From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203560989467788777 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d668a34c92368a2fc2c058e19d8ea22420bd7919 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs48316wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.3 with SMTP id h3mr61625nfi; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si1196733nfb.2006.05.16.11.46.42; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg4WK-0002SN-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:43:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg4WK-0002SE-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:43:48 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg62x-0008Oc-EA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 21:21:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 46372 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 18:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.71.50 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 18:43:37 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c67918$a4b466a0$32478351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003e01c678db$dc5cad70$0200a8c0@AUG2004> <002201c678f5$4d8dd820$55668351@lark> <004601c67910$928e3a30$0200a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:43:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.013 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Rb standard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5216 Hi Walter, it not finished yet, 2hrs to go #9724588809. I dont know what the starting price was but its up to �90 now, which is too much for a duff lamp !! On HFC I dunno, I am inclined to say I would prefer not to talk every year......I am maybe getting temperamental.....trying to avoid over-exposure !! Certainly not on propagation. If the LF side gets a bit thin I am quite willing to come on as "1st Reserve" but I guess you could do with a different face this year. I could rustle up a "getting started" talk if necesary ....though as one who has only transmit once (with 2W) that might be a little rich !! We do really need to get some more activity on the band again or it will atrophy away. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Blanchard To: Sent: 16 May 2006 18:41 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Rb standard > What did it go for, Alan? > BTW, are you on for a talk at HFC again this year? > > Walter. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203542991779374986 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 029d7254f4670957e956fee528245da77a92004c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs36289wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.15 with SMTP id z15mr4506729nfk; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si940358nfa.2006.05.16.07.00.38; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg02p-0001Tj-CL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:57:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg02p-0001Ta-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:57:03 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg1zK-00059L-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:01:53 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter20.comcast.net ([204.127.197.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060516135631m11009h5tge>; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:56:36 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter20.comcast.net; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:56:30 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:56:30 +0000 Message-Id: <051620061356.18460.4469DA0E000B74980000481C22069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.732 Subject: LF: High Performance Software Defined Radio X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5217 Hello the list, My friend and receiver Guru Frank WA1GFZ just sent along a link to a group that is working on a high perormance software defined radio: http://hpsdr.org/index.html Seems to have a number of features that would be of interest to the LF community, including GPS locked reference oscillator, DSP filtering etc. Perhaps with a little input from the LF community we could insure that our interests are covered as this project is still very much in the developmental phase. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203621793746620173 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 16d3e0828170b231b677729047870464c4e1bd5c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs73791wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 03:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.5 with SMTP id j5mr620683nfe; Wed, 17 May 2006 03:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si945005nfb.2006.05.17.03.53.10; 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type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6797C.B440F7A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5218 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C6797C.B440F7A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0009_01C6797C.B440F7A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C6797C.B440F7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not much copy yesterday but much better today...solid throughout the = hour! 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:42:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c6839a$0e1b24e0$11c428c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> <001b01c6835c$99d152e0$0300a8c0@lark> <000901c68364$7903d3a0$b8c428c3@captbrian> <005601c68368$38cc7a40$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 04:35:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5221 Alan, You dun gud agn. TU I am never sure whether cw abb. TU means Thank You or To You. Now then: is there a method of applying the message rules retrospectively? There are 1800 odd messages in my inbox and I would now like to run the inbox through the (later written) message rules so as to make it as if the messages had already been written when the messages arrived. Bryan (was away all winter) Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > Hi Brian > Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I could > be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find > facility. > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: captbrian > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked > too. > > Thank you : > > > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message > with > > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; > > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > > > Bryan G3GVB > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204071620308134405 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a4a66cb3c53d028dbe880bcdfd1cf6e0fe7ef8d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs124580wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.61.19 with SMTP id o19mr3621111nfk; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si4789295nfc.2006.05.22.03.02.57; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi7DP-0006rV-Km for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:00:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi7DP-0006rM-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:00:43 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi8mn-0007Ds-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 12:41:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 94913 invoked from network); 22 May 2006 09:59:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.40 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2006 09:59:33 -0000 Message-ID: <009501c67d86$6d165e70$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <000e01c67d85$e1db3600$0301010a@mikes> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:59:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.268 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5229 >From G3PLX: What's the betting that if you try to demodulate it, it will switch back to random data just as you get things set up? 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204071401546642871 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5d2faa3a4fb9da48f3c63cecf78155a37aa74868 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs124506wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.4 with SMTP id o4mr3621077nfh; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si5108405nfb.2006.05.22.02.59.30; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi78i-0006l5-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:55:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi78i-0006kw-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:55:52 +0100 Received: from fep04.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi78e-0004tg-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:55:52 +0100 Received: from mikes ([222.154.78.14]) by fep04.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060522095539.MQAF19789.fep04.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 21:55:39 +1200 Message-ID: <000e01c67d85$e1db3600$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:55:39 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5230 Thanks Peter. Yes, that is what it looks like, The outer pair are the weakest by 10dB or a bit more. I guess I should try to demodulate it. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203576632899762665 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 723184ce6f863474f3a52b2ae1222057e3e7c9e0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs56923wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr228886nfh; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si367146nfa.2006.05.16.15.55.21; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg8PA-00030v-Pz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:52:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg8PA-00030m-AD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:52:40 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgALs-0002Ub-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:57:39 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.3.178.112) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 446A56680000012A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 00:52:24 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c6793b$59916510$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 00:52:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: MSF off the air Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6794C.1CA55330" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5240 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6794C.1CA55330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all: Does anybody know why MSF is off the air? 73, Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6794C.1CA55330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all:
 
Does anybody know why MSF is off the=20 air?
 
 
73, Jos=E9, = EA1PX
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C6794C.1CA55330-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204722153113667878 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bd0ced639d96ecfa5884ac9a8e26a51c65db199c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs75618wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 07:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.29.13 with SMTP id c13mr381132huc; Mon, 29 May 2006 07:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 30si903508hue.2006.05.29.07.22.50; Mon, 29 May 2006 07:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkiUA-0003om-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 15:12:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkiU9-0003od-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 15:12:45 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FkiU5-0000rr-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 15:12:45 +0100 Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.141.245]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 May 2006 15:12:29 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAHqeekSJUSw Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.141.245]:2324 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FkiPN-000IEw-UW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 15:07:50 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:13:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.625,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Just testing. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5244 I have not had any e-mails at all today from any source, so just checking. No response required. Gary. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204068269064500991 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d68bbcba4b25824b326ae6d8b5e7867d5a58956b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs123613wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.87.3 with SMTP id p3mr3576620nfl; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si4700208nfa.2006.05.22.02.15.39; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6Ss-0006OA-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:12:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6Ss-0006O0-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:12:38 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi82F-0006lU-Au for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:53:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 55765 invoked from network); 22 May 2006 09:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.40 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2006 09:12:28 -0000 Message-ID: <005d01c67d7f$d96150f0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:12:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.279 Subject: LF: Re: Californian mode change? 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That's what this station sends when it's not sending revs. G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204068269064500991 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4198be7f4bc34dbdcf9a69f0fa5ef8eb7b20c7a6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs123476wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr3584514nfe; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4751491nfc.2006.05.22.02.09.42; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6La-0006Dt-G0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:05:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6La-0006Dk-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:05:06 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi6LU-0004KQ-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:05:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 56611 invoked from network); 22 May 2006 09:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.40 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2006 09:04:55 -0000 Message-ID: <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:04:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.260 Subject: LF: Re: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5254 >From G3PLX: Mike said: >I have not listened for the Californian Naval rtty station on 135.95 for a >while. >I note tonight that they seem to be using a new mode which appears as five >carriers at 25Hz spacing centred on 135.950kHz. That smells a bit like 50 baud 100Hz-shift FSK reversals. Maybe someone in California can get it strong enough to tell us. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204822787652527890 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7cfbba67b5bb4a7dd228aa898cdce3a91f04e4e6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs29415wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.1 with SMTP id h1mr2734732nfi; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si5459299nfe.2006.05.30.10.02.27; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7RX-0007M8-La for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 17:51:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7RX-0007Lz-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 17:51:43 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl7RR-0006ji-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 17:51:42 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Fl7RQ-00051K-00; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:51:36 +0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (VUdLUmZX8eiIIzftlILN0mkdJnTS9kX6nerFDFLxOS0hGRmSoEbOcP@[84.145.206.43]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Fl7RJ-0oh30i0; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:51:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de (Hans-Joachim Brandt) To: "RSGB LF-Group-Server" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0036 Date: 30 May 2006 16:33 GMT Message-ID: <1Fl7RJ-0oh30i0@fwd29.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: VUdLUmZX8eiIIzftlILN0mkdJnTS9kX6nerFDFLxOS0hGRmSoEbOcP X-TOI-MSGID: c359c63b-8fbc-4f34-bc3c-b3c9be030719 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.037 Subject: LF: Beacon 1960 kHz Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5260 Dear Andy, on May 30th from 00.30 to 01.00 UTC I have received your beacon on 1960 kHz= in the southeast of Germany (eastern Bavaria), QTH JN68GN, with a maximum = of S5 at full power (noise level at about S3). The following power down ste= ps caused the signal to disappear quickly. At 02.45 UTC the callsign could = not be copied correctly because of QSB, but with good reading at 01.00 UTC.= Therefore for easier identification I would recommend to send the callsign= QSZ2 or QSZ3, somewhat lower speed would also be helpful.=20 Receiving aerial has been my T-aerial for LF, without any tuning. Receiver = is an old TS-830s but still in good shape. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203998431837806160 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e587161cd87ac157f3ea1aa41e1956c32999114c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs98925wra; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.12 with SMTP id d12mr2983363nfg; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si3905354nfc.2006.05.21.07.39.40; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fhp3e-0004NS-Cq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:37:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fhp3Z-0004NJ-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 15:37:21 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FhqcY-0007At-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:17:38 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3852211 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 16:37:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44707B19.1090308@online.fr> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:37:13 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006e01c67cd8$9344d620$2101a8c0@whitehead1> In-Reply-To: <006e01c67cd8$9344d620$2101a8c0@whitehead1> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.767 Subject: Re: LF: Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5264 Hello all ! re test ! it is ok 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ whitehead@gonuts4free.com a =E9crit : > Test From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203545094598401676 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 947c384295da847cb8d8f636d507396616b025e6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs37903wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.220.3 with SMTP id s3mr3214657nfg; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si977772nfc.2006.05.16.07.34.04; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg0aV-0001du-On for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:31:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg0aV-0001dl-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:31:51 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg273-00066y-14 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:09:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 20664 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 14:30:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.102.85 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 14:30:39 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c678f5$4d8dd820$55668351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003e01c678db$dc5cad70$0200a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:03:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.039 Subject: LF: Re: Rb standard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5265 Hi Walter I looked at one of those on eBay but bearing in mind your previous warnings about some Rb lamps..... it went beyond my (mean) bid. It looks like another case of "ten year life lamps" ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Blanchard To: Sent: 16 May 2006 12:28 Subject: LF: Rb standard A number of TAIT T801 frequency standards have just appeared on the UK surplus market. They're ex-cellphone bases and I understand have been ditched in favour of GPS-locked standards. Consist of an Rb standard driving a couple of 12.6 MHz synthesizers that can be digitally offset by a few Hz. The interesting bit is the Rb standard which is a Frequency Electronics Inc. model 5660A. Its output is 10 MHz and on switch-on it ramps up and down over a few kHz searching for Rb lock. You can see it on a frequency counter. If it's working then after about 3-4 mins it stops quite suddenly and the "Lock" light comes on, if not it goes on searching forever and the lock light stays off. Unfortunately the ramping is a built-in software function and (unless somebody knows better) can't be switched off so if no lock not useful as an ordinary 10 MHz. osc. When locked, can be set precisely on frequency with a small trimmer. Anybody know anything about these units? FEI website not very helpful. Have checked four and three were dead. The good one had a 2000 datestamp, the others 1996-1998 so might be a clue there. I sent an email to FEI asking how long they were good for but no answer. Walter G3JKV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204238083749053371 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9ae56aed2809aa27c6a6ef63fe8051150dc7adab Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs37631wra; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.12.2 with SMTP id p2mr4432245nfi; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si7332426nfc.2006.05.24.04.35.58; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fira5-0002qy-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:31:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fira1-0002qp-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:31:09 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FirZv-0000Jr-O7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:31:09 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45B471BE2 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 13:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <447443F4.8040303@online.fr> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:31:00 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <41fab27d7f786@wp.pl> <001901c67ef7$f709e300$6501a8c0@eagles> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.526 Subject: Re: LF: Progress at VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5273 Hello Joe , Sorry , i do not have a correct receiver for this frequency . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Joe Craig a =E9crit : > Hello JA and group. > > Congrats on getting your station up and ready. I hope > you have as much fun as I have been having. Getting reports > from across the pond is very gratifying and the support over > the internet has been second to none! > > My 137.777 kHz TX is temporarily off. In the mean time the > 1600m TX is now on at 187.37 kHz. This was copied by Hartmut > Wolff again yesterday. Any reports are very welcomed. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204238083749053371 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a9f5f86dbecfd2a1ce5a271b26d410722d604e8d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs37208wra; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.61.19 with SMTP id o19mr5607445nfk; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si7670160nfc.2006.05.24.04.17.04; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FirFw-0002jc-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:10:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FirFw-0002jT-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:10:24 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FirFq-0004ZD-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 12:10:23 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4OBA9WA021770 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 08:40:09 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k4OBA9JI018773 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 08:40:09 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k4OBA8tc022195; Wed, 24 May 2006 08:40:08 -0230 (NDT) Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 08:40:08 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001901c67ef7$f709e300$6501a8c0@eagles> Message-ID: References: <41fab27d7f786@wp.pl> <001901c67ef7$f709e300$6501a8c0@eagles> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.985 Subject: Re: LF: Progress at VY1JA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5274 Hello JA and group. Congrats on getting your station up and ready. I hope you have as much fun as I have been having. Getting reports from across the pond is very gratifying and the support over the internet has been second to none! My 137.777 kHz TX is temporarily off. In the mean time the 1600m TX is now on at 187.37 kHz. This was copied by Hartmut Wolff again yesterday. Any reports are very welcomed. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204238083749053371 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b8b145921cb2449033cc9f310768543309e2cdee Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30109wra; Tue, 23 May 2006 23:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.225.3 with SMTP id x3mr1074987nfg; Tue, 23 May 2006 23:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si7336484nfa.2006.05.23.23.08.50; Tue, 23 May 2006 23:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FimUc-0002Jr-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 07:05:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FimUc-0002Ji-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 07:05:14 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FimUX-0006Z2-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 07:05:14 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id CA8F72CFB for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 00:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <001901c67ef7$f709e300$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <41fab27d7f786@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:04:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.662,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Progress at VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5275 All, VY1JA on 137573.5 is beaconing 24/7. Of course, minus time for listening, QSOs, weather, and system maintenance. In a couple of weeks, the frequency will shift to 137778.45 when a parts shipment should be arriving, which will allow for VFO repair and QRO operation. A couple of years ago, I would never have considered 1W IERP as QRO. :o) Please send questions, comments or screen captures (dreaming here of next winter, of course), to my return email address. By the fall, my son should have the VY1JA webpage made, and the station will be at its best. LF is expected to be my main focus until May 2007, when our renewals are expected to end. If I can help anyone by watching for your signal when propagation is good, let me know. If I get a capture of anything which looks valuable, I will send it. I would like to give special thanks to Steve, VE7SL, Scott, VE7TIL and also thanks to Marek, SQ5BPM who all helped with my station, by a number of long distance assists. Have a great summer, and watch for VY1JA beacon QRSS60 this fall on ~137778.45. JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203650094570396729 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 17ab178630d26d8116b87e925b4f1b92d7ad8e4b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs91373wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.2 with SMTP id s2mr991258nfj; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si2362902nfb.2006.05.17.11.23.00; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FgQdj-0004vT-6b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:20:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FgQdi-0004vK-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:20:54 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgSaj-0005aV-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:26:12 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.32.115.114) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 446A5B2500022C11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:39 +0200 Message-ID: <003601c679de$8cdb7110$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SAQ in EA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C679EF.50000100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5276 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C679EF.50000100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all: Sorry about my previous message, I clicked in a wrong room. SAQ received here in the morning too, as usually. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C679EF.50000100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all:
 
Sorry about my previous message, I = clicked in a=20 wrong room.
 
SAQ received here in the morning too, = as=20 usually.
 
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, = IN53ti
 
 
 
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30 May 2006 10:20:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.110.203 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 May 2006 10:20:29 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c683d2$adc55780$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> <001b01c6835c$99d152e0$0300a8c0@lark> <000901c68364$7903d3a0$b8c428c3@captbrian> <005601c68368$38cc7a40$0300a8c0@lark> <000b01c6839a$0e1b24e0$11c428c3@captbrian> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:20:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.849,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.832 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5279 Hi Bryan, not as far as I know. here is how i would do it. Click EDIT >FIND Select the date range you want to scan and insert the Rule (ie the serch string) in the subject line. When it has found all the messages that match. Click EDIT again and select all (they will all go blue) then right click on the blue area and click "Move to" on the menu and complete the command. This will move all the selected files to the folder of your choice. Its a bit longer winded and you can "Drag and drop" 'em (the whole blue area) but this way is reasonably easy, and proof against dodgy "mousing" I think Andy's 160m beacon went off at about 0600z this morning. Cheers de Alan (in IPSWICH) G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: captbrian To: Sent: 30 May 2006 04:35 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > Alan, > > You dun gud agn. TU > > I am never sure whether cw abb. TU means Thank You or To You. > > Now then: is there a method of applying the message rules retrospectively? > There are 1800 odd messages in my inbox and I would now like to run the > inbox through the (later written) message rules so as to make it as if the > messages had already been written when the messages arrived. > > Bryan (was away all winter) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > Hi Brian > > Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I > could > > be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find > > facility. > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: captbrian > > To: > > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 > > Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > > > > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked > > too. > > > Thank you : > > > > > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message > > with > > > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho > ; > > > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > > > > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > > > > > Bryan G3GVB > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204068961337046285 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f076391ee43df1a14f6f407d078203cb62bd7546 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs123732wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.87.3 with SMTP id p3mr3580350nfl; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si5070187nfa.2006.05.22.02.20.42; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6X0-0006V9-Az for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:16:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6X0-0006V0-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:16:54 +0100 Received: from fep04.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi6Wu-0004Rm-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:16:54 +0100 Received: from mikes ([222.154.78.14]) by fep04.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060522091611.KIID19789.fep04.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 21:16:11 +1200 Message-ID: <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:16:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.048 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5285 Thanks Peter and Laurence. Does that mean the tx is just idling and sending no data? Mike From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203453586141310177 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e5caaf2292611fb94a5829d9d97b6f85c5e2cbcb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs81wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.9 with SMTP id n9mr3635911nfi; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si3670547nfa.2006.05.15.09.42.08; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffg3R-00063E-Jb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 17:36:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffg3R-000635-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 17:36:21 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfhZX-0004oU-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:13:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 22638 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 16:36:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.157.70 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2006 16:36:10 -0000 Message-ID: <007c01c6783d$ac492210$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000701c6781b$637b1a60$2102000a@ibm> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:36:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.291 Subject: LF: Re: meter problem (2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5287 >From G3PLX: Dick: Sorry, decimal place wrong. The emitter resistor should be about 2200 ohms, or to be precise (9-0.7) volts divided by 3.5mA. I hope you haven't damaged the meter already! 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203453586141310177 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d6caba2777026f4d50cff4db58bf58c354e57511 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30057wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.12.15 with SMTP id p15mr1517312nfi; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si2191018nfb.2006.05.15.07.19.31; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfdoF-0005fz-Ex for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfdoE-0005fq-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:12:31 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FffKH-0003lA-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:49:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 16126 invoked from network); 15 May 2006 14:12:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.157.70 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2006 14:12:20 -0000 Message-ID: <005301c67829$9481e1d0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000701c6781b$637b1a60$2102000a@ibm> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:12:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.305 Subject: LF: Re: meter problem (2) Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5288 Dick: With the figures you just gave, I would suggest you to connect the voltage from the RF sensor circuit straight to the base of an ordinary npn transistor, connect the negative terminal of your 10mA meter to the collector of this transistor, with the positive terminal of the meter going to a suitable positive supply (12v?). The emitter of the transistor goes to ground through a 220 ohm resistor. The voltage of the supply isn't critical. To fine-tune the sensitivity you could make the 220ohm resistor adjustable. As Dave says, there will be a slight 'knee' in the characteristic, so the meter will read low if you run low power, and perhaps even not register at all if the power is less than 1.75 watts, but if you will not normally operate that low in power, you will probably never notice this. 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203480389281731758 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ee06dc73d41ed11a05affaa4d1930de9fe89c8ec Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs9244wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.15 with SMTP id n15mr2513959nfj; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si111599nfc.2006.05.15.14.25.36; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfkVk-0006yZ-6A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:21:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfkVj-0006yQ-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:21:51 +0100 Received: from grunt8.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfmS3-0003c2-AO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 00:26:26 +0100 Received: from 203-173-156-36.bliink.ihug.co.nz (athlon1200) [203.173.156.36] by grunt8.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FfkUR-0005Rg-00; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:20:31 +1200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.392 [268.5.6/339]); Tue, 16 May 2006 09:20:51 +1200 Message-ID: <080401c67865$719a85a0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <001a01c6777d$448fa600$2201a8c0@pcroelof> <043e01c67799$8ccbb5a0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> <002901c67843$ff9d5200$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:20:51 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: miniwhip testing - was T/A May 14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=response X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5293 Hi Roelof The results of testing with the battery operated SPM-3 may give a clearer picture of what is happening. Your test data appears to show the metallic pole is reducing the effective height of the active antenna. But it may actually be more to do with the metal support disturbing the (assumed constant with height) field strength of the incident vertically polarised signal. The effect of grounding or otherwise the coax immediately beneath the active antenna mounted on a non-metallic pole is interesting. 73 Dave ZL3FJ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204744516742922632 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 62f7cc0974d331201ca57693209e9c35c8efcedd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs88120wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 13:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.217.15 with SMTP id p15mr2008832nfg; Mon, 29 May 2006 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si4436142nfc.2006.05.29.13.18.22; Mon, 29 May 2006 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkoA6-0004SF-QS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:16:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkoA6-0004S6-Bm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:16:26 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FkoA3-0003lH-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:16:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 20876 invoked from network); 29 May 2006 20:15:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.8.161 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2006 20:15:16 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c6835c$99d152e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:15:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.840 Subject: LF: Re: how to do? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5295 Hi Brian go to "TOOLS" click the MAINTENANCE tab and then check the top box which says something like "delete items in the deleted folder on exiting OE". The every time you leave OE it will clear the deleted folder. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: captbrian To: Sent: 29 May 2006 20:45 Subject: LF: how to do? > well then ditto here except a spam advt. for the 'blue pill'.. > > Are you at least one step up on me and know how to delete the "deleted > items" in outlook express Version 6? > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > Sent: 29 May 2006 15:13 > Subject: LF: Just testing. > > > > I have not had any e-mails at all today from any source, so just checking. > > > > No response required. > > > > Gary. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203651574532773518 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b67fdb3c40f24f765b3d5f7f1490acab3746e7d2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs92248wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.1.19 with SMTP id 19mr1003327nfa; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si1330572nfc.2006.05.17.11.46.31; Wed, 17 May 2006 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FgQzI-00052g-DO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:43:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FgQzI-00052X-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:43:12 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgSwE-0005ox-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:48:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 50239 invoked from network); 17 May 2006 18:42:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.12.87 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2006 18:42:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c679e1$b573b760$570c8351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:42:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.933 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5296 Hi Gary, Mmmm I dunno it worked for me (clicked on the line below) at 1940 BST so it must have been busy when you tried Cheers de Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: Sent: 17 May 2006 18:54 Subject: LF: RE: Re: MSF off the air > Hi Alan, > > The MSF link dosn't appear to work!! > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 17 May 2006 00:44 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: MSF off the air > > > Hi Jose Daytime maintenance to do with the move next year see > http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msfoutages.html > for all the details > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose Manuel > To: > Sent: 16 May 2006 23:52 > Subject: LF: MSF off the air > > > Hello all: > > Does anybody know why MSF is off the air? > > > 73, Jos�, EA1PX > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204832799002750076 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b6f0587234fabdc49fefb371935fd0433b22e56d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6667wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.246.12 with SMTP id t12mr70178nfh; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si1474970nfb.2006.05.30.12.41.34; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlA38-0008Rb-ND for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:38:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlA38-0008RS-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:38:42 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FlA35-0006BG-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:38:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 13894 invoked from network); 30 May 2006 19:38:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.69.15 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 May 2006 19:38:33 -0000 Message-ID: <002501c68420$a36eb800$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:38:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.818 Subject: LF: Andy's beacon active again Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5298 Hi all, I see Andy's Top-band beacon is active again 30dB s/n here at 1931z. Monitoring s/w is available for logging via a sound card on the RSGB site 5MHz pages. The program is that used to monitor GB3RALand other 5MHz beacons, written by Peter G3PLX. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203531714574823309 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 895740052bd8e996f18ca490e32819352251bb4e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30270wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.16 with SMTP id t16mr4340039nfj; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si782874nfc.2006.05.16.04.01.24; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxGI-0000Um-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:58:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxGI-0000Ud-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:58:46 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfzCo-0002lQ-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:03:33 +0100 Received: from Fujitsu (81.224.199.134) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.072.1) id 4468E07500028A42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:54:39 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c678d7$21a23c60$0201a8c0@Fujitsu> From: "Christer Andersson" To: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:54:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Disposition-Notification-To: "Christer Andersson" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: W&G SPM11 schematic Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5301 Does anyone know where to find a W&G SPM11 schematic diagram, or even better, a service manual? Christer SM6PXJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204632287542779431 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bd5b1cdef4651ee9ec397d5c96c1bdaaca330964 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs47023wra; Sun, 28 May 2006 09:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.3 with SMTP id d3mr1056808nfg; Sun, 28 May 2006 09:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si2824068nfb.2006.05.28.09.08.23; Sun, 28 May 2006 09:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNlY-0002gY-Un for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 17:05:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNlY-0002gP-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 17:05:20 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FkNlV-0008H3-2Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 17:05:20 +0100 Received: from [217.251.226.81] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1FkNlS0V9y-0001vI; Sun, 28 May 2006 18:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 18:05:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.042 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_COST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5306 Hi Wolf, yes, indeed, your link is correct, thanks for correcting the typo! Besides the general ability for everyone to switch on DI2BO for a pre-set time by phone I am myself able to control DI2BO by mobile phone (by SMS). Currently I just can switch it on and off, later I will also be able to switch the power from high to low and also the mode from CW to QRSS and vice-versa. I can update the website information by e-Mail from my mobile phone, too, so I think I have everything under control from my pocket -hi- ... I can even read the temperature of the PA-module from a remote location. The toy doing all that is a new cllphone/remote control module that you can get for example at Conrad Electronic. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" > Hello Holger, > > A nice idea, phone-activated beacon ! > The link should have been http://www.qru.de/di2bo.html , right ? > > 73 and GL, Wolf DL4YHF . > > > Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb: > > > Hi YLs / OMs, > > > > the experimental radio station DI2BO on 440 kHz is currently running > > as a "Beacon on Demand". This is a function I will mainly use on > > normal weekdays when activity is low. If somebody wants to check the > > beacon signal during those times, just call the phone number *+ 49 - > > 173 - 64 66 981* in Germany from any phone. If activated, this phone > > call will switch on DI2BO for a limited time period. The phone will > > NOT pick up, so there is (should be, check please check with your > > local phone provider) NO CHARGE for this call. > > > > I will try to post the current status of the Beacon on my website > > http://www.qr.de/di2bo.html > > > > Best 73 > > > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204632287542779431 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4a1a3a25bf55bdae0b69ebbecf8fd5e25accf375 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs46518wra; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr1038453nfg; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si2820370nfc.2006.05.28.08.38.57; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNJQ-0002Tx-Ka for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:36:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNJQ-0002To-28 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:36:16 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FkNJK-0007xK-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:36:16 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FkNJJ-0005Vh-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 17:36:09 +0200 Received: from p54868ba7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.139.167] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1FkNJJ-0004Oo-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 17:36:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 15:37:14 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> In-Reply-To: <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.881 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_COST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5307 Hello Holger, A nice idea, phone-activated beacon ! The link should have been http://www.qru.de/di2bo.html , right ? 73 and GL, Wolf DL4YHF . Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb: > Hi YLs / OMs, > > the experimental radio station DI2BO on 440 kHz is currently running > as a "Beacon on Demand". This is a function I will mainly use on > normal weekdays when activity is low. If somebody wants to check the > beacon signal during those times, just call the phone number *+ 49 - > 173 - 64 66 981* in Germany from any phone. If activated, this phone > call will switch on DI2BO for a limited time period. The phone will > NOT pick up, so there is (should be, check please check with your > local phone provider) NO CHARGE for this call. > > I will try to post the current status of the Beacon on my website > http://www.qr.de/di2bo.html > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204632287542779431 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7bf420bc4473affd108ec9c7261f2e79efc38ec1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs45338wra; Sun, 28 May 2006 07:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.1 with SMTP id h1mr1010188nfi; Sun, 28 May 2006 07:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si2770526nfb.2006.05.28.07.34.32; Sun, 28 May 2006 07:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkMJ7-0002MX-2M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 15:31:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkMJ6-0002MO-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 15:31:52 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FkMJ2-00071T-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 15:31:52 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.30] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1FkMJ11TA0-0001oZ; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:31:47 +0200 Message-ID: <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:31:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.028,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C68274.34DB6AD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_COST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C68274.34DB6AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi YLs / OMs, the experimental radio station DI2BO on 440 kHz is currently running as = a "Beacon on Demand". This is a function I will mainly use on normal = weekdays when activity is low. If somebody wants to check the beacon = signal during those times, just call the phone number + 49 - 173 - 64 66 = 981 in Germany from any phone. If activated, this phone call will switch = on DI2BO for a limited time period. The phone will NOT pick up, so there = is (should be, check please check with your local phone provider) NO = CHARGE for this call.=20 I will try to post the current status of the Beacon on my website = http://www.qr.de/di2bo.html Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C68274.34DB6AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi YLs / OMs,
 
the experimental radio station DI2BO on = 440 kHz is=20 currently running as a "Beacon on Demand". This is a function I = will mainly=20 use on normal weekdays when activity is low. If somebody wants to check = the=20 beacon signal during those times, just call the phone number = + 49 -=20 173 - 64 66 981 in Germany from any phone. If activated, this = phone=20 call will switch on DI2BO for a limited time period. The phone will NOT = pick up,=20 so there is (should be, check please check with your local phone=20 provider) NO CHARGE for this = call.=20
 
I will try to post the current = status of the=20 Beacon on my website http://www.qr.de/di2bo.html
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C68274.34DB6AD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203660647560268523 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f522eef4bcbc046152176283f30a3c013929bf46 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs96655wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr1116796nfg; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si87223nfc.2006.05.17.14.10.44; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FgTF0-0005WL-Fg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:07:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FgTEz-0005WC-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:07:33 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgVC0-00076a-CO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:12:54 +0100 Received: from 88-106-151-81.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.151.81]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 17 May 2006 22:06:07 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAEcqa0SJECw Received: from 88-106-151-81.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.151.81]:1376 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FgT9E-0008QG-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:01:36 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:05:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601c679e1$b573b760$570c8351@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.765,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5315 Hi Alan, Still no joy, can't even get www.npl.co.uk even tried re-starting PC. I have tried several times today. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 17 May 2006 19:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air Hi Gary, Mmmm I dunno it worked for me (clicked on the line below) at 1940 BST so it must have been busy when you tried Cheers de Alan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203646854755499378 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cba07001db50032fbb72d29fca65725bfcbcdd95 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs89122wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.17 with SMTP id s17mr947390nfj; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si2296113nfc.2006.05.17.10.31.30; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FgPmv-0004bH-Gj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:26:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FgPmv-0004b8-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:26:21 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgRK1-0000NI-0c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:04:41 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.32.115.114) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 446A5B2500020DE6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:26:16 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c679d6$f4010e70$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <001401c6793b$59916510$2201a8c0@PC2> <001001c67942$9baac3e0$d5828351@lark> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:25:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5318 Hello Alan and all: Thanks for the info, I see now that=B4s again on the air. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: LF: Re: MSF off the air > Hi Jose Daytime maintenance to do with the move next year see > http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msfoutages.html > for all the details > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose Manuel > To: > Sent: 16 May 2006 23:52 > Subject: LF: MSF off the air > > > Hello all: > > Does anybody know why MSF is off the air? > > > 73, Jos=E9, EA1PX > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204782654375897261 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 910c4ec3d727e1336a52c5256fe4e00214403178 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs12823wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.51.15 with SMTP id d15mr2462647nfk; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si5155734nfe.2006.05.30.04.01.16; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl1uh-0006U9-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:57:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl1uh-0006U0-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:57:27 +0100 Received: from mxsf04.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl1ud-0003eE-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:57:27 +0100 Received: from mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.131]) by mxsf04.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4UAv020017004 for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 06:57:01 -0400 Received: from 24-177-53-244.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([24.177.53.244]) by mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 30 May 2006 06:57:00 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,189,1146456000"; d="scan'208"; a="63452012:sNHT36560292" Message-ID: <447C1742.2090306@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:58:26 +0100 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <447BE3DA.2000706@online.fr> In-Reply-To: <447BE3DA.2000706@online.fr> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.348 Subject: Re: LF: T/ A the last night WD2XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5320 Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the report! John Andrews, W1TAG > > *Only traces of WD2XES (just readable) > * > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204782654375897261 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ae8632b1c061819eb3ad97d3ea91aee290615898 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6004wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 23:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.1 with SMTP id h1mr2289841nfi; Mon, 29 May 2006 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si513055nfe.2006.05.29.23.24.33; Mon, 29 May 2006 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkxZX-0005m6-MF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 07:19:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkxZS-0005lx-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 07:19:14 +0100 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FkxZN-0000Fb-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 07:19:14 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF439ABC6 for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:19:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <447BE3DA.2000706@online.fr> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:19:06 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)) X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.752,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/ A the last night WD2XES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090100020701020604090102" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5321 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090100020701020604090102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! *Only traces of WD2XES (just readable) * the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht --------------090100020701020604090102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry poor conditions for me !

Only traces of WD2XES (just readable)

the captures of the night are on :
http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/

73 qro Jean-Pierre  f1afj   JN06ht
 
--------------090100020701020604090102-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204800365128606925 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ac46ad339f8ce1009c26ee7d70a1aad3d97e1d39 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs12949wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.6 with SMTP id n6mr2471855nfi; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si5167687nfa.2006.05.30.04.06.03; Tue, 30 May 2006 04:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl1zQ-0006a5-5o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:02:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl1zP-0006Zw-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:02:19 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fl1zM-0001nF-0t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:02:19 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.37]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id k4UB2gHR012698 for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 12:02:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001401c683d7$aacb5f20$258cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:56:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.518 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5323 I turned it off this morning, not much point having it on in daylight hours. My home QTH - IO90IV58 Andy G4JNT QTHR -----Original Message----- From: captbrian To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 2006/05/30 08:57 Subject: LF: Re: Experimental MF Beacon test >Nothing heard 0800 . are you running continuously? >Where is the transmitter? > >Bryan Nr. Brighton > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andy Talbot" >To: "LF Group" >Cc: "API(Work)" ; "API(Home)" ; "WKL" >; "Alan Melia" >Sent: 29 May 2006 16:36 >Subject: LF: Experimental MF Beacon test > > >> I am currently testing a low power experimental beacon on 1960.000kHz +/- >> 1Hz. >> It uses a transmission format similar to that of the 5MHz beacons, >> GB3RAL/WES >> and ORK, execpt that the sounder sequence is replaced by a PSK31 message. >> >> The sequence transmitted is : >> T+0s CW Callsign >> T+7 - T+15s Nine power steps with the output reduced by 6dB each time >> for a total of -48dB >> T+16 - T+24 A repeat of the power steps. >> T+25 - T+30 Full power (level measurement reference period) >> T+30 - T+47 PSK31 data >> T+47 - T+59 Full power >> >> The reference time T starts at one minute past the hour and repeats every >15 >> minutes, so transmissions occur at 01, 16, 31 and 46 minutes past the >hour. >> >> If the 'GB3RAL' monitoring software is used for logging this signal, the >> transmission will be shown and recorded as if it were that from GB3WES. >> >> The transmissions will continue overnight, and will hopefully be switched >on >> for >> subsequent evening & overnight runs. Power output is 3Watts to my 7m >high >> Tee antenna - esimated gain -9dBd >> >> The beacon hardware consists of an identical DDS and PIC controller to >that >> used on GB3VHF, although without the GPS locking; frequency is derived >from >> a TCXO alone. A Motorola Oncore GPS module controls timing. Completely >new >> PIC software uses the 12 bits of amplitude control possible within the >> AD9852 DDS chip to generate the power steps directly rather than having to >> use a separate programmable attenuator as was done for the 5MHz beacons. >> The PSK31 envelope is directly generaed at RF by looking up 250 >> half-sinewave >> amplitude values for each 31.25 baud symbol at a sampling rate of >7812.5Hz. >> >> Full details of both the 5MHz beacon designs and the driver for GB3VHF can >> be >> found on the website below >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 2006-05-28 >> >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204874370085518348 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 704b8063be48e012236232de935d47e3e7824634 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6539wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.207.15 with SMTP id e15mr500445nfg; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si6049423nfc.2006.05.30.23.42.20; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlKJv-0001T8-Og for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:36:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlKJt-0001Sz-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:36:41 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FlKJo-0003LQ-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:36:41 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-234.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.234] helo=captbrian) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FlKI0-0004FH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01c6847b$4bf79b40$eace28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:27:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5330 Yes thanks. Puzzled by no messages this morning, then remembered they were no longer in inbox LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: 30 May 2006 18:09 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > Brian, > > I may be a bit late on this one, but there is "move to folder" & "move a > copy to folder" & you need the first. I bet you've already worked it out by > now. > > 73, > > Gary - G4WGT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > Hi Brian > Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I could > be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find > facility. > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: captbrian > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked > too. > > Thank you : > > > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message > with > > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; > > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > > > Bryan G3GVB > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204823415736482179 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c80b54079e15e1ac03e47127b4a52718be6db700 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30000wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.56.19 with SMTP id e19mr688745hua; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 39si1194973hui.2006.05.30.10.12.26; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7ik-0007SZ-4Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7ij-0007SQ-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:29 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fl7ig-0004l1-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:29 +0100 Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.141.245]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 30 May 2006 18:09:17 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAADsWfESJTyw Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.141.245]:1456 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Fl7iX-000K1N-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 17:09:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:45 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <005601c68368$38cc7a40$0300a8c0@lark> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.594,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5332 Brian, I may be a bit late on this one, but there is "move to folder" & "move a copy to folder" & you need the first. I bet you've already worked it out by now. 73, Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Hi Brian Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I could be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find facility. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: captbrian To: Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked too. > Thank you : > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message with > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > Bryan G3GVB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204823397967626602 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 386399dee75b280658def8a27c0d8276cfee0804 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs29983wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.40.10 with SMTP id n10mr686917hun; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 27si1092913hua.2006.05.30.10.12.09; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7ie-0007SM-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7ie-0007SD-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:24 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl7ia-0006ub-Bi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:24 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-172.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.172] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Fl7iZ-000KOa-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:09:19 +0100 Message-ID: <006701c6840a$c791d340$11c428c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <000701c683ee$225bbb50$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:02:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5338 also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: ; ; "K�HTF" To: Sent: 30 May 2006 14:36 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > I thought "TNX" was Thanks. > > Doc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of captbrian > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 22:35 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > Alan, > > You dun gud agn. TU > > I am never sure whether cw abb. TU means Thank You or To You. > > Now then: is there a method of applying the message rules retrospectively? > There are 1800 odd messages in my inbox and I would now like to run the > inbox through the (later written) message rules so as to make it as if the > messages had already been written when the messages arrived. > > Bryan (was away all winter) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > Hi Brian > > Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I > could > > be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find > > facility. > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: captbrian > > To: > > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 > > Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > > > > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked > > too. > > > Thank you : > > > > > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message > > with > > > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho > ; > > > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > > > > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > > > > > Bryan G3GVB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203533621080903190 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2e0ef3cbe53be0e0fcfb01c271d9f6605fb06271 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs31052wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr3037193nfe; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si809471nfc.2006.05.16.04.31.42; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffxjd-0000lK-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:29:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffxjd-0000lB-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:29:05 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ffzg9-00038O-R4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:33:53 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 (cpc3-leat1-0-0-cust70.hers.cable.ntl.com [86.3.124.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4GBTGsw008051 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:29:17 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c678db$dc5cad70$0200a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:28:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.048,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Rb standard Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C678E4.3A972B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5354 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C678E4.3A972B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A number of TAIT T801 frequency standards have just appeared on the UK = surplus market. They're ex-cellphone bases and I understand have been ditched in favour = of GPS-locked standards.=20 Consist of an Rb standard driving a couple of 12.6 MHz synthesizers that = can be digitally offset by a few Hz. The interesting bit is the Rb standard which is a Frequency Electronics = Inc. model 5660A. Its output is 10 MHz and on switch-on it ramps up and down over a few = kHz searching for Rb lock. You can see it on a frequency counter. If it's working then after about 3-4 mins it stops = quite suddenly and the "Lock" light comes on, if not it goes on searching forever and the lock light stays = off. Unfortunately the ramping is a built-in=20 software function and (unless somebody knows better) can't be switched = off so if no lock not=20 useful as an ordinary 10 MHz. osc. When locked, can be set precisely on = frequency with a small trimmer.=20 Anybody know anything about these units? FEI website not very helpful. Have checked four and three were dead. The good one had a 2000 = datestamp, the others 1996-1998 so might be a clue there. I sent an email to FEI asking = how long they were good=20 for but no answer. Walter G3JKV. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C678E4.3A972B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A number of TAIT T801 frequency=20 standards have just appeared on the UK surplus market.
They're ex-cellphone bases and I = understand have=20 been ditched in favour of GPS-locked standards.=20
Consist of an Rb standard driving a = couple of 12.6=20 MHz synthesizers that can be digitally offset by a few=20 Hz.
The interesting bit is the Rb = standard which=20 is a Frequency Electronics Inc. = model=20 5660A.
Its output is 10 MHz = and on=20 switch-on it ramps up and down over a few kHz searching for Rb = lock.=20 You can see it on
a frequency counter. If it's working = then after=20 about 3-4 mins it stops quite suddenly and the "Lock" light
comes on, if not it goes on searching = forever and=20 the lock light stays off. Unfortunately the=20 ramping is a built-in 
software function and (unless = somebody knows=20 better) can't be switched off so if no lock not 
useful as an ordinary 10 MHz. osc. = When locked, can be set precisely on frequency = with a small=20 trimmer. 
Anybody know anything about=20 these units? FEI website = not very=20 helpful.
Have checked four and three were = dead.  The=20 good one had a 2000 datestamp, the
others 1996-1998 so might be a = clue there.=20 I sent an email to FEI asking how = long they were=20 good
for but no answer.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
  
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Tue, 30 May 2006 19:33:42 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl928-0007kS-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 19:33:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 28385 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 2006 18:33:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.202]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 30 May 2006 18:33:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c68416$353bdb60$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:23:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.839,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: my 136kHz transmitter final pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5366 Hello all, Some more pictures on the PA6Z website: www.pa6z.nl from my 136kHz transmitter, now finished......... 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203532047649718537 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a2e8839fe7359dc627a92a21e8e8e2f11905ac42 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30394wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.16 with SMTP id p16mr3213917nfh; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si777469nfe.2006.05.16.04.06.41; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxLu-0000cL-61 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:04:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxLt-0000cC-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:04:33 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfzIN-0002qS-9y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:09:21 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 (cpc3-leat1-0-0-cust70.hers.cable.ntl.com [86.3.124.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4GB4D4h031731 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:04:17 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c678d8$5e486670$0200a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: References: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> <00ba01c678d4$0aee5830$0101a8c0@BUERO> <002a01c678d6$59056ca0$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:03:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: DATONG VLF converter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5369 I've got one as well and anything over a 2m rod drives it into intermod. If you want it for 136 you'll need a fairly decent bandpass filter in front, the narrower the better. Walter G3JKV. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: LF: Re: DATONG VLF converter > Hi Jo > The Datong converter I had had a PP3 9volt battery installed. It was > originally intended for listening to BC stations on an amateur rig at > 28MHz. > I think it is notionally 10kHz to 500kHz ...there is a LP filter in the > antenna. There is a circuit diagram on one of my web pages....the direct > URL > is > http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/loscprob.htm#Datong%20VLF%20Converter > > It does not like to work from a big antenna and may need some attenuation > to > avoid IMD products. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johannes Wilke > To: RSGB LF Group > Sent: 16 May 2006 11:32 > Subject: LF: DATONG VLF converter > > >> Greetings all, >> >> I've found an old DATONG VLF converter without manual. Does somebody know >> the supply voltage and frequency range? >> >> 73 Jo, DK2PH >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204874208452454460 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7df9553b5208380e5091cafffb24e38f6bce8daa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6495wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.31.13 with SMTP id i13mr485448nfj; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si58177nfc.2006.05.30.23.39.45; Tue, 30 May 2006 23:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlKHk-0001RO-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:34:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlKHk-0001RF-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:34:28 +0100 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FlKHh-0003Ky-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:34:28 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-234.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.234] helo=captbrian) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FlKGR-000J8K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c6847b$124fc7a0$eace28c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <006701c6840a$c791d340$11c428c3@captbrian> <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:25:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: TU in Morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5372 Thats clear then :-(( TU all . TU Mike. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: 30 May 2006 18:48 Subject: LF: TU in Morse > TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) > than TKS or TNX. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > > I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will > > confirm!!! > > > > 73 > > > > Gary - G4WGT > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian > > Sent: 30 May 2006 18:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: > > Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > > > also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ > > On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. > > > > Bryan > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204748544182297978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fd4094759f0fd1aa9ed5aff50a3d2b3a91ccf8d9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs89438wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr1364901nfe; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si4475159nfb.2006.05.29.14.22.21; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkp8c-0004cd-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:18:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkp8c-0004cU-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:18:58 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fkp8W-0005SJ-Ud for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:18:57 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-184.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.184] helo=captbrian) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Fkp8U-0004al-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:18:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c68364$7903d3a0$b8c428c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> <001b01c6835c$99d152e0$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:11:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5374 I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked too. Thank you : Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message with LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? Bryan G3GVB Now then I have ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: 29 May 2006 21:15 Subject: LF: Re: how to do? > Hi Brian go to "TOOLS" click the MAINTENANCE tab and then check the top box > which says something like "delete items in the deleted folder on exiting > OE". The every time you leave OE it will clear the deleted folder. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: captbrian > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 20:45 > Subject: LF: how to do? > > > > well then ditto here except a spam advt. for the 'blue pill'.. > > > > Are you at least one step up on me and know how to delete the "deleted > > items" in outlook express Version 6? > > > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > > To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" > > Sent: 29 May 2006 15:13 > > Subject: LF: Just testing. > > > > > > > I have not had any e-mails at all today from any source, so just > checking. > > > > > > No response required. > > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203438430927278879 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4cbb73171547d9bfe191770777eb1fab8764979c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs1266wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.29.13 with SMTP id c13mr671317huc; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si7157836nfa.2006.05.15.10.24.34; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfglI-0006C6-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:21:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfglI-0006Bx-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:21:40 +0100 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfiHP-00055C-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:58:59 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21735 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfglD-000Mut-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 17:21:35 +0000 Message-ID: <002901c67843$ff9d5200$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <001a01c6777d$448fa600$2201a8c0@pcroelof> <043e01c67799$8ccbb5a0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:21:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.422 Subject: LF: Re: Re: T/A May 14 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5378 Hello Dave, Yes, I will be using a BFR96 solely for being better adapted to SMD mounting. So far I have had no problems in sourcing 2N5109's in the Netherlands. They are still widely available in Europe. Regarding your remarks on the feedline contributing to reception; that gives rise to an interesting question. I have only used non metallic poles with my mini-whips, because they were available and much easier to handle. However, I received a few questions on the use of metalic poles. Someone told me that an active whip will stop working when the coaxial feedline is tied to a metal pole or runs inside. I have performed a few tests on a short ( 4 feet high) metal and fiberglass pole. I have used groundwave signals from DCF39, 138.830 kHz, 575 km and the carrier of NDB ONO-399.5, Oostende, Belgium, 399.500 kHz, 59 km. Test # 1, metal pole, coax cable taped to the pole. DCF 39: -74 dBm ONO-399.5: -79 dBm Test # 2, metal pole, coax cable extended horizontal, 4 feet high DCF 39: -64,5 dBm ONO-399.5: -72 dBm Test # 3, fiberglass pole DCF 39: -55 dBm ONO-399.5: -69 dBm Test # 4, fiberglass pole, shield of the coax cable grounded at the bottom of the mast (copper earth stake, 3 metre long) DCF 39: -51,5 dBm ONO-399.5: -71 dBm Received on a SPM-30 and a 20 dB tuneable pre-amplifier. The differences in signal strength between a conductive and a non-conductive mast are large; at 138.830 kHz 19 dB and at 399.5 kHz 10 dB. Thus, it seems to be good practice to use a non-conductive mast. Test # 4 is interesting. Connecting the shield of the cable at the bottom of the mast, gives a 3.5 dB stronger signal at 138.830 kHz. However, at 399.5 kHz the signal level is 2 dB less. I have not a simple answer for what is going on here. From the bottom of the mast to the house the feedline is 11 metre long. The shield is connected to a groundstake somewhere in between and before entering the house. Inside the house the coaxial cable is 6 metre long. To simplify matters, I will repeat these tests with my battery operated SPM-3 and a short length of coax. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203438430927278879 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f093ea2d1fa8c2dc69bb85575ac48dea0529096f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs23704wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 03:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.16 with SMTP id t16mr3290034nfj; Mon, 15 May 2006 03:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si5551699nfe.2006.05.15.03.18.41; Mon, 15 May 2006 03:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffa7S-0004qY-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:16:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffa7R-0004qO-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:16:05 +0100 Received: from grunt3.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.43]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfbdP-0001d9-Ur for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:53:16 +0100 Received: from 203-173-156-36.bliink.ihug.co.nz (athlon1200) [203.173.156.36] by grunt3.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ffa7I-0000jS-00; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:15:56 +1200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.392 [268.5.6/339]); Mon, 15 May 2006 22:16:14 +1200 Message-ID: <05a501c67808$98d51250$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <001a01c6777d$448fa600$2201a8c0@pcroelof> <043e01c67799$8ccbb5a0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:16:14 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: T/A May 14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=response X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5379 Disregard the comment about signal strength variation with height, Roelof - I must have had a bad night last night! Of course it will vary with height, regardless of feedline issues - silly me! Interested to hear about the BFR96 though. Surprised no one jumped on me about the height thing - you lot must all be asleep - or maybe just waking up!! (except ZL4OL) 73 Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Brown" To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: LF: Re: T/A May 14 > Hi Roelof > Can you be quite sure the feedline is not contributing to your > received signal level? Any variation in strength with height would > be a good indication that it is. > Interesting to note your proposed use of the BFR96- have to say > 2N5109s are not easy to find now. Is the BFR96 used in this instance > from the SMD aspect and is there any performance degradation from > this. > 73 > Dave > ZL3FJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roelof Bakker" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:38 AM > Subject: LF: T/A May 14 > > >> Hello all, >> >> I have designed a new PCB for the mini-whip with SMD parts, except >> for the >> 2N5109. >> The latter will be exchanged for a BFR96 in the near future. sniptherest************ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203531086598602609 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8bfab6ce95ee8d15502115a83be1a3894fbd5fc3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30121wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.19 with SMTP id m19mr3011349nfg; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si766764nfc.2006.05.16.03.54.52; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxAs-0000OM-4V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:53:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfxAr-0000OD-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:53:09 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfyhL-0003wf-0v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:30:51 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 May 2006 10:49:32 -0000 Received: from p54906B10.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.107.16] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 16 May 2006 12:49:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <000401c678d6$db0c7900$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> <00ba01c678d4$0aee5830$0101a8c0@BUERO> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:52:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.914,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: DATONG VLF converter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5392 Die Betriebsspannung ist 12 Volt Der Frequenzbereich von ca 10 Khz mehrere 100 KHz. Wenn Du den Konverter aufmachst, dann sehe nach, welcher Quarz da drin steckt. zB. 28 Mhz D.h am RX entspricht dann 28 000 Khz = Zero beat also "Null " Hz.Den Tr�ger m�sste man schon sehr stark h�ren Stellt man dann 28,138 MHz ein, m��test Du den Datensender Burg h�ren Fragen ? Frage! DK1KQ@darc.de Uwe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johannes Wilke" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: LF: DATONG VLF converter > Greetings all, > > I've found an old DATONG VLF converter without manual. Does somebody know > the supply voltage and frequency range? > > 73 Jo, DK2PH > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203531086598602609 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 36ce51ebf72a69b2f7661a9e44851b3d74983a44 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs30028wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr4336261nfu; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si787189nfb.2006.05.16.03.51.25; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffx79-0000It-PP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:49:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffx79-0000Ik-EI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:49:19 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ffz3b-0002dH-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:54:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 87612 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 10:48:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.101.159 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 10:48:54 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01c678d6$59056ca0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> <00ba01c678d4$0aee5830$0101a8c0@BUERO> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:48:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.988 Subject: LF: Re: DATONG VLF converter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5393 Hi Jo The Datong converter I had had a PP3 9volt battery installed. It was originally intended for listening to BC stations on an amateur rig at 28MHz. I think it is notionally 10kHz to 500kHz ...there is a LP filter in the antenna. There is a circuit diagram on one of my web pages....the direct URL is http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/loscprob.htm#Datong%20VLF%20Converter It does not like to work from a big antenna and may need some attenuation to avoid IMD products. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Johannes Wilke To: RSGB LF Group Sent: 16 May 2006 11:32 Subject: LF: DATONG VLF converter > Greetings all, > > I've found an old DATONG VLF converter without manual. Does somebody know > the supply voltage and frequency range? > > 73 Jo, DK2PH > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204067599888185813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c63e64a93dba0cd70ff9a97fe2942a66d28145ec Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs164053wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 23:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.4 with SMTP id o4mr4474157nfh; Mon, 22 May 2006 23:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si6158351nfe.2006.05.22.23.58.20; Mon, 22 May 2006 23:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FiQkN-0000b6-UB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 07:52:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FiQkN-0000ax-Fq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 07:52:03 +0100 Received: from fep04.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.242]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FiQkI-0007SU-T8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 07:52:03 +0100 Received: from mikes ([222.154.123.81]) by fep04.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060523065144.UHHL19789.fep04.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 18:51:44 +1200 Message-ID: <000a01c67e35$5a3c3720$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <000e01c67d85$e1db3600$0301010a@mikes> <009501c67d86$6d165e70$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001501c67d88$1525c960$0301010a@mikes> <44724343.9030700@telus.net> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 18:51:43 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5397 A screen grab would be interesting thanks Scott. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204067599888185813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0610001c3c3c1d1c7cd00cb5026d05326acbc8f4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs153301wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 16:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.12 with SMTP id d12mr4225768nfg; Mon, 22 May 2006 16:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si5431291nfc.2006.05.22.16.05.58; Mon, 22 May 2006 16:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FiJR7-0008PU-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 00:03:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FiJR5-0008PL-ER for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 00:03:39 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FiJR0-000463-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 00:03:39 +0100 Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060522230332.IKYP29109.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 17:03:32 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 0D7A5HNTD3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 17:03:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44724343.9030700@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:03:31 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <000e01c67d85$e1db3600$0301010a@mikes> <009501c67d86$6d165e70$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001501c67d88$1525c960$0301010a@mikes> In-Reply-To: <001501c67d88$1525c960$0301010a@mikes> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.169,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5398 Hey Guys She's been on like this for over a week now. At first it was much weaker then over a few days they seem to have brought up the power somewhat. Does anyone want a local screen grab? Scott McAlevey wrote: > Hi Peter, > >> What's the betting that if you try to demodulate it, it will switch >> back to > random data just as you get things set up? > > I should have taken the bet. The signal is fairly noisy at the moment > but generally producing long strings of Y's or 6's. > > Mike > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204067599888185813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0edc9e9e2c49c5a4c3a59efbc708d1ad8a566414 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs124857wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.13 with SMTP id n13mr3620497nfi; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si4770896nfb.2006.05.22.03.15.19; Mon, 22 May 2006 03:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi7OG-0006zJ-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:11:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi7OG-0006zA-0V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:11:56 +0100 Received: from fep01.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi7OA-00053j-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:11:55 +0100 Received: from mikes ([222.154.78.14]) by fep01.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060522101124.HCSY9780.fep01.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 22:11:24 +1200 Message-ID: <001501c67d88$1525c960$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <000e01c67d85$e1db3600$0301010a@mikes> <009501c67d86$6d165e70$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:11:24 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.016 Subject: LF: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5399 Hi Peter, >What's the betting that if you try to demodulate it, it will switch back to random data just as you get things set up? I should have taken the bet. The signal is fairly noisy at the moment but generally producing long strings of Y's or 6's. Mike From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204067599888185813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f9b18b3effbe8dc22f02fb19dbd7efda6663ea17 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs123540wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.237.18 with SMTP id k18mr3574460nfh; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si5039075nfc.2006.05.22.02.12.30; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6Pe-0006Hy-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:09:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi6Pd-0006Hp-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:09:17 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi6PZ-0004MW-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:09:17 +0100 Received: from BAY116-W4 ([64.4.38.104]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 22 May 2006 02:09:06 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.92.243.140] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 01:09:06 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2006 09:09:06.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[60FA1AC0:01C67D7F] X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.293,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_912fbbb6-3b36-4d45-9dab-879372370875_" Subject: RE: LF: Californian mode change? 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I have not listened for the Californian Naval rtty station on 135= .95 for a while. I note tonight that they seem to be using a new mode which= appears as five carriers at 25Hz spacing centred on 135.950kHz. The streng= th appears similar to previously.
 
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Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes Upg= rade today=0A= = --_912fbbb6-3b36-4d45-9dab-879372370875_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204067599888185813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fc7de077c9a829202621460c36cdf4faa4f88763 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs123254wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 01:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.68.20 with SMTP id v20mr3563083nfk; Mon, 22 May 2006 01:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si2149142nfc.2006.05.22.01.59.04; Mon, 22 May 2006 01:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi67L-00066l-1x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 09:50:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi67K-00066c-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 09:50:22 +0100 Received: from fep03.xtra.co.nz ([210.54.141.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi67F-0004Co-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 09:50:22 +0100 Received: from mikes ([222.154.78.14]) by fep03.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060522085005.CGCA9802.fep03.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:50:05 +1200 Message-ID: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 20:50:05 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Californian mode change? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C67DE1.4DC15FB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5401 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C67DE1.4DC15FB0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C67DE1.4DC15FB0" ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C67DE1.4DC15FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have not listened for the Californian Naval rtty station on 135.95 for = a while. I note tonight that they seem to be using a new mode which = appears as five carriers at 25Hz spacing centred on 135.950kHz. The = strength appears similar to previously. Mike ZL4OL ------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C67DE1.4DC15FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204823979633323576 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bd9d60e4384481ec6c7b9dc9d50edc0d5983ab11 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8355wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.20 with SMTP id p20mr209nfp; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si5623686nfc.2006.05.30.13.31.11; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlAox-00009f-Aa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:28:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlAow-00009W-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:28:06 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FlAos-0006dk-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:28:06 +0100 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCH3LXEAGJJKP2 for (sender ); Tue, 30 May 2006 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LRM6NME9; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:26:14 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20060530.162529.3712.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-17 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 5:2:3888966470 X-MAIL-INFO:121941e92dd4b40d35648d1195b125edf56d4d31847089 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewEHktk5CJ6O8/6PhQ2adOZMM08fXOqFExw== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.559,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5405 On Tue, 30 May 2006 18:17:58 +0100 "Gary - G4WGT" writes: > Hi Bryan, > > I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will > confirm!!! > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > there's the rub ! I can copy code but I dont know the language HAR Bob K3DJC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204823979633323576 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 286ba76cae82026b85399edb5f91e7f109f6d9a7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs171wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.31.9 with SMTP id e9mr2753503nfe; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q1si5766348uge.2006.05.30.10.21.22; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7rP-0007dw-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:18:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl7rO-0007dn-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:18:26 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fl7rL-0004qN-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:18:26 +0100 Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.141.245]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 30 May 2006 18:17:44 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAACgafESJTyw Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.141.245]:1526 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Fl7lw-0008jw-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:12:48 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <006701c6840a$c791d340$11c428c3@captbrian> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.565,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5406 Hi Bryan, I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will confirm!!! 73 Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: 30 May 2006 18:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. Bryan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203995827530736212 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e7f38092f919e10b90fba1895db669f9523cbdae Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs97887wra; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.18 with SMTP id m18mr2955395nfg; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si3826778nfa.2006.05.21.06.58.17; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FhoPt-00047E-7C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 14:56:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FhoPs-000475-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 14:56:20 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fhpyr-0006qf-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 16:36:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 23013 invoked from network); 21 May 2006 13:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.78.250 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2006 13:56:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c67cde$4ffb6fe0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 14:56:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.975 Subject: LF: Thanks, well done. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5409 One quite often doesn't appreciate an old friend until all of a sudden he isn't there ! Thanks for all the efforts. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202615324501891193 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 473c03d1fd1495e9577066769785e3395b497819 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs28856wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 01:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.24.20 with SMTP id 20mr1525955qbx; Sat, 06 May 2006 01:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si16070qbe.2006.05.06.01.15.45; Sat, 06 May 2006 01:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcHse-0000v3-Em for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 09:11:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcHsd-0000uu-PA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 09:11:11 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcJKA-0005YD-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:43:47 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcHsY-0002QZ-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:11:06 +0200 Received: from www10.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.203]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1FcHsY-0006ja-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:11:06 +0200 Received: from www-data by www10.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.60 1 (Panther_1)) id 1FcHsX-00008R-PR for ; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:11:05 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 84.134.137.64 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 10:11:05 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.267,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: VO1NA late night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=b_01_efcf39f137f94728c97065238df913b6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5420 --b_01_efcf39f137f94728c97065238df913b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">= MessageGreetings all,

Took the opportuni= ty for an "overnight recording session" at DK4U but the receiver's AGC was = deafened by QRN.
Only copied VO1NA around 03:20 (UTC), screenshot is her= e:

http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/t/vo1na_qrss60_20060506.jpg
Will try again tomorrow for WD2*** :-)

Best regards,
  Wol= f DL4YHF / DK4U .
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=0A=0A= --b_01_efcf39f137f94728c97065238df913b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings all,=0A=0ATook the opportunity for an "overnight recording sessio= n" at DK4U but the receiver's AGC was deafened by QRN.=0AOnly copied VO1NA = around 03:20 (UTC), screenshot is here:=0A=0Ahttp://people.freenet.de/dl4yh= f/t/vo1na_qrss60_20060506.jpg=0A=0AWill try again tomorrow for WD2*** :-)= =0A=0ABest regards,=0A Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U .=0A=0A1 Million Singles in Ihre= r Nahe. Finden Sie Ihren Traumpartner=0Abei Deutschlands beliebteste Partne= rboerse:=0Ahttp://singles.freenet.de/index.html?pid=3D11512=0A --b_01_efcf39f137f94728c97065238df913b6-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 705fe45e635efa1d50e22dc23caecf9584979428 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs29791wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.11 with SMTP id h11mr4327474nfi; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si759697nfc.2006.05.16.03.44.53; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffwzv-0000Bq-5W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:41:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffwzu-0000Bh-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:41:50 +0100 Received: from cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.24] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfyWN-0003ox-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:19:31 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556AF3.cable.casema.nl [83.85.106.243]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E56E163 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:41:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060516114055.030b0be0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:44:56 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Dick Rollema In-Reply-To: <004701c67873$67748720$2201a8c0@PC2> References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <6.1.0.6.2.20060515132009.037b1cf0@127.0.0.1> <004701c67873$67748720$2201a8c0@PC2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0620-0, 15-05-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.360,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_6262361==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5421 --=====================_6262361==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jos=E9, I found the following results for DCF39, using the CCIR curves: Sea Water, average salinity, conductivity 5 S/m, dielectric constant 70,=20 EMRP =3D 40 kW. Wet Ground, conductivity 10 mS, dielectric constant 30, EMRP =3D 40 kW Land, conductivity 3 mS, dielectric constant 22, EMRP =3D 108 kW. Medium dry ground, conductivity 1 mS, dielectric constant 15, EMRP =3D 1364= kW. 1 kW EMRP produces 300 mV/m at 1 km distance. At 500 km over perfect (flat) ground 1 kW EMRP would produce 300/500 =3D 0.6= =20 mV/m. I measure 2078 =B5V/m. Over perfect ground this would correspond to (2078/600) squared x 1 kW =3D= 12=20 kW EMRP. So even over almost perfect conducting sea water there is 10log (40/12) =3D= =20 5.2 dB extra path loss. I think this must be refraction loss due to the=20 curvature of the earth. 73, Dick, PA0SE At 01:00 16-5-06, you wrote: >Hello Dick: > > I took a plot, last month, of the transmission of a Spanish colleague,=20 > who is in Madrid, at 500 km as well, and the signal level during the day= =20 > was not stable, varying around 3 or 4 dB; I guess that the D layer=20 > reflection for this range is not low. > >On the other hand, Dick , I think that the mean soil conductivity for your= =20 >path , in my modest opinion, should be lower than 0.01 S/m, taking into=20 >account the conductivity map that can be seen in the Geri=B4s page. > >I agree with you that, for this 500 km range, there is high uncertainty in= =20 >the determination of radiated power. > > >73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dick Rollema >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:11 PM >Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength > >Dear Jose, > >You wrote: >> >>In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW=20 >>EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this=20 >>radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of=20 >>distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I= =20 >>wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the previous= =20 >>theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be exceeded some=20 >>times due to the several propagation factors involved. > >I measure the field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35 dB=B5V= )=20 >, as it is always at daytime. > >The distance between my location and DCF39 is about 500 km. Using the=20 >graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 S/m, dielectric constant 40) in CCIR= =20 >Recommandation 368-7: GROUND-WAVE PROPAGATION CURVES FOR FREQUENCIES=20 >BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find the power of DCF39 to be 39.8 kW. This=20 >should be rounded to 40 kW of course. That this agrees so well with the=20 >40 kW mentioned by Geri is pure coincidence, given the uncertainties= involved. > >73, Dick, PA0SE >JN22GD --=====================_6262361==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jos=E9,

I found the following results for DCF39, using the CCIR=20 curves:

Sea Water, average salinity, conductivity 5 S/m, dielectric constant 70, EMRP =3D 40 kW.

Wet Ground, conductivity 10 mS, dielectric constant 30, EMRP =3D 40 kW

Land, conductivity 3 mS, dielectric constant 22,  EMRP =3D 108 kW.

Medium dry ground,  conductivity 1 mS, dielectric constant 15, EMRP =3D 1364 kW.

1 kW EMRP produces 300 mV/m at 1 km distance.
At 500 km over perfect (flat) ground 1 kW EMRP would produce 300/500 =3D 0.6 mV/m.
I measure 2078 =B5V/m.
Over perfect ground this would correspond to (2078/600) squared x 1 kW =3D 12 kW EMRP.

So even over almost perfect conducting sea water there is 10log (40/12) =3D 5.2 dB  extra path loss. I think this must be refraction loss due to  the curvature of the earth. 

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 01:00 16-5-06, you wrote:
Hello Dick:
 
 I took a plot, last month, of the transmission of a Spanish colleague, who is in Madrid, at 500 km as well, and the signal level during the day was not stable, varying around 3 or 4 dB; I guess that the D layer reflection for this range is not low.
 
On the other hand, Dick , I think that the mean soil conductivity for your path , in my modest opinion, should be lower than 0.01 S/m, taking into account the conductivity map that can be seen in the Geri=B4s page.
 
I agree with you that, for this 500 km range, there is high uncertainty in the determination of radiated power.
 
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Rollema
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength

Dear Jose,

You wrote:

In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen= that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some= years ago. For this radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of= inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60= dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and= if the previous theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be= exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors= involved.

I measure the field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35= dB=B5V) , as it is always  at daytime.

The distance between my  location and DCF39 is about 500 km. Using= the graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 S/m, dielectric constant= 40)  in CCIR Recommandation 368-7: GROUND-WAVE PROPAGATION CURVES FOR= FREQUENCIES BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find the power of DCF39 to be 39.8= kW.  This should be rounded to 40 kW of course.  That this agrees= so well with the 40 kW mentioned by  Geri is pure coincidence, given= the uncertainties involved.

73, Dick, PA0SE
JN22GD
--=====================_6262361==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e06a731a53608143cb0b85d1150733e2f828dc80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs12212wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4029746nfg; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si198274nfc.2006.05.15.16.06.23; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffm47-0007Eh-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 00:01:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffm46-0007EY-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 00:01:26 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ffo0R-0004ay-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:06:02 +0100 Received: from PC2 (81.39.103.142) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 446866B60001A681 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 01:01:08 +0200 Message-ID: <004701c67873$67748720$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <6.1.0.6.2.20060515132009.037b1cf0@127.0.0.1> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 01:00:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_FONT_FACE_CAPS=0.804,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C67884.2A993E20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5422 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C67884.2A993E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dick: I took a plot, last month, of the transmission of a Spanish colleague, = who is in Madrid, at 500 km as well, and the signal level during the day = was not stable, varying around 3 or 4 dB; I guess that the D layer = reflection for this range is not low. On the other hand, Dick , I think that the mean soil conductivity for = your path , in my modest opinion, should be lower than 0.01 S/m, taking = into account the conductivity map that can be seen in the Geri=B4s page. I agree with you that, for this 500 km range, there is high uncertainty = in the determination of radiated power. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dick Rollema=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Dear Jose, You wrote: In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW = EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this = radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of = distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so = I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the = previous theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be = exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors involved. I measure the field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35 = dB=B5V) , as it is always at daytime. The distance between my location and DCF39 is about 500 km. Using the = graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 S/m, dielectric constant 40) in = CCIR Recommandation 368-7: GROUND-WAVE PROPAGATION CURVES FOR = FREQUENCIES BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find the power of DCF39 to be 39.8 = kW. This should be rounded to 40 kW of course. That this agrees so = well with the 40 kW mentioned by Geri is pure coincidence, given the = uncertainties involved. 73, Dick, PA0SE JN22GD ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C67884.2A993E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Dick:
 
 I took a plot, last month, of the = transmission of a Spanish colleague, who is in Madrid, at 500 km as = well, and=20 the signal level during the day was not stable, varying around 3 or 4 = dB; I=20 guess that the D layer reflection for this range is not = low.
 
On the other hand, Dick , I think that = the mean=20 soil conductivity for your path , in my modest opinion, should be lower = than=20 0.01 S/m, taking into account the conductivity map that can be seen in = the=20 Geri=B4s page.
 
I agree with you that, for this 500 km = range, there=20 is high uncertainty in the determination of radiated power.
 
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dick=20 Rollema
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:11 = PM
Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and = field=20 strength

Dear Jose,

You wrote:

In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is = 40KW (22KW=20 EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this = radiater=20 power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, = 58=20 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder = if still=20 DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the previous theorical = field=20 strength, with no reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to = the=20 several propagation factors involved.

I = measure the=20 field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35 dB=B5V) , as it = is=20 always  at daytime.

The distance between my  location = and=20 DCF39 is about 500 km. Using the graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 = S/m,=20 dielectric constant 40)  in CCIR Recommandation 368-7: = GROUND-WAVE=20 PROPAGATION CURVES FOR FREQUENCIES BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find = the power=20 of DCF39 to be 39.8 kW.  This should be rounded to 40 kW of = course. =20 That this agrees so well with the 40 kW mentioned by  Geri is = pure=20 coincidence, given the uncertainties involved.

73, Dick, PA0SE
JN22GD=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C67884.2A993E20-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b414f176518a90557742ca5ed8af714d6ba63681 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs26348wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.221.20 with SMTP id t20mr2062924nfg; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si10743310nfc.2006.05.15.05.20.32; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffbqg-0005CE-Uv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:06:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffbqf-0005C5-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:06:53 +0100 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfdMf-0002Xa-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:44:05 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556AF3.cable.casema.nl [83.85.106.243]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1BA944A for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:06:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060515132009.037b1cf0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:11:34 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Dick Rollema In-Reply-To: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0619-3, 12-05-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.717,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_FONT_FACE_CAPS=0.804,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4743002==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5423 --=====================_4743002==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jose, You wrote: > >In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP),= =20 >based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this radiater power= =20 >corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m);= =20 >last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4= s=20 >power is the same as before, and if the previous theorical field strength,= =20 >with no reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the several=20 >propagation factors involved. I measure the field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35 dB=B5V)= =20 , as it is always at daytime. The distance between my location and DCF39 is about 500 km. Using the=20 graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 S/m, dielectric constant 40) in CCIR=20 Recommandation 368-7: GROUND-WAVE PROPAGATION CURVES FOR FREQUENCIES=20 BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find the power of DCF39 to be 39.8 kW. This=20 should be rounded to 40 kW of course. That this agrees so well with the 40= =20 kW mentioned by Geri is pure coincidence, given the uncertainties = involved. 73, Dick, PA0SE JN22GD=20 --=====================_4743002==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jose,

You wrote:
 
In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the previous theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors involved.

I measure the field strength of DCF39 at 2078 microvolt/metre (66.35 dB=B5V) , as it is always  at daytime.

The distance between my  location and DCF39 is about 500 km. Using the graph for "LAND" (conductivity 0.03 S/m, dielectric constant 40)  in CCIR Recommandation 368-7: GROUND-WAVE PROPAGATION CURVES FOR FREQUENCIES BETWEEN 10 KHz AND MHz I find the power of DCF39 to be 39.8 kW.  This should be rounded to 40 kW of course.  That this agrees so well with the 40 kW mentioned by  Geri is pure coincidence, given the uncertainties involved.

73, Dick, PA0SE
JN22GD --=====================_4743002==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9224939708caf157da19feb4022f896866890772 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8863wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr1565533nfe; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si3040496nfb.2006.05.14.14.58.53; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOaN-00036W-QX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:57:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOaN-00036N-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:57:11 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfQWI-0005xy-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:01:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 34367 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 21:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.39.214 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2006 21:56:48 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c677a1$515c95e0$d6277ad5@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <46a.45f280.3198ef5d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:54:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.917 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5424 Hi Markus and Jose, I have just been looking at the ground wave level at Brian's CT1DRP a little further down the coast. My estimate is based on some concellation fades that occured on Brian's plot on the last couple of days during the evening dip. Deep cancelation means that the ground wave and skywave are almost the same strength. This gives a estimated ground-wave field strength of around 0dBuV/m. there is no doubt that the majority of the signals at that range,1960km, is daytime skywave. I think it is probably 2 hop from an altitude of about 50km (which gives 1000km per hop, by simple geometry.....its not that simple of course!). These cancellations are only seen in day-time in quiet conditions. Brian's day-time levels at more active times of when the X-ray flux is higher are some 10dB higher than at present. The above estimate stacks reasonably well with Reg Edwards G4FGQ's GROUNDWAVE4 program (I think it is actually GRNDWAV4) using a poor ground option.(10) I would think Jose's received field strength should be similar to Brian's. He has a water path across Biscay but I have a feeling this may not matter too much. He is not placed to get the benefit of incomming "focussing." At night the signal could be single hop or even enhancement due to additive effects between in-phase modes or paths. I have seen 6dBs often and an occasional 10dB over the Atlantic at a favourable time. There is some controversy about how propagation at 136 should be modelled but I find a simple explanation can be derived from a "hop" model. I think from memory Brian's path suggests that there is on average a excess 12dB attenuation over the equivalent free-space loss Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 14 May 2006 21:38 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Hi Jos�, though it is not explicitely mentioned in the caption beneath Geri's and Gamal's curve, I think their data actually mean a power of 40 kW EMRP (i.e. 125.6 dB�V/m at 1 km). Here at 310 km, I see 70 dB�V/m with about 6 dB groundwave absorption. Despite this slightly higher EMRP, your measurement would still imply basically lossless low-angle skywave propagation. 73 de Markus, DF6NM In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 13:00:23 Westeurop�ische Sommerzeit schreibt jpradoes@telefonica.net: > Hello all > > In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP), > based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this radiater power > corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last > nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39�s power is > the same as before, and if the previous theorical field strength, with no > reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the several propagation > factors involved. > > 73 de Jos�, EA1PX > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 39336ebdaf63f66a76fcfc3c248cc9fdda96675e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8744wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.11 with SMTP id v11mr1430120nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si9947395nfc.2006.05.14.14.55.00; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOWD-00031K-PL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:52:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOWD-00031B-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:52:53 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfQS8-0005td-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:57:05 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.2fc.523863f (30739) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2fc.523863f.3199009b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:52:27 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.008,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2fc.523863f.3199009b_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5425 --part1_2fc.523863f.3199009b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jos=E9, yes. During daylight hours, the level is fairly constant, but at night it=20 fades up and down by perhaps 3 dB, sometimes more. Though that's just from=20 memory, as it's been a while since I last did these measurements. 73 de Markus, DF6NM=20 In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 23:35:59 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= =20 jpradoes@telefonica.net:=20 > Do you see any signal level variation in a 24 h period? >=20 --part1_2fc.523863f.3199009b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jos=E9,

yes. During daylight hours, the level is fairly constant, but at night it fa= des up and down by perhaps 3 dB, sometimes more. Though that's just from mem= ory, as it's been a while since I last did these measurements.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 23:35:59 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= jpradoes@telefonica.net:

Do you see any signal level var= iation in a 24 h period?


 --part1_2fc.523863f.3199009b_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4c8a7a3784f2b11a44b9b2173855af24b45f0628 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8212wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.17 with SMTP id f17mr2882371nfe; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si2562363nfc.2006.05.14.14.37.59; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOEm-0002uM-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:34:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOEm-0002uD-34 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:34:52 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfPkT-0003zU-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:11:46 +0100 Received: from PC2 (81.39.102.65) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 4464D86500021409 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 23:31:37 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c6779d$bd2d20e0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <46a.45f280.3198ef5d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:31:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C677AE.8058DCC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5426 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C677AE.8058DCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus: Do you see any signal level variation in a 24 h period? About the radiated power, I=B4ll take into account the correction, = thanks. 73, Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MarkusVester@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Hi Jos=E9, though it is not explicitely mentioned in the caption beneath Geri's = and Gamal's curve, I think their data actually mean a power of 40 kW = EMRP (i.e. 125.6 dB=B5V/m at 1 km). Here at 310 km, I see 70 dB=B5V/m = with about 6 dB groundwave absorption. Despite this slightly higher EMRP, your measurement would still imply = basically lossless low-angle skywave propagation. 73 de Markus, DF6NM In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 13:00:23 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit = schreibt jpradoes@telefonica.net:=20 Hello all =20 In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW = EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this = radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of = distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so = I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the = previous theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be = exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors involved. =20 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C677AE.8058DCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus:
 
Do you see any signal level variation = in a 24 h=20 period?
 
About the radiated power, I=B4ll take = into account=20 the correction, thanks.
 
 
73, Jos=E9, EA1PX
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 MarkusVester@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 = 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and = field=20 strength

Hi Jos=E9,

though it is not = explicitely=20 mentioned in the caption beneath Geri's and Gamal's curve, I think = their data=20 actually mean a power of 40 kW EMRP (i.e. 125.6 dB=B5V/m at 1 km). = Here at 310=20 km, I see 70 dB=B5V/m with about 6 dB groundwave = absorption.

Despite this=20 slightly higher EMRP, your measurement would still imply basically = lossless=20 low-angle skywave propagation.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In = einer=20 eMail vom 14.05.2006 13:00:23 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt=20 jpradoes@telefonica.net:

Hello all
 
In the web of = Geri, DK8KW, can=20 be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP), based on measurements = made by=20 Geri some years ago. For this radiater power corresponds, at 1800 = Km, in=20 function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made = measurement=20 of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as = before,=20 and if the previous theorical field strength, with no reflection = loss, can=20 be exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors=20 involved.
 
73 de Jos=E9, = EA1PX


 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C677AE.8058DCC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 41e51e7ea8e9ea1c77b1fe8a49d01cb3d765427a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs7021wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.9 with SMTP id n9mr2851331nfi; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2521273nfa.2006.05.14.13.41.04; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNMo-0002T1-Tg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:39:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNMo-0002Ss-B1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:39:06 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfOsV-0003Yq-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 23:15:59 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.46a.45f280 (30739) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:38:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <46a.45f280.3198ef5d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 16:38:53 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.111,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_46a.45f280.3198ef5d_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5427 --part1_46a.45f280.3198ef5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jos=E9, though it is not explicitely mentioned in the caption beneath Geri's and=20 Gamal's curve, I think their data actually mean a power of 40 kW EMRP (i.e.=20= 125.6=20 dB=B5V/m at 1 km). Here at 310 km, I see 70 dB=B5V/m with about 6 dB groundw= ave=20 absorption. Despite this slightly higher EMRP, your measurement would still imply=20 basically lossless low-angle skywave propagation. 73 de Markus, DF6NM In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 13:00:23 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= =20 jpradoes@telefonica.net:=20 > Hello all > =20 > In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP),= =20 > based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this radiater power= =20 > corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m);=20= last=20 > nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4s po= wer is=20 > the same as before, and if the previous theorical field strength, with no=20 > reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the several propagation= =20 > factors involved. > =20 > 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX >=20 --part1_46a.45f280.3198ef5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jos=E9,

though it is not explicitely mentioned in the caption beneath Geri's and Gam= al's curve, I think their data actually mean a power of 40 kW EMRP (i.e. 125= .6 dB=B5V/m at 1 km). Here at 310 km, I see 70 dB=B5V/m with about 6 dB grou= ndwave absorption.

Despite this slightly higher EMRP, your measurement would still imply basica= lly lossless low-angle skywave propagation.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 14.05.2006 13:00:23 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt= jpradoes@telefonica.net:

Hello all
 
In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP),=20= based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this radiater power c= orresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of distance, 58 dB(uV/m); las= t nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder if still DCF39=B4s po= wer is the same as before, and if the previous theorical field strength, wit= h no reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the several propagat= ion factors involved.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX


 --part1_46a.45f280.3198ef5d_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203350633376413987 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a16018e134bf50af3c1d3cd5484db652717731d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20751wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.222.11 with SMTP id u11mr1182768nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si4217309nfb.2006.05.14.04.03.12; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfEJc-0000pi-73 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:59:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfEJb-0000pZ-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:59:11 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfFp6-00008P-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:35:52 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.36.171.6) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 4464EAC60001A0AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:55:57 +0200 Message-ID: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:55:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DCF39 ERP and field strength Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C67755.B3B44860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5428 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C67755.B3B44860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen that DCF39 ERP is 40KW (22KW = EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years ago. For this = radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of = distance, 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so = I wonder if still DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the = previous theorical field strength, with no reflection loss, can be = exceeded some times due to the several propagation factors involved. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C67755.B3B44860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all
 
In the web of Geri, DK8KW, can be seen = that DCF39=20 ERP is 40KW (22KW EMRP), based on measurements made by Geri some years = ago. For=20 this radiater power corresponds, at 1800 Km, in function of inverse of = distance,=20 58 dB(uV/m); last nigth I made measurement of 60 dB(uV/m), so I wonder = if still=20 DCF39=B4s power is the same as before, and if the previous theorical = field=20 strength, with no reflection loss, can be exceeded some times due to the = several=20 propagation factors involved.
 
73 de Jos=E9, = EA1PX
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esmtp id 1FdU0i-1DoY1Q0; Tue, 9 May 2006 17:20:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 17:20:25 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <967321886.20060509172025@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bVAhFuZfYe60udmsn+HRDLnUMHTp5hw11pqgeJAglB-fjcgIC3oBk6 X-TOI-MSGID: 5bfe43db-4e0e-4d82-8f95-71269919d552 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.891 Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5431 No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. >From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 and then one in QRSS30. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203257467827673045 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c3e18c70a259a20a8fc92469786d54d68cfc02e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs64239wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.15 with SMTP id n15mr464094nfj; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si746809nfa.2006.05.13.03.22.21; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FerA2-0005Bf-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:15:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FerA1-0005BW-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:15:45 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fesf1-0005sA-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 12:51:55 +0100 Received: from 88-106-252-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.252.50]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2006 11:15:29 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAADhOZUSIfyw Received: from 88-106-252-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.252.50]:1480 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Fer5Q-000PN1-2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:11:00 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:15:59 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.951,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: NA 13th Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6767E.9C8D2350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5432 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6767E.9C8D2350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe & LF, This is my only capture taken at 0400z, no further captures due to a short power cut in the early hours, computer waiting for "Log On" when I came in the shack. Also just after 0300z part of a character at about 137779.8Hz from one of the other TA signals. We seem to get more than our fair share of cuts & residents have been complaining for a couple of years or more but it gets no better. 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0ML21M-1FcgwN2FFM-0003lZ; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:56:44 +0200 Message-ID: <00c301c671c4$ed208d20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 12:56:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DI2BO now on 440.040 kHz -- update May 7, 2996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5433 Hello Jean-Pierre and all others interested in MF-reception, first of all thanks very much for everyone who has send a reception report so far. Up to now I received reports from all over Europe (PA, F, DL, OZ, G, I, SV, SV8?, EA). The current ERP is around 5 Watt, probably a little bit less, I need to confirm this by a measurement later. It might be interesting if you could check the signal strength in relation to a few NDBs nearby my qth, I plan to do some field measurment to confirm their ERP. Braunschweig, BRU, 427 kHz Celle, CEL, 311 kHz Hannover, HA, 320 kHz Wunstorf, WUN, 419 kHz Hannover, HW, 358 kHz Hannover, HAE, 332 kHz B�ckeburg, BYC, 368 kHz I plan to have a special QSL printed to confirm all receptions of DI2BO. Currently DI2BO is transmitting on 440.040 kHz. This frequency has been coordinated with Walter, DJ2LF / DI2AG to allow to observe and compare both beacons (DI2AG on 440.044 kHz) once we do simultaneous transmissions in QRSS. At the moment the CW speed is around 10 wpm, I am using an old mechanical CW generator that once was used to key an NDB (there is a sticker on it saying "Property of the German Authority for Flight Safety"). Later I will switch to an electronic keyer once I have programmed it but I will maintain the speed as it is for the tme being (QRSS is planned later). I plan to update station details and transmitting schedule on http://www.qru.de/di2bo.html as well as here on the reflector. The beacon will run full power today and next night, tomorrow morning I plan to switch to QRP which is about 12 dB less than what I am running currently. I will switch to high power during evenings and night. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Godet" To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) > > On Sat, 6 May 2006, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: > > > ... > > I will coordinate the test transmissions with Walter so that both > > beacons can be operated at the same time. To fine tune and tweak the > > station currently DI2BO is operating exactly on 440 kHz in plain CW. > > ... > > Hello Geri and all ! > > Geri, could you please confirm us the frequency, and, appoximately, the > speed of the CW, and, if possible, the schedule of the next test > transmissions. > Returning home only this morning, I tried at once, in a hurry, around > 440 kHz, and there was something on 440,001.9 Hz (but with no time to > check the calibration, I am not sure) that stopped just before 0640 UTC. > As the aerial was untuned, this signal was not too strong. I shall try > this evening and next night with the 160m half-wave end-fed tuned and > matched on 440 kHz. > > Best 73, thank you for this new beacon ! > > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202620004953948775 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3ac0f0aa7426b2ad2faafeeaf6ad3835d2f66c35 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs56310wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 02:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.5 with SMTP id o5mr352638nfg; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si905440nfe.2006.05.07.02.50.14; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcfsq-0007XG-PV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 10:49:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcfsq-0007X7-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 10:49:00 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fchlz-0000rt-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:50:18 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DCDBD1FFFD36 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 11:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-88.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-88.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.88]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0BB1F1FFFD35 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 11:48:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060507094839480.0BB1F1FFFD35@mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 11:48:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Message-ID: References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.595 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5434 On Sat, 6 May 2006, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: > ... > I will coordinate the test transmissions with Walter so that both > beacons can be operated at the same time. To fine tune and tweak the > station currently DI2BO is operating exactly on 440 kHz in plain CW. > ... Hello Geri and all ! Geri, could you please confirm us the frequency, and, appoximately, the speed of the CW, and, if possible, the schedule of the next test transmissions. Returning home only this morning, I tried at once, in a hurry, around 440 kHz, and there was something on 440,001.9 Hz (but with no time to check the calibration, I am not sure) that stopped just before 0640 UTC. As the aerial was untuned, this signal was not too strong. I shall try this evening and next night with the 160m half-wave end-fed tuned and matched on 440 kHz. Best 73, thank you for this new beacon ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202620004953948775 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ce68376da9a1b32f201cd8950c2853b6bda59d4e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs46133wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 15:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.249.12 with SMTP id w12mr65388nfh; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si406614nfb.2006.05.06.15.27.28; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVDb-0003Qg-Od for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:25:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVDb-0003QX-BG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:25:43 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcX6X-00075E-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:26:50 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.42f.1e1564 (3866) for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 18:25:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <42f.1e1564.318e7c4b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:25:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.077,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_42f.1e1564.318e7c4b_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_COMMENT_8BITS, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5435 --part1_42f.1e1564.318e7c4b_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_42f.1e1564.318e7c4b_rel_boundary" --part1_42f.1e1564.318e7c4b_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="42f.1e1564_alt_bound" --42f.1e1564_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Geri, very pleased to report a nice signal from DI2BO on 440kHz, about 569 with some QSB on a SPM-3 selective level meter and a low piece of wire - see screenshot from 22:00 UT: 73 de Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK --42f.1e1564_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Geri,

very pleased to report a nice signal from DI2BO on 440kHz, about 569 with so= me QSB on a SPM-3 selective level meter and a low piece of wire - see screen= shot from 22:00 UT:



73 de Markus,
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May 2006 19:21:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060506172110334.082561C00095@mwinf1208.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200605061920420345.31872B45@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <20060506185605.vpac728okngo8osw@webmail.versatel.de> References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <20060506185605.vpac728okngo8osw@webmail.versatel.de> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 19:20:42 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.557 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 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There is an S5 noise level. When I= have found which domestic appliance is causing the problem I will try= again. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 06/05/2006 at 18:56 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: >> >> Reception reports are welcome! Please send those to mf@qru.de or via >DK8KW. >> >> Best 73 >> >> Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO >> >> > >Hi Geri, >RST 599 without any QRM in JO43SV rcvd with the LF vertical into the= FT1000 >without any preamps. >Best regards >Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202620004953948775 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b96744dad117e5f2053915122a0b3771b11eccfb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs39051wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.16 with SMTP id m16mr303723qbo; Sat, 06 May 2006 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q17si530741qbq.2006.05.06.09.59.19; Sat, 06 May 2006 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcQ5i-0002Hz-HR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:57:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcQ5i-0002Hq-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:57:14 +0100 Received: from mxout02.versatel.de ([212.7.152.119]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcRXQ-0008CF-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 19:30:00 +0100 Received: from mx02.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k46Gu5KY012830 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 18:56:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx02.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k46Gu5hh002820 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 18:56:05 +0200 Received: from i577a72b5.versanet.de (i577a72b5.versanet.de [87.122.114.181]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 6 May 2006 18:56:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20060506185605.vpac728okngo8osw@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:56:05 +0200 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> In-Reply-To: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.004,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5437 > > Reception reports are welcome! Please send those to mf@qru.de or via DK8KW. > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO > > Hi Geri, RST 599 without any QRM in JO43SV rcvd with the LF vertical into the FT1000 without any preamps. Best regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202620004953948775 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f6e8b75ea6c3da9cb5c98aab87bdf87ae2cde224 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs31902wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 04:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.219.8 with SMTP id w8mr74472qbq; Sat, 06 May 2006 04:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si261582qba.2006.05.06.04.40.12; Sat, 06 May 2006 04:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcL6C-0001Sp-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 12:37:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcL6B-0001Sg-Dx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 12:37:23 +0100 Received: from albinoni.earthlight.co.nz ([202.36.170.4]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcMXm-00068g-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 14:10:03 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=earthlight.co.nz) by albinoni.earthlight.co.nz with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FcL5y-0006fu-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:37:13 +1200 Received: from 202.36.170.82 (SquirrelMail authenticated user andrewss) by albinoni.earthlight.co.nz with HTTP; Sat, 6 May 2006 23:37:10 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <1041.202.36.170.82.1146915430.squirrel@albinoni.earthlight.co.nz> Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 23:37:10 +1200 (NZST) From: To: In-Reply-To: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5438 > Hello LF-group, > > as Walter already told in his e-mail the German authorities have > permitted a second experimental station to conduct propagation studies > on medium wave. The station with the callsign DI2BO operates under the > same technical conditions as DI2AG (440 kHz plus/minus 100 Hz, 9 W > ERP). The QTH of this station is in Peine near Hannover in Northern > Germany (JO52BH) with me, DK8KW being responsible. > > I will coordinate the test transmissions with Walter so that both > beacons can be operated at the same time. To fine tune and tweak the > station currently DI2BO is operating exactly on 440 kHz in plain CW. > > The station consists of a ship radio transmitter DEBEG 7121 with around > 100 Watt output which puts about 2.3 Ampere into my 18 m high umbrella > antenna with 5 top load radials. Theoretical this results in an ERP of > around 5 Watt. > > Reception reports are welcome! Please send those to mf@qru.de or via > DK8KW. > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202620004953948775 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9a05e88f76771100658edb82c159597505326444 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs29982wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 02:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr43934qbf; Sat, 06 May 2006 02:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e11si63710qbc.2006.05.06.02.30.09; Sat, 06 May 2006 02:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcJ5A-0001C7-Mz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:28:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcJ5A-0001By-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:28:12 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcKxv-00012X-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 12:29:06 +0100 Received: from [217.251.227.216] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2Dk-1FcJ4u0ku8-0000dy; Sat, 06 May 2006 11:27:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 11:27:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 Disposition-Notification-To: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO on the air (440 kHz) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67100.1DF8EF70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5439 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67100.1DF8EF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF-group, as Walter already told in his e-mail the German authorities have = permitted a second experimental station to conduct propagation studies = on medium wave. The station with the callsign DI2BO operates under the = same technical conditions as DI2AG (440 kHz plus/minus 100 Hz, 9 W ERP). = The QTH of this station is in Peine near Hannover in Northern Germany = (JO52BH) with me, DK8KW being responsible.=20 I will coordinate the test transmissions with Walter so that both = beacons can be operated at the same time. To fine tune and tweak the = station currently DI2BO is operating exactly on 440 kHz in plain CW. The station consists of a ship radio transmitter DEBEG 7121 with around = 100 Watt output which puts about 2.3 Ampere into my 18 m high umbrella = antenna with 5 top load radials. Theoretical this results in an ERP of = around 5 Watt.=20 Reception reports are welcome! Please send those to mf@qru.de or via = DK8KW. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67100.1DF8EF70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF-group,
 
as Walter already told in his e-mail = the German=20 authorities have permitted a second experimental station to conduct = propagation=20 studies on medium wave. The station with the callsign DI2BO operates = under the=20 same technical conditions as DI2AG (440 kHz plus/minus 100 Hz, 9 W ERP). = The QTH=20 of this station is in Peine near Hannover in Northern Germany = (JO52BH) with=20 me, DK8KW being responsible. 
 
I will coordinate the test = transmissions with=20 Walter so that both beacons can be operated at the same time. To fine = tune and=20 tweak the station currently DI2BO is operating exactly on 440 kHz in = plain=20 CW.
 
The station consists of a ship radio = transmitter=20 DEBEG 7121 with around 100 Watt output which puts about 2.3 Ampere into = my 18 m=20 high umbrella antenna with 5 top load radials. Theoretical this results = in an=20 ERP of around 5 Watt.
 
Reception reports are welcome! Please = send those to=20 mf@qru.de or via DK8KW.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67100.1DF8EF70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203535960632154963 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b5a72fd152c55d1b0d0aff65d0b401384cb32e19 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs32001wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.19 with SMTP id m19mr3072957nfg; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si844466nfc.2006.05.16.05.08.53; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfyJq-0000x8-EF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:06:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfyJq-0000wz-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:06:30 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg0GN-0003XS-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:11:18 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-210.fen-net.de [212.204.117.90]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k4GC02M1028041 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:00:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <004e01c678e1$ea680c60$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:11:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id k4GC02M1028041 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.077 Subject: LF: Re: W&G SPM11 schematic Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5440 Dear Christer, pse look for "Rainer F=F6rtig" in Google. The company offers meas= uring equipment, service manuals etc. I got the manual for my SPM3 from him. 73 Walter DJ2LF -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Christer Andersson An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 12:53 Betreff: LF: W&G SPM11 schematic >Does anyone know where to find a W&G SPM11 schematic diagram, or even >better, a service manual? > >Christer >SM6PXJ > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202152926707564328 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 74c51258d0616f7d666e44ec8bf43308510271b6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20907wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 01:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.33.14 with SMTP id l14mr1645364nfj; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si966613nfa.2006.05.01.01.06.32; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTOh-0006Uv-6D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:04:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTOg-0006Um-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:04:46 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaVFY-0000vW-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:03:43 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.3af.22ee582 (16087) for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 04:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-D28 (fwm-d28.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.4]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID104-3ed74455c026378; Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:46 -0400 Message-Id: <8C83B0C7CA6BCB3-E68-DB0@FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com> From: markusvester@aol.com References: <1994785718.20060430170126@t-online.de> Received: from 172.180.109.50 by FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.4) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 01 May 2006 04:00:46 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL eMail 17385 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.4 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.908,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: XES, XGJ and XNS last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MailBlocks_8C83B0C7CA1F7F9_E68_E90_FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5441 ----------MailBlocks_8C83B0C7CA1F7F9_E68_E90_FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 shorter nights now, but still good signals: XGJ, XES and XNS all visible her= e as well, between about 2 and 4 UT. =20 73 de Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK =20 =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Jean-Pierre Godet An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Verschickt: Mo, 1 Mai 2006 07:42:15 +0200 (CEST) Thema: LF: XES, XGJ and XNS last night XGJ abt 0100 - 0300z 137,779.8 ;=20 traces of XES about one hour around 0315z 137,779 dfcw ;=20 traces of XNS about one hour around 0300z 137,781.=20 73 ! F5YG=20 =20 ----------MailBlocks_8C83B0C7CA1F7F9_E68_E90_FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
shorter nights now, but still good signals: XGJ= , XES and XNS all visible here as well, between about 2 and 4 UT.
 
73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK
 
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Jean-Pierre=20= Godet <godetj@wanadoo.fr>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Versc= hickt: Mo, 1 Mai 2006 07:42:15 +0200 (CEST)
Thema: LF: XES, XGJ and XNS l= ast night

XGJ abt 0100 - 0300z 137,779.8 ; 
traces of XES about one h= our around 0315z 137,779 dfcw ; 
traces of XNS about one hour around= 0300z 137,781. 
73 ! F5YG 
 
----------MailBlocks_8C83B0C7CA1F7F9_E68_E90_FWM-D28.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202152926707564328 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3e7f7b75f729345ea212c8d6f9b41fe21437f406 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs19365wra; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.8 with SMTP id a8mr354390nfg; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si888265nfc.2006.04.30.22.46.10; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaRC8-0005xs-EK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 06:43:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaRC7-0005xj-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 06:43:39 +0100 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaT2x-0000BG-CR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:42:34 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F297A700008F for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 07:42:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-22.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-22.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.22]) by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 46F79700008D for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 07:42:21 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060501054221290.46F79700008D@mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 07:42:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1994785718.20060430170126@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <1994785718.20060430170126@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.618 Subject: LF: XES, XGJ and XNS last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5442 XGJ abt 0100 - 0300z 137,779.8 ; traces of XES about one hour around 0315z 137,779 dfcw ; traces of XNS about one hour around 0300z 137,781. 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203418802111356202 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7b3397f0b3d0c7a496cbdd944c4c171f0a8bbae2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs17007wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.16 with SMTP id t16mr3101050nfj; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si3952502nfc.2006.05.14.22.07.09; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEI-0003qO-So for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:02:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEI-0003qF-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:02:50 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfWkA-00077H-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:39:54 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.40] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1FfVEC3UeA-0001xJ; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:02:45 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c677dc$cd4ca2e0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:02:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.021,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO with low power QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C677ED.905E2000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5444 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C677ED.905E2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, first of all thanks to everyone who has reported the reception of DI2BO = until now. I will post some information about who has heard or seen = DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard almost throughout = Western Europe. During daylight hours today DI2BO will transmit QRSS3 with low power = (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG from near Nuernberg = was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few screenshots = showing both beacon transmissions.=20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C677ED.905E2000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
first of all thanks to everyone who has = reported=20 the reception of DI2BO until now. I will post some information about who = has=20 heard or seen DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard = almost=20 throughout Western Europe.
 
During daylight hours today DI2BO will = transmit=20 QRSS3 with low power (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG = from near=20 Nuernberg was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few = screenshots=20 showing both beacon transmissions.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C677ED.905E2000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203418802111356202 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d5e2c5c570eda59bb6799240efe619605df1bd03 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs17002wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.6 with SMTP id s6mr3103078nfj; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si3429953nfe.2006.05.14.22.06.56; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEb-0003qo-HP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:03:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEb-0003qf-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:03:09 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfWkS-00077a-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:40:12 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.40] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2ov-1FfVEW0T8P-0003OR; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:03:04 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c677dc$d8d424d0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:03:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.015,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO with low power QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C677ED.9BC6CF50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5445 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C677ED.9BC6CF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, first of all thanks to everyone who has reported the reception of DI2BO = until now. I will post some information about who has heard or seen = DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard almost throughout = Western Europe. During daylight hours today DI2BO will transmit QRSS3 with low power = (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG from near Nuernberg = was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few screenshots = showing both beacon transmissions.=20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C677ED.9BC6CF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
first of all thanks to everyone who has = reported=20 the reception of DI2BO until now. I will post some information about who = has=20 heard or seen DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard = almost=20 throughout Western Europe.
 
During daylight hours today DI2BO will = transmit=20 QRSS3 with low power (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG = from near=20 Nuernberg was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few = screenshots=20 showing both beacon transmissions.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C677ED.9BC6CF50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203418802111356202 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5702137717ea88de3dc707bdcbc4d4717828a12c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs16996wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr3106287nfu; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si10302694nfe.2006.05.14.22.06.42; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEZ-0003qb-VD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:03:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVEZ-0003qS-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:03:07 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfXAd-0001LC-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:07:26 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.40] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1FfVEJ425W-0001ov; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c677dc$d184a740$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:02:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.031,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO with low power QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C677ED.94B78F10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5446 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C677ED.94B78F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, first of all thanks to everyone who has reported the reception of DI2BO = until now. I will post some information about who has heard or seen = DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard almost throughout = Western Europe. During daylight hours today DI2BO will transmit QRSS3 with low power = (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG from near Nuernberg = was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few screenshots = showing both beacon transmissions.=20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C677ED.94B78F10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
first of all thanks to everyone who has = reported=20 the reception of DI2BO until now. I will post some information about who = has=20 heard or seen DI2BO so far soon. The beacon has been seen or heard = almost=20 throughout Western Europe.
 
During daylight hours today DI2BO will = transmit=20 QRSS3 with low power (around 100 mW ERP or less) on 440.040 kHz. DI2AG = from near=20 Nuernberg was active yesterday on 440.044 kHz and I received a few = screenshots=20 showing both beacon transmissions.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C677ED.94B78F10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202391613690552476 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b18428af5cf3f114d004754eb5de028fdb38f278 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs16457wra; Fri, 5 May 2006 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.2 with SMTP id o2mr65294nfh; Fri, 05 May 2006 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2631204nfc.2006.05.05.12.05.55; Fri, 05 May 2006 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fc5ZH-0008HL-Ps for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 20:02:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fc5ZH-0008HC-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 20:02:23 +0100 Received: from mailserver2.webhot2.dk ([83.221.140.45] helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fc7Rn-0004SJ-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 22:03:03 +0100 Received: from CPHL0010 [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A1230158; Fri, 05 May 2006 21:01:55 +0200 From: "OZ7QC" To: Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 21:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: <006201c67076$60815ba0$0200a8c0@eu.hasbro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcZvZHUubNKireN3SdKbJTp2we3QbQBEUYEg In-Reply-To: <200605041217120754.25B6BB0F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.038,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: Off topic Marconi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5448 Thanks Nigel and John, I will try to search around maybe some from MARCONI will now, I forgot to tell that the filter is placed in the TX driver board But space is left over for the LSB filter. Thanks again and Vy 73 Ingolf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John RABSON Sent: 4. maj 2006 12:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Off topic Marconi You also try the G-QRP Club. They do 1.4MHz filters. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 04/05/2006 at 00:36 GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 03/05/2006 21:56:19 GMT Daylight Time, oz7qc@schaui.dk > >writes: > >Sorry for this, but do any one have or now where to get >E-prom/software and a 1.4 MHz LSB filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400 >The Crystal filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-30 from Cathodeon >England > > >Can't help with these specific items but 1.4MHz filters for other sets >sometimes appear on Ebay, and are generally quite a bit cheaper than 455 >KHz >equivalents. >Examples to watch out for are the Redifon 551, Racal 1772 series, some >other >Marconis, etc. >They may not be an exact fit, perhaps not quite the same bandwidth >either, >but might save waiting a long time for just the right item to come along. > >regards > >Nigel >G8PZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202391613690552476 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 68f4360089d2ee6916897c62ae715bf3af268e39 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs18941wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 03:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.3 with SMTP id m3mr402645nfe; Thu, 04 May 2006 03:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2218518nfa.2006.05.04.03.21.19; Thu, 04 May 2006 03:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fbau7-00054E-HW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 11:17:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fbau7-000545-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 11:17:51 +0100 Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.26]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbcKi-00016s-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 12:49:28 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1C9171C00214 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:17:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-3-96.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.232.96]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4FE101C00227 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:17:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060504101740327.4FE101C00227@mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200605041217120754.25B6BB0F@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <252.a79730b.318adedd@aol.com> References: <252.a79730b.318adedd@aol.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 12:17:12 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.944 Subject: Re: LF: Off topic Marconi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5449 You also try the G-QRP Club. They do 1.4MHz filters. 73 John F5VLF/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 04/05/2006 at 00:36 GandalfG8@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 03/05/2006 21:56:19 GMT Daylight Time, oz7qc@schaui.dk > >writes: > >Sorry for this, but do any one have or now where to get >E-prom/software and a 1.4 MHz LSB filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400 >The Crystal filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-30 from Cathodeon >England > > >Can't help with these specific items but 1.4MHz filters for other sets >sometimes appear on Ebay, and are generally quite a bit cheaper than 455 >KHz >equivalents. >Examples to watch out for are the Redifon 551, Racal 1772 series, some >other >Marconis, etc. >They may not be an exact fit, perhaps not quite the same bandwidth >either, >but might save waiting a long time for just the right item to come along. > >regards > >Nigel >G8PZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202391613690552476 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2bf90a8032b6c80236e22700d7cc5727b49790bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs12877wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 21:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.9 with SMTP id 9mr333165nfn; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si4288254nfc.2006.05.03.21.39.17; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbVaI-0004I7-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 05:37:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbVaH-0004Hy-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 05:37:01 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3] helo=imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbX0l-0008Q8-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:08:32 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.252.a79730b (58677) for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 00:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: <252.a79730b.318adedd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 00:36:45 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.050,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_NONELEMENT_20_30=0.07,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Off topic Marconi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1146717405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5450 -------------------------------1146717405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/05/2006 21:56:19 GMT Daylight Time, oz7qc@schaui.dk writes: Sorry for this, but do any one have or now where to get E-prom/software and a 1.4 MHz LSB filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400 The Crystal filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-30 from Cathodeon England Can't help with these specific items but 1.4MHz filters for other sets sometimes appear on Ebay, and are generally quite a bit cheaper than 455 KHz equivalents. Examples to watch out for are the Redifon 551, Racal 1772 series, some other Marconis, etc. They may not be an exact fit, perhaps not quite the same bandwidth either, but might save waiting a long time for just the right item to come along. regards Nigel G8PZR -------------------------------1146717405 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sorry for this, but do any o= ne=20 have or now where to get

E-prom/software and a 1.4 MH= z LSB=20 filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400

The Crystal filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-3= 0 from=20 Cathodeon England

Can't help with these specific items but 1.4MHz filters for other sets=20 sometimes appear on Ebay, and are generally quite a bit cheaper than 455 KHz= =20 equivalents.
Examples to watch out for are the Redifon 551, Racal 1772 series,=20= some=20 other Marconis, etc.
They may not be an exact fit, perhaps not quite the same bandwidth= =20 either, but might save waiting a long time for just the right item to come=20 along.
 
regards
 
Nigel
G8PZR
 -------------------------------1146717405-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202391613690552476 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fbf6d157767c761bafc033f99f32fe01bc30cb46 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs2889wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.4 with SMTP id n4mr99455nfj; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si318648nfa.2006.05.03.13.59.58; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbON3-0003Cy-4w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:54:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbON2-0003Cp-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:54:52 +0100 Received: from mailserver2.webhot2.dk ([83.221.140.45] helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbQEq-0001S9-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 23:54:48 +0100 Received: from CPHL0010 [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A88001C4; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:54:24 +0200 From: "OZ7QC" To: Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 22:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c66ef3$c26c8d00$0200a8c0@eu.hasbro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcZu88GrJ4rcqiMaTjON/0zW2YDJ7w== X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.252,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_NONELEMENT_20_30=0.07 Subject: LF: Off topic Marconi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C66F04.85F55D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5451 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C66F04.85F55D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Sorry for this, but do any one have or now where to get E-prom/software and a 1.4 MHz LSB filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400 The Crystal filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-30 from Cathodeon England. Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C66F04.85F55D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

Sorry for this, but do any one have or now = where to get

E-prom/software and a 1.4 MHz LSB filter for a MARCONI Ocean Link 400

The Crystal = filter for USB is marked with type BP4727-30 from Cathodeon England.

 

Vy 73 Ingolf = OZ7QC

 

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C66F04.85F55D00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203300309556706282 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9a2dcdcdef5b01b2f4d60cd554dffabea8dadefe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs7274wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.16 with SMTP id p16mr1031687nfh; Sat, 13 May 2006 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si8647194nfc.2006.05.13.14.43.19; Sat, 13 May 2006 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ff1rG-0006WK-Gi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:41:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ff1rG-0006WB-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:41:06 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ff3ml-00057n-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:44:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 2482 invoked from network); 13 May 2006 21:40:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.203.228 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2006 21:40:41 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <929292478.20060513233136@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.958,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: EA1PX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C676DE.6EFF24F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5455 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C676DE.6EFF24F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jos�, LF, Good signal in South-East England, also. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 13 May 2006 22:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: EA1PX Jos�, nice signal here tonight. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5456 Jean-Pierre, >WD2XES + long dash on 137778.8 ~ ?????? Yes, it was WD2XES! I was experimenting with VE7TIL's Phasescope program until 0145, when I switched to DFCW. Thanks for the report! John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202701315610735986 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0aedd48ba6502449bb12fcaf8a2eabda230e5737 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs54430wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 00:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr255559nfe; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si769745nfc.2006.05.07.00.02.34; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcdEL-0006j9-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 07:59:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcdEJ-0006j0-F4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 07:58:59 +0100 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fcf7K-00086X-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 10:00:14 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F27222C7 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 08:58:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <445D9A97.2090907@online.fr> Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 08:58:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))))) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.691,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: T/A beacon the last night WD2XGJ, VO1NA, WD2XNS , WD2XES . 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The last night I copy: WD2XGJ,VO1NA,WD2XNS WD2XES + long dash on 137778.8 ~ ?????? the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202636811656128619 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1c132cc96403ad76ecc998f680e1b335e982d659 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs35025wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 06:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.157.2 with SMTP id j2mr202011qbo; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f17si217326qba.2006.05.06.06.57.18; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcNCe-0001qB-3D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 14:52:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcNCd-0001q2-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 14:52:11 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcOeH-0007Bk-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:24:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 15577 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 13:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.154.78.20 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 13:52:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c67114$432ac980$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 13:52:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Loran off-air, or has may aerial fallen down? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5470 >From G3PLX: Just got back into the shack at 13:50z, and Rugby is certainly on-air now. I can't say if it was off earlier. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202346952660908349 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fa6fb3a70ba6e3288205a3aab73f106092229702 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs4932wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.15 with SMTP id o15mr138532nfg; Wed, 03 May 2006 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si962897nfa.2006.05.03.15.07.01; Wed, 03 May 2006 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbPSv-0003eh-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 23:05:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbPSu-0003eY-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 23:05:00 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbRKg-0001wL-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 01:04:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 54923 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 22:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.9.110 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2006 22:04:35 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c66efd$99041280$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> <445918F4.8070304@telus.net> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 22:59:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.039 Subject: Re: LF: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5471 The resistor absorbs no power, if the two modules are providing equal power and are IN PHASE. Be careful of this last one, particularly with p-p stages, as there are some splitter-combiners that operate differently (180 degrees, or quadrature at microwaves). Some alternative wideband ideas culled from professional Marine manuals are on my web pages. Whilst a Wilkinson is usually shown as combining two units, it and these can be configured for any number, even odd ones. The output impedance of the transformer versions is Zin /N , whereas Scott's lumped component design is narrow band and does not need an output transformer when properly designed. (i.e 50 ohm in <>50 ohm out ) It is also a lot easier to make for 136kHz. www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/combiner.htm Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202346952660908349 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 264c07b2b915652bbcd0831d83633b45725acabe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs2904wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.57.9 with SMTP id j9mr104245nfk; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si3936640nfa.2006.05.03.14.00.16; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbOOp-0003Fw-UC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:56:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbOOp-0003Fi-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:56:43 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes34.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbQGa-0001TB-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 23:56:39 +0100 Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes34.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060503205621.MKAP3245.priv-edmwes34.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:56:21 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 4AMPVKAP3E for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <445918F4.8070304@telus.net> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 13:56:20 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.192,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5472 Oh, for anyone else interested I posted a small website explaining my two port combiner for 2200m. I also have a working 4 port unit. Also on the site are links to Wilkinson resources that will explain the theory for those interested, including Mr. Wilkinson's original paper. http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/tx/ 73 Scott hamilton mal wrote: > Hi All > Looking at the cct of the Wilkinson combiner there is a large 100 ohm > Resistor involved. How efficient is this type of coupler and how much RF > does the resistor eat up.What is the loss through the device? > Those using the coupler will know the answer, and how were the values > calculated for LF applications. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202346952660908349 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6e73fd93c83d2ae1da62fc5c274c31a2561f32c1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs2886wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 13:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.15.20 with SMTP id s20mr80012nfi; Wed, 03 May 2006 13:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si114499nfe.2006.05.03.13.59.54; Wed, 03 May 2006 13:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbOMW-0003Cl-Vd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:54:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbOMW-0003Cc-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:54:20 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.240] helo=priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbQEJ-0001Rt-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 23:54:16 +0100 Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060503205357.UAGE4267.priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:53:57 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 21LPCTPASW for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44591862.1030808@telus.net> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 13:53:54 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.216,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5473 Mal The resistor is there to deal with an unbalanced situation only. If everything is 'OK' then no current flows in the resistor. Don't be two weirded out by this circuit as it widely used on HF, VHF and UHF to combine antennas. On these bands one uses coax to make the 1/4 wave sections and the resistor is often omitted. 73 Scott hamilton mal wrote: > Hi All > Looking at the cct of the Wilkinson combiner there is a large 100 ohm > Resistor involved. How efficient is this type of coupler and how much RF > does the resistor eat up.What is the loss through the device? > Those using the coupler will know the answer, and how were the values > calculated for LF applications. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202346952660908349 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 86c045185bf9e4f6e04e2de42d085716ac35fa57 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs22210wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 02:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.16 with SMTP id o16mr1230410nfh; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si1217569nfb.2006.05.03.02.10.07; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDKq-0001ux-NG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:07:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDKq-0001uo-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:07:52 +0100 Received: from smtpout0154.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.154] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbFCT-0004dx-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 12:07:36 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.1) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 4448A14A0012B3A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 3 May 2006 09:05:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:05:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.999 Subject: LF: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5474 Hi All Looking at the cct of the Wilkinson combiner there is a large 100 ohm Resistor involved. How efficient is this type of coupler and how much RF does the resistor eat up.What is the loss through the device? Those using the coupler will know the answer, and how were the values calculated for LF applications. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202788733609118607 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d8cc68864a12482d452221d6ba1d8584201a8757 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs21951wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 23:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.5 with SMTP id o5mr888619nfg; Sun, 07 May 2006 23:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si1762008nfc.2006.05.07.23.12.02; Sun, 07 May 2006 23:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcyus-00034p-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 07:08:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcyun-00034g-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 07:08:17 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fd0NE-0002xM-Vc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 08:41:50 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E1B71BE2 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 08:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <445EE048.4080306@online.fr> Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:08:08 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3) X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.833 Subject: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5475 =20 Hi all on the list ! Yesterday evening I forgot to commutate my antenna (K9AY) towards the 295=B0 it remained with the 115=B0!!!! I recorded only sf=E9rics of storm all the night! Sorry =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht =20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202667984100500623 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b24d3724ae3787260dbcddddaac11f259167efeb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs45827wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 15:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.236.2 with SMTP id n2mr425089qbr; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f17si597669qba.2006.05.06.15.12.46; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcUx4-0003JB-F1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:08:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcUx4-0003J2-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:08:38 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcWOr-0001lJ-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:41:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 42939 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 22:07:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.114.163 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 22:07:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c67159$81b52c00$a3728351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000701c67157$b6e210c0$a3728351@lark> Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 23:07:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.066 Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5476 Sorry wrong time Jose 2150z I forget my machines use BST so i get to bed sometime before it is too late! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Melia To: Sent: 06 May 2006 22:54 Subject: LF: EA1PX "O" at 2250z > Hi Jose, I have a nice QRSS3 CQ signal from you on the screen despite some > noise, and some local qrm. The lightning static which was quite severe > earlier today seems to have eased now (I must look at the plot and make sure > I am not about to be zapped overnight !) > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203101436541375519 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d6a969d9ba8155fee1fc41ad205fa03cf483d523 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs42703wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.111.26 with SMTP id o26mr1847151ugm; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si1046431ugf.2006.05.12.10.01.37; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feaye-0002DM-CS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:58:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feayd-0002D9-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:58:55 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fectl-0005td-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:02:16 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FeayN-0001jJ-03; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:58:39 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XVqbvkZcQeRBg-8pqUoMgL2P6s0UhqbDh4ooJgg1JN+Z79Sxk7fjga@[84.133.118.149]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Feay9-2I9BTs0; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:58:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:58:17 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <551174467.20060512185817@t-online.de> To: Dave Pick In-Reply-To: <8bf118410605120923g39e2e482n969cc7e7099d120a@mail.gmail.com> References: <619852014.20060511185441@t-online.de> <8bf118410605120923g39e2e482n969cc7e7099d120a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XVqbvkZcQeRBg-8pqUoMgL2P6s0UhqbDh4ooJgg1JN+Z79Sxk7fjga X-TOI-MSGID: ab6cd9b2-a0a0-43ec-b145-473e92eac880 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.879 Subject: Re: LF: T/A May, 10/11 and mystery lines in the T/A window Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------A61AA642C3A38C7" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5477 ------------A61AA642C3A38C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, attached two screenshots taken last night showing the fade-in and out of the line. Local sunset here was 19:02 and sunrise 03:27. 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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 18:54:41 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <619852014.20060511185441@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XKH96EZbreay+RR3fgg3-nR6p6jQb8GpETOpfzbJ4T5pTQgJyTfvwc X-TOI-MSGID: ca9f3a47-727a-4ef9-8ebb-c946fc747a00 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.833 Subject: LF: T/A May, 10/11 and mystery lines in the T/A window Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5478 High noise level last night. From VO1NA I captured only a "1NA" 00:15-00:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:40-03:15. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm I added 2 captures of the mystery lines which appeared in the T/A window. Last night there was only one line. The capture of the night before is more interesting because there a two lines. Fade in about local sunset and fade out during local dawn. One of the lines looks like a sawtooth or triangle. Any ideas of the source of these lines? 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203375717305780844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0abc28aab1755d3a79388d0654cfeb6d607a23d9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs3424wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.222.11 with SMTP id u11mr1406506nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si2795255nfc.2006.05.14.10.41.53; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfKYb-0001au-FA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:39:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfKYa-0001al-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:39:04 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfM4D-00027Y-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 20:15:54 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21527 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfKYU-000Bpe-Oc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:38:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c6777d$448fa600$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:38:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.433 Subject: LF: T/A May 14 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6778E.07E61B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5479 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C6778E.07E61B60 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I have designed a new PCB for the mini-whip with SMD parts, except for the 2N5109. The latter will be exchanged for a BFR96 in the near future. Testdriving the new board last night, VO1NA and WD2XGJ were received quite well. Joe's signal peaked one hour before local sunrise. A screenshot of WD2XGJ is in the next e-mail It is amazing to realise that these signals were received on a square inch of copperclad PCB. The complete board measures 22 x 60 mm. 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boundary="--------MailBlocks_8C84454D1BFD224_1B84_4CCD_FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com" ----------MailBlocks_8C84454D1BFD224_1B84_4CCD_FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe, =20 strong signal (up to .4 =C2=B5V/m) despite heavy qrn here. Sorry my screengr= abber seems to be down at the moment due to an outage at the freenet server=20= - hope it will be back on soon. =20 73 and best wishes =20 Markus DF6NM =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Joe Craig An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Verschickt: Fr, 12 Mai 2006 21:06:06 -0230 (NDT) Thema: Re: LF: T/A May, 12 th NA 137.7770 kHz QRSS60 500 watts 2.5 amps to a 100m wire up 10m. ----------MailBlocks_8C84454D1BFD224_1B84_4CCD_FWM-D45.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe,
 
strong signal (up to .4 =C2=B5V/m) despite heavy qrn here. Sorry my scr= eengrabber seems to be down at the moment due to an outage at the freenet se= rver - hope it will be back on soon.
 
73 and best wishes
 
Markus DF6NM
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Joe Craig <jcraig@mun.ca>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgVerschickt: Fr, 12 Mai 2006 21:06:06 -0230 (NDT)
Thema: Re: LF: T/A May,= 12 th

NA 137.7770 kHz QRSS60 500 watts 2.5 amps to a 100m wire u=
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X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.020 Subject: Re: LF: T/A May, 12 th Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5481 Dear Group, Hartmut wrote: > on a QRSS3 screen. Nothing from Joe, VO1NA. Probably the tx was > off. Which is correct. I neglected to switch it back on after tinkering around in the shack. It should be back on again tonight. I made some observations while on the ocean last month. My beacon could be heard at 400 km using a 2' loop (15 turns, 35 dB preamp) and at 60 km using the Miniwhip. (The RX is very deaf and intermod prone -- it was not designed for LF.) The signals could be heard both day and night up to 400 km. Using Argo, XGJ XES and XNS were copied and were generally stronger than NA (at 700km) even though they were much farther away, presumably because they were skywave. My thanks to DF6NM DL4YHF F1AFJ F5YG G3AQC G3NYK G3YXM G4WGT H.Wolff K2ORS OZ7QC PA0RDT PA3FNY (and apologies to anyone I left out) who sent reports of NA over the past month or so. I best switch on the TX now before I forget to do it again! The class E TX (100W) was used since about 20 April. The Decca will be on soon. NA 137.7770 kHz QRSS60 500 watts 2.5 amps to a 100m wire up 10m. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203182823941785885 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d2a151940995df393e0e7fb266e85b3231100aae Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs36667wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.114.23 with SMTP id r23mr1755016ugm; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si4100420uge.2006.05.12.07.35.56; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeYgw-0001SB-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 15:32:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeYgv-0001S2-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 15:32:29 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FeaBW-0005yr-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:08:14 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FeYgp-0006MG-01; Fri, 12 May 2006 16:32:23 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SUG7BQZ6gecUT4Qw1NGZ+O3O05wREImPaCro+Bn5LXlJZZIVGY2trN@[84.133.118.149]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FeYgZ-2H0ErY0; Fri, 12 May 2006 16:32:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:32:05 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1754127413.20060512163205@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SUG7BQZ6gecUT4Qw1NGZ+O3O05wREImPaCro+Bn5LXlJZZIVGY2trN X-TOI-MSGID: 8ec6614f-908e-4eaf-8dd1-fa3c6991d506 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.827 Subject: LF: T/A May, 12 th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5482 Nice copy of WD2XES last night. John was sending the full callsign in DFCW60. From Warren, WD2XGJ I missed one dot of the "X", but the signal has dogbones about 02:30. At that time the signal could be well seen on a QRSS3 screen. Nothing from Joe, VO1NA. Probably the tx was off. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202671521993949799 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 76409f924a05ac385a1dceba218ef41d6ec10351 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs47593wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 16:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr73205nfe; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si461131nfc.2006.05.06.16.54.59; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcWaX-0003tl-9z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:53:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcWaW-0003tc-Lz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:53:28 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcY2N-0002EP-MR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:26:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 35001 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 23:52:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.116.111 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 23:52:18 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c67168$1b49d9c0$a3728351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 00:50:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.020 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5485 Hi Dave I must have been lucky because I spotted Jose on my "T/A" loop which must be almost side on to him, but my noise has dropped quite a bit tonight except for one rather more distant "drifty". I am glad you made the qso its not easy going south with Lessay banging away, but the storms seem to have abated a bit this evening. Cheers de Alan G3NYK . ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave G3WCB To: Sent: 06 May 2006 23:54 Subject: LF: RE: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z > Alan, Jose, LF, > > My RX Loop was pointing the wrong may, and I didn't see EA1PX until I > switched to the vertical. Thanks for the warning! > > EA1PX is my first 2-way QSO with Spain. > > Screenshot attached. Copy "O" at first, becoming "M" > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 06 May 2006 23:08 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z > > > Sorry wrong time Jose 2150z I forget my machines use BST so i get to bed > sometime before it is too late! > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Melia > To: > Sent: 06 May 2006 22:54 > Subject: LF: EA1PX "O" at 2250z > > > > Hi Jose, I have a nice QRSS3 CQ signal from you on the screen despite some > > noise, and some local qrm. The lightning static which was quite severe > > earlier today seems to have eased now (I must look at the plot and make > sure > > I am not about to be zapped overnight !) > > > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202671521993949799 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 68e979b7ef94a0eb50d86c1c1ed73fcfa1776177 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs46902wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 16:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.5 with SMTP id o5mr79108nfg; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si426111nfc.2006.05.06.16.08.59; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVrw-0003hx-Kl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:07:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVrw-0003ho-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:07:24 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout2.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcXku-0007Kk-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:08:31 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.49.69.130) by ctsmtpout2.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 444CDCB6001AD584 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 7 May 2006 01:07:08 +0200 Message-ID: <002401c67161$c846fe20$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 01:07:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5486 Hello Alan, Dave and all Thanks Alan for nice report, and thanks Dave for our first QSO. Now I=B4m going to monitor on 440 kHz, I think that tonight most of LFers= are=20 over there, hi. Best regards.....Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:54 AM Subject: LF: RE: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z > Alan, Jose, LF, > > My RX Loop was pointing the wrong may, and I didn't see EA1PX until I > switched to the vertical. Thanks for the warning! > > EA1PX is my first 2-way QSO with Spain. > > Screenshot attached. Copy "O" at first, becoming "M" > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 06 May 2006 23:08 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z > > > Sorry wrong time Jose 2150z I forget my machines use BST so i get to be= d > sometime before it is too late! > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Melia > To: > Sent: 06 May 2006 22:54 > Subject: LF: EA1PX "O" at 2250z > > >> Hi Jose, I have a nice QRSS3 CQ signal from you on the screen despite=20 >> some >> noise, and some local qrm. The lightning static which was quite severe >> earlier today seems to have eased now (I must look at the plot and mak= e > sure >> I am not about to be zapped overnight !) >> >> Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB >> >> >> > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203388424077150219 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d1b3df910221d67b421d341cfabb8eb2fb0ddfe9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs7459wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr2993133nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si2986615nfb.2006.05.14.14.03.51; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNjN-0002mN-Bj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:02:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNjM-0002mE-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:02:24 +0100 Received: from grunt15.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfPfI-0005IF-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:06:35 +0100 Received: from 203-173-156-36.bliink.ihug.co.nz (athlon1200) [203.173.156.36] by grunt15.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FfNi4-0001HC-00; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:01:04 +1200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.392 [268.5.6/339]); Mon, 15 May 2006 09:01:20 +1200 Message-ID: <043e01c67799$8ccbb5a0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <001a01c6777d$448fa600$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:01:20 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: T/A May 14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5487 Hi Roelof Can you be quite sure the feedline is not contributing to your received signal level? Any variation in strength with height would be a good indication that it is. Interesting to note your proposed use of the BFR96- have to say 2N5109s are not easy to find now. Is the BFR96 used in this instance from the SMD aspect and is there any performance degradation from this. 73 Dave ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: LF: T/A May 14 > Hello all, > > I have designed a new PCB for the mini-whip with SMD parts, except > for the > 2N5109. > The latter will be exchanged for a BFR96 in the near future. > > Testdriving the new board last night, VO1NA and WD2XGJ were received > quite > well. > Joe's signal peaked one hour before local sunrise. > > A screenshot of WD2XGJ is in the next e-mail > > It is amazing to realise that these signals were received on a > square inch > of copperclad PCB. The complete board measures 22 x 60 mm. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202516616493309924 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b68c5e680ee94ef692dfc1313fe28865bfd02c00 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs43868wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 23:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.80.7 with SMTP id h7mr1379953nfl; Thu, 04 May 2006 23:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si3512256nfb.2006.05.04.23.06.51; Thu, 04 May 2006 23:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbtM4-00072H-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 06:59:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbtM1-000728-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 06:59:53 +0100 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fbun0-0006bq-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 08:31:55 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EB3192D2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 07:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <445AE9CE.8010808@online.fr> Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 07:59:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.871 Subject: LF: Fw: TA the last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5488 Hi all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity + noise only some traces of "XGJ" and "XNS" the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202329234984531420 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 53ce96f7294a8cbbdb3ec8833c3b8fb46d288196 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17379wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 21:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.16 with SMTP id o16mr1067475nfh; Tue, 02 May 2006 21:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si3123609nfa.2006.05.02.21.28.30; Tue, 02 May 2006 21:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb8vy-0000qx-9K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 05:25:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb8vx-0000qo-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 05:25:53 +0100 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbAnW-0001rE-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:25:33 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0D5251C0008A for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 06:25:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-209.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-209.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.209]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 53CB11C0008C for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 06:25:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060503042530343.53CB11C0008C@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 06:25:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <050220061628.1593.44578896000490B00000063922135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <050220061628.1593.44578896000490B00000063922135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.607 Subject: LF: TA = 0 last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5489 Nothing at all, last night, only statics... But 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204731012957257693 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 59037a2a5f7963d8f5ddf59052a2cae907730555 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs2510wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr2128271nfe; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si5518286nfc.2006.05.30.11.00.48; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8TU-0007tX-Cx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:57:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8TU-0007tO-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:57:48 +0100 Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fl8TQ-0005BF-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:57:48 +0100 Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-231.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-231.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.231]) by mwinf0501.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD1071C0008E for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 19:57:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060530175737774.BD1071C0008E@mwinf0501.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 19:57:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: LF Group In-Reply-To: <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Message-ID: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.428,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376 Subject: Re: LF: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5491 Hello Andy and all ! Back home, I tried for the first time to listen to the beacon. Surprisingly, the level above noise, using the standard 500 Hz bandpass CW filter was not to bad for the end of the afternoon (at 1731 UTC). I shall try to write a MP3 file for you. The aerial is a 1.8 MHz half wave end fed. Best 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204731012957257693 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c46398fc9b627bcb12109ccb00073dd50265bca Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs80593wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.51.9 with SMTP id y9mr430609huy; Mon, 29 May 2006 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 27si846414hua.2006.05.29.09.43.44; Mon, 29 May 2006 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkkk5-00040F-SY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:37:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkkk4-000406-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:37:20 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fkkk1-0001rq-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:37:20 +0100 Received: from [212.248.140.22] ([212.248.140.22]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k4TGfEF1009217; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:41:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.394 [268.7.3/350]); Mon, 29 May 2006 16:36:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: "LF Group" Cc: "API\(Work\)" , "API\(Home\)" , "WKL" , "Alan Melia" References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 16:36:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.533 Subject: LF: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5492 I am currently testing a low power experimental beacon on 1960.000kHz +/- 1Hz. It uses a transmission format similar to that of the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL/WES and ORK, execpt that the sounder sequence is replaced by a PSK31 message. The sequence transmitted is : T+0s CW Callsign T+7 - T+15s Nine power steps with the output reduced by 6dB each time for a total of -48dB T+16 - T+24 A repeat of the power steps. T+25 - T+30 Full power (level measurement reference period) T+30 - T+47 PSK31 data T+47 - T+59 Full power The reference time T starts at one minute past the hour and repeats every 15 minutes, so transmissions occur at 01, 16, 31 and 46 minutes past the hour. If the 'GB3RAL' monitoring software is used for logging this signal, the transmission will be shown and recorded as if it were that from GB3WES. The transmissions will continue overnight, and will hopefully be switched on for subsequent evening & overnight runs. Power output is 3Watts to my 7m high Tee antenna - esimated gain -9dBd The beacon hardware consists of an identical DDS and PIC controller to that used on GB3VHF, although without the GPS locking; frequency is derived from a TCXO alone. A Motorola Oncore GPS module controls timing. Completely new PIC software uses the 12 bits of amplitude control possible within the AD9852 DDS chip to generate the power steps directly rather than having to use a separate programmable attenuator as was done for the 5MHz beacons. The PSK31 envelope is directly generaed at RF by looking up 250 half-sinewave amplitude values for each 31.25 baud symbol at a sampling rate of 7812.5Hz. Full details of both the 5MHz beacon designs and the driver for GB3VHF can be found on the website below Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 2006-05-28 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203249870316191358 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 134603a0f8118ca34254731c3f83de5c9104f448 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs62102wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.15 with SMTP id z15mr1732292nfk; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si2885086nfb.2006.05.13.01.21.36; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FepLn-0004mp-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:19:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FepLn-0004mg-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:19:47 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FerH9-0005YM-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:23:22 +0100 Received: from [217.184.226.138] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1FepLV2imS-0001bC; Sat, 13 May 2006 10:19:30 +0200 Message-ID: <007701c67665$f3ef5280$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:19:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.021 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5493 Hi Gary, thanks very much for the screenshot! Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / W1KW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO-2 > Hi Geri & LF, > > Screen shot taken 2056 to 2101utc 12/05/2006. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202290991316708489 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d9f6b3fb535d767fe8e4bf2b146e7e794fc2f6f9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs3447wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 11:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.15.11 with SMTP id s11mr747334nfi; Tue, 02 May 2006 11:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si2566102nfc.2006.05.02.11.20.38; Tue, 02 May 2006 11:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FazQG-0008F6-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 19:16:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FazQG-0008Ex-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 19:16:32 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fb1He-0006f2-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 21:16:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 12976 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2006 18:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.86]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 2 May 2006 18:16:08 -0000 Message-ID: <002501c66e13$39f920e0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 20:07:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: pictures of mu 136kHz stn in progress--updated Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5495 Hello all, new pictures have been uploaded to the PA6Z website. I'll add comments to it later. About the supply voltage: it will be 50-70Volt. 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202785071751070413 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 29c7d433a3eb64362c1038199cf522bfdc9ad939 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs27369wra; Mon, 8 May 2006 03:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.144.7 with SMTP id r7mr1060052nfd; Mon, 08 May 2006 03:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si2010780nfc.2006.05.08.03.37.05; Mon, 08 May 2006 03:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd30Y-0003c5-HO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 11:30:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd30X-0003bw-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 11:30:30 +0100 Received: from rks36.urz.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.166] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fd4T6-0004X1-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 13:04:08 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1Fd30N-0002yW-AK; Mon, 08 May 2006 12:30:19 +0200 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rks36 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21719-61 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 12:30:18 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [141.30.62.62] (helo=rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1Fd30I-0002xP-G1; Mon, 08 May 2006 12:30:18 +0200 Received: by rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.9.1) id MAA03287; Mon, 8 May 2006 12:30:14 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <20060508123014.A3080@rcs52.urz.tu-dresden.de> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:30:14 +0200 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW>; from Holger 'Geri', DK8KW on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:10:31AM +0200 X-Beer: Jever X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on rks36 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.650 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5498 Hello Geri, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: > throughout daylight hors, the power level of the DI2BO transmission > on 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which means that the > ERP is in the 100 to 200 mW range. weak aural copy of DI2BO right now (08-May-06, 10:23 UTC) in Dresden, JO61UA. Very slow QSB, at peaks very solid copy. RIG: IC735 + 250Hz filter, 160m sloper at DL0TUD. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ Online log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202785071751070413 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d9c04721b949e706826ce1b8108e2af5a658a8d4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs23951wra; Mon, 8 May 2006 01:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.30.7 with SMTP id h7mr963280nfj; Mon, 08 May 2006 01:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si503555nfa.2006.05.08.01.10.07; Mon, 08 May 2006 01:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd0hz-0003Hp-09 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 09:03:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd0hy-0003Hg-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 09:03:10 +0100 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fd2AT-0003ZX-RN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 10:36:46 +0100 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1126337nzf for ; Mon, 08 May 2006 01:02:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UiVVm0lazfSAwo95bFj8paIAyndV5WpnXkctoYa0O8xBt0eiOgeIpuwAnUsuF0+j0en64mxQP8To8JqKMPYKp4oT6aG346GQ92pltxy/UdL6Lv7b1j3Oj7u933DfXWgupSm2GrKKaVTFhDMeeC45mFUwxThSQyYaSDGYzMohC+0= Received: by 10.65.160.16 with SMTP id m16mr912297qbo; Mon, 08 May 2006 01:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.114.20 with HTTP; Mon, 8 May 2006 01:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:02:01 +0200 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.737,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34943_22500831.1147075321191" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5499 ------=_Part_34943_22500831.1147075321191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/5/8, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW : > > Hello LF and MF friends, > > throughout daylight hors, the power level of the DI2BO transmission on > 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which means that the ERP is in > the 100 to 200 mW range. > > Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the power will be raised again about 3 to 5 > Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB, the transmission frequency will b= e > changed down to 439.010 kHz for one night to see if Ha-Jo is able to > better separate DI2BO from the NDB PIA operating on the same frequency. F= or > the time being thansmission mode will remain plain CW with 5 wpm. > > Thanks for all reception reports that I received so far. > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) > > Geri, Thank you for QSY, here (JN53KX) PIA NDB is quit strong all day long and i heard nothing. '73 IK5ZPV ------=_Part_34943_22500831.1147075321191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

2006/5/8, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW <geri@dk8kw.de>:
Hello LF and MF friends,
 
throughout daylight hors, the power le= vel of the DI2BO transmission on 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB= which means that the ERP is in the 100 to 200 mW range.
 
Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the powe= r will be raised again about 3 to 5 Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB,= the transmission frequency will be changed down to 439.010 kHz for one nig= ht to see if Ha-Jo  is able to better separate DI2= BO from the NDB PIA operating on the same frequency. For the time being tha= nsmission mode will remain plain CW with 5 wpm.
 
Thanks for all reception reports that = I received so far.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
=
Geri,
 
Thank you for QSY, here (JN53KX) PIA NDB is quit strong all day long a= nd i heard nothing.
 
'73 IK5ZPV
 

 
------=_Part_34943_22500831.1147075321191-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202785071751070413 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 682db9edce22542c2740aaf7370bfe39a1cf3037 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20937wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 22:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.32.9 with SMTP id k9mr862556nfj; Sun, 07 May 2006 22:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si1721307nfc.2006.05.07.22.13.50; Sun, 07 May 2006 22:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcy1B-0002wO-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 06:10:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcy1A-0002wF-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 06:10:48 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fczub-0000st-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 08:12:25 +0100 Received: from [217.251.227.157] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1Fcy0u2wMb-0003h5; Mon, 08 May 2006 07:10:33 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 07:10:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.024,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6726E.7E6AB810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6726E.7E6AB810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LF and MF friends, throughout daylight hors, the power level of the DI2BO transmission on = 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which means that the ERP is = in the 100 to 200 mW range. Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the power will be raised again about 3 to = 5 Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB, the transmission frequency = will be changed down to 439.010 kHz for one night to see if Ha-Jo is = able to better separate DI2BO from the NDB PIA operating on the same = frequency. For the time being thansmission mode will remain plain CW = with 5 wpm. Thanks for all reception reports that I received so far.=20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6726E.7E6AB810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF and MF friends,
 
throughout daylight hors, the power = level of the=20 DI2BO transmission on 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which = means=20 that the ERP is in the 100 to 200 mW range.
 
Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the power = will be=20 raised again about 3 to 5 Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB, the=20 transmission frequency will be changed down to 439.010 kHz for one night = to see=20 if Ha-Jo is able to better = separate DI2BO=20 from the NDB PIA operating on the same frequency. For the time being=20 thansmission mode will remain plain CW with 5 wpm.
 
Thanks for all reception reports that I = received so=20 far.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6726E.7E6AB810-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203277280048179319 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 400b640b7bf036a56e316e432624eedbada75ea1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17163wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr1075481nfe; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4033294nfc.2006.05.14.00.07.08; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfAez-0000Ij-K9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:05:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfAey-0000Ia-Up for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:05:00 +0100 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfCah-0007Hr-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:08:58 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1306.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C6D7E7000092 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:04:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-181.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-181.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.181]) by mwinf1306.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AFBB77000091 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:04:32 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060514070432719.AFBB77000091@mwinf1306.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <098c01c676a2$8ae830d0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Message-ID: References: <098c01c676a2$8ae830d0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.562 Subject: Re: LF: QAZ -- DI2B is temporary off the air now due to upcoming thunderstorm. 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-133680098-1147590253=:6889" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5508 This message is in MIME format. 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------=_NextPart_000_0989_01C676B3.4CA9AE50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203343098154257338 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5980669efe747908d5006199170e247be4361fa7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs7339wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.12 with SMTP id b12mr2860396nfi; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si9897580nfc.2006.05.14.13.53.54; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNZ1-0002ad-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:51:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNZ0-0002aU-Ke for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:51:42 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] helo=imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfPUw-0005B3-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 23:55:53 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.447.72b29b (30739) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <447.72b29b.3198f244@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 16:51:16 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.003,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: T/A May, 13/14 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_447.72b29b.3198f244_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_COMMENT_8BITS, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5510 --part1_447.72b29b.3198f244_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_447.72b29b.3198f244_rel_boundary" --part1_447.72b29b.3198f244_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="447.72b29b_alt_bound" --447.72b29b_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Joe and Warren, nice copy in Nuernberg as well: around 0:30, and later ~ 3:30: 73 de Markus, DF6NM --447.72b29b_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Joe and Warren,

nice copy in Nuernberg as well:
around 0:30, and later ~ 3= :30:


73 de Markus, DF6NM
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X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 40c9cb06537cb19841242f9cbca74aa5e72a4650 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs18649wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.222.9 with SMTP id u9mr1124187nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si1850825nfc.2006.05.14.02.03.26; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfCSw-0000Wh-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfCSv-0000WY-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:41 +0100 Received: from 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1891466313.20060514110015@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Tzf1rTZA8eN4BHt2khMow4HSnevwFV3URNtpkkVbdpGaScl1KhCZgt X-TOI-MSGID: febf4851-2699-455a-8bec-c6b7265b5483 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.867 Subject: LF: T/A May, 13/14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5511 Again strong signals from VO1NA 23:45-03:35 and from WD2XGJ 02:05-03:30 last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202666986544503516 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 19e8c26367934f9bc767c5894f1b0447c2b3d290 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs45527wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 14:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.24.20 with SMTP id 20mr347389qbx; Sat, 06 May 2006 14:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si509651qbe.2006.05.06.14.56.54; Sat, 06 May 2006 14:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcUjh-0003Bk-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 22:54:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcUjg-0003Bb-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 22:54:48 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcWBU-0001gd-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:27:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 37952 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 21:54:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.114.163 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 21:54:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c67157$b6e210c0$a3728351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 22:54:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.095 Subject: LF: EA1PX "O" at 2250z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5512 Hi Jose, I have a nice QRSS3 CQ signal from you on the screen despite some noise, and some local qrm. The lightning static which was quite severe earlier today seems to have eased now (I must look at the plot and make sure I am not about to be zapped overnight !) Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203303840341916844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ce4ee5ae202d73094c453bf82a9049fbf2362f59 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs8300wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.17 with SMTP id s17mr1052954nfj; Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si8673591nfe.2006.05.13.15.39.26; Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ff2go-0006fx-Da for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 23:34:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ff2gn-0006fo-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 23:34:21 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ff4C3-0003hl-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:10:47 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.41.118.134) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 4464EAC600014F88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:34:16 +0200 Message-ID: <003201c676dd$5436df10$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <929292478.20060513233136@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:33:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5513 Hello all Thanks Hartmut and Dave for nice reports. There was another station that called to me, after my QSO with G3XIZ, but= I=20 couldn?t identify it, Sri. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:31 PM Subject: LF: EA1PX > Jos=E9, > > nice signal here tonight. Screenshot attached. > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202825778887897343 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8b17d43571e95db61085e4630740f420538a471d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs12055wra; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.15 with SMTP id p15mr1569430nfp; Mon, 08 May 2006 15:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si2659005nfc.2006.05.08.15.44.32; Mon, 08 May 2006 15:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdEPX-0004lp-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 23:41:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdEPW-0004lg-Oa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 23:41:02 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdFsJ-0001Km-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:14:56 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FdEOS-0006pA-01; Tue, 09 May 2006 00:39:56 +0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (TtjRGgZGwen3qAc+i41HYM23HpU6isL8+ZG+diYqwYCN1w8NscD8oz@[84.145.214.88]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1FdEOI-1dBRlx0; Tue, 9 May 2006 00:39:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de (Hans-Joachim Brandt) References:<001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <000801c672b8$3df6ef20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> In-Reply-To:<000801c672b8$3df6ef20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0036 Date: 08 May 2006 22:39 GMT Message-ID: <1FdEOI-1dBRlx0@fwd34.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: TtjRGgZGwen3qAc+i41HYM23HpU6isL8+ZG+diYqwYCN1w8NscD8oz X-TOI-MSGID: d33acf33-aecb-4b33-8a32-b2f98a1c3be8 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.297,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Frequency correction: 439.910 kHz! Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="__Next_1147127956_Part188__" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5517 --__Next_1147127956_Part188__ Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Dear all, after QSY to 439,91 kHz the signal of DI2BO has been audible after 20.00 g= mt almost continually in eastern Bavaria (JN68GN). Before 22.00 gmt the sig= nal was rather weak but mostly readable, with the exception of some deep QS= B periods. But after 22.00 gmt the signal became very consistent and rose u= p to S6 (S-meter report depending on how narrow the passband tuning had bee= n adjusted). I stopped listening at 22.40 gmt. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB=20 =20 "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" schrieb:=20 Hi, the frequency has a typo, I will transmit on 439.910 kHz, which is with= in the plus/minus 100 Hz bandwidth which is permitted. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW = / DI2BO (W1KW) --__Next_1147127956_Part188__ Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable T-Online eMail
Dear=20 all,
 
after QSY to 439,91 k= Hz the=20 signal of DI2BO has been audible after 20.00 gmt almost continually in east= ern=20 Bavaria (JN68GN). Before 22.00 gmt the signal was rather weak but mostly=20 readable, with the exception of some deep QSB periods. But after 22.00 gmt = the=20 signal became very consistent and rose up to S6 (S-meter report depending o= n how=20 narrow the passband tuning had been adjusted).
 
I stopped listening a= t 22.40=20 gmt.
 
73 Ha-Jo,=20 DJ1ZB 
 
 
  "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" <geri@dk8kw.de> schri= eb:=20
=20
Hi,
 
the frequency has a typo, I will transmit = on=20 439.910 kHz, which is within the plus/minus 100 Hz bandwidth which is=20 permitted.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
 
--__Next_1147127956_Part188__-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202825778887897343 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: df74fbe6475befc37efac248b00035123ebc8515 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs150wra; Mon, 8 May 2006 09:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.32.4 with SMTP id k4mr1314453nfj; Mon, 08 May 2006 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si2329674nfc.2006.05.08.09.00.51; Mon, 08 May 2006 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd88D-0004G1-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 16:58:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd88D-0004Fs-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 16:58:45 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdA1o-0007jA-LZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 19:00:31 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.17] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1Fd87v1hmd-0001tM; Mon, 08 May 2006 17:58:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c672b8$3df6ef20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <001b01c6725d$bb70e1a0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:58:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.018,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Frequency correction: 439.910 kHz! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C672C9.00A20950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5518 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C672C9.00A20950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, the frequency has a typo, I will transmit on 439.910 kHz, which is = within the plus/minus 100 Hz bandwidth which is permitted. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: LF: DI2BO Update, May 8, 2006 Hello LF and MF friends, throughout daylight hors, the power level of the DI2BO transmission on = 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which means that the ERP is = in the 100 to 200 mW range. Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the power will be raised again about 3 = to 5 Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB, the transmission frequency = will be changed down to 439.010 kHz for one night to see if Ha-Jo is = able to better separate DI2BO from the NDB PIA operating on the same = frequency. For the time being thansmission mode will remain plain CW = with 5 wpm. Thanks for all reception reports that I received so far.=20 Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C672C9.00A20950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
the frequency has a typo, I will = transmit on=20 439.910 kHz, which is within the plus/minus 100 Hz bandwidth which is=20 permitted.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Holger 'Geri', = DK8KW=20
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:10 = AM
Subject: LF: DI2BO Update, May = 8,=20 2006

Hello LF and MF friends,
 
throughout daylight hors, the power = level of the=20 DI2BO transmission on 440.040 kHz will be reduced by about 12 dB which = means=20 that the ERP is in the 100 to 200 mW range.
 
Tonight after about 17.00 UTC the = power will be=20 raised again about 3 to 5 Wattes ERP. By request of Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB, the=20 transmission frequency will be changed down to 439.010 kHz for one = night to=20 see if Ha-Jo is able to better = separate=20 DI2BO from the NDB PIA operating on the same frequency. For the time = being=20 thansmission mode will remain plain CW with 5 wpm.
 
Thanks for all reception reports that = I received=20 so far.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO = (W1KW)
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C672C9.00A20950-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202674416641377903 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 15bf3488121699789e1f08f9902d2749df7808ef Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs47595wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 16:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.30.7 with SMTP id h7mr101596nfj; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si465132nfa.2006.05.06.16.55.01; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcWam-0003u6-DI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:53:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcWal-0003tx-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 00:53:43 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcY2c-0002EW-V7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:26:39 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.49.69.130) by ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 444D1C3A0019BA0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 7 May 2006 01:53:38 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c67168$475bbdd0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 01:53:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO 440 kHz audible Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C67179.0A82BEC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5519 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C67179.0A82BEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Geri and all DI2BO was "audible" here a while ago on 440 kHz, but now it isn=B4t, = because of strong QRM of "PIA" carrier on the same frequency. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C67179.0A82BEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Geri and all
 
DI2BO was "audible" here a while ago on = 440 kHz,=20 but now it isn=B4t, because of strong QRM of "PIA" carrier on the same=20 frequency.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX,=20 IN53ti
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C67179.0A82BEC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204743092534432011 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a5b74333254ea25aa87e73316c34ea9db3d79b3a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs87381wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.15.13 with SMTP id s13mr1995670nfi; Mon, 29 May 2006 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si4404314nfb.2006.05.29.12.55.44; Mon, 29 May 2006 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fknnb-0004Lf-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 20:53:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fknnb-0004LW-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 20:53:11 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FknnY-0003Q5-DQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 20:53:11 +0100 Received: from tnt-5-146.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.146] helo=captbrian) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FknnV-0001co-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 20:53:06 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 20:45:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: how to do? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5520 well then ditto here except a spam advt. for the 'blue pill'.. Are you at least one step up on me and know how to delete the "deleted items" in outlook express Version 6? Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: 29 May 2006 15:13 Subject: LF: Just testing. > I have not had any e-mails at all today from any source, so just checking. > > No response required. > > Gary. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202604724574038858 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5d0d8b52182e8fc9a8cfc63d2497ad9a686432bb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs26613wra; Fri, 5 May 2006 22:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.22.8 with SMTP id z8mr119097qbi; Fri, 05 May 2006 22:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si379266qba.2006.05.05.22.27.16; Fri, 05 May 2006 22:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcFFW-0000eY-S0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:22:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcFFR-0000eP-D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:22:33 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcGgu-000561-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 07:55:05 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861026D5B7 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 07:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <445C3292.8040404@online.fr> Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 07:22:26 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.852 Subject: LF: T A the last night VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5522 Hi all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions for me ! with a very very strong static activity ( local storm <30km ! ) Only copy VO1NA the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202712631730151140 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 61ff3063e893bb3f551f13359752b7211ac2e02f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs56485wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 03:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.6.29 with SMTP id 29mr303501ugf; Sun, 07 May 2006 03:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si1000534ugf.2006.05.07.03.02.25; Sun, 07 May 2006 03:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcg4G-0007dA-PF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 11:00:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcg4G-0007d1-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 11:00:48 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FchxP-0000wj-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 13:02:06 +0100 Received: from [217.251.224.44] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2Dk-1Fcg3W0WQJ-0000by; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <005901c671bd$0105e900$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <002f01c67168$475bbdd0$2201a8c0@PC2> Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 11:59:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.048,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO 440 kHz audible Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C671CD.C3BF3400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5525 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C671CD.C3BF3400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jos=E9, thank you very much for the report, this is great that you were able to = hear my signal in Spain! I will confirm your reception with a special QSL once they are printed. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jose Manuel=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 1:53 AM Subject: LF: DI2BO 440 kHz audible Hello Geri and all DI2BO was "audible" here a while ago on 440 kHz, but now it isn=B4t, = because of strong QRM of "PIA" carrier on the same frequency. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C671CD.C3BF3400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Jos=E9,
 
thank you very much for the report, = this is great=20 that you were able to hear my signal in Spain!
 
I will confirm your reception with a = special QSL=20 once they are printed.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jose=20 Manuel
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 1:53 = AM
Subject: LF: DI2BO 440 kHz = audible

Hello Geri and all
 
DI2BO was "audible" here a while ago = on 440 kHz,=20 but now it isn=B4t, because of strong QRM of "PIA" carrier on the same = frequency.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX,=20 IN53ti
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C671CD.C3BF3400-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203447646612424237 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: da8fb4e1a0b9118311d0c6b7c5e9bf4561875a37 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs27210wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.19 with SMTP id m19mr2093471nfg; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si5703864nfc.2006.05.15.05.45.06; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfcN0-0005LJ-5b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:40:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfcMz-0005LA-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:40:17 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ffdt0-0002uf-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:17:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 13764 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 2006 12:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.46]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 May 2006 12:39:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c6781b$637b1a60$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:29:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.915,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: meter problem (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5526 Hello, Some more info: I measured the voltage available for the meter circuit at low and high power level. With 60W DC input I have around 3 V and with 400W DC input this goes up to around 9 - 10V My meter is 10mA full scalle. With 53mV I have full scale reading , so internal resistance around 5 Ohm. So, with around 26.5mV I have 5mA reading. So my meter should read around 0.5mA at 60W DC input (=3V from detector) and about 3.5mA at 400W DC input (9V) These are rough figures. So, I'm looking for a circuit that can do the right "transformation" so to say. Maybe it should something with an op amp. I do have plenty of TLC271 (is offset programmable TL071) in my junkbox, or use something else. Hopefully someone comes along with a schematic. Finally it doesn't have to be a circuit with very precise measuring, but a rough indication +/- 50W would be nice. Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202458522626849138 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d622fc14c50cbef95ef7b4176acc073f87292868 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs25508wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.47.4 with SMTP id u4mr631678nfu; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2497161nfa.2006.05.04.07.43.27; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbezT-0005fT-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 15:39:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbezS-0005fK-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 15:39:38 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbgQ8-0003AO-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 17:11:21 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FbeyO-0006d8-03; Thu, 04 May 2006 16:38:32 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bKV5t2ZQZeuj0rD3YCEeEan55yCHbgRv2+B9VDiBXavr31bOTTK1gz@[84.133.120.47]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FbeyB-0yPG7M0; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:38:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:38:18 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1639761660.20060504163818@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bKV5t2ZQZeuj0rD3YCEeEan55yCHbgRv2+B9VDiBXavr31bOTTK1gz X-TOI-MSGID: 41d352be-b7fe-4b7e-8033-6cd1fc325f2e X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.844 Subject: LF: T/A May, 3/4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5528 Copied VO1NA (QRSS30) 23:55-03:30, WD2XES 02:50-03:30 and WD2XGJ 00:50-03:20 last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203206729102492621 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2cae97761be043c8efcfcf60965f74615f2b75fb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs49642wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 13:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.108.27 with SMTP id k27mr1999806ugm; Fri, 12 May 2006 13:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y7si1212803ugc.2006.05.12.13.55.54; Fri, 12 May 2006 13:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeedG-00038x-9T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 21:53:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeedF-00038o-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 21:53:05 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FegYR-0008GP-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:56:30 +0100 Received: from 88-106-193-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.193.172]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2006 21:51:43 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAF6RZESIfyw Received: from 88-106-193-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.193.172]:1044 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Feebu-000NJg-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:51:42 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:51:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.813,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: DI2BO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5535 Hi Geri & LF, Signal visible here from dusk in NW UK. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202170415350720176 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b617845ff5f1559c21bff8b50bdd0e635bcc28ce Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs8530wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.199.16 with SMTP id w16mr1908738nff; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si3011560nfc.2006.05.01.08.39.55; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaaSv-0000Vi-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 16:37:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaaSu-0000VZ-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 16:37:36 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FacJq-00043k-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 18:36:40 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 3872 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 17:37:12 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 1 May 2006 17:37:12 +0200 Message-ID: <44562B25.4080009@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 17:37:09 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003801c66d06$1b843b80$36e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <003801c66d06$1b843b80$36e8fc3e@g3kev> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO AS2=NO(0.733335) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.111,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=1.485,RAZOR2_CHECK=0.15 Subject: Re: LF: SP0TPAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5542 Hello Mal, hamilton mal wrote: > Hi Marek > > QSL our QSO on 30-4-06 / 1601z QRS 3 you were solid O copy all the way. Hpe > to qso agn maybe cw next time. > > TX antenna vertical system and RX 80m vert loop E/W > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > QSL the QSO, it was perfect, no problems to copy at all. I use a vertical antenna for both transmitting and receiving, the vertical part is ca. 15 meters high, and the top-load consists of almost 200m of wire. I hope for the CW QSO as well, though last times Chayka is causing lots of clicking here. I suspect this to be the Slonim transmitter, which is only 288 km from KO02pf. Probably it would have been much better, if I used a loop antenna for reception, with the ability to null out the clicking. You can have a look at how your signal appeared here at http://br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl/~sp5zcc1/argo/capt01435.jpg (and the following files). 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202170415350720176 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1bce02daef694819124132becf3fff0036d5a66e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs7437wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.6 with SMTP id s6mr419599nfl; Mon, 01 May 2006 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si2818260nfb.2006.05.01.07.50.23; Mon, 01 May 2006 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaZhA-0000Fy-Mb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 15:48:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaZhA-0000Fj-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 15:48:16 +0100 Received: from smtpout0147.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.147] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fab6O-0000cy-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 17:18:28 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.117) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 4448A14A000FED16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 1 May 2006 14:46:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c66d2e$02879140$75e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:40:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.057 Subject: LF: SP0TPAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5543 Hi Merek. QSL our QSO 30/4/06 at 1601z on 137.7 khz, ur rpt solid O copy qrs 3. Tx ant vert system and Rx 80 m vert loop E/W 73 and tnx agn de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202170415350720176 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 06f773a7497ea8ea4900cd19d4d2a2162ce8bf90 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1844wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 03:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.7 with SMTP id 7mr1033859nfn; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si1068115nfc.2006.05.01.03.24.08; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaVYX-0007UL-Vn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:23:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaVYX-0007UC-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:23:05 +0100 Received: from smtpout0187.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.187] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaXPR-00023q-FL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:22:04 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.54) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 4448A0E6001027F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 1 May 2006 10:00:43 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c66d06$1b843b80$36e8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:00:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.013 Subject: LF: SP0TPAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5544 Hi Marek QSL our QSO on 30-4-06 / 1601z QRS 3 you were solid O copy all the way. Hpe to qso agn maybe cw next time. TX antenna vertical system and RX 80m vert loop E/W 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202708476359604055 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4f727175ff1e6af8f16f4a4efebe4d0410437738 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs279wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 04:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.34.18 with SMTP id m18mr393248nfj; Sun, 07 May 2006 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si973301nfb.2006.05.07.04.29.53; Sun, 07 May 2006 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FchQn-0008CV-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:28:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FchQm-0008CM-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:28:08 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcjJs-0001Ts-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 14:29:27 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FchQS-0003rE-Kt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 13:27:48 +0200 Received: from www16.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.197]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1FchQS-0001P3-Ix for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 13:27:48 +0200 Received: from www-data by www16.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.60 1 (Panther_1)) id 1FchQR-0007xY-Lw for ; Sun, 07 May 2006 13:27:47 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 84.134.187.227 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 13:27:47 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.404,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.843,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime propagation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=b_01_8a8542f66bb86d2aa6d1b10a729a2eb6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5546 --b_01_8a8542f66bb86d2aa6d1b10a729a2eb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">= MessageHi Jose and group,

Confirmed... g= ood propagation this morning, EA1PX was "M" initially and "O" copy a bit la= ter.

Also IK5ZPV was strong in northern DL; good enough for HELL mod= e.

Oh yes of course DI2BO is very strong here on a piece of wire (57= 9) but the Peine -> Spenge path is no real DX for a 5-watt signal ;-)
Best regards,
 Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U JO42FD

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Gesendet: So 07 Mai 2006 = 10:56:42 CEST
Von: "Jose Manuel"<jpradoes@telefonica.net>
Hello all
 
Signals, at least in the 1800 km = range, are=20 better than in past week, I copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is= =20 stronger as well.
 
73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX


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=0A=0A --b_01_8a8542f66bb86d2aa6d1b10a729a2eb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jose and group,=0A=0AConfirmed... good propagation this morning, EA1PX w= as "M" initially and "O" copy a bit later.=0A=0AAlso IK5ZPV was strong in n= orthern DL; good enough for HELL mode.=0A=0AOh yes of course DI2BO is very = strong here on a piece of wire (579) but the Peine -> Spenge path is no rea= l DX for a 5-watt signal ;-)=0A=0ABest regards,=0A Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U JO42F= D=0A=0A----- original Nachricht --------=0A=0ABetreff: LF: Daytime propagat= ion=0AGesendet: So 07 Mai 2006 10:56:42 CEST=0AVon: "Jose Manuel"=0A=0AHello all Signals, at least in the 1800 km range, are = better than in past week, I copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is = stronger as well. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX=0A=0A--- original Nachricht Ende ----= =0A=0A"Jetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier klicken"= =0Ahttp://www.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --b_01_8a8542f66bb86d2aa6d1b10a729a2eb6-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202708476359604055 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1b2ee9bfae41801151cfe1b33e93c68f1ff9bca7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs55709wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 01:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.32.4 with SMTP id k4mr331082nfj; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si849037nfc.2006.05.07.01.56.23; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcf1o-0007B4-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 09:54:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fcf1o-0007Av-74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 09:54:12 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcgTq-0004qh-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 11:27:18 +0100 Received: from PC2 (88.11.142.57) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 445D389100001B34 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 7 May 2006 10:50:55 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c671b3$55c36030$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:50:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Daytime propagation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C671C4.18D50460" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5547 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C671C4.18D50460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all Signals, at least in the 1800 km range, are better than in past week, I = copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is stronger as well. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C671C4.18D50460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all
 
Signals, at least in the 1800 km = range, are=20 better than in past week, I copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF = is=20 stronger as well.
 
73 de Jos=E9, = EA1PX
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C671C4.18D50460-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202421604523656249 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f2f00b16153872b7b8bb3846631d45a5ebffd48a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs23406wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.68.8 with SMTP id v8mr312854nfk; Thu, 04 May 2006 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si4882983nfc.2006.05.04.06.28.23; Thu, 04 May 2006 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbdoW-0005Pw-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 14:24:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbdoV-0005Pn-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 14:24:15 +0100 Received: from smtp17.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.111]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbfFB-0002XZ-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 15:55:57 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE818700008D for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 15:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-58.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-58.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.58]) by mwinf1709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1B1567000093 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 15:24:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060504132401111.1B1567000093@mwinf1709.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 15:23:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4459890F.3020306@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <4459890F.3020306@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.656 Subject: Re: LF: T/A the last night VO1NA , WD2XES and WD2XGJ Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1390395394-1146747292=:15789" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5548 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1390395394-1146747292=:15789 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Here, in my geological hole, only traces of XGJ abt 1 hour around 0100z,= =20 and even so pleased of that ! 73 ! F5YG On Thu, 4 May 2006, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > > Hi all on the list ! > The last night I copy: > > VO1NA > 00:00 to 04:30 > WD2XGJ > 01:00 to 03:30 > WD2XES > 02:00 to 04:30 > > the captures of the night are on : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > > > > > > --8323328-1390395394-1146747292=:15789-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202421604523656249 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ca5cb9c38b594d36f7be6fcc7f1113b07d77d22a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs13222wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.246.9 with SMTP id t9mr339975nfh; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si4281950nfa.2006.05.03.21.56.40; Wed, 03 May 2006 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbVrY-0004OI-82 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 05:54:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbVrS-0004O9-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 05:54:46 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbXHw-0008Tw-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:26:17 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC336D529 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 06:54:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4459890F.3020306@online.fr> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 06:54:39 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)))) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.892 Subject: LF: T/A the last night VO1NA , WD2XES and WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5549 Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy: VO1NA > 00:00 to 04:30 WD2XGJ > 01:00 to 03:30 WD2XES > 02:00 to 04:30 the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202284027668196902 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9f98024fa9c91210cc413003c4f81ddc4761da79 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs603wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 09:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.88.10 with SMTP id q10mr202128nfl; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si4032414nfc.2006.05.02.09.29.57; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Faxhu-0007h3-Af for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 17:26:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Faxht-0007gu-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 17:26:37 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Faz7d-0007i5-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 18:57:22 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter98.comcast.net ([204.127.197.198]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060502162540m11005dr0ne>; Tue, 2 May 2006 16:25:45 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter98.comcast.net; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:28:06 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 16:28:06 +0000 Message-Id: <050220061628.1593.44578896000490B00000063922135753330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.840,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Reports X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5550 Hello the list, Thanks to Jean-Pierre F5YG, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, Laurie G3AQC, Roelof PA0RDT, Markus DF6NM, Hartmut, and Ted KC3OL for the reports and captures. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202630652654642315 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1b5529cfecf6198f680967dd38a37fc21149382d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs39705wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.236.2 with SMTP id n2mr299796qbr; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si460163qba.2006.05.06.10.35.30; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcQfB-0002X5-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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boundary=Message-Boundary-28043 Subject: Re: LF: Loran off-air, or has may aerial fallen down? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5559 --Message-Boundary-28043 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body > Rugby Loran appeared to go off-air at about 1149UTC today. Everything > is suspiciously quiet, except for QRN crashes. It is still off as of > 1209UTC. Or has my aerial fallen down? > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Yes, Loran went off today for several short periods. The attached screenshot shows the effect here. The band was so quiet that I put out some CW calls but no-one replied. 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<914520175.20060506110859@t-online.de> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.348,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Loran off-air, or has may aerial fallen down? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C6710F.7F986620" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5560 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C6710F.7F986620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF. Rugby Loran appeared to go off-air at about 1149UTC today. Everything is suspiciously quiet, except for QRN crashes. It is still off as of 1209UTC. 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The last night Only copy VO1NA the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202938014398823926 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b36b8ebac339dcce8476ce5e6f80ad566bf0aae0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs10892wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.19 with SMTP id y19mr30271nfi; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si23213nfb.2006.05.10.14.09.50; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdvr6-0003CV-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:04:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdvr5-0003CM-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:04:23 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdxlT-0007Z8-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:07:01 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.49.71.189) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 445D3891000922C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 23:04:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c67475$3d4deab0$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <967321886.20060509172025@t-online.de> <44624783.1010300@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:03:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: EA1PX...report Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5573 Hi Wolf Very nice ligthning map, thanks a lot. As you can see, there is some=20 lightning activity near here. 73 de Jos=E9, Ea1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: EA1PX...report > Hi Valerio, > > Don't despair - its just the old WX machine which is not very kind to=20 > Italians at the moment. Just look at this map to see what I mean: > > http://www.wetteronline.de/eurobli.htm > > (it's an online lightning locator map, german site, but covers most of=20 > western EU too). > > Best regards, > Wolf DL4YHF > > P.S. Many thanks for the QRSS / Hellscheiber QSO with DK4U lately ! > > > > valerio gabbani schrieb: > >> 2006/5/9, Dave G3WCB : >> >>> Jose, LF, >>> >>> EA1PX "O" to "M" copy QRSS3 137,703 here this evening at 2130utc, plu= s=20 >>> some >>> static crashes. >>> >>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff >>> Sent: 09 May 2006 16:20 >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 >>> >>> >>> No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and >>> saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than >>> appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. >>> From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA >>> 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 >>> and then one in QRSS30. >>> >>> Captures can be seen here: >>> >>> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> Hartmut >>> www.h-wolff.de >>> Locator: JO52hp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> The only one within europe cannot see anything from EA1PX seems to be = I=20 >> !! >> >> Last evening i was listening but nothing appeared between the crashes= =2E >> >> May be another Italian anomaly ? >> >> This evening i wil try again wid the aid of Cesare I5TGC . >> >> >> '73 >> >> IK5ZPV, Valerio >> >> >> > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202938014398823926 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 200d7552f667876eb99f0e5e4afbe96a611ad2f2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs8849wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.218.20 with SMTP id q20mr918836nfg; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si5064855nfe.2006.05.10.13.10.04; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fduwp-0002tK-VM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 21:06:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fduwp-0002tB-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 21:06:15 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdwQY-0006FP-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:41:06 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fduvm-0004bb-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:05:10 +0200 Received: from p5486aaf5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.170.245] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1Fduvm-0000Rr-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:05:10 +0200 Message-ID: <44624783.1010300@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 20:05:23 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <967321886.20060509172025@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.927 Subject: Re: LF: EA1PX...report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5574 Hi Valerio, Don't despair - its just the old WX machine which is not very kind to Italians at the moment. Just look at this map to see what I mean: http://www.wetteronline.de/eurobli.htm (it's an online lightning locator map, german site, but covers most of western EU too). Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF P.S. Many thanks for the QRSS / Hellscheiber QSO with DK4U lately ! valerio gabbani schrieb: > 2006/5/9, Dave G3WCB : > >> Jose, LF, >> >> EA1PX "O" to "M" copy QRSS3 137,703 here this evening at 2130utc, >> plus some >> static crashes. >> >> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff >> Sent: 09 May 2006 16:20 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 >> >> >> No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and >> saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than >> appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. >> From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA >> 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 >> and then one in QRSS30. >> >> Captures can be seen here: >> >> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm >> >> >> 73 >> Hartmut >> www.h-wolff.de >> Locator: JO52hp >> >> >> >> > > The only one within europe cannot see anything from EA1PX seems to be > I !! > > Last evening i was listening but nothing appeared between the crashes. > > May be another Italian anomaly ? > > This evening i wil try again wid the aid of Cesare I5TGC . > > > '73 > > IK5ZPV, Valerio > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202938014398823926 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d3625e74ac8dbf7107b8b83f9b04758b08cd257f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20765wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.22.9 with SMTP id z9mr539829nfi; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si4624324nfe.2006.05.10.05.28.31; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdnid-0001di-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:23:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdnic-0001dZ-BF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:23:06 +0100 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdpCB-0003qE-P3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:57:47 +0100 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1687477nzf for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:22:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IOBaIXPCrhS2LJC85GsOODAWqD/j88CyHN4kMVRTXGANZs1dHqCyU4HtO+O9JnQm8/YSp2AKN/wriX6o7mlHSxn6MaG8/nMKS7F7CU7UsxBLifT74DKLy8G+q75UqKpTAdzSb0QYUQLFzKTJ2bcVzI4ik9G304cKDwv9kL5J8yM= Received: by 10.65.213.12 with SMTP id p12mr291320qbq; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.114.20 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2006 05:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:21:59 +0200 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <967321886.20060509172025@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.416,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: Re: LF: EA1PX...report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5575 2006/5/9, Dave G3WCB : > Jose, LF, > > EA1PX "O" to "M" copy QRSS3 137,703 here this evening at 2130utc, plus so= me > static crashes. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff > Sent: 09 May 2006 16:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 > > > No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and > saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than > appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. > From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA > 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 > and then one in QRSS30. > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > > > The only one within europe cannot see anything from EA1PX seems to be I !! Last evening i was listening but nothing appeared between the crashes. May be another Italian anomaly ? This evening i wil try again wid the aid of Cesare I5TGC . '73 IK5ZPV, Valerio From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202938014398823926 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 75e9e9a1439d456de698bdf5285e2430b1d12e54 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1038wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 14:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.15 with SMTP id v15mr891735nfl; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si3788147nfc.2006.05.09.14.44.47; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdZvI-0007du-Gb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 22:39:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdZvI-0007dl-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 22:39:16 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdbpI-0004tP-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 00:41:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 74485 invoked from network); 9 May 2006 21:38:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.201.123 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2006 21:38:51 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 22:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <967321886.20060509172025@t-online.de> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.095,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: EA1PX...report Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5576 Jose, LF, EA1PX "O" to "M" copy QRSS3 137,703 here this evening at 2130utc, plus some static crashes. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 09 May 2006 16:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. >From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 and then one in QRSS30. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203023511697324072 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0f47a7822ae0e04d0427cf64138ca2d59df89bc8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs12290wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.9 with SMTP id g9mr77809nfj; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si72109nfc.2006.05.10.15.04.15; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdwkf-0003R7-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 23:01:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdwkf-0003Qy-EF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 23:01:49 +0100 Received: from mxout01.versatel.de ([212.7.152.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdyER-0006yL-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:36:43 +0100 Received: from mx02.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4AM1hRJ002893 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:01:44 +0200 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx02.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4AM1hWm028921 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:01:43 +0200 Received: from i577a4557.versanet.de (i577a4557.versanet.de [87.122.69.87]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:01:43 +0200 Message-ID: <20060511000143.q57i7sssizkg0kcc@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:01:43 +0200 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.960,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Transmissions with the SAQ transmitter on 17,2 kHz (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5584 Zitat von Wolf DL4YHF : > Greetings all, > > just received this message directly, and thought it may be > interesting for some readers here. > Time to blow off the dust from the mechanic VLF RX if you have ;-) > Hi Wolf, guess we got the message all directly. Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203023511697324072 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 501d46f7eead0a9f12564ec408a6d7464b5d68f4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs9359wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.4.19 with SMTP id 19mr353nfd; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si5052485nfe.2006.05.10.13.23.44; Wed, 10 May 2006 13:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdvBh-00030q-8P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 21:21:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdvBg-00030h-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 21:21:36 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fdx66-0007Gn-7P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 23:24:14 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.147] (helo=mx4.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FdvBQ-0002xS-7P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:21:20 +0200 Received: from p5486aaf5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.170.245] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx4.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61-RC1 #1) id 1FdvBQ-0005JJ-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:21:20 +0200 Message-ID: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 20:21:39 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.908 Subject: LF: Transmissions with the SAQ transmitter on 17,2 kHz (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5585 Greetings all, just received this message directly, and thought it may be interesting for some readers here. Time to blow off the dust from the mechanic VLF RX if you have ;-) -------------- *GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ INFORMATION* There will be transmissions with the Grimeton Radio/SAQ alternator on VLF 17,2 kHz on the following dates: 1. May 16th at about 09:30-10:30 UTC 2. May 17th at about 09:30-10:30 UTC 3. May 18th at about 09:30-10:30 UTC 4. June 5th at 10:00 UTC 5. July 2nd. The "Alexanderson" Day. Call you back with time schedule. No QSL reports are required except on the July 2nd transmission. Regards Lars Kalland/SM6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202549498550729742 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f927e168b409d48c4bc73f10ebdc25efbfcf1cc5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs9436wra; Fri, 5 May 2006 07:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.23.20 with SMTP id a20mr863420nfj; Fri, 05 May 2006 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si3311727nfe.2006.05.05.07.49.29; Fri, 05 May 2006 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fc1Xb-0007os-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 15:44:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fc1Xa-0007oj-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 15:44:22 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fc3Q0-00031f-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 17:44:58 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Fc1WJ-0007ca-03; Fri, 05 May 2006 16:43:03 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Gn32b8ZUweIH86lRkiKGOnUGMwOx-tBlhWtaM0sFsY+AnI3Gm6X2ZK@[84.133.123.116]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Fc1W4-0EtOEK0; Fri, 5 May 2006 16:42:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 16:42:44 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <224184163.20060505164244@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Gn32b8ZUweIH86lRkiKGOnUGMwOx-tBlhWtaM0sFsY+AnI3Gm6X2ZK X-TOI-MSGID: 83b71716-0b4a-4656-b329-4f70bc6dbc3b X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.904 Subject: LF: T/A May, 4/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5604 Copied VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204929438935159105 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1903c6ed279e417e55c43b92f90d3f79aeb21ed4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs41333wra; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.30.18 with SMTP id h18mr883808nfj; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si508069nfe.2006.05.31.14.17.38; Wed, 31 May 2006 14:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlY0t-0002qL-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:13:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlY0t-0002qC-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:13:59 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FlY0p-0006oR-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:13:59 +0100 Received: from 88-106-217-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.217.142]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 31 May 2006 21:52:59 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAGedfUSHH4IxLA Received: from 88-106-217-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.217.142]:2098 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FlXbD-0009uk-0D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 21:47:27 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:53:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.917,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5605 Hi Andy, Loaded PSK31 DeLuxe & got this at 2046z transmission tonight. G4JNT ( IO9�Il DDS generated PSK31rest beacon 196�kHz.tt Using Mini-Whip signal is much stronger than loaded 160M vertical. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp - Chorley, Lancashire, UK. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Andy Talbot Sent: 29 May 2006 16:37 To: LF Group Cc: API(Work); API(Home); WKL; Alan Melia Subject: LF: Experimental MF Beacon test I am currently testing a low power experimental beacon on 1960.000kHz +/- 1Hz. It uses a transmission format similar to that of the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL/WES and ORK, execpt that the sounder sequence is replaced by a PSK31 message. The sequence transmitted is : T+0s CW Callsign T+7 - T+15s Nine power steps with the output reduced by 6dB each time for a total of -48dB T+16 - T+24 A repeat of the power steps. T+25 - T+30 Full power (level measurement reference period) T+30 - T+47 PSK31 data T+47 - T+59 Full power The reference time T starts at one minute past the hour and repeats every 15 minutes, so transmissions occur at 01, 16, 31 and 46 minutes past the hour. If the 'GB3RAL' monitoring software is used for logging this signal, the transmission will be shown and recorded as if it were that from GB3WES. The transmissions will continue overnight, and will hopefully be switched on for subsequent evening & overnight runs. Power output is 3Watts to my 7m high Tee antenna - esimated gain -9dBd The beacon hardware consists of an identical DDS and PIC controller to that used on GB3VHF, although without the GPS locking; frequency is derived from a TCXO alone. A Motorola Oncore GPS module controls timing. Completely new PIC software uses the 12 bits of amplitude control possible within the AD9852 DDS chip to generate the power steps directly rather than having to use a separate programmable attenuator as was done for the 5MHz beacons. The PSK31 envelope is directly generaed at RF by looking up 250 half-sinewave amplitude values for each 31.25 baud symbol at a sampling rate of 7812.5Hz. Full details of both the 5MHz beacon designs and the driver for GB3VHF can be found on the website below Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 2006-05-28 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202251598902948911 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 57abaa1e9b72d21f93b1cb6c131845e1a88fa9bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs7578wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 06:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.16 with SMTP id o16mr521813nfh; Tue, 02 May 2006 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si2789424nfc.2006.05.02.06.38.37; Tue, 02 May 2006 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FauxM-0006dR-3I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 14:30:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FauxL-0006dI-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 14:30:23 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FawMv-0006m5-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:01:04 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.242.a6fc819 (15877) for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 09:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mblk-d32 (mblk-d32.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.216]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-3e0544575ed93e; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:30:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 09:30:11 -0400 Message-Id: <8C83C03ABEA8830-1464-59AB@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> From: markusvester@aol.com References: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <4456F629.4050400@online.fr> <000901c66dbc$e439a4a0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Received: from 217.194.34.119 by mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.216) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 02 May 2006 09:30:10 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <000901c66dbc$e439a4a0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 17385 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.216 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.933,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: T/A May 2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MailBlocks_8C83C03AB9BDA75_1464_5EC5_mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5617 ----------MailBlocks_8C83C03AB9BDA75_1464_5EC5_mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Warren and Joe, copied XGJ "O" quality between 1:30 and 4, VO1NA "M" from 1 to 4 UT. 73 de Markus, DF6NM ----------MailBlocks_8C83C03AB9BDA75_1464_5EC5_mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Warren and Joe,
 
copied XGJ "O" quality between 1:30 and 4, VO1NA "M" from 1 to 4 UT.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
 
----------MailBlocks_8C83C03AB9BDA75_1464_5EC5_mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202251598902948911 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 40dc4f598ae09ef8dbbd04d8b4c9fe695c77a8cf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs989wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 00:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.239.19 with SMTP id m19mr298594nfh; Tue, 02 May 2006 00:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si33414nfa.2006.05.02.00.54.30; Tue, 02 May 2006 00:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fapej-00059F-Jc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:50:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fapej-000596-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:50:49 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FarVx-0001zn-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 10:50:08 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:12872 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FapdE-000KIg-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 07:49:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c66dbc$e439a4a0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <4456F629.4050400@online.fr> Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 09:49:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.097 Subject: LF: T/A May 2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C66DCD.A780D7C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5618 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C66DCD.A780D7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Last night the band was quite noisy in the Netherlands. At daytime the (relative) noise level is between - 100 and -105 dBm on the meter of my SPM-30. This night the noise was 10 to 15 dB stronger, but disappeared an hour before local sunrise. This indicates that the noise comes from the east. However the lightning map for Europe was very quiet, with only a few spots over Turkey and Northern Africa, south of Spain. The latter at about 1800 km away. Good copy of XGJ and NA. 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(v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1779031882.20060512215823@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.584,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5621 Mike and LF enthusiasts, 12-05-2006, 20:33 MSK(+3 GMT), G3XDV wrote: MD> I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a MD> large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope MD> (from B&Q). I use polypropylene rope for all Big TX Verticals since spring of 2002 (on LF DXexpeditions to UA9-UA0 also) - rope diameter from 3 up to 5mm with a copper wire from 0.5 up to 2mm on rope Length of a rope of the aerial sometimes achieved 400 meters MD> The rope shows signs of deterioration - presumably from UV - and I MD> wonder whether I would be better using white polyprop, or nylon, MD> rather than blue polyprop. My first aerial with 5�� (abt 400m long from 135m tower to 8m down) of a orange polypropylene rope has sustained 3 years (3 winters). I believe that the main enemy for polypropylene rope is UV and the durability of a wire is not influenced by his colour (I used also blue and white ropes also made in Turkey or China) Though in R6L there is one more enemy - look last photo of my 5mm rope on http://136.73.ru/news/2005/jan/black.htm MD> Nylon is a lot more expensive - is it worthwhile? I understand than MD> nylon is stretchy - is this a problem? Does nylon have a similar MD> breaking strength - the antenna is lightweight but takes some wind- MD> load and in any case I don't want any accidents, so over-engineering MD> is the order of the day. Nylon or kapron(I do not know as is precisely written on english) resist to UV better, but have the greater lengthening at loading at an identical diameters I believe best to apply an aramid rope (2..3mm - identical KEVLAR Du-Pont), but it very expensive 2mm aramid rope - 290kg break - 4% - abt 0.5USD/meter in RU 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191022351354151 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 59cb5a22a7abaf44f4ccfcb6316dace3f61c8148 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs42220wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.21.7 with SMTP id 7mr556060huu; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 37si1971247hub.2006.05.12.09.46.14; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feaea-0001uf-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:38:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feaea-0001uW-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:38:12 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48] helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FecZc-0005jB-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 19:41:32 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060512163401.SCKZ29040.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:34:01 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060512163401.HIDM16086.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:34:01 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:33:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.621,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Rope? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5622 I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope (from B&Q). The rope shows signs of deterioration - presumably from UV - and I wonder whether I would be better using white polyprop, or nylon, rather than blue polyprop. Nylon is a lot more expensive - is it worthwhile? I understand than nylon is stretchy - is this a problem? Does nylon have a similar breaking strength - the antenna is lightweight but takes some wind- load and in any case I don't want any accidents, so over-engineering is the order of the day. Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? Mike, G3XDV =========== http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202336264279692890 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5ababc021dc1a284b63cba117e78a2194f7289cb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs19569wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 23:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.23.9 with SMTP id a9mr125235nfj; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si1065834nfe.2006.05.02.23.20.13; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbAfb-00014P-3e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:17:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbAfX-00014G-Hj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:17:03 +0100 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbC5Z-0002lT-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:48:05 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B929AAA7 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 08:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44584AD8.2040100@online.fr> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 08:16:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3)) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.913 Subject: LF: T/A the last night : WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5624 Hi all on the list ! The last night good copy " WD2XGJ " Also copy trace of " VO1NA" The captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202170089637707890 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 82f7602de4ee1df4c45b0dcccbc026d2832b0528 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1769wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 03:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.238.5 with SMTP id l5mr1214353nfh; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si1067921nfe.2006.05.01.03.18.58; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaVTB-0007Lp-M8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:17:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaVTB-0007Lg-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:17:33 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaWsJ-0000xN-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:47:39 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-71-234-114-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[71.234.114.84]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006050110171601200mfr5ae>; Mon, 1 May 2006 10:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 06:17:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.093 Subject: LF: Re: T/A and EU signals Apr, 30/May, 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5625 Thanks to Hartmut and Jean-Pierre for the reports...got a late start last night - about 0230Z. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:50 AM Subject: LF: T/A and EU signals Apr, 30/May, 1 > Copied VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS. On the WD2XNS signal appeared > a lot of fading. > > Again a lot of activity on 137.7 kHz last night. Very good reception > of IK5ZPV and RU6LA. > > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202757669086563542 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 79491d21f2b321961b52f32e78c7a257ac351c6c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs13024wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.218.20 with SMTP id q20mr696367nfg; Sun, 07 May 2006 14:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si1431976nfe.2006.05.07.14.58.17; Sun, 07 May 2006 14:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcrCd-0002Em-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 22:54:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcrCc-0002Ed-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 22:54:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fct5t-0006L8-P4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 00:55:39 +0100 Received: from PC2 (81.38.66.20) by ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 445D38C20000E1F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 7 May 2006 23:56:18 +0200 Message-ID: <004b01c67220$b4cb2550$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: References: <000e01c671b3$55c36030$2201a8c0@PC2> <000b01c671ba$4e39bba0$28487ad5@lark> Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 23:53:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Daytime propagation Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5631 Hi Alan and all Unfortunately for me I had to go out at 09.45 UTC, after my QSO with DK4U= ,=20 and couldn=B4t try to make more contacts. At that time the DCF=B4s field strength here was 41dB(uV/m). 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX, IN53ti ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: LF: Re: Daytime propagation > Hi Jose, thanks for that information. I expected that day-time conditio= ns > would improve after the recent magnetic storms for probably a couple of > days. Under geomagnetically quiet conditions daytime paths have been > depressed compared with levels during the periods of higher solar X-ra= y > flux. It happened right in time for weekend activity too !! > > Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK > Prop reports at > www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose Manuel > To: > Sent: 07 May 2006 09:50 > Subject: LF: Daytime propagation > > > Hello all > > Signals, at least in the 1800 km range, are better than in past week, I= =20 > copy > here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is stronger as well. > > 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203662209482249169 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bc5284b0c208b2d6a7862e0912f96c7274283fd6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs97355wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.64.20 with SMTP id r20mr1122147nfk; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si113032nfc.2006.05.17.14.35.34; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FgTeM-0005eD-KA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:33:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FgTeM-0005e4-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:33:46 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgVbM-0007KR-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:39:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 30893 invoked from network); 17 May 2006 21:33:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.129.158 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2006 21:33:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c679f9$864f4f40$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:33:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.908 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5633 Hi Gary thats very odd it must be your ISP. I clicked you link below at 2230BST and the page came up immediately even on my dial-up. I wonder if your ISP is on a blacklist ?? Do you have any trouble with other sites?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: Sent: 17 May 2006 22:05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air > Hi Alan, > > Still no joy, can't even get www.npl.co.uk even tried re-starting PC. I have > tried several times today. > > 73 > > Gary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 17 May 2006 19:43 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: MSF off the air > > > Hi Gary, Mmmm I dunno it worked for me (clicked on the line below) at 1940 > BST so it must have been busy when you tried > > Cheers de Alan > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203003579358270684 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3e577bbe2a64e1992e1c1ad63b8645a1e4eacdd2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs25970wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.49.16 with SMTP id b16mr691208nfk; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si4547430nfc.2006.05.10.08.06.55; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdq9V-00024n-Vl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:59:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdq9V-00024e-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:59:01 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fds3n-0004dr-9h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 18:01:33 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Fdq9C-0004WT-01; Wed, 10 May 2006 16:58:42 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rwWjPUZv8eoF1eZO-HXISS1ke2xQEFcYTVN0vlHR8UtWA90hQLnZcj@[84.133.95.63]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Fdq92-06np1U0; Wed, 10 May 2006 16:58:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 16:58:29 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <85289878.20060510165829@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rwWjPUZv8eoF1eZO-HXISS1ke2xQEFcYTVN0vlHR8UtWA90hQLnZcj X-TOI-MSGID: 939e0669-f2f8-4181-94c8-1a6a8764d5f2 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.885 Subject: LF: T/A and EA1PX May, 9/10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5635 Again good signal from VO1NA 00:00-03:30 last night. From XGJ I captured only a strong "J" 02:40-02:50 and only traces 01:40-02:40. Good "O" copy of some CQ's from Jos�, EA1PX here, but not so strong as the night before. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203385428772823360 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 27a57105cde5e87f9fe21ce2a73ca0c48ec4ac51 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6515wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.49.14 with SMTP id b14mr1698487nfk; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si9810323nfe.2006.05.14.13.16.15; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMz7-0002Lp-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:14:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMz7-0002Lg-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:14:37 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfOUn-0003Lp-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:51:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 21558 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 2006 20:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.70]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 May 2006 20:14:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c67791$b365e300$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:58:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.959,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: 'meter problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5636 Hello all, I almost finished my new 136kHz transmitter, and after several hours of fault-finding it seems to work upto 600-700Watt DC input. However, I do have a 'problem' .......... Instead of using a 200uA meter for the forward and returned power, I'm using a 10mA meter. This 10mA meter needs 53mV for full scale, internal resistance somewhere around 6 Ohm. When I put this meter into the G0MRF design it is a to heavy load for the measurement circuit. Open voltage drops from 13V to almost 0 V due to the low internal resistamce. This also effects the SWR protection circuit........ So, I did some experiments by using a FET or transistor as a driver for the meter. The measurment circuit voltage is almost not effected by the meter circuit now, however it is very difficult to find a good setpoint for the meter....... i.e when doubling the power, the meter must read also twice the power. Somehow I'm not able to get the right linearity or what ever. Anyone out there with a circuit diagram that does work? or suggestions. It is difficult to exchange the meter because I cannot easily reach the mountingscrews anymore..... So I have to use this 10mA meter........ 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202133328656530781 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 551cdde38ec8ad82638148999edc2dfeef5d4dac Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs13492wra; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.238.20 with SMTP id l20mr761990nfh; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si697841nfc.2006.04.30.17.34.39; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaMJQ-0004Ya-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:30:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaMJP-0004YR-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:30:51 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaOA6-0006Ny-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:29:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 94938 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2006 23:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.132.209 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2006 23:29:25 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 00:30:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4454a4a9bf8d2@wp.pl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.571,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=1.485,RAZOR2_CHECK=0.15 Subject: LF: SP0TPAX :- report Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C66CB6.78FA8710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5661 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C66CB6.78FA8710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Marek, LF group, SP0TPAX signals "M" > "O" copy QRSS3 tonight at 2320 UTC. Screenshot attached. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Marek Przybyszewski Sent: 30 April 2006 12:51 To: rsgb_lf_group Subject: LF: SP0TPAX Dear LFers, SP0TPAX will be active until the end of today, with some possible breaks for the lunch etc. In December the callsign was activated to commemorate the first confirmed, international amateur QSO made from Poland by Tadeusz Heftman on December 6th, 1925. He was using TPAX callsign then. The other station was N0PM (in the Netherlands :) The April activity is to commemorate 80th anniversary of the first intercontinental amateur QSO made by the same man with an American station U1AAO. The grabber is active all the time at http://br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl/~sp5zcc1/argo/?C=M;O=D . As you can notice, this morning Chayka was very loud, which made CW QSOs impossible. If not that, I could have made a CW QSO with OK2BVG, who reported my signal to be 25dB over noise. Yesterday I heard RU6LA's signal more than 10dB over noise, however I had to TX using QRSS10 for the QSO to complete... I am not sure about yesterday QSO with M0BMU, I sent a 'T' report however I didn't receive any confirmation. It would be great if we could repeat it today, maybe slower than QRSS3 if necessary. If I have time, I will be active on Monday as well, this time using the usual SP5ZCC call. 73! 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(v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1884255674.20060501134704@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: <120992992.20060429153823@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.773,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RU6LA acty Apr 29-30 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------27AD13F16FF2AD7" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5663 ------------27AD13F16FF2AD7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF enthusiasts, in my opinion the ppropagation in R6L was bad on Apr 29-30 though I RX and work UA0AET at Apr 29 in first time (QRB=3731km) UA0AET's signal was quite good, but has decreased after 1740z and has disappeared after 19z - sunset in R6L abt 1630z (on argopics AET's report "LA O UA0..." - pick on "O" abt 1720z in 30s mode) Apr 29 I have made 2 new rare calls: SP0TPAX (the signal him was in the beginning only on � in 3s mode!) and R20CH (20 years of Chernobyl tragedy) All European signals were very weak both days, as well as level DCF39. Sometimes it seemed that at me not in the order the RX setup, but UA4WPF's signals level (QRB=1417km to NNE) was strong in 3s mode both days GRI QRM-lines were very insignificant (the main parameter of good propagation for me on my aperiodic beverages) Attention - I work on freq in area 137.750 only for UA4-9-0 - analogue European 137.700 but for UA As, and I listen on the 800m BOG directed to Asia (NE) For me there was by the large surprise a large difference (more 40dB) between aerials on DCF39 - on 800m BOG (NE) abt S4-5 and on 2km BOG to Europe (NW) abt S9+20 sri - agn not RX EA1PX ;-(( TNX all for reports and efforts! 73! 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New version of Winrad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5668 I have just uploaded V1.0 of Winrad. The major changes are : * ASIO buffer size different from 512 now doesn't cause any more problems * When playing back a wav file the input side of the sound card is left free * LO frequency settable for the correct display of the received frequency * High quality windowed sinc fractional resampler to cope both with non-standard sampling rates (e.g. when used with external HW that does its own digitizing, bypassing the sound card), and with sampling rate errors (very frequent) of the sound cards, that could cause buffer underflow/overflow. * Modified the AGC behavior with the introduction of a very short hang. * Denoiser slightly modified. * Support via an external DLL for the SDR-14 hardware. * Extensive use of DDT for bugs extermination. As usual, please report malfunctions, errors, strange behaviors, etc. Thanks 73 Alberto I2PHD http://www.weaksignals.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202162459229470644 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 408df8a727c07489d7121f673e8986d3b87ab2c3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs62wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 01:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.19 with SMTP id j19mr1357026nfe; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si1446511nfc.2006.05.01.01.17.40; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTZO-0006e5-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:15:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTZO-0006dw-4E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:15:50 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaVQB-00010q-Ss for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:14:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 5370 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 08:15:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.84.32?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.84.32 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2006 08:15:22 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.5.1/327]); Mon, 01 May 2006 09:13:28 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c66cf7$20c8f2c0$20547ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4454a4a9bf8d2@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 09:13:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.084 Subject: LF: Re: SP0TPAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5673 Dear Marek, LF Group, SP0TPAX was visible here on Friday evening, varying between "O" copy and nil, with deep QSB and lots of QRN. I tried calling a couple of times, but unfortunately did not copy your reply at all at my end. I was out yesterday evening, but will be around most of today if you are QRV again. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Przybyszewski To: rsgb_lf_group Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: LF: SP0TPAX ....I am not sure > about yesterday QSO with M0BMU, I sent a 'T' report however I > didn't receive any confirmation. It would be great if we could > repeat it today, maybe slower than QRSS3 if necessary. > > If I have time, I will be active on Monday as well, this time > using the usual SP5ZCC call. > > 73! Marek SQ5BPM > SP5ZCC Scouts Radio Club > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Grupa dEUS w ramach dwudniowej muzycznej imprezy > Alternation Festival #1. > http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fadv.reklama.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fdues.html&sid=7 38 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204040519626841508 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d97b6ee8646a0b0ef82504e47c96073b18fafd0b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs114702wra; Sun, 21 May 2006 18:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.33.12 with SMTP id l12mr3339655nfj; Sun, 21 May 2006 18:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si4344273nfa.2006.05.21.18.48.38; Sun, 21 May 2006 18:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FhzV1-0005MV-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:46:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FhzV0-0005MM-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:46:22 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.210]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fi14D-0003iI-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:26:53 +0100 Received: from BAY116-W1 ([64.4.38.101]) by bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 21 May 2006 18:46:11 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.92.243.140] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: "lowfer2" , "rsgb_lf_group" Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:46:11 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2006 01:46:11.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[80D81970:01C67D41] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.148,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3395df8b-7a3f-47e2-a4b4-5791a59dcd99_" Subject: LF: XDW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5681 --_3395df8b-7a3f-47e2-a4b4-5791a59dcd99_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends - I was hoping to get WD2XDW back on the air as soon as the OE= T gave the White smoke, as compared to the Blue that rises occasionally fm = this location, but it isnt to be so. All the gear is hooked up and working = and had high hopes of about 4.5 amps aerial current! =20 Sheri and I are moving to Shanghai, China for about a year, then 24 months = in Singapore with my Oil company. Today we heard officially that we are joi= ning the Bohia 2 project looking after the Tcomms interfaces side of the pr= oject. =20 So, we have to flog this house here in Bartlesville we moved into in late J= an, and put most of the stuff in storage until our return to the US in the = future. Ill attempt to take one of the rx's into China and hopefully get so= mething up (Eprobe) but I have a feeling its going to be an apartment near = the centre of the City.=20 =20 Singapore is more hopeful and as some of you know I'm often in the Malaysia= /Indonesia region and have high hopes of getting something up there. =20 Thanks for your support of the science, and I'm going to miss the dimming o= f the household lights when the Decca/hb rig does its thing, and moreover t= he reception side of the business and the surprises this fascinating part o= f the spectrum brings.=20 =20 We still may get to Africa either Ghana or Namibia in the new year LF wise,= but my Charity is closing our Coyhaique Chile base, so unfortunately we wi= ll be pulling the plug from the Eastern Andes as well....we may also be ope= rating from KL7 intermittently as we have sons still up there and weddings = pending. =20 As our OE W6 friend says "Ill be backkkk>>>" we move in less than a month. =20 Laurence Howell KL1X G4DMA WD2XDW presently also 3D2KL et al. _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx= --_3395df8b-7a3f-47e2-a4b4-5791a59dcd99_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=

Dear Friends - I was hoping to get WD2XDW back on the air as soon as the OET gave the Whit= e smoke, as compared to the Blue that rises occasionally = fm this location, but it isnt to be so. All the ge= ar is hooked up and working and had high hopes of about 4.5 amps aerial cur= rent!

 

Sheri and I are moving to Shanghai, China for about a= year, then 24 months in Singapore with my Oil company. Today we heard officially that we are joining the Bohia 2 project looking after the= Tcomms interfaces side of the p= roject.

 

So, we have to flog this house here in Bartlesville we moved into in late Jan, and put most of the stuff in storage until= our return to the US in the future. Ill attempt to take one of the rx's into China and hopefully get something up (Eprobe) but I have a feeling its going to be an <= FONT class=3D"" >apartment near the centre of the City.

 

Singapore is more hopeful and as some of you know I'm= often in the Malaysia/Indonesia region and have high hopes of getti= ng something up there.

 

Thanks for your support of the science, and I'm going to miss the dimmi= ng of the household lights when the Decca/hb rig d= oes its thing, and moreover the reception side of the business and the surp= rises this fascinating part of the spectrum brings.

 

We still may get to Africa either Ghana or Namibia in the new year LF w= ise, but my Charity is closing our Coyhaique Chile= base, so unfortunately we will be pulling the plug from the Eastern Andes = as well....we may also be operating from KL7 inter= mittently as we have sons still up there and weddings pending.

 

As our OE W6 friend s= ays "Ill be backkkk>>>" we move in less t= han a month.

 

Laurence Howell KL1X G4DMA WD2XDW presently also 3D2KL et al.


Upgrade for free to = Windows Live Mail beta and you could win an African Safari Learn more=0A= = --_3395df8b-7a3f-47e2-a4b4-5791a59dcd99_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202122608845734752 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 99d0f719591937089c2fe3fcbf98893cfc2a3336 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs34wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 01:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.38.13 with SMTP id q13mr79280nfj; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si976515nfc.2006.05.01.01.15.56; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTXQ-0006aj-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:13:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaTXP-0006aa-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 09:13:47 +0100 Received: from outbound02.telus.net ([199.185.220.221] helo=priv-edtnes09.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaVOG-0000zy-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:12:44 +0100 Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes09.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060501081324.KORK26243.priv-edtnes09.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 02:13:24 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.1] (d64-180-173-28.bchsia.telus.net [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 3198XNWKDH for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 02:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4455C323.6020600@telus.net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 01:13:23 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3e6.11ff519.31871463@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <3e6.11ff519.31871463@aol.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.240,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: RE: pictures of my new 136kHz stn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5682 Dick, Dave and LF Group Using a design here with 4 FETs (W34NB20) in a module with the two pairs combined this nets about 900W with 37V input. Now on the MO_ALFA we have 8 FETs in two modules of 4 arranged in pairs of 2 combined for 2KW and when loafing on the 'stun' setting we're able to get 1200W+ without much heating at all, in fact she runs very cool(much more efficient then a single module running balls to the wall)... At 2KW forced air is a must... Nothing paralleled and no traditional LPF required as the Wilkinson does the job and provides some port to port isolation. We could push for maybe 3KW as the 8x400W PSUs are loafing still... But after the Tesla display when we commissioned it at 2KW in my backyard cooler heads prevailed...! The highest voltage we can reliably push out a signal with without 'strange' events is 41V. However, I run lower at 37V as a nominal safe choice. I found the W34NB20 better in my application then the IRFP450... 73 Scott VE7TIL G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 30/04/2006 21:43:09 GMT Standard Time, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes: > > Hi Dick, LF Group, > > What power supply voltage will you be using for your new TX, and > what RF power do you hope to get out with 4 times IRFP450? > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > Hi Dave / Dick. > > If it helps: I converted on of my 250W linear amplifiers which used 4 > IRFP450s to class D(ish) The power output went to 700W on 136kHz. I > just replaced the input phase splitting transformer with the normal > class D 4426 driver chip. > I also used the same amp in Scotland at 300W on 73kHz to work Jim > M0BMU and Derek G3GRO who were nr Lands End. PSU was adjustable 35 to 48V. > > Thanks > > David G0MRF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202122608845734752 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4b43f6ee1a7dc2d965cec3e10f51424dc42a0bf9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20723wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 00:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.8 with SMTP id a8mr400037nfg; Mon, 01 May 2006 00:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si1083220nfa.2006.05.01.00.49.21; Mon, 01 May 2006 00:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaT6Y-0006LL-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:46:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaT6Y-0006LC-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:46:02 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaUxP-0000ny-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 10:44:58 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.3e6.11ff519 (48624) for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 03:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <3e6.11ff519.31871463@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 03:36:03 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.114,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: RE: pictures of my new 136kHz stn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1146468963" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5683 -------------------------------1146468963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 30/04/2006 21:43:09 GMT Standard Time, ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes: Hi Dick, LF Group, What power supply voltage will you be using for your new TX, and what RF power do you hope to get out with 4 times IRFP450? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Hi Dave / Dick. If it helps: I converted on of my 250W linear amplifiers which used 4 IRFP450s to class D(ish) The power output went to 700W on 136kHz. I just replaced the input phase splitting transformer with the normal class D 4426 driver chip. I also used the same amp in Scotland at 300W on 73kHz to work Jim M0BMU and Derek G3GRO who were nr Lands End. PSU was adjustable 35 to 48V. Thanks David G0MRF -------------------------------1146468963 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 30/04/2006 21:43:09 GMT Standard Time,=20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:
Hi=20 Dick, LF Group,
 
What=20 power supply voltage will you be using for your new TX, and what RF power=20= do=20 you hope to get out with 4 times IRFP450?
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
Hi Dave / Dick.
 
If it helps:  I converted on of my 250W linear amplifiers which us= ed 4=20 IRFP450s to class D(ish)  The power output went to 700W on 136kHz. = ; I=20 just replaced the input phase splitting transformer with the normal class D=20= 4426=20 driver chip.  
I also used the same amp in Scotland at 300W on 73kHz to= =20 work Jim M0BMU and Derek G3GRO who were nr Lands End. PSU was adjustable 35=20= to=20 48V.
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 -------------------------------1146468963-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204749731487712768 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 80f1218fb715752f1c568e7c1b418c2ca3cfabca Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs89721wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.33.18 with SMTP id l18mr2049992nfj; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si436439nfe.2006.05.29.14.41.16; Mon, 29 May 2006 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkpSd-0004kf-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:39:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkpSc-0004kW-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:39:38 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FkpSY-0005Yf-EO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:39:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 65887 invoked from network); 29 May 2006 21:38:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.55.29 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2006 21:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: <005601c68368$38cc7a40$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c68358$7ec2e3a0$92c828c3@captbrian> <001b01c6835c$99d152e0$0300a8c0@lark> <000901c68364$7903d3a0$b8c428c3@captbrian> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:38:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.954 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5687 Hi Brian Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I could be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find facility. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: captbrian To: Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked too. > Thank you : > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message with > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > Bryan G3GVB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203365968681058295 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 43dee523cda35d6f10ca6f9c7117e6573aa7e239 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs6279wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr2830940nfu; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si2477872nfb.2006.05.14.13.04.11; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMn4-0002Fx-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:02:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMn4-0002Fo-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:02:10 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfOIk-0003FH-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:39:02 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FfMm1-0005HM-00; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:01:05 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rXO+I8Zr8eOn9y3rxLVwsVRWPlHvR0-dGBJGy+yN1viNNuo3-W45g2@[84.133.108.60]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FfMlz-047BNw0; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:01:03 +0200 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:01:02 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1585472238.20060514220102@t-online.de> To: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20060514182332.0319abe0@popper.forthnet.gr> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20060514182332.0319abe0@popper.forthnet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rXO+I8Zr8eOn9y3rxLVwsVRWPlHvR0-dGBJGy+yN1viNNuo3-W45g2 X-TOI-MSGID: c8eedff8-dd8a-4f73-9bf6-349e25a22dd3 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.811 Subject: Re: LF: UNID in Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5688 Costas, thanks for the info 73 Hartmut > At 17:01 14/5/2006 +0200, you wrote: >> Anybody claim the attachment? > Well, DQ2006V is one of the special calls for the 2006 > soccer mundial in Germany. > 73 Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203365968681058295 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 007c148b6632d8bbe12e316db7f3dd1b1bede3ab Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs897wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.19 with SMTP id m19mr1321794nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si9573147nfc.2006.05.14.08.28.36; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfIUD-0001MW-2J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:26:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfIUC-0001MN-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:26:24 +0100 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.30] helo=mx-out-01.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfKQ3-0002Ww-0M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:30:30 +0100 Received: from mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4EFPhF5020563 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:25:43 +0300 Received: from mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (mx-in-03.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.26]) by mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4EFPh9d007777 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:25:43 +0300 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp19-17.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.162.17]) by mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4EFPgSB022593 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:25:42 +0300 Authentication-Results: mx-in-03.forthnet.gr from=kkrallis@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20060514182332.0319abe0@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:25:22 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <806352308.20060514170102@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.659,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: UNID in Hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5689 At 17:01 14/5/2006 +0200, you wrote: > Anybody claim the attachment? Well, DQ2006V is one of the special calls for the 2006 soccer mundial in Germany. 73 Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203365968681058295 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 695ebe9a6f904b45a5473ec88dea44b8b5de4377 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs351wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.221.20 with SMTP id t20mr1305128nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si2200331nfe.2006.05.14.08.06.56; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfI6n-0001AV-6r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:02:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfI6m-0001AM-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:02:12 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfJcM-00019g-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:38:58 +0100 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FfI5j-0004Rj-00; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:01:07 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VsQxT4ZdoekJntzX2hUxi7LHFUR1bV13yGNZcWj-d7bHI2lD4Gu7kJ@[84.133.108.60]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FfI5e-0nTyeu0; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:01:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:01:02 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <806352308.20060514170102@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VsQxT4ZdoekJntzX2hUxi7LHFUR1bV13yGNZcWj-d7bHI2lD4Gu7kJ X-TOI-MSGID: fe55a0c7-1174-410c-b8a8-9608b52a36cd X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.816 Subject: LF: UNID in Hell Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------A8D816925B45EB9" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5690 ------------A8D816925B45EB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody claim the attachment? 73 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:33:23 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 May 2006 18:52:40 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.242.191 by BAY118-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 22 May 2006 01:52:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.242.191] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: Cc: "Lowfer_Post" References: Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:52:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0026.0800 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:52:38 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2006 01:52:40.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[68E576E0:01C67D42] X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.304,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Re: XDW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01C67D18.7ECA1DA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5691 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C67D18.7ECA1DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gonna be quiet without you around Laurence...Take care and hope to talk = again down the road. Mike WE0H WD2XGI ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Laurence KL1X To: lowfer2 ; = rsgb_lf_group=20 Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: LF: XDW Dear Friends - I was hoping to get WD2XDW back on the air as soon as = the OET gave the White smoke, as compared to the Blue that rises = occasionally fm this location, but it isnt to be so. All the gear is = hooked up and working and had high hopes of about 4.5 amps aerial = current! Sheri and I are moving to Shanghai, China for about a year, then 24 = months in Singapore with my Oil company. Today we heard officially that = we are joining the Bohia 2 project looking after the Tcomms interfaces = side of the project. So, we have to flog this house here in Bartlesville we moved into in = late Jan, and put most of the stuff in storage until our return to the = US in the future. Ill attempt to take one of the rx's into China and = hopefully get something up (Eprobe) but I have a feeling its going to be = an apartment near the centre of the City.=20 Singapore is more hopeful and as some of you know I'm often in the = Malaysia/Indonesia region and have high hopes of getting something up = there. Thanks for your support of the science, and I'm going to miss the = dimming of the household lights when the Decca/hb rig does its thing, = and moreover the reception side of the business and the surprises this = fascinating part of the spectrum brings.=20 We still may get to Africa either Ghana or Namibia in the new year LF = wise, but my Charity is closing our Coyhaique Chile base, so = unfortunately we will be pulling the plug from the Eastern Andes as = well....we may also be operating from KL7 intermittently as we have sons = still up there and weddings pending. As our OE W6 friend says "Ill be backkkk>>>" we move in less than a = month. Laurence Howell KL1X G4DMA WD2XDW presently also 3D2KL et al. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C67D18.7ECA1DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gonna be quiet without you around Laurence...Take care and hope to = talk=20 again down the road.
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurence KL1X
To: lowfer2 ; rsgb_lf_group
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:46 = PM
Subject: LF: XDW

Dear Friends - I was hoping to get WD2XDW = back on the=20 air as soon as the OET gave the White smoke, as compared to the Blue that rises occasionally fm = this=20 location, but it isnt to be so. All the gear = is hooked=20 up and working and had high hopes of about 4.5 amps aerial = current!

 

Sheri and I are moving to Shanghai, China for = about a year,=20 then 24 months in Singapore with my Oil company. Today we heard officially that we are joining the Bohia 2 project looking after = the Tcomms interfaces side of the=20 project.

 

So, we have to flog this house here in Bartlesville=20 we moved into in late Jan, and put most of the stuff in storage until = our=20 return to the US in the future. Ill attempt to take one of the rx's into China and hopefully get something up = (Eprobe) but I have a feeling its going to = be an=20 apartment near the centre of the City.

 

Singapore is more hopeful and as some of you know I'm=20 often in the Malaysia/Indonesia region and have high hopes of getting=20 something up there.

 

Thanks for your support of the science, and I'm going to = miss the=20 dimming of the household lights when the Decca/hb rig=20 does its thing, and moreover the reception side of the business and = the=20 surprises this fascinating part of the spectrum brings.

 

We still may get to Africa either Ghana or Namibia in the new year = LF wise,=20 but my Charity is closing our Coyhaique Chile = base, so=20 unfortunately we will be pulling the plug from the Eastern Andes as = well....we=20 may also be operating from KL7 intermittently = as we have=20 sons still up there and weddings pending.

 

As our OE W6 friend = says "Ill=20 be backkkk>>>" we move in less than a = month.

 

Laurence Howell KL1X G4DMA=20 WD2XDW presently also 3D2KL et = al.

------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C67D18.7ECA1DA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203064198052462079 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c61a97245cbd5c12399717b9bc39eddfc14e5111 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs27266wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 01:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.149.10 with SMTP id w10mr950937qbd; Fri, 12 May 2006 01:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si2650038qbc.2006.05.12.01.31.32; Fri, 12 May 2006 01:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeSxN-0000tP-Gp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:25:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeSxN-0000tG-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:25:05 +0100 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FeURq-0002j7-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:00:42 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0702.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2160A180004A for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:24:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-3-85.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.134.85]) by mwinf0702.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5823B180009C for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:24:54 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060512082454361.5823B180009C@mwinf0702.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200605121024190671.4E8241B0@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4462F32E.405@online.fr> References: <200605110905250547.4913A905@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <4462F32E.405@online.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:24:19 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.432 Subject: Re: LF: Self-amalgamating tape Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5693 Many thanks for this information. There are several DIY establishments= near here. I will see what I can find. 73 John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/05/2006 at 10:17 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: >Hello John and Jean-Pierre > >Vulgairement appel=E9 " peau de chat " par les professionnels ! >On trouve =E7a au rayon =E9lectricit=E9 , plomberie des grands magasins de= >bricolage . >73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ > >Jean-Pierre Godet a =E9crit : >> >> On Thu, 11 May 2006, John RABSON wrote: >> >>> Does anybody know the French for this, please? My Collins-Robert >>> dictionary is no help. >> >> Hello John ! >> =3D=3D> "ruban auto-vulcanisant" >> >> Best 73 to all ! >> F5YG >> >> BTW : good copy of the DI2BO beacon last night. >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ >Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203064198052462079 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0892195e7b3a5f47d25d5ff33b9083a5c26a8f1c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs10957wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.23.15 with SMTP id a15mr218825nfj; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si5601994nfe.2006.05.11.01.20.45; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe6NB-0005ep-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:18:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe6N9-0005eg-Vs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:18:11 +0100 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe8Hg-00043T-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 11:21:00 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611F77A92C for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4462F32E.405@online.fr> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 10:17:50 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200605110905250547.4913A905@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.544 Subject: Re: LF: Self-amalgamating tape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5694 Hello John and Jean-Pierre Vulgairement appel=E9 " peau de chat " par les professionnels ! On trouve =E7a au rayon =E9lectricit=E9 , plomberie des grands magasins d= e=20 bricolage . 73 qro Jean-Pierre F1AFJ Jean-Pierre Godet a =E9crit : > > On Thu, 11 May 2006, John RABSON wrote: > >> Does anybody know the French for this, please? My Collins-Robert=20 >> dictionary is no help. > > Hello John ! > =3D=3D> "ruban auto-vulcanisant" > > Best 73 to all ! > F5YG > > BTW : good copy of the DI2BO beacon last night. > > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203064198052462079 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 92f020623609dab20070e1cd09c3d3276547d866 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs9920wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.2.19 with SMTP id e19mr192894nfi; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si5549953nfe.2006.05.11.00.39.18; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe5jV-0005L3-GA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:37:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe5jV-0005Ku-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:37:13 +0100 Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe7e6-0003bz-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:40:01 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1004.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4668E2400167 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-8.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-8.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.8]) by mwinf1004.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 890892400159 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:36:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060511073649561.890892400159@mwinf1004.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:36:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <200605110905250547.4913A905@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <200605110905250547.4913A905@smtp.wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.585 Subject: Re: LF: Self-amalgamating tape Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5695 On Thu, 11 May 2006, John RABSON wrote: > Does anybody know the French for this, please? My Collins-Robert > dictionary is no help. Hello John ! ==> "ruban auto-vulcanisant" Best 73 to all ! F5YG BTW : good copy of the DI2BO beacon last night. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203064198052462079 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ebfd7131a7f09787dc85fbcf6e779e9cfed2f171 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs9102wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.12 with SMTP id a12mr171631nfg; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si478479nfa.2006.05.11.00.10.26; Thu, 11 May 2006 00:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe5Fo-0005AN-8I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:06:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe5Fn-0005AE-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:06:31 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe6jl-0000rM-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:41:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4B151C0020B for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-2-199.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.133.199]) by mwinf0209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2062D1C0021D for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:06:20 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060511070621133.2062D1C0021D@mwinf0209.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200605110905250547.4913A905@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:05:25 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.486 Subject: LF: Self-amalgamating tape Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5696 Does anybody know the French for this, please? My Collins-Robert= dictionary is no help. 73 John F5VLF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 519c6f67b6d4d5c4b7c2025df1f3361ec46f7192 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1961wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr2015891nfu; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si1545100nfb.2006.05.13.09.33.17; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FewzW-00061i-Ib for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:29:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FewzW-00061Z-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:29:18 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Feyuv-0001sX-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 19:33:01 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter07.comcast.net ([204.127.197.117]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060513162851m1100982nte>; Sat, 13 May 2006 16:28:51 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter07.comcast.net; Sat, 13 May 2006 16:28:50 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:28:50 +0000 Message-Id: <051320061628.15494.446609420005E4C200003C8622007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.745 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Rope? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5697 Hi Peter, > Titanex sells several kinds of ropes; among those Kevlar. (Isn't it > conductive?) According to the Dupont website,, Kevlar has low conductivity: http://www.dupont.com/kevlar/whatiskevlar.html -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "dj9dw" > Mike and group, > Titanex sells several kinds of ropes; among those Kevlar. (Isn't it > conductive?) > Regards, Peter, dj9dw > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:33 PM > Subject: LF: Rope? > > > > I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a > > large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope > > (from B&Q). > > > > The rope shows signs of deterioration - presumably from UV - and I > > wonder whether I would be better using white polyprop, or nylon, > > rather than blue polyprop. > > > > Nylon is a lot more expensive - is it worthwhile? I understand than > > nylon is stretchy - is this a problem? Does nylon have a similar > > breaking strength - the antenna is lightweight but takes some wind- > > load and in any case I don't want any accidents, so over-engineering > > is the order of the day. > > > > Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > =========== > > http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 75685e4c80fc7a0cca23f3c8d13089d1180525a2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs60236wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.13 with SMTP id l13mr1676104nfg; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si2770087nfc.2006.05.12.23.09.03; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FenHT-0004Tv-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 07:07:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FenHS-0004Tm-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 07:07:11 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FeomN-0004O4-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:43:15 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FenGQ-0005bx-05; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:06:06 +0200 Received: from oben (r16EFYZa8eABfAPI-yadysER0MI2o6EEtgMpLAVwbTunvLoUQm0A44@[84.178.215.140]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1FenGK-1RbC1g0; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:06:00 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c67653$a36583a0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:08:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: r16EFYZa8eABfAPI-yadysER0MI2o6EEtgMpLAVwbTunvLoUQm0A44 X-TOI-MSGID: 226b1d00-f92e-4cc0-9b6f-a3020f72ae9d X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.137 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5698 Mike and group, Titanex sells several kinds of ropes; among those Kevlar. (Isn't it conductive?) Regards, Peter, dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: LF: Rope? > I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a > large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope > (from B&Q). > > The rope shows signs of deterioration - presumably from UV - and I > wonder whether I would be better using white polyprop, or nylon, > rather than blue polyprop. > > Nylon is a lot more expensive - is it worthwhile? I understand than > nylon is stretchy - is this a problem? Does nylon have a similar > breaking strength - the antenna is lightweight but takes some wind- > load and in any case I don't want any accidents, so over-engineering > is the order of the day. > > Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? > > Mike, G3XDV > =========== > http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e1e8e3455e576209ce40a111ee3d3f468536c3b7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs55829wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.9 with SMTP id n9mr1576486nfi; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si2569679nfa.2006.05.12.18.46.39; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fej8U-0003vh-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:41:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fej8U-0003vY-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:41:38 +0100 Received: from mail.hvi.net ([64.72.88.19] helo=wombat.hvi.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fel3h-0002aX-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 04:45:07 +0100 Received: from Laptop (unverified [207.96.3.11]) by wombat.hvi.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.340.0) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 21:41:17 -0400 Message-ID: <006f01c6762e$4da46370$0b0360cf@Laptop> From: "RJ Mattson" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:41:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5699 >From a rope characteristics chart displayed at a diy store, I picked polyester because it had the best score against sun rot. I have been using it now for two years to suspend a 80m doublet between two trees using a pulley and a 10 lb window sash weight to keep the tension. bob...w2ami FN31 Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: LF: Rope? I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope (from B&Q). The rope shows signs of deterioration - presumably from UV - and I wonder whether I would be better using white polyprop, or nylon, rather than blue polyprop. Nylon is a lot more expensive - is it worthwhile? I understand than nylon is stretchy - is this a problem? Does nylon have a similar breaking strength - the antenna is lightweight but takes some wind- load and in any case I don't want any accidents, so over-engineering is the order of the day. Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? Mike, G3XDV =========== http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 06728a3414919c242fa147d1f4d6f13f1825f2ba Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs49846wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.17 with SMTP id f17mr1436425nfe; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si524406nfc.2006.05.12.14.04.26; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feemg-0003FB-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:02:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feemg-0003F2-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:02:50 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fegho-0008MH-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 00:06:14 +0100 Received: from server (dial-189.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.189]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id C454017D76 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004a01c675ff$4254c5c0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:03:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.893,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01C67607.84820540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C67607.84820540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike, I've been playing with antennas for over 30 years or so and I've had the best luck with marine grade dacron. Sure, it's a bit pricey, but that = is more than made up for by its longevity. More recently I tried some of the white nylon rope in a non-critical application, and it still looks = OK after three or four years exposure to the elements. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Dennison=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: LF: Rope? I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is supported by a=20 large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene rope=20 (from B&Q).=20 Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C67607.84820540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Mike,
 
I've been playing with antennas for = over 30 years=20 or so and I've had the
best luck with marine grade = dacron.  Sure,=20 it's a bit pricey, but that is
more than made up for by its = longevity.  More=20 recently I tried some of
the white nylon rope in a non-critical = application,=20 and it still looks OK
after three or four years exposure to = the=20 elements.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike Dennison
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:33 = PM
Subject: LF: Rope?

I am refurbishing one of my antenna supports. It is = supported=20 by a
large tree and is raised and lowered using blue polypropylene = rope=20
(from B&Q).

Any advice from those more knowledgable /=20 experienced than me?

Mike, = G3XDV
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk

------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C67607.84820540-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a91cfd96ef4802a4bb76388d180f07d5be691d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs44131wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr1311897nfe; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si7231780nfc.2006.05.12.10.45.42; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FebfL-0002Uo-P5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:43:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FebfL-0002Uf-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:43:03 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fed9z-00078V-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:18:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 63337 invoked from network); 12 May 2006 17:42:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.69.153 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2006 17:42:57 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c675eb$8102b340$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:42:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.319 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5701 >From G3PLX: Mike: Be careful about using colour-fading as a guide to the performance of rope in sunlight - the differences tell you more about the pigment used than the UV resistance of the rope itself. Anything coloured red will fade quickly. Blue pigment takes longer to fade. The pigment most resistant to UV is black. Black also is by far the best pigment to prevent the UV from affecting the underlying structure, and white is the worst. This means that, regardless of the intrinsic UV-resistance of the basic material, almost ANYTHING which is loaded with a black pigment, or is painted black, will be highly resistant to UV. On the other hand, if you really want it white or a light colour, then you may need to go into more detail to discover what the basic material is made of. My antenna came down the other day in a high wind, but it was quite clear that it had suffered UV degradation over 11 years. It was a white polypropylene rope with a white polycarbonate jacket (sold as washing line!) but the jacket had almost completely broken up and the UV had attacked the inner rope. I replaced it with more of the same because I still had some left from when I first put it up. I don't know if you can get black polypropylene but that's what I would recommend you try to find. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203191435393843265 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2b88049b3383c7fb0191cea477b9139ac89f618b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs42399wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.87.10 with SMTP id p10mr1843086ugl; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1038586ugf.2006.05.12.09.52.49; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feaqu-00026j-GM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:50:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feaqu-00026a-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:50:56 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fecm1-0005pm-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 19:54:16 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A7EA31C0008E for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from MLB (user-1303.lns6-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.67.197.23]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7401E1C00083 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:50:35 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060512165035475.7401E1C00083@mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <021f01c675e4$312af550$17c54354@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:50:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5702 > > Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? > > Mike, G3XDV > =========== Mike - get to know a BT engineer and obtain some 6mm diameter "BT Drawrope". This is blue, but the smoulder test indicates that it's definitely not polypropylene, and it doesn't smell much like nylon either, though it might be. I had a child's tyre swing in the garden for eight years, supended with this, and apart from some colour loss there was no significant degradation after all the abuse that it suffered. Martin GW3UCJ Swansea. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203118258300828490 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 04a2953a4fb29fdaabd4afbcd3fb00b4e1f70e67 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs11112wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr959040nfg; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si2504006nfa.2006.05.11.14.29.41; Thu, 11 May 2006 14:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeIfZ-0008HD-GA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 22:26:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeIfZ-0008H4-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 22:26:01 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.183]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FeKaN-0002N9-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 00:29:02 +0100 Received: from [217.251.227.207] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1FeIfJ0EhF-0008Hm; Thu, 11 May 2006 23:25:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c67541$745ec610$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 23:25:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.014,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the other side of the pond? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67552.348AFD90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5710 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67552.348AFD90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello folks, the experimental beacon DI2BO will be QRV in QRSS3 on 440,040 kHz during = the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will start Friday night (local time = Germany) and will continue through Monday morning. I will post details = here later. Effecive radiated power will be around 5 Watt. So far the 5 wmp = conventional CW beacon has been heard well throughout Europe. QRSS3 = should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out there listening? Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67552.348AFD90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello folks,
 
the experimental beacon DI2BO will be = QRV in QRSS3=20 on 440,040 kHz during the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will start = Friday=20 night (local time Germany) and will continue through Monday morning. I = will post=20 details here later.
 
Effecive radiated power will be around = 5 Watt. So=20 far the 5 wmp conventional CW beacon has been heard well throughout = Europe.=20 QRSS3 should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out there=20 listening?
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
  
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C67552.348AFD90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204347446977108967 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bdda4459f3f1dad0be3adc96116a6ec7eb659adc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs3815wra; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.199.15 with SMTP id w15mr248410nff; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si230453nfc.2006.05.26.01.07.19; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjXCk-0006In-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjXCj-0006Ie-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:54 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48] helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FjXCe-0004fB-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:52 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060526075741.WPKL29040.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:41 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060526075741.BPNL16086.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:41 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4476C2FE.21180.4C1B3F@localhost> In-reply-to: <00a901c67fea$74306000$6501a8c0@eagles> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.265,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: First VE7 to VY1 QSO on 137.6 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5720 Congratulation chaps. However I am jealous of an antenna that gets 0.1W ERP from 25W RF - I need about 600W to achieve that! Mike, G3XDV ========== > I believe this is the first ever LF QSO from Yukon. > > The transmitter at the Yukon end was Steve's old tuning transmitter > running at its low power setting, approximately 25-30 Watts, which > should be about 0.1W ierp. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204347446977108967 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 97a74e0ee6f18ac17fc0719b0dd3c6b4153d7fa5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs92571wra; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.234.14 with SMTP id g14mr1388638nfh; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si4729439nfa.2006.05.25.09.38.27; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjInN-0005Fo-GI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:34:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjInN-0005Ff-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:34:45 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FjInI-0005yi-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:34:45 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 76A945280 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 10:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000a01c68019$087d3980$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:34:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.331,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: First VE7 to VY1 QSO on 137.6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5721 Lawrence, Thanks for the feedback and the kind words. The weak traces were those of Steve, VE7SL. His station was on 137573.0 I really did not expect my signal to be seen even in BC at its current power level and was very glad to find Steve report such good copy. Please watch for me in a couple of weeks, when the power is up. The next steps are to raise power to our temporary license maximum limit, to prove compatibility with power utility Power Line Carrier systems. This experiment in Yukon hopes to show two things, cohabitation of amateur 137 kHz operation with PLC, and beginning steps toward understanding 137 propagation to and from above 60 degrees latitude.. For the second, I rely on folks like you to capture or comment on what you can make out of my signals, when propagation is favorable. Some of you have already received traces which I have made of your signals. If you or anyone else would like to see how your ghost traces of Steve's signal line up with what I received let me know. The same goes for the .WAV files of audible standard CW from his location as heard here. This is the second time audible CW has been heard here from down in lower BC, over 1000 miles distant. I can send files next week but right now, I am studying for an examination related to (of all things) SCADA system software. I am currently training to become an effective IT instructor. Quite a change after three years of retirement... challenging fun not unlike operating on 137. I will be watching for your signal when the watering hole is filled with wildlife. By the way, the other animals there will likely be calling my signals, "Simone", (was that the name of the little guy in The Lion King?), because signals coming from the NW corner of North America will not likely be the biggest ones there. 73, J. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204347446977108967 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a1a345354fa6cffc970baf991173b2a33fab9a7c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs81230wra; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.39.1 with SMTP id r1mr6555652nfj; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si8834978nfc.2006.05.25.04.31.45; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjE08-0004n1-5d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:27:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjE07-0004ms-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:27:35 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s29.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.229]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FjE02-0003Qq-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:27:35 +0100 Received: from BAY116-W8 ([64.4.38.108]) by bay0-omc3-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 25 May 2006 04:27:24 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.92.243.140] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Laurence KL1X" To: Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 03:27:24 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2006 11:27:24.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[3218FC00:01C67FEE] X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-3.114,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD=2.132,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_da00e83b-e360-4f36-877f-eb4d728eeed9_" Subject: RE: LF: First VE7 to VY1 QSO on 137.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5722 --_da00e83b-e360-4f36-877f-eb4d728eeed9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good stuff! Looking back at the overnight trace I only see some weak traces= on 137.5730 but no Id's =3D very noisy overnight here in OK. Cheers Laurence em26br ok > From: vy1ja@northwestel.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@lwc= a.org> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:37 +0000> Subject: LF: First VE7 to VY1= QSO on 137.6> > Hello, All,> > This morning, 2006/05/25, at 08:13 UTC Stev= e, VE7SL, made a two-way QSO on > 137.5735 kHz with VY1JA using QRSS60. Hi= s signals were so strong that in > the end, I asked him to switch to conven= tional CW and he was 100% copy at > about 12 WPM. I hope to be able to sen= d Steve the .WAV file and captures of > the QSO from my end for his website= .> > I believe this is the first ever LF QSO from Yukon.> > The transmitter= at the Yukon end was Steve's old tuning transmitter running > at its low p= ower setting, approximately 25-30 Watts, which should be about > 0.1W ierp.= > > Steve should get a gold star for his skill at pulling out the weak sign= als.> > When parts arrive in the next week or so, I will be switching the s= tation to > VFO control and be moving the transmitter frequency to the wate= ring hole on > about 137.77845> > Many thanks to Steve for his patience for= the 2-1/2 hours it took to get > this QSO through.> > 73,> > "J"> VY1JA > = > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx= --_da00e83b-e360-4f36-877f-eb4d728eeed9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=

Good stuff! Looking back at the overnight trace I only see some w= eak traces on 137.5730 but no Id's =3D

very noisy overnight here in OK. Cheers Laurence= em26br ok

> From: vy1ja@northwestel.net
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g; lowfer@lwca.org
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:37 +0000
> Su= bject: LF: First VE7 to VY1 QSO on 137.6
>
> Hello, All,<= BR>>
> This morning, 2006/05/25, at 08:13&nbs= p;UTC Steve, VE7SL, made a two-way QSO o= n 
> 137.5735 kHz with VY1JA using QRSS= 60.  His signals were so strong that&nbs= p;in 
> the end, I asked him to sw= itch to conventional CW and he was 100%&= nbsp;copy at 
> about 12 WPM.  I h= ope to be able to send Steve the .W= AV file and captures of 
> the QSO = ;from my end for his website.
>
> I&n= bsp;believe this is the first ever LF QS= O from Yukon.
>
> The transmitter at = the Yukon end was Steve's old tuning tra= nsmitter running 
> at its low power se= tting, approximately 25-30 Watts, which should&nbs= p;be about 
> 0.1W ierp.
>
> Steve s= hould get a gold star for his skill = ;at pulling out the weak signals.
>
>= When parts arrive in the next week or&n= bsp;so, I will be switching the station = to 
> VFO control and be moving the&nbs= p;transmitter frequency to the watering hole = on 
> about 137.77845
>
> Many thanks&nbs= p;to Steve for his patience for the 2-1/= 2 hours it took to get 
> this QSO=  through.
>
> 73,
>
> "J"
> VY1JA = ;
>
>
>


Upgrade for free to Windows= Live Mail beta and you could win an African Safari Le= arn more=0A= = --_da00e83b-e360-4f36-877f-eb4d728eeed9_-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204347446977108967 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c5c33fdbf88e44241c0268101bdb2b4d8a611e88 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs80583wra; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.62 with SMTP id z62mr2869972nzg; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 17si4119590nzo.2006.05.25.04.07.06; Thu, 25 May 2006 04:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjDaE-0004ff-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:00:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjDaD-0004fW-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:00:49 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FjDaA-0003H2-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:00:49 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A8A19785E; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:02:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <00a901c67fea$74306000$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: , Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.442,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: First VE7 to VY1 QSO on 137.6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5723 Hello, All, This morning, 2006/05/25, at 08:13 UTC Steve, VE7SL, made a two-way QSO on 137.5735 kHz with VY1JA using QRSS60. His signals were so strong that in the end, I asked him to switch to conventional CW and he was 100% copy at about 12 WPM. I hope to be able to send Steve the .WAV file and captures of the QSO from my end for his website. I believe this is the first ever LF QSO from Yukon. The transmitter at the Yukon end was Steve's old tuning transmitter running at its low power setting, approximately 25-30 Watts, which should be about 0.1W ierp. Steve should get a gold star for his skill at pulling out the weak signals. When parts arrive in the next week or so, I will be switching the station to VFO control and be moving the transmitter frequency to the watering hole on about 137.77845 Many thanks to Steve for his patience for the 2-1/2 hours it took to get this QSO through. 73, "J" VY1JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202887864443735279 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 90676ccd81d46132c9fda5bcb2a40ca017821ffc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs32418wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.10 with SMTP id t10mr2149446nfj; Tue, 09 May 2006 06:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si3434528nfe.2006.05.09.06.52.01; Tue, 09 May 2006 06:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdSaE-0006bJ-Sx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:49:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdSaE-0006bA-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:49:02 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdU3L-0005eK-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:23:15 +0100 Received: from [147.197.215.113] (helo=tucana.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1FdSa3-00070E-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:48:51 +0100 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1FdSa1-0002TA-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:48:49 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:48:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c6736f$4c8d4a90$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-Information: X-H-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.862 Subject: RE: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5730 Dear Laurence, LF Group, Well, you could cut the branches off and put it back up again... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 09 May 2006 14:39 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: T A the last night ...The one tree of my neighbors that I had high hopes of snagging as a = sky=20 hook for a LF aerial decided to accerlerate back to ground in a 70mph = gust=20 this morning; I now have a 60ft horizontally polarized tree of some 6 = inches diameter finely balanced 50/50 on my fence - Laurence em26br Oklahoma - >From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: T A the last night >Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 10:23:55 +0200 > > >Hi all on the list ! > >The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! >with a no noise , no static activity !!! >Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil ! > >73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202887864443735279 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8a643f794d0b4a5e79ed72e209da3d6293511809 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs32130wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.30.7 with SMTP id h7mr2154506nfj; Tue, 09 May 2006 06:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si3443579nfc.2006.05.09.06.43.51; Tue, 09 May 2006 06:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdSQf-0006UJ-4a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:39:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdSQe-0006UA-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:39:08 +0100 Received: from bay116-f20.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.30] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdTtl-0005a1-8o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:13:21 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:38:35 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09 May 2006 13:38:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <4460519B.4010204@online.fr> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 05:38:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2006 13:38:35.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF0F01D0:01C6736D] X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.075,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: RE: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5731 Lots of storms over the Southern plains and hence a lot of noiz and nothing seen overnight here on 137KHz. The one tree of my neighbors that I had high hopes of snagging as a sky hook for a LF aerial decided to accerlerate back to ground in a 70mph gust this morning; I now have a 60ft horizontally polarized tree of some 6 inches diameter finely balanced 50/50 on my fence - Laurence em26br Oklahoma - >From: Jean-Pierre M�r� >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: T A the last night >Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 10:23:55 +0200 > > >Hi all on the list ! > >The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! >with a no noise , no static activity !!! >Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil ! > >73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202887864443735279 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 57963776f1bbbe3cad9e4feccb81246e60f707a4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs24407wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 01:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.3.15 with SMTP id 15mr1889614nfc; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si3144165nfc.2006.05.09.01.27.40; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdNWO-0005di-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 09:24:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdNWM-0005dZ-RT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 09:24:42 +0100 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdPQD-00076o-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 11:26:45 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9622240F for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:23:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4460519B.4010204@online.fr> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 10:23:55 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3) X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.575 Subject: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5732 Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! with a no noise , no static activity !!! Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203207596742950095 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7d87decf1f867a4c6584210ed7f9f30eec51094c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs50002wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.5 with SMTP id f5mr73194nfj; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si82415nfa.2006.05.12.14.09.41; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeerF-0003Kc-6t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:07:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeerE-0003KT-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:07:32 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FegmQ-0008Py-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 00:10:57 +0100 Received: from 88-106-193-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.193.172]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2006 22:06:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAF6RZESIfyw Received: from 88-106-193-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.193.172]:1113 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Feept-0000AK-W7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 21:06:10 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.796,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: DI2BO-2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C67610.51697D60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5734 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C67610.51697D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Geri & LF, Screen shot taken 2056 to 2101utc 12/05/2006. 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+0100 Received: (qmail 59367 invoked from network); 22 May 2006 09:47:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.40 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2006 09:47:01 -0000 Message-ID: <007a01c67d84$acc95ab0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000f01c67d7c$b8f309b0$0301010a@mikes> <004e01c67d7e$cb3fb8a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001701c67d80$5e508920$0301010a@mikes> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:47:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.236 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Californian mode change? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5754 >From G3PLX: Mike: If I am right, it means the transmitter is sending ..010101010101.. at 50 baud. It spends 20mS on F1 then 20mS on F2, where (F2-F1)=50Hz. This is eqivalent to a carrier half-way between the two which is being coherently FM modulated with a 25 Hz squarewave, so you see a tone in the middle, two either side at +/-25Hz, then two more a little lower in level, and maybe a few more pairs further out if you look hard enough. But I am guessing a bit. I can't hear it at all! 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204826713128860066 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b5a1bd9713ab3097e0bfcd7d674461506ef84fc1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs2703wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.12 with SMTP id p12mr2802456nfp; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si5518182nfc.2006.05.30.11.04.51; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8UO-0007uw-H6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:58:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8UN-0007um-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:58:43 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl8UJ-0007Ni-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:58:43 +0100 Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.141.245]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 30 May 2006 18:58:23 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAADohfESJTyw Received: from 88-106-141-245.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.141.245]:2036 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Fl8U2-0006zl-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 17:58:23 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:58:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.934,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: TU in Morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5756 TU Mike. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: 30 May 2006 18:48 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TU in Morse TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) than TKS or TNX. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will > confirm!!! > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian > Sent: 30 May 2006 18:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: > Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ > On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. > > Bryan > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202298087123444989 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9e42059e9b1c5e7df1c2e139da5fca6e99789fde Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs6502wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 13:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.20 with SMTP id k20mr72380nfe; Tue, 02 May 2006 13:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si650861nfc.2006.05.02.13.13.25; Tue, 02 May 2006 13:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb1BU-0008RQ-G8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 21:09:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb1BU-0008RH-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 21:09:24 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fb32t-0007Uf-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:08:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 9633 invoked from network); 2 May 2006 20:09:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.13.0 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2006 20:09:07 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 21:10:18 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4455C323.6020600@telus.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.035,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: pictures of my new 136kHz stn (IRFP450) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5780 Hi Scott, David and Dick, LF Group, Thanks for the helpful comments. It seems that 400W out with 37v supply would be a reasonable target for my next winter project. My current rig gives 200W output from a pair of SMM70N06 FETs at 15VDC. The STW34NB20 FETs are cheaper than the IRFP450, but I see that Farnell will be no longer stocking them, and are recommending the Fairchild FQA55N25 as a replacement. This is rated at 250V/55A, and might be an even better choice. Scott, has your home-page moved? The Scottboxx link no longer seems to work. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Scott Tilley Sent: 01 May 2006 09:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: pictures of my new 136kHz stn Dick, Dave and LF Group Using a design here with 4 FETs (W34NB20) in a module with the two pairs combined this nets about 900W with 37V input. Now on the MO_ALFA we have 8 FETs in two modules of 4 arranged in pairs of 2 combined for 2KW and when loafing on the 'stun' setting we're able to get 1200W+ without much heating at all, in fact she runs very cool(much more efficient then a single module running balls to the wall)... At 2KW forced air is a must... Nothing paralleled and no traditional LPF required as the Wilkinson does the job and provides some port to port isolation. We could push for maybe 3KW as the 8x400W PSUs are loafing still... But after the Tesla display when we commissioned it at 2KW in my backyard cooler heads prevailed...! The highest voltage we can reliably push out a signal with without 'strange' events is 41V. However, I run lower at 37V as a nominal safe choice. I found the W34NB20 better in my application then the IRFP450... 73 Scott VE7TIL G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 30/04/2006 21:43:09 GMT Standard Time, > ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes: > > Hi Dick, LF Group, > > What power supply voltage will you be using for your new TX, and > what RF power do you hope to get out with 4 times IRFP450? > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > Hi Dave / Dick. > > If it helps: I converted on of my 250W linear amplifiers which used 4 > IRFP450s to class D(ish) The power output went to 700W on 136kHz. I > just replaced the input phase splitting transformer with the normal > class D 4426 driver chip. > I also used the same amp in Scotland at 300W on 73kHz to work Jim > M0BMU and Derek G3GRO who were nr Lands End. PSU was adjustable 35 to 48V. > > Thanks > > David G0MRF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204429363814450138 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 947954b648eb53f4e52ef50534349fc884f1094a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs20617wra; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.58.17 with SMTP id l17mr31892nfk; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si664871nfb.2006.05.26.09.22.30; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjezG-00070z-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 17:16:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjezG-00070q-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 17:16:30 +0100 Received: from mx1.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16] helo=cupids.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FjezA-0000A5-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 17:16:29 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by cupids.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4QGGEqj012357 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 13:46:14 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k4QGGEJI000325 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 13:46:14 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k4QGGDLA002976; Fri, 26 May 2006 13:46:13 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:46:13 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <889129708.20060526104535@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <889129708.20060526104535@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.977,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA on 187.37 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5804 Hartmut, Thanks for the reports and the website. It's amazing that you can copy it over there. 73 Joe On Fri, 26 May 2006, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Screenshots of the 10W transmissions from Joe, VO1NA on 187.37 kHz can > be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/VO1NA187kHz/VO1NA187kHz.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204429363814450138 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d21e716afab37b0fd565e9ba531c1181caa5c701 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs4737wra; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.16 with SMTP id l16mr23816nfg; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si257127nfc.2006.05.26.01.49.09; Fri, 26 May 2006 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FjXx3-0006Rv-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FjXx3-0006Rm-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45:45 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FjXwy-0004zb-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45:44 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FjXww-0002Sr-02; Fri, 26 May 2006 10:45:38 +0200 Received: from HW1 (r111P-ZXQeB1y1YF3bRP7uk-8TqZi02Kj85W5O-acy4eLudBtJs4cu@[84.133.117.164]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FjXwu-0EGcKm0; Fri, 26 May 2006 10:45:36 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 10:45:35 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <889129708.20060526104535@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r111P-ZXQeB1y1YF3bRP7uk-8TqZi02Kj85W5O-acy4eLudBtJs4cu X-TOI-MSGID: 0339dc7e-641f-453c-b393-67aa3b2be2a9 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.806 Subject: LF: VO1NA on 187.37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5805 Screenshots of the 10W transmissions from Joe, VO1NA on 187.37 kHz can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/VO1NA187kHz/VO1NA187kHz.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202180132365236190 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2131b9e4032a4d2fa37c3c1ab10405c53f36d277 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs4399wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 05:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.38.13 with SMTP id q13mr222093nfj; Mon, 01 May 2006 05:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si1311828nfc.2006.05.01.05.58.35; Mon, 01 May 2006 05:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaXvj-0008DD-Ow for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:55:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaXvj-0008D4-7a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:55:11 +0100 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.193]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaZKv-0000Jj-4D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 15:25:21 +0100 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i28so2389295nzi for ; Mon, 01 May 2006 05:54:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VPdVLzpPfJhDXa3dzLAqgUAntUCL5j2027tzB0NHiPrNnffGXu2Q/K+bKxqFm8vyILjFRrdymeyHAVA9cv6lwYv0HAu/WFj1rbVaw0/3sG0spOb109qSjC1QKTGlWiIgPycuZjB3uzBmJyFmj1FFH6Es1NcVpk68IffGjBQQRJM= Received: by 10.65.155.4 with SMTP id h4mr305381qbo; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.182.15 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d2415e0604300144q67f93dbem3a947ed3de908e98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:44:29 +0100 From: "lawrence mayhead" To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.113,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.713,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: Reports Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22513_25308582.1146386669070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5810 ------=_Part_22513_25308582.1146386669070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline NA and XES seen night of 28/29 April XGJ seen 29/30 April All around local dawn. 73 Laurie G3AQC ------=_Part_22513_25308582.1146386669070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline NA and XES seen night of 28/29 April
XGJ seen 29/30 April
All around local dawn.
73  Laurie G3AQC
------=_Part_22513_25308582.1146386669070-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202239609943597663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5cc5da2b309d1efe9ab7b1bdda58548d41dbbcf2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs27782wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.242.3 with SMTP id p3mr233323nfh; Mon, 01 May 2006 23:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si1932825nfb.2006.05.01.23.06.03; Mon, 01 May 2006 23:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fanz9-0004dQ-LH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 07:03:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fanz5-0004dH-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 07:03:43 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FapqC-0001Ut-UC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 09:03:02 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661E77313E for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 08:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4456F629.4050400@online.fr> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 08:03:21 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.599 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5818 Hello J-P and all ! The last night I copy: WD2XGJ and VO1NA (traces) the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht Jean-Pierre F5YJ a =E9crit : > Less than one hour, abt 0215 =3D=3D> 0300z. > 73 ! > F5YG > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202239609943597663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c32f8566e7f74455a2466fec695e4ef8f182b148 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs26294wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 21:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.95.8 with SMTP id x8mr198621nfl; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23si63844nfc.2006.05.01.21.43.57; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Famfo-0004CQ-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 05:39:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Famfo-0004CH-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 05:39:44 +0100 Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fao5J-00049G-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 07:10:13 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D9B42400195 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 06:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.112]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 97AB42400193 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 06:39:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060502043922621.97AB42400193@mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 06:39:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> <003701c66d08$6eee1320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.672 Subject: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5819 Less than one hour, abt 0215 ==> 0300z. 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202168615214689420 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5fc8493e3c0bc642cc97972ea0d393e872463ffc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1393wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 02:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.18.10 with SMTP id v10mr3247689nfi; Mon, 01 May 2006 02:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si1152263nfe.2006.05.01.02.55.31; Mon, 01 May 2006 02:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaV6d-0007BJ-T7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 10:54:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaV6d-0007BA-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 10:54:15 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaWxU-0001sW-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:53:14 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FaV5M-0007Yu-03; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:52:56 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VOcpdkZrreT0UvKBOhlFF3EAdm3gafVcafi6zN2GtJHBuyOpHgfR68@[84.133.105.80]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FaV58-1KDLay0; Mon, 1 May 2006 11:52:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 11:50:42 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <505873271.20060501115042@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VOcpdkZrreT0UvKBOhlFF3EAdm3gafVcafi6zN2GtJHBuyOpHgfR68 X-TOI-MSGID: 275b2cb8-3a13-4d6a-9cff-adbdc9510e80 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.917 Subject: LF: T/A and EU signals Apr, 30/May, 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5833 Copied VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS. On the WD2XNS signal appeared a lot of fading. Again a lot of activity on 137.7 kHz last night. Very good reception of IK5ZPV and RU6LA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204788421919416337 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d67280d768e9638da853bfb7cf04ea75f0b8414e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs10002wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.5 with SMTP id z5mr48361nfk; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si5649475nfe.2006.05.30.14.09.46; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlBQt-0000OI-77 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 22:07:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlBQs-0000O9-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 22:07:18 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FlBQo-0000wr-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 22:07:18 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:13348 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FlBQn-000E61-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:07:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c6842d$00763760$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 23:07:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.412 Subject: LF: Re: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5834 Hello Andy, I just copied your beacon on 1960 kHz. Four power steps could be heard, indicating that the signal is 18 dB over the noise in a 700 Hz bandwidth. Date: May 30, 21:01 UTC Receiver: JRC NRD 91 Antenna: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip mounted in half a fim canister and 5 meter up a magnolia tree. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Middelburg Netherlands, JO11tm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204788421919416337 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ee1c9bf57522e8c1d7944a39f8e0a4aeb9c55d80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8461wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr2524041ugm; Tue, 30 May 2006 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si5192524ugc.2006.05.30.00.56.13; Tue, 30 May 2006 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkyym-0005zG-Tz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:49:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fkyym-0005z7-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:49:28 +0100 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fkyyi-0001aG-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:49:28 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-11.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.11] helo=captbrian) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Fkyye-000IL1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:49:21 +0100 Message-ID: <003301c683bc$8d8c24a0$11c428c3@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <005201c68335$ab37bd20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:42:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Experimental MF Beacon test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5835 Nothing heard 0800 . are you running continuously? Where is the transmitter? Bryan Nr. Brighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: "LF Group" Cc: "API(Work)" ; "API(Home)" ; "WKL" ; "Alan Melia" Sent: 29 May 2006 16:36 Subject: LF: Experimental MF Beacon test > I am currently testing a low power experimental beacon on 1960.000kHz +/- > 1Hz. > It uses a transmission format similar to that of the 5MHz beacons, > GB3RAL/WES > and ORK, execpt that the sounder sequence is replaced by a PSK31 message. > > The sequence transmitted is : > T+0s CW Callsign > T+7 - T+15s Nine power steps with the output reduced by 6dB each time > for a total of -48dB > T+16 - T+24 A repeat of the power steps. > T+25 - T+30 Full power (level measurement reference period) > T+30 - T+47 PSK31 data > T+47 - T+59 Full power > > The reference time T starts at one minute past the hour and repeats every 15 > minutes, so transmissions occur at 01, 16, 31 and 46 minutes past the hour. > > If the 'GB3RAL' monitoring software is used for logging this signal, the > transmission will be shown and recorded as if it were that from GB3WES. > > The transmissions will continue overnight, and will hopefully be switched on > for > subsequent evening & overnight runs. Power output is 3Watts to my 7m high > Tee antenna - esimated gain -9dBd > > The beacon hardware consists of an identical DDS and PIC controller to that > used on GB3VHF, although without the GPS locking; frequency is derived from > a TCXO alone. A Motorola Oncore GPS module controls timing. Completely new > PIC software uses the 12 bits of amplitude control possible within the > AD9852 DDS chip to generate the power steps directly rather than having to > use a separate programmable attenuator as was done for the 5MHz beacons. > The PSK31 envelope is directly generaed at RF by looking up 250 > half-sinewave > amplitude values for each 31.25 baud symbol at a sampling rate of 7812.5Hz. > > Full details of both the 5MHz beacon designs and the driver for GB3VHF can > be > found on the website below > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 2006-05-28 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203366645370011415 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d86b46dee51314b7df383b632dfb87f6322ebeff Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs709wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr1312846nfe; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si1137939nfc.2006.05.14.08.17.42; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfII4-0001GM-5Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:13:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfII3-0001GD-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 16:13:51 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfJnd-0001Tr-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:50:38 +0100 Received: from [149.225.146.2] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2ov-1FfIHx3HxZ-0003On; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:13:46 +0200 Message-ID: <006f01c67768$fee87870$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <00c301c671c4$ed208d20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <002101c67676$a1f62740$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:13:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.052 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2BO now on 440.040 kHz -- update May 7, 2996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5836 Hello Roelof, thank you for your measurements, especially in comparison to the NDBs around me. i need to confirm the ERP of the NDBs so I can confirm my own ERP. I made a measurement myslf and it seems that instead of the calculated ERP I only have less than 1 W ERP with 130 Watt output. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO now on 440.040 kHz -- update May 7, 2996 > Hello Geri, > > The band is nice and quiet at the moment. > I have checked the following stations you mentioned in your e-mail of May 7. > The signal strength is noted relative to DI2BO's signal. > > Time 10:00 UTC, local noon. > > Braunschweig, BRU, 427 kHz, no copy > Celle, CEL, 311 kHz, no copy > Hannover, HA, 320 kHz, 440 km, on carrier at 420.000 kHz + 10 dB > Wunstorf, WUN, 419 kHz, 416 km, on upper sideband 420.039 kHz - 10 dB > Hannover, HW, 358 kHz, no copy > Hannover, HAE, 332 kHz, 424 km, on upper sideband 333.021 kHz - 2 dB > B�ckeburg, BYC, 368 kHz, 388 km, on lower sideband, + 4 dB > > The signal of DI2BO is 15 dB over my noise floor. > All stations suffer from fast QSB +/- 0.5 dB. > > Receiver: W & G SPM-30, bandwidth 24 Hz > 20 dB tuneable pre-amplifier > Antenna: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip, 5 metre up. > > 73, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202618848799057629 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 214f271f7fc2fb9d391321fed2c3f10aa589617b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs29683wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 02:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.160.16 with SMTP id m16mr80324qbo; Sat, 06 May 2006 02:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si24967qbd.2006.05.06.02.11.47; Sat, 06 May 2006 02:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcIn4-00015E-Gp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:09:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcIn3-000155-Uz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:09:30 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcKEc-0005iL-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 11:42:06 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FcImy-0002ji-04; Sat, 06 May 2006 11:09:24 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Vsph3UZpYeWyQerRMCpTghTiGoXPvRqgaRuVjYa9TpSfQA4rg6V3Qk@[84.133.120.243]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FcImc-1V69c80; Sat, 6 May 2006 11:09:02 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 11:08:59 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <914520175.20060506110859@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Vsph3UZpYeWyQerRMCpTghTiGoXPvRqgaRuVjYa9TpSfQA4rg6V3Qk X-TOI-MSGID: 266e124a-e7c8-42d5-89a9-b2025fcced84 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.838 Subject: LF: T/A May, 5/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5841 The good T/A conditions continued last night. Saw only WD2XES and VO1NA active. Good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA 23:00-03:30. There was a lot of the "CW-blur" from the 5wpm signal visible on the slow screen but always below the audible threshold. Good copy of WD2XES 02:10-03:30. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204565737372902385 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b47623f16adb4b75c19fe6d3afdbb229b76799d4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs28755wra; Sat, 27 May 2006 13:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.10 with SMTP id n10mr570219nfj; Sat, 27 May 2006 13:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si1941126nfc.2006.05.27.13.56.45; Sat, 27 May 2006 13:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fk5k8-0000Bz-4h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 May 2006 21:50:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fk5k7-0000Bp-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 May 2006 21:50:39 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fk5k3-0006DN-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 May 2006 21:50:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 68660 invoked from network); 27 May 2006 20:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.239.163 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2006 20:49:29 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 21:50:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.245,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C681D7.99CC1B80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5845 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C681D7.99CC1B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit very quite on the reflector today... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of whitehead@gonuts4free.com Sent: 27 May 2006 12:11 To: LF Group Subject: LF: Test Test ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C681D7.99CC1B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
very=20 quite on the reflector today...
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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C681D7.99CC1B80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203579896624443661 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f43be7987fa5f7d3897199117dfbf6db5a03e672 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs58357wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.23.1 with SMTP id a1mr269028nfj; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x27si1427748nfb.2006.05.16.16.47.14; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg9DG-0003Ah-1D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 00:44:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg9DF-0003AY-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 00:44:25 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FgB9u-0002nz-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 02:49:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 83755 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 23:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.130.213 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2006 23:44:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c67942$9baac3e0$d5828351@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001401c6793b$59916510$2201a8c0@PC2> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 00:43:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.960 Subject: LF: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5850 Hi Jose Daytime maintenance to do with the move next year see http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msfoutages.html for all the details Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Manuel To: Sent: 16 May 2006 23:52 Subject: LF: MSF off the air Hello all: Does anybody know why MSF is off the air? 73, Jos�, EA1PX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203997925931527886 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0ad4a5d012170a3432898474da982b4c1ed8055e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs130072wra; Mon, 22 May 2006 05:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.12 with SMTP id d12mr3743742nfg; Mon, 22 May 2006 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si5286435nfb.2006.05.22.05.46.41; Mon, 22 May 2006 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi9hN-0007Ll-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 13:39:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fi9hM-0007Lc-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 13:39:48 +0100 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FiBGn-0000IN-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 15:20:33 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556AF3.cable.casema.nl [83.85.106.243]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D868F8BE3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:37:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060522143054.02ba9d20@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:39:08 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Dick Rollema In-Reply-To: <453.109bfd8.31a20296@aol.com> References: <453.109bfd8.31a20296@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0621-0, 22-05-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.978,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: SAQ 17.2 kHz Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="=====================_16063765==.REL" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5858 --=====================_16063765==.REL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_16063767==.ALT" --=====================_16063767==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To All from PA0SE John wrote >The control circuitry for an alternator transmitter takes into account >that the drive motor needs to receive more power during key down than >during key up condition. The key not only drives the magnetic amplifier >that passes or shuts off RF, but also an auxiliary circuit that throttles >back power to the motor when the key is up. There is a grand rheostat to >trim the key-up speed to match the key-down speed. However, I expect this >is a fairly delicate balancing act; and, I don't believe the motor control >system can respond quite as quickly to a state change as the magnetic >amplifier does. > >John Here is a circuit diagram of the SAQ station. To get it through the reflector I had to compress it heavily. But you can recognise the magnetic amplifier at the right. When the key is down a dc current saturates the core and the aerial circuit is closed. In two of the phases feeding the notor transformer like objects can be seen. at the left. In reality these are chokes with a secondary winding carrying dc current saturating the core when the key is down. The rheostat John mentions is in the rotor circuit of the motor and can be seen above the motor. 73, Dick, PA0SE Fig. 3c.jpg --=====================_16063767==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" To All from PA0SE

John wrote


The control circuitry for an alternator transmitter takes into account that the drive motor needs to receive more power during key down than during key up condition.  The key not only drives the magnetic amplifier that passes or shuts off RF, but also an auxiliary circuit that throttles back power to the motor when the key is up.  There is a grand rheostat to trim the key-up speed to match the key-down speed.  However, I expect this is a fairly delicate balancing act; and, I don't believe the motor control system can respond quite as quickly to a state change as the magnetic amplifier does.
 
John

Here is a circuit diagram of the SAQ station. To get it through the reflector I had to compress it heavily. But you can recognise the magnetic amplifier at the right. When the key is down a dc current saturates the core and the aerial circuit is closed.  In two of the phases feeding the notor transformer like objects can be seen. at the left. In reality these are chokes with a secondary winding carrying dc current saturating the core when the key is down.
The rheostat John mentions is in the rotor circuit of the motor and can be seen above the motor. 

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The control circuitry for an alternator transmitter takes into account=20= that the drive motor needs to receive more power during key down than during= key up condition.  The key not only drives the magnetic amplifier that= passes or shuts off RF, but also an auxiliary circuit that throttles back p= ower to the motor when the key is up.  There is a grand rheostat to tri= m the key-up speed to match the key-down speed.  However, I expect this= is a fairly delicate balancing act; and, I don't believe the motor con= trol system can respond quite as quickly to a state change as the magne= tic amplifier does.
 
John
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After seeing the posting about the SAQ transmissions = on=20 17.2kHz here, I thought I would try patching my audio spectrum = analyser=20 program to sample at 48kHz instead of it's usual 8kHz. This would let me = copy up=20 to 24kHz without having to plug in the soldering iron. It seemed to work = find on=20 my new laptop, which it wouldn't have done on the slow old machine for=20 which I originally wrote the program. With a 6m whip plugged = straight=20 into the laptop mike socket, the result was surprisingly=20 good:-
 
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What puzzles me is the UPWARD chirp. If putting the = key down=20 increases the load on the generator, wouldn't this slow it down and make = the=20 transmission chirp downwards?  Or is it that the generator is = free-running=20 slightly low and when the key goes down the generator is pulled UPWARDS = onto the=20 antenna resonant frequency?
 
73
Peter G3PLX
 
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tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5880 -------------------------------1148850598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Back in time 6 years ago??? 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> Back in time 6 years ago???
 
Well, it is an historic station, after all...
 
 
-------------------------------1148850598-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204637131786567581 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a75f8248c5e0f487cacc72bfbaa8acd017512ee2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs46765wra; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.3.20 with SMTP id 20mr1052401nfc; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2820108nfc.2006.05.28.08.51.32; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNW9-0002a2-K6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:49:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FkNW6-0002Zt-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:49:22 +0100 Received: from bay118-dav13.bay118.hotmail.com ([207.46.8.151] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FkNW1-00080Z-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 May 2006 16:49:22 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:48:50 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.79.248 by BAY118-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 28 May 2006 15:48:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.79.248] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: References: <200605281235.k4SCZo7m027366@mx-in-02.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 10:48:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0026.0800 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 28 May 2006 10:48:49 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2006 15:48:50.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[36A64E80:01C6826E] X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.966,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Re: URGENT: SAQ-transmission Sep 2, 2000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013D_01C68244.4D9D4FA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5881 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C68244.4D9D4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back in time 6 years ago??? Mike WE0H ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Costas Krallis To:=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: LF: URGENT: SAQ-transmission Sep 2, 2000 Sorry for cross-posting, but this one is really urgent. 73 Costas > From: Lars K=E5lland To: ... > Subject: SAQ-transmission > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:03:48 +0200 > > INFORMATION > > There will be a short transmission with the Grimeton Radio/SAQ > transmitter on 17,2 kHz to a conference in London today, September > the 2nd 2000 at 18:00 UTC. > > An opportunity to check your receivers. > > > No QSL-reports are required. > > > > Regards > > SM6NM/Lars > ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C68244.4D9D4FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back in time 6 years ago???
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Costas Krallis
To:
Cc: rsgb_lf_group
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:35 = AM
Subject: LF: URGENT: = SAQ-transmission Sep=20 2, 2000


Sorry for cross-posting, but this one is really=20 urgent.

73 Costas



> From: Lars K=E5lland=20 <sm6nm
> To: ...
> Subject: SAQ-transmission
> = Date: Sat,=20 2 Sep 2000 12:03:48 +0200
>
> INFORMATION
>
> = There=20 will be a short transmission with the Grimeton Radio/SAQ
> = transmitter=20 on 17,2 kHz to a conference in London today, September
> the 2nd = 2000 at=20 18:00 UTC.
>
> An opportunity to check your=20 receivers.
>
>
> No QSL-reports are=20 required.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>=20 SM6NM/Lars
>


------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C68244.4D9D4FA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203257641254373069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dfbeaf408db2eaf7e41bac122a477e77376d5f32 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs64298wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.225.3 with SMTP id x3mr464246nfg; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si3005749nfc.2006.05.13.03.25.07; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FerEY-0005EO-5B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:20:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FerEX-0005EF-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:20:25 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fet9w-0006Yd-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 13:24:03 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20366 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FerD5-0008v4-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 10:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c67676$a1f62740$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000801c670ef$5b018a00$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <00c301c671c4$ed208d20$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:18:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.041 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO now on 440.040 kHz -- update May 7, 2996 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5883 Hello Geri, The band is nice and quiet at the moment. I have checked the following stations you mentioned in your e-mail of May 7. The signal strength is noted relative to DI2BO's signal. Time 10:00 UTC, local noon. Braunschweig, BRU, 427 kHz, no copy Celle, CEL, 311 kHz, no copy Hannover, HA, 320 kHz, 440 km, on carrier at 420.000 kHz + 10 dB Wunstorf, WUN, 419 kHz, 416 km, on upper sideband 420.039 kHz - 10 dB Hannover, HW, 358 kHz, no copy Hannover, HAE, 332 kHz, 424 km, on upper sideband 333.021 kHz - 2 dB B�ckeburg, BYC, 368 kHz, 388 km, on lower sideband, + 4 dB The signal of DI2BO is 15 dB over my noise floor. All stations suffer from fast QSB +/- 0.5 dB. Receiver: W & G SPM-30, bandwidth 24 Hz 20 dB tuneable pre-amplifier Antenna: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip, 5 metre up. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202887654371031326 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9868e299f6d2644fbcb33565c610667190694156 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs24346wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 01:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.2 with SMTP id o2mr1902133nfh; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si3141251nfa.2006.05.09.01.24.20; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdNRO-0005YU-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 09:19:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdNRO-0005YL-0t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 09:19:34 +0100 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdOuO-0003vY-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:53:40 +0100 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so1151668wra for ; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:18:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dK2cJ9XIRLgnvQx4Y+yTZBP6HxvXjzEVpPtVMrcVletMYBP8IPxvvYWmmBoT/jyS3+e+SSca5v+7ZZ2+W2qUcRsyRuBOstyXF50OSiYDfetFFkxdvBZSgMxVw2I25ZXt0giqLaZbZnonl/t/KVPd6Afs6GpVAK8oqyYTzaWtct0= Received: by 10.54.71.4 with SMTP id t4mr3371006wra; Tue, 09 May 2006 01:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.72.15 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2006 01:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8bf118410605090118n54534ef6sec88d72f15fbae55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 09:18:27 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.724,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.713,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: T/A last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9128_10868533.1147162707472" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5884 ------=_Part_9128_10868533.1147162707472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Flat as a pancake last night. Only traces seen -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_9128_10868533.1147162707472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Flat as a pancake last night. Only traces seen

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= G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_Part_9128_10868533.1147162707472-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1201067946313236139 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d5a140a756241e371d087f18ea3d18ee3a80a036 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs14798wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 00:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.2 with SMTP id o2mr315763nfh; Wed, 10 May 2006 00:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si4319861nfc.2006.05.10.00.34.42; Wed, 10 May 2006 00:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdj7O-0000bF-HP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:28:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fdj7N-0000b6-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5894 Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 a =E9crit : > > Hi all on the list ! > > The last night , > Verry verry strong static activity > > Only copy VO1NA > > the capture of the night are on : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203548373270984238 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 66c110d4e52be776ce140ece5310a77b0295dd81 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs40123wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr4422450nzw; Tue, 16 May 2006 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15si1302878nzp.2006.05.16.08.26.08; Tue, 16 May 2006 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg1LV-0001qd-5b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:20:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg1LU-0001qU-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:20:24 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg2s3-0006ZN-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:58:11 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.197.126]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060516152011m11009ahove>; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:20:11 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter16.comcast.net; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:20:09 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:20:09 +0000 Message-Id: <051620061520.11708.4469EDA8000C1BF900002DBC22058864420B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.903,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ OFF X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5899 Hello the lists, WD2XGJ will be off the air due to storms, high static and tidying up around the hamshack (Experimental station WD2XGJ shares space and resources with it's amateur radio affiliate K2ORS). -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202676304961678489 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a4acc427bcbb4f28159c9713545b669fe7170b1c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs48007wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.49.18 with SMTP id w18mr109930nfw; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si483278nfc.2006.05.06.17.25.02; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcX3K-0004B4-HB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:23:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcX3K-0004Av-3X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:23:14 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcYwJ-0007pO-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 03:24:22 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FcX34-0002DK-00; Sun, 07 May 2006 02:22:58 +0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (G-Z6tgZe8eYAY+sDNwNrWSvJQA0VNYgYczMJ4ftFDlYU3RiyWssFUJ@[84.145.220.101]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1FcX2z-06Jqgz0; Sun, 7 May 2006 02:22:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de (Hans-Joachim Brandt) To: "RSGB LF-Group-Server" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0036 Date: 07 May 2006 00:22 GMT Message-ID: <1FcX2z-06Jqgz0@fwd35.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: G-Z6tgZe8eYAY+sDNwNrWSvJQA0VNYgYczMJ4ftFDlYU3RiyWssFUJ X-TOI-MSGID: afacd1a0-6ae6-4f8e-ac29-3fdce7546921 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.274 Subject: LF: DI2BO Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5914 Dear all, DI2BO was audible in eastern Bavaria (JN68GN) around 22.45 gmt with S5, ant= enna noise S1. Receiving antenna has been a longwire 32 meters. Later on DI2BO became interfered by another carrier and could be read only = in periods when this carrier had sufficient QSB, insofar the same observati= on as reported by EA1PX. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203537363112811572 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 67bb29c4ab419b7e0a765cdb1024d42e4feba85b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs32583wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.49.14 with SMTP id b14mr3281760nfk; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si855036nfb.2006.05.16.05.31.11; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffyer-0001A2-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:28:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffyeq-00019t-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:28:12 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47] helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg0BM-0004oK-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 15:05:56 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060516122802.MNWE29343.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:28:02 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060516122802.MOOU16086.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:28:02 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:27:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4469D35D.2452.2A89E0@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.442,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Rope answers Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5974 Many thanks to all those who replied to my enquiry about rope for hauling up antenna masts. The general view seemed to be that polyester was better than polypropylene or nylon. Whilst at my local DiY store looking for something else, I noticed some polyester rope that was also green and therefore suitable for use in trees. I bought =A340-worth - it wasn't cheap. The first thing I noticed was that it did not tangle as easily as polyprop. Unfortunately, when I put it to use I found it was too springy to do the job - my efforts went to counteracting the spring and not raising the antenna mast. I am back to using my blue polyprop. This seems to have most of the required qualities, except for the colour and the fact that it will have to be renewed every few years. Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cab29f68faf82a29247ca95d09461f34921ec7ff Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs15810wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 00:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.80.7 with SMTP id h7mr429858nfl; Thu, 04 May 2006 00:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si414096nfc.2006.05.04.00.20.08; Thu, 04 May 2006 00:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbY4C-0004eR-U9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 08:16:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbY4C-0004eI-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 08:16:04 +0100 Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbZw8-00058S-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 10:16:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03011D78D1 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33421D757C for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:15:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ED5332775; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:15:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C91332762 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:15:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20060504092227.0130f1b0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 09:24:09 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <005201c66efb$f2d43d00$cdf24fd8@nad6f51291296b> References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44585C6A.9010400@wp.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.873,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6022 Dear Lewis, I am not sure that you can photograph UV with a digital camera. If there is any glass (lenses) in the optic path it will absorb the UV. 73, Rik ON7YD At 15:37 3/05/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Peter, >I don't know if Photo meter is sensitive to UV or not, you could turn all >the lights out and see if you get a reading. or take a piece of film and >see if you get anything. If you have a digital camera, try taking a >picture in the dark. > >Lewis > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a3f4a17f69d1f555540eaedca86cc89de895283 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs4632wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.6 with SMTP id z6mr129477nfk; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si274451nfc.2006.05.03.14.55.43; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbPHk-0003Y2-5o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:53:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbPHj-0003Xt-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:53:27 +0100 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbR9X-0001qt-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 00:53:24 +0100 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([216.79.242.205]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060503215304.JQXB8512.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 17:53:04 -0400 Received: from nad6f51291296b ([216.79.242.205]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20060503215301.DLKI18307.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@nad6f51291296b> for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 17:53:01 -0400 Message-ID: <005201c66efb$f2d43d00$cdf24fd8@nad6f51291296b> From: "Lewis" To: References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44585C6A.9010400@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 15:37:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6023 Hi Peter, I don't know if Photo meter is sensitive to UV or not, you could turn all the lights out and see if you get a reading. or take a piece of film and see if you get anything. If you have a digital camera, try taking a picture in the dark. Lewis From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b74f255b7fcf95b7d9850a670880b67a338bee90 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs25829wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 05:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.217.9 with SMTP id p9mr1350151nfg; Wed, 03 May 2006 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si5232698nfc.2006.05.03.05.24.26; Wed, 03 May 2006 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbGKv-0002UX-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 13:20:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbGKu-0002UO-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 13:20:08 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbHl4-00040m-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 14:51:18 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 2994 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 14:19:57 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 3 May 2006 14:19:57 +0200 Message-ID: <44589FEC.9090403@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 14:19:56 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44585C6A.9010400@wp.pl> <001a01c66e96$36d6e2c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <001a01c66e96$36d6e2c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(0.992869) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.260 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6024 Hello Peter and all, Peter Martinez wrote: >> From G3PLX: > Marek: > > That's interesting about the tape. [...] That was my first thought to check the colour, unfortunately the colour itself did not degrade. It was the blue tape, and the blue tape does not lose the colour as easily as for instance the red one sold in Poland (which becomes almost white when used outdoors). > > John's suggestion to look or hear (or smell) the corona, is also a > good idea, but then we need also to ask the experts if it's true that > there is always UV radiation associated with corona. I don't know > enough about it myself. I don't hear nor see nor smell the corona and - believe me - I have my eyes open for such anomalies. Anyway, I have the new coil ready to put on the roof. I will try to shield the TX as well. The open question is whether high voltage wire itself may cause UV radiation, even when the voltage is too low for more spectacular coronal effects to become noticeable. 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fa6b9f29429f13d90eb8b673d1bbab2291517c42 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs22712wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 02:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.23.9 with SMTP id a9mr254922nfj; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si3807622nfc.2006.05.03.02.46.38; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDul-00028p-Sg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:44:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDul-00028g-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:44:59 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbFKq-0003co-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 12:16:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 9348 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 09:44:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.21 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2006 09:44:47 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c66e96$36d6e2c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44585C6A.9010400@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:44:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.335 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6025 >From G3PLX: Marek: That's interesting about the tape. I cannot picture exactly what you have there, but it's well-known that some materials will degrade (e.g. lose colour) quickly when exposed to UV, so you may be able to see that coloured tapes in some parts of the coil enclosure have become faded, and in other parts they have not, and you should be able to relate this to whether there is a line-of-sight from the places where the tape is located to the places where the corona is likely. Especially if there are some places where there is one layer or tape partly over another, it should be possible to deduce from the pattern of fading that the outer layer has been exposed to UV and the inner layer has not. John's suggestion to look or hear (or smell) the corona, is also a good idea, but then we need also to ask the experts if it's true that there is always UV radiation associated with corona. I don't know enough about it myself. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7b6a6cac6f50397a3e3a439514f5fb53509de11c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20761wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 00:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.9.14 with SMTP id m14mr223735nfi; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si1107349nfb.2006.05.03.00.35.11; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBrJ-0001Y0-Sh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:33:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBrJ-0001Xo-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:33:17 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbDiu-0003fr-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:32:59 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 3917 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 09:31:55 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 May 2006 09:31:55 +0200 Message-ID: <44585C6A.9010400@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 09:31:54 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(1.000000) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.081 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6026 Hello Peter, I think that some colour magazine in Poland added an 'UV checker' in the past, if I don't find it, maybe it will appear again this summer. It was a piece of plastic with a field changing it's colour depending on the level of UV radiation. Maybe it can be bought in a cosmetic store as well. What could be an indirect prove of the UV radiation is the look of insulating tape - the tape outside the coil (thus exposed to HV wires) is slightly different in touch and almost without glue. The same tape inside the coil, where apart from the variometer are no wires, is almost like new. The tape is used to hold the antenna current meter. 73! Marek SQ5BPM Peter Martinez wrote: >> From G3PLX: > > Marek: > > My suggestion about UV was based on your description of the symptoms, > and it sounds as if you agree with this, but I think it would be most > useful if, before you modify the installation to remove the problem, > you take some steps to make a positive verification that there is UV > radiation. You have said it's not enough to show on a banknote. If you > do not make a POSITIVE test for UV, it will be possible to make a > wrong conclusion, and this could be important for the future. > > Does anyone know of a way to test for UV exposure? As Rik says, it's > the total dose that will give the burning, so maybe what is needed is > a scientific way to measure UV dose. How do they check UV sunbeds? > Maybe there is some way the experts can test that UV suntan beds are > safe to use, and you could contact these people and see if they can > tell you how to check for sure. > > One idea that occurs to me (because I have the equipment here to try > it myself) is to see if an EPROM is erased near to the possible UV > source, and make some tests to see how long it takes to erase it > compared to exposure to a known intensity UV lamp. But maybe it takes > too long. I know it takes a long time to erase an EPROM with sunlight. > > In the meantime you can protect yourself from the UV simply by hiding > the coil behind an opaque sheet. > > 73 > Peter > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 34068ede4ea446eff00db4c41f16d943854caced Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20668wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 00:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.6 with SMTP id f6mr1151770nfi; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si389732nfc.2006.05.03.00.29.13; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBk2-0001RS-Ll for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:25:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBk2-0001RJ-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:25:46 +0100 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbDbd-0003ZF-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:25:28 +0100 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:14963 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbBiZ-000AyO-D9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:24:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c66e82$8e65adf0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:24:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.068 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6027 Hello Peter et all, >> Does anyone know of a way to test for UV exposure? << What about photosensitive PCB? 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 009666a39085e7e4bf41327adc04c87d9044a999 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20416wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 00:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.6 with SMTP id z6mr1151920nfk; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si374515nfb.2006.05.03.00.12.37; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBVW-0001KN-QA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:10:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBVW-0001KE-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 08:10:46 +0100 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbCvZ-0002z8-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 09:41:49 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.391.2c695ef (14502) for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 03:10:33 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <391.2c695ef.3189b168@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 03:10:32 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5055 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.542,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1146640232" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6028 -------------------------------1146640232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In the meantime you can protect yourself from the UV simply by hiding the coil behind an opaque sheet. This would be a good quick test in the absence of instrumentation. An UV photometer is not inexpensive. However, I would still not overlook better shielding for the transmitter. To date I have not seen mention of *other* indications of corona; namely, being able to hear the sizzle of the discharge, or actually being able to see it when the room is dark, or being able to smell the ozone it creates. IF there really is a corona producing enough UV to cause sunburn symptoms, it should be accompanied by enough of these other effects to get one's attention. John -------------------------------1146640232 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> In the meantime you can protect yourself from the UV simply by hid= ing the
coil behind an opaque sheet.
 
This would be a good quick test in the absence of instrumentation.=   An UV photometer is not inexpensive.
However, I would still not overlook better shielding for the transmitte= r.  To date I have not seen mention of *other* indicatio= ns of corona; namely, being able to hear the sizzle of the discharge, o= r actually being able to see it when the room is dark, or being able to= smell the ozone it creates.  IF there really is a corona producin= g enough UV to cause sunburn symptoms, it should be accompanied by enough of= these other effects to get one's attention.
 
John
 
-------------------------------1146640232-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b663b179ff84d2b57a032f3228786a68b98206bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs20075wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 23:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.17.13 with SMTP id u13mr1138935nfi; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si986913nfc.2006.05.02.23.51.12; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBAM-0001Ch-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:48:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbBAM-0001CY-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 07:48:54 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbD1w-00038K-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 09:48:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 64975 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 06:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.21 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2006 06:47:32 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c66e7d$745913c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 06:47:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.289 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6029 >From G3PLX: Marek: My suggestion about UV was based on your description of the symptoms, and it sounds as if you agree with this, but I think it would be most useful if, before you modify the installation to remove the problem, you take some steps to make a positive verification that there is UV radiation. You have said it's not enough to show on a banknote. If you do not make a POSITIVE test for UV, it will be possible to make a wrong conclusion, and this could be important for the future. Does anyone know of a way to test for UV exposure? As Rik says, it's the total dose that will give the burning, so maybe what is needed is a scientific way to measure UV dose. How do they check UV sunbeds? Maybe there is some way the experts can test that UV suntan beds are safe to use, and you could contact these people and see if they can tell you how to check for sure. One idea that occurs to me (because I have the equipment here to try it myself) is to see if an EPROM is erased near to the possible UV source, and make some tests to see how long it takes to erase it compared to exposure to a known intensity UV lamp. But maybe it takes too long. I know it takes a long time to erase an EPROM with sunlight. In the meantime you can protect yourself from the UV simply by hiding the coil behind an opaque sheet. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bc3dd08ca408fd27e3c2dbc9d854eb28d33439be Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs10929wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.20 with SMTP id k20mr174617nfe; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si908808nfc.2006.05.02.16.18.53; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb44z-0000Fx-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:14:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb44z-0000Fi-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:14:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fb5wP-0008R2-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:14:28 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 28749 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 01:14:27 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 3 May 2006 01:14:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 01:14:22 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(1.000000) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.093 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6030 Hello Rik and all, Now I am nearly sure this was the UVB, the result is almost like spending too much time at the sun, with the skin dry etc. This happened only on the side of my face directly exposed to the loading coil. Sincerely, I had no idea the coronal effect might be something to care about due to possible health injuries (excluding direct touching of a HV wire). Anyway, I will take an old plastic trash bin, wind some 100 turns and put it up on the roof, between the vertical antenna part and the top load. This will hopefully reduce the voltage and power losses inside the club room. The loading coil inside the club will then act only as the PA output matching network and a variometer. All in all, this is something to add in descriptions of loading coils: (invisible) coronal effects may cause UVB radiation that might be harmful for the skin after longer exposure. BTW I checked that the UV radiation level is not enough for the coil to act as a banknote checker ;) 73! Marek SQ5BPM Rik Strobbe wrote: > Marek, > > UV-light can cause irritation (or "burning") of the skin at > intensities far below what can be detected by UV-sensitive markers. > It's just a matter of how long you are exposed to it. > Maybe you could try a good "sun-block" cream (the ones you use when > going to the beach in summer) on you face. > If it is UV that causes the rash: glass blocks UV rather effective. It > would stop teh UV while still allowing visual control of the coil. > > 73, > Rik ON7YD & OR7T > > Citeren Marek SQ5BPM : > > >> Hello Peter, >> >> Peter Martinez wrote: >> >>>> From Peter G3PLX: >>>> >>> Marek: >>> >>> The 'rash' or 'burning' effect makes me think of sunburn or >>> >> exposure >> >>> to ultra-violet light. >>> >>> Could it be that there is some ionisation, perhaps due to high >>> voltages, which gives off UV radiation which could affect the skin >>> >> of >> >>> the face if it's directly in front of the operator? It would be >>> >> easy >> >>> to test this idea by operating the equipment in a low light level >>> >> and >> >>> probing the area with a some object that was known to be >>> >> fluorescent, >> >>> like a UV-sensitive marker pen. >>> >> I thought about something connected with the high voltage as well - >> maybe high electrostatic field etc. I didn't know that ionisation may >> >> cause UV radiation. I will check the idea, placing a banknote near >> the >> coil output ;) >> >> The UV idea makes sense, the rash appeared on the side of my face >> being >> in direct 'exposure' to the coil, not at the side of the >> transmitter. >> >> 73! Marek SQ5BPM >> >> >> > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2c05ae2f0b9f7fa8554030a09ee82da9f7e3e0b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs18453wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 14:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.255.3 with SMTP id c3mr14955nfi; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2068896nfc.2006.05.01.14.52.15; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FagHy-0002M7-C0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:50:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FagHx-0002Ly-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:50:41 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fai8z-0007Dz-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 00:49:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA724C5E9 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:50:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C964C83E for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F09332774; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455E333276C for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 100-172.240.81.adsl.skynet.be (100-172.240.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.240.172.100]) by webmail2.kuleuven.be (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:49:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:49:30 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 81.240.172.100 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6031 Marek, UV-light can cause irritation (or "burning") of the skin at intensities far below what can be detected by UV-sensitive markers. It's just a matter of how long you are exposed to it. Maybe you could try a good "sun-block" cream (the ones you use when going to the beach in summer) on you face. If it is UV that causes the rash: glass blocks UV rather effective. It would stop teh UV while still allowing visual control of the coil. 73, Rik ON7YD & OR7T Citeren Marek SQ5BPM : > Hello Peter, > > Peter Martinez wrote: > >> From Peter G3PLX: > > Marek: > > > > The 'rash' or 'burning' effect makes me think of sunburn or > exposure > > to ultra-violet light. > > > > Could it be that there is some ionisation, perhaps due to high > > voltages, which gives off UV radiation which could affect the skin > of > > the face if it's directly in front of the operator? It would be > easy > > to test this idea by operating the equipment in a low light level > and > > probing the area with a some object that was known to be > fluorescent, > > like a UV-sensitive marker pen. > > I thought about something connected with the high voltage as well - > maybe high electrostatic field etc. I didn't know that ionisation may > > cause UV radiation. I will check the idea, placing a banknote near > the > coil output ;) > > The UV idea makes sense, the rash appeared on the side of my face > being > in direct 'exposure' to the coil, not at the side of the > transmitter. > > 73! Marek SQ5BPM > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ec168d57360d26e7f23fc685d865d44aa8c54e99 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17990wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 14:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.255.3 with SMTP id c3mr7555nfi; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si3887259nfa.2006.05.01.14.34.59; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fag1N-0002Cp-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:33:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fag1N-0002Cg-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:33:33 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FahsR-00076I-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 00:32:42 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 8293 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 23:33:12 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 1 May 2006 23:33:12 +0200 Message-ID: <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 23:33:11 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO AS2=NO(0.821075) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.108 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6032 Hello Peter, Peter Martinez wrote: >> From Peter G3PLX: > Marek: > > The 'rash' or 'burning' effect makes me think of sunburn or exposure > to ultra-violet light. > > Could it be that there is some ionisation, perhaps due to high > voltages, which gives off UV radiation which could affect the skin of > the face if it's directly in front of the operator? It would be easy > to test this idea by operating the equipment in a low light level and > probing the area with a some object that was known to be fluorescent, > like a UV-sensitive marker pen. I thought about something connected with the high voltage as well - maybe high electrostatic field etc. I didn't know that ionisation may cause UV radiation. I will check the idea, placing a banknote near the coil output ;) The UV idea makes sense, the rash appeared on the side of my face being in direct 'exposure' to the coil, not at the side of the transmitter. 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 17bb145138b8a90f72ec5632a67da0e31c2d93fa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17608wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.9 with SMTP id f9mr5042nfi; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si1555417nfc.2006.05.01.14.19.34; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fafm8-00022g-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:17:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fafm8-00022X-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:17:48 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FahBU-0002dS-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 23:48:08 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 20411 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 23:17:35 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 1 May 2006 23:17:35 +0200 Message-ID: <44567AEF.30800@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 23:17:35 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <253.a04dd5e.3187c56d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <253.a04dd5e.3187c56d@aol.com> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(1.000000) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.325 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6033 Hello John and thank you for the reply. WarmSpgs@aol.com wrote: > Marek, I am not aware of effects like yours being reported from > exposure to much stronger LF fields at LORAN sites and other > transmitting facilities. The magnetic field 2 meters from a loading > coil handling 500 watts might be near or slightly above accepted > limits for human exposure at low frequencies, but not greatly in excess. That's what I thought about. Polish Radio 225 kHz transmitter had 2 MW of power and the staff has been working quite close. You probably know the story about it's 646m-high mast collapse in 1991 due to a human error during conservation. > However, as you surmise, you are not just being exposed to LF alone. > > The two middle items on your list are, far and away, the most likely > sources. In addition to the normal high-frequency components of the > switching waveform, it is possible for there to be surprising amounts > of UHF energy from parasitic oscillations during the on/off > transitions of the FETs. This depends a lot on circuit layout. I will check waveforms inside the circuit, but there cannot be too much power generated at high frequencies, because the power balance would be wrong. But, probably, I am unlucky and there is some kind of resonance at a few hundreds MHz and most of the oscillations concentrate at that range. > Your symptoms sound very much like a story I heard in my younger days > of an amateur radio operator whose unshielded high-power HF rig was > emitting parasitic oscillations in the high UHF range. He, too, > experienced a rash and other allergy or flu-like symptoms, and > eventually developed eye problems. I would very much encourage you > shield the rig adequately before further operation! Yes, that is the general plan, to move the whole TX to a new, better-designed enclosure. The current arrangement leaves too little place for the airflow, that's the only reason why the top cover is removed... I also heard a story about some jerk tuning an open 2m 1kW PA until a blood started to flow from his nose... Fortunately, no bloody symptoms here so far ;) 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0684fb54343f29115b9299a66be5ce36ff3e890c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17491wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 14:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.238.5 with SMTP id l5mr1609286nfh; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si2064291nfe.2006.05.01.14.15.10; Mon, 01 May 2006 14:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fafho-0001uW-U6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:13:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fafho-0001uN-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:13:20 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FahYr-0006wk-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 00:12:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 93744 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 21:11:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.159.228 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2006 21:11:58 -0000 Message-ID: <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 21:11:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.325 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6034 >From Peter G3PLX: Marek: The 'rash' or 'burning' effect makes me think of sunburn or exposure to ultra-violet light. Could it be that there is some ionisation, perhaps due to high voltages, which gives off UV radiation which could affect the skin of the face if it's directly in front of the operator? It would be easy to test this idea by operating the equipment in a low light level and probing the area with a some object that was known to be fluorescent, like a UV-sensitive marker pen. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 66db71b62eaaee08a7b24bbc7dfae393ef5a5992 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17085wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.255.20 with SMTP id c20mr1485859nfi; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2029118nfc.2006.05.01.13.55.23; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FafOR-0001lG-7u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:53:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FafOQ-0001l7-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:53:18 +0100 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FahFV-0006jk-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 23:52:28 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-30-78.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.30.78] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FafMx-000Dow-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:51:47 +0100 Message-ID: <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 22:17:38 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.114 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6035 Hi Marek Engineers and other workers at Rugby and Criggion worked in the presence of very high LF RF fields without (to my knowledge) adverse affects. There have been other high power LF transmitters, such at the 3MW installation in the USA (the name escapes me). If these sorts of health problems you describe were an issue would have been possible to operate and maintain such an installation? Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fe8b2e2518748903366dac07f10b7ce32fe43e62 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs16129wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 13:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.20 with SMTP id a20mr437595nfg; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si1539141nfc.2006.05.01.13.16.47; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Faek7-0001WT-2Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:11:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Faek6-0001WK-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 21:11:38 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fag9R-0002Jh-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 22:41:57 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.253.a04dd5e (3866) for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:11:25 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <253.a04dd5e.3187c56d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:11:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5055 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.987,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1146514285" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6036 -------------------------------1146514285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marek, I am not aware of effects like yours being reported from exposure to much stronger LF fields at LORAN sites and other transmitting facilities. The magnetic field 2 meters from a loading coil handling 500 watts might be near or slightly above accepted limits for human exposure at low frequencies, but not greatly in excess. However, as you surmise, you are not just being exposed to LF alone. The two middle items on your list are, far and away, the most likely sources. In addition to the normal high-frequency components of the switching waveform, it is possible for there to be surprising amounts of UHF energy from parasitic oscillations during the on/off transitions of the FETs. This depends a lot on circuit layout. Your symptoms sound very much like a story I heard in my younger days of an amateur radio operator whose unshielded high-power HF rig was emitting parasitic oscillations in the high UHF range. He, too, experienced a rash and other allergy or flu-like symptoms, and eventually developed eye problems. I would very much encourage you shield the rig adequately before further operation! 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Marek, I am not aware of effects like yours being reported from exposur= e to much stronger LF fields at LORAN sites and other transmitting facilitie= s.  The magnetic field 2 meters from a loading coil handling=20= 500 watts might be near or slightly above accepted limits for= human exposure at low frequencies, but not greatly in excess.
 
However, as you surmise, you are not just being exposed to LF alone.&nb= sp;
 
The two middle items on your list are, far and away, the most likely so= urces.  In addition to the normal high-frequency components o= f the switching waveform, it is possible for there to be surprising amounts=20= of UHF energy from parasitic oscillations during the on/off transitions of t= he FETs.  This depends a lot on circuit layout.
 
Your symptoms sound very much like a story I heard in my younger days o= f an amateur radio operator whose unshielded high-power HF rig was emit= ting parasitic oscillations in the high UHF range.  He, too, experience= d a rash and other allergy or flu-like symptoms, and eventually developed ey= e problems.  I would very much encourage you shield the rig adequately=20= before further operation!
 
John
 
 
-------------------------------1146514285-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 771c392dec19a5bb2bb259868be7c25557feda50 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs2636wra; Mon, 1 May 2006 04:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.65.10 with SMTP id s10mr222700nfk; Mon, 01 May 2006 04:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si1102670nfc.2006.05.01.04.12.14; Mon, 01 May 2006 04:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaWI8-0007iY-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:10:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaWI8-0007iP-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:10:12 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaXhG-0008RJ-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 13:40:19 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 15199 invoked from network); 1 May 2006 13:10:00 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 1 May 2006 13:10:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:09:58 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO AS2=YES(1.000000) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.746,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.47 Subject: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6037 Dear LFers, It happened to me for the 4th time. After long activity on LF I got a rash (or heat) on my face. Previously I related it to other things (like food, my dog etc.). Now, when I was inactive for months and it did not ever happen to me and after two days of activity I got it again, it seems to me it must be somehow connected with the LF transmitting. I suspect that this is due to one thing or everything connected, with decreasing order of probability: - the loading coil, generating a strong field around it and being only less than 2m from me most of the time, - air coils in final TX filter, which generate a wide range of spectrum from the incoming square wave, - square switching of final FETs causing a few watts to be radiated in the VHF/UHF spectrum, - the antenna itself, which starts indoors and goes up through the window, - grounding wires which cause some energy to be radiated inside the club room as well. The transmitter is in principle unshielded, only it's components are shielded against each other. The level of EMF in the club is noticeable, the 137kHz signal can be seen on CRT monitors as very subtle waves. Strange, because apart from microwave burns I didn't know that such power levels (500W) can cause any visible effects. I've been working on HF for years, including participation in major RTTY contests for 48h with full legal power and never observed such an effect. FYI, I am generally not acquiring any allergies etc. Has anybody seen that 'LF effect'? Or is that only my 'LF allergy'? ;) Google found this: http://www.aehf.com/articles/em_sensitive.html - interesting, that skin effects appeared in the 20-50 kHz range. 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204883185402304474 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73cf33f8ee44ee5b1e2133eeb5539da4bc1a7a9a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs10321wra; Wed, 31 May 2006 02:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr84089hua; Wed, 31 May 2006 02:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 39si1375955hug.2006.05.31.02.02.26; Wed, 31 May 2006 02:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlMRU-0001qT-Dr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 09:52:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlMRT-0001qK-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 09:52:39 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FlMRP-0004ES-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 09:52:39 +0100 Received: from 88-106-217-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.217.142]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 31 May 2006 09:52:20 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAJf1fESGAYNNLA Received: from 88-106-217-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.217.142]:1216 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FlMMc-0005tL-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 May 2006 09:47:38 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:52:22 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <003d01c6847b$4bf79b40$eace28c3@captbrian> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.536,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: New how to do? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6047 Hi Brian, I use MS Outlook 2000 & you can set up what is rather like a home page (called "Outlook Today") showing all your preferences such as a list of the folders (& other features such as messages, calendar, appointments etc) so you can see at a glance what e-mails you have in each box etc. I don't know if Outlook Express does the same but is is worth looking at. BTW Outlook 2000 came with MS Office 2000. 73, Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: 31 May 2006 07:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Yes thanks. Puzzled by no messages this morning, then remembered they were no longer in inbox LOL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202342910436616970 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 10d1b2429ebb9baaadb48b92e6121bbdd6c6d865 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs21306wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 01:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.6 with SMTP id f6mr1175570nfi; Wed, 03 May 2006 01:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si428980nfc.2006.05.03.01.05.52; Wed, 03 May 2006 01:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbCJo-0001go-MC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 09:02:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbCJo-0001gf-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 09:02:44 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbDjs-0003Bj-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:33:48 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FbCJj-0007uT-02; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:02:39 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rPS4jqZX8em4UiWdxPj7kjPfKBELloFsbcVNXytvOnmO7eFbucaI8s@[84.133.117.55]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FbCJW-284QMa0; Wed, 3 May 2006 10:02:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:02:24 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <609956751.20060503100224@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rPS4jqZX8em4UiWdxPj7kjPfKBELloFsbcVNXytvOnmO7eFbucaI8s X-TOI-MSGID: 0f7bee81-aee8-4f3e-97b0-ba2a816d6122 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.849 Subject: LF: T/A May, 2/3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6056 Copied VO1NA (QRSS30) 22:55-03:30, WD2XES 02:10-03:30 and WD2XGJ 01:25-03:30 last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203509705922402304 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f984c6e5c866036b979358d60479fd8b560292c5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs22047wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.59.16 with SMTP id m16mr2952660nfk; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si445807nfa.2006.05.15.22.11.35; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffrnu-0007vh-Fm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:09:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffrnu-0007vY-07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 06:09:06 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FftKG-0001PG-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:46:40 +0100 Received: from [89.51.51.249] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1Ffrno2Fhq-0001n1; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:09:01 +0200 Message-ID: <001101c678a6$d7252d80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:07:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.211,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285 Subject: LF: Daytime tranmission of DI2BO today will be regular CW (5 wpm) on 439,910 kHz, high power (which is less than 1 W ERP according to my measurements). 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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C678B7.695DEFB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203192819671565382 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 257a0879bbafaae8d7ed46d767a7054030b81c58 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs43155wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.236.6 with SMTP id n6mr1800292qbr; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si2972937qba.2006.05.12.10.14.48; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feb9L-0002Kv-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:09:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feb9K-0002Km-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:09:58 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fed4R-0005yH-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:13:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 13817 invoked from network); 12 May 2006 17:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.131.63 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2006 17:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c675e6$da5a0ba0$3f837ad5@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> <021f01c675e4$312af550$17c54354@MLB> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:09:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.945 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Rope? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6087 Hi Martin, yes but the stuff I have can have as short a life as 4 years in the sun. It does go brittle and breaks up.....what is worse in that state it leaves loads of little "needles" of plastic under the skin if you handle it without gloves. They dont seem to do any harm, but....... I have some 7mm pre-stretched polyester slated MARINE yacht ropes, made by British Ropes many years ago (1974). This is still doing sterling service as guying on my tower after more than 30 years. It has darkened (usefull as it "disappears" against the background of the trees) and does have a greenish look where it is supporting a colony of algae, but it seems to have not lost any of its strength. Its rated at about 1500pounds I think. I do use draw rope for a light-weight mast but replace it regularly. Unfortunately my old salt mine doesnt have a stores any more....we were able to make a personal purchases of rate-book items. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Evans. To: Sent: 12 May 2006 17:50 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? > > > > > > Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > =========== > > Mike - get to know a BT engineer and obtain some 6mm diameter "BT > Drawrope". > > This is blue, but the smoulder test indicates that it's definitely not > polypropylene, and it doesn't smell much like nylon either, though it might > be. > > I had a child's tyre swing in the garden for eight years, supended with > this, and apart from some colour loss there was no significant degradation > after all the abuse that it suffered. > > Martin > GW3UCJ > Swansea. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203436131598868840 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6447c8295c5dd810cbd453cd6aa8458216e88c83 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs23129wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.199.9 with SMTP id w9mr3265250nff; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si7346224nfc.2006.05.15.02.42.08; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZWZ-0004WX-4u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:37:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZWY-0004WO-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:37:58 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ffb2V-00014m-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:15:08 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-135.fen-net.de [212.204.117.15]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k4F9Vh4N021025 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:31:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002701c67804$0474bec0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:43:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.230,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the other side of the pond? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C67814.C76E2000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6136 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C67814.C76E2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Joze and Geri, the signal below DI2BO seems to be DI2AG with the transmission = part "QRSS 3", transmitted with only 0.4W ERP. 73 Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joze Konda An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2006 21:31 Betreff: LF: Re: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the = other side of the pond? Hello Geri UFB signal overnight...Below is W5QR...?! also FB. RIG: converter SO42P, TS900 (OT),IF 500Hz, ant. vert. 10m. Regards 73 , Joze S52AB , JN75OU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the = other side of the pond? Hello folks, the experimental beacon DI2BO will be QRV in QRSS3 on 440,040 kHz = during the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will start Friday night = (local time Germany) and will continue through Monday morning. I will = post details here later. Effecive radiated power will be around 5 Watt. So far the 5 wmp = conventional CW beacon has been heard well throughout Europe. QRSS3 = should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out there listening? Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C67814.C76E2000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Joze and Geri,
          the=20 signal below DI2BO seems to be DI2AG with the transmission part "QRSS = 3",=20 transmitted with only 0.4W ERP.
73   Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG
 
 
-----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Nachricht-----
Von: Joze Konda <s52abjoze@siol.net>
An: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Datum:=20 Sonntag, 14. Mai 2006 21:31
Betreff: LF: Re: DI2BO in = QRSS=20 during the weekend -- any takers on the other side of the=20 pond?

Hello Geri
 
UFB signal overnight...Below is = W5QR...?! also=20 FB.
RIG: converter SO42P, TS900 (OT),IF = 500Hz, ant.=20 vert. 10m.
 
Regards
 
73 , Joze S52AB , JN75OU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Holger = 'Geri', DK8KW=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 = 11:25=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2BO in QRSS = during the=20 weekend -- any takers on the other side of the pond?

Hello folks,
 
the experimental beacon DI2BO will = be QRV in=20 QRSS3 on 440,040 kHz during the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will = start=20 Friday night (local time Germany) and will continue through Monday = morning.=20 I will post details here later.
 
Effecive radiated power will be = around 5 Watt.=20 So far the 5 wmp conventional CW beacon has been heard well = throughout=20 Europe. QRSS3 should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out = there=20 listening?
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO = (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
  
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C67814.C76E2000-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203419036776766513 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 76f8454d51ca9efd547c8722fb28c4650a677861 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs17212wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.12 with SMTP id b12mr3106290nfi; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si3432869nfe.2006.05.14.22.10.26; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVIA-00043s-Ed for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:06:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfVI5-00043X-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:06:45 +0100 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfWnu-0007B6-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:43:48 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AA71654C for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44680C5C.6000503@online.fr> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:06:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))) X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.782 Subject: LF: T/A the last night VO1NA and WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6140 Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy: VO1NA WD2XGJ the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202894092663955509 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d33f53b934c7a052206eb2b7c90cc8db61774bfb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs26763wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 03:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.3.15 with SMTP id 15mr1978867nfc; Tue, 09 May 2006 03:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si684095nfa.2006.05.09.03.29.31; Tue, 09 May 2006 03:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdPQe-00063Y-26 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 11:26:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdPQY-00063P-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6209 Jay , TNX for info 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Jay Rusgrove a =E9crit : > Jean-Pierre, Dave > > Don't know about VO1NA...but other than a short transmission by XGJ I b= elieve all Part 5 stations > were off the air last night. > > Jay W1VD / WD2XNS > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202894092663955509 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f186ce852c227720beb14a93472ac01e9d23e6ce Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs26182wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.2 with SMTP id u2mr1963988nfl; Tue, 09 May 2006 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si3233138nfb.2006.05.09.03.06.40; Tue, 09 May 2006 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdP4e-0005w6-QI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6210 Jean-Pierre, Dave Don't know about VO1NA...but other than a short transmission by XGJ I believe all Part 5 stations were off the air last night. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202938511244872293 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 02dcfefda7cea21e19472579d273c0b561b19654 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs1236wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 14:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.3 with SMTP id d3mr2459858nfg; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si3798072nfa.2006.05.09.14.52.41; Tue, 09 May 2006 14:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fda6l-0007kh-0L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 22:51:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fda6k-0007kY-LA for 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Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6406 Hi all Dave, thank you for report, but, as you can see, there is no reply, perha= ps=20 tomorrow?; now I=B4m going to bed. 73 de Jos=E9, EA1PX ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:40 PM Subject: LF: EA1PX...report > Jose, LF, > > EA1PX "O" to "M" copy QRSS3 137,703 here this evening at 2130utc, plus=20 > some > static crashes. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff > Sent: 09 May 2006 16:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: T/A and EU activities May, 7/8 > > > No thunderstorms here last night. So I started the rx at 21:00 and > saw strong signals from IK5ZPV and EA1PX on 137.7 in QRSS10. Than > appeared UA4WPF on 137.777 kHz until 22:10. > From across the pond good copy of the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA > 23:00-03:30. WD2XGJ was visible 01:55-03:05 with one "XGJ" in QRSS60 > and then one in QRSS30. > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > www.h-wolff.de > Locator: JO52hp > > > > >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203391928636500792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 61a2206d025ad8390c1e446ecaaef9a690596c78 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs23357wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.199.9 with SMTP id w9mr3276088nff; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si3710847nfb.2006.05.15.02.58.23; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZkV-0004dA-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:52:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZkV-0004d1-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:52:23 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfbGR-0001GE-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:29:33 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.129.9) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.2.071) id 445913C4001AC612 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Message-ID: <008601c677fd$0adc9fa0$098124d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <000f01c67791$b365e300$2102000a@ibm> <004a01c677a1$50793ac0$d6277ad5@lark> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:53:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0619-3, 12/05/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.211 Subject: LF: Re: 'meter problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6408 15./05/2006 0934z Hello Dick and the list, I suggest a converter U/I with AOP the drive the galva in current. 73: Jeff F6CWN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick > To: > Sent: 14 May 2006 20:58 > Subject: LF: 'meter problem' > > > Hello all, > > I almost finished my new 136kHz transmitter, and after several hours of > fault-finding it seems to work upto > 600-700Watt DC input. > > However, I do have a 'problem' .......... > > Instead of using a 200uA meter for the forward and returned power, I'm > using > a 10mA meter. > This 10mA meter needs 53mV for full scale, internal resistance somewhere > around 6 Ohm. > When I put this meter into the G0MRF design it is a to heavy load for the > measurement circuit. > Open voltage drops from 13V to almost 0 V due to the low internal > resistamce. > This also effects the SWR protection circuit........ > > So, I did some experiments by using a FET or transistor as a driver for > the > meter. > The measurment circuit voltage is almost not effected by the meter circuit > now, however > it is very difficult to find a good setpoint for the meter....... > > i.e when doubling the power, the meter must read also twice the power. > Somehow I'm not able to get the right linearity or what ever. > > Anyone out there with a circuit diagram that does work? or suggestions. > > It is difficult to exchange the meter because I cannot easily reach the > mountingscrews anymore..... > So I have to use this 10mA meter........ > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203391928636500792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4f2ca5f344da79897710222cd7eea597af0b2061 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8877wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.217.20 with SMTP id p20mr3018431nfg; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si4884614nfc.2006.05.14.14.59.34; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOb8-00038b-Nz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:57:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfOb8-00038Q-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:57:58 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfQ6q-0004D0-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:34:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 34361 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 21:56:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.39.214 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2006 21:56:47 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c677a1$50793ac0$d6277ad5@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000f01c67791$b365e300$2102000a@ibm> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:25:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.997 Subject: LF: Re: 'meter problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6409 Dick, I may be wrong about this but the "power" linearity of the meter in the SWR circuit depends upon the diodes bring operated in their square law region. This requires the right range meter, because this supplies the load to the diodes....they are usually fairly easily obtainable these days from flea-markets though they may not always be scaled as you might expect. You may put an amplifier in the circuit but you must be sure the meter amplifier is linear and provides the correct load to the diodes. I would suggest you really should use an op-amp but I appreciate there is then a supply problem. I think it unlikely you will be able to retain the linear power calibation with just a single FET or BJT.....but is it important ?? you really only need an indication, and a indication of the tuning. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: 14 May 2006 20:58 Subject: LF: 'meter problem' > Hello all, > > I almost finished my new 136kHz transmitter, and after several hours of > fault-finding it seems to work upto > 600-700Watt DC input. > > However, I do have a 'problem' .......... > > Instead of using a 200uA meter for the forward and returned power, I'm using > a 10mA meter. > This 10mA meter needs 53mV for full scale, internal resistance somewhere > around 6 Ohm. > When I put this meter into the G0MRF design it is a to heavy load for the > measurement circuit. > Open voltage drops from 13V to almost 0 V due to the low internal > resistamce. > This also effects the SWR protection circuit........ > > So, I did some experiments by using a FET or transistor as a driver for the > meter. > The measurment circuit voltage is almost not effected by the meter circuit > now, however > it is very difficult to find a good setpoint for the meter....... > > i.e when doubling the power, the meter must read also twice the power. > Somehow I'm not able to get the right linearity or what ever. > > Anyone out there with a circuit diagram that does work? or suggestions. > > It is difficult to exchange the meter because I cannot easily reach the > mountingscrews anymore..... > So I have to use this 10mA meter........ > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202637624850508995 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6b825c8fa5b83c652dfcd29a855146f2f658790f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs35394wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 07:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.234.18 with SMTP id l18mr158750qbr; Sat, 06 May 2006 07:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si382152qba.2006.05.06.07.10.13; Sat, 06 May 2006 07:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcNST-0001xe-IF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:08:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcNST-0001xV-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:08:33 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcOu7-0007JI-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 16:41:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 95488 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 14:08:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.158.152 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 14:08:22 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 15:09:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <000f01c67114$432ac980$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.488,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Loran off-air, or has may aerial fallen down? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6427 Hi, Peter. It came back on at about 12:15z :-( When it was off, my noise level on the RX loop was S=5, increasing to S=7-1/2 When it came back. On my transmitting vertical, the signal levels were S=5 and S=6 respectively. Plus Static crashes. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Peter Martinez Sent: 06 May 2006 14:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Loran off-air, or has may aerial fallen down? >From G3PLX: Just got back into the shack at 13:50z, and Rugby is certainly on-air now. I can't say if it was off earlier. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203452872260455255 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b7608237b3ed2b643b80a5b4a0fc7150459e5bfe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs29645wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.17 with SMTP id s17mr2367708nfj; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1si3973587nfe.2006.05.15.07.08.07; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffdbs-0005ZN-DI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:59:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffdbs-0005ZE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:59:44 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fff7t-0003eU-Rp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:36:59 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 May 2006 13:59:25 -0000 Received: from p54906D8B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.109.139] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 15 May 2006 15:59:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <002001c67828$3350dc00$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: <003c01c67744$f08f9160$2201a8c0@PC2> <6.1.0.6.2.20060515132009.037b1cf0@127.0.0.1> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:02:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.110,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: to Dick Rollema Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C67838.F600FF40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6467 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C67838.F600FF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please send me Your- e- mail adress Uwe, dk1kq ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C67838.F600FF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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  ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C67838.F600FF40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203195530906119140 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c603e25736e10b483a0b70bac2351783952fb71d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs44446wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.124.1 with SMTP id b1mr1887836ugn; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si5297697uge.2006.05.12.10.57.54; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Febqi-0002bX-Mm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:54:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Febqi-0002bO-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:54:48 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FedLM-0007Cr-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 20:30:37 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-71-234-114-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[71.234.114.84]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060512175358m11009cod7e>; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c675ec$58ce8920$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <4464C6E3.23575.95B164@localhost> <021f01c675e4$312af550$17c54354@MLB> <000401c675e6$da5a0ba0$3f837ad5@lark> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:48:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.023,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Rope? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C675CA.D12F0100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6495 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C675CA.D12F0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Agree with Alan on this one ... I use sailboat line exclusively because = of it's strength and longevity. Also use sailboat 'blocks' in place of = hardware store 'pulleys'. They are about 2X or 3X the price but they = never rust or sieze up and the line never jumps the sheave. Jay, W1VD =20 p.s. if you do visit a marine store make sure to ask for line and not = rope ;~) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Melia=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Rope? Hi Martin, yes but the stuff I have can have as short a life as 4 = years in the sun. It does go brittle and breaks up.....what is worse in that = state it leaves loads of little "needles" of plastic under the skin if you = handle it without gloves. They dont seem to do any harm, but....... I have some 7mm pre-stretched polyester slated MARINE yacht ropes, = made by British Ropes many years ago (1974). This is still doing sterling = service as guying on my tower after more than 30 years. It has darkened (usefull = as it "disappears" against the background of the trees) and does have a = greenish look where it is supporting a colony of algae, but it seems to have = not lost any of its strength. Its rated at about 1500pounds I think. I do use = draw rope for a light-weight mast but replace it regularly. Unfortunately = my old salt mine doesnt have a stores any more....we were able to make a = personal purchases of rate-book items. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Evans. To: Sent: 12 May 2006 17:50 Subject: LF: Re: Rope? > > > > > > Any advice from those more knowledgable / experienced than me? > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Mike - get to know a BT engineer and obtain some 6mm diameter "BT > Drawrope". > > This is blue, but the smoulder test indicates that it's definitely = not > polypropylene, and it doesn't smell much like nylon either, though = it might > be. > > I had a child's tyre swing in the garden for eight years, supended = with > this, and apart from some colour loss there was no significant = degradation > after all the abuse that it suffered. > > Martin > GW3UCJ > Swansea. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C675CA.D12F0100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike
 
Agree with Alan on this one ... I = use sailboat=20 line exclusively because of it's strength and longevity. Also use = sailboat=20 'blocks' in place of hardware store 'pulleys'. They are about 2X or 3X = the price=20 but they never rust or sieze up and the line never jumps the=20 sheave.
 
Jay, W1VD 
 
p.s.  if you do visit a = marine store make=20 sure to ask for line and not rope ;~)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alan Melia
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:09 = PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: = Rope?

Hi Martin, yes but the stuff I have can have as short a = life as=20 4 years in
the sun. It does go brittle and breaks up.....what is = worse in=20 that state it
leaves loads of little "needles" of plastic under the = skin if=20 you handle it
without gloves. They dont seem to do any harm,=20 but.......

I have some 7mm pre-stretched polyester slated = MARINE yacht=20 ropes, made by
British Ropes many years ago (1974). This is still = doing=20 sterling service as
guying on my tower after more than 30 years. It = has=20 darkened (usefull as it
"disappears" against the background of the = trees)=20 and does have a greenish
look where it is supporting a colony of = algae, but=20 it seems to have not lost
any of its strength. Its rated at about=20 1500pounds I think. I do use draw
rope for a light-weight mast but = replace=20 it regularly. Unfortunately my old
salt mine doesnt have a stores = any=20 more....we were able to make a personal
purchases of rate-book=20 items.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message=20 -----
From: Martin Evans. <books@mollies.freeserve.co.= uk>
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Sent:=20 12 May 2006 17:50
Subject: LF: Re: = Rope?


>
>
>=20 >
> > Any advice from those more knowledgable / = experienced than=20 me?
> >
> > Mike, G3XDV
> >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> Mike - get to know a = BT engineer and obtain=20 some  6mm diameter "BT
> Drawrope".
>
> This is = blue,=20 but the smoulder test indicates that it's definitely not
>=20 polypropylene, and it doesn't smell much like nylon either, though=20 it
might
> be.
>
> I had a child's tyre swing in = the=20 garden for eight years, supended with
> this, and apart from = some colour=20 loss there was no significant degradation
> after all the abuse = that it=20 suffered.
>
> Martin
> GW3UCJ
>=20 Swansea.
>
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C675CA.D12F0100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202711402704453050 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ac586ab0be01ff8658c0015eb592835e3b98cf52 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs3240wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 07:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.6 with SMTP id z6mr482885nfk; Sun, 07 May 2006 07:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si1113472nfc.2006.05.07.07.42.52; Sun, 07 May 2006 07:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FckRy-0000f5-3L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 15:41:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FckRx-0000ew-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 15:41:33 +0100 Received: from bay116-f13.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.23] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fclu7-0006ok-73 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 17:14:47 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 7 May 2006 07:41:22 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07 May 2006 14:41:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.92.243.140] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <001501c671e1$c7ff1080$014b7ad5@lark> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 06:41:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2006 14:41:22.0430 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F5831E0:01C671E4] X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.096,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Daytime propagation Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6508 Hi Alan, yep good over here too. I have MP appx 137,7767 KHz from London Ontario at 1430Kms at good strength at 0930 CST. Weve have appauling weather radiowise with constant tstorms for what seems weeks and weeks, and actually has been weeks and weeks (!). Its nice to seen a Loran line too this morning here in Oklahoma. Now we have to just stop the rain before the garden becomes a water park. No new news on XDW's return - OET says call back in a month or two, and was told yesterday that Im staying here in OK for a wee bitty longer. Good overnight signals from XGJ, XNS, MP, XES Laurence KL1X/5 em26br http://cableone.net/flow grabber http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg rx sys = 32ft top loaded "spiral" vertical and ts870 > >Hi All, I have just looked at Brian's real-time plots of DCF39 and these >confirm that today's levels are 5dB higher than yesterday, in line with the >expected effect from the magnetic storm. >http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~brian/136_graph.htm > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202711402704453050 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cce7a28f897d176ea04ad5ce543477ddb0e9ecec Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs2994wra; Sun, 7 May 2006 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.17.17 with SMTP id u17mr477834nfi; Sun, 07 May 2006 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24si786962nfc.2006.05.07.07.27.02; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6509 Hi All, I have just looked at Brian's real-time plots of DCF39 and these confirm that today's levels are 5dB higher than yesterday, in line with the expected effect from the magnetic storm. http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~brian/136_graph.htm Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Manuel To: Sent: 07 May 2006 09:50 Subject: LF: Daytime propagation Hello all Signals, at least in the 1800 km range, are better than in past week, I copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is stronger as well. 73 de Jos�, EA1PX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202711402704453050 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8800a1bc850755befab0c7c480201cc805fa3ee0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs56252wra; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6510 Hi Jose, thanks for that information. I expected that day-time conditions would improve after the recent magnetic storms for probably a couple of days. Under geomagnetically quiet conditions daytime paths have been depressed compared with levels during the periods of higher solar X-ray flux. It happened right in time for weekend activity too !! Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK Prop reports at www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Manuel To: Sent: 07 May 2006 09:50 Subject: LF: Daytime propagation Hello all Signals, at least in the 1800 km range, are better than in past week, I copy here S57A with "O" at 1881 km, and DCF is stronger as well. 73 de Jos�, EA1PX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203059107851239854 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bce0424aecd1484a98a37083ba399a1b00f9310f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs12203wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 02:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.81.8 with SMTP id i8mr254849nfl; Thu, 11 May 2006 02:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si5678446nfe.2006.05.11.02.14.26; Thu, 11 May 2006 02:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe7B0-0005z6-EI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:09:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe7B0-0005yx-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:09:42 +0100 Received: from natlemon.rzone.de ([81.169.145.170]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe95b-0004P2-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:12:31 +0100 Received: from w2 (p548661F5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.97.245]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4B99402002990 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 11:09:09 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200605110909.k4B99402002990@post.webmailer.de> From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 11:09:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZ00XNqwes6x1LKTCywmbFrvkpr2QAB7TQg In-Reply-To: <8bf118410605110100o3d7a4d80l1456186efb8af19a@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299 Subject: AW: LF: T/A the last night WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6593 Dave and LF, I noted this lines very often here in the past years. Before I left home = for work this morning I had a brief look on my overnight captures and saw = this line, too. Usually this line appeared around 137.775 kHz. Sometimes the = line looks like a sawtooth on a very slow screen. Faded in at local sunset = and fade out was at local sunrise. 73 Hartmut=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Dave Pick > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 10:01 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: T/A the last night WD2XGJ >=20 > I'm afraid I had no luck last night "not a sausage" to put it=20 > succinctly. >=20 > Clicking through a lot of blank captures I did notice a=20 > slightly unstable line which isn't always there. It started=20 > the night on 137.7773 and drifted down so that by 0400 it was=20 > on 137.7770 (give or take about 0.1Hz). The Rugby Loran line=20 > was resolutely stable so the RX wasn't to balme. It peaked at=20 > about 0400 and faded shaortly after with dawn so it's not local. > I didn't see it on Jean-Pierre's grab. I wonder what it is? >=20 > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK=20 >=20 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203059107851239854 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 50ebbba9d23b1bf4f006561d2e40ebae75f5f098 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs11253wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.16 with SMTP id t16mr227417nfj; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si5669094nfb.2006.05.11.01.34.43; Thu, 11 May 2006 01:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe6bD-0005mz-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:32:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe6bB-0005mq-F2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:32:41 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe859-0001WH-Hr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 11:07:48 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00E44806A for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4462F684.9030302@online.fr> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 10:32:04 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4462CF7B.9070508@online.fr> <8bf118410605110100o3d7a4d80l1456186efb8af19a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410605110100o3d7a4d80l1456186efb8af19a@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.799 Subject: Re: LF: T/A the last night WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6594 Hi Dave , No the chance! this night I were not in my usual configaration (I test a=20 new software of my friend F5WK) I kept the entirety of the recording of=20 the night, I will look at. 73 qro Jean-Pierre Dave Pick a =E9crit : > I'm afraid I had no luck last night "not a sausage" to put it succinctl= y. > > Clicking through a lot of blank captures I did notice a slightly=20 > unstable line which isn't always there. It started the night on=20 > 137.7773 and drifted down so that by 0400 it was on 137.7770 (give or=20 > take about 0.1Hz). The Rugby Loran line was resolutely stable so the=20 > RX wasn't to balme. It peaked at about 0400 and faded shaortly after=20 > with dawn so it's not local. > I didn't see it on Jean-Pierre's grab. I wonder what it is? > > --=20 > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK=20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec Norton Antivirus garanti sans virus connu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203059107851239854 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cfe64fe226664ef39e631d95c4186d19d1475efd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs6742wra; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.14 with SMTP id i14mr125418nfg; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si379691nfe.2006.05.10.22.49.31; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe3zn-0004sL-K0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 06:45:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fe3zk-0004sC-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 06:45:52 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fe5uF-0002sI-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 08:48:38 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102548734 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 07:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4462CF7B.9070508@online.fr> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 07:45:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Priority: 3))) X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.554 Subject: LF: T/A the last night WD2XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6595 Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy: WD2XGJ > 02:30 to 03:00 , 04:00 to 04:30 the captures of the night are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204734236126226004 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ce341d30948311614442139069f953f2fdb22d7b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs82341wra; Mon, 29 May 2006 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.15.3 with SMTP id s3mr2055257ugi; Mon, 29 May 2006 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si4519397uge.2006.05.29.10.34.58; Mon, 29 May 2006 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FklbL-00047X-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 18:32:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FklbL-00047O-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 18:32:23 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep16-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FklbH-0002Ik-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 18:32:23 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.172.157]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060529172828.CKJ1850.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Mon, 29 May 2006 19:28:28 +0200 Message-ID: <008a01c68345$4bc82db0$9dac3850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: References: <001101c6817e$4d9dafc0$2101a8c0@whitehead1> <001001c68263$71d5ad80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <4479C3AA.7020104@freenet.de> <003501c68270$7fbc9050$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 19:28:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.969,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" heard in the Netherlands JO21BV Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_COST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6606 Hi Geri , Heard your beacon last Sunday evening in plain CW with a signal strenght of 6-10 Db over the noise in a bandwidth of 300 Hz in my Drake R7 receiver with an active antenna more or less like Roelof,s but with a 30 cm, long bicycle spoke antenna . . My location is JO21BV , 73, William PA0WFO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" > Hi Wolf, > > yes, indeed, your link is correct, thanks for correcting the typo! > > Besides the general ability for everyone to switch on DI2BO for a pre-set > time by phone I am myself able to control DI2BO by mobile phone (by SMS). > Currently I just can switch it on and off, later I will also be able to > switch the power from high to low and also the mode from CW to QRSS and > vice-versa. > > I can update the website information by e-Mail from my mobile phone, too, > so > I think I have everything under control from my pocket -hi- ... I can even > read the temperature of the PA-module from a remote location. The toy > doing > all that is a new cllphone/remote control module that you can get for > example at Conrad Electronic. > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wolf DL4YHF" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO - "Beacon on Demand" > > >> Hello Holger, >> >> A nice idea, phone-activated beacon ! >> The link should have been http://www.qru.de/di2bo.html , right ? >> >> 73 and GL, Wolf DL4YHF . >> >> >> Holger 'Geri', DK8KW schrieb: >> >> > Hi YLs / OMs, >> > >> > the experimental radio station DI2BO on 440 kHz is currently running >> > as a "Beacon on Demand". This is a function I will mainly use on >> > normal weekdays when activity is low. If somebody wants to check the >> > beacon signal during those times, just call the phone number *+ 49 - >> > 173 - 64 66 981* in Germany from any phone. If activated, this phone >> > call will switch on DI2BO for a limited time period. The phone will >> > NOT pick up, so there is (should be, check please check with your >> > local phone provider) NO CHARGE for this call. >> > >> > I will try to post the current status of the Beacon on my website >> > http://www.qr.de/di2bo.html >> > >> > Best 73 >> > >> > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204625184939884220 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0816e6d0ed4733030ee04ae43a7c9f2d3d481a94 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs43293wra; Sun, 28 May 2006 05:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.58.7 with SMTP id l7mr947109nfk; Sun, 28 May 2006 05:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c28si2684760nfb.2006.05.28.05.41.37; Sun, 28 May 2006 05:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FkKV2-0002Ce-KG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <200605281235.k4SCZo7m027366@mx-in-02.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 15:35:19 +0300 To: wun@qth.net, lowfer@qth.net From: Costas Krallis Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr id k4SCZuCW022177 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_EUDORA=0.054,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: URGENT: SAQ-transmission Sep 2, 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_EUDORA autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6664 Sorry for cross-posting, but this one is really urgent. 73 Costas > From: Lars K=E5lland > To: ... > Subject: SAQ-transmission > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:03:48 +0200 > > INFORMATION > > There will be a short transmission with the Grimeton Radio/SAQ > transmitter on 17,2 kHz to a conference in London today, September > the 2nd 2000 at 18:00 UTC. > > An opportunity to check your receivers. > > > No QSL-reports are required. > > > > Regards > > SM6NM/Lars > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203648614047439777 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0295626357759f88dbf34555ca626da4f5048b28 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs90355wra; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.7 with SMTP id l7mr982628nfg; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si2327174nfc.2006.05.17.10.59.28; 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Wed, 17 May 2006 17:54:02 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:54:25 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001001c67942$9baac3e0$d5828351@lark> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.780,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Re: MSF off the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6712 Hi Alan, The MSF link dosn't appear to work!! Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 17 May 2006 00:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: MSF off the air Hi Jose Daytime maintenance to do with the move next year see http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msfoutages.html for all the details Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Manuel To: Sent: 16 May 2006 23:52 Subject: LF: MSF off the air Hello all: Does anybody know why MSF is off the air? 73, Jos�, EA1PX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203994732321509812 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5912afd494ad654af8d35e745d2bba26d4040107 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs97416wra; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.16 with SMTP id y16mr2934440nfk; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si3808941nfc.2006.05.21.06.40.51; Sun, 21 May 2006 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fho6v-0003pT-Rd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 14:36:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fho6v-0003pK-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 14:36:45 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fhpft-0006ek-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 16:17:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 77423 invoked from network); 21 May 2006 13:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.152 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2006 13:35:35 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 14:36:46 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006e01c67cd8$9344d620$2101a8c0@whitehead1> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.500,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C67CE3.FC7F9D40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6715 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C67CE3.FC7F9D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha...looks like it's back, then. Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of whitehead@gonuts4free.com Sent: 21 May 2006 14:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Test Test ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C67CE3.FC7F9D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Aha...looks like it's back, then.
Dave=20 G3WCB
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------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C67CE3.FC7F9D40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203457123611676268 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ae7d6c1987334a64347bd6b9702cfab8b563cabd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs32706wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.5.8 with SMTP id h8mr2426558nfi; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si5865138nfa.2006.05.15.08.15.45; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffei8-0005qx-B8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:10:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffei7-0005qo-W1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:10:15 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfgeI-0008JW-Bj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:14:44 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ffegq-0005AE-03; Mon, 15 May 2006 17:08:56 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XKAe2EZfQeC02en7K1k-TutVdKB3d-lq+CpVpRLC5-MDgdm3PnRF4Y@[84.133.81.171]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ffegm-06np1U0; Mon, 15 May 2006 17:08:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:08:51 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15850943.20060515170851@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XKAe2EZfQeC02en7K1k-TutVdKB3d-lq+CpVpRLC5-MDgdm3PnRF4Y X-TOI-MSGID: 33bae6a3-2a15-4872-9579-3e2553f1848c X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.861 Subject: LF: T/A May, 15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6730 Solid copy of VO1NA 01:45-04:10 and WD2XGJ 02:00-03:30 last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204810663426042985 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e3f5d20362b8fc5e9ea007c7f0267502eceba990 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs19595wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 06:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.32.16 with SMTP id f16mr617696huf; Tue, 30 May 2006 06:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si1049205hua.2006.05.30.06.49.44; Tue, 30 May 2006 06:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl4T1-0006xE-9W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:41:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl4T0-0006x5-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:41:02 +0100 Received: from f2phy.netins.net ([167.142.229.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fl4Sx-000378-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:41:02 +0100 X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.56] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 948761035 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:37:10 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c683ee$225bbb50$4200a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <000b01c6839a$0e1b24e0$11c428c3@captbrian> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.257 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6762 I thought "TNX" was Thanks. Doc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of captbrian Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 22:35 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) Alan, You dun gud agn. TU I am never sure whether cw abb. TU means Thank You or To You. Now then: is there a method of applying the message rules retrospectively? There are 1800 odd messages in my inbox and I would now like to run the inbox through the (later written) message rules so as to make it as if the messages had already been written when the messages arrived. Bryan (was away all winter) Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: 29 May 2006 22:38 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > Hi Brian > Sounds like you have COPY ticked rather than MOVE.....but of course I could > be totally wrong i do it manually every now and again with the find > facility. > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: captbrian > To: > Sent: 29 May 2006 22:11 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > > I was away from keyboard 40 mins but that was well executed. It worked > too. > > Thank you : > > > > Next : I have message rules set up to transfer every incoming message > with > > LF in the subject to a folder called LF2 . It doesn't _transfer _ tho ; > > it _copies_ leaving original in inbox. > > > > How can I make it _transfer_ and not merely copy ? > > > > Bryan G3GVB > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203186849675023186 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 427bf70a60d12ef8ac84a482d0fffd5663a0214b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs62097wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.13 with SMTP id l13mr1733324nfg; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33si2891099nfc.2006.05.13.01.21.18; Sat, 13 May 2006 01:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FepKT-0004kt-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:18:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FepKT-0004kk-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:18:25 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FerFm-0005X6-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:22:00 +0100 Received: from [217.184.226.138] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1FepKA1kFF-0008Eu; Sat, 13 May 2006 10:18:06 +0200 Message-ID: <006301c67665$c259d740$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: <001901c675d9$743f8230$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <8bf118410605120941q60eae3f7u5055a6c567584ec3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:18:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO nw QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C67676.85409AE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6764 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C67676.85409AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dave, thanks for the reception report on your grabber. It is interesting to = see my own signal. Here we also had a sunny day but now it is raining = and clowdy so perhaps once the thunderstormes fade away the reception = gets better. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave Pick=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO nw QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz Geri I've put a window up on the grabber http://wireless.org.uk/grab/ but = the static is very bad here this evening. (We had a sunny day so now we = have to have static...) Dave. On 12/05/06, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: Hi folks, DI2BO is now transmitting QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz with 5 Watt ERP. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO --=20 G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C67676.85409AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Dave,
 
thanks for the reception report on your = grabber. It=20 is interesting to see my own signal. Here we also had a sunny day but = now it is=20 raining and clowdy so perhaps once the thunderstormes fade away the = reception=20 gets better.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave=20 Pick
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:41 = PM
Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO nw QRSS3 = on=20 440.040 kHz

Geri

I've put a window up on the grabber http://wireless.org.uk/grab/ = but the=20 static is very bad here this evening. (We had a sunny day so now we = have to=20 have static...)

Dave.

On 12/05/06, Holger=20 'Geri', DK8KW <geri@dk8kw.de>=20 wrote:
Hi folks,
 
DI2BO is now transmitting = QRSS3 on 440.040=20 kHz with 5 Watt ERP.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
 



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G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK = ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C67676.85409AE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203186849675023186 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73b2b3816abd3a9fb044a591199e9df3bf85bab7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs51055wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.4.19 with SMTP id 19mr141951nfd; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y24si563971nfb.2006.05.12.14.48.58; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FefTm-0003TJ-9Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:47:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FefTl-0003TA-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 May 2006 22:47:21 +0100 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FehOy-0000Hd-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 00:50:47 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0402.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A7101C001B3 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:47:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-93.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-93.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.93]) by mwinf0402.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7042F1C001B0 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 23:47:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060512214700459.7042F1C001B0@mwinf0402.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:46:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001901c675d9$743f8230$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Message-ID: References: <001901c675d9$743f8230$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.678,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: DI2BO nw QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6765 Good signal here JN09XI F5YG On Fri, 12 May 2006, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: > Hi folks, > > DI2BO is now transmitting QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz with 5 Watt ERP. > > Best 73 > > Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203186849675023186 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 52f32e77e17c72a2644ebb670e0bd0cc1e28ce7c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs39782wra; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr1213906nfe; 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Fri, 12 May 2006 17:33:44 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c675d9$743f8230$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: , Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:33:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.104,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: DI2BO nw QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C675EA.3669D3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6766 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C675EA.3669D3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, DI2BO is now transmitting QRSS3 on 440.040 kHz with 5 Watt ERP. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C675EA.3669D3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
DI2BO is now transmitting QRSS3 on = 440.040 kHz=20 with 5 Watt ERP.
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C675EA.3669D3A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202435957135219250 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7af6216c5dce0e0c2afdaf479004a28b17d61be3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs17302wra; Thu, 4 May 2006 01:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.39.6 with SMTP id r6mr329127nfj; Thu, 04 May 2006 01:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si4474021nfc.2006.05.04.01.44.48; Thu, 04 May 2006 01:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbZPN-0004rC-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 09:42:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbZPM-0004r3-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 09:42:00 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbbHM-0005bJ-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 11:42:07 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-156.fen-net.de [212.204.117.36]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k448ZtMs019583 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 10:35:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001301c66f57$39d472a0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:46:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.195,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2BO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C66F67.F74EF7A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6791 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C66F67.F74EF7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear friends, the German authorities permitted a second research-station on = 440KHz. It is DI2BO near Peine, northern part of Germany. Responsible is = Holger ( Geri ) Kinzel, DK8KW. The goal is to test propagation from his = more northern location. No ham radio operation allowed. Holger is still in the US and will return at the weekend. He will then = post some details. 73 Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C66F67.F74EF7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear friends,
          the=20 German authorities permitted a second research-station on 440KHz. It is = DI2BO=20 near Peine, northern part of Germany. Responsible is  Holger ( Geri = )=20 Kinzel, DK8KW. The goal is to test propagation from his more northern = location.=20 No ham radio operation allowed.
Holger is still in the US and will return at the=20 weekend.  He will then post some details.
73    Walter  DI2AG / = DJ2LF
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C66F67.F74EF7A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202971870376488107 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 31c441c6673433f5f179c924d1bf37292284f5ef Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs13358wra; Tue, 9 May 2006 23:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.20 with SMTP id s20mr281012nfj; Tue, 09 May 2006 23:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si364100nfa.2006.05.09.23.42.55; Tue, 09 May 2006 23:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FdiG2-0000QL-U1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 07:33:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FdiG2-0000QC-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 07:33:14 +0100 Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FdkAB-00087S-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 09:35:38 +0100 Received: from [82.68.48.134] (helo=[192.168.0.133]) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FdiEk-0005ws-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 06:31:54 +0000 Message-ID: <446188DA.7010707@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 07:31:54 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c56843$cf3b6180$6507a8c0@Main> In-Reply-To: <001401c56843$cf3b6180$6507a8c0@Main> X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.48.134] X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.323,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.045 Subject: Re: LF: MSF futures Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020603060206030108040001" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6793 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020603060206030108040001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Radio4 this morning http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4756593.stm New TX site will be Anthorn on the west coast of Cumbria. and there is a Q&A on the NPL site http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msf_questions.html - Stewart G3YSX > > --------------020603060206030108040001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Radio4 this morning

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4756593.stm

New TX site will be Anthorn on the west coast of Cumbria.

and there is  a Q&A on the NPL site

http://www.npl.co.uk/time/msf/msf_questions.html

- Stewart G3YSX
--------------020603060206030108040001-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203345327682693642 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 028b177704d6c14b1ac8967660470896219e657d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs7391wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.4.4 with SMTP id 4mr1532781nfd; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si4794634nfc.2006.05.14.13.57.56; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNdX-0002fe-Dp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfNdX-0002fV-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:23 +0100 Received: from web86601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfPZR-0005DV-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:00:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 20981 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2006 20:56:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vbBsodPnwraAk7/N9g7KWPzmgWjHS5kl5ceTVtM5SDNMRgI9bElUqDYn8mT0+vmu/4nFhDGt4FXir+6HuN5fSeGgwLkAtPwUNDTiyh1Jjv+S2IeguFjRrV8HtV7Ltu6RDaJgGfBmpjN6u/uDS/PjcnyfZkUCnb2wJCQdTY3DtdM= ; Message-ID: <20060514205606.20979.qmail@web86601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:06 BST Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:06 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <003101c67739$e29b5630$2201a8c0@PC2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.033,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ QRSS1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1328963407-1147640166=:19566" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6820 --0-1328963407-1147640166=:19566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That's great news Jose, I never imagined that I'd get as far as you on QRSS-1 !! There seemed very little activity on LF today. This morning G3KEV gave DQ2006 a 569 (CW) report but I could not even hear the German station. Thank you for your other E-mail - it was very interesting and you are doing well with only 150 watts. 73 Chris G3XIZ Jose Manuel wrote: Hi all Chris, copied "O" your QRSS1 signals some minutes ago. 73, Jos�, EA1PX Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-1328963407-1147640166=:19566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
That's great news Jose,
I never imagined that I'd get as far as you on QRSS-1 !!
 
There seemed very little activity on LF today.
This morning G3KEV gave DQ2006 a 569 (CW) report but I could not even hear the German station.
 
Thank you for your other E-mail - it was very interesting and you are doing well with only 150 watts.
 
73 Chris G3XIZ

Jose Manuel <jpradoes@telefonica.net> wrote:
Hi all
 
Chris, copied "O" your QRSS1 signals some minutes ago.
 
 
73, Jos�, EA1PX

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-1328963407-1147640166=:19566-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203345327682693642 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 734d37518398615a30b138de2a7cb97ab85c30f5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs19243wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.10.9 with SMTP id n9mr2469394nfi; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si1885671nfc.2006.05.14.02.38.52; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfD29-0000e4-UI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:37:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfD29-0000dv-JX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:37:05 +0100 Received: from smtp.telefonica.net ([213.4.149.66] helo=ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfExu-0008Mu-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:41:05 +0100 Received: from PC2 (83.36.171.6) by ctsmtpout1.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as JPRADOES$telefonica.net) id 4465A6E10000E0EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:39:19 +0200 Message-ID: <003101c67739$e29b5630$2201a8c0@PC2> From: "Jose Manuel" To: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: G3XIZ QRSS1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6774A.A5C25720" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6821 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6774A.A5C25720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all Chris, copied "O" your QRSS1 signals some minutes ago. 73, Jos=E9, EA1PX ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6774A.A5C25720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all
 
Chris, copied "O" your QRSS1 signals = some minutes=20 ago.
 
 
73, Jos=E9, = EA1PX
------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C6774A.A5C25720-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203255701857292950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 113518e157a1b7473c6d31cfe360cd3b4b93721c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs63811wra; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.221.20 with SMTP id t20mr449312nfg; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38si8039767nfc.2006.05.13.02.54.17; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Feqmm-00053s-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 10:51:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Feqmm-00053j-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 10:51:44 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FesHl-0005jQ-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 12:27:53 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Feqmh-0002z9-00; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:51:39 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TDo4dOZdQeMm12+HiKYhuSs7YsUBEkyW3GQcdJaF7oxt49snJQ3J4T@[84.133.78.112]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FeqmT-1sOdWa0; Sat, 13 May 2006 11:51:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:51:22 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <738735883.20060513115122@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TDo4dOZdQeMm12+HiKYhuSs7YsUBEkyW3GQcdJaF7oxt49snJQ3J4T X-TOI-MSGID: 2ab5fa0d-1bef-4dea-8317-44e2d4d192a4 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.822 Subject: LF: T/A May, 12/13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6822 Very strong signal from VO1NA 23:40-03:30 last night. Only partial copy of WD2XGJ 01:35-02:10. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202659236906084723 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a223af1cbe2a838276c24dd77f1f4e80e95d7c4f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs43349wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 12:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.219.8 with SMTP id w8mr301020qbq; Sat, 06 May 2006 12:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si660635qbc.2006.05.06.12.53.44; Sat, 06 May 2006 12:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcSof-0002sk-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 20:51:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcSof-0002sb-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 20:51:49 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcUhZ-0005jl-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 22:52:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 10097 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 2006 19:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.7]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 6 May 2006 19:50:24 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c67145$0c256fe0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 21:41:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.025,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: my 136kHz stn, new update's on website Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6826 Hello some new pictures and text are available on the PA6Z website. Meanwhile I'm busy finishing the front cover with all controlls, meters etc. Still plenty of work to do, like wiring all stuff. 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202527006555914561 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7873da3ead688daeac2b29491fba91373725a123 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs985wra; Fri, 5 May 2006 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.214.10 with SMTP id m10mr349499nfg; Fri, 05 May 2006 01:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si518164nfa.2006.05.05.01.51.59; Fri, 05 May 2006 01:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbvzB-0007LE-C4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 09:48:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbvzB-0007L5-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 09:48:29 +0100 Received: from smtpout0166.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.166] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbxrY-0008OH-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 11:48:59 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.228.55) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 4459A5EA0001C399 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 5 May 2006 08:48:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c67020$a1d96080$37e4fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 08:36:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.985 Subject: LF: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6832 Thanks to all those that replied regarding Wilkinson. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202824633109475266 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1dc61365713754c3a75d188976bcdff85ca9dda5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs35989wra; Mon, 8 May 2006 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.49.18 with SMTP id w18mr1289421nfw; Mon, 08 May 2006 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si2304074nfe.2006.05.08.08.42.39; Mon, 08 May 2006 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd7ky-000470-3h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 16:34:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fd7kx-00046r-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 16:34:43 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fd9eV-0007Tv-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 18:36:30 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Fd7ke-00037Q-04; Mon, 08 May 2006 17:34:24 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Z2F3DsZfweKbfkg58D3eB4CmpAESMRC0ToX-noZ4MDRr2EOD5nsRc0@[84.133.122.153]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Fd7kb-0x1BoG0; Mon, 8 May 2006 17:34:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:34:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1275903334.20060508173419@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Z2F3DsZfweKbfkg58D3eB4CmpAESMRC0ToX-noZ4MDRr2EOD5nsRc0 X-TOI-MSGID: c7fb332e-2d39-47b4-a914-535bb250d199 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.898 Subject: LF: T/A May, 7/8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6870 Copied VO1NA and WD2XGJ last night. Probably no listening for a while, due to predicted thunderstorms for the next days. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203554052985587822 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 13164ae5639e08dfab681aa94c5140e6a494eeb5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs43283wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.17 with SMTP id f17mr4664598nfe; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si61686nfc.2006.05.16.09.56.27; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg2mt-00025t-SE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:52:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fg2mt-00025k-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:52:47 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fg4JU-0007VM-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:30:36 +0100 Received: from [217.251.227.200] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1Fg2mK28Ac-0008ON; Tue, 16 May 2006 18:52:12 +0200 Message-ID: <0bcd01c67909$13d376d0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: References: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:52:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:a8046abf013a2aee3cd9c470ba16bfdf X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.062 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6927 Hello Victor, thanks for the screenshot and the report. I will confirm it by a special report once they are printed. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor van kooten" To: "blacksheep" Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO > screenshot of DI2BO > 17:56 UTC > > 73 > PA3FNY > JO22NC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204204304964610299 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 693aff318de11125d63f4b2837f76452a1ec4e89 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs14089wra; Tue, 23 May 2006 14:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.12.2 with SMTP id p2mr3912725nfi; Tue, 23 May 2006 14:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si6881120nfb.2006.05.23.14.11.56; Tue, 23 May 2006 14:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fie1Q-0001gi-Iz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:02:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fie1P-0001gZ-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:02:31 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fie1L-0007X7-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:02:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 9394 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 2006 21:01:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.88]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 23 May 2006 21:01:19 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c67eaa$b8ecbae0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:51:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.875,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: LF activety weekend JUNE 10/11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6928 Hello all, during the fieldday from the local radioclub, PI4ZUT (PA6Z) in the weekend of June 10th and 11th, (yes the weekend after the IARU Region 1 fieldday) I plan to set up my 136kHz station in order to do some in-field-tests. This will be a preparation for the LX-activety later this year. Please look out for PA4VHF and/or PI4ZUT that weekend on 136kHz. I guess PI4ZUT will be used on most of the other HF-bands. Mode will be normal CW. Meanwhile I'm busy to rebuild the loading-coil and variometer, and building a waterproof and 'portable' cabinet for them to keep them dry during rain......... Hmm, actually the loading is not really portable any more,hihi. Large and heavy, but at least transportable.......... 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203383147501700426 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4d4802537a5a64c480c58038e08100134b6f706d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs5904wra; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.3 with SMTP id j3mr1483306nfe; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si2459357nfa.2006.05.14.12.39.59; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMO8-00027R-PA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 20:36:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfMO7-00027I-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 20:36:23 +0100 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfNtn-00035l-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:13:15 +0100 Received: from edge2.siol.net ([10.10.10.211]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20060514193618.CEN4387.mta1.siol.net@edge2.siol.net> for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:36:18 +0200 Received: from y4x1l1 ([212.30.93.32]) by edge2.siol.net with SMTP id <20060514193608.ZAKC7870.edge2.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 21:36:08 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c6778d$88c14760$205d1ed4@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: References: <000801c67541$745ec610$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:25:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.590,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the other side of the pond? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6779C.DB763B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6931 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C6779C.DB763B00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000F_01C6779C.DB763B00" ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C6779C.DB763B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Geri UFB signal overnight...Below is W5QR...?! also FB. RIG: converter SO42P, TS900 (OT),IF 500Hz, ant. vert. 10m. Regards 73 , Joze S52AB , JN75OU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: LF: DI2BO in QRSS during the weekend -- any takers on the = other side of the pond? Hello folks, the experimental beacon DI2BO will be QRV in QRSS3 on 440,040 kHz = during the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will start Friday night = (local time Germany) and will continue through Monday morning. I will = post details here later. Effecive radiated power will be around 5 Watt. So far the 5 wmp = conventional CW beacon has been heard well throughout Europe. QRSS3 = should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out there listening? Best 73 Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO (W1KW) =20 ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C6779C.DB763B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Geri
 
UFB signal overnight...Below is = W5QR...?! also=20 FB.
RIG: converter SO42P, TS900 (OT),IF = 500Hz, ant.=20 vert. 10m.
 
Regards
 
73 , Joze S52AB , JN75OU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Holger 'Geri', = DK8KW=20
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 = 11:25=20 PM
Subject: LF: DI2BO in QRSS = during the=20 weekend -- any takers on the other side of the pond?

Hello folks,
 
the experimental beacon DI2BO will be = QRV in=20 QRSS3 on 440,040 kHz during the upcoming weekend. Transmissions will = start=20 Friday night (local time Germany) and will continue through Monday = morning. I=20 will post details here later.
 
Effecive radiated power will be = around 5 Watt. So=20 far the 5 wmp conventional CW beacon has been heard well throughout = Europe.=20 QRSS3 should help to make it over the pond. Anybody out there=20 listening?
 
Best 73
 
Geri, DK8KW / DI2BO = (W1KW)
 
 
 
 
  
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([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060516121337.MILI16086.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:13:37 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:13:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4469CFFC.26371.1D57D1@localhost> In-reply-to: <00ba01c678d4$0aee5830$0101a8c0@BUERO> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.552,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: DATONG VLF converter Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6954 You will need 9 volts. It covers DC to 500kHz with an IF of 28 - 28.5MHz. It is very sensitive and likely to overload, but a simple resistive attenuator (100 ohm potentiometer across the antenna socket!) will fix this with a big antenna. Frequency stability is OK for CW and may be OK for QRSS3, but not is certainly not good enough for slower modes. On mine, I cannot get the crystal to tune to exactly 28MHz and have to offset the receiver by about 1kHz. This is a very useful piece of equipment to get anyone with an HF receiver on the air on 136kHz. BEWARE - when using a transceiver as an IF, make sure the Tx cannot be switched on!! Mike, G3XDV =========== > I've found an old DATONG VLF converter without manual. Does somebody > know the supply voltage and frequency range? > 73 Jo, DK2PH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203530131291447513 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5823dcf0360b4d0d089d47c765e01de938b32f9b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs29555wra; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.72.15 with SMTP id z15mr4322165nfk; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si754383nfa.2006.05.16.03.36.14; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfwrD-000069-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:32:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfwrD-000060-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:32:51 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfyNg-0003jq-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:10:32 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ffwr8-00016A-00; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:32:46 +0200 Received: from BUERO (Tb01c8Z6wePpbvRTdi8ieLOFrZ7PD6xVnzNFHoTLTC+aSuIl4c9K06@[84.134.254.247]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Ffwqw-2Kvb960; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:32:34 +0200 Message-ID: <00ba01c678d4$0aee5830$0101a8c0@BUERO> From: "Johannes Wilke" To: "RSGB LF Group" References: <44624B53.8020406@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:32:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-ID: Tb01c8Z6wePpbvRTdi8ieLOFrZ7PD6xVnzNFHoTLTC+aSuIl4c9K06 X-TOI-MSGID: a7a4cea7-1422-424a-a117-150a327a9cbe X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DATONG VLF converter Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6955 Greetings all, I've found an old DATONG VLF converter without manual. Does somebody know the supply voltage and frequency range? 73 Jo, DK2PH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203115809032070620 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 34a0188a03040c7342ce46cf319a18e8740d8768 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs5521wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.246.4 with SMTP id t4mr2444215nfh; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si31751nfb.2006.05.15.12.41.16; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffirx-0006Sa-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:36:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ffirx-0006SR-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:36:41 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfkO6-00063o-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:14:03 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate05.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id k4FJa4qh016714 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:30 +0200 Received: from [217.248.195.243] by freemailng1803.web.de with HTTP; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:36:29 +0200 Message-Id: <785635144@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.137 Subject: Re: LF: Transformer idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6959 Dear JB, best for transformer constructons is Jerry Sevicks Book Transmission Line = Transformers, W2FMI ARRL Publications.=20 1. The material o f deflection transformers for LF is a good choice.=20 2. Remove the gap of the core, replace it by a minimal gap of one layer of= insulation foil in each leg. This to reduce residual remanent flux from a= bt 180 mT to abt. 30 mT 3. Look to the core as a rectangular "Toroid", at least as an UU-Core (CC-= Core) and spread the primary and secondary over the full perimeter to have= no stray paths. Ore Use two halves of the pri and sec. coils for an UU-Co= re. Or use two deflection cores as an EE-Core with rectangular cross secti= on... 4. the number of turns depends of the magnetic properties of the core mat= erial, not of any AL-value. See the basics in the catalogue of Amidon.com= or amidon.de. (Young Communication engineers lack the art of the calculus= of magnetic circuits...) I Have fed my marconi with an balun on an 61mm t= oroid , n=3D4 50R/200R, 200 Ohm is for the antenna side.=20 5. More details upon request.=20 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: rsgb=5Flf=5Fgroup@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 11.05.06 22:50:39 > An: > CC: > Betreff: LF: Transformer idea > Hi Guys, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I came up with an idea for a universal matching transformer based on inf= ormation >=20 > that I got from XKO's and GW4ALG's websites, and before I build it I tho= ught I'd >=20 > ask for your opinions and suggestions. It's for use with a Marconi ante= nna. >=20 > =20 >=20 > The core is a square toroid from a TV horizontal output transformer, mea= suring >=20 > about 3 inches on a side and a cross section of about 1/2 inch or so. A= ll of the >=20 > original windings have been removed and the two C pieces are tightly cla= mped >=20 > together. >=20 > =20 >=20 > My design would have a primary wound on one side of the square consistin= g of >=20 > 10 turns in total, with a tap at 9 turns. The first secondary would be = a single >=20 > winding of 8 turns wound directly over the primary. The second secondar= y is >=20 > different in that it would be 2 quadrafilar turns wound directly over th= e first two >=20 > windings and connected such that there would be taps at 2, 4, 6, and 8 t= urns. >=20 > The two secondary windings would be connected in series aiding, so that = the >=20 > available taps would be 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16 turns. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Depending on tap selection, there would be 10 different turns ratios ava= ilable >=20 > that would, with a 50 ohm input to the primary, give a range of output Z= from >=20 > 32 to 150 ohms. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Are there any flaws with this idea and should I go ahead and build it=3F >=20 > =20 >=20 > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr >=20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/=3Fmc=3D021192 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1203115809032070620 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8af29742a58ac45e7b843a6d80989236de674c81 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs9967wra; Thu, 11 May 2006 13:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.85.10 with SMTP id n10mr806153nfl; Thu, 11 May 2006 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n22si1298856nfc.2006.05.11.13.50.45; Thu, 11 May 2006 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FeI3W-00089g-9k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 21:46:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FeI3V-00089X-N6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 21:46:41 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FeJyJ-0001ho-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 23:49:42 +0100 Received: from server (dial-156.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.156]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id F000217E95; Thu, 11 May 2006 16:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01c67534$173471e0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:49:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.953,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Transformer idea Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6753C.55B74700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6960 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6753C.55B74700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, I came up with an idea for a universal matching transformer based on = information that I got from XKO's and GW4ALG's websites, and before I build it I = thought I'd ask for your opinions and suggestions. It's for use with a Marconi = antenna. The core is a square toroid from a TV horizontal output transformer, = measuring about 3 inches on a side and a cross section of about 1/2 inch or so. = All of the original windings have been removed and the two C pieces are tightly = clamped together. My design would have a primary wound on one side of the square = consisting of 10 turns in total, with a tap at 9 turns. The first secondary would be = a single winding of 8 turns wound directly over the primary. The second = secondary is different in that it would be 2 quadrafilar turns wound directly over = the first two windings and connected such that there would be taps at 2, 4, 6, and 8 = turns. The two secondary windings would be connected in series aiding, so that = the available taps would be 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16 turns. Depending on tap selection, there would be 10 different turns ratios = available that would, with a 50 ohm input to the primary, give a range of output Z = from 32 to 150 ohms. Are there any flaws with this idea and should I go ahead and build it? 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6753C.55B74700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Guys,
 
I came up with an idea for a universal = matching=20 transformer based on information
that I got from XKO's and GW4ALG's = websites, and=20 before I build it I thought I'd
ask for your opinions and = suggestions.  It's=20 for use with a Marconi antenna.
 
The core is a square toroid from a TV = horizontal=20 output transformer, measuring
about 3 inches on a side and a cross = section of=20 about 1/2 inch or so.  All of the
original windings have been removed and = the two C=20 pieces are tightly clamped
together.
 
My design would have a primary wound on = one side of=20 the square consisting of
10 turns in total, with a tap at 9 = turns.  The first secondary would be a single
winding of 8 turns wound directly over = the=20 primary.  The second secondary is
different in that it would be 2 = quadrafilar turns=20 wound directly over the first two
windings and connected such that there = would be=20 taps at 2, 4, 6, and 8 turns.
The two secondary windings would be = connected in=20 series aiding, so that the
available taps would be 8, 10, 12, 14, = and 16=20 turns.
 
Depending on tap selection, there would = be 10=20 different turns ratios available
that would, with a 50 ohm input to the = primary,=20 give a range of output Z from
32 to 150 ohms.
 
Are there any flaws with this idea and = should I go=20 ahead and build it?
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C6753C.55B74700-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202670627017534235 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 25bc52c7b1bbf1f192a484c00d263449a8b72b8b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs46679wra; Sat, 6 May 2006 15:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.65.2 with SMTP id s2mr69721nfk; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si417329nfc.2006.05.06.15.54.47; Sat, 06 May 2006 15:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVeM-0003aF-Bg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:53:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FcVeL-0003a6-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 23:53:21 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FcX6B-0001x4-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 01:26:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 83518 invoked from network); 6 May 2006 22:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.124.200 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2006 22:53:16 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 23:54:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <000c01c67159$81b52c00$a3728351@lark> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.932,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C67168.6A94EC40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6968 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C67168.6A94EC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan, Jose, LF, My RX Loop was pointing the wrong may, and I didn't see EA1PX until I switched to the vertical. Thanks for the warning! EA1PX is my first 2-way QSO with Spain. Screenshot attached. Copy "O" at first, becoming "M" 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 06 May 2006 23:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX "O" at 2250 BST whoops 2150z Sorry wrong time Jose 2150z I forget my machines use BST so i get to bed sometime before it is too late! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Melia To: Sent: 06 May 2006 22:54 Subject: LF: EA1PX "O" at 2250z > Hi Jose, I have a nice QRSS3 CQ signal from you on the screen despite some > noise, and some local qrm. 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rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: accd837c9b49eec17455342f76a6a591513def78 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs10505wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.20 with SMTP id p20mr53206nfp; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x24si2931729nfb.2006.05.30.14.18.36; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlBa3-0000Uz-MH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 22:16:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlBa3-0000Uq-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 22:16:47 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by 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X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=NO(0.520407) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.216 Subject: Re: LF: TU in Morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6983 Hi all, I believe in RTTY contests it means both, consider a short exchange: > TEST DE SP5ZCC SP5ZCC CQ < SP5ZCC DE G3XDV G3XDV > G3XDV TU 599 010 010 < SP5ZCC TU 599 012 012 > G3XDV TU DE SP5ZCC CQ During long contest hours I've been trying to figure that out, but seems that people use it interchangeably, because it is useful for making short macros. BTW this whole QSO takes less time than a dot in some QRSS modes :) 73! Marek SQ5BPM Mike Dennison wrote: > TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) > than TKS or TNX. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > >> I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will >> confirm!!! >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian >> Sent: 30 May 2006 18:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: >> Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) >> >> >> also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ >> On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. >> >> Bryan >> >> > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204825919009180825 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a0354e5d9c3dddc3da679132b23420f55c44c75 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs8312wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.144.8 with SMTP id r8mr381nfd; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si5612450nfc.2006.05.30.13.34.12; Tue, 30 May 2006 13:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FlAt8-0000Fi-5r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:32:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FlAt7-0000FY-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:32:25 +0100 Received: from web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FlAt3-0000X3-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:32:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 68934 invoked by uid 60001); 30 May 2006 20:31:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=W09ZvnEcn9p31DKK0YcViv8pJl799u2CWhbGs0EcejEGrxsCvRGo2NGQUGo6gGw34xcW9fZ12tmyUj0WKUD/hWZQugHC9ctPVFHlo2f9jGXhXdGfvcCRZ7C1vCV9iQ8gO2oRRE6PBbAKqb6zAN6Hijvg+Ih6iLxJV7ITP96zqc4= ; Message-ID: <20060530203115.68932.qmail@web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 May 2006 21:31:15 BST Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:31:15 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TU in Morse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2013028889-1149021075=:66105" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6984 --0-2013028889-1149021075=:66105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TU certainly had me confused when I first started receiving on 136. When I was using RTTY in the 70's and 80's, TU and its longer version BTU meant "To You" and "Back To You". Have not used RTTY for many years so don't know whether it is still in use. Brian, G3YKB Mike Dennison wrote: TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) than TKS or TNX. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will > confirm!!! > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > --------------------------------- Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal --0-2013028889-1149021075=:66105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
TU certainly had me confused when I first started receiving on 136. When I was using RTTY in the 70's and 80's, TU and its longer version BTU meant "To You" and "Back To You". Have not used RTTY for many years so don't know whether it is still in use.
 
Brian, G3YKB

Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com> wrote:
TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS)
than TKS or TNX.

Mike, G3XDV
==========

> I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will
> confirm!!!
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT
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"The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal --0-2013028889-1149021075=:66105-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204825919009180825 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: deaed9fb0f00a9a7401a8fbe477579b2abfb0f7a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs3798wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.144.8 with SMTP id r8mr2828066nfd; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si5516210nfc.2006.05.30.11.26.24; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8rv-00087o-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 19:23:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8rv-00087f-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 19:23:03 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl8rr-0007cY-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 19:23:03 +0100 Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-4-153.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.233.153]) by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E52191C0050A for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 20:22:42 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060530182242938.E52191C0050A@mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200605302022090984.4B25E4F8@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> References: <006701c6840a$c791d340$11c428c3@captbrian> <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:22:09 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.969,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: TU in Morse Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6985 TU was also used on 500kHz to mean "thank you". John F5VLF *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 30/05/2006 at 18:48 Mike Dennison wrote: >TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) >than TKS or TNX. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1204825919009180825 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 76070242df9b8713a5004ab4e9257d8970bcfe8d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs2005wra; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.211.2 with SMTP id j2mr2790065nfg; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si5488732nfc.2006.05.30.10.52.13; Tue, 30 May 2006 10:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8Kk-0007nb-1a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fl8Kj-0007nS-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:45 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47] helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fl8Kf-0007He-CO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:45 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060530174835.UIXP29343.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:35 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060530174835.JIQO16286.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:35 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:48:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <447C9379.11105.E56D34@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <006701c6840a$c791d340$11c428c3@captbrian> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.221,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: TU in Morse Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6986 TU means "thank you" and is more efficient (particularly in QRSS) than TKS or TNX. Mike, G3XDV ========== > I have always assumed TU to be "To You", perhaps someone will > confirm!!! > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of captbrian > Sent: 30 May 2006 18:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: > Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to do? (2) > > > also 'tks' but that's not the point ; what is 'TU'?/ > On same topic when an EA sends '55' to a DL , what does he mean. > > Bryan > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202347816847693184 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a1642505205564dd4852f5c6e4ef6db7f3c8c23f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs22381wra; Wed, 3 May 2006 02:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.88.10 with SMTP id q10mr775591nfl; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p45si3397468nfa.2006.05.03.02.23.51; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDY1-00021x-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:21:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FbDY1-00021o-8Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 10:21:29 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbEy7-0003Vf-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 11:52:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 79559 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 09:21:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.21 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2006 09:21:24 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c66e92$f2ae0810$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <000701c66e90$c21a7e60$01e8fc3e@g3kev> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:21:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.353 Subject: LF: Re: Wilkinson Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7022 >From G3PLX: Mal: The big resistor should not dissipate anything at all if the two amplifiers are both operating and giving the same output power. Only if one amplifier output drops below the output of the other does the resistor dissipate energy. In this case it dissipates the energy which, in the absence of a combiner of this type, would have flowed from one amplifier into the other and could have destroyed one amplifier (or the other (or both)). 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202134720365491628 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 535294b5e50178f7c1942e979b3b995d1c9294d1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs13972wra; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.212.16 with SMTP id k16mr2207622nfg; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si808461nfa.2006.04.30.17.56.46; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FaMgt-0004m2-Of for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:55:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FaMgt-0004lt-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 01:55:07 +0100 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FaOXe-0006XR-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:53:57 +0100 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id z3so2310037nzf for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lQthI6rTzTV6HTH3EcJtB/Aot5Fjsi6hhWYvHojwFwjOJK217xkjCgMxd0q2jd8nw8U+70rbJSpcj1cGuCxOScUWokUqNnlWJoMejitze3gOsjdhXkHFiKxiiDctV4Z3Lwh6wDNLskoNLBTOX+Pa9y+NGMG00B0/b9YPNU4dmTA= Received: by 10.65.150.15 with SMTP id c15mr871786qbo; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.182.15 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d2415e0604301207x724753efi6e3c0f9884bfaa0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:07:52 +0100 From: "lawrence mayhead" To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=0.713,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26687_11169175.1146424072032" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7071 ------=_Part_26687_11169175.1146424072032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline No message ------=_Part_26687_11169175.1146424072032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline No message
------=_Part_26687_11169175.1146424072032-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202280352879964116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5b27c0b05d89ba10113886c683adfbfe0e5f3d7e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs11971wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.3 with SMTP id m3mr648486nfe; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si2914934nfc.2006.05.02.08.51.00; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fax7E-0007SP-09 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:48:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fax7D-0007SG-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:48:43 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FayyY-0005ay-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 18:48:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 22411 invoked from network); 2 May 2006 15:48:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 02 May 2006 15:48:18 -0000 Message-ID: <44577F18.4000902@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 11:47:36 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1106115301.20060502172448@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1106115301.20060502172448@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.196 Subject: Re: LF: T/A May, 1/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7099 Hartmut: >01:00-01:30 appeared a long dash just below 137.779 kHz. Probably John, WD2XES testing the PA?< Nothing escapes you, does it? tnx. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1202280352879964116 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 32fadea2c545c2f4be706bff8d5b3441bf8422cd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs11293wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.13 with SMTP id y13mr623712nfk; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si2445033nfc.2006.05.02.08.31.32; Tue, 02 May 2006 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fawla-0007Fa-Ac for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:26:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FawlZ-0007FR-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:26:21 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Faycs-0005Pg-R4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 May 2006 18:25:49 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FawlG-0006mj-01; Tue, 02 May 2006 17:26:02 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ZYgOReZHYeSQuuojawkGJMnk0uP8gNVVJrujxkXxjMPtuK8Gan82Yv@[84.133.81.236]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Fawk6-0f7uW80; Tue, 2 May 2006 17:24:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:24:48 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1106115301.20060502172448@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ZYgOReZHYeSQuuojawkGJMnk0uP8gNVVJrujxkXxjMPtuK8Gan82Yv X-TOI-MSGID: 0a291fb3-4865-48a4-bac7-626b879b0702 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.911 Subject: LF: T/A May, 1/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7100 Copied VO1NA 22:55-03:30 (QRSS30) and WD2XGJ 01:40-03:00. Nothing here from Warren, WD2XGJ after 03:00. 01:00-01:30 appeared a long dash just below 137.779 kHz. Probably John, WD2XES testing the PA? Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp