CC5EDA0:01C6CC8E] X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.616,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: Re: [LW] Re: LF: Fw: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4515 That would be wonderful Ralph. Very sad to hear of his passing. I have and continue to use his software. A very generous man he was. Mike WE0H ----- Original Message ----- From: "W5JGV (Ralph Hartwell)" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [LW] Re: LF: Fw: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) > > Perhaps someone can take over his website to keep the > > information available. The programs are particularly valuable > > to LF operators and there is relatively little else out there > > suitable for LF antennas. > > I have archived his entire website. > > If Reg's family chooses to close his website, and should they so desire, > I can make either the individual files or his entire website available > on one of my websites. > > 73, > > Ralph W5JGV - WC2XSR/13 - WD2XSH/7 > > http://w5jgv.com > http://500kc.com > http://spectrotek.com > http://kc5cah.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213174481036288661 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cc93b97d11ed496f5a3b16e1415ca9a83ca99e09 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs120678qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr273715nfi; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si327017nfa.2006.08.30.15.02.42; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIY5c-0001ob-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIY5b-0001oS-Az for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:59:15 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIY5X-0005fC-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:59:15 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060830215858m1200mr1i4e>; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:59:03 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:58:57 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, , Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector),"Alan Melia" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:58:57 +0000 Message-Id: <083020062158.28261.44F60A21000362E500006E6522058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.641 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4516 Hi Alan, Sad news indeed. I had thought of asking Reg for some background on his models but never got 'round to it. Perhaps someone can take over his website to keep the information available. The programs are particularly valuable to LF operators and there is relatively little else out there suitable for LF antennas. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Alan Melia" > Hi all Some of you may have seen this sad news I just collected from a UK > NG. I have suggested that the family try to find a way of keeping his web > site flying as a memorial to the efforts he put into Amateur Radio on-line. > > It is sad to have to make this comment but the address lines of the posters > suggest that the mail is genuine > > Alan Melia G3NYK > --------------------------------------------snip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Reg Edwards > Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur > Sent: 30 August 2006 13:44 > Subject: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) > > > > We regret to inform you of the passing away of Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) on > > Monday 28th August 2006. We would like to thank all correspondants on > > his behalf for the many years of entertainment that you have given > > him. > > > > Regards, > > > > The Edwards Family > > > > peteredw@blueyonder.co.uk > > jeanproctor@hotmail.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213174481036288661 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 76ad6d43ca41b1455b0e7dc9de3e5d9e0d725e5b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs119234qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr287938nfi; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si280186nfb.2006.08.30.14.29.03; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIXWZ-0001eX-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:23:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIXWZ-0001eO-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:23:03 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIXWW-0006mC-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:23:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 83810 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2006 21:21:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=kI6uGnKzHLeW1PW/1cbgJ9Tqe8cIhy/wTbFN9fFv8CKPE/VuN53PW4MQ18IEkjkxC5/TLe6DKhsfOVYeeJKXrBFpp/w6NUCoWT/SR4A1sd1/fc3bdaCIuACeWvVmD01jpgh7hTcICkuyKTypT1FEWWoe5AV4mAd/oB48bG1qBEY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.117.234 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2006 21:21:54 -0000 Message-ID: <006b01c6cc7a$54419b60$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: , Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:13:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.541 Subject: LF: Fw: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4517 Hi all Some of you may have seen this sad news I just collected from a UK NG. I have suggested that the family try to find a way of keeping his web site flying as a memorial to the efforts he put into Amateur Radio on-line. It is sad to have to make this comment but the address lines of the posters suggest that the mail is genuine Alan Melia G3NYK --------------------------------------------snip ----- Original Message ----- From: Reg Edwards Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur Sent: 30 August 2006 13:44 Subject: Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) > We regret to inform you of the passing away of Reg Edwards (G4FGQ) on > Monday 28th August 2006. We would like to thank all correspondants on > his behalf for the many years of entertainment that you have given > him. > > Regards, > > The Edwards Family > > peteredw@blueyonder.co.uk > jeanproctor@hotmail.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212509151608325109 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 25ce91ac8212b5f313c38aeede917306679e3d92 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs47566qbh; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr1753147nfl; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si490597nfc.2006.08.29.14.27.12; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIAye-0005en-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:18:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIAye-0005ee-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:18:32 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIAyY-000631-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:18:31 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.329.b551144 (42809) for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:18:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <329.b551144.32260914@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:18:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.050,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_329.b551144.32260914_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4527 --part1_329.b551144.32260914_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Alan and Geri, ... I have to confess that I had actually sent an eMail to the EFR back in=20 2000, suggesting 85% energy savings (and less Luxembourg QRM for us) by redu= cing=20 idle carrier power by 13 dB (http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/to_efr.txt). For=20 propagation monitoring in sub-Hz bandwidth you would of course get a weaker=20 carrier, but probably not be disturbed by the power change during the relati= vely=20 wideband FSK telegrams. Anyway I think their current instabilities seem to b= e=20 related to technical problems rather than intentional actions. One thing I have been pondering is that if we would record the carrier phase= =20 evolution locally and distribute it by internet, a distant monitoring statio= n=20 could use that information to deconvolve the received DCF signal and narrow=20= it=20 down from about 0.1 Hz to any sub-milliHz bandwidth, gaining at least 20 dB=20 in sensitivity. We could reference the phase log to GPS-derived 138830 Hz,=20 which would enable the use of coherent signal processing techniques as sugge= sted=20 by G3PLX and others. A practical data format could be IQ pairs at one sample= =20 per second, with a new file starting every full hour. 73 de Markus, DF6NM In einer eMail vom 29.08.2006 11:55:50 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= =20 alan.melia@btinternet.com:=20 > Hi Geri, mmmm I hope not, because random changes in level will kill it as=20= a > useful beacon source, and relagate it to the category of QRM. >=20 > Cheers de Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW > To: > Sent: 29 August 2006 05:43 > Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 >=20 >=20 > Hello Markus, >=20 > very interesting graph. >=20 > I guess at the currently high energy costs someone at the Europ=E4ischen > Funkrundsteuerung GmbH (EFR) must have started to think if it is really > necessary to put a 40 to 50 kW permanent carrier on the air to remotely > switch on and off street lamp. These 3 dB steps might be tests for a syste= m > to reduce the carrier level at least between the telegrams to save costs. >=20 > Best 73 >=20 > Geri, DK8KW / W1KW / DI2BO >=20 >=20 --part1_329.b551144.32260914_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Alan and Geri,

... I have to confess that I had actually sent an eMail to the EFR back in 2= 000, suggesting 85% energy savings (and less Luxembourg QRM for us) by reduc= ing idle carrier power by 13 dB (http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/to_efr.txt). For propagation mon= itoring in sub-Hz bandwidth you would of course get a weaker carrier, but pr= obably not be disturbed by the power change during the relatively wideband F= SK telegrams. Anyway I think their current instabilities seem to be related=20= to technical problems rather than intentional actions.

One thing I have been pondering is that if we would record the carrier phase= evolution locally and distribute it by internet, a distant monitoring stati= on could use that information to deconvolve the received DCF signal and narr= ow it down from about 0.1 Hz to any sub-milliHz bandwidth, gaining at least=20= 20 dB in sensitivity. We could reference the phase log to GPS-derived 138830= Hz, which would enable the use of coherent signal processing techniques as=20= suggested by G3PLX and others. A practical data format could be IQ pairs at=20= one sample per second, with a new file starting every full hour.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 29.08.2006 11:55:50 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= alan.melia@btinternet.com:

Hi Geri, mmmm I hope not, becau= se random changes in level will kill it as a
useful beacon source, and relagate it to the category of QRM.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW <geri@dk8kw.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 29 August 2006 05:43
Subject: Re: LF: DCF39


Hello Markus,

very interesting graph.

I guess at the currently high energy costs someone at the Europ=E4ischen
Funkrundsteuerung GmbH (EFR) must have started to think if it is really
necessary to put a 40 to 50 kW permanent carrier on the air to remotely
switch on and off street lamp. These 3 dB steps might be tests for a system<= BR> to reduce the carrier level at least between the telegrams to save costs.
Best 73

Geri, DK8KW / W1KW / DI2BO



--part1_329.b551144.32260914_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212509151608325109 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a7da3a48f9410c7e158fcc9e82fdbd4f7f94826d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs516qbh; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr821672nfk; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si64571nfa.2006.08.29.03.00.10; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GI0IO-0003sr-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:54:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GI0IN-0003si-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:54:11 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GI0II-00023v-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:54:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 2378 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2006 09:54:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=t7ZGFHlPmCp2WczZ9GXFc3pCl5hpfuANpp0vn8AV7MlAbFi3IjvnJf+meYwUk0EINvMPeVjNFHcEeHVjCr77b2To/lUMDljL2DKbcgt9pSqkXgpUd+YSy0it39ynt2F05lQxuK7jtv3W1rAdOApjeDi2tBmfl+YLbtdarumh2pM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.27.116 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2006 09:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: <002501c6cb51$0e692880$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <584.3adc3c8.3224be5f@aol.com> <001c01c6cb25$9d825270$0100a8c0@W1KW> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:30:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.671 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4528 Hi Geri, mmmm I hope not, because random changes in level will kill it as a useful beacon source, and relagate it to the category of QRM. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW To: Sent: 29 August 2006 05:43 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Hello Markus, very interesting graph. I guess at the currently high energy costs someone at the Europ�ischen Funkrundsteuerung GmbH (EFR) must have started to think if it is really necessary to put a 40 to 50 kW permanent carrier on the air to remotely switch on and off street lamp. These 3 dB steps might be tests for a system to reduce the carrier level at least between the telegrams to save costs. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / W1KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkusVester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Dear LF group, stimulated by Jim's observation of DCF-39 outages, I set up SpecLab's plotter to monitor the 138.83 kHz carrier from Sunday afternoon till tonight. The two dark blue traces show the maximum and mininimum amplitudes within each two minute measurement interval. The usual 3 mV/m carrier, attenuated at the passband edge, places the upper trace at about 40% relative magnitude. The minimum trace reflects the energy spread during the short telegrams, about -8dBc when smeared by 0.34 Hz resolution bandwidth. On Sunday afternoon, I aurally observed many short interruptions, where the carrier went off completely after a telegram, and ramped back up after a couple of seconds. These appear as dips to zero in the minimum trace. There was also a long outage between 12:00 and 14:15. Another interesting feature is the apparent power switching. These 3 dB steps were again accompanied by short breaks, and occured at 20:40 (up), Monday 5:40 (down), 7:40 (up), 8:50 (down), 9:10 (up), 9:35 (down). The light blue trace shows the recorded azimut, which should of course be constant and due north. The irregular nighttime variations are usually introduced by ionospheric multipath. However the slower daytime deviations (300 to 350 degrees) are an artifact due to E-field antenna detuning by moisture. This "summer antenna" is a just piece of wire strung among the branches of a fir tree, and series resonated with about 10 mH. Whenever it starts to rain (which was often, e.g. at 16:05), its phase is retarded and the apparent azimuth deviates clockwise, letting the SXV trace on my grabber display turn from orange to greenish (makes sense doesn't it ;-) I have tried to minimize this by loading the antenna with a high receiver input impedance, but there is probably also a direct dielectric effect disturbing the local electric field. The red traces and dots are for SXV around 135.75 kHz. They show the usual morning and afternoon fieldstrength minima, as well as the same weather artifacts in azimuth. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212509151608325109 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f027cbde86f8996a7d574206f54a94d3765963d0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs6395qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.94.20 with SMTP id w20mr542212nfl; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si274977nfb.2006.08.28.21.46.58; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHvR2-00037M-76 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:42:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHvR1-00037D-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:42:47 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHvQx-0003HK-Q2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:42:47 +0100 Received: from [217.251.227.102] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1GHvQt2aD1-0003KM; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:42:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001c01c6cb25$9d825270$0100a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <584.3adc3c8.3224be5f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:43:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.009,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6CB36.6047AB60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4529 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6CB36.6047AB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus, very interesting graph. I guess at the currently high energy costs someone at the Europ=E4ischen = Funkrundsteuerung GmbH (EFR) must have started to think if it is really = necessary to put a 40 to 50 kW permanent carrier on the air to remotely = switch on and off street lamp. These 3 dB steps might be tests for a = system to reduce the carrier level at least between the telegrams to = save costs. =20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / W1KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MarkusVester@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Dear LF group, stimulated by Jim's observation of DCF-39 outages, I set up SpecLab's = plotter to monitor the 138.83 kHz carrier from Sunday afternoon till = tonight. The two dark blue traces show the maximum and mininimum amplitudes = within each two minute measurement interval. The usual 3 mV/m carrier, = attenuated at the passband edge, places the upper trace at about 40% = relative magnitude. The minimum trace reflects the energy spread during = the short telegrams, about -8dBc when smeared by 0.34 Hz resolution = bandwidth. On Sunday afternoon, I aurally observed many short interruptions, = where the carrier went off completely after a telegram, and ramped back = up after a couple of seconds. These appear as dips to zero in the = minimum trace. There was also a long outage between 12:00 and 14:15. Another interesting feature is the apparent power switching. These 3 = dB steps were again accompanied by short breaks, and occured at 20:40 = (up), Monday 5:40 (down), 7:40 (up), 8:50 (down), 9:10 (up), 9:35 = (down). The light blue trace shows the recorded azimut, which should of course = be constant and due north. The irregular nighttime variations are = usually introduced by ionospheric multipath. However the slower daytime deviations (300 to 350 degrees) are an = artifact due to E-field antenna detuning by moisture. This "summer = antenna" is a just piece of wire strung among the branches of a fir = tree, and series resonated with about 10 mH. Whenever it starts to rain = (which was often, e.g. at 16:05), its phase is retarded and the apparent = azimuth deviates clockwise, letting the SXV trace on my grabber display = turn from orange to greenish (makes sense doesn't it ;-) I have tried to = minimize this by loading the antenna with a high receiver input = impedance, but there is probably also a direct dielectric effect = disturbing the local electric field. The red traces and dots are for SXV around 135.75 kHz. They show the = usual morning and afternoon fieldstrength minima, as well as the same = weather artifacts in azimuth. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6CB36.6047AB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus,
 
very interesting graph.
 
I guess at the currently high energy = costs someone=20 at the Europ=E4ischen = Funkrundsteuerung GmbH=20 (EFR) must have started to think if it is really necessary to put a 40 = to 50 kW=20 permanent carrier on the air to remotely switch on and off street = lamp.=20 These 3 dB steps might be tests for a system to reduce the carrier = level at=20 least between the telegrams to save costs.  
 
Best=20 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / W1KW / DI2BO
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 MarkusVester@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 = 11:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DCF39

Dear LF group,

stimulated by = Jim's=20 observation of DCF-39 outages, I set up SpecLab's plotter to monitor = the=20 138.83 kHz carrier from Sunday afternoon till tonight.

The two = dark=20 blue traces show the maximum and mininimum amplitudes within each two = minute=20 measurement interval. The usual 3 mV/m carrier, attenuated at the = passband=20 edge, places the upper trace at about 40% relative magnitude. The = minimum=20 trace reflects the energy spread during the short telegrams, about = -8dBc when=20 smeared by 0.34 Hz resolution bandwidth.

On Sunday afternoon, I = aurally=20 observed many short interruptions, where the carrier went off = completely after=20 a telegram, and ramped back up after a couple of seconds. These appear = as dips=20 to zero in the minimum trace. There was also a long outage between = 12:00 and=20 14:15.

Another interesting feature is the apparent power = switching.=20 These 3 dB steps were again accompanied by short breaks, and occured = at 20:40=20 (up), Monday 5:40 (down), 7:40 (up), 8:50 (down), 9:10 (up), 9:35=20 (down).

The light blue trace shows the recorded azimut, which = should of=20 course be constant and due north. The irregular nighttime variations = are=20 usually introduced by ionospheric multipath.

However the slower = daytime=20 deviations (300 to 350 degrees) are an artifact due to E-field antenna = detuning by moisture. This "summer antenna" is a just piece of wire = strung=20 among the branches of a fir tree, and series resonated with about 10 = mH.=20 Whenever it starts to rain (which was often, e.g. at 16:05), its phase = is=20 retarded and the apparent azimuth deviates clockwise, letting the SXV = trace on=20 my grabber display turn from orange to greenish (makes sense doesn't = it ;-) I=20 have tried to minimize this by loading the antenna with a high = receiver input=20 impedance, but there is probably also a direct dielectric effect = disturbing=20 the local electric field.

The red traces and dots are for SXV = around=20 135.75 kHz. They show the usual morning and afternoon fieldstrength = minima, as=20 well as the same weather artifacts in azimuth.

73 and best=20 wishes
Markus, DF6NM


------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6CB36.6047AB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212509151608325109 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 06eb7dc7199ff34c3c67f59af2dcb9dc3ae4e61d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs628879qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr205917nfh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si52282nfc.2006.08.28.14.54.56; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHp21-0001v5-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:52:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHp20-0001uw-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:52:32 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHp1v-0007X9-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:52:32 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.584.3adc3c8 (58677) for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <584.3adc3c8.3224be5f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:47:11 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.000,HTML_00_10=0.138,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_584.3adc3c8.3224be5f_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4530 --part1_584.3adc3c8.3224be5f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_584.3adc3c8.3224be5f_alt_boundary" --part1_584.3adc3c8.3224be5f_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF group, stimulated by Jim's observation of DCF-39 outages, I set up SpecLab's plotter to monitor the 138.83 kHz carrier from Sunday afternoon till tonight. The two dark blue traces show the maximum and mininimum amplitudes within each two minute measurement interval. The usual 3 mV/m carrier, attenuated at the passband edge, places the upper trace at about 40% relative magnitude. The minimum trace reflects the energy spread during the short telegrams, about -8dBc when smeared by 0.34 Hz resolution bandwidth. On Sunday afternoon, I aurally observed many short interruptions, where the carrier went off completely after a telegram, and ramped back up after a couple of seconds. These appear as dips to zero in the minimum trace. There was also a long outage between 12:00 and 14:15. Another interesting feature is the apparent power switching. These 3 dB steps were again accompanied by short breaks, and occured at 20:40 (up), Monday 5:40 (down), 7:40 (up), 8:50 (down), 9:10 (up), 9:35 (down). The light blue trace shows the recorded azimut, which should of course be constant and due north. The irregular nighttime variations are usually introduced by ionospheric multipath. However the slower daytime deviations (300 to 350 degrees) are an artifact due to E-field antenna detuning by moisture. This "summer antenna" is a just piece of wire strung among the branches of a fir tree, and series resonated with about 10 mH. Whenever it starts to rain (which was often, e.g. at 16:05), its phase is retarded and the apparent azimuth deviates clockwise, letting the SXV trace on my grabber display turn from orange to greenish (makes sense doesn't it ;-) I have tried to minimize this by loading the antenna with a high receiver input impedance, but there is probably also a direct dielectric effect disturbing the local electric field. The red traces and dots are for SXV around 135.75 kHz. They show the usual morning and afternoon fieldstrength minima, as well as the same weather artifacts in azimuth. 73 and best wishes Markus, DF6NM --part1_584.3adc3c8.3224be5f_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF group,

stimulated by Jim's observation of DCF-39 outages, I set up SpecLab's plotte= r to monitor the 138.83 kHz carrier from Sunday afternoon till tonight.

The two dark blue traces show the maximum and mininimum amplitudes within ea= ch two minute measurement interval. The usual 3 mV/m carrier, attenuated at=20= the passband edge, places the upper trace at about 40% relative magnitude. T= he minimum trace reflects the energy spread during the short telegrams, abou= t -8dBc when smeared by 0.34 Hz resolution bandwidth.

On Sunday afternoon, I aurally observed many short interruptions, where the=20= carrier went off completely after a telegram, and ramped back up after a cou= ple of seconds. These appear as dips to zero in the minimum trace. There was= also a long outage between 12:00 and 14:15.

Another interesting feature is the apparent power switching. These 3 dB step= s were again accompanied by short breaks, and occured at 20:40 (up), Monday=20= 5:40 (down), 7:40 (up), 8:50 (down), 9:10 (up), 9:35 (down).

The light blue trace shows the recorded azimut, which should of course be co= nstant and due north. The irregular nighttime variations are usually introdu= ced by ionospheric multipath.

However the slower daytime deviations (300 to 350 degrees) are an artifact d= ue to E-field antenna detuning by moisture. This "summer antenna" is a just=20= piece of wire strung among the branches of a fir tree, and series resonated=20= with about 10 mH. Whenever it starts to rain (which was often, e.g. at 16:05= ), its phase is retarded and the apparent azimuth deviates clockwise, lettin= g the SXV trace on my grabber display turn from orange to greenish (makes se= nse doesn't it ;-) I have tried to minimize this by loading the antenna with= a high receiver input impedance, but there is probably also a direct dielec= tric effect disturbing the local electric field.

The red traces and dots are for SXV around 135.75 kHz. They show the usual m= orning and afternoon fieldstrength minima, as well as the same weather artif= acts in azimuth.

73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM

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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.63.86 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2006 13:03:04 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.5/425]); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:59:46 +0100 Message-ID: <001901c6c6b4$02801840$563f8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:59:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.729,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C6BC.641B4D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4531 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C6BC.641B4D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, DCF 39 seems to have been off most of this morning since around 0800. I = have been hearing periods of carrier being rapidly swept across several = kHz around 139kHz every couple of seconds - perhaps their synthesiser = has blown up :-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C6BC.641B4D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
DCF 39 seems to have been off most of = this morning=20 since around 0800. I have been hearing periods of carrier being rapidly = swept=20 across several kHz around 139kHz every couple of seconds - perhaps their = synthesiser has blown up :-)
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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Hi all,
 
As my final input into this debate it seems sad that these people feel=20= the=20 need to do this type of research and experiment at all.
 
If the end purpose is to develop a technology to deal with, for instanc= e,=20 an EMP event by say North Korea or anyone else then surely the dollars and=20 effort might be far better spent in prevention rather than cure.
 
I rather feel that in the real world inhabited by real people as oppose= d to=20 the strange world inhabited by politicians and their paymasters there are=20 genuine possibilities for us all to co-exist without trying to zap each othe= r=20 out of existence.
 
We radio amateurs are, I have always believed, a rather good example of= how=20 it can work and this recent endeavour to carry out research into LF propogat= ion,=20 sharing the results and cooperating across borders is a demonstration of how= =20 well the model could be made to work across an even wider range of=20 interests.
 
I guess it comes down to this;
 
 In the race of life it is always worth putting your money on=20= the=20 horse named "Self Interest" because he will always be in there tryng=20 hard.
 
Now, I believe that saying is attributed to an antipodean prime=20 minister which rather begs a question bearing in mind the source of these=20 reports.
 
73 de pat g4gvw es gd dx
-------------------------------1156290394-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212457396557892219 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e3924253c6ec04aaeb8a2cb222daf574cf77f2c1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs267356qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr1168131nfh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si1320535nfc.2006.08.22.16.31.18; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfdc-00041Y-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:26:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfdc-00041P-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:26:28 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFfdY-0003jr-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:26:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 79774 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2006 23:26:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=I2wPhNb4wyk3T8f7yXdPMfbJuWE8PXngQh2PPJvkiJsJfBYNEfGwX3NHZLSV3HBJygki0D+accdgXB5P8aVJIE5lI7CWEPfM1n6zJdHbGpjzWMlmE0zVLng8soo/zPgXC+vo+9LtK9cPmOZTYvZYSUPfdsdSygM6ZCbeND1+4a8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.12.214 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2006 23:26:18 -0000 Message-ID: <005d01c6c642$60a057e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:19:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.810 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Alarming message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4533 Hi Nick the quotes were intended to signify an "ironic comment" obviously not wholely successful ! Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Mclean (SYD) To: Sent: 23 August 2006 00:14 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Alarming message Alan G3NYK wrote; "HF?? Nobody uses HF for communication these days....do they ??" Many countries around the world (including Australia) use HF for over the horizon radar ( OTHR ). I don't think the military of those countries are going to like having HF shut down for a few days to a week. Just my $0.02 worth, 73's Nic McLean VK2KXN / VK5ZAT This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify the sender immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not be the views of FOXTEL, unless specifically stated. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment (s) are free from computer viruses or other defects. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212538013325776726 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 06c05475871faed3f5a955a5e6bf5397b04617ec Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs387678qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr4367110nfi; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si5143883nfc.2006.08.24.13.52.01; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGM49-00027m-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:44:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGM48-00027d-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:44:41 +0100 Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.90]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GGM44-0001kl-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:44:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 25816 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2006 20:44:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.40]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 24 Aug 2006 20:44:26 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c6c7bd$9391f380$67be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <009401c6c6f5$0a758940$63be3b3e@fujitsu> <44EDE4A5.7030000@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:40:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.326,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: argo loading problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4542 Hallo Wolf, Habe mittlerweile V2.7b4 installiert, und habe da zwa eine directory palette, aber ohne inhalt... Da werde es gut mir mal eine configurations file zu schicken fur die "sunrise" palette Muss nur noch die neue version testen, hi, aber zur zeit antennetuner nicht angeslossen, also keine RX antenne... 73 Dcik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: argo loading problems > Hello Dick, > > A quite new version (V2.7 b4) is available on my website split into two > parts, so you can download them and "carry them home" on two 1.44 MB > disks. If that doesn't work, I can send you a configuration file for > QRSS3 which contains the "sunrise" palette. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212538013325776726 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 137997df58d8c65701f2bce7333211f72ec90bbb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs378586qbh; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr4039586nfl; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si153170nfe.2006.08.24.10.49.31; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGJCO-0000uZ-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:41:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGJCO-0000uQ-EO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:41:00 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGJCK-0003f0-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:41:00 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GGJCK-0005qF-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:40:56 +0200 Received: from p54869f23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.159.35] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GGJCJ-00027D-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:40:56 +0200 Message-ID: <44EDE4A5.7030000@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:40:53 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009401c6c6f5$0a758940$63be3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <009401c6c6f5$0a758940$63be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.789 Subject: Re: LF: argo loading problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4543 Hello Dick, A quite new version (V2.7 b4) is available on my website split into two parts, so you can download them and "carry them home" on two 1.44 MB disks. If that doesn't work, I can send you a configuration file for QRSS3 which contains the "sunrise" palette. 73, Wolf DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212538013325776726 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1ff07af7f77875845a5e998b67e0814ed1014530 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs320973qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr2574900nfl; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si3038554nfc.2006.08.23.13.52.39; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzfb-0008HU-HN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:49:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzfb-0008HL-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:49:51 +0100 Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.90]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFzfW-0002Ka-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:49:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 11833 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2006 20:48:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.22]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 23 Aug 2006 20:48:44 -0000 Message-ID: <009401c6c6f5$0a758940$63be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:35:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.346,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: argo loading problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C6C704.7A5623A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4544 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C6C704.7A5623A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I'm running spectrum laboratory V2.1 b2 , but I can not get these nice = pictures I see from many others. Dispite some tips from Wolf, dl4yhf, I couldn't change the color = palette to sunrise-art. Maybe this option is not available in this version. A problem is that I have to download programms to a diskette = 1,44MB...... The newest version of spectrum lab. requires 2.35MB......... My knowledge from computers isn't so good..... I tried to run Argo 134, but the computer says it can't find = "MSVCRT.DLL" Anyone? ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C6C704.7A5623A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
I'm running spectrum laboratory V2.1 b2 = , but I can=20 not get these nice pictures I see from many others.
Dispite some tips from Wolf, dl4yhf, I=20 couldn't  change the color palette to sunrise-art.
Maybe this option is not available in = this=20 version.
 
A problem is that I have to download = programms to a=20 diskette 1,44MB......
The newest version of spectrum lab. = requires=20 2.35MB.........
My knowledge from computers isn't so=20 good.....
 
I tried to run Argo 134, but the = computer says it=20 can't find "MSVCRT.DLL"
 
Anyone?
 
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C6C704.7A5623A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212837343811309044 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 037662309d4e3528536f078e4e56283e2d2aa463 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs520664qbh; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr7404313nfl; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si9693117nfe.2006.08.26.21.10.23; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHBsa-0002Im-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:04:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHBsa-0002Id-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:04:12 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHBsW-0002HQ-CH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:04:12 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id AEB6C677AE for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000701c6c98d$cfaf6d30$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:03:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.046,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Beacon off for improvements. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4548 Friends, The VY1JA beacon is off the air for improvements and will be back on the air as soon as possible. For now the station is in reception mode. If anything of value is seen an LWL will be sent to the party concerned or if is really nifty it will be sent to this reflector. The goal is a legal limit transmitter within about two weeks, provided I can build an amp without making any more mistakes. 73 J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212974116192444057 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 71743cad3e8a9889470bd1c1c4b6323ec2d46cbc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs609036qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr9191514nff; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si9562281nfe.2006.08.28.09.24.16; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjqG-0000KA-Am for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjqF-0000K1-Ty for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:03 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHjqA-0006Vq-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:03 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2006 17:19:50 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAOuy8kSLKQICBwIMBwYd Received: from 88-106-105-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.210]:3777 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GHjpG-000Ffc-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:19:02 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007101c6cabb$b06d3540$8a9a4354@youry0mkaz8jaq> X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.971,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: LF: RE: Re: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4549 Martin, Just sussed it out before I got your mail. Thanks, I should have known. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Martin Evans Sent: 28 August 2006 17:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ qrss01 EFW TEST G3XIZ. > > Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand > the abreviation?? > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. End Fed Wire? Martin GW3UCJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212864373575222993 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a47f32e79b0679d6229bde93a3b94c4684b3a230 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs533217qbh; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr7634767nfi; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si10142984nfc.2006.08.27.04.20.01; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHIcD-0003o4-3z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:15:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHIcC-0003nv-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:15:44 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHIc9-0007RT-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:15:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 90741 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2006 11:15:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=kAGpvVizgR5X5G+cQXAz1xwHRUxOEkVt1zJ6BoaM7m2RI7nynjupOTTl9auPeRm0ntO1UFBpu8O4Cg2RYMiW+QJqFpjaX3V8qd40SWPGY4Y3y/qMx/XXFpwLETIYZUfY6QDtRmp2mZZeLnDk7zC6A4PY+CNYSi/XgDmk5nVkxCE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.228 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2006 11:15:34 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002301c6c9c5$058e7400$560024d5@jboi0045tiscali> X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.196,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: G3WCB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C9D2.A315AE20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4564 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C9D2.A315AE20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C6C9D2.A315AE20" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C6C9D2.A315AE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jeff. Screenshot of PA0BWL from this QTH attached. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN Sent: 27 August 2006 11:39 To: LF/EU Subject: LF: G3WCB 27./08/2006 1038z G3WCB not so bad too! 73: Jeff F6CWN (JN09tt) ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C6C9D2.A315AE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks,=20 Jeff.
 
Screenshot of = PA0BWL from this=20 QTH attached.
 
73, Dave G3WCB=20 IO91RM
 
 
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From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 F6CWN
Sent: 27 August 2006 11:39
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Subject: LF: G3WCB

27./08/2006   1038z
 
G3WCB not so bad = too!
 
73: Jeff F6CWN = (JN09tt)
 
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1212170396294486948 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 08a7530c9aed729ada793c3bd86d0be36e00b06d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86687qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr5594616nfk; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si119944nfa.2006.08.19.12.29.33; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWTx-0001je-5B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:27:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWTw-0001jV-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:27:44 +0100 Received: 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It is the first time I see a screenshot from myself in QRSS mode! Great! Running around 150Watt or so ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor van kooten" To: "blacksheep" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: LF: PA4VHF > Hello Dick,LF > > screenshot from your signal in Utrecht,with very strong QRN > > 73 > Victor PA3FNY > JO22NC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212220914112434728 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 47e45271aa6991672dd55e83a5a253e2154c51cb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs108618qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr6216195nfl; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si1051134nfb.2006.08.20.01.52.30; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiyp-00025T-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:48:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiyo-00025K-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:48:26 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEiyj-0003UT-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:48:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 9286 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2006 08:48:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.158.180 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2006 08:48:14 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:49:14 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001901c6c430$aba61360$5bbe3b3e@fujitsu> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.382,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C6C43D.E5674F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4567 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C6C43D.E5674F80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0016_01C6C43D.E5674F80" ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C6C43D.E5674F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dick. "M" copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB weaker than PA3FNY. but strong enough for a QSO into "G - land" Keep up the good work! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 20 August 2006 09:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: PA4VHF-137.708 I really don't know what's happening Viktor. Yes, I run more power than yesterday, but only 1-1.5dB more or so. Antenna current is just a little bit more. I can crank up the power by another 3-4dB........ But I want to stay in safe area, hi. Thanks again for monitoring! Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor van kooten To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF-137.708 High power Dick?? 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C6C43D.E5674F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 Dick.
 
"M"=20 copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB weaker than PA3FNY. = but strong enough for a QSO into "G - land"
 
Keep=20 up the good work!
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 Dick
Sent: 20 August 2006 09:15
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: = PA4VHF-137.708=20

I really don't know what's happening=20 Viktor.
 
Yes, I run more power than yesterday, = but only=20 1-1.5dB more or so.
Antenna current is just a little bit=20 more.
I can crank up the power by another=20 3-4dB........
 
But I want to stay in safe area, = hi.
 
Thanks again for = monitoring!
 
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Victor van=20 kooten
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 = 9:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: = PA4VHF-137.708

 
High power Dick??
 
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Dear LF Group,
 
DCF39 seems to be off again this = morning, with the=20 "sweeping carrier" audible from time to time.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6C767.09FBE5A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212514250561213094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f4feee7fb0ae593b4200c862456ddfca01d6cc7b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs299279qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr2066092nfi; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si2531323nfe.2006.08.23.07.34.50; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFtjX-0004OR-7n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:29:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFtjW-0004OI-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:29:30 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFtjS-00081Q-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:29:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 39110 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2006 14:29:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Teup8DCkTpJ48hPWzflWBvLtn2uBlQ20/ApM6VfVh99lTxO3C0bmZgtnWO/IqGXsFtZrEgp/zVYeI2zogI9ngMBOx30bfH0CyL5YN8eEkDizd8sYJATZuXozHqr9Fdfc079bIdJ3pOFx5VumpUhMkWlLRceO4ThnsYI73kBpOIg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.128.93 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2006 14:29:20 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c6c6c0$88a56900$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001901c6c6b4$02801840$563f8351@w4o8m9> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:29:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.682 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4570 Hi Jim yes I had a look about 1520z when I read you message and it was pounding away then it went off again. There is no obvious lightning activity in that area according to wetterkarte it is all to the East on the Polish-Ukraine border. I can see a good signal on 135960 which I think may be Ankara a Naval station. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz To: Sent: 23 August 2006 13:59 Subject: LF: DCF39 Dear LF Group, DCF 39 seems to have been off most of this morning since around 0800. I have been hearing periods of carrier being rapidly swept across several kHz around 139kHz every couple of seconds - perhaps their synthesiser has blown up :-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170751383165015 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 144677ab86eb778087150457e0509506ba9b54fe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86883qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr5600478nfl; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si518429nfe.2006.08.19.12.35.12; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWZ4-0001uN-Me for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:33:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWZ4-0001uE-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:33:02 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEWZ1-0004cI-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:33:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 29457 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 19:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.174]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 19:32:54 -0000 Message-ID: <005e01c6c3c5$cc590ec0$74be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:29:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.108,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF-137.708 QRT now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C6C3D6.8F0F4C80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4573 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C6C3D6.8F0F4C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have to go QRT now, because of rain etc. All thanks for monitoring, and CU later Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C6C3D6.8F0F4C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have to go QRT now, because of rain=20 etc.
 
All thanks for monitoring, and CU=20 later
 
Dick, PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C6C3D6.8F0F4C80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212165328603007057 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb3244cc780ca9901f8f8cf9b22eb4d5d8ec4760 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs83142qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5517704nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si52318nfb.2006.08.19.11.09.00; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEV99-0008La-5D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:02:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEV98-0008LR-JG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:02:10 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEV94-00040Z-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:02:10 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GEV93-0007Bi-04; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:02:05 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GnMrPYZeZejUqfL5HbRUCA2LQQejRbAqpEfcvfW66WEfjjpTTWPisz@[84.133.92.113]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GEV8o-1uwCY40; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:01:50 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:01:52 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1878402344.20060819200152@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GnMrPYZeZejUqfL5HbRUCA2LQQejRbAqpEfcvfW66WEfjjpTTWPisz X-TOI-MSGID: a0dd77b0-01fe-4706-b214-337572ac951b X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.817 Subject: LF: Activity today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4586 Added some screenshot of the CW activity around 136.5 kHz to my website. Including: PI4VPO/LT, DK4U, DL2HRE and M0BMU. Was a bit late and missed the earlier stations. Also added screenshots of PA3FNY, DK7SU and G3WCB taken on 137.7 kHz. Screenshots can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212229715039585701 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 160643c362826f9bbc8e596fce7e05f9d7480990 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112573qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6295714nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si1639008nfb.2006.08.20.04.12.24; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GElBn-0003wN-PO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:09:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GElBn-0003wE-Bc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:09:59 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GElBj-0004O3-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:09:59 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.0.214) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447EB007006E306C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:04:49 +0200 Message-ID: <003e01c6c448$734c2fa0$d60024d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:04:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.900,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA0BWL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C6C448.72506A80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4590 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C6C448.72506A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 20./08/2006 1101z GM, PA0BWL was 569 (in quick QSO with PI4VLO / LT.) 73: Jeff F6CWN (JN09tt) ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C6C448.72506A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
20./08/2006   1101z
 
 
 GM,
 
PA0BWL was 569 (in quick QSO with = PI4VLO /=20 LT.)
 
73: Jeff F6CWN=20 (JN09tt)
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C6C448.72506A80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212158715596766403 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ea7e031fe34b78646c2508783fcf12ac5e8c018a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs80854qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr5446407nfk; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si519458nfb.2006.08.19.10.06.04; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEUCL-0007pv-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:01:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEUCK-0007pm-Fe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:01:24 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEUCG-0006u1-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:01:24 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.164.46) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447F02A3006DECF3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:01:14 +0200 Message-ID: <00e401c6c3b0$c37f5440$740224d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <081920061643.7276.44E73FC60000214C00001C6C22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.008 Subject: Re: LF: Re: New Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4596 Exist it in rose? (It is for XYL!) :0) 73: Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" To: ; Cc: "captbrian" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New Receiver > Brian, > > The most similar piece of kit is the Icom-7800 transceiver which sells for US $10500.00. I'm sure that the price will be well north of $10,000 US and maybe north of US $20,000. > Whether you consider that a lot of money depends on your perspective. > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "captbrian" > > Are you sure ? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" > > To: "LWCA LF Reflector" > > Cc: "rsgb lf reflector" > > Sent: 19 August 2006 15:46 > > Subject: LF: New Receiver > > > > > > > Hello the lists, > > > > > > One receiver for your LF, MF,HF,VHF,UHF and microwave station! > > > > > Warning probably NOT CHEAP! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212158715596766403 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5f47eca080f051ba51e78e89dcddd5b7d49b9e80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs80186qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr5432782nfh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si103665nfa.2006.08.19.09.47.23; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GETvi-0007fk-WB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:44:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GETvh-0007fb-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:44:13 +0100 Received: from [216.148.227.155] (helo=rwcrmhc15.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GETvc-0003Tx-QK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:44:13 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20060819164351m1500jr31ve>; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:44:02 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:43:50 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "captbrian" Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:43:50 +0000 Message-Id: <081920061643.7276.44E73FC60000214C00001C6C22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.534,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: Re: LF: Re: New Receiver X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4597 Brian, The most similar piece of kit is the Icom-7800 transceiver which sells for US $10500.00. I'm sure that the price will be well north of $10,000 US and maybe north of US $20,000. Whether you consider that a lot of money depends on your perspective. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "captbrian" > Are you sure ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" > To: "LWCA LF Reflector" > Cc: "rsgb lf reflector" > Sent: 19 August 2006 15:46 > Subject: LF: New Receiver > > > > Hello the lists, > > > > One receiver for your LF, MF,HF,VHF,UHF and microwave station! > > > Warning probably NOT CHEAP! > > > > > > -- > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212158715596766403 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e5f888dd6bb5b4842aafd06b4de4debb46782a5c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs79064qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr5413007nfh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si75109nfc.2006.08.19.09.23.53; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GETVf-0007Po-VZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GETVf-0007Pf-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GETVb-0006jM-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-61.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.61] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GETVW-0004Vb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <009001c6c3aa$fc1614c0$5dce28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <081920061446.24898.44E724520006E70B0000614222007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:15:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: New Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4598 Are you sure ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" To: "LWCA LF Reflector" Cc: "rsgb lf reflector" Sent: 19 August 2006 15:46 Subject: LF: New Receiver > Hello the lists, > > One receiver for your LF, MF,HF,VHF,UHF and microwave station! > Warning probably NOT CHEAP! > > > -- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212174896519006425 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9927318e6d63064fbefbbc53f66fd0c7e5c4c7a3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs89621qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr5657265nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si134314nfc.2006.08.19.13.41.05; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEXYv-0002tc-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:36:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEXYv-0002tT-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:36:57 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEXYq-0007ph-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:36:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 56204 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2006 20:36:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.167 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2006 20:36:46 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005e01c6c3c5$cc590ec0$74be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.000,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF-137.708 QRT now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C3D7.B7D8EDF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4599 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C3D7.B7D8EDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, I got a trace of your signal on 137.708 - "T" copy, with a lot of static crashes and bangs. not even enough for a screen shot. I'll have another look for you tomorrow, hoping that the QRN has gone away.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 19 August 2006 20:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: PA4VHF-137.708 QRT now Have to go QRT now, because of rain etc. All thanks for monitoring, and CU later Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C3D7.B7D8EDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dick,
 
I got=20 a trace of your signal on 137.708 -  "T" copy, with a lot of static = crashes=20 and bangs.  not even enough for a screen shot.
 
I'll=20 have another look for you tomorrow, hoping that the QRN has gone=20 away..
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 Dick
Sent: 19 August 2006 20:30
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: PA4VHF-137.708 QRT = now

Have to go QRT now, because of rain=20 etc.
 
All thanks for monitoring, and CU=20 later
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
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(TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GIuKl-00026H-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:44:23 +0200 Message-ID: <44F75833.6020405@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:44:19 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.749 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4601 Gary - G4WGT schrieb: > Hi All, > > Today downloaded Ubuntu ver 6.06 - June 2006, created the install CD from > the ISO using the CD Burner recommended, carried out the install & BINGO > everything works (except Broadband Internet). I have tried other Linux > versions & this one does impress me. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > Whow, I'm doing exactly that at this very moment when I read your message. But my Ubuntu ISO image is still waiting to be installed (on the HD). Booting from CDROM worked fine. Even the internet access worked right from the start. Impressive ! Next step will be checking Wine with one of my homebrew programs ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 60179b77bd74af8a3c25e468973de231d67baea8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs177470qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr2064693nfv; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si123551nfa.2006.08.31.13.46.01; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GItMW-0007Pq-RJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GItMW-0007Ph-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:08 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GItMS-0003Zy-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:08 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2006 21:40:55 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAKXk9kSLMwIHAgwHBh0 Received: from 88-106-100-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.100.176]:1090 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GItKX-0006ar-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:40:05 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:39:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <44F732E3.8010208@wp.pl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.960,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: RE: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4602 Hi All, Today downloaded Ubuntu ver 6.06 - June 2006, created the install CD from the ISO using the CD Burner recommended, carried out the install & BINGO everything works (except Broadband Internet). I have tried other Linux versions & this one does impress me. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Marek SQ5BPM Sent: 31 August 2006 20:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: linux Andre Kesteloot wrote: > several people I know have been unable to get Ubuntu to boot. > Any comments ? If I recall properly, there were some problems booting certain versions of Ubuntu (< 5.x ?) with Serial ATA CD ROM drives. The kernel booted up properly, but then it was unable to mount the CD filesystem. I suppose that support for such a configuration has been added already. Also, some newer devices, including especially disappointing Serial ATA controllers, may need some tinkering, but it has always been like that with 'too new' equipment and Linux. Nevertheless - always worth trying. 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1fe05353de3fd3804385b9e69498542346be3e6f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs177182qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr2013050nff; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2278588nfa.2006.08.31.13.38.55; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GItCm-0007Ki-9F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:32:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GItCl-0007KZ-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:32:03 +0100 Received: from [212.23.132.190] (helo=eusebia.titro.de) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GItCi-0003SW-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:32:03 +0100 Received: from [10.1.0.5] (sabine.cc.de [10.1.0.5]) by eusebia.titro.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id k7VKUrh26837 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:30:53 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: eusebia.cc.de: Host sabine.cc.de [10.1.0.5] claimed to be [10.1.0.5] From: Sabine Cremer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:30:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <200608312029.45112.sabine@dl1dbc.net> <20060831214256.C13388@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> In-Reply-To: <20060831214256.C13388@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608312230.43449.sabine@dl1dbc.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4603 Thanks, Fabian, I will try... Sabine > Wine version 20050310, Argo V1 build 134 (the latest version I > think), OSS sound, 2.4 Kernel. > No tricks needed here, I just apt-get'ed wine (Debian Sarge) and it > worked right away. > > 73, From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5ee44e6b84e0df5871dadd88db78c898284a3917 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs175056qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1923072nfi; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si44075nfa.2006.08.31.12.47.46; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIsSP-00079W-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:44:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIsSO-00079N-M0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:44:08 +0100 Received: from rmr66-201.zih.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.201] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIsSK-0005Wi-RK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:44:08 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate-33 with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1GIsRH-0002s6-KF; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:59 +0200 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amavis-33 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00656-317 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [141.30.62.62] (helo=rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate-33 with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1GIsRF-0002rC-S4; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:57 +0200 Received: by rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.9.1) id VAA15242; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:56 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <20060831214256.C13388@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:42:56 +0200 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <20060831032826.A3381@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> <200608312029.45112.sabine@dl1dbc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <200608312029.45112.sabine@dl1dbc.net>; from Sabine Cremer on Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:29:45PM +0200 X-Beer: Jever X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on amavis-33 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.325 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4604 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:29:45PM +0200, Sabine Cremer wrote: > Any time I tried to install Argo with Wine I ended up in error > messages rising Wine's debug mode. What version do you use or what > is the trick to talk Wine into executing Argo? Please give me a > hint so I can get rid of booting Windows night by night hunting at > transatlantic signals! ;-) Wine version 20050310, Argo V1 build 134 (the latest version I think), OSS sound, 2.4 Kernel. No tricks needed here, I just apt-get'ed wine (Debian Sarge) and it worked right away. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ Online log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 32b14fc0b8a0f0bfe6f55bcfd1fd6b4218d392e5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs173555qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr1864450nfj; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si2170095nfe.2006.08.31.12.09.00; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIrqv-00070u-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:05:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIrqu-00070l-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:05:24 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIrqq-0005Kt-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:05:24 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 15709 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2006 21:05:14 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Aug 2006 21:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: <44F732E3.8010208@wp.pl> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:05:07 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <083120060241.9488.44F64C4C0002DE950000251022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <44F64D6F.2050906@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <44F64D6F.2050906@verizon.net> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=Unknown AS2=NO(0.500000) AS3=NO AS4=NO AS5=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.185 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4605 Andre Kesteloot wrote: > several people I know have been unable to get Ubuntu to boot. > Any comments ? If I recall properly, there were some problems booting certain versions of Ubuntu (< 5.x ?) with Serial ATA CD ROM drives. The kernel booted up properly, but then it was unable to mount the CD filesystem. I suppose that support for such a configuration has been added already. Also, some newer devices, including especially disappointing Serial ATA controllers, may need some tinkering, but it has always been like that with 'too new' equipment and Linux. Nevertheless - always worth trying. 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6f3649255997e3d2e05db1105c6080868d79b91f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs172252qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr1832018nfl; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si891703nfa.2006.08.31.11.36.15; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIrId-0006t2-Ob for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:29:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIrId-0006st-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:29:59 +0100 Received: from [212.23.132.190] (helo=eusebia.titro.de) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIrIa-0001sb-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:29:59 +0100 Received: from [10.1.0.5] (sabine.cc.de [10.1.0.5]) by eusebia.titro.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id k7VITjh24790 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:29:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: eusebia.cc.de: Host sabine.cc.de [10.1.0.5] claimed to be [10.1.0.5] From: Sabine Cremer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:29:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <20060831032826.A3381@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> In-Reply-To: <20060831032826.A3381@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608312029.45112.sabine@dl1dbc.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4606 Hi Fabian, > Argo works fine here with WINE (http://www.winehq.com/, should be > available on most Linux distributions via the packet-manager). Any time I tried to install Argo with Wine I ended up in error messages rising Wine's debug mode. What version do you use or what is the trick to talk Wine into executing Argo? Please give me a hint so I can get rid of booting Windows night by night hunting at transatlantic signals! ;-) 73 Sabine From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bfcf655848914a90a431196e038af924cdeca0f7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs157721qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr1410113nfi; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si1667807nfc.2006.08.31.07.01.15; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GImz9-00066N-2O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:53:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GImz8-00066E-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:53:34 +0100 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GImz5-0007ao-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:53:34 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.2.100]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J4V00E5N7W57080@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:52:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:51:28 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot In-reply-to: <083120060307.29826.44F6527B0007D30E0000748222135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: riese-k3djc@juno.com Message-id: <44F6E960.3000801@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <083120060307.29826.44F6527B0007D30E0000748222135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.393,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0u2kHtqzK0ewY/pLnipA9A)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4607 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_0u2kHtqzK0ewY/pLnipA9A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > Andre, > You need to burn it as an ISO CD image onto the CD. The first ti= me I tried I made the mistake of saving it as a regular file (a commo= n mistake apparently). > See: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > =20 thanks Warren, will try that, and will communicate it to the other= =20 non-indicted co-conspirators :-) 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Andre Kesteloot > =20 >> Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: >> =20 >>> Bob, >>> Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded= the Ubuntu=20 >>> =20 >> Linux and may switch one of my laptops over. >> =20 >>> -- >>> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ >>> FN42hi >>> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >>> =20 >> several people I know have been unable to get Ubuntu to boot. >> Any comments ? >> >> 73 >> Andr=E9 N4ICK >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > > > =20 --Boundary_(ID_0u2kHtqzK0ewY/pLnipA9A) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote:
Andre,
   You need to burn it as an ISO CD image onto the CD. The first time=
 I tried I made the mistake of saving it as a regular file (a common =
mistake apparently).
See:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIso=
Howto



--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
  
thanks Warren, will try that, and will communicate it to the other non-indicted co-conspirators  :-)

73
André N4ICK
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
=46rom: Andre Kesteloot <andre.kesteloot@verizon.net>=

  
Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote:
    
Bob,
   Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded the=
 Ubuntu=20
      
Linux and may switch one of my laptops over.
    
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
      
several people I know have been unable to get Ubun=
tu to boot.
Any comments ?

73
André N4ICK



    





  

--Boundary_(ID_0u2kHtqzK0ewY/pLnipA9A)-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d5b841bd52b68d13939da5ec86e46dc4f238ac0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs131730qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr650241nfj; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si749767nfb.2006.08.30.20.11.39; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcuF-0003bD-Rw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:07:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcuF-0003b4-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:07:51 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIcuB-0001os-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:07:51 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter98.comcast.net ([204.127.197.198]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060831030740m1200mleebe>; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:07:40 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter98.comcast.net; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:07:39 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Andre Kesteloot , riese-k3djc@juno.com Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:07:39 +0000 Message-Id: <083120060307.29826.44F6527B0007D30E0000748222135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.511,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: Re: LF: linux X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4608 Andre, You need to burn it as an ISO CD image onto the CD. The first time I tried I made the mistake of saving it as a regular file (a common mistake apparently). See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Andre Kesteloot > Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > > Bob, > > Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded the Ubuntu > Linux and may switch one of my laptops over. > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > several people I know have been unable to get Ubuntu to boot. > Any comments ? > > 73 > Andr� N4ICK > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0af1f48b71d2a00db2d6b0eb8b545ed811092009 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs131308qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr562789nfj; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si748673nfa.2006.08.30.19.58.22; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcjR-0003QJ-7v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:56:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcjQ-0003QA-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:56:40 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIcjM-0007sQ-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:56:40 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCRNV77ASY8Z32 for (sender ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewO3Yc+308+g7WR/r8cNS7NXJ8EzdZLJqcw== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LY3RH98J; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:55:55 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:55:44 -0400 Message-ID: <20060830.225544.952.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-8,10-18,20,22,24-33,34-32767 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 6:3:3430285048 X-MAIL-INFO:0a09a1f909a5a1b0f9d4a4f999d59971955489d4c1c40011b56d4d3189b91dedfd5089e1fde1a4b0 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.506,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Fw: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--__JNP_000_74dc.584a.52a2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4609 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_74dc.584a.52a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded the Ubuntu Linux and may switch one of my laptops over. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm This is KNOPPIX and my expierience is limited. It appears to have the same ability to do Plug N play,,,, but as it runs from the CD I dont know what it does to the HD as it must store stuff there. boots well and takes ummmm 2/ to 3 min to come up didnt know you could do that OS on a CD,,,, Wild Sounds like there are many versions of Linux how is the net going Bob k3DJC ----__JNP_000_74dc.584a.52a2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: linux Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:10:13 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to = be=20
EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got = there=20 yet )
for windows will run the argo EtAll programs
 
please say yes    ( har )
Bob K3DJC
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1-- ----__JNP_000_74dc.584a.52a2-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb6173ae9da4d04a5232c3c59519326840ceba59 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs130976qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.19 with SMTP id l19mr560549nfe; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si736216nfe.2006.08.30.19.50.01; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcbI-0003IG-8q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:48:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcbH-0003I7-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:48:15 +0100 Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIcbE-0001P7-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:48:15 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.130.246]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J4U0083DD39ANND@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:47:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:46:07 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot In-reply-to: <083120060241.9488.44F64C4C0002DE950000251022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: riese-k3djc@juno.com Message-id: <44F64D6F.2050906@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <083120060241.9488.44F64C4C0002DE950000251022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.429,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4610 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > Bob, > Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded t= he Ubuntu Linux and may switch one of my laptops over. > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm several people I know have been unable to get Ubuntu to boot. Any comments ? 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c397000b12172068dfeb2fec1ee5a8d207f3bcac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs130752qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr558683nfg; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si712534nfe.2006.08.30.19.45.27; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcUq-0003DT-Qz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:41:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIcUq-0003DK-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:41:36 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIcUk-0007jh-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:41:35 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060831024118m1100j2h2ae>; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:41:23 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:41:16 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: riese-k3djc@juno.com Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:41:16 +0000 Message-Id: <083120060241.9488.44F64C4C0002DE950000251022070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.631,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4611 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob, Let me know how you make out with it, I've recently downloaded the Ubuntu Linux and may switch one of my laptops over. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: riese-k3djc@juno.com > just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to be > EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got > there yet ) > for windows will run the argo EtAll programs > > please say yes ( har ) Bob K3DJC --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: linux Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:10:13 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to = be=20
EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got = there=20 yet )
for windows will run the argo EtAll programs
 
please say yes    ( har )
Bob K3DJC
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9488_1156992076_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 231a6e137d8cc468cb52c780a7ef0368b1898298 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs128316qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr555199nfl; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si625041nfc.2006.08.30.18.32.35; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIbNF-0002sW-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:29:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIbNE-0002sN-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:29:40 +0100 Received: from rmr66-201.zih.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.201] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIbN9-00072S-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:29:40 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate-33 with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1GIbM5-0005Z0-HA; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:29 +0200 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amavis-33 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19836-418 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [141.30.62.62] (helo=rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate-33 with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1GIbM2-0005Xj-Cm; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:26 +0200 Received: by rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.9.1) id DAA03542; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:26 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <20060831032826.A3381@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:26 +0200 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com>; from riese-k3djc@juno.com on Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:06:23PM -0400 X-Beer: Jever X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on amavis-33 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.433 Subject: Re: LF: linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4612 On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:06:23PM -0400, riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: > just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to be > EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got > there yet ) > for windows will run the argo EtAll programs Argo works fine here with WINE (http://www.winehq.com/, should be available on most Linux distributions via the packet-manager). There is also a native Linux program for QRSS, 'glfer' by IN3OTD, http://www.qsl.net/in3otd/glfer.html which works very well. Baudline (http://www.baudline.com/) is another interesting audio spectrum analyzer. There is a database of ham radio software for Linux/Unix at http://radio.linux.org.au/ which features a wide range of ham radio related software. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ Online log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213188451095640064 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dffd51d0eefb5b03b09f5b7e99fbd5d1c7aca09f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs127682qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr497321nfj; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si578687nfe.2006.08.30.18.11.06; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIb29-0002i8-Tg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:07:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIb29-0002hz-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:07:53 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIb24-0006wJ-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:07:53 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCRNPUFA3L4Z62 for (sender ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:07:17 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewO3Yc+308+g7Ufr0CNTiPKJNOt5qJn2Bmg== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LY3KATZP; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:06:59 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: <20060830.210623.528.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7,9-12,13-32767 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3104896426 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.713,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: linux Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_1298.791d.6a6e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4613 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_1298.791d.6a6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to be EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got there yet ) for windows will run the argo EtAll programs please say yes ( har ) Bob K3DJC ----__JNP_000_1298.791d.6a6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 just booted my puter from a CD,, under linux and it appears to = be=20
EZ and as nice as win. Does anyone know it the emulator ( I havent got = there=20 yet )
for windows will run the argo EtAll programs
 
please say yes    ( har )
Bob K3DJC
----__JNP_000_1298.791d.6a6e-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212126661978809544 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 557880f1be86a50b96d947cd83c88bcc28bae603 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs62282qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr4995633nfe; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si65108nfb.2006.08.19.00.54.24; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GELbC-0002vQ-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:50:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GELbC-0002vG-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:50:30 +0100 Received: from cas-mta3-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.28] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GELb8-0003LC-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:50:30 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556FEB.cable.casema.nl [83.85.111.235]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22A243AE for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:49:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20060819094916.06153d20@pop3.casema.nl> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@pop3.casema.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:58:42 +0200 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 18-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.052,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Test by PA0SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4616 Many thanks to DL1DBC, F6CWN, G3KEV, G3WCB and PA3FNY for their reports on my 137700 kHz transmission yesterday. My location is Leiderdorp, a town adjacent to the university town of Leyden, or Leiden as write it; between Amsterdam and The Hague. Transmitter output is about 120 W. Aerial is a type T; top at 18 m; two 20 m long top wires, sloping down to about 12 and 14 m. Earth connection to the gas mains. Aerial current 2.1 A. In winter and when it is raining it can be as low as 1.7 A. 73, Dick, PA0SE JO22GD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212226930286850160 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2fedaee89a6d59b5370839b0bd60e7d0eb9a1375 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs111417qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr6305572nfe; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si698767nfe.2006.08.20.03.28.08; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkUa-0003E1-9m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:25:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkUZ-0003Ds-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:25:19 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEkUV-00046u-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:25:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 96363 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2006 10:13:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.111.58?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.111.58 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2006 10:13:35 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.3/423]); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:10:34 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c6c440$e0773e60$3a6f7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <003001c6c437$59f4d220$58be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:10:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.589,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6C449.4201AAA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4617 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6C449.4201AAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dick, PA4VHF a good signal here until stopping a few minutes ago - "O" copy in = spite of a lot of QRN. Hope nothing has gone bang! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6C449.4201AAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dick,
 
PA4VHF a good signal here until = stopping a few=20 minutes ago - "O" copy in spite of a lot of QRN. Hope nothing has gone=20 bang!
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de = M0BMU 
------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6C449.4201AAA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212386569664156523 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 83faed9fe1f34cea6b1fc635d8eb8c77e40dc8c5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs214291qbh; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr475921nfj; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si36329nfa.2006.08.21.21.45.31; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFO1z-0000nu-Os for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:38:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFO1y-0000nl-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:38:26 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.113]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFO1u-0006kJ-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:38:26 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W14 ([207.46.11.177]) by bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:38:15 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [218.249.195.2] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Laurence KL1X" Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:38:16 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2006 04:38:15.0989 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8BEBE50:01C6C5A4] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.098,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_512de801-e672-4cb1-9a91-89f1ef135291_" Subject: LF: These sliding doors again X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4619 --_512de801-e672-4cb1-9a91-89f1ef135291_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Considering the extenuative affects to kill common mode qrm coming from ins= ide the room, up the coax and out Ive been playing to try to find out whats= what. Yep an Im using isolating toroids and all that guff. =20 Here we go =20 For a merit test I "built" my own 4 x 3 metre flexible doorway in an area s= imilar but without the metal frame being there. This was with one continuou= s length of folded aluminum foil some 4 cms in width and a couple of thickn= esses to give it some mechanical strength with all that tugging - and some= 14 metres in circumference. =20 I compared the extenuative results of common in building noise with the on= e with a known killer of QRN my favorite sliding balcony door frame - At 13= 7 Khz the door frame gave appx 30-40dB of noize attenuation (nice) my alumi= num made up version standalone 4dB... or less. Open circuiting the alumini= um made up little difference So I pondered - I knew from testing in Singapore that the metal frame in my= hotel that worked so well wasn't connected to "mains" earth - but what abo= ut this one here in Shanghai? - Measured it and hey presto it is, and low Z= too, certainly less than 1 ohm - theyve added a Earth safety strap somew= here and all the buildings doorways and sliding doors on the balconies are = all boded together at "building earth" (notice Im not saying radio) potenti= al and defacto we have a screened box - with my eprobe poking out of one si= de and the screen connected to that box. =20 So this left the question of what was happening in Singapore? - Ive found o= ut that the sliding door frame is connected to the steel work of the buildi= ng but for some reason there is No connection to the mains earth in the 220= vac supply - I actually think this is a bit dodgy but heck that mains earth= was hot with RF and brought the noise up by 30dB, here luckily in Shanghai= it doesn't. =20 Choosing the right balcony sliding door for your probe has merits - the one= on the North side cuts the noize out but then I get pylon hash, the one on= the southside is much quieter but now screened from Asia/Americas and Eu -= but I can still see DCF39 =20 So no tuned loops, tooned earths, counterpoises or what ever just a screene= d metal box that keeps the rubbish mostly inside. Mostly. As Ive seen befor= e if I was on the top floor its works pretty well for rx if i can get my pr= obe above the roof line but Im on floor 3 out of 12 and by pushing the pro= be out further and further away from the building makes a huge difference -= more than 1 S point per metre at 200Khz on some of the local NDB's.=20 =20 I have a cunning plan (as one famous actor said once "so cunning if you put= a tail on it, you would call it a fox"), to get some form of earth into th= e ground and extend is camouflaged up the side of the building. If it works= it will be interesting to see what if any affect is has on the qrm, if it = doesn't Ill probably be in jail. =20 Laurence, KL1X in BY, enroute tomorrow to KL7 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: F= ri, 18 Aug 2006 14:33:59 -0800Subject: LF: condx DCF39 seen here from 1809z till 2143z - signals were coming and going and b= elow audible - The signal here was seen some 24mins before sundown at Magde= burg and lost at my dawn. Theres hope! Laurence PM01 ShanghaiMini whip on a= 7m fishing pole shoved out horizontally off a 3rd floor screened balcony = =20 Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! 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Considering the extenuative affects to kill common mode qrm comin= g from inside the room, up the coax and out Ive been playing to try to find= out whats what. Yep an Im using isolating toroids and all that guff.
 
Here we go
 
For a merit test I "built" my own 4 x 3 metre flexible doorway in an area <= FONT>similar but without the metal frame being there. This was with on= e continuous length of folded aluminum foil some 4 cms in width and a coupl= e of thicknesses to give it some mechanical strength with all that tugging = -  and some 14 metres in circumference.

 
 I compared the extenuative results of common in building noise = with the one with a known killer of QRN my favorite sliding balcony door fr= ame - At 137 Khz the door frame gave appx 30-40dB of noize attenuation (nic= e) my aluminum  made up version standalone 4dB... or less. Open circui= ting the aluminium made up little difference

So I pondered - I knew from testing in Singapore that the metal frame in my= hotel that worked so well wasn't connected to "mains" earth - but what abo= ut this one here in Shanghai? - Measured it and hey presto it is, and low Z= too, certainly less than 1 ohm  -  theyve added a Earth safety s= trap somewhere and all the buildings doorways and sliding doors on the balc= onies are all boded together at "building earth" (notice Im not saying radi= o) potential and defacto we have a screened box - with my eprobe poking out= of one side and the screen connected to that box.
 
So this left the question of what was happening in Singapore? - Ive found o= ut that the sliding door frame is connected to the steel work of the buildi= ng but for some reason there is No connection to the mains earth in the 220= vac supply - I actually think this is a bit dodgy but heck that mains earth= was hot with RF and brought the noise up by 30dB, here luckily in Shanghai= it doesn't.
 
Choosing the right balcony sliding door for your probe has merits - the one= on the North side cuts the noize out but then I get pylon hash, the one on= the southside is much quieter but now screened from Asia/Americas and Eu -= but I can still see DCF39
 
So no tuned loops, tooned earths, counterpoises or what ever just a screene= d metal box that keeps the rubbish mostly inside. Mostly. As Ive seen befor= e if I was on the top floor its works pretty well for rx if i can get my pr= obe above the roof line but Im on floor  3 out of 12 and by pushing th= e probe out further and further away from the building makes a huge differe= nce - more than 1 S point per metre at 200Khz on some of the local ND= B's.
 
I have a cunning plan (as one famous actor said once "so cunning if you put= a tail on it, you would call it a fox"), to get some form of earth into th= e ground and extend is camouflaged up the side of the building. If it= works it will be interesting to see what if any affect is has on the qrm, if it doesn't Ill probably be in jail.
 
Laurence, KL1X in BY, enroute  tomorrow to KL7




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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:33:59 -0800
Subject: LF: condx

DCF39 seen here from 1809z till 2143z - signals were coming and going and b= elow audible - The signal here was seen some 24mins before sundown at Magde= burg and lost at my dawn. Theres hope!
 
Laurence PM01 Shanghai<= BR>Mini whip on a 7m fishing pole shoved out horizontally off a 3rd floor s= creened balcony  


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<083120061330.5597.44F6E464000A8574000015DD22073000330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.070 Subject: Re: LF: T/ A last night : WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4626 >> Sorry is not XGJ it is XES !!!!!!!!! > > Too bad, I thought that I had achieved the ultimate in efficiency (No power to the transmitter and yet good copy)! He has it not, I have it for him. JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213202940240960939 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 815a8d5f372f91d830ec4b352b3e5813b9fef991 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs156698qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr1317664nfk; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si1633334nfc.2006.08.31.06.38.13; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GImdK-0005z7-RB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:31:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GImdK-0005yy-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:31:02 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GImdG-00033a-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:31:02 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter74.comcast.net ([204.127.197.156]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060831133013m1200mk9n0e>; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:30:13 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter74.comcast.net; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:30:12 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:30:12 +0000 Message-Id: <083120061330.5597.44F6E464000A8574000015DD22073000330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.620 Subject: Re: LF: T/ A last night : WD2XES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4627 > Sorry is not XGJ it is XES !!!!!!!!! Too bad, I thought that I had achieved the ultimate in efficiency (No power to the transmitter and yet good copy)! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre M�r� > Sorry is not XGJ it is XES !!!!!!!!! > > Jean-Pierre M�r� a �crit : > > > > Hi all on the list ! > > > > Last night , verry good copy of WD2XGJ ! > > > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > Visitez mon site radioamateur � : http://jpmere.online.fr/ > Analys� avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213202940240960939 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4efdd07017ca9454656d0de996ed5efad7aa08ef Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149079qbh; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr1113313nfl; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si1127643nfc.2006.08.31.04.03.10; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIkBp-0005YN-7F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:54:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIkBo-0005YE-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:54:28 +0100 Received: from mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.172]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIkBk-0001qY-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:54:28 +0100 Received: from mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.137]) by mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7VAs0OW014553 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:54:01 -0400 Received: from 24-177-53-244.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([24.177.53.244]) by mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2006 06:54:01 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,193,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="642039564:sNHT59065506" Message-ID: <44F6B1D6.20909@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:54:30 +0100 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <44F66C3D.4030702@online.fr> <44F66DE6.5030705@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <44F66DE6.5030705@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.319 Subject: Re: LF: T/ A last night : WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4628 Jean-Pierre, > Sorry is not XGJ it is XES !!!!!!!!! Yes it is! Very nice copy, thank you. Lightning activity in EU looked low last night. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213202940240960939 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b2671a2d09367ab644a5f1a5164c469b63f5c1a0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs135673qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr754155nfg; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si608612nfc.2006.08.30.22.06.49; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIejO-0004Ci-NX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:04:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIejM-0004CZ-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:04:44 +0100 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIejI-0000As-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:04:44 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255F590947 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:04:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44F66DE6.5030705@online.fr> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:04:38 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <44F66C3D.4030702@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <44F66C3D.4030702@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.630 Subject: Re: LF: T/ A last night : WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4629 Sorry is not XGJ it is XES !!!!!!!!! Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > > Hi all on the list ! > > Last night , verry good copy of WD2XGJ ! > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213202940240960939 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9fb7806aaf6a0c9f10bc20177d562a0973383470 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs135451qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr771254nfj; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si903139nfc.2006.08.30.22.01.23; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIed8-00047c-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:58:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIed3-00047T-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:58:13 +0100 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GIecy-00009F-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:58:13 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6592373C for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44F66C3D.4030702@online.fr> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:57:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3) X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.641 Subject: LF: T/ A last night : WD2XES Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030202070602090103080606" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4630 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030202070602090103080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all on the list ! 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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.49.18 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2006 20:52:50 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.5/426]); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:49:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c6c7be$d6714920$12317ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001b01c6c7a4$2ca4f550$6501a8c0@eagles> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:49:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.565 Subject: LF: Re: TX output problem, still need helpl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4636 Dear J, LF group, I assume you mean the voltage waveform across the dummy load is the one that has the humps - which would indicate a significant odd harmonic content at the output of the low-pass filter. Assuming the low-pass has the correct component values, and so low attenuation at 137k and reasonably high attenuation at harmonics of 137k, this implies an enormous harmonic content at the input side of the filter - probably more 3rd and 5th harmonic than there is fundamental.. So the next thing to look at is the waveform on the input side of the filter. In a well-behaved current-switching class D stage, the waveform at the input of the low pass filter should be a reasonable aproximation to a sine wave, probably with some kinks and wiggles due to the "ringing" produced by the switching operation. On the drain of each MOSFET, there should be a waveform that looks roughly like a half-wave rectified sine wave, i.e. near 0V during 1/2 of the period, and the positive half of a sine wave for the other half. In practice, the real waveform is somewhat distorted and usually has various spikes and wiggles, especially around the switching points. At the centre tap of the transformer, there should be a waveform something like a full-wave rectified sine wave, with about half the amplitude of the drain waveform. again, there will probably be various switching transients present. The gates of the MOSFETs should have reasonable antiphase square waves, with levels of around 0V, 10 - 15V. If this is the case, then the problem lies with the low-pass filter, but it seems more likely you will not see these waveforms. Let us know what you do see... BTW, to reduce the casualty rate among the MOSFETs, you can reduce the DC drain supply voltage to the PA. Because of the switching nature of the circuit, all the voltage and current waveforms will be virtually the same shape, just scaled down in amplitude. If you run it off less than 5V, it is unlikely that the MOSFETs will blow up even under fault conditions. Obviously, the gate drive voltage must stay at the original level to achieve proper switching of the MOSFETs. This saves a lot of time and money when experimenting with switching PAs. You wrote: > The only variable which I know of is the output transformer, final choke and > RF bypass capacitor. Since I suspected the output transformer I have taken > it apart and rewound it with several windings, on two different cores, all > suggested by different friends who are technically sound. There are NO > insulator disks between the core halves, and at 56 Watts of input the core > cannot be saturating. The latest winding matches the Jim Moritz, M0BMU > alternative for the G0MRF amp on page 77 of LF Today. with taps on the > output winding to set power output to lower values Are you using the same circuit as the "M0BMU alternative"? Specifically, there should only be a bypass capacitor on the DC supply side of the feed choke, there should be no bypass capacitor connected to the centre tap of the output transformer primary. If there is one, it very likely will result in huge amounts of harmonics being present, and the odd waveform you are getting. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212142825050292767 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: db135a00c061bc70a73da85c9cea9f4f11fafa2d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs68770qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5201936nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si215794nfc.2006.08.19.05.11.17; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEPcG-0005Hy-A0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:07:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEPcF-0005Hp-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:07:51 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEPcB-0004Tq-Gl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:07:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 9187 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 12:07:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.6]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 12:07:44 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:04:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.442,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4637 Thanks for this info Dave. Of course I have these x-tals; they also been used regulary for 80m fox hunting TX's. Biggest problem however, is to divide by 13........ I do not have to much schematics about dividers. I found another solution, hi I took an 4.433MHz X-tal and tuned it down to 4406kHz...... That divided by 16 will give me the 275.4kHz I need to drive the rest of the circuit. Any schematics/links about how to divide by 13 are welcome. I'll be on this afternoon 14-15ut on 136.550kHz +/- 50Hz with CW 8wpm beacon mode. Maybe, one of these days my signal might show up around 137.7 in QRSS 3...... Dick, pa4vhf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212169469732073714 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a8a28861e4789823b3258239b843f1df82e17b66 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86769qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5609517nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si17940nfb.2006.08.19.12.31.38; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWVc-0001nX-Ck for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:29:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWVb-0001nL-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:29:28 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEWVX-0007Xj-Gt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:29:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 27742 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 19:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.174]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 19:29:16 -0000 Message-ID: <005501c6c3c5$4a9218a0$74be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <000e01c6c3c2$89002e40$74be3b3e@fujitsu> <447962167.20060819212019@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:25:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.414,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF QRSS3--137.7kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4653 excellent! Know I have 2 screenshots, both showing the same QRG. So, now I know that I'm on 137.708kHz Thanks gentleman! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "Dick" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF QRSS3--137.7kHz > Dick, > > > testing with rather low power right now > > > Dick, pa4vhf > > attached a screenshot. Very high QRN level at the moment. Some > T-storms passed through this afternoon and it seems there are > approaching some more. > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212169469732073714 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a9defc5f597abc8adcbe83bcdbbcb5134a4d7712 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86498qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr5578031nfk; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si634810nfb.2006.08.19.12.25.09; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWNq-0001Qe-9i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:21:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWNp-0001QU-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:21:25 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEWNl-0007Tu-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:21:25 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GEWMm-0007WY-05; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:20:20 +0200 Received: from HW1 (r4M8JiZJreqrtrxSRGBts0z-r3n0CYpQ4ZU+8MvKLFCMbKDKshpe8C@[84.133.95.144]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GEWMk-1FA8tE0; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:20:18 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:20:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <447962167.20060819212019@t-online.de> To: Dick In-Reply-To: <000e01c6c3c2$89002e40$74be3b3e@fujitsu> References: <000e01c6c3c2$89002e40$74be3b3e@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r4M8JiZJreqrtrxSRGBts0z-r3n0CYpQ4ZU+8MvKLFCMbKDKshpe8C X-TOI-MSGID: a3197168-879e-4722-9c79-813859514676 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.781 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF QRSS3--137.7kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------6E42DD179051FE" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4654 ------------6E42DD179051FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, > testing with rather low power right now > Dick, pa4vhf attached a screenshot. Very high QRN level at the moment. 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C3D3.4BBF93C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4655 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C3D3.4BBF93C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable testing with rather low power right now Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C3D3.4BBF93C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
testing with rather low power right=20 now
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C3D3.4BBF93C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212249923204132589 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 751ecdef872e6e549da70e7ac2de34ecf6f96f97 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs124441qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr6690568nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si1990192nfc.2006.08.20.09.33.35; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEq9o-0006tv-1W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:28:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEq9n-0006tm-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:28:15 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEq9j-0007Mp-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:28:15 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GEq9i-0005NA-01; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:28:10 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Vm--CuZU8ec1phtdbDumZhbGYNFLT+DfGKXgPdkTBK+mn5PUUsKlZX@[84.133.117.251]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GEq9b-0eoO2q0; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:28:03 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:28:01 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1710642525.20060820182801@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Vm--CuZU8ec1phtdbDumZhbGYNFLT+DfGKXgPdkTBK+mn5PUUsKlZX X-TOI-MSGID: fd6ddb5c-9066-4c00-9223-0f91d07a5f64 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.880,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: Activity today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4663 Added captures of G3XDV, PA0BWL, PI4VPO/LT, SM1LCA and probably G3XIZ, taken around 136.55 kHz this morning, to my website. Saw DL2HRE calling PI4VPO/LT and DJ6GT calling G3KEV both with no luck. QRSS captures uploaded: PA4VHF, PA3FNY, PA3CPM and DL3ZID. PA4VHF drifted slightly from 137.708 to 137.710 during the transmission. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212228648618829904 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9af39da462c198dce15321e75a9dd527ec9a8d06 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112200qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6282067nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si880199nfe.2006.08.20.03.55.27; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkvP-0003cf-9Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:53:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkvO-0003cW-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:53:02 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEkvK-0004Ha-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:53:02 +0100 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820104408.QQYG1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:44:08 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820104408.LQGD644.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:44:08 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:44:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44E84B03.15967.C171FD@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.120,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: CW activity Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4664 Nice signal from the PI4VPO/LT expedition to Outddorp lighthouse. I gave them 559 during our QSO, but the signal was varying a lot (flash over?) and came up to 579 at times. They had a lot of problems with storms which (according to the excellent http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm were right over Holland!). Nice to hear some more CW on the band, though PA0BWL who was readable several months ago is now well under the S6 chatter from Rugby Loran. G3KEV was active as usual, and I also heard G3XIZ. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212153389763067474 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 570551d00069bf5baf461fec44bef1c1dc67235a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs75821qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr5338240nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si317436nfb.2006.08.19.07.59.14; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GESEX-0006f0-2P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:55:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GESEW-0006er-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:55:32 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep14-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GESES-0002er-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:55:32 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.93]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060819145136.HUGG13274.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:51:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c6c39e$fa0ad1e0$5d423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: References: <000601c6c21b$36d8a0f0$6501a8c0@woonkamer> <006401c6c235$886f7960$7ebe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:51:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.263,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz test sat aug 19 14-15utc PA4VHF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C3AF.BD6D7C40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4665 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C3AF.BD6D7C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -Dick , Heard your test transmission S6-S7 difficult to copy between bursts of = local QRN level well over S9+ . Frequency difficult to measure because = of high QRN level=20 73, William PA0WFO ---- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: LF: 136kHz test sat aug 19 14-15utc Hello all, I plan to run a test transmission at full power coming saturday, if = weather permits. Frequency: 136.550 kHz +/-50Hz in CW, about 8 wpm Time: 14.00 to 15.00 utc (16-17 local time) if everything stays = working, and have no fire, hihi Reports are very welcome, especially about what my real frequency is. This frequency is my latest update on my rig, which now contains an = VXO and one fixed channel : 136.550kHz My first impression is that I'm a bit higher in frequency.....but = difficult to determine. Therefore reports from others are a great value. Planned equipement: 500Watt into T-antenna, as described before. 73 Dick, PA4VHF--JO32eh ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C3AF.BD6D7C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-Dick ,
Heard your test transmission S6-S7 = difficult to=20 copy between bursts of  local QRN level well over S9+ . Frequency = difficult to measure because of high QRN level
 
73, William PA0WFO
 
 
 
---- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 = 9:40=20 PM
Subject: LF: 136kHz test sat = aug 19=20 14-15utc

Hello all,
 
I plan to run a test transmission at = full power=20 coming saturday, if weather permits.
 
Frequency: 136.550 kHz=20 +/-50Hz in CW, about 8 = wpm
 
Time: 14.00 to 15.00 utc (16-17 local = time) if=20 everything stays working, and have no fire, hihi
 
Reports are very welcome, especially = about what=20 my real frequency is.
 
This frequency is my latest update on = my rig,=20 which now contains an VXO and one fixed channel : = 136.550kHz
My first impression is that I'm a bit = higher in=20 frequency.....but difficult to determine.
Therefore reports from others are a = great=20 value.
 
Planned equipement: 500Watt into = T-antenna, as=20 described before.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF--JO32eh
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C3AF.BD6D7C40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212311594794272162 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 282ea5a74b7c9b63571b2c8fc3c9f4b9d285f711 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs157908qbh; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr7450519nfj; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si25239nfc.2006.08.21.01.53.50; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GF5TL-0007Zp-Rl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:49:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GF5TL-0007Zg-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:49:27 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GF5TI-0001U6-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:49:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 41905 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2006 08:49:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.109.26?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.109.26 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2006 08:49:13 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.3/423]); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:46:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c6c4fe$41aafce0$1a6d7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001901c6c4e3$d5ec6ee0$5bbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:46:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.537,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C506.A33D0A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4669 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C506.A33D0A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dick, LF Group, For QRSS and DFCW I usually use DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab together with = ON7YD's QRS - both programs can run simultaneously quite happily, with = SpecLab monitoring the outgoing transmission during TX as well as = receiving the incoming signals. I used these two programs on my old = P133 PC with Windows 95 - I found that I2PHD's Argo spectrogram software = wouldn't run on the win95 PC, although it was fine with later operating = systems - not sure if that was due to the computer hardware or the = operating system. Normally, the spectrogram software runs all the time, = with the TX/RX switching done by QRS. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: LF: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Hello all, =20 after the very sucsessfull atempts to run QRSS ths weekend, I want to = further upgrade the station for these modes. Therefore I'm looking for a programm that is able to transmit and = decode QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff'=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C506.A33D0A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dick, LF Group,
 
For QRSS and DFCW I usually use = DL4YHF's Spectrum=20 Lab together with ON7YD's QRS - both programs can run simultaneously = quite=20 happily, with SpecLab monitoring the outgoing transmission during TX as = well as=20 receiving the incoming signals. I used  these two programs on my = old P133=20 PC with Windows 95 - I found that I2PHD's Argo spectrogram software = wouldn't run=20 on the win95 PC, although it was fine with later operating systems - not = sure if=20 that was due to the computer hardware or the operating system. Normally, = the=20 spectrogram software runs all the time, with the TX/RX switching done by = QRS.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 = 6:36=20 AM
Subject: LF: software for TX = and RX=20 QRSS/DFCW

Hello all,
 
after the very sucsessfull atempts to = run QRSS=20 ths weekend, I want to further upgrade the station
for these modes.
Therefore I'm looking for a programm = that is able=20 to transmit and decode QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff' =
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C506.A33D0A40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211770010603072609 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 36e9695959d407e9f39b7628b348cb1f86d1d1b1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs235347qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.11 with SMTP id v11mr1063046nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si1427243nfc.2006.08.15.02.25.35; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCv7Y-0008Qh-VL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:22:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCv7Y-0008QY-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:22:00 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCv7V-0005KA-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:22:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 94543 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 09:21:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.108.169 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 09:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c6c04c$3daf8b80$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002201c6bfe2$c49a52c0$0300a8c0@lark> <001401c6c049$ebe46fc0$1f03210a@Hugh> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:21:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.562 Subject: LF: Re: Re: D2008 query Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4678 Hi Hugh I am not sure of the vintage of the unit in the query, I just remembered seeing something on one of the groups some time back suggesting there were others around, thanks for you observations, I will pass those on. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh_m0wye To: Sent: 15 August 2006 10:05 Subject: LF: Re: D2008 query > Hi Alan, > I assume this is Ebay item 110018394886 or 110015625846. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210939715612734101 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9d2d0bf6310836c2ca2fd989209490854ad6dba2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178368qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr7177511nfj; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si4420671nfe.2006.08.05.22.28.24; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9b9o-0006WX-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:26:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9b9n-0006WO-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:26:35 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9b9k-00063k-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:26:35 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 617246E7B9 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <006f01c6b918$cca1d770$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <004a01c6b912$5146c460$6501a8c0@eagles> <44D57AAB.7070808@telus.net> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:25:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.026,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Fried 640's Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4682 Scott, Sorry, I have been running the single 640 amp of Steve's for a number of weeks now at about 130 Watts input or about 100 W output. It has worked in rain, wind and sun and keeps on going. Because of its success, I thought that two 640s would just mean double the power. I did not realize that push-pull would mean less than a factor of 2. J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Sunday, 2006/08/06 05:14 AM Subject: Re: LF: VY1JA Beacon > J. > > Those IRF640 won't handle 200W. The slightest discontinuity and they'll > go... > > Scott > > > J. Allen wrote: >> Laurence, and Friends, >> >> VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W tonight. >> >> Steve is very likely correct, and I do not expect that you will even get >> a peep from here, but I appreciate that you are thinking about this >> beacon. >> >> The power level should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts by Wednesday >> evening, but that is likely still 3dB below 1W ierp. As soon as that amp >> gets going, the antenna current meter's number works it way to the top of >> the pile. The meter will be needed to calculate the size of the final >> amp. >> >> Continued thanks to everyone who has been sending summer captures and/or >> beacon signal reports. >> >> J. >> >> >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212064395973164341 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d089d94baa075ddf75cb1ec7e35c3ac96d4d8a83 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs26732qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr4226140nfj; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si53099nfa.2006.08.18.08.24.43; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6A9-0005IT-R3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6A9-0005IK-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:33 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GE6A3-0006cP-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 2759 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2006 15:20:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.122.174 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2006 15:20:20 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:21 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.777,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: PA0SE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C2E2.575E40B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4683 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C2E2.575E40B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Victor, LF, PA0SE "O" copy, along with static crashes. 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from network); 15 Aug 2006 18:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.2.15 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 18:47:05 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c6c09b$349b61a0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001c01c6c07d$4c8d2000$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:46:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.551 Subject: LF: Re: PA4VHF tests finished for now Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4686 The SWR antenna current is an interesting effect there are several things this could be ,.It could be that at the highest current you are providing the right reactive load to move the PA towards Class E or even away from it. This mode does not give best efficiency at the highest output current and must be tuned to the "right" power level and not for max smoke. You need to look at the DC power at each condition.....you may find you are runing 50 % more DC power for a little more antenna current. Sorry I was out today so not listening to your tests. 73 Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 15 August 2006 16:12 Subject: LF: PA4VHF tests finished for now When tuning the variometer I could see how the SWR changed, however with lowest SWR I didn't have the highest antenna current. There is a little difference between these 2. When tuning for max antennacurrent, the swr is not at it's lowest level, but a bit up, but below 1:1,5 I couldn'r run more power, because protection circuit of TX came in. Had to reduce voltage to 42V in order to keep the TX running. I have to change the output transformer I'm afraid. It does work perfect into a 50Ohm dummyload, but when connected to the antenna, things are different. Also burnt my fingers on a little metalswitch.......oeffffffff..there was strong RF present on TX case. TX was close , within 3m of antenna.......can't advise that, hi. Later changed that to 6m, and no more RF-on case, hi. 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813745061407484 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3d1e65c30d1b990fda4ab281c2404c9f6d90ca88 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs264292qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr1845262nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si2392105nfc.2006.08.15.14.00.44; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zv-0005Wz-2h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zu-0005Wm-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:50 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD5zq-0005V8-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 18255 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 2006 20:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.25]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 20:58:43 -0000 Message-ID: <005101c6c0ad$221f7540$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:55:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.498,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS software, win 95 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C0BD.E2BE1DA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4687 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C0BD.E2BE1DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sri, it have to run on a windows 95 system..... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to = TX QRSS with a computer? 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C0BD.E2BE1DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sri, it have to run on a windows 95=20 system.....
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 = 10:38=20 PM
Subject: LF: simple QRSS = software

Where can I find a simple, and not = too large to=20 download programm to TX QRSS with a computer?
 
73
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C0BD.E2BE1DA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211713091745633601 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 138287ac4366becab752f6a7cd0b9fdf90185a4c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs211084qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr207250nfl; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si206751nfb.2006.08.14.11.20.53; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCgwu-0003pR-AW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:14:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCgwt-0003pI-Qw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:14:03 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCgwp-0006w1-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:14:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 8851 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2006 18:09:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.117]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Aug 2006 18:09:30 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c6bfcc$56290400$75be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:05:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.554,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: antenna current meter troubles Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6BFDD.009CEE00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4689 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6BFDD.009CEE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well it seems very likely that my antennacurrent meter is not working as = it should be. The ringcore is likely much too close to the main loading coil. It's less than 10cm (4 inch) away from the coil. I have to make a new external meter that can be placed away from the = loading coil. Anyone with experience about minimum distance between loading coil and = antennacurrent meter, and how about shielding the antennacurrent pick-up core with a metal = (not grounded!) screen? 73 Dick ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6BFDD.009CEE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well it seems very likely that my = antennacurrent=20 meter is not working as it should be.
 
The ringcore is likely much too close = to the main=20 loading coil.
It's less than 10cm (4 inch) away from = the=20 coil.
 
I have to make a new external meter = that can be=20 placed away from the loading coil.
 
Anyone with experience about minimum = distance=20 between loading coil and antennacurrent meter,
and how about shielding the = antennacurrent pick-up=20 core with a metal (not grounded!) screen?
 
73
 
Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6BFDD.009CEE00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210791299256549807 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a7f743a06369202d22ff7ad09f8fc5b4ea38120e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs136064qbh; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr5308785nfi; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si2517815nfe.2006.08.04.07.09.24; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G90I5-00051x-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:04:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G90I5-00051o-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:04:41 +0100 Received: from smtp05.wanadoo.nl ([194.134.35.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G90I1-00020Z-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:04:40 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id BE023467D3 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:04:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:03:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8bf118410608040224x54123552x85a76d96721aadca@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.092,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: news photos etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7DF.9753F650" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4690 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7DF.9753F650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dave, when exactly is yout deadline and wat is your direct e-mail address? 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Dave Pick Verzonden: vrijdag 4 augustus 2006 11:24 Aan: LF Group; lowfer@lwca.org Onderwerp: LF: news photos etc Dear all It's getting near the deadline for the next Radcom LF column and as = it's the middle of the fallow summer period I could do with some news of = your experiments, pictures etc. Anything LF related. Thanks.=20 Dave. --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7DF.9753F650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hello=20 Dave,
 
when=20 exactly is yout deadline and wat is your direct e-mail=20 address?
 
73
Victor
PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Dave=20 Pick
Verzonden: vrijdag 4 augustus 2006 11:24
Aan: = LF=20 Group; lowfer@lwca.org
Onderwerp: LF: news photos=20 etc

Dear all

It's getting near the deadline = for the=20 next Radcom LF column and as it's the middle of the fallow summer = period I=20 could do with some news of your experiments, pictures etc.
Anything = LF=20 related.

Thanks.
Dave.

--
G3YXM = IO92BK=20 Birmingham UK
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6B7DF.9753F650-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210643322401667455 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e80a0e03df633849657f43843c5cf90c236d486d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs90279qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr2997561nfk; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si171023nfe.2006.08.02.15.57.21; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8PbM-0006Op-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:54:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8PbL-0006Og-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:54:07 +0100 Received: from f2phy.netins.net ([167.142.229.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8PbH-0003by-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:54:07 +0100 X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.56] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.10) with ESMTP id 999618736 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:50:16 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <006301c6b686$01cbe390$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <323.96e1934.32026c85@aol.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.503,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 5 MHz - 60 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0064_01C6B65C.18F5DB90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4691 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C6B65C.18F5DB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi from Iowa! =20 As long as this topic is up and running does anyone know of a 5MHz. only transceiver? 73, =20 Doc. =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 16:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic =20 In a message dated 02/08/2006 20:46:55 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Hi All, Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be = modded to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. 73 Gary - G4WGT I believe the FT847 after being modified for wideband operation will = work on 70MHz. However you will not get full power on that band. A call to = Martin Lynch will get the details. =20 Regards =20 David ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C6B65C.18F5DB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi from = Iowa!<= /p>

 

As long as this topic is up and = running does anyone know of a 5MHz. only transceiver? 73,

 

Doc.

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com
Sent:
Wednesday, August 02, 2006 16:01
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 70 MHz - = 4 Mtrs - off topic

 

In a message dated 02/08/2006 20:46:55 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk = writes:

Hi All,

Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment = if anyone
knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be = modded
to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band.

73

Gary - G4WGT

I believe the FT847 after being modified for wideband operation will work = on 70MHz.  However you will not get full power on that band.  A = call to Martin Lynch will get the details.

 

Regards

 

David

------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C6B65C.18F5DB90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211592391507230774 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ae080b665a46056ccaee09fbe2db119003b501aa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs168156qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr64133nfj; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si5986130nfb.2006.08.13.03.22.24; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCD31-0003Ld-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:18:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCD30-0003LU-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:18:22 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCD2w-0007E6-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:18:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 15544 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2006 10:17:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.117.188 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2006 10:17:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c6bec1$a2e63800$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003901c6be46$2f6871c0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> <001401c6be49$6d97e900$0300a8c0@lark> <007001c6be4a$05f2e6a0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> <004c01c6be55$9b1e7540$0300a8c0@lark> <000401c6beb1$e51cda40$18be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:59:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.862 Subject: LF: Re: PA4VHF tests/problems? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4693 Hi Dick well if you have 140volts peak-to-peak, across the 50 ohm load, on the scope that is 140/2.82 Vrms =49Vrms. then the RF power is 49*49/50 watt....so about 50 watt. Thus the current meter should read about 1 Amp (I*I*R=50) I cant remember the conclusion of the discussion but there was some suggestion recently when JAllen in Yukon had similar problem sorting his much bigger antenna. I cautioned about the possible reported odd effects when a ferrite antenna current meter was placed close to the top of (i.e. in the RF field of) a loading coil. I have no personal experience of this but several early experimenters in the UK reported this effect and there was a big search for old RF thermoammeters. Jim did comment on his thoughts on what the effect might be. I cant remember the full story now. It might be worth searching back through the messages. It turned out not to be the problem in this instance more that the antenna was tuned well below 136 and the thermoammeter was blown so showing no current. Ok the drive frequency is 136, but if you hang a tuned circuit on the output (accidentally) that happens to be tuned to a harmonic it will extract harmonic power, which is bound to be there to some extent in any power stage. Andy G4JNK reports blowing FETs because he fed his matching tap on his tapped loading coil with a short length of coax. On calculation, I believe the capacity of the coax and inductance of the tapped part of the coil resonated at about 400khz., 3rd harmonic. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 13 August 2006 09:23 Subject: LF: PA4VHF tests/problems? > Thanks Alan for the suggestion. > > Well while tuning the variometer everything seemed working as it should be. > The SWR nice dropped to zero, while the antennacurrent raised. > With help of a separate receiver I was able to figure out that I was > certainly not tuning on a harmonic. > > So, there really might be some extra capacitance produced by the > coilwindings etc. > > About the antenna current, one reason might be an insufficient earth, as I > just connected the ground tap > to a groundrod with 5m wire to my groundrod 'somewhere' in the garden. > > I built up the transmitter again, but now connected to a 50Ohm dummyload, > instead of the coil antenna etc. > Used exact the same coaxial cables. > SWR/PWR meter shows same value as with the loading coil/antenna connected, > and also DC input power > seems the same. > So, that gives me reason to believe it's ok. > > Question however is the exact amount of power, hi. > > I am measuring 140 Volt top-top on a oscilloscope parallel with the 50 Ohm > dummy load. (at the dummy load) > DC input is 13.0V/7.5A (that's 97.5W DC input) > > For some reason I can't figure out the right formula to calculate the power > into the dummy load. > I get wrong figures al the time. > > I'm more a practical man, hi > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF > > > my testfrequency as always is around 136.1kHz from an X-tal > oscillator/divider. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211095590103904101 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fe624154c411e733f8ef66a9bb2a4d722bdbde76 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs221627qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr55196nfl; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si670540nfa.2006.08.07.15.45.58; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GADnX-0002u9-Sk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:42:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GADnX-0002u0-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:42:11 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GADnT-00064B-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:42:11 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 7D96217A0 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:48:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <00be01c6ba72$a137bae0$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" References: <21235428.1154953935178.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <44D738BB.70200@w1tag.com> <44D786AC.8010204@telus.net> <7.0.1.0.1.20060807150221.01b47bf0@magma.ca> <44D792FD.9070203@telus.net> <000f01c6ba5b$0e19cd00$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:41:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.054,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: LW propagation Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4694 Friends, Alan's post makes me wonder if it is possible... > As a "consolation prize" daylight paths of 1000 to 2000km, should improve > by about 10 dBs on Tuesday and possibly also Wednesday. Any observations > of > these effects would be interesting. For those within 1000-2000 Km of VY1JA: The beacon is currently operating 24/7 on ~137778.4, so for Tue/Wed, try for captures during the daylight as well. I am curious to see if a summer daylight path is possible with a little help from the solar weather. I have copied VE7SL during the winter, in daylight hours and sent the capture to him. I do not remember if solar weather was a part of that or not, but, if I am not mistaken, he was using the same 100 Watt transmitter which I am now borrowing. 73, J From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210986944088293178 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8baf08303d08f7dd1aa626559337ca2ed27cd5eb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs190008qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr383085nfl; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si5007407nfc.2006.08.06.10.59.05; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9mpV-0001mT-Bk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:54:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9mpU-0001mK-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:54:24 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9mpQ-0007Qc-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:54:24 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1G9mpO-0005qv-05; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:54:18 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ZGt7T0ZvoelHk1W-RP3fE7ho7LwhDqN-PAjOlgurrCGR99r+e5SVsC@[84.133.120.188]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1G9mpI-1l6I4W0; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 19:54:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 19:54:12 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <458716097.20060806195412@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ZGt7T0ZvoelHk1W-RP3fE7ho7LwhDqN-PAjOlgurrCGR99r+e5SVsC X-TOI-MSGID: 258c9042-4bb5-41f0-9319-4d63db8766d9 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.796 Subject: LF: EU and T/A activity today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4695 Added screenshots of DJ6GT, F6BWO, G3WCB, G3XDV, G3XIZ, PA3FNY and WD2XES (WOLF) to my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210996071782888048 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 997abbc69d4a1e8e70d86a63d3ba0ac78d97a5f8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191634qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr1319747nfi; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si5099108nfc.2006.08.06.13.24.09; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9p8c-0002iP-V8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:22:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9p8c-0002iG-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:22:18 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9p8Y-0008Na-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:22:18 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2006 21:22:06 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAF/q1USKXg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:2941 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9p8Q-000LVF-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:22:06 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:23:04 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.747,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: KL1X Grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4698 Looks like Laurence is not staying up tonight (morning in Singapore) as the grabber is not running. Gary - G4WGT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212228615476300459 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2be4117449aa55c855919b7af273555b2f048036 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112183qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr6327281nfl; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si260011nfa.2006.08.20.03.54.55; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkvC-0003bi-7S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:52:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkvB-0003bZ-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:52:49 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEkv7-0004HT-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:52:49 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.0.214) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447F00ED006EF2A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:52:06 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c6c446$bef63880$d60024d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:52:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.925,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PI4VLO/LT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C6C446.BDC077A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C6C446.BDC077A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002A_01C6C446.BDC077A0" ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C6C446.BDC077A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 20./08/2006 1041z Good morning to the PI4VLO's team and all,=20 Very nice signs fromPI4VLO / LT (~136480) this morning. RST 579 in JN09tt.=20 Please,try to transmit more slowly, it is not WPX contest! My station for the time: SPM3, 2 meter 6 turns loop (Q=3D600), Z = adaptator and preamplifier (6dB gain) with two E430 Siliconix, ARGO and = a old PC! If to start again this operation during winter, I think that it will be = going to be tremendous for DX! So good sign and no QRN, "hummm", one = delight! VY 73 and TU again! Jeff F6CWN =20 (still SWL, not for a long time ,i hope, the LF tower is still lying in = the grass...) ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C6C446.BDC077A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
20./08/2006   1041z
 
 Good morning to the = PI4VLO's team=20 and all,
 
 Very nice signs fromPI4VLO / LT = (~136480) this=20 morning.
 RST 579 in JN09tt.
Please,try to transmit more slowly, it is not = WPX=20 contest!
 
 My = station for the=20 time: SPM3, 2 meter 6 turns loop (Q=3D600), Z adaptator and=20 preamplifier (6dB gain) with two E430 Siliconix, ARGO and a old=20 PC!
 
 If to start again this operation during winter, I = think that=20 it will be going to be tremendous for DX! So good sign and no QRN, = "hummm", one = delight!
 
VY 73 and TU=20 again!
 
Jeff = F6CWN =20
(still SWL, not for = a long time=20 ,i hope, the LF tower is still lying in the=20 grass...)
 
 
 
 
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Correction ! time must be 8.00Hrs UTC till 12.00 Hrs UTC=20 sorry, William PA0WFO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "PA0WFO" To: Operators :"Dan van der Wagt PA0AKN" ; = "Hans v.d Pennen PA3GXB" Subject: International light house weekend > To All from PA0WFO > 73,William >> >> During the ILHW weekend on 19 and 20 august there will be manual CW = >> activity by members >> of the radio club Voorne Putten e.o on 135.7 to 137.8 kc/s centre = freq. >> 136.540 ropex channel during 8.00 and 10.00 UTC with the call sign=20 >> PI4VPO/LT. >> Station with 120 watts into a vertical of 50 metres with a toploading = from >> the lighthouse NET 074 in Ouddorp on the isle of Flakkee abt 40Klm SW = of=20 >> Rotterdam >> Reprts of listeners are also very welcome via e-mail; = pa0akn@amsat.org > ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C6B66C.EEB2DB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Correction ! time must be 8.00Hrs UTC till 12.00 Hrs UTC=20
sorry, = William=20 PA0WFO
----- = Original Message=20 -----
From: = "PA0WFO"=20 <pa0wfo@chello.nl>
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Operators   :"Dan van der Wagt PA0AKN"=20 <d.f.vander.wagt@12move.nl>; "Hans v.d Pennen PA3GXB"=20 <pa3gxb@hotmail.com>
 
Subject: = International=20 light house weekend

> To All  from PA0WFO
> = 73,William
>>
>>=20 During the  ILHW weekend on 19 and 20 august there will be  = manual CW=20
>> activity by members
>> of the radio club Voorne = Putten e.o=20 on 135.7 to 137.8 kc/s centre freq.
>> 136.540 ropex channel = during=20 8.00 and 10.00 UTC with the call sign
>> = PI4VPO/LT.
>>=20 Station with 120 watts into a vertical of 50 metres with a toploading=20 from
>> the lighthouse NET 074 in Ouddorp on the isle of = Flakkee abt=20 40Klm SW of
>> Rotterdam
>> Reprts of listeners are = also very=20 welcome via e-mail;
pa0akn@amsat.org
> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C6B66C.EEB2DB60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450997663737582 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9f5fa347d8062d8118865aae118b27291318de7c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs128767qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr4261289nfj; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si976846nfc.2006.08.11.13.55.01; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdzI-0001O8-46 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:52:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdzH-0001Nz-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:52:11 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBdzD-0006OJ-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:52:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 8345 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2006 20:52:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.41]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 11 Aug 2006 20:52:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c6bd87$88c22fa0$29be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> <010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:48:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.648,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4703 Well, thanks Alan and Brian for the comments sofar..... It will be not my intention to use it as a TX antenna to make QSO's....... I just need "something" to connect to my loading coil/variometer to check if things are working, and to check if the step up transformer stays cool now..... So, I suppose I have to change the vertical download to 3 parallel wires, and change the topload to 3 wider spaced wires. I'll try to get them as far apart as possible, I guess that will be 50cm spacing, thus overall width 1 meter I gues by connecting the outher parts together will give me another 1m on each side...... Thanks sofar Will try to change things tomorrow if WX permits Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211792466006693092 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0f492985c02d8f51498e4c40d3bb4ed380ae9afd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs249978qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr1477373nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si1961149nfa.2006.08.15.08.22.30; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD0eZ-0002a9-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:16:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD0eY-0002a0-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:16:26 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD0eU-0003lf-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:16:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 8060 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 2006 15:16:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.76]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 15:16:16 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c6c07d$4c8d2000$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:12:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.573,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF tests finished for now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6C08D.FA930A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4708 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6C08D.FA930A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Victor and Hartmut for listening, and Hartmut thanks for the = screenshots. It's the first time ever I see my callsign on a screenshot! Equipement was about 300Watt DC input, I don't know exact output, maybe = 200Watt or so. Antenna is 3 parallel wires each 7.5m long, 40cm spacing and about 7m above ground in between buildings. Vertical part is also 3 parallel wires, same spacing. Antenna current was over 1 ampere, got about 800mA with 50Watt, but = couldn't measure exact value above 1Ampere. The core heating problem is still there, but it seems less compaired to = before. When tuning the variometer I could see how the SWR changed, however with = lowest SWR I didn't have the highest antenna current. There is a little difference between these 2. When tuning for max antennacurrent, the swr is not at it's lowest level, = but a bit up, but below 1:1,5 I couldn'r run more power, because protection circuit of TX came in. Had to reduce voltage to 42V in order to keep the TX running. I have to change the output transformer I'm afraid. It does work perfect into a 50Ohm dummyload, but when connected to the = antenna, things are different. Also burnt my fingers on a little metalswitch.......oeffffffff..there = was strong RF present on TX case. TX was close , within 3m of antenna.......can't advise that, hi. Later changed that to 6m, and no more RF-on case, hi. 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6C08D.FA930A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Victor and Hartmut for = listening, and=20 Hartmut thanks for the screenshots.
It's the first time ever I see my = callsign on a=20 screenshot!
 
Equipement was about 300Watt DC input, = I don't know=20 exact output, maybe 200Watt or so.
 
Antenna is 3 parallel wires each 7.5m = long, 40cm=20 spacing
and about 7m above ground in between=20 buildings.
Vertical part is also 3 parallel wires, = same=20 spacing.
 
Antenna current was over 1 ampere, got = about 800mA=20 with 50Watt, but couldn't measure exact value above = 1Ampere.
 
The core heating problem is still = there, but it=20 seems less compaired to before.
 
When tuning the variometer I could see = how the SWR=20 changed, however with lowest SWR I didn't have the highest antenna=20 current.
There is a little difference between = these=20 2.
When tuning for max antennacurrent, the = swr is not=20 at it's lowest level, but a bit up, but below 1:1,5
 
I couldn'r run more power, because = protection=20 circuit of TX came in.
Had to reduce voltage to 42V in order = to keep the=20 TX running.
 
I have to change the output transformer = I'm=20 afraid.
It does work perfect into a 50Ohm = dummyload, but=20 when connected to the antenna, things are different.
 
Also burnt my fingers on a little=20 metalswitch.......oeffffffff..there was strong RF present on TX=20 case.
TX was close , within 3m of = antenna.......can't=20 advise that, hi.
Later changed that to 6m, and no more = RF-on case,=20 hi.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6C08D.FA930A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210774005938310037 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 84600231e4098f0c5b8d865e9d1fd7f662251c75 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs130837qbh; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr5016416nfi; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si2262711nfc.2006.08.04.02.34.30; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8vvh-00044f-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:25:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8vvg-00044W-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:25:17 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.180]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8vvb-0004KW-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:25:16 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so190486pya for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UW5Zrr4OHhn9vtliWOeWh20516ZimK8Ict7olLl7lKD8pY1vaKCMydYeHTh8KskVCnCq9Z3BGNKTI/5YYwmtv1jQs0nsd9dwua2BdfJuOqa3NrFcbsdSnpJl8bTpwtT/Oq4zK2tIOJj31PyM3xMerQBHbbbAUJfyg7JcqmP4UEc= Received: by 10.65.122.20 with SMTP id z20mr4106204qbm; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.249.16 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410608040224x54123552x85a76d96721aadca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:24:00 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" , lowfer@lwca.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.167,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: news photos etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41052_5294532.1154683440783" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4711 ------=_Part_41052_5294532.1154683440783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all It's getting near the deadline for the next Radcom LF column and as it's the middle of the fallow summer period I could do with some news of your experiments, pictures etc. Anything LF related. Thanks. Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_41052_5294532.1154683440783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all

It's getting near the deadline for the next Radcom LF column and as it's the middle of the fallow summer period I could do with some news of your experiments, pictures etc.
Anything LF related.

Thanks.
Dave.

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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_41052_5294532.1154683440783-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212152972888745155 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 34dccd07b0166e9cab89f55a01da72f774776ecf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs75509qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr5337385nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si19535nfc.2006.08.19.07.52.37; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GES6t-0006Xa-3k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:47:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GES6s-0006XR-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:47:38 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GES6n-00065O-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:47:37 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter06.comcast.net ([204.127.197.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060819144644m120018uiee>; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:46:49 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter06.comcast.net; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:46:42 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:46:42 +0000 Message-Id: <081920061446.24898.44E724520006E70B0000614222007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.653 Subject: LF: New Receiver X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4715 Hello the lists, Icom is apparently getting ready to release a new high performance receiver, the R-9500. Frequency coverage is 5kHz-3335MHz ! One receiver for your LF, MF,HF,VHF,UHF and microwave station! Details at: http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/ Warning probably NOT CHEAP! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212052982397626908 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 854cb297859802232eb99174ac08f9c2e4492ada Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs16646qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr3925896nfj; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si294162nfc.2006.08.18.05.23.18; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE3KA-000430-0N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE3K9-00042r-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:41 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep11-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GE3K6-0005Do-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:19:41 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.93]) by amsfep13-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060818120959.VWJZ1849.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN>; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:09:59 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c6c2bf$3be34510$5d423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: Cc: "Hans v.d Pennen PA3GXB" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:10:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.507,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: 137 kcs uitzendingen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C2CF.FF4D1B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,HTTP_WITH_EMAIL_IN_URL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4716 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C2CF.FF4D1B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To All , The chairman Hans van der Pennen PA3GXB of the Radio Club Voorne Putten = and surroundings ( subdivision region 42 of the Veron ) asked me to put = the following message on the "reflector" . Herewith I gladly oblige and = wish them succes with their experiments . 73, William Oorschot PA0WFO=20 During the International Light House Weekend on august 19th and 20th = there will be manual CW activity by members of the radio club Voorne = Putten e.o on 135.7 to 137.8 kc/s centre frequency 136.540 (Ropex = channel) from 8.00 Hrs UTC till 12.00 Hrs UTC with the call sign = PI4VPO/Lt. during which times the operators can be reached at mob tel no = 0031651144646 ( PA3GXB Hans van der Pennen ) The station with 120 watts into a vertical of 50 metres with a top = loading will be active from the lighthouse "Westhoofd" NET 074 in = Ouddorp on the isle of Flakkee, about 40 Kilometres southwest of = Rotterdam. Operators of the station will be PA=D8AKN and PA3GXB. All = received QSL cards will be honoured by a special 137 kc/s QSL card. = Reports of listeners are also very welcome by QSL card or direct via = e-mail; pa0akn@amsat.org ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C2CF.FF4D1B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
To All=20 ,
The chairman  Hans van der = Pennen PA3GXB of=20 the Radio Club Voorne Putten and surroundings ( subdivision region 42 of = the=20 Veron ) asked me to put the following message on the "reflector" . = Herewith I=20 gladly oblige and wish them succes with their experiments=20 .
73, William Oorschot=20 PA0WFO 

 

 

During the International Light House Weekend on august = 19th=20  and 20th there will be manual CW activity by members of = the=20 radio club Voorne Putten e.o on 135.7 to 137.8 kc/s centre frequency = 136.540=20 (Ropex channel) from  8.00 Hrs UTC till 12.00 Hrs UTC with the = call=20 sign PI4VPO/Lt. during which times the operators can be reached at mob = tel no=20 0031651144646 ( PA3GXB Hans van der Pennen )
The station with 120 watts into a vertical of 50 metres = with a top=20 loading will be active from the lighthouse =93Westhoofd=94 NET 074 in = Ouddorp on the=20 isle of Flakkee,  about 40 = Kilometres southwest of Rotterdam.
Operators of the station will be PA=D8AKN and PA3GXB. All = received QSL=20 cards will be honoured by a special 137 kc/s QSL card.=20 Reports of listeners are also very welcome by QSL card or = direct=20  via e-mail; pa0akn@amsat.org

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1GBSl6-0007UB-E0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:52:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBSl5-0007U2-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:52:47 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.92]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBSl1-0002VY-1p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:52:47 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W9 ([207.46.11.172]) by bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:52:36 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Roelof Bakker" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:52:36 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2006 08:52:36.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DE8C670:01C6BD23] X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.076,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_689c0935-9a32-4645-bea9-2caad3742600_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: 134.1Khz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4721 --_689c0935-9a32-4645-bea9-2caad3742600_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable roelof - that coupling was a 680nF not pf, my p's instead of n's - ! Well i= ts going to get used again this weekend as Ive just been told to stay here = till next Wednesday again (oh what a shame) - so Ill unpack the rx again an= d shove up the probe on the fishing pole from here in the 12th floor of the= hotel. Im going to try it on VLF into the sound card and use SDR/Spec and = see what I can hear. Wasnt so good last night lots of qrn and didnt hear/se= e the HBG time signal nor DCF39. That MSFSK signal on 54Khz (carrier) is pr= etty strong in the evenings so definitely East of here and maybe Canadian a= s Scott indicated. The signal on 133Khz is a local fluffy object with wings= and not datatrack (thanks for the clips chaps). Ive got the hotel electric= ian to remove the 2 x 7W flourescent tubes from my patio whilst Im here....= .they were flashing and causing noise, and the concierge has come up with a= nother length of 30mm diameter white pipe "with end caps" - quite some ser= vice from this hotel n'est pas. =20 I should be LF rx qrv from Wasilla Alaska from the 24th-28th August if Im = allowed to carry electronics onto the flight. Laurence OJ11 Singapore (still) > From: roelof@ndb.demon.nl> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Wed, 9= Aug 2006 18:19:41 +0200> Subject: LF: Re: 134.1Khz> > Hello Laurence,> > G= lad to hear the design is working fine. Though there are now more than 120 = > around, as far as I know, it is the first one in Asia!> > >> The only dif= ference to the original design is a slightly longer (cap) > >> aerial, add= ed another few cms there, and the inter-stage coupling > >> increased to 6= 80pF from 560pF, only because thats what they have and not > >> to improve = the LF side <<> > This value is not very critical, but it should be in the = order of > 100 nF > (0.1 =B5F) to achieve good VLF performance. 680 pF is a= little on the low > side, I guess.> > Adding a few cm length to the PCB an= tenna does not make much of a > difference.> Doubling the size gives only 3= dB(m) more signal. It has been designed to > prevent overload of the recei= ver, but again nothing critical.> > I am following your endeavers with grea= t interest.> > Best regards,> > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_689c0935-9a32-4645-bea9-2caad3742600_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= roelof - that coupling was a 680nF not pf, my p's instead of n's - ! = Well its going to get used again this weekend as Ive just been told to stay= here till next Wednesday again (oh what a shame) - so Ill unpack the rx ag= ain and shove up the probe on the fishing pole from here in the 12th floor = of the hotel. Im going to try it on VLF into the sound card and use SDR/Spe= c and see what I can hear. Wasnt so good last night lots of qrn and didnt h= ear/see the HBG time signal nor DCF39. That MSFSK signal on 54Khz (carrier)= is pretty strong in the evenings so definitely East of here and maybe Cana= dian as Scott indicated. The signal on 133Khz is a local fluffy object with= wings and not datatrack (thanks for the clips chaps). Ive got the hotel el= ectrician to remove the 2 x 7W flourescent tubes from my patio whilst Im he= re.....they were flashing and causing noise, and the concierge has come up = with another length of 30mm diameter white pipe "with end caps" - &nbs= p;quite some service from this hotel n'est pas.
 
 I should be LF rx qrv from Wasilla Alaska from the 24th-28th August i= f Im allowed to carry electronics onto the flight.
Laurence OJ11 Singapore (still)







> From: roelof@ndb.demon.nl
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:19:41 +0200
> Subject: LF: Re: 134.1Khz=
>
> Hello Laurence,
>
> Glad to h= ear the design is working fine. Though t= here are now more than 120 
> around,&n= bsp;as far as I know, it is the fir= st one in Asia!
>
> >> The only=  difference to the  original design is&n= bsp;a slightly longer (cap) 
> >> aeri= al, added another few cms there,  and&nb= sp;the inter-stage coupling 
> >> increased=  to 680pF from 560pF, only because thats=  what they have and not 
> >>&nbs= p;to improve the LF side <<
>
>= This value is not very critical, but it=  should be in the order of > 100=  nF 
> (0.1 =B5F) to achieve good = VLF performance. 680 pF is a little on&n= bsp;the low 
> side, I guess.
>
> Ad= ding a few cm length to the PCB ant= enna does not make much of a 
> di= fference.
> Doubling the size gives only 3&n= bsp;dB(m) more signal. It has been designed&n= bsp;to 
> prevent overload of the receiver,&= nbsp;but again nothing critical.
>
> I am&= nbsp;following your endeavers with great interest.=
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roelof Bakker,&n= bsp;pa0rdt
>
>  
>
>



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Windows Live Messenger!=0A= = --_689c0935-9a32-4645-bea9-2caad3742600_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211252742720040667 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4be7198e43cf5aa3026f21854af63028c9f9365a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs54194qbh; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr1716673nfl; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si290929nfc.2006.08.09.09.23.37; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAqmj-0006cS-Pd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:19:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAqmj-0006cJ-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:19:57 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GAqmf-0007oY-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:19:57 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:29167 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GAqme-000PVS-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:19:52 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c6bbcf$9e65e4a0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:19:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.393 Subject: LF: Re: 134.1Khz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4722 Hello Laurence, Glad to hear the design is working fine. Though there are now more than 120 around, as far as I know, it is the first one in Asia! >> The only difference to the original design is a slightly longer (cap) >> aerial, added another few cms there, and the inter-stage coupling >> increased to 680pF from 560pF, only because thats what they have and not >> to improve the LF side << This value is not very critical, but it should be in the order of > 100 nF (0.1 �F) to achieve good VLF performance. 680 pF is a little on the low side, I guess. Adding a few cm length to the PCB antenna does not make much of a difference. Doubling the size gives only 3 dB(m) more signal. It has been designed to prevent overload of the receiver, but again nothing critical. I am following your endeavers with great interest. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211902904513898922 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 23e2cbc2469aa25a4a2070a9e8a996c8a7697804 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs311960qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1249980nfi; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si4180468nfa.2006.08.16.14.12.12; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDScM-0007U2-8y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDScL-0007Tt-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:01 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDScF-0004Ef-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471A14D013 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12994D114 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836912CAAF8; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A4B2CAAD0 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C3E0F1A9833; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 31.92-200-80.adsl.skynet.be (31.92-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.92.31]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20060816230746.uvjd7ewhk1cscskc@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:07:46 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005101c6c171$4b64cbc0$58be3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <005101c6c171$4b64cbc0$58be3b3e@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.92.31 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: OK1DX-DDS for 136kHz, schematic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4723 Dick, to print whatever picture you find on the web on whatever size you like: 1. put the mouse on the picture, click right and select "copy" 2. paste the picture in WORD (or another application) 3. resize the picture to the size you need and print the document Eventually use landscape format 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Dick : > Found it at g3yxm''s site, but the schematic is too large to fit on > my screen, and to print it on din A4 > which is normal size paper here. > Anyone has this schematic in pdf or at least in such a way that it does fit ? > > Thanks > > Dick, pa4vhf > > tried to make 136.5kHz by divinding 3,2768 by 12 (I need 2x136.5 = > 273kHz) but have problems to > get an 7493 running as divide by 12 > ...... Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211902904513898922 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d2384a2ae39e6ca0ad87a5fbd1ce6fa697bf551c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs310827qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.94.20 with SMTP id w20mr1225255nfl; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si4154500nfe.2006.08.16.13.37.52; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDS3L-000737-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:31:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDS3L-00072y-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:31:51 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDS3I-0003xF-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:31:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 22606 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2006 20:22:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.88]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 16 Aug 2006 20:22:57 -0000 Message-ID: <005101c6c171$4b64cbc0$58be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:19:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.133,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: OK1DX-DDS for 136kHz, schematic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C182.0E5E2D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4724 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C182.0E5E2D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found it at g3yxm''s site, but the schematic is too large to fit on my = screen, and to print it on din A4 which is normal size paper here. Anyone has this schematic in pdf or at least in such a way that it does = fit ? Thanks Dick, pa4vhf tried to make 136.5kHz by divinding 3,2768 by 12 (I need 2x136.5 =3D = 273kHz) but have problems to get an 7493 running as divide by 12 ...... ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C182.0E5E2D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Found it at g3yxm''s site, but the = schematic is too=20 large to fit on my screen, and to print it on din A4
which is normal size paper = here.
Anyone has this schematic in pdf or at = least in=20 such a way that it does fit ?
 
Thanks
 
Dick, pa4vhf
 
tried to make 136.5kHz by divinding = 3,2768 by 12 (I=20 need 2x136.5 =3D 273kHz) but have problems to
get an 7493 running as divide by = 12
......
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C6C182.0E5E2D00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212067175404692710 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f1d28062ed2822519c9472b950a63fd612c1f0fe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs28898qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr4285905nfi; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si376372nfc.2006.08.18.09.08.53; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6oB-0005dF-Bl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6oA-0005d0-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout0162.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.162] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GE6o4-0006nl-9Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:54 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.66) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF900314981 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:02:37 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c6c2df$b92f7af0$42e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:59:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.010 Subject: LF: decca socket Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4726 Hi All Does anyone know where I can get a 24 pin decca 5501 module socket. I need one for outboard experiments with a module. Other 24 pin sockets/plugs used with ancillary decca equipment although looking the same have different contact spacing. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211536991499653337 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: abbd4093814500c4d4d2dcde3fba46cd153a4d1a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs153838qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr5406896nfi; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si6346463nfc.2006.08.12.12.41.51; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBzHt-0006Rh-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:36:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBzHt-0006RY-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:36:49 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBzHo-0003Uj-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:36:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 18779 invoked by uid 0); 12 Aug 2006 19:36:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.51]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 12 Aug 2006 19:36:39 -0000 Message-ID: <003901c6be46$2f6871c0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:33:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.602,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6BE56.F27D4A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4727 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6BE56.F27D4A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: PA4VHF small backyard tests Well, changed the antenna and fired up my little teststation this = afternoon in my backyard. Antenna: 3 wires 7.5m long spaced 40cm each , vertical part about 6m = long also 3 parallel wires spaced 40cm each. Feed is about 2m from the far end. Measured about 170pF and 60 Ohm (?) with bridge, noisesource/136kHz = oscillator and RX. With variometer and loading coil connected, I needed about 6,7mH to tune = things, where I expected to find=20 around 8,0mH. Somewhere I got around 30-40pF extra. Maybe internal capacity of the = loading coils??? With 100Watt DC-input I got about 200mA antenna current sofar. Remarkable: when switching TX on/off, I could hear the first step-up = transformer clicking (it's a 58mm 3C85 core) is this usual??? The transmitter used is my little testbox with an additional amplifier = with IRFP360 running at around 12-14V, 6-9Amp. Mal has heard me before with this transmitter connected to a 15m spiral = toploaded vertical.......... 73 Dick, PA4VHF (JO32eg) ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6BE56.F27D4A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dick =
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests

 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dick =
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: PA4VHF small backyard tests

Well, changed the antenna and fired up = my little=20 teststation this afternoon in my backyard.
 
Antenna: 3 wires 7.5m long spaced 40cm = each ,=20 vertical part about 6m long also 3 parallel wires spaced 40cm = each.
Feed is about 2m from the far = end.
 
Measured about 170pF and 60 Ohm (?) = with bridge,=20 noisesource/136kHz oscillator and RX.
 
With variometer and loading coil = connected, I=20 needed about 6,7mH to tune things, where I expected to find =
around 8,0mH.
 
Somewhere I got around 30-40pF extra. = Maybe=20 internal capacity of the loading coils???
 
With 100Watt DC-input I got about 200mA = antenna=20 current sofar.
 
Remarkable: when switching TX on/off, I = could hear=20 the first step-up transformer clicking (it's a 58mm 3C85 = core)
is this usual???
 
The transmitter used is my little = testbox with an=20 additional amplifier with IRFP360 running at around 12-14V, = 6-9Amp.
Mal has heard me before with this = transmitter=20 connected to a 15m spiral toploaded vertical..........
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF = (JO32eg)
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6BE56.F27D4A40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211496307646134498 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a3d966a58b4461e79b64d8a1303afba0b824cc4e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs141829qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr4742454nfv; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si5340561nfc.2006.08.12.01.55.11; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBpA7-0003pY-DH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBpA6-0003pP-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:06 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBpA2-0006eq-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:06 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.151]) by bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:47:55 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:47:55 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.75.239 by BAY118-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:47:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.75.239] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:47:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0029.3000 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:47:51 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2006 08:47:55.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[010CB7A0:01C6BDEC] X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.777,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Re: Sat night Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4728 I'm still awake Laurence. Mike WE0H WD2XGI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" To: Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:39 AM Subject: LF: Sat night Ill be watching the European window 136.320 dot30slow (Window is +-4Hz) at around Eu dusk until my dawn (say 2330z) - last night dcf39 tones woke me up they were so (relatively)loud. QRN is light at the moment here at 1630 local which is a good sign. Ill also be looking for USA/Canada West coast if anyone is on at my dusk tonight (they all should be sleeping now!) Good luck - Laurence, still in Singapore... OJ11 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211201444633707297 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4293b546175151ecc78e293ce3c74de2703fc487 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs35438qbh; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr1096707nfg; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si1602716nfc.2006.08.08.19.48.29; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAe1f-0002in-Be for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:42:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAe1e-0002ie-P6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:42:30 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.93]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GAe1a-0004R4-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:42:30 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W8 ([207.46.11.171]) by bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:42:19 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.120] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "lowfer@lwca.org" ; "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:42:19 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2006 02:42:19.0897 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F389690:01C6BB5D] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.185,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e86961ca-791f-43d0-b2fc-bf6024687d3f_" Subject: LF: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4729 --_e86961ca-791f-43d0-b2fc-bf6024687d3f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its Singapore's national day (41 years on 9th Aug) and we have had natural = fireworks here as well as man made, so I took the lightning aiming point of= f the top of the hotel roof until the bad weather passes. The vertical is s= ome 20ft above the highest lightning rod and I cant afford the law suit. A= s well as that LF is poorer than off late and Ive lost some of my longer ra= nge ndb markers - =20 Scott - I have a birdie on 133.1 Khz or so, warbles away most of the time = but I dont think its that Canadian - suspect some controller somewhere here= . =20 =20 Managed to get all the bits for the PAORDT Mini-whip here including the 2N= 5106's, but again I had to go to all the components shops at the Mecca for = all radio hams the Sim Lim area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing = (1.5 sing to 1 usd) =20 73 Laurence OJ11 (we get a day off work) _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_e86961ca-791f-43d0-b2fc-bf6024687d3f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Its Singapore's national day (41 years on 9th Aug) and we have had na= tural fireworks here as well as man made, so I took the lightning aiming po= int off the top of the hotel roof until the bad weather passes. The vertica= l is some 20ft above the highest lightning rod and I cant afford the law su= it.  As well as that LF is poorer than off late and Ive lost some of m= y longer range ndb markers -
 
Scott - I have a birdie on 133.1 Khz  or so, warbles away most of the = time but I dont think its that Canadian - suspect some controller some= where here.  
 
Managed to get all the bits for the PAORDT  Mini-whip here includ= ing the 2N5106's, but again I had to go to all the components shops at the = Mecca for all radio hams the Sim Lim area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310= 50 cents sing  (1.5 sing to 1 usd)
 
73
Laurence OJ11
(we get a day off work)


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It's free!=0A= = --_e86961ca-791f-43d0-b2fc-bf6024687d3f_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211626682834989707 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2eb96998ab0823ea2a49efa6b585531d34303de5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs179194qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr433711nfj; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si6962169nfb.2006.08.13.12.27.27; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCLZe-0005Yn-Fd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:24:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCLZd-0005Ye-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:24:38 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCLZZ-0000rK-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:24:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 8201 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2006 19:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.44.213 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2006 19:24:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c6bf0e$1786dec0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:23:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.844 Subject: LF: Re: qrss60 tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4730 Hi Gary I can see you here on spectran running on the full band but you are not audible in the Spectran 300 Hz filter which is odd. I was sure you used to audible here when you were transmitting, Ah you are just audible, but right on the edge. You only look to be about 5dB above the noise here, but it is not fully dark yet. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Sent: 13 August 2006 19:53 Subject: LF: qrss60 tonite > Hi All, > > Just started transmission 136.3195khz qrss60 375 watts. > > Reports welcome. > > Gary - G4WGT. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211569485208317515 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9e42e3343b07dedf528c86deec243fc07bfbda30 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs162359qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr5581513nfi; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si376371nfa.2006.08.12.21.18.19; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GC7JN-0001jn-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:10:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GC7JN-0001je-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:10:53 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.86]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GC7JI-0005m7-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:10:53 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W7 ([207.46.11.170]) by bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:10:40 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.118] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:10:40 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2006 04:10:40.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[705A2FF0:01C6BE8E] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.153,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5fbefb21-3d96-4c8e-b9f4-a7b470a2f2ea_" Subject: LF: Overnight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4731 --_5fbefb21-3d96-4c8e-b9f4-a7b470a2f2ea_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for those who put up signals - I had weak traces in a couple of favo= red spots but noting Id'able. DCF39 was CW audible for about an hour or mor= e around 0400-0530 local around 20-2130Z - the opening is small but looks m= ore than tenable. Ill be listening and putting up the "slinger" on http://k= l1x.com Argo 1 tonight, thats Sunday night dusk/early evening in Europe/A= sia - Im still without a path to East and Central USA, but West Coast still= looks ok. =20 HF still sounds pretty poor here at the moment =20 Laurence OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_5fbefb21-3d96-4c8e-b9f4-a7b470a2f2ea_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Thanks for those who put up signals - I had weak traces in a couple o= f favored spots but noting Id'able. DCF39 was CW audible for about an hour = or more around 0400-0530 local around 20-2130Z - the opening is small= but looks more than tenable. Ill be listening and putting up the "slinger"= on http://kl1x.com  Argo 1 tonight, t= hats Sunday night dusk/early evening in  Europe/Asia - Im still withou= t a path to East and Central USA, but West Coast still looks ok.
 
HF still sounds pretty poor here at the moment
 
Laurence OJ11


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It's free!=0A= = --_5fbefb21-3d96-4c8e-b9f4-a7b470a2f2ea_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212973348422083204 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: acfa7065472680af5d94e07a64d1597b70f3120a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs608234qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr9174638nfl; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si9544576nfe.2006.08.28.09.12.08; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjbq-00006y-Hw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:05:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjbq-00006o-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:05:10 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHjbl-0006Fz-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:05:09 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93C903C0008A for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:04:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from youry0mkaz8jaq (user-544048bb.wfd75b.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.64.72.187]) by mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 569E13C00089 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:04:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060828160449354.569E13C00089@mwinf3212.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <007101c6cabb$b06d3540$8a9a4354@youry0mkaz8jaq> From: "Martin Evans" To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:04:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.993,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4733 EFW TEST G3XIZ. > > Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand > the abreviation?? > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. 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Martin GW3UCJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210635278042787950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 58570c57a65098581eb03cbd48e9846b245eaf62 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs88183qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr2886673nfl; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si60851nfc.2006.08.02.14.03.00; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Not-0005rW-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:59:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Nos-0005rN-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:59:58 +0100 Received: from web25406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8Noo-00030L-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:59:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 96576 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 20:59:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jBh2Il4zSpiTBPWbyZyNO+MYKxR59zcKvR1DSVob07KIhzSaqKEZHr0DZkYYJcm6a/hoHmud7gU25WVaiqoNhgZP3hPX9hMkso7cSp9BKoh9cmPbthQS1yhNslPHvQR50OMNw+GXGU4EBsG2Ql08caKXD3mmT1w/wotbpaF/Fps= ; Message-ID: <20060802205949.96574.qmail@web25406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:59:49 BST Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:59:49 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.438,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-709781674-1154552389=:94449" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4734 --0-709781674-1154552389=:94449 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gary - I've got a Yaesu FT847 - it covers all bands top band to 70cms but it is both deaf and low power on 4m. There is a simple mod listed on the web for increasing the output power (actually the problem is very low efficiency - only 10 watts for 17 amps dc !! - the mod is supposed to increase the efficiency). I believe the poor Rx sensistivity is due to routing the 4m sigs via the 6m filters. Some folk use a pre-amp. The Rx is also deaf at 136 kHz !! I think I've got the website listed somewhere - I'll dig it out if you want to take the idea further. 73 Brian - G3YKB Gary - G4WGT wrote: Hi All, Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be modded to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. 73 Gary - G4WGT --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. --0-709781674-1154552389=:94449 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Gary -
 
I've got a Yaesu FT847 - it covers all bands top band to 70cms but it is both deaf and low power on 4m. There is a simple mod listed on the web for increasing the output power (actually the problem is very low efficiency - only 10 watts for 17 amps dc !! - the mod is supposed to increase the efficiency). I believe the poor Rx sensistivity is due to routing the 4m sigs via the 6m filters. Some folk use a pre-amp. The Rx is also deaf at 136 kHz !! 
 
I think I've got the website listed somewhere - I'll dig it out if you want to take the idea further.
 
73 Brian - G3YKB
 


Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,

Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone
knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be modded
to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band.

73

Gary - G4WGT




The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. --0-709781674-1154552389=:94449-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210635278042787950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9058dbd21ac0a53ecc4d68eac7197569e9bd16bb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs88178qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.11 with SMTP id v11mr2900381nfj; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si58656nfc.2006.08.02.14.02.50; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Npz-0005tU-96 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:01:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Npy-0005tK-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8Npu-0004za-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:01:06 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.323.96e1934 (62976) for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:00:53 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <323.96e1934.32026c85@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:00:53 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.937,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1154552453" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4735 -------------------------------1154552453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/08/2006 20:46:55 GMT Standard Time, g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes: Hi All, Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be modded to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. 73 Gary - G4WGT I believe the FT847 after being modified for wideband operation will work on 70MHz. However you will not get full power on that band. A call to Martin Lynch will get the details. Regards David -------------------------------1154552453 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 02/08/2006 20:46:55 GMT Standard Time,=20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi=20 All,

Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment=20= if=20 anyone
knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or c= an=20 be modded
to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band.

73

Gary -=20 G4WGT
I believe the FT847 after being modified for wideband operation will wo= rk=20 on 70MHz.  However you will not get full power on that band.  A ca= ll=20 to Martin Lynch will get the details.
 
Regards
 
David
-------------------------------1154552453-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210635278042787950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cc651368ba27c69ed196b160ee8cda276053f164 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs87883qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr2884561nfi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si47909nfc.2006.08.02.13.49.30; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Nbs-0005gx-3f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:46:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Nbr-0005go-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:46:31 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8Nbm-0002u3-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:46:31 +0100 Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.105.57]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2006 21:45:54 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAHGr0ESKTSw Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.57]:2126 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G8NbE-0002zw-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:45:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:46:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.214,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4736 Hi All, Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be modded to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. 73 Gary - G4WGT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212299839273414159 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c811f4e9f2433b92a9fde9639b591885958e6b4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs151164qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr7313359nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si54393nfc.2006.08.20.22.46.59; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GF2Xv-0005wJ-Q1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:41:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GF2Xv-0005wA-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:41:59 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GF2Xs-0008Rs-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:41:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 3863 invoked by uid 0); 21 Aug 2006 05:41:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.91]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 21 Aug 2006 05:41:48 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c6c4e3$d5ec6ee0$5bbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:36:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.119,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C4F4.8058B7C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4738 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C4F4.8058B7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, after the very sucsessfull atempts to run QRSS ths weekend, I want to = further upgrade the station for these modes. Therefore I'm looking for a programm that is able to transmit and decode = QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff'=20 (DFCW output can be a +5V or something) So, it will make the QRSS/DFCW signal while TX-ing, and when switch to = RX, it will show the incoming signals. One programm on one computer to send and receive. It has to run under windows 95. 73 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C4F4.8058B7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
after the very sucsessfull atempts to = run QRSS ths=20 weekend, I want to further upgrade the station
for these modes.
Therefore I'm looking for a programm = that is able=20 to transmit and decode QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff'=20
(DFCW output can be a +5V or=20 something)
 
So, it will make the QRSS/DFCW signal = while TX-ing,=20 and when switch to RX, it will show the incoming signals.
One programm on one computer to send = and=20 receive.
 
It has to run under windows = 95.
 
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C4F4.8058B7C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211365370233977770 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0b083f6cae0a48ffd4ff4bc59b6c2922d503d051 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs96686qbh; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr3331316nfi; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si4008908nfa.2006.08.10.15.13.47; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBIfr-0005c7-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:06:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBIfr-0005by-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:06:43 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBIfn-0007mf-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:06:43 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GBIfh-0001a4-01; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:06:33 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bKJFDuZJYeHWq7UmHSXVtWFZ0ggNugrfj9njjMbfgltdy4i7VUjT8F@[84.133.88.80]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GBIfX-1cpiuO0; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:06:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:06:23 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1994281005.20060811000623@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bKJFDuZJYeHWq7UmHSXVtWFZ0ggNugrfj9njjMbfgltdy4i7VUjT8F X-TOI-MSGID: bd786a0e-b572-4473-83cb-080978d0beb3 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.791 Subject: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4739 UA4WPF was just calling on 137.77686 in QRSS10. Only "M" copy here as antenna was beaming at 330 degrees. Traces are visible on Markus Grabber. 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211844181389056444 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9c644afbf07a407fb15b12f47ade34fb0ac0b235 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs276441qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr233606nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si2958726nfc.2006.08.15.22.04.30; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDDWp-0000cb-6g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:01:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDDWo-0000cS-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:01:18 +0100 Received: from bay118-dav11.bay118.hotmail.com ([207.46.8.149] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDDWi-0007ED-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:01:18 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:01:05 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.75.239 by BAY118-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 05:01:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.75.239] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: References: <008501c6c0c5$013b6d80$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:01:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0029.3000 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:01:05 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2006 05:01:05.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAC534F0:01C6C0F0] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.719,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Re: QRSS tx software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4748 3.17 will run on the slowest of old computers which makes it very useful. Good software!!! Mike WE0H ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: LFers, > > I'm using QRSS version 3.17 on a 486 laptop running Windows > for Workgroups 3.11 and it's working just fine. I've also tried it > on my older desktop running Win 98 with good results as well. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210998468449784661 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 523a616bd1be28bc87e98e794ea3c822228bbb16 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191980qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr1337371nfj; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si5168174nfb.2006.08.06.14.02.15; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pjH-00039w-8w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:00:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pjG-00039n-TM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:00:10 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9pjD-0003zv-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:00:10 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2006 21:59:59 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAODz1USKXg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:3052 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9pj5-0003ql-PC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:59:59 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <002501c6b999$d7ee6ea0$0300a8c0@lark> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.102,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: KL1X Grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4750 Hi Alan, I've watched intermittently tonight & the time has not changed for a couple of hours. You will by now have seen my previous mail ref PA fail. Ah well! 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 06 August 2006 21:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: KL1X Grabber Hi Gary its well after dawn there now but his Argo clock looks a bit off (even allowing for US format) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Sent: 06 August 2006 21:23 Subject: LF: KL1X Grabber > Looks like Laurence is not staying up tonight (morning in Singapore) as the > grabber is not running. > > Gary - G4WGT > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211060023432499346 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 93252e91129a6e5409008b20b1c82a188046b9ac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs208591qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr8353699nfi; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si2690527nfe.2006.08.07.06.20.39; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GA4wt-0008Ra-SU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:15:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GA4wt-0008RR-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:15:15 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.104]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GA4wp-0003ok-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:15:15 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W16 ([207.46.11.179]) by bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:15:04 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 05:15:04 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2006 13:15:04.0457 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F093790:01C6BA23] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.238,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1e7f5035-8478-4e83-b885-66e1340e22c2_" Subject: LF: Time X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4751 --_1e7f5035-8478-4e83-b885-66e1340e22c2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show GMT - Looking again = tonight on 136.320 KHz +-4Hz dot30slow =20 Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce its smpsu noise by replacing it with a d= ifferent non dell 12v device and its reduced the noise a lot (ie less than = s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now can I do the same thing with these pesky = tstorms peaking 10 over. =20 Laurence Oh JAy won won SIngapore GMT +8 http://kl1x.com _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_1e7f5035-8478-4e83-b885-66e1340e22c2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show GMT - Looking = again tonight on 136.320  KHz +-4Hz  dot30slow
 
Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce its smpsu noise by replacing it with a d= ifferent non dell 12v device and its reduced the noise a lot (ie less than = s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now can I do the same thing with these pesky = tstorms peaking 10 over.
 
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It's free! = It's free!=0A= = --_1e7f5035-8478-4e83-b885-66e1340e22c2_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210960411595076841 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ebfa6118a8048ed09bc6aa0e28aeea9a4e9da669 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs184589qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr119106nfh; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si4668965nfc.2006.08.06.03.57.20; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9gHJ-0008I6-RX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:54:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9gHJ-0008Hx-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:54:41 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9gHG-0007sg-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:54:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 71326 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2006 10:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.201.80 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2006 10:54:32 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:55:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <44D5C62F.7090209@online.fr> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.554,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4752 Many thanks, Jean-Pierre! No QRN this morning! I'm running my usual 200W output/1,4A RF to a 20m long "Tee" at 6m height. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (Near Windsor, S.E. England) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre M�r� Sent: 06 August 2006 11:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: QRSS3 Hi all on the list ! This morning good copy G3WCB and G3XDV 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210931902941396393 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8225ed9d300f4584c6c507592105fcf3fd693978 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs176994qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr729919nfj; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4326542nfe.2006.08.05.20.34.58; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZNk-0005Rl-9n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:32:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZNj-0005Rc-GP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:32:51 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9ZNf-0004mH-2X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:32:51 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi88.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.93]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8341CB745D for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003001c6b908$fad6dce0$5d11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:32:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.665,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Singapore Ops Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C6B8CE.4D7C3FC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4754 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C6B8CE.4D7C3FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > where is VY1 (name escapes me) operating at the moment freq wise?=20 VY1JA has been at 137.7784 if memory serves correct. He is only at 100W = but has a huge antenna which seems to be working very well. I can hear = him on CW here at over 1000 miles, in mid-summer! >Ill get those offsets. This is a new R75 I picked up here and was only = 0.5Hz off my previous rx's cal. I used DCF39 as a marker to cal against. I'm sure you will never regret buying the R75. It is truly a bargain for = the price, with excellent LF performance right out of the box. =20 Steve ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C6B8CE.4D7C3FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> where is VY1 (name escapes me) = operating=20 at the moment freq wise?
 
VY1JA has been at 137.7784 if memory serves = correct. He is=20 only at 100W but has a huge antenna which seems to be working very well. = I can=20 hear him on CW here at over 1000 miles, in mid-summer!
 
 
>Ill get those offsets. This is a new R75 I picked up here and = was only=20 0.5Hz off my previous rx's cal. I used DCF39 as a marker to cal = against.
 
I'm sure you will never regret buying the R75. = It is truly=20 a bargain for the price, with excellent LF performance right out of the=20 box.
 
Steve
 




 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C6B8CE.4D7C3FC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210931902941396393 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bc68ff308f7fbd8f1f9c856b5000bc1dfad9892e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs176936qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr727632nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si4352915nfb.2006.08.05.20.29.29; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZHB-0005Jn-3N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:26:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZHA-0005Je-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:26:04 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s1.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9ZH6-0005aK-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:26:04 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W20 ([207.46.11.183]) by bay0-omc1-s1.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:25:33 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Steve McDonald" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:25:33 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 03:25:33.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9BA3EC0:01C6B907] X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.088,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_64c72d9a-95ba-486c-ae23-565d3323d0f5_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: Singapore Ops X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4755 --_64c72d9a-95ba-486c-ae23-565d3323d0f5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Steve - I dont want to cause a "smoky event" but it would be good to try= - Ill leave the rx on your freq at my dusk for a couple of hours - and Ill= run the grabber on the web site too -- where is VY1 (name escapes me) oper= ating at the moment freq wise?=20 =20 Ill get those offsets. This is a new R75 I picked up here and was only 0.5H= z off my previous rx's cal. I used DCF39 as a marker to cal against. =20 Nursing an undeserved hangover felling this morning... =20 Laurence From: jsm@gulfislands.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 5 Aug 2= 006 20:19:44 -0700Subject: LF: Re: Singapore Ops=20 =20 Laurence - I may be able to spark up in the predawn hours (1000- 1300 Z) if= Scott is not running schedules with VY1JA and I don't have any 2m meteor s= catter schedules in the morning. It is so darn dry here on the island, an a= ntenna flash-over would burn the whole thing down.=20 =20 If I am on, I will be around 137.7552 ish, likely at QRSS 60, but I am real= ly fearful of the dry forest at the moment...I can see the headlines now...= "CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE...when taken away he was mumbling incoherently a= bout contacting 'Shanghai grabber', no doubt a nearby accomplice..." =20 Steve / VE7SL _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_64c72d9a-95ba-486c-ae23-565d3323d0f5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Ok Steve - I dont want to cause a "smoky event" but it would be good = to try - Ill leave the rx on your freq at my dusk for a couple of hours - a= nd Ill run the grabber on the web site too -- where is VY1 (name escapes me= ) operating at the moment freq wise?
 
Ill get those offsets. This is a new R75 I picked up here and was only 0.5H= z off my previous rx's cal. I used DCF39 as a marker to cal against.
 
Nursing an undeserved hangover felling this morning...
 
Laurence






From: jsm@gulfislands.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:19:44 -0700
Subject: LF: Re: Singapore Ops

 
Laurence - I may be able to spark up in the predawn= hours (1000- 1300 Z) if Scott is not running schedules with VY1JA and= I don't have any 2m meteor scatter schedules in the morning. It is so darn= dry here on the island, an antenna flash-over would burn the whole th= ing down.
 
If I am on, I will be around 137.7552 ish, likely a= t QRSS 60, but I am really fearful of the dry forest at the moment...I can = see the headlines now..."CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE...when taken away he was= mumbling incoherently about contacting 'Shanghai grabber', no do= ubt a nearby accomplice..."
 
Steve / VE7SL


= Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messenger!=0A= = --_64c72d9a-95ba-486c-ae23-565d3323d0f5_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210931902941396393 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c5d89c1b5fd2bddab2f9bcfac3ca494bbdf81fd5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs176882qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr727210nff; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4318075nfe.2006.08.05.20.24.14; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZBC-0003tR-40 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:19:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ZBB-0003tI-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:19:53 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9ZB8-0007k4-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:19:53 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi88.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.93]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D1963B7067 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002101c6b907$2b8fecc0$5d11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:19:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.962,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Singapore Ops Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B8CC.7DC772A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4756 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B8CC.7DC772A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence - I may be able to spark up in the predawn hours (1000- 1300 Z) = if Scott is not running schedules with VY1JA and I don't have any 2m = meteor scatter schedules in the morning. It is so darn dry here on the = island, an antenna flash-over would burn the whole thing down.=20 If I am on, I will be around 137.7552 ish, likely at QRSS 60, but I am = really fearful of the dry forest at the moment...I can see the headlines = now..."CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE...when taken away he was mumbling = incoherently about contacting 'Shanghai grabber', no doubt a nearby = accomplice..." Steve / VE7SL ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B8CC.7DC772A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Laurence - I may be able to spark up in the = predawn hours=20 (1000- 1300 Z) if Scott is not running schedules with VY1JA and I = don't=20 have any 2m meteor scatter schedules in the morning. It is so darn dry = here on=20 the island, an antenna flash-over would burn the whole thing down.=20
 
If I am on, I will be around 137.7552 ish, = likely at QRSS=20 60, but I am really fearful of the dry forest at the moment...I can see = the=20 headlines now..."CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE...when taken away he was=20 mumbling incoherently about contacting 'Shanghai grabber', no = doubt a=20 nearby accomplice..."
 
Steve / VE7SL
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B8CC.7DC772A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211543729960821069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 206c74e5a5ee0e0eee17c93db293877792e546f8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs155658qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5333729nfi; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si6894504nfc.2006.08.12.14.28.57; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GC0yd-00079J-5w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GC0yc-00079A-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:02 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC0yY-0002gl-Ld for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 73879 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2006 21:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.38.196 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2006 21:23:52 -0000 Message-ID: <004c01c6be55$9b1e7540$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003901c6be46$2f6871c0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> <001401c6be49$6d97e900$0300a8c0@lark> <007001c6be4a$05f2e6a0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:23:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.585 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4758 Hi Dick, what kind of meter?? If its a thermoameter it is probably OK if it indicates anything and these can be tested with DC. If its a toroid current transformer version then it may depend where it is mounted, dont put it too close to the loading coil. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 12 August 2006 21:00 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests > maybe my antennacurrent meter is not ok....... > > I got 6mA with just an oscillator...... > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211722124465510942 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 886ccbf96dacaac54a5ad7e97b8b0f052dd049ef Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs219002qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr388845nfi; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si523569nfa.2006.08.14.15.11.01; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCkaW-00056Y-SJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:07:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCkaW-00056P-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:07:12 +0100 Received: from fish4.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.140.6]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCkaS-00083r-60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:07:12 +0100 Received: from server (unknown [10.105.128.83]) by fish4.hurontel.on.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id C39B6E6C60 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001201c6bfe5$eb2c41c0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <001401c6bfcc$56290400$75be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:09:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at hurontel.on.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.657 Subject: LF: Re: antenna current meter troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4761 Hi Dick, LFers, Coils wound on toroid cores are supposedly self shielded due to the geometry of the core, but I think that you'd want more than 4 inches of spacing from your loading coil. Since there's no difference in measuring the "antenna system" current in the ground lead or the antenna lead, place your transformer core over the ground lead. That way, it's not exposed to high R.F. voltages, as it would be if on the antenna lead, but also it will let you place it close to the ground/earth rod, well away from the R.F. field of the loading coil. Locate the burden resistor right at the toroid, then use twin shielded lead to the rest of ammeter circuit which can be located a distance away. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211722124465510942 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb53b2b28aa0b0e543b50b1ce1902bd85306e605 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs216329qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr324681nfl; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si409798nfb.2006.08.14.13.44.27; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCjEu-0004XJ-BJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:40:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCjEt-0004XA-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:40:47 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCjEq-0000XV-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:40:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 45302 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2006 20:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.85.246 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2006 20:40:38 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c6bfe1$e657d320$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c6bfcc$56290400$75be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.542 Subject: LF: Re: antenna current meter troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4762 Hi Dick I am not sure what the mechanism is. Jim seems to think it is RF getting into the diode and meter circuitry of the secondary, but I am not sure. I have not had enough power to experiment with this, and compare with a thermoammeter. You might try sticking the meter at the bottom of the coil to ground the same current should flow there. Otherwise assumings its a magnetic effect on the ferrite.....what about 2 coil diameters away at least ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 14 August 2006 19:05 Subject: LF: antenna current meter troubles Well it seems very likely that my antennacurrent meter is not working as it should be. The ringcore is likely much too close to the main loading coil. It's less than 10cm (4 inch) away from the coil. I have to make a new external meter that can be placed away from the loading coil. Anyone with experience about minimum distance between loading coil and antennacurrent meter, and how about shielding the antennacurrent pick-up core with a metal (not grounded!) screen? 73 Dick From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211788435037327524 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 40fe2b4f189ee829d011638894608922999674a0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs246001qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr1401263nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si1887679nfc.2006.08.15.07.18.26; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCzi9-00021o-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:16:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCzi8-00021f-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:16:04 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCzi4-0003Ue-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:16:04 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by mwinf6001.orange.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 65B461C00098 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:15:54 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060815141554416.65B461C00098@mwinf6001.orange.nl From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:15:48 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.052,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C086.121933B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4765 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C086.121933B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Laurence I will be transmitting at 136321.0 Hz QRSS60 this night,hopefully you see some traces, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Laurence KL1X Verzonden: dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 16:00 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: last night Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow so last night for LF listening - conditions were very good to Eu yesterday after Eu dusk with strong sigs from dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no one seemed to be on... Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 +- 4 at Eu dusk - I missed West coast US this evening cos of work. Laurence in 9v1 Singapore slinger running on argo 1 http://kl1.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C086.121933B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Laurence
 
I will be=20 transmitting at 136321.0 Hz QRSS60 this night,hopefully you see some=20 traces,
 
73
Victor PA3FNY=20 JO22NC
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Laurence=20 KL1X
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 = 16:00
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: last=20 night

Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow = so last=20 night for LF listening - conditions were very good to Eu yesterday = after Eu=20 dusk with strong sigs from dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no = one=20 seemed to be on...
 
Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 = +- 4 at=20 Eu dusk - I missed West coast US this evening cos of=20 work.
 
Laurence in 9v1
Singapore slinger running on = argo 1 http://kl1.com
 


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more.=20 It's free! It's free!
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C086.121933B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211006631651350967 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 809e8a9178e798770080420a00fda8cfd430d766 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs193220qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr7733740nfi; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si5242659nfc.2006.08.06.16.12.00; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9rkM-0003zW-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:09:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9rkM-0003zN-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:09:26 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s30.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.102]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9rkI-0004bp-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:09:26 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W4 ([207.46.11.167]) by bay0-omc1-s30.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:08:55 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.26] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Alan Melia" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 15:08:55 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 23:08:55.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A1D1AE0:01C6B9AD] X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.059,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3bcdfa55-de9a-4d8d-b6e7-cfd3d79623e2_" Subject: LF: AC'd X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4766 --_3bcdfa55-de9a-4d8d-b6e7-cfd3d79623e2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All - I woke up at 0630 local (yawns) confident that the rx system would be= hunky dory, but the PC had shut down (certain mutterings made) - I correct= ed the issue and started looking again. DCF39 was still audible but weak. S= unrise is in a few mins after 07.00am, thats 2300z. As Jim says a lot bett= er for Europe sleep wise and me too... GAry sorry to hear about the FETS.=20 Tonight,thats Europe/Asia Monday night will be the last chance from here be= fore I have to exit stage right. So Ill run my overnight again centered 136= .320 Another Motto - double triple check all connections especially dodgy AC pow= er plug adaptors.. =20 Laurence Oh Jay won won. > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: = Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:49:36 +0100> Subject: LF: Re: KL1X Grabber> > Hi Gary it= s well after dawn there now but his Argo clock looks a bit off> (even allow= ing for US format)> Alan G3NYK> > ----- Original Message -----> From: Gary = - G4WGT > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Sent: 06 August 2006 21:23> Subject: LF: KL1X Grabber> > > > Loo= ks like Laurence is not staying up tonight (morning in Singapore) as> the> = > grabber is not running.> >> > Gary - G4WGT> >> >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_3bcdfa55-de9a-4d8d-b6e7-cfd3d79623e2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= All - I woke up at 0630 local (yawns) confident that the rx system wo= uld be hunky dory, but the PC had shut down (certain mutterings made) - I c= orrected the issue and started looking again. DCF39 was still audible&= nbsp;but weak. Sunrise is in a few mins  after 07.00am, thats 23= 00z. As Jim says a lot better for Europe sleep wise and me too... GAry sorry to hear about the FETS. 
Tonight,thats Europe/Asia Monday night will be the last chance from here&nb= sp;before I have to exit stage right. So Ill run my overnight again ce= ntered 136.320

Another Motto - double triple check all connections especially dodgy AC pow= er plug adaptors..
 
Laurence
Oh Jay won won.






> From: alan.melia@btinternet.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:49:36 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: KL= 1X Grabber
>
> Hi Gary its well after = ;dawn there now but his Argo clock looks=  a bit off
> (even allowing for US = ;format)
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original = Message -----
> From: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt= @tiscali.co.uk>
> To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) = <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: 06 August = ;2006 21:23
> Subject: LF: KL1X Grabber
> <= BR>>
> > Looks like Laurence is not&n= bsp;staying up tonight (morning in Singapore) = ;as
> the
> > grabber is not running.> >
> > Gary - G4WGT
> >
> >



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Windows Live M= essenger!=0A= = --_3bcdfa55-de9a-4d8d-b6e7-cfd3d79623e2_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212067181253479439 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb1f2f4f13489e3c0c4e060f18e306a59de7fc32 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs28901qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr4280895nfe; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si1002131nfc.2006.08.18.09.08.59; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6oB-0005dE-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE6o9-0005cw-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout0162.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.162] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GE6o5-0006nm-M9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:53 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.66) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF90031498A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:02:40 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c6c2df$bb3276e0$42e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:01:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.021 Subject: LF: PA0SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4768 PA0SE is blowing my head off on 137.7 khz testing qrs. Try cw and we can have a qso. 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210780113265984600 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: af073fb8487754db74466540bb097ff33815f1f8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs137468qbh; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr5377245nfv; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si2558396nfc.2006.08.04.07.55.50; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G911l-0005Eu-Fi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G911k-0005El-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G911g-0005bj-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 13728 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2006 14:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.18]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 4 Aug 2006 14:51:40 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c6b7d5$130130c0$46be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <8bf118410608040224x54123552x85a76d96721aadca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:46:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.708,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: news photos etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C6B7E5.8A9EE220" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4771 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C6B7E5.8A9EE220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, and others, Look at www.pa6z.nl , there is a complete photo collection of the = construction of my LF station, as well as some pictures from field = operation. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave Pick=20 To: LF Group ; lowfer@lwca.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: LF: news photos etc Dear all It's getting near the deadline for the next Radcom LF column and as = it's the middle of the fallow summer period I could do with some news of = your experiments, pictures etc. Anything LF related. Thanks.=20 Dave. --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C6B7E5.8A9EE220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Dave, and others,
 
Look at www.pa6z.nl , there is a complete photo = collection=20 of the construction of my LF station, as well as some pictures from = field=20 operation.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave=20 Pick
To: LF Group ; lowfer@lwca.org
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 = 11:24=20 AM
Subject: LF: news photos = etc

Dear all

It's getting near the deadline for the = next=20 Radcom LF column and as it's the middle of the fallow summer period I = could do=20 with some news of your experiments, pictures etc.
Anything LF=20 related.

Thanks.
Dave.

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Weazle McCreath" To: References: <8bf118410608040224x54123552x85a76d96721aadca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:08:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at hurontel.on.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.671 Subject: LF: Re: news photos etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4772 Hello Dave, Would you like a pix of my new combination loading coil/variometer? 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Give me your e-mail address so I can send the pix directly to you rather than via the reflector. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210623811336678972 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 94c070987eb4ce878703966f6789d526372d9f9d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs82597qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr2585405nfi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si195104nfc.2006.08.02.10.47.14; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8KkG-0004el-H0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:43:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8KkG-0004ec-4X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:43:00 +0100 Received: from amsfep19-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.16] helo=amsfep17-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8KkD-0001Om-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:43:00 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.191]) by amsfep17-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060802174249.IOPV1603.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN>; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:42:49 +0200 Message-ID: <003201c6b65b$13034b60$bf423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: Cc: "Dan van der Wagt PA0AKN" , "Hans v.d Pennen PA3GXB" References: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:42:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.488,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: International light house weekend Content-Type: text/plain; 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pa0akn@amsat.org From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210918548198788850 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2f333b466e9991d289cdb53f8b9422d7ec3a672e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs175017qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr5750986nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4171752nfc.2006.08.05.16.51.57; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9Vt5-00030X-Fa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:48:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9Vt4-00030O-G6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:48:58 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s13.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9Vsz-0004Cm-Lp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:48:58 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W12 ([207.46.11.175]) by bay0-omc1-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:48:47 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "James Moritz" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:48:47 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2006 23:48:47.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1B68F20:01C6B8E9] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.014,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4d1f9219-97f4-40c5-a46c-7ad801653f11_" Subject: LF: Singapore Ops X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4774 --_4d1f9219-97f4-40c5-a46c-7ad801653f11_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim/Gary - thanks for the signals - I shut down the rx at 0729 Local after = sunrise and hidden the aerial till dusk tonight.=20 I looked thru the captures and only have one UNID short very weak line of i= nterest but nothing tangible, if thats the word. =20 Unfortunately we dont have any unlit paths to the East coast USA at this ti= me of Year but the west/Yukon/Southern Alaska coast has a grayish line for = an hour or two.=20 =20 Looks to me that the peak of dcf39 was just at Magdeburg (10,000Kms 323degT= ) dusk around 1900z or so, which is what I saw last year in Borneo - so to= night Ill have the grabber centered on the American window 137.775-781 or nominat= ed from 11.00-1310z, =20 and from 1310z till 2300z for Europe/Asia centered as tonight on 136.320 pl= us or minus two, dot 60 slow =20 With thanks - Laurence=20 OJ11 Singapore From: james.moritz@btopenworld.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat= , 5 Aug 2006 23:58:16 +0100Subject: LF: RE: Sigs Dear Laurence, LF Group, =20 M0BMU also QRV from about 2240utc - using DFCW 60, Centered on 136.3205 wit= h about 0.25Hz shift =20 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: LF: RE: Sigs Ok Laurence, =20 I will try to keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running withou= t supervision so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly about our midn= ight. =20 Gary. =20 -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 05 Augus= t 2006 21:50To: Gary - G4WGTSubject: LF: SigsOk Gary - Ill leave the grabbe= r on till I wake up - Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be= looking again tomorrow night as well - as long as we dont have tstorms as= my 8m fishing rod is the highest thing on the roof of this hotel! The Argo= window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment. CheersLau= rence OJ11Singaporehttp://www.kl1x.com =20 From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.ukTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 5 Aug 2= 006 20:48:41 +0100Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 OK Laurence, =20 I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start i= n a couple of minutes. =20 Gud Luk. =20 Gary -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 05 Augus= t 2006 20:39To: Gary - G4WGTSubject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39Name your poison Gary= - Ive not seem a line yet here... Laurence in 9v1 From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.ukTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 5 Aug 2= 006 20:34:54 +0100Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Hi Laurence, =20 I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?=20 =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 05 Augus= t 2006 20:09To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: dcf39dcf39 is cw a= udible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone fro= m europe on? Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.=20 Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messen= ger!=20 With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more.= It's free! 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Jim/Gary - thanks for the signals - I shut down the rx at 0729 Lo= cal after sunrise and hidden the aerial till dusk tonight.
I looked thru the captures and only have one UNID short very weak line of i= nterest but nothing tangible, if thats the word.
 
Unfortunately we dont have any unlit paths to the East coast USA at this ti= me of Year but the west/Yukon/Southern Alaska coast has a grayish line for = an hour or two.
 
Looks to me that the peak of dcf39 was just at Magdeburg (10,000Kms 323degT= ) dusk around 1900z or so, which is what I saw last year in Borneo -  = so tonight
Ill have the grabber centered on the American window 137.775-781 or nominat= ed  from 11.00-1310z,  
and from 1310z till 2300z for Europe/Asia centered as tonight on = 136.320 plus or minus two, dot 60 slow
 
With thanks - Laurence
OJ11 Singapore





From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:58:16 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: Sigs

Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU also QRV from about 2240utc - using DFCW 60, = Centered on 136.3205 with about 0.25Hz shift
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
= From: Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:1= 6 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Sigs

Ok Laurence,
 
I will try to keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running = without supervision so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly abo= ut our midnight.
 
Gary.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 05 Augu= st 2006 21:50
To: Gary - G4WGT
Subject: LF: Sigs
Ok Gary - Ill leave the grabber on till I wake up -
 = ;
Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be looking again tom= orrow night as well  - as long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m fishin= g rod is the highest thing on the roof of this hotel!
 
The Argo= window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment.
 =
Cheers
Laurence OJ11
Singapore
http://www.kl1x.com
 





=  

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

OK Laurence,
 
I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm.= Start in a couple of minutes.
 
Gud Luk.
 
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39
To: Gary - G4= WGT
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

Name your pois= on Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here...
 
Laurence in 9v1
<= BR>




From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi Laurence,
 
I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dcf39

dcf39= is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - an= yone from europe on?

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Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU now (2220utc) QRV on 136.3205 centre = frequency,=20 DFCW60, for the next couple of hours
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL1X
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, = 2006 10:11=20 PM
Subject: LF: Conditions

Looks like an improvement - I have DCF39 and a similar = sounding=20 adn stronger sign on 128.93, plus the time sig on 77Khz all CW=20 strength.
 
Looking 136.320Khz dot30 slow for the next = couple of=20 hours
 
Laurence OJ11
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6BC03.08744840-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936128222570870 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f3984f716dc1d3a64ba1076a2b3b45c5219d7ce Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs177621qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr7111110nfj; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si4380212nfc.2006.08.05.21.31.23; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aEE-0005hR-Lj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:27:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aED-0005hI-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:27:05 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.92]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9aE9-0004sb-7c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:27:05 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W7 ([207.46.11.170]) by bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:26:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Steve McDonald" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:26:54 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 04:26:54.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C350CA0:01C6B910] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.011,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b285fe8-1bb6-42e9-bff4-de7ebfce021a_" Subject: LF: Slings not Grabs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4777 --_1b285fe8-1bb6-42e9-bff4-de7ebfce021a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More like a Singapore Slinger! (or is that copyright?) Ive put the DCF39 g= rab on the web site -=20 =20 =20 Cheers Laurence http://www.kl1x.com =20 =20 From: jsm@gulfislands.com"CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE...when taken away he wa= s mumbling incoherently about contacting 'Shanghai grabber', no doubt a nea= rby accomplice..." =20 Steve / VE7SL _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_1b285fe8-1bb6-42e9-bff4-de7ebfce021a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= More like  a Singapore Slinger! (or is that copyright?) Ive put = the DCF39 grab on the web site -
 
 
Cheers
Laurence
http://www.kl1x.com
 
 
From: jsm@gulfislands.com
"CB-er SETS ISLAND ON FIRE.= ..when taken away he was mumbling incoherently about contacting '= Shanghai grabber', no doubt a nearby accomplice..."
 
Steve / VE7SL


= Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messenger!=0A= = --_1b285fe8-1bb6-42e9-bff4-de7ebfce021a_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212312676972482745 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5714ad4c22a8c501832978d253f14645c4c1f1b5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs158601qbh; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr7484921nfv; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si315767nfb.2006.08.21.02.11.02; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GF5iX-0007n2-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:05:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GF5iX-0007mt-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:05:09 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GF5iT-0001bV-6E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:05:09 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2006 10:04:56 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAANYT6USCeoM6DoMWgTsCAgcECgcGHQ Received: from 88-106-106-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.106.73]:2739 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GF5iJ-000GaU-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:04:55 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:05:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <000f01c6c4fe$41aafce0$1a6d7ad5@w4o8m9> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.024,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C509.640D7960" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4781 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C509.640D7960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dick & LF, Dick, I also use DL4YHF's 'Spectrum Lab' together with ON7YD's 'QRS' software running side by side & no problems, used on several PC's & operating systems. Regards es 73. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 21 August 2006 09:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Dear Dick, LF Group, For QRSS and DFCW I usually use DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab together with ON7YD's QRS - both programs can run simultaneously quite happily, with SpecLab monitoring the outgoing transmission during TX as well as receiving the incoming signals. I used these two programs on my old P133 PC with Windows 95 - I found that I2PHD's Argo spectrogram software wouldn't run on the win95 PC, although it was fine with later operating systems - not sure if that was due to the computer hardware or the operating system. Normally, the spectrogram software runs all the time, with the TX/RX switching done by QRS. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: LF: software for TX and RX QRSS/DFCW Hello all, after the very sucsessfull atempts to run QRSS ths weekend, I want to further upgrade the station for these modes. Therefore I'm looking for a programm that is able to transmit and decode QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff' ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C509.640D7960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Dick & LF,
 
Dick,=20 I also use DL4YHF's 'Spectrum Lab' together with ON7YD's 'QRS' software = running=20 side by side & no problems, used on several PC's & operating=20 systems.
 
Regards es 73.
 
Gary -=20 G4WGT.
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James=20 Moritz
Sent: 21 August 2006 09:46
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: software for TX = and RX=20 QRSS/DFCW

Dear Dick, LF Group,
 
For QRSS and DFCW I usually use = DL4YHF's Spectrum=20 Lab together with ON7YD's QRS - both programs can run simultaneously = quite=20 happily, with SpecLab monitoring the outgoing transmission during TX as = well as=20 receiving the incoming signals. I used  these two programs on my = old P133=20 PC with Windows 95 - I found that I2PHD's Argo spectrogram software = wouldn't run=20 on the win95 PC, although it was fine with later operating systems - not = sure if=20 that was due to the computer hardware or the operating system. Normally, = the=20 spectrogram software runs all the time, with the TX/RX switching done by = QRS.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 = 6:36=20 AM
Subject: LF: software for TX = and RX=20 QRSS/DFCW

Hello all,
 
after the very sucsessfull atempts to = run QRSS=20 ths weekend, I want to further upgrade the station
for these modes.
Therefore I'm looking for a programm = that is able=20 to transmit and decode QRSS/DFCW like the usual 'screenstuff' =
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C509.640D7960-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211503550982558169 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ef6b686dd9231ab6455ece11c0ed788f25616f3d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs143528qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr4960017nfj; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si2168105nfe.2006.08.12.03.50.20; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBr1Z-0004H9-5W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:47:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBr1Y-0004H0-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:47:24 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBr1V-00076d-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:47:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 86962 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2006 10:46:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.69.22 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2006 10:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c6bdfc$8ad59820$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:46:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.597 Subject: LF: Singapore on 136 ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4782 Hi all, last nights data suggests that the recent geomagnetic storm has perked up conditions. Steve W3EEE has record levels from DCF39 in North Carolina, and Laurence in Singapore was awakened by DCF39 at audible CW strength. He will only be in Singapore for a few more days and has really got the bugs out of his RX system so there is a small window for a Europe to SE Asia one-way on 136. My appreciation of the all-darkness path from the UK is that the window is from 2130 to 2330z, but signals are possible for one hour either side of these times. The window is longer from mainland Europe. 30 or 60 sec QRSS or DFCW should be possible. Check the mail for Laurence's grabber window in the vicinity of 136.320kHz or mail direct. Laurence KL1X E-mail Address(es): hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813012011232774 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 57a6c2dc3950a1566ec76606546b1ca1de845333 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs264286qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr1875417nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si1280383nfa.2006.08.15.14.00.35; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zp-0005WY-2g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zo-0005WP-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:44 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD5zk-0005Uy-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:44 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.102] (wan.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20060815205828113005sosne>; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: <44E23575.8010309@att.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:58:29 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299 Subject: Re: LF: simple QRSS software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4783 Dick wrote: > Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to TX > QRSS with a computer? > This works great: http://www.mlecmn.net/~lyle/pc-keyer/pc-keyer.htm Dex, W4DEX/WD2XKO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813012011232774 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3013b130ed65c388aacfe279aaf4a4e11f9ceb78 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs264092qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr1839214nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si2389005nfc.2006.08.15.13.55.38; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5v0-0005Ju-JX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:53:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5uz-0005Jg-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:53:45 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD5uv-0005So-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:53:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 6813 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 20:53:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 15 Aug 2006 20:53:30 -0000 Message-ID: <44E23551.10404@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:57:53 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.103 Subject: Re: LF: simple QRSS software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4784 Dick, Dick wrote: > Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to TX > QRSS with a computer? Go to Dave Pick's site: http://wireless.org.uk/software.htm and download Rik Strobbe's QRS program. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813012011232774 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 069683f39b0c733970f6a8fb09a17a61b79875e4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs263800qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr1808254nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si2383833nfc.2006.08.15.13.49.05; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5mh-0005B2-Qz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:45:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5mh-0005Aq-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:45:11 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD5md-0005Pw-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:45:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 23432 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 2006 20:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.25]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 20:43:59 -0000 Message-ID: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:38:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.511,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6C0BB.95855B40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4785 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6C0BB.95855B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to TX = QRSS with a computer? 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6C0BB.95855B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where can I find a simple, and not too = large to=20 download programm to TX QRSS with a computer?
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6C0BB.95855B40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211700934775043187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f3d3923f80bd01bb2f82bd75b5383afb0d73ce8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs205582qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr1387274nfn; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si12675992nfc.2006.08.14.08.07.39; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCdzp-0002m6-Jj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:04:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCdzp-0002lx-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:04:53 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCdzk-0005y3-Ie for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:04:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 30858 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2006 15:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.42]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Aug 2006 15:04:43 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01c6bfb2$85929d60$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <000c01c6bfaf$a801a560$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> <000701c6bfb2$121cd080$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:01:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.555,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re: Re: PA4VHF beaconing 136.30kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4786 Ok thanks for looking Alan. It seems that indeed my build in antenna current meter is not reading ok. It reads much too low...... The antenna is surrounded by houses, so defenatly not the best postition. As a matter of fact, I just put it up to be able to run full power into the loading coil system...... I'll switch off the beacon in 10 minutes or so. have to do some shopping, hi 73 Dick From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212223212968965363 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 14cc94570bdd724f8d51f481c7e39d50214955f9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs109481qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr6217867nfg; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si839496nfe.2006.08.20.02.29.03; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEja4-0002WC-Ru for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:26:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEja4-0002W3-D7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:26:56 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEja0-0003jS-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:26:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 20114 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 09:05:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 09:05:44 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c6c437$5943d1a0$58be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:58:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.396,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRSS/power etc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6C447.888864C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4788 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6C447.888864C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I increased my power around 08.30utc, and added around 1.5-1.8dB. Thus more antenna current, estimated aroyund 1.5 Amp or so. Antenna set up is far from ideal, but I am happy to see my signal spread = around. I'm very enthiousiastic and impresed by the first QRSS results, and = thinking in how to use this during the LX DXpedition later this year. Also studying the use of DFCW, and might do another modification on the = TX for this. Thanks everyone for their help in order to get this far. 73 Dick, PA4VHF-jo32eh ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6C447.888864C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I increased my power around 08.30utc, = and added=20 around 1.5-1.8dB.
Thus more antenna current, estimated = aroyund 1.5=20 Amp or so.
 
Antenna set up is far from ideal, but I = am happy to=20 see my signal spread around.
 
I'm very enthiousiastic = and impresed by the=20 first QRSS results, and thinking in how to use this
during the LX DXpedition later this=20 year.
Also studying the use of DFCW, = and might do=20 another modification on the TX for this.
 
Thanks everyone for their help in = order to get=20 this far.
 
73
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF-jo32eh 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6C447.888864C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d3fa6eb4e79b9b67efb00e9a7a43b4db9b5d4bce Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs43227qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr4544564nff; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si668238nfc.2006.08.18.14.05.38; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEBSM-0007gs-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:00:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEBSM-0007gj-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:00:42 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEBSJ-0001vP-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:00:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 93382 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2006 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.102.1?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.102.1 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2006 21:00:32 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.3/423]); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c6c308$ed528240$01668351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <44E5DC22.19166.1149C7@localhost> <001e01c6c2d9$1c233900$0300a8c0@lark> <001401c6c301$ef7bf620$2dbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:57:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.867,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4789 Dear Dick, LF Group, High frequency stability is needed for long duration QRSS beacon transmissions with 60s dots, as you might use around 136.32kHz, so I should keep the crystal oscillator for that.. But for relatively short contacts with 3s/dot QRSS, stability can be greatly relaxed - drifting around a few Hz does not usually make a big difference. For quite a long time, I used a simple LC VFO for QRSS operation, which was usually adequate. I used to monitor the TX frequency on the RX spectrogram display, and if it was drifting too much I just tweaked it back again. I'm not sure what your VXO does, but I would certainly give it a try for QRSS3. Another way of generating a reasonably stable variable frequency around 137k is to use one of the cheap 3.58MHz ceramic resonators in a "VXO" circuit, and divide by 26 to get output in the 136k band. It is possible to cover the whole LF band with one of these, and the one I tried would stay within a few Hz without difficulty. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's > Ok thanks, hmmm unfortunatly I am a bit late in discovering this, as I > already made the first part of an X-tal oscillator for 136.320kHz........ > > Well, I guess I have to start looking in my X-tal again. > Problem is how to make 137.7 (or better 137.7x2) from > an X-tal. > Of course I have nothing in my junkbox that can be divided to this > frequency, in fact > even for 136.320 I had to manually modifiy an X-tal by opening it up and > painting it. > > Anyway, meanwhile I got QRSS running! > Now I only need to built something that creates the right fixed > frequency.... > My VXO will reach it, but is not acurate enough , I guess. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0bbd71233a2090485638421b58b75a84e0ade9ac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs42036qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr4520475nfi; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si160862nfb.2006.08.18.13.39.01; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEB3e-0007Jw-Af for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEB3d-0007Jn-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:09 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEB3Z-0000Bx-Ix for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:09 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.152.47) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447F02A3006D409D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:34:59 +0200 Message-ID: <004101c6c305$7bba5660$2f9824d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <44E5DC22.19166.1149C7@localhost> <001e01c6c2d9$1c233900$0300a8c0@lark> <001401c6c301$ef7bf620$2dbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:32:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.131 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4790 2032z Good night Dick, I would be listening tomorrow. For the floor lamp, shake the pylon! :0) Good luck with the WX! 73: Jeff F6CWN (JN09tt) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's > Ok thanks, hmmm unfortunatly I am a bit late in discovering this, as I > already made the first part of an X-tal oscillator for 136.320kHz........ > > Well, I guess I have to start looking in my X-tal again. > Problem is how to make 137.7 (or better 137.7x2) from > an X-tal. > Of course I have nothing in my junkbox that can be divided to this > frequency, in fact > even for 136.320 I had to manually modifiy an X-tal by opening it up and > painting it. > > Anyway, meanwhile I got QRSS running! > Now I only need to built something that creates the right fixed > frequency.... > My VXO will reach it, but is not acurate enough , I guess. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF > > QRV tomorrow 14-15 utc in beacon mode around 136.550kHz with 8wpm. > > QRSS activety to follow soon, I hope. > Unfortunatly I can't listen, because band is blocked by heavy QRM/QRN from a > light dimmer somewhere in > the neighbourhood...... > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f7a0bffde680632c68ea3b5d18fc607298935bf1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs40879qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr4513663nfl; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si6124nfb.2006.08.18.13.14.09; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEAgJ-00077A-5g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:11:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEAgI-000771-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:11:02 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEAgE-0008W1-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:11:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 31495 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 2006 20:10:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.45]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 18 Aug 2006 20:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c6c301$ef7bf620$2dbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <44E5DC22.19166.1149C7@localhost> <001e01c6c2d9$1c233900$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:07:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.452,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4791 Ok thanks, hmmm unfortunatly I am a bit late in discovering this, as I already made the first part of an X-tal oscillator for 136.320kHz........ Well, I guess I have to start looking in my X-tal again. Problem is how to make 137.7 (or better 137.7x2) from an X-tal. Of course I have nothing in my junkbox that can be divided to this frequency, in fact even for 136.320 I had to manually modifiy an X-tal by opening it up and painting it. Anyway, meanwhile I got QRSS running! Now I only need to built something that creates the right fixed frequency.... My VXO will reach it, but is not acurate enough , I guess. 73 Dick, PA4VHF QRV tomorrow 14-15 utc in beacon mode around 136.550kHz with 8wpm. QRSS activety to follow soon, I hope. Unfortunatly I can't listen, because band is blocked by heavy QRM/QRN from a light dimmer somewhere in the neighbourhood...... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2f549cd1480523226dac9e32b2edf4a658de0e84 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs26513qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr4201578nfi; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si41881nfb.2006.08.18.08.20.01; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE65B-0005D5-Q7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:16:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE65B-0005Cw-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:16:25 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GE658-0007Mq-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:16:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 31766 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2006 15:15:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.92.40 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2006 15:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c6c2d9$1c233900$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <44E5DC22.19166.1149C7@localhost> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:13:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.523 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4792 Hi Dick I think Mike means that 136.320 should not be used for QRSS in daytime as it is in the area popular with inter Eu manual morse qsos. Good Luck with your weekend tests. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Dennison To: Cc: Dick Sent: 18 August 2006 15:26 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's > Dick, > > For contacts within Europe, use 137.700 +/- 30Hz at QRSS3 (3 second > dot length) or occasionally QRSS10. > > The lower frequency (136.320kHz +/- 2Hz) is for DX tests, mainly to > North America, at night. This should not be used for inter-EU traffic > during the daytime. > > I suggest that you watch a few QSOs before transmitting to see the > protocol and how abbreviations are used. Saturday and Sunday late > mornings are popular times. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dc8b8a18a83b7a010f4ac13f7da8b6e904047954 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs24026qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr4135256nfg; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si395131nfa.2006.08.18.07.33.04; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE5JE-0004ok-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GE5JE-0004ob-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:52 +0100 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GE5J8-0006H3-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:51 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060818142632.SXWF27023.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:32 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060818142632.GTCF15733.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison>; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:32 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:26:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Dick" Message-ID: <44E5DC22.19166.1149C7@localhost> In-reply-to: <081720062122.19149.44E4DE110001D8AC00004ACD22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.132,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4793 Dick, For contacts within Europe, use 137.700 +/- 30Hz at QRSS3 (3 second dot length) or occasionally QRSS10. The lower frequency (136.320kHz +/- 2Hz) is for DX tests, mainly to North America, at night. This should not be used for inter-EU traffic during the daytime. I suggest that you watch a few QSOs before transmitting to see the protocol and how abbreviations are used. Saturday and Sunday late mornings are popular times. Mike, G3XDV ========== > The European transmit window is centered on 136.320, you can watch > your signals in DF6NM's online grabber: > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Dick" > > Thanks all for the comments about QRSS programms. > > I have Rik's programm on my laptop now. > > Seems to work! > > > > Now have to build the interfaces > > > > > > Next question of course is where to transmit? > > > > In other words, what are the usual European QRSS frequencies and > > speeds? Are there any other things to think off when starting QRSS > > tests? > > > > 73 > > > > Dick, pa4vhf > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c8e41d6e0eb9b62b55a3d01bb42490921ac40b7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs367721qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr3103432nfi; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si6367118nfc.2006.08.17.14.29.47; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpKd-0007Pz-QZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpKc-0007Pq-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:14 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDpKY-0001X7-5d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:14 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060817212226m1100e0adpe>; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:22:26 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:22:25 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Dick" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:22:25 +0000 Message-Id: <081720062122.19149.44E4DE110001D8AC00004ACD22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.632,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4794 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dick, The European transmit window is centered on 136.320, you can watch your signals in DF6NM's online grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dick" > Thanks all for the comments about QRSS programms. > I have Rik's programm on my laptop now. > Seems to work! > > Now have to build the interfaces > > > Next question of course is where to transmit? > > In other words, what are the usual European QRSS frequencies and speeds? > Are there any other things to think off when starting QRSS tests? > > 73 > > Dick, pa4vhf --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Dick" To: Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:04:17 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for the comments about QRSS=20 programms.
I have Rik's programm on my laptop=20 now.
Seems to work!
 
Now have to build the = interfaces
 
 
Next question of course is where to=20 transmit?
 
In other words, what are the usual = European QRSS=20 frequencies and speeds?
Are there any other things to think off = when=20 starting QRSS tests?
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19149_1155849745_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2e22bb22ec0200958fbc36382572bd00deac1fd7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs367626qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr3074270nfk; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si6382263nfe.2006.08.17.14.27.31; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpLI-0007Qf-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpLI-0007QW-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:56 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDpLD-0001XQ-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:23:55 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20060817212344m1500jpnjje>; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:23:44 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:23:43 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Dick" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:23:43 +0000 Message-Id: <081720062123.21300.44E4DE5F000D8D1B0000533422092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.617,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4795 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dick, QRSS 30 and 60 are the most common speeds for transatlantic work, QRSS 3 is FB for working within Europe. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dick" > Thanks all for the comments about QRSS programms. > I have Rik's programm on my laptop now. > Seems to work! > > Now have to build the interfaces > > > Next question of course is where to transmit? > > In other words, what are the usual European QRSS frequencies and speeds? > Are there any other things to think off when starting QRSS tests? > > 73 > > Dick, pa4vhf --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Dick" To: Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:04:17 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for the comments about QRSS=20 programms.
I have Rik's programm on my laptop=20 now.
Seems to work!
 
Now have to build the = interfaces
 
 
Next question of course is where to=20 transmit?
 
In other words, what are the usual = European QRSS=20 frequencies and speeds?
Are there any other things to think off = when=20 starting QRSS tests?
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21300_1155849823_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211995259789912466 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7021bda1db9946a9c561d9120b1547901ff1596f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs366820qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr3042494nfg; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si5060967nfc.2006.08.17.14.05.49; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDoxM-0007Eu-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:59:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDoxL-0007El-6o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:59:11 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDoxG-0001Rn-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:59:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 31950 invoked by uid 0); 17 Aug 2006 20:57:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.53]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 17 Aug 2006 20:57:51 -0000 Message-ID: <00b501c6c23f$58dc5240$7ebe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:54:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.463,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6C250.1BC67140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4796 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6C250.1BC67140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for the comments about QRSS programms. I have Rik's programm on my laptop now. Seems to work! Now have to build the interfaces Next question of course is where to transmit? In other words, what are the usual European QRSS frequencies and speeds? Are there any other things to think off when starting QRSS tests? 73 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C6C250.1BC67140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for the comments about QRSS=20 programms.
I have Rik's programm on my laptop=20 now.
Seems to work!
 
Now have to build the = interfaces
 
 
Next question of course is where to=20 transmit?
 
In other words, what are the usual = European QRSS=20 frequencies and speeds?
Are there any other things to think off = when=20 starting QRSS tests?
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:36:52 +0100 Received: from smtp7.orange.fr ([193.252.22.24] helo=smtp-msa-out07.orange.fr) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEinX-0003Pa-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:36:51 +0100 Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-3-18.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.232.18]) by mwinf0703.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F28B0100008F for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:36:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060820083640993.F28B0100008F@mwinf0703.orange.fr Message-ID: <200608201036280738.07E6E119@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:36:28 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.565 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4800 On 19/08/2006 at 20:14 Dave G3WCB wrote: >Dick, Mal, LF, > >The 74LS161 is a schottky TTL programmable divider, that will divide by= any >number up to 16. There's a 74HCT161 device that does exactly the same >thing, >if you prefer CMOS. I've attached a scrap of the circuit showing you how= to >wire it up to divide by 12, 13 or 14. > >If anyone on the reflector wants a copy of the complete circuit (3579 > >234/137 kHz), let me know and I'll send it direct (750kb Word document) > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Yes, please. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212169528973838760 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 672010f8b5159ddf4ccce3dfdf93b7715ba0180f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86099qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5606724nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si672835nfb.2006.08.19.12.15.46; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWFs-00017L-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWFr-00017C-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:11 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEWFn-0007QP-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:13:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 65722 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2006 19:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.167 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2006 19:13:00 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:14:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.125,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C3CC.03CDC700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4801 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6C3CC.03CDC700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, Mal, LF, The 74LS161 is a schottky TTL programmable divider, that will divide by any number up to 16. There's a 74HCT161 device that does exactly the same thing, if you prefer CMOS. I've attached a scrap of the circuit showing you how to wire it up to divide by 12, 13 or 14. If anyone on the reflector wants a copy of the complete circuit (3579 > 234/137 kHz), let me know and I'll send it direct (750kb Word document) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 19 August 2006 13:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Thanks for this info Dave. Of course I have these x-tals; they also been used regulary for 80m fox hunting TX's. Biggest problem however, is to divide by 13........ I do not have to much schematics about dividers. I found another solution, hi I took an 4.433MHz X-tal and tuned it down to 4406kHz...... That divided by 16 will give me the 275.4kHz I need to drive the rest of the circuit. Any schematics/links about how to divide by 13 are welcome. I'll be on this afternoon 14-15ut on 136.550kHz +/- 50Hz with CW 8wpm beacon mode. Maybe, one of these days my signal might show up around 137.7 in QRSS 3...... 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:02:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 11783 invoked by uid 0); 12 Aug 2006 20:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.14]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 12 Aug 2006 20:02:39 -0000 Message-ID: <006b01c6be49$d00f6e00$33be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:59:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.154,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: email problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01C6BE5A.931B1EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4805 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C6BE5A.931B1EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm I tried several times to send pictures, only 100-200kB total for the whole mail, but didn't arrive...... Is it not allowed? Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C6BE5A.931B1EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hmm I tried several times to send = pictures, only=20 100-200kB
total for the whole mail, but didn't=20 arrive......
 
Is it not allowed?
 
Dick, pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C6BE5A.931B1EC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210636049020288419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 740ea0d46bdac8f9aef53ba1385e96b18e864e74 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs101411qbh; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr2212177nfj; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si782649nfc.2006.08.03.02.28.06; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8ZRX-0008PV-Vm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8ZRX-0008PM-Dg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:39 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net ([212.159.14.214]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8ZRR-0007Wy-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:39 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1G8ZRE-0001EU-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c6b6de$97b16c60$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4806 Hi Gary, I use an FT847 on 4m, and can confirm it is both inefficient and deaf. But it does work, and I have had some nice contacts on it - including Portugal this year. May I recommend the website http://www.70mhz.org/ Where there is useful information about equipment for 4 meters. Also the "fourmeters" email reflector which operates in very much the same way as this one (and is nearly as active) can be found on "Yahoo Groups" - it is is a good place to discuss topics such as this, but also to arrange skeds etc. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic > Hi All, > > Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone > knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be > modded > to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210636049020288419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7bdb594b0f3e447bd4d541bb075aff55313f544f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs88145qbh; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr2874564nfi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si57458nfc.2006.08.02.14.01.44; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Nmy-0005oj-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:58:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Nmy-0005oX-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:58:00 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep14-int.chello.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8Nms-0004y5-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:58:00 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.191]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060802205748.QRJQ13274.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: <006b01c6b676$4f952b50$bf423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:57:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.969,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4807 Hello Gary , The Yaesu FT847 that I own is suitable for use at 70Mhz , HF 1.8-30Mhz ,50Mhz , VHF and UHF but is no longer in production . I think You can find it advertised second hand in Radcom . 73, William PA0WFO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic > Hi All, > > Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone > knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be > modded > to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211019453769244729 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4863575b3ca2d793ec8d88232179afb2529e23dd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs205446qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.106.15 with SMTP id i15mr11891441pym; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 24si2583703nzn.2006.08.07.03.17.19; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GA23a-0007K3-UE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GA23a-0007Ju-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:58 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s40.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.112]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GA23V-0008M5-Oa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:58 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W16 ([207.46.11.179]) by bay0-omc1-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Aug 2006 03:09:47 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Scott Tilley" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 02:09:47 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2006 10:09:47.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CE58F80:01C6BA09] X-Spam-Score: 4.8 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.772,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04=0.184,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_a5f60a9b-5afe-4696-9965-f2b6bbcd1f1d_" Subject: RE: LF: Flash: Shanghai Grabber DE CKN... 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Laurence CKN just came on 133.1ish with the unmodulated pattern as depicted= below...RX 800Hz =3D 133.10KHz73 Scott _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_d35fefa5-059d-4c32-a62a-50624da3e427_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= rg - thanks





 

Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 19:32:28 -0700
From: sthed475@telus.net
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Flash: Shanghai Grabber DE CKN...=

Laurence

CKN = just came on 133.1ish with the unmodulated pattern as depicted below...
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RX 800Hz =3D 133.10KHz

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73 Scott




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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060602060507040309030703" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_COMMENT_8BITS,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4809 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060602060507040309030703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurence CKN just came on 133.1ish with the unmodulated pattern as depicted below... RX 800Hz = 133.10KHz 73 Scott --------------060602060507040309030703 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------030009010200060305070500" --------------030009010200060305070500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurence

CKN just came on 133.1ish with the unmodulated pattern as depicted below...

RX 800Hz = 133.10KHz



73 Scott


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Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:54:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.024,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Propagation, beacon and Grabbers Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4810 Friends, At about 04:30, KI0LE picked up the weak signals again from QRSS60, 100 Watt, VY1JA during a period of apparently maximum signal strength just before the XES signal died. This is much like what happens on HF and MF. The signals apparently become strongest just before they disappear. As long as the beaconing is going on 24/7 for the experiment here, the outgoing propagation is watched here by using Rapido on KI0LE and VE7TIL grabbers. This is proving to be an excellent tool for experiment records and I would like to provide the option for others to check for their signals at VY1JA in return. Has anyone found an "inexpensive", yet effective way to null out the transmitted LF signal while receiving on another antenna? Links, articles, white papers? J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212132564624234798 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 238bedc1891e33c9136766de490233001c130440 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs71954qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr5266233nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si2678nfc.2006.08.19.06.43.58; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GER4H-0005ud-Kk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:40:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GER4G-0005uU-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:40:53 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GER4C-0005KV-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:40:52 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GER4B-0004X8-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:40:47 +0200 Received: from p5486826f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.130.111] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GER4B-0003OC-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:40:47 +0200 Message-ID: <44E714DE.3090605@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:40:46 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.831 Subject: Re: LF: RE: PI4VPO/Lt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4811 Greetings all, As Dave wrote... > BTW I just heard them giving DK4U a 339 report :-( .... > > Confirmed, it was a bit tough to work PI4VPO this morning in regular CW (from DK4U) but at least it worked. Guess they have lots of local QRM at their lighthouse, since PI4VPO was 559 with me despite a totally detuned preselector in my RX. But nice to get 3 (!) new calls into DK4U's log this morning. So thanks to PI4VPO, Sid DM2AYO, and Joerg DL3NRV/p if they are monitoring this reflector. Have a nice weekend, 73 Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212132564624234798 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a5543c2076430bd775e894d9ae4cb5305b7ca054 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs64402qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr5041642nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si885839nfb.2006.08.19.02.28.14; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEN5u-00042r-LF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:26:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEN5u-00042i-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:26:18 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEN5q-0007ah-82 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:26:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 26052 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2006 09:26:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.167 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2006 09:26:07 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20060819103953.0363f890@pop3.casema.nl> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.413,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: PI4VPO/Lt Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C37A.05FB75B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4812 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C37A.05FB75B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, LF Group. I copied your QSO with PI4VPO/Lt. Their report was 559 using a W&G SPM-30. The PI4VPO signal was about 10dB above the noise. I found that their CW was a little too fast for the 27Hz bandwidth of the W&G. Spectran screenshot attached showing G3KEV (136.704) and PI4VPO/Lt (136.504) BTW I just heard them giving DK4U a 339 report :-( .... 73, Dave IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Rollema Sent: 19 August 2006 09:44 To: LF-Group Subject: LF: PI4VPO/Lt Just worked PI4VPO/Lt operating from a light tower. Their signal was many dB over S9. Not surprising with their 55 m high aerial. But I am disappointed at the little response to their CQ's. 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<44DE059E.17196.1D6BF55@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.538,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Sat night Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4815 I will be on 136.322kHz (subject to QRM from other stations) sending QRSS 40 from early evening until late. Mike, G3XDV ========== > Ill be watching the European window 136.320 dot30slow (Window is > +-4Hz) at around Eu dusk until my dawn (say 2330z) - last night dcf39 > tones woke me up they were so (relatively)loud. QRN is light at the > moment here at 1630 local which is a good sign. > Good luck - Laurence, still in Singapore... OJ11 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211495904327960978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 475ce38b6246d638f6dbf71ea72414e0242cce41 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs141718qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr4893503nfl; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si5478360nfc.2006.08.12.01.48.47; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBp2a-0003jt-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:40:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBp2a-0003jk-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:40:20 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.76]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBp2V-0000fr-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:40:20 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W1 ([207.46.11.164]) by bay0-omc1-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:39:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.118] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 00:39:48 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2006 08:39:48.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEDDE9C0:01C6BDEA] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.166,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_51fcc79a-3db0-4592-9cbf-7c225bbd6e03_" Subject: LF: Sat night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4816 --_51fcc79a-3db0-4592-9cbf-7c225bbd6e03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill be watching the European window 136.320 dot30slow (Window is +-4Hz) at = around Eu dusk until my dawn (say 2330z) - last night dcf39 tones woke me u= p they were so (relatively)loud. QRN is light at the moment here at 1630 lo= cal which is a good sign. =20 Ill also be looking for USA/Canada West coast if anyone is on at my dusk to= night (they all should be sleeping now!) =20 Good luck - Laurence, still in Singapore... OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_51fcc79a-3db0-4592-9cbf-7c225bbd6e03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Ill be watching the European window 136.320 dot30slow (Window is +-4H= z) at around Eu dusk until my dawn (say 2330z) - last night dcf39 tone= s woke me up they were so (relatively)loud. QRN is light at the moment here= at 1630 local which is a good sign.
 
Ill also be looking for USA/Canada West coast if anyone is on at my dusk to= night (they all should be sleeping now!)
 
Good luck - Laurence, still in Singapore... OJ11


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Static levels low here tonight, so I thought I'd put out a call. Running the usual 200W RF output, 1,4A antenna current. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 02 August 2006 20:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3WCB Dave, nice signal here in JO52hp. See attachment. 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210907265015273796 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4019ce1df71637a79d20a6271b2019ac77cbe65b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs173293qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr6896112nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si4054417nfc.2006.08.05.13.52.37; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9T69-0002AR-Gk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:50:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9T69-0002AI-10 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:50:17 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.96]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9T64-0005Je-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:50:17 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W12 ([207.46.11.175]) by bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:50:05 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Gary - G4WGT" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:50:03 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2006 20:50:05.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB119D80:01C6B8D0] X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.235,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bedc8711-d6f1-48ab-a1e4-579d72e3ca08_" Subject: LF: Sigs X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4818 --_bedc8711-d6f1-48ab-a1e4-579d72e3ca08_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Gary - Ill leave the grabber on till I wake up -=20 =20 Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be looking again tomorrow= night as well - as long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m fishing rod is t= he highest thing on the roof of this hotel! =20 The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment. =20 Cheers Laurence OJ11 Singapore http://www.kl1x.com =20 =20 From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.ukTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 5 Aug 2= 006 20:48:41 +0100Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 OK Laurence, =20 I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start i= n a couple of minutes. =20 Gud Luk. =20 Gary -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 05 Augus= t 2006 20:39To: Gary - G4WGTSubject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39Name your poison Gary= - Ive not seem a line yet here... Laurence in 9v1 From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.ukTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Sat, 5 Aug 2= 006 20:34:54 +0100Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Hi Laurence, =20 I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?=20 =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 05 Augus= t 2006 20:09To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: dcf39dcf39 is cw a= udible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone fro= m europe on? Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.=20 Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messen= ger!=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_bedc8711-d6f1-48ab-a1e4-579d72e3ca08_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Ok Gary - Ill leave the grabber on till I wake up -
 
Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be looking again tomorrow= night as well  - as long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m fishing rod= is the highest thing on the roof of this hotel!
 
The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment.  
Cheers
Laurence OJ11
Singapore
http://www.kl1x.com
 





 

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

OK Laurence,
 
I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. St= art in a couple of minutes.
 
Gud Luk.
 
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laur= ence KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39
To: Gary - G4WGTSubject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

Name your poison Ga= ry - Ive not seem a line yet here...
 
Laurence in 9v1





From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi Laurence,
 
I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09
To: rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: dcf39

dcf39 = is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - any= one from europe on?

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It's free!=0A= = --_bedc8711-d6f1-48ab-a1e4-579d72e3ca08_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211785639630878032 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d99d7e49ab5d2e90620a6b6de050505099790be Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs247451qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr1485556nfg; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si1911367nfe.2006.08.15.07.42.56; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD04e-0002J1-90 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD04d-0002Is-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:19 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GD04a-0007dX-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:19 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GD04Z-0006G2-00; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:39:15 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XLtlAkZTQe3utJ+ITk2lVPXCDf7LgFW5xEXHqLm5YnR-UhG7pIvH6r@[84.133.96.95]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GD04I-0WXGme0; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:38:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:38:54 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <119481641.20060815163854@t-online.de> To: Hartmut Wolff In-Reply-To: <893284842.20060815162710@t-online.de> References: <000e01c6c06e$8bb70200$09be3b3e@fujitsu> <893284842.20060815162710@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XLtlAkZTQe3utJ+ITk2lVPXCDf7LgFW5xEXHqLm5YnR-UhG7pIvH6r X-TOI-MSGID: e521cfb2-4f40-46cb-96f8-0afafc4e22e1 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.822 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF testing agn 136.30kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------F31DEDD3FB1103C" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4820 ------------F31DEDD3FB1103C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now the signal could be identified. 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from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCzt5-0003Xs-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:27:27 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GCzt3-0004yn-03; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:27:21 +0200 Received: from HW1 (S39d2-ZpweFGvgrhJBjAivLC1t11ll5R4br1kDDaWQH78LB8Wn1OrV@[84.133.96.95]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GCzsu-1pHbBw0; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:27:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:27:10 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <893284842.20060815162710@t-online.de> To: Dick In-Reply-To: <000e01c6c06e$8bb70200$09be3b3e@fujitsu> References: <000e01c6c06e$8bb70200$09be3b3e@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: S39d2-ZpweFGvgrhJBjAivLC1t11ll5R4br1kDDaWQH78LB8Wn1OrV X-TOI-MSGID: 9d90cd32-9443-4bc9-bec5-682c9c7f8861 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.786 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF testing agn 136.30kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------9E9712B1FDF5E00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4821 ------------9E9712B1FDF5E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > starts around 13.30utc; also some higher powered tests planned > Dick My 5wpm screen shows only some longer dashes on 136.35 kHz until now. 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(HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.9]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 13:30:39 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c6c06e$8bb70200$09be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:27:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.134,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF testing agn 136.30kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C07F.4E873060" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4822 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C07F.4E873060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable starts around 13.30utc; also some higher powered tests planned Dick ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C07F.4E873060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
starts around 13.30utc; also some = higher powered=20 tests planned
 
Dick
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C07F.4E873060-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211571997619763295 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ea5d3583dedf25f22b834ead9282438d7fcaaa83 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs162991qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr5528264nfj; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si7083250nfc.2006.08.12.21.58.15; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GC80v-0001yd-Ft for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:55:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GC80u-0001yU-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:55:52 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GC80r-0002zX-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:55:52 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 89CEB12BD0 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <005a01c6be94$a9e3be70$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 04:55:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.025,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Miracles. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4823 Laurence, The VY1JA beacon is still on 24/7 ~137778.4, QRSS30. Tonight/Sunday AM, if Steve sees good traces of the beacon, we may try a short CW QSO around 3:00-ish PDT. If you have any traces which look like faint ghosts let me know, maybe they are really radio angels in disquise. :o) J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212531620526587073 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c0f93fc1a7cd7c75c72b7f9fb3adff7cd650881d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs319752qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr2581156nfi; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si2995955nfc.2006.08.23.13.28.52; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzGr-0007qw-D7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:24:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzGq-0007qn-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:24:16 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.178]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFzGl-00025j-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:24:16 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m51so317785pye for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:23:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nVt9vZOebQQyypCs1OmZu/AeqO/9C1OsgJsWjIVIRJhjBIM8yejfhJkef668D+LI4bTdkB7vcDwRQwb49Y9pNJI6A4+mBEbEYV8uprUdO0hK/LDnGVAJbofv0Z6SVTjL8jhwaQjBuX3NRQmK6ln19MqbwCbUg3JHH8HahClUpOY= Received: by 10.35.51.19 with SMTP id d19mr1261166pyk; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.34.7 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:23:09 +0200 From: "Holger Korioth" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003401c6c6ee$635886e0$670024d5@jboi0045tiscali> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=1.365,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_113276_30247557.1156364589907" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4824 ------=_Part_113276_30247557.1156364589907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, let me say Hello to the Group on this way! rcvd you also this evening, dr Dick (see Screenshot), RX here Icom IC-735 w 500Hz CW-Filter and Datong VLF-Converter, Antenna: 2x10m Doublet with 13m feedline. I am 35 Years old and ham since 1989, most time active in digital Modes on Shortwave but also interessted in VLF and 6m. 73s Holger, DF6DBF 2006/8/23, Dave G3WCB : > > Hello Dick, LF, > > Screenshot of tonight's transmission attached. Quite a lot of QRN here > tonight. Receiving you on a 1,2m square tuned loop at ground level. RX is > an > ICOM IC-R1000 with a tuned preamp. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN > Sent: 23 August 2006 20:58 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 > > > > 23./08/2006 1953z > > Hello Dick! > Hello Ko! > > Difficult to find you Dick! > But Ko gave the solution... > Propagation not high this evening. > Thank you and good DX. > > Best 73's both. > > Jeff F6CWN JN09tt (~435Km) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ko Versteeg" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 > > > > Dick wrote: > > > I'm cqing now, QRV until 20 ut around 137.708? > > > Running full power, into that same little bad antenna, hi. > > > > > > Antenna current well over 2 Amps at times > > > > > > Would like to know my exact frequency, hi. > > > Also trying to optimize RX software > > > > > > CU > > > > > > Dick, PA4VHF in JO32EH > > > > Hallo Dick > > Om 20:48 was het "hoge toon" 137720.4 en "lage toon" 137716.8 > > zie: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm > > > > Signaal staat nog steeds op die frequentie > > 73 Ko, NL9222 > > > > > > --- > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 0634-1, 08/23/2006 > > Tested on: 8/23/2006 9:14:34 PM > > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_113276_30247557.1156364589907 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, let me say Hello to the Group on this way!
rcvd you also this evening, dr Dick (see Screenshot), RX here Icom IC-735 w 500Hz CW-Filter and Datong VLF-Converter, Antenna: 2x10m Doublet with 13m feedline.

I am 35 Years old and ham since 1989, most time active in digital Modes on Shortwave but also interessted in VLF and 6m.

73s Holger, DF6DBF

2006/8/23, Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>:
Hello Dick, LF,

Screenshot of tonight's transmission attached. Quite a lot of QRN here
tonight. Receiving you on a 1,2m square tuned loop at ground level. RX is an
ICOM IC-R1000 with a tuned preamp.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ]On Behalf Of F6CWN
Sent: 23 August 2006 20:58
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7



23./08/2006   1953z

Hello Dick!
Hello Ko!

Difficult to find you Dick!
But Ko gave the solution...
Propagation not high this evening.
Thank you and good DX.

Best 73's both.

Jeff F6CWN JN09tt (~435Km)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ko Versteeg" <nl9222@xs4all.nl>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7


> Dick wrote:
> > I'm cqing now, QRV until 20 ut around 137.708?
> > Running full power, into that same little bad antenna, hi.
> >
> > Antenna current well over 2 Amps at times
> >
> > Would like to know my exact frequency, hi.
> > Also trying to optimize RX software
> >
> > CU
> >
> > Dick, PA4VHF in JO32EH
>
> Hallo Dick
> Om 20:48 was het  "hoge toon"  137720.4 en "lage toon" 137716.8
> zie:
>   http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm
>
> Signaal staat nog steeds op die frequentie
> 73 Ko, NL9222
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 0634-1, 08/23/2006
> Tested on: 8/23/2006 9:14:34 PM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>
>





------=_Part_113276_30247557.1156364589907-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212531620526587073 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 532092207e66b37f569d12bf842f0e1515ecfd3d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs319213qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr2533669nff; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2976145nfc.2006.08.23.13.16.19; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFz42-0007Zi-0u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:11:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFz41-0007ZZ-7P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:11:01 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFz3x-000201-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:11:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 16597 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2006 20:10:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-reply-to:Importance; b=GWbTeUruLzWzC35xnCO8Dbzizl4r9AQRK5OkW/PFbe+7f4ZCpT1+BBuMmfRZuAfEQxUORZo78WH454uTn04JkwlTYSSHOEaMdSuSixxUBUSufKlFiSL08YC/LGOWMSxPR//+J3V38txaeIAIstQwySdWukfxLAe7Pg2rKPrGaNc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.14.199 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2006 20:10:51 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-reply-to: <003401c6c6ee$635886e0$670024d5@jboi0045tiscali> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C6F8.C052D1C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4825 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C6F8.C052D1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dick, LF, Screenshot of tonight's transmission attached. Quite a lot of QRN here tonight. Receiving you on a 1,2m square tuned loop at ground level. RX is an ICOM IC-R1000 with a tuned preamp. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN Sent: 23 August 2006 20:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 23./08/2006 1953z Hello Dick! Hello Ko! Difficult to find you Dick! But Ko gave the solution... Propagation not high this evening. Thank you and good DX. Best 73's both. Jeff F6CWN JN09tt (~435Km) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ko Versteeg" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 > Dick wrote: > > I'm cqing now, QRV until 20 ut around 137.708? > > Running full power, into that same little bad antenna, hi. > > > > Antenna current well over 2 Amps at times > > > > Would like to know my exact frequency, hi. > > Also trying to optimize RX software > > > > CU > > > > Dick, PA4VHF in JO32EH > > Hallo Dick > Om 20:48 was het "hoge toon" 137720.4 en "lage toon" 137716.8 > zie: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm > > Signaal staat nog steeds op die frequentie > 73 Ko, NL9222 > > > --- > avast! 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(VPS 0634-1, 08/23/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.863,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C6C6EE.626D8AA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4826 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C6C6EE.626D8AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 23./08/2006 1953z Hello Dick! Hello Ko! Difficult to find you Dick! But Ko gave the solution... Propagation not high this evening. Thank you and good DX. Best 73's both. Jeff F6CWN JN09tt (~435Km) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ko Versteeg" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 > Dick wrote: > > I'm cqing now, QRV until 20 ut around 137.708? > > Running full power, into that same little bad antenna, hi. > > > > Antenna current well over 2 Amps at times > > > > Would like to know my exact frequency, hi. > > Also trying to optimize RX software > > > > CU > > > > Dick, PA4VHF in JO32EH > > Hallo Dick > Om 20:48 was het "hoge toon" 137720.4 en "lage toon" 137716.8 > zie: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm > > Signaal staat nog steeds op die frequentie > 73 Ko, NL9222 > > > --- > avast! 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Virus Database (VPS): 0634-1, 08/23/2006 Tested on: 8/23/2006 9:14:34 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212531620526587073 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1d684b356ebaa7e630053ea18b282880a9d481df Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs316157qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr2483852nfj; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si2902934nfc.2006.08.23.12.11.03; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFxuz-0006m6-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:57:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFxuy-0006lx-OL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:57:36 +0100 Received: from smtp4.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.91]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFxuu-0001TL-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:57:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 20566 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2006 18:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.108]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 23 Aug 2006 18:56:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c6c6e5$5b313600$6cbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:51:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.344,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF-DFCW3/5-137.7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6C6F5.F4AFFFE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4828 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6C6F5.F4AFFFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm cqing now, QRV until 20 ut around 137.708? Running full power, into that same little bad antenna, hi. Antenna current well over 2 Amps at times Would like to know my exact frequency, hi. Also trying to optimize RX software CU Dick, PA4VHF in JO32EH ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6C6F5.F4AFFFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Running full power, into that same = little bad=20 antenna, hi.
 
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Dick, PA4VHF in = JO32EH
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6C6F5.F4AFFFE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212130107880615549 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cc304855d138983a6041e288a38158aa6a393fc1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs63530qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5045115nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si59685nfa.2006.08.19.01.49.11; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMTw-0003aj-My for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMTw-0003aa-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:04 +0100 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEMTq-0003Yx-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:47:04 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556FEB.cable.casema.nl [83.85.111.235]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2150A492D for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:46:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20060819105450.03d8a520@pop3.casema.nl> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@pop3.casema.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:55:43 +0200 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 18-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.193,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: YL operator DL1DBC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1071121==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4833 --=====================_1071121==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To All from PA0SE I received the report from DL1DBC directly. But I take the freedom to put it on the reflector just to let you know that we now have a lady in our LF-group. 73, Dick, PA0SE >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:18:39 +0200 >From: "Sabine (DL1DBC)" >Subject: QSL >To: pa0se@amsat.org >X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at UCSD.Edu >X-Greylist: delayed 1491 seconds by postgrey-1.24 at nospam.ucsd.edu; Fri, > 18 Aug 2006 07:44:00 PDT >X-Virus-Scanned: by cas-filter4 >X-Authentication-warning: eusebia.cc.de: Host sabine.cc.de [10.1.0.5] claimed > to be [10.1.0.5] >User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 >Original-recipient: rfc822;dickrollema@casema.nl > >Hi Dick, >I am new to LF and just testing my rig. >I don't think you are interested in qsls from JO31oj but nevertheless I want >to tell you that I copied your signals on 137.700 ufb this afternoon. > >With best 73 >Sabine >DL1DBC, JO31oj > > > --=====================_1071121==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" To All from PA0SE

I received the report from DL1DBC directly. But I take the freedom to put it on the reflector just to let you know that we now have a lady in our LF-group.

73, Dick, PA0SE


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Hi Dick,
I am new to LF and just testing my rig.
I don't think you are interested in qsls from JO31oj but nevertheless I want
to tell you that I copied your signals on 137.700 ufb this afternoon.

With best 73
Sabine
DL1DBC, JO31oj



--=====================_1071121==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211624788672658797 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0689761053091feb5d1b8e41c03485c0a5d4a864 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178646qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr470587nfg; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si4968643nfc.2006.08.13.11.57.21; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCL5W-0005Mk-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:53:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCL5V-0005Mb-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:53:29 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCL5R-0000i7-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:53:29 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2006 19:53:17 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAM4P30SLBwIHAgwHBh0 Received: from 88-106-97-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.97.39]:3145 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GCL5I-000CLR-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:53:16 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:53:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.691 Subject: LF: qrss60 tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4836 Hi All, Just started transmission 136.3195khz qrss60 375 watts. Reports welcome. Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211787659416496043 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5923337f7c07e47d98195e8fbdc463158c07eda9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs245296qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1457184nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si1867034nfc.2006.08.15.07.06.02; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCzSs-0001qc-2w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:00:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCzSr-0001qT-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:00:17 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.108]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCzSn-0007Lq-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:00:17 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W11 ([207.46.11.174]) by bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:00:07 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.201.14] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:00:04 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2006 14:00:07.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D4E7190:01C6C073] X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.107,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e33b12a6-2c72-435b-ab51-c47a10fcc8d3_" Subject: LF: last night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4839 --_e33b12a6-2c72-435b-ab51-c47a10fcc8d3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow so last night for LF listening -= conditions were very good to Eu yesterday after Eu dusk with strong sigs f= rom dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no one seemed to be on... =20 Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 +- 4 at Eu dusk - I missed West coas= t US this evening cos of work. =20 Laurence in 9v1 Singapore slinger running on argo 1 http://kl1.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_e33b12a6-2c72-435b-ab51-c47a10fcc8d3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow so last night for LF liste= ning - conditions were very good to Eu yesterday after Eu dusk with strong = sigs from dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no one seemed to be on..= .
 
Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 +- 4 at Eu dusk - I missed West coas= t US this evening cos of work.
 
Laurence in 9v1
Singapore slinger running on argo 1 http://kl1.c= om
 


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload j= okes, photos and more. It's free! It's free!=0A= = --_e33b12a6-2c72-435b-ab51-c47a10fcc8d3_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212229788191575211 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 848f593fd9ce182e6c2718788ec5cf5f15b0bae9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112612qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr6353091nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si1607659nfc.2006.08.20.04.13.33; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GElCx-0003yH-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:11:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GElCw-0003y8-Ki for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:11:10 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GElCr-0004OX-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:11:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 15475 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2006 09:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.158.180 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2006 09:56:09 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <003001c6c437$59f4d220$58be3b3e@fujitsu> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.290,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 & PA3FNY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C447.620C4050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4840 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C6C447.620C4050 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0028_01C6C447.620C4050" ------=_NextPart_001_0028_01C6C447.620C4050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, Here's a screenshot of your signal and Victor's signal for comparison. I think that Victor is 390km away, and you are about 480km away. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 20 August 2006 10:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 Thanks Dave, I am interested to see the difference between my signal, and those from other PA's. Victor is about 85km to the west from me, so closer to the UK. Compaired to yesterday I'm now running 3.5dB more power, never thought that would make such a difference! Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave G3WCB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: LF: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 Hi, Dick. "M" copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB weaker than PA3FNY. but strong enough for a QSO into "G - land" Keep up the good work! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM ------=_NextPart_001_0028_01C6C447.620C4050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dick,
 
Here's=20 a screenshot of your signal and Victor's signal for comparison. I think = that=20 Victor is 390km away, and you are about 480km away.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 Dick
Sent: 20 August 2006 10:02
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Report:-=20 PA4VHF-137.708

Thanks Dave,
 
I am interested to see the difference = between my=20 signal, and those from other PA's.
Victor is about 85km to the west from = me, so=20 closer to the UK.
 
Compaired to yesterday I'm now = running 3.5dB more=20 power, never thought that would make such a difference!
 
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave G3WCB
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 = 10:49=20 AM
Subject: LF: Report:- = PA4VHF-137.708=20

Hi, Dick.
 
"M" copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB = weaker than=20 PA3FNY. but strong enough for a QSO into "G - = land"
 
Keep up the good work!
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
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Allen" To: References: <001b01c6c7a4$2ca4f550$6501a8c0@eagles> <001701c6c7be$d6714920$12317ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:37:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.048,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TX output problem, still need helpl Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4841 Jim, Thank you for the feedback. I had no idea what the waveforms should look like before your message. Yes, the bypass capacitor is on the supply side of the supply choke and there is none on the center tap side. I will be bringing in the heavy duty 5 Volt supply from storage to do the testing with. Later today or tomorrow, I will take some scope traces and let you know what they are like. For now, I am back outside working on a retirement rental. J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212084486643147410 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d85bbce0f3a6ea32763daeb33ae29ef752c4957a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs42293qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr4514768nfg; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si233202nfb.2006.08.18.13.43.49; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEB7n-0007R5-CO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:39:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEB7m-0007Qs-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:39:26 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEB7i-0001lL-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:39:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 67299 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2006 20:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.122.174 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2006 20:39:16 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:40:18 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <001401c6c301$ef7bf620$2dbe3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.730,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4845 Dick, 3579.25 kHz crystal (very common TV colour decoder frequency) divided by 13 then 2 (26 times) will give you 137.663 kHz, which can be pulled +/- 30 Hz or so. This is what I use. You need an 74LS161 and a half a 74LS74 or CMOS equivalents. Dead easy! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 18 August 2006 21:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: QRSS QRG's Ok thanks, hmmm unfortunatly I am a bit late in discovering this, as I already made the first part of an X-tal oscillator for 136.320kHz........ Well, I guess I have to start looking in my X-tal again. Problem is how to make 137.7 (or better 137.7x2) from an X-tal. Of course I have nothing in my junkbox that can be divided to this frequency, in fact even for 136.320 I had to manually modifiy an X-tal by opening it up and painting it. Anyway, meanwhile I got QRSS running! Now I only need to built something that creates the right fixed frequency.... My VXO will reach it, but is not acurate enough , I guess. 73 Dick, PA4VHF QRV tomorrow 14-15 utc in beacon mode around 136.550kHz with 8wpm. QRSS activety to follow soon, I hope. Unfortunatly I can't listen, because band is blocked by heavy QRM/QRN from a light dimmer somewhere in the neighbourhood...... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210901089659039762 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ab574e8f7070effaec76b694da70f4add235c29a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs171608qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr5600650nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si3970964nfc.2006.08.05.12.14.27; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RWk-0001NW-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:09:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RWk-0001NN-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:09:38 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9RWf-0004uS-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:09:38 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W21 ([207.46.11.184]) by bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:09:06 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:09:06 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2006 19:09:06.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F94C090:01C6B8C2] X-Spam-Score: 4.4 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_964f5c76-614f-4a39-8c57-69c3a96e41a6_" Subject: LF: dcf39 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4846 --_964f5c76-614f-4a39-8c57-69c3a96e41a6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence= - anyone from europe on? _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_964f5c76-614f-4a39-8c57-69c3a96e41a6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - La= urence - anyone from europe on?

Be one of the first to try Windo= ws Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.= =0A= = --_964f5c76-614f-4a39-8c57-69c3a96e41a6_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211904395958019943 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 57c6fb91832ab302faae48035e4618379d8fe269 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs311557qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr1242951nfj; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si4178981nfc.2006.08.16.14.01.35; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDSRo-0007OI-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:57:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDSRn-0007O9-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:57:07 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDSRh-0002mY-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:57:07 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by mwinf6003.orange.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 837AD240009E for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:56:46 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060816205646538.837AD240009E@mwinf6003.orange.nl From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:56:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000a01c6c173$36aa7b60$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.057,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: FNY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C187.3B68FDC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4851 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C187.3B68FDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Vy, this is my first report from OZ, 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens OZ7QC ingolf Verzonden: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 22:33 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: FNY Hi group, Recived this at 16-08-2006 03:57 UTC in JO65BP Vy 73 OZ7QC Ingolf ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C187.3B68FDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks=20 Vy,
 
this=20 is my first report from OZ,
 
73=20 Victor PA3FNY
JO22NC
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens OZ7QC=20 ingolf
Verzonden: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 = 22:33
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: = FNY

Hi group,
 
Recived this at 16-08-2006 03:57 UTC = in=20 JO65BP
 
Vy 73 OZ7QC=20 Ingolf
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C187.3B68FDC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211000910904845496 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4227dd7d368cab2a0888af1d8bd73fd75d461372 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs193068qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 15:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr516111nfj; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si1915367nfe.2006.08.06.15.50.58; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9rPz-0003p1-4s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:48:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9rPy-0003ok-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:48:22 +0100 Received: from rad0.fairpoint.net ([69.50.57.10] helo=smtp.fairpoint.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9rPu-0004Vs-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:48:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 25501 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2006 22:47:16 -0000 Received: from mdm2-66-243-205-212.pivot.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (w1tag@66.243.205.212) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Aug 2006 22:47:16 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 66.243.205.212 X-CLIENT-HOST: mdm2-66-243-205-212.pivot.net Message-ID: <44D6716F.7040802@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:47:11 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002d01c6b9a0$3bdbbc00$894a8351@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002d01c6b9a0$3bdbbc00$894a8351@w4o8m9> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: KL1X Grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4852 Jim, > >At least the optimum propagation to 9V1 seems to be at > fairly civilised times at this end, unlike the "graveyard shift" when trying > to reach North America!< > > Blame continental drift. Of course, we'd hardly be DX without it! JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211000910904845496 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6ac994a67b5dd8d46f5b5bd93927054226c6a1f1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs192408qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr478827nfl; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si5171772nfc.2006.08.06.14.41.05; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9qKM-0003Ou-Bq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:38:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9qKL-0003Ol-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:38:29 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9qKH-0004IU-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:38:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 38713 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2006 21:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.74.137?) 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At least the optimum propagation to 9V1 seems to be at fairly civilised times at this end, unlike the "graveyard shift" when trying to reach North America! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211518911473948214 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 04d54802907f23c7d37dbc92027461cc30c3b7c5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs147920qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr5157292nff; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si4381025nfb.2006.08.12.07.54.28; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBunO-00050L-3l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:49:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBunN-00050C-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:49:01 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBunJ-0002H4-7u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:49:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 25168 invoked by uid 0); 12 Aug 2006 14:48:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.1]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 12 Aug 2006 14:48:48 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c6be1d$f85fe140$01be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:45:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.642,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: sri for 2 times pictures Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6BE2E.BACCE100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4854 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6BE2E.BACCE100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seems to have some trouble with my computers virusscanner. I couldn't send the pictures the first time, because the scanner stopped = scanning them....... So I send them a second time, and that time it did scan all right away. After that it started to finish scanning the first try......... As a result I've send things twice, I'm afraid sorry Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6BE2E.BACCE100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I seems to have some trouble with my = computers=20 virusscanner.
I couldn't send the pictures the first = time,=20 because the scanner stopped scanning them.......
So I send them a second time, and that = time it did=20 scan
all right away.
After that it started to finish = scanning the first=20 try.........
As a result I've send things twice, I'm = afraid
 
sorry
 
Dick, pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6BE2E.BACCE100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212180243619235134 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 420b370730c29a80cdd5ab1cfbebdbf99dc6cd7f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs92135qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr5760246nfh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si695733nfc.2006.08.19.15.06.04; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEYuH-00044y-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:03:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEYuG-00044p-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:03:04 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEYuC-00087z-G2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:03:04 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.150.3) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447F00ED006EA925 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:02:20 +0200 Message-ID: <016c01c6c3db$329ad5a0$740224d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:02:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.979,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA3FNY this night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0168_01C6C3DB.31B90120" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4855 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01C6C3DB.31B90120 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0169_01C6C3DB.31B90120" ------=_NextPart_001_0169_01C6C3DB.31B90120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 19./08/2006 2157z GN all! Solid copy in JN09tt Victor! Audio 539! VY 73: Jeff F6CWN ------=_NextPart_001_0169_01C6C3DB.31B90120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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GN all!
 
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Because of = very heavy=20 thunder and lighting around the lighttower of Goeree the crew of = PI4VPO/Lt has=20 suspended operations for the time being .
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6C441.3FAF9DF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210902547778114392 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 177b0249608b76128140dfadd651808efcf24a7f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs172499qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr496136nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si3999668nfb.2006.08.05.12.49.44; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9S7v-0001uG-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:48:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9S7u-0001u7-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:48:02 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9S7q-0003MZ-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:48:02 +0100 Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.98.141]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 20:47:50 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAM6S1ESCeodj Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.98.141]:1929 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9S7i-00097n-28 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:47:50 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.758,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6B8D0.889DF740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4857 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6B8D0.889DF740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Laurence, I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start in a couple of minutes. Gud Luk. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 Name your poison Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here... Laurence in 9v1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100 Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Hi Laurence, I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq? Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dcf39 dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messenger! ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6B8D0.889DF740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK=20 Laurence,
 
I am set up=20 for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start in a = couple of=20 minutes.
 
Gud=20 Luk.
 
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence=20 KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39
To: Gary -=20 G4WGT
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

Name your = poison=20 Gary - Ive not seem a line yet=20 here...
 
Laurence in 9v1






From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: = Sat, 5=20 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi=20 Laurence,
 
I can=20 send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary -=20 G4WGT
 
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From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,= 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi Laurence,
 
I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
-----Original Message-----
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dcf39 is cw= audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone f= rom europe on?

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Express yoursel= f instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messenger!=0A= = --_091df749-982d-44b0-8444-052800fe7906_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210902547778114392 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0d496c9dd2621c997e4dca9438a368b44025347f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs172186qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr6832949nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si3978701nfb.2006.08.05.12.37.38; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9Rue-0001b2-SI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:34:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9Rue-0001at-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:34:20 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9Rub-00050E-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:34:20 +0100 Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.98.141]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 20:34:07 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAFqO1ESCeodj Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.98.141]:1864 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9Rtw-0003xp-AO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:33:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.164,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6B8CE.9BF4E710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4859 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6B8CE.9BF4E710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Laurence, I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq? Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dcf39 dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6B8CE.9BF4E710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Laurence,
 
I can send an=20 hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary -=20 G4WGT
 
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To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF:=20 dcf39

dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this=20 time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on?

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Windows Live Mail. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C6B8CE.9BF4E710-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212973470306751871 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8115d64fbb913e8170f760c3ad95543e0c9c0c16 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs613168qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr9297491nfe; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si9657442nfe.2006.08.28.10.29.14; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHkr6-0000eY-3X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:25:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHkr5-0000eP-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:24:59 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GHkr1-0006fb-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:24:59 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2006 18:24:49 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAANy+8kSLKQICBwIMBwYd Received: from 88-106-105-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.210]:3936 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GHkq9-0001JC-KW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:24:01 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200608281858200621.010C2D85@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.767,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: RE: LF: RE: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4860 John, It was actually an MB (Mental Block). Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John RABSON Sent: 28 August 2006 17:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XIZ qrss01 In my grandfather's day this was probably known as an AOG (Act of God). 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 28/08/2006 at 17:07 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi Chris, > >Just dawned on me. > >EFW "End Fed Wire" > >Gary. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >Sent: 28 August 2006 16:56 >To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) >Subject: LF: G3XIZ qrss01 > > >Hi Chris, > >Saw/heard some of your qrss01 test this afternoon, heres the bit I got. > >G3XIZ IO92AB TEST G3XIZ QRG 137.7 KHZ TEST G3XIZ PWR 150 W TX HB ANT 40 M >EFW TEST G3XIZ. > >Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand >the abreviation?? > >73 > >Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212973470306751871 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 051fd6bbc74f3eee9a3245fdbf6fba120b8fd410 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs611535qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr9271040nfj; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si7896525nfe.2006.08.28.10.02.25; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHkRl-0000We-Ma for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:58:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHkRl-0000WV-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:58:49 +0100 Received: from smtp8.orange.fr ([193.252.22.23] helo=smtp-msa-out08.orange.fr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHkRi-0006p9-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:58:49 +0100 Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-4-166.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.135.166]) by mwinf0808.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B27001C00246 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:58:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060828165829731.B27001C00246@mwinf0808.orange.fr Message-ID: <200608281858200621.010C2D85@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:58:20 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.818,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: RE: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4861 In my grandfather's day this was probably known as an AOG (Act of God). 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 28/08/2006 at 17:07 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi Chris, > >Just dawned on me. > >EFW "End Fed Wire" > >Gary. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >Sent: 28 August 2006 16:56 >To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) >Subject: LF: G3XIZ qrss01 > > >Hi Chris, > >Saw/heard some of your qrss01 test this afternoon, heres the bit I got. > >G3XIZ IO92AB TEST G3XIZ QRG 137.7 KHZ TEST G3XIZ PWR 150 W TX HB ANT 40 M >EFW TEST G3XIZ. > >Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand >the abreviation?? > >73 > >Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212973470306751871 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b6b13a6ebae329c57a32ecec600e9347c0409b30 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs608353qbh; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr9201349nfg; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si4059568nfb.2006.08.28.09.14.04; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjeq-0000Ac-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:08:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GHjep-0000AQ-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GHjek-0006N8-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:08:15 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2006 17:07:02 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAL+x8kSLKQICBwQKBwYd Received: from 88-106-105-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.210]:3742 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GHjde-0003jy-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:07:02 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:44 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.087,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: RE: G3XIZ qrss01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4862 Hi Chris, Just dawned on me. EFW "End Fed Wire" Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 28 August 2006 16:56 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: G3XIZ qrss01 Hi Chris, Saw/heard some of your qrss01 test this afternoon, heres the bit I got. G3XIZ IO92AB TEST G3XIZ QRG 137.7 KHZ TEST G3XIZ PWR 150 W TX HB ANT 40 M EFW TEST G3XIZ. Chris, I either read EFW wrong (as in 40 M EFW) or I just don't understand the abreviation?? 73 Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212148829060888997 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 52fb7129e8c1b6407eca6fe37b66316c59a102f3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs72063qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr5291103nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si560959nfc.2006.08.19.06.46.45; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GER7L-00061o-EC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:44:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GER7K-00061b-Rd for 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to friends) till Sunday August 20 at about 0700 UTC. 73, Dick, PA0SE JO22GD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212128033915881093 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f15d919b6649c5213d2e728fe2c69484bc683e8c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs62727qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr5020491nfh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si181605nfc.2006.08.19.01.16.13; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GELxS-0003AU-HF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:13:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] 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smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 21:09:02 -0000 Message-ID: <007001c6c0ae$938a6180$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> <002501c6c0ad$2589c960$862d8351@w4o8m9> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:05:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.127,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01C6C0BF.56623100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4882 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C6C0BF.56623100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will this one run under windows 95 James? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Moritz=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS software Dear Dick, LF Group, ON7YD's "QRS" is the industry standard - it can be downloaded from = G3YXM's site at: http://www.wireless.org.uk/software.htm The current version is about 400k. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to = TX QRSS with a computer? 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C6C0BF.56623100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will this one run under windows 95=20 James?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 James Moritz
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 = 10:55=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS=20 software

Dear Dick, LF Group,
 
ON7YD's "QRS" is the industry = standard - it can=20 be downloaded from G3YXM's site at: http://www.wireless.org.= uk/software.htm
The current version is about = 400k.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, = 2006 9:38=20 PM
Subject: LF: simple QRSS = software

Where can I find a simple, and not = too large to=20 download programm to TX QRSS with a computer?
 
73
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C6C0BF.56623100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210995397398069462 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2a3370f2d0a9305187e91b90216a48dd95d3b1cd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191540qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr442986nfi; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si5103746nfe.2006.08.06.13.13.27; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ovn-0002Z7-RI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:09:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ovn-0002Yy-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:09:03 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9ovj-0003UV-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:09:03 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2006 21:07:51 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAAro1USKXg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:2853 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9oud-000IxO-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:07:51 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:08:45 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.117,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re : WGT Beacon - oops! 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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212449922343837631 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 03fc05ade22282bc1585e82163105554177b93f2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs262729qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr1046828nfn; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si1157563nfc.2006.08.22.14.32.30; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdnd-0002bj-1v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:28:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdnc-0002ba-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:28:40 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFdnY-0003FK-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:28:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 25210 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2006 21:28:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=wEDzpV7u3ffD46EzaCAQhxtLATXdUkYn3oZsdhQdJXdr0kPjTkkmguPpKyI1mx26fSLVTit/furrXDjsFGfqcVwhUAYEGo8o1Eu6m8mEgRoksQO1KuvUQG5Cw0+8h9jF2zk6MFVLPThCdisBqDk41aKDsI6/98I9z3rhwnQ7vpQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.123.219 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2006 21:28:29 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:29:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <002201c6c62d$83a69c00$04be3b3e@fujitsu> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.717,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: Re: vhf/bmu/wcb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C63A.6EEEE2B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4898 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C63A.6EEEE2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Dick, (Victor, LF) DFCW signals looked FB here. (See screenshot) What power were you running? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 22 August 2006 21:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: vhf/bmu/wcb nice to see!! Looks as if my signal was quite ok... 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smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2006 09:28:30 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c6bf84$0136e180$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: , Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:27:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.728 Subject: LF: T/A 13/14th Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4937 Hi all, I copied good solid call characters in DFCW from John's WD2XES last night between 0200 and 0440z. The were no intervening fades but the although noise of receding T-storms "snowed up" the earliest screen John's signals were visible behind the noise. The good conditions are confirmed by Steve W3EEE's plot of DCF39 last night which hit record levels again, well up to the best strengths seen during the winter. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212257379040541198 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 44d3cfa3614232c9bedc2a216a74940735e130c3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs134304qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr6864999nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si639630nfc.2006.08.20.13.31.40; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEttD-00015K-KA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:27:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEttD-00015B-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:27:23 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEtt7-0000vy-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:27:22 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GEts9-0005yK-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:26:17 +0200 Received: from p5486bfa5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.191.165] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GEts8-0001jl-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:26:17 +0200 Message-ID: <44E8C566.4010705@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:26:14 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c6c486$37093590$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> In-Reply-To: <001501c6c486$37093590$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.814 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Recived in JO65BP Wit attachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4957 Hi Ingolf and group, Thanks for the screenshot. It shows my first attempt -operating at DK4U- to call DM2AYO in Chirped Hell mode. QRN at Sid's QTH must have been a bit too high for Hell mode, so I called him again in QRSS 3 which worked fb. One can see that the leading unmodulated dash (during which I tuned the antenna) comes out much more clearly than the Hell characters. Still I like using the Hell mode if conditions allow it, since it's faster than QRSS. Regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212257379040541198 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1d21bc64049bc9b6cee38b6795ee16831f86681d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs129110qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr6813179nfv; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si83371nfc.2006.08.20.11.32.06; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEs12-00084r-9K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:27:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEs11-00084i-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:27:19 +0100 Received: from mailserver2.webhot2.dk ([83.221.140.45] helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEs0k-0001kj-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:27:19 +0100 Received: from oz7qcdell2 [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A9691868; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:26:49 +0200 Message-ID: <001501c6c486$37093590$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> From: "OZ7QC ingolf" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:26:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.866,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: Recived in JO65BP Wit attachment Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C496.FA32A780" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4958 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C496.FA32A780 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0012_01C6C496.FA32A780" ------=_NextPart_001_0012_01C6C496.FA32A780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: OZ7QC ingolf=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: Recived in JO65BP Hi Group, Recived in JO65BP at 09:50 UTC 19 August 73 de OZ7QC Ingolf ------=_NextPart_001_0012_01C6C496.FA32A780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Hi Group,
 
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Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.062 Subject: LF: DK7SU CQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6C166.4B399E10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4964 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6C166.4B399E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Strong signal from DK7SU despite local T-storm. 73 Victor PA3FNY JO22NC 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212236803977233326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4445b66aaba01c94839f87e1fd741a2f1802e8b4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs130506qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr6807223nfk; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si126846nfb.2006.08.20.11.58.12; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEsRv-0008Rg-A4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:55:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEsRu-0008RX-Tp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:55:06 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEsRd-0002Rv-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:55:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 1071 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 18:54:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.141]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 18:54:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c6c489$a17b16c0$8dbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <44E88890.25087.71D9F8@localhost> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:51:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.084,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS/DFCW timing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4966 Thanks Mike for the comments..... I am an experienced VHF operator (what's in the call, hi) and has been QRV with both meteorscatter and EME, so I know that procedures, which looks very much like the ones on LF.... I will seriously think about working 'split' etc. Meanwhile I have to do so work in order to be albo to work DFCW as well I will keep you all informed. 73 Dick, PA4VHF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" > > There are no fixed periods. The essential thing is to keep QSOs as > short as possible. > > A typical minimum QSO might be: > > CQ G3XDV K > (note that 'de' is never used and only one > callsign is sent) > G3XDV PA4VHF K > PA4VHF XDV O O K > (just the sufffix is used after full callsigns > have been exhanged. Reports are O for > 100% readable, M for readable with difficulty, > and T for unreadable) > XDV VHF R O O TU SK > (use TU for "thank you") > VHF XDV R TU SK > (and that is the end) > > When there is more time, you might give a locator. Some stations send > "73", but this is very time-consuming. A question mark is used as a > short form of "QRZ?" > > For an expedition things might be even more brief as they are on HF > (but some people argue that full calls must be exchanged to make a > valid QSO). Perhaps an expedition with callsign LX1XX might have QSOs > like this: > > CQ LX1XX > XX G3XDV K > G3XDV O K > R O SK > R SK > > XX G3YXM K > G3YXM O K > R O SK > R SK > > and so on ..... > > There have been QSOs where the DX station works two people at once > since two QRSS stations can often be copied at once, but I would not > recommend this. > > I do suggest that before you leave home you notify this group of your > transmit frequency (say 137.730kHz) and a receive range (say 137.680- > 137.690kHz) and try to operate split to avoid long delays when > unsuccessful callers are still on your frequency. > > Hope this helps. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212236803977233326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c0f7df1b2361e42ef32bc1ead58b79ca637577e4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs121383qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6568841nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si19492nfe.2006.08.20.08.10.48; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEot7-00069j-1a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEot6-00069a-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:56 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEot2-0006m2-Cs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:56 +0100 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820150646.WNLX1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:46 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820150646.GDNR23938.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:46 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44E88890.25087.71D9F8@localhost> In-reply-to: <001c01c6c455$110d8200$45be3b3e@fujitsu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.102,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS/DFCW timing Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4967 Dick, There are no fixed periods. The essential thing is to keep QSOs as short as possible. A typical minimum QSO might be: CQ G3XDV K (note that 'de' is never used and only one callsign is sent) G3XDV PA4VHF K PA4VHF XDV O O K (just the sufffix is used after full callsigns have been exhanged. Reports are O for 100% readable, M for readable with difficulty, and T for unreadable) XDV VHF R O O TU SK (use TU for "thank you") VHF XDV R TU SK (and that is the end) When there is more time, you might give a locator. Some stations send "73", but this is very time-consuming. A question mark is used as a short form of "QRZ?" For an expedition things might be even more brief as they are on HF (but some people argue that full calls must be exchanged to make a valid QSO). Perhaps an expedition with callsign LX1XX might have QSOs like this: CQ LX1XX XX G3XDV K G3XDV O K R O SK R SK XX G3YXM K G3YXM O K R O SK R SK and so on ..... There have been QSOs where the DX station works two people at once since two QRSS stations can often be copied at once, but I would not recommend this. I do suggest that before you leave home you notify this group of your transmit frequency (say 137.730kHz) and a receive range (say 137.680- 137.690kHz) and try to operate split to avoid long delays when unsuccessful callers are still on your frequency. Hope this helps. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I wonder if there is anything about fixed TX/RX periods when using > QRSS/DFCW. I mean like it is used to be on moonbounce and > meteorscatter for instance. > > Like transmit 5 minutes, RX 5 minutes, all synchronized of course by > starting at exact the whole hour or so. > > Transmitting QRSS is no longer a question for me, but I do not have > any experience in the 'real' QSO's. There is a need to find a way to > make QSO's as efficient as possible, and also as quick as possible > during the upcoming DX-pedition, because I will be limited in > operation time, and want to work as many as possible, hi. DFCW could > be a nice solution to save time. > > 73 > > Dick From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212236803977233326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 768d17c574f5c4235a3daa9103ce1f62b960aa32 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs120423qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6537503nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si1161623nfc.2006.08.20.07.44.27; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEoTT-0005rj-5a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEoTS-0005ra-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:26 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEoTO-0006Z5-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:26 +0100 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820144015.VWVT1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:15 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060820144015.FWIW23938.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:15 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:40:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44E88258.14756.598E2B@localhost> In-reply-to: <001c01c6c455$110d8200$45be3b3e@fujitsu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.110,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS/DFCW timing Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4968 On 20 Aug 2006 at 14:31, Dick wrote: > I wonder if there is anything about fixed TX/RX periods when using > QRSS/DFCW. I mean like it is used to be on moonbounce and > meteorscatter for instance. > > Like transmit 5 minutes, RX 5 minutes, all synchronized of course by > starting at exact the whole hour or so. > > Transmitting QRSS is no longer a question for me, but I do not have > any experience in the 'real' QSO's. There is a need to find a way to > make QSO's as efficient as possible, and also as quick as possible > during the upcoming DX-pedition, because I will be limited in > operation time, and want to work as many as possible, hi. DFCW could > be a nice solution to save time. > > 73 > > Dick From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212236803977233326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a5449af18c99b3015e93e41a7aad767959db1e18 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs116750qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr6454308nfl; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si130120nfc.2006.08.20.06.05.04; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmuq-00058v-1R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:00:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmup-00058m-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:00:35 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEmul-0005w5-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:00:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 13827 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 12:39:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.69]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 12:39:31 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c6c455$110d8200$45be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:31:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.416,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRSS/DFCW timing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C465.54A6DB00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4969 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C465.54A6DB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if there is anything about fixed TX/RX periods when using = QRSS/DFCW. I mean like it is used to be on moonbounce and meteorscatter for = instance. Like transmit 5 minutes, RX 5 minutes, all synchronized of course by = starting at exact the whole hour or so. Transmitting QRSS is no longer a question for me, but I do not have any = experience in the 'real' QSO's. There is a need to find a way to make QSO's as efficient as possible, = and also as quick as possible during the upcoming DX-pedition, because I will be limited in operation time, and = want to work as many as possible, hi. DFCW could be a nice solution to save time. 73 Dick ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C465.54A6DB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wonder if there is anything about = fixed TX/RX=20 periods when using QRSS/DFCW.
I mean like it is used to be on = moonbounce and=20 meteorscatter for instance.
 
Like transmit 5 minutes, RX 5 minutes, = all=20 synchronized of course by starting at exact the whole hour or = so.
 
Transmitting QRSS is no longer a = question for me,=20 but I do not have any experience in the 'real' QSO's.
There is a need to find a way to make = QSO's as=20 efficient as possible, and also as quick as possible during = the
upcoming DX-pedition, because I will be = limited in=20 operation time, and want to work as many as possible, hi.
DFCW could be a nice solution to save=20 time.
 
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Dick
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C465.54A6DB00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210681462009128863 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e5d276c5260a9c6a4cca2c7bf7e91db284f25bc6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs102391qbh; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr2265835nfi; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si831408nfc.2006.08.03.03.09.47; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8a2j-0000Bg-43 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:03:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8a2i-0000BX-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:03:04 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8a2e-00082Q-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:03:04 +0100 Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.105.57]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2006 11:02:39 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAP5l0USKTCw Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.57]:2988 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G8a2I-0004Ps-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:02:38 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:02:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601c6b6de$97b16c60$1f03210a@Hugh> X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.180,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4970 Hi Hugh, Thanks for the info re the FT847 & users group. I used to be a regular user of 70MHz & in 1986 operated special event station GB4MTR for 30 days in a year long operation to promote 4M. I still have the Microwave Modules 70MHz transverter which is superb (along with 144, 50 & 432MHz MM transverters) but as I am considering replacing the old FT747 I would have liked a rig to take all the transverters out of the equation as they don't get used any more as it is a pain to keep setting things up. I thought about a Log Periodic antenna for VHF/UHF & a rig like the FT897D. Thanks & 73. Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hugh_m0wye Sent: 03 August 2006 10:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Hi Gary, I use an FT847 on 4m, and can confirm it is both inefficient and deaf. But it does work, and I have had some nice contacts on it - including Portugal this year. May I recommend the website http://www.70mhz.org/ Where there is useful information about equipment for 4 meters. Also the "fourmeters" email reflector which operates in very much the same way as this one (and is nearly as active) can be found on "Yahoo Groups" - it is is a good place to discuss topics such as this, but also to arrange skeds etc. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic > Hi All, > > Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone > knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be > modded > to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210681462009128863 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d122e950126915a80f190a79d3cac3cb0eb59fc2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs100892qbh; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr3427265nfj; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si743636nfb.2006.08.03.02.03.29; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Yx0-0008EY-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:53:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G8Ywz-0008EP-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:53:05 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G8Yww-0007bO-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:53:05 +0100 Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.105.57]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2006 09:51:53 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FADZU0USKTCw Received: from 88-106-105-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.105.57]:2823 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G8YvL-000LLZ-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:51:23 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <006b01c6b676$4f952b50$bf423850@MARLEEN> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.197,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4971 Thanks to William, David & Brian, Three replies with the same answer. I was wondering about the Yaesu FT-879D but could not find any mods which covered that freq. Not looking for use at 136KHz but it would be a bonus, my JRC NRD-345 Rx is excellent at LF. Thanks again es 73, Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of PA0WFO Sent: 02 August 2006 21:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic Hello Gary , The Yaesu FT847 that I own is suitable for use at 70Mhz , HF 1.8-30Mhz ,50Mhz , VHF and UHF but is no longer in production . I think You can find it advertised second hand in Radcom . 73, William PA0WFO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: LF: 70 MHz - 4 Mtrs - off topic > Hi All, > > Sorry for the "off topic" subject. Just curious at the moment if anyone > knows if there is any HF/VHF/UHF multi-mode transceiver has or can be > modded > to Tx/Rx on the 70MHz/4 metre band. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212223405015619503 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 03ed4de2ee91a92c963588210c2f368a150be7c2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs109547qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr6248594nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si1089910nfc.2006.08.20.02.32.06; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjcW-0002c6-Cp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:29:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjcV-0002bx-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:29:27 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEjcR-0003ki-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:29:27 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by mwinf6009.orange.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 82F2B7000084 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:27:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060820092717536.82F2B7000084@mwinf6009.orange.nl From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:27:16 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <000801c6c435$39426080$58be3b3e@fujitsu> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.064,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: pa4vhf-qrss3-more power Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C6C44B.9776BB90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4979 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C6C44B.9776BB90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002D_01C6C44B.9776BB90" ------=_NextPart_001_002D_01C6C44B.9776BB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dick, not much difference at this distance,but it looks as if you moved 1 Hz up or so.Maby because of the extra heat? 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Dick Verzonden: zondag 20 augustus 2006 10:47 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: pa4vhf-qrss3-more power Victor, and others, increased the power. Running 1.5dB more now, wonder if that's visible. Dick ------=_NextPart_001_002D_01C6C44B.9776BB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Dick,
 
not=20 much difference at this distance,but it looks as if you moved 1 Hz up or = so.Maby=20 because of the extra heat?
 
73
Victor=20 PA3FNY
 
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens=20 Dick
Verzonden: zondag 20 augustus 2006 = 10:47
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: = pa4vhf-qrss3-more=20 power

Victor, and others, increased the = power. Running=20 1.5dB more now, wonder if that's visible.
 
Dick
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AFvL/d6z4vtT/kXRP9by/wB3q8rK00//2Q== ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C6C44B.9776BB90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211604107753909895 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dbcee24e2d3f13eda51451634851d79755843dda Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs171998qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 06:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr177715nfi; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 06:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si4295814nfa.2006.08.13.06.28.38; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 06:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCFxP-00045D-SG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:24:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4980 Thanks again Alan. I just finished a little call keyer, and now the test TX is transmitting on a dummyload for duration test. If things go right I will put a beacon on the air on 136.3kHz for some hours later this week. So people might keep an eye on this frequency. It will be slow CW 6-8 WPM. I'm just busy trying to find odd things in the set-up before taking it to Luxembourg later this year. Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212536833992362933 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d594f42e8f31bde5d83590f08f052b8fc32f51c4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs320051qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr2555407nfi; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si3027539nfe.2006.08.23.13.33.55; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzNt-0007yP-Tg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:31:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFzNt-0007yG-G9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:31:33 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFzNq-00019R-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:31:33 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.164.208) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 44EA9A9D00027C1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:31:25 +0200 Message-ID: <007c01c6c6f3$13c0e8c0$670024d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <002401c6c6ef$95212aa0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:31:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0634-1, 08/23/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.786,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: PA4VHF-DFCw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01C6C6F3.12EFDD20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4982 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C6C6F3.12EFDD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am very happy and surprised to be your first RPT from France Dick. QSL should arrive therefore very soon in your postbox! VY 73: Jeff =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: LF: PA4VHF-DFCw Well, thanks Ko, Sabine and Jeff for catching me on their screens. What about the frequenty, is it a bit too high? (to far away from = center of activety?) Glad to see the first report from France, Jeff. 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C6C6F3.12EFDD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 I am very = happy  and surprised to be your first RPT from = France=20 Dick.
 QSL = should arrive=20 therefore very soon in your postbox!
 
VY 73:=20 Jeff
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, = 2006 8:06=20 PM
Subject: LF: PA4VHF-DFCw

Well, thanks Ko, Sabine and Jeff for = catching me=20 on their screens.
 
What about the frequenty, is it a bit = too high?=20 (to far away from center of activety?)
 
Glad to see the first report from = France,=20 Jeff.
 
73
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C6C6F3.12EFDD20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212272627683721770 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d04460fa14b8b36f1f210e746fdab47d3275daf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs138963qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr6982202nfl; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si144623nfb.2006.08.20.15.34.29; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEvnG-0002LB-0j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:29:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEvnF-0002L2-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIB0K-0005fD-FZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:20:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIB0K-0005f4-1Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:20:16 +0100 Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIB0G-0002UB-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:20:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 327 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2006 21:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.7]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 29 Aug 2006 21:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c6cbb0$42de8600$27be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:14:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.111,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: activety 'poll/enquete' for LX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6CBC0.F0BB3D80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5003 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6CBC0.F0BB3D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, As you might know I'm planning to be QRV from LX on 136kHz in October. I will be one of the members of a group activating all HF bands = including WARC from LX. Therefore operating time on 136kHz is a bit limited, to certain time = slots or so. I want to be QRV at times that most people can operate on 136kHz in = order to use the time I have as efficient as possible. So, I have some questions to the LF operators across Europe and by = answering them=20 you can help me to plan the best operating times, modes and frequencies. 1. are you interested in working LX on 136kHz 2. which modes can you work? CW, QRSS and/or DFCW? 3. prefered operation times? you can give more times, best time at = first, etc. 4. if you have a Xtal controlled TX, please give the frequency. (I guess, if it's the case, mostly it might be 136.533kHz, = ROPEX-TX....) =20 Thanks sofar for your help. 73 Dick, PA4VHF for more info about LX-activety look at : www.pa6z.nl ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6CBC0.F0BB3D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
As you might know I'm planning to be = QRV from LX on=20 136kHz in October.
I will be one of the members of a group = activating=20 all HF bands including WARC
from LX.
Therefore operating time on 136kHz is a = bit=20 limited, to certain time slots or so.
 
I want to be QRV at times  that = most people=20 can operate on 136kHz in order to
use the time I have as efficient as=20 possible.
 
So, I have some questions to the LF = operators=20 across Europe and by answering them
you can help me to plan the=20 best operating times, modes and frequencies.
 
1.  are you interested in working = LX on=20 136kHz
2.  which modes can you = work? =20 CW, QRSS and/or DFCW?
3. prefered operation times?  you = can give=20 more times, best time at first, etc.
4. if you have a Xtal controlled = TX, please=20 give the frequency.
    (I guess, if it's = the case,=20 mostly it might be 136.533kHz, ROPEX-TX....)
 
Thanks sofar for your = help.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
 
 
for more info about LX-activety look at = :  www.pa6z.nl
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6CBC0.F0BB3D80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211722417158474538 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6bc7eba559c118e4a6b06c8d58bb732647d92ecd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs238700qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.94.20 with SMTP id w20mr1172727nfl; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si1618401nfa.2006.08.15.04.27.28; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCx0y-0000li-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:23:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCx0y-0000lZ-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:23:20 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCx0u-000677-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:23:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 18736 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 11:23:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.77.121 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 11:23:09 -0000 Message-ID: <00a301c6c05d$300281c0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <471.5a72900.3212f3ca@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:48:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.533 Subject: Re: LF: D2008 query Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5020 Hi Nigel, I am glad you finally got the move completed...what an epic !! Thanks for the thoughts, and it does seem as though you were unlucky with that 2008. My query was a idle one as I do not have one and I seemed to remember some discussion on the reflector in the past about the unit. Enjoy Scotland Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 15 August 2006 10:54 Subject: Re: LF: D2008 query > > In a message dated 14/08/2006 21:47:29 GMT Standard Time, > alan.melia@btinternet.com writes: > > > Alan G3NYK > > ------------------------snip > Hi All, > > I recently purchased a Siemens D2008 Level Meter (Pegelmesser) on eB*y > with the idea of trying out some VLF experiments. However, despite the > unit showing full health in the photos, it has arrived and now only > displays the decimal point in the freq display. > > > > Hi Alan > > I've got a 2008 and manual but both are in storage right now and access > would be extremely difficult, to put it mildly. > Although I've finally moved things are still a bit disorganised and I've not > got my own PC set up yet. > There may be something archived on there and I should have it running by the > weekend, so will check then and come back to you. > For what it's worth, my 2008 was an ebay purchase, bought as working some > time ago from the US, that also didn't work when received. > It wasn't very well packed and suffered a bit of external damage but the > main problem was internal. > During transit all the spot welds along the top edge of the internal sub > chassis for PCBs etc had come adrift and left it floating. > It will need to be stripped and drilled before attemping any further repair > and that will have to wait until I have more time, so I can't even claim any > experience yet of using it:-( > > regards > > Nigel > G8PZR > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211722417158474538 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5fb53945d1f14bdffb765da45933ac30afaeec9c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs236090qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr1088307nfg; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si363573nfa.2006.08.15.02.59.15; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCveE-0000Dn-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:55:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCveE-0000De-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:55:46 +0100 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCveB-0005WD-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:55:46 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.471.5a72900 (65098) for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:54:18 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: <471.5a72900.3212f3ca@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:54:18 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.125,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: D2008 query Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1155635658" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5021 -------------------------------1155635658 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 14/08/2006 21:47:29 GMT Standard Time, alan.melia@btinternet.com writes: Alan G3NYK ------------------------snip Hi All, I recently purchased a Siemens D2008 Level Meter (Pegelmesser) on eB*y with the idea of trying out some VLF experiments. However, despite the unit showing full health in the photos, it has arrived and now only displays the decimal point in the freq display. Hi Alan I've got a 2008 and manual but both are in storage right now and access would be extremely difficult, to put it mildly. Although I've finally moved things are still a bit disorganised and I've not got my own PC set up yet. There may be something archived on there and I should have it running by the weekend, so will check then and come back to you. For what it's worth, my 2008 was an ebay purchase, bought as working some time ago from the US, that also didn't work when received. It wasn't very well packed and suffered a bit of external damage but the main problem was internal. During transit all the spot welds along the top edge of the internal sub chassis for PCBs etc had come adrift and left it floating. It will need to be stripped and drilled before attemping any further repair and that will have to wait until I have more time, so I can't even claim any experience yet of using it:-( regards Nigel G8PZR -------------------------------1155635658 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 14/08/2006 21:47:29 GMT Standard Time,=20 alan.melia@btinternet.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Alan=20 G3NYK

------------------------snip
Hi All,

I recently=20 purchased a Siemens D2008 Level Meter (Pegelmesser) on eB*y
with the id= ea=20 of trying out some VLF experiments.  However, despite the
unit sho= wing=20 full health in the photos, it has arrived and now only
displays the dec= imal=20 point in the freq display.
Hi Alan
 
I've got a 2008 and manual but both are in storage right now and access= =20 would be extremely difficult, to put it mildly.
Although I've finally moved things are still a=20 bit disorganised and I've not got my own PC set up yet.
There may be something archived on there and I should ha= ve=20 it running by the weekend, so will check then and come back to you.
For what it's worth, my 2008 was an ebay purchase, bought as working so= me=20 time ago from the US, that also didn't work when received.
It wasn't very well packed and suffered a bit of external damage but th= e=20 main problem was internal.
During transit all the spot welds along the top edge of the intern= al=20 sub chassis for PCBs etc had come adrift and left it floating.
It will need to be stripped and drilled before attemping any further re= pair=20 and that will have to wait until I have more time, so I can't even claim any= =20 experience yet of using it:-(
 
regards
 
Nigel
G8PZR
-------------------------------1155635658-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211722417158474538 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5551b3c804e31f50b8651b1b15099eb1b066d995 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs216475qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr327900nfl; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si417019nfa.2006.08.14.13.49.07; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCjKw-0004fp-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:47:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCjKw-0004fg-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:47:02 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCjKr-0007dr-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:47:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 64411 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2006 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.85.246 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2006 20:46:51 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c6bfe2$c49a52c0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:46:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.716 Subject: LF: D2008 query Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5022 Hi all, the following appeared on the VLF group, can anyone help, If you dont have access the the VLF (Yahoo Group) I can post a reply back. Post message: VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com Alan G3NYK ------------------------snip Hi All, I recently purchased a Siemens D2008 Level Meter (Pegelmesser) on eB*y with the idea of trying out some VLF experiments. However, despite the unit showing full health in the photos, it has arrived and now only displays the decimal point in the freq display. Before I start any (possibly ugly and protracted) negotiations with the vendor, is there anyone on this group with some knowledge of this unit? Specifically: 1. Is there anything I need to do, apart from applying power, to get the unit into an operational state? 2. Can anyone suggest what it means to have only the DP lit in the frequency display? Is this a fault condition? 3. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the operator / service manual? Thanks for your help. Regards, David Smith VK3HZ ------end snip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212218642963411001 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c82771b27c1872d394cdf07042ab76c73ef6c2d1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs107917qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr6182392nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si621085nfc.2006.08.20.01.16.25; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiRX-0001T0-MG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:14:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiRX-0001Sr-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:14:03 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEiRU-0000La-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:14:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 29636 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 08:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.91]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 08:13:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c6c430$1c9d8f40$5bbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:10:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.106,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF-QRSS3-137.708kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C440.DF987720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5031 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C440.DF987720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right now, and will leave it on until 09ut or so About 200Watt, around 1,2-1.5 A antenna current 73 Dick, PA4VHF -JO32eh Nice too see a big difference Viktor! Might be due to the adsence of thunderstorm QRN too ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C440.DF987720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right now, and will leave it on until = 09ut or=20 so
 
About 200Watt, around 1,2-1.5 A antenna = current
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF -JO32eh
 
Nice too see a big difference = Viktor!
Might be due to the adsence of = thunderstorm QRN=20 too
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C440.DF987720-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212455571939883866 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d6a0c3dd91af68a133b206c9cc6a4d2afeb39e1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs266341qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr1169037nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si1267064nfe.2006.08.22.16.02.10; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfBs-0003el-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:57:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfBr-0003ec-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:57:47 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFfBn-0003cd-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:57:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 20161 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2006 22:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.3]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Aug 2006 22:56:32 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c6c63d$c1db0960$03be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:52:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.584,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,PLING_PLING=0.432 Subject: LF: THANKS!!! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C64E.6A3EFF20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5034 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C64E.6A3EFF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks guys for the nice evening! I worked 4 stations: PA3CPM o/o #6 M0BMU M/M PA3FNY O/O # 7 G3WCB M/M # 8=20 The QSO with G3WCB was remarkable, because it was the first time I = couldn't hear any sign of a carrier. I had to look at the screen to see what he was transmitting. Exciting to be able to watch an inaudiable signal! This was really fun. Hmm, I'm sure I'll do this again one of these days, hi 73 Dick, PA4VHF (JO32eh) I was running abt 350 Watt output, into simple T-antenna, 6m vertical, = 7m horizontal. That was also my RX antenna, not optimal, but it worked Antenna is surrounded by houses...... ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C64E.6A3EFF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks guys for the nice = evening!
 
I worked 4 stations:
 
PA3CPM o/o #6
M0BMU  M/M
PA3FNY O/O # 7
G3WCB M/M # 8
 
The QSO with G3WCB was remarkable, = because it was=20 the first time I couldn't hear any sign of a carrier.
I had to look at the screen to see what = he was=20 transmitting.
Exciting to be able to watch an = inaudiable=20 signal!
 
This was really fun.
 
Hmm, I'm sure I'll do this again one of = these days,=20 hi
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF (JO32eh)
 
 
I was running abt 350 Watt output, into = simple=20 T-antenna, 6m vertical, 7m horizontal.
That was also my RX antenna, not = optimal, but it=20 worked
Antenna is surrounded by=20 houses......
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C64E.6A3EFF20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210938488192594277 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fe9b737f4be08be34951ff82e556129e3762ca1d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178324qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr7133334nfj; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si4438586nfb.2006.08.05.22.23.50; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9b5K-0006Rc-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:21:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9b5K-0006RT-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:21:58 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s5.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.77]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9b5G-00050b-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:21:58 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W22 ([207.46.11.185]) by bay0-omc1-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:21:26 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "J. Allen" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:21:26 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 05:21:26.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A4338C0:01C6B918] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.004,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_72324ab9-b02d-4fbd-96c3-052878b3fbba_" Subject: RE: LF: Want a QSY? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5036 --_72324ab9-b02d-4fbd-96c3-052878b3fbba_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay where you are - Steves doing the safe thing and staying off - so youll = be it. Thanks =20 Laurence (understood steve - Im waiting for someones comment about a loop.....) :-)= ) Off for a Latte. > From: vy1ja@northwestel.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun,= 6 Aug 2006 05:06:12 +0000> Subject: LF: Want a QSY?> > Laurence,> > If you= prefer, VY1JA can QSY ~0.6 Hz. up from Steve's signal, say ~755.8> or shou= ld the beacon stay where it is. > > J.> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_72324ab9-b02d-4fbd-96c3-052878b3fbba_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Jay where you are - Steves doing the safe thing and staying off - so = youll be it. Thanks
 
Laurence
(understood steve - Im waiting for someones comment about a loop.....) = ; :-)) Off for a Latte.







> From: vy1ja@northwestel.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:06:12 +0000
> Subject: LF: Want a QSY= ?
>
> Laurence,
>
> If you prefer, = ;VY1JA can QSY ~0.6 Hz. up from Steve's&= nbsp;signal, say ~755.8
> or should the beac= on stay where it is.  
>
> J.>
>
>



Be one of the first to try Wind= ows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.= =0A= = --_72324ab9-b02d-4fbd-96c3-052878b3fbba_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210938488192594277 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9b786842a5027b976846501278b40f49fb14429e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178191qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr7140563nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si4401104nfb.2006.08.05.22.08.54; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aqf-000683-W3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:06:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aqf-00067u-Jb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:06:49 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9aqb-0004xX-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:06:49 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id D60652544F for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <005e01c6b916$0975ec20$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:06:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.059,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Want a QSY? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5037 Laurence, If you prefer, VY1JA can QSY ~0.6 Hz. up from Steve's signal, say ~755.8 or should the beacon stay where it is. J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211646925808505536 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 39bca9c03d98359f091934b60bfe12f5199f1292 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs183865qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr688883nfj; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si5000181nfc.2006.08.13.17.49.12; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCQZ1-0007Ao-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:44:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCQZ0-0007Af-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:44:19 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.92]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCQYw-00026a-Bm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:44:18 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W6 ([207.46.11.169]) by bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:44:07 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.118] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:44:07 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2006 00:44:07.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFEF3090:01C6BF3A] X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.366,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_beefa6aa-81db-46f5-8a4a-505592414622_" Subject: LF: overnight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5049 --_beefa6aa-81db-46f5-8a4a-505592414622_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Signals from EU in the small nighttime window were poorer last night. DCF39= was some -10dB on the previous nights best but still CW audible. Fade peri= ods were shorter than of late at around 5 mins - LW broadcast stations were= n't listenable but were there. QRN was moderate with the normal tropical eq= uatorial storms noiz. =20 Ill keep the rx on again tonight - both for my dusk West Coast Americas and= my pre dawn European window. I had some spare time to kill yesterday afte= rnoon so I built another PA0RDT probe - this one has a zig zag copper foil= pattern aerial (using a sharp wide blade to cut in to the copper clad, but= the same dimension as the first and it looks like its added a couple of dB= s but not improved the s/n. To improve noize reduction from my external pow= er supplies (common mode) into the probe Ive increased the inductor size to= around 900uH feeding the power up the centre of the coax- this has cleared= a lot of the residual lines - that and replacing the Dell SMPSU that comes= with the D610 with another one I bought here giving only 12V @ 5A instead = of the 19V - again this has eliminated the bad squiggles. VLF performance i= s good and I start to hear sigs (qrn) over noiz at around 8.5KHz =20 Thanks for the signals - till tonight =20 Laurence, in 9V1 OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_beefa6aa-81db-46f5-8a4a-505592414622_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Signals from EU in the small nighttime window were poorer last night.= DCF39 was some -10dB on the previous nights best but still CW audible. Fad= e periods were shorter than of late at around 5 mins - LW broadcast station= s weren't listenable but were there. QRN was moderate with the normal tropi= cal equatorial storms noiz.
 
Ill keep the rx on again tonight - both for my dusk West Coast Americas and= my pre dawn European window. I had  some spare time to kill yesterday= afternoon so I built another PA0RDT  probe - this one has a zig zag c= opper foil pattern aerial (using a sharp wide blade to cut in to the copper= clad, but the same dimension as the first and it looks like its added= a couple of dBs but not improved the s/n. To improve noize reduction from = my external power supplies (common mode) into the probe Ive increased = the inductor size to around 900uH feeding the power up the centre of = the coax- this has cleared a lot of the residual lines - that and replacing= the Dell SMPSU that comes with the D610 with another one I bought here giv= ing only 12V @ 5A instead of the 19V - again this ha= s eliminated the bad squiggles. VLF performance is good and I start to= hear sigs (qrn) over noiz at around 8.5KHz
 
Thanks for the signals - till tonight
 
Laurence, in 9V1
OJ11


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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.7.203 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 08:28:13 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.10.10/418]); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:25:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c6c044$54706900$cb077ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001401c6bfcc$56290400$75be3b3e@fujitsu> <001301c6bfe1$e657d320$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:25:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.614 Subject: LF: Re: Re: antenna current meter troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5062 Dear Dick, LF Group, There are some odd problems you can get with an RF ammeter connected at a high voltage point in the circuit. One is stray capacitance to ground. With several kV of RF, even 1pF of stray capacitance will allow several mA to flow. This can cause large errors, especially if you are using the current transformer/load resistor/diode voltmeter type RF ammeter, where the AC currents in the diode voltmeter part are small. The solution is to enclose all the RF ammeter circuit in a metal screen, connected to one end of the single turn primary of the current transformer. The "ground" side of the secondary is also connected to the screen. In this way, there are only a few volts of RF between components inside the screen, and the stray capacitance has little effect. The high electric field can also have funny effects on the meter movement itself, with the resulting electrostatic forces causing the needle to be deflected, or to stick. This is more likely to be a problem with plastic cased meters, especially if the internal metal parts of the meter movement are not connected to one of the meter terminals. Such a meter will also effectively be a large hole in any screen that is added - I suppose you could cover the meter face with wire mesh. I suppose that if the meter is very close to the loading coil, the magnetic field of the coil could induce significant EMF in the wiring of the meter circuit, giving rise to the same sort of errors as stray capacitance. A screening enclosure should also cure this problem. If the meter is close enough to the coil to significantly change the resonant frequency of the system, or gets significantly heated by the RF field, that is probably too close... You can put the ammeter in the low-voltage end of the circuit - take care to connect it at a point where all the earth return current will flow through the meter (this might not be easy). The meter will read high, due to the additional current to ground via the stray capacitance of the coil. With a big antenna, this arrangement will give little error. With a small antenna, and a big coil, this error can be quite large. The magnetic field of the coil is much the same at the ground end as at the "hot" end, so this might still be a problem. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Melia To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: LF: Re: antenna current meter troubles > Hi Dick I am not sure what the mechanism is. Jim seems to think it is RF > getting into the diode and meter circuitry of the secondary, but I am not > sure. I have not had enough power to experiment with this, and compare with > a thermoammeter. You might try sticking the meter at the bottom of the coil > to ground the same current should flow there. Otherwise assumings its a > magnetic effect on the ferrite.....what about 2 coil diameters away at least > ?? > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813783828359973 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 64ea300b63ce57e7d410b19af931421a3e4e72c8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs281040qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr395660nfk; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si3228906nfc.2006.08.16.01.22.11; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDGYK-0002GG-DT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:15:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDGYJ-0002G7-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:15:03 +0100 Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDGYC-0007kT-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:15:03 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GDGY5-0006le-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:14:49 +0100 Message-ID: <005301c6c10c$0abb6760$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:14:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5063 Hi Dick, Sorry, I meant to paste in the URL for the Basic Program. Here it is. http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/QRSS.BAS 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to TX QRSS with a computer? 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813783828359973 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 141d9f3b2f0ed0ba92d69e3293706c45cd352814 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs280537qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.20.5 with SMTP id x5mr118635nfi; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si3178755nfc.2006.08.16.01.02.49; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDGFf-000203-Gh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:55:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDGFe-0001zu-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:55:46 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDGFa-0006Ve-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:55:46 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GDGCQ-0004Nn-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c6c108$ea4ea6c0$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:52:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.428 Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5064 Hi Dick, I wrote and used a QBASIC program to send QRSS morse. QBASIC is supplied free with Windows 98SE and earlier computers. (You will find it on the Windows disk even if it hasn't been installed) Morse is output via pin 2 on the printer port 5V=TX on 0V=TX off. It is certainly simple - you can edit it yourself - and at 10 kilobytes long it is probably smaller than any "Windows" software. 73 Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to TX QRSS with a computer? 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211813783828359973 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ffa7e274513652781e911a403e15a674211aa55e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs264332qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr1873434nfv; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si2419218nfb.2006.08.15.14.01.21; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zk-0005WG-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5zk-0005W7-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:40 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GD5zg-0002PN-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:58:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 45248 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 20:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.45.134 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 20:58:29 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.10.10/418]); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:55:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c6c0ad$2589c960$862d8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:55:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.956,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C0B5.873440C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5065 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C0B5.873440C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dick, LF Group, ON7YD's "QRS" is the industry standard - it can be downloaded from = G3YXM's site at: http://www.wireless.org.uk/software.htm The current version is about 400k. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: LF: simple QRSS software Where can I find a simple, and not too large to download programm to = TX QRSS with a computer? =20 73 =20 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C0B5.873440C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dick, LF Group,
 
ON7YD's "QRS" is the industry standard = - it can be=20 downloaded from G3YXM's site at: http://www.wireless.org.= uk/software.htm
The current version is about = 400k.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 = 9:38=20 PM
Subject: LF: simple QRSS = software

Where can I find a simple, and not = too large to=20 download programm to TX QRSS with a computer?
 
73
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6C0B5.873440C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936822744251116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8cf9c6c17300ac788fc5a749a5ac4d9515adf244 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs185621qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr165164nfi; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si4771745nfb.2006.08.06.05.28.09; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9hgc-0000JG-59 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:24:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9hgb-0000J7-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:24:53 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.87]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9hgX-0006Mb-DW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:24:53 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W2 ([207.46.11.165]) by bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:24:43 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "J. Allen" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 04:24:43 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 12:24:43.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BE7BBA0:01C6B953] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.003,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8566154e-05b5-4c77-8fa5-5c37ff475a49_" Subject: RE: LF: VY1JA Beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5071 --_8566154e-05b5-4c77-8fa5-5c37ff475a49_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay - nothing decipherable at your pre dawn - bit more noize than last nigh= t but still not bad. =20 Laurence in OJ11- now turning the beam towards Europe.....:-)) > From: vy1ja@northwestel.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun,= 6 Aug 2006 04:39:34 +0000> Subject: LF: VY1JA Beacon> > Laurence, and Frie= nds,> > VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W tonight.> > Steve is ver= y likely correct, and I do not expect that you will even get a > peep from = here, but I appreciate that you are thinking about this beacon.> > The powe= r level should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts by Wednesday > evening, but= that is likely still 3dB below 1W ierp. As soon as that amp > gets going,= the antenna current meter's number works it way to the top of > the pile. = The meter will be needed to calculate the size of the final amp.> > Contin= ued thanks to everyone who has been sending summer captures and/or > beacon= signal reports.> > J.> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_8566154e-05b5-4c77-8fa5-5c37ff475a49_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Jay - nothing decipherable at your pre dawn - bit more noize than las= t night but still not bad.
 
Laurence in OJ11- now turning the beam towards Europe.....:-))


<= BR>



> From: vy1ja@northwestel.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 04:39:34 +0000
> Subject: LF: VY1JA Beac= on
>
> Laurence, and Friends,
>
> VY1JA=  beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W&nb= sp;tonight.
>
> Steve is very likely corre= ct, and I do not expect that you wi= ll even get a 
> peep from here, b= ut I appreciate that you are thinking ab= out this beacon.
>
> The power level = should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts&= nbsp;by Wednesday 
> evening, but that is&nb= sp;likely still 3dB below 1W ierp.  As&n= bsp;soon as that amp 
> gets going, the=  antenna current meter's number works it = ;way to the top of 
> the pile. &n= bsp;The meter will be needed to calculate&nbs= p;the size of the final amp.
>
> Cont= inued thanks to everyone who has been se= nding summer captures and/or 
> beacon signa= l reports.
>
> J.
>  
>
>
>= ;



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It's free!=0A= = --_8566154e-05b5-4c77-8fa5-5c37ff475a49_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936822744251116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3500d8d62ce34d692696c8cc26321a37d1b0df8c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178249qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr791706nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4416373nfe.2006.08.05.22.16.06; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ay3-0006LT-2P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:14:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9ay2-0006LK-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:14:26 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9axy-0005zN-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:14:26 +0100 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.05.01.01 201-2174-106-103-20060222) with ESMTP id <20060806051420.WKLS4270.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:14:20 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id ADNPKX7SFE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:14:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44D57AAB.7070808@telus.net> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:14:19 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004a01c6b912$5146c460$6501a8c0@eagles> In-Reply-To: <004a01c6b912$5146c460$6501a8c0@eagles> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.899,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: VY1JA Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5072 J. Those IRF640 won't handle 200W. The slightest discontinuity and they'll go... Scott J. Allen wrote: > Laurence, and Friends, > > VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W tonight. > > Steve is very likely correct, and I do not expect that you will even > get a peep from here, but I appreciate that you are thinking about > this beacon. > > The power level should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts by Wednesday > evening, but that is likely still 3dB below 1W ierp. As soon as that > amp gets going, the antenna current meter's number works it way to the > top of the pile. The meter will be needed to calculate the size of > the final amp. > > Continued thanks to everyone who has been sending summer captures > and/or beacon signal reports. > > J. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936822744251116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a95876e5c87b6f2653e45a36613e6cea02b77571 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178210qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr5919318nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si1055289nfa.2006.08.05.22.12.06; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9atc-0006Cz-0M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:09:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9atb-0006Cq-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:09:51 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9atX-0004yM-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:09:51 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi91.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.96]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 95299B683A for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01c6b916$1771f080$6011f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:06:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.605,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VY1JA Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6B8DB.6A6B3FC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5073 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6B8DB.6A6B3FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence I have decided that I really cannot take the chance of an arc = at this tinder-dry time. Although an arc is unlikely, it would certainly = cause some catastrophic results, non of which I would care to be = responsible for !! Steve Pray for rain before you go. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6B8DB.6A6B3FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence I have decided that I really cannot = take the=20 chance of an arc at this tinder-dry time. Although an arc is unlikely, = it would=20 certainly cause some catastrophic results, non of which I would care to = be=20 responsible for !!
 
Steve
 
Pray for rain before you = go.
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6B8DB.6A6B3FC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936822744251116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9c29bbbe2bfe3a573529ca5b02e163d1154bf0d3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs177953qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr7165843nfe; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si4388532nfc.2006.08.05.21.51.30; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aZC-0005xq-R8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:48:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aZC-0005xh-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:48:46 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9aZ8-0005t2-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:48:46 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W9 ([207.46.11.172]) by bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:48:35 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "J. Allen" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:48:35 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2006 04:48:35.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[93A35570:01C6B913] X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.059,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d46858c2-7644-43a3-964a-f462a78b774b_" Subject: RE: LF: VY1JA Beacon X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5074 --_d46858c2-7644-43a3-964a-f462a78b774b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok thanks Jay 778.4 for you and 755.2 for Steve (hopefully, bush fires foregoing). Never = say never! Ill have to have two Argo captures open on the pc here, so part = of the grabs will be black on the web site - This PC doesnt deal with resi= zing like my old IBM did so, and the registry is will locked up. =20 We have a couple of lunchtime equatorial tstorms around the area - but hope= fully they will subside by dusk. LaurenceOh Jay won won > From: vy1ja@northwestel.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun,= 6 Aug 2006 04:39:34 +0000> Subject: LF: VY1JA Beacon> > Laurence, and Frie= nds,> > VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W tonight.> > Steve is ver= y likely correct, and I do not expect that you will even get a > peep from = here, but I appreciate that you are thinking about this beacon.> > The powe= r level should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts by Wednesday > evening, but= that is likely still 3dB below 1W ierp. As soon as that amp > gets going,= the antenna current meter's number works it way to the top of > the pile. = The meter will be needed to calculate the size of the final amp.> > Contin= ued thanks to everyone who has been sending summer captures and/or > beacon= signal reports.> > J.> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_d46858c2-7644-43a3-964a-f462a78b774b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Ok thanks Jay
778.4 for you and 755.2 for Steve (hopefully, bush fires foregoing). Never = say never! Ill have to have two Argo captures open on the pc here, so part = of the grabs will be black on the web site -  This PC doesnt deal with= resizing like my old IBM did so, and the registry is will locked up.
 
We have a couple of lunchtime equatorial tstorms around the area - but hope= fully they will subside by dusk.

Laurence
Oh Jay won won





> From: vy1ja@northwestel.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 04:39:34 +0000
> Subject: LF: VY1JA Beac= on
>
> Laurence, and Friends,
>
> VY1JA=  beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W&nb= sp;tonight.
>
> Steve is very likely corre= ct, and I do not expect that you wi= ll even get a 
> peep from here, b= ut I appreciate that you are thinking ab= out this beacon.
>
> The power level = should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts&= nbsp;by Wednesday 
> evening, but that is&nb= sp;likely still 3dB below 1W ierp.  As&n= bsp;soon as that amp 
> gets going, the=  antenna current meter's number works it = ;way to the top of 
> the pile. &n= bsp;The meter will be needed to calculate&nbs= p;the size of the final amp.
>
> Cont= inued thanks to everyone who has been se= nding summer captures and/or 
> beacon signa= l reports.
>
> J.
>  
>
>
>= ;



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It's free!=0A= = --_d46858c2-7644-43a3-964a-f462a78b774b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210936822744251116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 24ee5d9d847cfc0cbd4a82129ae7b1b51e563046 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs177796qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.94.20 with SMTP id w20mr24003nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si4397768nfc.2006.08.05.21.42.25; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aQU-0005pW-DY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:39:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9aQU-0005pN-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:39:46 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9aQP-0004u6-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:39:45 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 701952544F for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <004a01c6b912$5146c460$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 04:39:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.061,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: VY1JA Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5075 Laurence, and Friends, VY1JA beacon is on ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100 W tonight. Steve is very likely correct, and I do not expect that you will even get a peep from here, but I appreciate that you are thinking about this beacon. The power level should go up to somewhat over 200 Watts by Wednesday evening, but that is likely still 3dB below 1W ierp. As soon as that amp gets going, the antenna current meter's number works it way to the top of the pile. The meter will be needed to calculate the size of the final amp. Continued thanks to everyone who has been sending summer captures and/or beacon signal reports. J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211447219938432696 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cd9bf37f1798d57da2066f66af610db728d43323 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs126156qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr4219347nfh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si4280787nfe.2006.08.11.12.54.58; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBd0a-0000ud-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:49:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBd0Z-0000uU-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:49:27 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBd0V-0005mB-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:49:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 2404 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2006 19:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.99]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 11 Aug 2006 19:49:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:45:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.685,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BD8F.6D1E19A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5080 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BD8F.6D1E19A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, In order to test my 136kHz TX at home, I just have installed a toploaded = wire in the backgarden. It measured only 135pF, which is too low, because need around 10mH to = get that running on 136...... System is as follows: 2 wires each 7.5m long mounted parallel (spacing 30cm), at both ends = connected together, and in the center connected together. >From the center an about 7m long wire goes vertical downward to the TX. Any suggestions how to get more capacitance in the air? I am limited in options, because the topload has an maximum length of = 7.5m, and maximum width of 1m. Some ideas I have: -opening up the ends -adding a third wire in de middle, feed it there and then bending the = rest, a kind of Z-shapped topload, center fed. Would be happy to get 40 - 50pF extra up in the air....... 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BD8F.6D1E19A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
In order to test my 136kHz TX at home, = I just have=20 installed a toploaded wire in the backgarden.
 
It measured only 135pF, which is too = low, because=20 need around 10mH to get that running on 136......
 
System is as follows:
 
2 wires each 7.5m long mounted parallel = (spacing=20 30cm), at both ends connected together, and in
the center connected = together.
From the center an about 7m long wire = goes vertical=20 downward to the TX.
 
Any suggestions how to get more = capacitance in the=20 air?
 
I am limited in options, because the = topload has an=20 maximum length of 7.5m, and maximum width of 1m.
 
Some ideas I have:
 
-opening up the ends
-adding a third wire in de middle, feed = it there=20 and then bending the rest, a kind of Z-shapped topload, center = fed.
 
Would be happy to get 40 - 50pF extra = up in the=20 air.......
 
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BD8F.6D1E19A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210941495931789253 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e46aa967fa7347bfb80b2a2d24fd91a5d596b417 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs179035qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr7229305nfh; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si4484269nfc.2006.08.05.23.24.31; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9c1j-0006xL-6U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:22:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9c1i-0006xC-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:22:18 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9c1f-0006Gv-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:22:18 +0100 Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.05.01.01 201-2174-106-103-20060222) with ESMTP id <20060806062203.YBGD4270.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 00:22:03 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 61EFM38MQ6 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 00:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44D58A8B.5010806@telus.net> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:22:03 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005001c6b913$cdd540a0$6501a8c0@eagles> <44D57E40.1000201@telus.net> <008301c6b91c$a1f2bae0$6501a8c0@eagles> In-Reply-To: <008301c6b91c$a1f2bae0$6501a8c0@eagles> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.885,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Amp led on Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5081 J. by high impedance I mean that a wire is likely broken off leading to a gate input in the logic resulting in an active state... Check you wiring and operation of the logic... Scott J. Allen wrote: > Scott, > > I am sorry that it is necessary for you to repeat things to me. My > memory has improved, but still has holes in it. For some reason, I > keep re-solving the problems instead of remembering the correct > answers. Please bear with me, and I am sure that you will be able to > guide me to a working amp at 1W ierp. I just hope it happens before I > drive you nuts. > > Ok... first, I need to get your amp going and get the new problem > worked out of the overcurrent circuit. The newly wound output > transformer did not get a chance to transmit today. The transmitter > was powered up by first turning on the 5 and 12 Volt auxiliary > supplies, and the LED immediately came on, so the FET supply was left > off until I can find out what is wrong there and fix it. > > You mentioned that noise could be causing the overcurrent circuit to > act up. Should I try putting bypass capacitors to ground on the 5 and > 12 Volt inputs? This may reduce possible noise from the power supply > lines. > > When the amp works into the dummy, the tap is adjusted for 100 Watts > output, or else I drag out a blanket with which to make smoke signals. > > Thanks... > > J. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210941495931789253 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 16372354fc5859758bede42d19e1aaa651c252a1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs178744qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr7173470nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si4462288nfb.2006.08.05.22.56.42; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9baO-0006jy-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:54:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9baO-0006jp-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:54:04 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9baI-00055k-SZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:54:03 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 0476C6D044; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:59:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <008301c6b91c$a1f2bae0$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "Scott Tilley" , "LF \(RSGB\)" References: <005001c6b913$cdd540a0$6501a8c0@eagles> <44D57E40.1000201@telus.net> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:53:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.057,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Amp led on Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5082 Scott, I am sorry that it is necessary for you to repeat things to me. My memory has improved, but still has holes in it. For some reason, I keep re-solving the problems instead of remembering the correct answers. Please bear with me, and I am sure that you will be able to guide me to a working amp at 1W ierp. I just hope it happens before I drive you nuts. Ok... first, I need to get your amp going and get the new problem worked out of the overcurrent circuit. The newly wound output transformer did not get a chance to transmit today. The transmitter was powered up by first turning on the 5 and 12 Volt auxiliary supplies, and the LED immediately came on, so the FET supply was left off until I can find out what is wrong there and fix it. You mentioned that noise could be causing the overcurrent circuit to act up. Should I try putting bypass capacitors to ground on the 5 and 12 Volt inputs? This may reduce possible noise from the power supply lines. When the amp works into the dummy, the tap is adjusted for 100 Watts output, or else I drag out a blanket with which to make smoke signals. Thanks... J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212319358257761691 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b496080313d6e34e6cd2d3d82542fbd238843a25 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs161993qbh; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr7566958nfi; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si134531nfb.2006.08.21.03.57.14; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GF7OL-0000Ln-SM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:52:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GF7OJ-0000LX-9r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:52:23 +0100 Received: from smtpout0189.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.189] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GF7OF-00064a-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:52:23 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.98) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF9003405A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:52:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c6c50f$d9810350$62e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <001801c6c2df$b92f7af0$42e4fc3e@g3kev> <001301c6c479$de681d90$6401a8c0@derekm3uttnxf9> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:09:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.967 Subject: LF: Re: Re: decca socket Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5085 ----- Original Message ----- From: "DEREK ATTER" To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: LF: Re: decca socket > Mal, > > I am pretty sure from looking at the illustration in my RS catalogue that > the Decca 5501 module socket is the same as RS socket part number 447-112. > I will however have a look if there is one still lurking around in the > cupboard in the Crawley Clubhouse during meeting next Wednesday. > > 73, Derek Atter G3GRO Thanks Derek. Nice to hear from you after a long time, hpe u are keeping well and if u come across a socket let me know. Any postage/expense involved will be refunded. agn tnx de Mal/Scarboro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: "rsgb" > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:59 PM > Subject: LF: decca socket > > > > Hi All > > Does anyone know where I can get a 24 pin decca 5501 module socket. I need > > one for outboard experiments with a module. Other 24 pin sockets/plugs > > used > > with ancillary decca equipment although looking the same have different > > contact spacing. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210821511678493856 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c39dc892a8b104b26e129730f8169b9962854a24 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149716qbh; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr6045923nfj; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si1021965nfa.2006.08.04.15.09.36; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G97nC-0006RE-AH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:05:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G97nB-0006R5-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:05:17 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G97n8-00068v-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:05:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 3012 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 22:04:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.62.195 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 22:04:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c6b811$f77c2160$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:03:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.573 Subject: LF: RFI has its uses !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5086 I have been complaining about sporadic strong SMPS interference for the last couple of months. And when it came up again the other day I decided to put up WinRad and connect an untuned 24 turn 80cm diam loop to the sound card input and see if I could find where it was. I realised I was getting a signal from my second PC at about 35kHz, this machine has never produced any in-band (136kHz) interference since new, and the peak looked clean. I switched it off to make the job easier, and ......yes the interference disappeared. Thinks.....why.....so I switched it on again and put my hand round the back at the top. The PSU area was very hot and there was no "blow" from the fan. Obviously the frequency only drifted into band when the fan stopped, and the PSU got overheated, so I didn't relate the interference to putting that PC on. The PSU was dropped out and opened and sure enough the cheapo fan was locked solid on seized "bearings". QuicK swap for a spare fan (I keep several lying around and some old AT PSUs) Switch on ....nice quiet machine....no groaning...and no QRM in 136. I suppose the fan has done quite well really that PC is about 3 years old and you are expected to change them every 18 months !! only I am too mean !! Motto..... Check at home before blaming the neighbours and check the PSU fans. If I had not spotted that I might have got very overheated (that is the machine that runs the T/A captures overnight) and possibly corrupted a disc. The thing was that the signal did not drift into 136 until the P had been on for some time and heated up.....so I didnt think it was causing a problem. I still have the weaker TV qrm to deal with and the one FMing its PSU but I can hear signals again now. The noise even overpowered Rugby Loran-C. Interestingly the ATX PSU did not have an encapsulated filtered IEC input connector but did have a filer on a small pcb mounted over the plug, which probably accounts for its generally acceptable behaviour. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212051013052211625 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 01639a66acceb1e8453f1cf3e74cdaa424abf219 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs15715qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr3900553nfj; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si454289nfe.2006.08.18.04.52.00; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GE2p0-0003r2-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:47:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 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(Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCzPS-0007K6-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:56:49 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by mwinf6009.orange.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id F1103700008E for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:56:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060815135630987.F1103700008E@mwinf6009.orange.nl From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:56:25 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000e01c6c06e$8bb70200$09be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.067,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF testing agn 136.30kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C083.5CAEB4C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5091 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C083.5CAEB4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick, audio 136.3 KHz 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Dick Verzonden: dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 15:27 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: PA4VHF testing agn 136.30kHz starts around 13.30utc; also some higher powered tests planned Dick 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Dick,
 
audio=20 136.3 KHz
 
73=20
Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens=20 Dick
Verzonden: dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 = 15:27
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: PA4VHF testing = agn=20 136.30kHz

starts around 13.30utc; also some = higher powered=20 tests planned
 
Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6C083.5CAEB4C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211095404526520282 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 857615dcecad53fdb69a46af11236f59a8dfc2af Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs280qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr95053nff; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si69334nfc.2006.08.07.17.12.16; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAF9A-0003Uc-SQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAF9A-0003UT-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:36 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.103]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GAF94-0006KK-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:08:36 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W3 ([207.46.11.166]) by bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:08:20 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "James Moritz" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:08:20 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2006 00:08:20.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1E34320:01C6BA7E] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.022,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b8e4d212-6cc4-439e-8d93-497a8b5e3171_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: Time X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5094 --_b8e4d212-6cc4-439e-8d93-497a8b5e3171_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim/all - thanks for the sigs - the geomag has knocked off 25dB off DCF39 w= hen I checked at 2200z, so not surprisingly nothing seen over the path this= morning - Ive got the noise reduced (from the computer and PSU) by not usi= ng the low level audio from the back of the R75, but using the extension sp= eaker socket which introduces less noise, that and keeping the Dells extern= al power reduced from 19V to 12V, and using a different locally purchased P= SU is producing good results. =20 =20 =20 Laurence OJ11 From: james.moritz@btopenworld.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Mon= , 7 Aug 2006 23:35:56 +0100Subject: LF: Re: Time Dear Laurence, LF Group, =20 M0BMU is now (2227utc) QRV centered on 136.3205kHz in DFCW60 for the next c= ouple of hours. =20 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL1X=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: LF: Time So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show GMT - Looking again = tonight on 136.320 KHz +-4Hz dot30slow Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce= its smpsu noise by replacing it with a different non dell 12v device and i= ts reduced the noise a lot (ie less than s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now = can I do the same thing with these pesky tstorms peaking 10 over. Laurence = Oh JAy won wonSIngaporeGMT +8http://kl1x.com With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more.= It's free! It's free!=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_b8e4d212-6cc4-439e-8d93-497a8b5e3171_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Jim/all - thanks for the sigs - the geomag has knocked off 25dB off <= FONT>DCF39 when I checked at 2200z, so not surprisingly nothing seen= over the path this morning - Ive got the noise reduced (from the computer = and PSU) by not using the low level audio from the back of the R75, but usi= ng the extension speaker socket which introduces less noise, that and keepi= ng the Dells external power reduced from 19V to 12V, and using a different = locally purchased PSU is producing good results.
 
 
 
Laurence OJ11






From: james.moritz@btopenworld.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:35:56 +0100
Subject: LF: Re: Time

Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU is now (2227utc) QRV centered on 136.3205kHz = in DFCW60 for the next couple of hours.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
----- Original Message -----
= From: Laurence KL1X
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:15 P= M
Subject: LF: Time

So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show GMT -= Looking again tonight on 136.320  KHz +-4Hz  dot30slow
 =
Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce its smpsu noise by replacing it with= a different non dell 12v device and its reduced the noise a lot (ie less t= han s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now can I do the same thing with these pe= sky tstorms peaking 10 over.
 
Laurence Oh JAy won won
SIngap= ore
GMT +8
http://kl1x.c= om


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more.= It's free! It's fre= e!


With MSN Spaces email straight= to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! It's free!=0A= = --_b8e4d212-6cc4-439e-8d93-497a8b5e3171_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211095404526520282 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a6a39337e5fd4f362d9b4172b9f0b572c8ba43ad Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs221552qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr32344nfj; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2149nfa.2006.08.07.15.43.01; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GADkT-0002r5-RB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:39:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GADkT-0002qw-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:39:01 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GADkO-00062n-29 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:39:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 92566 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2006 22:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.100.39?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.100.39 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2006 22:38:49 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.10.7/410]); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:35:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c6ba71$d93f1a60$27647ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:35:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.657,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Time Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6BA7A.3AC986A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5095 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6BA7A.3AC986A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Laurence, LF Group, M0BMU is now (2227utc) QRV centered on 136.3205kHz in DFCW60 for the = next couple of hours. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL1X=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: LF: Time So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show GMT - Looking = again tonight on 136.320 KHz +-4Hz dot30slow =20 Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce its smpsu noise by replacing it = with a different non dell 12v device and its reduced the noise a lot (ie = less than s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now can I do the same thing with = these pesky tstorms peaking 10 over. =20 Laurence Oh JAy won won SIngapore GMT +8 http://kl1x.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more. It's free! It's free!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6BA7A.3AC986A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU is now (2227utc) QRV centered on = 136.3205kHz in=20 DFCW60 for the next couple of hours.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL1X
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 = 2:15=20 PM
Subject: LF: Time

So as not to confuse Ive changed my Argo clock to show = GMT -=20 Looking again tonight on 136.320  KHz +-4Hz=20  dot30slow
 
Ive persuaded the laptop to reduce its = smpsu=20 noise by replacing it with a different non dell 12v device and its = reduced the=20 noise a lot (ie less than s1 with the R75 preamp 1 on). Now can I do = the same=20 thing with these pesky tstorms peaking 10=20 over.
 
Laurence Oh JAy won won
SIngapore
GMT = +8
http://kl1x.com


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more.=20 It's free! It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6BA7A.3AC986A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212218844647145167 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f98c673a4231fb850f456d1cc1fe4839bfddc7c9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs107994qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr6177212nff; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si561033nfc.2006.08.20.01.19.37; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiVN-0001cS-Nf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:18:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEiVN-0001cJ-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:18:01 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEiVI-0003LI-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:18:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 30583 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 08:17:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.91]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 08:17:47 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c6c430$aba61360$5bbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:14:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.406,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: PA4VHF-137.708 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C441.6EB1C420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5115 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C441.6EB1C420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really don't know what's happening Viktor. Yes, I run more power than yesterday, but only 1-1.5dB more or so. Antenna current is just a little bit more. I can crank up the power by another 3-4dB........ But I want to stay in safe area, hi. Thanks again for monitoring! Dick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Victor van kooten=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF-137.708=20 High power Dick?? 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C441.6EB1C420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I really don't know what's happening=20 Viktor.
 
Yes, I run more power than yesterday, = but only=20 1-1.5dB more or so.
Antenna current is just a little bit=20 more.
I can crank up the power by another=20 3-4dB........
 
But I want to stay in safe area, = hi.
 
Thanks again for = monitoring!
 
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Victor van=20 kooten
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 = 9:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF-137.708 =

 
High power Dick??
 
73
Victor PA3FNY
 
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C6C441.6EB1C420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211997008539966750 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d62caace3d7018127320c54d71b6217bbf66edd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs367881qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr3081615nfg; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si6384848nfc.2006.08.17.14.33.37; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpRm-0007eB-CQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:30:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDpRl-0007e2-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:30:37 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDpRh-0001aU-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:30:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 69147 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2006 21:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.31.222 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2006 21:30:24 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.11.1/421]); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c6c243$eea18d00$de1f8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <00b501c6c23f$58dc5240$7ebe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:27:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.772,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6C24C.50339A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5118 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6C24C.50339A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dick, Most QRSS activity is usually centred on 137.7kHz +/- a few 10s of Hz. = 3s/dot is the norm, and usually quite adequate for QSOs around Europe. See=20 http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136narro.htm#Operating for some explanation of QRSS operating procedure and an example QSO. I would add a couple of things - -Pick a frequency without any Loran lines -Don't try to tune to the exact frequency of the station you are = calling, use a slightly different frequency from the other stations = active; you only need a few Hz seperation. That way everyone who is QRV = can read all the other stations transmitting simultaneously. -Use "break-in" mode - ie. set QRS up to switch back to receive between = your transmitted characters - this saves a lot of time if you "double" = with someone! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's Thanks all for the comments about QRSS programms. I have Rik's programm on my laptop now. Seems to work! =20 Now have to build the interfaces =20 =20 Next question of course is where to transmit? =20 In other words, what are the usual European QRSS frequencies and = speeds? Are there any other things to think off when starting QRSS tests? =20 73 =20 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6C24C.50339A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dick,
 
Most QRSS activity is usually centred = on 137.7kHz=20 +/- a few 10s of Hz. 3s/dot is the norm, and usually quite adequate for = QSOs=20 around Europe.
 
See
http://www.qsl.n= et/on7yd/136narro.htm#Operating
for some explanation of QRSS operating = procedure=20 and an example QSO.
 
I would add a couple of things = -
 
-Pick a frequency without any Loran=20 lines
 
-Don't try to tune to the exact = frequency of the=20 station you are calling, use a slightly different frequency from the = other=20 stations active; you only need a few Hz seperation. That way everyone = who is QRV=20 can read all the other stations transmitting = simultaneously.
 
-Use "break-in" mode - ie. set QRS up = to switch=20 back to receive between your transmitted characters - this saves a lot = of time=20 if you "double" with someone!
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 = 9:54=20 PM
Subject: LF: QRSS QRG's

Thanks all for the comments about = QRSS=20 programms.
I have Rik's programm on my laptop=20 now.
Seems to work!
 
Now have to build the = interfaces
 
 
Next question of course is where to=20 transmit?
 
In other words, what are the usual = European QRSS=20 frequencies and speeds?
Are there any other things to think = off when=20 starting QRSS tests?
 
73
 
Dick,=20 pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6C24C.50339A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211815177710493650 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 04492a48d29582c4f080d542ed1629d7fd00e864 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs330866qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr1870483nfi; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si5072071nfc.2006.08.17.00.39.48; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDcMn-0002eY-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDcMn-0002eO-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:37 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDcMj-0008Ok-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA0D4D02D for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:32:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014354D28E for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75562CAB00; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5142CAB03 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20060817094232.0258c6f8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:44:19 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <003701c6c0b0$360aeaa0$862d8351@w4o8m9> References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> <002501c6c0ad$2589c960$862d8351@w4o8m9> <007001c6c0ae$938a6180$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.793,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_73483515==_.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5172 --=====================_73483515==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Dick, Jim, LF group, Version 3.17 is Win3 upward compatible but will not support the parallel port under WinNT, Win2000, WinXP etc. Version 4.04 has full support of the parallel port but requires at least Win98. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, if version 4.02 does not - perhaps >Rik could comment... >>Will this one run under windows 95 James? Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_73483515==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear Dick, Jim, LF group,

Version 3.17 is Win3 upward compatible but will not support the parallel port under WinNT, Win2000, WinXP etc.
Version 4.04 has full support of the parallel port but requires at least Win98.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
 
I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, if version 4.02 does not - perhaps Rik could comment...

Will this one run under windows 95 James?


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--=====================_73483515==_.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211815177710493650 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 47dfe61f7093b841d7d3b02efb9563055768284c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs279331qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr324950nfk; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si3114780nfc.2006.08.16.00.09.49; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDFUJ-0001ar-3m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDFUI-0001ai-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:50 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDFUE-0007Vf-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:50 +0100 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060816070641.JFMZ1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:41 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060816070641.DNHI644.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:41 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44E2D20C.23564.523697@localhost> In-reply-to: <003701c6c0b0$360aeaa0$862d8351@w4o8m9> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.147,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5173 I am using V4.02 on Win95 and it works fine. Mike. G3XDV ========== > I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, if version 4.02 does not - > perhaps Rik could comment... > 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211815177710493650 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9fc586803802f95a6f768ea2eb945ad68b97962a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs267547qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr1956963nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si2528820nfc.2006.08.15.15.39.31; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD7Vx-0006Wq-HT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:36:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD7Vx-0006Wh-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:36:01 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GD7Vs-0002yU-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:36:01 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.277.e2fe159 (43932) for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <277.e2fe159.3213a560@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:32:00 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5059 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.892,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1155681120" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5174 -------------------------------1155681120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/15/2006 4:21:40 PM Central Daylight Time, james.moritz@btopenworld.com writes: I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, if version 4.02 does not They both list Windows 95 support. Both are still available at http://lwca.org/library/software/index.htm and we have versions available as far back as v1.16 if anyone needs them: ( http://lwca.org/library/software/qrs.htm ) John -------------------------------1155681120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 8/15/2006 4:21:40 PM Central Daylight Time, james.mo= ritz@btopenworld.com writes:
I am pretty certain version 3.17 does= , if version 4.02 does not
 
They both list Windows 95 support.
 
Both are still available at http://lwca.org/library/software/index.htm and we have=20= versions available as far back as v1.16 if anyone needs them:  (&n= bsp;http://lwca.org/lib= rary/software/qrs.htm )
 
John
 
-------------------------------1155681120-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211815177710493650 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 423a38256561300acbfac94b55cdbdf674679482 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs265132qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr1883746nfl; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2435220nfc.2006.08.15.14.23.30; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD6L1-0005ys-Mr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:20:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD6L1-0005yj-6n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:20:39 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD6Ku-0005aC-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:20:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 14689 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 21:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.45.134 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 21:20:25 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.10.10/418]); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c6c0b0$360aeaa0$862d8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <004601c6c0ab$067f8980$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> <002501c6c0ad$2589c960$862d8351@w4o8m9> <007001c6c0ae$938a6180$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:17:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.806,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C6C0B8.97ADC0E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5175 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C6C0B8.97ADC0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dick, LF Group, I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, if version 4.02 does not - = perhaps Rik could comment... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: simple QRSS software Will this one run under windows 95 James? ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C6C0B8.97ADC0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dick, LF Group,
 
I am pretty certain version 3.17 does, = if version=20 4.02 does not - perhaps Rik could comment...
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 = 10:05=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: simple = QRSS=20 software

Will this one run under windows 95=20 James?
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C6C0B8.97ADC0E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211990844392483131 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 185fd3f50bfaed9be47ffbeeb7f3319b22d25e89 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs362413qbh; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr2958881nfi; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si6243565nfe.2006.08.17.12.55.38; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDnqM-0006lJ-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:47:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDnqM-0006lA-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:47:54 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDnqH-00014h-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:47:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 4721 invoked by uid 0); 17 Aug 2006 19:47:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.126]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 17 Aug 2006 19:47:37 -0000 Message-ID: <006401c6c235$886f7960$7ebe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <000601c6c21b$36d8a0f0$6501a8c0@woonkamer> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:40:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.474,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 136kHz test sat aug 19 14-15utc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01C6C245.C84C1880" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5183 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C6C245.C84C1880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I plan to run a test transmission at full power coming saturday, if = weather permits. Frequency: 136.550 kHz +/-50Hz in CW, about 8 wpm Time: 14.00 to 15.00 utc (16-17 local time) if everything stays working, = and have no fire, hihi Reports are very welcome, especially about what my real frequency is. This frequency is my latest update on my rig, which now contains an VXO = and one fixed channel : 136.550kHz My first impression is that I'm a bit higher in frequency.....but = difficult to determine. Therefore reports from others are a great value. Planned equipement: 500Watt into T-antenna, as described before. 73 Dick, PA4VHF--JO32eh ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C6C245.C84C1880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
I plan to run a test transmission at = full power=20 coming saturday, if weather permits.
 
Frequency: 136.550 kHz +/-50Hz=20 in CW, about 8 wpm
 
Time: 14.00 to 15.00 utc (16-17 local = time) if=20 everything stays working, and have no fire, hihi
 
Reports are very welcome, especially = about what my=20 real frequency is.
 
This frequency is my latest update on = my rig, which=20 now contains an VXO and one fixed channel : 136.550kHz
My first impression is that I'm a bit = higher in=20 frequency.....but difficult to determine.
Therefore reports from others are a = great=20 value.
 
Planned equipement: 500Watt into = T-antenna, as=20 described before.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF--JO32eh
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C6C245.C84C1880-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212228622993995118 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ebc7c0bf3360e3aba884cb84fe06e78565143e42 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112185qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr6313064nfk; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si880828nfe.2006.08.20.03.55.03; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkuL-0003ae-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:51:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkuL-0003aV-Eb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:51:57 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEkuH-0004HM-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:51:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 26147 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 10:31:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.85]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 10:31:39 -0000 Message-ID: <005201c6c443$59a55c20$58be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:28:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.389,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: pa4vhf-qrss-qrt now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01C6C454.1C8DF480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5194 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C6C454.1C8DF480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, thanks all for reporting my signals on 137.7 I switched off now at 10 ut after 3 hours non stop operation. (longest = sofar) Nothing went bang, James! Everything works fine; no extreme heat or whatsoever. I was running around 300Watt at times. Looking forward to receive more reports; also want to know at what time = most people are listening/watching, in order to concentrate activity around these times. 73 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C6C454.1C8DF480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, thanks all for reporting my = signals on=20 137.7
 
I switched off now at 10 ut after 3 = hours non stop=20 operation. (longest sofar)
Nothing went bang, = James!
Everything works fine; no extreme heat = or=20 whatsoever.
 
I was running around 300Watt at = times.
 
Looking forward to receive more = reports; also want=20 to know at what time most people are listening/watching,
in order to concentrate activity around = these=20 times.
 
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
 
------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C6C454.1C8DF480-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210790224885325583 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3660f822fddc8ff566f6d8fcc9e77d630bc07f58 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs135623qbh; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5257736nfi; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si947112nfa.2006.08.04.06.52.19; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G901I-0004uT-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:47:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G901H-0004uK-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:47:19 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G901D-0005Fi-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:47:19 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 104651E80D for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <002401c6b7cc$78e93a80$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:47:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.063,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: TIL Grabber Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5195 Friends, It was nice to have a full night of reception of the VY1JA beacon on the TIL Grabber when no LORAN were received and interesting to see that only for a few minutes, the propagation leaking into KI0LE again without the LORAN lines. Propagation on this band is a challenge. These tests are still at the 100 W output level. The output transformer has been rewound for, and problems removed from,Scott's loaner transmitter, and hopefully the power level will go up on within the next few days. JA(Cdn) :o) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8242f0f613a6ee470dc8328e6e23af5f9483e3fd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs196487qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr6900800nfi; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si5445869nfa.2006.08.14.02.27.27; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCYck-0000qW-67 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:20:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCYcj-0000qN-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:20:41 +0100 Received: from relay.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.49] helo=relay.dstl.gov.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCYce-0004Fh-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:20:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 6177 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2006 10:18:53 +0100 Received: from warlock.dstl.gov.uk (192.5.29.10) by relay.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 14 Aug 2006 10:18:53 +0100 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D06B4628F@mail.dstl.gov.uk> From: Talbot Andrew To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:18:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.002,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. cap acity Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5204 The 198kHz transmitter at Droitwich has four wires forming the vertical, with a four wire top hat. When I first put up my LF antenna I thought "they must know what they're doing" and copied the multiple vertical wire concept and chose with 3 up and top wires, although with a spacing of only 300m. At 7m high, and a top hat of 14 m length (x 300mm) with a plethora of ground rods in heavy clay, I manage typically 100 ohms antenna resistance at 137kHz - although it increases by 20 - 50% in wet weather due to extra absorbtion of the reactive E filed in foliage and wet roof tiles. Originally I only had 150mm spacing, and going to 300mm did make a noticeacbe improvement, but I was never serious enough about getting loadsa mega-erp to try making it any larger. The vertical element tapers from a single point about 2m above the groung to the full width at the top. I could try bunching the vertical conductors together to test, but thst would then involve going on the air (!) and actually getting some measured signal reports. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 12 August 2006 16:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Hi Rik & LF, I remember seeing a multi top wire LF antenna with multi wire vertical conductors somewhere & I found it in the 'Low Frequency Experimenters Handbook' in an article written by Peter G3LDO. He shows a 4 wire top with a 4 wire vertical feed & describes it as a 'Traditional T LF Antenna'. What I am curious about is that if it is detremental to have this multi wire vertical arrangement as you stated, why has Peter shown it in his article? I have an Admiralty book 'Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy' (1938) which shows the same type of T antenna with a multi wire vertical section. I have also seen articles elsewhere (maybe on internet) regarding multi wire verticals & tops were the wires are in a circular arrangement/format & are presented as 'Cage Antennas & Cage Dipoles' although I believe to increase bandwidth. The reason I am interested is that I have thought about a similar arrangement because of my small garden area like Dick. Comments invited please. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 11 August 2006 22:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Quoting captbrian : > Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each > top wire Using multiple vertical wires will increase the antenna capacitance but also decrease the radiation resistance. I guess that a thing you don't want. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm "This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely upon this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail." "Recipients should note that all e-mail traffic on MOD systems is subject to monitoring and auditing." From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6692d92aeeac8853fa568781624efa400e755601 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149990qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr5118198nfv; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si2336400nfc.2006.08.12.09.48.24; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBwd5-0005pf-Gi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:46:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBwd5-0005pW-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:46:31 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBwd1-00012Q-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:46:31 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2006 17:45:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAC2i3USLDwMMBwYd Received: from 88-106-96-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.96.167]:2474 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GBwbD-000PJg-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:44:35 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:46:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002001c6be25$21a88f00$0b01a8c0@server> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.022,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5205 Hi J.B. It will be interesting to see others comment on what you wrote, 'multiple vertical wires are fine provided that they converge to a common point as they come down to the feedpoint' That is what the 2 examples show which I mentioned earlier. Thanks for your reply. 73 Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5333e7e23d42953c55bbd9e94d974f42b60b2c2d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149836qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr5258830nfi; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si7549793nfa.2006.08.12.09.42.35; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBwXn-0005hz-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:41:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBwXm-0005hq-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:41:02 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBwXi-0000yB-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:41:02 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2006 17:40:51 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAE6g3USLBwIHBAoHBh0 Received: from 88-106-96-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.96.167]:2460 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GBwXb-0004JN-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:40:51 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <44DE0A2D.27594.1E88CF0@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.035,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5206 Hi Mike & LF, You wrote, 'but provide additional capacitance to ground at a low height, thus reducing the effective height' Thanks Mike, I now understand that the reduction of effective height is the reason. So single wire vertical feed & multi wire top is what I should aim for. 73 Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2e776585c8c92a21b3f5e0b88c7cc139967b00ac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149336qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr5218478nff; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si5964732nfa.2006.08.12.09.11.17; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBw2W-0005SG-8Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:08:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBw2V-0005S7-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:08:43 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBw2R-0000gJ-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:08:43 +0100 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060812160449.WPVL1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:04:49 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060812160449.EHNJ644.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:04:49 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:04:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44DE0A2D.27594.1E88CF0@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <20060811231006.dihjfufduh44og8s@webmail3.kuleuven.be> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.515,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5207 You have the answer at the end of your e-mail. Multiple vertical wires are good for broadbanding, but provide additional capacitance to ground at a low height, thus reducing the effective height. Broadbanding may have been important in an efficient commercial station, but is unnecessary when ground resistances of 100+ohms make the antenna broad enough. Mike, G3XDV ==========. > I remember seeing a multi top wire LF antenna with multi wire vertical > conductors somewhere & I found it in the 'Low Frequency Experimenters > Handbook' in an article written by Peter G3LDO. He shows a 4 wire top > with a 4 wire vertical feed & describes it as a 'Traditional T LF > Antenna'. What I am curious about is that if it is detremental to have > this multi wire vertical arrangement as you stated, why has Peter > shown it in his article? I have an Admiralty book 'Handbook of > Wireless Telegraphy' (1938) which shows the same type of T antenna > with a multi wire vertical section. I have also seen articles > elsewhere (maybe on internet) regarding multi wire verticals & tops > were the wires are in a circular arrangement/format & are presented > as 'Cage Antennas & Cage Dipoles' although I believe to increase > bandwidth. > > The reason I am interested is that I have thought about a similar > arrangement because of my small garden area like Dick. > > Comments invited please. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe > Sent: 11 August 2006 22:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: > Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity > > > Quoting captbrian : > > > Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre > > of > each > > top wire > > Using multiple vertical wires will increase the antenna capacitance > but also decrease the radiation resistance. I guess that a thing you > don't want. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f2a578d04e3a40f8ae6d05449c58b23da670b2a8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs149005qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5079829nfi; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si7792809nfe.2006.08.12.08.51.28; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBvi3-0005FO-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:47:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBvi2-0005FF-HU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:47:34 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBvhy-0002WS-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:47:34 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2006 16:47:23 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAB2U3USLBwIHAgwHBh0 Received: from 88-106-96-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.96.167]:2301 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GBvhr-000Aaw-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:47:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:48:12 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20060811231006.dihjfufduh44og8s@webmail3.kuleuven.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.701 Subject: RE: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5208 Hi Rik & LF, I remember seeing a multi top wire LF antenna with multi wire vertical conductors somewhere & I found it in the 'Low Frequency Experimenters Handbook' in an article written by Peter G3LDO. He shows a 4 wire top with a 4 wire vertical feed & describes it as a 'Traditional T LF Antenna'. What I am curious about is that if it is detremental to have this multi wire vertical arrangement as you stated, why has Peter shown it in his article? I have an Admiralty book 'Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy' (1938) which shows the same type of T antenna with a multi wire vertical section. I have also seen articles elsewhere (maybe on internet) regarding multi wire verticals & tops were the wires are in a circular arrangement/format & are presented as 'Cage Antennas & Cage Dipoles' although I believe to increase bandwidth. The reason I am interested is that I have thought about a similar arrangement because of my small garden area like Dick. Comments invited please. Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 11 August 2006 22:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Quoting captbrian : > Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each > top wire Using multiple vertical wires will increase the antenna capacitance but also decrease the radiation resistance. I guess that a thing you don't want. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dbb444c663ff511bb492884f2b0b27f4f25d3bcf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs129938qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr4510565nfl; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si4887022nfb.2006.08.11.14.30.44; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBeYn-0001gM-Cd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:28:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBeYm-0001gD-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:28:52 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBeYi-0006f4-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:28:52 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.166.101) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447F02A300675980 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:25:30 +0200 Message-ID: <005001c6bd8c$6c29fd00$65a624d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu><010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> <20060811231006.dihjfufduh44og8s@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:23:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0632-2, 08/10/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.170 Subject: Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5209 Good night to all, The guru watches! Always also pationnante this list, thank you Rik. 73: Jeff F6CWN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity > Quoting captbrian : > > > Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each > > top wire > > Using multiple vertical wires will increase the antenna capacitance > but also decrease the radiation resistance. I guess that a thing you > don't want. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0d0cc9885973f61e39e22bfb25bc4c217afd6bd4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs129533qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr4494365nfl; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4846395nfc.2006.08.11.14.12.49; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBeHI-0001Y4-Kn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:10:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBeHI-0001Xv-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:10:48 +0100 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBeHE-0002pg-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:10:48 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9BD138358 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01 (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9FD13838E for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1272E68F5; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps01 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEE22E68F3 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6EBB51A982E; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 202.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (202.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.180.202]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20060811231006.dihjfufduh44og8s@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:10:06 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> <010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> In-Reply-To: <010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.180.202 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5210 Quoting captbrian : > Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each > top wire Using multiple vertical wires will increase the antenna capacitance but also decrease the radiation resistance. I guess that a thing you don't want. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 415cef14821f137cbb6006a9f6cb94ce8818c210 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs128082qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr4462404nfl; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si4396811nfb.2006.08.11.13.42.23; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdnJ-0001Fi-Bk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdnI-0001FX-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBdnE-0006GP-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:48 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-64.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.64] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GBdnB-000Abx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:41 +0100 Message-ID: <010b01c6bd86$56689680$bdc828c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:40:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5211 By all means put a wire in the middle for extra pf. but the z shape will make no difference I think. Make the vertical of three parallel conductors , each to the centre of each top wire Bryan g3gvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: 11 August 2006 20:45 Subject: LF: antenna: how to get max. capacity Hello all, In order to test my 136kHz TX at home, I just have installed a toploaded wire in the backgarden. It measured only 135pF, which is too low, because need around 10mH to get that running on 136...... System is as follows: 2 wires each 7.5m long mounted parallel (spacing 30cm), at both ends connected together, and in the center connected together. >From the center an about 7m long wire goes vertical downward to the TX. Any suggestions how to get more capacitance in the air? I am limited in options, because the topload has an maximum length of 7.5m, and maximum width of 1m. Some ideas I have: -opening up the ends -adding a third wire in de middle, feed it there and then bending the rest, a kind of Z-shapped topload, center fed. Would be happy to get 40 - 50pF extra up in the air....... 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211450040689915199 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 56d8704be068cd58dc8713ef2f6baeb1ab34972d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs127922qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr4253862nfj; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si4546668nfc.2006.08.11.13.39.48; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdlJ-0001Bu-3B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:37:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBdlI-0001Bk-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:37:44 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBdlF-0002QA-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:37:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 17942 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2006 20:36:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.45.245 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2006 20:36:34 -0000 Message-ID: <003901c6bd85$d7a5b8a0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000801c6bd7e$c7a2c4e0$63be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:35:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.552 Subject: LF: Re: antenna: how to get max. capacity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5212 Hi Dick, Cynical responses to your kind of query in the past have been in vein of "Buy another house with more space" Seriously you are up against some basic laws. Empirical test suggest that the minimum spacing to get some reasonable increase from the second top wire is 70cm Three wires with a max spread of just over a meter might give some more. You can use a ball-park figure ( as out TA friends would say) of 6pF per metre so 2 runs of 7.5 metre equates to about 90pF the other 45pF you are seeing is probably the vertical to ground. To get another 50pF you will need to get out another 9 or 10 metres. It can go anywhere connected at any point but it should be over open ground and not over trees or roofs. It can even be in a meander observing the 70cm spacing. The wire only needs to be thick enough to support its span. It doesnt make a lot of difference where you feed it....centre or end, the top capacity is the same. In fact you may get a slightly higher Rrad by end feeding it as an inverted "L " To get the maximum effective height you need a run of top wire from the feed point of about 50% longer than the real height of the top. I dont remember seeing a calculation for a meander top wire. The increase in capacity will reduce your tuning inductor, but unfortunately with so low a total capacity you will probably have a ground loss in excess of 200ohms regardles of what you do with ground rods. This means the ERP from your site will be quite small. In this situation you may radiate more with a loop despite its inefficiency at that limited size, it does not suffer from loss from surrounding structures or trees. Dave Sargent was unable to run a inverted L and used a loop with low power (~ 50 watts) Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 11 August 2006 20:45 Subject: LF: antenna: how to get max. capacity Hello all, In order to test my 136kHz TX at home, I just have installed a toploaded wire in the backgarden. It measured only 135pF, which is too low, because need around 10mH to get that running on 136...... System is as follows: 2 wires each 7.5m long mounted parallel (spacing 30cm), at both ends connected together, and in the center connected together. >From the center an about 7m long wire goes vertical downward to the TX. Any suggestions how to get more capacitance in the air? I am limited in options, because the topload has an maximum length of 7.5m, and maximum width of 1m. Some ideas I have: -opening up the ends -adding a third wire in de middle, feed it there and then bending the rest, a kind of Z-shapped topload, center fed. Would be happy to get 40 - 50pF extra up in the air....... 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213109538872410929 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f6487b9f956b9cb78ccdc816a432fa31ea13eb7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs64023qbh; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr2151391nfk; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si502987nfc.2006.08.29.21.16.49; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIHRJ-0006xP-D5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:12:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIHRI-0006xG-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:12:32 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIHRF-0006LT-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:12:32 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GIHRE-0004TU-05; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:12:28 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (SgVIk0ZAYeaZFjv7N1sGssXjeGHJaM8oSdqndUbspuR7102qN6nK41@[217.245.119.163]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1GIHR6-0nphWS0; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:12:20 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:12:07 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001101c6cbb0$42de8600$27be3b3e@fujitsu> X-ID: SgVIk0ZAYeaZFjv7N1sGssXjeGHJaM8oSdqndUbspuR7102qN6nK41 X-TOI-MSGID: 6692e9bd-afcd-4cba-80ad-f5c1bea8a80f X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.704,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: activity 'poll/equate' for LX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CBFB.388F67F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5223 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CBFB.388F67F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI Dick, here my answer: 1. are you interested in working LX on 136kHz YES ! 2. which modes can you work? CW, QRSS and/or DFCW? CW, QRSS 3. prefered operation times? you can give more times, best time at first, etc. Saturdays afternoon, all week early evening until 18:00h 4. if you have a Xtal controlled TX, please give the frequency. all is ok! (I guess, if it's the case, mostly it might be 136.533kHz, ROPEX-TX....) best 73' Tom DL4EAU JO51DR ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CBFB.388F67F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI=20 Dick,
here=20 my answer:
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CBFB.388F67F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211320892354048655 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0f92f0b5958e9469d4ce52243f61acba186e8a1d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs77351qbh; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr2634360nfl; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si3032775nfc.2006.08.10.03.26.46; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GB7cR-00034x-0z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:18:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GB7cQ-00034n-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:18:26 +0100 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.180]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GB7cK-0003vs-HT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:18:26 +0100 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so679917pyb for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=adylknNUhe1tH24IJDR9PnYq3IrD2yJWhtnxwPnbGhKwEbYWc985bZzuCIdOtRL8MVyof33iz0zSyl7vb9jl/GaiIFyCUKDwPzelRRFG/3YNYeUVTDcJYT9EapWOnMr5j3lz/CiFGVNFlnfSEQ4+Fs28WKI6Hi1+u546dGXIZic= Received: by 10.65.251.1 with SMTP id d1mr2136073qbs; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.249.16 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410608100317t75fb159bp210b830899d6f05c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:17:18 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" , lowfer@lwca.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.265,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: Jims calculator Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22076_16851242.1155205038405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5309 ------=_Part_22076_16851242.1155205038405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline dear all. Sorry I've been a bit slow on this but Jim's coil-calculating spreadsheet and explanatory PDF is now uploaded to the LF website at http://wireless.org.uk/features.htm Dave -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_22076_16851242.1155205038405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline dear all.

Sorry I've been a bit slow on this but Jim's coil-calculating spreadsheet and explanatory PDF is now uploaded to the LF website at http://wireless.org.uk/features.htm

Dave

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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_22076_16851242.1155205038405-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211634882859610456 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d5da880cb89c138cb8365821bae3a91ac2d7298c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs181393qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr532833nfj; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si4771742nfc.2006.08.13.14.37.48; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCNaH-0006JY-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:33:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCNaH-0006JP-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:33:25 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCNaE-00008V-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:33:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 8893 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2006 21:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.13.19 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2006 21:33:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c6bf20$161d1060$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:16:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.573 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: qrss60 tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5337 Hi Gary I had too much noise to judge your sig at this range.....hope it wasn't anything serious Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: Sent: 13 August 2006 21:13 Subject: LF: RE: Re: qrss60 tonite > Hi Alan, > > Thanks for the report, did the trace look clean? it looks like I may have > some corona somewhere, the trace on my SpecLab has a fuzz along the top & > bottom when I peak up the antenna current/SWR with the variometer, it has > been raining tonight. I have terminated the transmission now as I don't want > another blown PA so soon. I will investigate further tomorrow. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 13 August 2006 20:24 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: qrss60 tonite > > > Hi Gary I can see you here on spectran running on the full band but you are > not audible in the Spectran 300 Hz filter which is odd. I was sure you used > to audible here when you were transmitting, Ah you are just audible, but > right on the edge. You only look to be about 5dB above the noise here, but > it is not fully dark yet. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary - G4WGT > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Sent: 13 August 2006 19:53 > Subject: LF: qrss60 tonite > > > > Hi All, > > > > Just started transmission 136.3195khz qrss60 375 watts. > > > > Reports welcome. > > > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212447783486053417 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 204b37893bdc39680748a8ef12275dd83fc9594e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs264489qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr1087167nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si1199569nfc.2006.08.22.15.06.08; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFeIb-0002yT-Ab for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:00:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFeIa-0002yK-LC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:00:40 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFeIW-0003QV-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:00:40 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GFeIU-0003rg-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:00:34 +0200 Received: from p54869af5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.154.245] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GFeIU-0004uO-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:00:34 +0200 Message-ID: <44EB7E80.7010806@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:00:32 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c6c62c$9bf62ba0$04be3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <000801c6c62c$9bf62ba0$04be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.798 Subject: Re: LF: first QRSS/DFCW QSO's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5357 Hi Dick, Congrats for the first QSO - hope to work you soon. > For some reason I was not able to get the right settings in spec lab. > Resolution is difficult, the tone went down in noise, it looked like. > Anyway, my ear was better then the computer..... > Maybe some tips about advised settings? If you get lost in the settings, enter the "Quick Settings" menu, and select "Slow Morse Reception" ... "3 Seconds/dot" (=QRSS3). If you hear a signal but don't see a strong line in the spectrogram, try this: - scroll the the frequency axis around (towards higher or lower audio frequencies until you find the spot), by holding the left mouse button down on the frequency scale, and move the mouse while keeping the button pressed. SL will redraw the spectrum completely, so old parts of the frequency axis will become visible then. - try the "contrast" and "brightness" controls on the left side. They are extremely important to squeeze the last fraction of a decibel out of the screen. - To see the full bandwidth on the screen, click on the frequency axis with the right(!) mouse button and select "Zoom Out". The spectrogram will be redrawn immediately (also the old parts). Then, to examine something in detail, click on the frequency axis again (near the interesting frequency) and select "Zoom In" or "Zoom to 1 pixel per FFT bin". The latter case gives the optimum aspect ratio for QRSS, DFCW, and DF6NM's Chirped Hell. - Life is easier if you enter the "VFO frequency" of your receiver to see the "high frequency" (instead of the audio frequency) on the frequency scale. For example, I always tune my LF RX to 135.8 kHz in USB, and enter "135.8k" in the "Offs"-field on the right side. Then I scroll the spectrogram's frequency scale so 137.7 kHz is in the middle of the screen. - For very weak signals, I find the "sunrise" color palette better suited than the multi-coloured default palette. The colour palette can be selected through the file menu. Best regards / CUL, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212447783486053417 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d7984bd204a54f9b3ad4d054df7a40005c9bace5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs260817qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr1006310nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si1107364nfa.2006.08.22.13.58.24; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdHB-00029h-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:55:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFdHB-00029Y-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:55:09 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFdH6-00031j-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:55:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 30268 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2006 20:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.4]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Aug 2006 20:53:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c6c62c$9bf62ba0$04be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:49:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: first QRSS/DFCW QSO's Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C63D.34F7D640" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5358 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C63D.34F7D640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I am happy!!! I just made my first QRSS/DFCW QSO's by accident. I just wanted to check receiving software, at the time running 'spectrum = laboratory v2.1 b2". I connected the T-antenna to the loading coil etc, and tuned up with low = power, just to get best reception. Well, I suddenly heard a carrier, and on my screen I recognized the = first dashes and dots: C Q P A 3 C P M =20 Well I thought that's nice. I decided to beacon a bit, just for fun, and to test my just finished = DFCW unit. Transmitted my call 2 times, and switched to reception. Guess what............ I saw my callsign coming back! somebody calling = me!!!!!!! A total surprise, turned out to be PA3CPM calling me. We exchanged "O/O" and locators...... After the QSO someone else called me, but couldn't get it clear on my = screen. I searched for my Timewave DSP59+, and after some trial and error I got = it running, meanwhile the calling station was gone. I TX-ed ?? and, then I saw Jim, M0BMU returning. That QSO was also made, but I had a lot of trouble in reading him. I think it would have been easier in normal CW! For some reason I was not able to get the right settings in spec lab. Resolution is difficult, the tone went down in noise, it looked like. Anyway, my ear was better then the computer..... Maybe some tips about advised settings? I tried to load Argo, but couldn't find driver on my pc. 73 Dick, PA4VHF-JO32eh ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C63D.34F7D640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
I am happy!!!
 
I just made my first QRSS/DFCW QSO's by = accident.
 
 
I just wanted to check receiving = software, at the=20 time running 'spectrum laboratory v2.1 b2".
 
I connected the T-antenna to the = loading coil etc,=20 and tuned up with low power, just to get best reception.
Well, I suddenly heard a carrier, and = on my screen=20 I recognized the first dashes and dots:
 
C   Q    = P  =20 A    3    C     =20 P    M 
 
Well I thought that's = nice.
I decided to beacon a bit, just for = fun, and to=20 test my just finished DFCW unit.
Transmitted my call 2 times, and = switched to=20 reception.
 
Guess what............ I saw my = callsign coming=20 back! somebody calling me!!!!!!!
A total surprise, turned out to be = PA3CPM calling=20 me.
We exchanged "O/O" and = locators......
 
After the QSO someone else called me, = but couldn't=20 get it clear on my screen.
I searched for my Timewave DSP59+, and = after some=20 trial and error I got it running, meanwhile the calling
station was gone.
I TX-ed ?? and, then I saw Jim, M0BMU=20 returning.
That QSO was also made, but I had a lot = of trouble=20 in reading him.
I think it would have been easier in = normal=20 CW!
 
For some reason I was not able to get = the right=20 settings in spec lab.
Resolution is difficult, the tone went = down in=20 noise, it looked like.
Anyway, my ear was better then the=20 computer.....
 
Maybe some tips about advised=20 settings?
 
I tried to load Argo, but couldn't find = driver on=20 my pc.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF-JO32eh
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C63D.34F7D640-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212399928982230101 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 01d66d3cdca9da60cbf5e588f85b3ef31fed8803 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs245032qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr640410nfl; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si726290nfc.2006.08.22.09.08.04; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYhG-0007VU-3s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:01:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFYhF-0007VL-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:01:45 +0100 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFYhC-0004Gc-1P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:01:45 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:13117 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFYhB-0004cr-Bj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:01:41 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c6c604$3bc59090$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:01:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.922 Subject: LF: Re: These sliding doors again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5364 Hello Laurence, Thank you for sending this information to the list. Your 30 - 40 db noise attenuation agrees very well with my own findings at 400 kHz: 40 dB for a concrete building and 32 dB for a brick wall house. The clue is the walls attenuating the noise from inside the building. Thus at LF all is not lost for the city dweller using an E-field probe! You are the first one who carried out the same research as I did (as far as I know of) and I am very pleased to have the results reproduced under such difficult circumstances. It might be quite educational to try a loop at the same location. Thank you for your efforts. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212399928982230101 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a8fa4dfe6219b7530ff94b921a93e63d897ed743 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs221361qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.19 with SMTP id l19mr46259nfe; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si45711nfc.2006.08.22.01.17.50; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFRMf-0002aq-Rp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:12:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFRMf-0002ah-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:12:01 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFRMb-0000Gs-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:12:01 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-75.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.75] helo=captbrian) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GFRMY-0006lJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:11:55 +0100 Message-ID: <006301c6c5c2$b003bc80$4fce28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:07:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.007 Subject: LF: Re: These sliding doors again Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5365 Equipped with rubber gloves and rubber boots and dark goggles, , connect "earth" of the power supply to your door frame..??? Maybe measure DC PD first but not such sense of adventure. G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Laurence KL1X" Sent: 22 August 2006 05:38 Subject: LF: These sliding doors again Considering the extenuative affects to kill common mode qrm coming from inside the room, up the coax and out Ive been playing to try to find out whats what. Yep an Im using isolating toroids and all that guff. Here we go For a merit test I "built" my own 4 x 3 metre flexible doorway in an area similar but without the metal frame being there. This was with one continuous length of folded aluminum foil some 4 cms in width and a couple of thicknesses to give it some mechanical strength with all that tugging - and some 14 metres in circumference. I compared the extenuative results of common in building noise with the one with a known killer of QRN my favorite sliding balcony door frame - At 137 Khz the door frame gave appx 30-40dB of noize attenuation (nice) my aluminum made up version standalone 4dB... or less. Open circuiting the aluminium made up little difference So I pondered - I knew from testing in Singapore that the metal frame in my hotel that worked so well wasn't connected to "mains" earth - but what about this one here in Shanghai? - Measured it and hey presto it is, and low Z too, certainly less than 1 ohm - theyve added a Earth safety strap somewhere and all the buildings doorways and sliding doors on the balconies are all boded together at "building earth" (notice Im not saying radio) potential and defacto we have a screened box - with my eprobe poking out of one side and the screen connected to that box. So this left the question of what was happening in Singapore? - Ive found out that the sliding door frame is connected to the steel work of the building but for some reason there is No connection to the mains earth in the 220vac supply - I actually think this is a bit dodgy but heck that mains earth was hot with RF and brought the noise up by 30dB, here luckily in Shanghai it doesn't. Choosing the right balcony sliding door for your probe has merits - the one on the North side cuts the noize out but then I get pylon hash, the one on the southside is much quieter but now screened from Asia/Americas and Eu - but I can still see DCF39 So no tuned loops, tooned earths, counterpoises or what ever just a screened metal box that keeps the rubbish mostly inside. Mostly. As Ive seen before if I was on the top floor its works pretty well for rx if i can get my probe above the roof line but Im on floor 3 out of 12 and by pushing the probe out further and further away from the building makes a huge difference - more than 1 S point per metre at 200Khz on some of the local NDB's. I have a cunning plan (as one famous actor said once "so cunning if you put a tail on it, you would call it a fox"), to get some form of earth into the ground and extend is camouflaged up the side of the building. If it works it will be interesting to see what if any affect is has on the qrm, if it doesn't Ill probably be in jail. Laurence, KL1X in BY, enroute tomorrow to KL7 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.comTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:33:59 -0800Subject: LF: condx DCF39 seen here from 1809z till 2143z - signals were coming and going and below audible - The signal here was seen some 24mins before sundown at Magdeburg and lost at my dawn. Theres hope! Laurence PM01 ShanghaiMini whip on a 7m fishing pole shoved out horizontally off a 3rd floor screened balcony Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live Messenger! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with gadgets on Windows Live Spaces http://discoverspaces.live.com?source=hmtag1&loc=us From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211629746096207110 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1b93d2b1364370aff87bd3fc8a145a81331fc4e7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs180003qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.19 with SMTP id l19mr513975nfe; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si9963087nfb.2006.08.13.13.16.09; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCMKa-0005wL-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:13:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCMKZ-0005wC-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:13:07 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCMKV-00011k-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:13:07 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2006 21:12:56 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAIMi30SLDwMMBwYd Received: from 88-106-97-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.97.39]:3519 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GCMJn-000ANp-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:12:19 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <000401c6bf0e$1786dec0$0300a8c0@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.682 Subject: LF: RE: Re: qrss60 tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5375 Hi Alan, Thanks for the report, did the trace look clean? it looks like I may have some corona somewhere, the trace on my SpecLab has a fuzz along the top & bottom when I peak up the antenna current/SWR with the variometer, it has been raining tonight. I have terminated the transmission now as I don't want another blown PA so soon. I will investigate further tomorrow. Regards, Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 13 August 2006 20:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: qrss60 tonite Hi Gary I can see you here on spectran running on the full band but you are not audible in the Spectran 300 Hz filter which is odd. I was sure you used to audible here when you were transmitting, Ah you are just audible, but right on the edge. You only look to be about 5dB above the noise here, but it is not fully dark yet. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Sent: 13 August 2006 19:53 Subject: LF: qrss60 tonite > Hi All, > > Just started transmission 136.3195khz qrss60 375 watts. > > Reports welcome. > > Gary - G4WGT. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212129027107823299 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5f386823a83795936e6c3f2039c6254cd3d14f50 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs63132qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr5037951nfv; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si1085774nfa.2006.08.19.01.32.00; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMBv-0003Jo-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:28:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMBu-0003Jf-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:28:26 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep16-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEMBr-0007IJ-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:28:26 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.93]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060819082705.PXN6291.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c6c369$4336b900$5d423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:27:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.307,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PI4VPO/Lt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C37A.067A69B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5390 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C37A.067A69B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To All , Worked PI4VPO/Lt around 8 Hrs UTC the signal with manual CW on 136.540 = Khz was very strong S9+15 in 300Hz bandwith . Also heard PA0SE with S9 and G3KEV with S7 . 73, William PA0WFO ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C37A.067A69B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To All=20 ,
Worked = PI4VPO/Lt around 8=20 Hrs UTC  the signal with manual CW on 136.540 Khz was very = strong=20 S9+15 in 300Hz bandwith .
Also heard = PA0SE with S9=20 and G3KEV with S7 .
73, William = PA0WFO
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6C37A.067A69B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212764160327551043 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e42add6bfacb05cd9a87f0090223aa88339daa72 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs474322qbh; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr6438022nfv; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si1982111nfb.2006.08.26.01.47.10; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GGtj6-0004Jf-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:41:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GGtj6-0004JW-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:41:12 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GGtj3-00065m-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:41:12 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.1.33) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 44EA9A4B0005476E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:37:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c6c8ea$e33f0b60$210124d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:34:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0634-2, 08/24/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.715,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: activity on 137700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C8EA.7E7A8920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5394 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C8EA.7E7A8920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 26./08/2006 0833z GM all, I just RX: " 7 SU K" on 137700 QRSS3 73: Jeff F6CWN ( JN09tt) ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C8EA.7E7A8920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
26./08/2006   0833z
 
GM all,
 
 I just RX: " 7 SU  K" on 137700=20 QRSS3
 
 73: Jeff F6CWN ( = JN09tt)
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C8EA.7E7A8920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849296520307836 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 93656d0207ffaeb38f90b62fd9b55970db274dae Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs278246qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr299465nfh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si3074067nfc.2006.08.15.23.25.49; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDEnD-00018V-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:22:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDEnD-00018M-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:22:19 +0100 Received: from smtp.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.46] helo=smtp1.versatel.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDEn9-0007Oy-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:22:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 4585 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2006 06:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.121]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 16 Aug 2006 06:22:08 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c6c0fb$d2869f00$79be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:18:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.511,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRSS software--thanks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C6C10C.8984FC00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5408 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C6C10C.8984FC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for the tips. I'll look for it. Now need to build a stable PLL/DDS circuit...... ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C6C10C.8984FC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for the tips.
I'll look for it.
Now need to build a stable PLL/DDS=20 circuit......
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C6C10C.8984FC00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212499481512211553 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a47781e383ce4753bab5e316fe2a279ae2602b46 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs287794qbh; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr1790938nfj; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si2184844nfe.2006.08.23.03.40.13; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFq4u-0001uz-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:35:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFq4u-0001uq-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:35:20 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GFq4q-0003n3-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:35:20 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GFq4p-0003hL-02; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:35:15 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (Tb3RvmZVreEBVgJhx3OnyBST6ye7cn3q9XSg+p-eqKnNBuyBKpDKko@[217.245.118.235]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1GFq4a-0pF94i0; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:35:00 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:34:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-reply-to: <000801c6c62c$9bf62ba0$04be3b3e@fujitsu> Importance: Normal X-ID: Tb3RvmZVreEBVgJhx3OnyBST6ye7cn3q9XSg+p-eqKnNBuyBKpDKko X-TOI-MSGID: 745da893-41b6-4d81-bec0-e1497bf9049c X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.728,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C6C6B0.86D9EB10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5411 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C6C6B0.86D9EB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm back again! 73'Tom DL4EAU ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C6C6B0.86D9EB10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm=20 back again!
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------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C6C6B0.86D9EB10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212219476146153417 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ffcb0350ba71a65f66fcaa78a93bb9be4cbc81a2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs108175qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6156761nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si639044nfb.2006.08.20.01.29.39; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEie5-0001lG-Tj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:27:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEie5-0001l5-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:27:01 +0100 Received: from smtpout0157.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.157] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEie1-0003NJ-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:27:01 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.65) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF90032B91D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:26:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c6c432$62d9fd20$41d0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:26:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.988 Subject: LF: PI4VPO/LT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5417 Hi Hans. Nice sig this morning. 599 but your power seems to be dropping or else QSB is the problem. Some QRN here but not a problem. 73 and gl and tnx for another QSO. de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211447902325488041 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 43590004c3ec4be7d9f4b695a89b82389128db0f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs126487qbh; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr4443002nfi; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si5827096nfa.2006.08.11.13.05.48; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBd9m-00011p-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:58:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBd9l-00011g-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:58:57 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s27.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.99]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GBd9h-0001vD-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:58:57 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W8 ([207.46.11.171]) by bay0-omc1-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:58:25 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:58:25 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2006 19:58:25.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[81E91EC0:01C6BD80] X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.087,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11654d1e-2bcd-4c6d-a2cb-fa236dd0a70b_" Subject: LF: conditions X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5494 --_11654d1e-2bcd-4c6d-a2cb-fa236dd0a70b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DCF39 pretty strong here -looking 136.320=20 =20 Laurence OJ11 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_11654d1e-2bcd-4c6d-a2cb-fa236dd0a70b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= DCF39 pretty strong here -looking 136.320
 
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With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. U= pload jokes, photos and more. It's free! It's free!=0A= = --_11654d1e-2bcd-4c6d-a2cb-fa236dd0a70b_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212222206497680445 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9c0d0f1178a721deb5f5d415fb83f426cd331a80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs109115qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr6225700nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si756825nfc.2006.08.20.02.13.03; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjKS-0002If-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:10:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjKS-0002IW-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:10:48 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEjKM-0003e4-S8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:10:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 4470 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 08:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.88]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 08:50:30 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c6c435$39426080$58be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:47:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.398,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: pa4vhf-qrss3-more power Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C445.FC2AF8E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5497 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C445.FC2AF8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor, and others, increased the power. Running 1.5dB more now, wonder = if that's visible. Dick ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C445.FC2AF8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Victor, and others, increased the = power. Running=20 1.5dB more now, wonder if that's visible.
 
Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C445.FC2AF8E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212227415495871019 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3e518630a8c444cd7e66793dacd6a9bd47fbf453 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs111659qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr6295187nff; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si843334nfc.2006.08.20.03.35.51; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkc1-0003Op-V9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:33:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEkc1-0003Og-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:33:01 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEkbx-0004Aj-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:33:01 +0100 Received: from [217.251.226.228] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1GEkZJ2fQF-0004sB; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:30:14 +0200 Message-ID: <001d01c6c443$b78382e0$0100a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: , References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:30:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO on 440 kHz transmits in RTTY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C454.7A3812F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5501 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C454.7A3812F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF and MF group, I have modified the beacon transmitter of DI2BO so that it can transmit = RTTY and other digital modes now. The signal is produced by a Hagenuk = 0.1 - 30 MHz SSB exciter named EX-1001. This signal is fed into the = Debeg 7121 MF transmitter. Today (Sunday, August 20, 2006) the beacon is transmitting permanently = on 440.00 kHz in 50 Baud RTTY with 85 Hz shift (same values as DDH47 on = 147,3 kHz). Transmitted power is 1 Watt ERP. Tomorrow I will switch to = "beacon on demand" mode (a call to the number + 49 - 173 - 64 66 981 = switches the beacon on for 30 minutes, the phone will not pick up).=20 As usual, reception reports are very welcome. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C454.7A3812F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF and MF group,
 
I have modified the beacon = transmitter of=20 DI2BO so that it can transmit RTTY and other digital modes now. The = signal is=20 produced by a Hagenuk 0.1 - 30 MHz SSB exciter named EX-1001. This = signal is fed=20 into the Debeg 7121 MF transmitter.
 
Today (Sunday, August 20, = 2006) the beacon is=20 transmitting permanently on 440.00 kHz in 50 Baud RTTY with 85 Hz shift = (same=20 values as DDH47 on 147,3 kHz). Transmitted power is = 1 Watt=20 ERP. Tomorrow I will switch to "beacon on demand" mode (a call to the = number +=20 49 - 173 - 64 66 981 switches the beacon on for 30 minutes, the phone = will not=20 pick up).
 
As usual, reception reports are very=20 welcome.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6C454.7A3812F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210908972664473885 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ecb73315f2f20568f5319b0a15aceeee936de4e2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs174613qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr6970568nfi; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si4136703nfe.2006.08.05.16.06.33; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9V9w-0002mX-K3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:02:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9V9v-0002mO-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:02:19 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9V9s-0006CL-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:02:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 96480 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 23:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.126.134?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.126.134 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 23:01:07 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.10.7/409]); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c6b8e2$a3087d00$867e7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:58:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.564,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Sigs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6B8EB.049A8A60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5523 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6B8EB.049A8A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Laurence, LF Group, M0BMU also QRV from about 2240utc - using DFCW 60, Centered on 136.3205 = with about 0.25Hz shift Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: LF: RE: Sigs Ok Laurence, =20 I will try to keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running = without supervision so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly about = our midnight. =20 Gary. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 21:50 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: LF: Sigs Ok Gary - Ill leave the grabber on till I wake up -=20 =20 Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be looking again = tomorrow night as well - as long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m = fishing rod is the highest thing on the roof of this hotel! =20 The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the = moment. =20 Cheers Laurence OJ11 Singapore http://www.kl1x.com =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100 Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 OK Laurence, =20 I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. = Start in a couple of minutes. =20 Gud Luk. =20 Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 Name your poison Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here... =20 Laurence in 9v1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100 Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Hi Laurence, =20 I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?=20 =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dcf39 dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - = Laurence - anyone from europe on? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger! Windows Live = Messenger!=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more. It's free! It's free!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6B8EB.049A8A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU also QRV from about 2240utc - using DFCW = 60,=20 Centered on 136.3205 with about 0.25Hz shift
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary -=20 G4WGT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 = 10:16=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Sigs

Ok=20 Laurence,
 
I will try=20 to keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running without = supervision so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly about = our=20 midnight.
 
Gary.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org]On=20 Behalf Of Laurence KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 = 21:50
To:=20 Gary - G4WGT
Subject: LF: Sigs

Ok Gary - = Ill=20 leave the grabber on till I wake up -
 
Ill have to go to = bed now=20 for a few hours but Ill be looking again tomorrow night as well  = - as=20 long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m fishing rod is the highest thing = on the=20 roof of this hotel!
 
The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the = grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment.
 
Cheers
Laurence=20 OJ11
Singapore
http://www.kl1x.com
 




 

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,=20 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

OK=20 Laurence,
 
I am=20 set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. = Start in=20 a couple of minutes.
 
Gud=20 Luk.
 
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of = Laurence=20 KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39
To: Gary -=20 G4WGT
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

Name = your=20 poison Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here...
 
Laurence = in=20 9v1






From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi Laurence,
 
I=20 can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
-----Original Message-----
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It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C6B8EB.049A8A60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210908972664473885 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8905f87e1426df78d6b13e3ae71043e767a072be Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs173572qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr6911133nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4054367nfe.2006.08.05.14.19.46; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9TVz-0002NP-Tn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:16:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9TVz-0002NG-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:16:59 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9TVw-0005QT-03 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:16:59 +0100 Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.98.141]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 22:16:46 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAPmm1ESCeodj Received: from 88-106-98-141.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.98.141]:2300 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9TVl-000Icr-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:16:45 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:16:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.162,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Sigs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6B8DC.D86FA870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5524 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6B8DC.D86FA870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok Laurence, I will try to keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running without supervision so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly about our midnight. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 21:50 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: LF: Sigs Ok Gary - Ill leave the grabber on till I wake up - Ill have to go to bed now for a few hours but Ill be looking again tomorrow night as well - as long as we dont have tstorms as my 8m fishing rod is the highest thing on the roof of this hotel! The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot 60 slow at the moment. Cheers Laurence OJ11 Singapore http://www.kl1x.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100 Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 OK Laurence, I am set up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start in a couple of minutes. Gud Luk. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39 Name your poison Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here... Laurence in 9v1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100 Subject: LF: RE: dcf39 Hi Laurence, I can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq? Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: dcf39 dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. 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Ok=20 Laurence,
 
I will try to=20 keep on past your dawn, I have not yet left Tx running without = supervision=20 so I will keep it going til go to bed possibly about our=20 midnight.
 
Gary.
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence=20 KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 21:50
To: Gary -=20 G4WGT
Subject: LF: Sigs

Ok Gary - Ill = leave the=20 grabber on till I wake up -
 
Ill have to go to bed now for = a few=20 hours but Ill be looking again tomorrow night as well  - as long as = we dont=20 have tstorms as my 8m fishing rod is the highest thing on the roof of = this=20 hotel!
 
The Argo window is 136.318/322 on the grabber, dot = 60 slow=20 at the moment.
 
Cheers
Laurence OJ11
Singapore
http://www.kl1x.com
 




 

From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: = Sat, 5=20 Aug 2006 20:48:41 +0100
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

OK=20 Laurence,
 
I am set=20 up for 136.320KHz, qrss60, 300W, send WGT & cw id at 6wpm. Start = in a=20 couple of minutes.
 
Gud=20 Luk.
 
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of = Laurence=20 KL1X
Sent: 05 August 2006 20:39
To: Gary -=20 G4WGT
Subject: RE: LF: RE: dcf39

Name = your=20 poison Gary - Ive not seem a line yet here...
 
Laurence in = 9v1






From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sat,=20 5 Aug 2006 20:34:54 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: dcf39

Hi=20 Laurence,
 
I=20 can send an hour or so at qrss 60, what freq?
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
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Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF:=20 dcf39

dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at = this=20 time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on?

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It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6B8DC.D86FA870-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211693856999760580 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cd980d437a66e3d2aeb433c7309c95bae8a63ba5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs201073qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr1224155nfn; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si9698157nfa.2006.08.14.06.15.09; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCcCL-0001yw-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCcCK-0001yn-JQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:40 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCcCG-0005Fg-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:40 +0100 Received: from [147.197.215.113] (helo=tucana.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1GCcC7-0002Bn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:27 +0100 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1GCcC1-0005ef-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:21 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c6bfa2$dad44770$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000401c6beb1$e51cda40$18be3b3e@fujitsu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-Information: X-H-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.506 Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF tests/problems? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5527 Dear Dick, LF Group, If the antenna current really is 200mA, then with around 50W of RF, an antenna resistance of over 1k ohm is implied - obviously there is a big disagreement with your antenna impedance measurement. 1k ohm seems like = a very high loss resistance, even for a small antenna. The extra 30 - 40pF of capacity is quite likely to be due to the stray capacitance of the coil and its connections, and would be a reasonable = value for a fairly large diameter coil. Even a single ground rod will have much less than 1k resistance, unless perhaps it is going into desert sand or solid rock or something similar = - in my clay soil, going from several parallel ground rods to a single rod = led to a rise in loss resistance of about 20 ohms. If the resistance really is 1k, and losses actually are occurring in the antenna, earth system, or antenna tuner, you would have a very low Q for = the overall antenna system - about 6, instead of a more normal 50 - 100 or thereabouts. This would make the tuning very "flat". Normally, a change = in the loading inductance of less than 1% would lead to a big mismatch, = leading to very sharp antenna tuning. It would also be hard to achieve a low SWR with 1k or more of loss resistance - if using a separate matching transformer and loading coil, the transformer ratio would have to be = about 1:5, while with a tapped loading coil you would need a big diameter with thin wire to get a match. So if you are using fairly "normal" matching arrangements, and you get a sharp adjustment of resonance, suspicion = must fall on the antenna current meter. You could check this by connecting it = in series between the TX output and dummy load - with 50W into 50R, you = should get 1A RMS of RF current. Clicking sounds from ferrite cored transformers are not unusual - they = are caused my magnetostriction, which is a sort of magnetic version of the piezoelectric effect. A change in flux in the core causes a slight = change in dimensions of the ferrite, producing a sound - SMPS transformers = sometimes "squeal" for this reason. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 13 August 2006 09:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: PA4VHF tests/problems? Thanks Alan for the suggestion. Well while tuning the variometer everything seemed working as it should = be. The SWR nice dropped to zero, while the antennacurrent raised. With help of a separate receiver I was able to figure out that I was certainly not tuning on a harmonic. So, there really might be some extra capacitance produced by the coilwindings etc. About the antenna current, one reason might be an insufficient earth, as = I just connected the ground tap to a groundrod with 5m wire to my groundrod 'somewhere' in the garden... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212153201311464748 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3f3368717db361fbbdcf68f373b8c150189cf8a9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs75685qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr5350209nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si135083nfe.2006.08.19.07.56.14; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GESCs-0006ci-E3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:53:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GESCs-0006cZ-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:53:50 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GESCn-0006DB-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:53:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 13791 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 14:53:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.64]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 14:53:32 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c6c39e$cab8de00$40be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:50:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.433,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: qrv 136.550kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C3AF.8D923420" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5529 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C3AF.8D923420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable things still working...... will be QRT around 15ut Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C3AF.8D923420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
things still working...... will be QRT = around=20 15ut
 
Dick, pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C3AF.8D923420-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211271307826491526 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b7877351a0f1ee754693843f226ed4fb886abb4d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs64072qbh; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr2050498nfl; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si262397nfa.2006.08.09.14.18.42; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAvLB-00085q-Mp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:11:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAvLB-00085h-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:11:49 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.94]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GAvL7-0000h8-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:11:49 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W19 ([207.46.11.182]) by bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:11:38 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.118] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:11:38 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2006 21:11:38.0861 (UTC) FILETIME=[677481D0:01C6BBF8] X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.197,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f0579cd3-941f-4919-a855-f9adf8b1d929_" Subject: LF: Conditions X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5634 --_f0579cd3-941f-4919-a855-f9adf8b1d929_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks like an improvement - I have DCF39 and a similar sounding adn stronge= r sign on 128.93, plus the time sig on 77Khz all CW strength. =20 Looking 136.320Khz dot30 slow for the next couple of hours =20 Laurence OJ11 Singapore _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_f0579cd3-941f-4919-a855-f9adf8b1d929_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Looks like an improvement - I have DCF39 and a similar sounding adn s= tronger sign on 128.93, plus the time sig on 77Khz all CW strength.  
Looking 136.320Khz dot30 slow for the next couple of hours
 
Laurence OJ11
Singapore


Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail.=0A= = --_f0579cd3-941f-4919-a855-f9adf8b1d929_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212257246398903258 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: adda7f6ba30dd9ba05a5886c4c05a10bdb3265e8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs129024qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr6789148nfl; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si1838295nfb.2006.08.20.11.30.00; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEs02-0007xc-7Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:26:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEs01-0007xT-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:26:17 +0100 Received: from mailserver2.webhot2.dk ([83.221.140.45] helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GErzl-0001k5-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:26:17 +0100 Received: from oz7qcdell2 [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A92930C8; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:25:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c6c486$1005dfc0$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> From: "OZ7QC ingolf" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:25:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.917,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Recived in JO65BP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C496.D2138170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5672 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C496.D2138170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Group, Recived in JO65BP at 09:50 UTC 19 August 73 de OZ7QC Ingolf ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C496.D2138170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Group,
 
Recived in JO65BP at 09:50 UTC 19=20 August
 
73 de OZ7QC=20 Ingolf
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C496.D2138170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211320711621711332 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0a24dfbf2885c2efd73c56674d861213225eb29c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs77309qbh; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr2423615nfg; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si2204937nfc.2006.08.10.03.24.08; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GB7YP-00032Q-GG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:14:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GB7YL-00032H-Cj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:14:13 +0100 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GB7YF-0003tu-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:14:13 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55DD1DE91 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:14:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44DB06ED.8030606@online.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:14:05 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.652 Subject: LF: WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5674 Hi John and all ! I listened last night 137.577 in Wolf 10 Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil ! strong static activity 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211035882909870378 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e69f08efc99c6b71840e5c9bc33bdd431701012f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs205439qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr8273770nfi; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si5815925nfc.2006.08.07.03.16.30; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GA22f-0007Jj-SE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GA22f-0007Ja-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:01 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GA22b-0008Lk-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:09:01 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W19 ([207.46.11.182]) by bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Aug 2006 03:08:29 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "J. Allen" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 02:08:29 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2006 10:08:29.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E6B5E00:01C6BA09] X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.032,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7ee82380-ceec-42d3-b1d0-690e7645b5e3_" Subject: RE: LF: VY1JA beacon ~137778.4 QRSS60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5685 --_7ee82380-ceec-42d3-b1d0-690e7645b5e3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh come Jay live a little - 9v1 grabber also on line!=20 =20 Ive got the noise level really controlled now - so fingers crossed. =20 Laurence Oh Jay won won, Singapore http://www.kl1x.com =20 > From: vy1ja@northwestel.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Mon,= 7 Aug 2006 06:53:25 +0000> Subject: LF: VY1JA beacon ~137778.4 QRSS60> > F= riends,> > VY1JA beacon is ~137778.4> QRSS60 ~100W TX output.> CP20kw> > Ag= ain, reports, comments or captures are appreciated.> > Rapido is set to cap= ture the KI0LE and VE7TIL grabbers. These are about the > expected limits = of reception.> > Thanks,> > J.> VY1JA > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_7ee82380-ceec-42d3-b1d0-690e7645b5e3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Oh come Jay live a little - 9v1 grabber also on line!
 
Ive got the noise level really controlled now - so fingers crossed.
 
Laurence
Oh Jay won won, Singapore
http://www.kl1x.com





 


> From: vy1ja@northwestel.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:53:25 +0000
> Subject: LF: VY1JA beac= on ~137778.4 QRSS60
>
> Friends,
>
> VY1JA b= eacon is ~137778.4
> QRSS60 ~100W TX output.=
> CP20kw
>
> Again, reports, comments or=  captures are appreciated.
>
> Rapido is&n= bsp;set to capture the KI0LE and VE7TIL = grabbers.  These are about the 
> expec= ted limits of reception.
>
> Thanks,
> > J.
> VY1JA 
>
>
>



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It's fr= ee!=0A= = --_7ee82380-ceec-42d3-b1d0-690e7645b5e3_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211035882909870378 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b73004fa6767c9aad291b0d86672584ddb350ef4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs200413qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr938608nfv; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si5630870nfc.2006.08.06.23.56.57; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9yzd-0006Ib-I4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:53:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9yzd-0006IS-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:53:41 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9yzX-0001wY-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:53:40 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id B71A6732D2 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <013601c6b9ee$2e8040f0$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:53:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.055,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: VY1JA beacon ~137778.4 QRSS60 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5686 Friends, VY1JA beacon is ~137778.4 QRSS60 ~100W TX output. CP20kw Again, reports, comments or captures are appreciated. Rapido is set to capture the KI0LE and VE7TIL grabbers. These are about the expected limits of reception. Thanks, J. VY1JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210902070774439247 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5d7c88532324041de80dcdab5eab1cb55e626665 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs172296qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr6841421nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si3978412nfc.2006.08.05.12.41.03; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RwP-0001dP-Ow for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:36:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RwP-0001dD-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:36:09 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.93]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9RwK-0003KD-OZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:36:09 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W3 ([207.46.11.166]) by bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:35:37 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.176.200.171] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Alan Melia" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:35:37 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2006 19:35:37.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[53A58670:01C6B8C6] X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9323308d-5a81-49ab-803e-ceaa42dd2c13_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: dcf39 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5852 --_9323308d-5a81-49ab-803e-ceaa42dd2c13_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave - Alan - its not bad - I have peaking S9 but the R75 is doing a good = job - this is a new rx so great to see dcf39 and get it cal'd. Im running= captures on argo 1 on the kl1x.com web site>>. and will take a sniff aroun= d the normal watering holes - all looks pretty quiet line wise> JJY is stro= ng on 60Khz at the mom=20 =20 =20 > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: = Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:25:39 +0100> Subject: LF: Re: dcf39> > Hi That is intere= sting Laurence. Steve's plot of DCF39 definitely seemed> better last night = than for the last few nights and the geomag activity is> fairly quiet.> > N= o Euro noises seen here at present Its about another hours to darkness but>= should be OK now twoards the East.> > Cheers de Alan G3NYK> > ----- Origin= al Message -----> From: Laurence KL1X > To:= > Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09> Subject: LF: d= cf39> > > dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) = -> Laurence - anyone from europe on?> _____________________________________= ____________________________> Try Live.com: where your online world comes t= ogether - with news, sports,> weather, and much more.> http://www.live.com/= getstarted> >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, w= eather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_9323308d-5a81-49ab-803e-ceaa42dd2c13_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Dave - Alan - its not bad - I have peaking S9  but the R75 is do= ing a good job - this is a  new rx so great to see dcf39 and get = it cal'd. Im  running captures on argo 1 on the kl1x.com web sit= e>>. and will take a sniff around the normal watering holes - all loo= ks pretty quiet line wise> JJY is strong on 60Khz at the mom 
 





 


> From: alan.melia@btinternet.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:25:39 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: dc= f39
>
> Hi That is interesting Laurence.&n= bsp;Steve's plot of DCF39 definitely seemed
>= ; better last night than for the last fe= w nights and the geomag activity is
> f= airly quiet.
>
> No Euro noises seen = here at present Its about another hours = to darkness but
> should be OK now twoa= rds the East.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NY= K
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From= : Laurence KL1X <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
&g= t; To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: 05 = ;August 2006 20:09
> Subject: LF: dcf39
> <= BR>>
> dcf39 is cw audible here in = singapore at this time..(0308 local) -
> Lau= rence - anyone from europe on?
> ___________= ______________________________________________________
> Try Liv= e.com: where your online world comes together=  - with news, sports,
> weather, and mu= ch more.
> http://www.live.com/getstarted
>
>
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Windows Live Mail.=0A= = --_9323308d-5a81-49ab-803e-ceaa42dd2c13_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210902070774439247 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b708d26209fa5451e86bf5c6addb02dcbb32d7b8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs171942qbh; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr6853694nfl; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si3972485nfb.2006.08.05.12.30.03; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RmV-0001Uw-Rk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:25:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9RmV-0001Un-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:25:55 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9RmQ-0003IF-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:25:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 41328 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 19:25:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.20.23 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 19:25:44 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c6b8c4$f1457680$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:25:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.754 Subject: LF: Re: dcf39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5853 Hi That is interesting Laurence. Steve's plot of DCF39 definitely seemed better last night than for the last few nights and the geomag activity is fairly quiet. No Euro noises seen here at present Its about another hours to darkness but should be OK now twoards the East. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence KL1X To: Sent: 05 August 2006 20:09 Subject: LF: dcf39 dcf39 is cw audible here in singapore at this time..(0308 local) - Laurence - anyone from europe on? _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, weather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212223286164746965 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5dd57a3c20e66f7f34ef542fa334a8ac403b6651 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs109500qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr6243125nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si1473500nfc.2006.08.20.02.30.13; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjZA-0002TQ-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:26:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEjZ9-0002TH-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:26:00 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEjZ5-0003jC-Im for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:25:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 20151 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2006 09:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Aug 2006 09:05:47 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c6c437$59f4d220$58be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:01:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.390,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6C448.02A51320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5855 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6C448.02A51320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Dave, I am interested to see the difference between my signal, and those from = other PA's. Victor is about 85km to the west from me, so closer to the UK. Compaired to yesterday I'm now running 3.5dB more power, never thought = that would make such a difference! Dick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: LF: Report:- PA4VHF-137.708=20 Hi, Dick.=20 "M" copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB weaker than = PA3FNY. but strong enough for a QSO into "G - land" Keep up the good work! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 20 August 2006 09:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: PA4VHF-137.708=20 I really don't know what's happening Viktor. Yes, I run more power than yesterday, but only 1-1.5dB more or so. Antenna current is just a little bit more. I can crank up the power by another 3-4dB........ But I want to stay in safe area, hi. Thanks again for monitoring! Dick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Victor van kooten=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: LF: RE: PA4VHF-137.708=20 High power Dick?? 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6C448.02A51320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Dave,
 
I am interested to see the difference = between my=20 signal, and those from other PA's.
Victor is about 85km to the west from = me, so closer=20 to the UK.
 
Compaired to yesterday I'm now running = 3.5dB more=20 power, never thought that would make such a difference!
 
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave G3WCB
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 = 10:49=20 AM
Subject: LF: Report:- = PA4VHF-137.708=20

Hi,=20 Dick.
 
"M"=20 copy this morning. I estimate that you are about 6dB weaker than = PA3FNY.=20 but strong enough for a QSO into "G - land"
 
Keep=20 up the good work!
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 Dick
Sent: 20 August 2006 09:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 LF: Re: RE: PA4VHF-137.708

I really don't know what's = happening=20 Viktor.
 
Yes, I run more power than = yesterday, but only=20 1-1.5dB more or so.
Antenna current is just a little = bit=20 more.
I can crank up the power by another = 3-4dB........
 
But I want to stay in safe area,=20 hi.
 
Thanks again for = monitoring!
 
Dick
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Victor van=20 kooten
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, August 20, = 2006 9:57=20 AM
Subject: LF: RE: = PA4VHF-137.708=20

 
High power Dick??
 
73
Victor PA3FNY
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6C448.02A51320-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212185692829811299 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: add60490540ad09c6bfee4b634c6c5b7f9577999 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs107411qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr6172616nfg; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si730049nfc.2006.08.20.00.54.10; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEi5F-00017a-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:51:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEi5E-00017R-Hf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:51:00 +0100 Received: from cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.24] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEi5A-0000Eq-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:51:00 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556FEB.cable.casema.nl [83.85.111.235]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328763F67 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20060820095337.02b83880@pop3.casema.nl> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@pop3.casema.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:54:14 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Dick Rollema In-Reply-To: <018201c6c3e7$307e8ee0$740224d5@jboi0045tiscali> References: <018201c6c3e7$307e8ee0$740224d5@jboi0045tiscali> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 18-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.003,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: PA3NFY/PA0SE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_36904315==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5856 --=====================_36904315==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks for the reports Jeff. 73, Dick, PA0SE At 01:28 20-8-06, you wrote: >19./08/2006 2319z > > > Good night to all, > Reception of PA3FNY (above) and PA0SE (down). >Curious zero beat when both stations are in transmission! (0.97 Hz) >PA0SE ~ 5.5 dB stronger here in JN09tt. > >At good night in all and thank you for transmission. >73: Jeff > > --=====================_36904315==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for the reports Jeff.

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 01:28 20-8-06, you wrote:
19./08/2006   2319z
 
 
 Good night to all,
 Reception of PA3FNY (above) and PA0SE (down).
Curious zero beat when both stations are in transmission! (0.97 Hz)
PA0SE ~ 5.5 dB stronger here in JN09tt.
 
At good night in all and thank you for transmission.
73: Jeff
 
 
--=====================_36904315==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212185692829811299 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 029b6b79ad7cb742e8d2f4fe904fc51ad21aa604 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs94497qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5798057nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si581637nfc.2006.08.19.16.32.41; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEaFS-0004t8-Gp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:29:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEaFR-0004sz-UF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:29:01 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEaFN-0000Af-Ld for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:29:01 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.150.3) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447EB007006DEE17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <018201c6c3e7$307e8ee0$740224d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:28:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.951,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA3NFY/PA0SE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017E_01C6C3E7.2F9392A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5857 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017E_01C6C3E7.2F9392A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_017F_01C6C3E7.2F9392A0" ------=_NextPart_001_017F_01C6C3E7.2F9392A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 19./08/2006 2319z Good night to all, Reception of PA3FNY (above) and PA0SE (down).=20 Curious zero beat when both stations are in transmission! (0.97 Hz) PA0SE ~ 5.5 dB stronger here in JN09tt. At good night in all and thank you for transmission.=20 73: Jeff ------=_NextPart_001_017F_01C6C3E7.2F9392A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
19./08/2006   2319z
 
 
 Good night to = all,
 Reception of PA3FNY (above) and PA0SE = (down).=20
Curious zero beat when both stations are = in=20 transmission! (0.97 Hz)
PA0SE ~ 5.5 dB = stronger here in=20 JN09tt.
 
At good night in all and thank you for = transmission.=20
73: Jeff
 
 
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autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.103,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ON7YD-QRS3.17-DFCW problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C613.7D7D9BE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5957 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C613.7D7D9BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I'm running into problems when trying to make DFCW with ON7YD's = programm. In this mode it seems that the RTS port has a signal (key in QRSS) and = the DTR port (normally ptt) has a signal. I guess the DTR has to key my VXO to get the higher frequency used for = dashes. However, where can I find the ptt signal in this mode? 73 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C613.7D7D9BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
I'm running into problems when trying = to make DFCW=20 with ON7YD's programm.
 
In this mode it seems that the RTS port = has a=20 signal (key in QRSS) and the DTR port (normally ptt) has a = signal.
 
I guess the DTR has to key my VXO to = get the higher=20 frequency used for dashes.
 
However, where can I find the ptt = signal in this=20 mode?
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C613.7D7D9BE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211538136891779295 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9cbbe5ab4f74fe7a6cb56bb29e71cc3be08c1094 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs154099qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr5198289nfh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si4850195nfb.2006.08.12.13.00.03; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GBzcH-0006cN-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:57:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GBzcG-0006cE-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:57:52 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GBzcC-0003bs-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:57:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 10619 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2006 19:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.62.54 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2006 19:56:41 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c6be49$6d97e900$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003901c6be46$2f6871c0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:56:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.741 Subject: LF: Re: Fw: PA4VHF small backyard tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5966 Hi Dick, you have a big problem somewhere there I can get 200mA of antenna current with 2 watts RF . If you your TX is 80% efficient and generating abt 80w and your total resistance is measured as 60 ohms you should get 1.2 amps or close to that . 6.8 mH is way to low for that capacity which suggests you have a funny on the tuning maybe and interaction with the transformer. You could try tuning the antenna alone (no matching transformers) with the bridge, and see it it tunes in the same place. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: PA4VHF small backyard tests Well, changed the antenna and fired up my little teststation this afternoon in my backyard. Antenna: 3 wires 7.5m long spaced 40cm each , vertical part about 6m long also 3 parallel wires spaced 40cm each. Feed is about 2m from the far end. Measured about 170pF and 60 Ohm (?) with bridge, noisesource/136kHz oscillator and RX. With variometer and loading coil connected, I needed about 6,7mH to tune things, where I expected to find around 8,0mH. Somewhere I got around 30-40pF extra. Maybe internal capacity of the loading coils??? With 100Watt DC-input I got about 200mA antenna current sofar. Remarkable: when switching TX on/off, I could hear the first step-up transformer clicking (it's a 58mm 3C85 core) is this usual??? The transmitter used is my little testbox with an additional amplifier with IRFP360 running at around 12-14V, 6-9Amp. Mal has heard me before with this transmitter connected to a 15m spiral toploaded vertical.......... 73 Dick, PA4VHF (JO32eg) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211543738819029833 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73682d44ab9c9843c0c39886bd31126ae5bc4c9c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs155661qbh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5467081nfj; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si9264895nfa.2006.08.12.14.29.06; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GC0yb-000796-SQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GC0yb-00078x-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:01 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GC0yW-0004B0-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:25:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 73874 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2006 21:23:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.38.196 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2006 21:23:50 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c6be55$9a337900$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <006b01c6be49$d00f6e00$33be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:20:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.881 Subject: LF: Re: email problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6041 No Sorry, total message size must not exceed aboyr 32kB on this one. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 12 August 2006 20:59 Subject: LF: email problems hmm I tried several times to send pictures, only 100-200kB total for the whole mail, but didn't arrive...... Is it not allowed? Dick, pa4vhf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212082404915668124 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a8f5f2df440fa492dde969f95b2178bc519a49f3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs40728qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr4522293nfi; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si254276nfa.2006.08.18.13.10.57; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEAZQ-00072N-MB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:03:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEAZQ-00072E-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:03:56 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEAZM-0001R0-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:03:56 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.152.47) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.105.2) id 447EB007006D025E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:03:39 +0200 Message-ID: <001101c6c301$19fe07e0$2f9824d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:58:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 08/18/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.046,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA0SE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C300.9C13D6C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6066 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6C300.9C13D6C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C6C300.9C13D6C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C6C300.9C13D6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 18./08/2006 1956z Hello all! Good signal from PA0SE on 137700 this night. Audible ~8dB above noise. Mny QRN in JN09tt (sri the TCXO is not hot!) 73: Jeff F6CWN ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C6C300.9C13D6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
18./08/2006   1956z
 
Hello all!
 
 Good signal from PA0SE on = 137700 this=20 night.
Audible ~8dB above = noise.
Mny QRN in JN09tt
(sri the TCXO is not = hot!)
 
73: Jeff  F6CWN
 
 
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(VPS 0633-4, 18-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.068,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: QRSS 60 by PA0SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6092 To All from PA0SE I will be transmitting QRSS 60 at 136321 Hz on Saturday August 19 starting at 2100 UTC or a bit later (depending on the time we return from a visit to friends) till Sunday August 20 at about 0700 UTC. 73, Dick, PA0SE JO22GD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213128271046031201 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: eeb8a9cfe1a7cf5a714faf963fe25a782f58d587 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs74665qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr2505190nfi; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 24si317huf.2006.08.30.02.14.31; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIM1r-0007ld-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:06:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIM1r-0007lU-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:06:35 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIM1o-0008TC-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:06:35 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 2C0B9740C4 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <002801c6cc13$7cadaec0$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:05:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.023,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Scott's amp is on at VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6093 Friends, Scott's amp is on at VY1JA. It will need to be hooked up to the relay and will need the SWR protective circuit added, but for now it is going. If you see any blips in the band it will likely be my CW and testing. J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211585555884145119 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4dc6b62682bf8f51a7e576000bbd51811a0e846b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs166695qbh; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr5729856nfl; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si10069343nfc.2006.08.13.01.33.46; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCBK4-0002rx-Bm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:27:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCBK3-0002ro-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:27:51 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCBK0-0003tH-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:27:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 25900 invoked by uid 0); 13 Aug 2006 08:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.24]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 13 Aug 2006 08:27:41 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c6beb1$e51cda40$18be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <003901c6be46$2f6871c0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> <001401c6be49$6d97e900$0300a8c0@lark> <007001c6be4a$05f2e6a0$33be3b3e@fujitsu> <004c01c6be55$9b1e7540$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:23:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.145,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: PA4VHF tests/problems? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6128 Thanks Alan for the suggestion. Well while tuning the variometer everything seemed working as it should be. The SWR nice dropped to zero, while the antennacurrent raised. With help of a separate receiver I was able to figure out that I was certainly not tuning on a harmonic. So, there really might be some extra capacitance produced by the coilwindings etc. About the antenna current, one reason might be an insufficient earth, as I just connected the ground tap to a groundrod with 5m wire to my groundrod 'somewhere' in the garden. I built up the transmitter again, but now connected to a 50Ohm dummyload, instead of the coil antenna etc. Used exact the same coaxial cables. SWR/PWR meter shows same value as with the loading coil/antenna connected, and also DC input power seems the same. So, that gives me reason to believe it's ok. Question however is the exact amount of power, hi. I am measuring 140 Volt top-top on a oscilloscope parallel with the 50 Ohm dummy load. (at the dummy load) DC input is 13.0V/7.5A (that's 97.5W DC input) For some reason I can't figure out the right formula to calculate the power into the dummy load. I get wrong figures al the time. I'm more a practical man, hi 73 Dick, PA4VHF my testfrequency as always is around 136.1kHz from an X-tal oscillator/divider. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212129402582574432 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 19d16f33fd60aa1a48c4954ae006faa86353ec0e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs63299qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr5038556nfv; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si935084nfa.2006.08.19.01.37.58; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMIu-0003PD-F4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:35:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMIu-0003P4-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:35:40 +0100 Received: from cas-mta4-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.32] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEMIr-0007LJ-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:35:40 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556FEB.cable.casema.nl [83.85.111.235]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64FD41D3 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:35:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20060819103953.0363f890@pop3.casema.nl> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@pop3.casema.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:44:06 +0200 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0633-4, 18-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.000,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: PI4VPO/Lt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6305 Just worked PI4VPO/Lt operating from a light tower. Their signal was many dB over S9. Not surprising with their 55 m high aerial. But I am disappointed at the little response to their CQ's. They must be heard easily over a large part of Europe. 73, Dick, PA0SE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212166078277452179 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4ec7207fb90fd1e0416846d32db5ca569d6dc64b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86250qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr5593603nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si514353nfe.2006.08.19.12.19.43; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWJc-0001Hf-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:17:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWJc-0001HW-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:17:04 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEWJZ-0004T6-FH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:17:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 8598 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2006 19:16:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.120.67 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2006 19:16:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c6c3c4$0a139660$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> <003501c6c3bb$c425cc70$4ae4fc3e@g3kev> <44E75F16.2070805@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:16:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.514 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6511 It doesnt matter Wolf do I think that a divisor of 26 is really required so the final divide by 2 will square the signal up nicely Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Wolf DL4YHF To: Sent: 19 August 2006 19:57 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz > hamilton mal schrieb: > > I must admit that I do not know of a cmos device that divides by 13 by > > convential means. I wonder what the trick might be? > > de MAL/G3KEV > > > > > Hi Mal, > > Try the CMOS4536 or similar. It's a cheap "programmable counter/divider" > - 16 pin standard DIL package. The 4636 can be "programmed" (by applying > a 4-bit binary number to the inputs A,B,C,D) to divide by > 1,2,3,4,5,6,7....16. > Downside: Because of the odd ratio, the output won't have 50% duty > cycle. But a simple LC filter can restore a "clean" signal. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212166078277452179 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb5241f7903eebf06b389c14b525131c334a2cd6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs85321qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5591652nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si58942nfc.2006.08.19.12.01.11; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEW0k-0000lU-As for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:57:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEW0j-0000lL-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:57:33 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEW0f-0004Js-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:57:33 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GEW0e-0007Nu-O9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:57:28 +0200 Received: from p5486826f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.130.111] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GEW0e-0000Oc-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: <44E75F16.2070805@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:57:27 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> <003501c6c3bb$c425cc70$4ae4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <003501c6c3bb$c425cc70$4ae4fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.810 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6512 hamilton mal schrieb: > I must admit that I do not know of a cmos device that divides by 13 by > convential means. I wonder what the trick might be? > de MAL/G3KEV > > Hi Mal, Try the CMOS4536 or similar. It's a cheap "programmable counter/divider" - 16 pin standard DIL package. The 4636 can be "programmed" (by applying a 4-bit binary number to the inputs A,B,C,D) to divide by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7....16. Downside: Because of the odd ratio, the output won't have 50% duty cycle. But a simple LC filter can restore a "clean" signal. 73, Wolf DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212166078277452179 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 804ecae3330c1ebca62e9be4e2d3948165924bed Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs83616qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr5536611nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si673769nfb.2006.08.19.11.23.01; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEVQ8-00008M-DI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:19:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEVQ8-00008D-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:19:44 +0100 Received: from smtpout0136.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.136] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEVQ3-0007E0-OF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:19:43 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.74) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF9003267F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:17:41 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c6c3bb$c260c3e0$4ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:40:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.999 Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6513 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz > Thanks for this info Dave. > Of course I have these x-tals; they also been used regulary for 80m fox > hunting TX's. > Biggest problem however, is to divide by 13........ > I do not have to much schematics about dividers. > > I found another solution, hi > I took an 4.433MHz X-tal and tuned it down to 4406kHz.... I have a couple of 4433.619 khz xtals, was also thinking of pulling these down in freq. How far down did u get and was it stable enough when divided. de Mal/G3KEV > That divided by 16 will give me the 275.4kHz I need to drive the rest of the > circuit. > > Any schematics/links about how to divide by 13 are welcome. > > I'll be on this afternoon 14-15ut on 136.550kHz +/- 50Hz with CW 8wpm beacon > mode. > > Maybe, one of these days my signal might show up around 137.7 in QRSS > 3...... > > Dick, pa4vhf > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212166078277452179 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 22183b9711475a48f4ef46519bd3d270e8e008fb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs83550qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr5535652nfv; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si440973nfe.2006.08.19.11.20.55; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEVOP-0008W7-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:17:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEVOO-0008Vy-OO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:17:56 +0100 Received: from smtpout0134.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.134] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEVOK-00047T-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:17:56 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.74) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73AF9003267F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:17:44 +0000 Message-ID: <003501c6c3bb$c425cc70$4ae4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <002001c6c387$9d209f80$06be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:17:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.922,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6514 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: QRSS QRG's > 3579.25 kHz > Thanks for this info Dave. > Of course I have these x-tals; they also been used regulary for 80m fox > hunting TX's. > Biggest problem however, is to divide by 13........ > I do not have to much schematics about dividers. > > I found another solution, hi > I took an 4.433MHz X-tal and tuned it down to 4406kHz...... > That divided by 16 will give me the 275.4kHz I need to drive the rest of the > circuit. > > Any schematics/links about how to divide by 13 are welcome. I must admit that I do not know of a cmos device that divides by 13 by convential means. I wonder what the trick might be? de MAL/G3KEV > > I'll be on this afternoon 14-15ut on 136.550kHz +/- 50Hz with CW 8wpm beacon > mode. > > Maybe, one of these days my signal might show up around 137.7 in QRSS > 3...... > > Dick, pa4vhf > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211699944295499319 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1ded70dca187c6250e6fd74409780da037f30269 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs204828qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr1373049nfj; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si3283070nfa.2006.08.14.07.51.55; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCdh4-0002Yo-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:45:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCdh3-0002Yf-VM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:45:30 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCdgy-0005rR-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:45:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 28212 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2006 14:44:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.76]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Aug 2006 14:44:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c6bfaf$a801a560$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:39:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.571,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: PA4VHF beaconing 136.30kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BFC0.298A66C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6582 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BFC0.298A66C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right now with 50W until around 15.15utc ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BFC0.298A66C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
right now with 50W until around=20 15.15utc
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6BFC0.298A66C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210994907464381444 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 69764fd660935ac64cbf0f709fbd9be832b76fe2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191465qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr441107nfl; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si5096181nfc.2006.08.06.13.05.39; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9onI-0002Ta-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9onI-0002TR-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:16 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G9onF-0003QH-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:16 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2006 21:00:07 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAFrn1USKXg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:2783 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9on4-000GFX-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:00:02 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:00:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.132,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: WGT Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6627 Hi All, Just starting beacon sending 'WGT' on 136,319.5 Hz give or take a little. QRSS60, 400 watts. Reports welcome specially from outside UK. I have moved freq slightly since last night as I saw a signal on Hartmuts grabber very very close to my freq (136,320,0 Hz) which is also visible tonight. Regards, Gary - G4WGT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210997810937361482 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ca8f65e1d0491ba7b1c6f68c51d37e04a9bd0353 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191883qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr7698268nfk; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si5131390nfb.2006.08.06.13.51.48; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pZI-0002w2-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:49:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pZH-0002vt-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6628 Hi Gary its well after dawn there now but his Argo clock looks a bit off (even allowing for US format) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Sent: 06 August 2006 21:23 Subject: LF: KL1X Grabber > Looks like Laurence is not staying up tonight (morning in Singapore) as the > grabber is not running. > > Gary - G4WGT > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211225010260475365 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 32a1939730f034e415d4f268869541b506fe4ef4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs44250qbh; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr1129807nfj; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si819884nfc.2006.08.09.02.03.02; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAjsF-0004Pm-2n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:57:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAjsE-0004Pd-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:57:10 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAjs9-00024s-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:57:10 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2006 09:55:26 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAACA92USCeod2AgsRBg Received: from 88-106-110-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.232]:2187 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GAjqX-000FUH-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:55:25 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.097,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C6BB99.ED066ED0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6630 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C6BB99.ED066ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Laurence, I have looked at my freq lists & there are 2 Datatrak frequencies shown nearby at 133.20KHz in UK & 133.24KHz in Argentina, having listened to the UK one it seems to have a sort of pulsing warble. Pleased you managed to get the mini-whip parts, I think it is so good I am mainly using it instead og the G3LNP loop beacauce its not as restricted on frequency coverage & so small. 73 Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 09 August 2006 03:42 To: lowfer@lwca.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) Its Singapore's national day (41 years on 9th Aug) and we have had natural fireworks here as well as man made, so I took the lightning aiming point off the top of the hotel roof until the bad weather passes. The vertical is some 20ft above the highest lightning rod and I cant afford the law suit. As well as that LF is poorer than off late and Ive lost some of my longer range ndb markers - Scott - I have a birdie on 133.1 Khz or so, warbles away most of the time but I dont think its that Canadian - suspect some controller somewhere here. Managed to get all the bits for the PAORDT Mini-whip here including the 2N5106's, but again I had to go to all the components shops at the Mecca for all radio hams the Sim Lim area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing (1.5 sing to 1 usd) 73 Laurence OJ11 (we get a day off work) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C6BB99.ED066ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Laurence,
 
I have looked=20 at my freq lists & there are 2 Datatrak frequencies shown nearby at=20 133.20KHz in UK & 133.24KHz in Argentina, having listened to the UK = one=20 it seems to have a sort of pulsing warble.
 
Pleased you=20 managed to get the mini-whip parts, I think it is so good I am mainly = using it=20 instead og the G3LNP loop beacauce its not as restricted on frequency = coverage=20 & so small.
 
73
 
Gary -=20 G4WGT
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence=20 KL1X
Sent: 09 August 2006 03:42
To: lowfer@lwca.org; = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Tstorms in Singapore = (no=20 surprise there)

Its Singapore's national day (41 = years on=20 9th Aug) and we have had natural fireworks here as well as man made, so = I took=20 the lightning aiming point off the top of the hotel roof until the bad = weather=20 passes. The vertical is some 20ft above the highest lightning rod and I = cant=20 afford the law suit.  As well as that LF is poorer than off late = and Ive=20 lost some of my longer range ndb markers -
 
Scott - I have a = birdie=20 on 133.1 Khz  or so, warbles away most of the time but I dont think = its that Canadian - suspect some controller somewhere=20 here.  
 
Managed to get all the bits for the = PAORDT=20  Mini-whip here including the 2N5106's, but again I had to go = to all=20 the components shops at the Mecca for all radio hams the Sim Lim = area .. 4=20 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing  (1.5 sing to 1=20 usd)
 
73
Laurence OJ11
(we get a day off work)


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more. It's=20 free! It's free! ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C6BB99.ED066ED0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212091709897938390 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 51719a58489b9716753146241b7f882031413f16 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs46726qbh; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr4655984nfj; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si341110nfa.2006.08.18.15.38.52; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GECvA-0008I4-NE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:34:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GECvA-0008Hv-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:34:32 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.75]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GECv4-0000yc-Oa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:34:32 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W1 ([207.46.11.164]) by bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:33:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [222.64.2.253] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:33:59 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2006 22:33:59.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[66192AA0:01C6C316] X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.133,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_71ae0d6d-5562-44bb-b2a0-57459410a3f0_" Subject: LF: condx X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6690 --_71ae0d6d-5562-44bb-b2a0-57459410a3f0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DCF39 seen here from 1809z till 2143z - signals were coming and going and b= elow audible - The signal here was seen some 24mins before sundown at Magde= burg and lost at my dawn. Theres hope! =20 Laurence PM01 Shanghai Mini whip on a 7m fishing pole shoved out horizontally off a 3rd floor scre= ened balcony =20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_71ae0d6d-5562-44bb-b2a0-57459410a3f0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= DCF39 seen here from 1809z till 2143z - signals were coming and going= and below audible - The signal here was seen some 24mins before sundown at= Magdeburg and lost at my dawn. Theres hope!
 
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Windows Live Messenger!=0A= = --_71ae0d6d-5562-44bb-b2a0-57459410a3f0_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213137736945479131 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7ab0b3dbc4bac6b8bf5b44b2a818b272913f6ff5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs106116qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.202.19 with SMTP id z19mr3098333nff; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si703837nfc.2006.08.30.10.02.24; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GITLf-0000gb-T0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:55:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GITLf-0000gS-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:55:31 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GITLb-00045j-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:55:31 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1GITLa-0001GI-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:55:26 +0200 Received: from p5486872f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.135.47] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #2) id 1GITLa-0000jk-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:55:26 +0200 Message-ID: <44F5C2F7.90909@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:55:19 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.768 Subject: LF: RE: activety 'poll/enquete' for LX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6692 Hi Dick, The last activation of LX on 136 kHz is so long ago (guess it was LX1PD), that anyone will be keen to work you. For me, any mode, and any QRG would be ok. I think DFCW3 -if possible- could speed things up. CW may be tough for stations more than a few hundred km's away if the ground is poor - which you never know before setting up the transmitter and LF antenna. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1213137736945479131 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d530b0425f6f160aa583fab7027411d68934a82c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs83034qbh; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr2663233nfi; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si196344nfc.2006.08.30.04.45.00; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GIOR5-0008GK-Rh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:40:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GIOR5-0008GB-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:40:47 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.orange.nl ([193.252.22.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GIOR1-0001Eg-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:40:47 +0100 Received: from pa3fnyzus90725 (cd4400af3.cable.wanadoo.nl [212.64.10.243]) by mwinf6002.orange.nl (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 6D3ED700008F for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:40:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060830114037447.6D3ED700008F@mwinf6002.orange.nl From: "Victor van kooten" To: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:40:31 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001101c6cbb0$42de8600$27be3b3e@fujitsu> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.060,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: activety 'poll/enquete' for LX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CC39.DCA1C7F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6693 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CC39.DCA1C7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dick, Of course I am interested 1 Yes (new country) 2 QRSS/DFCW 3 Any time 4 Any frequency 73 Victor PA3FNY -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Dick Verzonden: dinsdag 29 augustus 2006 23:15 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: activety 'poll/enquete' for LX Hello all, As you might know I'm planning to be QRV from LX on 136kHz in October. I will be one of the members of a group activating all HF bands including WARC from LX. Therefore operating time on 136kHz is a bit limited, to certain time slots or so. I want to be QRV at times that most people can operate on 136kHz in order to use the time I have as efficient as possible. So, I have some questions to the LF operators across Europe and by answering them you can help me to plan the best operating times, modes and frequencies. 1. are you interested in working LX on 136kHz 2. which modes can you work? CW, QRSS and/or DFCW? 3. prefered operation times? you can give more times, best time at first, etc. 4. if you have a Xtal controlled TX, please give the frequency. (I guess, if it's the case, mostly it might be 136.533kHz, ROPEX-TX....) Thanks sofar for your help. 73 Dick, PA4VHF for more info about LX-activety look at : www.pa6z.nl ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CC39.DCA1C7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Dick,
 
Of=20 course I am interested
1 Yes=20 (new country)
2=20 QRSS/DFCW
3 Any=20 time
4 Any=20 frequency
 
73=20 Victor
PA3FNY
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens=20 Dick
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 augustus 2006 = 23:15
Aan:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: activety = 'poll/enquete'=20 for LX

Hello all,
 
As you might know I'm planning to be = QRV from LX=20 on 136kHz in October.
I will be one of the members of a = group=20 activating all HF bands including WARC
from LX.
Therefore operating time on 136kHz is = a bit=20 limited, to certain time slots or so.
 
I want to be QRV at times  that = most people=20 can operate on 136kHz in order to
use the time I have as efficient as=20 possible.
 
So, I have some questions to the LF = operators=20 across Europe and by answering them
you can help me to plan the = best operating times, modes and frequencies.
 
1.  are you interested in = working LX on=20 136kHz
2.  which modes can you = work? =20 CW, QRSS and/or DFCW?
3. prefered operation times?  = you can give=20 more times, best time at first, etc.
4. if you have a Xtal controlled = TX, please=20 give the frequency.
    (I guess, if it's = the case,=20 mostly it might be 136.533kHz, ROPEX-TX....)
 
Thanks sofar for your = help.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
 
 
for more info about LX-activety look = at : =20 www.pa6z.nl
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6CC39.DCA1C7F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212456547701322343 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4560ddaddafe13943af3e7d595310abebcaa3cf5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs266926qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr1154291nfg; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si844215nfb.2006.08.22.16.17.48; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfSc-0003wD-He for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:15:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFfSc-0003w4-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:15:06 +0100 Received: from mx2.mcn.com.au ([203.18.237.62] helo=mx2.foxtel.com.au) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFfSW-0003g0-KY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:15:05 +0100 Received: from SYDEXB02.ent.foxtel.com.au (sydexb02.ent.foxtel.com.au) by mx2.foxtel.com.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:15:43 +1000 Received: from SYDEXM02.ent.foxtel.com.au ([10.12.1.107]) by SYDEXB02.ent.foxtel.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:14:24 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:14:24 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001201c6c5fb$8e917b80$0300a8c0@lark> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Alarming message Thread-Index: AcbF/GqpUBD0JUSpSp6G3H+vY1ICcgAQ8dNQ From: "Nick Mclean \(SYD\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2006 23:14:24.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5081450:01C6C640] X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.524,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: RE: Re: Alarming message X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6703 Alan G3NYK wrote; "HF?? Nobody uses HF for communication these days....do they ??" Many countries around the world (including Australia) use HF for over the horizon radar ( OTHR ). I don't think the military of those countries are going to like having HF shut down for a few days to a week. Just my $0.02 worth, 73's Nic McLean VK2KXN / VK5ZAT This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you are not the intend= ed recipient, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the= information in any way, and notify the sender immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and = may not be the views of FOXTEL, unless specifically stated. No warranty is = made that the e-mail or attachment (s) are free from computer viruses or ot= her defects. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ba84c9304194e6a278624683e9a3e9b0d77123d9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86042qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr5593361nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si671165nfb.2006.08.19.12.14.22; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWEU-0000za-Na for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:11:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWEU-0000zR-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:11:46 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEWER-0004Oj-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:11:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 17557 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 19:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.116]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 19:10:38 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c6c3c2$b14ca5e0$74be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <001501c6c0fb$95f62a60$79be3b3e@fujitsu> <200608190042.05715.smtp01@email.it> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:07:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.116,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6767 rr, I am already using it Claudio, works fine. 73 Dick, pa4vhf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 76ca73db6216544903407e9b0ba618447c25d55c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs76791qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr5371902nfj; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si20472nfb.2006.08.19.08.22.19; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GESad-0006y5-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:18:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GESad-0006xw-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:18:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.email.it ([80.247.70.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GESaZ-0006P8-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:18:23 +0100 Received: by smtp-out1.email.it (Email.it, from userid 101) id 300481C8033; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ppp-147-215.30-151.libero.it (ppp-147-215.30-151.libero.it [151.30.215.147])by smtp-out1.email.it (Email.it) with ESMTP id 699D31C8035for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:17:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:42:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <001501c6c0fb$95f62a60$79be3b3e@fujitsu> In-Reply-To: <001501c6c0fb$95f62a60$79be3b3e@fujitsu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608190042.05715.smtp01@email.it> X-Copyrighted-Material: Please visit http://www.email.it/ita/privacy.html X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6768 On Wednesday 16 August 2006 08:16, Dick wrote: > I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2PII or an other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple components. > Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and can't find it back on internet either. > Anyone? > Hallo Dick! It's not a PLL it's a conversion VXO using two easy to buy xtals. The schematic is on my web - see signature 73 de Claudio, IK2PII -- Claudio Pozzi - Happy Linux User - http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Scegli il tuo canale musicale con un click! * Entra in www.radiosnj.com Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5178&d=19-8 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c50de1754b93fe089fe75b9c708f79260c5f0085 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs284150qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr512619nfk; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si3356613nfc.2006.08.16.03.22.56; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDIRA-0003AT-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:15:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDIRA-0003AK-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:15:48 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDIR4-0008Qa-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:15:47 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.527.5f2fb30 (42808) for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <527.5f2fb30.32144a41@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:15:29 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.697,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1155723329" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6769 -------------------------------1155723329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dick. If it's simplicity: performance, then it's hard to beat Johan's DDS using the AD9832. I once did a PCB for that which included all sorts of filtering and PSK modulation. But if you leave off all that optional stuff it really comes down to 4 components. 1) A PIC controller 2) The DDS 3) A buffer amp 4) An LCD display. No boards left now but it can be built on small pitch veroboard. Johan's link is _http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41522/minidds/minidds.html_ (http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41522/minidds/minidds.html) While the picture of my version is at: _http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/dds.htm_ (http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/dds.htm) Note that in the final version of my PCB apx 60% of the board area / components are not required for simple applications. Good to see you getting results with the TX Regards David In a message dated 16/08/2006 06:21:27 GMT Standard Time, knaap159@zonnet.nl writes: I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2PII or an other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple components. Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and can't find it back on internet either. Anyone? I've found a design from OK1DX, but I have troubles to print the schematic diagram, it will not fit on one page...... 73 Dick, pa4vhf -------------------------------1155723329 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Dick.
 
If it's simplicity: performance, then it's hard to beat Johan's DD= S=20 using the AD9832.
 
I once did a PCB for that which included all sorts of filtering and PSK= =20 modulation. But if you leave off all that optional stuff it really comes dow= n=20 to 4 components.
 
1) A PIC controller
2) The DDS
3) A buffer amp
4) An LCD display.
 
No boards left now but it can be built on small pitch=20 veroboard.
 
Johan's link is   http://home4.= swipnet.se/~w-41522/minidds/minidds.html
 
While the picture of my version is at:  http://www.g0mrf.freeserve= .co.uk/dds.htm
 
Note that in the final version of my PCB apx 60% of the board area /=20 components are not required for simple applications.
 
Good to see you getting results with the TX
 
Regards
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 16/08/2006 06:21:27 GMT Standard Time,=20 knaap159@zonnet.nl writes:
I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2= PII or=20 an other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple=20 components.
Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and ca= n't find=20 it back on internet either.
Anyone?
 
I've found a design from OK1DX, but I hav= e=20 troubles to print the schematic diagram, it will not fit on one=20 page......
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
 
-------------------------------1155723329-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8a05e3283243521f3ac2584cc2093b38db49109b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs283997qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr491542nfh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si3345294nfe.2006.08.16.03.14.40; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDIEh-000301-MH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:02:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDIEh-0002zs-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:02:55 +0100 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDIEe-0007WI-10 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:02:55 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.54a.51efc680 (42808) for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:02:40 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <54a.51efc680.32144740@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:02:40 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.947,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1155722560" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6770 -------------------------------1155722560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 16/08/2006 06:21:27 GMT Standard Time, knaap159@zonnet.nl writes: I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2PII or an other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple components. Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and can't find it back on internet either. Anyone? I've found a design from OK1DX, but I have troubles to print the schematic diagram, it will not fit on one page...... 73 Dick, pa4vhf -------------------------------1155722560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 16/08/2006 06:21:27 GMT Standard Time,=20 knaap159@zonnet.nl writes:
I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2= PII or=20 an other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple=20 components.
Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and ca= n't find=20 it back on internet either.
Anyone?
 
I've found a design from OK1DX, but I hav= e=20 troubles to print the schematic diagram, it will not fit on one=20 page......
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
 
-------------------------------1155722560-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7f3ddda948e5b1d5ef43d30e1edf70a26048738a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs279317qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr311487nfg; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si3142064nfb.2006.08.16.00.09.31; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDFRN-0001Xc-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDFRN-0001XT-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:49 +0100 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GDFRH-0007V7-Rh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:48 +0100 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060816070337.PGBV15018.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:37 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060816070337.WVLN23938.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:37 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:03:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44E2D152.30127.4F623A@localhost> In-reply-to: <001501c6c0fb$95f62a60$79be3b3e@fujitsu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.166,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6771 Links to the IK2PII design and others can be found on my site at: http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/links.htm de Mike, G3XDV ============= On 16 Aug 2006 at 8:16, Dick wrote: > I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2PII or an other I-station for > 136kHz which uses rather simple components. Unfortunatly I lost the > schematic, and can't find it back on internet either. Anyone? > > I've found a design from OK1DX, but I have troubles to print the > schematic diagram, it will not fit on one page...... > > 73 > > Dick, pa4vhf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211849335528080436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0782fd32524740e51e08b77da7dd77f19e72e871 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs278255qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr264692nfi; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si3090816nfb.2006.08.15.23.26.25; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDElY-00016z-P2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:20:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDElY-00016q-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:20:36 +0100 Received: from smtp.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.46] helo=smtp1.versatel.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDElV-00061S-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:20:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 3971 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2006 06:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.121]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 16 Aug 2006 06:20:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c6c0fb$95f62a60$79be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:16:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.162,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: ik2pii pll for 136kHz? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C10C.4C12B2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6772 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C10C.4C12B2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thouht to have seen a PLL design by IK2PII or an other I-station for = 136kHz which uses rather simple components. Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and can't find it back on internet = either. Anyone? I've found a design from OK1DX, but I have troubles to print the = schematic diagram, it will not fit on one page...... 73 Dick, pa4vhf ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C10C.4C12B2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thouht to have seen a PLL design by = IK2PII or an=20 other I-station for 136kHz which uses rather simple = components.
Unfortunatly I lost the schematic, and = can't find=20 it back on internet either.
Anyone?
 
I've found a design from OK1DX, but I = have troubles=20 to print the schematic diagram, it will not fit on one = page......
 
73
 
Dick, pa4vhf
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6C10C.4C12B2E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211902910704958036 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9064d141a5ad303244530f5105a5ea62ef283ce7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs310832qbh; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr1239405nfg; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si4143399nfe.2006.08.16.13.37.58; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GDS54-00073z-Re for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:33:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GDS54-00073q-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:33:38 +0100 Received: from mailserver2.webhot2.dk ([83.221.140.45] helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDS50-0003zK-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:33:38 +0100 Received: from oz7qcdell2 [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A10F12E0; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:33:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c6c173$36aa7b60$0300a8c0@oz7qcdell2> From: "OZ7QC ingolf" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:33:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.974,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: FNY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C183.F9F55800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6773 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C6C183.F9F55800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C6C183.F9F55800" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C6C183.F9F55800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi group, Recived this at 16-08-2006 03:57 UTC in JO65BP Vy 73 OZ7QC Ingolf ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C6C183.F9F55800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi group,
 
Recived this at 16-08-2006 03:57 UTC in = JO65BP
 
Vy 73 OZ7QC = Ingolf
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(gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5ah-0004ui-6R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:32:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5ag-0004uY-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:32:46 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GD5ac-0005N3-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:32:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 34764 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2006 20:32:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.45.134?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.45.134 with login) by smtp804.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2006 20:32:34 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.405 [268.10.10/418]); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:29:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c6c0a9$832fed00$862d8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:29:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.935,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C0B1.E4B13180" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6847 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C0B1.E4B13180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Laurence, LF Group, M0BMU now QRV from about 2020utc, DFCW60, centred on 136.3205kHz Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL1X=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:00 PM Subject: LF: last night Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow so last night for LF = listening - conditions were very good to Eu yesterday after Eu dusk with = strong sigs from dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no one seemed = to be on... =20 Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 +- 4 at Eu dusk - I missed West = coast US this evening cos of work. =20 Laurence in 9v1 Singapore slinger running on argo 1 http://kl1.com =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more. It's free! It's free!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C0B1.E4B13180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
M0BMU now QRV from about 2020utc, DFCW60, = centred on=20 136.3205kHz
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL1X
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 = 3:00=20 PM
Subject: LF: last night

Im being turfed out of this hotel tomorrow so last = night for LF=20 listening - conditions were very good to Eu yesterday after Eu dusk = with=20 strong sigs from dcf39/hbg and a swarm of broadcasts, but no one = seemed to be=20 on...
 
Ill be listening again tonight 136,320 +- 4 at Eu = dusk - I=20 missed West coast US this evening cos of work.
 
Laurence = in=20 9v1
Singapore slinger running on argo 1 http://kl1.com
 


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and = more.=20 It's free! It's free!
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6C0B1.E4B13180-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212131476830928406 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9aeb9205dc06582f921fc234d194a2955d984d4e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs63969qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr5048173nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si1261969nfa.2006.08.19.02.10.56; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMoM-0003nn-JI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:08:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEMoM-0003ne-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:08:10 +0100 Received: from smtpout0145.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.145] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEMoJ-0007Vv-FH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:08:10 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.208.40) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44B73BCF0031AA91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:08:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c6c36e$f8e31b90$28d0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:07:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.946,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.492 Subject: LF: LF ACTY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6860 Hi All This morning worked PI4VPO/LT also hrd PA0SE and DL3NRV/P, acty all on CW. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211812005769907461 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4358842692077934c741a77a7f2b767d088c3fcd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs263065qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr1791591nfj; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si2344817nfc.2006.08.15.13.33.05; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5Wp-0004qb-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:28:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GD5Wp-0004qS-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:28:47 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GD5Wm-0002A0-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:28:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 30855 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 2006 20:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.189]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Aug 2006 20:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c6c0a8$ee60d540$bdbe3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:24:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.144,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: pa4vhf LF-tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C0B9.9647ABC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6882 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C0B9.9647ABC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First off all the power this afternoon turned out to be 250Watt output.=20 Maenwhile I completly rebuild the output coil and switch of the = transmitter, and now I'm able to=20 switch between 220W and 530 Watt output in six steps. Efficiency is around 80% at 60V supply voltage. I also did the ultimate test...running TX at full power without antenna! The very fast swr protection system did it's job. (lucky me...) If weather permits I'll be QRV again tomorrow afternoon after 13utc. Again around 136.30kHz. Probably with a lot of tuning etc. And if possible for 30 minutes or so = in beacon mode. Have to adjust swr circuit, so will work on that tomorrow as well. 73 Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6C0B9.9647ABC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First off all the power this afternoon = turned out=20 to be 250Watt output.
 
Maenwhile I completly rebuild the = output coil and=20 switch of the transmitter, and now I'm able to
switch between 220W and 530 Watt output = in six=20 steps.
Efficiency is around 80% at 60V supply=20 voltage.
 
I also did the ultimate test...running = TX at full=20 power without antenna!
The very fast swr protection system did = it's job.=20 (lucky me...)
 
If weather permits I'll be QRV again = tomorrow=20 afternoon after 13utc.
Again around 136.30kHz.
 
Probably with a lot of tuning etc. And = if possible=20 for 30 minutes or so in beacon mode.
Have to adjust swr circuit, so will = work on that=20 tomorrow as well.
 
73
 
Dick, PA4VHF
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B. Weazle McCreath" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:01:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at hurontel.on.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.610,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: LF: QRSS tx software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6916 LFers, I'm using QRSS version 3.17 on a 486 laptop running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and it's working just fine. I've also tried it on my older desktop running Win 98 with good results as well. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212253037230836076 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4979821431ff4018995b043607cec06b95013868 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs132161qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr6828830nfg; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si1492551nfc.2006.08.20.12.43.20; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEt87-0000SN-Ff for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:38:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEt86-0000SD-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:38:42 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEt82-0000mZ-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:38:42 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter04.comcast.net ([204.127.197.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060820193754m12001ai9ge>; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:37:54 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter04.comcast.net; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:37:53 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:37:53 +0000 Message-Id: <082020061937.14586.44E8BA110002B63D000038FA22007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.647 Subject: Re: LF: re: modifying xtals etc. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6918 Hi Niels, > is one employing an inductance in series with the crystal. (Such oscillators > sometimes are termed "VXOs"). As always, there is a price to pay: The > frequency stability is impaired. Yes, I tried a VXO circuit but it did not have sifficient stability for QRSS work. O.K. for hand keyed cw though. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212253037230836076 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 25a3719fbd9843406810c73585350ed82720b762 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs126385qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr6737327nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si13567nfa.2006.08.20.10.23.05; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEqxE-0007Oe-Nc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:19:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEqxE-0007OV-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:19:20 +0100 Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEqwz-0000uz-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:19:20 +0100 Received: from preinstapdq0tf (0x53588abb.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [83.88.138.187]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 339778A0042 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <004901c6c47c$b0e56410$bb8a5853@preinstapdq0tf> From: "Niels Rudberg J?rgensen" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:18:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: re: modifying xtals etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6919 Hello LF-group. About 50 years ago I ground and lapped FT243 crystals for use in lattice filters. I would not recommend any attempts to try doing similar kinds of things to modern crystls. It may, however, be of interest to note, that the marked crystal frequency, e.g. 3.579,545 kHz is the oscillating frequency in a positive reactance oscillator ("parallel-type"). Operating the crystal at its series frequency will give you a slightly lower frequency. And if the crystal is being operated in its negative reactance region (beneath its series resonance frequency, an even lower frequency of oscillation is possible (down by up to 0.5 percent). A practical negative reactance oscillator is one employing an inductance in series with the crystal. (Such oscillators sometimes are termed "VXOs"). As always, there is a price to pay: The frequency stability is impaired. 73 Niels / OZ8NJ+ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1210998272269203470 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2f1a1e8c687e2aecfeebe0913f62a50fa4c2e040 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs191942qbh; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr462685nfj; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si5141404nfc.2006.08.06.13.59.08; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pg2-00031W-3q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:56:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G9pg1-00031N-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:56:49 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9pfw-0000EB-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:56:48 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2006 21:55:38 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAODz1USKXg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:3036 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1G9per-00038E-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:55:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:56:47 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.736,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: WGT beacon no more Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6930 Hi All, After a big 'bang' at 2043hrs WGT beacon ceased to transmit having experienced PA mosfet failure. No heating of the heat-sink, it just failed. 73 Gary - G4WGT. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212230538371741419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: aab83ad0117704d7da8723e4089e823ee3e3d1c7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs112920qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr6363828nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si1034362nfb.2006.08.20.04.25.29; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GElNu-0004Dc-MR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:22:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GElNu-0004DT-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:22:30 +0100 Received: from smtpout0159.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.159] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GElNp-0004a8-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:22:29 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.204.155) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 44CA3138002056E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c6c44a$695092f0$9bccfc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <002401c6c3c4$0832ef80$74be3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:18:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.026,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C44A.50328530" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6941 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C44A.50328530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dick. My xtals are small sealed units, some are also enclosed in glass like = B7G tubes with the same base. These cannot be modified as you describe. The old larger types with a plate that can be removed are different. I was wondering how far they would pull with a capacitor in series etc. mal ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own = X-tal. (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Remove the metalcover and place the remains in an oscillator. Now it will oscillate on it's original frequency. Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little = stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. Wait a little until the xyleen/alcohol or other stuff that's in the = paint has gone..... By adding more of the ink on the cristal, it will go lower in = frequency. However there is a limit, and there will be a point where the X-tal = will not start anymore. When there is to much ink/paint on the X-tal, you can remove it with = alcohol or something. In this way I managed to tune a 4433,619kHz X-tal down to 4406,4kHz, = which, divided by 16 give 275,4, which drives my rig. 275,4 divided by 2 is 137,7kHz! I think for this X-tal this is about the limit, maybe 40kHz down, but = that's probably it. But it works! A really nice thrick to get those odd X-tal frequencies! Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C44A.50328530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dick.
 
My xtals are small sealed units, some = are also=20 enclosed in glass like B7G tubes with the same base. These cannot be = modified as=20 you describe.
The old larger types with a plate that = can be=20 removed are different.
I was wondering how far they would pull = with a=20 capacitor in series etc.
mal
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 = 7:16=20 PM
Subject: LF: TIP: modifiying = X-tals

For those who didn't know, use = following 'trick'=20 to tune your own X-tal.  (found it in a magazine from the=20 VERON)
 
Remove the metalcover and place the = remains in an=20 oscillator.
Now it will oscillate on it's = original=20 frequency.
 
Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, = or similar)=20 and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
You will notice that the frequency = goes down a=20 bit.
Wait a little until the = xyleen/alcohol or other=20 stuff that's in the paint has gone.....
By adding more of the ink on the = cristal, it will=20 go lower in frequency.
However there is a limit, and there = will be a=20 point where the X-tal will not start anymore.
 
When there is to much ink/paint on = the X-tal, you=20 can remove it with alcohol or something.
 
In this way I managed to tune a = 4433,619kHz X-tal=20 down to 4406,4kHz, which, divided by 16 give 275,4, which drives my=20 rig.
275,4 divided by 2 is = 137,7kHz!
 
I think for this X-tal this is about = the limit,=20 maybe 40kHz down, but that's probably it.
 
But it works!
 
A really nice thrick to get those odd = X-tal=20 frequencies!
 
Dick,=20 PA4VHF
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6C44A.50328530-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211696367548271095 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 78f39adffe702e1f739ca4dcb4b0c1911e0545d6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs202285qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr1149486nfl; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si8592992nfe.2006.08.14.06.55.04; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCcpN-0002Eq-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:50:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCcpN-0002Eh-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:50:01 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GCcpK-0005sS-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:50:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 983 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2006 13:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.22]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Aug 2006 13:49:51 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c6bfa8$0f19d540$17be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: References: <000001c6bfa2$dad44770$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:45:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.137,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re: RE: PA4VHF tests/problems? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6945 Well , the tuning is rahter sharp.... I think a possible source of trouble might be the antenna current meter itself. It is rather close to the loading coil. I'm using a metal (!) tube from an old surplus TX which is going through the core which is used for measuring the antenna current. Maybe I have problems with magnetic fields somewhere. I'll do some tests later. Now going outside working on the system. Keep an eye on 136.3kHz for my CW beacon or any tuning etc....maybe QRV in 10 minutes or so. 14-15utc Dick From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211086721341453846 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9257082b3b8f1dba03b13e7a9d0983d8197d0b08 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs217720qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr9041012nfi; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si6400179nfc.2006.08.07.13.25.00; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GABVk-00023l-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GABVk-00023c-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GABVh-000539-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2006 21:12:33 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAIc510SKZg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:2505 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GABRn-000IMn-8B; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:11:35 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "Alan Melia" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:13:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001101c6b9a2$a7fc2d00$0300a8c0@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.088,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: re PA FET Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6971 Hi Alan & LF, I have repaired the PA tonight & during the afternoon I had a look in the antenna coil box etc, what I found was obviously the cause of the failure. Possibly due to the hot weather the top of my loading coil container had sagged & during the recent rain (yesterday) the indent had filled with water causing a small pool. The other contributing factor was that I must have disturbed the feeder to the vertical at the top of the coil & it was almost touching the inside top of the plastic coil box so it had been arcing at that point to the pool of water & eventually caused the demise of the PA. The PA last night was running 38 volts at 11 Amps for about 400 watts, the SWR was virtually 1:1 & no indications of any problem were seen when periodically checked. I have now corrected the container problem with a plastic support inside pushing the top upward in a dome so no water will lodge & re-connected & re-dressed the feeder wire. I am going to run some tests & check the coil again whilst live. I have also sent a copy of this mail to LF to keep others informed. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com] Sent: 06 August 2006 22:53 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: re PA FET Hi Gary Yes sorry to hear about the FETs and with no heating of the heat sink. That suggest either a change in antenna tuning, a flash-over of an insulator, or maybe a instant of overlapped drive. I guess the FET got a high voltage....I wonder what you rating is an how big a margin you have, with the supply voltage you are running. As far as I can make out the min FET voltage is 4 times the supply voltage, but a mistune can easily exceed even that. Have a look round the outside for distressed components in daylight. I did a quick look at Geoclock and Singapore has quite a good darkness band I estimated 1930 to 2300z should be possible. Shanghi Is more difficult the window is only about 1 Hour at present 2130 to 2230z. It will get better of course from now on into the autumn. 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Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:38:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.049,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: TX output problem, still need helpl Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6988 Friends, The transmitter I have borrowed from Steve, works 24/7 and has an excellent output wave form through the scopematch on its way to the antenna. This amp uses a single layer solenoid transformer for its output. For all the current tests, the dummyload is being used instead. Scott lent me his prototype amp which is designed for a pair of 34NB20 FETs, and I have been trying to do what I thought would be a "simple" task... which is to build the final output circuit, consisting of the output transformer, feed choke and capacitor bypass. The problem is that whenever I switch to a rig with an output transformer with a TV Horizontal output core, the waveform goes bad. (Yes, into the dummy load!) I need to paint a word picture of the wave form because I find that whenever I try to send even small picture attachments of 30K into the reflector, the message is blocked. Start with a sine wave, flatten both the positive and negative waveform peaks. On each of these flats on the positive and negative half cycles, the leading and trailing edges each have a smaller peak with a valley in the flat between them. The peak on the leading edge is a little higher than the trailing edge with a slight dip between these peaks. The closest thing I can use to describe one half of the wave form is a two-hump camel back. The opposite half of the waveform is identical to the first with the leading peak slightly higher than the one which follows. The Low Pass Filter, Scopematch and all its connections are the unchanged between the use of the two different amps. The only variable which I know of is the output transformer, final choke and RF bypass capacitor. Since I suspected the output transformer I have taken it apart and rewound it with several windings, on two different cores, all suggested by different friends who are technically sound. There are NO insulator disks between the core halves, and at 56 Watts of input the core cannot be saturating. The latest winding matches the Jim Moritz, M0BMU alternative for the G0MRF amp on page 77 of LF Today. with taps on the output winding to set power output to lower values As I try different windings I find myself making mistakes and filling the burned FET can, so I am doing these experiments with the less expensive IRF640s, in Scotts prototype until I get things right. The current protective circuit does work, is set at its lowest setting and I am choosing the low taps and keep the TX current at about 4 amps at 14 Volts supply. Please think about what I could be doing wrong with this simple circuit. There may be something I have done wrong with the or to the amp, but I cannot imagine what it is. It is drawing current, and providing output. Both FETs have input pulses with the key down. I am at a loss having spent the last few days trying to get this working. When the output circuit is fixed, it will be used on a similar amp to the prototype, which I have acquired most of the parts for, and expect to have built in the next couple of weeks. It will have a pair of 34nb20s, and is intended to bring the power level up to 1 W ierp, the license limit. A few parts are still needed for an SWR protective circuit with diode OR similar to the protection in the G0MRF design. I realize that this problem has been discussed before, but no solution or even cause has been found. Please brainstorm. No idea will be considered foolish and even if wrong, may give someone a sideways inspiration to a structured method of locating and solving the real problem. Thanks, J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211700729295707196 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0e64b6b7d88135ac99f6c9268f1c3b8533b21154 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs205486qbh; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr1211113nfi; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si7534191nfe.2006.08.14.08.04.23; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCduZ-0002fj-Vt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:59:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCduZ-0002fa-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:59:27 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCduT-0005w9-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:59:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 93495 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2006 14:58:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.25.23 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2006 14:58:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c6bfb2$121cd080$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000c01c6bfaf$a801a560$4cbe3b3e@fujitsu> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:58:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.827 Subject: LF: Re: PA4VHF beaconing 136.30kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6989 Hi Dick, I am afraid as probably the nearest UK station to you I see nothing on my waterfall, even using slow dot mode, all I can see are the Rugby sidebands at 136.30kHz at 1457z Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 14 August 2006 15:39 Subject: LF: PA4VHF beaconing 136.30kHz right now with 50W until around 15.15utc From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211769003904337810 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 089889687ad4f6f6fc61dbecb1ba127b9fe64e4f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs235011qbh; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.94.20 with SMTP id w20mr1021102nfl; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si1420283nfb.2006.08.15.02.09.35; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GCura-0008Ga-1h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:05:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GCurZ-0008GR-8a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:05:29 +0100 Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.133]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GCurV-0002AC-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:05:29 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GCurK-000159-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c6c049$ebe46fc0$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <002201c6bfe2$c49a52c0$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:05:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: D2008 query Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7013 Hi Alan, I assume this is Ebay item 110018394886 or 110015625846. Both certainly have a frequency display in the photo - although the instruments look a bit beaten up. My D2006s are older than this and my K2155 is younger, so I don't know if this information is relevant http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/K2155.htm http://www.m0wye.radiouk.com/LF.HTM On the D2006 you have a coarse frequency control and a fine one. You have to move the coarse control to the next MHz step, you get a faint "clunk" from inside the instrument, and the "Lock" light illuminates. If the "Lock" light is not lit the frequency is undefined. So it might just be a case of moving the coarse frequency control until the loop locks. On the K2155 there is a switch to turn off the tracking generator and I think the frequency display blanks then. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: LF: D2008 query > Hi all, the following appeared on the VLF group, can anyone help, If you > dont > have access the the VLF (Yahoo Group) I can post a reply back. > > Post message: VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com > > Alan G3NYK > > ------------------------snip > Hi All, > > I recently purchased a Siemens D2008 Level Meter (Pegelmesser) on eB*y > with the idea of trying out some VLF experiments. However, despite the > unit showing full health in the photos, it has arrived and now only > displays the decimal point in the freq display. > > Before I start any (possibly ugly and protracted) negotiations with the > vendor, is there anyone on this group with some knowledge of this unit? > > Specifically: > > 1. Is there anything I need to do, apart from applying power, to get the > unit into an operational state? > > 2. Can anyone suggest what it means to have only the DP lit in the > frequency display? Is this a fault condition? > > 3. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the operator / service > manual? > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards, > David Smith > VK3HZ > ------end snip > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2af39aacf9dfdc2ef61f576d47f2cde82a35fb4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs258574qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr969910nfj; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si1049738nfc.2006.08.22.13.14.28; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFcWS-0001bI-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFcWS-0001b9-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: from web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.127]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFcWL-0002iy-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 19958 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2006 20:05:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qBR/W9ayfgIJ4i0MSzY8qRZVus3fI902t1rK2HWBzZoIjwZzzHdJ5HrKNU1Z5zCKzwyteoScim2zodl2MBoFSCDcm5u4FoigKjPm7ldWAuEyK1YVft7ow8whcbbGTeBXSs4ZP/ADS8cLnKc3VZDZR4fbVOn4qvFKJxKIvKMdOnE= ; Message-ID: <20060822200539.19956.qmail@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [86.132.250.159] by web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:05:39 BST Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:05:39 +0100 (BST) From: LECH LASZKIEWICZ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20060819231248.81fh9er3m1ogkswk@webmail3.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7040 --0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I etched my crystals with hydrofluoric (not hydrochloric) acid.This acid is extremely dangerous and deadly. It can only be stored in raw rubber bottles or bottles coated inside with bees wax (not synthetic). You are not likely to be able to buy it anywhere without a permit, fortunately. A little less deadly is phosphoric acid but it is much slower in action. You can grind crystals on a flat glass panel with a little of very fine carborundum powder mixed to a paste with paraffin. Rub gently pressing with one finger describing a letter 8. You can also gring the crystal plate edgewise. A little at a time does the trick but it is tedious work. Good luck de Lech G3KAU Rik Strobbe wrote: I even used sandpaper to make the quarz thinner and thus increase the frequency. That worked sometimes up to 10%. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting riese-k3djc@juno.com: > In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face > real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember > what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit > > drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply > pressure and move the frequency around > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: > For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. > (found it in a magazine from the VERON) > > Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little > stripe/line on the X-tal plate. > You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I etched my crystals with hydrofluoric (not hydrochloric) acid.This acid is extremely dangerous and deadly. It can only be stored in raw rubber bottles or bottles coated inside with bees wax (not synthetic). You are not likely to be able to buy it anywhere without a permit, fortunately. A little less deadly is phosphoric acid but it is much slower in action. You can grind crystals on a flat glass panel with a little of very fine carborundum powder mixed to a paste with paraffin. Rub gently pressing with one finger describing a letter 8. You can also gring  the crystal plate edgewise. A little at a time does the trick but it is tedious work.
Good luck  de Lech G3KAU

Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
I even used sandpaper to make the quarz thinner and thus increase the
frequency. That worked sometimes up to 10%.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting riese-k3djc@juno.com:

> In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face
> real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember
> what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit
>
> drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply
> pressure and move the frequency around
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes:
> For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal.
> (found it in a magazine from the VERON)
>
> Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little
> stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
> You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit.



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--0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b484da7c012d7d71dcfc5f17feb3f59b97884ff8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs156386qbh; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr7446543nfi; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si94750nfa.2006.08.21.01.18.14; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GF4sQ-00077z-0O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:11:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GF4sP-00077q-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:11:17 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GF4sL-0004hC-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:11:17 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1GF4sE-0006Ou-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:11:06 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c6c4f9$56fba130$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <000f01c6c490$4b9616e0$0301a8c0@p1800> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:10:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7041 Hi All, I have successfully used this method to retune 27MHz radio control crystals to produce a couple of channel frequencies around 433.500 MHz (when multiplied by 16). I used a pencil rubbed gently on the surface of the crystal. The crystal cans were of the "solder seal" type and all you had to do was heat the case of the crystal with the tip of a soldering iron, and the lid would come off. Unfortunately modern crystal cases are welded, and I have not been able to get in without destrying the crystal element. (Anyone know any tricks here ?) I found it quite educational, because it make you realise that a crystal frequency is determined by a mechanical resonance. Adding mass to the surface lowers the resonance. Nice to see it happen before your eyes. 73 Hugh M0WYE On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0a83d8c6217d78cef96511924fc6bf5e927868a8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs135516qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr6910759nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si439664nfc.2006.08.20.14.01.48; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEuMO-0001UE-2Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:57:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEuMN-0001U5-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:57:31 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEuM8-0003Vq-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:57:31 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-15.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.15] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1GEuM6-000LZE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <00dd01c6c49b$46139020$0fc428c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:21:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7042 Figure of 8 is quite right ,The trick was to cut a shallow shape in the face of a large cork to hold the crystal and to to cushion it . Also to finish with what used to be called "Jewellers Rouge". A fine 'powder' being called a 'flour' I believe. Bryan [ older than one might think ;-(( ] G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: 20 August 2006 10:52 Subject: RE: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals > Hi All, > > When I built my first xtal controlled Tx (2 Metres) I changed the > frequencies of xtals for the oscillator using very fine carborundum paste & > rubbed the quartz slice in a figure of 8 movement on a flat surface, this > was successful exept when putting too much pressure & breaking the tiny > slice. The quartz slice probably can't be removed from the encapsulations > today to use this method. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of riese-k3djc@juno.com > Sent: 19 August 2006 21:39 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals > > > In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face > real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember > what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit > > drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply > pressure and move the frequency around > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: > For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. > (found it in a magazine from the VERON) > > Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little > stripe/line on the X-tal plate. > You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 616588f1f8c230d8c1d12697d385c15ce6877b49 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs132136qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr6853641nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si4265nfe.2006.08.20.12.42.46; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEt71-0000RO-C6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:37:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEt70-0000RF-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:37:34 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEt6l-0002ns-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:37:34 +0100 Received: from p1800 (217.127.130.21) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as 943452288234280$telefonica.net) id 44C4D0A4002260E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:37:18 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c6c490$4b9616e0$0301a8c0@p1800> From: "Federico Olaizola" To: References: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:39:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.372,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C4A1.0D3C1D20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7043 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C4A1.0D3C1D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I work the FT-243 Xtals and similars with ammonical bifluoride acid = (FH-FNH4), much less aggressive that the fluorhydric acid (FH) I utilize two disolutions marked as 5khz/10_min and 1,5khz/30_min. This = is a reference, therefore each Xtal takes the velocity that desires him. At each one, must do attack velocity test. When you approach the = frequency desired, the bath should be of more short term and whit = measurement. To bathe the Xtal, I utilize pincers of revealed photographics, wing = that have carried out channels filed near the tip for take the Xtal so = that the flat faces remain free for the attack of the acid. My record of variation of a Xtal of 8 mhz is 403 khz obtaineds in 10 = days of baths. 8.377 to 8.780,8 =3D> 137,200 If we have passed ourselves in frequency, at Xtal "injured", applies him = itsel, "mercury-chrome" whit a human air. ( Edding pen?) If the bath, as been long-term, is possible that the Xtal to stop = oscilating. In this case, to smooth the surface, I utilize abrasive = paste of "corindon-corundum". Also is worth te dentifrice-paste. As = base of support, I utilize a piece of flat glass. The flask of the disolutions should be of special plastic for chemitry. = The fluorhydric acids (also the bifluoride), they attack the glass. A 20% of my Xtals they have died in the operation, well because in the = in the maneuvers of dismantling-assemblyng, they have broken itself or = because to stop oscillating and there is not form to resurrect them. Each time that there is a session of bath, one must wash the Xtal with = soap and running water and to dry it with absorbent paper. A lot of attention, therefore we are working with higly corrosive = material.=20 =20 Federico EA2HB ----- Original Message -----=20 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the = face real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont = remember what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply pressure and move the frequency around Bob K3DJC=20 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own = X-tal. (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little = stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C4A1.0D3C1D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I work the FT-243 Xtals and similars = with ammonical=20 bifluoride acid (FH-FNH4), much less aggressive that the fluorhydric = acid=20 (FH)
 
I utilize two disolutions marked as = 5khz/10_min and=20 1,5khz/30_min. This is a reference, therefore each Xtal takes the = velocity that=20 desires him.
 
At each one, must do attack velocity = test. =20 When you approach the frequency desired, the bath should be of more = short term=20 and whit  measurement.
To bathe the Xtal, I utilize pincers of = revealed=20 photographics, wing that have carried out channels filed near the tip = for take=20 the Xtal so that the flat faces remain free for the attack of the=20 acid.
 
My record of variation of a Xtal of 8 = mhz is 403=20 khz  obtaineds in 10 days of baths.
          &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 8.377  to  8.780,8  =3D>  137,200
 
If we have passed ourselves in = frequency, at=20 Xtal "injured", applies him itsel, "mercury-chrome" whit a human = air. =20 ( Edding pen?)
 
If the bath, as been long-term, is = possible that=20 the Xtal to stop oscilating.   In this case, to smooth the = surface, I=20 utilize abrasive paste of "corindon-corundum". Also is worth te=20 dentifrice-paste.  As base of = support, I=20 utilize a piece of flat glass.
 
The flask of the disolutions should be = of special=20 plastic for chemitry. The fluorhydric acids (also the bifluoride),  = they=20 attack the glass.
 
A 20% of my Xtals they have died in the = operation,=20 well because in the in the maneuvers of dismantling-assemblyng, they = have broken=20 itself or because to stop oscillating and there is not form to resurrect = them.
 
Each time that there is a session of = bath, one must=20 wash the Xtal with soap and running water and to dry it with absorbent=20 paper.
 
A lot of attention, therefore we are = working with=20 higly corrosive material. 
 
Federico   EA2HB
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 riese-k3djc@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 = 10:38=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TIP: = modifiying=20 X-tals

In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on = the=20 face
real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont=20 remember
what the acid was but the local chemical company would = sell a=20 bit
 
drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to = apply
pressure and move the frequency around
 
Bob K3DJC 
 
 
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" <knaap159@zonnet.nl> = writes:
For those who didn't know, use = following=20 'trick' to tune your own X-tal.  (found it in a magazine from = the=20 VERON)
 
Take an permant marker pen = ("Edding, or=20 similar) and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal = plate.
You will notice that the frequency = goes down a=20 bit.
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6C4A1.0D3C1D20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c6884f3e8a1405e956ee2de2612a32c71568597a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs115206qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6411305nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si1112797nfb.2006.08.20.05.23.20; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmFy-0004kW-79 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmFx-0004kN-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:21 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEmFt-0005Od-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 25999 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2006 11:42:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.69.42 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2006 11:42:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c6c44d$c6dc73a0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:41:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.704 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7044 The acid mentioned in a earlier posting was Hydrofluoric acid, a very dangerous acid, not because of its strength but of the way it attacks the skin. The use of this is not to be undertaken likely, despite the fact I believe it was used for cleaning stone buildings of grime. I guess that was before all the Heath and Safety legislation. With sealed crystal units the final trim is usually based on the weight of metal electrode evaporated in vacuum onto the quartz surface. Some change in frequency can be made bt thickening or reducing the electode....electrolytic plating of copper on was suggested at one time, though I have not tried it....the use of gold plating solutions is also highly dangerous !! It is probably cheaper in peace of mind if nothing else to shell out for a custom rock, because any of these processes with compromise the stability and aging rate of the unit. With old FT-243 and 10X holders I recollect that a proprietary brand of abrasive cleaner was found to be quite effective (Vim or Ajax in the UK ). All but the finest grades of carborundem (emery ..Aluminium oxide is better) can result in the blank quickly losing parallelism and ceasing to oscillate. For larger movements it is better to lap several blanks of the same start frequency simultaneously by "wringing" them down on a glass plate with hot candle wax and then lapping them against another piece of plate glass. It is possible to move them 500kHz without losing activity this way. Great fun, but quite frustrating sometimes as the desired rock would lose activity just as you got it near to the required frequency ! Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 63370d9f1def73dcef8cce52bdf4d5ab9b9b9beb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs110426qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr6269147nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si885901nfa.2006.08.20.03.00.22; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEk41-00031d-W0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:57:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEk41-00031U-0n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:57:53 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEk3w-0003ty-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:57:52 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2006 10:52:31 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAABXO50QXgmODOg6DFoE5AgIHBAoHBh2DcQ Received: from 88-106-106-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.106.73]:3039 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GEjyj-00029b-Jn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:52:25 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:52:23 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.721,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6C446.B7C7B070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7045 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6C446.B7C7B070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, When I built my first xtal controlled Tx (2 Metres) I changed the frequencies of xtals for the oscillator using very fine carborundum paste & rubbed the quartz slice in a figure of 8 movement on a flat surface, this was successful exept when putting too much pressure & breaking the tiny slice. The quartz slice probably can't be removed from the encapsulations today to use this method. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of riese-k3djc@juno.com Sent: 19 August 2006 21:39 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply pressure and move the frequency around Bob K3DJC On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6C446.B7C7B070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 All,
 
When I=20 built my first xtal controlled Tx (2 Metres) I changed the = frequencies of=20 xtals for the oscillator using very fine carborundum paste = &=20 rubbed the quartz slice in a figure of 8 movement on a flat = surface, this=20 was successful exept when putting too much pressure & breaking the = tiny=20 slice. The quartz slice probably can't be removed from the = encapsulations today=20 to use this method.
 
73
 
Gary -=20 G4WGT.
 
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From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of=20 riese-k3djc@juno.com
Sent: 19 August 2006 = 21:39
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Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying=20 X-tals

In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the=20 face
real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont=20 remember
what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a=20 bit
 
drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to = apply
pressure and move the frequency around
 
Bob K3DJC 
 
 
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" <knaap159@zonnet.nl> = writes:
For those who didn't know, use = following 'trick'=20 to tune your own X-tal.  (found it in a magazine from the=20 VERON)
 
Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, = or similar)=20 and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
You will notice that the frequency = goes down a=20 bit.
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C6C446.B7C7B070-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8d3e0adc378db8fcf95592231770b01999abf754 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs90827qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr5683394nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si17446nfa.2006.08.19.14.16.47; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEY7n-0003aP-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:12:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEY7n-0003aG-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:12:59 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEY7i-0007z0-Oj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:12:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B7A4CFF1 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01 (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704A24C7E7 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps01 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01 (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C152E68F6; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.3]) by smtps01 (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38592E68F5 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail1.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 271F11A980D; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 17.86-200-80.adsl.skynet.be (17.86-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.86.17]) by webmail3.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:48 +0200 Message-ID: <20060819231248.81fh9er3m1ogkswk@webmail3.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:12:48 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.200.86.17 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7046 I even used sandpaper to make the quarz thinner and thus increase the frequency. That worked sometimes up to 10%. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting riese-k3djc@juno.com: > In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face > real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember > what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit > > drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply > pressure and move the frequency around > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: > For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. > (found it in a magazine from the VERON) > > Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little > stripe/line on the X-tal plate. > You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d8f0e1a659637398c33df50f8f25f17fb585042c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs89997qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr5663217nfg; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si625892nfe.2006.08.19.13.51.50; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEXlF-0003Hb-6T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:49:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEXlE-0003HS-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:49:40 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEXl9-0007tH-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:49:40 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCQQ8HCAWRPPPJ for (sender ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewO3Yc+308+g7JwlXQkLMFxCD6ZUzqO16tg== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LX6R2NUX; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:46:54 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20060819.164627.3204.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-17,19-20,22,23-32767 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 6:3:109252230 X-MAIL-INFO:348d00cd5c95057cdc55e57901f14848c8d868fc71b5 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.856,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_4c6b.5e2a.497d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7047 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_4c6b.5e2a.497d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply pressure and move the frequency around Bob K3DJC On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. ----__JNP_000_4c6b.5e2a.497d Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the=20 face
real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont=20 remember
what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a=20 bit
 
drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply
pressure and move the frequency around
 
Bob K3DJC 
 
 
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" <knaap159@zonnet.nl> writes:
For those who didn't know, use following= 'trick'=20 to tune your own X-tal.  (found it in a magazine from the=20 VERON)
 
Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or = similar)=20 and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
You will notice that the frequency goes = down a=20 bit.
----__JNP_000_4c6b.5e2a.497d-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e701ea9f0667a61c8ea1bb9366e8b9d664c13424 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs86421qbh; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr5596390nfi; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si504495nfe.2006.08.19.12.23.52; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWMr-0001NX-VH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:20:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEWMr-0001NN-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:20:25 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEWMo-0004V7-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:20:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 23176 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2006 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fujitsu) ([62.59.190.174]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 19 Aug 2006 19:20:14 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c6c3c4$0832ef80$74be3b3e@fujitsu> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.161,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C3D4.B368A2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7048 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C3D4.B368A2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. = (found it in a magazine from the VERON) Remove the metalcover and place the remains in an oscillator. Now it will oscillate on it's original frequency. Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little = stripe/line on the X-tal plate. You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. Wait a little until the xyleen/alcohol or other stuff that's in the = paint has gone..... By adding more of the ink on the cristal, it will go lower in frequency. However there is a limit, and there will be a point where the X-tal will = not start anymore. When there is to much ink/paint on the X-tal, you can remove it with = alcohol or something. In this way I managed to tune a 4433,619kHz X-tal down to 4406,4kHz, = which, divided by 16 give 275,4, which drives my rig. 275,4 divided by 2 is 137,7kHz! I think for this X-tal this is about the limit, maybe 40kHz down, but = that's probably it. But it works! A really nice thrick to get those odd X-tal frequencies! Dick, PA4VHF ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C6C3D4.B368A2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those who didn't know, use = following 'trick' to=20 tune your own X-tal.  (found it in a magazine from the = VERON)
 
Remove the metalcover and place the = remains in an=20 oscillator.
Now it will oscillate on it's original=20 frequency.
 
Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or = similar)=20 and put a little stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
You will notice that the frequency goes = down a=20 bit.
Wait a little until the xyleen/alcohol = or other=20 stuff that's in the paint has gone.....
By adding more of the ink on the = cristal, it will=20 go lower in frequency.
However there is a limit, and there = will be a point=20 where the X-tal will not start anymore.
 
When there is to much ink/paint on the = X-tal, you=20 can remove it with alcohol or something.
 
In this way I managed to tune a = 4433,619kHz X-tal=20 down to 4406,4kHz, which, divided by 16 give 275,4, which drives my=20 rig.
275,4 divided by 2 is = 137,7kHz!
 
I think for this X-tal this is about = the limit,=20 maybe 40kHz down, but that's probably it.
 
But it works!
 
A really nice thrick to get those odd = X-tal=20 frequencies!
 
Dick, PA4VHF
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19./08/2006   0836z
 
GM all!
 Very good sign from PI4VPO/LT this = morning on=20 136540 from JN09tt.
 Here is how to use a = headlight of=20 day!
 
VY = 73
Jeff=20 F6CWN
 
 
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multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C0B4.9A374EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7060 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C0B4.9A374EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Laurence, LF Group, There also appears to be someone on about 136.3211kHz - not audible here = under a lot of QRN, but visible here in the gaps in my transmission. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C0B4.9A374EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Laurence, LF Group,
 
There also appears to be someone on about = 136.3211kHz -=20 not audible here under a lot of QRN, but visible here in the gaps in my=20 transmission.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6C0B4.9A374EC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212251735270902342 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 010fe21bef95f941ebca5813e95c067aa56e4e54 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs125496qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr6723366nfi; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si1312181nfe.2006.08.20.10.02.24; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEqcd-0007CL-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEqcd-0007CC-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:03 +0100 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEqcY-0007mn-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:02 +0100 Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GEqcW-0002MQ-Bl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:57:56 +0100 Received: from [82.44.33.49] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GEqcS-0002ya-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:57:52 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.11.3/423]); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:32 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c6c479$de681d90$6401a8c0@derekm3uttnxf9> From: "DEREK ATTER" To: References: <001801c6c2df$b92f7af0$42e4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: decca socket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7079 Mal, I am pretty sure from looking at the illustration in my RS catalogue that the Decca 5501 module socket is the same as RS socket part number 447-112. I will however have a look if there is one still lurking around in the cupboard in the Crawley Clubhouse during meeting next Wednesday. 73, Derek Atter G3GRO ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: LF: decca socket > Hi All > Does anyone know where I can get a 24 pin decca 5501 module socket. I need > one for outboard experiments with a module. Other 24 pin sockets/plugs > used > with ancillary decca equipment although looking the same have different > contact spacing. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212405620056757800 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c8287c839bd3a0ee796fab6d826b726ed79a59da Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs235515qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr415157nfj; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si516724nfc.2006.08.22.06.39.55; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFWOc-0005WK-Cc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFWOb-0005WB-ML for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:21 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFWOX-0000jT-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:21 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id l.4d5.5aaba0b (43931) for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: <4d5.5aaba0b.321c61cd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:34:05 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.535,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1156253645" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7090 -------------------------------1156253645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dick, If as you say, this experiment could disrupt worldwide HF communications and broadcasting for perhaps a week by what right should they be allowed to do the work? The results would impinge on nations not involved in their satellite sytems and could potentially cause severe damage to commerce together with potential disruption to a great many activities which rely on HF communications. Without the prior agreement of ALL nations who use HF spectrum surely this could be construed as an act of aggression by the perpetrators on all non-participants! I am not knowledgable enough on the subject but I would also feel strongly that there must be the fullest possible discussion internationally before anyone starts mucking about with the earths radiation belts regardless of what they say happens from time to time naturally. There are far too many "experts" out there mucking about with this planet' eco systems already! Don't forget, some of the governments involved have been more than happy in the past to hide from us the fact that smoking is dangerous to health while sucking up all the tax revenues they can lay their hands on! By the way, if they do this by generating some kind of massive EM pulse at LF wii we be able to claim compensation for any damage caused to our equipment? A plague on all their houses I say ! 73 de pat g4gvw es gd dx -------------------------------1156253645 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dick,
 
If as you say, this experiment could disrupt worldwide HF communication= s=20 and broadcasting for perhaps a week by what right should they be allowed to=20= do=20 the work?
 
The results would impinge on nations not involved in their satellite sy= tems=20 and could potentially cause severe damage to commerce together with potentia= l=20 disruption to a great many activities which rely on HF communications.
 
Without the prior agreement of ALL nations who use HF spectrum surely t= his=20 could be construed as an act of aggression by the perpetrators on all=20 non-participants!
 
I am not knowledgable enough on the subject but I would also feel stron= gly=20 that there must be the fullest possible discussion internationally before an= yone=20 starts mucking about with the earths radiation belts regardless of what they= say=20 happens from time to time naturally. There are far too many "experts" out th= ere=20 mucking about with this planet' eco systems already!
 
Don't forget, some of the governments involved have been more than happ= y in=20 the past to hide from us the fact that smoking is dangerous to health while=20 sucking up all the tax revenues they can lay their hands on!
 
By the way, if they do this by generating some kind of massive EM pulse= at=20 LF wii we be able to claim compensation for any damage caused to our=20 equipment?
 
A plague on all their houses I say !
 
73 de pat g4gvw es gd dx  
-------------------------------1156253645-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1212405620056757800 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0e9571aeb6531d5b897384a977c9a0853d59df5c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs224695qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr168840nfi; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si168732nfc.2006.08.22.02.48.18; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFSks-0003Mk-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:41:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFSkq-0003Mb-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:41:04 +0100 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFSkj-0007vR-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:41:03 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556FEB.cable.casema.nl [83.85.111.235]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF05752 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20060822114640.03691bb0@pop3.casema.nl> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@pop3.casema.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:49:46 +0200 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0634-0, 21-08-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.187,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Alarming message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3929415==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7091 --=====================_3929415==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To All from PA0SE A friend of mine drew my attention to the following rather alarming message: >>Van: ARRL Web site [mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org] >>Verzonden: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 15:31 >>Aan: pa3alg@xs4all.nl >>CC: Subscribed ARRL Members: >>Onderwerp: ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA >> >>SB PROP ARL ARLP033 >>ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA >> >>This is a special early edition of the propagation bulletin, three >>days before the regular Friday publication schedule. The regular >>bulletin will appear on Friday, August 18. >> >>A newspaper article on Monday out of New Zealand reported a proposed >>Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project that could >>cause major worldwide disruptions to HF radio communication and GPS >>navigation. The ''Radiation Belt Remediation'' (RBR) system is >>envisaged as a method for protecting low earth orbit (LEO) >>satellites from damage caused by high altitude nuclear detonations >>or severe solar storms. Testing the system would use extremely high >>intensity very low frequency (VLF) radio waves to flush particles >>from radiation belts and dump them into the upper atmosphere. >> >>When I first heard of this on Monday morning, I thought it must be >>something from a fringe web site peddling dark conspiracy theories. >>But the newspaper reporting the news is real, and so is the team of >>scientists from New Zealand, the UK and Finland whose study of >>possible effects of the scheme is reported in a recent edition of >>Annales Geophysicae. >> >>You can find the article here: >> >>http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf >> >>A web page from the University of Otago describing the research is >>here: >> >>http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/RBR_Media_release_8Aug06.htm >> >>I contacted the lead researcher on the team reporting the possible >>effects of the project, Dr. Craig Rodger of the Physics Department >>at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand. He proved very >>cooperative, accessible and helpful, and told me RBR is a serious >>project, ''money is starting to appear to investigate it in more >>detail'', and ''U.S. scientists with military connections are treating >>it seriously''. >> >>It is feared that testing the system could shut down worldwide HF >>communications for several days to a week, rendering the ionosphere >>a giant sponge for RF. >> >>I sent Dr. Rodger a comment from Ward Silver, N0AX, who speculated >>''the sheer energy needed to accomplish it would tend to rule it out >>from the start, and I don't know where they would erect the >>necessary antennas.'' >> >>Dr. Rodger responded, ''This would be true, but they are hoping to >>rely on some of the non-linear processes in space plasmas, stealing >>the energy from the radiation belts to get the wave-amplitudes high >>enough. We know this is possible (in theory), as it happens >>naturally already. We don't know how easy it will be to get it >>happening under our control''. >> >>''Also, as for erecting the antenna, there are two plans. One is to >>fly VLF antenna in space. This could be a power problem. But for >>ground-based systems, you probably already know that most major >>naval powers have big VLF transmitters dotted over the globe. (Two >>of the US Navy transmitters radiate one megawatt). While these are >>designed to keep the signals mostly under the ionosphere, it shows >>the possibility for building big powerful antenna''. >> >>You can read Monday's article from the New Zealand Herald, here: >> >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1ObjectID=10396164 >> >>If you would like to make a comment or have a tip for our readers, >>email the author at, k7ra@arrl.net. >> >> >> > --=====================_3929415==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" To All from PA0SE

A friend of mine drew my attention to the following rather alarming message:

Van: ARRL Web site [mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org]
Verzonden: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 15:31
Aan: pa3alg@xs4all.nl
CC: Subscribed ARRL Members:
Onderwerp: ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA

SB PROP ARL ARLP033
ARLP033 Propagation de K7RA

This is a special early edition of the propagation bulletin, three
days before the regular Friday publication schedule.  The regular
bulletin will appear on Friday, August 18.

A newspaper article on Monday out of New Zealand reported a proposed
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project that could
cause major worldwide disruptions to HF radio communication and GPS
navigation.  The ''Radiation Belt Remediation'' (RBR) system is
envisaged as a method for protecting low earth orbit (LEO)
satellites from damage caused by high altitude nuclear detonations
or severe solar storms.  Testing the system would use extremely high
intensity very low frequency (VLF) radio waves to flush particles
from radiation belts and dump them into the upper atmosphere.

When I first heard of this on Monday morning, I thought it must be
something from a fringe web site peddling dark conspiracy theories.
But the newspaper reporting the news is real, and so is the team of
scientists from New Zealand, the UK and Finland whose study of
possible effects of the scheme is reported in a recent edition of
Annales Geophysicae.

You can find the article here:

http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/ag-24-2025.pdf

A web page from the University of Otago describing the research is
here:

http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/research/space/RBR_Media_release_8Aug06.htm

I contacted the lead researcher on the team reporting the possible
effects of the project, Dr. Craig Rodger of the Physics Department
at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand.  He proved very
cooperative, accessible and helpful, and told me RBR is a serious
project, ''money is starting to appear to investigate it in more
detail'', and ''U.S. scientists with military connections are treating
it seriously''.

It is feared that testing the system could shut down worldwide HF
communications for several days to a week, rendering the ionosphere
a giant sponge for RF.

I sent Dr. Rodger a comment from Ward Silver, N0AX, who speculated
''the sheer energy needed to accomplish it would tend to rule it out
from the start, and I don't know where they would erect the
necessary antennas.''

Dr. Rodger responded, ''This would be true, but they are hoping to
rely on some of the non-linear processes in space plasmas, stealing
the energy from the radiation belts to get the wave-amplitudes high
enough.  We know this is possible (in theory), as it happens
naturally already.  We don't know how easy it will be to get it
happening under our control''.

''Also, as for erecting the antenna, there are two plans.  One is to
fly VLF antenna in space.  This could be a power problem.  But for
ground-based systems, you probably already know that most major
naval powers have big VLF transmitters dotted over the globe.  (Two
of the US Navy transmitters radiate one megawatt).  While these are
designed to keep the signals mostly under the ionosphere, it shows
the possibility for building big powerful antenna''.

You can read Monday's article from the New Zealand Herald, here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1ObjectID=10396164

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--=====================_3929415==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211239110155448687 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0108b34cea0f02c7c1f52ebb8af28fb27df44321 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs54996qbh; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr1782579nfl; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si2674235nfa.2006.08.09.09.57.08; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GArIY-0006r9-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:52:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GArIX-0006r0-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:52:49 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GArIT-0005cz-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:52:49 +0100 Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.05.01.01 201-2174-106-103-20060222) with ESMTP id <20060809165243.LSGU24249.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:52:43 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id D728UE1UV1 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44DA12DA.4000109@telus.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:52:42 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.842,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: 134.1Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7097 Laurence 54KHz MFSK is likely NPG as it is on, the 135.93 freq is presently inactive. I make the lower freq of it here at ~55.46KHz +50Hz for the upper component. CKN continues to idle on 133.1KHz and 76.2KHz. I guess I should finish my mini-whip! 73 Scott Laurence KL1X wrote: > Gary thanks - this pulsing is Im pretty sure a data sig - It resides > on 134.1 Khz and has a fade pattern, but so do local sources so Im > still not sure. Ill check during the heat of the day - > > Ive lashed up the mini whip and the concierge here at the hotel > managed to find me a short length of 30mm diam white pipe - ok I dont > have the end caps but tape covers the open end and the bottom is open > to the air here. Its being hosted on one of those 20 bucks 8m long > fishing poles. > > First impressions are - good, real good. No Imod (but there arent any > big MW stations here) and a lot better than my bottom loaded wire - > getting the cap up high really has improved the s/n - I again > decoupled the incoming thin coax to the frame and that knocked off the > crud. I guess I have the device about ten feet above the roof. > > The only difference to the original design is a slightly longer (cap) > aerial, added another few cms there, and the inter-stage coupling > increased to 680pF from 560pF, only because thats what they have and > not to improve the LF side > > I can hear JJY on 40, weakly at the moment, and 60Khz, Loran is S9+, > mfsk on 54Khz (s9) background night-time sits at around S5 with > tstorm peaks to 9+10 - this is with the R75 with no pre amps on - a > lot of drive, but not overly so - but it looks good, and Ill drag this > round as my aerial of choice in the future - Ok ill have to add them > end caps to keep the water out, but that can wait for a day. > > Build time was 1.5 hours from the first attempt at cutting the single > sided board with a hacksaw! > > My thanks to PA0RDT - Ill monitor DCF39 overnight and the EU 136Khz > window but I think we are still a little disturbed (radio wise) > > Laurence G4DMA in 9V1 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:55:20 +0100 > Subject: LF: RE: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) > > Hi Laurence, > > I have looked at my freq lists & there are 2 Datatrak frequencies > shown nearby at 133.20KHz in UK & 133.24KHz in Argentina, having > listened to the UK one it seems to have a sort of pulsing warble. > > Pleased you managed to get the mini-whip parts, I think it is so > good I am mainly using it instead og the G3LNP loop beacauce its > not as restricted on frequency coverage & so small. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Laurence > KL1X > *Sent:* 09 August 2006 03:42 > *To:* lowfer@lwca.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) > > Its Singapore's national day (41 years on 9th Aug) and we have had > natural fireworks here as well as man made, so I took the > lightning aiming point off the top of the hotel roof until the bad > weather passes. The vertical is some 20ft above the highest > lightning rod and I cant afford the law suit. As well as that LF > is poorer than off late and Ive lost some of my longer range ndb > markers - > > Scott - I have a birdie on 133.1 Khz or so, warbles away most of > the time but I dont think its that Canadian - suspect some > controller somewhere here. > > Managed to get all the bits for the PAORDT Mini-whip > here including the 2N5106's, but again I had to go to all the > components shops at the Mecca for all radio hams the Sim Lim > area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing (1.5 sing to 1 usd) > > 73 > Laurence OJ11 > (we get a day off work) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos > and more. It's free! It's free! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and > more. It's free! It's free! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1211239110155448687 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 16c881b3ff5e123092dbbd198b049760c20b7f95 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs48442qbh; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 05:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr1192479nfi; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si2298894nfb.2006.08.09.05.46.56; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: error (gmail.com: error in processing during lookup of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org: DNS timeout) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GAnN6-0005Vp-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:41:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GAnN5-0005Vg-DG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:41:15 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.94]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAnN0-0003IZ-Fq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:41:15 +0100 Received: from BAY124-W2 ([207.46.11.165]) by bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 05:41:03 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [203.208.238.191] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "Gary - G4WGT" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 04:41:03 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2006 12:41:03.0693 (UTC) FILETIME=[1378D7D0:01C6BBB1] X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.152,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d0e6f99-9535-485a-b92c-5c5a621b4311_" Subject: LF: 134.1Khz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7098 --_2d0e6f99-9535-485a-b92c-5c5a621b4311_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary thanks - this pulsing is Im pretty sure a data sig - It resides on 134= .1 Khz and has a fade pattern, but so do local sources so Im still not sure= . Ill check during the heat of the day -=20 =20 Ive lashed up the mini whip and the concierge here at the hotel managed to= find me a short length of 30mm diam white pipe - ok I dont have the end ca= ps but tape covers the open end and the bottom is open to the air here. Its= being hosted on one of those 20 bucks 8m long fishing poles. =20 First impressions are - good, real good. No Imod (but there arent any big = MW stations here) and a lot better than my bottom loaded wire - getting the= cap up high really has improved the s/n - I again decoupled the incoming t= hin coax to the frame and that knocked off the crud. I guess I have the dev= ice about ten feet above the roof. =20 The only difference to the original design is a slightly longer (cap) aeri= al, added another few cms there, and the inter-stage coupling increased to= 680pF from 560pF, only because thats what they have and not to improve the= LF side =20 I can hear JJY on 40, weakly at the moment, and 60Khz, Loran is S9+, mfsk = on 54Khz (s9) background night-time sits at around S5 with tstorm peaks to= 9+10 - this is with the R75 with no pre amps on - a lot of drive, but not = overly so - but it looks good, and Ill drag this round as my aerial of choi= ce in the future - Ok ill have to add them end caps to keep the water out= , but that can wait for a day. =20 Build time was 1.5 hours from the first attempt at cutting the single sided= board with a hacksaw!My thanks to PA0RDT - Ill monitor DCF39 overnight an= d the EU 136Khz window but I think we are still a little disturbed (radio w= ise) =20 Laurence G4DMA in 9V1 From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.ukTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Wed, 9 Aug 2= 006 09:55:20 +0100Subject: LF: RE: Tstorms in Singapore (no surprise there) Hi Laurence, =20 I have looked at my freq lists & there are 2 Datatrak frequencies shown nea= rby at 133.20KHz in UK & 133.24KHz in Argentina, having listened to the UK = one it seems to have a sort of pulsing warble. =20 Pleased you managed to get the mini-whip parts, I think it is so good I am = mainly using it instead og the G3LNP loop beacauce its not as restricted on= frequency coverage & so small. =20 73 =20 Gary - G4WGT =20 =20 -----Original Message-----From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1XSent: 09 Augus= t 2006 03:42To: lowfer@lwca.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgSubject: LF: T= storms in Singapore (no surprise there)Its Singapore's national day (41 yea= rs on 9th Aug) and we have had natural fireworks here as well as man made, = so I took the lightning aiming point off the top of the hotel roof until th= e bad weather passes. The vertical is some 20ft above the highest lightning= rod and I cant afford the law suit. As well as that LF is poorer than off= late and Ive lost some of my longer range ndb markers - Scott - I have a b= irdie on 133.1 Khz or so, warbles away most of the time but I dont think i= ts that Canadian - suspect some controller somewhere here. Managed to get= all the bits for the PAORDT Mini-whip here including the 2N5106's, but ag= ain I had to go to all the components shops at the Mecca for all radio hams= the Sim Lim area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing (1.5 sing to = 1 usd) 73Laurence OJ11(we get a day off work) With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more.= It's free! It's free!=20 _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you car= e about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted= --_2d0e6f99-9535-485a-b92c-5c5a621b4311_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Gary thanks - this pulsing is Im pretty sure a data sig - It resides = on 134.1 Khz and has a fade pattern, but so do local sources so Im still no= t sure. Ill check during the heat of the day -
 
Ive lashed  up the mini whip and the concierge here at the hotel = managed to find me a short length of 30mm diam white pipe - ok I dont have = the end caps but tape covers the open end and the bottom is open to the air= here. Its being hosted on one of those 20 bucks 8m long fishing poles.
 
First impressions are - good, real good. No Imod  (but there arent any= big MW stations here) and a lot better than my bottom loaded wire - g= etting the cap up high really has improved the s/n - I again decoupled the = incoming thin coax to the frame and that knocked off the crud. I guess I ha= ve the device about ten feet above the roof.
 
The only difference to the  original design is a slightly longer = (cap) aerial, added another few cms there,  and the inter= -stage coupling increased to 680pF from 560pF, only because thats wha= t they have and not to improve the LF side
 
I can hear JJY on 40, weakly at the moment, and  60Khz, Loran is S9+, = mfsk on 54Khz (s9)  background night-time sits at around S5 with= tstorm peaks to 9+10 - this is with the R75 with no pre a= mps on - a lot of drive, but not overly so - but it loo= ks good, and Ill drag this round as my aerial of choice in the future - &nb= sp; Ok ill have to add them end caps to keep the water out, but that c= an wait for a day.
 
Build time was 1.5 hours from the first attempt at cutting the single sided= board with a hacksaw!

My thanks to PA0RDT -  Ill monitor DCF39= overnight and the EU 136Khz window but I think we are still a little distu= rbed (radio wise)
 
Laurence G4DMA in 9V1




From: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wed,= 9 Aug 2006 09:55:20 +0100
Subject: LF: RE: Tstorms in Singapore (no sur= prise there)

Hi Laurence,
 
I have looked at my freq lists & there are 2 Datatrak frequencies show= n nearby at 133.20KHz in UK & 133.24KHz in Argentina, having listened t= o the UK one it seems to have a sort of pulsing warble.<= /DIV>
 
Pleased you managed to get the mini-whip parts, I think it is so good I am= mainly using it instead og the G3LNP loop beacauce its not as restricted o= n frequency coverage & so small.
 
73
 
Gary - G4WGT
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laur= ence KL1X
Sent: 09 August 2006 03:42
To: lowfer@lwca.or= g; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Tstorms in Singapore= (no surprise there)

Its Singapore's national day (41 y= ears on 9th Aug) and we have had natural fireworks here as well as man made= , so I took the lightning aiming point off the top of the hotel roof until = the bad weather passes. The vertical is some 20ft above the highest lightni= ng rod and I cant afford the law suit.  As well as that LF is poorer t= han off late and Ive lost some of my longer range ndb markers -
 Scott - I have a birdie on 133.1 Khz  or so, warbles away most of th= e time but I dont think its that Canadian - suspect some controller so= mewhere here.  
 
Managed to get all the bits for the = PAORDT  Mini-whip here including the 2N5106's, but again I had to= go to all the components shops at the Mecca for all radio hams the Sim Lim= area .. 4 sing dollars each. J310 50 cents sing  (1.5 sing to 1 = usd)
 
73
Laurence OJ11
(we get a day off work)


With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more.= It's free! It's fre= e!


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