From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:19:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEUyi-0002bF-VL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:19:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEUyh-0002aa-Vs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:19:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEUyZ-0006AP-3f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:18:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEUyY-0006AG-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:18:58 +0000 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEWSi-0004B5-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:54:28 +0000 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr (mwinf1308 [172.22.144.38]) by mwinf1305.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8ED941C0E99D for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:18:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1308.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7413070000E1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:18:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-128.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-128.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.128]) by mwinf1308.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5EF0F70000B4 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:18:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060301171824388.5EF0F70000B4@mwinf1308.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:17:28 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Subject: LF: Re[2]: TA (part two) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010207010607060406090107" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010207010607060406090107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Jay Rusgrove wrote: > ... > I would be interested to see a capture if you could send one along. > ... Hi Jay, my post was rejected as the attachment was too big. I tried to do it as small as possible, And I resend it in two tiny parts now. The config was for QRSS120, the signal is a little bit compressed... but anyway... Best 73 ! 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<004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Subject: LF: Re[2]: TA (part one) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010304090709080603040706" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010304090709080603040706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Jay Rusgrove wrote: > ... > I would be interested to see a capture if you could send one along. > ... Hi Jay, my post was rejected as the attachment was too big. I tried to do it as small as possible, And I resend it in two tiny parts now. The config was for QRSS120, the signal is a little bit compressed... but anyway... Best 73 ! 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Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:54:35 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEVWU-0008HB-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:54:03 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FEUav-00087c-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:54:33 +0100 Received: from p5486bde0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.189.224] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #60) id 1FEUau-0000JJ-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4405D1B0.2040700@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:54:08 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Markus, Impressive capture - much better than what I ever received from DF0WD/DK4U- and very "monochrome" appearance ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF markusvester@aol.com schrieb: > Hello Part-5-ers and LF Group, > > pleased to report excellent copy also in Nuernberg - see grabber > snapshot saved at > > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603010600.gif (277 kB) > > Thanks for the effort of keeping your signals on air for us. > > 73 de Markus, DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:20:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEU40-0004G3-CO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:20:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEU3z-0004EP-L2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:20:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEU3U-0005jG-CO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:20:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEU3T-0005j7-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:19:59 +0000 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEUyz-000810-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:19:27 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20162 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEU3N-000Be4-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:19:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c63d4b$f70b43f0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:19:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010601010406070707070206" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010601010406070707070206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, Excellent copy of Joe's signal from 00:30 to well after local sunrise at 06:30. XNS and XES good copy after 02:00 / 03:30 UTC. 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1FETz0-0007nf-E6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FETyj-0005dv-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FETyj-0005dm-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:05 +0000 Received: from smtpout0180.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.180] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEVSs-0003Yy-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:50:33 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.204.46) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793002F9D19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:12:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c63d4a$fdf2cd60$2eccfc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:17:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All Reducing Noise in home LF receiving Installations. See article by WA4GHK lwca.org/library/articles/wa4ghk/gnd_isol.htm This might help those with mains noise problems on LF rx. 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FETgA-00046O-W4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FETgA-00044b-RD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FETfe-0005UJ-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FETfe-0005UA-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:22 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.200.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEUb9-0007L4-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:54:49 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006030115551201200j5nree>; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:55:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c63d4a$d83712c0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> <4405A83A.6030503@w1tag.com> <003b01c63d43$0a34e660$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:11:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: for Jay Rusgrove Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Jean-Pierre
 
Thanks for the captures. Looks like you have your receiving setup working well!
 
Tried e mailing you direct earlier but my message was bounced :~(
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: LF: for Jay Rusgrove

Jay ,
Test like that:  http://jpmere.online.fr/Jay/
 there are 2 files for you !

73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:17:04 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FET4Y-0001P9-99 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:17:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FET4Y-0001ME-2u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:17:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FET3h-0005Eu-Ii for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:16:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FET3c-0005Ek-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:16:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FETz5-00075C-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:30 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A55384F619 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:15:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003b01c63d43$0a34e660$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> <4405A83A.6030503@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:15:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: for Jay Rusgrove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay , Test like that: http://jpmere.online.fr/Jay/ there are 2 files for you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:28:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FESJe-0007oN-Lj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:28:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FESJe-0007nl-E9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:28:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FESJF-0004yT-4V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:28:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FESJ9-0004yK-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:28:03 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FETnF-0002Fd-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:03:30 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 24C0F4F563 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:27:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004401c63d3c$3cdc23f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:27:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Fw: Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > Jay sorry not possible !!!!! > > 73 JP > > 'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The Postfix program > > : host gateway-s.comcast.net[63.240.76.26] said: > 550-212.27.42.28 blocked by ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net 550 Blocked > for > abuse. Please send blacklist removal requests to > blacklist_comcastnet@cable.comcast.com - Be sure to include your mail > server IP ADDRESS. (in reply to MAIL FROM command) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Rusgrove" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS > > >> Jean-Pierre >> >> Please use jrusgrove@comcast.net >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Jay >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean-Pierre Méré" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM >> Subject: LF: Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS >> >> >>> Hi Jay , >>> Give me an adress email because it is not possible to pass the screen >>> printings ! >>> >>> > : host gateway-s.comcast.net[204.127.202.26] >>> > said: >>> > 550-212.27.42.29 blocked by ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net 550 >>> > Blocked >>> > for >>> > abuse. Please send blacklist removal requests to >>> > blacklist_comcastnet@cable.comcast.com - Be sure to include your >>> > mail >>> > server IP ADDRESS. (in reply to MAIL FROM command) >>> > >>> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FERlC-0003dH-0m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FERlB-0003cs-QE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FERkb-0004kI-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FERka-0004k9-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.238]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FESg3-0006NT-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:51:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 9251 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2006 13:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2006 13:51:09 -0000 Message-ID: <4405A83A.6030503@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:14 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) My thanks also to Markus, Jean-Pierre (both!), Hartmut, Alan, and others for the continuing reports and screen shots. Jay and I are only 100 km apart, and it is fascinating to see the differences in fading. The fact that he now has the stronger signal does not bother me a bit. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:44:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEQgw-0000ze-8g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:44:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEQgv-0000x3-J3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:44:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQgC-0004Pa-V7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:43:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQg7-0004PR-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:43:39 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FERbZ-0005u2-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:43:03 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id BB9927ABF2 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:43:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002601c63d2d$c19ef2c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:43:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jay , Give me an adress email because it is not possible to pass the screen printings ! > : host gateway-s.comcast.net[204.127.202.26] said: > 550-212.27.42.29 blocked by ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net 550 Blocked > for > abuse. Please send blacklist removal requests to > blacklist_comcastnet@cable.comcast.com - Be sure to include your mail > server IP ADDRESS. (in reply to MAIL FROM command) > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:03:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEQ2x-00015w-Ak for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:03:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEQ2w-00015P-KB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:03:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQ2d-00049b-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:02:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQ2d-00049S-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:02:51 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FERWi-0000Qa-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:38:15 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.65.56366f45 (16110) for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from FWM-M37 (fwm-m37.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.239]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID122-3eee44058d4f360; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:23 -0500 Message-Id: <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> From: markusvester@aol.com References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Received: from 217.194.32.30 by FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.239) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:23 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 15106 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AOL-IP: 64.12.193.239 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello Part-5-ers and LF Group,
 
pleased to report excellent copy also in Nuernberg - see grabber snapshot saved at
 
 
Thanks for the effort of keeping your signals on air for us.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:25:11 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEPS9-0003He-IO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:25:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEPS9-0003HY-Dp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:25:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEPRN-0003ww-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:24:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEPRN-0003wn-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:24:21 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEQMo-0004wr-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:23:43 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006030111233101100km8c6e>; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:23:36 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 06:23:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks to F5YG and F1AFJ for the reports. I would be interested to see a capture if you could send one along. Yes, XNS has been found hiding, out of sight, on more than one Argo or Spectrum Lab screen! Appreciate your taking the time to watch and report your results. This, of course, also goes for Hartmut, Alan, grabbers G3YXM, HA6PX, DF6NM, CT1DRP and everyone else that sends reports. Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Godet" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA > And here, JN09XI, about 250 miles Northward : > NA : 0030 ==> 0605 ; > XKO : 0245 ==> 0330 ; > XES : 0415 ==> 0530 ; > XGJ : 0415 ==> 0600 ; > XNS : 0335 ==> 0625 UTC. > > First time for me that I meet the opportunity to copy so many beacons in > the same night. Thank you to all ! My friend F1AFJ gave me a telling-off > because I use a too small window. I increased a little bit, the size of > the window, from four to five hertz monday evening (137,776.5 ==> > 137,781.5 Hz), so, no problem to receive Jay's beacon now. > > Best 73 to all ! > > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:15:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FENQV-0006XW-5P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:15:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FENQU-0006X6-UH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:15:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FENQB-0003OH-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:14:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FENQA-0003O8-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:14:58 +0000 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEOuD-0007Gr-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:50:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 125FE1C00088 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:14:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-240.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-240.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.240]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45A851C00091 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:14:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060301091436285.45A851C00091@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:13:41 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit And here, JN09XI, about 250 miles Northward : NA : 0030 ==> 0605 ; XKO : 0245 ==> 0330 ; XES : 0415 ==> 0530 ; XGJ : 0415 ==> 0600 ; XNS : 0335 ==> 0625 UTC. First time for me that I meet the opportunity to copy so many beacons in the same night. Thank you to all ! My friend F1AFJ gave me a telling-off because I use a too small window. I increased a little bit, the size of the window, from four to five hertz monday evening (137,776.5 ==> 137,781.5 Hz), so, no problem to receive Jay's beacon now. Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FENEH-00087c-2e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FENEG-00087W-Uz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FENDm-0003FZ-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FENDl-0003FQ-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0162.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.162] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEO99-00041y-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:01:28 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.66) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793002EC20E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:02:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c63d0e$cb5cf060$42e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:58:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: NAVSTAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Many thanks to all those that replied to my enquiry. It is a LF or MF active antenna because it has two ferrite pot core chokes in the DC line. Agn tnx de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:21 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEN95-0003M3-Gj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEN95-0003Lo-AU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:19 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEN8r-00039z-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEN8q-00039q-Gv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:04 +0000 Received: from omc2-s12.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEO4C-0003zg-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:56:23 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.120]) by omc2-s12.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:56:55 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:56:55 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:56:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" References: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:56:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:56:52 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2006 08:56:55.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[171F46C0:01C63D0E] Subject: LF: Re: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline... 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Looked at the schematic of the PS (Astron RS-35M) and low and behold, there was the ground wire for the negative terminal going right to the A/C mains ground lug. Clipped the ground wire and re-assembled PS. Fired up Mini on a band from DC to 22kc. Wow what a huge difference with nearly zero zip nada buzzsaw sucker anymore. Solid VLF signals as well as quiet noise up the dial with Wahoo signals thru the MW BC band (1.7mc). Now to make up a long patch cord that will get a zillion turns on one of those big sucker toroids. That'll be tomorrow, I'm beat...
 
A huge thanks Bill & to all the others who have told me about grounding the feedline inside as well as outside and isolation transformers. The noise is nearly gone now and I will get it down to nothing very soon.
 
73's,
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Ashlock
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline...

Mike,
 
You would need a rather large bead/core that would allow enough turns to have enough inductance to be effective. BTW check out the reference that John D posted yesterday for another approach. The better the ground under the probe the less the inductance required if you use the bead approach. The location should be in the shack to prevent the lead-in from becoming an antenna radiating junk to the probe.
 
Why not feed the DC on the probe side of a typical 1 to 1 core in the shack? Like I said last night the power supply must be isolated from ground. The typical transformer feeding the rectifier in that supply should provide this isolation, but you have to be sure the house safety ground is not connected to the - side of the supply.
 
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline...

Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the ground wire connection on the braid is.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc
EN35hj
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMu3-0006Yw-Rz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMu3-0006Yj-M4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMtk-00031i-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMtj-00031Z-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:27 +0000 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FENp7-0003ts-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:40:46 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20108 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEMti-000P2l-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:41:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c63d0b$ec2f5f60$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <440516F4.5000600@hifidelity.com> <010a01c63d05$cf3fe600$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:41:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Peter, I have been experimenting with an isolating transformer in the past. It was mounted in a plastic enclosure and stray capacitance was kept to a minimum. It did not work properly. An other disadvantage is that for a practical transformer VLF performance is suffering quite a bit. I have measured the source of the noise, using a battery powered SLM. It appeared that the noise was picked up on the shield of the coax running inside the house. Connecting the shield to a good radio earth before entering the house, solved my noise problem. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:16:10 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMVE-0001gH-GP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:16:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMVE-0001eK-Bg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:16:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMUo-0002qp-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:15:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMUi-0002qg-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FENyi-0006jQ-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:50:57 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 69E0718995 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:15:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:15:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
Hello all , on the list !
 
The last night copy of the TA beacon :
 
00:30 to 07:00   NA
02:00 to 06:00  XNS , XGJ , XES , XKO  
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:59:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMF9-0003Qr-Td for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:59:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEMF9-0003QX-Ok for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:59:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMEb-0002is-3C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMEa-0002ij-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:56 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FENiZ-0006ae-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:34:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 96702 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <010a01c63d05$cf3fe600$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <440516F4.5000600@hifidelity.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mike; As Steve says, you will need a huge choke in the braid to have much effect. What you are trying to do is form a potential divider, with your choke at the top and 'the impedance-to-ground of the base of the whip' at the bottom, to attenuate noise from the shack getting onto the whip. My suggestion, which is much easier, is to go for an isolating transformer rather than a braid choke. Put two equal windings on opposite sides of a small toroid so that the stray-capacitance is kept to a minimum. Don't put the transformer into a metal box with coax connectors on each end! Another thing to realise is that if your isolation transformer is really working, then you MUST install a ground connection at the base of the whip. If you put the isolation transformer at the whip end of the feeder, then the whip cannot use the feeder braid as a ground return so it really does need a separate connection to ground. Remember this if you plan to put the whip in a tree! I would suggest installing the transformer at the shack end of the feeder run for this reason, but other people may not agree with me. Try it both ends and see what happens. If the whip has a pre-amp inside it which needs power, then you have another problem - how to get power to it without re-introducing the noise up the power cable. That's a more difficult one to solve. The quick answer is to run the whip pre-amp from a battery. The proper answer is to run AC power through a low-capacitance isolating transformer and build the whip PSU at it's base. 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEJ8v-0004Ya-KH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEJ8v-0004YL-E6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEJ8M-0002Ao-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEJ8M-0002Af-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:18 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEKcK-0004q9-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:15:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (really [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060301043950.MUIL853.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@[192.168.1.2]> for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:39:50 -0700 Message-ID: <44052596.7030909@telus.net> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:39:50 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c63c87$671f64c0$1bd0fc3e@your4105e587b6> In-Reply-To: <000701c63c87$671f64c0$1bd0fc3e@your4105e587b6> Subject: Re: LF: NAVSTAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mal Contact Robert, VE7CYB he's on the LW reflector and a marine tech who knows all about this stuff... He may even have the spec's for your antenna. Scott g3kev wrote: > Hi All > I have a ships small LF antenna NAVSTAR. It is enclosed in a white > plastic case and the actual antenna is a single sided copper clad > board 475 mm long by 35 mm wide. This is attached to an amplifier with > 3 transistors, one 2N3823 and two 2N3904, there are two pot cores at > the output side going to the coax to RX. > > Does anyone know this antenna/amp or have a cct and voltage info. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:24 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEIjI-0005Zc-3m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1FEIjH-0005ZR-Up for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEIiy-000215-Cj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEIix-00020w-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:03 +0000 Received: from omc3-s5.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.79]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEKCs-0004ej-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:49:20 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.122]) by omc3-s5.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:13:41 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:13:41 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:13:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <440516F4.5000600@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:13:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:13:37 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2006 04:13:41.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[85E43CF0:01C63CE6] Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... 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Thank you Steve. Yes I have many of those FT240-77 cores here. I will wind one up tonight on the feedline. Easy fix huh?
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dove
To: we0h
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline...

Hi Mike,

Bingo.  Except you need a whole lot more than beads will win
you  -  ideally reactance up into the kohms.  10-20 turns of
coax around a big lump of 77 or 'J' material (I use the 2.4
inch toroids Jay was selling a few months ago, though 1.4"
work well, too).  This is the Whacking Great Common-Mode
Choke (W.G.C-M.C.) I mentioned the other night.  Should be
at the grounding point, on the coax going to the receiver,
*not* the antenna.

         Cheers,

                 Steve


MIKE REID wrote:
> Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna
> lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add
> them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the
> ground wire connection on the braid is.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc
> EN35hj
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Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the ground wire connection on the braid is.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc
EN35hj
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199238509748492663 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: abd594f05d744826e99aef8753b688d4123f4439 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs16671wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.233.6 with SMTP id f6mr960356qbh; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:42:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si172254qbc.2006.03.29.17.42.44; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOm9O-0006cv-6h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:40:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOm9N-0006cm-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5897 Hello the list, There appears to be good transatlantic propagation seeing XGJ on Dave Pick's grabber: http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ Also pretty good into Hungary: http://starjan.hu/~ha6px/ha6px_TA and not to forget Markus in Nuremberg, Germany: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198938826136251172 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d4270ce68208968c04781d48ebf9bab21292429b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs11958wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.156.11 with SMTP id i11mr2747129qbo; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:35:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si20867qba.2006.03.27.12.34.59; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNyMS-00086I-UT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:30:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNyMS-000869-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:30:48 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNzUl-0008VJ-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:43:28 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FNyLS-00010H-9m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:29:46 +0200 Received: from p5486ac43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.172.67] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FNyLS-0007SW-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:29:46 +0200 Message-ID: <44284B62.8060402@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:30:26 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> <44281315.7000101@freenet.de> <442830EF.9040808@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <442830EF.9040808@w1tag.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.074 Subject: Re: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5900 John Andrews schrieb: > Wolf, > > Thanks for trying. Being 6 dB down from my regular power isn't > helping, either. I'm going to try a QRP session tonight to see what > happens in the eastern U.S. and Canada. Looks like it will be noisy in > DL, anyway. > Exactly. We already had a couple of "near misses" from the lightning strokes this afternoon; fortunately the antennas were disconnected just in time. Since Hartmut "only" (!) copied the WOLF5 signal but not WOLF10 yesterday, I think I was many dB's away from copy. Anyway good luck with tonight's test ! Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198938826136251172 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8d4bbcce2ea9409796b6416950afcd1995419b2d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8461wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.72.7 with SMTP id z7mr2615935qbk; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:33:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si2450497qba.2006.03.27.10.33.54; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNwSm-0007pU-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:29:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNwSl-0007pL-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:29:11 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNxb1-0008An-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:41:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 30027 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2006 18:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 27 Mar 2006 18:27:59 -0000 Message-ID: <442830EF.9040808@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:37:35 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> <44281315.7000101@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <44281315.7000101@freenet.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.213 Subject: Re: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5901 Wolf, Thanks for trying. Being 6 dB down from my regular power isn't helping, either. I'm going to try a QRP session tonight to see what happens in the eastern U.S. and Canada. Looks like it will be noisy in DL, anyway. John Andrews Wolf DL4YHF wrote: > Sorry John, no decode here when the station ran overnight. > But I suspect my WLAN-audio-connection occasionally dropped audio > packets occasionally, which may have spoiled the soup. Besides that, > heavy QRM, and temperatures rose by over 10�C within 24 hours in this > part of Germany. > > Hoping for better news soon. > 73, Wolf DL4YHF . > > John Andrews schrieb: > >> WD2XES will again be running WOLF at 10 b/s on 137.577 kHz, and 5 b/s >> on 137.442 kHz tonight, starting by 2330 UTC. The power on each >> channel will be about 80 watts. Reports, particularly of simultaneous >> copy, would be appreciated. >> >> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES >> >> >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198938826136251172 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9f1c2b9da2b58072c6157f65cfba4bc49109253f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5867wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.59.16 with SMTP id m16mr773789qbk; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:34:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si2225997qbe.2006.03.27.08.34.55; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNuck-0007PJ-3p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:31:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNucj-0007PA-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:31:21 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNwGc-0008Li-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:16:54 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FNubU-0007S5-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:30:04 +0200 Received: from p54868e94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.142.148] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FNubU-0000hT-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: <44281315.7000101@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:30:13 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.070 Subject: Re: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5902 Sorry John, no decode here when the station ran overnight. But I suspect my WLAN-audio-connection occasionally dropped audio packets occasionally, which may have spoiled the soup. Besides that, heavy QRM, and temperatures rose by over 10�C within 24 hours in this part of Germany. Hoping for better news soon. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . John Andrews schrieb: > WD2XES will again be running WOLF at 10 b/s on 137.577 kHz, and 5 b/s > on 137.442 kHz tonight, starting by 2330 UTC. The power on each > channel will be about 80 watts. Reports, particularly of simultaneous > copy, would be appreciated. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198938826136251172 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: efda19a1c2e2d0fa5ba8b24466307cd621706422 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs27584wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.23.17 with SMTP id a17mr1893564ugj; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:19:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si896290ugf.2006.03.26.10.19.24; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNZkP-00023Z-Np for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:13:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNZkP-00023Q-DI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:13:53 +0100 Received: from mxsf35.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.160]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNbNw-0000fJ-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:59:04 +0100 Received: from mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.149]) by mxsf35.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2QIDUUB031658 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:13:30 -0500 Received: from 68-118-232-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.118.232.97]) by mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2006 13:13:30 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,130,1141621200"; d="scan'208"; a="138231704:sNHT22966116" Message-ID: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:13:57 +0100 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lowfer@lwca.org" , "rs >> \"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org\"" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.911 Subject: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5903 WD2XES will again be running WOLF at 10 b/s on 137.577 kHz, and 5 b/s on 137.442 kHz tonight, starting by 2330 UTC. The power on each channel will be about 80 watts. Reports, particularly of simultaneous copy, would be appreciated. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199161123185096469 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6a6efb7af898d95ee1df6080f1c537c7a08ee284 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7491wrc; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.193.12 with SMTP id v12mr815120qbp; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:13:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si473924qba.2006.03.30.06.13.12; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxrS-0000AI-7q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:10:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxrR-0000A8-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:10:53 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOz15-0000ZH-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:24:56 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter91.comcast.net ([204.127.197.191]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060330141045m1400sm665e>; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:45 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter91.comcast.net; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:44 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Godet Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:44 +0000 Message-Id: <033020061410.20101.442BE6E3000E9BAB00004E8522070208530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.863 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ lat night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5905 Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Godet > 0045 ==> 0200 UTC > > 73 ! > > F5YG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199161123185096469 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9ac712e513a5f225b29a2e0231346e608b187a5a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs19001wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.11.11 with SMTP id o11mr1008902qbi; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:47:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e11si416077qbc.2006.03.29.20.47.28; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOp2T-00075c-5C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 05:45:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOp2S-00075T-MU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 05:45:40 +0100 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOqBu-0003Ca-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:59:31 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9158B700008A for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:45:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-192.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-192.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.192]) by mwinf1307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DCD837000085 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:45:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060330044522904.DCD837000085@mwinf1307.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:43:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <000401c64b6e$33e2b8a0$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.076 Subject: LF: XGJ lat night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5906 0045 ==> 0200 UTC 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199161123185096469 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 648812f2b896fb085fa7147c4abc103c8138c3ad Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs20125wrc; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.114.10 with SMTP id m10mr58434qbc; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:12:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si572962qbd.2006.03.28.21.12.43; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOSsG-0003Id-U3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:05:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOSsG-0003IU-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:05:40 +0100 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOUWj-0005SW-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:51:48 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0612.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BBA6D1C00144 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:05:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-112.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.112]) by mwinf0612.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0311B1C00129 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:05:18 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060329050519126.0311B1C00129@mwinf0612.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:03:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000401c64b6e$33e2b8a0$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: References: <000401c64b6e$33e2b8a0$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.893 Subject: LF: XGJ lat night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5907 Yesterday night, nothing received. Last night (28/29th) only XGJ : 0005 ==> 0025 UTC slowly drifting from 137,779.65 to 137,779.6 Hz, then QSB, and, steady on the last frequency, 0115 ==> 0430 UTC. Thank you and best 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199227942332041442 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 71a89d46e6780aa3ed0f6c0811ac8f670bac8bd5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs13673wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.97.20 with SMTP id z20mr873353qbl; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si326871qba.2006.03.29.14.54.46; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOjTB-00061N-K0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:48:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOjT5-00061E-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:48:47 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOkcO-0007k5-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:02:31 +0100 Received: from jsm (unknown [209.121.17.77]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A25AB74C5; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:45:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003801c65381$ab8f0000$4d1179d1@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: Cc: References: <80e5595c0603270438lac3fb45h40caa80d200783c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:39:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.029,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Trans-Pacific Tests Announcement Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C6533E.87CEE9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5909 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C6533E.87CEE9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The next round of Trans-Pacific testing between ZM2E (Quartz Hill, New = Zealand) and VA7LF (South Pender Island, B.C.) will take place next week = on the nights of April 3, 4 and 5 (Mon-Wed). Testing will begin shortly = after sunset at VA7LF (Apr 4-6 0630 UTC approximately) and will continue = until sunrise the following day (1400 UTC). The frequency will be the = same as previously used, 137.7890 / 137.7886 kHz (0.4 Hz shift) at = FSK90. Following the schedule with VA7LF, ZM2E will continue with R6L = until sunrise in New Zealand. Reception reports via the reflectors are = encouraged.=20 The VA7LF site will be internet equipped. If we are able to get things = set up smoothly, we may be on the air for testing on Sunday night. Since = we will be at our maximum erp limit, we hope to have some time available = to attempt some crossband (HF-LF) cw-cw QSO's or QRSS - cw contacts in = our early evening hours (0300-0600 UTC). Any stations interested in = attempting a crossband QSO can contact us via the low frequency = reflectors. Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C6533E.87CEE9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
The next round of Trans-Pacific testing between ZM2E  (Quartz = Hill,=20 New Zealand) and VA7LF (South Pender Island, B.C.) will take place next = week on=20 the nights of April 3, 4 and 5 (Mon-Wed). Testing will begin shortly = after=20 sunset at VA7LF (Apr 4-6 0630 UTC approximately) and will continue = until=20 sunrise the following day (1400 UTC). The frequency will be the same as=20 previously used, 137.7890 / 137.7886 kHz  (0.4 Hz shift) at FSK90.=20 Following the schedule with VA7LF, ZM2E will continue with R6L until = sunrise in=20 New Zealand. Reception reports via the reflectors are encouraged. =
The VA7LF site will be internet equipped. If we are able to get = things set=20 up smoothly, we may be on the air for testing on Sunday night. Since we = will be=20 at our maximum erp limit, we hope to have some time available to attempt = some=20 crossband (HF-LF) cw-cw QSO's or QRSS - cw contacts in our early evening = hours=20 (0300-0600 UTC). Any stations interested in attempting a crossband QSO = can=20 contact us via the low frequency reflectors.
 
Steve / VE7SL
 
 
 
Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" = at   http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm
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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6510492919.20060328201021@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TDqdWkZAZeQwSbWYqlJQLAsXEUaA8TOb3ahiFiNX7Wgj0ocrlTp3c9 X-TOI-MSGID: d29091f4-68a4-405d-a139-f182a808dbd0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.045 Subject: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5912 Just at the momemt UA4WPF is calling on 137.760 in QRSS10. "O" copy here. 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199400722896532153 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 28d0ee3f63128cea3df5f57fff45a2d08998c2c4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs42864wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr604906nfk; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si276079nfa.2006.03.31.13.27.51; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPR7k-0004kz-Mp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:25:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPR7k-0004kq-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:25:40 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPSnD-0006fn-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:12:50 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FPR6W-0001g4-00; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:24:24 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VOftGwZFgeuBcTVTD-32z8zP4MyH0mzWUBlXdsWxFjWE9ZDShEK8YJ@[84.133.76.17]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FPR6H-1JaZhQ0; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:24:09 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:24:08 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199400722896532153 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 78169f7e276fc30784b1fe7e084827d6a5c82c19 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs41827wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with SMTP id s5mr347421nfj; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si321930nfe.2006.03.31.12.41.32; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQLp-0004Pf-Ti for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:36:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQLp-0004PW-GA for 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EW6GB loc KO45 FB "O" in ko73dg Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199400722896532153 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3ec65a0e0c3b9b1778d00f559e71475a73b1443f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs41806wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.35.17 with SMTP id n17mr579708nfj; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si315601nfc.2006.03.31.12.41.03; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQLw-0004Ps-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:36:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQLw-0004Pj-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:36:16 +0100 Received: from mx2.mail.ru ([194.67.23.122]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPRWC-0003rY-0N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:50:57 +0100 Received: from [62.33.236.66] (port=1127 helo=mail.ru) by mx2.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FPQLM-0002BJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:35:40 +0400 Message-ID: <442D9296.2040504@mail.ru> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:35:34 +0400 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.172 Subject: LF: EW6GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5923 Hi LF! EW6GB loc KO45 FB "O" in ko73dg Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199402121901794097 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5e2c1838bc81c25f8adfa3a7c1eed1b06df4cad4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs42412wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with SMTP id s5mr358582nfj; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:03:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si132629nfc.2006.03.31.13.03.18; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQjs-0004cc-Po for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:01:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPQjs-0004cT-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:01:00 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPRu9-0003xO-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:15:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 2105 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2006 21:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.124.114 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 21:00:52 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:02:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <442D92C3.3050308@mail.ru> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.553,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: EW6GB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6550E.C0731B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5924 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6550E.C0731B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, LF EW6GB just peaked to "M" copy here at 2050z (See attached screenshot, last bit of the "B" is missing in QSB). QRB is 2346 km, I reckon. 73, Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dmitri Sent: 31 March 2006 21:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: EW6GB Hi LF! 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+0100 Received: (qmail 3069 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2006 09:39:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MJUSonyLaptop) (m.j.underhill@btinternet.com@86.132.249.235 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 09:39:39 -0000 From: "Mike Underhill" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c654a7$07e0ea50$7e00a8c0@MJUSonyLaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: <003701c654a5$0eb4e130$7e00a8c0@MJUSonyLaptop> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: DCF77 request for DX reception reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5927 I should have added that the DCF77 transmitter is on 77.5 kHz and is located 25km SE from Frankfurt (a. Main). > Dear Group > > I was at PTB Braunschweig yesterday and saw the atomic clocks for the > DCF77 > time signal on 77kHz. Juergen Becker on email juergen.becker@ptb.de , an > engineer responsible for time dissemination, said that he would be > particularly interested in reception reports from outside Europe. > Preferably copy to him direct as well to the list. > > Any takers? > > Mike G3LHZ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 30/03/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199006525392333262 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6444aaa8fe711ad13d4040a88c37abe3fda7cc56 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs1390wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.10 with SMTP id s10mr587610qbq; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:15:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si2259450qba.2006.03.27.04.15.27; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNqZv-0006Ma-76 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:12:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNqZu-0006MR-Mw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:12:10 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNri1-0005zv-7d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:24:40 +0100 Received: from GandalfG8@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.330.db24f4 (18403) for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:11:56 -0500 (EST) From: GandalfG8@aol.com Message-ID: <330.db24f4.3159308c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:11:56 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.359,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: HP 3586 Manuals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1143461516" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5929 -------------------------------1143461516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to All, and particularly to any HP3586 users. The link below has a complete set of 3586 manuals for download, including both service manuals. It's the first time I've seen the latter available online so thought this worth sharing. _http://w5jgv.com/amateur_radio.htm_ (http://w5jgv.com/amateur_radio.htm) Be warned though, these are zipped files of individual pages and the three zip files total well over 300MB between them !! regards Nigel G8PZR -------------------------------1143461516 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi to All, and particularly to any HP3586 users.
 
The link below has a complete set of 3586 manuals for download, includi= ng=20 both service manuals.
It's the first time I've seen the latter available online so=20 thought this worth sharing.
 
http://w5jgv.com/amateur_radio.h= tm
 
Be warned though, these are zipped files of individual pages and the th= ree=20 zip files total well over 300MB between them !!
 
regards
 
Nigel
G8PZR
 
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1143461516-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199024096018329177 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ac270ed55b6d54f1cdc2f7945ba4c25ade679cca Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs6196wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.220.6 with SMTP id s6mr1127852qbg; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:54:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si1106861qbq.2006.03.27.08.54.43; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNux2-0007Yi-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:52:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNux2-0007YZ-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:52:20 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNw5F-0007u4-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:04:55 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FNuw0-0006WS-02; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:51:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GhMwC+ZS8e2FF0gRUF-XrzqzXiVIzs5Jys+2JNL4A4I8QDdGT-o1oa@[84.133.75.198]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FNuvm-1D7eOO0; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:51:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:51:02 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1438103419.20060327185102@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GhMwC+ZS8e2FF0gRUF-XrzqzXiVIzs5Jys+2JNL4A4I8QDdGT-o1oa X-TOI-MSGID: 090bfa75-69a5-4ce9-b03e-eed473d5cda1 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.944 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 26/27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5930 Copied NA, XGJ and XKO in T/A window. >From WD2XES dual WOLF transmission only copied the WOLF05 decoded from a soundfile started at 03:00. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199284923936432035 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d9a2580ac0cac40325ec209fa83576fcb8d9d42f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7461wrc; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.239.5 with SMTP id q5mr1371206qbr; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si38463qba.2006.03.30.06.11.42; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxqG-00006O-Of for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:09:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxqG-00006F-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:09:40 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOzVB-0000xc-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:56:20 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter91.comcast.net ([204.127.197.191]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060330140914m1100c3b63e>; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:09:14 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter91.comcast.net; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:09:12 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Hartmut Wolff Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:09:12 +0000 Message-Id: <033020061409.16505.442BE6880002B3160000407922070208530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.799 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 29/30 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5939 Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the capture, I'll bet you can tell that the synthesizer was warming up from a cold start! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Copied WD2XGJ 23:30-05:45. No other signals visible. > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199284923936432035 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d25f45c763e0a587f87b3d8c9e2d949a5e2dbd33 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7241wrc; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.176.17 with SMTP id d17mr1268359qbp; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:00:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si96845qba.2006.03.30.06.00.29; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxeX-0008QQ-Vj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:57:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxeX-0008QH-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:57:33 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOzJT-0000r6-8O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:44:13 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FOxeE-0000nr-02; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:57:14 +0200 Received: from HW1 (r4MXLUZUoe1XF3jeuOqgIMyFMoYf9BQ+hSBDzcJopXb4ns5Fv-Maoj@[84.133.115.29]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FOxdv-2Bk6rI0; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:56:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:56:52 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1038671468.20060330155652@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r4MXLUZUoe1XF3jeuOqgIMyFMoYf9BQ+hSBDzcJopXb4ns5Fv-Maoj X-TOI-MSGID: c833f049-ecdc-45db-8a8f-3f5b8f23dd0e X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.036 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 29/30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5940 Copied WD2XGJ 23:30-05:45. No other signals visible. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 96919debae53610289e9ee7361c319a6fe00e21d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8080wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.155.11 with SMTP id h11mr721507qbo; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:00:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si193550qba.2006.03.29.10.00.02; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOeun-000511-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOeun-00050s-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:05 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOgZO-0002ep-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:43:25 +0100 Received: from 88-106-228-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.254]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 Mar 2006 18:56:36 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CACRWKkSIAiw Received: from 88-106-228-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.254]:1806 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FOeuJ-0000Yt-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:56:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20060329164430.0227a490@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.128,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5946 Hi Rik & Mike, It must be HOT as they have stated "Boyle's Law". I will have to go for water cooled PA & operator then. or Stay as-is because its better the devil you know. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 29 March 2006 15:47 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: HELL CQ - Who? >........................ It would be good to get into HELL >...................... > >Yes, but you may need an efficient cooling system! :-) > >Mike, G3XDV >========== Only if Hell is exothermic ... see http://www.math.psu.edu/tseng/PhyHell.html 73, Rik OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d7363010ed8b8d4473e498933648576e8ab92fd2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs3008wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.160.20 with SMTP id m20mr516294qbo; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:45:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si75857qbq.2006.03.29.06.45.48; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FObqQ-0004JO-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:40:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FObqP-0004JF-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:40:21 +0100 Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOdUy-00014C-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:26:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73461D7983 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22501D791A for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3958733278B; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by smtp03.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD6433278A for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20060329164430.0227a490@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:47:15 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <442AA0DD.19030.1F628F9@localhost> References: <4426B9F0.1030800@freenet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.139,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5947 >........................ It would be good to get into HELL >...................... > >Yes, but you may need an efficient cooling system! :-) > >Mike, G3XDV >========== Only if Hell is exothermic ... see http://www.math.psu.edu/tseng/PhyHell.html 73, Rik OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 936e4465d399b7bc03d462010dc358ff53fb103b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs2344wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.204.9 with SMTP id g9mr500844qbq; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:12:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si47047qba.2006.03.29.06.12.46; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FObHC-0004AD-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:03:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FObHB-0004A4-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:03:57 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48] helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOcvl-0000kh-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:50:14 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060329135950.XPIZ29040.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:59:50 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060329135950.KDCY12840.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:59:50 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:59:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <442AA0DD.19030.1F628F9@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <4426B9F0.1030800@freenet.de> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.993,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5948 On 26 Mar 2006 at 19:24, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > ........................ It would be > good to get into HELL ...................... Yes, but you may need an efficient cooling system! :-) Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 63e12bfdb462b6555cc7d546c3b9b083ab068b91 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs30139wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.3 with SMTP id p3mr1970892qbn; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f18si2790051qba.2006.03.26.13.26.31; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNchz-0002vz-9u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:23:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNchy-0002vq-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:23:34 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNeLZ-0001Zq-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:08:48 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.2da.5507422 (3924) for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:19:20 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2da.5507422.31585f58@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:19:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.325,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2da.5507422.31585f58_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5949 --part1_2da.5507422.31585f58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Wolfgang, nice to read that you can now operate LF from home ;-) For an automatic antenna tuner, I have used a fairly simple, RF-powered circuit, consisting of a phase detector and a little switch-mode motor driver: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/AutoTuner.zip (66kB) I will be away for a week and have thus taken down the rooftop LF antenna, and temporarily connected the "summer antenna", a low-hanging piece of wire in the far corner of the garden. The big disadvantage is that the sensitivity of the grabber captures will much more often be compromised by sweeping carriers from neighbourhood SMPS sources. 73 and have a good time Markus, DF6NM --part1_2da.5507422.31585f58_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wolfgang,

nice to read that you can now operate LF from home ;-) For an automatic ante= nna tuner, I have used a fairly simple, RF-powered circuit, consisting of a=20= phase detector and a little switch-mode motor driver: http://members.aol.com/df6nm/AutoTuner.zip<= /A> (66kB)

I will be away for a week and have thus taken down the rooftop LF antenna, a= nd temporarily connected the "summer antenna", a low-hanging piece of wire i= n the far corner of the garden. The big disadvantage is that the sensitivity= of the grabber captures will much more often be compromised by sweeping car= riers from neighbourhood SMPS sources.

73 and have a good time
Markus, DF6NM
 --part1_2da.5507422.31585f58_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 52dd0ded6c261f815613af4131d78207b5cb6302 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs28650wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.15.10 with SMTP id s10mr1367624nfi; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1si118634nfb.2006.03.26.11.49.38; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNbDE-0002VB-27 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:47:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNbDD-0002V2-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:47:43 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNcL1-0001VR-G0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:59:52 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FNbDB-0002k0-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:47:41 +0200 Received: from p5486b99a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.185.154] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FNbDB-0006k2-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:47:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4426F008.4010407@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:48:24 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.103 Subject: Re: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5950 Hi Gary, Well you may try a Hell variant which doesn't require a linear TX: "Sequential" multitone Hell. The tone has always the same amplitude, and it simply hops between the frequencies to form the dots of a character. It doesn't look as good as Markus' Chirped Hell, but it works. The mode is implemented in SL, and in other dedicated Hell programs. I still have the remotely controlled station running (home again, in my easy chair..) but I don't dare to transmit now because the only "monitor" I have is a receiver. I cannot see how good (or bad) the SWR is, and I don't have a webcam to check for smoke ;-) G3WCB is very nice copy (at DK4U) at this very moment, but not decipherable with my indoor antenna (at DL4YHF). Will let the system running for John's WOLF tonight, hoping the WLAN-audio link from DK4U to my home QTH doesn't brake down. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . Gary - G4WGT schrieb: >Hi Wolf, > >Did not get chance for further activity on 136 due to family matters but >very interested to read about your remote operating. >It would be good to get into HELL but I don't believe the G0MRF Tx (class D) >is suitable. I will keep looking & report any activity I see. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > >-----Original Message----- > >Yes it was me, operating REMOTELY > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b8112b8738cb889fcc8cf3ed96678139b61ce6fb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs27666wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.216.10 with SMTP id o10mr1906055ugg; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si729961ugc.2006.03.26.10.27.19; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNZvg-0002C0-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:25:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNZvg-0002Br-59 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:25:32 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNb3S-0001IQ-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:37:39 +0100 Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.206.183]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2006 19:24:22 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAKxoJkSHfyw Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.206.183]:2464 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FNZuX-0001X1-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:24:21 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:24:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4426B9F0.1030800@freenet.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.220,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: RE: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5951 Hi Wolf, Did not get chance for further activity on 136 due to family matters but very interested to read about your remote operating. It would be good to get into HELL but I don't believe the G0MRF Tx (class D) is suitable. I will keep looking & report any activity I see. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- Yes it was me, operating REMOTELY From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f9d9eaf094da98202a62c6b3d5c17cb7d107e1e9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs25945wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.12 with SMTP id p12mr1873349qbn; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:59:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si3672247qba.2006.03.26.07.59.23; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNXbc-0001dR-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:56:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNXbb-0001dI-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:56:39 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNYjK-0000wD-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:08:43 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FNXbX-0003i8-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:56:35 +0200 Received: from p54869098.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.144.152] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FNXbX-0001dn-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:56:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4426B9F0.1030800@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:57:36 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.133 Subject: Re: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5952 Hi Gary, Yes it was me, operating REMOTELY (! - more on that below) from DK4U . Will call again now (back at DK4U), maybe we can have a 2-way contact. Some background info: I am back at the club station now, and just typing this email on my home-PC but remotely controlled from the clubstation (via wireless link). There is a freeware called UltraVNC which does an excellent job, and its blazingly fast. The audio stream are sent through Spectrum Lab in (almost) real-time using a simple UDP control. RX/TX switch and all that via software. One of the things I haven't manage to control remotely is the antenna tuner - would need a webcam and a servo for that, but too much for this old 266-MHz-Pentium II. So the experiment a few hours ago was a bit hazardous but fun; more seriously I want to use this remote-control system for overnight reception. Maybe the last chance to catch some TA signals, since the temperatures made a large step up (almost 10�C higher than yesterday). Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF / DK4U / Gary - G4WGT schrieb: >Hi LF, > >Just switched my display back ti SpecLab just in time to see a CQ in HELL go >off the screen, saw CQ DK???? but neede a little more brightness to read it. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198923815349977910 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a9a0760085151e557857cffe3f72471d980742aa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs24798wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.24.20 with SMTP id 20mr202604qbx; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:20:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si3440601qbe.2006.03.26.06.20.48; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNW5F-0000zK-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:19:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNW5F-0000zB-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:19:09 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNXij-00082Q-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:04:16 +0100 Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.206.183]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2006 15:18:47 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAGowJkSHfyw Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.206.183]:4588 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FNW16-000NI6-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:14:52 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:19:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.161,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5953 Hi LF, Just switched my display back ti SpecLab just in time to see a CQ in HELL go off the screen, saw CQ DK???? but neede a little more brightness to read it. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198983657266340478 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 46951083e50bf50e25886708f37ac2631e23df79 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs37296wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.219.18 with SMTP id r18mr2236329ugg; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:11:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si386813uge.2006.03.26.22.11.59; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNktV-0004ue-8T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:08:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNktU-0004uV-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:08:00 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNm1V-00048a-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:20:22 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 099261C0044E for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:07:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-97.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-97.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.97]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 517831C00448 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:07:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060327060753333.517831C00448@mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:06:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1283354285.20060326120015@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <1283354285.20060326120015@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.120 Subject: LF: TA = 0 last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5954 Sorry... But 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199199371927818883 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f28264ef7b22f48d15a3c1a9bb5526c2fb04e4a4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5362wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.159.12 with SMTP id l12mr599756qbo; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:06:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si127930qba.2006.03.29.08.06.42; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOd9p-0004jd-9D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:04:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOd9o-0004jU-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:04:28 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOeoS-0001jt-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:50:47 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2TG46wl026326 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:34:06 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k2TG46vZ017808 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:34:06 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k2TG46vb017248; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:34:06 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:34:05 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <123390387.20060329170720@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <123390387.20060329170720@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 28/29 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5959 Dear Group, Thanks to Mother Nature, the aerial is iced and down again, so VO1NA will be QRT for another while. The good news is that the authorisation to TX on 2200m has been extended for another year. XKO was at quite audible levels last night and could be clearly seen on Spectrum Lab and Argo (QRSS and NDB modes). A 2 metre 15 turn loop about 60m from the shack was used to receive the sigs. It was found that an isolation transformer was needed between the line output of the RX and the computer and that about 3 dB of attenuation (with a pot) was necessary to avoid the red-line in Argo. If the xfmr was not in place, a strong 60Hz component and harmonics appeared on the Spectrum Lab display which redced the S/N considerably. I have built a PAORTD miniwhip and could receive DCF39 (in much BUZZZZZ) last night with the antenna in the shack. I've taken the miniwhip mobile and it works very well except within a km or two of MF broadcast stations where intermodulation is a problem. Congrats to Roelof on a very good design. I expect it will work much better if it is placed away from the shack and suspended from a Magnolia tree. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199199371927818883 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2fae11e3227fcbc9b3ce13a6ad5c9456f83a2b2c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs4040wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.234.20 with SMTP id l20mr47413qbr; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:20:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si99834qbe.2006.03.29.07.20.39; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOcPN-0004SU-0u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:16:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOcPM-0004SL-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:16:28 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOdYW-0004S2-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:02 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FOcPI-0001Bd-05; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:16:24 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VylwqEZVYe8OkRvZifZItnZgPhQPWsI59U9YaYgwWklY5aJLrwMUw4@[84.133.111.248]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FOcGl-0sFaEa0; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:07:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:07:20 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <123390387.20060329170720@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VylwqEZVYe8OkRvZifZItnZgPhQPWsI59U9YaYgwWklY5aJLrwMUw4 X-TOI-MSGID: 8ef10b3c-f336-4b9b-aa61-3e912c868257 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.937 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5960 Low static and good and stable signal levels. Copied XGJ and XKO. Captures 22:30-06:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198953009821672946 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a727f5f103f3908cb86edc3a20bc1ac8c4eb43d0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs30486wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.222.15 with SMTP id u15mr2040950ugg; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si1063355ugf.2006.03.26.14.04.51; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNdJp-00038I-9I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:02:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNdJo-000389-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:02:40 +0100 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.227]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNeRe-0001oV-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:14:52 +0100 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so1264308wra for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:01:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XFCG6rcAvuVC2CvRDNz7il3MFlgIDiRvXSMECGpvmzghZgdBVzUYHJM3dT8qXcPFzth/W8UYQ4VLuK51oc2rmWleiUfMaPFY3CGed6AUVxSySkwyYpoOn1HTuvEk+QNOCL2MxSCYwdpL3NIj+zHyLUsoePUlCeKIzI1VAnmLgt8= Received: by 10.54.86.13 with SMTP id j13mr2386898wrb; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.127.8 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:01:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8bf118410603261401r7683bec2m@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:01:34 +0100 From: "Dave Pick" To: lowfer@lwca.org, "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.431,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: Grabber and web-site back on-line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5964 Dear all The LF news site and grabber at http://wireless.org.uk/ (with or without "www") is back on line. Sorry about the delay. Please let me know if anything on the site doesn't work. Also any e-mails to that domain in the last week will have been lost. 73. Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199022703644122342 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2d2ea303347a8cf72d060849874ecd4e08f52942 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5829wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.43.8 with SMTP id v8mr5058qbj; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e11si2721445qbc.2006.03.27.08.32.35; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNuYf-0007Lz-W3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:27:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNuYf-0007Lq-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:27:09 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNvgs-0007mc-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:39:44 +0100 Received: from Dl6nl@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.35b.b46c87 (39332); Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:26:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dl6nl@aol.com Message-ID: <35b.b46c87.31596c4f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:26:55 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: hans.summers@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 120 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: OFF TOPIC "QRSS on 10 140KHz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5970 Hi All ! My name is Peter DL6NL in JN58sg (Munich). We are a small group with active members in W3, VK6 and ZL4 plus many EUs. We are running worldwide tests on 10 140,000 - 10 140,100 KHz. Just 100Hz !! Power from 1mW to 1W. We are looking for new members. To see what we are doing look here: http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/qrssjb/index.htm If you are interested please send me a short mail: dl6nl@aol.com 73s peter dl6nl From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198271829041819685 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cc06fb06ce03c87f8d6d3b49a5d9040ce31cdedc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs19127wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.19.8 with SMTP id w8mr3359663ugi; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:37:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si1675175ugf.2006.03.19.01.37.47; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKuHN-0004pH-Fk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:32:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKuHH-0004p8-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:32:48 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKvLR-00068Y-7l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:41:12 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C024E4F3A0 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:32:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001701c64b38$125993b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:32:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.237,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64B40.72033200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5976 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64B40.72033200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! Good Copy of VO1NA WD2XGJ , XNS (only traces ) the captures are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64B40.72033200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
Good Copy of  VO1NA
WD2XGJ , XNS (only=20 traces )
the=20 captures are on :
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64B40.72033200-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198050118712529361 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 53b7f21a15839dd6c3954712f31c80c097fe526f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs18787wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.3 with SMTP id s3mr136528qbq; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si1634872qbq.2006.03.16.14.53.46; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK1Iv-0006d4-OG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK1Iv-0006cv-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2sn-0001wd-G3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:32:12 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (cpc1-leat1-6-0-cust60.hers.cable.ntl.com [81.96.11.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2GMn5b6032591 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:49:07 GMT Message-ID: <004001c6494b$a8ccb280$0400a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:47:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Carrier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6494B.A574ADE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5977 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6494B.A574ADE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies if it's annoying anyone but the silent carrier on 136.52 is me = testing with Peter G3PLX. Trying to get some power level measurements. It's going off now (2250) = anyway. Walter G3JKV. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6494B.A574ADE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Apologies if it's annoying anyone but = the silent=20 carrier on 136.52 is me testing with Peter G3PLX.
Trying to get some power level = measurements. It's=20 going off now (2250) anyway.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6494B.A574ADE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198237036359000497 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8c7dafdd977933d7db80f240b65a8c75d6900af6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs22504wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.2 with SMTP id c2mr1232802ugi; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si946564ugf.2006.03.19.08.17.59; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0Zh-0005mW-2r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:16:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0Zg-0005mN-CR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:16:12 +0000 Received: from [64.97.136.176] (helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL2AY-0008Oc-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:58:38 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.204.240) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 440E1EF30016E1C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c64b70$12d8b450$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> <002101c64adb$e5924720$6211f4cc@p1i5f0> <007401c64aeb$4b30d7e0$0600000a@quaycustomer> <001f01c64b4d$f258aae0$023c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:12:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.290,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C64B6F.FDE69D00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5979 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C64B6F.FDE69D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Jim you are confusing the discussion by introducing a noisy local enverionment, where no doubt its a loop or nothing to null out the noise. My argument made it clear that I was considering the merits of loops v verticals especially the smaller ones in a good quiet environment, the only way to compare both as regards efficiency and signal capture. de Mal/G3KEV The argument about loops and verticals in noisy locations has been discussed many times before. Dear LF Group, At M0BMU, the original motivation for using seperate RX antennas was the increasing 50Hz-related noise level on the TX vertical. This seems to be due to pick-up from the house mains wiring, but moving the vertical further from the house would result in reduced possible length, and it is short enough already! Remote vertical antennas worked fine as far as eliminating mains noise was concerned, but did nothing to reduce distant sources of QRM such as Loran. Here I have to use quite selective antennas (the broadband active-whip type of antenna is not really workable here due to the 20V/m MF signal levels from Brookmans Park). For some time I used single loops oriented to null out the Lessay Loran signal, and I estimated this reduced the noise floor for most European signals by 6dB or so, which made quite a few more stations audible. I found that much experimentation was needed to find suitable positions for the loops where they would null out Loran, but not pick up 50Hz noise at the same time - loops seem to be more sensitive to this type of QRM. Then the Rugby Loran started up, and the band noise level in aural reception bandwidths (e.g. 300Hz) increased by 15dB, wiping out many of the weaker signals at this QTH. I countered this using both loop and vertical antennas phased together to provide two adjustable nulls aimed at Rugby and Lessay. This brought the situation for aural reception of European sigs to about the same place as it was before - but most signals coming from the west are attenuated by the overall directional properties of the system. So, for aural signal reception at this location in SE England, currently neither loops nor vertical antennas by themselves work very well, allthough quite good results are achieved by using a phasing system with both types of antenna to null out the Loran. For narrow-band QRSS, etc. signals, the situation is different, since provided the received signal frequency does not coincide with a Loran line, Loran does not matter too much. There does not seem to be much to choose between the loop and the vertical most of the time, however under quiet band conditions with little QRN I have found that if I use the phased loop and vertical antennas, and reverse the relative phase of the antennas to favour signals from the west (i.e. for transatlantic reception), the band noise is reduced by several dB on the spectrogram compared to either antenna by itself - I suspect this may be due to a reduction in "Luxembourg effect" noise originating from Europe to the east. So here I find it neccessary to use both types of antenna simultaneously, if I want to achieve good results. This is mostly to overcome the effects of man-made QRM and to enable aural reception of signals, which are perhaps the main differences between my situation and the others who have commented. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C64B6F.FDE69D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 James Moritz
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 = 12:09=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V = VERTICALS
 
 
 
 
Jim you are confusing = the=20 discussion by introducing a noisy local enverionment, where no doubt = its a=20 loop or nothing to null out the noise.
My argument made it = clear that I=20 was considering the merits of loops v verticals especially the smaller = ones in=20 a good quiet environment, the only way to compare both as regards = efficiency=20 and signal capture.
de = Mal/G3KEV
 
The argument about = loops and=20 verticals in noisy locations has been discussed many times=20 before.
 

Dear LF Group,
 
At M0BMU, the original motivation for = using=20 seperate RX antennas was the increasing 50Hz-related noise level = on the=20 TX vertical. This seems to be due to pick-up from the house mains = wiring, but=20 moving the vertical further from the house would result in reduced = possible=20 length, and it is short enough already!
 
Remote vertical antennas = worked fine as far=20 as eliminating mains noise was concerned, but did nothing to = reduce=20 distant sources of QRM such as Loran. Here I have to use quite = selective=20 antennas (the broadband active-whip type of antenna is not really = workable=20 here due to the 20V/m MF signal levels from Brookmans Park). For some = time I=20 used single loops oriented to null out the Lessay Loran = signal, and I=20 estimated this reduced the noise floor for most European signals by = 6dB or so,=20 which made quite a few more stations audible. I found that much=20 experimentation was needed to find suitable positions for the loops = where they=20 would null out Loran, but not pick up 50Hz noise at the same time - = loops seem=20 to be more sensitive to this type of QRM.
 
Then the Rugby Loran started up, and = the band=20 noise level in aural reception bandwidths (e.g. 300Hz) increased by = 15dB,=20 wiping out many of the weaker signals at this QTH. I countered = this=20 using both loop and vertical antennas phased together to provide = two=20 adjustable nulls aimed at Rugby and Lessay. This brought the situation = for=20 aural reception of European sigs to about the same place as it was = before -=20 but most signals coming from the west are attenuated by the overall=20 directional properties of the system.
 
So, for aural=20 signal reception at this location in SE England, currently = neither  loops=20 nor vertical antennas by themselves work very well, allthough quite = good=20 results are achieved by using a phasing system with both types of = antenna to=20 null out the Loran.
 
For narrow-band QRSS, etc. signals, = the situation=20 is different, since provided the received signal frequency does not = coincide=20 with a Loran line, Loran does not matter too much. There does not seem = to be=20 much to choose between the loop and the vertical most of the time, = however=20 under quiet band conditions with little QRN I have found that if I use = the=20 phased loop and vertical antennas, and reverse the relative phase of = the=20 antennas to favour signals from the west (i.e. for transatlantic = reception),=20 the band noise is reduced by several dB on the spectrogram compared to = either=20 antenna by itself - I suspect this may be due to a reduction in=20 "Luxembourg effect" noise originating from Europe to the = east.
 
So here I find it neccessary to = use both=20 types of antenna simultaneously, if I want to achieve good results. = This is=20 mostly to overcome the effects of man-made QRM and to enable aural = reception=20 of signals, which are perhaps the main differences between my = situation and=20 the others who have commented.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de = M0BMU
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C64B6F.FDE69D00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198237036359000497 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c2798448af9f260848d57d40a0c8053518cac56 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs14955wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.242.15 with SMTP id p15mr891156ugh; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:24:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a1si3160259ugf.2006.03.18.16.24.46; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKlgf-0002aT-Px for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:22:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKlgf-0002aK-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:22:25 +0000 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKnHE-0005zv-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:04:36 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.192]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20060319002157.CURY19792.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:21:57 +1200 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.65.176]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060319002156.VEMH1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:21:56 +1200 Message-ID: <007401c64aeb$4b30d7e0$0600000a@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: References: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> <002101c64adb$e5924720$6211f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:23:04 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.452,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C64B4F.DF5188C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5980 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C64B4F.DF5188C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, At Quartz Hill we have similar observations to Steve, in that we have = not noticed a fade using the tx antenna for rx, but we have noticed = fades on loop antennas. Temporary one turn receiving loops were = supported by ropes to poles in suitable directions for receiving the DX = station, and the area was large enough that QRN swamped the receiver = noise. The loops were in the vertical plane and fed at a bottom coner = closest to the operating room. There is no QRM at the rural Quartz Hill = site so the large tx antenna can deliver a good result (that is = definitely not the case in my suburban QTH, neighbourhood QRM is quite a = challenge, my top loaded vertical for tx is hopeless on rx). But = getting back to the theme of rx loops versus verticals, I can say there = have been unexplained loss of reception from a loop when the vertical = delivers a satisfactory result. At Quartz Hill (ZM2E) we no longer use = a loop for LF rx, instead we have a splitter and feed all receivers from = the tx antenna (a changeover switch prevents use from having a very = short distance contact). 73, Bob ZL2CA=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve McDonald=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS >Your comments on the smaller verts/loops welcome. Mal - during our last TransPacific tests with ZL, we had the = opportunity to run two rx's on the ZL frequency. One was our mainstay = and always reliable performer, the large 10' air-core tuned passive loop = while the other was our large vertical tx antenna. The ZL signal was = often 'O' copy on the vertical while the loop showed nothing at all. I = think there was only one short instance when the loop produced a signal = that the vertical did not hear. The loop had previously earned our = respect as an excellent rx antenna because we had always used it in our = own noisier environments but beside the ocean on Pender Island, there = was no noise at all, and the loop quickly lost it's main advantage. Both = Scott and I have since been using our tx verticals on rx at our home = stations more often, when the noise level permits and the verticals are = clearly better, when noise is not a factor. BTW, our next TransPacific ZM2E-VA7LF attempt is fast = approaching...April 3-5th our time. 73 Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C64B4F.DF5188C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
At Quartz Hill we have similar = observations to=20 Steve, in that we have not noticed a fade using the tx antenna for rx, = but we=20 have noticed fades on loop antennas.  Temporary one turn receiving = loops=20 were supported by ropes to poles in suitable directions for receiving = the DX=20 station, and the area was large enough that QRN swamped the receiver=20 noise.  The loops were in the vertical plane and fed at a = bottom coner=20 closest to the operating room.  There is no QRM at the rural Quartz = Hill=20 site so the large tx antenna can deliver a good result (that = is=20 definitely not the case in my suburban QTH, neighbourhood QRM is = quite a=20 challenge, my top loaded vertical for tx is hopeless on rx).  But = getting=20 back to the theme of rx loops versus verticals, I can say there have = been=20 unexplained loss of reception from a loop when the vertical delivers a=20 satisfactory result.  At Quartz Hill (ZM2E) we no longer use a loop = for LF=20 rx, instead we have a splitter and feed all receivers from the tx = antenna (a=20 changeover switch prevents use from having a very short distance=20 contact).
 
73, Bob ZL2CA 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve=20 McDonald
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 = 10:32=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V = VERTICALS

>Your = comments on the=20 smaller verts/loops welcome.
 
Mal - during our last TransPacific = tests with ZL,=20 we had the opportunity to run two rx's on the ZL frequency. One was = our=20 mainstay and always reliable performer, the large 10' air-core tuned = passive=20 loop while the other was our large vertical tx antenna. The ZL signal = was=20 often 'O' copy on the vertical while the loop showed nothing at all. I = think=20 there was only one short instance when the loop produced a signal that = the=20 vertical did not hear. The loop had previously earned our respect as = an=20 excellent rx antenna because we had always used it in our own noisier=20 environments but beside the ocean on Pender Island, there = was no=20 noise at all, and the loop quickly lost it's main advantage. Both = Scott and I=20 have since been using our tx verticals on rx at our home stations more = often,=20 when the noise level permits and the verticals are clearly better, = when noise=20 is not a factor.
 
BTW, our next = TransPacific ZM2E-VA7LF=20 attempt is fast approaching...April 3-5th our time.
 
73
Steve / VE7SL
 
Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" = at   http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C64B4F.DF5188C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198304336055538294 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 39bf994260b015e28406fc93e8c7ed3cbe787561 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs24206wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.75.18 with SMTP id c18mr69519qbl; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:43:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si4188048qbe.2006.03.19.10.43.00; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL2qh-0006TB-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:41:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL2qg-0006T2-QY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:41:54 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL3v3-0000Ir-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:50:30 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060319184105m13005jbmbe>; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:41:10 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:41:05 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Walter Blanchard" Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:41:05 +0000 Message-Id: <031920061841.4402.441DA5C1000837F90000113222064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.961,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: Low power Tx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4402_1142793665_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=BANG_MONEY,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5981 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4402_1142793665_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Walter, That's excellent news. Is the P.A. linear or a switching design? Do you know where I might get one? Thanks & Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Walter Blanchard" > I found a Decca Aerial Testing Signal Generator Type 1615 at a junk sale a few > months ago. It's basically a xtal osc/driver/PA transmitter for LF (Decca freqs > 70-127 kHz). Very easily converted for 136 because the o/p transformer is > wide-band enough to cover 136 and needs no modifications. Plug about 100 mW 136 > kHz RF into a xtal socket and it will give out 20-25w RF into 72 ohms (PA is > 2x807's). My old Marconi 2019 SG was quite adequate as signal source. Quite a > lot were made so there may be a few more appearing round the junk sales and if > you see one it's well worth �5 of anyone's money! > > Walter G3JKV. > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4402_1142793665_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Subject: LF: Low power Tx Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:12:54 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4402_1142793665_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4402_1142793665_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I found a Decca Aerial Testing Signal = Generator=20 Type 1615 at a junk sale a few months ago. It's basically = a xtal=20 osc/driver/PA transmitter for LF (Decca freqs 70-127 kHz). Very = easily=20 converted for 136 because the o/p transformer is wide-band enough to = cover 136=20 and needs no modifications. Plug about 100 mW 136 kHz RF into = a xtal=20 socket and it will give out 20-25w RF into 72 ohms (PA is = 2x807's). My old Marconi 2019 SG was quite adequate as signal source. = Quite a=20 lot were made so there may be a few more appearing round the junk sales = and=20 if you see one it's well worth = =A35 of=20 anyone's money!
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
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I found a Decca Aerial Testing Signal = Generator=20 Type 1615 at a junk sale a few months ago. It's basically = a xtal=20 osc/driver/PA transmitter for LF (Decca freqs 70-127 kHz). Very = easily=20 converted for 136 because the o/p transformer is wide-band enough to = cover 136=20 and needs no modifications. Plug about 100 mW 136 kHz RF into = a xtal=20 socket and it will give out 20-25w RF into 72 ohms (PA is = 2x807's). My old Marconi 2019 SG was quite adequate as signal source. = Quite a=20 lot were made so there may be a few more appearing round the junk sales = and=20 if you see one it's well worth = =A35 of=20 anyone's money!
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C64B80.67D77B70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198230260675793125 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7ee23ed56c14ce37783e11b3886e302db817c78e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs20951wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.96.20 with SMTP id t20mr73678qbb; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:14:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si306219qbe.2006.03.19.05.14.11; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKxht-0005L0-90 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:12:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKxhs-0005Kr-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:12:28 +0000 Received: from mailfe07.swip.net ([212.247.154.193] helo=swip.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKym8-00070S-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:20:57 +0000 X-T2-Posting-ID: mrhzCCiFQtI0F1uw2Mu10A== X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Received: from [83.177.0.163] (HELO [192.168.0.1]) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 159390162 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:12:21 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mj59299@janus.swip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001f01c64b4d$f258aae0$023c7ad5@w4o8m9> References: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> <002101c64adb$e5924720$6211f4cc@p1i5f0> <007401c64aeb$4b30d7e0$0600000a@quaycustomer> <001f01c64b4d$f258aae0$023c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:16:46 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: c-h walde X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5983 hi jim, tnx for reading ur interesting talk on antennas. i suppose, that we will meet in london in july. i will give a historical on the SAQ world heritage. 73 de carl -- Carl-Henrik Walde SM5BF Tornv=E4gen 7, SE-183 52 T=E4by, Sweden tel +46 8 7566160, fax +46 8 7565319 GSM +46 70 5916061, NMT (450) +46 10 2736061 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198230260675793125 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 26091bc9d83c375a4081270ffee05f5175325339 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs20463wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.75.19 with SMTP id c19mr464710qbl; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:13:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si3423735qbd.2006.03.19.04.13.02; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKwkN-0005BV-Uy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:10:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKwkN-0005BM-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:10:59 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKyLB-0006ea-Im for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:53:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 92259 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2006 12:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.60.2?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.60.2 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2006 12:10:36 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.2.5/284]); Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:09:17 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c64b4d$f258aae0$023c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> <002101c64adb$e5924720$6211f4cc@p1i5f0> <007401c64aeb$4b30d7e0$0600000a@quaycustomer> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:09:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.542,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64B4D.F2265040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5984 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64B4D.F2265040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, At M0BMU, the original motivation for using seperate RX antennas was the = increasing 50Hz-related noise level on the TX vertical. This seems to be = due to pick-up from the house mains wiring, but moving the vertical = further from the house would result in reduced possible length, and it = is short enough already! Remote vertical antennas worked fine as far as eliminating mains noise = was concerned, but did nothing to reduce distant sources of QRM such as = Loran. Here I have to use quite selective antennas (the broadband = active-whip type of antenna is not really workable here due to the 20V/m = MF signal levels from Brookmans Park). For some time I used single loops = oriented to null out the Lessay Loran signal, and I estimated this = reduced the noise floor for most European signals by 6dB or so, which = made quite a few more stations audible. I found that much = experimentation was needed to find suitable positions for the loops = where they would null out Loran, but not pick up 50Hz noise at the same = time - loops seem to be more sensitive to this type of QRM. Then the Rugby Loran started up, and the band noise level in aural = reception bandwidths (e.g. 300Hz) increased by 15dB, wiping out many of = the weaker signals at this QTH. I countered this using both loop and = vertical antennas phased together to provide two adjustable nulls aimed = at Rugby and Lessay. This brought the situation for aural reception of = European sigs to about the same place as it was before - but most = signals coming from the west are attenuated by the overall directional = properties of the system. So, for aural signal reception at this location in SE England, currently = neither loops nor vertical antennas by themselves work very well, = allthough quite good results are achieved by using a phasing system with = both types of antenna to null out the Loran.=20 For narrow-band QRSS, etc. signals, the situation is different, since = provided the received signal frequency does not coincide with a Loran = line, Loran does not matter too much. There does not seem to be much to = choose between the loop and the vertical most of the time, however under = quiet band conditions with little QRN I have found that if I use the = phased loop and vertical antennas, and reverse the relative phase of the = antennas to favour signals from the west (i.e. for transatlantic = reception), the band noise is reduced by several dB on the spectrogram = compared to either antenna by itself - I suspect this may be due to a = reduction in "Luxembourg effect" noise originating from Europe to the = east. So here I find it neccessary to use both types of antenna = simultaneously, if I want to achieve good results. This is mostly to = overcome the effects of man-made QRM and to enable aural reception of = signals, which are perhaps the main differences between my situation and = the others who have commented.=20 Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64B4D.F2265040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear LF Group,
 
At M0BMU, the original motivation for = using=20 seperate RX antennas was the increasing 50Hz-related noise level on = the TX=20 vertical. This seems to be due to pick-up from the house mains wiring, = but=20 moving the vertical further from the house would result in reduced = possible=20 length, and it is short enough already!
 
Remote vertical antennas = worked fine as far as=20 eliminating mains noise was concerned, but did nothing to reduce = distant=20 sources of QRM such as Loran. Here I have to use quite selective = antennas (the=20 broadband active-whip type of antenna is not really workable here due to = the=20 20V/m MF signal levels from Brookmans Park). For some time I used single = loops=20 oriented to null out the Lessay Loran signal, and I estimated this = reduced=20 the noise floor for most European signals by 6dB or so, which made quite = a few=20 more stations audible. I found that much experimentation was needed to = find=20 suitable positions for the loops where they would null out Loran, but = not pick=20 up 50Hz noise at the same time - loops seem to be more sensitive to this = type of=20 QRM.
 
Then the Rugby Loran started up, and = the band noise=20 level in aural reception bandwidths (e.g. 300Hz) increased by 15dB, = wiping=20 out many of the weaker signals at this QTH. I countered this=20 using both loop and vertical antennas phased together to provide = two=20 adjustable nulls aimed at Rugby and Lessay. This brought the situation = for aural=20 reception of European sigs to about the same place as it was before - = but most=20 signals coming from the west are attenuated by the overall directional=20 properties of the system.
 
So, for aural=20 signal reception at this location in SE England, currently neither  = loops=20 nor vertical antennas by themselves work very well, allthough quite good = results=20 are achieved by using a phasing system with both types of antenna to = null out=20 the Loran.
 
For narrow-band QRSS, etc. signals, the = situation=20 is different, since provided the received signal frequency does not = coincide=20 with a Loran line, Loran does not matter too much. There does not seem = to be=20 much to choose between the loop and the vertical most of the time, = however under=20 quiet band conditions with little QRN I have found that if I use the = phased loop=20 and vertical antennas, and reverse the relative phase of the antennas to = favour=20 signals from the west (i.e. for transatlantic reception), the band noise = is=20 reduced by several dB on the spectrogram compared to either = antenna by=20 itself - I suspect this may be due to a reduction in "Luxembourg effect" = noise=20 originating from Europe to the east.
 
So here I find it neccessary to = use both types=20 of antenna simultaneously, if I want to achieve good results. This is = mostly to=20 overcome the effects of man-made QRM and to enable aural reception of = signals,=20 which are perhaps the main differences between my situation and the = others who=20 have commented.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64B4D.F2265040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198230260675793125 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3f5c0b55df31fc032b7eb9db1a31a80f2ad51a5f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs14020wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.100.4 with SMTP id c4mr950933qbm; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:37:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si1862464qba.2006.03.18.14.37.03; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKk11-0002KW-BS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:35:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKk10-0002KN-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:35:18 +0000 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKl4w-0004gz-Js for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:43:29 +0000 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi93.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.98]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E936AB98D8 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:35:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002101c64adb$e5924720$6211f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:32:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.222,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C64A98.D6D7F740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5985 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C64A98.D6D7F740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Your comments on the smaller verts/loops welcome. Mal - during our last TransPacific tests with ZL, we had the opportunity = to run two rx's on the ZL frequency. One was our mainstay and always = reliable performer, the large 10' air-core tuned passive loop while the = other was our large vertical tx antenna. The ZL signal was often 'O' = copy on the vertical while the loop showed nothing at all. I think there = was only one short instance when the loop produced a signal that the = vertical did not hear. The loop had previously earned our respect as an = excellent rx antenna because we had always used it in our own noisier = environments but beside the ocean on Pender Island, there was no noise = at all, and the loop quickly lost it's main advantage. Both Scott and I = have since been using our tx verticals on rx at our home stations more = often, when the noise level permits and the verticals are clearly = better, when noise is not a factor. BTW, our next TransPacific ZM2E-VA7LF attempt is fast = approaching...April 3-5th our time. 73 Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C64A98.D6D7F740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>Your comments = on the=20 smaller verts/loops welcome.
 
Mal - during our last TransPacific = tests with ZL,=20 we had the opportunity to run two rx's on the ZL frequency. One was our = mainstay=20 and always reliable performer, the large 10' air-core tuned passive loop = while=20 the other was our large vertical tx antenna. The ZL signal was often 'O' = copy on=20 the vertical while the loop showed nothing at all. I think there was = only one=20 short instance when the loop produced a signal that the vertical did not = hear.=20 The loop had previously earned our respect as an excellent rx antenna = because we=20 had always used it in our own noisier environments but beside the=20 ocean on Pender Island, there was no noise at all, and the loop = quickly=20 lost it's main advantage. Both Scott and I have since been using our tx=20 verticals on rx at our home stations more often, when the noise level = permits=20 and the verticals are clearly better, when noise is not a = factor.
 
BTW, our next = TransPacific ZM2E-VA7LF attempt=20 is fast approaching...April 3-5th our time.
 
73
Steve / VE7SL
 
Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" = at   http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm
 
 
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Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198307932744021663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d8e1d82dc1274f4258985fcfeb266156af6e5af9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs44wrc; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.15.15 with SMTP id s15mr388395qbi; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:11:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si4319298qbe.2006.03.19.11.11.37; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL3IN-0006gm-Tv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL3IN-0006gc-Ho for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:31 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL4Ml-0000QJ-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FL3IL-0006dT-02; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:10:29 +0100 Received: from HW1 (VaA8HkZrge-1TyWeZVUzHhAQVUVqTTlxpSoKdJzqmHyP8Q4CAPATQ0@[84.133.79.231]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FL3IA-22Cthw0; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:10:18 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:10:17 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1710630619.20060319201017@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VaA8HkZrge-1TyWeZVUzHhAQVUVqTTlxpSoKdJzqmHyP8Q4CAPATQ0 X-TOI-MSGID: 343ebd1d-69b2-413c-bd45-e12c27cb77c3 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.022 Subject: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5989 Just at the moment UA4WPF is calling on 137.760 kHz in QRSS3. Nice signal here. Two earlier CQs noted here, but weaker. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198832706215287410 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 45b95c0c9cad08321f4592a8e475ed1263980bb8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8972wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr1492119qbf; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:12:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14si1534384qbq.2006.03.25.06.12.40; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9TJ-0004Sb-5f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:10:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9TI-0004SS-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:10:28 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNB6P-0000h4-Hh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:55:12 +0000 Received: from server (dial-145.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.145]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 435EB5D94; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:10:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001e01c65016$507fe760$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:12:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.221,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Antenna question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C65016.2E728EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5995 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C65016.2E728EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Lowfers & LFers, My greatest enjoyment of ham radio is building and tinkering with = antennas, and in keeping with that I'm planning on erecting a "T" or Marconi = antenna which I can use on both the 137 kHz. and the 160-190 kHz. bands. The plan is to have a Y shaped top-load suspended between my 3 towers at around 15 meters (50 ft.) in height. Since the towers are grounded, = I'll need to keep the ends of the top load wires a certain distance from = them. In searching the web I've found no info on what that distance should be = to avoid problems. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C65016.2E728EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Lowfers & LFers,
 
My greatest enjoyment of ham radio is = building and=20 tinkering with antennas,
and in keeping with that I'm planning = on erecting a=20 "T" or Marconi antenna
which I can use on both the 137 kHz. = and the=20 160-190 kHz. bands.
 
The plan is to have a Y shaped top-load = suspended=20 between my 3 towers
at around 15 meters (50 ft.) in = height.  Since=20 the towers are grounded, I'll
need to keep the ends of the top load = wires=20 a certain distance from them.
 
In searching the web I've found no info = on what=20 that distance should be to
avoid problems.   Any suggestions would be = much appreciated.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C65016.2E728EC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198299529652754718 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5ce720dba82a1bdd04ae1fdf51c7920b4a918340 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs23013wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.234.5 with SMTP id g5mr999301ugh; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:58:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si924456ugf.2006.03.19.08.58.04; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL1C3-00061H-N1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:55:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL1C3-000618-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:55:51 +0000 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL2GN-0008KU-TW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:04:24 +0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so884443wra for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SsW7V9HGF7LtAof7MfXL0oVVOHW5Y4z0us9KKDlictQbot4xc6x9jpdjvzclV7W5C3G+ShW32McAscOEqP4kngcXxGUPee2RgkvBakbfFLT5fPCPa9mc9WN1iqsZ4X038GqM0dD2BYCudt57UcMMrJ3gIlLDO3KU2B3V5RtbspY= Received: by 10.54.67.2 with SMTP id p2mr2671719wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.70.14 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8bf118410603190854q5b613e94h@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:54:48 +0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: lowfer@lwca.org, "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.799,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 Subject: LF: wireless.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6002 Dear all I'm changing hosting company on wireless.org.uk so the grabber and news site may be down at some times over the next couple of days. I hope it won't take too long! Dave. -- G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198659461591932322 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 184b9bac3107d8b9b66c0f56bfcccf71c29f53b9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs11839wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.199.5 with SMTP id w5mr378464qbf; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si6464111qbe.2006.03.23.08.19.01; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMSQa-0005MW-Tg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:12:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMSQa-0005MN-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:12:48 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMTWq-0007Ma-8r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:23:22 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FMSQW-000870-05; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:12:44 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Zw-GyrZlwemEa2aHa7daOx0hbYt4sWkxtp0Eho4GpzaBLTCSQe8Kcb@[84.133.121.66]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FMSO1-0TZrA80; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:10:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:10:03 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <453884078.20060323171003@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Zw-GyrZlwemEa2aHa7daOx0hbYt4sWkxtp0Eho4GpzaBLTCSQe8Kcb X-TOI-MSGID: f72f8706-2a91-4665-bc9c-327d09571275 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.974 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 22/23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6003 It seems T/A conditions recover slowly. Good signal levels of XGJ and XNS. Also, good copy of the WD2XES WOLF10 and WOLF5 transmissions. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198011081201628835 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 50c71d00d2a51cd5c74ef736e9c386646d3787cb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs9860wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.21.10 with SMTP id 10mr1102334qbu; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:50:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si230652qbe.2006.03.16.06.50.11; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJtkO-00035L-IE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJtkO-00035C-64 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:40 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJvK4-0005t9-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:27:55 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter90.comcast.net ([204.127.197.190]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060316144613m1200jerite>; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:13 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter90.comcast.net; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:11 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "james moritz" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:46:11 +0000 Message-Id: <031620061446.932.44197A33000C2C1B000003A422068246930B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.021 Subject: Re: LF: RE: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6005 Jim, Dick and the group, I looked at the Fair-Rite Mix 78, seems to have about 1/3 the loss at 100kHz compared to Mix 77, would large Mix 78 cores make a good high power transformer at 137? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "james moritz" > Dear Dick, LF Group, > > The Siemens N87 grade is a near-equivalent to 3C90. N27 and N67 are similar > also. N30 is a higher permeability material, not really intended for power > applications. Fair-Rite 78 grade is also very similar. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dick > Sent: 16 March 2006 11:20 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ > > Hello ....... > > I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. > Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of > them............ > > Is there any other compagny that have these large cores available in lower > quantities?? > Preferable in Germany or the Netherlands. > > Maybe there is a alternative by using Epcos cores? Material N87?? or N30?? > Anyone?? > > 73 > > Dick , PA4VHF > > (I know about using TV-cores etc, but just wonder if there is a way to get > these nice ringcores) > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198011081201628835 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f904cc45bd35f5b8a897c2af5c0f880c7ee75a54 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs7596wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.56.12 with SMTP id i12mr773763nfk; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:33:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si486526nfa.2006.03.16.04.33.18; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJrcM-0002OG-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:30:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJrcL-0002O7-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:30:13 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJtC1-0004QK-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:11:26 +0000 Received: from [147.197.215.113] (helo=tucana.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1FJrbr-00019K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:43 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1FJrbp-0000hp-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:42 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:29:41 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c648f5$4cde43e0$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000401c648eb$8bba61c0$2102000a@ibm> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-Information: X-H-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.211 Subject: LF: RE: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6006 Dear Dick, LF Group, The Siemens N87 grade is a near-equivalent to 3C90. N27 and N67 are similar also. N30 is a higher permeability material, not really intended for power applications. Fair-Rite 78 grade is also very similar. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dick Sent: 16 March 2006 11:20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Hello ....... I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of them............ Is there any other compagny that have these large cores available in lower quantities?? Preferable in Germany or the Netherlands. Maybe there is a alternative by using Epcos cores? Material N87?? or N30?? Anyone?? 73 Dick , PA4VHF (I know about using TV-cores etc, but just wonder if there is a way to get these nice ringcores) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198022257927346449 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ea24deba374986c6fa50dfb7e3f8d0b886463cfc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs7965wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.201.14 with SMTP id y14mr784100qbf; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si2575060qbq.2006.03.18.06.24.50; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKcJD-00018G-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:21:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKcJC-000187-Ty for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:21:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0139.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.139] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKdN0-0003Qu-0J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:29:34 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.156) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 440E1F0F0015843E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:21:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c64a97$3e23ab80$9ce8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> <1287529030.20060317230028@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:20:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.189 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6007 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "Dmitri" Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC >> UA0AGC qrss40 beacon 17-18 mart from 18 to 21 UTC, 137702 >> Text - only dot > >> Dmitry > > Only faint traces 18:30-19:40 noted here about 137.70215. 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1287529030.20060317230028@t-online.de> To: Dmitri In-Reply-To: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SaGCpEZarerFj0mdX+nfC3ZHzFQQKYM1u8u4bkst+9uMT1Bh-KhY63 X-TOI-MSGID: 6d3038e6-6ade-49ea-b976-e22ee1fe3963 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.182 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6008 > UA0AGC qrss40 beacon 17-18 mart from 18 to 21 UTC, 137702 > Text - only dot > Dmitry Only faint traces 18:30-19:40 noted here about 137.70215. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198022257927346449 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 565395f22f28445d6fdbed08373f639da397e061 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs10700wra; 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Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:25:16 +0300 Message-ID: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:24:15 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.025 Subject: LF: UA0AGC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6009 Hi LF, UA0AGC qrss40 beacon 17-18 mart from 18 to 21 UTC, 137702 Text - only dot Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198831573843610080 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5a798b75703505100abfd0ae2708243575244918 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs9182wrc; 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Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:28:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060325153100.02b73060@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:31:30 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0612-4, 25-03-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.737,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Frequencies for TA from Europe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_5974841==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6012 --=====================_5974841==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks Warren, 73, Dick, PA0SE At 14:57 25-3-06, you wrote: >Dick, > > The segment now in use is centered on 136.318. The old frequency was > abandonded due to interference from Navy station NPG in California, not > because of Loran interference. > >-- >73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ >FN42hi >http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: Dick Rollema > > To All from PA0SE > > > > I have not followed the T/A news for some time. That explains my > following > > question. > > > > The unofficial bandplan for the 136kHz band lists 135.90 - 135.98kHz as > the > > preferred segment for transatlantic transmissions from Europe. I > > understand that due to QRM from Loran this segment is no longer used and > > one on a higher frequency is now in use. > > Where is this segment situated? > > > > 73, Dick, PA0SE > > > > --=====================_5974841==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Warren,

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 14:57 25-3-06, you wrote:

Dick,

  The segment now in use is centered on 136.318. The old frequency was abandonded due to interference from Navy station NPG in California, not because of Loran interference.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Dick Rollema <dickrollema@casema.nl>
> To All from PA0SE
>
> I have not followed the T/A news for some time.  That explains my following
> question.
>
> The unofficial bandplan for the 136kHz band lists 135.90 - 135.98kHz as the
> preferred segment for  transatlantic transmissions from Europe.  I
> understand that due to QRM from Loran this segment is no longer used and
> one on a higher frequency is now in use.
> Where is this segment situated?
>
> 73, Dick, PA0SE
>
>
--=====================_5974841==.ALT-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198831573843610080 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1251710e84bfc68ae1fc4656a2d51410dfed372c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8843wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.220.6 with SMTP id s6mr65650qbg; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:00:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si2057892qbe.2006.03.25.06.00.15; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9Gy-0004LE-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9Gy-0004L5-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNAO8-0000kC-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:09:15 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060325135728m13005iib4e>; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:33 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:27 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, LF-Group Cc: Dick Rollema Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:27 +0000 Message-Id: <032520061357.5251.44254C46000EF77B0000148322007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.897 Subject: Re: LF: Frequencies for TA from Europe X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6013 Dick, The segment now in use is centered on 136.318. The old frequency was abandonded due to interference from Navy station NPG in California, not because of Loran interference. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Dick Rollema > To All from PA0SE > > I have not followed the T/A news for some time. That explains my following > question. > > The unofficial bandplan for the 136kHz band lists 135.90 - 135.98kHz as the > preferred segment for transatlantic transmissions from Europe. I > understand that due to QRM from Loran this segment is no longer used and > one on a higher frequency is now in use. > Where is this segment situated? > > 73, Dick, PA0SE > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198831573843610080 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 54489172bd6167e8bdb9fb1cfc51b0fb4ec3305d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8785wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.179.10 with SMTP id b10mr539240qbf; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:54:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18si2130405qbq.2006.03.25.05.54.40; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9CL-0004F8-QN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:52:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9CL-0004Ey-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:52:57 +0000 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta-fe.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNApS-0000Zf-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:37:41 +0000 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl (53556AF3.cable.casema.nl [83.85.106.243]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEA845BC for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:52:12 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060325144231.06683ac0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:54:50 +0100 To: LF-Group From: Dick Rollema Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0612-4, 25-03-2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.818,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Frequencies for TA from Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6014 To All from PA0SE I have not followed the T/A news for some time. That explains my following question. The unofficial bandplan for the 136kHz band lists 135.90 - 135.98kHz as the preferred segment for transatlantic transmissions from Europe. I understand that due to QRM from Loran this segment is no longer used and one on a higher frequency is now in use. Where is this segment situated? 73, Dick, PA0SE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197846375677055940 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 64752f03f591e123e4f6b2726bc28fce01fde16c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs23124wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.254.13 with SMTP id g13mr3064800qbs; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:07:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si3249585qbe.2006.03.14.10.07.11; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJDsw-0001Yk-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJDsw-0001Yb-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:42 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJFRu-0003K3-Tj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:45:14 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter04.comcast.net ([204.127.197.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060314180410m11001mvhse>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:15 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter04.comcast.net; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:08 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Roelof Bakker" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:08 +0000 Message-Id: <031420061804.16261.4417059800055B2200003F8522007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.067 Subject: Re: LF: T/A March 14 2006 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6015 Hi Roelof, Thanks for the capture, the storms came in here just a few minutes after I shut down at 03:50. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Roelof Bakker" > Hello Warren, > > XGJ was the only signal last night. > It appeared on screen around 00.00 UTC and peaked just before you shut the > station down. > > I also spotted a faint trace on 137.777 kHz, visible all night. > > 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197846375677055940 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: da6e6718224810bed80f95651d71dcd211f6c0d2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs22116wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.16 with SMTP id d16mr3006358qbf; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si1844518qba.2006.03.14.08.55.20; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJCjD-0001Hg-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:50:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJCjD-0001HX-Ep for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:50:35 +0000 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJEIF-0002c5-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:31:06 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:24951 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJChi-000HAd-SO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:49:04 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c64787$320cbb10$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <031420061534.17346.4416E2970003FC72000043C222007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:49:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.268 Subject: LF: T/A March 14 2006 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6478F.939A0D80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6016 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6478F.939A0D80 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Warren, XGJ was the only signal last night. It appeared on screen around 00.00 UTC and peaked just before you shut the station down. 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+vuX/wBDNFFFAH//2Q== ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6478F.939A0D80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198219998104247698 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e4b9bfac0635b690fb9c2d23733518783c9c0284 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs11579wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr886745qbd; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18si6367975qbq.2006.03.18.11.53.56; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKhSC-0001fP-Qp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:51:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6017 Wondering how much interest there is among the listmembers to work LX on 136kHz. Anyone needs this country on 136?? We'll go there with some PA's later this year, and I'm thinking of taking my 136kHz station with me, if there is any interest. 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199079261530192270 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 845cdbd14fe49c2c4f2dba669f7ddf157c7e9b5a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs22798wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr3159443qbf; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:31:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e11si3252868qbc.2006.03.27.23.31.33; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FO8Z3-0000fD-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FO8Yx-0000f4-Tg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:23 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOAD0-0002nw-Qe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:10:10 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 5017D547A3 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001b01c65238$8540f1f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:23:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.868,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C65249.485C0C00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6018 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C65249.485C0C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry verry poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity=20 only some traces of "XKO" and "NA" ( not readable! )=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C65249.485C0C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
with a strong static activity =
only some traces of  "XKO" = and "NA"=20 ( not readable! ) 
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C65249.485C0C00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199285646853959642 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d3e77a0ed8c467884ec259aeb4421e6f3a0ad1f8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7467wrc; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.8 with SMTP id s8mr946315qbf; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si693110qba.2006.03.30.06.11.57; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxqt-00007L-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:10:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOxqs-00007A-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:10:18 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOz0Q-0000Yb-Gt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:24:20 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter91.comcast.net ([204.127.197.191]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060330141002m1400sqrl5e>; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:02 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter91.comcast.net; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:01 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: Jean-Pierre M�r� Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:10:01 +0000 Message-Id: <033020061410.17852.442BE6B8000E5A68000045BC22070208530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.834,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6019 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the captures today and yesterday! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre M�r� > Hi all on the list ! > > The last night I copy only WD2XGJ > with a strong static activity ! > the captures of the night are on : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Jean-Pierre M�r� To: Subject: LF: T/A the last night Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:04:56 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night I=20 copy only WD2XGJ 
with a strong static activity = !
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17852_1143727801_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197933368489669622 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e1d4280a8bfe679d920249fe6aff4d0e14ebfd66 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs850wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.5 with SMTP id d5mr44378qbf; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si459366qbe.2006.03.15.07.58.04; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYId-0005kQ-K6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:52:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYId-0005kH-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:52:35 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJZry-0003Kk-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:33:28 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FJYIK-0002Ww-01; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:52:16 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bjv9eqZZQeS12scEHcIfY+3a13N2h24ccqgFyvcTPl7G1WIm+XJIs-@[84.133.88.243]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FJYIA-20o0Fk0; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:52:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:52:04 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <585345369.20060315165204@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bjv9eqZZQeS12scEHcIfY+3a13N2h24ccqgFyvcTPl7G1WIm+XJIs- X-TOI-MSGID: b8cafa05-2eb2-48f4-b6bc-ee73152b3cf5 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.216 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 14/15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6038 Copied XES, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Best recection was during local dawn. The overnight captures showed a lot of fading, except the strong signal of XGJ. Interesting was the late fade out of XES and XNS at about 08:00. Local sunrise was at 05:32. Capture 23:00-08:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198844744068033014 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ae1551e3db69377a5c633c39c7ee2de4c6fa9111 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs10903wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.208.19 with SMTP id f19mr1553041qbg; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si4284112qbc.2006.03.25.09.24.00; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNCSM-00050k-CK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:21:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNCSL-00050b-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:21:41 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNDZc-0002hr-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:33:17 +0000 Received: from server (dial-43.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.43]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id F10B55E19; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:21:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006b01c65030$fb621800$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:24:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.012,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Answers to antenna question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01C65030.F91FC920" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6039 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C65030.F91FC920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Alan, Jay, Warren, et all, Thanks for your replies to my question concerning a "T" antenna. As you had suggested, I plan to use Dacron rope between the end insulators and the towers. The insulators are commercial ones that I "liberated" from a ship's HF antenna, so they should be fine for my application. I do intend to transmit at some time in the future, but for now the antenna will be used for receiving. The top loading will be three wires, one from each of the towers, converging at a common point midway between them, which by luck is also over a naturally wet area of my property. There will be a total length of 190 feet of horizontal top loading, the ends being slightly higher than the central common point. I plan on using a multiple rod grounding system at the feed point, along with tieing into the # 8 bonding ground wires interconnecting the three towers. Those bonding wires also connect to the mains grounds at both my house and the shop, about 100 feet apart, so I'm confident that I've got a pretty good ground system. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C65030.F91FC920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Alan, Jay, Warren, et = all,
 
Thanks for your replies to my question = concerning a=20 "T" antenna.
As you had suggested, I plan to use = Dacron rope=20 between the
end insulators and the towers.  = The insulators=20 are commercial
ones that I "liberated" from a = ship's HF antenna, so they should
be fine for my application.  I do = intend to=20 transmit at some time
in the future, but for now the antenna = will be=20 used for receiving.
 
The top loading will be three wires, = one from each=20 of the towers,
converging at a common point midway = between them,=20 which by
luck is also over a naturally = wet area of=20 my property.  There will
be a total length of 190 feet of = horizontal top=20 loading, the ends
being slightly higher than the central = common=20 point.
 
I plan on using a multiple rod grounding system at the feed point,
along with tieing into the # 8 bonding ground wires = interconnecting
the three towers.  Those bonding = wires also=20 connect to the mains
grounds at both my house and the shop, = about 100=20 feet apart, so
I'm confident that I've got a pretty = good ground=20 system.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
 
------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C65030.F91FC920-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198076727918171504 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f8afacdd0f131630988cf9978ddc87d813645faa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs27085wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.224.14 with SMTP id w14mr1754437ugg; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:51:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1545465ugf.2006.03.17.01.51.01; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKBYR-0002Bw-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:47:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKBYQ-0002Bn-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:47:30 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKD8T-0006JM-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:29:04 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2H9kEUK010947 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2H9kE7f025257 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:14 +0100 Received: from i577a603b.versanet.de (i577a603b.versanet.de [87.122.96.59]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:14 +0100 Message-ID: <20060317104614.yku78qysbmkggw4k@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:14 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.141,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6042 Zitat von Dave G3WCB : > > Hi Warren, LF, > > Strong reception of XGJ last night from switch-on until about 0330utc, then > another peak, not as strong, about 0430utc. Screenshot of 0300 capture > attached. Full screenshots available if required. > > RX Antenna here is a 1.3m square loop at ground level. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > strongest string of XGJ here in JO43sv 0355 - 0435UTC, 15dB (!) above noise. Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198076727918171504 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7506134d96ca607ee1195b927f524ea2ada82283 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs25534wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr1781020ugj; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:39:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si1404778ugf.2006.03.16.23.39.08; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK9Wv-0001LJ-5A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:37:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK9Wu-0001LA-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:37:48 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKB6u-0005Ry-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:19:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 68488 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 07:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.158.248 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 07:36:31 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:37:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.541,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C64995.AF6F9CC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6043 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C64995.AF6F9CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Warren, LF, Strong reception of XGJ last night from switch-on until about 0330utc, then another peak, not as strong, about 0430utc. 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No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6044 Only XGJ, but better than previous night, from 0205 till 0335 UTC on 137,779.74 Hz. Thank you Warren, and best 73 to all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198999668720531874 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0eade864b12b915aaf612b1e258c9d53587f50d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs152wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.96.4 with SMTP id y4mr889515qbl; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:26:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si844925qba.2006.03.27.02.26.27; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNot1-0005up-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:23:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNot0-0005ug-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:23:46 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNq17-000543-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:36:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 3656 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2006 10:23:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.12]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 27 Mar 2006 10:23:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c65187$5effe020$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:14:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.285,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: G0MRF/G3YXM TX-mix Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6045 Hello, I'm planning to built a bit stronger station for 136kHz to take with me to LX later this year. I already have a 300W TX, design G0MRF with 2 FET's. I came across the design of G3YXM with 4 times IRFP450, however as I do not have the Hall-device used in its protective circuit, so I had to figure out something else. By the way: did somebody noted a diverence between IR or 'Harris' FET's?? The new plan is to built the original G0MRF system, and replace the original 2 FET's by 4 times IRFP450 using the values/components according to the G3YXM design, including the 'zobel-network' . The current and SWR protection will be the same as in the G0MRF set up. This protection proved to be very fast and efficient in my excisting TX. There is a difference in the way the TX is keyed. G0MRF is keying the TC4426 FET driver, while G3YXM is keying the supply line towards the 4 power FET's. I'm wondering what the practical difference is between these 2 ways of keying. 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198454890205703811 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 438d141fcd339bef80659e3fafe658dc86ad7f6b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs1433wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.203.12 with SMTP id f12mr70946qbq; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:07:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si4377364qbd.2006.03.21.02.07.26; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLdjJ-0003jn-N5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:04:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLdjJ-0003je-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:04:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout0139.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.139] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLfKq-0005kE-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:47:52 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.29) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F7930054F486 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:04:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c64cce$d0cd0970$1de8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:03:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.227,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CFH Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C64CCE.B33DBEE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6046 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C64CCE.B33DBEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI CFH is strong this morning and much stronger on my loop. This could indicate high angle of arrival of signal. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C64CCE.B33DBEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI
CFH is strong this morning and much = stronger on my=20 loop. This could indicate high angle of arrival of signal.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C64CCE.B33DBEE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198195713608148972 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 51e919846d8f97a0932e46bdb2d55ffb21c79c12 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs7215wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.231.1 with SMTP id i1mr795419qbr; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:27:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si1070473qba.2006.03.18.05.27.56; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKbRO-0000tI-12 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:25:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKbRN-0000t9-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:25:57 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKcV8-0003Eu-Vs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:33:56 +0000 Received: from server (dial-138.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.138]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 625ED6083; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:25:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601c64a8f$e6a52840$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:23:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.818,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA a bit later Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe, Lowfers, At around 03:30 UTC I spotted you again, this time using SpecLab with a QRSS30 setting. It's likely I would see your signals regularly if = Mitch wasn't so close in frequency to you, and in distance to me. As you can see, I need to calibrate the frequency readout on SpecLab, but your callsign is all there, even if in the wrong place! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe, Lowfers,
 
At around 03:30 UTC I spotted you = again, this time=20 using SpecLab with
a QRSS30 setting.  It's likely I = would see=20 your signals regularly if Mitch
wasn't so close in frequency to you, = and in=20 distance to me.
 
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As you can see, I need to calibrate the = frequency=20 readout on SpecLab,
but your callsign is all there, even if = in the=20 wrong place!
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
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0gfmfWLpoVjs1cFmZ153HPiK+ioBiIYqVK9b92PdedDQjlpYKlSpXqhOhJUqVK3Mn//Z ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64A8F.1CBF0FA0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198537642391519792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1e75766ccd26b9fde43d4cf6f482cecb058a25b3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs4614wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.105.10 with SMTP id h10mr729994qbm; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:55:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si2458105qba.2006.03.22.06.55.32; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM4dv-0007nZ-Jr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:48:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM4dv-0007nQ-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:48:59 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM6Fr-00089X-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:32:34 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060322144827m1400sri7se>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:48:32 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:48:24 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: Jean-Pierre M�r� Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:48:24 +0000 Message-Id: <032220061448.10379.442163B80005EA930000288B22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.848,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6050 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the excellent capture. With your permisssion I would like to use it on my web page. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre M�r� > > Hi all on the list ! > > The last night I copy only WD2XGJ > with a strong static activity ! > Also good copy of CFH, Halifax > the captures of the night are on : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Jean-Pierre M�r� To: Subject: LF: T/A the last night Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:02:06 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night I=20 copy only WD2XGJ 
with a strong static activity = !
Also good copy of CFH, Halifax
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10379_1143038904_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198537642391519792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0b549901ea2b10c02587a76b35e61bcb428ab1c8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs26756wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.251.12 with SMTP id d12mr395124qbs; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:02:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si70383qbd.2006.03.22.00.02.45; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLyGZ-0006oQ-H2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLyGU-0006oH-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:22 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLzM4-0007AE-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:10:15 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 24E6527557 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:00:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000e01c64d86$a7c2b670$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:00:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.162,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C64D8F.07BFA4E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6051 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C64D8F.07BFA4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy only WD2XGJ=20 with a strong static activity ! Also good copy of CFH, Halifax=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C64D8F.07BFA4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night I=20 copy only WD2XGJ 
with a strong static activity = !
Also good copy of CFH, Halifax
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C64D8F.07BFA4E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198219970996835946 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a1b24f1119c947bd88cdde4af2af2d579fa4e265 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs11572wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.237.18 with SMTP id o18mr275285qbr; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si3756196qbd.2006.03.18.11.53.30; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKhSM-0001fc-AR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:51:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKhSL-0001fT-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:51:21 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKj2v-0003jM-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:33:28 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FKhS6-0003Dq-04; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:51:06 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bdOoowZfZex6-GfzMuSwZ8eBUCSQWMTvrcNUin0Gb-aVKJho9Y18EJ@[84.133.110.232]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FKhS0-2HuKq80; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:51:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:50:57 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1936001168.20060318205057@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bdOoowZfZex6-GfzMuSwZ8eBUCSQWMTvrcNUin0Gb-aVKJho9Y18EJ X-TOI-MSGID: 450bb577-2249-409e-8c22-727276989a3b X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.148 Subject: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6052 "O" copy here of several CQ-calls in QRSS3 from UA4WPF in the past 2 hours on 137.760 kHz. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197798200209576144 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4a43c3d7bc7bb7fa664905fe6c261ab491e0820e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21118wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.119.20 with SMTP id w20mr3054957qbm; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:54:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si563316qbd.2006.03.14.07.54.17; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBlm-0000lM-8g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:49:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBlk-0000lD-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:49:09 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJCnZ-0001KK-Bm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:55:06 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060314154819m1200mk1ebe>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:48:19 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:48:18 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:48:18 +0000 Message-Id: <031420061548.17539.4416E5C1000D9AFD0000448322069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.035 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off due to Storms X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6053 Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the report! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Godet > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > > > ... > > WD2XGJ went off at 03:55 UTC as thunderstorms are approaching the area. > > ... > Nevertheless, had time to receive something before ! Thank you Warren. > > 73 ! > > F5YG > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197798200209576144 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3866c8e09bb46c821a54969a405086f7978da1ca Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs14462wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.157.18 with SMTP id j18mr1087117qbo; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:13:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si1484934qbd.2006.03.13.23.13.36; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ3dK-0007iM-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:07:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ3dJ-0007iD-L1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:07:53 +0000 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJ4ey-0007ET-LK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:13:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B73BC7000099 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:07:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-129.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-129.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.129]) by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F24427000097 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:07:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060314070741992.F24427000097@mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:34 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb lf reflector In-Reply-To: <031420060406.9260.4416414C000E3BDC0000242C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <031420060406.9260.4416414C000E3BDC0000242C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.222 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ Off due to Storms Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6054 On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > ... > WD2XGJ went off at 03:55 UTC as thunderstorms are approaching the area. > ... Nevertheless, had time to receive something before ! Thank you Warren. 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197798200209576144 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9229aeb8145f4e94656c8c2c0e14630be96161a1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs12281wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.20.17 with SMTP id x17mr2623689ugi; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:09:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si169695uge.2006.03.13.20.09.39; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ0o4-0007D4-MY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:06:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ0o4-0007Cv-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:06:48 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJ1pe-0006PK-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:12:34 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter03.comcast.net ([204.127.197.113]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060314040637m1400gmughe>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:06:37 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter03.comcast.net; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:06:37 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:06:37 +0000 Message-Id: <031420060406.9260.4416414C000E3BDC0000242C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.079 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Off due to Storms X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6055 Hello the lists, WD2XGJ went off at 03:55 UTC as thunderstorms are approaching the area. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198857603630117405 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a8f9dce5f5113bdac2c673bf3473c150579fd86c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs18993wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.184.15 with SMTP id h15mr1748710qbf; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:08:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si1959843qbe.2006.03.25.20.08.45; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNMWJ-0007ru-H0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:06:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNMWI-0007rl-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:06:26 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNNdl-0006TS-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:18:15 +0100 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060326040617m13005n5c6e>; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:06:17 +0000 Received: from [206.81.149.3] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:06:16 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ Cc: Hartmut Wolff Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:06:16 +0000 Message-Id: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ QRP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_22588_1143345976_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART,MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6057 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_22588_1143345976_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the report. Yes approximately 250 watts (+/-) until at least Tuesday night. It's only about 250 mW ERP so I guess that qualifies as QRP. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message -------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Warren, > > > WD2XGJ will be running low power the next couple of days QRSS60 on 137.7797 > (+/-) > > What power are you running? QRP with 250W? Your signal is visible > here. > > Hartmut > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_22588_1143345976_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
Hi Hartmut,
   Thanks for the report. Yes approximately 250 watts (+/-) until at least Tuesday night.
It's only about 250 mW ERP so I guess that qualifies as QRP.
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de>

> Warren,
>
> > WD2XGJ will be running low power the next couple of days QRSS60 on 137.7797
> (+/-)
>
> What power are you running? QRP with 250W? Your signal is visible
> here.
>
> Hartmut
>
>
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_22588_1143345976_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198857603630117405 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 132d5384c003b3fab622eb89bb64ec2da108a316 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs17262wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.96.20 with SMTP id t20mr341084qbb; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si1919341qbd.2006.03.25.17.13.35; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNJkk-00065h-Bi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:09:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNJkj-00065Y-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:09:10 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNKsA-0004V5-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:20:55 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FNJjj-0006xd-02; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:08:07 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Sr1rBkZLwe08-Xuazpn1-bCZ85k8YrbiAIQuClwUJCBPHHJ3-zN+0a@[84.133.88.250]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FNJjd-2AKwM40; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:08:01 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:08:02 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <238212017.20060326030802@t-online.de> To: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ In-Reply-To: <032520062046.9113.4425AC110008890F0000239922007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <032520062046.9113.4425AC110008890F0000239922007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Sr1rBkZLwe08-Xuazpn1-bCZ85k8YrbiAIQuClwUJCBPHHJ3-zN+0a X-TOI-MSGID: 5c87f36a-2553-48b3-8289-8755a1140046 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.959 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XGJ QRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6058 Warren, > WD2XGJ will be running low power the next couple of days QRSS60 on 137.7797 (+/-) What power are you running? QRP with 250W? Your signal is visible here. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198857603630117405 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 36668482c108201167b0c77e66c20c1a863d2320 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs13814wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.242.6 with SMTP id u6mr243781qbr; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si48418qbe.2006.03.25.12.48.24; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFeQ-0005KC-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFeP-0005K3-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:22 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNGlj-0003R7-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:58:01 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter06.comcast.net ([204.127.197.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060325204610m1200jdk4ie>; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:10 +0000 Received: from [63.118.136.75] by rmailcenter06.comcast.net; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:09 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:09 +0000 Message-Id: <032520062046.9113.4425AC110008890F0000239922007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ QRP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9113_1143319569_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART,MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6059 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9113_1143319569_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit WD2XGJ will be running low power the next couple of days QRSS60 on 137.7797 (+/-) -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9113_1143319569_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
WD2XGJ will be running low power the next couple of days QRSS60 on 137.7797 (+/-)
 
 
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9113_1143319569_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199384212059403408 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3e1b9df7b57e33f55f8706f278e7e62dbfcb330a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs36182wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.17.17 with SMTP id u17mr14240nfi; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:18:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si86874nfc.2006.03.31.08.18.37; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMGo-0003q1-RX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:14:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMGo-0003ps-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:14:42 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPNQy-0003Ff-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:29:18 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FPMGk-00071Z-01; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:14:38 +0200 Received: from HW1 (JT39qMZpweBfBoSMn6j8+nrtGbliADTGOKqElHF-c16icaDMoiHbYG@[84.133.75.18]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FPMGU-1fsdVY0; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:14:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:14:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13510484596.20060331181419@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: JT39qMZpweBfBoSMn6j8+nrtGbliADTGOKqElHF-c16icaDMoiHbYG X-TOI-MSGID: 80aea3f8-fc8b-4101-805e-acc479e1e9ee X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.931 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 30/31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6060 Copied XNS, XGJ, XES and XKO. Signals visible until 07:00 UTC. Local sunrise was 04:54 UTC. Captures 23:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197897908210840485 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e0317a031e579f7248d40a58cc21474f4045aac8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs8081wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.133.4 with SMTP id k4mr119322qbn; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:34:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si4252795qbq.2006.03.14.22.34.27; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJPWq-0003r3-Es for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:30:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJPWl-0003qu-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:30:35 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJR5v-0008WA-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:11:19 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B757B10596 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:30:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002701c647f9$ea5f70f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:30:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.162,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C64802.4BD061C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6064 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C64802.4BD061C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions for me ! only some traces of "XGJ" 02:30 to 04:00 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C64802.4BD061C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
The last night , poor conditions for me = !
only some traces=20 of  "XGJ"    02:30 to 04:00
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C64802.4BD061C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199277148618857074 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b0d7e04b4337963b2c86070e71ef693154e079a0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5041wrc; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.3 with SMTP id h3mr1238599qbg; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:56:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si604975qbe.2006.03.30.03.56.53; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOvfk-00084e-VS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:50:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOvfk-00084V-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:50:40 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOxKg-0008R0-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:37:18 +0100 Received: from server (dial-198.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.198]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id AFB5CAC6D; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:50:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006001c653e8$326166c0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: References: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:53:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.101,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: [LW] A bridge too far...? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C653F0.819F6040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6067 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C653F0.819F6040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Laurence, I had the same issue too...no local availability. Solution? Home brew = by winding a trifilar transformer on a large toroid removed from a computer power supply. Bench tests indicate that it works fine, giving nice deep nulls with a variety of loads, both reactive and purely resistive. I'm also given to believe that a telephone "repeater coil" could be used = for this application as well. They are known for their excellent balance = and are high quality. I have several here, so I may just lash something up = to see if indeed they would work. I'll post my results. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C653F0.819F6040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Laurence,
 
I had the same issue too...no local=20 availability.  Solution?  Home brew by
winding a trifilar transformer on a = large toroid=20 removed from a computer
power supply.  Bench tests = indicate that it=20 works fine, giving nice deep
nulls with a variety of loads, both = reactive and=20 purely resistive.
 
I'm also given to believe that a = telephone=20 "repeater coil" could be used for
this application as well.  They = are known for=20 their excellent balance and
are high quality.  I have several = here, so I=20 may just lash something up to
see if indeed they would work.  = I'll post my=20 results.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C653F0.819F6040-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198273731912044129 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3a7ff47e66f2fdda21fb5024e0704d6fd6001b30 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs19358wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.142.12 with SMTP id p12mr1580832nfd; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:07:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si2963784nfc.2006.03.19.02.08.01; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKunO-0004xA-L4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:05:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKunO-0004x1-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:05:58 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKwOB-00061J-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:48:18 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:28118 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKun7-000PWI-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:05:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c64b3c$a791d0b0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <001701c64b38$125993b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:05:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.230 Subject: LF: T/A March 19 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64B45.0912EE20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6068 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64B45.0912EE20 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Excellent signal from VO1NA, but just a few traces from other stations. 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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.977,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64E5B.CC9E3A70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6070 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64E5B.CC9E3A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry verry poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity=20 only some traces of "XGJ" and "XNS" ( not readable! )=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64E5B.CC9E3A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
with a strong static activity =
only some traces of  "XGJ" = and "XNS"=20 ( not readable! ) 
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64E5B.CC9E3A70-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198048105993303318 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1ffadbde46e4f08f7420a9a0c163267ff5e583e9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs17928wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.29.3 with SMTP id c3mr2725578wxc; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i33si3828816wxd.2006.03.16.14.21.45; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0k7-000684-2v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0k6-00067v-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:14:50 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2Jx-0001eT-S3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:56:13 +0000 Received: from 88-106-140-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.140.136]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2006 22:13:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAPxxGUSHYyw Received: from 88-106-140-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.140.136]:2732 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FK0iJ-000MZM-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:12:59 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.196,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6071 Hi Dave & LF, I can just hear it over noise, good signal showing on SpecLab qrss03. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 16 March 2006 21:29 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Unid carrier on 136,520... Dear LF, Anybody else hear the strong unid carrier on 136.52 kHz? It's been there for at least one hour...It looks green-ish on Marcus's grabber ;-) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198965439236082606 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 10467101c238f98664c392f1da656071ecbad07a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs1527wrc; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.205.12 with SMTP id h12mr2369573qbq; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:27:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si2847147qbe.2006.03.27.04.27.11; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNqmJ-0006VW-8y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:24:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNqmI-0006VN-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:24:58 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNruR-0006Dj-Bb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:37:28 +0100 Received: from HOST (balt-209-163-118-89.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.118.89]) by gemini.smart.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k2RCOsx9023076 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c65199$7701a340$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:24:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.847 Subject: LF: Re: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6072 John I ran a simultanous capture this morning,so this may give some indication for a different period..and I agree signals are pretty strong at this distance..but take a look at this mornings data.. de Lloyd W3NF 2006-03-27 11:15:07 >WOLF5 -q C:\Wolf\amstereo.wav -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f:-0.085 a: 0.0 dp: 65.3 ci: 6 cj:476 YTMHK6N08BE1WPO ? t: 96 f:-0.083 a:-0.4 dp: 64.3 ci: 1 cj:428 R 44O7YFH8ET9QH - t: 192 f: 0.273 a: 1.1 dp: 61.4 ci: 2 cj: 59 9UF/MH6EHTZ4MO8 ? t: 384 f:-0.156 pm:4.446 jm:200 q: -9.6 -7.5 K5V7*.22F6O8RHF ? t: 576 f:-0.083 pm:11.80 jm:200 q: -4.5 -4.7 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 768 f:-0.078 pm:41.94 jm:200 q: 3.2 2.2 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 960 f:-0.078 pm:43.47 jm:200 q: 3.5 2.9 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1152 f:-0.078 pm:43.50 jm:200 q: 3.3 2.6 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1344 f:-0.078 pm:43.52 jm:200 q: 3.1 2.0 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1536 f:-0.078 pm:43.71 jm:200 q: 3.1 1.4 XES WOLF05 442 - 2006-03-27 11:15:07 >WOLF10 -q C:\Wolf\amstereo.wav -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.475 a: 0.9 dp: 67.6 ci:12 cj:263 S16PN8YQCR3VHG* - t: 48 f: 0.655 a:-0.2 dp: 66.2 ci: 0 cj:286 0SF*Y1LL0BOGOB4 ? t: 96 f: 0.660 a:-0.8 dp: 63.6 ci: 1 cj:161 *S*8UPT2B40DNPO - t: 192 f:-0.137 pm:2.364 jm:481 q: -5.6 -7.5 LMLSDK4NLS*T 5W ? t: 288 f:-0.107 pm:2.653 jm:481 q: -6.3 -7.6 KAMUM2.A4U1FLZK ? t: 384 f:-0.078 pm:6.735 jm:481 q: -4.7 -5.9 HQFO5EP UH1 YP - t: 480 f:-0.068 pm:9.599 jm:481 q: -0.3 -3.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 576 f:-0.068 pm:12.41 jm:481 q: 2.1 -0.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 672 f:-0.068 pm:23.57 jm:481 q: 4.2 2.9 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 768 f:-0.078 pm:24.76 jm:481 q: 3.2 1.9 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 864 f:-0.078 pm:26.76 jm:481 q: 3.8 2.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 960 f:-0.078 pm:26.79 jm:481 q: 3.2 1.8 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1056 f:-0.078 pm:26.89 jm:481 q: 2.5 1.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1152 f:-0.078 pm:26.98 jm:481 q: 2.4 0.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1248 f:-0.078 pm:27.04 jm:481 q: 2.2 0.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1344 f:-0.078 pm:27.14 jm:481 q: 1.9 -0.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1440 f:-0.078 pm:27.15 jm:481 q: 1.8 -0.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1536 f:-0.078 pm:27.16 jm:481 q: 1.5 -1.3 XES WOLF10 577 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight > WD2XES will again be running WOLF at 10 b/s on 137.577 kHz, and 5 b/s on > 137.442 kHz tonight, starting by 2330 UTC. The power on each channel will > be about 80 watts. Reports, particularly of simultaneous copy, would be > appreciated. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198965439236082606 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6386f576633768772f7b3915903c9ccf2d56d90f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs33506wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.216.13 with SMTP id o13mr2147801ugg; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:12:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si907327uge.2006.03.26.18.12.50; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNhC8-00044Y-EO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:11:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNhC8-00044P-3F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:11:00 +0100 Received: from mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.172]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNipn-0002k2-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:56:18 +0100 Received: from mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146]) by mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2R2AMiL030305 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:10:23 -0500 Received: from 68-118-232-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.118.232.97]) by mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2006 21:10:23 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,131,1141621200"; d="scan'208"; a="135162505:sNHT16849528" Message-ID: <44274990.5000200@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:10:24 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> <018001c65134$885292e0$0b01a8c0@server> In-Reply-To: <018001c65134$885292e0$0b01a8c0@server> X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.857 Subject: Re: LF: Re: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6073 J.B, Lloyd, Bill, Thanks for the reports. With the strong signals, it's a little tough to make conclusions, but... J.B. - The WOLF10 results look pretty normal, but the frequency is jumping around on the WOLF5 results. I'm guessing that your 8000 Hz sampling rate is off. With the strong signals, you'll get copy, but it won't build up properly. Lloyd - Agreed that WOLF5 seems to be the best in that sequence. Again, with the strong sigs, this amounts to hair-splitting, doesn't it? Bill - The two signals were not started at the same time, and you're right that your decoder may frame up more quickly on the "wrong" signal. I don't see a big difference in your decodes. Maybe I should try a QRP session? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198965439236082606 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b5695c26e2f147c35a34df5c324c9372f6722dba Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs32979wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.20.18 with SMTP id x18mr2136326ugi; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k2si1206167ugf.2006.03.26.17.22.24; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNgPV-0003mq-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:20:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNgPV-0003mh-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:20:45 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNi39-0002Zc-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:06:03 +0100 Received: from server (dial-41.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.41]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id C452EB183 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:19:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <018001c65134$885292e0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:21:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.118,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017D_01C6513C.D63F5440" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6074 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C6513C.D63F5440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, LFers, Sorry I can't do the simultaneous thing for you, but what I did manage = was to do a fast QSY/Mode switch as soon as I had 2 valid lines of WOLF10, and as you can see, they both came in pretty solid. 2006-03-27 00:46:39 >WOLF10 -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.638 a: 0.3 dp:102.5 ci: 0 cj: 0 5O9.YNCVNOVVOZT ? t: 48 f:-0.045 a: 0.0 dp: 98.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 .WEMEUQ9WAQ34T7 ? t: 96 f:-0.317 a: 0.1 dp: 95.9 ci: 3 cj: 49 QJG25S*IU???EZ1 ? t: 192 f:-0.889 pm:120.4 jm:251 q:-13.9 -6.4 2ZAIO.6ZUHRF7*4 ? t: 288 f:-0.928 pm:139.3 jm: 18 q:-12.9 -8.2 5ZRJYB???X64DNG ? t: 384 f: 0.479 pm:199.8 jm:410 q: -6.3 -7.6 AG3GS365VT6TTWI ? t: 480 f: 0.488 pm:375.0 jm:410 q: -4.7 -5.8 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 576 f: 0.488 pm:376.2 jm:410 q: -5.1 -7.7 /J306.QTB42 *63 ? t: 672 f: 0.488 pm:419.7 jm:410 q: -3.8 -5.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 768 f: 0.488 pm:565.6 jm:410 q: -2.6 -2.7 XES WOLF10 577 - 2006-03-27 01:03:01 >WOLF5 -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.470 a:-0.6 dp:111.6 ci: 7 cj:454 XC3V5SYW*0Y FRU ? t: 96 f: 0.467 a:-0.2 dp:108.1 ci: 7 cj:454 G7HQ.37W/F0CCM0 ? t: 192 f: 0.659 a:-0.8 dp:104.3 ci:13 cj:354 8I9LN7XJAJL2F/P ? t: 384 f: 0.913 pm:751.9 jm:100 q:-12.1 -6.2 2PPU1PKTKUF59B4 ? t: 576 f: 0.464 pm:878.2 jm: 52 q: -4.1 -3.4 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 768 f: 0.469 pm: 2184 jm: 52 q: -1.5 -1.0 XES WOLF05 442 - I hope this is of use to you. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C6513C.D63F5440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi John, LFers,
 
Sorry I can't do the simultaneous thing = for you,=20 but what I did manage was to
do a fast QSY/Mode switch as soon as I = had 2=20 valid lines of WOLF10, and
as you can see, they both came in = pretty=20 solid.
 
2006-03-27 00:46:39 >WOLF10  -r = 8000 -f 577=20 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.638 a: 0.3 dp:102.5 ci: 0 cj:  = 0=20 5O9.YNCVNOVVOZT ?
t:  48 f:-0.045 a: 0.0 dp: 98.6 ci: 0 = cj:  0=20 .WEMEUQ9WAQ34T7 ?
t:  96 f:-0.317 a: 0.1 dp: 95.9 ci: 3 cj: 49=20 QJG25S*IU???EZ1 ?
t: 192 f:-0.889 pm:120.4 jm:251 q:-13.9 -6.4=20 2ZAIO.6ZUHRF7*4 ?
t: 288 f:-0.928 pm:139.3 jm: 18 q:-12.9 -8.2=20 5ZRJYB???X64DNG ?
t: 384 f: 0.479 pm:199.8 jm:410 q: -6.3 -7.6=20 AG3GS365VT6TTWI ?
t: 480 f: 0.488 pm:375.0 jm:410 q: -4.7 -5.8 XES = WOLF10=20 577  -
t: 576 f: 0.488 pm:376.2 jm:410 q: -5.1 -7.7 /J306.QTB42 = *63=20 ?
t: 672 f: 0.488 pm:419.7 jm:410 q: -3.8 -5.0 XES WOLF10 577  = -
t:=20 768 f: 0.488 pm:565.6 jm:410 q: -2.6 -2.7 XES WOLF10 577  = -
2006-03-27=20 01:03:01 >WOLF5  -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  48 = f: 0.470=20 a:-0.6 dp:111.6 ci: 7 cj:454 XC3V5SYW*0Y FRU ?
t:  96 f: 0.467 = a:-0.2=20 dp:108.1 ci: 7 cj:454 G7HQ.37W/F0CCM0 ?
t: 192 f: 0.659 a:-0.8 = dp:104.3 ci:13=20 cj:354 8I9LN7XJAJL2F/P ?
t: 384 f: 0.913 pm:751.9 jm:100 q:-12.1 -6.2 = 2PPU1PKTKUF59B4 ?
t: 576 f: 0.464 pm:878.2 jm: 52 q: -4.1 -3.4 XES = WOLF05=20 442  -
t: 768 f: 0.469 pm: 2184 jm: 52 q: -1.5 -1.0 XES WOLF05 = 442 =20 -
 
I hope this is of use to = you.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C6513C.D63F5440-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198965439236082606 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 74534072986f40ff2d008afd3c3d4c1b4810ab80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs32996wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.20.18 with SMTP id x18mr2136211ugi; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si391241ugf.2006.03.26.17.22.11; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNgO3-0003lT-09 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:19:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNgO2-0003lK-9K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:19:14 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNhVv-0003XT-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:31:30 +0100 Received: from HOST (balt-209-163-119-7.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.119.7]) by gemini.smart.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k2R1FtSG009785 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:15:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c6513c$020afd00$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: References: <4426CBD5.6070908@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:15:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.016 Subject: LF: Re: XES Dual WOLF again tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6075 John, I made 3 separate data collection of your simutanous Wolf with COOLEDIT and decoded them and labeled them as set1, set 2, set3.. Seems pretty clear from my end that Wolf 5 is the better but here is the data de Lloyd W3NF 2006-03-26 stereoset1 >WOLF5 -q C:\Wolf\stereomar26.wav -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.121 a:-0.3 dp: 81.0 ci: 6 cj:344 IZ60A.99AO42QP7 - t: 96 f: 0.122 a:-0.4 dp: 80.6 ci: 6 cj:344 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 192 f: 0.122 a:-0.5 dp: 81.4 ci: 6 cj:344 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 384 f: 0.122 pm:124.6 jm:272 q: 3.9 3.5 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 576 f: 0.122 pm:155.7 jm:272 q: 4.6 5.2 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 768 f: 0.122 pm:229.2 jm:272 q: 7.5 7.5 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 960 f: 0.122 pm:291.6 jm:272 q: 8.8 8.9 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1152 f: 0.122 pm:377.6 jm:271 q: 9.6 10.2 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1344 f: 0.122 pm:477.0 jm:271 q: 10.5 11.2 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1536 f: 0.122 pm:539.7 jm:271 q: 11.4 11.9 XES WOLF05 442 - 2006-03-26 stereoset1 >WOLF10 -q C:\Wolf\stereomar26.wav -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.144 a: 0.2 dp: 83.1 ci: 8 cj:168 *3WMFG8P3UIER5K ? t: 48 f: 0.948 a:-1.5 dp: 80.8 ci: 5 cj:425 09AT18QQ0*2CRXZ ? t: 96 f: 0.947 a:-1.3 dp: 79.5 ci:15 cj: 77 ET/OS02/G7R2N5C ? t: 192 f: 0.137 pm:33.81 jm:624 q: 0.1 -0.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 288 f: 0.137 pm:72.14 jm:624 q: 2.5 2.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 384 f: 0.137 pm:90.15 jm:624 q: 2.9 2.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 480 f: 0.137 pm:99.82 jm:624 q: 4.3 3.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 576 f: 0.137 pm:118.0 jm:624 q: 5.9 5.5 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 672 f: 0.137 pm:135.4 jm:624 q: 7.1 6.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 768 f: 0.137 pm:144.2 jm:624 q: 7.2 6.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 864 f: 0.137 pm:153.9 jm:624 q: 7.3 6.8 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 960 f: 0.137 pm:168.9 jm:623 q: 7.4 6.9 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1056 f: 0.137 pm:184.3 jm:623 q: 8.7 8.4 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1152 f: 0.137 pm:201.5 jm:623 q: 9.9 9.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1248 f: 0.137 pm:216.1 jm:623 q: 10.3 10.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1344 f: 0.137 pm:227.7 jm:623 q: 10.5 10.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1440 f: 0.137 pm:238.4 jm:623 q: 10.9 10.5 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1536 f: 0.137 pm:246.4 jm:623 q: 10.7 10.3 XES WOLF10 577 - 2006-03-26 stereoset2 >WOLF5 -q C:\Wolf\stereoamar26.wav -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.121 a:-0.1 dp: 80.4 ci: 2 cj:424 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 96 f: 0.121 a:-0.2 dp: 80.7 ci: 2 cj:424 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 192 f: 0.121 a:-0.2 dp: 78.6 ci: 2 cj:424 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 384 f: 0.122 pm:70.42 jm:111 q: 3.0 3.0 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 576 f: 0.122 pm:86.40 jm:111 q: 3.1 3.7 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 768 f: 0.122 pm:136.9 jm:111 q: 5.8 5.5 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 960 f: 0.122 pm:251.9 jm:111 q: 8.0 7.7 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1152 f: 0.122 pm:464.9 jm:111 q: 10.1 10.1 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1344 f: 0.122 pm:616.3 jm:111 q: 11.4 11.1 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1536 f: 0.122 pm:697.8 jm:111 q: 12.2 11.7 XES WOLF05 442 - 2006-03-26 stereoset2 >WOLF10 -q C:\Wolf\stereoamar26.wav -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.948 a: 0.5 dp: 78.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 10SGKLRAPT2/*L. ? t: 48 f: 0.947 a: 0.6 dp: 75.0 ci: 0 cj: 0 105KSKCFJ2J9PRQ ? t: 96 f: 0.153 a: 0.3 dp: 77.0 ci: 8 cj:373 K/EOCY??????YI1 ? t: 192 f: 0.137 pm:10.36 jm:303 q: -2.3 -3.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 288 f: 0.137 pm:16.53 jm:303 q: -1.4 -2.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 384 f: 0.137 pm:17.29 jm:303 q: -2.0 -3.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 480 f: 0.137 pm:19.94 jm:303 q: -2.4 -3.5 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 576 f: 0.137 pm:26.00 jm:303 q: -1.5 -2.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 672 f: 0.137 pm:39.72 jm:303 q: 1.2 0.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 768 f: 0.137 pm:62.89 jm:302 q: 4.1 3.4 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 864 f: 0.137 pm:101.1 jm:302 q: 7.1 6.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 960 f: 0.137 pm:148.3 jm:302 q: 8.3 7.8 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1056 f: 0.137 pm:196.0 jm:302 q: 9.0 8.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1152 f: 0.137 pm:221.6 jm:302 q: 9.2 8.8 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1248 f: 0.137 pm:256.6 jm:302 q: 9.1 8.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1344 f: 0.137 pm:277.4 jm:302 q: 9.9 9.3 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1440 f: 0.137 pm:301.2 jm:302 q: 10.6 10.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1536 f: 0.137 pm:323.4 jm:302 q: 11.3 11.0 XES WOLF10 577 - 2006-03-26 stereoset3 >WOLF5 -q C:\Wolf\stereobmar26.wav -r 8000 -f 442 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.120 a: 0.4 dp: 79.9 ci:12 cj:463 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 96 f: 0.121 a: 0.3 dp: 77.5 ci:12 cj:463 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 192 f: 0.121 a: 0.1 dp: 76.6 ci:12 cj:463 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 384 f: 0.122 pm:54.60 jm: 34 q: 2.3 2.0 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 576 f: 0.122 pm:84.74 jm: 34 q: 4.5 4.1 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 768 f: 0.122 pm:106.7 jm: 34 q: 6.0 5.5 XES WOLF05 442 - t: 960 f: 0.122 pm:118.8 jm: 34 q: 6.4 6.4 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1152 f: 0.122 pm:144.4 jm: 34 q: 7.2 7.1 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1344 f: 0.122 pm:164.4 jm: 34 q: 8.4 8.3 XES WOLF05 442 - t:1536 f: 0.122 pm:193.0 jm: 34 q: 9.1 8.7 XES WOLF05 442 - 2006-03-26 stereoset3 >WOLF10 -q C:\Wolf\stereobmar26.wav -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.770 a:-1.3 dp: 76.7 ci:15 cj: 1 L H???WU96NNH9V ? t: 48 f:-0.886 a:-0.2 dp: 72.4 ci:15 cj: 1 WTV0IJG9FVAI61N ? t: 96 f: 0.790 a:-1.1 dp: 70.6 ci: 4 cj: 80 CT9T2XUWF72FOQX ? t: 192 f: 0.137 pm:13.71 jm:149 q: -1.3 -1.4 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 288 f: 0.137 pm:25.17 jm:149 q: 0.6 1.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 384 f: 0.137 pm:28.66 jm:149 q: 1.2 1.5 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 480 f: 0.137 pm:32.94 jm:149 q: 1.1 2.0 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 576 f: 0.137 pm:40.23 jm:149 q: 3.4 4.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 672 f: 0.137 pm:45.32 jm:149 q: 5.3 6.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 768 f: 0.137 pm:53.55 jm:149 q: 5.2 5.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 864 f: 0.137 pm:58.89 jm:149 q: 6.1 6.6 XES WOLF10 577 - t: 960 f: 0.137 pm:66.09 jm:149 q: 6.3 6.7 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1056 f: 0.137 pm:72.49 jm:149 q: 6.1 6.4 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1152 f: 0.137 pm:81.10 jm:149 q: 6.5 6.9 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1248 f: 0.137 pm:88.37 jm:149 q: 7.7 8.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1344 f: 0.137 pm:97.50 jm:149 q: 8.8 9.2 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1440 f: 0.137 pm:101.9 jm:149 q: 9.8 10.1 XES WOLF10 577 - t:1536 f: 0.137 pm:102.6 jm:149 q: 9.6 9.9 XES WOLF10 577 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: LF: XES Dual WOLF again tonight > WD2XES will again be running WOLF at 10 b/s on 137.577 kHz, and 5 b/s on > 137.442 kHz tonight, starting by 2330 UTC. The power on each channel will > be about 80 watts. Reports, particularly of simultaneous copy, would be > appreciated. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197853528352006703 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 32725fba8cc08804cf3e1c08cc9e471bd00928ce Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs23825wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.16 with SMTP id d16mr3097230qbf; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:49:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si2595334qbe.2006.03.14.10.49.03; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEYD-0001oO-3F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:47:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEYC-0001oF-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:47:20 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJG7F-0003dS-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:27:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 215 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2006 18:47:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.50 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 18:47:03 -0000 Message-ID: <010f01c64797$af84af20$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:47:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: LF: QRPP tests Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6080 >From G3PLX: Some results from the QRPP tests for which I asked for volunteers a few days ago. The test were to evaluate the performance of the 'Clicklock' technique which I have been developing. This uses a harmonic-rich 1 pulse-per-second 'click' from a GPS receiver to transform an ordinary SSB receiver into one which is coherent (i.e. locked in frequency and phase) to GPS. This is done entirely by sound-card based DSP software, so it could turn out to be a very easy way to exploit the benefits of using GPS for frequency-locking on LF. G4JNT volunteered to transmit from a commercial synthesiser with an external reference locked to GPS. He planned to transmit a few micro-watts. After an overnight run I had received nothing so I asked him to increase power to a few watts. I could see him by conventional methods and the reason I hadn't heard his QRPP signal was clear - he was 0.0063 Hz high of the frequency on which I was listening and my bandwidth was only +/-0.0022 Hz! After studying the circuitry of the synthesiser it was clear that although the main steps were locked to GPS, the 1Hz 'fine-tune' steps were not. He then connected up one of his DDS kits instead, again locked to GPS. It couldn't zero exactly on the whole-Hz frequency we had planned to use, but the error was only half a cycle in 11 months so it wasn't a problem. To speed up this second test, Andy used a 1 watt transmitter power, giving an estimated 120uW emrp. His signal was good, about 12dB/noise over a whole day. There were a few fades of some 10-15dB, and apart from some random phase jumps which were probably due to in-shack disturbances, the phase was stable, so the GPS-locking was working at both ends. The path length between us was 400km. This 12dB was measured after integrating the signal for 225 seconds at a time, which is equivalent to a bandwidth of 4.44mHz. The second volunteer was G3JKV, about 350km away, with 100mW transmitter power and an estimated emrp of 15uW from what he described as 'as many strapped-feeder wire dipoles as I could connect in parallel'. He was using a synthesised laboratory generator fed from a Rubidium standard. G3JKV was about 2dB down on G4JNT, which doesn't quite add up, but probably means that it's more difficult to estimate radiated power than we anticipated and this would make the comparison difficult. His signal was not quite on frequency but still well within the 2mHz passband. Like the signal from G4JNT, there were a few fades during the night but the daytime signal was very stable indeed, and the daytime noise-level was lower. After the run I estimated the frequency error by counting that his signal had rotated 7 cycles over the 14 hour test. This represents a frequency error of 130uHz. Later on, Walter told me that it looked like the Rubidium tube had failed and the system was free-running! The conclusion of the tests so far as that, given the frequency stability, it's possible to receive power levels of the order of 15-100uW over distances of 350-400km with SNR's of 10-12dB, in a bandwidth of 4.4mHz. The propagation is quite stable enough for daytime tests at this narrow bandwidth, and indeed I am sure we could have gone lower in power and still detected a signal. Looking at the log of the G3JKV test, which is effectively a recording of the signal in the 4.4mHz bandwidth covering the whole test, I can simulate what would have been the performance of a BPSK coding system. A 320 bit data sequence would have suffered just 5 corruptions, but of course this is at the rather low data rate of 2.2 milli-baud, that's one bit every 225 secs. The Clicklock technique is also being evaluated by two other people, one or both of which may well release software for general use, but it's still early days and we need to think of the best way to build this idea into useful communication software, and also think about ways to lock transmitters to GPS. 73 Peter G3PLX 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198925280710037548 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d894c71f44335bbd485a3201ae870dadbe313c64 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs25060wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.10.16 with SMTP id 16mr1886588qbj; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:44:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si2456705qbe.2006.03.26.06.44.06; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWRe-0001Cc-RG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:42:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWRe-0001CT-GY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:42:18 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNY57-0008BB-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:27:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 66016 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2006 14:41:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.12.237 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2006 14:41:56 -0000 Message-ID: <004901c650e3$70f5e800$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:41:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.292 Subject: LF: Re: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6081 Gary....Wolf DK4U Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Sent: 26 March 2006 15:19 Subject: LF: HELL CQ - Who? > Hi LF, > > Just switched my display back ti SpecLab just in time to see a CQ in HELL go > off the screen, saw CQ DK???? but neede a little more brightness to read it. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198307906512592238 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 21bf57e7ac4b3b8bf99591bbad947db07ce38f34 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs10132wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.88.10 with SMTP id l10mr37267qbb; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:33:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si2329894qbd.2006.03.20.02.33.42; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLHed-0000Cf-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:30:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLHed-0000CW-4D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:30:27 +0000 Received: from mxout02.versatel.de ([212.7.152.119]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLIjH-0004NY-LQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:39:22 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx03.versatel.de [212.7.146.3]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2KAUHKt022732 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:30:17 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2KAUHvD001576 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:30:17 +0100 Received: from i577a6107.versanet.de (i577a6107.versanet.de [87.122.97.7]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:30:17 +0100 Message-ID: <20060320113017.qqa9xz3ohkask40o@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:30:17 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <441DAC4D.9090701@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <441DAC4D.9090701@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.104,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: XES WOLF 19-20 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6084 Zitat von John Andrews : > Thanks to all for the JASON reports from last night. WD2XES will run > WOLF (10) on 137.577 kHz tonight, starting around 2300 UTC. Reports > are welcome. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > http://www.w1tag.com > > > Hi John, strong WOLF signs from 0200UTC until 0400UTC and weak signs 0400-0500UTC on 137,57755kHz. regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198307906512592238 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a2c9fb9e758d9ca953562d5451ed937df0a4db98 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8980wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.235.19 with SMTP id m19mr202830qbr; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:40:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si4009233qba.2006.03.20.00.40.51; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLFuH-0008OQ-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:38:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLFuH-0008OH-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:38:29 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLHVN-0004cv-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:21:11 +0000 Received: from hatshepsout.terrier (nas-p19-1-62-147-76-78.dial.proxad.net [62.147.76.78]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F29C9AB64 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:37:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:36:22 +0100 From: Michel F5WK X-Mailer: The Bat! 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6086 Thanks to all for the JASON reports from last night. WD2XES will run WOLF (10) on 137.577 kHz tonight, starting around 2300 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199358604107967770 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c872d84904aae558bb2fe2fab0e04b75c244ef04 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs28806wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.199.12 with SMTP id w12mr133863nff; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si52561nfb.2006.03.31.01.31.35; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPFss-0002tf-TK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:25:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPFss-0002tW-EI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:25:34 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPH2u-00009a-HI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:40:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 6056 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2006 09:25:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MJUSonyLaptop) (m.j.underhill@btinternet.com@86.132.249.235 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 09:25:31 -0000 From: "Mike Underhill" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:25:31 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c654a5$0eb4e130$7e00a8c0@MJUSonyLaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: <033020061410.20101.442BE6E3000E9BAB00004E8522070208530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: DCF77 request for DX reception reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6088 Dear Group I was at PTB Braunschweig yesterday and saw the atomic clocks for the DCF77 time signal on 77kHz. Juergen Becker on email juergen.becker@ptb.de , an engineer responsible for time dissemination, said that he would be particularly interested in reception reports from outside Europe. Preferably copy to him direct as well to the list. Any takers? Mike G3LHZ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 30/03/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198140308792420649 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f27b9b53e8ec19619b4bb070a8bc7d86dd2b8b41 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs8942wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.12 with SMTP id n12mr589553qbm; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si113904qbc.2006.03.17.14.47.19; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKNhu-0006l1-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKNhp-0006ks-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:01 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKPI2-0005P2-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:27:47 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C29C1222CC for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:45:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001001c64a14$73d50720$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:45:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.045,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64A1C.D42CBFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6089 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64A1C.D42CBFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe and the list I copy VO1NA in QRSS3 now ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64A1C.D42CBFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe and the list
 
I copy VO1NA in QRSS3 now = !
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64A1C.D42CBFC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198356887392437634 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8d471d9efa5f0f3d6b723d8e61b38c6f1cbbcc71 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8599wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.219.8 with SMTP id w8mr23532qbq; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:09:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si2252416qbd.2006.03.20.00.09.44; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLFQR-0008Fu-5p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:07:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLFQN-0008Fl-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:07:35 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLGV1-0003xI-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:16:28 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 5007D9AC5F for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:07:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003401c64bf5$576d00f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:07:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.199,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C64BFD.B8E9FFB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6091 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C64BFD.B8E9FFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity=20 Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil !=20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C64BFD.B8E9FFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry poor conditions = for me=20 !
with a strong static activity =
Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil = ! 
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C64BFD.B8E9FFB0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199165343878730220 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 33a158c687d326ce692d7ae0aaf49573b773ba1f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs21115wrc; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.4 with SMTP id s4mr215618qbq; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:19:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18si1916450qbq.2006.03.28.22.19.47; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOTxc-0003SK-99 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:15:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOTxY-0003SB-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:15:12 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOV6U-0005Ll-Qe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:28:34 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 29C23485B9 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001301c652f8$1f3175e0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:15:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.096,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C65308.E12C04C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6098 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C65308.E12C04C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy only WD2XGJ=20 with a small static activity ! the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C65308.E12C04C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night I=20 copy only WD2XGJ 
with a small static activity = !
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C65308.E12C04C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197805121795966035 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a6e6f416e066895050655c90e0d63a95b92645cd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs13428wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.234.12 with SMTP id l12mr48244qbr; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:59:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si3407710qba.2006.03.13.21.59.39; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ2Xf-0007V2-JR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:57:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ2Xf-0007Ut-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:57:59 +0000 Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJ46W-0004fL-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:38:19 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0803.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA2E71C00193 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:57:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-237.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-237.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.237]) by mwinf0803.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0A0501C00191 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:57:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060314055738411.0A0501C00191@mwinf0803.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:56:30 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.286 Subject: LF: XGJ alone last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6100 XGJ : rcvd shortly after 0235, then 0310 ==> 0350 UTC. And maybe something else, but traces only, between 0005 and 0040 UTC on 177,777.52 Hz (?) Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198833922181187666 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5095fe668bc56d74be3fe7bff977e6f464127da1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14104wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.103.20 with SMTP id f20mr1657090qbm; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si1796992qba.2006.03.25.13.07.06; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFwq-0005W9-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFwq-0005W0-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:24 +0000 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNHa3-0003l1-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-8-230.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.8.230] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FNFwZ-0009eo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4425B61B.3070902@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:28:59 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <032520061429.5682.442553C700054BD40000163222070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <032520061429.5682.442553C700054BD40000163222070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [LW] Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6101 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: >J.B., > > I take it this is a transmitting antenna? If so, then it will depend on how much power you are running and what kind of insulators you are using so you don't arc over from the top wire to the grounded tower. It will help if you use non conductive rope (dacron) between the tower and the insulator. I imagine that your biggest problems would occur if you ran high power and the insulators were wet. It would be a good idea to use the ceramic dogbone or other insulator with a long leakage path. > > > During the period when I was transmitting using high power (1kW) with a suburban antenna I noticed that once in a while it fell down - the insulated line between the insulator and the support just 'broke'. It turned out that the problem was caused by leakage across the insulator when it became dirty or there was a build up of salt (I am about 400m from the sea). This occured even though I was using PA0SE supplied ceramic insulators about 120mm (5in) long. The problem was fixed by using copper wire between the insulator and the support. I had a ritual of insulator cleaning, and inspecting the insulators in the dark with the transmitter switched on looking for blue tracking. The problem only seemed to occur if the insulated cord support was relatively short, say less than 2m long. Prolonged tracking across an insulator will etch a track in the ceramic glaze of the insulator and render is useless. Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198833922181187666 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 81538ff9a31f374418cbedf3e7b991639b26c1ed Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs9186wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.233.3 with SMTP id f3mr1482186qbh; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:32:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d12si540680qbc.2006.03.25.06.31.59; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9mD-0004b6-1j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:30:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN9mC-0004aw-KC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:30:00 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNBPF-0000nn-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:14:44 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060325142929m1100c5h60e>; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:29:34 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:29:27 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: lowfer@lwca.org, Cc: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" , Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:29:27 +0000 Message-Id: <032520061429.5682.442553C700054BD40000163222070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.844,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: LF: Re: [LW] Antenna question Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5682_1143296967_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6102 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5682_1143296967_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit J.B., I take it this is a transmitting antenna? If so, then it will depend on how much power you are running and what kind of insulators you are using so you don't arc over from the top wire to the grounded tower. It will help if you use non conductive rope (dacron) between the tower and the insulator. I imagine that your biggest problems would occur if you ran high power and the insulators were wet. It would be a good idea to use the ceramic dogbone or other insulator with a long leakage path. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" > Hello Lowfers & LFers, > > My greatest enjoyment of ham radio is building and tinkering with antennas, > and in keeping with that I'm planning on erecting a "T" or Marconi antenna > which I can use on both the 137 kHz. and the 160-190 kHz. bands. > > The plan is to have a Y shaped top-load suspended between my 3 towers > at around 15 meters (50 ft.) in height. Since the towers are grounded, I'll > need to keep the ends of the top load wires a certain distance from them. > > In searching the web I've found no info on what that distance should be to > avoid problems. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5682_1143296967_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Subject: [LW] Antenna question Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:11:54 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5682_1143296967_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5682_1143296967_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Lowfers & LFers,
 
My greatest enjoyment of ham radio is = building and=20 tinkering with antennas,
and in keeping with that I'm planning = on erecting a=20 "T" or Marconi antenna
which I can use on both the 137 kHz. = and the=20 160-190 kHz. bands.
 
The plan is to have a Y shaped top-load = suspended=20 between my 3 towers
at around 15 meters (50 ft.) in = height.  Since=20 the towers are grounded, I'll
need to keep the ends of the top load = wires=20 a certain distance from them.
 
In searching the web I've found no info = on what=20 that distance should be to
avoid problems.   Any suggestions would be = much appreciated.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
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MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <257.88fa388.3153316d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:02:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.499,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: TA Loran on 136 kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_257.88fa388.3153316d_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_COMMENT_8BITS, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6106 --part1_257.88fa388.3153316d_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_257.88fa388.3153316d_rel_boundary" --part1_257.88fa388.3153316d_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="257.88fa388_alt_bound" --257.88fa388_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group, a while ago, Peter G3PLX mentioned that it should be possible to receive=20 American Loran sidebands on 136 kHz in time domain, focussing all the availa= ble=20 power of the spectral lines back to short pulses. This is not quite easy as=20= the=20 expected average power within the SSB passband would be less than 50 mW EMRP= ,=20 even for the strongest stations emitting a megawatt peak on 100 kHz. In=20 addition, the wideband reception would make it difficult to evade QRM source= s such=20 as SXV, CFH or DCF39. Peter and I have both worked on software to do the time domain averaging,=20 after rotating phases to align both to the group repetition interval (GRI) a= nd to=20 the one millisecond pulse repetition within the pulsegroups. To deal with=20 frequency and samplerate deviations, we used different approaches: Peter app= lied=20 his elegant GPS-based "ClickLock" technique which he described in another=20 posting, whereas I attempted to aquire and track the stronger European chain= s=20 (Sylt, Eide) and derive absolute TAI time, and then look only around the exp= ected=20 pulse arrival times of the other chains. Last Friday, Peter recorded this graph, showing the first positive reception= =20 of transatlantic Loran spillover on 136 kHz, with a peak of about 15 dB SNR: ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ The same night, my modified "LoranView" program managed to pick up the Saudi= =20 Arabia chain (GRI 8830), but no definite TA reception yet. This screenshot i= s=20 from 21:56 to 22:56, with 5 minutes/pixel vertically and 5513 samples/s left= =20 to right: However the next night produced clear traces of several North American=20 stations - http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_137and100kHz.= htm=20 shows time-domain Loran as seen on 136.75 kHz and on 100 kHz. In general, re= lative=20 levels of the 100 kHz main signal and the 136 kHz sidebands seem to be more=20 or less the same for all stations, with the notable exeption of Simferopol=20 which has unusually high spillover. Shown alongside is a small colour-DF=20 spectrogram of the LF band occupation; obviously most of the noise backgroun= d is=20 associated with SXV (yellow on 135.73 kHz) and CFH (blue on 137.0 kHz). 73 and best wishes Markus In einer eMail vom 02.03.2006 21:24:07 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= =20 peter.martinez@btinternet.com:=20 > Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels >=20 ... I have now extended the coherent software so I can receive the spurious= =20 > LORAN signals as pulses. This is about 25dB more sensitive that looking fo= r=20 > a single spectral line, because I am effectively adding-together ALL the=20 > spurious spectral lines I can hear in the 3kHz SSB receiver. I can, for ex= ample,=20 > copy the Slonim (Belarus) LORAN transmitter, 1800km away, at midday, on=20 > 136.5kHz in a bandwidth of +/-1.5kHz. It's 20dB/noise, but of course that=20= is=20 > after 15 minutes of coherently summing the signal. The nice thing about th= is=20 > technique is that the different transmitters in the chain do NOT mix toget= her. I=20 > can even read the 8-bit BPSK ident code inside each pulse - the modulation= on=20 > the spurious emissions is still perfectly readable. Maybe I could even co= py=20 > some of the USA LORAN transmitters on 136kHz using this idea. No more need= =20 > for beacons, just record the dx LORAN pulses! >=20 --257.88fa388_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group,

a while ago, Peter G3PLX mentioned that it should be possible to receive Ame= rican Loran sidebands on 136 kHz in time domain, focussing all the available= power of the spectral lines back to short pulses. This is not quite easy as= the expected average power within the SSB passband would be less than 50 mW= EMRP, even for the strongest stations emitting a megawatt peak on 100 kHz.=20= In addition, the wideband reception would make it difficult to evade QRM sou= rces such as SXV, CFH or DCF39.

Peter and I have both worked on software to do the time domain averaging, af= ter rotating phases to align both to the group repetition interval (GRI) and= to the one millisecond pulse repetition within the pulsegroups. To deal wit= h frequency and samplerate deviations, we used different approaches: Peter a= pplied his elegant GPS-based "ClickLock" technique which he described in ano= ther posting, whereas I attempted to aquire and track the stronger European=20= chains (Sylt, Eide) and derive absolute TAI time, and then look only around=20= the expected pulse arrival times of the other chains.

Last Friday, Peter recorded this graph, showing the first positive reception= of transatlantic Loran spillover on 136 kHz, with a peak of about 15 dB SNR= :
____________________________________________________________

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The same night, my modified "LoranView" program managed to pick up the Saudi= Arabia chain (GRI 8830), but no definite TA reception yet. This screenshot=20= is from 21:56 to 22:56, with 5 minutes/pixel vertically and 5513 samples/s l= eft to right:



However the next night produced clear traces of several North American stati= ons -  http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_137and100= kHz.htm shows time-domain Loran as seen on 136.75 kHz and on 100 kHz. In= general, relative levels of the 100 kHz main signal and the 136 kHz sideban= ds seem to be more or less the same for all stations, with the notable exept= ion of Simferopol which has unusually high spillover. Shown alongside is a s= mall colour-DF spectrogram of the LF band occupation; obviously most of the=20= noise background is associated with SXV (yellow on 135.73 kHz) and CFH (blue= on 137.0 kHz).

73 and best wishes

Markus


In einer eMail vom 02.03.2006 21:24:07 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= peter.martinez@btinternet.com:

Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission= levels

... I have now extended the coherent software so I can receive the spurious=
LORAN signals as pulses. This i= s about 25dB more sensitive that looking for a single spectral line, because= I am effectively adding-together ALL the spurious spectral lines I can hear= in the 3kHz SSB receiver. I can, for example, copy the Slonim (Belarus) LOR= AN transmitter, 1800km away, at midday, on 136.5kHz in a bandwidth of +/-1.5= kHz. It's 20dB/noise, but of course that is after 15 minutes of coherently s= umming the signal. The nice thing about this technique is that the different= transmitters in the chain do NOT mix together. I can even read the 8-bit BP= SK ident code inside each pulse - the modulation on the spurious emissions i= s still perfectly readable.  Maybe I could even copy some of the USA LO= RAN transmitters on 136kHz using this idea. No more need for beacons, just r= ecord the dx LORAN pulses!


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<002701c64edd$8793ff00$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:05:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: LF: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6109 >From G3PLX: I have some black coloured poles (from www.sotabeams.co.uk) but they were certainly not carbon fibre, but glass fibre. Maybe the black paint was conducting, I don't know. I wanted them as conducting elements anyway so it was not important. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198666586430411008 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 45ae12058b6cb9aafdf83d28708c19917ba30d86 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs23406wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.3 with SMTP id p3mr271832qbn; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si86598qbd.2006.03.23.16.03.28; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMZkC-0007Qp-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:01:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMZkC-0007Qg-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:01:32 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMbMh-0003Ts-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:45:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 60026 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 00:01:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.104.252?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.104.252 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 00:01:10 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.3.0/290]); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:59:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c64ed5$dde7e2c0$fc687ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <002101c64ac4$2f109860$2102000a@ibm> <8bf118410603190722u455ba0f7q@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:59:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.204 Subject: LF: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6110 Dear Dick, LF Group, I used three 10m telescopic fibreglass "fishing poles" to set up an inverted L 136kHz antenna for an expedition to Puckeridge some years ago. The inverted L had about 40m horizontal section, with a single wire, and with about 300W I had many CW contacts up to 1000km or so, mostly during daylight (I didn't have the gear to do portable QRSS at that time). The most effective ground I tried was 4 x 1m ground rods, driven into the ground near the antenna downlead. This system achieved an ERP around 0.15W in a good open field location. The main difficulty with the fishing poles is that they are very flexible - I had to use nylon monofilament guys at the ends of the horizontal span, in order to keep the poles reasonably vertical. I used about 4mH loading coil inductance, wound on 100mm PVC tubing, in a plastic dustbin to tune the antenna. I had no problems at 300W, but later experience has shown that corona will be a problem with this short an antenna wire and 1kW TX power. The best way to avoid this would be to reduce the voltage by having a longer antenna, probably 80m or more would be OK, but this would need more poles to support it. I missed LX1PD last time around, so would certainly be pleased to work you in LX! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: LF: portable DX-pedition antenna? > Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, > and as efficient as possible? > Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198666586430411008 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d188c7477b755c7d19f1e9b78dac28aeb74d73dd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14692wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.16 with SMTP id o16mr1927387qbb; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si180198qbq.2006.03.23.10.12.15; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMUFa-0005s8-KV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:09:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMUFa-0005rz-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:09:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0162.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.162] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMVLt-0007yl-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:20:10 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.228.73) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793005A0027 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:09:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c64ea4$eac770e0$49e4fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <002101c64ac4$2f109860$2102000a@ibm> <8bf118410603190722u455ba0f7q@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:08:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.154 Subject: LF: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6111 Hi Dick. On my travels I use a 10 metre telescopic fibre glass pole. Often I can get this up a few more metres on a verandah or the roof of a building especiall around southern europe because of the type of house design.This will support a variety of antennas but for LF I would suggest an inv L type antenna ie 12m vertical plus what ever length of top you can get out. Because of the bend you will lose a metre or so, then comes the convential loading coil and matching to your coax to the TX/RX. Throw out a few insulated ground radials and you are in business. Depending on your loading coil and antenna wire diameter you could run 1kw. In my opinion this is the best approach, kites, balloons etc would work but introduce other variables and unreliability. I will look out for you on CW although I have worked LX several times years ago on CW. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: LF: portable DX-pedition antenna? > Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, > and as efficient as possible? > Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198140059898171711 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 65423d31ab6d527f901d6998d4c9f4c7d4ccd054 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs8895wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.200.2 with SMTP id c2mr183818qbq; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:43:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si1223673qbe.2006.03.17.14.43.21; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKNds-0006fw-Cu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:41:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKNds-0006fn-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:41:56 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKPE7-0005MO-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:23:42 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FKNdc-0006yq-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:41:40 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TnPaEwZfZeftkRwGYAaw8+ZJYx2DEfwEJL9Et64lzBH+awfkKTT2Uj@[84.133.116.191]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FKNdR-1Yjulc0; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:41:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:41:29 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1158636427.20060317234129@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TnPaEwZfZeftkRwGYAaw8+ZJYx2DEfwEJL9Et64lzBH+awfkKTT2Uj X-TOI-MSGID: 596619db-b9c5-4b85-8206-7887feba06de X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.354,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: VO1NA / UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6115 Very strong signal from VO1NA tonight. Good copy on a QRSS3 screen since about 22:00. "O" copy of UA4WPF 19:05-19:20 on 137.7605. Saw traces on the same frequency about 17:10-17:25. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197898242894932972 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f78aac1babf4c6de69ee258e98a747e709597f07 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs8128wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.11 with SMTP id o11mr121954qbb; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si3749703qba.2006.03.14.22.39.46; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJPcC-0003yK-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:36:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJPcC-0003yB-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:36:12 +0000 Received: from smtp12.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJRBR-00006x-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:16:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8BB4E1C0008D for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:35:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-41.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-41.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.41]) by mwinf1212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D04831C00088 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:35:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060315063550853.D04831C00088@mwinf1212.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:34:42 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.237 Subject: LF: TA = 0 last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6117 Sorry... and high level of statics here. But 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198169753922026797 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6cf5343efee27d17e6b148209553c5d84e62dca6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs2720wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.21.10 with SMTP id 10mr677529qbu; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:35:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si2323777qba.2006.03.17.22.35.20; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKV0o-0008JB-DQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:34:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKV0o-0008J2-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:34:06 +0000 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKWb9-0007yM-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:15:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0701.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2E3E87000086 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:33:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-162.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-162.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.162]) by mwinf0701.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 792F17000084 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:33:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060318063333496.792F17000084@mwinf0701.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:32:21 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.037 Subject: LF: And VO1NA continues after 0600 Z Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6118 Traces here JN09XI until 0620 UTC ! (local sunrise today at 0601 UTC). 73 ! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198902254108628026 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 49e366e77dec0cb657ee605133e8aee9f735b159 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs22812wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.59.16 with SMTP id m16mr58213qbk; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:05:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si2107421qbq.2006.03.26.03.05.45; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNT1z-0000RX-OY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:03:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNT1z-0000RO-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:03:35 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNUfQ-0006ki-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:48:39 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D0FE51C00D01 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-156.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-156.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.156]) by mwinf0108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0FDF11C00CFF for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:03:11 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060326110312651.0FDF11C00CFF@mwinf0108.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:01:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: Jean-Pierre Godet In-Reply-To: <1283354285.20060326120015@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <1283354285.20060326120015@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.919 Subject: Re: LF: rcvd only NA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6119 On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > ... > a PA station was testing DFCW at that on about 137.776/137.781. Was > readable on a QRSS3 screen. > ... Thank you very much, Hartmut, And congratulations for you excellent reception. On my QRSS120 looks so strange... I send you directly a part of the screenshot, just for fun. Best 73, good sunday to you and all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198902254108628026 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2593dab4b6f77fee123d561182ae1a795168cbf8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs22338wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.151.4 with SMTP id y4mr1817682qbd; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:03:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si1240088qba.2006.03.26.02.03.23; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNS2t-00007O-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:00:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNS2s-00007F-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:00:26 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNTAS-0007CT-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:12:23 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FNS2o-0002gq-03; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:00:22 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bNbwV4ZHYeOVrl2jaszxa0uH033ZJJBZZQuGxBrL93Jup-Zb+paTw9@[84.133.107.239]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FNS2j-1L5nHM0; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:00:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:00:15 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1283354285.20060326120015@t-online.de> To: Jean-Pierre Godet In-Reply-To: References: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bNbwV4ZHYeOVrl2jaszxa0uH033ZJJBZZQuGxBrL93Jup-Zb+paTw9 X-TOI-MSGID: 8c9e4722-aa87-48da-a478-5da61f59b32e X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.952 Subject: Re: LF: rcvd only NA last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6120 Hi Jean Pierre, > And very very strange double drifting signal in the waterhole yesterday, > from 2100 to 2130 UTC, strong, in the same time 137,781.4 ==> 137,780.8 Hz and 137,777.6 ==>> 137,776.8 Hz, the last one looks like a comet. a PA station was testing DFCW at that on about 137.776/137.781. Was readable on a QRSS3 screen. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198902254108628026 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 943549126a4f5e0582cc133c036ced96f369d66b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs21507wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.243.17 with SMTP id q17mr1823067qbh; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:38:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si2560563qbe.2006.03.26.00.38.06; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNQiu-0008M7-Qf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:35:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNQiu-0008Ly-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:35:44 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNSMJ-00061z-06 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:20:46 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A25D41C0017B for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:35:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-73.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-73.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.73]) by mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D7BA31C00172 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:35:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060326083522883.D7BA31C00172@mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:34:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <032620060406.22588.44261337000AFD140000583C22058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.946 Subject: LF: rcvd only NA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6121 Only one NA, abt 0510 ==> 0540 UTC, and if the clock does not fool us, because "the times there are a-changin" in Europe (summer time, in France UTC + 1 ==> UTC +2 last night at 0200 UTC). And very very strange double drifting signal in the waterhole yesterday, from 2100 to 2130 UTC, strong, in the same time 137,781.4 ==> 137,780.8 Hz and 137,777.6 ==> 137,776.8 Hz, the last one looks like a comet. Best 73 all ! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198679665873150315 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8c3d08bdf786b8456133a89e991d02e3ab5d2b51 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs20434wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.232.17 with SMTP id j17mr86365qbr; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:40:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si282386qbc.2006.03.23.13.40.08; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMXVj-0006rm-7C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMXVi-0006rd-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:26 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMZ88-0002ky-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:22:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 18885 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2006 21:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.207.43 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 21:37:01 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:16 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <227341207.20060323221846@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.543,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: UNID signal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64EC2.180F84D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6123 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64EC2.180F84D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Hartmut. I saw the big sawtooth on 20, 21 & 22 March. I thought it was local QRM, too. Screenshot of small section of unid sawtooth attached, close to G3XIZ'z signal. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 23 March 2006 21:19 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: UNID signal The past week I captured an UNID signal 137.7-137.78kHz. It looked like a big sawtooth. I first thought it had a local source, best reception was from the west. 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1975372373.20060318131424@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Xpm56wZO8eCFIMccgC7ri03HCEE-ZTa2xqa+5Nh6x+WdyXzLDN2x6j X-TOI-MSGID: dc352b8a-2f52-4c55-8f0c-395a7a09632c X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.159 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 17/18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6127 Copied VO1NA in QRSS30, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Best signals 04:00-06:00. Captures 22:00-07:30 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198505447867453216 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 95ebfbddfc5da71257ad58e8e173c27ac94c96c0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs19528wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.139.19 with SMTP id r19mr71851qbn; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:34:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si337569qbe.2006.03.21.16.34.52; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLrFL-0005rT-KF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:30:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLrFL-0005rK-5y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:30:43 +0000 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLsr6-0003mi-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:14:04 +0000 Received: from HOST (blt-209-163-102-178.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.102.178]) by gemini.smart.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k2M0RGfs023070 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:27:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c64d47$5ee80ac0$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: References: <442062F5.6060907@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:27:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.247 Subject: LF: Re: XES WOLF 5 Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6137 No backward copy tonite..Wolf 5 looks good de Lloyd W3NF 2006-03-21 23:59:07 >WOLF5 -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -d 18 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.116 a:-0.2 dp: 81.6 ci: 4 cj: 2 /MUTIUW.5K 28 ? t: 96 f: 0.117 a:-0.4 dp: 79.4 ci: 4 cj: 2 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 192 f: 0.117 a:-0.2 dp: 80.7 ci: 4 cj: 2 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 384 f: 0.117 pm:95.30 jm:955 q: 0.9 1.2 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 576 f: 0.117 pm:156.6 jm:955 q: 4.0 4.1 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 768 f: 0.117 pm:194.2 jm:955 q: 5.4 5.2 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 960 f: 0.117 pm:205.8 jm:955 q: 5.9 5.5 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t:1152 f: 0.117 pm:219.5 jm:955 q: 6.6 5.8 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: LF: XES WOLF 5 Tonight > We speculated last year that the slower variations of WOLF might have > better static-crash immunity, so it's time for some tests. XES will run > WOLF at the 5 b/s rate tonight on 137.577 kHz, starting around 2330 UTC. > Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198505447867453216 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 28bf5f66ad30a4d92fbb0e91d6aa8c9b3b7f01f5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs18557wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.84.16 with SMTP id m16mr154710qbl; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:31:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si175874qba.2006.03.21.15.31.01; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLqHS-0005f8-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:28:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLqHR-0005ez-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:28:49 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLrMs-00067Y-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:38:32 +0000 Received: from server (dial-111.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.111]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 381C05E50 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:28:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <019e01c64d3f$593287c0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <442062F5.6060907@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:29:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.009,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: XES WOLF 5 Tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019B_01C64D3F.486FC240" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C64D3F.486FC240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, As you can see, it was second line lockup of your WOLF 5 signals: 2006-03-21 23:14:13 >WOLF5 -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 t: 48 f: 0.464 a:-1.0 dp:113.2 ci: 0 cj: 0 J61UVPL*1FBQ0B* ? t: 96 f: 0.464 a:-1.1 dp:111.5 ci: 6 cj:221 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 192 f: 0.464 a:-1.0 dp:112.7 ci: 6 cj:221 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - t: 384 f: 0.464 pm: 3809 jm:518 q: 3.2 3.3 WOLF5 DE WD2XES - 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Andrews=20 To: lowfer@lwca.org ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: LF: XES WOLF 5 Tonight We speculated last year that the slower variations of WOLF might have=20 better static-crash immunity, so it's time for some tests. XES will = run=20 WOLF at the 5 b/s rate tonight on 137.577 kHz, starting around 2330 = UTC.=20 Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C64D3F.486FC240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi John,
 
As you can see, it was second line = lockup of your=20 WOLF 5 signals:

2006-03-21 23:14:13 >WOLF5 -r = 8000 -f 577 -t=20 1.0 -w 0.0000
t: 48   f: 0.464  a:-1.0  dp:113.2 = ci: 0=20 cj: 0     J61UVPL*1FBQ0B* ?
t: 96   f:=20 0.464  a:-1.1  dp:111.5 ci: 6 cj:221 WOLF5 DE WD2XES = -
t: 192=20 f: 0.464  a:-1.0  dp:112.7 ci: 6 cj:221 WOLF5 DE WD2XES = -
t: 384 f:=20 0.464 pm: 3809 jm:518 q: 3.2 3.3   WOLF5 DE WD2XES = -
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
EN93dr
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John = Andrews
To: lowfer@lwca.org ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 = 8:32=20 PM
Subject: LF: XES WOLF 5 = Tonight

We speculated last year that the slower variations of = WOLF=20 might have
better static-crash immunity, so it's time for some = tests. XES=20 will run
WOLF at the 5 b/s rate tonight on 137.577 kHz, starting = around=20 2330 UTC.
Reports are welcome.

John Andrews,=20 W1TAG/WD2XES


------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C64D3F.486FC240-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198857620180555603 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b72e11e26633bf68013bded8968c66fba1f4f75d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs13818wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.183.14 with SMTP id k14mr359192qbp; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f17si1746794qba.2006.03.25.12.48.39; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFe5-0005Jz-FX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFe4-0005Jq-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:00 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNHHD-0003cf-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:30:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 1500 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2006 20:45:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.204.52 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2006 20:45:40 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:46:57 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <006b01c65030$fb621800$0b01a8c0@server> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.334,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Answers to antenna question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6504D.41BA9A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6141 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6504D.41BA9A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, JB, LF, Try and keep the top loading wires at least 4-6 feet away from the support towers, and make sure that the wires are taut and don't sway about in the breeze. You will find that the antenna is sharply tuned, and the tuning will vary as the wind blows! This also applies to bits of the antenna that you would think would be at the same potential, e.g. parellel multiple wire feed lines. If you want to increase the top-loading capacity...always a good thing... you can join the ends of the "legs" of the Y with further wires. This will allow you to reduce the size of the tuning coil and reduce your losses. If you do intend to transmit with this antenna, pay attention to the way you terminate the ends of the top wires. Try to avoid sharp points, and end the wires in loops to reduce corona effects. I get significant corona running 200W RF into a Tee with a 60m top, and it only gets worse as you turn up the wick. This can cause TVI...well it does for me! Lastly, if you are using a tuned loop nearby to receive, you will find that the vertical will play havoc with the polar diagram of the loop if it is tuned to the same frequency. I get round this by using a relay to open the earthy end of the coil when the vertical isn't in use. I'm not sure what the VE licensing regulations allow, but it can be fun to just put a couple of watts of RF into the antenna, to see how the whole thing tunes up. You don't need much, just 4 or 5 watts from an "audio" amp on 137 kHz is all you need. I can recommend Jim M0BMU's phase meter as a really useful means of detecting if your antenna is on tune, and you can watch the phase swing around when the wind blows! http://www.picks.plus.com/software/LFtunemeter.pdf 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of J. B. Weazle McCreath Sent: 25 March 2006 17:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Subject: LF: Answers to antenna question Hello Alan, Jay, Warren, et all, Thanks for your replies to my question concerning a "T" antenna. As you had suggested, I plan to use Dacron rope between the end insulators and the towers. The insulators are commercial ones that I "liberated" from a ship's HF antenna, so they should be fine for my application. I do intend to transmit at some time in the future, but for now the antenna will be used for receiving. The top loading will be three wires, one from each of the towers, converging at a common point midway between them, which by luck is also over a naturally wet area of my property. There will be a total length of 190 feet of horizontal top loading, the ends being slightly higher than the central common point. I plan on using a multiple rod grounding system at the feed point, along with tieing into the # 8 bonding ground wires interconnecting the three towers. Those bonding wires also connect to the mains grounds at both my house and the shop, about 100 feet apart, so I'm confident that I've got a pretty good ground system. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6504D.41BA9A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=20 JB, LF,
 
Try=20 and keep the top loading wires at least 4-6 feet away from the support = towers,=20 and make sure that the wires are taut and don't sway about in the = breeze. You=20 will find that the antenna is sharply tuned, and the tuning will vary as = the=20 wind blows! This also applies to bits of the antenna that you would = think would=20 be at the same potential, e.g. parellel multiple wire feed=20 lines.
 
If you=20 want to increase the top-loading capacity...always a good thing... you = can join=20 the ends of the "legs" of the Y with further wires. This will allow you = to=20 reduce the size of the tuning coil and reduce your losses.=20
 
If you=20 do intend to transmit with this antenna, pay attention to the way you = terminate=20 the ends of the top wires. Try to avoid sharp points, and end the wires = in loops=20 to reduce corona effects. I get significant corona running 200W RF into = a Tee=20 with a 60m top, and it only gets worse as you turn up the wick. This can = cause=20 TVI...well it does for me! 
 
Lastly, if you are using a tuned loop nearby to receive, you = will find=20 that the vertical will play havoc with the polar diagram of the = loop if it=20 is tuned to the same frequency. I get round this by using a relay to = open the=20 earthy end of the coil when the vertical isn't in = use.
 
I'm=20 not sure what the VE licensing regulations allow, but it can be fun to = just put=20 a couple of watts of RF into the antenna, to see how the whole thing = tunes up.=20 You don't need much, just 4 or 5 watts from an "audio" amp on 137 kHz is = all you=20 need. I can recommend Jim M0BMU's phase meter as a really useful means = of=20 detecting if your antenna is on tune, and you can watch the phase = swing=20 around when the wind blows!
 
http://www.pi= cks.plus.com/software/LFtunemeter.pdf
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of J. B. = Weazle=20 McCreath
Sent: 25 March 2006 17:24
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: = lowfer@lwca.org
Subject:=20 LF: Answers to antenna question

Hello Alan, Jay, Warren, et = all,
 
Thanks for your replies to my = question concerning=20 a "T" antenna.
As you had suggested, I plan to use = Dacron rope=20 between the
end insulators and the towers.  = The=20 insulators are commercial
ones that I "liberated" from a = ship's HF antenna, so they should
be fine for my application.  I = do intend to=20 transmit at some time
in the future, but for now the = antenna=20 will be used for receiving.
 
The top loading will be three wires, = one from=20 each of the towers,
converging at a common point midway = between them,=20 which by
luck is also over a = naturally wet area=20 of my property.  There will
be a total length of 190 feet of = horizontal top=20 loading, the ends
being slightly higher than the = central common=20 point.
 
I plan on using a multiple rod grounding system at the feed point,
along with tieing into the # 8 bonding ground wires=20 interconnecting
the three towers.  Those bonding = wires also=20 connect to the mains
grounds at both my house and the = shop, about 100=20 feet apart, so
I'm confident that I've got a pretty = good ground=20 system.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar = and wind=20 powered
EN93dr
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C6504D.41BA9A90-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198031933158202326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4a0e1a79a6b6748e90a667b7641f3e6cf099a270 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs25911wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.19.6 with SMTP id w6mr1812187ugi; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:20:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si1255330uge.2006.03.17.00.20.47; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKAA5-0001gP-G1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:18:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKAA5-0001gG-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:18:17 +0000 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKBk3-0005fE-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:59:49 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.19c.46a2bcc8 (57317) for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:14:04 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <19c.46a2bcc8.314bc9cc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:14:04 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.226,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Re: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1142583244" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6142 -------------------------------1142583244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 In a message dated 17/03/2006 07:34:35 GMT Standard Time, =20 uwe.wensauer@gmx.de writes: hello Dick, check this catalog see at www.reichelt.de ( Electronik- supplier near Wilhelmshaven ) may be thats usefull FT 240-77 o.D 61 mm =3D 24.90 =E2=82=AC uwe, dk1kq Cuxhaven =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Hi Dick / all. =20 I have the 58mm 3C90 toroids in available at 7.80 UK pounds or 11.70 Euros= =20 plus postage. =20 Thanks =20 David G0MRF -------------------------------1142583244 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
In a message dated 17/03/2006 07:34:35 GMT Standard Time,=20 uwe.wensauer@gmx.de writes:
hello Dick,

check this catalog

see at=20 www.reichelt.de  ( Electronik- supplier near Wilhelmshaven )

m= ay=20 be thats usefull FT 240-77  o.D 61 mm =3D 24.90 =E2=82=AC

uwe,= dk1kq=20 Cuxhaven
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20

Hi Dick / all.
 
I have the 58mm 3C90 toroids in available at 7.80 UK pounds =20= or=20 11.70 Euros plus postage.
 
Thanks
 
David   G0MRF
-------------------------------1142583244-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198031933158202326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 811dadc44c9d32823b4e0a8da02a118d20d74236 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs25495wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.224.14 with SMTP id w14mr1648096ugg; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:35:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1358893ugf.2006.03.16.23.35.40; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK9TR-0001GC-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:34:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK9TQ-0001G3-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:34:12 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKB3N-0005Pk-4v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:15:44 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Mar 2006 07:33:48 -0000 Received: from p54906016.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.96.22] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 08:33:48 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <000401c64995$32ceb480$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000401c648eb$8bba61c0$2102000a@ibm> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:34:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.283 Subject: LF: Re: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6143 hello Dick, check this catalog see at www.reichelt.de ( Electronik- supplier near Wilhelmshaven ) may be thats usefull FT 240-77 o.D 61 mm = 24.90 € uwe, dk1kq Cuxhaven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ > Hello ....... > > I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. > Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of > them............ > > Is there any other compagny that have these large cores available in lower > quantities?? > Preferable in Germany or the Netherlands. > > Maybe there is a alternative by using Epcos cores? Material N87?? or N30?? > Anyone?? > > 73 > > Dick , PA4VHF > > (I know about using TV-cores etc, but just wonder if there is a way to get > these nice ringcores) > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198031933158202326 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 963e08976da066f27f62b590a958e10503e78ce8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs13375wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.205.19 with SMTP id h19mr1253588qbq; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:04:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si1118304qbe.2006.03.16.10.04.29; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJwnJ-0004GL-2g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:01:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJwnI-0004GC-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:01:52 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.148] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJyN5-00082K-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:43:10 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.55) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F780004D928A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:59:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c64923$5d16b4d0$37e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000401c648eb$8bba61c0$2102000a@ibm> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:04:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.216 Subject: LF: Re: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6144 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ > Hello ....... > > I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. > Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of > them............ > > Is there any other compagny that have these large cores available in lower > quantities?? > Preferable in Germany or the Netherlands. > > Maybe there is a alternative by using Epcos cores? Material N87?? or N30?? > Anyone?? > > 73 > > Dick , PA4VHF > > (I know about using TV-cores etc, but just wonder if there is a way to get > these nice ringcores) > > >Dick The beauty of TV cores they are usually free of charge. I have >substitued these cores instead of 3C85 and cannot tell any difference in >efficiency. The tv cores need to be clean and smooth when joined and held >very tight together to work properly. The two halves neeed to be clamped together not just held together with a pice of string!!! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197472728310412524 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fb59bdda3c4d27e921ff0b538d3b2456453607bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs22625wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.8 with SMTP id o8mr1419391qbb; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:26:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si414640qba.2006.03.10.06.26.39; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHiXJ-0001JJ-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:24:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHiXI-0001JA-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:24:08 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHjXB-0001Ot-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:28:06 +0000 Received: from holywell.demon.co.uk ([80.177.210.169]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1FHiXF-000OAt-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:24:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:23:30 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Les Thompson References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> <44118A0B.1080707@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44118A0B.1080707@ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.05-U () X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: History of 160m Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6145 In article <44118A0B.1080707@ukonline.co.uk>, Peter Dodd writes >Les Thompson wrote: > >I have a vague memory that Stew had an arrangement with the US Coast > >> Guard to allow him a noise free slot for some of his record attempts. >> >> Could be an urban myth though but it's going to bug me now until I >> have a read through my old RSGB Bulls. > >Hi Les >Type in W1BB into Google and you will find enough reading in 'History >of 160m' by W1BB, to last you all evening. >He had to contend with Loran like we have to on 136kHz so the above is >a myth. > Thanks Peter, I'm already ploughing my way through that with some difficulty, what a remarkable man Stew was and although he mentioned Loran in his articles he didn't let it put him off. -- Les G8ARF / G3VYZ / RSARS 173 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197472728310412524 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: aa35f03b860e22de5a7d2526f4e87914f9a7205d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21786wra; 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Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:52:42 +0000 Message-ID: <44118A0B.1080707@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:15:39 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.547,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: History of 160m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6146 Les Thompson wrote: I have a vague memory that Stew had an arrangement with the US Coast > Guard to allow him a noise free slot for some of his record attempts. > > Could be an urban myth though but it's going to bug me now until I > have a read through my old RSGB Bulls. Hi Les Type in W1BB into Google and you will find enough reading in 'History of 160m' by W1BB, to last you all evening. He had to contend with Loran like we have to on 136kHz so the above is a myth. Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196869335825308624 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b64bdff7588159642253876c23a24be4b40f1f5a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs35856wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.245.7 with SMTP id s7mr1408460ugh; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:05:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si2943196uge.2006.03.03.14.05.44; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFINK-0006ZT-GH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:03:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFINK-0006ZK-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:03:50 +0000 Received: from ncc7.infomail.es ([195.235.39.18] helo=infomail.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFJsG-0006cx-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:40:10 +0000 Received: from joan ([172.16.101.246]) by infomail.es (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #1141423215.220510001; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:00:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> From: "Joan Morros" To: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:00:18 +0100 Organization: lleida.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-imss-version: 2.038 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:10.22774 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Infomail-Id: 1141423215.5623010A81105E.43215 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY=0.061,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML=0.031 Subject: LF: tonight Madrid on the air Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63F16.3D8A1DD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6148 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63F16.3D8A1DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi EA4BVZ will run dot30 on 136.399 kHz tonight and tomorrow. Reports are welcome. Good signal in JN01HO, 17 dB over noise. Juan, EA3FXF _____________________________________________________________________ Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63F16.3D8A1DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
 
EA4BVZ will run dot30 on 136.399 kHz= tonight and=0D tomorrow.
 
Reports are welcome.
 
Good signal in JN01HO, 17 dB over=0D noise.
 
Juan, EA3FXF
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63F16.3D8A1DD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197650510741012144 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a9b5102768a969ff0f172a12566b52258765a582 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs49353wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.19 with SMTP id x19mr1752189ugg; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:02:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q1si717290uge.2006.03.12.05.02.11; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIQAU-0001oL-N4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:59:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIQAU-0001oC-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:59:30 +0000 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIRBK-0001nO-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:04:26 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4C2CB7000098 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:59:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-92.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-92.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.92]) by mwinf1412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93DF1700008B for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:59:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060312125922605.93DF1700008B@mwinf1412.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:58:16 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000901c645ca$9da22f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <246831740.20060312095633@t-online.de> <000901c645ca$9da22f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.081,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Traces of XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6149 Fm abt 0340 till 0425 Z 73 Jay and all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197740565627058651 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dc1d62908c3b472f160b278771528c0af6710ef6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1128wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.47.5 with SMTP id u5mr439344wxu; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i14si5644557wxd.2006.03.13.07.21.29; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIok7-00059l-Tt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:13:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIok7-00059c-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:13:55 +0000 Received: from smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.230] helo=smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIplT-0001b7-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:19:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 18967 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2006 14:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2006 14:47:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4415879B.8020601@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:54:19 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> <003a01c64697$782a9360$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <001c01c6469c$a3f32020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <001c01c6469c$a3f32020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6150 Jean-Pierre, et al, My log shows receptions of WD2XES from last summer: 16 Jun by CT1DRP 20 and 21 Jun by Hartmut 05 Jul by Hartmut and G3AQC 06 Jul by Hartmut, G3AQC and DF6NM 07 Jul by Hartmut, G3AQC and CT1DRP 08 Jul by Hartmut 09 Jul by G3AQC 25 Jul by Hartmut 26 Jul by Hartmut and G3NYK 27 Jul by Hartmut There are also 7 reports in August from Hartmut. Since solar and geomagnetic activity should be low this year, we should expect similar or better results. Also, WD2XGJ and WD2XNS will be running with higher power than I was last summer. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197740565627058651 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0f066475468ee5621eae991779c41ac5aa38039f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs64946wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.179.20 with SMTP id b20mr2010055qbf; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:53:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si2381413qbe.2006.03.13.04.53.33; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FImVr-0004l4-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:51:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FImVr-0004kv-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:51:03 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIo4O-0003mV-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:31:06 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060313125000m11001kqspe>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:50:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c6469c$a3f32020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> <003a01c64697$782a9360$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:49:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.077 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6151 Jean-Pierre Great! Glad to hear you're going to monitor for a while longer. Came close to a capture of CT1DRP last June...but not quite enough for an ID...July and August are pretty tough with the large number of Tstorms here. WD2XGJ puts a consistently big signal into EU (especially when running the Decca)...so you might see him on the rare, quiet, mid summer night. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M�r�" To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA last night Hello Alan and Jay , Thank for your comment ! Yes ! if I understand well, I am wrong to stop my night recordings! (it is the opposite of what I could read) I am young in LF (first winter) On your councils I will continue. 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Hi Jean Pierre, whats all this about a "season " for LF DX ?? This seems to be an enduring myth. The only thing is that the storm noise makes it more uncomfortable to listen in summer, but on quiet nights there are just as good a signals available, though not for as long, as in winter. In fact if we are to believe the pundits the Spring Equinox is supposed to be the best period of the year. I am not personally convinced of that because it depends much more on the state of geomagnetic activity. Over the next twelve months as we pass through the solar minimum the LF propagation conditions should remain quite good, exceppt for the shorter nights and thunderstorm QRM. 73 de Alan G3NYK www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/lastest.htm for my Propagation report. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197306579731541844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8b22a1cc93110077416d9868cf5a533a73c6b5db Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs25978wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.236.3 with SMTP id n3mr539083qbr; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:55:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si387674qbq.2006.03.08.09.55.32; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH2pv-0004RO-JD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:52:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH2pv-0004RF-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:52:35 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH4Mh-0005Sq-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:30:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 88238 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 17:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.70.251 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 17:51:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:51:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Real QRP tests Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6152 >From G3PLX: If there's anyone within about 500km from me at 54N 3W (i.e. daytime surface wave range) who could transmit a few micro-watts of very stable (preferably GPS-derived) carrier on 136kHz, I would like to run some tests with my new GPS-locked reception scheme to see how low we can go and still detect that there's something there. It may take some time to detect the signal, but with that sort of low power there shouldn't be too much problem with leaving the transmitter on for a day. A quick calculation says that 25mA r.m.s. of antenna current into an average antenna should produce plenty enough signal. That's only 150v rms or so, depending on the antenna. The more stable is the signal, the lower down I should be able to detect it. Any one for QRPP? 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196865316753720342 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: be673fe3accc3961705c4ce4ae3999772f260c62 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs35110wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.23.20 with SMTP id a20mr1275053ugj; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q1si62048uge.2006.03.03.13.01.52; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFHLG-0006B5-HD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:57:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFHLG-0006Aw-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:57:38 +0000 Received: from smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFIqC-00069a-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 9717 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2006 20:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2006 20:56:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4408AEE0.2030202@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:02:24 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: XES WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6153 WD2XES will run WOLF (standard 10 b/s speed) on 137.577 kHz tonight, starting around 2230 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198351146848578074 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 44d29037257f76f24d71cd4e548ec6b28d4742d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7521wrc; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.27.9 with SMTP id a9mr144638qba; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si4633389qbe.2006.03.19.22.38.29; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLDwh-0007xW-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:32:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLDwh-0007xN-Bv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:32:51 +0000 Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLFXo-0004AS-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:15:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1008.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0B8D2800141 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:32:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-161.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-161.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.161]) by mwinf1008.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0A57B2800147 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:32:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060320063228424.0A57B2800147@mwinf1008.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:31:13 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.974 Subject: LF: TA = 0 last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=WORK_AT_HOME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6154 Nothing received here last night, sorry... My friends, I shall leave my station for 5-6 days because of my work far from home this week, but the machines continue to operate receiving between 137.776 and 137.782 kHz, so the next report will be on saturday 25th. Wish you a good week. Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 81de4d9011438da88be633d1f18b7424d37912ea Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs28458wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.191.12 with SMTP id t12mr400290qbp; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si301275qbe.2006.03.20.20.35.13; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLYYs-00030Y-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:33:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLYYr-00030P-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:33:37 +0000 Received: from f1phy.netins.net ([167.142.228.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLZdt-0008Ou-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:42:55 +0000 X-netINS-McAfee: scanned Received: from [167.142.32.126] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 914333109; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:32 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: Cc: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:18 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01c64ca0$97299180$6501a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20060321052022.036887c0@popper.forthnet.gr> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: RE: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6155 Good evening de EN31do. A.k.a., Des Moines, Iowa, USA area! Very interesting reminiscences! I have quite a few tube manuals, both receiving and industrial, and started in broadcasting in 1952. If memory serves correctly, there was a tube type 42 that was also a = beam power tube, one of many to be sure but the 42 is an older one. I'm about = to "sign off" for the night or I would go check it out. I remember seeing an aeronautical HF transmitter using three 6V6s and a 6SJY. The 6V6s were for the crystal controlled oscillator, power = amplifier, and modulator with the 6SJ7 as a speech amplifier. I think it was made = by Bendix. The 6V6 was a smaller version of the 6L6. The 6L6 came regularly in both glass and metal but it was quite rare to find a 6V6 metal version. I did come across one or two and I think I replaced the glass one in my olde = Globe King with the metal tube. The industrial version of a 6L6 was a type = 1622. In those days when I was the chief (usually pronounce that "only") = engineer I used the industrial versions for all the tubes I could and had very = few failures and cleaner tests. Examples: 12AX7 was 7025, 12AU7 was 5814, = and off the top of my head those are only a couple of the many equivalents, The 2E26 was, I believe, developed for FM broadcast band transmitters. = It is a smaller version of the 6146. Both of these were great tubes. Popular power tubes for VHF and some low UHF were the 832-A and the = larger 829-B. These "bottles" had two (2) power tetrodes in one envelops. Oh - my first 175 KHz transmitter, ca. 1965 or so used a 12AT7, 9 pin = twin triode, as a VCO and "power" amp. This was replete with a 12AX7 into = 6V6-GT modulator. GN ES 73 Doc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Costas Krallis SV1XV Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 21:46 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG At 20:41 20/3/2006 +0000, you wrote: > I think what Costas was getting at is that the 6L6 > was the grand daddy of all beam power tetrodes including > the 807, 6146 etc. Yes the 807 has higher voltage and > frequency rating than the 6L6 but both valves share > a common architecture. Yes, this is the meaning of my posting. In addition, 6L6 and 807 have the same design approach with long internal wires etc. 6146 was designed as an RF amplifier and is much more compact. Regarding power levels, the 6 W stated for 6L6 is for class A audio. You can get much more from a class C circuit. Maximum plate dissipation is 30 W maximum for 6L6CG. Strangely, 807W is rated at 25 W and 6146B at 20W. The data is from Sylvania. Of course at 30 W dissipation a 6L6 would not last long! 1987 ARRL handbook rates 6146 at 25 W max plate dissipation. My first HF transmitter had a 6L6 delivering 15-20 W CW on 7 and 10 MHz. Regards,=20 Costas +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Costas Krallis SV1XV * LOC KM18UA | | P.O.Box 3066 * E-Mail: | | GR-10210 Athens * PGP key: 0xEF65B04B | | GREECE * http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/ | +------------------------------------------------------------+ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4e120a0454aac66dee042f7ebf9d7344c1d7564b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs27980wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.141.2 with SMTP id t2mr352672qbn; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:53:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si1333581qba.2006.03.20.19.53.05; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLXq6-0002ky-F2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:47:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLXq6-0002kp-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:47:22 +0000 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.104] helo=mx-out-04.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLZRU-00048q-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:30:22 +0000 Received: from mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2L3kx1a030472 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:46:59 +0200 Received: from mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2L3kxZk009862 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:46:59 +0200 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp10-6.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.153.6]) by mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2L3kvXr031725 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:46:58 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-02.forthnet.gr from=kkrallis@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20060321052022.036887c0@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:46:17 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <032020062041.10662.441F1383000DAE35000029A622007340760B970 10D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.319,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6156 At 20:41 20/3/2006 +0000, you wrote: > I think what Costas was getting at is that the 6L6 > was the grand daddy of all beam power tetrodes including > the 807, 6146 etc. Yes the 807 has higher voltage and > frequency rating than the 6L6 but both valves share > a common architecture. Yes, this is the meaning of my posting. In addition, 6L6 and 807 have the same design approach with long internal wires etc. 6146 was designed as an RF amplifier and is much more compact. Regarding power levels, the 6 W stated for 6L6 is for class A audio. You can get much more from a class C circuit. Maximum plate dissipation is 30 W maximum for 6L6CG. Strangely, 807W is rated at 25 W and 6146B at 20W. The data is from Sylvania. Of course at 30 W dissipation a 6L6 would not last long! 1987 ARRL handbook rates 6146 at 25 W max plate dissipation. My first HF transmitter had a 6L6 delivering 15-20 W CW on 7 and 10 MHz. Regards, Costas +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Costas Krallis SV1XV * LOC KM18UA | | P.O.Box 3066 * E-Mail: | | GR-10210 Athens * PGP key: 0xEF65B04B | | GREECE * http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/ | +------------------------------------------------------------+ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 136009f2690d5de34d35bfca3a9fa90b035c7760 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs21541wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.240.19 with SMTP id s19mr600268qbr; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:44:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si1502243qba.2006.03.20.12.44.29; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLRCc-0001ym-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:42:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLRCc-0001yd-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:42:10 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLSns-0001to-Gt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:25:04 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter07.comcast.net ([204.127.197.117]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060320204141m1100cahdte>; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:41:41 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter07.comcast.net; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:41:40 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "John RABSON" Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:41:40 +0000 Message-Id: <032020062041.10662.441F1383000DAE35000029A622007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.917 Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6157 Hi Jason, I think what Costas was getting at is that the 6L6 was the grand daddy of all beam power tetrodes including the 807, 6146 etc. Yes the 807 has higher voltage and frequency rating than the 6L6 but both valves share a common architecture. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John RABSON" > >Yes, the 807 is more-or-less an 6L6 with different > >connections. > > > >Costas SV1XV > > I'm not sure I agree with this. My Wireless World valve data book from the late > 1950s describes the 6L6 as an (audio) output beam tetrode rated for 300V on the > anode, 200V on the screen, and delivering about 6W output. > > The same book quotes the 807 as accepting up to 600V on the anode, 250V on the > screen and being able to deliver up to 40W RF at up to 60MHz. > > I recall reading in the RSGB Bulletin of old-timer who ran 110W to a single 807 > using on-off keying and with 1kV on the anode. He said the important thing was > to keep the screen dissipation low. I am not sure a 6L6 would do as well. > > 73, > John G3PAI > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dfd526cc73144f424487ac0aba0c47836d1f2bfd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs21340wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.237.14 with SMTP id o14mr1335614qbr; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si2699077qba.2006.03.20.12.36.03; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLR4M-0001sW-72 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:33:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLR4L-0001sN-Rr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:33:37 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLSfg-0001pt-Nz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:16:31 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0302.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1F4951C00B19 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:33:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-4-118.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.233.118]) by mwinf0302.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E2531C00B25 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:33:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060320203306320.4E2531C00B25@mwinf0302.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603202132520655.075C5FBF@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20060320174016.0369c470@popper.forthnet.gr> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20060320174016.0369c470@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:32:52 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.975 Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6158 >Yes, the 807 is more-or-less an 6L6 with different >connections. > >Costas SV1XV I'm not sure I agree with this. My Wireless World valve data book from the= late 1950s describes the 6L6 as an (audio) output beam tetrode rated for= 300V on the anode, 200V on the screen, and delivering about 6W output. The same book quotes the 807 as accepting up to 600V on the anode, 250V on= the screen and being able to deliver up to 40W RF at up to 60MHz. I recall reading in the RSGB Bulletin of old-timer who ran 110W to a single= 807 using on-off keying and with 1kV on the anode. He said the important= thing was to keep the screen dissipation low. I am not sure a 6L6 would= do as well. 73, John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ea16a6c025814117b5c4bcd7d636a82aa39a5eca Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14980wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.27.9 with SMTP id a9mr473799qba; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si3927426qbd.2006.03.20.07.45.31; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMXa-0000uD-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:43:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMXZ-0000u4-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:43:29 +0000 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.104] helo=mx-out-01.forthnet.gr) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLNcL-0005Sl-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:52:31 +0000 Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2KFhO0L031449 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:43:24 +0200 Received: from mx-in-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2KFhOBn001210 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:43:24 +0200 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp7-125.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.150.125]) by mx-in-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2KFhMpZ020423 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:43:23 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-01.forthnet.gr from=kkrallis@ath.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20060320174016.0369c470@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:42:43 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <032020061220.17592.441E9E1A000F3F5E000044B822092299270B970 10D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6159 At 12:20 20/3/2006 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Walter, > > Thanks for the info. Interesting circuit line up. My guess is that its a class-C P.A. > >> It's a very old tube-type device designed ca. 1960. >> Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's (later models 6146's) > > The 807 predates the 6146 by about 20 years, so in fact it's a much earlier model than the 6146. Yes, the 807 is more-or-less an 6L6 with different connections. Costas SV1XV +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Costas Krallis SV1XV * LOC KM18UA | | P.O.Box 3066 * E-Mail: | | GR-10210 Athens * PGP key: 0xEF65B04B | | GREECE * http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/ | +------------------------------------------------------------+ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3c029282fad6f32790647caf8835bdb0e759ad1e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs11328wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.59.19 with SMTP id m19mr318058qbk; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:23:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si935858qba.2006.03.20.04.23.26; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLJNn-0000SU-FF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:21:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLJNn-0000SL-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:21:11 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLKyu-0006ix-O7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:03:57 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060320122043m13005k3aoe>; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:20:43 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:20:43 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:20:43 +0000 Message-Id: <032020061220.17592.441E9E1A000F3F5E000044B822092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.044,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505,RISK_FREE=0.247 Subject: Re: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART,RISK_FREE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6160 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Walter, Thanks for the info. Interesting circuit line up. My guess is that its a class-C P.A. > It's a very old tube-type device designed ca. 1960. > Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's (later models 6146's) The 807 predates the 6146 by about 20 years, so in fact it's a much earlier model than the 6146. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Walter Blanchard" > Re Decca 1615 SG > > It's a very old tube-type device designed ca. 1960. > Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's (later models 6146's) > No risk of blowing up FET's with this one but doubt > if the transformer design would be relevant to FET's. > No ccts but the guy who designed it tells me it was > purposely designed to work into all sorts of mismatchs, > shorts, etc so it could be used for lining up new antennas > of possibly unknown characteristics. It worked so well > they never bothered updating it to solid-state and it > was still current in 1995. > It's what I'm using to put out the test signal for Peter > G3PLX. > > Walter G3JKV. > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Subject: LF: Decca SG Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:43:46 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Re Decca 1615 SG
 
It's a very old tube-type device = designed ca.=20 1960.
Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's = (later=20 models 6146's)
No risk of blowing up FET's with this = one but=20 doubt
if the transformer design would be = relevant to=20 FET's.
No ccts but the guy who designed=20 it tells me it was =
purposely designed to work into all = sorts of=20 mismatchs,
shorts, etc so it could be used for = lining up new=20 antennas
of possibly unknown = characteristics. It=20 worked so well
they never bothered updating it to = solid-state and=20 it
was still current in = 1995.
It's what I'm using to put = out the test=20 signal for Peter
G3PLX.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
  
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17592_1142857243_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198355290992054187 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cd76fa07c0f230686acbdf28623b702925470f11 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8361wrc; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.193.6 with SMTP id v6mr1357668qbp; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:44:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si4477852qbe.2006.03.19.23.44.21; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLF2D-00088E-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:42:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLF2D-000885-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:42:37 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLGdL-0004QH-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:25:18 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-26-86.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.26.86] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2K7fOmD012403 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:41:25 GMT Message-ID: <004c01c64bf1$84c655f0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:40:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.852,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RISK_FREE=0.247 Subject: LF: Decca SG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C64BF1.8137B0F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RISK_FREE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6161 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C64BF1.8137B0F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re Decca 1615 SG It's a very old tube-type device designed ca. 1960. Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's (later models 6146's) No risk of blowing up FET's with this one but doubt=20 if the transformer design would be relevant to FET's. No ccts but the guy who designed it tells me it was=20 purposely designed to work into all sorts of mismatchs,=20 shorts, etc so it could be used for lining up new antennas of possibly unknown characteristics. It worked so well they never bothered updating it to solid-state and it=20 was still current in 1995. It's what I'm using to put out the test signal for Peter G3PLX. Walter G3JKV. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C64BF1.8137B0F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Re Decca 1615 SG
 
It's a very old tube-type device = designed ca.=20 1960.
Tube line-up 6AM5, 12AX7, two 807's = (later=20 models 6146's)
No risk of blowing up FET's with this = one but=20 doubt
if the transformer design would be = relevant to=20 FET's.
No ccts but the guy who designed=20 it tells me it was =
purposely designed to work into all = sorts of=20 mismatchs,
shorts, etc so it could be used for = lining up new=20 antennas
of possibly unknown = characteristics. It=20 worked so well
they never bothered updating it to = solid-state and=20 it
was still current in = 1995.
It's what I'm using to put = out the test=20 signal for Peter
G3PLX.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
  
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C64BF1.8137B0F0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197635272867764450 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0d28799da363779d9bebd601283f8166da120e4d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs52872wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.251.20 with SMTP id d20mr1748891qbs; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:23:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si2174871qba.2006.03.12.11.23.01; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIW7V-0002XU-Of for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIW7V-0002XL-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:49 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIX8R-0003qS-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:25:53 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060312192034m13001roaoe>; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:39 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:33 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:33 +0000 Message-Id: <031220061920.9430.441474810005580C000024D622007507440B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.191,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 11/12 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6162 Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the capture of the one and only "XGJ" string last night. Conditions did not seem so good as I looked at the online grabbers so I decided to save some electricity. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Poor T/A conditions last night. Good copy of 1 "XGJ" string, nothing > more seen from Warren. Traces of XES were visible the whole night. But > only weak copy of 2 "XES" strings. About 23:00 and 02:20 there were > faint traces on 137.781 but nothing readable. > > A capture 03:00-06:00 can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197635272867764450 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3c16d85bbdabe01a1fa6239acfa5076a3da47203 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs47585wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.53.12 with SMTP id b12mr362119qba; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:00:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si2021158qba.2006.03.12.00.59.58; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIMOT-0001KY-O5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:57:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIMOT-0001KP-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:57:41 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FINPC-0000kZ-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:02:32 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FIMNS-0004Ft-01; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:56:38 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XHiEzZZfoe5UM0p3Mzs8Ng5hFtNVMReb+UkkLWhxTl97TqttaEKI8h@[84.133.93.247]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FIMNQ-056mLA0; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:56:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:56:33 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <246831740.20060312095633@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XHiEzZZfoe5UM0p3Mzs8Ng5hFtNVMReb+UkkLWhxTl97TqttaEKI8h X-TOI-MSGID: fa06af26-76cb-4b11-b3c7-971090a16b5c X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.238,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 11/12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6163 Poor T/A conditions last night. Good copy of 1 "XGJ" string, nothing more seen from Warren. Traces of XES were visible the whole night. But only weak copy of 2 "XES" strings. About 23:00 and 02:20 there were faint traces on 137.781 but nothing readable. A capture 03:00-06:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198678519993225673 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a42cce2a6299a9d3ca340382d6933814eba507d8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs19842wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.150.5 with SMTP id c5mr115398qbo; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si911541qbe.2006.03.23.13.21.54; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMXD7-0006ij-6Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:19:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMXD6-0006ia-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:19:12 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMYpX-0002cu-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:03:17 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FMXCo-0005RN-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:18:54 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TDojMmZUoeSdDpl09+kXIla9rYVN1x4W9OdxC5g6DTGSznzntvzzrN@[84.133.96.145]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FMXCg-1hWeeW0; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:18:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:18:46 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <227341207.20060323221846@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TDojMmZUoeSdDpl09+kXIla9rYVN1x4W9OdxC5g6DTGSznzntvzzrN X-TOI-MSGID: 5113abd8-d54a-4c47-9d42-e3de0915c6a5 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.071 Subject: LF: UNID signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6164 The past week I captured an UNID signal 137.7-137.78kHz. It looked like a big sawtooth. I first thought it had a local source, best reception was from the west. Now I found this signal on the NL9222 grabber: http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm Does anybody knows the source of this signal? 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198113175222495339 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 36cd34947eb59542d241b7e375b6fefcb1844f1c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs1902wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.11.13 with SMTP id o13mr267472qbi; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si970809qbe.2006.03.17.07.36.02; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKGwV-0004Ck-BL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:32:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKGwV-0004Cb-0N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:32:43 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKIWa-0001Ui-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:14:22 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FKGwC-0006we-03; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:32:24 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GzzveaZbZeOYvJnbSnVqXNBqeOoJyY19+ReB6jitQyOKHKKKdiazZ3@[84.133.116.191]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FKGvx-0dPldg0; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:32:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:32:04 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GzzveaZbZeOYvJnbSnVqXNBqeOoJyY19+ReB6jitQyOKHKKKdiazZ3 X-TOI-MSGID: dfc3c797-a0c8-47b1-91bf-84e997508894 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.193 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 16/17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6165 Copied XGJ, XKO and XNS. Fade out of XGJ and XNS just before 08:00. Local sunrise was 05:27. Captures 01:30-08:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196738841981498949 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 53d2f161c202fa9c7f879bd7a85adc5df3a0f66d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6626wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.2 with SMTP id r2mr303194ugh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:31:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40si1061118ugc.2006.03.02.03.31.36; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEm0A-0003TN-0h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:29:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEm09-0003TE-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:29:45 +0000 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEnUb-0004mJ-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:05:32 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E37D51C00201 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:29:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-35.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-35.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.35]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 361D11C001F8 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:29:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060302112924221.361D11C001F8@mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:28:28 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000a01c63d7a$170d9b70$0d00a8c0@oz7qcdell> Message-ID: References: <000a01c63d7a$170d9b70$0d00a8c0@oz7qcdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.021,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6166 And here only NA too... from 0215 to 0600 UTC, sometime traces only, poor conditions. Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196815080820855952 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8bc94ab2df878c4e9f31a9360aa0cd2f48736c3b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs22882wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.244.5 with SMTP id r5mr595326nfh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:43:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1si2188990nfe.2006.03.02.23.43.23; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FF4uv-0003HP-36 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 07:41:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FF4up-0003HG-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 07:41:31 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FF5r9-00065s-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:41:49 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C85BD185F7 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:41:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c63e95$e1545f10$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:41:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.058,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C63E9E.42D862B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6168 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C63E9E.42D862B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all , on the list ! The last night nothing here of the TA beacon ! nil ! nil ! nil ! I will look at if my receiver still functions ? 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C63E9E.42D862B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all , = on the list=20 !
 
The last night nothing here of the TA = beacon ! nil=20 ! nil ! nil !
I will = look at if my=20 receiver still functions ?
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj=20 JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C63E9E.42D862B0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197719151677167195 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a430739abb9bf9d0cfebbe947c5b9b488dc0bb46 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs60410wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.11 with SMTP id o11mr429661qbb; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:13:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si464990qbe.2006.03.12.23.13.12; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIhAd-0003sv-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:08:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIhAa-0003sm-Gu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:08:44 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIij3-0000bd-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:48:42 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EE4226C83 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:08:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:08:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.014,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C64675.4CF23EE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6169 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C64675.4CF23EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list , Nothing this night !=20 Season LF is very advanced, I stop my recordings of night. Thank you at :=20 Jay , Warren , John , Dex , Joe , Laurence , Brian=20 for their beacons ! Thank you at all =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C64675.4CF23EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all on the list ,
 
Nothing this night !
Season LF is very advanced,
I stop my recordings of night.
Thank you at = : 
Jay , Warren , John , Dex , Joe , Laurence , = Brian=20
for their beacons !
Thank you at all=20
 
 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj=20 JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C64675.4CF23EE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197008317723205800 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1c851829382df9be76416cc2f30c4be6dd2f265d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59557wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 02:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.87.18 with SMTP id p18mr2243754ugl; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:54:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si4467326ugf.2006.03.05.02.54.48; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFqrk-00061b-Dn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFqrk-00061S-3N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:53:32 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFsNJ-000488-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:30:28 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.2e3.35b3152 (4552) for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 05:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2e3.35b3152.313c1d14@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 05:53:08 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=0.108,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_40_50=0.035,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: LF: TA Mar 4/5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2e3.35b3152.313c1d14_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6170 --part1_2e3.35b3152.313c1d14_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Joe, Dexter, John, Warren, Jay, five beautiful, bright blue signals on the screen this morning, all "O". Capture copied to http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603050600.gif (278 kB). 73 de Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK --part1_2e3.35b3152.313c1d14_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Joe, Dexter, John, Warren, Jay= ,

five beautiful, bright blue signals on the screen this morning, all "O". Cap= ture copied to http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603050600.gif (27= 8 kB).

73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK --part1_2e3.35b3152.313c1d14_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197402066396974968 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f7e0e1a729578cc03223478a4198f4a937f57388 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10463wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.236.2 with SMTP id n2mr1292078qbr; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si996446qbd.2006.03.09.11.13.16; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHQWe-0002nJ-JR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:10:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHQWe-0002nA-8N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:10:16 +0000 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHS3m-0000We-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:48:53 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20060309190944.XOPZ170.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:09:44 +1300 Received: from web1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.86.234]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20060309190943.RRPO16143.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@web1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:09:43 +1300 Received: from mikes ([210.86.86.234]) by web1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail vG.2.00.00.00 201-2161-108-101-20050407) with SMTP id <20060309190943.TKPY420.web1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mikes> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:09:43 +1300 Message-ID: <000801c643ad$055ef430$0301010a@mikes> From: "McAlevey" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:09:38 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Galloping Horses Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6171 Just for interest, the horses don't gallop down this way. They just make a loud clattering noise which is only heard at night on 100kHz and a few kHz either side. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197132015361563243 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0f8568e1155d10ffff2ef4eb6a7feaf4834eead7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs77850wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.41.4 with SMTP id t4mr2631992nfj; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:11:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si1721065nfc.2006.03.06.13.11.13; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGMxB-0003Ul-AK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:09:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGMxA-0003Uc-SQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:09:16 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGNvF-0002GT-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:11:22 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k26L9EX2002528 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:09:14 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k26L9Ej1021398 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:09:14 +0100 Received: from i577a4325.versanet.de (i577a4325.versanet.de [87.122.67.37]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:09:14 +0100 Message-ID: <20060306220914.jy20g43rryg4w0ss@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:09:14 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.235,BAYES_00=-2.599,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Signal 136.330KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6172 Zitat von Gary - G4WGT : > Now with screen shot > > 73 > > Gary. > Hi Gary, nice screenshot. the text is "push pull test dj8wx" in JASON mode, but long dashes too. with 120mW EMRP on the air. 20 - 30cm snow on the ground detunes the aerial= , so the PA is regulated to 200W only. in some hours I=B4ll be testing the PA in some other modes. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197132015361563243 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e5b5965098e5f108d14cf81984f126c478d41b62 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs76964wra; 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Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:50:11 -0700 Received: from 204.174.12.18 ( [204.174.12.18]) as user sthed475@192.168.200.1 by webmail.telus.net with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:50:11 -0800 Message-ID: <1141674611.440c92730db9f@webmail.telus.net> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:50:11 -0800 From: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 204.174.12.18 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Signal 136.330KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6173 Gary Looks like JASON See www.weaksignals.com for the decoding software. Scott Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > Now with screen shot > > 73 > > Gary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 06 March 2006 19:26 > To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) > Subject: LF: Signal 136.330KHz > > > Hi All, > > What is the signal near 136.330KHz? > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197132015361563243 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2cddcbf3de2d69f1184962c49f307163c1e0ab9f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs76774wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.7 with SMTP id n7mr1644256ugi; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:40:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si4749403uge.2006.03.06.11.40.55; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGLXF-00034o-PY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:38:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGLXF-00034f-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:38:25 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGMVG-0001hH-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:40:28 +0000 Received: from 88-106-128-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.128.173]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2006 19:38:04 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CALoYDESHZiw Received: from 88-106-128-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.128.173]:3173 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FGLWm-000ID3-TW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:37:56 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.047,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: RE: Signal 136.330KHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C64155.79F2D1E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6174 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C64155.79F2D1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now with screen shot 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 06 March 2006 19:26 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: Signal 136.330KHz Hi All, What is the signal near 136.330KHz? 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X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.089,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: conditions in Borneo dusk Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6175 NPG, west coast USA is stronger tonight - listening in argo 30 slow windows 137.775 to 137.783 for Americas and 136.315 to 136.321 for the rest of the world. Fixed the epobe which included an intermittent in the coax and water proofed the other connection. The eprobe is back in my favorite acacia tree about 15 ft agl and 100m from the sea, and about 5m from a narrow lagoon. Earthing the end of the vertical lead and adding a 2.5mH isolatiing transformer between the 706 and the L400b injection point has really improved the noise situation and Loran is clearly audible at good strength during the day. Laurence OJ86, Karambunai, Sabah, Borneo From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197481011217875617 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 396e7c3a944e9aac7fd14171dbc174d7a8562985 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24489wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.73.20 with SMTP id a20mr733457qbl; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:08:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si1734185qbc.2006.03.10.08.08.03; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHk61-0001tg-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:04:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHk61-0001tX-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:04:05 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHldU-000392-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:43:02 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FHk5h-00083Z-06; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:03:45 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bVAh6+ZT8eiQJWVIe69Gh2NG9X7jzZpJVePvUe4FVVmDHX+f1B916+@[84.133.101.184]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FHk5V-1IlyhU0; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:03:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:03:29 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11610402978.20060310170329@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bVAh6+ZT8eiQJWVIe69Gh2NG9X7jzZpJVePvUe4FVVmDHX+f1B916+ X-TOI-MSGID: dd061392-69f2-428b-acaa-7d8b1bbace37 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.073,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 9/10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6177 Copied NA, XES, XGJ and XNS. It seems Warren was sending one "XGJ" string overnight, only. Captures 22:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197766215933385449 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e6c9838956a0775c5f609c539bdcfc0f292dd7bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs5530wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.49.20 with SMTP id b20mr439699nfk; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:41:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si949056nfa.2006.03.13.11.41.16; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIss5-00067H-32 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:38:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIss4-000678-O1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:38:24 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIuQm-00085g-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:18:35 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FIsro-0000aU-05; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:38:08 +0100 Received: from HW1 (r43cpgZvoeqv5e-D6ZyffDyeFD3B-fR0GShJS-WxOaG0jDONcY5b6v@[84.133.122.201]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FIsrd-0sbrCC0; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:37:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:37:54 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <135311800.20060313203754@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r43cpgZvoeqv5e-D6ZyffDyeFD3B-fR0GShJS-WxOaG0jDONcY5b6v X-TOI-MSGID: 6811c4b5-9465-41ec-a3f4-78546b6d9a56 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.227 Subject: LF: UA4WPF calling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6178 UA4WPF was calling near 137.760 kHz 19:00-19:10 UTC in QRSS3. "O" copy here. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196918722516682136 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e46f6a9a2d9083ba6224c2668d5b071ad93d9ab7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs48124wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 03:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr1788976uge; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:10:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si3518225uge.2006.03.04.03.10.43; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFUbf-0000Cf-P7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:07:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFUbf-0000CW-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:07:27 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFW6q-0004gT-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:44:00 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.1a1.46696a90 (58435) for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1a1.46696a90.313aced2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:06:58 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.530,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_20_30=0.226,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.047,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: LF: TA Mar 4, CFH ripples Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_1a1.46696a90.313aced2_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_COMMENT_8BITS, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6179 --part1_1a1.46696a90.313aced2_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_1a1.46696a90.313aced2_rel_boundary" --part1_1a1.46696a90.313aced2_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1a1.46696a90_alt_bound" --1a1.46696a90_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Group, in the waterhole, XGJ and XKO were reasonably strong here between 3:00 and=20 6:30, NA sporadically but much weaker than usual. However nil WOLF copy from XES on 137577 Hz. I do have a weak unid line on=20 137580 (0.6 =B5V/m on groundwave, direction Frankfurt) which may have been a= =20 problem, even with it's power spread over 10 Hz. There was very pronounced selective directional fading on CFH last night,=20 with characteristics similar to those observed on SXV on Feb 10/11. The colo= ur=20 strips were spaced by about 60 to 90 Hz, indicating a 16 to 11ms delayed sky= wave=20 component (!). The banding structure was first visible at 3:30 with abt. 0.0= 6=20 Hz receding Doppler (ie. downward sloping ripples), went through near=20 stationary at 4:10 (see screenshot) and ended around 5:30 at 0.11 Hz approac= hing. Grabber image scales are 1.5 s and 5 Hz per pixel. Earlier last night betwee= n=20 22:40 and 23:30, weaker ripples were noticed on SXV as well. I would be very= =20 interested to know if anybody else noticed such selective fading=20 characteristics on any of the "wideband" LF signals. 73 and best of luck Markus, DF6NM =20 --1a1.46696a90_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Group,

in the waterhole, XGJ and XKO were reasonably strong here between 3:00 and 6= :30, NA sporadically but much weaker than usual.

However nil WOLF copy from XES on 137577 Hz. I do have a weak unid line on 1= 37580 (0.6 =B5V/m on groundwave, direction Frankfurt) which may have been a=20= problem, even with it's power spread over 10 Hz.

There was very pronounced selective directional fading on CFH last night, wi= th characteristics similar to those observed on SXV on Feb 10/11. The colour= strips were spaced by about 60 to 90 Hz, indicating a 16 to 11ms delayed sk= ywave component (!). The banding structure was first visible at 3:30 with ab= t. 0.06 Hz receding Doppler (ie. downward sloping ripples), went through nea= r stationary at 4:10 (see screenshot) and ended around 5:30 at 0.11 Hz appro= aching.



Grabber image scales are 1.5 s and 5 Hz per pixel. Earlier last night betwee= n 22:40 and 23:30, weaker ripples were noticed on SXV as well. I would be ve= ry interested to know if anybody else noticed such selective fading characte= ristics on any of the "wideband" LF signals.

73 and best of luck

Markus, DF6NM
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(c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060304115509m11009s708e>; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:55:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c63f82$7fabc620$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> <003c01c63f7c$5fb1cbe0$a3e4fc3e@your4105e587b6> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:55:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.236,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Re: tonight Madrid on the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 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Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS ----- Original Message ----- From: "g3kev" To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:07 AM Subject: LF: Re: tonight Madrid on the air > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joan Morros > P > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:00 PM > Subject: LF: tonight Madrid on the air > > > > > EA4BVZ will run dot30 on 136.399 kHz tonight and tomorrow. > > Reports are welcome. > > Good signal in JN01HO, 17 dB over noise. > > Juan, EA3FXF > > Juan, > Pse give the times that u are going to be active. > > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus > www.trendmicro.es > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197495881584444252 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2a1f9f47fae0907bd09708d11310256fa8c5a59f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs28599wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr1937966ugg; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:04:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si521939uge.2006.03.10.12.04.25; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHno3-0003Me-H0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:01:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHno3-0003MV-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:01:47 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHpLd-0006FE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:40:48 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FHnnn-0008TY-01; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:01:31 +0100 Received: from HW1 (ESZ106ZZweRxhEn5p+HsIB9E-QfAlE5qfKBT0Zm6yt0RFccXn0eCYL@[84.133.101.184]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FHnnf-0SOi9Y0; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:01:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:01:21 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1979779815.20060310210121@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ESZ106ZZweRxhEn5p+HsIB9E-QfAlE5qfKBT0Zm6yt0RFccXn0eCYL X-TOI-MSGID: 6812eba5-cdc2-40af-a8c9-31db2e7cee9c X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.073,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: UA0AET Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------A1A11E3154C296D" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6183 ------------A1A11E3154C296D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached a screenshot of UA0AET on 137.7022. Started beaconing with full callsign 17:15. 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Peter Dodd writes: > riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: > > > Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the > effect was > > noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless > > stateside > > > > I worked W1BB several times from 9L1 on the low end of 160m in 1964. > > How did he manage it? > > Peter, G3LDO > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197400039296615094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b5bbfba1e19c9e8fa3fb86880154d1cc9da46b7b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs19637wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr1833227ugj; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:24:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si1817815ugf.2006.03.10.02.24.52; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best 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2006 10:22:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.162,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: galloping horses Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6185 The reason was that the "galloping horses" (actually Loran-A) were confined to 1950 kHz in the North Atlantic area which included Eastern seaboard USA. The Pacific area got the 1850 kHz channel. There were odd exceptions (like the short-lived Sky-Wave Synchronised Loran chain over Europe in 1945 that used 1900 kHz) but not many. For the full story read "The Memoirs of Dr J A Pierce" Jack pretty well invented the Loran-A system and was a good friend of mine until he died in 1991. MIT Radiation Lab Series Vol 4 ("Loran") also has a good resume and describes the early attempts at low-frequency Loran that was resurrected in 1957 to become Loran-C. Walter G3JKV. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: galloping horses > In article <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk>, Peter Dodd > writes >>riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: >> >>> Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the effect >>> was >>> noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless >>> stateside >>> >> >>I worked W1BB several times from 9L1 on the low end of 160m in 1964. How >>did he manage it? >> >>Peter, G3LDO >> > I have a vague memory that Stew had an arrangement with the US Coast > Guard to allow him a noise free slot for some of his record attempts. > > Could be an urban myth though but it's going to bug me now until I > have a read through my old RSGB Bulls. > -- > Les G8ARF / G3VYZ / RSARS 173 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197400039296615094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2436c44e7b9ed5773fdd62e57f788bfce17d1025 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs19297wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.222.13 with SMTP id u13mr892115ugg; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:01:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si173226uge.2006.03.10.02.01.06; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHeP2-00088d-Ov for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:59:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHeP2-00088U-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:59:20 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHfwS-00082c-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:11 +0000 Received: from holywell.demon.co.uk ([80.177.210.169]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1FHeOm-000AuG-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:59:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:58:28 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Les Thompson References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.05-U () X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: galloping horses Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6186 In article <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk>, Peter Dodd writes >riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: > >> Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the effect was >> noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless >> stateside >> > >I worked W1BB several times from 9L1 on the low end of 160m in 1964. >How did he manage it? > >Peter, G3LDO > I have a vague memory that Stew had an arrangement with the US Coast Guard to allow him a noise free slot for some of his record attempts. Could be an urban myth though but it's going to bug me now until I have a read through my old RSGB Bulls. -- Les G8ARF / G3VYZ / RSARS 173 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197400039296615094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e7f68762f98228566e9354e605e3981f01f43bde Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs19038wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.20.16 with SMTP id x16mr1784106ugi; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:39:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si2592112ugf.2006.03.10.01.39.21; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHdyX-0007vc-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:31:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHdyW-0007vT-P3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:31:56 +0000 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHeyJ-0007GH-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:35:48 +0000 Received: from [82.111.114.189] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FHdyR-0004Gm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:31:52 +0000 Message-ID: <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:54:46 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=1.093,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: galloping horses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6187 riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: > Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the effect was > noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless > stateside > I worked W1BB several times from 9L1 on the low end of 160m in 1964. How did he manage it? Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197400039296615094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1ba3019c7f2c87bf81e4396b5821327dbebf0899 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11696wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.143.20 with SMTP id q20mr4083nfd; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:58:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si525443nfa.2006.03.09.12.58.04; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHSAb-0003Ro-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:55:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHSAb-0003Rf-40 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:55:37 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHTho-0001gi-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:34:15 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCBBFSNA6TM5AS for (sender ); Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LJ23N7WG; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:54:22 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,8-17,20,22-24,25-32767 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 10:5:4195454472 X-MAIL-INFO:2f2d35a42d311d6d31d4d4b4d1543df120f020e170edb0e1c9 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewEHktk5CJ6O8YVrp+Opb3xw8ZWXdjPilYw== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.068,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.142,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: galloping horses Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_388b.0434.0dd0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6188 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_388b.0434.0dd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the effect was noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless stateside Bob K3DJC On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:36:26 -0000 "g3kev" writes: This expression goes back years ago, certainly to the 1950/1960 era when one of the so called noises on the 160 metre band was referred to as GALLOPING HORSES by UK operators. It was a common description at the time to exlain the qrm suffered by those working on 160m It was not invented by the LF community. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----__JNP_000_388b.0434.0dd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hear Hear,,,, true I remember as a lad in the late 50s that the effect= =20 was
noted as Galloping Horses,,,, The 160 meter band was useless
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Bob K3DJC
 
 
 
 
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:36:26 -0000 "g3kev" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>= =20 writes:
This expression goes back years ago= ,=20 certainly to the 1950/1960 era when one of the so called noises on the = 160=20 metre band was referred to as GALLOPING HORSES by UK=20 operators.
It was a common description at the time = to exlain=20 the qrm suffered by those working on 160m
It was not invented by the LF=20 community.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
 
----__JNP_000_388b.0434.0dd0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197400039296615094 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6d6fc14b7d1e0cc46d96909a1e42c145148e7c83 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs9404wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with SMTP id g16mr1232946qbf; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14si998757qbq.2006.03.09.10.41.02; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHQ2X-0002Zf-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHQ2X-0002ZW-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0144.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.144] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHR21-0002Nt-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:42:42 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.228.59) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F780003E9A51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:37:11 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c643a8$7a8326a0$3be4fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:36:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.024,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.142,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: galloping horses Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C643A8.5FB0B220" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6189 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C643A8.5FB0B220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This expression goes back years ago, certainly to the 1950/1960 era when one of the so called noises on the 160 metre band was referred to as GALLOPING HORSES by UK operators. It was a common description at the time to exlain the qrm suffered by those working on 160m It was not invented by the LF community. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C643A8.5FB0B220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This expression goes back years = ago, certainly=20 to the 1950/1960 era when one of the so called noises on the 160 metre = band was=20 referred to as GALLOPING HORSES by UK operators.
It was a common description at the time = to exlain=20 the qrm suffered by those working on 160m
It was not invented by the LF=20 community.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C643A8.5FB0B220-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196687276360610398 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ca14410b3db29629c0f104db0fe52a89017b8765 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs5189wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr83104uge; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si763459uge.2006.03.01.13.51.59; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEZDH-0007mu-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:50:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEZDH-0007ml-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:50:27 +0000 Received: from [83.221.140.45] (helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEahU-0006lH-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:26:01 +0000 Received: from oz7qcdell [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A7040550; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:49:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c63d7a$170d9b70$0d00a8c0@oz7qcdell> From: "OZ7QC" To: "LF Reflektor" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:50:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.046,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C63D82.78A5C350" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6190 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C63D82.78A5C350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, VO1NA at 01:26 UTC 01-03-06 in JO65BP and some sporatic capturs during = the night Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C63D82.78A5C350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
VO1NA at 01:26 UTC 01-03-06 in JO65BP = and some=20 sporatic capturs during the night
 
Vy 73 Ingolf = OZ7QC
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Captures 00:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197047194324481000 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ac0606b73ba873f54d46386740cd00822bb4952a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs64144wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.31.1 with SMTP id i1mr2889099ugj; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:12:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si3872930uge.2006.03.05.13.12.44; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FG0Vm-0008JZ-Cp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:11:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FG0Vl-0008JQ-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:11:30 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FG1TL-0001vB-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:13:05 +0000 Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.167.85]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2006 21:11:21 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAFTcCkSHZyw Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.167.85]:3490 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FG0Vd-0000mj-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:11:21 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:12:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.049,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: RE: LF Grabbers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6192 OOOPs!! That freq should have been 136.320KHz Sorry. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 05 March 2006 21:01 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: LF Grabbers Hi All, Which of the active LF Grabbers are monitoring around the 136.200khz area? Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196945452897308246 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8c020b032d5e3d568759e2b876f62dae5ac90297 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs52240wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr1975733uge; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:15:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si1597945ugc.2006.03.04.10.15.35; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFbGR-0001Zg-4Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:13:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFbGQ-0001ZX-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:13:58 +0000 Received: from mh-core.neobee.net ([80.74.164.194] helo=mx.metrohive.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFclc-00005b-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:50:38 +0000 Received: from ruter.sowireless.co.yu ([80.74.165.5] helo=sowireless.org) by mx.metrohive.net with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFbG4-0004Sv-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:13:37 +0100 Received: from pop3.metrohive.net ([80.74.164.194]) by sowireless.org (sowireless.org) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.0.R) with DomainPOP id md50000027039.msg for ; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:14:15 -0800 X-Kaspersky: Checked Received: from holomatrix1.neobee.net ([80.74.160.47]) by mx.metrohive.net with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFbFJ-0004SS-3K for sowireless@metrohive.net; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:12:49 +0100 Received: from mx1.vdial.verat.net ([213.244.192.10]) by holomatrix1.neobee.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FFbFG-0004cF-4x for sowireless@metrohive.net; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:12:46 +0100 Received: from server.stoprust.net (98.70-86-30.reverse.theplanet.com [70.86.30.98] (may be forged)) by mx1.vdial.verat.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k24ICi5d005293 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:12:46 +0100 Received: from localhost.stoprust.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=server.stoprust.net) by server.stoprust.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFagU-000Ee3-Te; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:36:50 -0600 Received: from [64.202.165.238] (helo=smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by server.stoprust.net with smtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FFagT-000Edy-Pf for moon-net@list-serv.davidv.net; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:36:49 -0600 Received: (qmail 9293 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2006 17:36:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (151.46.159.27) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2006 17:36:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4409D02F.903@usa.net> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:36:47 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: moon-net@list-serv.davidv.net, linrad@antennspecialisten.se, LF Mailing List , Post LWCA Lowfer References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060304123945.00c30700@pop.shentel.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060304123945.00c30700@pop.shentel.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Cc: X-BeenThere: Moon-net@list-serv.davidv.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5p1 List-Id: Amateur radio moonbounce List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.stoprust.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - sowireless.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - list-serv.davidv.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Neobee-Spam-Score: -25 X-MDRemoteIP: 80.74.164.194 X-Return-Path: dibene@usa.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Report: * -4.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Processed: sowireless.org, Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:14:28 -0800 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.347,BAYES_00=-2.599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: LF: [Moon-net] New list server for Winrad X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6193 Greetings all, I have moved the discussion list about Winrad from Yahoo to a mailman-managed listserver. 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Those who would like to become members can visit this page: http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org The Yahoo list will be shortly closed down. 73 Alberto I2PHD _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297461353684089 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c792421d58b3b6003d480cfeb5e7fbdc5ddb031 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1220wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr873066ugj; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:49:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q1si158197uge.2006.03.08.18.49.29; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHBAU-0006lQ-1v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:46:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHBAT-0006lH-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:46:21 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHChL-0001OS-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:24:42 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter89.comcast.net ([204.127.197.189]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060309024544m13001s5b3e>; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 02:45:55 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter89.comcast.net; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:45:43 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:45:43 +0000 Message-Id: <030920060245.1848.440F96D7000387690000073822092246270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.212,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ARGO or SPECTRAN? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6194 Alan, John, and J.B. Thanks for the comments on the pros and cons of Argo, Spectran and Spectrum Lab. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" > To: "rsgb lf reflector" > Cc: "LWCA LF Reflector" > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:59 PM > Subject: LF: ARGO or SPECTRAN? > > > > Hello the list, > > > > I have been using Spectran for my QRSS receiving, mostly out of habit. > > > > > Am I missing something by using Spectran instead of Argo? > > > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > Hi Warren, > > Since all I can do so far is receive, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents worth > in on this. I use both Argo and Spectrum Lab for my QRSS listening, > and I like both of them. Argo shines in its simplicity to configure and in > the ease of use, once you've loaded a few favourite settings into it. Not > having a lot of fancy bells and whistles means it's pretty hard to mess up > anything. Spectrum Lab does have one ability that I really like in that I > can change the range of frequency that I want to watch without having > an effect on the mode. For instance I can set an upper and lower pair > of frequencies to establish a range while watching QRSS30, then make > a change to that range on the fly without other effects. I find that one > feature quite handy. As one of the others on the list mentioned, it all > boils down to which one you're comfortable with and how it does > what you want of it. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297461353684089 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f36f4285d47e84b62d708f025708d7c6c16e85bf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs30416wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.17 with SMTP id b17mr811096ugi; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:17:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1160420ugf.2006.03.08.16.17.06; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH8nF-0006EC-E4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:14:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH8nF-0006E3-1p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:14:13 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHAK5-0000Lu-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:52:31 +0000 Received: from server (dial-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.146]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id D86F613346 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00f301c642fc$dbd1f640$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <030820061459.19015.440EF153000E948900004A4722064244130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:08:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.007,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: ARGO or SPECTRAN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6195 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" To: "rsgb lf reflector" Cc: "LWCA LF Reflector" Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: LF: ARGO or SPECTRAN? > Hello the list, > > I have been using Spectran for my QRSS receiving, mostly out of habit. > Am I missing something by using Spectran instead of Argo? > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > Hi Warren, Since all I can do so far is receive, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents worth in on this. I use both Argo and Spectrum Lab for my QRSS listening, and I like both of them. Argo shines in its simplicity to configure and in the ease of use, once you've loaded a few favourite settings into it. Not having a lot of fancy bells and whistles means it's pretty hard to mess up anything. Spectrum Lab does have one ability that I really like in that I can change the range of frequency that I want to watch without having an effect on the mode. For instance I can set an upper and lower pair of frequencies to establish a range while watching QRSS30, then make a change to that range on the fly without other effects. I find that one feature quite handy. As one of the others on the list mentioned, it all boils down to which one you're comfortable with and how it does what you want of it. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297461353684089 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2e339aa897cd06a0dcaa3bcd6459aea3843e61fe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24103wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr528821ugj; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:30:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si785062uge.2006.03.08.07.30.37; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0aM-0003Xa-8C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:28:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0aL-0003XR-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:28:21 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH1ZG-0000t2-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:31:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 26258 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 15:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.66.184 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 15:28:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c642c4$ead09800$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <030820061459.19015.440EF153000E948900004A4722064244130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:28:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.043,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: ARGO or SPECTRAN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6196 Hi Warren, I am a bit of a "Nerd" but I run Spectran on my internet machine so I can listen on the PC using the audio filters and play with parameters in a way that is not always possible on ARGO, which is running on another PC alongside and used for overnight captures. I use ARGO for serious monitoring cos it is a lot less likely I will make a mess of it, particularly on long dot length modes. I can change ARGO quickly to a given mode and know I have got optimised conditons, and spot-on calibration. It would also seem that ARGO will run on almost any soundcard whereas Spectran is a lot more choosey. Spectrum Lab is terrific but very complex and takes too long to relearn if I want to do something quickly....I save that for particular experiments using the other built in features.....logging, LF receiver, data modes,etc. ARGO was built by Alberto as a fairly painless QRSS receiver/display, with a lot of the decisions made for you when you select a mode. Its like they used to say about word processors.....the best one is the one you are used to, and comfortable with. Cheers de Alan G3NYK . ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb lf reflector Cc: LWCA LF Reflector Sent: 08 March 2006 14:59 Subject: LF: ARGO or SPECTRAN? > Hello the list, > > I have been using Spectran for my QRSS receiving, mostly out of habit. I have had excellent results with Spectran and Wolf's Spectrum Lab so I saw no reason to change. I saw the following notice on the lwca main web page: > > "Argo has somewhat similar performance to Spectran, but interacts better with the user's soundcard and is customized for QRSS modes. " > > Am I missing something by using Spectran instead of Argo? > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197207201489368037 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bafdbc720e24cac28acb506c39c331fdd43fc687 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs7167wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.193.17 with SMTP id v17mr3329625qbp; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si3030983qba.2006.03.07.08.13.33; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGeli-0006SZ-8s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:10:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGelh-0006SQ-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:10:37 +0000 Received: from avalon.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGfk8-0000Kc-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:13:07 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by avalon.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k27GAN8c029532 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:40:23 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k27G6WDE000651 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:36:32 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k27G6W4W025280; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:36:32 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:36:31 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1289521001.20060307163124@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <1289521001.20060307163124@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 6/7 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6197 Dear Hartmut and Group, When I looked in the back yard this morning, I noticed my 100m wire was on the ground. From Hartmut's screen captures, it appears that it fell between 0230 and 0300. Congrats Hartmut on another first -- reception of TA signals from a wire on the ground! The Decca amp did not appear to mind what must have been a huge mismatch, having folded back its RF output to 1 amp from just over 3. 73 and thank-you to all who monitor and report my sigs and those of my colleagues on this side of the pond. Joe On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Again strong signal levels last night, but longer fading periods > appeared here. Copied NA, XGJ, XKO and XNS. > Captures 22:30-06:30 can be see here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197207201489368037 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9d2f823c54703caeb84cf336847ef6786d0cf375 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6985wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.211.11 with SMTP id n11mr3385901qbq; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:56:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si1821167qba.2006.03.07.07.56.03; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGeTu-0006LV-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:52:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGeTt-0006LM-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:52:13 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGfSJ-0000E0-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:54:42 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter07.comcast.net ([204.127.197.117]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060307155203m12001beq1e>; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:52:03 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter07.comcast.net; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:52:02 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:52:02 +0000 Message-Id: <030720061552.12265.440DAC210000AACE00002FE922007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.197,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 6/7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6198 Thanks to Jean-Pierre F5YG, Jean-Pierre F1AFJ and Hartmut for the reports and captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Again strong signal levels last night, but longer fading periods > appeared here. Copied NA, XGJ, XKO and XNS. > Captures 22:30-06:30 can be see here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197207201489368037 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c4997555d576c64cdfd255558cf709a10a4a9798 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6771wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.206.20 with SMTP id i20mr3328799qbq; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si3146111qba.2006.03.07.07.35.56; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGeAR-0006EV-8B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:32:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGeAQ-0006EM-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:32:06 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGfgl-0003BC-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:09:53 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FGeA4-0005ci-08; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:31:44 +0100 Received: from HW1 (EqtHSZZawevcizxdEBBtsDpRucqMVXLOx0SiMHkNxLTRX9S1-++wkS@[84.133.104.216]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FGe9m-0slCrI0; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:31:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:31:24 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1289521001.20060307163124@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EqtHSZZawevcizxdEBBtsDpRucqMVXLOx0SiMHkNxLTRX9S1-++wkS X-TOI-MSGID: a3684afd-cf83-4f67-a795-be826996a933 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.075,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 6/7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6199 Again strong signal levels last night, but longer fading periods appeared here. Copied NA, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Captures 22:30-06:30 can be see here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198398769971756813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73ca8d6bb037d4038a2583a7fe98e4ce301cfb48 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7946wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.114.6 with SMTP id r6mr936762qbm; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si56379qbe.2006.03.21.07.53.25; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLj8I-0004Z9-VB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:50:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLj8I-0004Z0-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:50:54 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLkjt-0000BW-3N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:34:07 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FLj7z-0007HZ-03; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:50:35 +0100 Received: from HW1 (X7-U8aZvweS2n88nhRks5ce0WD09U6jbT5Lcjgnc+hlJLPMDiKoCg8@[84.133.107.114]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FLj7u-0j61I00; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:50:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:50:28 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1478674582.20060321165028@t-online.de> To: Ed Lesnichy In-Reply-To: <1944583329.20060321091158@dx.ru> References: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> <1944583329.20060321091158@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: X7-U8aZvweS2n88nhRks5ce0WD09U6jbT5Lcjgnc+hlJLPMDiKoCg8 X-TOI-MSGID: 4c95cdc7-07d5-4d66-97f3-e3f696892a1a X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.108 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC / UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6200 Ed, thanks for the info. After some research and with help of your great "lf-ham-list" I found that it must have been RU9CUA and send him an email. Sergej, RA9CUA has already confirmed my reception of his signal. He wrote his receiving possibilities are poor at the moment. He is using an old RFT tube-rx build in Germany. My email to the LF-list was a bit fast, before I really identified the station, because I was hoping for a 2-way-QSO from other members of this group with these DX-stations. I saw S57A and DL2HRE calling but no luck. Dmitry, RA3YO was calling on 137.764 earlier - no luck, too. In the past 10 days UA4WPF was visible here nearly every day between 17:00 and 20:30 UTC with several CQs. I saw only CQs and no 2-way-QSOs. He started on 137.758 and the past 3 days he was on 137.760. I'll look for signals from the east every day between 17:00-21:00 UTC. After 21:00 I switch the main LF antenna to the west. 73 Hartmut > Dear LF enthusiasts, > 20-03-2006, 22:11 MSK(+3 GMT), Hartmut Wolff wrote: HW>> It seems UA0AGC is active tonight. Just partial copy of the callsign HW>> on 137.704 kHz. Screenshot attached. > This is Sergej RA9CUA > He already made 2way QSO with RX9BS and UA4WPF HW>> UA4WPF was calling in QRSS3 on 137.760 kHz 18:29-18:39. > QTH-loc LO66PU op Anatoly > his cristal's fix freq abt 137.758 > March 18 I all time RX UA0AGC in 10s mode - see attach > QRB=3696km (NO53UR) > I know now some russian new LF stations: > UA4WPF, RX9BS, RA9CUA, UA0AET, UA0AGC > 73! Ed RU6LA http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198398769971756813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e2c2035b1bc0fd9cbc08d61d0c7ebac4561c82bb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs29485wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.253.9 with SMTP id f9mr262756qbs; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si315278qbq.2006.03.20.22.14.57; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLa6p-0003DW-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:12:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLa6p-0003DN-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:12:47 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLbiG-0004kT-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:55:50 +0000 Received: from ed.dx ([10.0.1.11]) by relay.dx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLa6J-0007q3-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:12:15 +0300 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:11:58 +0300 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1944583329.20060321091158@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> References: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.362,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC / UA4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------1C7C934348979" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6201 ------------1C7C934348979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF enthusiasts, 20-03-2006, 22:11 MSK(+3 GMT), Hartmut Wolff wrote: HW> It seems UA0AGC is active tonight. Just partial copy of the callsign HW> on 137.704 kHz. Screenshot attached. This is Sergej RA9CUA He already made 2way QSO with RX9BS and UA4WPF HW> UA4WPF was calling in QRSS3 on 137.760 kHz 18:29-18:39. QTH-loc LO66PU op Anatoly his cristal's fix freq abt 137.758 March 18 I all time RX UA0AGC in 10s mode - see attach QRB=3696km (NO53UR) I know now some russian new LF stations: UA4WPF, RX9BS, RA9CUA, UA0AET, UA0AGC 73! 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1462253576.20060320210111@t-online.de> To: Hartmut Wolff In-Reply-To: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> References: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VgHu2OZVYePzbSKZirylS5d0ecHQ2fFyNvF6FLiDRoqG3pBdi-WiU+ X-TOI-MSGID: 6adf77bf-cca0-446c-afe5-aef5ba6fef82 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.118 Subject: Re: LF: UA0AGC / UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6202 > It seems UA0AGC is active tonight. Just partial copy of the callsign > on 137.704 kHz. Screenshot attached. Probably this was not UA0AGC, but RA9CUA in MO07OQ. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198398769971756813 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3d009c20958af7bb2400e452456e692af73a357b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs19433wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.114.6 with SMTP id r6mr229353qbm; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:15:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si2630523qba.2006.03.20.11.15.26; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLPnU-0001Zb-KK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:12:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLPnU-0001ZS-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:12:08 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLQsL-0006Ob-Js for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:21:14 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FLPnR-0002bs-07; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:12:05 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GvGSpwZcoeLCZUPoNfsd0iAyDmhupedqCEdN0p+TACkSWkQfTg9EYn@[84.133.127.61]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FLPnF-0LNPjU0; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:11:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:11:53 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15710588598.20060320201153@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GvGSpwZcoeLCZUPoNfsd0iAyDmhupedqCEdN0p+TACkSWkQfTg9EYn X-TOI-MSGID: 21f38585-4f35-486c-be23-e46dbd6896d2 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.188,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: UA0AGC / UA4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------61D6E63167990E" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6203 ------------61D6E63167990E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems UA0AGC is active tonight. Just partial copy of the callsign on 137.704 kHz. Screenshot attached. 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(8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k28ITtQ2000316 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:29:57 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.2.1/277]); Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:29:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c642de$46eabe40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:29:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.073,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Real QRP tests continued Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6205 Ok - Just resurrected the old linear 5W LF test transmitter so that will do if necessary. The synth trace is rock steady on a scope when compared with its input reference signal, so no nasty internal PLL artefacts, and it does generate what it says on the dial. The synth has been used before to drive a microwave beacon and it was happy with 24/7 operation for a few months So ready when you are... Any 1Hz step Andy G4JNT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: Real QRP tests > Yes, I've now got a commercial synth that goes down to 100kHz in 1Hz steps > which should solve your need for N/M Hz intervals. It can supply up to > 13dBm so putting that into my (-36dBi) gain antenna may be enough. If not, > can always add a quickie amplifier module > > You can either have the carrier derived from Caesium (2 - 3 hours notice > needed) > or from GPS (30 minutes notice) > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Martinez" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:51 PM > Subject: LF: Real QRP tests > > > > >From G3PLX: > > > > If there's anyone within about 500km from me at 54N 3W (i.e. daytime > surface > > wave range) who could transmit a few micro-watts of very stable > (preferably > > GPS-derived) carrier on 136kHz, I would like to run some tests with my > new > > GPS-locked reception scheme to see how low we can go and still detect that > > there's something there. It may take some time to detect the signal, but > > with that sort of low power there shouldn't be too much problem with > leaving > > the transmitter on for a day. A quick calculation says that 25mA r.m.s. of > > antenna current into an average antenna should produce plenty enough > signal. > > That's only 150v rms or so, depending on the antenna. The more stable is > > the signal, the lower down I should be able to detect it. > > > > Any one for QRPP? > > > > 73 > > Peter G3PLX > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 2006-03-07 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198944517926762950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3bb76a09c515660967c8eaeebbb8b7f686ec31bc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs37437wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.243.7 with SMTP id q7mr2237711ugh; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:22:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id w40si1391730ugc.2006.03.26.22.22.27; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNl5q-00052a-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:20:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNl5o-00052R-Qv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:20:44 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNmjT-0003sW-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:06:07 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A1107203B for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:19:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000e01c65166$768a7fa0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:19:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.893,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C65177.39BB1D80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6206 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C65177.39BB1D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity=20 only some traces of "XKO" ( not readable! )=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C65177.39BB1D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi = all on the list=20 !
 
The last night , verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
with a strong static activity =
only some traces = of  "XKO" ( not=20 readable! ) 
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
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73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C65177.39BB1D80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198944517926762950 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: eed77d609f255e4db5212bfa47bd5e2d004ff9b8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs28655wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.221.4 with SMTP id t4mr1324822nfg; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m16si123992nfc.2006.03.26.11.49.52; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNbD1-0002Uy-BO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:47:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNbCy-0002Up-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:47:28 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNcqV-0001A0-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:32:40 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 9223D520F5 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <004801c6510e$00b8a250$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:46:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.919,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/ A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C6511E.C3A8DBD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6207 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C6511E.C3A8DBD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night ,verry verry poor conditions for me ! Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil !=20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C6511E.C3A8DBD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night ,verry verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
 
Nohing here ! nil ! nil ! nil = ! 
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C6511E.C3A8DBD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197702646419207345 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f61ccbead6f90ec4d9ead1632e86cd5393d04fd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs57599wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr1214914ugf; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si4504477ugf.2006.03.12.18.50.52; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FId6M-0003KY-Pk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:48:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FId6M-0003KP-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:48:06 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.200.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIe7R-0005dS-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:53:20 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060313024756011008sqnee>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:47:56 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: , Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:47:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.192,BAYES_20=-1.951 Subject: LF: LF linear power amplifier Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6211 A short writeup on the Hafler 9505 power amplifier suitable for LF linear amplifier service can be found at: http://www.w1vd.com/page23.html This is the big brother to the Hafler P3000 in use at WD2XES and WD2XNS. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197468076268076550 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bbcf193a691f923df974ab0dea109d6c7e3c3e83 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21970wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.82.8 with SMTP id f8mr705264wrb; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:04:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7si736668wra.2006.03.10.06.04.10; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHiBf-00014k-VY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:01:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHiBf-00014b-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:01:47 +0000 Received: from smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHjj8-00023Z-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:40:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 19874 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2006 14:01:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2006 14:01:18 -0000 Message-ID: <4411884D.7050001@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:08:13 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.000,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: NA Last night. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6212 Joe, So that's why my signal didn't make it to France! Tnx. John A. Joe Craig wrote: >NA was shut down around 0400 to watch for MP. A complete MP >was received but the next one faded. A wavy XKO was seen and >John's XES was heard at good CW strength. John is 1000 miles >away. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197468076268076550 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3c8cdbc4925cd96e5d9f01184e7428dcda786c96 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20915wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.154.15 with SMTP id b15mr792284wre; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:42:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 10si874578wrl.2006.03.10.04.42.27; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHgte-0000YK-M0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:39:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHgte-0000YB-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:39:06 +0000 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHiR6-0001Mq-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:18:00 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2ACchos025330 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:08:43 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k2ACcheK027936 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:08:43 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k2ACchfr027938; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:08:43 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:08:42 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20060309.155410.3264.4.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <44114CE6.7000905@ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.001,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: NA Last night. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6213 NA was shut down around 0400 to watch for MP. A complete MP was received but the next one faded. A wavy XKO was seen and John's XES was heard at good CW strength. John is 1000 miles away. After the excitement, I reactivated the beacon. Thanks to F1AFJ F5YG and Hartmut for the signal reports. RX 15 turn square loop, 2m diagonal, 1 pickup turn to a Burhans preamp (FET + BJT, ~30 dB) to an XCVR that is quite deaf but very stable on 137 kHz. The loop is 60 m from the shack to reduce the noise. I hope to try a Miniwhip soon. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197989748825210312 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fff0c2f09145f29d96f0abbde2814a8382f4a9a3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs3829wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.244.6 with SMTP id w6mr498593qbr; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:54:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si176866qba.2006.03.15.22.54.13; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJmL1-0000uq-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:51:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJmL1-0000uh-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:51:59 +0000 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJnue-0001Ts-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:33:07 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0408.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 72A441C0016A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:51:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-30.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-30.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.30]) by mwinf0408.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AFB671C0016E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:51:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060316065123719.AFB671C0016E@mwinf0408.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:50:13 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.148 Subject: LF: Re: Traces of XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6214 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > Traces of XGJ, from 0245 to 0510 UTC on abt 137,779.74 Hz (+-). > > Best 73 Jay and all ! Heu... Warren ! Looks like I stay asleep this morning. 73 to all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198868007285468246 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b639ea8e646bdfe1a5e848ed214a123a701a80b8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs15965wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.3 with SMTP id s3mr1133922qbq; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:33:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f17si1824998qba.2006.03.25.15.33.46; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNIDr-0005rX-Cm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:31:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNIDq-0005rO-P1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:31:06 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNJLF-000422-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:42:50 +0000 Received: from server (dial-199.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.199]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id A49B65D26 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:30:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00a801c65064$a53b0ca0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: References: <032520062046.9113.4425AC110008890F0000239922007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:33:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.934,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: WD2XGJ QRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C65064.95187EC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6215 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C65064.95187EC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C65064.95187EC0" ------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C65064.95187EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren, Your QRP sigs are making it at least this far! What power are you = running? 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C65064.95187EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Warren,
 
Your QRP sigs are making it at least = this=20 far!  What power are you running?
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
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1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197088502920748636 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 80a0ec33d84c39dac2d8352dfff1e5f977bd4736 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs69452wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 00:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.2 with SMTP id r2mr2699559ugh; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:43:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si5325807ugf.2006.03.06.00.43.00; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGBH0-0001Kt-EQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:40:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGBH0-0001Kk-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:40:58 +0000 Received: from smtp17.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGCmu-0005G2-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:18:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1701.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7BB1C70000A5 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:40:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-157.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-157.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.157]) by mwinf1701.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BFB4B700009B for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:40:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060306084036785.BFB4B700009B@mwinf1701.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:39:37 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000e01c640f4$83e1f7a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <000e01c640f4$83e1f7a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.018,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6216 Yes, like Jean-Pierre F1AFJ, poor conditions here, and many statics, only traces of : NA : 0140 ==> 0545 ; XKO : 0430 ==> 0600 ; XES : 0330 ==> 0615 ; XGJ : 0300 ==> 0615 ; XNS : 0300 ==> 0615 UTC. As I said, traces only, not a single one full call, exept VO1NA, with two full "NA" strings. Sorry... But, 73 to all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197088502920748636 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d0547a7a1d810dac9ff83b3c742c4b8ef1eae3cc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs69240wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr2832702uge; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si4758159ugf.2006.03.06.00.09.19; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGAhL-0001CF-5S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:04:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGAhH-0001C6-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:04:03 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGBf1-0006In-1C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:05:52 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 231666CE5F for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:03:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000e01c640f4$83e1f7a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:03:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.071,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C640FC.E4BA51F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6217 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C640FC.E4BA51F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , small conditions !=20 I copied : XGJ, XKO, NA , XNS (trace !) the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C640FC.E4BA51F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297086162208610 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fa04d6cdfc023d2de5dda2d11975f45fbc16cc06 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24244wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.6 with SMTP id c6mr542326ugi; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si798512ugf.2006.03.08.07.42.41; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0lB-0003hq-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:39:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0lA-0003hg-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:39:32 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH2Hr-0003zt-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:17:43 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter78.comcast.net ([204.127.197.178]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060308153906m1400gopfie>; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:39:06 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter78.comcast.net; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:39:04 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Laurence KL1X" , lowfer@lwca.org Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:39:04 +0000 Message-Id: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.218,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: dcf39 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6220 Hi Laurence, What time do you get traces of XKO? I've been dropping XGJ back to the low power transmitter about 04:00 - 04:30 UTC most nights. If your darkness window is after 04:00 UTC I could leave the Decca TX on. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Laurence KL1X" > Just been watching the West coast sun rise effect on NPG MSK signal on appx > 135.975/925 Khzish from here in Borneo. We had a USA pre dawn enhancement > over the previous 2 hours of some avg of 10dB up to the time sun rose at > ground level at San Fran area, then a rapid attenuation thereafter. I saw > the same yesterday although signals werent as good then. These improved > signals are just at audible levels with reasonable qrn. I have traces on > Dex XKO's freq (again) at his pre dawn at dot 60 slow but no solid full ID. > So no Proboscis monkey heading his way yet! XKO is just over 15,000Kms from > here > > Looking the other way... > > What is surprising is that Im seeing DCF39 at 1457Z over a path of 10439Kms > with the nearest sundown, East of Moscow, thats on the great circle path at > ground level some 1475Kms (east) distant from Magdeburg. Its a good strength > too and vis at dot 10. > > ill have a capture window open from now till my dawn at 2225Z from 136.317 > to 136.321 dot 60 slow for anyone who wants to put signals up. > > Tomorrow night (my night that is) will be the last night of operation from > here in Borneo :-(( > > Laurence 9M6/GM4DMA > 80F clear at 2314 local, 1514z > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297086162208610 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1c4925c952b35de17470e3894472741935d7eb7d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24223wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.31.1 with SMTP id i1mr529118ugj; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:40:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si796885ugf.2006.03.08.07.40.54; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0kU-0003fl-Ke for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:38:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0kU-0003fc-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:38:50 +0000 Received: from bay116-f9.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.19] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH2HB-0003zM-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:17:00 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:38:24 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:38:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:38:22 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2006 15:38:24.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[56486260:01C642C6] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.068,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: RE: LF: dcf39 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6221 I also forgot to say the ftp is working and my captures are available at http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Ive just looked at the Gt Circle route to XKO's from here and it takes a very North path via Seoul, nearly paralleping the Northern Arctic coast nr Barrow, then down to the East of Winnipeg then South... Laurence >From: "Laurence KL1X" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >CC: lowfer@lwca.org >Subject: LF: dcf39 >Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:19:12 -0900 > >Just been watching the West coast sun rise effect on NPG MSK signal on >appx 135.975/925 Khzish from here in Borneo. We had a USA pre dawn >enhancement over the previous 2 hours of some avg of 10dB up to the time >sun rose at ground level at San Fran area, then a rapid attenuation >thereafter. I saw the same yesterday although signals werent as good then. >These improved signals are just at audible levels with reasonable qrn. I >have traces on Dex XKO's freq (again) at his pre dawn at dot 60 slow but no >solid full ID. So no Proboscis monkey heading his way yet! XKO is just over >15,000Kms from here > >Looking the other way... > >What is surprising is that Im seeing DCF39 at 1457Z over a path of 10439Kms >with the nearest sundown, East of Moscow, thats on the great circle path >at ground level some 1475Kms (east) distant from Magdeburg. Its a good >strength too and vis at dot 10. > >ill have a capture window open from now till my dawn at 2225Z from 136.317 >to 136.321 dot 60 slow for anyone who wants to put signals up. > >Tomorrow night (my night that is) will be the last night of operation from >here in Borneo :-(( > >Laurence 9M6/GM4DMA >80F clear at 2314 local, 1514z > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197297086162208610 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c01e56e4d8bce55bf5f24068e27613da80d293ff Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24032wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.31.1 with SMTP id i1mr516906ugj; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:24:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si783882ugf.2006.03.08.07.24.39; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0S5-0003Rf-52 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:19:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH0S4-0003RW-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:19:48 +0000 Received: from bay116-f35.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.45] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH1Qy-0000pp-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:22:47 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:19:17 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:19:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:19:12 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2006 15:19:17.0846 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAD01F60:01C642C3] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.087,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: dcf39 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6222 Just been watching the West coast sun rise effect on NPG MSK signal on appx 135.975/925 Khzish from here in Borneo. We had a USA pre dawn enhancement over the previous 2 hours of some avg of 10dB up to the time sun rose at ground level at San Fran area, then a rapid attenuation thereafter. I saw the same yesterday although signals werent as good then. These improved signals are just at audible levels with reasonable qrn. I have traces on Dex XKO's freq (again) at his pre dawn at dot 60 slow but no solid full ID. So no Proboscis monkey heading his way yet! XKO is just over 15,000Kms from here Looking the other way... What is surprising is that Im seeing DCF39 at 1457Z over a path of 10439Kms with the nearest sundown, East of Moscow, thats on the great circle path at ground level some 1475Kms (east) distant from Magdeburg. Its a good strength too and vis at dot 10. ill have a capture window open from now till my dawn at 2225Z from 136.317 to 136.321 dot 60 slow for anyone who wants to put signals up. Tomorrow night (my night that is) will be the last night of operation from here in Borneo :-(( Laurence 9M6/GM4DMA 80F clear at 2314 local, 1514z From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198752923963236665 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 926b539a4137a9ccfecbef67061fa02987f06e2e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7471wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.239.5 with SMTP id q5mr522424qbr; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si1560930qba.2006.03.25.04.15.04; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN7dF-0003w4-Sg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:12:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN7dF-0003vv-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:12:37 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FN9GG-0008RS-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:57:19 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.242] (helo=mx9.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FN7cv-0006jP-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:12:17 +0100 Received: from p548690be.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.144.190] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx9.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FN7cv-0004nq-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <442533C6.1060107@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:12:54 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <032420061734.3045.44242DA10003FA7D00000BE522007610640B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <8bf118410603250224q30d1d952w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410603250224q30d1d952w@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.110 Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM website down ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6223 Thanks Dave and Warren. It was always good to see that the own signals arrived somewhere, even if no-one answered. The YXM-grabber also allowed me to "align" Hell-transmissions excactly between two Loran lines ;-). Somehow I must have missed the announcement that the site would be off. Cheers, Wolf. Dave Pick schrieb: >Yes it's proceeding s l o w l y ! > >Dave. > >On 24/03/06, Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: > > >>Wolf, >> >> Dave posted a note that www.wireless.org.uk would be off for a few days while changing his ISP host. >> >> >>-- >>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ >>FN42hi >>http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>From: Wolf DL4YHF >> >> >>>Hi Dave and group, >>>Just tried to visit http://www.wireless.org.uk/ and got the old 404 >>>error. New location, or just temporarily off (hopefully) ? >>> >>>Anyway have a nice weekend, >>> 73 Wolf DL4YHF . >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198752923963236665 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6d84436e25404456683a3499ebfee6fa78b58408 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs41421wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr946628qbe; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si83893qba.2006.03.24.09.39.38; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMqBO-0001yg-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:34:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMqBO-0001yX-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:34:42 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMrI8-0003ac-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:45:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter79.comcast.net ([204.127.197.179]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060324173426m1400snla1e>; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:34:31 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter79.comcast.net; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:34:25 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, RSGB LF Group Cc: Wolf DL4YHF Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:34:25 +0000 Message-Id: <032420061734.3045.44242DA10003FA7D00000BE522007610640B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.920 Subject: Re: LF: G3YXM website down ? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6224 Wolf, Dave posted a note that www.wireless.org.uk would be off for a few days while changing his ISP host. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Wolf DL4YHF > Hi Dave and group, > Just tried to visit http://www.wireless.org.uk/ and got the old 404 > error. New location, or just temporarily off (hopefully) ? > > Anyway have a nice weekend, > 73 Wolf DL4YHF . > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198752923963236665 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d68848fb716adbfc076ee897cbe5ee3ef97e82b7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs40445wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.11.19 with SMTP id o19mr939692qbi; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si7393685qbe.2006.03.24.09.04.33; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMpev-0001kS-9B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:01:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMpeu-0001kJ-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:01:08 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMqle-0003Ol-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:12:13 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FMpds-0006Kd-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:00:04 +0100 Received: from p54868873.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.136.115] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FMpds-0001ag-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:00:04 +0100 Message-ID: <442425A2.5000102@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:00:18 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.166 Subject: LF: G3YXM website down ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6225 Hi Dave and group, Just tried to visit http://www.wireless.org.uk/ and got the old 404 error. New location, or just temporarily off (hopefully) ? Anyway have a nice weekend, 73 Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5edde37ac348a6f0cdb39e7ad0e71a22bc35e7e2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs58859wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 01:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.237.14 with SMTP id k14mr2149006ugh; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:07:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1364343ugf.2006.03.05.01.07.10; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFp8j-0005aI-1Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 09:02:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFp8i-0005a9-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 09:02:56 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFq62-0005br-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:04:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 19401 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2006 09:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.66.197 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2006 09:02:53 -0000 Message-ID: <005d01c64033$9670c340$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002e01c63fe3$35a57600$cb8e7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:02:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6226 Jim, Markus, and the group: First of all, many thanks Jim for doing those measurements. I don't have the test equipment to do these things and I am too far away from Rugby. Your results seem to say that these spurii are even lower in level than 42uW. Your posting may have crossed with my last one in which I revised the estimate of the Rugby mean erp down to 2.45kW, calculated from the published peak value of 250kW and the calculated peak/mean ratio of just under 1%. The difference between our figures is now just 4dB (10*log(42/16)). This 1% peak/mean ratio (for the Rugby tx) comes from the published LORAN waveform which effectively says that the special shape of a LORAN pulse is equivalent in power to a rectangular pulse of 83.2uS duration. Your estimate of 2.2% (45:1) is probably stretched because of the narrow bandwidth of your receiver, or maybe it's stretched by the narrow bandwidth of the Rugby antenna. If the Rugby antenna is indeed smaller, then the pulse peak/mean ratio will be less, the peak erp may be less or the mean power may be more, but I can't figure out if the spurii level would increase or decrease or stay the same! Markus: Thanks for doing the calculations. The small difference between our figures is just the difference between 136 and 137kHz - I forgot to say that I had used a value half-way between the 135 and 137 kHz estimates from the spectrum graph. Incidently, your calculation of the spectrum is interesting. It does show that the Rugby antenna is similar in bandwidth to the mathematical model, so maybe it's smalller size is not so important after all. Thanks again to everyone who replied to my first posting and helped in the investigation. The best guess is that LORAN spurii are in the 16-42uW range. Can I close the topic now -it's taken up enough bandwidth already! 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 498aad2b386ceb4cca47e2ae88e4dde56d51ff54 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs55319wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.94.10 with SMTP id w10mr333825ugl; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si2955864uge.2006.03.04.15.53.23; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFgXe-0002wn-C2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:52:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFgXd-0002we-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:52:05 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFhUl-0003pt-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:53:14 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.2b8.5a7accc (39332) for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:51:49 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2b8.5a7accc.313b8215@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:51:49 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.916,BAYES_05=-0.413,HTML_40_50=0.035,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b8.5a7accc.313b8215_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6227 --part1_2b8.5a7accc.313b8215_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It falls off only at -40 dB/decade, as expected for the click of a t^2 pulse start correction: this should have said -60 dB/decade. The time-domain pulse envelope formula is from http://www.eurofix.tudelft.nl/indexnojs.htm . Markus --part1_2b8.5a7accc.313b8215_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It falls off only at -40 dB/decade,= as expected for the click of a t^2 pulse start

correction: this should have said -60 dB/decade.

The time-domain pulse envelope formula is from http://www.eurofix.tudelft.nl/indexnojs.htm .=

Markus
 --part1_2b8.5a7accc.313b8215_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3b915dc9955b87a45d9f44396fb7859f89c1f48b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs55187wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr2118575uge; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si1798730ugc.2006.03.04.15.36.08; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFgGl-0002q0-I4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:34:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFgGk-0002pr-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:34:38 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFhDt-0003nf-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:35:46 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.1da.4dde0529 (25508); Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:34:25 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1da.4dde0529.313b7e00@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:34:24 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: dl4yhf@freenet.de MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.084,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_20_30=0.226,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_1da.4dde0529.313b7e00_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME,WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6228 --part1_1da.4dde0529.313b7e00_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_1da.4dde0529.313b7e00_rel_boundary" --part1_1da.4dde0529.313b7e00_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1da.4dde0529_alt_bound" --1da.4dde0529_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, went through your calculation and basically reproduced your result, with onl= y=20 minor differences: Following your reasoning, the power in the last bin would be 10^(-59.54/10)=20= *=20 1.37^2 =3D 2.087e-6 units. For the power sum of all bins I got 0.464 units,=20 resulting in 4.50 (instead of 4.62) ppm in the 137 kHz bin. With 2.47 kW ave= rage,=20 the average power per line would be 41.3 =B5W - perfect. I do not think this is too low. This EMRP should produce about 0.5 =B5V/m at= =20 100 km. My best daytime noise background was on the order of -27 dB=B5V/m in= 1 Hz,=20 so when viewed with in QRSS3 (1.5*0.34 Hz noise bandwidth), the line would=20 obtain 24 dB SNR. Here at 630 km from Sylt, I can only rarely see hints of L= oran=20 in QRSS3. Using MathCad's symbolic solver, the Fourier integration of the analytical=20 formula yields (if i did it right) =20 using omega =3D 2 pi (f/kHz - 100) * 0.065, and with the result normalized t= o 1=20 at center. It falls off only at -40 dB/decade, as expected for the click of=20= a=20 t^2 pulse start. The following plot shows how the formula fits the spectrum=20 analyzer data: 73 and have a nice weekend Markus In einer eMail vom 03.03.2006 10:56:07 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= =20 peter.martinez@btinternet.com:=20 > From G3PLX: >=20 > I calculated the radiated power of a LORAN line now, but I would like othe= r=20 > people to check if I did it right, because the result is surprisingly smal= l. >=20 > The spectrum measurement made at Rugby gives a chart of dB levels for 2kHz= =20 > steps over 70-130kHz, going from -8dB in the centre to -53dB at 130kHz, an= d=20 > I extrapolated by eye to estimate the levels at three more steps up to=20 > 136kHz. Here are the numbers themselves... >=20 > -52.00,-49.95,-47.49,-45.03,-43.10,-41.42,-40.24,-38.42,-35.72,-31.13,-28.= 75, > -22.49,-17.82,-13.84,-8.01,-8.46,-13.29,-16.76,-18.44,-21.41,-27.43,-29.16= ,-3 > 3.89,-40.21,-40.09,-43.32,-45.47,-44.45,-48.63,-51.86,-52.94,-55.24,-57.44= ,-5 > 9.54 >=20 > Notice that there are two 'largest' figures, so although the chart shows=20 > these two as being at frequencies of 98 and 100kHz, I am guessing that the= y=20 > are really figures for the centre of bands 98-100 and 100-102kHz. The last= =20 > three are my guesses for the values for the bands 132-134, 134-136, and=20 > 136-138 kHz. From the other information in the spreadsheet I was sent, I=20= am=20 >=20 > quite certain that this spectrum was measured at an antenna current sampli= ng=20 >=20 > point. >=20 > For each of these figures I calculated the relative "current-squared" valu= es=20 >=20 > from 10^(dB/10) then multiply each one by (F/100)^2, where F is the=20 > frequency in kHz. This gives a figure for the relative radiated power in=20 > each 2kHz slot. The square-frequency factor arises because the radiation=20 > resistance will be proportional to F-squared, and I am seeking to calculat= e=20 > the I-squared-R for each 2kHz slot. The figure I get for the 136-138kHz sl= ot=20 >=20 > is 0.0021. >=20 > Next I add all these figures to give me a total of 454.6338 units of power= .=20 > I don't know what the units are because I don't have enough information=20 > about the transmitter or the antenna, but I can divide 0.0021 by it to giv= e=20 > me the fraction of the total mean power that is radiated in the 136-138kHz= =20 > slot. This is 4.62e-6. >=20 > For the Lessay chain I know the group repetition interval is 67.31mS which= =20 > means there are 14.85 pulse groups per sec. Because half the pulses are=20 > constant polarity and half are alternating, I know that half the energy go= es=20 >=20 > into spectral lines at this spacing and half goes into lines at odd=20 > multiples of half this figure. Effectively there are twice as many spuriou= s=20 > lines as the GRI says, spaced at 7.43Hz. There are about 270 of these=20 > (2000/7.43) in a band of 2kHz wide. >=20 > Therefore the proportion of the total mean power which is radiated in a=20 > single spectral line at 136kHz is 4.62e-6 / 270 =3D 1.71e-8. >=20 > If we estimate (from the info given by Marco) that each LORAN transmitter=20 > radiates 7.5kW mean power, then the radiated power in each LORAN line is=20 > 1.71e-8 * 7500 =3D 0.128 mW. >=20 > I don't know if I should believe this! Can anybody find a mistake or at=20 > least check my calculations? All the figures needed for the calculations=20 > are in this email. Does anyone have any evidence that any of these figures= =20 > are wrong? >=20 > 73 > Peter G3PLX >=20 >=20 >=20 --1da.4dde0529_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter,

went through your calculation and basically reproduced your result, with onl= y minor differences:

Following your reasoning, the power in the last bin would be 10^(-59.54/10)=20= * 1.37^2 =3D 2.087e-6 units. For the power sum of all bins I got 0.464 units= , resulting in 4.50 (instead of 4.62) ppm in the 137 kHz bin. With 2.47 kW a= verage, the average power per line would be 41.3 =B5W - perfect.

I do not think this is too low. This EMRP should produce about 0.5 =B5V/m at= 100 km. My best daytime noise background was on the order of -27 dB=B5V/m i= n 1 Hz, so when viewed with in QRSS3 (1.5*0.34 Hz noise bandwidth), the line= would obtain 24 dB SNR. Here at 630 km from Sylt, I can only rarely see hin= ts of Loran in QRSS3.

Using MathCad's symbolic solver, the Fourier integration of the analytical f= ormula yields (if i did it right)



using omega =3D 2 pi (f/kHz - 100) * 0.065, and with the result normalized t= o 1 at center. It falls off only at -40 dB/decade, as expected for the click= of a t^2 pulse start. The following plot shows how the formula fits the spe= ctrum analyzer data:


73 and have a nice weekend

Markus


In einer eMail vom 03.03.2006 10:56:07 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= peter.martinez@btinternet.com:

From G3PLX:

I calculated the radiated power of a LORAN line now, but I would like other=20=
people to check if I did it right, because the result is surprisingly small.=

The spectrum measurement made at Rugby gives a chart of dB levels for 2kHz <= BR> steps over 70-130kHz, going from -8dB in the centre to -53dB at 130kHz, and=20=
I extrapolated by eye to estimate the levels at three more steps up to
136kHz. Here are the numbers themselves...

-52.00,-49.95,-47.49,-45.03,-43.10,-41.42,-40.24,-38.42,-35.72,-31.13,-28.75= ,-22.49,-17.82,-13.84,-8.01,-8.46,-13.29,-16.76,-18.44,-21.41,-27.43,-29.16,= -33.89,-40.21,-40.09,-43.32,-45.47,-44.45,-48.63,-51.86,-52.94,-55.24,-57.44= ,-59.54

Notice that there are two 'largest' figures, so although the chart shows these two as being at frequencies of 98 and 100kHz, I am guessing that they=20=
are really figures for the centre of bands 98-100 and 100-102kHz. The last <= BR> three are my guesses for the values for the bands 132-134, 134-136, and
136-138 kHz.  From the other information in the spreadsheet I was sent,= I am
quite certain that this spectrum was measured at an antenna current sampling=
point.

For each of these figures I calculated the relative "current-squared" values=
from 10^(dB/10) then multiply each one by (F/100)^2, where F is the
frequency in kHz. This gives a figure for the relative radiated power in each 2kHz slot. The square-frequency factor arises because the radiation resistance will be proportional to F-squared, and I am seeking to calculate=20=
the I-squared-R for each 2kHz slot. The figure I get for the 136-138kHz slot=
is 0.0021.

Next I add all these figures to give me a total of 454.6338 units of power.=20=
I don't  know what the units are because I don't have enough informatio= n
about the transmitter or the antenna, but I can divide 0.0021 by it to give=20=
me the fraction of the total mean power that is radiated in the 136-138kHz <= BR> slot. This is 4.62e-6.

For the Lessay chain I know the group repetition interval is 67.31mS which <= BR> means there are 14.85 pulse groups per sec. Because half the pulses are
constant polarity and half are alternating, I know that half the energy goes=
into spectral lines at this spacing and half goes into lines at odd
multiples of half this figure. Effectively there are twice as many spurious=20=
lines as the GRI says, spaced at 7.43Hz. There are about 270 of these
(2000/7.43) in a band of 2kHz wide.

Therefore the proportion of the total mean power which is radiated in a
single spectral line at 136kHz is 4.62e-6 / 270 =3D 1.71e-8.

If we estimate (from the info given by Marco) that each LORAN transmitter radiates 7.5kW mean power, then the radiated power in each LORAN line is 1.71e-8 * 7500 =3D 0.128 mW.

I don't know if I should believe this!  Can anybody find a mistake or a= t
least check my calculations?  All the figures needed for the calculatio= ns
are in this email. Does anyone have any evidence that any of these figures <= BR> are wrong?

73
Peter G3PLX




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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.142.203 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2006 23:28:37 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.1.2/274]); Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:27:31 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c63fe3$35a57600$cb8e7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:27:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.005,BAYES_00=-2.599,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C63FE3.3569F3A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6229 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C63FE3.3569F3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Peter, LF Group, I tried some rough field strength measurements on the Loran noise in the 136kHz band, in an attempt to confirm your calculations. A a field strength reference, I injected a known signal EMF into a single-turn loop RX antenna, using a clamp-on current transformer. The transformer primary has 25 turns, so the induced voltage in the loop is 0.04 times the sig gen output voltage. The equivalent field strength is calculated using the formula V = 2.1e-8*fNAE, which at 137kHz means the induced loop EMF for 1uV/m and a 4m^2 loop is equivalent is 11.5nV, requiring a sig gen output of 0.29uV. I used an RA1792 RX and SpecLab to compare the amplitude of this test signal with the Loran lines. The idea of this set-up is that preamp and RX gain does not affect the comparison, and the only thing that has to be assumed is the relation between loop EMF and field strength. Using this system, I made a quick survey of most of the 136kHz band. The Loran lines are not equal in amplitude; a variation of about 10dB can be present between adjacent lines in a repeating pattern (see the attachment, which is actually the "wanted" Loran signal, where 0Hz on the scale is 100.000kHz - the pattern of amplitude variation is also similar throughout the 137kHz band, but obviously the overall amplitude is much smaller). I logged the minimum and maximum Loran line amplitudes in 200Hz segments, given in dBuV/m: 136.0 - 136.2: -6.1, -15.3 136.2 - 136.4: -6.8, -16.6 136.4 - 136.6: -6.5, -17.0 136.6 - 136.8: -8.6, -14.6 136.8 - 137.0: -5.3, -14.1 137.0 - 137.2: -5.9, -16.3 137.2 - 137.4: -6.9, -14.6 137.4 - 137.6: -6.1, -16.4 137.6 - 137.8: -7.0, -16.2 So, give or take a few dB, the overall level of Loran noise is fairly constant over the band, allthough individual lines can differ by 10dB or more. Averaging together all the min and max figures in dB gives a "typical" level of -11dBuV/m. Rugby is roughly 100km distant from here, so if ERP = (Ed)^2 /50, and typical field strength is 0.28uV/m, the "typical" Loran line has an ERP of 16uW. I also tried measuring the ERP of the signal at 100kHz. The problem here was that the max. RX bandwidth is 6kHz, and the pulse width is noticeably stretched compared to the pictures of the theoretical Loran pulse, so the peak amplitude is probably reduced by the filter. I measured the peak amplitude of the Loran pulses at the RX IF output on a 'scope, and compared this with a CW reference signal in a similar way to the previous measurements. The peak field strength worked out to 19mV/m, making the peak envelope ERP 72kW. I also used a true RMS mV meter (Racal 9301A) to compare peak and RMS amplitudes at the IF output. These were 57mV and 8.5mV respectively (not sure what crest factor the 9301A can cope with; for the Loran signal it must be quite big, but I used the 30mV range instead of the 10mV range to hopefully reduce error from this source), which makes peak/mean power ratio 45:1. Thus the mean ERP would be 1.6kW. Due to the reduced bandwidth, these figures for power are probably a bit low. When I get time, I will get the covers off the RX and see if I can't repeat the measurement in a wider bandwidth. Comparing to Peter's figures, it would seem that my measured values are lower than his calculated values by something of the order of 10dB; 0.128 mW ERP at 100km should result in a field strength of about 0.8uV/m, or -2dBuV/m for each Loran line, wheras I get values between -5 and -17dBuV/m. My ERP figures for the "wanted" 100kHz signal are lower than what Peter assumed, but that could be expected because of the restricted bandwidth of the RX I used, which is only about 1/3 of the nominal Loran band. But I would note that most Loran TX antennas seem to be of the 1000' or more umbrella variety, while at Rugby, I think they must be using one of the old "T" antennas which was presumably the one used for the 73.25kHz signal that used to be such a pain. When we visited the site in 2003, I guessed the T antennas, which were slung from the main 820' masts, but at a level well below the VLF top load, were at somewhere around 600' high, so it might be that the Rugby Loran has significantly less ERP compared to typical Loran stations. Hope this is of interest, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Martinez To: Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels > From G3PLX: > > I calculated the radiated power of a LORAN line now, but I would like other > people to check if I did it right, because the result is surprisingly small. ..... > > If we estimate (from the info given by Marco) that each LORAN transmitter > radiates 7.5kW mean power, then the radiated power in each LORAN line is > 1.71e-8 * 7500 = 0.128 mW. > > I don't know if I should believe this! Can anybody find a mistake or at > least check my calculations? All the figures needed for the calculations > are in this email. 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-2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6230 Alan: Yes, it's true that if the signal is wider than your receiver and is coherent (like a pulse), then the SNR will increase if you widen the bandwidth, inspite of the fact that the noise increases in proportion to the bandwidth. This is because, with a transmission like a pulse, all the separate spectral lines add IN VOLTAGE, so the peak voltage increases faster than the noise level as you make the receiver wider. This explains why you can hear the galloping horses in a 6kHz wide AM receiver by ear (at least in the south of the UK - I can't hear them up here) but not hear anything by ear in a narrow CW filter. The latest version of my GPS-locked receiving idea works in the same way - I can copy these LORAN spurii 25dB better by adding-up the voltage of all 300 of them across the SSB passband than I can by trying to see a single line in a narrow passband. But that isn't really what I find surprising about the 42uW figure I have just calculated. These LORAN lines, when seen on Argo or similar software, are around the same sort of level as the weak TA signals we are exchanging these days. We choose to do the TA tests on frequencies which avoid these lines, so they must be around the same level if they annoy us to that extent. If 42uW is a typical erp of a LORAN line, are we only transmitting signals of that order ourselves? Surely most amateur stations would like to think they are transmitting a few hundred mW. Something doesn't make sense. I really don't mind if I have made a mistake here! 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6591efc1757fa346c7a8bc3247262538a2fd8f8a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs53121wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr2294952ugg; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si2918974uge.2006.03.04.12.02.32; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFcvE-00020D-1w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:00:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFcvD-000204-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:00:11 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFeQW-0000n7-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:36:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 69964 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2006 19:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.96.212 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2006 19:58:54 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c63fc6$10b045e0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <00fa01c63fc0$e082d860$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:58:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.008,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6231 Peter, In one way I think you are right. If you were to select one line you would not be able to hear it. The effect is a little like FM. If you listen to a WB FM signal with a narrow band receiver you dont hear anything, but as you widen the bandwidth to accept more sidebands a signal becomes audible though distorted. The "Galloping Horses" effect is not so noticable in a narrow CW filter, but is quite loud in an SSB bandwidth. This is probably why they dont think it is a problem more than 10kHz away from the carrier !! Subjectively the individual lines on a 30second dot QRSS screen such as ARGO are around 30dB below the minimum audible CW signal. Does that make sense ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Martinez To: Sent: 04 March 2006 19:21 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels > From G3PLX: > > Some small corrections to the calculation of the erp of a LORAN line... > > The mean power of a LORAN transmitter is a little lower than I said. If the > published peak power is P and the Group Repetition Interval (GRI) is G, then > the mean power will be 74.88*P/G for a master station (9 pulses/group) and > 66.56*P/G for a slave (8 pulses/group). For example the Lessay (G=6731) > slave transmitters are radiating 2.45 kW mean power. Thanks to DF6NM for > helping me to get this part more accurate. > > To simplify the calculation derived from the spectrum measurements I showed > in my last posting, the mean erp of spectral lines around 136kHz can be > calculated as 1.155e-4*M/G where M is the mean power calculated as above. > > This makes the spurii from the Lessay slaves (eg Rugby) about 42uW. > (micro-watts). > > Because of the way the pulses interact, individual spectral lines may be up > to 3dB higher than this, or they may cancel out completely at some > frequencies - it would be too complicated to figure out exactly what should > be the level of each individual spectral line and the above calculation is > attempting to give an average level only. > > I am still not sure I believe that we can really hear signals this low in > power! > > 73 > Peter > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 75eb4c7f96c92e28e4eb89bac3e7951fe54e6b82 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs52835wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.245.7 with SMTP id s7mr1961781ugh; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:25:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si3905055ugf.2006.03.04.11.25.15; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFcKJ-0001po-3G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:22:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFcKI-0001pf-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:22:02 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFdpb-0000XP-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:58:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 72214 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2006 19:21:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.156.65 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2006 19:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <00fa01c63fc0$e082d860$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:21:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6232 >From G3PLX: Some small corrections to the calculation of the erp of a LORAN line... The mean power of a LORAN transmitter is a little lower than I said. If the published peak power is P and the Group Repetition Interval (GRI) is G, then the mean power will be 74.88*P/G for a master station (9 pulses/group) and 66.56*P/G for a slave (8 pulses/group). For example the Lessay (G=6731) slave transmitters are radiating 2.45 kW mean power. Thanks to DF6NM for helping me to get this part more accurate. To simplify the calculation derived from the spectrum measurements I showed in my last posting, the mean erp of spectral lines around 136kHz can be calculated as 1.155e-4*M/G where M is the mean power calculated as above. This makes the spurii from the Lessay slaves (eg Rugby) about 42uW. (micro-watts). Because of the way the pulses interact, individual spectral lines may be up to 3dB higher than this, or they may cancel out completely at some frequencies - it would be too complicated to figure out exactly what should be the level of each individual spectral line and the above calculation is attempting to give an average level only. I am still not sure I believe that we can really hear signals this low in power! 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b192bff362b00d22b33e6d3ecff22eeafe2f0d88 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24954wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 01:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.3.20 with SMTP id 20mr1100211nfc; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:57:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43si774674nfa.2006.03.03.01.57.28; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FF70B-00049l-BS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:55:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FF70A-00049c-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:55:10 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FF7wY-0006cZ-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:55:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 18640 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2006 09:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2006 09:54:08 -0000 Message-ID: <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 09:54:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6233 >From G3PLX: I calculated the radiated power of a LORAN line now, but I would like other people to check if I did it right, because the result is surprisingly small. The spectrum measurement made at Rugby gives a chart of dB levels for 2kHz steps over 70-130kHz, going from -8dB in the centre to -53dB at 130kHz, and I extrapolated by eye to estimate the levels at three more steps up to 136kHz. Here are the numbers themselves... -52.00,-49.95,-47.49,-45.03,-43.10,-41.42,-40.24,-38.42,-35.72,-31.13,-28.75,-22.49,-17.82,-13.84,-8.01,-8.46,-13.29,-16.76,-18.44,-21.41,-27.43,-29.16,-33.89,-40.21,-40.09,-43.32,-45.47,-44.45,-48.63,-51.86,-52.94,-55.24,-57.44,-59.54 Notice that there are two 'largest' figures, so although the chart shows these two as being at frequencies of 98 and 100kHz, I am guessing that they are really figures for the centre of bands 98-100 and 100-102kHz. The last three are my guesses for the values for the bands 132-134, 134-136, and 136-138 kHz. From the other information in the spreadsheet I was sent, I am quite certain that this spectrum was measured at an antenna current sampling point. For each of these figures I calculated the relative "current-squared" values from 10^(dB/10) then multiply each one by (F/100)^2, where F is the frequency in kHz. This gives a figure for the relative radiated power in each 2kHz slot. The square-frequency factor arises because the radiation resistance will be proportional to F-squared, and I am seeking to calculate the I-squared-R for each 2kHz slot. The figure I get for the 136-138kHz slot is 0.0021. Next I add all these figures to give me a total of 454.6338 units of power. I don't know what the units are because I don't have enough information about the transmitter or the antenna, but I can divide 0.0021 by it to give me the fraction of the total mean power that is radiated in the 136-138kHz slot. This is 4.62e-6. For the Lessay chain I know the group repetition interval is 67.31mS which means there are 14.85 pulse groups per sec. Because half the pulses are constant polarity and half are alternating, I know that half the energy goes into spectral lines at this spacing and half goes into lines at odd multiples of half this figure. Effectively there are twice as many spurious lines as the GRI says, spaced at 7.43Hz. There are about 270 of these (2000/7.43) in a band of 2kHz wide. Therefore the proportion of the total mean power which is radiated in a single spectral line at 136kHz is 4.62e-6 / 270 = 1.71e-8. If we estimate (from the info given by Marco) that each LORAN transmitter radiates 7.5kW mean power, then the radiated power in each LORAN line is 1.71e-8 * 7500 = 0.128 mW. I don't know if I should believe this! Can anybody find a mistake or at least check my calculations? All the figures needed for the calculations are in this email. Does anyone have any evidence that any of these figures are wrong? 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7711b2ae92f76c9902f1f177e2d999a61023416a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs16448wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr836448uge; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si2027086ugf.2006.03.02.14.57.12; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEwhX-00087k-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:55:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEwhX-00087b-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:55:15 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FExde-0003TE-Se for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:55:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 35148 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2006 22:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2006 22:54:11 -0000 Message-ID: <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:54:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6234 Marco: Thanks for the info about the LORAN transmitter. That's very useful, and it's surprising how low is the mean power. If it's 7.5kW at 180 pulses/sec., then for example the Lessay chain transmitters, which transmit 119 pulses/sec (8 pulses at 67.31mS intervals), is just 5kW if it was the same size transmitter. The Megapulse information says that the Lessay chain transmitters are 250kW and the Sellia Marina transmitter was 165kW, so that comes back to 7.5kW mean power for the Lessay chain transmitters. The information I got from G0MRF should now tell me how this mean power is spread over the 70-130kHz band, and from there I should be able to make an estimate of the power in each spectral line near 136kHz. But not tonight... 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c08aee9b6b65d754ffbbd44fee5b466d9bf3eef4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs14325wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.87.18 with SMTP id p18mr663817ugl; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:48:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si1925243ugf.2006.03.02.12.48.50; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEufM-0007GM-RJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:44:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEufM-0007GD-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:44:52 +0000 Received: from smtp-out03.alice.it ([85.37.17.99] helo=out2.alice.it) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEvbT-0002wR-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:44:56 +0000 Received: from FBCMMO02.fbc.local ([192.168.68.196]) by out2.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:43:51 +0100 Received: from client.alice.it ([192.168.68.142]) by FBCMMO02.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:43:51 +0100 Received: from ideq200s.spin-it.com ([87.30.69.168]) by client.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:43:51 +0100 Message-Id: <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:44:14 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco Bruno In-Reply-To: <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 20:43:51.0901 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C698D0:01C63E3A] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6235 I found it :-) From the manual of the glorious AN/FPN-44A: "The station output power is 100kW at the standard sampling point. The standard sampling point occurs 25 microseconds after the start of each pulse. The peak power is approximately 400 kilowatts. The average power varies directly with the repetition rate of the pulses. Maximum output power averages 7.5 kilowatts; this occurs at a repetition rate of 180 pulses per second" So, the nominal power level was not the peak power, but the useful power at the sampling point (2 and half cycles after the start of the waveform). May be that other transmitters' specifications vary, of course. 73 - Marco IK1ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d686d5376e2ffe029a08713262f1312b397e25fb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs14150wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.243.20 with SMTP id q20mr612974ugh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:36:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si1907462ugf.2006.03.02.12.36.00; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuVK-0007AC-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:34:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuVK-0007A3-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:34:30 +0000 Received: from smtp-out12.alice.it ([85.37.17.107] helo=out12.alice.it) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEvRR-0002rC-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:34:34 +0000 Received: from FBCMMO03.fbc.local ([192.168.68.197]) by out12.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:33:50 +0100 Received: from client.alice.it ([192.168.68.136]) by FBCMMO03.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:33:49 +0100 Received: from ideq200s.spin-it.com ([87.30.69.168]) by client.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:33:49 +0100 Message-Id: <7.0.0.10.2.20060302212851.0383e4f0@spin-it.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:34:13 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco Bruno In-Reply-To: <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 20:33:49.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CCA1D60:01C63E38] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6236 At 21.20 02/03/2006, you wrote: >Marco: >Thanks for the info about the Sellia Marina transmitter. Is this >still operating? I thought that the Mediterranean chain had closed down. Hi Peter, that was about 10 years ago. Yes, it's all down. At that time the Italian Navy was considering to put the Mediterranean chain in operation again. I was involved in the technical study - the two TX were in bad conditions, one partly operating, the other cannibalized, open panels, air ducting dismounted. There were a Digital PDP-8 to restore, too... :-( I just pulled the binder with the full manual of the TX (AN/FPN-44A) from my shelf. Possibly there is a figure for the average power. More later ... Marco From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 88824cc3219a6c1178f4292b4f9e19884c65ff60 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs13977wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.18 with SMTP id b18mr588888ugi; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:26:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y7si1250473ugc.2006.03.02.12.26.10; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuJR-0006zY-3C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:22:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuJQ-0006zP-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:22:12 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEvnz-0001hP-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:58:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 95396 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2006 20:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2006 20:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:20:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.000,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6237 Alan: Yes I have spent some time at the Megapulse site, and that tells me all the power levels, but I assume these are given as the peak pulse power. What I need now is to convert these to mean power then I can calculate the mean power per kHz and from there the mean power per spectral line. There is a picture of a LORAN pulse wave on that site and I guess I could analyse it to calculate the peak-to-mean ratio, but I am just hoping that someone out there may have done it or knows where to find the answer. Of course if we listen just to individual spectral lines then all the transmitters in a chain will add (or subtract) and confuse the problem - I already found this using my coherent weak-signal software - but as you say, if one transmitter is clearly closer than all others in a chain, then it should be possible to use it as a calibration point or at least as a quick check to see if the equipment is working. For example, here in the UK I guess most people will receive Rugby stronger than the others. I am also simply curious to know what is the actual power level of these spurii. Is it milliwatts or watts? How low are we going with our standard QRSS methods? I have now extended the coherent software so I can receive the spurious LORAN signals as pulses. This is about 25dB more sensitive that looking for a single spectral line, because I am effectively adding-together ALL the spurious spectral lines I can hear in the 3kHz SSB receiver. I can, for example, copy the Slonim (Belarus) LORAN transmitter, 1800km away, at midday, on 136.5kHz in a bandwidth of +/-1.5kHz. It's 20dB/noise, but of course that is after 15 minutes of coherently summing the signal. The nice thing about this technique is that the different transmitters in the chain do NOT mix together. I can even read the 8-bit BPSK ident code inside each pulse - the modulation on the spurious emissions is still perfectly readable. Maybe I could even copy some of the USA LORAN transmitters on 136kHz using this idea. No more need for beacons, just record the dx LORAN pulses! Marco: Thanks for the info about the Sellia Marina transmitter. Is this still operating? I thought that the Mediterranean chain had closed down. 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4cbc10edf03b25716f048ea5202d54b675cf2d20 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs13759wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.16 with SMTP id n16mr626223ugi; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:14:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si1895886ugf.2006.03.02.12.14.44; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuA6-0006pp-Q9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:12:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEuA6-0006pg-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:12:34 +0000 Received: from smtp-out04.alice.it ([85.37.17.100] helo=out4.alice.it) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEvec-0001Yw-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:48:29 +0000 Received: from FBCMMO02.fbc.local ([192.168.68.196]) by out4.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:11:14 +0100 Received: from client.alice.it ([192.168.68.141]) by FBCMMO02.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:11:13 +0100 Received: from ideq200s.spin-it.com ([87.30.69.168]) by client.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:11:13 +0100 Message-Id: <7.0.0.10.2.20060302210859.039b6c10@spin-it.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:11:36 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Marco Bruno In-Reply-To: <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 20:11:13.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[745FC4E0:01C63E35] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6238 At 20.53 02/03/2006, you wrote: >Peter have you looked at the "megapulse" web site for power levels. ERPs may >be calculatable if we know the mast heights....these may be available >elsewhere. >http://www.megapulse.com/chaininfo.html > >Lessay and Sylt are quoted as 250kW, there are even powers for the western >Chayka system ! Exact locations are also given. > >Also at a lot of locations you will receive signals from more than one >station maybe from different chains....will this affect you calculations? or >the sensitivity idea. I suppose there will generally be one main site, the >nearest, which will predominate ? Hi all, the only station that I have been inside (Sellia Marina, southern Italy) had a 300m mast and was running 100kW pulse power. From info that I had from the Navy guys there, it was a standard mast for Loran-C TX. 73 - Marco IK1ODO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 891c6d9f571a1057c5fc2da373cfb28f46475290 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs13523wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr1019589ugg; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:58:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1749615ugf.2006.03.02.11.58.53; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEtsq-0006fi-1j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:54:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEtsp-0006fZ-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:54:43 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEvNL-0001EU-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:30:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 93252 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2006 19:53:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.108.214 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2006 19:53:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:53:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.009,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6239 Peter have you looked at the "megapulse" web site for power levels. ERPs may be calculatable if we know the mast heights....these may be available elsewhere. http://www.megapulse.com/chaininfo.html Lessay and Sylt are quoted as 250kW, there are even powers for the western Chayka system ! Exact locations are also given. Also at a lot of locations you will receive signals from more than one station maybe from different chains....will this affect you calculations? or the sensitivity idea. I suppose there will generally be one main site, the nearest, which will predominate ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Martinez To: Sent: 02 March 2006 17:57 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels > Wolf: > > That would be another way to get a calibration, so long as we also knew the > emrp of DCF39. If you are close enough to receive surface wave from DCF39 > and surface wave from Sylt, then a ratio of the DCF39 carrier level to the > level of a typical Sylt LORAN line (at midday) could be used to give the > emrp of the LORAN line. WE can estimate the path loss from the distance > within a few dB so long as the both paths are over similar type of ground. > > But Dave G0MRF also sent me a nice spreadsheet of some measurements which > were made at Rugby when the LORAN transmitter was installed. This is a > record of the classic USCG measurement to confirm that only 1% of the energy > is outside 90-110kHz. This spreadsheet seems to be a chart of the readings > of a spectrum analyser which is changed in 2kHz steps between 70 and 130kHz, > measuring the levels in a narrow bandwidth (<2kHz?) from an antenna-current > monitoring point. From this I can apply an F-squared factor to calculate the > power spectral density. I have to guess the shape of the curve from 130kHz > to 136kHz. > > This tells me (if I did it right) that the spectral density at 136kHz is > about 47.5dB down on the spectral density at 100kHz. The problem now is that > I don't know how to convert this to the mean level of a single spectral > line - I need to know the relationship between the published power of the > transmitter (presumably the peak pulse emrp) and the spectral density (mean > power/kHz) at 100kHz. > > Anyone have any ideas? Maybe this can be measured off-air, or we can figure > it out from published info. > > 73 > Peter G3PLX > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 96f9b9539c249e94e0d26871b7b65d8810e688fc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs12925wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.18 with SMTP id b18mr555427ugi; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:20:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si1862980uge.2006.03.02.11.20.18; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEtHu-0006MH-1K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:16:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEtHt-0006M8-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:16:33 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEuDy-0002Hi-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:16:35 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FEtGs-0005Mz-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:15:30 +0100 Received: from p54868445.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.132.69] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #60) id 1FEtGs-0007KF-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: <44074462.4060509@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:15:46 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.146,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6240 Hi Peter and group, Peter wrote: > If you are close enough to receive surface wave from DCF39 and surface > wave from Sylt, then a ratio of the DCF39 carrier level to the level > of a typical Sylt LORAN line (at midday) could be used to give the > emrp of the LORAN line. WE can estimate the path loss from the > distance within a few dB so long as the both paths are over similar > type of ground. > > But Dave G0MRF also sent me a nice spreadsheet of some measurements > which were made at Rugby when the LORAN transmitter was installed. > This is a record of the classic USCG measurement to confirm that only > 1% of the energy is outside 90-110kHz. This spreadsheet seems to be a > chart of the readings of a spectrum analyser which is changed in 2kHz > steps between 70 and 130kHz, measuring the levels in a narrow > bandwidth (<2kHz?) from an antenna-current monitoring point. I think Dave's "extrapolated" chart will give more reliable data than this "relative" measurement described in my previous message: I live 230 km away from Burg, and 300 km from Sylt. Now I found this: Turning the receiver's AGC off (to get a meaningful result from the audio amplitude), and setting the gain manually so DCF39 just doesn't overload it, I can hardly see the Loran signals on 137.x kHz / QRSS3 mode. The dynamic range is not sufficient for this test. I guess a transmission from an amateur station with well-known radiated power (possibly close to a Loran site) would be better suited. 73, Wolf . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d000153a48c0defe01a53d2a0bc46e386d9cbf13 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11519wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.16 with SMTP id n16mr553551ugi; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si1776092ugc.2006.03.02.09.59.42; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEs3M-0005rz-Jm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:57:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEs3M-0005rq-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:57:28 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEtXt-0008SF-95 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:33:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 56927 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2006 17:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2006 17:57:11 -0000 Message-ID: <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:57:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6241 Wolf: That would be another way to get a calibration, so long as we also knew the emrp of DCF39. If you are close enough to receive surface wave from DCF39 and surface wave from Sylt, then a ratio of the DCF39 carrier level to the level of a typical Sylt LORAN line (at midday) could be used to give the emrp of the LORAN line. WE can estimate the path loss from the distance within a few dB so long as the both paths are over similar type of ground. But Dave G0MRF also sent me a nice spreadsheet of some measurements which were made at Rugby when the LORAN transmitter was installed. This is a record of the classic USCG measurement to confirm that only 1% of the energy is outside 90-110kHz. This spreadsheet seems to be a chart of the readings of a spectrum analyser which is changed in 2kHz steps between 70 and 130kHz, measuring the levels in a narrow bandwidth (<2kHz?) from an antenna-current monitoring point. From this I can apply an F-squared factor to calculate the power spectral density. I have to guess the shape of the curve from 130kHz to 136kHz. This tells me (if I did it right) that the spectral density at 136kHz is about 47.5dB down on the spectral density at 100kHz. The problem now is that I don't know how to convert this to the mean level of a single spectral line - I need to know the relationship between the published power of the transmitter (presumably the peak pulse emrp) and the spectral density (mean power/kHz) at 100kHz. Anyone have any ideas? Maybe this can be measured off-air, or we can figure it out from published info. 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 034daf4e0d626a38bc7dfd5f8a3fed9eeac238d4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10847wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.184.3 with SMTP id h3mr498783ugf; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:19:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si1749672ugf.2006.03.02.09.19.00; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FErPl-0005Z6-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:16:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FErPk-0005Yx-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:16:32 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEsLn-0001Yz-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:16:32 +0000 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FErPi-0007bT-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:16:30 +0100 Received: from p54869689.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.150.137] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #60) id 1FErPi-00049b-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:16:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:16:47 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.151,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6242 Hello Peter, Would a "relative" level indication be helpful too ? I have no calibrated measuring equipment, all I can measure is how many dB's weaker a particular Loran line is compared to the DCF39 . But I think others will be able to provide more meaningful measurements, but if anything else fails I can make such measurements next weekend. Besides this, in the local QRM I cannot hear Loran; I can only see it in the spectrum. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF. Peter Martinez schrieb: >> From Peter G3PLX: > > > Does anyone have any information about the actual level of spurious > emission from the LORAN transmitters in the 136kHz band? The only > specification I know of says something like the out-of-band power > shall be less that 1% of the total, but what I would love to know is > if anyone has actually put numbers on the levels of the individual > spectral lines we can hear. What is their e.m.r.p? This would be a > useful receiver sensitivity calibration feature. > > 73 > Peter > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196684404245296047 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0d6a9abf48b292a5847c2a68347048e1d89c41dc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs4439wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.238.3 with SMTP id l3mr359940ugh; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:06:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si178376uge.2006.03.01.13.06.20; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEYTq-0007Vg-3s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:03:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEYTp-0007VX-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:03:29 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEZy2-0006UJ-Ga for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:39:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 79814 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2006 21:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2006 21:02:13 -0000 Message-ID: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:02:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6243 >From Peter G3PLX: Does anyone have any information about the actual level of spurious emission from the LORAN transmitters in the 136kHz band? The only specification I know of says something like the out-of-band power shall be less that 1% of the total, but what I would love to know is if anyone has actually put numbers on the levels of the individual spectral lines we can hear. What is their e.m.r.p? This would be a useful receiver sensitivity calibration feature. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196738248491237398 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 126cd835245107451a6184c0b9f5c429f65ac95a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs7110wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.251.13 with SMTP id y13mr329161ugh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si566978uge.2006.03.02.04.22.58; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEmnF-0003qG-Tk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:20:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEmnA-0003q7-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:20:24 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEoHa-00056I-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:56:12 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F5174808E for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:20:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001d01c63df3$a3b6c7d0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: References: <000801c63dcf$03d875c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <006001c63de5$e853d0d0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:20:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=-0.018,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C63DFC.044791D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6244 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C63DFC.044791D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roelof , Yes it is interesting to see the difference in propagation, there is = perhaps the=20 reason of your antenna, here I use a loop of 2m * 2m. My friend F5YG who = is to 400 km in north has to him also large differences in propagation with = me !=20 73 qro Jean-pierre f1afj ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: LF: Re: TA=20 > Hello Jean-Pierre, >=20 > This is interesting. Yesterday night you had good copy of XKO, but I = could=20 > only see a few very faint traces. I had excellent copy of VO1NA, = WD2XES and=20 > WD2XNS. > Last night VO1NA was poor here with only one fair signal around 02:00 = UTC. > XES was absent I believe and from XNS I can see some letters, but no = full=20 > call. > This time XKO had a nice signal here, see screenshot. >=20 > We live 567 km apart. Bearing from you to me is 21 degrees and from = here to=20 > you 204 degrees. Propagation seems to change quite a bit from one = location=20 > to an other. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Roelof Bakker,=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C63DFC.044791D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roelof ,
 
Yes it is interesting to see the = difference in=20 propagation, there is perhaps the
reason of your antenna, here I use = a loop of=20 2m * 2m. My friend F5YG who = is
to 400 km in north has to him also = large=20 differences in propagation with me !=20
 
73 qro Jean-pierre = f1afj

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:41=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA

> Hello Jean-Pierre,
>
> This is interesting. = Yesterday=20 night you had good copy of XKO, but I could
> only see a few very = faint=20 traces. I had excellent copy of VO1NA, WD2XES and
> = WD2XNS.
> Last=20 night VO1NA was poor here with only one fair signal around 02:00 = UTC.
>=20 XES was absent I believe and from XNS I can see some letters, but no = full=20
> call.
> This time XKO had a nice signal here, see=20 screenshot.
>
> We live 567 km apart. Bearing from you to = me is 21=20 degrees and from here to
> you 204 degrees. Propagation seems to = change=20 quite a bit from one location
> to an other.
>
> = Best=20 regards,
>
> Roelof Bakker,
> ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C63DFC.044791D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196738248491237398 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 618b24a49766cebbab8423682059f8ef03509864 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6541wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.31.1 with SMTP id i1mr744594ugj; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:22:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y7si851852ugc.2006.03.02.03.22.10; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FElqw-0003NN-SX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:20:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FElqw-0003NE-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:20:14 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEmmq-0007B7-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:20:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 48862 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2006 11:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.43.93 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2006 11:19:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c63deb$32c02560$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000801c63dcf$03d875c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <006001c63de5$e853d0d0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:14:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.044,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6245 Hi Roelof, I have the same effect here, I think we are seeing the effects of interference (optical meaning) or "out-phasing" between multiple paths. There has been a slight increase in geomagnetic activity recently but not normally enough to have a lot of effect...it may just have changed the D-layer profile a little. See my www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/laterst.htm 73 Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Roelof Bakker To: Sent: 02 March 2006 10:41 Subject: LF: Re: TA > Hello Jean-Pierre, > > This is interesting. Yesterday night you had good copy of XKO, but I could > only see a few very faint traces. I had excellent copy of VO1NA, WD2XES and > WD2XNS. > Last night VO1NA was poor here with only one fair signal around 02:00 UTC. > XES was absent I believe and from XNS I can see some letters, but no full > call. > This time XKO had a nice signal here, see screenshot. > > We live 567 km apart. Bearing from you to me is 21 degrees and from here to > you 204 degrees. Propagation seems to change quite a bit from one location > to an other. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197535846524619951 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d72cd42a5c2279feb1bb25180e62dbbaecd36166 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs34001wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.12 with SMTP id j12mr1289485qbm; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si823642qbc.2006.03.10.22.39.38; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHxk1-0006A3-2e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:38:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHxjz-00069u-Jj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:38:15 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHykB-0000Fx-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:42:34 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id DCB57478E1 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:38:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000f01c644d6$5d70ee10$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:38:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.012,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C644DE.BEEDECD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6246 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C644DE.BEEDECD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! Good Copy of WD2XGJ and WD2XES, Nothing here NA , XKO , XNS ! Big statics the last night the captures are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C644DE.BEEDECD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
Good Copy of WD2XGJ and = WD2XES,
Nothing here NA , XKO , XNS = !
Big statics the last night
the = captures are on :=20
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C644DE.BEEDECD0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197776193506016808 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 67374feeeec743d3213f77e3a7ecd0c08a8b5e8b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs7733wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.96.5 with SMTP id t5mr7535qbb; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:19:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si1199523qbe.2006.03.13.14.19.51; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIvKo-0006SY-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:16:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIvKo-0006SP-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:16:14 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIwtR-00019v-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:56:27 +0000 Received: from 88-106-145-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.145.19]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2006 22:14:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAGN2FUSIDCw Received: from 88-106-145-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.145.19]:4317 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FIvFV-0006zq-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:10:45 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:14:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.234,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hafler_P-1500_trans=B7nova_Amplifier_on_e-bay?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6247 Hi All, Look on e-bay - �31.00 at the moment. Full Power Bandwidth: 0.15Hz to 300kHz (+0/�3dB) 73 - Gary. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hafler-P-1500-trans-nova-Amplifier-AS-NEW-BOXED_W0QQit emZ5876599825QQcategoryZ14973QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198048123744300894 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 026bc77d1df8b9479c7ede509ffc4d9ae3afa68f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs18822wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.206.4 with SMTP id i4mr1647727qbq; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:55:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si1635966qbq.2006.03.16.14.55.12; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK1Lc-0006h3-JS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:53:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK1Lc-0006gt-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:53:36 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2vT-0001yC-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:34:59 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GMqJYZ009184 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:52:19 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GMqJnW008640 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:52:19 +0100 Received: from i577a4a30.versanet.de (i577a4a30.versanet.de [87.122.74.48]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:52:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20060316235219.fdgjedh1r79s8s00@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:52:19 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <03af01c64947$caea0d80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <03af01c64947$caea0d80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.213,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6248 Zitat von Peter Martinez : > Dave: > > The 136520 signal is undoubtedly G3JKV who has been transmitting to > me. I don't think he realises how strong he is! > > 73 > Peter G3PLX > > > > Hi Peter, is this a GPS disciplined transmission? if so pse tell us the exact QRG. Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198048123744300894 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 50dac810273ef0676080b106c920d321f1aaa2f3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs17935wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.101.9 with SMTP id d9mr1379643pym; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j76si1404628pyd.2006.03.16.14.22.04; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0pe-0006HH-5q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:20:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0pd-0006H8-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:20:33 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2PU-0001ha-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:01:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 82386 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 22:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.50 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 22:20:12 -0000 Message-ID: <03af01c64947$caea0d80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:20:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.743 Subject: LF: Re: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6249 Dave: The 136520 signal is undoubtedly G3JKV who has been transmitting to me. I don't think he realises how strong he is! 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197734924348852639 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 926c447a05bf5f99cb52162f8e9b7796eb293881 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs63859wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.222.12 with SMTP id z12mr2047108qbq; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:23:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si721938qbe.2006.03.13.03.23.53; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIl6f-0004MD-0a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIl6e-0004M4-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:20:56 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIm7v-0008Sg-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:26:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 14984 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2006 11:19:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.121.155 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2006 11:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.423,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.233 Subject: LF: Re: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6468F.F7480E00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6250 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6468F.F7480E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean Pierre, whats all this about a "season " for LF DX ?? This seems = to be an enduring myth. The only thing is that the storm noise makes it = more uncomfortable to listen in summer, but on quiet nights there are = just as good a signals available, though not for as long, as in winter. = In fact if we are to believe the pundits the Spring Equinox is supposed = to be the best period of the year. I am not personally convinced of that = because it depends much more on the state of geomagnetic activity. Over = the next twelve months as we pass through the solar minimum the LF = propagation conditions should remain quite good, exceppt for the shorter = nights and thunderstorm QRM. 73 de Alan G3NYK www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/lastest.htm for my Propagation report. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: 13 March 2006 07:08 Subject: LF: TA last night Hello all on the list , Nothing this night !=20 Season LF is very advanced, I stop my recordings of night. Thank you at :=20 Jay , Warren , John , Dex , Joe , Laurence , Brian=20 for their beacons ! Thank you at all =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6468F.F7480E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jean Pierre, whats all this about a "season " for = LF DX ??=20 This seems to be an enduring myth. The only thing is that the storm = noise makes=20 it more uncomfortable to listen in summer, but on quiet nights there are = just as=20 good a signals available, though not for as long, as in winter. In fact = if we=20 are to believe the pundits the Spring Equinox is supposed to be the best = period=20 of the year. I am not personally convinced of that because it depends = much more=20 on the state of geomagnetic activity. Over the next twelve months = as we=20 pass through the solar minimum the LF propagation conditions should = remain quite=20 good, exceppt for the shorter nights and thunderstorm QRM.
 
73 de Alan G3NYK
www.alan.meli= a.btinternet.co.uk/lastest.htm =20 for my Propagation report.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jean-Pierre=20 M=E9r=E9
Sent: 13 March 2006 07:08
Subject: LF: TA last = night

 
Hello all on the list ,
 
Nothing this night !
Season LF is very advanced,
I stop my recordings of night.
Thank you at = : 
Jay , Warren , John , Dex , Joe , Laurence , = Brian=20
for their beacons !
Thank you at all=20
 
 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj=20 JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C6468F.F7480E00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197404401788793517 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9827329904d4a3a160fa4ff1afb92ae4f79ef792 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10944wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.108.6 with SMTP id g6mr1052343nfc; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si481404nfb.2006.03.09.11.50.22; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHR74-0002ze-3S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:47:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHR73-0002zV-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:47:53 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHS6X-0002dK-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:51:27 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.147] (helo=mx4.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FHR61-0002IO-Tj; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:46:49 +0100 Received: from p54869bae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.155.174] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx4.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FHR61-0002Qv-LX; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:46:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4410864B.1070800@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:47:23 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group , VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com, Spectrum Lab user's group X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.138,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: SpecLab reloaded: V2.6 build 8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6251 Greetings all, I have just uploaded a new Spectrum Lab version to the download site. New: - the FFT-based filter can now be used to shift and invert frequencies (which is excellent for listening to VLF directly, but also for DC-receivers) - more of the DSP blackboxes can now be parametrized through the interpreter (and, therefore, can be accessed from external programs too) - there is a remove-control function for some Icom radios through the CI-V port (so far, this was used for monitoring SW beacons) - the auto-ranging function of the time-domain scope is a bit slower now - the "Slow CW" (QRSS) mode settings in the "Quick Settings" menu were changed More info, and of course the download link, is here: http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197353450777049925 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 25677fabba8a424b1acf7962f465118296847ad3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1446wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.205.18 with SMTP id h18mr819257qbq; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:20:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si52167qbq.2006.03.08.22.20.32; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHET9-0007Xx-Hm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:17:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHET7-0007Xo-Nh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:17:49 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHG02-0002l2-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:56:14 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 538C1547AF for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:16:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001701c64341$123b01b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:16:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.089,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: Fw: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64349.6B66CA50" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6253 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64349.6B66CA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , small conditions !=20 I copied : XGJ, NA and XNS ( only some traces ) the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64349.6B66CA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all on the list !
The last = night , small=20 conditions !
I copied = : XGJ,=20 NA and XNS ( only some traces )
the = captures of this=20 night are on : =
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
73 qro = Jean-Pierre=20 f1afj JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C64349.6B66CA50-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197150794112507983 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8df37def5d9bb395ec7e5f16024548c8db770e42 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1088wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.94.1 with SMTP id w1mr2709392nfl; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:39:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si3686996nfb.2006.03.06.16.39.24; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGQ9M-0003vG-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:34:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGQ9L-0003v7-Qi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:34:03 +0000 Received: from bay116-f27.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.37] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGRfU-0005H0-3t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:11:36 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:33:40 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:33:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:33:37 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2006 00:33:40.0883 (UTC) FILETIME=[C84D4630:01C6417E] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.071,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: conditions Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6255 Overnight no Part 5 sigs seem from USA. NPG wasnt all that strong at any time of the night but if I was loking at the right signal peaked just before local West coast dawn but only viz at dot 10. My Eprobe packed up this morning sometime so missed Eu overnight. Water was in one of the connectors so will be able to fix that. What we cant fix at the moment is the tropical depression heading our way and the continuous wet stuff faliing from the skies. Laurence, 9M6/GM4DMA, Karambunia, Sabah, Malyasia. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196904072845481702 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f56a06eea74756767f1ea8d5bada5ae9a35e17c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs44430wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr1649197ugj; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:17:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si1135944uge.2006.03.03.23.17.52; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFQxg-00087a-Mv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:13:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFQxa-00087R-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:13:50 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFSSe-00035b-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:50:20 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 5032D47E53 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:13:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001601c63f5b$231154b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:13:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.103,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C63F63.84897170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6256 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C63F63.84897170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , small conditions !=20 I copied : XGJ, XKO, NA =20 the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C63F63.84897170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all on the list !
The last = night , small=20 conditions !
I copied = : XGJ, XKO,=20 NA  
the = captures of this=20 night are on : =
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
7= 3 qro=20 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C63F63.84897170-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197481619327851786 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4f07dd70c8c2378d2960beb7669a666f0dd25d60 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs24652wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.150.16 with SMTP id c16mr783782qbo; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:17:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si1724212qba.2006.03.10.08.17.43; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHkH7-00020h-7N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:15:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHkH6-00020Y-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:15:32 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHlH2-0002Ew-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:19:33 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060310161523m11001iv93e>; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:15:24 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c64460$2eb80980$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <11610402978.20060310170329@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:32:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.527,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Mar, 9/10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64436.45310100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6257 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64436.45310100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hartmut Thanks for the captures. XNS shut down around 0500Z. Jay =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hartmut Wolff=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 9/10 Copied NA, XES, XGJ and XNS. It seems Warren was sending one "XGJ" string overnight, only. Captures 22:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64436.45310100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hartmut
 
Thanks for the captures. XNS shut = down around=20 0500Z.
 
Jay  
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hartmut=20 Wolff
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 = 11:03=20 AM
Subject: LF: T/A Mar, = 9/10

Copied NA, XES, XGJ and XNS. It seems Warren was = sending one=20 "XGJ"
string overnight, only.
Captures 22:00-07:00 can be seen=20 here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestL= F.htm


73
Hartmut

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C64436.45310100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197953751190493579 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 71c4f9a31464202e35ee3d15d65c0f7db0ec0d34 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs5944wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.92.7 with SMTP id u7mr523085nfl; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:22:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si5532366nfb.2006.03.15.13.22.03; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJdNd-0007HU-DJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:18:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJdNc-0007HL-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:18:04 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJeQ4-0000TL-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:24:42 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FJdNZ-0004Gk-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:18:01 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XKAGpkZFgeuhAWMw5v90en9SgHcN6IkjCd6SGAGCt6BrEIgsDGZZ8o@[84.133.88.243]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FJdNR-0dsMj20; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:17:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:17:53 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1277346560.20060315221753@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XKAGpkZFgeuhAWMw5v90en9SgHcN6IkjCd6SGAGCt6BrEIgsDGZZ8o X-TOI-MSGID: e6e49cc6-267d-4904-a5ae-faf7a20dec1b X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.039 Subject: LF: EU signals tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6258 Captured RA3YO in QRSS10, S57A and PA3FNY in QRSS3 tonight. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196725666158251196 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: de8c0925f95ff52cd472fff08d4dd6f584a79f5a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs4441wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.2 with SMTP id r2mr191719ugh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:02:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k2si1277679ugf.2006.03.02.00.02.11; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEihZ-00025R-HR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:58:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEihV-00025I-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:58:17 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEkBp-0002v1-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:34:01 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id EF62E6D205 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:57:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000801c63dcf$03d875c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:57:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.027,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63DD7.64A75A30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6264 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63DD7.64A75A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night the conditions were poor, good copy of VO1NA, Only some trace of XKO, XGJ, XNS.=20 The captures of the night are : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 to all Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63DD7.64A75A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night the conditions were = poor, good copy=20 of VO1NA,
Only some trace of XKO, XGJ, XNS. =
The captures of the night are : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
<= /FONT>
73 to all  Jean-Pierre=20 f1afj       JN06ht
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63DD7.64A75A30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197446151030882169 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ea8221b348ba1028d2f6b2b55c429f7e1194a36b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs17781wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.19 with SMTP id o19mr337301qbb; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:53:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si958509qbq.2006.03.09.22.53.58; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHbTA-0006c9-KJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:51:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHbT5-0006c0-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:51:19 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHd0N-0006GX-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:30:07 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C448B214B7 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:50:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001601c6440e$fc72a300$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:50:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.044,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C64417.5DACCC60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6265 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C64417.5DACCC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all ! Good Copy of VO1NA between 20:00 and 00:00, after 00:00 the wind made turned my loop I did=20 not copy anything any more! the captures of this night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C64417.5DACCC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

Hi all !
 
Good Copy of VO1NA between 20:00 and=20 00:00,
after 00:00 the wind made turned = my loop I did=20
not copy anything any = more!
the captures = of this night=20 are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C64417.5DACCC60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197295781561722813 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0411d84a6455fb8ce95ab594d57ae0e543c2f619 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs23794wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.19.2 with SMTP id w2mr510315ugi; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:03:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si789379ugc.2006.03.08.07.03.55; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH09E-0003Hn-Qj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:00:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH09E-0003He-8G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:00:20 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH187-0000j6-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:03:18 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter76.comcast.net ([204.127.197.158]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060308145932m1400gieuje>; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:59:32 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter76.comcast.net; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:59:32 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:59:32 +0000 Message-Id: <030820061459.19015.440EF153000E948900004A4722064244130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.194,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: ARGO or SPECTRAN? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6266 Hello the list, I have been using Spectran for my QRSS receiving, mostly out of habit. I have had excellent results with Spectran and Wolf's Spectrum Lab so I saw no reason to change. I saw the following notice on the lwca main web page: "Argo has somewhat similar performance to Spectran, but interacts better with the user's soundcard and is customized for QRSS modes. " Am I missing something by using Spectran instead of Argo? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198296143366328847 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a3a4824c28950db683c4d7eb4831b0498c36c0ea Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs22365wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.19.8 with SMTP id w8mr3567073ugi; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si1783198uge.2006.03.19.08.04.14; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0MH-0005gE-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:02:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0ME-0005g5-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:02:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0164.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.164] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL1x7-0008Fd-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:44:45 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.205.59) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 440E1F0F0016B919 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:00:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c64b6e$33e2b8a0$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:16:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.500,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C64B3E.41A1B4D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6267 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C64B3E.41A1B4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Vernal and Steve agree with my observations that a large vertical is a better RX antenna in a quiet environment. My location like theirs is out in the country and quiet and suitable for a vertical. Long haul signals from the USA on my 80m vert loop are well down or non existant at times on the loop. In a quiet environment the small mini vertical could well outperform a small loop. It would be interesting to hear from those using such antennas about their experiences. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C64B3E.41A1B4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
Vernal and Steve agree with my = observations=20 that a large vertical is a better RX antenna in a quiet = environment.=20 My location like theirs is out in the country and quiet and suitable for = a=20 vertical.
Long haul signals from the USA on my = 80m vert loop=20 are well down or non existant at times on the loop.
In a quiet environment the small mini = vertical=20 could well outperform a small loop. It would be interesting to hear from = those=20 using such antennas about their experiences.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C64B3E.41A1B4D0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197645983030263115 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0059802fd3f10e090408c47ec66c21febaccb79c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs48765wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.178.15 with SMTP id a15mr1564709qbf; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si8568qbe.2006.03.12.03.50.12; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIP2f-0001dn-UK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:47:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIP2f-0001de-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:47:21 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIQ3S-0001RM-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:52:16 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060312114635011008tgb4e>; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:46:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c645ca$9da22f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <246831740.20060312095633@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:46:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.522,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Mar, 11/12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6271 Hartmut, Jean-Pierre and other TA enthusiasts XNS: Intermittant transmissions at various power levels then off for the night about 0230Z. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:56 AM Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 11/12 > Poor T/A conditions last night. Good copy of 1 "XGJ" string, nothing > more seen from Warren. Traces of XES were visible the whole night. But > only weak copy of 2 "XES" strings. About 23:00 and 02:20 there were > faint traces on 137.781 but nothing readable. > > A capture 03:00-06:00 can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196756811086181426 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 79349de65c7ce8e5292d7e877c732208689f7dd7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10018wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr896912ugg; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si1702343ugf.2006.03.02.08.17.12; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEqQo-0005A9-TZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-341132143-1141233273=:10517 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; FORMAT=flowed Content-ID: On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Jay Rusgrove wrote: > ... > I would be interested to see a capture if you could send one along. > ... Hi Jay, my post was rejected as the attachment was too big. I tried to do it as small as possible, And I resend it in two tiny parts now. The config was for QRSS120, the signal is a little bit compressed... but anyway... Best 73 ! 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relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FG30M-0000fZ-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:51:30 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.a1.716d1344 (17079) for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:12:41 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=0.111,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_30_40=0.021,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: Grabbers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a1.716d1344.313cbc59_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6276 --part1_a1.716d1344.313cbc59_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary, yes, 136315.8 to 136320.5 is usually on=20 http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm (scroll down to lowest panel). Sinc= e 20:00, there is a fast trace just=20 above the unid carrier on 136319.9, also visible on the fullband display - l= ooks=20 like your callsign. 73 es good luck Markus In einer eMail vom 05.03.2006 22:12:04 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= =20 g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk: =20 > OOOPs!! > That freq should have been 136.320KHz > Sorry. > 73 > Gary. >=20 > Hi All, > Which of the active LF Grabbers are monitoring around the 136.200khz area? > Regards, > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor >=20 --part1_a1.716d1344.313cbc59_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary,

yes, 136315.8 to 136320.5 is usually on http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm (scroll down t= o lowest panel). Since 20:00, there is a fast trace just above the unid carr= ier on 136319.9, also visible on the fullband display - looks like your call= sign.

73 es good luck

Markus


In einer eMail vom 05.03.2006 22:12:04 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk:

OOOPs!!
That freq should have been 136.320KHz
Sorry.
73
Gary.

Hi All,
Which of the active LF Grabbers are monitoring around the 136.200khz area? Regards,
Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


 --part1_a1.716d1344.313cbc59_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197035288315000534 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2fe2c543aecf276e77f8b551191143b195eecd66 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs62764wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr2517663uge; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40si788919ugc.2006.03.05.10.03.30; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFxWu-0007bG-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:00:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFxWt-0007b7-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:00:28 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFyUQ-0000Lv-0o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:01:59 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Mar 2006 17:59:20 -0000 Received: from p54905E60.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.94.96] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 05 Mar 2006 18:59:20 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <003701c6407e$e4d29220$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: References: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:01:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.057,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: LF performance FT-847 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C64087.4610B320" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6277 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C64087.4610B320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So what can be done in order to improve sensitivity for this rig FT -847 = ? Any hints welcome ( using also G0mrf pre- amp - derviate ) I also tried the G0MRF preamp in front of a Yaesu FT847 but the 847 is = so deaf on 137Khz. that the gain of the pre-amp is insufficient which is = a pity as the receiver of the 847 is doing a fair job with the built in = 500Hz Mech. filter in combination with the adjustable bandwith control = in the LF DSP on the HF bands . 73,William PA0WFO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: RE: LF: What's the best receiver Uwe, DK1KQ ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C64087.4610B320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So what can = be done in=20 order to improve sensitivity for this rig FT -847 = ?
Any hints = welcome ( using=20 also G0mrf pre- amp - derviate )
 
 
 I = also tried the=20 G0MRF preamp in front of a Yaesu FT847 but the 847 is so deaf on = 137Khz.=20 that the gain of the pre-amp is insufficient which is a pity as the = receiver of=20 the 847 is doing a fair job with the built in 500Hz Mech. filter in = combination=20 with  the adjustable bandwith control in the LF DSP  on = the HF=20 bands .
73,William=20 PA0WFO
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Lots of fading, and only NA had a few "O" call strings. 73s Roelof, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197414892523060487 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: aafffd0282985cb28d5c1b3032fbe9004975d6ea Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs12998wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.155.14 with SMTP id h14mr21338qbo; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si1134303qbe.2006.03.09.14.37.07; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHTiZ-0003uw-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:34:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHTiT-0003un-Em for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:34:41 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHUi1-0003d0-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:38:19 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id CA1CA49229 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:34:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007901c643c9$939f83b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:34:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.012,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C643D1.F5048DA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6288 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C643D1.F5048DA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0076_01C643D1.F5048DA0" ------=_NextPart_001_0076_01C643D1.F5048DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all ! Good copy of VO1NA now ! see attachment=20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_001_0076_01C643D1.F5048DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all !
Good copy of VO1NA now !
see attachment
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6289 Hi Alan, Thanks to you also. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- Gary....Wolf DK4U Alan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197014910724825218 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e936db499a3e2baff639cb1615723202b2be0be6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs60244wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 04:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr2661126ugg; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:39:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40si579292ugc.2006.03.05.04.39.36; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFsUP-0006ih-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:37:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFsUP-0006iY-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:37:33 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFtzv-0004z8-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:14:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 84071 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2006 12:36:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.35.159 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2006 12:36:12 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c64051$63e94b40$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <010101c6403b$8b692610$90a24054@MLB> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:15:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.008,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6290 Hi Martin, as Dave says the most cost effective way would be Albertos mod, even if you have to pay someone to do it for you. The Lowe receivers HF 150 and 225 are good I dont know the 125 but i think that is probably in the same class. I have a 150 and used it some quite a while. Its main difficulty is lack of a narrow IF filter, but an external audio filter can get round some of that problem. The other difficulty is the lack of an RF gain control and an AGC off switch, essential for waterfall watching I find. The AOR 7030 (or 7030plus) are excellent performance receivers, the only niggle from "operators" being the rather contorted menu system to change things, but they are not cheap and mostly require the addition of CW filter for best performance. SLMs can be useful,but they have drawbacks in that they are intended for for line measurements, and are not designed for the sort of dynamic range needed on a radio receiver. They have no front-end preselection so can suffer from IMD problems if you have strong local BC stations. This can be solved with the use of a bit of passive filtering or an "out-of-box" soltion in a G0MRF filtered 136kHz preamp. My SLM does not have an audio output and requires extra hardware of software (Alberto's program?) to produce an audio signal. Then for general listening they do not have AGC at all so it is a bit hard on the ears. For weak signal work the stability of the "unsynchronised" versions is generally inadequate. Usually the problem is not the reciever, several epople have used Direct Conversion and simple TRF set-ups, it is the aerial and the local noise level that determines what you can hear. Local geography is not so much of a problem on LF though, ground sloping down to the sea in a prefered direction is obviously superb. The two secrets of LF receive aerials are height, and spacing from habitation. In the latter case even increasing the distace of an aerial by a few extra feet away from the EMI radiated by dimmers, and TV SMPSUs can make a big difference. Good Luck we could do with a an active LF station in Wales again. As for general experimentation, eyesight may not be a problem. I regard it as a croc-clip, and choc-block breadboarding area, and many of the first experimental TXs seen in pics were spread of the bench "in Kellogs packets". And DX can be worked on relatibely low powers I have had a report from 700kms on a 2W DC input "PA" stage. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Cheers de Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Evans. To: Sent: 05 March 2006 09:59 Subject: LF: What's the best receiver? > Good morning all. > > I'm Martin, GW3UCJ, located in the Swansea Valley in South West Wales. It's > a very poor radio location, surrounded by hills. > > I've been interested in 136 for several years, listened on and off as > workload permits, but had very little time to get properly involved. > > I've been subscribed to this newsgroup for a while. > > I have a Kenwood TS950 and have also used a couple of W & G SLMs - I > currently have a SPM-14. I also had a Datong converter for a while. > > I know that the 950 is recognised as being stone deaf on 136 - I've only > ever heard - or should I say seen - a few UK stations, nothing more - and I > don't like using the selective level meters. > > Bearing in mind that price is important, what would you suggest for a good > receiver on 136? > > I know that the TS850 is good, but that's too expensive at the moment. > > Are such things as the Lowe HF125/150/225 etc any good? Or the AOR 7030? > > Your comments will be much appreciated. > > Regards, > Martin Evans email: info@molliesloft.com > Mollie's Loft Books > 31 Cilmaengwyn > Pontardawe > Swansea Tel UK: 01792 863 556 > SA8 4QL From US: 011 44 1792 863 556 > UK > > Website: www.molliesloft.com > > Specialising in Welsh interest, the Sciences & Technology. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198116415534375053 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d45420b6eea901e04ab19857867cd49f4596c28b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs2641wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.180.12 with SMTP id c12mr136248qbf; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:27:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si2004185qba.2006.03.17.08.27.31; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKHlY-0004f7-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKHlY-0004ey-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from smtpout0154.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.154] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKJLh-00023x-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:08 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.87) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793004F7BDD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:25:06 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c649df$5981a0c0$57e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:15:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.543,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: LOPT CORES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C649DE.126A94E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6293 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C649DE.126A94E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you can get original lopt cores directly from an old tv the cores have a clasp around the outer perimiter that keeps the two halves bolted tight together, its a metal strap but seems to have no influence on the total inductance. If you only have the cores you could make a strap, as above 73 Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C649DE.126A94E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you can get original lopt cores = directly from an=20 old tv the cores have a clasp around the outer perimiter that keeps the = two=20 halves bolted tight together, its a metal strap but seems to have no = influence=20 on the total inductance.
If you only have the cores you could = make a strap,=20 as above
 
73 Mal/G3KEV
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C649DE.126A94E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197174708749615331 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a5ccbec44923b29a2b313324023159ba88962101 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1323wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.253.15 with SMTP id a15mr3038711qbi; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:59:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si1811092qbe.2006.03.06.22.59.30; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGW88-0005Bs-Uh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 06:57:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGW83-0005Bj-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 06:57:07 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGXeE-0007Ga-7a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:34:46 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 187BC867EB for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:56:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001f01c641b4$3a8b1530$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:56:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.098,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: Fw: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C641BC.9BFE7700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6295 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C641BC.9BFE7700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , verry poor conditions !=20 I copied : XGJ and NA , XNS (only trace !) the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C641BC.9BFE7700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Hello all on the list = !
The last=20 night , verry poor conditions !
I copied :=20 XGJ
and NA , XNS  (only trace = !)
 
the=20 captures of this night are on : =
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
<= /FONT>
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj = JN06ht
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C641BC.9BFE7700-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198081245676266107 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b4625a05335dcb29b4a02f9d9436728c9ba1bfbf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs25260wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.236.6 with SMTP id n6mr19251qbr; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:08:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si984176qba.2006.03.16.23.08.31; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK91V-00011M-9u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:05:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK91P-00011D-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:05:15 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKAbL-0005HK-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:46:47 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B857754862 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:04:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004d01c64991$05a828f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:04:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.082,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C64999.65B82A30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6296 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C64999.65B82A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions for me ! I copy some traces of : XNS , XGJ , XKO the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C64999.65B82A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list = !
The last night , poor conditions for me = !
I copy some traces = of : XNS=20 , XGJ , XKO
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C64999.65B82A30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197015869001739017 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 02eb699a78b88678956683804d25187ec905e770 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs60352wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.6 with SMTP id c6mr1006646ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j3si2105051ugd.2006.03.05.04.54.49; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFsjf-0006pD-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:53:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFsje-0006p4-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:53:18 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFth4-00074N-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:54:43 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3112.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A36FF580008E for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:53:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from MLB (user-656.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.64.162.144]) by mwinf3112.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5F03D5800086 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:53:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305125312389.5F03D5800086@mwinf3112.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <015a01c64053$c235b240$90a24054@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <010101c6403b$8b692610$90a24054@MLB> <002e01c64051$63e94b40$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:53:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Re: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6300 (clipped.....) > Usually the problem is not the reciever, several epople have used Direct > Conversion and simple TRF set-ups, it is the aerial and the local noise > level that determines what you can hear. Local geography is not so much of > a > problem on LF though, ground sloping down to the sea in a prefered > direction > is obviously superb. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK That's a VERY sore point, Alan....before I married, I lived on a hill, overlooking the sea...superb, on every band. Then after marrying we bought a house in a valley....and the difference! It's as if all my front ends have blown. I've saved your email Alan, full of information as it was, and I'll be acting on it in the coming months. Thanks, Martin GW3UCJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198384792468452506 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73f70962747d207afc3de57c4463540795f16f13 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14755wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.105.10 with SMTP id h10mr1083832qbm; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:33:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si257519qba.2006.03.20.07.33.15; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMHC-0000o4-VK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:26:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMHC-0000nv-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:26:34 +0000 Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLNsN-0008HN-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:09:23 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.131.165]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IWF00DEUMVHCGZ3@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:26:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:26:06 -0500 From: Andre Kesteloot To: rsgb_lf_group Message-id: <441EC98E.5030303@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax;nscd1) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.011 Subject: LF: Manassas BPL Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6304 The BPL over HF controversy stills rages on :-) 73 Andr=E9 N4ICK *********************************** >http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-03-19-powerline_x.htm?POE= =3DTECISVA >=20 >Net over power lines irks amateur radio lovers=20 >By Peter Svensson, The Associated Press >George Tarnovsky can hear the Internet as he drives down Main Street= in Manassas, Va., a rapid rattle emanating from the ham radio in his= Chevy Tahoe. > =09 > Ham radio enthusiast George Tarnovsky checks the interference on hi= s radios in his truck near BPL power lines. =09 =09Ham radio enthusiast George Tarn= ovsky checks the interference on his radios in his truck near BPL pow= er lines.=09 = =09 >By Kevin Wolf, AP=09 > >"Suddenly you hear this incredible signal," Tarnovsky said. > >The radio interference, which can resemble rapid clicks or the whine= of a phone-line modem, comes from a system that provides high-speed = Internet access to about 1,000 Manassas customers through their power= lines. The interference makes ham radio all but impossible in the Wa= shington, D.C., suburb, Tarnovsky said. > >But in this fight of old and new, it appears that the old - ham radi= o has been around for a century - will be left standing. Broadband ov= er power line, or BPL, is in danger of becoming an also-ran in the ra= ce to bring broadband Internet to the American home, even as it's ove= rcoming some technical hurdles. > >BPL is an attractive idea because of the power grid's ubiquity. It h= as been touted as a "third wire" into the home, a possible competitor= to broadband via cable and telephone wires - and a way to bring high= -speed service to rural areas underserved by cable and phone companie= s. > >However, most of the utilities that have tried it have backed away, = largely because of skepticism about the economic viability of the tec= hnology in the face of competition. > >BPL hasn't lived up to its early promise as a rural broadband altern= ative, either, because of a technical quirk that is also the source o= f the ham radio frustrations. For broadband, a radio-frequency signal= is applied to the power line, much like a high-frequency signal is a= pplied to phone lines to create a digital subscriber line, or DSL. > >But unlike phone and cable wires, power lines that run above ground = can act as large radio antennas, emitting the high-frequency signal a= s radio waves. According to the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), t= he national ham radio association, radio waves from an improperly des= igned system can drown out amateur radio within a quarter of a mile. > >The antenna nature of the line also means the signal loses its energ= y quickly, while the line picks up radio noise from the surroundings.= A long line running in a rural area needs amplifiers at short interv= als, adding to the costs; even so, the signal gets lost after a few m= iles. The operator of the Manassas broadband system, Communication Te= chnologies, or ComTek, said it has made adjustments to minimize inter= ference. > >Tarnovsky lives five miles outside the town, but to him, that's no e= xcuse for interfering with ham radio bands. He said the Internet sign= al threatens the communications services that ham radio operators can= provide from their cars in emergencies such as Hurricane Katrina. "I= f we see interference, regardless of where it is, we have to report i= t to the FCC," he said. > >The Federal Communications Commission has generally spoken warmly ab= out BPL's potential, but this month, after two years of complaints fr= om ham radio operators, the FCC told Manassas to eliminate any harmfu= l interference. > >Nonetheless, some companies are pushing forward, and some variants o= f the technology now get the thumbs-up from the national ham radio gr= oup. The ARRL is optimistic about trials conducted with Motorola's BP= L technology, which uses only the short line from the nearest transfo= rmer to the home, using wireless links in place of the interference-c= ausing long lines. > >It also has no problem with the USA's other major commercial BPL dep= loyment, in Cincinnati, which uses a different technology. There, loc= al utility Cinergy formed a joint venture with Current Communications= of Germantown, Md., to sell broadband for $30 a month. It's availabl= e to about 50,000 homes, but officials won't say how many have signed= up. > >Current is starting this year on a much larger deployment with utili= ty TXU, covering 2 million homes in Texas, mainly in the Dallas area.= It will use the next generation of its technology, allowing speeds u= p to 10 megabits per second, 10 times as fast as Cincinnati's and fas= ter than most cable and DSL broadband links. > >For the hams, though, it's still too early to heave a sigh of relief= . They say BPL systems that interfere with their bands are still allo= wed under FCC rules. They want tougher regulations now that non-inter= fering technologies such as Current's and Motorola's are available. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197326485574907412 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9e122189ef1eef1813d22ad13a6022d06ec501fb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs29947wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.238.17 with SMTP id l17mr787768ugh; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si1131470uge.2006.03.08.15.22.09; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH7x8-0005zR-FE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:20:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH7x8-0005zI-0m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:20:22 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH9Tz-0008G5-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:58:39 +0000 Received: from mx02.versatel.de (mx02.versatel.de [212.7.146.2]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k28NJxJs019867 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:20:00 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k28NJxmS013799 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:19:59 +0100 Received: from i577a4a2c.versanet.de (i577a4a2c.versanet.de [87.122.74.44]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:19:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20060309001959.08hsh4q8hdc044k0@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:19:59 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.098,BAYES_00=-2.599,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: Dawn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6306 Zitat von Laurence KL1X : > Its around 2300z here and just past local Sabah dawn - dcf39 is still > there at a reasonable sig and Ill keep an eye on that thru the day > here. > > Not a lot seen but a weak broken carrier identified on 136.31879 and > another a shade higher of 136.319 which dont seem to be Loran > related. These signals peaked some 30 mins pre my local dawn. > > Laurence OJ86 Borneo > > > > Hi Laurence, (DJ8) WX is on 136.3188kHz, mode QRSS60. on 136.319kHz is "AQC" with slightly QRH downwards. best regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197326485574907412 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 128365764fa75eed64f9b5cd386aa3be40ad1500 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs29857wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr571593ugh; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:11:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si1140164ugf.2006.03.08.15.11.57; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH7mm-0005rU-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:09:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH7mm-0005rL-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:09:40 +0000 Received: from bay116-f23.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.33] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH8lr-0003c1-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:12:48 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:09:11 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:09:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:09:08 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2006 23:09:11.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FA5EF10:01C64305] X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.008,BAYES_05=-0.413,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: Dawn Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6307 Its around 2300z here and just past local Sabah dawn - dcf39 is still there at a reasonable sig and Ill keep an eye on that thru the day here. Not a lot seen but a weak broken carrier identified on 136.31879 and another a shade higher of 136.319 which dont seem to be Loran related. These signals peaked some 30 mins pre my local dawn. Laurence OJ86 Borneo From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197553737073196411 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ff4aef34a1109ee44a6fc2c2f187d291d9bfbf5c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs36221wra; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.15 with SMTP id o15mr1348548qbb; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:24:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si1519703qbe.2006.03.11.03.23.59; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FI2As-0006h5-Hg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:22:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FI2As-0006gw-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:22:18 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FI3ic-0005LW-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:01:34 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060311112147011008sacne>; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:21:52 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c644fd$feff59c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000f01c644d6$5d70ee10$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:21:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.227,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: TA the last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6308 XNS off last night. Back tonight. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre M�r�" To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: LF: TA the last night Hi all on the list ! Good Copy of WD2XGJ and WD2XES, Nothing here NA , XKO , XNS ! Big statics the last night the captures are on : http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199259012079271449 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f2aa6f69c044bc3c67af80efbfa0b59e5e7fad88 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs1291wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.142.17 with SMTP id p17mr1053357qbd; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:08:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si255938qba.2006.03.29.23.08.37; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOrAp-0007QU-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:02:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOrAm-0007QL-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:02:24 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOsKF-0003sX-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:16:18 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 41EAC480C0 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:01:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <004501c653c7$d0affe70$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:01:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.065,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C653D8.93376400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6309 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C653D8.93376400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night I copy only WD2XGJ=20 with a strong static activity ! the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C653D8.93376400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night I=20 copy only WD2XGJ 
with a strong static activity = !
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C653D8.93376400-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198909306732391731 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e5023d4906f2d0aaeeb83f6653b0f826cd157cf1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs22541wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.233.3 with SMTP id f3mr1798259qbh; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:30:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si1798211qba.2006.03.26.02.30.12; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNSU5-0000Gl-8i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:28:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNSU4-0000Gc-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:28:32 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNU7S-0006Yb-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:13:36 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FNSTm-0003E5-00; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:28:14 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rXl-94ZvreJiQHqSpVqmznVI9V1cgTHRdfQCXo0imGkf0BBtSvrxQc@[84.133.107.239]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FNSTk-1Vag2i0; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:28:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:28:10 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <54717637.20060326122810@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rXl-94ZvreJiQHqSpVqmznVI9V1cgTHRdfQCXo0imGkf0BBtSvrxQc X-TOI-MSGID: 8f214667-4b95-4440-ad69-6231757622c4 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.054 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 25/26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6310 Low static and good signal levels. Copied NA, XGJ and XKO last night. Captures 23:00-07:30 UTC can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196736008643150286 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5c1744eb5b017da18d733a45fd6d9e3a0989a7dc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6162wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 02:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.251.13 with SMTP id y13mr280431ugh; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si1422976uge.2006.03.02.02.46.34; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FElHI-00035r-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:43:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FElHH-00035i-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:43:23 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEmli-0004Pd-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:19:10 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20354 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FElFn-000A4N-Qi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:41:52 +0000 Message-ID: <006001c63de5$e853d0d0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000801c63dcf$03d875c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:41:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.036,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C63DEE.49EA7210" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6313 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C63DEE.49EA7210 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jean-Pierre, This is interesting. Yesterday night you had good copy of XKO, but I could only see a few very faint traces. I had excellent copy of VO1NA, WD2XES and WD2XNS. Last night VO1NA was poor here with only one fair signal around 02:00 UTC. XES was absent I believe and from XNS I can see some letters, but no full call. This time XKO had a nice signal here, see screenshot. We live 567 km apart. Bearing from you to me is 21 degrees and from here to you 204 degrees. Propagation seems to change quite a bit from one location to an other. 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X-Gmail-Received: 3cd4a916e6cfeecba08a7046ac383d12bb323586 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs70050wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 01:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.23.15 with SMTP id a15mr2733252ugj; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:49:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si2280028ugc.2006.03.06.01.49.44; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGCI8-0001d5-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:46:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGCI7-0001cw-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:46:11 +0000 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.54]) by 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LF: Re: TA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6314 On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Roelof Bakker wrote: > ... > Excellent conditions here with a nice "fiver". > This screenshot was taken at 05:00 UTC. > > I have squeezed the screenshot in a 22 kB file. > It does not show all the details, but you might get the general picture! > ... Very, very nice picture, Roelof, your rig and, above all, your aerial are doing a good job. Many thanks. Best 73 to you and all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197091539063890974 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 32c4d7b1a64155d8f7a750b260a54d9968f21034 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs69557wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.184.5 with SMTP id h5mr2822464ugf; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si4333305uge.2006.03.06.00.57.34; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGBUi-0001S0-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:55:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGBUi-0001Rr-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:55:08 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGD0c-0005Ld-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:32:25 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:22981 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGBUR-000L6c-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:54:52 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c640fb$9a4770e0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000e01c640f4$83e1f7a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:54:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.032,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64103.FBC0ED30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6315 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64103.FBC0ED30 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jean-Pierre, Excellent conditions here with a nice "fiver". This screenshot was taken at 05:00 UTC. I have squeezed the screenshot in a 22 kB file. It does not show all the details, but you might get the general picture! 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hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:08:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:08:48 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 16:08:50.0388 (UTC) FILETIME=[981B8940:01C63E13] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.093,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: 9M8 again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6316 Sorry also forgot to say Ive got the ftp load working ok from here in Borneo and you can see what Im looking at real time via http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Thats if the server stays up - nothing to see at the moment as no loran lines vizible. Laurence 9M6/GM4DMA at the Nexus @ Karambunai, Sabah From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198045032220713541 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 928ee8a9980f68843868e1a80ea44a8a36ecb4a5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs17640wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.27.10 with SMTP id a10mr676310qba; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si2640178qba.2006.03.16.14.10.24; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0dp-000626-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:08:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0do-00061x-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:08:20 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2Df-0001Zq-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:49:43 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GM7w5p005144 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:07:59 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2GM7wBc006029 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:07:58 +0100 Received: from i577a4f17.versanet.de (i577a4f17.versanet.de [87.122.79.23]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:07:58 +0100 Message-ID: <20060316230758.x009jlxhy57o4gko@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:07:58 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.294,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6317 Zitat von Dave G3WCB : > > Dear LF, > > Anybody else hear the strong unid carrier on 136.52 kHz? It's been there for > at least one hour...It looks green-ish on Marcus's grabber ;-) > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > Hi Dave, yes, if it is the same one: 136,52017kHz in the middle 8dB above noise. regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198045032220713541 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fdff57a96a074e19f23c8e8dae752e714259ca70 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs16906wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.1.4 with SMTP id d4mr1053590nfi; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:32:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y23si6326208nfb.2006.03.16.13.32.56; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK00X-0005kr-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:27:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK00X-0005ki-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:27:45 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK1aN-0001IE-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:09:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 77264 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 21:27:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.12.175 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 21:27:23 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <8bf118410603161239p7b86d7d7i@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6318 Dear LF, Anybody else hear the strong unid carrier on 136.52 kHz? It's been there for at least one hour...It looks green-ish on Marcus's grabber ;-) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198924593369745410 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b1ab640fdddc80be5569556601a4f46e5c393c2c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs24926wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.242.5 with SMTP id u5mr1840071qbr; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si2131384qba.2006.03.26.06.33.10; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWGy-00015J-CO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:31:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWGy-00015A-1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:31:16 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNXuR-00086q-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:16:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 59082 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2006 14:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.125.179 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2006 14:29:54 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:31:09 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.543,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6319 Hi, Gary. It was Wolf, DK4U. Check Marcus's grabber for the full picture ;-) http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 26 March 2006 15:19 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: HELL CQ - Who? Hi LF, Just switched my display back ti SpecLab just in time to see a CQ in HELL go off the screen, saw CQ DK???? but neede a little more brightness to read it. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196873372005368986 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bec2fddfd002dad872d2e2b576bbba0d5bc1b81e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs36592wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.243.20 with SMTP id q20mr1340106ugh; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si2987745ugf.2006.03.03.15.09.54; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFJN3-0006pO-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:07:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFJN3-0006pF-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:07:37 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFKs2-0006xR-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:43:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 61791 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2006 23:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.121.169 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2006 23:07:11 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:08:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=-0.074,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: CFH back on? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C63F17.5D1F5510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6320 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C63F17.5D1F5510 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01C63F17.5D1F5510" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C63F17.5D1F5510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF, looks like CFH is visible again tonight on 137 kHz. Plainly audible, here. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C63F17.5D1F5510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=20 LF,
 
looks=20 like CFH is visible again tonight on 137 kHz. Plainly audible,=20 here.
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6322 Dick, I operated from Amberley museum site on 136kHz some years ago. The antenna was strung out over a small but deep valley and I used small trees as anchor points. The antenna was about 100m long. Antenna length and a good ground seem more important than height. Build in a lot of taps onto the loading coil to accommodate the wide variations of loading required for different sites, antennas and grounds. There is a road bridge, about 35m high, across a deep valley (which is a park) in the centre of Luxembourg city - it would make an ideal LF antenna support if you could get access to it. There are lots of hills, valleys and trees throughout Luxembourg. Peter, G3LDO > >On 22/03/06, Dick wrote: > > >>Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, >>and as efficient as possible? >>Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. >> >>73 >> >>Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198588554218267222 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 17a20cd9bd2728cebca6ff67c9043e27d5cfe715 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs3331wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.158.4 with SMTP id k4mr1405902qbo; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:09:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si319411qba.2006.03.23.00.09.17; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMKoD-0003Yo-Qs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:04:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMKoD-0003Yf-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:04:41 +0000 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48] helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMMQQ-0005T5-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:48:33 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060323080417.WQLV29040.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:04:17 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060323080417.MRNG9667.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:04:17 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:04:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4422567C.31698.2DD2B2@localhost> In-reply-to: <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.241,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6323 I have found a kite to be very effective, but it is dependent on wind speeds, so you need a back-up. Mike, G3XDV ========== > Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, > and as efficient as possible? Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198588554218267222 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6d18725f0a2cf5d9c58a9bbf8094d0a10d6dbe0a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs12576wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.116.5 with SMTP id t5mr1105382qbm; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si256892qba.2006.03.22.13.31.58; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMAtU-0001T9-Ty for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:29:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMAtU-0001T0-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:29:28 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMBzN-0003uo-M9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:39:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 23020 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2006 21:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.72]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Mar 2006 21:29:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: References: <002101c64ac4$2f109860$2102000a@ibm> <8bf118410603190722u455ba0f7q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:20:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.370,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6324 Any suggestions for a DX-pedition antenna which is easy to built up, and as efficient as possible? Should be capable of withstanding 1kW. 73 Dick, PA4VHF (LX/PA6Z..........) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196897755993201011 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3c400876f70a0ca0322554ef9d1b96df0a931a17 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs42153wra; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.31.1 with SMTP id i1mr1959991ugj; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:37:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si2781487ugf.2006.03.03.21.37.28; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFPPp-0007s8-NZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:34:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFPPp-0007rz-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:34:53 +0000 Received: from smtp12.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFQMb-0005mL-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 06:35:38 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9923C1C0008D for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:34:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-57.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-57.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.57]) by mwinf1203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED52D1C0008C for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:34:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060304053445972.ED52D1C0008C@mwinf1203.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:33:48 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> Message-ID: References: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6325 XGJ 2240 ==> 0000, then 0310 ==> 0500 UTC. 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198493977914815652 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 88f0df97c7dcfd35c9dc8d83841854c7bfcb0044 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14922wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.124.13 with SMTP id b13mr28407qbn; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:28:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c5si3356757qbc.2006.03.21.12.28.43; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLnQq-0005Ay-RE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:26:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLnQq-0005Ap-GS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:26:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLp2X-0002Tj-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:09:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 11428 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2006 20:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2006 20:24:55 -0000 Message-ID: <442062F5.6060907@w1tag.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:32:53 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: LF: XES WOLF 5 Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6332 We speculated last year that the slower variations of WOLF might have better static-crash immunity, so it's time for some tests. XES will run WOLF at the 5 b/s rate tonight on 137.577 kHz, starting around 2330 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197215846682536876 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c49929423eeb5135714353d258e123e31aede6b8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs8720wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 09:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.193.17 with SMTP id v17mr3393551qbp; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:53:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d12si3215118qbc.2006.03.07.09.53.23; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGgKl-0006jF-PZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:50:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGgKl-0006j6-Bk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:50:55 +0000 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGhr6-0004iO-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:28:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 319 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2006 17:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (151.46.39.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2006 17:50:25 -0000 Message-ID: <440DC7E3.4020703@usa.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:50:27 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: moon-net@list-serv.davidv.net, Linrad mailinglist , LF Mailing List , Post LWCA Lowfer References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.329,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Winrad V0.90 build 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6337 Greetings all, I have just uploaded build 21 of Winrad. The changes are : * Mouse captured by the SPx Avg combo boxes - fixed. * Winrad now remembers between sessions the last directory visited when opening Wav files. * Averaging now optionally applicable to the two waterfalls. * CW Peak code tweaked. * The Contrast range has been slightly expanded. * Some minor aesthetical retouches. The User Guide has been updated with the new functions. Winrad build 21 can be downloaded from http://www.weaksignals.com To join the Winrad discussion group, visit http://join.winrad.org 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197920823795819031 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e12bbfcdda62a9e603fbd20d812372d648f9d846 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs1377wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.151.16 with SMTP id y16mr411904qbd; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:29:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si787993qba.2006.03.15.08.29.10; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYpY-00068P-23 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYpX-00068G-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:35 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJaOs-0003cN-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:07:29 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter01.comcast.net ([204.127.197.111]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060315162609m11001ka2ke>; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter01.comcast.net; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:07 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:07 +0000 Message-Id: <031520061626.7489.4418401F000163FE00001D4122007374780B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.044 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6339 Hi Uwe, Thank you for the capture. I made a brief pause in transmission around 03:05 UTC and resumed transmission about 20 minutes later and went QRT at 04:50 UTC. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de > Hi Warren, > did you stop the transmission at 0305UTC ? > pse see attachment. > regards > Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197920823795819031 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 23440d1aa8eb067db48eebed92db2ec215557cb8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs167wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.150.17 with SMTP id c17mr274320qbo; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:38:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f18si961940qba.2006.03.15.04.38.40; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 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It appeared that the noise was picked up on the shield of the coax running inside the house. Connecting the shield to a good radio earth before entering the house, solved my noise problem. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196617364479595814 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ed8852ea075be13b3b10140ad9e282c7f557c568 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs5283wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.91.4 with SMTP id t4mr838894ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si349455ugc.2006.03.01.00.03.45; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMEb-0002is-3C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMEa-0002ij-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:56 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FENiZ-0006ae-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:34:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 96702 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.89 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <010a01c63d05$cf3fe600$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <440516F4.5000600@hifidelity.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:57:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6343 Mike; As Steve says, you will need a huge choke in the braid to have much effect. What you are trying to do is form a potential divider, with your choke at the top and 'the impedance-to-ground of the base of the whip' at the bottom, to attenuate noise from the shack getting onto the whip. My suggestion, which is much easier, is to go for an isolating transformer rather than a braid choke. Put two equal windings on opposite sides of a small toroid so that the stray-capacitance is kept to a minimum. Don't put the transformer into a metal box with coax connectors on each end! Another thing to realise is that if your isolation transformer is really working, then you MUST install a ground connection at the base of the whip. If you put the isolation transformer at the whip end of the feeder, then the whip cannot use the feeder braid as a ground return so it really does need a separate connection to ground. Remember this if you plan to put the whip in a tree! I would suggest installing the transformer at the shack end of the feeder run for this reason, but other people may not agree with me. Try it both ends and see what happens. If the whip has a pre-amp inside it which needs power, then you have another problem - how to get power to it without re-introducing the noise up the power cable. That's a more difficult one to solve. The quick answer is to run the whip pre-amp from a battery. The proper answer is to run AC power through a low-capacitance isolating transformer and build the whip PSU at it's base. 73 Peter G3PLX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196617364479595814 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 75e121cfabb56b901a433470bc52b838f5060337 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2678wra; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.96.7 with SMTP id y7mr746096ugl; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:16:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q1si180050uge.2006.02.28.20.16.23; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEIiy-000215-Cj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEIix-00020w-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:14:03 +0000 Received: from omc3-s5.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.79]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEKCs-0004ej-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:49:20 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.122]) by omc3-s5.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:13:41 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:13:41 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:13:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <440516F4.5000600@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:13:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:13:37 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2006 04:13:41.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[85E43CF0:01C63CE6] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.028,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0141_01C63CB4.39382B00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6344 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C63CB4.39382B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Steve. Yes I have many of those FT240-77 cores here. I will = wind one up tonight on the feedline. Easy fix huh? Mike ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Dove To: we0h Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Hi Mike, Bingo. Except you need a whole lot more than beads will win=20 you - ideally reactance up into the kohms. 10-20 turns of=20 coax around a big lump of 77 or 'J' material (I use the 2.4=20 inch toroids Jay was selling a few months ago, though 1.4"=20 work well, too). This is the Whacking Great Common-Mode=20 Choke (W.G.C-M.C.) I mentioned the other night. Should be=20 at the grounding point, on the coax going to the receiver,=20 *not* the antenna. Cheers, Steve MIKE REID wrote: > Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna=20 > lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to = add=20 > them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where = the=20 > ground wire connection on the braid is. > =20 > Thank you, > =20 > Mike > WE0H > WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc > EN35hj ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C63CB4.39382B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Steve. Yes I have many of those FT240-77 cores here. I = will wind=20 one up tonight on the feedline. Easy fix huh?
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Dove
To: we0h
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, = 2006 9:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Common Mode = Noise on=20 Feedline...

Hi Mike,

Bingo.  Except you need a whole = lot more=20 than beads will win
you  -  ideally reactance up into = the=20 kohms.  10-20 turns of
coax around a big lump of 77 or 'J' = material=20 (I use the 2.4
inch toroids Jay was selling a few months ago, = though 1.4"=20
work well, too).  This is the Whacking Great Common-Mode =
Choke=20 (W.G.C-M.C.) I mentioned the other night.  Should be
at the = grounding=20 point, on the coax going to the receiver,
*not* the=20 antenna.

        =20 = Cheers,

         &nbs= p;      =20 Steve


MIKE REID wrote:
> Would adding ferrite beads = on the=20 feedline on a active whip antenna
> lessen the common mode = noise issue?=20 Where would the best place to add
> them if this is a good = idea? I was=20 thinking right at the point where the
> ground wire connection = on the=20 braid is.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>=20 Mike
> WE0H
> WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc
>=20 EN35hj
------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C63CB4.39382B00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196617364479595814 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 835cfd942fb9776378a0ce48fa06be50ceec1335 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1811wra; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.87.16 with SMTP id p16mr737959ugl; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:20:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si85397uge.2006.02.28.19.20.46; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEHpv-0001hS-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:17:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEHpu-0001hJ-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:17:10 +0000 Received: from omc1-s41.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEIlA-0001dJ-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:16:22 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.122]) by omc1-s41.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:17:01 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:17:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:16:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: "Lowfer_Post" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:16:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:16:58 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2006 03:17:01.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B6AC5B0:01C63CDE] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.105,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0127_01C63CAC.4F579860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6345 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01C63CAC.4F579860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna = lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add = them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the = ground wire connection on the braid is. Thank you, Mike WE0H WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc EN35hj ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01C63CAC.4F579860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna = lessen=20 the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add them if = this is a=20 good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the ground wire = connection on=20 the braid is.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI on the air = 185.3026kc
EN35hj
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B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:37:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.009,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Hey Joe...Gotcha! 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As this cropped Argo shot shows, the first of the V got clipped, but the rest was solid with the settings of 60 second dots, normal speed. Looks like my loop weathered last weekend's gale force winds OK! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_001_0153_01C64A24.33CA1E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joe, Lowfers,
 
As I had predicted, with Mitch off this = evening I=20 managed to pull
the elusive VO1NA out of the = noise.  As this=20 cropped Argo shot
shows, the first of the V got clipped, = but the rest=20 was solid with
the settings of 60 second dots, normal=20 speed.
 
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Looks like my loop weathered last = weekend's gale=20 force winds OK!
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
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1FFnub-0005Hv-Jy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:44:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFnub-0005Hm-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:44:17 +0000 Received: from smtp17.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.111]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFpQ7-00031L-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 09:21:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1702.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF8717000089 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:43:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-131.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-131.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.131]) by mwinf1702.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1BCFF7000088 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305074356113.1BCFF7000088@mwinf1702.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:42:57 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <011501c63fe0$c454e500$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Message-ID: References: <01cd01c63d73$69bc4f80$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4407287F.8000306@freenet.de> <029801c63e22$bb20b190$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <003a01c63e33$08290cc0$67b0fea9@lark> <02a101c63e36$cf0e6120$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <7.0.0.10.2.20060302213743.0383a228@spin-it.com> <02b901c63e4c$38a127c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <030401c63ea8$6a6b90e0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <00fa01c63fc0$e082d860$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <000a01c63fc6$10b045e0$67b0fea9@lark> <011501c63fe0$c454e500$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.020,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 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Sunrise 0628 UTC in JN09XI 73 QRO ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198196997509698148 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6b78eca0fa0ccb667fb2c13a1e886e0b8bf0b9ea Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs7525wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.237.14 with SMTP id o14mr183103qbr; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:48:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12si182981qba.2006.03.18.05.48.21; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKblp-0000zn-Bw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:47:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKblo-0000ze-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:47:04 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.200.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKcpa-0003Jh-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:55:04 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006031813461401400c37vae>; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:46:19 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c64a92$55acb3a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <1975372373.20060318131424@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:45:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.769 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Mar, 17/18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6358 Hartmut Looks like good conditions at your location last night! Thanks to everyone for the reports and captures. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:14 AM Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 17/18 > Copied VO1NA in QRSS30, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Best signals 04:00-06:00. > > Captures 22:00-07:30 can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196638614004060911 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 22ff9f4513a7dabba50f2678f8e60ad4bb5cf990 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6258wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.184.5 with SMTP id h5mr964785ugf; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si397183uge.2006.03.01.00.58.31; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEN8r-00039z-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEN8q-00039q-Gv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:57:04 +0000 Received: from omc2-s12.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEO4C-0003zg-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:56:23 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.120]) by omc2-s12.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:56:55 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:56:55 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:56:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" References: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:56:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:56:52 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2006 08:56:55.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[171F46C0:01C63D0E] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.058,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: Re: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C63CDB.CAE138E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6359 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C63CDB.CAE138E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looked at the schematic of the PS (Astron RS-35M) and low and behold, = there was the ground wire for the negative terminal going right to the = A/C mains ground lug. Clipped the ground wire and re-assembled PS. Fired = up Mini on a band from DC to 22kc. Wow what a huge difference with = nearly zero zip nada buzzsaw sucker anymore. Solid VLF signals as well = as quiet noise up the dial with Wahoo signals thru the MW BC band = (1.7mc). Now to make up a long patch cord that will get a zillion turns = on one of those big sucker toroids. That'll be tomorrow, I'm beat... A huge thanks Bill & to all the others who have told me about grounding = the feedline inside as well as outside and isolation transformers. The = noise is nearly gone now and I will get it down to nothing very soon. 73's, Mike WE0H ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Ashlock To: lowfer@lwca.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Mike, You would need a rather large bead/core that would allow enough turns = to have enough inductance to be effective. BTW check out the reference = that John D posted yesterday for another approach. The better the ground = under the probe the less the inductance required if you use the bead = approach. The location should be in the shack to prevent the lead-in = from becoming an antenna radiating junk to the probe. Why not feed the DC on the probe side of a typical 1 to 1 core in the = shack? Like I said last night the power supply must be isolated from = ground. The typical transformer feeding the rectifier in that supply = should provide this isolation, but you have to be sure the house safety = ground is not connected to the - side of the supply.=20 Bill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MIKE REID To: Lowfer_Post=20 Cc: rsgb_lf_group=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [LW] Common Mode Noise on Feedline... Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip antenna = lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to add = them if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the = ground wire connection on the braid is. Thank you, Mike WE0H WD2XGI on the air 185.3026kc EN35hj ------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C63CDB.CAE138E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looked at the schematic of the PS (Astron RS-35M) and low and = behold,=20 there was the ground wire for the negative terminal going right to the = A/C mains=20 ground lug. Clipped the ground wire and re-assembled PS. Fired up Mini = on a band=20 from DC to 22kc. Wow what a huge difference with nearly zero zip nada = buzzsaw=20 sucker anymore. Solid VLF signals as well as quiet noise up the dial = with Wahoo=20 signals thru the MW BC band (1.7mc). Now to make up a long patch cord = that will=20 get a zillion turns on one of those big sucker toroids. That'll be = tomorrow, I'm=20 beat...
 
A huge thanks Bill & to all the others who have told me about = grounding=20 the feedline inside as well as outside and isolation transformers. The = noise is=20 nearly gone now and I will get it down to nothing very soon.
 
73's,
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Ashlock
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 = 12:06=20 AM
Subject: Re: [LW] Common Mode = Noise on=20 Feedline...

Mike,
 
You would need a rather large bead/core that = would allow=20 enough turns to have enough inductance to be effective. BTW check = out the=20 reference that John D posted yesterday for another approach. The = better the=20 ground under the probe the less the inductance required if you use the = bead=20 approach. The location should be in the shack to prevent the = lead-in from=20 becoming an antenna radiating junk to the probe.
 
Why not feed the DC on the probe side of = a typical=20 1 to 1 core in the shack? Like I said last night the power supply must = be=20 isolated from ground. The typical transformer feeding the rectifier in = that supply should provide this isolation, but you have to be = sure the=20 house safety ground is not connected to the - side of the supply.=20
 
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 MIKE REID
Cc: rsgb_lf_group =
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, = 2006 10:16=20 PM
Subject: [LW] Common Mode = Noise on=20 Feedline...

Would adding ferrite beads on the feedline on a active whip = antenna=20 lessen the common mode noise issue? Where would the best place to = add them=20 if this is a good idea? I was thinking right at the point where the = ground=20 wire connection on the braid is.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI on the air=20 185.3026kc
EN35hj
------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C63CDB.CAE138E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196927234687369253 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 66527c1eb33f19c731a00c4ca4faf5016cd2183e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs49675wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 05:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.43.10 with SMTP id v10mr1191725nfj; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:26:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m15si841392nfc.2006.03.04.05.25.59; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFWjL-0000mj-Bq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:23:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFWjK-0000ma-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:23:30 +0000 Received: from ncc1.infomail.es ([195.235.39.3] helo=infomail.es) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFXgF-0008Fh-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:24:25 +0000 Received: from joan ([172.16.101.251]) by infomail.es (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #1141478601.181160001; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:23:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01c63f8e$d21168a0$05001aac@joan> From: "Joan Morros" To: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:23:26 +0100 Organization: lleida.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-imss-version: 2.038 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:37.39206 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Infomail-Id: 1141478601.46C4010A811066.38601 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY=0.061,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML=0.031 Subject: LF: Rain last night in Madrid Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C63F97.3390B150" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6360 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C63F97.3390B150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear lw friends: In the last night (above 22 UTC) it've start to rain in the citty of= Madrid. . The signal falls 15 dB in my antenna 500 km. far (in Lleida, NE= of Spain). Manolo (EA4BVZ) is desolated. When the antenna will dry we will inform about it. Thanks Juan, EA3FXF _____________________________________________________________________ Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C63F97.3390B150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear lw friends:
 
In the last night (above 22 UTC) it've= start to=0D rain in the citty of Madrid. . The signal falls 15 dB in my antenna 500 km.= far=0D (in Lleida, NE of Spain).
 
Manolo (EA4BVZ) is desolated.
 
When the antenna will dry we will inform= about=0D it.
 
Thanks
 
Juan, EA3FXF
________________________________________________________________= _____
Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C63F97.3390B150-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196783667607437946 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 891ef932f2589842f9787f5177eca2941eff4755 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs16736wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.220.6 with SMTP id s6mr1154185ugg; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1884749ugf.2006.03.02.15.24.05; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEx7y-00007W-NZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:22:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEx7y-00007I-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:22:34 +0000 Received: from bay116-f3.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.13] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEy48-0003aj-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:22:41 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:22:26 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:22:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:22:24 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 23:22:26.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ACE3260:01C63E50] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.091,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: Eu overnight in 9m6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6361 Its now 2313z and the suns been up for about 45 mins or so. I checked captures and saw nothing in the band 136,316-322 or so overnight apart from a weak loran line. DCF39 remained vizible till 15 mins after sunrise and allowed me to check calibration. Now switched to Americas for my dusk here and pre dawn USA starting around @ 22z till west coast sunrise around 1440z ish Regards Laurence Borneo From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196639016814080055 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 54ee8faaaafeb00c359e7de6146c329955f18de9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6406wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 01:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.225.15 with SMTP id x15mr992446nfg; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:04:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si387008nfe.2006.03.01.01.04.55; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FENDm-0003FZ-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FENDl-0003FQ-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:02:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0162.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.162] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEO99-00041y-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:01:28 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.66) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793002EC20E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:02:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c63d0e$cb5cf060$42e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:58:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.098,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: NAVSTAR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6364 Many thanks to all those that replied to my enquiry. It is a LF or MF active antenna because it has two ferrite pot core chokes in the DC line. Agn tnx de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196666272517845237 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3fa0b7da2c32cbc09640e307517e79721842792e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11607wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.88.16 with SMTP id q16mr193436ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si670745ugc.2006.03.01.08.18.08; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FETyj-0005dv-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FETyj-0005dm-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:05 +0000 Received: from smtpout0180.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.180] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEVSs-0003Yy-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:50:33 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.204.46) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793002F9D19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:12:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c63d4a$fdf2cd60$2eccfc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:17:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.084,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Noise Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6365 Hi All Reducing Noise in home LF receiving Installations. See article by WA4GHK lwca.org/library/articles/wa4ghk/gnd_isol.htm This might help those with mains noise problems on LF rx. 73 Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198007120448021792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c7973ea5cae3c1580e60185509bfc2457665fced Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs8374wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.13 with SMTP id o13mr1044573qbb; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:26:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si2275265qba.2006.03.16.05.26.19; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJsS0-0002gX-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:23:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJsS0-0002gO-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:23:36 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] helo=imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJu1f-0005B2-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:04:50 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.245.8af4075 (58550) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <245.8af4075.314abfdc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:19:24 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.347,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1142515164" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6370 -------------------------------1142515164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 16/03/2006 11:28:43 GMT Standard Time, knaap159@zonnet.nl writes: Hello ....... I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of them............ That chap David may be able to help with one or two. _www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/kits.htm_ (http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/kits.htm) Or BFI Optilas in Germany is the European stock centre 73 -------------------------------1142515164 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 16/03/2006 11:28:43 GMT Standard Time,=20 knaap159@zonnet.nl writes:
Hello .......

I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C= 85)=20 toroids, 58mm diameter.
Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I ha= ve=20 to buy at least 36 of
them............
That chap David may be able to help with one or two.
 
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Or BFI Optilas in Germany is the European stock=20 centre
 
 
73

 
 -------------------------------1142515164-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198007120448021792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4b0b2c6945bebf2c83ee2289af4bde6c9e2dbe4d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs7003wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.53.16 with SMTP id b16mr985684qba; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:30:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si2214784qba.2006.03.16.03.30.20; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJqeG-00024U-KM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:28:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJqeG-00024L-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:28:08 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJsDw-0003vH-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:09:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 17841 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2006 11:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.59]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 16 Mar 2006 11:27:44 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c648eb$8bba61c0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:19:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: source for large 3C90 toroids wanted........ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6371 Hello ....... I am looking for a source to buy 3C90 (or 3C85) toroids, 58mm diameter. Up til now I can only find 'Spoerle' , but I have to buy at least 36 of them............ Is there any other compagny that have these large cores available in lower quantities?? Preferable in Germany or the Netherlands. Maybe there is a alternative by using Epcos cores? Material N87?? or N30?? Anyone?? 73 Dick , PA4VHF (I know about using TV-cores etc, but just wonder if there is a way to get these nice ringcores) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197038760907931853 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dde38609da080ae31b17ea5ac488c59df535cb57 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs63175wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:59:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.6 with SMTP id c6mr1154288ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:59:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si910449uge.2006.03.05.10.59.55; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFyPL-0007mP-32 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:56:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFyPK-0007mG-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:56:42 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFzv1-0007V8-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:33:46 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:22935 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFyP4-000AlV-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:56:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c64086$7a689f30$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> <003701c6407e$e4d29220$0600a8c0@router> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:56:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.033,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: LF performance FT-847 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6408E.DBFF4070" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6372 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6408E.DBFF4070 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Uwe, Here follows the attachment. 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Zgo1NDMyCiUlRU9GCg== ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C6408E.DBFF4070-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197038760907931853 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f26172264a87f1944cfbafb4eb3b6fbd269c4560 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs63165wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.18 with SMTP id b18mr2360751ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:58:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si4783164uge.2006.03.05.10.58.41; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFyP8-0007mC-VW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:56:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFyP8-0007m3-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:56:30 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFzMg-0000bj-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:58:02 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:22934 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFyNt-000Acc-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:55:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c64086$4eac7c40$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> <003701c6407e$e4d29220$0600a8c0@router> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:54:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.030,BAYES_40=-1.096 Subject: LF: Re: LF performance FT-847 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6373 Hello Uwe, Use a 30 - 40 dB tuneable pre-amp. I have attached a circuit diagram. The beauty of LF is that good selectivity can be achieved in front of the active devices, which greatly helps to reduce overload problems. At HF it is often common sense to use as little gain as possible in the front end of a receiver. At LF I have used up to 50 dB gain without adverse effects. I found that these high gain tuneable pre-amplifiers opened the band for weak signals here. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196665022643414197 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 950f3084f2debaedcec59a2f43549919385f9d12 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11310wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.16.19 with SMTP id t19mr187008ugi; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si661271uge.2006.03.01.07.58.17; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FETfe-0005UJ-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FETfe-0005UA-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:55:22 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.200.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEUb9-0007L4-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:54:49 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006030115551201200j5nree>; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:55:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c63d4a$d83712c0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> <4405A83A.6030503@w1tag.com> <003b01c63d43$0a34e660$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:11:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.520,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: for Jay Rusgrove Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63D20.EEE3EB80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6374 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63D20.EEE3EB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean-Pierre Thanks for the captures. Looks like you have your receiving setup = working well! Tried e mailing you direct earlier but my message was bounced :~( Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: LF: for Jay Rusgrove=20 Jay , Test like that: http://jpmere.online.fr/Jay/ there are 2 files for you !=20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63D20.EEE3EB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jean-Pierre
 
Thanks for the captures. Looks like you = have your=20 receiving setup working well!
 
Tried e mailing you direct earlier but = my message=20 was bounced :~(
 
Jay
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Jay ,
Test like that:  http://jpmere.online.fr/Jay/ there=20 are 2 files for you !

73 qro Jean-Pierre=20 f1afj

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C63D20.EEE3EB80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198756026678175871 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 352187b4a1d80a7db6f536ed2211396f2a29526a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs41881wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.235.4 with SMTP id m4mr885235qbr; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15si685150qba.2006.03.24.09.53.52; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMqSO-000262-Oh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:52:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMqSN-00025t-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:52:15 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMrZ8-0003gS-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:03:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 24140 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 17:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.127.175 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 17:51:06 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c64f6b$878d09a0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <442425A2.5000102@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:51:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.191 Subject: LF: Re: G3YXM website down ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6375 Hi Wolf, Dave is in the process of changing ISPs so there will be a slight glitch whilst he gets the new one set up. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Wolf DL4YHF To: RSGB LF Group Sent: 24 March 2006 17:00 Subject: LF: G3YXM website down ? > Hi Dave and group, > Just tried to visit http://www.wireless.org.uk/ and got the old 404 > error. New location, or just temporarily off (hopefully) ? > > Anyway have a nice weekend, > 73 Wolf DL4YHF . > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198925679127199198 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: da883fa6dc1c6bd38ed1fda707328752bcf684b1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs25144wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr1870014qbf; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si1897266qba.2006.03.26.06.50.25; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWXq-0001Jy-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:48:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNWXp-0001Jp-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:48:41 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNXfX-0000ZN-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:00:44 +0100 Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.206.183]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2006 15:48:34 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAHI3JkSHfyw Received: from 88-106-206-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.206.183]:4756 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FNWXh-000EfD-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:48:33 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:49:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.280,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: RE: HELL CQ - Who? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6376 Hi Dave, Thanks for the info but too late to see it on the grabber. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- Hi, Gary. It was Wolf, DK4U. Check Marcus's grabber for the full picture ;-) http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197755048215343335 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4d2c84290398aca87aef1ae8e5fbf841a74386f9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2837wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.59.17 with SMTP id m17mr1840678qbk; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si2639778qba.2006.03.13.08.54.53; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqHx-0005Zf-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:52:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqHx-0005ZW-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:52:57 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIrJL-0002Cn-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:58:29 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060313165242m1200mk6v4e>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:52:47 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:52:40 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Roelof Bakker" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:52:40 +0000 Message-Id: <031320061652.8202.4415A357000DC9FC0000200A22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.111 Subject: Re: LF: T/A March 13 2006 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6378 Hi Roelof, Thanks for the report and captures. WD2XGJ was running 1.2 kW output until 04:00 UTC, 250 watts after 04:00. The dashes were caused by the keyer changing messages (which was unplanned!) A new keyer has been built that will fix that problem. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Roelof Bakker" > Hello all, > > I logged only WD2XGJ last night. > > Later on, the call was replaced by a series of dashes. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197755048215343335 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cf21d581f6cf62768b021a56532f2bc6125b87ed Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2686wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.10 with SMTP id i10mr2202096qbg; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:43:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si267953qba.2006.03.13.08.43.43; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIq6t-0005Sa-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:41:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIq6s-0005SR-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:41:31 +0000 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIr8H-000294-9y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:47:02 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:24770 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIq5c-000F5s-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:40:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c646bc$c4463810$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <031320061427.24589.441581450001C32F0000600D22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:39:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.577 Subject: LF: T/A March 13 2006 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C646C5.25D3B190" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6379 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C646C5.25D3B190 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I logged only WD2XGJ last night. Later on, the call was replaced by a series of dashes. 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quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6380 > Jay sorry not possible !!!!! > > 73 JP > > 'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. 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Yurkov" To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: Asia tomorrow > On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitri wrote: >> 10/03 from 16z in qrss20 >> RX9BS -137773.5 >> UA0AET - 137702 >> UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour. I have worked UA0AGC several times on 160 metres and would be pleasd to work Yuri on 136 khz. 73 and GL Mal/G3KEV > > I have start recieving too late (19z) but UA0AET beacon copied nice > (see attach) > > 73 de RA9MB/Alex > http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197404909285127711 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7e24a7718d38bce9f34bf8c1e2bcba0c5b7ad226 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs29907wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.15 with SMTP id s15mr1064042qbf; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:07:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si1894000qba.2006.03.10.14.07.00; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHpjO-0004HQ-Cl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:05:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHpjN-0004HH-RG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:05:05 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([81.176.48.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHqjO-0005hh-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:09:13 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host201.m02.dial.sotline.ru [81.176.51.201]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.x.x) with ESMTP id k2AM4nMa088526 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:04:50 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA00328 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:30:17 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:30:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-1126761430-1142051417=:320 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitri wrote: > 10/03 from 16z in qrss20 > RX9BS -137773.5 > UA0AET - 137702 > UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour. 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+0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <604012757.20060310221606@t-online.de> To: Dmitri In-Reply-To: <4411E88A.5000503@mail.ru> References: <44108824.8040003@mail.ru> <171228127.20060310185900@t-online.de> <4411E88A.5000503@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rAJBw0ZO8eKvohzknSM1g3PZ497lLUmshZMzEuWQotem0J8ORJMVoR X-TOI-MSGID: ee397cd5-a459-4cef-afab-3d3a065a519e X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.870,BAYES_05=-0.413 Subject: Re: LF: Asia tomorrow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6384 Dmitry, thanks! I didn't expected it so far away, because it's a full landpath of about 5030km. Nothing seen yet from UA0AGC. RX9BS used a faster mode tonight. To weak for a QRSS3 screen (only traces about 18:30) and to fast for reading on a QRSS20 screen. 73 Hartmut > Hi Hartmut, > locator UA0AET- NO66la > Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Dmitry From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197404909285127711 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6af75a2f8e478810bd82bc53e0baeaf33f269a76 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs29268wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.43.13 with SMTP id q13mr528494nfq; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:01:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72si957624nfc.2006.03.10.13.01.53; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHoiI-0003j0-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHoiH-0003ir-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:59:53 +0000 Received: from mx2.mail.ru ([194.67.23.122]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHpiI-0005JP-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:03:59 +0000 Received: from [62.33.236.41] (port=1428 helo=mail.ru) by mx2.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FHoi9-000EmS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:59:45 +0300 Message-ID: <4411E88A.5000503@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:58:50 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <44108824.8040003@mail.ru> <171228127.20060310185900@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.161,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.004 Subject: Re: LF: Asia tomorrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020308080206090801080502" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6385 --------------020308080206090801080502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Hartmut, locator UA0AET- NO66la Hartmut Wolff wrote: Dmitry >Hi Dmitry, >partial copy of UA0AET about 137.702 kHz started about 17:15 UTC. Do >you know the locator. >Only traces on 137.7737, not readable until now 17:55 UTC. Nothing >yet on 137.707. > >73 >Hartmut > > > > >> Hi LF! >> >> > > > >>10/03 from 16z in qrss20 >>RX9BS -137773.5 >>UA0AET - 137702 >>UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour. >> >> > > > >>Dmitry >>RA3YO >> >> > > > > > --------------020308080206090801080502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Hartmut,

locator UA0AET- NO66la
Hartmut Wolff wrote:

Dmitry
Hi Dmitry,
partial copy of UA0AET about 137.702 kHz started about 17:15 UTC. Do
you know the locator.
Only traces on 137.7737, not readable until now 17:55 UTC. Nothing
yet on 137.707.

73
Hartmut


  
  Hi LF!
    

  
10/03 from 16z in qrss20
RX9BS -137773.5
UA0AET -  137702
UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour.
    

  
Dmitry
RA3YO

--------------020308080206090801080502-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197404909285127711 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6db3045fc7d575933a88a3cdf11cefa0c086139d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs26857wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.186.17 with SMTP id n17mr815983qbp; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si1269526qba.2006.03.10.10.01.31; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHlta-0002hW-8v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:59:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHltZ-0002hN-RE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:59:21 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHmtX-0003T3-CW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:03:24 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FHltX-0000ku-01; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:59:19 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Eezkr0ZTgeghg05kiL2pAuD4iQeLiYQ3hYKZ341Af5kxIW-4i3Sq6w@[84.133.101.184]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FHltG-0Jx9280; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:59:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:59:00 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <171228127.20060310185900@t-online.de> To: Dmitri In-Reply-To: <44108824.8040003@mail.ru> References: <44108824.8040003@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Eezkr0ZTgeghg05kiL2pAuD4iQeLiYQ3hYKZ341Af5kxIW-4i3Sq6w X-TOI-MSGID: 9d6c31f0-9541-4f6f-9fc7-1242857ff263 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.225,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Asia tomorrow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6386 Hi Dmitry, partial copy of UA0AET about 137.702 kHz started about 17:15 UTC. Do you know the locator. Only traces on 137.7737, not readable until now 17:55 UTC. Nothing yet on 137.707. 73 Hartmut > Hi LF! > 10/03 from 16z in qrss20 > RX9BS -137773.5 > UA0AET - 137702 > UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour. > Dmitry > RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197404909285127711 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 07179ffb064a46611567d541add508a285f5f3c0 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11019wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.17 with SMTP id b17mr1403631ugi; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:58:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j3si2017531ugd.2006.03.09.11.58.27; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHRFM-00038J-CC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:56:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHRFL-00038A-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:56:27 +0000 Received: from mx6.mail.ru ([194.67.23.26]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHSEr-0002kD-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:00:02 +0000 Received: from [62.33.236.102] (port=24844 helo=mail.ru) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FHRF8-00049O-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:56:14 +0300 Message-ID: <44108824.8040003@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:55:16 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.187,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.004 Subject: LF: Asia tomorrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010907070003030008090603" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6387 --------------010907070003030008090603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LF! 10/03 from 16z in qrss20 RX9BS -137773.5 UA0AET - 137702 UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour. Dmitry RA3YO --------------010907070003030008090603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi LF!

10/03 from 16z in qrss20
RX9BS -137773.5
UA0AET - �137702
UA0AGC - 137707, only 10 sec dash, first 10 minutes each hour.

Dmitry
RA3YO
--------------010907070003030008090603-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196813017919968698 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6712d1b2f06160ada6c682937bf154e3a07ed016 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs22243wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.220.6 with SMTP id s6mr1357852ugg; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:10:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si2381166ugf.2006.03.02.23.10.36; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FF4O5-0002zg-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 07:07:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FF4O5-0002zX-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 07:07:41 +0000 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FF5KP-0005yu-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:07:58 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0704.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 90910140008F for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:07:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-6.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-6.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.6]) by mwinf0704.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DB0C21400085 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:07:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060303070733897.DB0C21400085@mwinf0704.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:06:37 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.000,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Only traces of NA last night... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6391 NA (traces) from 0130 to 0300 UTC last night, and a lot of statics. Best 73 to all ! F5YG -- Jean-Pierre Godet - Powered by Linux (Slackware 10.0 - kernel 2.4.26) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198673421714023557 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7381bb659b9fd5a3aa9241653c44e91a71e0bb44 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs17513wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr14816qbf; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:00:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si4818954qba.2006.03.23.12.00.54; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMVwU-0006Mn-UY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:57:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMVwU-0006Me-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:57:58 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMXYw-0002En-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:42:01 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FMVwE-0001vc-01; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:57:42 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XRa3awZVweFvlig8Z6eYbh5RxVNARFEs2aSfys0B4TwuiKtwnmWzYH@[84.133.96.145]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FMVvy-1ihFZ20; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:57:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:57:26 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1215342342.20060323205726@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XRa3awZVweFvlig8Z6eYbh5RxVNARFEs2aSfys0B4TwuiKtwnmWzYH X-TOI-MSGID: b2c7221f-e2c9-4200-9052-d31d4e8bfcdf X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.080 Subject: LF: Russian activities Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6393 UA4WPF was calling in QRSS10 about 17:35-17:52 and 18:59-19:18 on 137.76 kHz. The second call was very strong here. RA9CUA was beaconing in QRSS30 17:30-18:55 on 137.7039 kHz. Only partial copy due to EU QRM. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197131247381785019 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2f587f75b444e5408feb2f961a8cfed7d466cc2e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs76636wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.245.7 with SMTP id s7mr3123245ugh; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:28:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si5726264uge.2006.03.06.11.28.43; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGLLQ-0002xf-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:26:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGLLP-0002xW-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:26:11 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGMJR-0001cJ-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:28:14 +0000 Received: from 88-106-128-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.128.173]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2006 19:25:42 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CALoYDESHZiw Received: from 88-106-128-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.128.173]:3093 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FGLHK-000BjD-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:21:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:25:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.048,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Signal 136.330KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6394 Hi All, What is the signal near 136.330KHz? Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0615cd34c1be5545497085488918a66151ab4922 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs27443wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.243.20 with SMTP id q20mr681813ugh; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:06:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si990433ugc.2006.03.08.12.06.11; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH4sk-0005F2-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:03:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH4sj-0005Et-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:03:37 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH5rl-0002gA-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:06:42 +0000 Received: from 88-106-163-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.163.87]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2006 20:02:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAMLCDkSFVYIaLA Received: from 88-106-163-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.163.87]:4901 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FH4rR-0002Nx-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:02:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:03:04 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.046,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: RE: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6395 Hi All, Thanks to Jean-Pierre, Alberto, Jay & Laurence for watching & reporting, I saw my own signals on Markus's grabber. I will mail here to notify next session. The tests were satisfactory with the new 10Amp variac controlling the G0MRF 300 watt Tx power supply, the variac was cold all night & the PA & power supply were only mildly warm even when I was running 320 watts QRSS60. 73 Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence KL1X Sent: 08 March 2006 11:12 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: 136.320KHz Looking for you Gary - Long haul to west coast Americas' is much better this evening with NPG pretty strong - so heres hoping the route to Europe is better too. Laurence 9m6/gm4dma >From: "Gary - G4WGT" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >Subject: LF: 136.320KHz >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:25:01 -0000 > >Hi All, > >If anyone happens to be monitoring arround 136.320KHz tonight the frequency >changes on my signal are deliberate. Of course any reports will be most >welcome. I am making one more pass now at QRSS60 basically testing out the >new variac, so far not even mildly warm. PA & power supply also running >cool. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 98c9b1cc4e36ce51cfddb3714d95240e2300771d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21369wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.19.8 with SMTP id w8mr368481ugi; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:14:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si565826uge.2006.03.08.03.14.13; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGwaK-0002TR-W8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:12:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGwaK-0002TI-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:12:04 +0000 Received: from bay116-f27.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.37] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGy70-0000FO-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:50:10 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:11:41 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:11:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:11:37 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2006 11:11:41.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[13E265D0:01C642A1] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.069,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: RE: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6396 Looking for you Gary - Long haul to west coast Americas' is much better this evening with NPG pretty strong - so heres hoping the route to Europe is better too. Laurence 9m6/gm4dma >From: "Gary - G4WGT" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" >Subject: LF: 136.320KHz >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:25:01 -0000 > >Hi All, > >If anyone happens to be monitoring arround 136.320KHz tonight the frequency >changes on my signal are deliberate. Of course any reports will be most >welcome. I am making one more pass now at QRSS60 basically testing out the >new variac, so far not even mildly warm. PA & power supply also running >cool. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 29619bd5616b6a0077fcc9a92af3ff021d810dbd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21336wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.238.17 with SMTP id l17mr348799ugh; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:09:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si612079ugf.2006.03.08.03.09.25; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGwVL-0002O9-RL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:06:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGwVL-0002O0-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:06:55 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGxUB-0007tA-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:09:48 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060308110605011008uf15e>; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:06:10 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c642a0$4ea0cf00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:06:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.515,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6397 Gary Looked for your signal until switching on the transmitter at 0300Z...but nothing seen. Static crashes and CFH may have been a factor. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: aaf41a5d093c2dd225dc4cdad8599552b67a74dc Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20479wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.18 with SMTP id i18mr237674qbg; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:30:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si186519qba.2006.03.08.01.30.30; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuy9-0001ki-TX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:28:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuy9-0001kZ-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:28:33 +0000 Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGwUm-0006e2-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:06:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 5676 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 09:27:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (151.46.37.225) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2006 09:27:04 -0000 Message-ID: <440EA36B.7020200@usa.net> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:27:07 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.299,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6398 >> ... >> If anyone happens to be monitoring arround 136.320KHz tonight the frequency >> changes on my signal are deliberate... >> ... Gary, I saw strong signals at that frequency, and with narrow filters the tone was almost audible. I didn't take any screen captures, but I can assure you that even at QRSS1 they would have been perfectly copiable. This thanks to that little miracle that the mini-whip antenna is.... ! 73 Alberto I2PHD in JN45SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 12ddaf74ad8082166bb51428db61afdb29a8b6c5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs19151wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.203.19 with SMTP id a19mr121507qbg; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:58:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si121952qba.2006.03.07.22.58.23; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGsaT-00014a-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:55:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGsaT-00014R-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:55:57 +0000 Received: from smtp18.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGu75-0004Ub-1J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:33:59 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 838BF7000089 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:55:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-250.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-250.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.250]) by mwinf1812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B0B4A7000086 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:55:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060308065534723.B0B4A7000086@mwinf1812.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:54:33 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.017,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6399 On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > ... > If anyone happens to be monitoring arround 136.320KHz tonight the frequency > changes on my signal are deliberate... > ... Hello Gary ! Yes, I saw two strings but unfortunately I did not capture the screen... on two frequencies near 136,320 kHz. The signal was strong here JN09XI, the first I saw was at about 2000 UTC till 2020/2025 UTC, the second one was, if I remember, was a little bit higher and was running till 2120, when I shifted to the 137,777 kHz waterhole. Next time, I record a capture for you ! Best 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197229340669126419 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 928607dd436e240c56020a9526fce36c284214e4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs12077wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.5 with SMTP id o5mr15225qbb; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:27:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si30402qbe.2006.03.07.13.27.51; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGjge-0007vf-0r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:25:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGjgd-0007vW-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:25:43 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGlD7-0006VQ-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:03:36 +0000 Received: from 88-106-235-234.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.235.234]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2006 21:24:17 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AaMwAFqGDUSHZwIdDSI Received: from 88-106-235-234.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.235.234]:3643 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FGjfD-000MuX-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:24:15 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:25:01 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.094,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: 136.320KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6400 Hi All, If anyone happens to be monitoring arround 136.320KHz tonight the frequency changes on my signal are deliberate. Of course any reports will be most welcome. I am making one more pass now at QRSS60 basically testing out the new variac, so far not even mildly warm. PA & power supply also running cool. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196919030760804732 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2953a153757348dce3c9f968c859c419b6f6f8c7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs48200wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr1791201uge; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si3516314ugf.2006.03.04.03.15.37; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFUhs-0000Io-KH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:13:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFUhs-0000If-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:13:52 +0000 Received: from smtpout0165.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.165] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFWD1-0004ky-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:50:25 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.228.163) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F79300347811 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:11:42 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c63f7c$5fb1cbe0$a3e4fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <001501c63f0d$dc3d08b0$05001aac@joan> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:07:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.046,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.142,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: Re: tonight Madrid on the air Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C63F7B.DFB18C00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6407 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C63F7B.DFB18C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Morros P To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: LF: tonight Madrid on the air EA4BVZ will run dot30 on 136.399 kHz tonight and tomorrow. Reports are welcome. Good signal in JN01HO, 17 dB over noise. Juan, EA3FXF Juan, Pse give the times that u are going to be active. de Mal/G3KEV _____________________________________________________________________ Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C63F7B.DFB18C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joan = Morros=20
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 = 10:00=20 PM
Subject: LF: tonight Madrid on = the=20 air

 
 
EA4BVZ will run dot30 on 136.399 kHz = tonight and=20 tomorrow.
 
Reports are welcome.
 
Good signal in JN01HO, 17 dB over=20 noise.
 
Juan, EA3FXF
 
Juan,
Pse give the times that u are going = to be=20 active.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C63F7B.DFB18C00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196578071721521270 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ece1a915814d3602fa41ea9d3a0b8b7ccd29568c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs3037wra; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr759330ugl; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si187775uge.2006.02.28.20.42.08; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEJ8M-0002Ao-Ne for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEJ8M-0002Af-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:40:18 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEKcK-0004q9-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:15:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (really [64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060301043950.MUIL853.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@[192.168.1.2]> for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:39:50 -0700 Message-ID: <44052596.7030909@telus.net> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:39:50 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c63c87$671f64c0$1bd0fc3e@your4105e587b6> In-Reply-To: <000701c63c87$671f64c0$1bd0fc3e@your4105e587b6> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.081,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: NAVSTAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6410 Mal Contact Robert, VE7CYB he's on the LW reflector and a marine tech who knows all about this stuff... He may even have the spec's for your antenna. Scott g3kev wrote: > Hi All > I have a ships small LF antenna NAVSTAR. It is enclosed in a white > plastic case and the actual antenna is a single sided copper clad > board 475 mm long by 35 mm wide. This is attached to an amplifier with > 3 transistors, one 2N3823 and two 2N3904, there are two pot cores at > the output side going to the coax to RX. > > Does anyone know this antenna/amp or have a cct and voltage info. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198117983831384937 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bbf7f4f80f47dba7a87ee8fa02e895288b0ea4c1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs3003wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.193.9 with SMTP id q9mr610033qbf; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:52:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si1215516qbe.2006.03.17.08.52.27; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKI8s-00051b-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:49:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKI8s-00051S-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:49:34 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKJj1-0002IT-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:31:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 89192 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2006 16:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.50 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2006 16:49:13 -0000 Message-ID: <060401c649e2$b85e4460$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <001a01c649df$5981a0c0$57e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:49:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.578 Subject: LF: Re: LOPT CORES Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6413 >From G3PLX: Ferrite cores in TV line output and switchmode power supplies often have an air gap. This means that the effective permeability is not very high. This is done because the transformers in these circuits are used as inductive energy storage devices, not as true transformers. The inductance of the winding is much lower than the winding of a true transformer with the same number of turns. For LF transmitter use, we don't want to store the energy, just have a transformer with a high inductance which doesn't shunt the load, so we don't want a gap in the core. In the case of TV line output transformers, the gap is usually formed by means of two thin mylar spacers between the two halves. Unscrew the clamp and the two spacers will fall out and can be discarded. In the case of 'E and I' cores in switchmode PSUs, the same spacer idea may be used, so if you are recycling one of these for LF transmitter use, just remove the spacers. But in some cases the gap is built into the centre limb of the 'E' part, and if you examine the E core carefully you will see that the centre limb is shorter than the outer limbs and there's an air gap when you clamp the E to the I. Cores like this will be no good for our purposes! 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197011799635785090 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 97c19f11b6f47ad787b31dbfe329fde5d8d96fdf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59925wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.16 with SMTP id n16mr2243237ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:50:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si4503714uge.2006.03.05.03.50.09; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrjR-0006T0-V9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:49:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrjR-0006Sr-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:49:01 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFsgq-0006lb-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:50:24 +0000 Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.167.85]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2006 11:47:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAMJdCkSGH4FGLA Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.167.85]:3278 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FFriK-000Bax-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:47:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:48:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <010101c6403b$8b692610$90a24054@MLB> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.052,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: RE: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6417 Hi Martin, I am using a JRC NRD-345 receiver, got it second hand about �325.00 a couple of years ago. Sensitivity & stability is very good but it does require a narrow filter, I have fitted a 400Hz from Universal Radio (in the U.S.) & it is excellent now. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196662552864865824 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ffed6f7ad7ac1278f84fcdac80422befaaa06dab Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10762wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.93.12 with SMTP id v12mr155704ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:19:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si488384uge.2006.03.01.07.19.01; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FET3h-0005Eu-Ii for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:16:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FET3c-0005Ek-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:16:04 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FETz5-00075C-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:15:30 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A55384F619 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:15:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003b01c63d43$0a34e660$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> <4405A83A.6030503@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:15:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.061,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: for Jay Rusgrove Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6419 Jay , Test like that: http://jpmere.online.fr/Jay/ there are 2 files for you ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196996080945533387 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: cb8af28cd222dc33c3bf439c1f206aefaa142b24 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs66953wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.94.10 with SMTP id w10mr928374ugl; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:53:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o1si5087424uge.2006.03.05.18.53.15; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FG5nz-0000ba-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:50:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FG5ny-0000bR-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:50:38 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FG6ld-0003xV-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:52:20 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060306024944m1200198c1e>; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:49:50 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:49:42 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Godet Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:49:42 +0000 Message-Id: <030620060249.11959.440BA34600094AC600002EB722069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.204,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA last night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6420 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report. WD2XGJ started late that night (at 04:50 UTC on 5 March). -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Godet > Better, in my hole, this night, it seems : > > NA : 0105 ==> 0620 ; > XKO : 0455 ==> 0635 ; > XES : 0445 ==> 0515 ; > XGJ : 0450 ==> 0645 ; > XNS : 0450 ==> 0610 UTC. > > Sunrise 0628 UTC in JN09XI > > 73 QRO ! > > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196996080945533387 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6985f3c35ab0b2b362a10af6bb31a9a28b20b720 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs58619wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.7 with SMTP id n7mr757112ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1si1336288ugf.2006.03.05.00.12.27; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFoKJ-0005Q7-LP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:10:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFoKJ-0005Py-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:10:51 +0000 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFpHd-0005Uc-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 09:12:10 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1401.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6D8B770000A9 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:10:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-131.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-131.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.131]) by mwinf1401.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98E117000099 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:10:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305081043626.98E117000099@mwinf1401.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:09:45 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001c01c64027$79879a30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <001c01c64027$79879a30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA last night Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1340692821-1141546185=:978" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6421 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1340692821-1141546185=:978 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 wrote: > ... > The last night , poor conditions ! > Here we have 10-12cm of snow > ... Yes, looks like this weather, unusual in the centre of France, had a bad= =20 influence, perhaps, on the aerial... And here this morning, in our north,= =20 sun is shining, skye is blue ! As ever ! 73 QRO all ! F5YG --8323328-1340692821-1141546185=:978-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196996080945533387 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2d46c589f353bed7fc1c2df322fd394a2a85c2c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs58472wra; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.6 with SMTP id c6mr892870ugi; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:40:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si3244598uge.2006.03.04.23.40.18; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFnnO-0005CR-2A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:36:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFnnK-0005CI-EP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:36:46 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFokb-0005Js-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:38:04 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F6881843A for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:36:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001c01c64027$79879a30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:36:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.074,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6402F.DB0953E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6422 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6402F.DB0953E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions !=20 Here we have 10-12cm of snow=20 I copied : XGJ, XKO, NA , XNS (trace !) the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6402F.DB0953E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all on the list !
The last = night=20 , poor conditions !
Here we have 10-12cm of snow
I copied = : XGJ, XKO,=20 NA , XNS (trace !)
 
the = captures of this=20 night are on : =
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
<= /FONT>
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj=20 JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6402F.DB0953E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198385555222823706 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1abda4294e77e592decec1b66d9b6f69e9d0e0d8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs24213wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.249.4 with SMTP id w4mr379965qbh; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:08:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si2725979qba.2006.03.20.15.08.09; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLTRm-0002I6-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:05:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLTRl-0002Hx-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:05:57 +0000 Received: from bay116-dav14.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.86] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLV34-0002i4-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:48:54 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:05:30 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY116-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:05:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: References: <032020061558.11945.441ED1290004F66E00002EA922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:05:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:05:30 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2006 23:05:30.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[C90DDEF0:01C64C72] X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.850,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 19/20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C64C40.7E132680" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6428 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C64C40.7E132680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Holy cow there Warren, that is some funny looking QRSS!!! LOL!!! Mike WE0H ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: Hartmut Wolff Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 19/20 Hi Hartmut, Excellent captures as usual. I really had to laugh when I saw the = drift on my signal! I had shut off the synthesizer since I was mounting = my transmitters in a rack. When everything was in the rack I went on the = air and the synthesizer was still cold! For general amusement, I'm posting the link to your capture below: = http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF%20Screenshots/06_03/060320/TA-060320-05= 30.jpg -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff=20 > Poorer signal levels and higher static than the previous nights. > Despite the poorer conditions I copied "XGJ". Partial copy of VO1NA > and I saw only traces of "XKO". > Surprisingly good reception of the WD2XES WOLF transmission on = 137.577 > kHz. Best about 03:00. >=20 > Captures can be seen here: >=20 > = http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm >=20 >=20 > 73 > Hartmut ------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C64C40.7E132680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Holy cow there Warren, that is some funny looking QRSS!!! = LOL!!!
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Cc: Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 = 9:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, = 19/20

Hi Hartmut,

   Excellent captures as = usual. I=20 really had to laugh when I saw the drift on my signal! I had shut off = the=20 synthesizer since I was mounting my transmitters in a rack. When = everything=20 was in the rack I went on the air and the synthesizer was still = cold!
For=20 general amusement, I'm posting the link to your capture below:
http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF%20Screenshots/06_03/060= 320/TA-060320-0530.jpg


--
73=20 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm<= /A>

 --------------=20 Original message ----------------------
From: Hartmut Wolff =
> Poorer=20 signal levels and higher static than the previous nights.
> = Despite the=20 poorer conditions I copied "XGJ". Partial copy of VO1NA
> and I = saw only=20 traces of "XKO".
> Surprisingly good reception of the WD2XES = WOLF=20 transmission on 137.577
> kHz. Best about 03:00.
> =
>=20 Captures can be seen here:
>
> http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestL= F.htm
>=20
>
> 73
> Hartmut
------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C64C40.7E132680-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198385555222823706 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3478608f1df1919da3834ede9c5b0914abd84a5e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs15365wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.156.18 with SMTP id i18mr490545qbo; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si1054235qba.2006.03.20.08.02.45; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMmX-00016r-JH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:58:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMmW-00016i-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:58:57 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLNrH-0005au-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:07:59 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060320155835m1100c3c45e>; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:58:46 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:58:33 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Hartmut Wolff Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:58:33 +0000 Message-Id: <032020061558.11945.441ED1290004F66E00002EA922070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.944 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 19/20 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6429 Hi Hartmut, Excellent captures as usual. I really had to laugh when I saw the drift on my signal! I had shut off the synthesizer since I was mounting my transmitters in a rack. When everything was in the rack I went on the air and the synthesizer was still cold! For general amusement, I'm posting the link to your capture below: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF%20Screenshots/06_03/060320/TA-060320-0530.jpg -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Poorer signal levels and higher static than the previous nights. > Despite the poorer conditions I copied "XGJ". Partial copy of VO1NA > and I saw only traces of "XKO". > Surprisingly good reception of the WD2XES WOLF transmission on 137.577 > kHz. Best about 03:00. > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198385555222823706 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fe38e22e6de1b8a9fa32c0ed3ccc79b7f1f18f1d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14976wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.151.2 with SMTP id d2mr39136qbo; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si814673qbc.2006.03.20.07.45.23; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMY4-0000uv-Sa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLMY4-0000um-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:00 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLNcq-0005Sx-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:53:02 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FLMY1-0000md-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:57 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TFtwuOZ6gefcycj2Kq54q-sfx2fMwdOODfzY303wbS+VOg+3u9jSwT@[84.133.127.61]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FLMXl-0BYsV60; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:38 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <224917504.20060320164338@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TFtwuOZ6gefcycj2Kq54q-sfx2fMwdOODfzY303wbS+VOg+3u9jSwT X-TOI-MSGID: de0e09b6-e3ce-40cc-a1df-de5b02e66b0c X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.014 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 19/20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6430 Poorer signal levels and higher static than the previous nights. Despite the poorer conditions I copied "XGJ". Partial copy of VO1NA and I saw only traces of "XKO". Surprisingly good reception of the WD2XES WOLF transmission on 137.577 kHz. Best about 03:00. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196678517964076198 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 72bffd67d9d84ef21667a2089660d4c1f9da7f36 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2607wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.164.4 with SMTP id m4mr6492uge; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:32:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1si802163uge.2006.03.01.11.32.46; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEX1U-00070P-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:30:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEX1U-00070G-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6431 The following from the ndblist regarding EI0CF.... :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Finbar" To: "ndblist" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:56 AM Subject: [ndblist] re LF beacon off-air > > Please be advised that my LF beacon on > 136.36 khz has now been taken off the air. > The transmitter was switched off at 0950 utc > on the 28th Feb. > Thanks to all those who reported or relayed > reports of others, together with screen shots > etc. All very informative indeed. > I have spoken/e-mailed to a number of people > regarding this test transmission and it is > with regret that I note that band conditions > appear to have gone down quite a bit since I > first started on LF on 136 khz back in 1998. > > In large parts of the UK, transmissions of > Loran from the Rugby transmitter, together with > the obvious large increase in electronics, > data and broadband connections seem to have > raised the noise floor in this area of frequency > quite a bit. > > I would think this will be my final experiment > on LF, interesting from a technical point of view > but highly disruptive to what I do most of the > time nowadays.....listening. > > Thank you again for all the reports. > Finbar O'Connor EI0CF Malin > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196782698710693971 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 657cd34a2fb4e0b0691452859645edd1385e5809 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs16581wra; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6433 Hello LF-ers, found some info abt DCF 39 at DK8KW's site. Not brand new, but as far as I know, there has been no change in parameters. So have a look at http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html 73's, Peter, dj9dw From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198260147324274050 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 80e9f8c9132e0faa5c8c11f0eb16e3b9b568f999 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs17846wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.20.19 with SMTP id x19mr113544ugi; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si1536513ugf.2006.03.18.22.32.06; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKrPb-0004Z7-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:29:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKrPb-0004Yy-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:29:11 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKt0L-00055d-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:11:28 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B7CEE1FFFD29 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:28:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-90.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-90.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.90]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F22371FFFD27 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:28:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060319062849991.F22371FFFD27@mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:27:36 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.005 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ and VO1NA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6434 Hello, Warren, Joe, and all ! XGJ : traces : 0100 ==> 0130 ; good : 0240 ==> 0310, 0335 ==> 0410 UTC. VO1NA : traces : 0000 ==> 0020, 0010 ==> 0120 ; good : 0255 ==> 0325, 0355 ==> 0425, 0455 ==> 0525 UTC ; and traces now (abt 0615, in JN09XI, sunrise 0559). Strong storm statics 0200 ==> 0230. Best 73 to all, have a good sunday ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198168679805306722 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 18c6ed3617aca0097b7525a4245a78401244ed6f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs2588wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.185.15 with SMTP id i15mr464019qbf; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:18:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q16si2403703qbq.2006.03.17.22.18.15; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKUhw-0008At-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKUhw-0008Ak-Df for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:14:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKWII-0007sK-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:56:29 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A9631C001FC for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:14:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-133.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-133.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.133]) by mwinf0109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 73AA81C001F8 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:14:04 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060318061404473.73AA81C001F8@mwinf0109.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:12:52 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <15110245091.20060317163204@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.072 Subject: LF: XGJ and VO1NA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6435 XGJ received partially 0025 ==> 0115, and 0410 ==> 0445 UTC ; Traces of VO1NA 0255 ==> 0425, and a full "VO1NA" string 0455 ==> 0530 UTC. Nothing received yesterday evening from UA0AGC, sorry... 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198692045244269390 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8e8895f6e871e4c74c467b095c3ebfb1d7794edd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs24266wrc; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.21.14 with SMTP id 14mr110741qbu; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:56:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si200195qba.2006.03.23.16.56.55; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMaZi-0007ib-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:54:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMaZi-0007iS-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:54:46 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMbg9-0002RV-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:05:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 6571 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 00:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.44.60 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 00:54:38 -0000 Message-ID: <002701c64edd$8793ff00$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <002101c64ac4$2f109860$2102000a@ibm> <8bf118410603190722u455ba0f7q@mail.gmail.com> <000d01c64df6$8e8aea40$2102000a@ibm> <001901c64ed5$dde7e2c0$fc687ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:54:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.227 Subject: LF: Re: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6436 Hi Jim I guess yours were Glass-fibre ...I have seen carbon fibre poles around and I believe these are actually conducting (dont fish near overhead lines !!) which might be another problem on LF. I dont know what some of the black coloured ones are but if they are loaded with carbon that may not be good either. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz To: Sent: 23 March 2006 23:59 Subject: LF: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? > Dear Dick, LF Group, > > I used three 10m telescopic fibreglass "fishing poles" to set up an inverted > L 136kHz antenna for an expedition to Puckeridge some years ago. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198028433162701547 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5a9302b3f825367deabe4dcfd61d65402db56ee3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs15212wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr1456198qba; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si2363964qbq.2006.03.16.11.58.57; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJyac-0005AH-IB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:56:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJyac-0005A8-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:56:54 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK0AQ-0000cC-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:38:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 47447 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 19:56:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.50 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 19:56:37 -0000 Message-ID: <02a201c64933$bc0dd260$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> <027801c6491b$cbcb49c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <4419B52E.4040701@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:56:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.866 Subject: Re: LF: Coherent reception Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6437 Wolf: The item about Coherent Reception in RadCom was copied from an email by me to Dave. If someone can tell me what is the attachment size limit on this reflector, I will see if I can post it here. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198028433162701547 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 26b25a64cafb976ab3052ec70ac90ac90d208853 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs14238wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.251.4 with SMTP id y4mr377043qbh; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:01:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si386210qbe.2006.03.16.11.01.32; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJxfZ-0004mI-KP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJxfZ-0004m9-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:57 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJzFM-00009q-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:39:16 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FJxeJ-0003io-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:56:39 +0100 Received: from p5486b47f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.180.127] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FJxeJ-00076H-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:56:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4419B52E.4040701@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:57:50 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> <027801c6491b$cbcb49c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <027801c6491b$cbcb49c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.152 Subject: Re: LF: Coherent reception Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6438 Greetings Peter and Dave, Any chance to find that article on-line somewhere ? .. or to scan & email it without copyright issues ? Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . >> From Peter G3PLX: > > > Anyone reading G3YXM's column in RadCom April who is puzzling over the > coherent phase and amplitude plot in there from me, please note that > the 'Level' and 'Phase' legends have become transposed. The red trace > is signal phase and the blue is the signal level. The signal being > monitored is about 1500km due south of me, from a well known LF > station in south west europe. > > 73 > Peter > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198028433162701547 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2290c684966c03d709f4c89912f44bab5fdeb39 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs12371wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.244.13 with SMTP id w13mr1302939qbr; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:09:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si4639679qbq.2006.03.16.09.09.05; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJvun-0003yl-5j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:05:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJvum-0003yc-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:05:32 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJxUY-0007Va-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:46:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 72541 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 17:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@86.135.51.50 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 17:05:15 -0000 Message-ID: <027801c6491b$cbcb49c0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:05:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.040 Subject: LF: Coherent reception Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6439 >From Peter G3PLX: Anyone reading G3YXM's column in RadCom April who is puzzling over the coherent phase and amplitude plot in there from me, please note that the 'Level' and 'Phase' legends have become transposed. The red trace is signal phase and the blue is the signal level. The signal being monitored is about 1500km due south of me, from a well known LF station in south west europe. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197604601309820893 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f132f2ac063a962bb5bf0573946ced5ceef9f239 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs44086wra; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with SMTP id z4mr575160qbp; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:52:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si464159qba.2006.03.11.16.52.28; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIEkw-0007gi-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:48:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIEkw-0007gZ-Ar for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:48:22 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIGIx-0003C5-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:27:51 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCBG57RAFENBKJ for (sender ); Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LJ8MS4GE; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:47:16 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:46:40 -0500 Message-ID: <20060311.194707.3040.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3141681260 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewEHktk5CJ6O8sMKYWM7uYnHXo7qktRI61g== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=0.001,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_90_100=0.022,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: LF: * Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_7cc7.2314.4951 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6440 This message is in MIME format. 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----__JNP_000_7cc7.2314.4951-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197673327059394556 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 724b1ebf73e42785fce984989ab48fec223065eb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs54207wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.220.17 with SMTP id s17mr849035ugg; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si4837831ugf.2006.03.12.13.22.59; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIXz9-0002r2-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:20:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIXz8-0002qt-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:20:18 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIZ08-0004SF-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:25:25 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FIXz7-00073c-00; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:20:17 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GQZcTYZSQeThfG8Ir-5iovuKWFsxKhV4Y3G0SVP6qeN0xIfipC714F@[84.133.84.17]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FIXz5-0eBL6G0; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:20:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:20:00 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1541437589.20060312222000@t-online.de> To: Dmitri In-Reply-To: <44147D1F.6080503@mail.ru> References: <1721834021.20060312195915@t-online.de> <44147D1F.6080503@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GQZcTYZSQeThfG8Ir-5iovuKWFsxKhV4Y3G0SVP6qeN0xIfipC714F X-TOI-MSGID: 7463fd49-3419-40bd-b043-cb42dd22b122 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.236,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6441 Dmitry, thanks! The capture can be seen on my website. I'll set my antenna now every day between 17:00 and 21:00 UTC to the east and will look for QRSS3 signals 137.650-137.780 kHz and on a second screen 137.752-137.775 for QRSS20 signals. 73 Hartmut > Hi Hartmut, > great > QTH Izgevsk Loc ~LO77 > Dmitry > Hartmut Wolff wrote: >>Attached a screenshot of a call from UA4WPF in QRSS3 captured 11th of >>March 20:08UTC about 137.760 kHz. Does anybody knows some details of >>the station, locator, tx-setup ? >> >>73 >>Hartmut >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197673327059394556 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 26a4b8431435c0b19b8075b798937975b59fa3c5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs53317wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.163.2 with SMTP id l2mr2504254nfe; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:00:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21si4295222nfc.2006.03.12.12.00.36; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIWhc-0002fr-QZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:58:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIWhc-0002fi-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:58:08 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([194.67.23.149]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIXia-00041I-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:03:13 +0000 Received: from [62.33.236.108] (port=37455 helo=mail.ru) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FIWhZ-000MkI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:58:06 +0300 Message-ID: <44147D1F.6080503@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:57:19 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1721834021.20060312195915@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.143,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6442 Hi Hartmut, great QTH Izgevsk Loc ~LO77 Dmitry Hartmut Wolff wrote: >Attached a screenshot of a call from UA4WPF in QRSS3 captured 11th of >March 20:08UTC about 137.760 kHz. Does anybody knows some details of >the station, locator, tx-setup ? > >73 >Hartmut > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197673327059394556 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b8ff8e22e976c3dea7176da215e83ad4bd621fd2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs52695wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.12.14 with SMTP id p14mr495740nfi; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:04:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id v20si986006nfc.2006.03.12.11.04.50; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIVny-0002Pz-8P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:00:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIVnx-0002Pq-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:00:37 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIWou-0003kI-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:05:41 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FIVmv-000116-02; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:59:33 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Z6k5+EZOZeruie3n-jtCBPyznSwT7XoCO64TvryF4kOjvz4pgdmQ8B@[84.133.100.237]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FIVme-1PlcpM0; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:59:16 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:59:15 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1721834021.20060312195915@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Z6k5+EZOZeruie3n-jtCBPyznSwT7XoCO64TvryF4kOjvz4pgdmQ8B X-TOI-MSGID: 8cac8d82-09c9-4fec-bb43-df363401e16e X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.088,BAYES_20=-1.951 Subject: LF: UA4WPF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------C815B1253C44219D" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6443 ------------C815B1253C44219D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached a screenshot of a call from UA4WPF in QRSS3 captured 11th of March 20:08UTC about 137.760 kHz. 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<003a01c64697$782a9360$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:12:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C6469F.D9B80CE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C6469F.D9B80CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Alan and Jay , Thank for your comment ! Yes ! if I understand well, I am wrong to stop = my night recordings! (it is the opposite of what I could read) I am = young in LF (first winter) On your councils I will continue.=20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Hi Jean Pierre, whats all this about a "season " for LF DX ?? This = seems to be an enduring myth. The only thing is that the storm noise = makes it more uncomfortable to listen in summer, but on quiet nights = there are just as good a signals available, though not for as long, as = in winter. In fact if we are to believe the pundits the Spring Equinox = is supposed to be the best period of the year. I am not personally = convinced of that because it depends much more on the state of = geomagnetic activity. Over the next twelve months as we pass through the = solar minimum the LF propagation conditions should remain quite good, = exceppt for the shorter nights and thunderstorm QRM. 73 de Alan G3NYK www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/lastest.htm for my Propagation = report. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C6469F.D9B80CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Alan and Jay ,
Thank for your comment ! Yes ! if I = understand=20 well, I am wrong to stop my night recordings! (it is the opposite of = what I=20 could read) I am young in LF (first winter) On your councils I will = continue.=20
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj

Hi Jean Pierre, whats all this about a "season " = for LF DX=20 ?? This seems to be an enduring myth. The only thing is that the storm = noise=20 makes it more uncomfortable to listen in summer, but on quiet nights = there are=20 just as good a signals available, though not for as long, as in = winter. In=20 fact if we are to believe the pundits the Spring Equinox is supposed = to be the=20 best period of the year. I am not personally convinced of that because = it=20 depends much more on the state of geomagnetic activity. Over the = next=20 twelve months as we pass through the solar minimum the LF propagation=20 conditions should remain quite good, exceppt for the shorter nights = and=20 thunderstorm QRM.
 
73 de Alan G3NYK
www.alan.meli= a.btinternet.co.uk/lastest.htm =20 for my Propagation report.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C6469F.D9B80CE0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197736598683521001 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c1b1451c7dc9bcbf2141c9095170c1707775f4d6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs64215wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr1967700qbg; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:50:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si1652660qbe.2006.03.13.03.50.30; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIlX9-0004U4-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:48:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIlX9-0004Tv-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:48:19 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FImYQ-00009Z-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:53:44 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060313113231m13001jon9e>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:32:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c64691$d0dd3cc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <002001c6466c$eb96aad0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000801c64690$0f473e40$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:32:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.536,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64667.E791B6A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6464 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64667.E791B6A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000A_01C64667.E791B6A0" ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C64667.E791B6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean-Pierre Thanks for watching and reporting. Unless you have other uses for your = receiving setup you might want consider continuing on for a while = longer. Here is a capture from this side of the pond of CT1DRP from 4 May 05. Not nearly as clean as a mid winter capture but a nice TA signal.=20 Jay, W1VD ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C64667.E791B6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jean-Pierre
 
Thanks for watching and reporting. = Unless you have=20 other uses for your receiving setup you might want consider continuing = on for a=20 while longer.
 
Here is a capture from this side of the = pond of=20 CT1DRP from 4 May 05.
 
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Not nearly as clean as a mid winter = capture but a=20 nice TA signal.
 
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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6466 Hello, Gary and all ! I fall upon this signal by chance and, first, I thought it was an Hellshreiber. It extends from 136328 to 136332 Hz with a beautifull drawing. The screenshot file is too large for the reflector. I send you directly to you, Gary, in a few minutes. Best 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ef13fb1655e3268a574f9e4de3766485c34c4492 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs497wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.88.16 with SMTP id q16mr220282ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:56:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si702183ugc.2006.03.01.08.56.42; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEUax-0005zd-DS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:54:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEUaw-0005zU-Ur for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6471 Hi Markus, Impressive capture - much better than what I ever received from DF0WD/DK4U- and very "monochrome" appearance ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF markusvester@aol.com schrieb: > Hello Part-5-ers and LF Group, > > pleased to report excellent copy also in Nuernberg - see grabber > snapshot saved at > > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603010600.gif (277 kB) > > Thanks for the effort of keeping your signals on air for us. > > 73 de Markus, DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e6f95d1ae21982146b17352df07c77571c5b029d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs41wra; 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Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:19:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c63d4b$f70b43f0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:19:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.599,BAYES_50=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C63D54.5884C040" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6472 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C63D54.5884C040 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Excellent copy of Joe's signal from 00:30 to well after local sunrise at 06:30. XNS and XES good copy after 02:00 / 03:30 UTC. 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post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6473 My thanks also to Markus, Jean-Pierre (both!), Hartmut, Alan, and others for the continuing reports and screen shots. Jay and I are only 100 km apart, and it is fascinating to see the differences in fading. The fact that he now has the stronger signal does not bother me a bit. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 156ff436c29c695f7031f45e13100f7b790fabfe Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs8401wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.89.16 with SMTP id r16mr53164ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:06:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si171089ugf.2006.03.01.04.06.26; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQ2d-00049b-Rc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:02:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEQ2d-00049S-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:02:51 +0000 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FERWi-0000Qa-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:38:15 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.65.56366f45 (16110) for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from FWM-M37 (fwm-m37.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.239]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID122-3eee44058d4f360; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:23 -0500 Message-Id: <8C80B3F22A1608E-2E0-293E0@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> From: markusvester@aol.com References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Received: from 217.194.32.30 by FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.239) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:02:23 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 15106 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AOL-IP: 64.12.193.239 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=0.057,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MailBlocks_8C80B3F2297D726_2E0_28884_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6474 ----------MailBlocks_8C80B3F2297D726_2E0_28884_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Part-5-ers and LF Group, pleased to report excellent copy also in Nuernberg - see grabber snapshot saved at http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603010600.gif (277 kB) Thanks for the effort of keeping your signals on air for us. 73 de Markus, DF6NM ----------MailBlocks_8C80B3F2297D726_2E0_28884_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hello Part-5-ers and LF Group,
 
pleased to report excellent copy also in Nuernberg - see grabber snapshot saved at
 
 
Thanks for the effort of keeping your signals on air for us.
 
73 de Markus, DF6NM
 
----------MailBlocks_8C80B3F2297D726_2E0_28884_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 349af98f44e2d6b1d3b0e442b2c988c23592db84 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs8078wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 03:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.91.19 with SMTP id t19mr36805ugl; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:27:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si146525ugf.2006.03.01.03.27.32; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEPRN-0003ww-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:24:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEPRN-0003wn-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:24:21 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEQMo-0004wr-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:23:43 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006030111233101100km8c6e>; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:23:36 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c63d22$9522b520$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 06:23:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.526,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6475 Thanks to F5YG and F1AFJ for the reports. I would be interested to see a capture if you could send one along. Yes, XNS has been found hiding, out of sight, on more than one Argo or Spectrum Lab screen! Appreciate your taking the time to watch and report your results. This, of course, also goes for Hartmut, Alan, grabbers G3YXM, HA6PX, DF6NM, CT1DRP and everyone else that sends reports. Jay, W1VD, WD2XNS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Pierre Godet" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA > And here, JN09XI, about 250 miles Northward : > NA : 0030 ==> 0605 ; > XKO : 0245 ==> 0330 ; > XES : 0415 ==> 0530 ; > XGJ : 0415 ==> 0600 ; > XNS : 0335 ==> 0625 UTC. > > First time for me that I meet the opportunity to copy so many beacons in > the same night. Thank you to all ! My friend F1AFJ gave me a telling-off > because I use a too small window. I increased a little bit, the size of > the window, from four to five hertz monday evening (137,776.5 ==> > 137,781.5 Hz), so, no problem to receive Jay's beacon now. > > Best 73 to all ! > > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4fd3116f41e2cc30b57116e02cbbd6856dba81ec Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6660wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 01:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr2594726nfw; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:16:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a23si388841nfc.2006.03.01.01.16.57; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FENQB-0003OH-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:14:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FENQA-0003O8-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:14:58 +0000 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FEOuD-0007Gr-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:50:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 125FE1C00088 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:14:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-240.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-240.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.240]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45A851C00091 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:14:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060301091436285.45A851C00091@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:13:41 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.024,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6476 And here, JN09XI, about 250 miles Northward : NA : 0030 ==> 0605 ; XKO : 0245 ==> 0330 ; XES : 0415 ==> 0530 ; XGJ : 0415 ==> 0600 ; XNS : 0335 ==> 0625 UTC. First time for me that I meet the opportunity to copy so many beacons in the same night. Thank you to all ! My friend F1AFJ gave me a telling-off because I use a too small window. I increased a little bit, the size of the window, from four to five hertz monday evening (137,776.5 ==> 137,781.5 Hz), so, no problem to receive Jay's beacon now. Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196636019771666530 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d055ed78a4187c1bf8d92a7c3237fbe6d928e79b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs5473wra; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.98.11 with SMTP id a11mr827011ugm; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:17:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1si232244uge.2006.03.01.00.17.17; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMUo-0002qp-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:15:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEMUi-0002qg-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:15:36 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FENyi-0006jQ-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:50:57 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 69E0718995 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:15:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001a01c63d08$45864d20$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:15:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=-0.047,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C63D10.A6F4F400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6477 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C63D10.A6F4F400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all , on the list ! The last night copy of the TA beacon : 00:30 to 07:00 NA 02:00 to 06:00 XNS , XGJ , XES , XKO =20 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C63D10.A6F4F400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all , = on the list=20 !
 
The last night copy of the TA beacon = :
 
00:30 to 07:00   = NA
02:00 to 06:00  XNS , XGJ = , XES , XKO=20  
73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj=20 JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C63D10.A6F4F400-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198313434700990900 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ed24f8ca0bb69916da27b08096c050117433004a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs975wrc; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.196.18 with SMTP id t18mr1016797qbf; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:39:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si2410254qbe.2006.03.19.12.39.04; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL4dm-0006xD-DX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:36:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL4dm-0006x4-2B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:36:42 +0000 Received: from grunt9.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.51]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL6Ej-0001qz-9y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:19:12 +0000 Received: from (athlon1200) [203.109.215.43] by grunt9.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FL4dS-0001Bc-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:36:22 +1200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.2.5/284]); Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:36:17 +1200 Message-ID: <010401c64b94$c5c89de0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <003501c64b80$6cf488a0$0400a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:36:16 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Low power Tx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BANG_MONEY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6481 Any chance of seeing a cct of this, Walter? Info re xfmrs used would be particularly interesting-just to see how they compare to 'local' designs. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ (who has several tube/valve LF txs!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:10 AM Subject: LF: Low power Tx I found a Decca Aerial Testing Signal Generator Type 1615 at a junk sale a few months ago. It's basically a xtal osc/driver/PA transmitter for LF (Decca freqs 70-127 kHz). Very easily converted for 136 because the o/p transformer is wide-band enough to cover 136 and needs no modifications. Plug about 100 mW 136 kHz RF into a xtal socket and it will give out 20-25w RF into 72 ohms (PA is 2x807's). My old Marconi 2019 SG was quite adequate as signal source. Quite a lot were made so there may be a few more appearing round the junk sales and if you see one it's well worth �5 of anyone's money! Walter G3JKV. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197372432254830510 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d45f3500ad9fea00bfce5dfa8ec1a248c418ae80 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs6487wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.200.5 with SMTP id c5mr1121041qbq; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si870260qba.2006.03.09.06.57.39; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHMVc-0001Rl-Kc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:52:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHMVc-0001Rc-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:52:56 +0000 Received: from smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHO2j-0006kD-Q7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:31:29 +0000 Received: from [82.111.114.189] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FHMU9-000Iqw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:51:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4410464B.3030001@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:14:19 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Galloping Horses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6483 Peter Martinez wrote: > John: > > By all means quote my explanation, but it's not an explanation which > should be attributed to me, since the reason behind it has been known > since LORAN began. It only applies to LORAN transmitters like Lessay > and Sylt which are 'dual rated', that is, which have two distinct > pulse repetition rates. Rugby and Soustons (SW France), for example, > don't gallop. > > The term 'Galloping Horses' has also been around for a while. UK > stations were certainly using it in 1998 when the LORAN problem first > reared it's ugly head on 136kHz. > > I think I may have coined the term. During the early days of listening for test transmissions from G4JNT on 73kHz around the summer of 1997 I was using a loop antenna. I found that I received this strange galloping signal when the loop was orientated for maximum to the south. I put out an e-mail on the reflector asking what this strange signal was (describing it as sounding like Galloping Horses) and G3JKV responded informing me that the signal was from the Loran station at Lessay on 100kHz. The Loran interference was not that bad on 73kHz but was a lot worse when we went to 136kHz. It would hold the S meter at S7 at 2.5kHz IF bandwidth. Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197372432254830510 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: efb6aea6d9c0ddd75f10d1fc65f7e1320f02ff7f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs4176wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 03:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.122.5 with SMTP id z5mr976063qbm; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:22:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si541590qbe.2006.03.09.03.22.14; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHJBk-0000d6-NE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:20:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHJBk-0000cx-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:20:12 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHKB5-0008Se-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:23:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 80670 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2006 11:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.70.251 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2006 11:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:19:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.219,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Galloping Horses Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6484 John: By all means quote my explanation, but it's not an explanation which should be attributed to me, since the reason behind it has been known since LORAN began. It only applies to LORAN transmitters like Lessay and Sylt which are 'dual rated', that is, which have two distinct pulse repetition rates. Rugby and Soustons (SW France), for example, don't gallop. The term 'Galloping Horses' has also been around for a while. UK stations were certainly using it in 1998 when the LORAN problem first reared it's ugly head on 136kHz. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197933216465385593 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 98efe8f459d44fcaf5415e7713f43531e8443c35 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs797wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.218.8 with SMTP id v8mr396632qbq; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:55:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14si197798qbq.2006.03.15.07.55.39; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYHg-0005jm-R3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:51:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYHg-0005jd-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6485 Hello all, Partial copy of XGJ and a few traces from XES and XKO. 73s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197445532387752073 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 149e018ba797be9ad3b4a7679c5bd645e38fb8c4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs17707wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.225.14 with SMTP id c14mr1192817qbr; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:44:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si941182qbq.2006.03.09.22.44.08; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHbIu-0006TF-3y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6489 Rcved only VO1NA last night : First, traces began after 2330 UTC, then two full beautiful NA (about 0140 ==> 0210, and 0255 ==> 0320), then nothing, and, at last, a strong beautiful NA string (abt 0515 ==> 0545). Sunrise at 0618 in JN09XI. 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197355111176250216 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4b7f3df0df77f850033594d949ce16e769baadde Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1639wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.83.9 with SMTP id k9mr833325qbl; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:46:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si583214qba.2006.03.08.22.46.55; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHEt1-0007jh-Fi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:44:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHEt1-0007jY-25 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:44:35 +0000 Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHGQ0-0002rs-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:23:00 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5E75B2800142 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-218.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-218.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.218]) by mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A8E9D280013F for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:44:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060309064400691.A8E9D280013F@mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:42:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001701c64341$123b01b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <001701c64341$123b01b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.016,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: TA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6497 XGJ : 0200 ==> 0300 UTC ; NA : five strong beautiful NA strings 0100 ==> 0615 ! XNS : traces only 0330 ==> 0400 Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197816351647919615 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: db5b78aeaf38df7d6767234568acd8be65667edf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20955wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.210.6 with SMTP id m6mr307047qbq; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:44:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si3772544qbc.2006.03.14.07.44.35; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBYg-0000eU-0r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:35:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBYf-0000eL-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:35:37 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJCaU-0001Gn-Cj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:41:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter04.comcast.net ([204.127.197.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060314153448m1200mf5pge>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:34:48 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter04.comcast.net; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:34:47 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: Jean-Pierre M�r� Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:34:47 +0000 Message-Id: <031420061534.17346.4416E2970003FC72000043C222007503300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-2.012,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.285,MPART_ALT_DIFF=1.505 Subject: Re: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6498 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the report and the captures! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre M�r� > Hi all on the list ! > > I Copy only WD2XGJ > > 23:00 to 23:30 > 00:00 to 00:30 > 03:00 to 03:30 > > the captures are on : > http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ > > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Jean-Pierre M�r� To: Subject: LF: TA the last night Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:58:48 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
I Copy only WD2XGJ
 
23:00 to 23:30
00:00 to 00:30
03:00 to 03:30
 
the=20 captures are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17346_1142350487_0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197816351647919615 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 707ea912e1959445730ed949833c0486c1c3a05f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs15484wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.74.12 with SMTP id b12mr532812qbl; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:58:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si3495679qbc.2006.03.14.00.58.08; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ5Jq-00080w-6W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ5Jm-00080n-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:50 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJ6sc-0007Ss-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:36:14 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 4866054828 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002b01c64745$0a96d350$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:55:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.206,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C6474D.6C0EF010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6499 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C6474D.6C0EF010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! I Copy only WD2XGJ=20 23:00 to 23:30 00:00 to 00:30 03:00 to 03:30 the captures are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C6474D.6C0EF010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
I Copy only WD2XGJ
 
23:00 to 23:30
00:00 to 00:30
03:00 to 03:30
 
the=20 captures are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C6474D.6C0EF010-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197716185215413487 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 616097801514bf02dcd85ac3963ef530dd256981 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs34wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.96.20 with SMTP id t20mr3342qbb; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:53:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si1437598qbd.2006.03.17.17.53.57; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKQc2-0007OR-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:52:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKQc1-0007OI-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:52:13 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKSCF-0006Pl-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:34:03 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter79.comcast.net ([204.127.197.179]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060318015137m1100c8a5de>; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:51:47 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter79.comcast.net; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:51:35 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Dave G3WCB" Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:51:35 +0000 Message-Id: <031820060151.2569.441B67A7000D084300000A0922007610640B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.978 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ last night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6500 Dave, Thank you for the XGJ capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dave G3WCB" > > Hi Warren, LF, > > Strong reception of XGJ last night from switch-on until about 0330utc, then > another peak, not as strong, about 0430utc. Screenshot of 0300 capture > attached. Full screenshots available if required. > > RX Antenna here is a 1.3m square loop at ground level. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197716185215413487 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5aa290299d4510c1688c9c2d932658695338ac45 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs123wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.150.16 with SMTP id c16mr2165113qbo; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:32:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si1209325qbd.2006.03.13.06.31.47; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIo1Q-0004ye-Ek for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIo1Q-0004yV-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:44 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIpZy-00054Q-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:07:49 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter88.comcast.net ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060313142718m13001vsp8e>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:18 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter88.comcast.net; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:17 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:17 +0000 Message-Id: <031320061427.24589.441581450001C32F0000600D22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.092 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ last night X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6501 Hello Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the reception report! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Godet > Rcvd XGJ 0200 ==> 0410 UTC, strong storm statics 0415 ==> 0620. > > Best 73 ! > > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197716185215413487 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6dd088bf25f0e3c05fd0e7ff336e7cb26dabea8f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs60031wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.233.7 with SMTP id k7mr1857645qbr; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:26:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si1316635qbe.2006.03.12.22.26.02; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIgRD-0003jw-SY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:21:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIgRD-0003jn-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:21:51 +0000 Received: from smtp12.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIhzh-0000DC-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:01:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 142A21C00091 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:21:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-238.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-238.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.238]) by mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5FA6F1C0008E for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:21:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060313062129391.5FA6F1C0008E@mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:20:22 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.014,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6502 Rcvd XGJ 0200 ==> 0410 UTC, strong storm statics 0415 ==> 0620. Best 73 ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198228570224347968 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6172573f26316c8e24929df7e0b19af77a0d97ba Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs13762wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.237.18 with SMTP id o18mr312745qbr; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si5958224qbq.2006.03.18.14.10.11; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKja8-0002Cp-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:07:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKja8-0002Cg-BR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:07:32 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKlAk-0004ED-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:49:41 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FKjZs-000199-04; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:07:16 +0100 Received: from HW1 (E4miE6ZHoeGC-0QeIB5uEDcCKSdhWr+kLtSU-mJPFES88OCdUR0V6B@[84.133.110.232]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FKjZm-0j77U80; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:07:10 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:07:09 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Partial copy of CQs in QRSS3 on 137.7736 19:06-19:12 and 19:16-19:22. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197309076227634083 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 25c5caee202b5bdd975ad603e3dd465026ab6ecb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs26448wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.192.5 with SMTP id u5mr573516qbp; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:35:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si414240qbe.2006.03.08.10.35.13; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3Qc-0004h8-I6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:30:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3Qc-0004gz-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:30:30 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH4Pb-0002Ax-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:33:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 50081 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.70.251 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0000 Message-ID: <01ea01c642de$5fb72990$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:30:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.093,BAYES_05=-0.413 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Real QRP tests Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6505 Andy: OK, let's give it a try at -23dBm (5uW) over the 400km path between us. I can handle any decimal part of a Hz now, not just proper fractions of a Hz, so long as I can leave the system running continuously. GPS-lock would be fine - I don't want to use up the Caesium. I am not familiar with the band-plan, so you choose a frequency and give it to me with as many decimal places as you can. Contact me off-reflector and we can set it up. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198747101425602130 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0ed69e84761fd56b8651a54d7698f2783c8b2340 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs38706wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.176.8 with SMTP id d8mr730925qbp; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:32:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si2315695qba.2006.03.24.07.32.01; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMoED-0001W0-0Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:29:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMoEC-0001Vr-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:29:28 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMpqu-0000g9-CS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:13:50 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FMoCv-00034G-02; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:28:09 +0100 Received: from HW1 (S9NmSaZYreq-KsCLwhH+vB7I+kzyEANhdnQOfam3vl9EJdjUAw-dY0@[84.133.111.232]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FMoCh-1PC9WC0; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:27:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:27:51 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <20289596.20060324162751@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: S9NmSaZYreq-KsCLwhH+vB7I+kzyEANhdnQOfam3vl9EJdjUAw-dY0 X-TOI-MSGID: 83cf5d44-59f5-4d54-bf54-d384b7528c7a X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.062 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 23/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6506 Good signal levels and high static. Copied WD2XGJ, WD2XNS and WD2XES (WOLF10). Captures 23:00-06:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197989484348566428 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a50044d762f1ea6dd11065571c5db77146e11278 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs3726wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.253.13 with SMTP id f13mr848353qbs; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si1046053qba.2006.03.15.22.50.01; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJmFL-0000mo-Pe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:46:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJmFL-0000mf-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:46:07 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJnoy-0001Q3-2t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:27:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C60B1C00455 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:45:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-239.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-239.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.239]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F7001C00443 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:45:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060316064536391.5F7001C00443@mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:44:26 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.191 Subject: LF: Traces of XGJ last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6507 Traces of XGJ, from 0245 to 0510 UTC on abt 137,779.74 Hz (+-). Best 73 Jay and all ! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198116522355160059 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 821253d86f5b7a157b56705038eea32c5d49f7af Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs2669wra; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.214.16 with SMTP id r16mr366983qbq; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si3512939qbe.2006.03.17.08.29.00; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKHnM-0004iY-Vy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:27:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKHnM-0004iO-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:27:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout0157.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.157] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKJNV-00025G-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:09:00 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.232.87) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43E3F793004F7BEA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:25:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c649df$5d662df0$57e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: References: <4419831F.8010501@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:24:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.172 Subject: LF: Re: UA0AGC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6521 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: LF: UA0AGC > Hi LF, > > UA0AGC qrss40 beacon 17-18 mart from 18 to 21 UTC, 137702 > Text - only dot The best time for UA0AGC on 160m is around Uk sunset time, last worked from here on 25-12-05 at 1751z. The pattern seems to be the same for136 khz dx around sunset or sunrise is optimum plus/minus a bit. de G3KEV > > Dmitry > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198297035404409990 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3ea8acab1399ea5b64fbbb9276634e921d3dcaf2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs2548wrc; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.64.7 with SMTP id r7mr122197nfk; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:30:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o45si897404nfa.2006.03.19.14.30.52; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL6OG-0007Bk-KU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:28:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL6OG-0007Bb-8G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:28:48 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL7Sh-0001Aj-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:37:28 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.2f9.107b6fe (4418) for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:24:50 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2f9.107b6fe.314f3432@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:24:50 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.183,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 18/19 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2f9.107b6fe.314f3432_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6526 --part1_2f9.107b6fe.314f3432_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF Group, a saved grabber screenshot around 1:00 last night is on http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603190200.gif (343kB), It shows five TA traces and CW blur from Joe, who appeared to be stronger than seen before. 73 and good luck Markus, DF6NM --part1_2f9.107b6fe.314f3432_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF Group,

a saved grabber screenshot around 1:00 last night is on
http:= //members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_2006/testTA0603190200.gif (343kB),
It shows five TA traces and CW blur from Joe, who appeared to be stronger th= an seen before.

73 and good luck

Markus, DF6NM
 --part1_2f9.107b6fe.314f3432_boundary-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198297035404409990 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 36235b8ae79416d5c207e18798fbf8eecca0666f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs24201wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.205.7 with SMTP id h7mr1171105qbq; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:42:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3si4312379qbe.2006.03.19.10.42.47; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL2oz-0006Py-Qs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:40:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL2oz-0006Pp-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:40:09 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL3tK-0000Hn-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:48:44 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter03.comcast.net ([204.127.197.113]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060319183922m13005jtate>; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:39:22 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter03.comcast.net; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:39:22 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:39:22 +0000 Message-Id: <031920061839.22301.441DA55A0003D8570000571D22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.983 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 18/19 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6527 Hi Hartmut, Good captures despite the poorer conditions. I have noticed that the 5wpm cw "blur" from VO1NA really obliterates the captures +/- 1.5 Hz from the VO1NA frequency. It was very noticeable on your capture and also on Dave Pick G3YXM's grabber last night. I thought there might have been indications of Dex's XKO beacon but it was buried by the cw blur from VO1NA. Thanks for monitoring and keeping a great website. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Poorer signal levels from the US Part 5 stations last night. But > excellent copy of VO1NA in QRSS30 and weak copy of the 5 wpm CW. > > T/A captures 23:30-04:45 and the XES JASON slow screenshot can be seen > here: > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198297035404409990 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b9739596cf9ccde2b7742083dede34e3766a25e5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs22511wra; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.243.7 with SMTP id q7mr1323344ugh; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si2180321ugf.2006.03.19.08.18.25; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0ag-0005o0-SK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:17:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FL0ag-0005nq-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:17:14 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FL2BX-0008Pv-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:59:41 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FL0aN-0001mC-05; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:16:55 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Z4CFYTZrgerAYCQnvQakcFG5OVEU9GuOX+A2bZ+SJjkoAiCNhrG3Ql@[84.133.79.231]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FL0aC-0mh1xA0; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:16:44 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:16:43 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <571224867.20060319171643@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Z4CFYTZrgerAYCQnvQakcFG5OVEU9GuOX+A2bZ+SJjkoAiCNhrG3Ql X-TOI-MSGID: 5a72a6f2-ed92-49e9-a369-e5c67908d314 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.128 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 18/19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6528 Poorer signal levels from the US Part 5 stations last night. But excellent copy of VO1NA in QRSS30 and weak copy of the 5 wpm CW. T/A captures 23:30-04:45 and the XES JASON slow screenshot can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197267017943177687 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 818162bffb60cf01db67c9313daaad148392db9a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs19384wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 23:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.17 with SMTP id d17mr193457qbf; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:26:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si135625qba.2006.03.07.23.26.43; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGt2A-0001Dn-ID for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:24:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGt25-0001De-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:24:29 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGu0o-00061b-PK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:27:17 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D0572236D for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:23:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c64281$4089e0b0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:23:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.004,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.114 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C64289.A03A83E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6529 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C64289.A03A83E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all on the list ! The last night , small conditions !=20 I copied : XGJ, XKO, NA and XNS (traces) the captures of this night are on : =20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C64289.A03A83E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello all on the list !
The last = night , small=20 conditions !
I copied = : XGJ, XKO,=20 NA and XNS (traces)
the = captures of this=20 night are on : =
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
7= 3 qro=20 Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C64289.A03A83E0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199201511583620385 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6cd305f4ba840e6b44fe17a40d7ed618cbf47658 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5020wrc; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.88.10 with SMTP id l10mr134411qbb; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:54:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si682792qbe.2006.03.29.07.54.40; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FOcy5-0004cV-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:52:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FOcy4-0004cM-Gb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:52:20 +0100 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49] helo=mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FOecf-0001ek-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:38:38 +0100 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060329155157.RHGX27969.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:51:57 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060329155157.MSZE24467.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:51:57 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:51:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <442ABB27.24898.25CD8DA@localhost> In-reply-to: <000501c65187$5effe020$2102000a@ibm> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.828,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: LX Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6538 > I'm planning to built a bit stronger station for 136kHz to take with > me to LX later this year............ > Dick, PA4VHF Dick, The biggest problem experienced by DXpeditions is being able to receive. Many have been good signals but have been unable to work more than a few strong stations because of noise pick-up on the transmit antenna. With a good antenna, you will not need a great amount of power, so it is best not to spend too much time n the Tx (except to make it 'bomb- proof' so it does not fail when presented with an odd load impedance). The time saved can then be spent on constructing a loop antenna that can be located away from the operating position. This can be used to null out any unexpected local QRM. Remember to de-tune the Tx antenna (eg disconnect the earth) when using the Rx antenna. An alternative receive antenna is the EWE. Looking forward to adding LX to my log. 73 de Mike, G3XDV =============== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198920712165876674 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ef9a1e952d90951537ec3eefaac2cf3029694e76 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs24155wrc; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr1871534qbe; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:31:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si1134280qba.2006.03.26.05.31.28; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNVIm-0000mf-5F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:29:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNVIl-0000mW-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:29:03 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNWwE-0007jE-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:14:10 +0100 Received: from server (dial165-ripley2.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.149.165]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 71C0B5E76; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:28:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00fb01c650d1$40e0d060$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. 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Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:31:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.235,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: XNS Sunday morning HELL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F7_01C650D9.8DCA2B80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6553 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01C650D9.8DCA2B80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00F8_01C650D9.8DCA2B80" ------=_NextPart_001_00F8_01C650D9.8DCA2B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jay, Nice HELL signals here this morning at 13:30 UTC along with the usual others in QRSS. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr ------=_NextPart_001_00F8_01C650D9.8DCA2B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Jay,
 
Nice HELL signals here this morning at = 13:30 UTC=20 along with the usual
others in QRSS.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and = wind=20 powered
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for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0vm-0006Na-0C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:26:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK0vl-0006NR-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:26:53 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK2Vc-0001md-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:08:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 16993 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 22:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.154.12.175 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 22:25:36 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:26:49 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: RE: RE: Unid carrier on 136,520... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C64948.B7EA33D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6555 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C64948.B7EA33D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Uwe and Gary and Peter, It's clearly audible here, almost 30dB above noise, Spectran screenshot attached. How much power is Walter running? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 16 March 2006 22:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Unid carrier on 136,520... Hi Dave & LF, I can just hear it over noise, good signal showing on SpecLab qrss03. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 16 March 2006 21:29 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Unid carrier on 136,520... Dear LF, Anybody else hear the strong unid carrier on 136.52 kHz? 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Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <99.70efb44f.313c5b45@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:18:29 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.013,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: LF: What's the best receiver? / mini ccts transformers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1141571909" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6557 -------------------------------1141571909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/03/2006 12:38:28 GMT Standard Time, alan.melia@btinternet.com writes: Hi Martin, as Dave says the most cost effective way would be Albertos mod, even if you have to pay someone to do it for you. If it helps........... I've been asked by a station in Denmark to order some of the mini circuit transformers for Alberto's modification as they are difficult to get hold of over there. If you decide to modify the 950 I can add an extra transformer to my order. Regards David 'MRF -------------------------------1141571909 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 05/03/2006 12:38:28 GMT Standard Time,=20 alan.melia@btinternet.com writes:
Hi=20 Martin, as Dave says the most cost effective way would be Albertos=20 mod,
even if you have to pay someone to do it for=20 you.
 
If it helps...........
 
I've been asked by a station in Denmark to order some of the mini circu= it=20 transformers for Alberto's modification as they are difficult to get hold of= =20 over there.  If you decide to modify the 950 I can add an extra transfo= rmer=20 to my order.
 
Regards
 
David  'MRF
 -------------------------------1141571909-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197992706708688807 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 19f9799a3aec303a021c2670a128b62f7cfa187c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs4691wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.18 with SMTP id q18mr803253qbp; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:41:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d12si1192012qbc.2006.03.15.23.41.14; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJn4z-0001A2-TP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:39:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJn4y-00019t-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:39:28 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJoeW-0001rl-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:20:36 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id D358D6A6D4 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:39:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000d01c648cc$b4bd4930$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:39:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.120,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C648D5.162E3A00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6561 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C648D5.162E3A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , poor conditions for me ! with a strong static activity=20 only some traces of "XGJ" =20 Good "G J" at 04:45 to 05:15 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C648D5.162E3A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
The last night , poor conditions for me = !
with a strong static activity =
only some traces=20 of  "XGJ"  
Good "G J" at 04:45 to = 05:15
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C648D5.162E3A00-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197842585211685844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 79f6e255d010ea2d054a2d8a87596c62181a922f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21648wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr2059017qbf; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18si3803132qbq.2006.03.14.08.29.56; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJCLa-00017s-1e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:26:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJCLZ-00017j-Et for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:26:09 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJDNR-0001VE-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:32:10 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FJCLX-0003f4-01; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:26:07 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GD4r+MZvZeKJiNJXByg97AplzS2xOTYt6TS1ExRGrZCq3zQAYq50rF@[84.133.123.70]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FJCLN-1dhtXk0; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:25:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:25:56 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1622022340.20060314172556@t-online.de> To: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ In-Reply-To: <031420061557.23203.4416E7E5000BAA9500005AA322058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <031420061557.23203.4416E7E5000BAA9500005AA322058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GD4r+MZvZeKJiNJXByg97AplzS2xOTYt6TS1ExRGrZCq3zQAYq50rF X-TOI-MSGID: 566eaf2a-7cbf-46aa-a3d4-008de8b7c004 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.047 Subject: Re: LF: T/A and EU signals Mar, 12/13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6562 Warren, > Your location seems to remain quiet even as the Spring storms > approach here. the noise faded in with your signal last night. Not so good visible on the compressed screenshots. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197842585211685844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b47dcba66935ccd9dc8d39a7d3ad37e7f76cd88b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21260wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.196.19 with SMTP id t19mr130054qbf; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:02:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si1811593qba.2006.03.14.08.02.49; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBuc-0000wp-Tz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:58:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBub-0000wg-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:58:17 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJCwO-0001OR-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:04:15 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060314155727m1400gj6v1e>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:57:27 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:57:25 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:57:25 +0000 Message-Id: <031420061557.23203.4416E7E5000BAA9500005AA322058891160B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.021 Subject: Re: LF: T/A and EU signals Mar, 12/13 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6563 Hi Hartmut, Thank you for the captures. Your location seems to remain quiet even as the Spring storms approach here. I hope some of my Part 5 experimental colleagues will return to the Trans-Atlantic window soon. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Captured WD2XGJ about 22:50-04:00. Unreadable traces on 137781 > 23:30-0015. > Captures of WD2XGJ can be seen on my website. Added also screenshots > of DK7SU, UA4WPF and G3XIZ from the 12th. > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197842585211685844 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2507b0270b2eb4da36de3bfe931e023a3aa43803 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21128wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.113.2 with SMTP id q2mr2286187qbm; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:55:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si2908799qba.2006.03.14.07.55.05; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBlx-0000lZ-6K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:49:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJBlw-0000lQ-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:49:20 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJCnk-0001KR-EY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:55:18 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FJBkr-0003aR-0A; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:48:13 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bd1GWiZZ8ea0ZS6Qm3odTrttv5+i8INo3cqY5qHli-WOw4nlZ9Pp8f@[84.133.123.70]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FJBkl-2GJtKa0; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:48:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:48:06 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <587827187.20060314164806@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bd1GWiZZ8ea0ZS6Qm3odTrttv5+i8INo3cqY5qHli-WOw4nlZ9Pp8f X-TOI-MSGID: 245cd889-c27b-456c-8cd6-e239e0b7000e X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.056 Subject: LF: T/A and EU signals Mar, 12/13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6564 Captured WD2XGJ about 22:50-04:00. Unreadable traces on 137781 23:30-0015. Captures of WD2XGJ can be seen on my website. Added also screenshots of DK7SU, UA4WPF and G3XIZ from the 12th. http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197751661210797247 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 052c4ad6316be7de8d7fe38ee78298a138aafb99 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2982wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.114.20 with SMTP id m20mr94810qbc; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si1073860qbe.2006.03.13.09.06.15; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqT0-0005gd-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:04:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqT0-0005gU-6r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:04:22 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIrUO-0002Gh-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:09:54 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter19.comcast.net ([204.127.197.129]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060313170336m13001vfsje>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:03:36 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter19.comcast.net; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:03:34 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:03:34 +0000 Message-Id: <031320061703.16097.4415A5E600047DB000003EE122069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.095 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 12/13 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6569 Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the captures! You have an unbelievably great LF receiving setup and a very quiet location! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Lonely "XGJ" with a very strong signal visible in the T/A window > 02:00-06:30. > > Captures 02:00-06:00 can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197751661210797247 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3b002f0a48a2c8f595dfddf362c2124391fc59a4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1613wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.154.19 with SMTP id g19mr2251710qbo; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:49:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si422165qba.2006.03.13.07.49.54; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIpGc-0005Hm-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:47:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIpGc-0005Hd-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:47:30 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIqHy-0001oS-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:53:00 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FIpGY-0003rk-06; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:47:26 +0100 Received: from HW1 (E4klk8ZCre4NQMXoe7mYKKe9F00YmD2QJpK-5zYWAV9JojHReBEekx@[84.133.122.201]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FIpGM-1xauqO0; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:47:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:47:07 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <07405533.20060313164707@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: E4klk8ZCre4NQMXoe7mYKKe9F00YmD2QJpK-5zYWAV9JojHReBEekx X-TOI-MSGID: 049425c7-a33c-4bcb-9745-b6c3dd135e75 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.065 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 12/13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6570 Lonely "XGJ" with a very strong signal visible in the T/A window 02:00-06:30. Captures 02:00-06:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198208489616188965 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d98ade709ab7ca0cbe5f443adc1701f4701808a1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs9596wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.100.4 with SMTP id c4mr855534qbm; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:51:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14si1739442qba.2006.03.18.08.51.00; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKebY-0001NU-DB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:48:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKebX-0001NL-Lw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:48:39 +0000 Received: from smtpout0146.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.146] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKffN-0003q1-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:56:42 +0000 Received: from your4105e587b6 (62.252.228.28) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 440E1EF30015D646 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:46:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c64aab$8824e460$1ce4fc3e@your4105e587b6> From: "g3kev" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:43:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.515,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.232,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64AAB.16DBBB80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6571 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64AAB.16DBBB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Considering RX only some around EU are getting good results with DX reception using the small mini vertical and others seemingly using small loops. Of the two I wonder which is better. I expect to be meaningful one would need both at the same QTH otherwise environmential variations could have an effect and give different resul,ts. My experience with larger antennas tends to favour the vertical for DX reception. The loop in use here is an 80metre system favouring E/W and works well up to about say 1500 miles in the optimum direction (e/w) and also works for the DX but well down on the vertical. The loop is parallel resonated for 136 khz. and the top horizontal is at 70 ft high. The vertical consists of 3 x inv L's each one 100 ft vertical and over 400 ft horizontal. The vertical drop wires taper from the top to the bottom and connect to the loading coil abt 400 uH and matched to 50 ohms coax which goes to the TX/RX some 150 ft away.(air wound loading/matching inductors) No ferrite material in the cct and no problems. This system is very stable and seldom changes from day to day, once in a while in a snow storm it might wander some hertz then return to normal although provision is made for adjustmenty if necessary. I cannot think of any real improvements here but if I had a small active vertical , PA0 design or similar I would try it, I could build one but do not have the specified transistors. In my case I think the angle of arrival of signals is related to the reception factor ie vertical is better for the long haul low angle sigs and the loop better for the high angle sigs. Your comments on the smaller verts/loops welcome. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64AAB.16DBBB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
Considering RX only some around EU are = getting good=20 results with DX reception using the small mini vertical and others = seemingly=20 using small loops.
Of the two I wonder which is better. I = expect to=20 be meaningful one would need both at the same QTH otherwise = environmential=20 variations could have an effect and give different = resul,ts.
My experience with larger antennas = tends to=20 favour the vertical for DX reception.
 
The loop in use here is an 80metre=20 system favouring E/W and works well up to about say 1500 = miles in the=20 optimum direction (e/w) and also works for the DX but well down on the=20 vertical.
The loop is parallel resonated for 136 = khz. and the=20 top horizontal is at 70 ft high.
 
The vertical consists of 3 x inv = L's each one=20 100 ft vertical and over 400 ft horizontal. The vertical drop=20 wires taper from the top to the bottom and connect to the loading = coil abt=20 400 uH and matched to 50 ohms coax which goes to the TX/RX some 150 ft = away.(air=20 wound loading/matching inductors)
No ferrite material in the cct and = no=20 problems. This system is very stable and seldom changes from day to day, = once in=20 a while in a snow storm it might wander some = hertz then return to normal although provision is made = for=20 adjustmenty if necessary.
 
I cannot think of any real improvements = here but if=20 I had a small active vertical , PA0 design or similar I would try it, I = could=20 build one but do not have the specified transistors.
 
In my case I think the angle of arrival = of signals=20 is related to the reception factor ie vertical is better for the long = haul low=20 angle sigs and the loop better for the high angle = sigs.
 
Your comments on the smaller = verts/loops=20 welcome.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C64AAB.16DBBB80-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1196755846790335343 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a86e7463a53c6e3c1dd853bf563199d789b4a207 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs9832wra; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr558698ugj; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:01:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si718068uge.2006.03.02.08.01.53; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FEqCe-0004vb-SP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:58:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FEqCe-0004vS-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:58:56 +0000 Received: from bay116-f19.bay116.hotmail.com ([64.4.38.29] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FErh8-0007MT-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:34:47 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:58:11 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:58:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.208.42.252] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:58:08 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2006 15:58:11.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B1767D0:01C63E12] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.073,BAYES_00=-2.599,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.054 Subject: LF: 9m6 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6575 We have sert up at our new location some 20 miles to the NE or Kota Kinabalu - Daylight here is appx 2226-1025z and Ill be looking in the region of 136.318 at around 1730z and later and then move to the Americas watering hole at my dusk tomorrow evening. I was too late this evening to catch anyone in VE and W This isnt such a good site and I cant place the aerial where I would like cos we have a 4ft long monitor lizard that seems to like the taste of coax - did you know they can climb a bit too? I can still hear Loran but I have hotel smpsu's to deal with. We will be here now till the 10th, well the equipment will be running anyway. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198805493095238532 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1c71bcfa2fdf242f176c393da38389f533031db1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8750wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.20.4 with SMTP id x4mr1462582qbi; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:52:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si2132028qbe.2006.03.25.05.52.50; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN99Q-0004AR-5Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:49:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN99P-0004AI-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:49:55 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNAGa-0000hY-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:01:26 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter09.comcast.net ([204.127.197.119]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060325134932m1200jgb2ue>; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:49:43 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter09.comcast.net; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:49:32 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Jean-Pierre Godet Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:49:32 +0000 Message-Id: <032520061349.9386.44254A6B000DA790000024AA22007614380B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.908 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ and XNS last week X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6585 Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the report! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Godet > Not too bad, might be worst. > Beacons received these last five nights: > march 20th/21st: > XGJ 0220 ==> 0345 UTC (strong); > march 21st/22nd: > XGJ 0210 ==> 0245; > march 22nd/23rd: > XGJ 0220 ==> 0335; > XNS 0330 ==> 0530 (traces); > march 23rd/24th: > XGJ 0040 ==> 0200 (strong), 0350 ==> 0430 (traces); > XNS 0430 ==> 0500 (traces); > march 24th/25th: > Nothing received between 137,776.5 and 137,781.5 Hz. > Best 73 to all on the reflector ! > F5YG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198805493095238532 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 38488c8e019829c11143d1786b30752005b3f67e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5011wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.3 with SMTP id p3mr1355924qbn; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:00:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si338713qbq.2006.03.24.23.00.06; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN2fZ-0003L0-7g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:54:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN2fY-0003Kr-Ow for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:54:40 +0000 Received: from smtp13.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FN3mc-0006dG-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:06:03 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 19CB5700009D for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-2-206.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-2-206.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.68.206]) by mwinf1309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 553497000085 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:54:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060325065433349.553497000085@mwinf1309.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:53:13 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <227341207.20060323221846@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <227341207.20060323221846@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.169 Subject: LF: XGJ and XNS last week Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6586 Not too bad, might be worst. Beacons received these last five nights: march 20th/21st: XGJ 0220 ==> 0345 UTC (strong); march 21st/22nd: XGJ 0210 ==> 0245; march 22nd/23rd: XGJ 0220 ==> 0335; XNS 0330 ==> 0530 (traces); march 23rd/24th: XGJ 0040 ==> 0200 (strong), 0350 ==> 0430 (traces); XNS 0430 ==> 0500 (traces); march 24th/25th: Nothing received between 137,776.5 and 137,781.5 Hz. Best 73 to all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198719028037133373 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 903328c9da134f16738ffdae23ffb21cccb37dcd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs31389wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.208.19 with SMTP id f19mr560841qbg; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:05:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si662080qbe.2006.03.24.00.05.48; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMhF3-0000kV-Un for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:01:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMhEy-0000kM-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:01:48 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMirX-0005ok-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:46:03 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EF0C486F1 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:01:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001301c64f19$277b0c30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:01:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.947,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64F21.88DB5B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6603 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64F21.88DB5B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry verry poor conditions for me ! only some traces of "XGJ" ( not readable! )=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64F21.88DB5B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
only some traces = of  "XGJ" ( not=20 readable! ) 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C64F21.88DB5B30-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199366284791738298 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: de779433d3ac40769070f6f50d7af0c52fd08ed7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs36620wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr431389nfk; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h1si119945nfe.2006.03.31.08.42.42; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMfo-0003y4-6Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:40:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPMfn-0003xv-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:40:31 +0100 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPOLC-0004yP-4V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:27:37 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 173E11C0008C for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:40:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-1-234.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.230.234]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA7581C00081; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:40:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20060331164009960.EA7581C00081@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603311839550854.021DC57E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000001c654b6$49efa120$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <000001c654b6$49efa120$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:39:55 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: peter.kirby@rsgb.org.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.780 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby LORAN measurement? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6623 Do you know the time of day when there will be a break, please? I do not= expect to notice it in Burgundy but would like to see if I'm wrong. 73 John F/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 31/03/2006 at 13:28 John W Gould wrote: >Given that there may be a short break in LORAN transmission this coming >Tuesday I thought that I would post an e-mail requesting measurement of= the >background noise floor, whilst the Rugby transmitter is off, and a further >measurement when the Rugby LORAN signal re-appears. It would be helpful= if >this could be done in a number of locations around the UK, especially= where >the interference is significant, so that we can get a better picture as to >the extent of the problem. Unfortunately, I will be travelling on Tuesday >so won't be able to participate from my QTH in Newport Pagnell. > >I would like to be able to compare results from a number of sources, so it >may be best to calculate the difference between the noise level in say a >500Hz bandwidth with and without the Rugby LORAN transmission and thus >compare S/N. The other measurement that is probably worth doing is to >measure the S/N of one of the lines. Any other suggestions? > >On the complaint front the RSGB made an official approach last year and= had >a reply from Trinity House. However, at the time it looked as if the NELS >might close many of its LORAN transmitters at the end of 2005. Given that >this didn't happen, and the continuing nature of the problem from the= Rugby >transmitter, I feel that we now need to follow-up our initial approach,= and >perhaps widen our concerns, given that a proposal for an Amateur Secondary >allocation at 136kHz is on the agenda for WRC07. > >73 John, G3WKL >RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1199366284791738298 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bd5707cbe4f1f21760b6b9ff9bee71689cecb137 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs30318wrc; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.31.16 with SMTP id i16mr211076nfj; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:33:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n23si277988nfc.2006.03.31.03.33.41; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FPHp5-0003HU-88 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:29:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FPHp1-0003HL-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:29:43 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FPJUK-00019Y-3O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:16:44 +0100 Received: from acer5gi5q0ubzj (unknown [62.147.169.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD244901D; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:28:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "John W Gould" To: Cc: "Peter Kirby" Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:28:46 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c654b6$49efa120$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Rugby LORAN measurement? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6624 Given that there may be a short break in LORAN transmission this coming Tuesday I thought that I would post an e-mail requesting measurement of the background noise floor, whilst the Rugby transmitter is off, and a further measurement when the Rugby LORAN signal re-appears. It would be helpful if this could be done in a number of locations around the UK, especially where the interference is significant, so that we can get a better picture as to the extent of the problem. Unfortunately, I will be travelling on Tuesday so won't be able to participate from my QTH in Newport Pagnell. I would like to be able to compare results from a number of sources, so it may be best to calculate the difference between the noise level in say a 500Hz bandwidth with and without the Rugby LORAN transmission and thus compare S/N. The other measurement that is probably worth doing is to measure the S/N of one of the lines. Any other suggestions? On the complaint front the RSGB made an official approach last year and had a reply from Trinity House. However, at the time it looked as if the NELS might close many of its LORAN transmitters at the end of 2005. Given that this didn't happen, and the continuing nature of the problem from the Rugby transmitter, I feel that we now need to follow-up our initial approach, and perhaps widen our concerns, given that a proposal for an Amateur Secondary allocation at 136kHz is on the agenda for WRC07. 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198753102542828840 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: be19dbcc29f2c226a5b4ae6b9aa3623750fcb367 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs40502wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.20 with SMTP id o20mr889622qbb; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:07:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si1293822qba.2006.03.24.09.07.24; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMphU-0001nS-Ec for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:03:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMphU-0001nI-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:03:48 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMrKB-0001QN-Cc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:48:11 +0000 Received: from [147.197.215.113] (helo=tucana.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1FMph2-0006b7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:03:20 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1FMph1-0002Rz-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:03:19 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:03:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c64f64$d9c666a0$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <02c201c64f22$0dc403b0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-Information: X-H-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.125 Subject: LF: RE: Re: portable DX-pedition antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6653 Dear LF Group, My fishing poles are also black, but proved to be good insulators, with the wire attached directly to the poles without requiring any additional insulation. I think carbon fibre poles would be a lot more expensive than the ones sold via the amateur radio retailers. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU >>From G3PLX: I have some black coloured poles (from www.sotabeams.co.uk) but they were certainly not carbon fibre, but glass fibre. Maybe the black paint was conducting, I don't know. I wanted them as conducting elements anyway so it was not important. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198175551693392232 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 2783d8153d926d0caaadb9016cae64799fecb594 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs12087wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.11 with SMTP id n11mr895635qbm; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:23:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si1325980qbq.2006.03.18.12.23.24; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKhw2-0001tS-HT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKhw2-0001tJ-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:02 +0000 Received: from mx1.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16] helo=cupids.ucs.mun.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKizw-0004Ne-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:30:09 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by cupids.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2IKKq6x002572 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:50:52 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k2IKKq6W012206 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:50:52 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k2IKKqix010346; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:50:52 -0330 (NST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:50:51 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c64a62$93a93c30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <000f01c64a62$93a93c30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.324,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: TA the last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6665 Dear Group, The ice had melted off the aerial yesterday afternoon, so I raised the thing back in the air and started transmitting again with about 3 amps. Many thanks to Hartmut, F1AFJ F5YG, G3NYK, VE3OT VE3EAR and those who run the grabbers for the signal reports. The application to extend the authorisation to transmit on 2200 has been endorsed by RAC (our national radio society) and forwarded to Industry Canada. It was to expire on the 31 March. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198175551693392232 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e0eef89ed23966139af5689eff4e30ac85a39256 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs3392wra; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:07:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.180.1 with SMTP id h1mr95895qbp; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:07:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si2423810qbe.2006.03.18.00.07.29; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:07:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FKWRA-0000DC-MW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:05:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FKWR5-0000D2-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:05:19 +0000 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FKY1O-0008KX-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:47:14 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A9B89AA4E for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:04:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000f01c64a62$93a93c30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:04:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.115,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: Fw: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C64A6A.F3F02BF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6666 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C64A6A.F3F02BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! Good Copy of : WD2XGJ , WD2XNS , VO1NA WD2XKO (only traces ) the captures are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C64A6A.F3F02BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
Good Copy of :
WD2XGJ , WD2XNS ,=20 VO1NA
WD2XKO (only traces )
the=20 captures are on :
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C64A6A.F3F02BF0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198808737095212999 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e3b7262bf271124e473fabc89a15606a63fd8c4f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5403wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.88.10 with SMTP id l10mr278217qbb; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:51:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si1442894qbd.2006.03.24.23.51.41; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FN3WF-0003UM-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:49:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FN3W9-0003UD-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:49:01 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FN4dC-0006qc-KX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:00:25 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 22F0A2689E for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:48:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003101c64fe0$92e445a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:48:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.128,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C64FE8.F44223A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6691 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C64FE8.F44223A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , verry verry poor conditions for me ! with a strong noise activity=20 only one traces of "XGJ" ( not readable! )=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C64FE8.F44223A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , verry verry poor = conditions for me=20 !
with a strong noise activity =
only one traces = of  "XGJ" ( not=20 readable! ) 
 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C64FE8.F44223A0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197756965959125752 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1fc5768005a049aee06ef6cc1efa0773363606e8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs3069wra; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.178.15 with SMTP id a15mr2248675qbf; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:14:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14si3159589qbq.2006.03.13.09.14.13; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqal-0005nM-Sx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:12:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FIqal-0005nD-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:12:23 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIrcA-0002Jj-OO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:17:55 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.299.726c1d5 (58550) for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:12:13 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <299.726c1d5.314701ec@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:12:12 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.378,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Mini circuits T4-6T-KK81 - Kenwood mod. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1142269932" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6695 -------------------------------1142269932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all. =20 I had a request from OZ8RF to see if I could supply some of the transformer= s=20 for Alberto's modicication to the TS950. =20 Well they seem happy to supply them to me but not ship to Denmark. =20 If anyone in the UK or Eu is interested in in getting one or more of these =20 please let e-mail me off list and I'll try and get together an order for 10=20= =20 pieces. =20 Cost is =A34.88 Each plus shipping. (they are probably $5 in the US !!) =20 Regards =20 =20 David G0MRF -------------------------------1142269932 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all.
 
I had a request from OZ8RF to see if I could supply some of the=20 transformers for Alberto's modicication to the TS950.
 
Well they seem happy to supply them to me but not ship to Denmark.
 
If anyone in the UK or Eu is interested in in getting one or more of th= ese=20 please let e-mail me off list and I'll try and get together an order for 10=20 pieces.
 
Cost is =A34.88 Each plus shipping.  (they are probably $5 in the=20= US=20 !!)
 
Regards
 
 
David   G0MRF
 -------------------------------1142269932-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198503267599225156 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d47a8edd6e6c77bd5881621ef08af01944c7824a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs18010wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.204.15 with SMTP id g15mr175905qbq; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:56:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si4998864qbd.2006.03.21.14.56.23; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLpkA-0005Wj-O7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:54:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLpkA-0005Wa-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:54:26 +0000 Received: from web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLrLt-0003LJ-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:37:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 15915 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2006 22:53:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tsjqFziVt1g2yLdAz3cJY3FysIbJ/iW6cW1HOiENlTxz1cttcXWXxikcYZkiTZT8NyzrHlCHmFbaDRpMTFH8+6PdcBvHdYjZI1xTeB5sA4ysz3D60VkxlgSkxO8yN0Nrt88VPm4wHbAunF4RmgWfc6D1Ys7LURHCq/59XKznUyI= ; Message-ID: <20060321225304.15913.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:53:04 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:53:04 +0000 (GMT) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: LF group MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.514,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: OH1TN - DFCW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1626603783-1142981584=:15195" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6714 --0-1626603783-1142981584=:15195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good signals from OH1TN calling CQ on DFCW-3 at about 2210 Z I replied but my signals were obviously not getting through. 73 Chris G3XIZ --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. --0-1626603783-1142981584=:15195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Good signals from OH1TN calling CQ on DFCW-3 at about 2210 Z
I replied but my signals were obviously not getting through.
 
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Security Centre. --0-1626603783-1142981584=:15195-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e9ffa5e297e59c9647a72b3b073ad4b43b8a5b21 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs9916wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.44.13 with SMTP id w13mr917581qbj; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si5086qba.2006.03.22.11.04.26; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM8aq-0000fd-5S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:02:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM8ap-0000fU-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:02:03 +0000 Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMACs-0001cs-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:45:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 18763 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 19:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2006 19:01:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4421A0F3.8010807@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:09:39 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <548969229.20060322164239@t-online.de> <4421815C.3050509@w1tag.com> <1596295343.20060322185617@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1596295343.20060322185617@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.245 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6718 Hartmut, OK, it will be WOLF10 from 2300 to 0300, and WOLF5 after that. Same freq, 137.577 kHz. John A. Hartmut Wolff wrote: >John, > > > >>Do you do the WOLF reception by recording sound files and processing >>them later? If so, I would like to try an experiment tonight, of running >>WOLF10 up to 0300 UTC, and then switching to WOLF5. >> >> > >as usual I made the processing later from the recorded soundfile. I >used all tricks but never got anything decoded. Sync was all the time >on the right frequency! >Interesting experiment! I'll make a overnight recording. > >Hartmut > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fd9fc009baf7db7fa995b4d90771726826127a06 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs8830wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.6 with SMTP id o6mr513479qbb; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:59:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f18si717156qba.2006.03.22.09.59.39; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM7Zh-0000QV-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:56:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM7Zh-0000QM-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:56:49 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM9Bj-0001DR-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:40:26 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FM7ZR-0001IZ-04; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:56:33 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TltlYaZeweCbwVk5cGCx0ABEmqjv3tPPxIQYuKu3uI4LyslMRXZbgQ@[84.133.89.60]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FM7ZD-29uGbw0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:56:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:56:17 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1596295343.20060322185617@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <4421815C.3050509@w1tag.com> References: <548969229.20060322164239@t-online.de> <4421815C.3050509@w1tag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TltlYaZeweCbwVk5cGCx0ABEmqjv3tPPxIQYuKu3uI4LyslMRXZbgQ X-TOI-MSGID: d4c9b160-add9-43d4-ba99-f7d440575f22 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.090 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6719 John, > Do you do the WOLF reception by recording sound files and processing > them later? If so, I would like to try an experiment tonight, of running > WOLF10 up to 0300 UTC, and then switching to WOLF5. as usual I made the processing later from the recorded soundfile. I used all tricks but never got anything decoded. Sync was all the time on the right frequency! Interesting experiment! I'll make a overnight recording. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 777b83ff162cc2a9ac29b76b148daae3602656ad Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7304wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.196.14 with SMTP id y14mr902474qbp; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:50:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si479025qbq.2006.03.22.08.50.23; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM6VA-00007r-GU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:48:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM6VA-00007i-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:48:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM7av-0000wq-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:58:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 5614 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 16:46:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2006 16:46:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4421815C.3050509@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:54:52 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <548969229.20060322164239@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <548969229.20060322164239@t-online.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.255 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6720 Hartmut, Do you do the WOLF reception by recording sound files and processing them later? If so, I would like to try an experiment tonight, of running WOLF10 up to 0300 UTC, and then switching to WOLF5. John Andrews Hartmut Wolff wrote: >Poores signal levels and higher static. Copied XGJ and partial copy of >XKO. Nil received here of the XES WOLF transmission. > >Captures can be seen here: > >http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > >73 >Hartmut > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 35fbaf3e6926720ac12c6f7ba609501ac85d75e8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs6565wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.74.19 with SMTP id b19mr781136qbl; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:17:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e11si770885qbc.2006.03.22.08.17.16; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5zw-0008NE-F3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:15:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5zw-0008N5-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:15:48 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM7bs-0000WB-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:59:24 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060322161522m1100c4ofge>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:15:22 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:15:20 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:15:20 +0000 Message-Id: <032220061615.24873.442178180007281F0000612922007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.864 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6721 Thank you Hartmut! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Hi Warren, > > > I can not see any new captures on your web page, only those from > > yesterday (21 March). > > > Ooops! I forgot the upload! Now its visible. > > 73 > > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 982cf2cd93076b16fcf39e3fb4962314b92eaacb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs6421wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.84.16 with SMTP id m16mr773663qbl; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si2508521qba.2006.03.22.08.09.19; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5s3-0008GV-I9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:07:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5s3-0008GM-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:07:39 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM7U4-0000QB-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:51:15 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FM5rn-0001pO-02; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:07:23 +0100 Received: from HW1 (JryZZaZQYeYThxAzJYe1Y-M6dx2ZSesvxWnOHhwx8PYm9vvktaFw6A@[84.133.89.60]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FM5rX-12C5su0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:07:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:07:05 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1275938645.20060322170705@t-online.de> To: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ In-Reply-To: <032220061556.22594.442173A400030B430000584222069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <032220061556.22594.442173A400030B430000584222069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: JryZZaZQYeYThxAzJYe1Y-M6dx2ZSesvxWnOHhwx8PYm9vvktaFw6A X-TOI-MSGID: 783ac32e-4374-4c72-a40f-bcc58ec3941e X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.099 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6722 Hi Warren, > I can not see any new captures on your web page, only those from > yesterday (21 March). Ooops! I forgot the upload! Now its visible. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5d3d26bfb82411fe2418d023a76ff8718009776e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs6210wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.210.17 with SMTP id m17mr759550qbq; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si3429196qba.2006.03.22.08.00.02; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5ht-00088g-AP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:57:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5hs-00088X-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:57:08 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM6nc-0000i7-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:07:12 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter20.comcast.net ([204.127.197.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060322155621m1100c5ch9e>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:56:22 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter20.comcast.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:56:20 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Hartmut Wolff Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:56:20 +0000 Message-Id: <032220061556.22594.442173A400030B430000584222069997350B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.931 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6723 Hi Hartmut, I can not see any new captures on your web page, only those from yesterday (21 March). -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Poores signal levels and higher static. Copied XGJ and partial copy of > XKO. Nil received here of the XES WOLF transmission. > > Captures can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198566751490069436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 78973b6c071fd0a2372ce56954c80b83653568e9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs5837wrc; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.214.2 with SMTP id r2mr518730qbq; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:45:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si604769qba.2006.03.22.07.45.25; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5UC-00081N-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:43:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FM5UC-00081E-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:43:00 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FM6Zw-0000bT-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:53:02 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FM5U7-0000fy-06; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:42:55 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XpkmwaZTweZhOsvf4SgVthcCoFjUBAAtZdPqqd8fkybxqW9mZLL7o+@[84.133.89.60]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FM5Tt-1za6kq0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:42:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:42:39 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <548969229.20060322164239@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XpkmwaZTweZhOsvf4SgVthcCoFjUBAAtZdPqqd8fkybxqW9mZLL7o+ X-TOI-MSGID: 330911d8-8a11-4616-8f7b-b55babccbefe X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.989 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6724 Poores signal levels and higher static. Copied XGJ and partial copy of XKO. Nil received here of the XES WOLF transmission. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198475232424332136 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 27591503c4f7d7c8e6ccea62efec35972a0c2198 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs7396wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.248.8 with SMTP id a8mr84726qbs; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:30:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d5si4580320qbd.2006.03.21.07.30.46; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLihH-0004QT-2z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:22:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLihG-0004QK-Lc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:22:58 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLjmW-0002LJ-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:32:30 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FLihC-000328-02; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:22:54 +0100 Received: from HW1 (V81Wg8ZareEmwp4xfi5G4lBHDYvBFTyRhov9axbea8YUDfvvh7nY8O@[84.133.107.114]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FLih5-0W2kM40; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:22:47 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:22:45 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <875397473.20060321162245@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: V81Wg8ZareEmwp4xfi5G4lBHDYvBFTyRhov9axbea8YUDfvvh7nY8O X-TOI-MSGID: f7cf28c2-0132-4912-a5b5-250b76918e63 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.997 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 20/21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6727 Copied WD2XGJ, WD2XNS and WD2XES in WOLF mode. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197308156912698962 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 33aaab935e94c5dddc6ba5fbd0cef5d8b9324e01 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs26273wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.183.16 with SMTP id g16mr537964qbf; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si407392qbc.2006.03.08.10.20.32; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3DT-0004ZC-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:16:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3DT-0004Z3-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:16:55 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH4kC-0005fd-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:55:08 +0000 Received: from [212.248.140.9] ([212.248.140.9]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k28ICKQ2023342 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:12:22 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.2.1/277]); Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:12:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:12:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.003,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Real QRP tests Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6728 Yes, I've now got a commercial synth that goes down to 100kHz in 1Hz steps which should solve your need for N/M Hz intervals. It can supply up to 13dBm so putting that into my (-36dBi) gain antenna may be enough. If not, can always add a quickie amplifier module You can either have the carrier derived from Caesium (2 - 3 hours notice needed) or from GPS (30 minutes notice) Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Martinez" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: LF: Real QRP tests > >From G3PLX: > > If there's anyone within about 500km from me at 54N 3W (i.e. daytime surface > wave range) who could transmit a few micro-watts of very stable (preferably > GPS-derived) carrier on 136kHz, I would like to run some tests with my new > GPS-locked reception scheme to see how low we can go and still detect that > there's something there. It may take some time to detect the signal, but > with that sort of low power there shouldn't be too much problem with leaving > the transmitter on for a day. A quick calculation says that 25mA r.m.s. of > antenna current into an average antenna should produce plenty enough signal. > That's only 150v rms or so, depending on the antenna. The more stable is > the signal, the lower down I should be able to detect it. > > Any one for QRPP? > > 73 > Peter G3PLX > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 2006-03-07 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198390170574206699 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 26134b2db1da4c2688930682f7bf49a1a8e59748 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs16589wrc; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.222.4 with SMTP id z4mr545334qbq; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f18si3722375qba.2006.03.20.08.58.45; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLNfP-0001IO-8E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:55:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLNfJ-0001IF-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:55:33 +0000 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLPGY-0000WN-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:38:24 +0000 Received: from jsm (unknown [209.121.18.234]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 51CD3B9C49 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:55:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001f01c64c3e$4d2fcf20$ea1279d1@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: References: <004c01c64bf1$84c655f0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:49:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.325,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Decca SG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64BFB.3E4C4C60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6729 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64BFB.3E4C4C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >two 807's (later models 6146's) Walter...I would be curious about the output circuit...is it a standard = pi-network or an LC circuit similar to, say, a 160m output circuit? Steve / VE7SL ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64BFB.3E4C4C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
>two=20 807's (later models 6146's)
 
Walter...I would be curious about the = output=20 circuit...is it a standard pi-network or an LC circuit similar to, say, = a 160m=20 output circuit?
 
Steve / = VE7SL
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C64BFB.3E4C4C60-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197631500130470492 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 73511584a1d8325b492f89bd8ec064d64dc17f92 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs47081wra; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.254.17 with SMTP id b17mr2992779ugi; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:00:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id u1si4356970uge.2006.03.12.00.00.01; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FILRG-0001BB-3Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:56:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FILRA-0001B2-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:56:24 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FIMRs-0000IP-1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:01:14 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DF4B47FF5 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:56:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000d01c645aa$7240bd00$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:56:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.011,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: TA the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C645B2.D3B8D9C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6740 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C645B2.D3B8D9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! Good Copy of WD2XGJ=20 WD2XES,XNS (only traces ) Nothing here NA , XKO ! the captures are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C645B2.D3B8D9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all on the list !
 
Good Copy of WD2XGJ
WD2XES,XNS (only traces )
Nothing here NA , XKO  = !
the=20 captures are on :
 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/
 
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C645B2.D3B8D9C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198643845893840706 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bcabf123ced59acd27a798bcd859a2719996071d Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs47811wrc; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.215.3 with SMTP id s3mr660076qbq; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:21:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si1759196qbe.2006.03.24.14.21.07; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FMucV-0002cs-DZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:18:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FMucU-0002cj-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:18:59 +0000 Received: from web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FMvjN-000530-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:30:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 26913 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2006 22:17:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uFcNwhnKc0SPe273sIBStcSJfIgRtfhx9eazsyoybEYHFAbcgb8T8ZOSpJJj/83eGQHFBQew2diBxW8QatTyEBZaLERdkAc53WfPpaLkliTxDV6opdJ+6Z1SrmbNJkN0nwxYpzlySb69hrfgseB5NrYuI1hJAm200sfae8TuwAc= ; Message-ID: <20060324221752.26911.qmail@web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:17:52 GMT Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:17:52 +0000 (GMT) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <3faca5ea.9d7f6094.81c6800@lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.282,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: majordomo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1558035811-1143238672=:25842" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6741 --0-1558035811-1143238672=:25842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pete, I called you and Rod last night (Thursday) about 1940 but no joy. Maybe you only waited a few minutes, like old Joe. I presume that Rod's TX is still U/S. I'll be on 136 over the weekend so give me a call. 73 Chris XIZ m0fmt@beeb.net wrote: majordomo --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos � NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. --0-1558035811-1143238672=:25842 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Pete,
 
I called you and Rod last night (Thursday) about 1940 but no joy.
Maybe you only waited a few minutes, like old Joe.
 
I presume that Rod's TX is still U/S.
I'll be on 136 over the weekend so give me a call.
 
73 Chris XIZ

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Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:49:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060309104914420.66C0E70000EB@mwinf1308.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603091149090175.008A1ECF@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:49:09 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.002,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6774 Sorry, I typed the wrong address. This was meant to go direct to Peter. John F/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 09/03/2006 at 11:40 John RABSON wrote: >Peter, > >Cave radio people have for some time been wondering about the origin of >the Galloping Horses effect. I believe the term was coined by >Jean-Jacques Fauchez, F6IDE, but he is now a Silent Key we cannot ask him. > >May we reprint your explanation as a Letter to the Editor in our next >issue, please? I would of course send you a copy of the text beforehand >for you to agree the contents. > >73, >John Rabson F/G3PAI >Commissioning Editor >Cave Radio & Electronics Group Journal > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 08/03/2006 at 09:45 Peter Martinez wrote: > >>>From G3PLX: >> >>It wasn't Rugby that went off yesterday but Lessay. As luck would have it >>I >>was trying to debug some LORAN receive software that morning, and I >>couldn't >>figure out why it wouldn't work. It seemed to work in the afternoon and I= >>couldn't figure that out either until the screenshot from Markus revealed= >>all! The moral must be - don't try to debug LF receive software on the >>first Tuesday of the month! >> >>Rugby transmits a regular group of 8 pulses at 14.85/sec., and on it's >own >>that would give a very regular buzz, although at a rather lower rate than >>a >>fluorescent light. When Lessay is on, it transmits both at 14.85/sec and >>13.11/sec and the 1.5Hz beat between these gives the galloping effect. >> >>With Lessay off, the galloping stops. At least this is true in the UK. >> >>73 >>Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 8f6f97cbd2d0793b4d6f8c2a4b8ffddec5058d52 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs3701wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 02:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.211.4 with SMTP id n4mr940687qbq; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:44:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si518567qbe.2006.03.09.02.44.11; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHIaO-0000IX-FR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:41:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHIaO-0000IO-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:41:36 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHK7R-0004Xt-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:20:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 29AB01C001D7 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:41:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-2-187.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.231.187]) by mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E45161C001C0; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:41:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060309104103935.E45161C001C0@mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:40:55 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6775 Peter, Cave radio people have for some time been wondering about the origin of the= Galloping Horses effect. I believe the term was coined by Jean-Jacques= Fauchez, F6IDE, but he is now a Silent Key we cannot ask him. May we reprint your explanation as a Letter to the Editor in our next= issue, please? I would of course send you a copy of the text beforehand= for you to agree the contents. 73, John Rabson F/G3PAI Commissioning Editor Cave Radio & Electronics Group Journal *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/03/2006 at 09:45 Peter Martinez wrote: >>From G3PLX: > >It wasn't Rugby that went off yesterday but Lessay. As luck would have it >I >was trying to debug some LORAN receive software that morning, and I >couldn't >figure out why it wouldn't work. It seemed to work in the afternoon and I >couldn't figure that out either until the screenshot from Markus revealed >all! The moral must be - don't try to debug LF receive software on the >first Tuesday of the month! > >Rugby transmits a regular group of 8 pulses at 14.85/sec., and on it's own= >that would give a very regular buzz, although at a rather lower rate than >a >fluorescent light. When Lessay is on, it transmits both at 14.85/sec and >13.11/sec and the 1.5Hz beat between these gives the galloping effect. > >With Lessay off, the galloping stops. At least this is true in the UK. > >73 >Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4a6a28f72f72a85c21be3fc904873a21abecc522 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs21051wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 02:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr113988ugh; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:39:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si565837ugf.2006.03.08.02.39.05; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGw1y-0002DK-9x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:36:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGw1x-0002DB-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:36:33 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGx0n-0007cR-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:39:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 9056 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 10:36:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.70.251 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 10:36:28 -0000 Message-ID: <00c501c6429c$284db330$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <001501c6421f$b8d31b20$f56c7ad5@w4o8m9> <001701c64296$817cb880$59737ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:36:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.000,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6776 >From G3PLX: At the moment (10:30) Lessay is transmitting with it's 9th pulse mostly off except that it's pulsing "RE" in morse. Rugby is transmitting with it's first two pulses mostly off, but they re-appear every 3.5 secs, so this definitely accounts for the 0.3Hz sidebands. Sylt and Soustons are transmitting 6 pulses only. This is the 6731 chain, which would seem to be saying 'Do not use'. The 7499 chain seems to be running normally. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 83cae1a51c4d437e2d711f0ca4418cf73706e85a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20728wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.155.14 with SMTP id h14mr285188qbo; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:59:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si198471qba.2006.03.08.01.59.41; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGvQB-0001zf-6w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:57:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGvQA-0001zW-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:57:30 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGwwm-00078D-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:35:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 99178 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 09:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.115.89?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.115.89 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 09:57:10 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.2.0/276]); Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:56:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c64296$817cb880$59737ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <001501c6421f$b8d31b20$f56c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:56:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.010,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6777 Dear LF Group, It appears the Lessay Loran went off at about 0805utc this morning - at the same time, the sidebands that G3YXM saw appeared on the Rugby signal, which has continued normally. They really are there - they can be heard as a slight "hiccup" in the rythm of the Loran pulses occuring about 16 times a minute. On the oscilloscope, the Rugby signal at the moment is 6 pulses, increasing to 8 pulses during the "hiccup". I think this is the "blink" signal which indicates that the particular Loran chain is off-line (see http://www.nels.org/nels/s_006_2.htm ). Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ce5a04be33baf29593ea3aeb9ecaad54eb8e2d34 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20633wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.200.5 with SMTP id c5mr255301qbq; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:49:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a5si169927qbd.2006.03.08.01.49.06; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGvEf-0001s0-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:45:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGvEe-0001rr-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:45:37 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGwDT-000706-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:48:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 66479 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2006 09:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.70.251 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2006 09:45:35 -0000 Message-ID: <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:45:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6778 >From G3PLX: It wasn't Rugby that went off yesterday but Lessay. As luck would have it I was trying to debug some LORAN receive software that morning, and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work. It seemed to work in the afternoon and I couldn't figure that out either until the screenshot from Markus revealed all! The moral must be - don't try to debug LF receive software on the first Tuesday of the month! Rugby transmits a regular group of 8 pulses at 14.85/sec., and on it's own that would give a very regular buzz, although at a rather lower rate than a fluorescent light. When Lessay is on, it transmits both at 14.85/sec and 13.11/sec and the 1.5Hz beat between these gives the galloping effect. With Lessay off, the galloping stops. At least this is true in the UK. 73 Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 10963fc9962caf787d30eb31ace2d06b113781a7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20048wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.203.19 with SMTP id a19mr161966qbg; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:47:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18si170309qbq.2006.03.08.00.47.17; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuIO-0001Xg-Eh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:45:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuIN-0001XX-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:45:24 +0000 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGvHB-0006hd-AO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:48:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5C9A01C000B7 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-2-215.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.231.215]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 88A2E1C00083 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:45:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060308084506559.88A2E1C00083@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:45:00 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.002,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6779 I forgot to add that, when the signal was at low level, the Galloping= Horses effect was absent. There was just a steady noise somewhat like an= unsuppressed fluorescent light. 73 John *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 07/03/2006 at 21:24 John RABSON wrote: >Loran was about 12dB down on its normal level here using a 12 turn loop >80 centimetres on a side. > >73 >John F/G3PAI (in Burgundy) > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 07/03/2006 at 19:24 Dave Pick wrote: > >>Hmm >> >>I can't tell whether Rugby went off and the AGC brought up some >>background noise but it could be true I suppose... >> >>Dave >> >>On 07/03/06, Hartmut Wolff wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> the message below received last night via navtex. Probably >>> some tests? >>> >>> 73 >>> Hartmut >>> >>> >>> ZCZC EH69 >>> NAVAREA ONE 068 >>> LORAN C. NORTHWEST EUROPE. STATION LESSAY. LESSAY CHAIN RATES 6731-X >>> AND 6731-Z AND SYLT CHAIN RATE 7499-X OFF AIR 0800 UTC TO 1200 UTC >>> DAILY 07 AND 08 MAR. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 081300 UTC MAR 06. >>> >>> >>> >>> > These sidebands, spaced at about 0.3Hz appeared suddenly on my Rugby >>> > line which falls in the US grabber window. >>> > It started with a glitch at about ten past 8 and went off about >>> > half-past 11 with an identical glitch on the carrier as you can see= in >>> > the grab (I hope). >>> > Were they testing the GPS enhancement mode or whatever? >>> >>> > Dave. >>> >>> > -- >>> > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: be58b1d3ab553c85c43946b806e0856ec5815220 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs20030wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.200.5 with SMTP id c5mr228561qbq; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:44:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si172520qba.2006.03.08.00.44.20; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuF7-0001ST-DY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:42:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGuF6-0001SK-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:42:00 +0000 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGvll-000613-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:20:04 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2FD351C0009B for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:41:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-2-215.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.231.215]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 74E6C1C000BD for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:41:35 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060308084135479.74E6C1C000BD@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603080941290720.00076FF2@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <001201c64224$9b8b6ea0$0300000a@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <001501c6421f$b8d31b20$f56c7ad5@w4o8m9> <001201c64224$9b8b6ea0$0300000a@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:41:29 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6780 But if the lights go out the results will be All Black. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/03/2006 at 09:20 Vernall wrote: >For rugby test schedules, contact Twickenham Stadium? > >73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7a701f193c908a37dac3c3a12594db098d96224e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs14023wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.232.7 with SMTP id e7mr79490ugh; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:00:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si179966ugc.2006.03.07.16.00.52; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGm49-0008Ou-TM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:58:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGm47-0008Ol-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:58:07 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGn2j-0003JW-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:00:46 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.2ed.263019b (2612) for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <2ed.263019b.313f7724@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:54:12 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.032,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1141775652" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6781 -------------------------------1141775652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/03/2006 20:21:20 GMT Standard Time, vernall@xtra.co.nz writes: For rugby test schedules, contact Twickenham Stadium? 73, Bob ZL2CA I drove past it this evening. 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In a message dated 07/03/2006 20:21:20 GMT Standard Time,=20 vernall@xtra.co.nz writes:
For=20 rugby test schedules, contact Twickenham Stadium?

73, Bob=20 ZL2CA
 
I drove past it this evening.  
 
No one was home
-------------------------------1141775652-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3e5c840d12d5ca625f0cf359d33a3955950cba54 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs11380wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.253.15 with SMTP id a15mr3497970qbi; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14si20090qbq.2006.03.07.12.57.15; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGjCK-0007mD-P1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:54:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGjCJ-0007m4-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:54:24 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGkAs-0002C5-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:56:59 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.1d5.4f154c3d (15876) for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-d16.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.132]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID73-3e04440df2f213; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:54:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:54:10 -0500 From: MarkusVester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40849FF3.3BF7D661.28FF0FBC@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 172.183.235.130 X-AOL-Language: german X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.190,BAYES_00=-2.599,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=-------408617bb3bf94e29408617bb3bf94e29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6782 ---------408617bb3bf94e29408617bb3bf94e29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Dave and LF, on 100 kHz, I did indeed see the Lessay outage, but nothing unusual on Rugby, or any of the other stations - see screenshot (vertical: 6:00 to 12:00 with 5 minute averaging, horizontal: 45 �s/pixel, colour ~ carrier phase). Got no idea what might have caused the additional sidebands. 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20060307202459583.8E89770000B6@mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:24:50 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.013,BAYES_00=-2.599,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.026 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6783 Loran was about 12dB down on its normal level here using a 12 turn loop 80= centimetres on a side. 73 John F/G3PAI (in Burgundy) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 07/03/2006 at 19:24 Dave Pick wrote: >Hmm > >I can't tell whether Rugby went off and the AGC brought up some >background noise but it could be true I suppose... > >Dave > >On 07/03/06, Hartmut Wolff wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> the message below received last night via navtex. Probably >> some tests? >> >> 73 >> Hartmut >> >> >> ZCZC EH69 >> NAVAREA ONE 068 >> LORAN C. NORTHWEST EUROPE. STATION LESSAY. LESSAY CHAIN RATES 6731-X >> AND 6731-Z AND SYLT CHAIN RATE 7499-X OFF AIR 0800 UTC TO 1200 UTC >> DAILY 07 AND 08 MAR. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 081300 UTC MAR 06. >> >> >> >> > These sidebands, spaced at about 0.3Hz appeared suddenly on my Rugby >> > line which falls in the US grabber window. >> > It started with a glitch at about ten past 8 and went off about >> > half-past 11 with an identical glitch on the carrier as you can see in >> > the grab (I hope). >> > Were they testing the GPS enhancement mode or whatever? >> >> > Dave. >> >> > -- >> > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >> >> >> > > >-- >G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4e106903fd847d1ab0552b2b5600f8f551b080d9 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10899wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.220.17 with SMTP id s17mr502961qbg; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:23:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si15947qbq.2006.03.07.12.23.15; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGifs-0007Wk-EG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:20:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGifs-0007Wb-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:20:52 +0000 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGkCI-0005qL-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:58:43 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.192]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20060307202026.PIBN8506.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:20:26 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.95.229]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060307202026.OQHU1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:20:26 +1300 Message-ID: <001201c64224$9b8b6ea0$0300000a@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <001501c6421f$b8d31b20$f56c7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:20:37 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.008,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6784 For rugby test schedules, contact Twickenham Stadium? 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e3b4cc7f8809c00568755bd7142283dadb7c67eb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs10458wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 11:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.193.17 with SMTP id v17mr3457876qbp; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:49:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o32si2617qbe.2006.03.07.11.48.59; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGi9F-0007MH-Pz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:47:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGi9F-0007M8-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:47:09 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGjfg-0005cq-F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:25:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 39176 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2006 19:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.108.245?) 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6785 Dear Dave, LF Group, Perhaps they are continuing with their "first Tuesday in the month" maintenance periods that we used to look forward to on 73kHz? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Pick To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Hmm I can't tell whether Rugby went off and the AGC brought up some background noise but it could be true I suppose... Dave On 07/03/06, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Hi Dave, > the message below received last night via navtex. Probably > some tests? > > 73 > Hartmut > > > ZCZC EH69 > NAVAREA ONE 068 > LORAN C. NORTHWEST EUROPE. STATION LESSAY. LESSAY CHAIN RATES 6731-X > AND 6731-Z AND SYLT CHAIN RATE 7499-X OFF AIR 0800 UTC TO 1200 UTC > DAILY 07 AND 08 MAR. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 081300 UTC MAR 06. 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> To: Dave Pick In-Reply-To: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EkK89eZboe4c-CS7RpZs8nAMhZByFTAvoSKN+eQQerFBgdhgRRrrYM X-TOI-MSGID: 96d8f3d6-af5b-42d3-ab69-f0d2c92ace8e X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=0.061,BAYES_00=-2.599,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.026 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6786 Hi Dave, the message below received last night via navtex. Probably some tests? 73 Hartmut ZCZC EH69 NAVAREA ONE 068 LORAN C. NORTHWEST EUROPE. STATION LESSAY. LESSAY CHAIN RATES 6731-X AND 6731-Z AND SYLT CHAIN RATE 7499-X OFF AIR 0800 UTC TO 1200 UTC DAILY 07 AND 08 MAR. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 081300 UTC MAR 06. > These sidebands, spaced at about 0.3Hz appeared suddenly on my Rugby > line which falls in the US grabber window. > It started with a glitch at about ten past 8 and went off about > half-past 11 with an identical glitch on the carrier as you can see in > the grab (I hope). > Were they testing the GPS enhancement mode or whatever? > Dave. > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197219010237966330 X-Gmail-Labels: Sent,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 057d7ddb9282ef23d83dec38eef197647b59d802 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs9461wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.2 with SMTP id h2mr3457610qbg; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:44:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si1400473qbe.2006.03.07.10.43.25; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGh61-0006yH-QO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:39:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGh61-0006y8-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:39:45 +0000 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGi4W-0001Sn-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:42:17 +0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so1469806wra for ; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=aDGRCaPKS4xTgqzUGeP5HAMZdznVc81vfie93mevM7vPFDTHcYJyE4WGe+PeYJ3kpDHryf5vBpd8eWCtTZLQ2O/nBGKJiwoXiG9A8fndDv13HprwZAjuya0fouNWSIHi7HR8ZnxqS8ioEcU0S53X/341ZIbSKeisZ0AiydN4jro= Received: by 10.54.72.13 with SMTP id u13mr912185wra; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.71.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:38:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:38:38 +0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.527,BAYES_00=-2.599,RCVD_BY_IP=0.067 Subject: LF: Rugby test? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4236_16787266.1141756718970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6787 ------=_Part_4236_16787266.1141756718970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline These sidebands, spaced at about 0.3Hz appeared suddenly on my Rugby line which falls in the US grabber window. It started with a glitch at about ten past 8 and went off about half-past 11 with an identical glitch on the carrier as you can see in the grab (I hope). Were they testing the GPS enhancement mode or whatever? 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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEqi-00024d-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEqi-00024U-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:06:28 +0000 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJFse-0002JR-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:12:33 +0000 Received: from [82.111.114.189] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FJEpS-000L2i-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:05:10 +0000 Message-ID: <44171957.6020609@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:28:23 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <001d01c64796$015ee2e0$2102000a@ibm> In-Reply-To: <001d01c64796$015ee2e0$2102000a@ibm> X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.935 Subject: Re: LF: what about LX on 136kHz? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6795 Hello Dick, Had a 2x 136kHz CW QSO with Jules, LX1PD 19July 1998. He was using an amazing PA which comprised 16 PL36 TV scan tubes in parallel! Peter, G3LDO Dick wrote: >Hello , > >Does anyone knows if it is allowed for foreign hams to operate on 136kHz >from Luxembourg, >as LX/..........?? > >73 > >Dick, PA4VHF > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197853262009096631 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fc6bec3e99a70e046a055c84c7d3dec60a9f2fb6 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs23841wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.74.12 with SMTP id b12mr952669qbl; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si1923064qba.2006.03.14.10.50.41; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEZw-0001ul-Am for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:49:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEZv-0001ua-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:49:07 +0000 Received: from rks33.urz.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.163] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJFbp-0002E0-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:55:12 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1FJEZl-0007Uh-Dt; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:48:57 +0100 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rks33 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28256-11 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:48:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from [141.30.60.75] (helo=relict.urz.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1FJEZg-0007Ti-SR; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:48:57 +0100 Received: by relict.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/06Dec99-1150AM) id TAA0000007708; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:48:51 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <20060314194851.A7134@relict.urz.tu-dresden.de> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:48:51 +0100 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <001d01c64796$015ee2e0$2102000a@ibm> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <001d01c64796$015ee2e0$2102000a@ibm>; from Dick on Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:34:04PM +0100 X-Beer: Jever X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on rks33 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.300 Subject: Re: LF: what about LX on 136kHz? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6796 On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 07:34:04PM +0100, Dick wrote: > Does anyone knows if it is allowed for foreign hams to operate on 136kHz > from Luxembourg, > as LX/..........?? Yes, you can operate under the CEPT agreement from there, with 1W ERP. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ Online log: http://dl0tud.tu-dresden.de/~dj1yfk/log.html From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197853262009096631 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 82775f2139b360e2ed87e07285d4da43f1641e9b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs23772wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.224.1 with SMTP id b1mr3207193qbr; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si3386487qbq.2006.03.14.10.44.49; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJEU0-0001id-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:43:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJETz-0001iU-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:42:59 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJFVv-0002AS-Em for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:49:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 23285 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2006 18:42:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.21]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Mar 2006 18:42:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c64796$015ee2e0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:34:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.581,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: what about LX on 136kHz? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6797 Hello , Does anyone knows if it is allowed for foreign hams to operate on 136kHz from Luxembourg, as LX/..........?? 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d0cde84571eb345c06fad21bd46b3319d0607d28 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs76422wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.6 with SMTP id c6mr1772091ugi; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:11:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k2si3663360ugf.2006.03.06.11.11.50; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGL45-0002qJ-7B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:08:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGL44-0002qA-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:08:16 +0000 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep13-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGMa7-0001lb-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:45:44 +0000 Received: from MARLEEN ([24.132.130.26]) by amsfep13-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060306190408.FOUC10009.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:04:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c64150$bfed8000$1a828418@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: References: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> <00e701c6414f$8b8c5710$61ec4454@MLB> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:04:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.024,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64159.219A1A40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6812 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64159.219A1A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good luck Martin , Hope to hear your results , 73, William Oorschot PA0WFO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Martin Evans." To: Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? >=20 > I am using a rather old Kenwood TS940 with Dave,s pre- amp which = performs=20 > very well with a built in 270 Hz crystal-filter combined with the = built in=20 > Audio Peak Filter which reduces a lot of noise .The S-meter = calibration will=20 > be 50 microvolts for S9 if you put an adjustable attenuator ( a simple = > potmeter will do ) between the pre-amp and the receiver . >=20 > 73,William PA0WFO >=20 > ################################### >=20 > Thanks for this, William. >=20 > Yes, this is what I am going to try - quick and easy. >=20 > Next to get the antenna resonated properly! >=20 > 73s >=20 > Martin >=20 > GW3UCJ. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64159.219A1A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good luck Martin ,
Hope to = hear your results=20 ,
73, William = Oorschot=20 PA0WFO
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Evans." <books@mollies.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:55 = PM
Subject: Re: LF: What's the best=20 receiver?

>
> I am using a rather old Kenwood TS940 with Dave,s = pre- amp=20 which performs
> very well with a built in 270 Hz crystal-filter = combined=20 with the built in
> Audio Peak Filter which reduces a lot of = noise .The=20 S-meter calibration will
> be 50 microvolts for S9 if you put an=20 adjustable attenuator ( a simple
> potmeter will do )  = between the=20 pre-amp and the receiver .
>
> 73,William PA0WFO
> =
>=20 ###################################
>
> Thanks for this,=20 William.
>
> Yes, this is what I am going to try - quick = and=20 easy.
>
> Next to get the antenna resonated = properly!
>=20
> 73s
>
> Martin
>
> GW3UCJ.
> =
>=20
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C64159.219A1A40-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c50898895dc7a41380a3cff97c4dc091cdc328c2 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs76272wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.2 with SMTP id r2mr3005380ugh; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si5712187uge.2006.03.06.10.58.19; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGKs8-0002jS-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:55:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGKs7-0002jJ-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:55:55 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGMOA-0001fy-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:33:23 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3006.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6EF821C0008F for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:55:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from MLB (user-3169.lns2-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.68.236.97]) by mwinf3006.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3B3A01C00083 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:55:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060306185534242.3B3A01C00083@mwinf3006.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <00e701c6414f$8b8c5710$61ec4454@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:55:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6813 I am using a rather old Kenwood TS940 with Dave,s pre- amp which performs very well with a built in 270 Hz crystal-filter combined with the built in Audio Peak Filter which reduces a lot of noise .The S-meter calibration will be 50 microvolts for S9 if you put an adjustable attenuator ( a simple potmeter will do ) between the pre-amp and the receiver . 73,William PA0WFO ################################### Thanks for this, William. Yes, this is what I am going to try - quick and easy. Next to get the antenna resonated properly! 73s Martin GW3UCJ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d82d4e02996c432b457d56dcffc375d72fcf2f4b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs61980wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr2756617ugg; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:38:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id s1si4687114uge.2006.03.05.08.38.33; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFwCl-0007Nw-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:35:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFwCk-0007Nn-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:35:34 +0000 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.15] helo=amsfep18-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFxiP-0006r8-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:12:36 +0000 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.66.2]) by amsfep18-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060305163128.BRVF29873.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:31:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01c64072$4060e860$02423850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:31:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6407A.A1FF2AC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6814 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6407A.A1FF2AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Martin , I am using a rather old Kenwood TS940 with Dave,s pre- amp which = performs very well with a built in 270 Hz crystal-filter combined with = the built in Audio Peak Filter which reduces a lot of noise .The S-meter = calibration will be 50 microvolts for S9 if you put an adjustable = attenuator ( a simple potmeter will do ) between the pre-amp and the = receiver . I think this goes for a lot of other tranceivers as well like the TS430 = and TS440 with CW filters built in and outside Audio Peak Filters . I = also tried the G0MRF preamp in front of a Yaesu FT847 but the 847 is so = deaf on 137Khz. that the gain of the pre-amp is insufficient which is a = pity as the receiver of the 847 is doing a fair job with the built in = 500Hz Mech. filter in combination with the adjustable bandwith control = in the LF DSP on the HF bands . 73,William PA0WFO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: RE: LF: What's the best receiver ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6407A.A1FF2AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Martin ,
I am using = a rather old=20 Kenwood TS940 with Dave,s pre- amp which performs very well with a built = in 270=20 Hz crystal-filter combined with the built in Audio Peak Filter which = reduces a=20 lot of noise .The S-meter calibration will be 50 microvolts for S9 if = you put an=20 adjustable attenuator ( a simple potmeter will do )  between the = pre-amp=20 and the receiver .
I think = this goes for a=20 lot of other tranceivers as well like the TS430 and TS440 with CW = filters built=20 in and outside Audio Peak Filters . I also tried the G0MRF preamp = in front=20 of a Yaesu FT847 but the 847 is so deaf on 137Khz. that the gain of the = pre-amp=20 is insufficient which is a pity as the receiver of the 847 is doing a = fair job=20 with the built in 500Hz Mech. filter in combination with the adjustable = bandwith=20 control in the LF DSP  on the HF bands .
73,William=20 PA0WFO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:53 = PM
Subject: RE: LF: What's the best=20 receiver
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C6407A.A1FF2AC0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 04497a3715ac5d2a88c4c6ba42a7345bde7fb664 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs61340wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 07:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.24.19 with SMTP id b19mr2402908ugj; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:16:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j1si922550ugf.2006.03.05.07.16.35; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFuvq-00076M-Lw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:14:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFuvq-00076D-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:14:02 +0000 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFwRQ-0005wU-9V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:51:02 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id l.147.57a1df42 (1320) for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:13:33 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <147.57a1df42.313c5a1d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:13:33 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,AWL=-0.028,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_50_60=0.087,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.039,NO_REAL_NAME=0.007 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1141571613" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6815 -------------------------------1141571613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hello MArtin. =20 Yes, I'm listening. =20 I've just built 6 of the pre-amps this weekend. Two are packed to go to DL= =20 and one to Oaklahoma. =20 They are aligned to 136.5 and need a 12 - 14V supply. It's an assembled=20 and tested PCB. Cost is =A310. =20 Details are at: _http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/preamp.htm_=20 (http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/preamp.htm)=20 =20 The page includes a circuit in case you fancy building one yourself. My address is on the web site or at _www.qrz.com_ (http://www.qrz.com)=20 =20 Hope that helps =20 =20 Regards =20 David G0MRF =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 In a message dated 05/03/2006 11:43:18 GMT Standard Time, =20 books@mollies.freeserve.co.uk writes: Ah, now, that's more in my line, Dave. I've made a note of these three being OK - oddly enough, someone offered me= =20 a TS140 a while ago. I didn't know about David's preamps....David, are you listening? How do I=20 get hold of one of your preamps? Thanks Dave. Martin GW3UCJ. =20 -------------------------------1141571613 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello MArtin.
 
Yes, I'm listening.
 
I've just built 6 of the pre-amps this weekend.  Two are packed to= go=20 to DL and one to Oaklahoma.
 
They are aligned to 136.5 and need a 12 - 14V supply.  =20= It's=20 an assembled and tested PCB.  Cost is =A310.
 
Details are at:  http://www.g0mrf.freese= rve.co.uk/preamp.htm
 
The page includes a circuit in case you fancy building one yourself.
My address is on the web site or at www.qrz.com
 
Hope that helps
 
 
Regards
 
David   G0MRF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 05/03/2006 11:43:18 GMT Standard Time,=20 books@mollies.freeserve.co.uk writes:
Ah, now,=20 that's more in my line, Dave.

I've made a note of these three being= OK=20 - oddly enough, someone offered me
a TS140 a while ago.

I didn'= t=20 know about David's preamps....David, are you listening? How do I
get h= old=20 of one of your preamps?

Thanks Dave.

Martin

GW3UCJ.=20
 
-------------------------------1141571613-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2fdc98a7a93cc4e3392b654612a7bda2b7b7aef Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59945wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr2645020ugg; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:54:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j2si4511692ugf.2006.03.05.03.54.13; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrmz-0006YX-Aj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:52:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrmy-0006YO-UI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:52:40 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFskM-0006nC-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:54:04 +0000 Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.167.85]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2006 11:52:33 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AY8CAMJdCkSHZSw Received: from 88-106-167-85.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.167.85]:3346 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FFrjI-000LSz-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:48:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:53:29 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <014601c64049$e478f380$90a24054@MLB> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.051,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: RE: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6816 Martin, This link to Dave's web site. http://www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/ 73, Gary. -----Original Message----- I didn't know about David's preamps....David, are you listening? How do I get hold of one of your preamps? Thanks Dave. Martin GW3UCJ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9ce56785d3503120684d222906589ce0ef397119 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59894wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.2 with SMTP id r2mr2220655ugh; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:44:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k1si3986002ugf.2006.03.05.03.44.16; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrdT-0006MK-TZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:42:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFrdT-0006MB-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:42:51 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFsar-0006jt-TM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:44:14 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3101.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 332032C0008F for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:42:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from MLB (user-656.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.64.162.144]) by mwinf3101.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DC8502C00089 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:42:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305114234903.DC8502C00089@mwinf3101.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <014601c64049$e478f380$90a24054@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <013701c64044$498981a0$90a24054@MLB> <8bf118410603050328t19db9ec5n@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:42:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6817 OK well my penny-worth is to get an elderly TS440, 450 (and I believe the 140 is OK too but I don't know it) Sensitivity isn't the only consideration you need excellent stability too which rules out radios such as my old Icom 735 which drifts around all over the place! Why not just get a pre-amp from David G0MRF and stick it in front of the 950 which is a fine radio apart from its LF insensitivity? Good luck Dave. Ah, now, that's more in my line, Dave. I've made a note of these three being OK - oddly enough, someone offered me a TS140 a while ago. I didn't know about David's preamps....David, are you listening? How do I get hold of one of your preamps? Thanks Dave. Martin GW3UCJ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3c5969fdb83a85d1c1ad70e6d39fd602fe4c8613 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59625wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.7 with SMTP id n7mr821837ugi; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:04:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si1427580ugc.2006.03.05.03.04.18; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFr0n-00067I-Gj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFr0n-000679-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:02:53 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFsWH-0004FN-U0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:39:49 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B74084800088 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:02:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from MLB (user-656.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.64.162.144]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 7EE2A4800082 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:02:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305110227519.7EE2A4800082@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <013701c64044$498981a0$90a24054@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:02:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6818 > How about doing Alberto's mod to the 950 which bring it up to 850 > performance? > > http://www.qsl.net/i2phd/TS950/change.html > > Dave. > > Hello Dave - yes, I know about Alberto's mod - very impressive, and I > would dearly like to carry it out. > > Two things stop me - firstly, my eyesight, which has been poor since > childhood, is getting worse, and I'm afraid of making a mess of it. > > Secondly, I don't know where to get the transformer! > > Pathetic or what? > > To be honest, my dodgy eyesight has shaken my confidence in being able to > do anything but the crudest soldering job, and I would be much happier to > just buy a box and plug it in. > > Martin > > GW3UCJ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197004973006051837 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dfbaa3c6a1ac884cf1800c793876430f0f0fff9f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs59212wra; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.245.7 with SMTP id s7mr2278607ugh; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30si1386738ugc.2006.03.05.02.01.39; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FFq1y-0005kn-2g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:00:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FFq1x-0005ke-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:00:01 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FFqzH-0005ny-KN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:01:22 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4BA6240008C for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:59:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from MLB (user-656.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.64.162.144]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8DEA62400085 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:59:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060305095952581.8DEA62400085@mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <010101c6403b$8b692610$90a24054@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:59:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: What's the best receiver? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6819 Good morning all. I'm Martin, GW3UCJ, located in the Swansea Valley in South West Wales. It's a very poor radio location, surrounded by hills. I've been interested in 136 for several years, listened on and off as workload permits, but had very little time to get properly involved. I've been subscribed to this newsgroup for a while. I have a Kenwood TS950 and have also used a couple of W & G SLMs - I currently have a SPM-14. I also had a Datong converter for a while. I know that the 950 is recognised as being stone deaf on 136 - I've only ever heard - or should I say seen - a few UK stations, nothing more - and I don't like using the selective level meters. Bearing in mind that price is important, what would you suggest for a good receiver on 136? I know that the TS850 is good, but that's too expensive at the moment. Are such things as the Lowe HF125/150/225 etc any good? Or the AOR 7030? Your comments will be much appreciated. Regards, Martin Evans email: info@molliesloft.com Mollie's Loft Books 31 Cilmaengwyn Pontardawe Swansea Tel UK: 01792 863 556 SA8 4QL From US: 011 44 1792 863 556 UK Website: www.molliesloft.com Specialising in Welsh interest, the Sciences & Technology. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198448630824642786 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: dc14a8d2e03891bae5ca998c5cf218660cc78988 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs54wrc; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.224.12 with SMTP id b12mr517533qbr; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:27:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si1204209qbc.2006.03.21.00.27.57; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FLcB4-0003TM-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:25:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FLcB3-0003TD-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:25:17 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FLdmX-0005Fk-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:08:23 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (poitiers-1-62-147-88-167.dial.proxad.net [62.147.88.167]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id D4510275CD for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:24:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000d01c64cc0$f0055170$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:24:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.263,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T/A the last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C64CC9.5103D160" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6831 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C64CC9.5103D160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all on the list ! The last night , good conditions ! I copy WD2XGJ , WD2XNS ( traces ) with a strong static activity=20 Nothing here of XKO and NA=20 the captures of the night are on :=20 http://jpmere.online.fr/LF/ 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C64CC9.5103D160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all on the list !
 
The last night , good=20 conditions !
I copy WD2XGJ , WD2XNS ( traces = )
with a strong static activity =
Nothing here of   =  XKO and=20 NA 
the=20 captures of the night are on :
73 qro Jean-Pierre  = f1afj  =20 JN06ht
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C64CC9.5103D160-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197156293793705585 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5cae6020729c936defab978c6953fec9e3fa5f79 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs1828wra; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.76.9 with SMTP id y9mr1778645qba; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:06:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14si1428943qba.2006.03.06.18.06.48; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGRZ4-0004Nd-AC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:04:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGRZ3-0004NU-OW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:04:41 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGSXC-0003tg-8Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:06:53 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter07.comcast.net ([204.127.197.117]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060307020429m12001a1dbe>; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 02:04:29 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter07.comcast.net; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:04:28 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: lowfer@lwca.org (LWCA LF Reflector) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:04:28 +0000 Message-Id: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.200,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Next Sunspot cycle 30-50% Stronger X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6840 Hello the list... Researchers at the National Center for Atmospheric Research predict that the next sunspot cycle will be 30-50% stronger than the one just passed. The cycle is forescast to start 6-12 months later than normal, starting in late 2007 or early 2008. The peak is forecast to be in 2012. The forecast is based on a plasma model of the sun's interior. For more info: http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/sunspot.shtml Anyone care to speculate on the LF effects? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197534859636506715 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 51fcd4e2634c659bb4ac2fda47542eb3770d5997 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs33909wra; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.234.10 with SMTP id l10mr117670qbr; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f17si608664qba.2006.03.10.22.23.57; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHxSn-00063M-7m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:20:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHxSm-00063D-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:20:28 +0000 Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHz0W-0003Zf-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:59:39 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 381441C001E5 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:19:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-173.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-173.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.173]) by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7DBC71C001E4 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:19:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060311061957515.7DBC71C001E4@mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:18:53 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.014,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: TA = 0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6857 Last night received only a "J" of XGJ begining at about 0110 UTC, then traces till 0230. That's all... Very high level of statics 0330 ==> 0500 UTC. Best 73 to all ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197360374027748489 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c8402e373b6e2bf67e78826ee08ac3d679d35749 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs7788wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.122.5 with SMTP id z5mr1205530qbm; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si929830qba.2006.03.09.08.48.01; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHOEP-0001yY-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:43:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHOEO-0001yP-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:43:17 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHPDq-0001na-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:46:47 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FHOEN-0006ky-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:43:15 +0100 Received: from p54868f81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.143.129] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #1) id 1FHOEM-0000f8-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <44105B21.6000308@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:43:13 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> <000701c642de$46eabe40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> <007201c64350$8a764810$0400a8c0@AUG2004> In-Reply-To: <007201c64350$8a764810$0400a8c0@AUG2004> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.142,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Real QRP tests continued Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6863 Walter Blanchard schrieb: > Andy, > > Let me know the freq and I'll see if plain old ornery Speclab will do > the business. > > Walter G3JKV. > > > > Hi Walter, Let me suggest to use the "sampling rate calibration" (continuously running) though it's a bit complicated to set up. Of course you will need a reference signal in the audio range (15.625 kHz, 19.0000 kHz, or maybe some GPS-harmonic) to tame the drifting sampling rate. I got some ideas from Peter 'PLX recently how the sampling-rate calibration could be improved and simplified, but haven't found the time to implement it in SL yet. More on that (hopefully) soon, before activity goes down again ;-) Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197360374027748489 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e139f0999da9016c0606231b6c8c5db9ef4124bd Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs2427wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.212.4 with SMTP id o4mr862741qbq; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:10:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si99643qba.2006.03.09.00.10.34; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHGBf-00086c-Dx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:07:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHGBf-00086T-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:07:55 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHHAw-0006xZ-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:11:14 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (cpc1-leat1-6-0-cust60.hers.cable.ntl.com [81.96.11.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29892qu010474 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:09:02 GMT Message-ID: <007201c64350$8a764810$0400a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> <000701c642de$46eabe40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:07:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.324,BAYES_20=-1.951 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Real QRP tests continued Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6864 Andy, Let me know the freq and I'll see if plain old ornery Speclab will do the business. Walter G3JKV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197378343004361663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 15162231ed4baaebf8925339104a5d106b26f971 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs9174wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.5 with SMTP id d5mr1227606qbf; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:24:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17si979200qba.2006.03.09.10.24.00; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHPl0-0002PR-Bx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:21:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHPkz-0002PI-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:21:01 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHRI8-0000BU-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:59:38 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060309182036m1400ggjkre>; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:20:37 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c643a8$88385e00$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001901c64377$70e590a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <419871128.20060309164702@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:37:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=ham,AWL=0.231,BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 MAR 06 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6437E.9ED2E740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6866 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6437E.9ED2E740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hartmut Okay...you win...there was a brief transmission at 2330 while making a = quick antenna measurement! Didn't think anyone would notice but I should = have known better! Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hartmut Wolff=20 To: Jay Rusgrove=20 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 MAR 06 > WD2XNS started transmissions at 0300Z. Jay, for sure? I have traces of the first part on a "X" about 23:30 and copied the signal after 03:00 on 137.781. Other signals copied: NA, XGJ and XKO(wobbled). Captures 23:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6437E.9ED2E740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hartmut
 
Okay...you win...there was a brief = transmission at=20 2330 while making a quick antenna measurement! Didn't think anyone would = notice=20 but I should have known better!
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hartmut=20 Wolff
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 = 10:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 MAR = 06

> WD2XNS started transmissions at = 0300Z.

Jay,
for=20 sure? I have traces of the first part on a "X" about 23:30 = and
copied the=20 signal after 03:00 on 137.781.

Other signals copied: NA, XGJ = and=20 XKO(wobbled).
Captures 23:00-07:00 can be seen = here:

 http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestL= F.htm


73
Hartmut

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6437E.9ED2E740-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197378343004361663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1c9b560a1c63e4e06146e177ed7baa2adb906cda Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs7157wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.116.14 with SMTP id t14mr362957qbm; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:53:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si901185qba.2006.03.09.07.53.22; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHNN9-0001hB-Ej for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:48:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHNN8-0001h2-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:48:14 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHOMY-00018d-3k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:51:44 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FHNM7-0005Go-02; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:47:11 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TJycJsZHZem9F3LlJnX6U7OGRY74H4nXacZAJwSc0FZw--8WmGfuof@[84.133.111.171]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FHNM0-2JY4w40; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:47:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:47:02 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <419871128.20060309164702@t-online.de> To: Jay Rusgrove In-Reply-To: <001901c64377$70e590a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001901c64377$70e590a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TJycJsZHZem9F3LlJnX6U7OGRY74H4nXacZAJwSc0FZw--8WmGfuof X-TOI-MSGID: f38c0cad-45c0-4f92-8012-825f119bce8a X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.227,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 MAR 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6867 > WD2XNS started transmissions at 0300Z. Jay, for sure? I have traces of the first part on a "X" about 23:30 and copied the signal after 03:00 on 137.781. Other signals copied: NA, XGJ and XKO(wobbled). Captures 23:00-07:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197378343004361663 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: ddb77f1c6acfc43be020c102e77c232658008b76 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs5131wra; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 04:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.111.7 with SMTP id o7mr1287107pym; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:56:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i70si1366996pye.2006.03.09.04.56.10; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FHKXh-0000y9-BY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:46:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FHKXg-0000y0-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:46:56 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FHLX2-0000RC-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:50:22 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060309124610m1400gin93e>; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:46:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c64377$70e590a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <8bf118410603071038x69f0b6b2h@mail.gmail.com> <1319435101.20060307194818@t-online.de> <8bf118410603071124o660d5be7u@mail.gmail.com> <200603072124500021.0CA05364@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <200603080945000253.000AA657@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <00b401c64295$0c575c50$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <200603091140550025.00829489@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <028f01c6436b$6d607f00$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:46:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.739,BAYES_20=-1.951,HTML_80_90=0.146,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=3.036,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.665 Subject: LF: TA 9 MAR 06 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6434D.87A1ABA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6868 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6434D.87A1ABA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C6434D.87A1ABA0" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C6434D.87A1ABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a glimpse of WX before static from midwest Tstorms set in... WD2XNS started transmissions at 0300Z. Jay, W1VD ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C6434D.87A1ABA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a glimpse of WX before static from = midwest=20 Tstorms set in...
 
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WD2XNS started transmissions at = 0300Z.
 
Jay, W1VD
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<001301c64b77$ffba03d0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <000401c64b6e$33e2b8a0$3bcdfc3e@your4105e587b6> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:10:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.194 Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6872 Hello Mal, I have been testing a tuneable loop antenna against my mini-whip and did not find any difference in receiving weak daytime signals in the 270 - 430 kHz range. At home I have been on and off comparing DX performance of a single winding active loop and the mini-whip. This requires absence of local noisem, as at my location the loop is much more prone to local noise pick up than the mini-whip. When a station could be heard on one antenna, it was audible as well on the other. I did not come across a single situation where this did not hold. Just like Jim, I have also used a phasing system with the above mentioned active loop and a mini-whip. I could establish a reduction in received band noise in the order of 3 dB compared to the mini-whip alone. This is caused by the change from omni-directional to a heart shaped antenna pattern and hence a lower level of received band noise. The best results in regard to low noise, was an EWE. I might set it up again and test it on some T/A signals. Though A/B comparisons are obvious, I have intentionally descarded these with my mini-whip design. It has been fun to watch the performance over time. Just stick to it and see what happens in the long run. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197939588667306585 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: fad07885f07e902f5c938ffc1609d4fc9eb90273 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs2481wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.210.8 with SMTP id m8mr462862qbq; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15si1684801qba.2006.03.15.09.36.54; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJZsw-0006Sv-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:34:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJZsw-0006Sm-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:34:10 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJavI-0007x9-Ez for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:40:43 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter08.comcast.net ([204.127.197.118]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060315173359m11001o5ste>; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:33:59 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter08.comcast.net; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:33:59 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (rsgb lf reflector) Cc: wolff.h@t-online.de (Hartmut Wolff), roelof@ndb.demon.nl (Roelof Bakker) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:33:59 +0000 Message-Id: <031520061733.2744.44185006000C13B700000AB822007507840B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.792,MISSING_SUBJECT=1.57 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6881 Hi Hartmut and Roelof, Thank you very much for the reports and captures. WD2XGJ was QRT at 04:50 UTC. I will try to keep it on longer to take advantage of the post sunrise conditions. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197263651713302209 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5f3cc67f0cce8f1e358a52c02a3ee18476c1c6eb Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs18981wra; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.204.19 with SMTP id g19mr189059qbq; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:33:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16si119375qbe.2006.03.07.22.33.13; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FGsBV-0000w8-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:30:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FGsBU-0000vz-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:30:08 +0000 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FGtAF-0005nL-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:32:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0401.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3F02E1C002E6 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:30:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-245.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-245.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.245]) by mwinf0401.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807961C002E7 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:30:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060308063001526.807961C002E7@mwinf0401.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:29:00 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb lf reflector In-Reply-To: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <030720060204.5338.440CEA2B000D79F3000014DA22007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.085,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: XGJ and TA last night Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6890 XGJ : 0230 ==> 0300 UTC, but strong this short time ; NA : 0305 ==> 0445 UTC : two beautiful and strong NA strings, only traces before. Best 73 Warren, Joe, and all on the reflector ! F5YG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198022377266601241 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c23baf9fc30cc1048794d32024e75922e7e15be4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs20616wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.100.4 with SMTP id c4mr1284007qbm; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:52:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16si893500qba.2006.03.16.16.52.42; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FK38Z-0007Mu-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:48:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FK38Z-0007Ml-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:48:15 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FK4iP-0002oy-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:29:40 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter09.comcast.net ([204.127.197.119]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060317004701m1400sro7se>; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:47:12 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter09.comcast.net; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:47:00 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Hartmut Wolff Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:47:00 +0000 Message-Id: <031720060047.16174.441A0704000AD26A00003F2E22007614380B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.999 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Mar, 15/16 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6893 Hi Hartmut, Despite my best intentions I was unable to run the beacon all night due to heating of the transformer on the loop ATU. I have obtained some new transformer cores so maybe that problem will go away. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Copied XGJ, XKO and XNS. Again post sunrise reception until 07:30 of > XNS. > Captures 00:00-07:30 can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm > > > 73 > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198022377266601241 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 157a978962ff3b0ac59815e1ff24bff433d3d236 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs10732wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.233.14 with SMTP id k14mr321710qbr; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:32:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13si439124qba.2006.03.16.07.32.49; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJuP3-0003Ph-JU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:28:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJuP3-0003PY-8f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:28:41 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJvyl-0006Ou-9I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:09:57 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FJuOk-0007cl-03; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:28:22 +0100 Received: from HW1 (ZkcC8EZQ8eez-HguHSMT8jRTkGeQvySCSnc2mq496qArdXzti9g8cP@[84.133.111.126]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FJuOf-0Ii9L60; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:28:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:26:51 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7110077995.20060316162651@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ZkcC8EZQ8eez-HguHSMT8jRTkGeQvySCSnc2mq496qArdXzti9g8cP X-TOI-MSGID: c93a6694-54ec-4f60-aa1f-490985079155 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.204 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 15/16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6894 Copied XGJ, XKO and XNS. Again post sunrise reception until 07:30 of XNS. Captures 00:00-07:30 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197553317211708909 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 61721568e7426d1e078a90a0d0f6e95aaac2a0d5 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs36167wra; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.225.14 with SMTP id c14mr2048018qbr; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:17:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c5si1160837qbc.2006.03.11.03.17.20; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FI23n-0006an-Aa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:14:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FI23m-0006ae-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:14:58 +0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FI345-0001Lk-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:19:23 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FI22l-00069f-0D; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:13:55 +0100 Received: from HW1 (EY2efeZG8e4z1g+HdYSy902WiesvoDx1tII1c+joqgh4EchVT415UI@[84.133.86.27]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FI22W-1fJRFQ0; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:13:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:13:37 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1472683242.20060311121337@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EY2efeZG8e4z1g+HdYSy902WiesvoDx1tII1c+joqgh4EchVT415UI X-TOI-MSGID: ddef3ef7-9180-4c87-9691-370f53e6cc1a X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.863,BAYES_05=-0.413 Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 10/11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6920 Good reception of WD2XGJ and WD2XES last night. On 137.777 appeared some "CW-blur" on the slower screens. Captures 22:45-06:30 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197828407509261520 X-Gmail-Labels: lowfer,rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: b92b45f15d54755df23ad09b4687416d9809edee Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs17607wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.232.3 with SMTP id j3mr1261379qbr; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:09:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18si3119200qba.2006.03.14.04.09.46; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ8Ix-00005z-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:07:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJ8Iw-00005q-Vj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:07:10 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJ9ru-0000PZ-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:47:37 +0000 Received: from server (dial-148.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.148]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id DE20D5DF9; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:06:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004501c64760$0dd78b20$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Cc: References: <031420060406.9260.4416414C000E3BDC0000242C22007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:08:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.292 Subject: LF: Overnight reception Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6933 Hello LFers, Copied XGJ and XNS last evening, and with MP being off I was hoping to see some signs of NA, but no such luck. Very high winds here today, but all antennas are still up! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1197933936716522846 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5845aa9c014c65985825df8208c1c2746e47933f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs1060wra; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.96.6 with SMTP id t6mr66803qbb; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:07:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29si1325568qbd.2006.03.15.08.07.06; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYUb-0005zL-Gn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:04:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJYUb-0005zC-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:04:57 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJa3w-0003SA-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:45:50 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006031516042601100925bpe>; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:04:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c6484c$5e648c40$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <585345369.20060315165204@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:20:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.070,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Mar, 14/15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64822.683AA6C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6942 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64822.683AA6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hartmut Thanks for the captures. That 2.5 hour post sunrise reception is most = interesting. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hartmut Wolff=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: LF: T/A Mar, 14/15 Copied XES, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Best recection was during local dawn. The overnight captures showed a lot of fading, except the strong signal of XGJ. Interesting was the late fade out of XES and XNS at about 08:00. Local sunrise was at 05:32. Capture 23:00-08:00 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestLF.htm 73 Hartmut ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64822.683AA6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hartmut
 
Thanks for the captures. That 2.5 hour = post sunrise=20 reception is most interesting.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hartmut=20 Wolff
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 = 10:52=20 AM
Subject: LF: T/A Mar, = 14/15

Copied XES, XGJ, XKO and XNS. Best recection was during = local=20 dawn.
The overnight captures showed a lot of fading, except the=20 strong
signal of XGJ. Interesting was the late fade out of XES and = XNS=20 at
about 08:00. Local sunrise was at 05:32.

Capture = 23:00-08:00 can=20 be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/LatestL= F.htm


73
Hartmut

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C64822.683AA6C0-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 X-GM-THRID: 1198033095344310417 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 7fd3c96c3b4e140c785285d791ef6e9d323de08c Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.14 with SMTP id s14cs13649wra; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.219.6 with SMTP id w6mr114494qbq; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si579537qbe.2006.03.16.10.23.11; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FJx4y-0004Ra-TR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:20:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FJx4y-0004RR-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:20:08 +0000 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88] helo=smtp3.versatel.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FJyel-0008Cn-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:01:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 32482 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2006 18:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.92]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 16 Mar 2006 18:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01c64925$19fbfc80$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: References: <002e01c64648$881b06a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000401c648eb$8bba61c0$2102000a@ibm> <000201c64923$5d16b4d0$37e8fc3e@your4105e587b6> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:11:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: clamping TV-cores Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7039 The thing Mal, G3KEV, wrote reminds me in how I had troubles to 'connect' two TV-U-cores together. Any suggestions how to stick them together in a good way? Even the slightest variation in pressure seems to change inductance in a rather large way. That's also one of the reasons I am searching for a toroid core......... It seems to be impossible to find a source for just one or two 3C90 cores here in Holland or Germany....... Luckely there might be a solution on its way from the UK? Dick, PA4VHF just to inform you: I'm planning to build a new (1kW) 136kHz station, including 'portable' antenna system, that I might take with me to LX later this year..........