From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:22:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EsqzW-00009N-0T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:22:30 +0000 Received: from ptn-mxlast02.plus.net ([212.159.7.98] helo=pte-mxlast04.plus.net) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EsqzV-000092-Tc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:22:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pte-mxlast04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXLast v2.00) id 1EsqzV-0007In-LK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:22:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Esqy4-0001m1-75 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:21:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Esqy3-0001ls-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:20:59 +0000 Received: from mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.205]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EsrQT-0004Ag-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:50:22 +0000 Received: from mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.133]) by mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k010Kp8r015253 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:20:51 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2005 19:20:53 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,317,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1814041397:sNHT15503348" Message-ID: <43B72096.3090906@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:21:42 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> Subject: Re: LF: TA New Year's Eve Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) After a promising start, the screen has been virtually dead for the last hour and a half. Have only seen part of one character from DRP. Happy New Year, in any case. Did everyone enjoy the extra second? JA > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:22:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EsrvO-0000BL-VV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:22:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EsrvO-0000At-Py for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:22:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Esruw-00020m-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:21:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Esruv-00020d-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:21:49 +0000 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Est2j-0000sS-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 02:34:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 93410 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2006 01:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.15.115 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2006 01:21:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c60e71$af6409a0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> <43B72096.3090906@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 01:19:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: LF: TA New Year's Eve Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Ah did you "Leap" for joy John..... :-)) Must have messed up all the synchronous receivers. MMmm Steve is showing a slightly depressed level over last night at this time....It will probably be stter towards dawn....when all that firework smoke has blown away :-)) Best Wishes for all for good DX in 2006 de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: John Andrews To: Sent: 01 January 2006 00:21 Subject: Re: LF: TA New Year's Eve > After a promising start, the screen has been virtually dead for the last > hour and a half. Have only seen part of one character from DRP. > > Happy New Year, in any case. Did everyone enjoy the extra second? > > JA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:40:11 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EssCa-00027G-P0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:40:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EssCT-0001WP-Ee for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:40:04 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ess7w-00027X-H7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:35:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ess7w-00027O-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:35:16 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EssaN-0004Uj-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 02:04:40 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ess7u-0006Xt-01; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 02:35:14 +0100 Received: from HW1 (JTwt22ZOreponIWELHh9Lov9nDhjxvij60c0FK+EPVKMxO9PlKeF8a@[84.133.98.143]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ess7o-1vS6Do0; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 02:35:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 02:35:11 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1475595063.20060101023511@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: JTwt22ZOreponIWELHh9Lov9nDhjxvij60c0FK+EPVKMxO9PlKeF8a X-TOI-MSGID: a8b13a3e-0634-40f5-b309-f769b32253ba Subject: LF: HNY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010008070206040606000908" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010008070206040606000908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good signal from Joe, VO1NA tonight. Screenshot attached. Happy New Year to all! 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--------------010008070206040606000908-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:17:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Esvb2-0006wG-1J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:17:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Esvb1-0006vo-Qt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:17:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EsvaO-00049o-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:16:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EsvaN-00049f-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:16:51 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EswiF-0000Xe-10 for 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Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> <000c01c60e58$88d047e0$4e237ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 05:19:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: TA New Year's Eve Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030003090404040000000503" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030003090404040000000503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LFers, As we rang in 2006 here at Aerial Acres, this is what the TA window looked like on the Argo screen. 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dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:19:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et0Iz-00032T-Bj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:19:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et0Iz-000321-6v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:19:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Et0IB-0004uI-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:18:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Et0IB-0004u9-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:18:23 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Et0kn-0006CT-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:47:58 +0000 Received: from [212.248.140.47] ([212.248.140.47]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k01AKZUC012927; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 10:20:37 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.9/217]); Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:18:08 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c60ebc$a9707d80$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: "LH Home" , "LF Group" , "API\(Home\)" , "API\(Work\)" Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 10:18:07 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Leap Second Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This was the output of a Garmin GPS module as the leap second happened... There were 61 seconds in the last minute of 2005. $GPRMC,235955,A,5054.5848,N,00117.4051,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*7B $GPRMC,235956,A,5054.5849,N,00117.4051,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*79 $GPRMC,235957,A,5054.5850,N,00117.4052,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*73 $GPRMC,235958,A,5054.5850,N,00117.4053,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*7D $GPRMC,235959,A,5054.5851,N,00117.4054,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*7A $GPRMC,235960,A,5054.5851,N,00117.4054,W,000.0,000.0,311205,003.5,W*70 $GPRMC,000000,A,5054.5852,N,00117.4054,W,000.0,000.0,010106,003.5,W*7A $GPRMC,000001,A,5054.5854,N,00117.4052,W,000.0,000.0,010106,003.5,W*7B $GPRMC,000002,A,5054.5854,N,00117.4053,W,000.0,000.0,010106,003.5,W*79 $GPRMC,000003,A,5054.5855,N,00117.4053,W,000.0,000.0,010106,003.5,W*79 $GPRMC,000004,A,5054.5856,N,00117.4053,W,000.0,000.0,010106,003.5,W*7D Really worth staying up for... Andy G4JNT -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 2005-12-30 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:32:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et0Vn-0002Gr-TD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:32:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et0Vn-0002GV-JK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:32:27 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Et0Va-00051c-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:32:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Et0Va-00051T-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:32:14 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Et1dX-0002Hy-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 11:44:46 +0000 Received: from 88-106-205-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.205.70]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 01 Jan 2006 10:31:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CACs6t0OHSAFe Received: from 88-106-205-70.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.205.70]:3955 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Et0VC-000Dtu-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:31:50 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 10:32:05 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: HNY & CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030006070708000603040905" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030006070708000603040905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, Happy New Year to you all. Brians signal still very good at 0955z when he finished transmissions. The attachment shows the last character sent this morning with SpecLab in QRSS30 mode. 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majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Et36M-0005bE-1W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:18:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Et36L-0005b5-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:18:21 +0000 Received: from mtai03.charter.net ([209.225.8.183]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Et4EI-0003u6-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:30:56 +0000 Received: from mxip33-10.charter.net ([10.20.203.73]) by mtai03.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060101131220.IQWU10381.mtai03.charter.net@mxip33-10.charter.net> for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:12:20 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip33-10.charter.net with ESMTP; 01 Jan 2006 08:12:19 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true Message-ID: <43B7D566.5050406@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:13:10 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> In-Reply-To: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> Subject: Re: LF: TA New Year's Eve Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080902050902030400080007" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080902050902030400080007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit After a couple of hours with no copy, signals picked up after 0200. The best copy of Laurie was around 0300:

The lower signal on the right is a local thing, source unknown. Further AQC copy was spotty.

Brian was in and out, with the best signal around 0820:

Jim's signal wasn't a lot better at any point than what's shown at 317.5, above.

John Andrews, W1TAG

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:37:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et4Kw-0007Hg-HR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:37:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et4Kw-0007Ha-ED for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:37:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Et4KA-00062F-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:36:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Et4KA-000626-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:36:42 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Et5S7-0004eh-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:49:18 +0000 Received: from d4f8d8 ([212.248.140.6]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k01EVBUC003105 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:31:12 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.9/217]); Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:28:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c60edf$ab5f8e60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: "LF Group" Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:28:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Fw: Software Archive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I've put a selection of software and a few write-ups of past projects on www.scrbg.org/g4jnt. The archive will be updated gradually as time/inclination/list-of-things-done changes. Andy G4JNT -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 2005-12-30 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:48:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et8GF-0003Wa-4R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:48:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Et8GF-0003WN-0G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:48:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Et8Ek-0006mZ-9e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:47:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Et8Ej-0006mQ-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:47:21 +0000 Received: from fh1028.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.38] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Et9Mo-00065K-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:00:02 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.140) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065A40006BB22 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:46:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c60f03$b1168740$8ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c60e14$a89e01a0$68e8fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:45:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: LF: Re: QRV

Mal,
 
Can you run QRSS-30 beacon tonight overnight for us guys in North America to try to see? The band opened up last night for EU stations. It would be nice to see how that vertical works this far away if possible. Suggest in the window 136.3171kc to 136.3201kc. Steve W3EEE runs a Grabber there as well as a few EU stations.
Hi Mike.
If I get time I will have a bash on 136.318.5 but not all night hi. I could try from say 2200z - 0100z that is when I made several xband QSO'S across to the USA a few years ago. I transmitted on 137 khz and listened for the replies on 7030 khz (I can also tx on this qrg).
Pse ck qrs 10 also, it is easier on the PA !!
HN Year and tnx for the info.
de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
Cheers,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
EN35hj
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: hamilton mal
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: LF: QRV

Hi All
LF antenna re-engineered today and suitable for 137 khz agn. I am QRV on CW between 136 - 137 khz but can qsy to any qrg because I am VFO controlled. I will also work QRS on the appropriate freqs if I hear/see any DX about!!
All QSO'S welcome but preferred modes CW or QRS 3.
Now calling cq on 136.5 khz
de Mal/G3KEV/
IO94SH
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:14:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtBSi-0005ly-4B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:14:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtBSh-0005lh-Us for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:14:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtBSN-0007Z2-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:13:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtBSN-0007Yt-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:13:39 +0000 Received: from omc3-s30.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.104]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtCaT-0007nw-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:26:23 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.107]) by omc3-s30.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:13:05 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:13:13 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV3.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:13:13 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c60e14$a89e01a0$68e8fc3e@l8p8y6> <001001c60f1b$103e74a0$d2d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:13:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:13:13 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2006 22:13:13.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[8ECB8330:01C60F20] Subject: LF: Re: QRV Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
OK thanks Mal. Just was tuning up the loop tuner a minute ago. May be listening for others tonight.
 
73's,
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: LF: Re: QRV

Mal,
 
Can you run QRSS-30 beacon tonight overnight for us guys in North America to try to see? The band opened up last night for EU stations. It would be nice to see how that vertical works this far away if possible. Suggest in the window 136.3171kc to 136.3201kc. Steve W3EEE runs a Grabber there as well as a few EU stations.
 
Cheers,
 
Mike
 
Hi Mike
I do not think I can make it tonight, a lot going on at this time of year. Keep watching you never know when I might pop up.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:13:54 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtCOg-0006Ns-5a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:13:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtCOf-0006NR-Sb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:13:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtCNy-0007v6-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:13:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtCNx-0007ux-WE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:13:10 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtDW6-0008AN-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:25:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 19145 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2006 23:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.232.58 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2006 23:12:47 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:13:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060101141041.00b6ee08@pop.vianw.pt> Subject: LF: WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030909080901000800090300" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030909080901000800090300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear LF,

G3WCB is QRV tonight, 136.320 kHz, 170W RF, 1.8 amps antenna current..I/D "WCB" QRSS 60 from 2300z until 0800z 

CT1DRP currently a good signal at this location (see screenshot). Note my ARGO scale reads about 300 mHz "high"

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM 

 

 

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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.100.128 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2006 23:23:32 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.9/217]); Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:23:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:23:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: M0BMU beacon sig tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU is QRV on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30, as of about 2320utc. Any reports very welcome.
 
Also, G3WCB, CT1DRP, and another signal on about 136.3195kHz are visible here tonight.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:20:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtJ39-0005w9-3Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:20:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtJ39-0005w1-0V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:20:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtJ23-00016r-9v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:18:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtJ20-00016i-KI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:18:56 +0000 Received: from bay102-f22.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.32] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtJV1-0003NW-5T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:48:57 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:18:31 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:18:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:18:30 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2006 06:18:31.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A23CE00:01C60F64] Subject: LF: conditons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Ive just reviewed a few days captures on my return from Tx and nowt identifiable showing from Eu. Looking at Steve plots we were a couple of dBs from the average detect here and now we are contending with 30 over tstorm - dcf39 has been pretty weak thru the period with a lot of rapid deep fades. Heres hoping for an improvement - 88F in Texas today and we have severe drought and lots of wild fires here in OK. Cheers and a happy new year, Laurence KL1x in 5 em26 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:02:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtPKB-0006DT-SW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:02:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtPKB-0006B5-J6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:02:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtPJE-0001ay-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:01:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtPJE-0001ap-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:01:08 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtQRY-0005Q4-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:14:06 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060102130042014008i2ipe>; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:00:43 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 07:58:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) TA enthusiasts Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery signal". Anyone care to claim it? Rather than try to squeeze multiple captures into the reflector I'll follow Hartmut's lead and house them elsewhere... http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Looked hard for WCB but nothing seen...static was pretty bad last night so don't give up trying. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtPZ4-0005AH-SG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtPZ4-00059J-Oi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtPYk-0001gf-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtPYk-0001gW-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:10 +0000 Received: from mtao02.charter.net ([209.225.8.187]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtQ1u-0005Z7-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:47:19 +0000 Received: from mxip31-10.charter.net ([10.20.203.71]) by mtao02.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060102131702.WJBQ26838.mtao02.charter.net@mxip31-10.charter.net> for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 08:17:02 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip31-10.charter.net with ESMTP; 02 Jan 2006 08:17:02 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Message-ID: <43B92801.3030603@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:17:53 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I had a lot of local noise last night, and hence no useful copy. Brian and Laurie were weakly visible at times, however. John Andrews > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:07:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtQLi-0006ZR-Qw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:07:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtQLi-0006ZH-MK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:07:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtQKu-0001vF-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:06:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtQKr-0001v6-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:06:53 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtQo3-00067x-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:37:04 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EtQKp-0007CN-00; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:06:51 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TtdvZQZlZe9x-A+UkJqw23dxyYgJ049PXE0PD2uJ16hTZnZ7hifKZp@[84.133.111.3]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EtQKm-06TkS80; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:06:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:06:47 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> To: Jay Rusgrove In-Reply-To: <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TtdvZQZlZe9x-A+UkJqw23dxyYgJ049PXE0PD2uJ16hTZnZ7hifKZp X-TOI-MSGID: 5193037f-3cdd-4790-86ee-a5338128ea1f Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay, > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery signal". > Anyone care to claim it? I didn't run captures of 136.318 last night, because I mostly see only the strongest signal. I had a look at Markus grabber about 00:00 UTC and saw RA3YO beaconing, too. Can't recall the frequency. This could be the "mystery signal". Probably Markus has saved some captures. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRDO-0005lq-NH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRDO-0005ld-IP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:03:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRCv-00022j-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:02:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRCu-00022a-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:02:44 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtRg7-0006KO-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:32:56 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EtRCs-0002SY-08; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:02:42 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TtdvSTZXoewUcX5nLNydMHl4PpwD9hyOSIxuTJGkGSdQnyQZWETxY1@[84.133.111.3]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EtRCn-0IB9TE0; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:02:37 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:02:37 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <623616260.20060102160237@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TtdvSTZXoewUcX5nLNydMHl4PpwD9hyOSIxuTJGkGSdQnyQZWETxY1 X-TOI-MSGID: 59a0b582-fd23-4254-8aca-f307c45c1d3c Subject: LF: NA daytime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070202070406070209070504" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070202070406070209070504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nice daytime signal of "NA". See attachment. 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Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRFu-0006sS-J5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRFu-0006sJ-DA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRFe-00026E-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRFe-000265-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout0142.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.142] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtRir-0006Lb-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:35:46 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.13) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B4A38A00037D2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:05:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c60fad$ea0cbce0$0de4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c60e14$a89e01a0$68e8fc3e@l8p8y6> <001001c60f1b$103e74a0$d2d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:36:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: QRV Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: LF: Re: QRV

OK thanks Mal. Just was tuning up the loop tuner a minute ago. May be listening for others tonight.
 
73's,
Mike
WE0H
 
Hi Mike
I did get on for a short time at 0100 - 0130z on 136.318.5 khz a few KEV 's and cw id at 6 wpm. Was getting the system tuned up. Maybe no one was looking at that time. There were a couple of other stns above and below my sig.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 

 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:20:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRU4-0004DC-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:20:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRU4-0004B9-5n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:20:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRTH-0002GK-RN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:19:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRTH-0002GB-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:19:39 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtRwU-0006QP-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:49:51 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060102151853014008f39te>; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:18:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Harmut Thanks for the info. Sounds like it may have been Mal tuning up. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "Jay Rusgrove" Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:06 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 > Jay, > > > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery signal". > > Anyone care to claim it? > > I didn't run captures of 136.318 last night, because I mostly see > only the strongest signal. I had a look at Markus grabber about 00:00 > UTC and saw RA3YO beaconing, too. Can't recall the frequency. > This could be the "mystery signal". Probably Markus has saved some > captures. > > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:48:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRvE-0008St-Da for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:48:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtRvE-0008Sg-9a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:48:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRus-0002Ox-0J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:48:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtRur-0002Ok-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:48:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0169.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.169] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtSO5-0006Xp-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:18:22 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.204) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B4A39C00036D76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:48:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:46:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: ; Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 > TA enthusiasts > > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery signal". > Anyone care to claim it? Hi Jay I looked at ur capture and the qrg looks right for me. I was testing, for stability etc in qrs in between the others. Only sent a couple of KEV 's and call id at normal speed. If I get time tonight will send qrs10 and 20. Speed last night was not timed properly but about qrs 10. I am not making any claims, there was not enough for a proper ID QRG tonight same 136.318.5 khz according to my ic - 706 driver. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > > Rather than try to squeeze multiple captures into the reflector I'll > follow Hartmut's lead and house them elsewhere... > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Looked hard for WCB but nothing seen...static was pretty bad last night > so don't give up trying. > > Jay, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:28:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtTU7-0005hk-NR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:28:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtTU7-0005hc-KO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:28:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtTTO-0002gT-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:27:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtTTN-0002gK-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:27:53 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtTwd-0007IV-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:58:08 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060102172708012007l6ske>; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:27:08 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:26:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mal Always consider it best to get a full ID before proclaiming any successes even if the time and frequency are correct...which they appear to be in this case. Will be making QRSS30 captures again overnight if you get a chance to transmit and can set up an additional QRSS 10 or 20 screen if you prefer that speed. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:54 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtUNU-0005iB-DO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtUNU-0005hm-8m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtUNB-0002pJ-MZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtUNB-0002pA-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:33 +0000 Received: from omc1-s34.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtUqR-0007oe-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:55:49 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.115]) by omc1-s34.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:25:03 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:25:03 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:25:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:25:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:25:02 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2006 18:25:03.0288 (UTC) FILETIME=[D929DB80:01C60FC9] Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Mal's antenna is looking like it works pretty darn good!!! Mal, can you try many nights this week? Looks like you put out a good signal. How much power was that last night?
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Rusgrove
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06

Harmut

Thanks for the info. Sounds like it may have been Mal tuning up.

Jay


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <wolff
To: "Jay Rusgrove" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06


> Jay,
>
> > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery
signal".
> > Anyone care to claim it?
>
>  I didn't run captures of 136.318 last night, because I mostly see
>  only the strongest signal. I had a look at Markus grabber about 00:00
>  UTC and saw RA3YO beaconing, too. Can't recall the frequency.
>  This could be the "mystery signal". Probably Markus has saved some
>  captures.
>
>  Hartmut
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:28:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtUQE-00033f-Gz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:28:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtUQE-00033Y-BI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:28:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtUPq-0002uL-8T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:28:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtUPp-0002uC-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:28:17 +0000 Received: from omc1-s4.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.206]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtVYC-0000ew-HW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:41:21 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.173.54]) by omc1-s4.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:27:25 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:27:29 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV24.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:27:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:27:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:27:28 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2006 18:27:29.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[304B75E0:01C60FCA] Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Still strong enough compared to the other signals at the time. Good to see another EU station on the air again!!!
 
Thanks,
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: hamilton mal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove
To: <lowfer@lwca.org>; <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: LF: TA 2 JAN 06


> TA enthusiasts
>
> Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery signal".
> Anyone care to claim it?
Hi Jay
I looked at ur capture and the qrg looks right for me. I was testing, for
stability etc in qrs in between the others.
Only sent a couple of KEV 's and call id at normal speed.
If I get time tonight will send qrs10 and 20. Speed last night was not timed
properly but about qrs 10.
I am not making any claims, there was not enough for a proper ID
QRG tonight same 136.318.5 khz according to my ic - 706 driver.

73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
>
> Rather than try to squeeze multiple captures into the reflector I'll
> follow Hartmut's lead and house them elsewhere...
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html
>
> Looked hard for WCB but nothing seen...static was pretty bad last night
> so don't give up trying.
>
> Jay, W1VD
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:19:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtW9m-0006U5-5l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:19:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtW9m-0006Tr-2m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:19:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtW8w-0003A1-KY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:18:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtW8w-00039s-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:18:58 +0000 Received: from fh1028.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.38] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtWcF-0008Hd-BF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:49:16 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.162) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065C00007892B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:18:45 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c60fd9$b03019a0$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:17:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 > Harmut > > Thanks for the info. Sounds like it may have been Mal tuning up. > > Jay Hi Jay and all the USA watchers of EU I hope to be on tonight starting about 23z or before and until about 0130z approx. I will be on 136.318.5 khz avoiding others and qrs 10 or 20. As a matter of interest I am only running qrp about 350w. I just worked RU6LA on QRS3, solid qso both ways. 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hartmut Wolff" > To: "Jay Rusgrove" > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 > > > > Jay, > > > > > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery > signal". > > > Anyone care to claim it? > > > > I didn't run captures of 136.318 last night, because I mostly see > > only the strongest signal. I had a look at Markus grabber about 00:00 > > UTC and saw RA3YO beaconing, too. Can't recall the frequency. > > This could be the "mystery signal". Probably Markus has saved some > > captures. > > > > Hartmut > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWJX-0004WF-6N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWJW-0004Vv-W8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWJF-0003Ga-QO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWJF-0003GR-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:37 +0000 Received: from smtpout0139.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.139] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtWmY-0008L3-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:59:56 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.204) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065A40007CF70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:29:30 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c60fdb$3033e680$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:27:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 > Mal > > Always consider it best to get a full ID before proclaiming any > successes even if the time and frequency are correct...which they appear > to be in this case. Will be making QRSS30 captures again overnight if > you get a chance to transmit and can set up an additional QRSS 10 or 20 > screen if you prefer that speed. I totally agree Jay as far as I am concerned the only criteria for a QSL is the full callsign either visual or aural. 73 and will send the full call plus kev a few times. I cannot sit up all night !!!!!!!!! but will do my best. I have 3 x inv L antennas in the vertical system at present but in the past I had 4. When I get time I will put some more up, Mal > > Jay, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWJY-0005j5-1s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWJX-0005ia-M8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWJE-0003GN-2u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWJD-0003GE-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:29:35 +0000 Received: from smtpout0139.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.139] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtWmW-0008L2-RJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.204) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065A40007CF66 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:29:27 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c60fdb$2e2d1a00$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:22:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06

Mal's antenna is looking like it works pretty darn good!!! Mal, can you try many nights this week? Looks like you put out a good signal. How much power was that last night?
 
Mike about 350w only I am trying to go easy on the PA fets !!
This PA with the present PSU will run about 700w Think what u would see or hear if I was running the Decca at 1.2 kw out hi
cul and tnx for the info de Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Rusgrove
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06

Harmut

Thanks for the info. Sounds like it may have been Mal tuning up.

Jay


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hartmut Wolff" <wolff
To: "Jay Rusgrove" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 2 JAN 06


> Jay,
>
> > Plenty of static but managed a few captures...with one "mystery
signal".
> > Anyone care to claim it?
>
>  I didn't run captures of 136.318 last night, because I mostly see
>  only the strongest signal. I had a look at Markus grabber about 00:00
>  UTC and saw RA3YO beaconing, too. Can't recall the frequency.
>  This could be the "mystery signal". Probably Markus has saved some
>  captures.
>
>  Hartmut
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:09:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWvd-0007lV-MA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:09:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtWvd-0007lL-Eg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:09:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWvK-0003Vc-2V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:08:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtWvJ-0003VT-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:08:57 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtXOY-0000bc-1F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:39:17 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EtWvB-00069L-05; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:08:49 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GhNakkZEgeso9YPKO5L221yqIu1eR38n4vujja0sFwM4Wkw7Z5Eq89@[84.133.81.140]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EtWv1-0e7lSq0; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:08:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:08:40 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1391599674.20060102220840@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: lowfer@lwca.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GhNakkZEgeso9YPKO5L221yqIu1eR38n4vujja0sFwM4Wkw7Z5Eq89 X-TOI-MSGID: 518a6262-55de-43a7-8a1c-0d18b64f6593 Subject: LF: XES on new frequency? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040508050806080805030204" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040508050806080805030204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit XES on new frequency? See attachement. 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1Eta1g-0003ub-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:27:44 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EtbAD-00045n-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:40:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 88630 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 00:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.25.146?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.25.146 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 00:26:21 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.10/218]); Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:26:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:26:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF Group, A bit late starting up tonight - M0BMU QRV from 0020utc, on 136.3175 using QRSS30. A fair amount of QRN here tonight; the only other station visible here is G3KEV on about 136.3183. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:00:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtpWR-00066C-F7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:00:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EtpWR-00064Z-5u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:00:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EtpV6-0005jC-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:59:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EtpV5-0005j3-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:59:07 +0000 Received: from smtpout0154.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.154] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Etqdq-0005i3-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:12:32 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.106) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065C00009155E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c61086$e7597720$6ad0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> <001601c61063$cb1cb220$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:42:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA 3 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: LF: TA 3 JAN 06 > Poor copy due to static from snowstorm over New England. Only traces of > G3KEV and M0BMU. > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Will continue to run captures when signals are present on DF6NM grabber. > > Jay, W1VD Hi Jay Tnx for the shots, not too bad considering your adverse condx, also I was QRS 20 and less than 500w. At least you saw something of both Jim and myself, it makes the effort worth while. The h/brew tx seems stable and the swr is good to the antenna, everything here on the nose. Let me know when ur wx improves and I will try again. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough/IO94SH > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:44:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eu3Ju-0006DT-Rv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:44:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eu3Ju-0006D7-JX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:44:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eu3IV-0006jS-0f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:43:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eu3IU-0006jJ-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:43:02 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eu4RT-00071g-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:56:42 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-43-82-249-128-118.adsl.proxad.net [82.249.128.118]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id BF7A246302 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:42:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002101c61102$70effa60$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:42:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: NA XKO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050408000600010403060400" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050408000600010403060400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:28:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eu9co-0007ZA-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:28:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0130.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.130] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuAlw-0002r8-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:42:12 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.59) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B4A39C0006FA74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:27:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c6113b$02c5d4e0$3be8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:27:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: USA TEST Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All.
I did not get on last night for a test on 136 khz. Can get on this next few nights if condx in the USA suitable, also I would like to make some XBAND qso's like I did a few years ago. A suitable freq for USA stns to tx on would be 7030 khz.
I can also tx on this freq when necessary. I will listen on here every night that I am active on 136.318.5 khz
ie I can tx/rx on 7030 khz at the same time that I am tx on 136 khz.
If anyone interested please let me have your opinion.
73 and tnx
de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:48:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuDgQ-0005HP-MF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:48:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuDgQ-0005Gg-Cc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:48:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuDfb-00083g-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:47:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuDfb-00083X-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:47:35 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuEon-0006qx-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:01:25 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABB52GA8A4GQ652 for (sender ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LDV2WV3N; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:46:24 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: <20060104.134604.3076.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 5:2:2337378105 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewDw66iLEF8rwHRIxMlS8cux1PyBPLNBo8Q== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: the difference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) All thats missing are the sails,,, HMS L. F. Bob K3DJC On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:05:42 +0100 uwe-jannsen@versanet.de writes: > Hi All, > the wires of the transmitting aerial are without any white frost. > the receiving aerial looks like that: > (pse see attachment) > > > > > regards > Uwe/dj8wx > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:04:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuFoQ-0003tM-Qp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:04:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuFoQ-0003tD-NA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:04:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuFnj-0008Lt-Rd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:04:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuFnj-0008Lk-Ab for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:04:07 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.148] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuGI0-0001Jb-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:35:27 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.233.66) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065A4000C313F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:02:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61172$16680ea0$42e9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:01:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: DRP Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
DRP visible here on qrs since 2030z 136.319 khz approx off the side of my loop. If he was CQ we could have a qso.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:16:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuG02-0003Rz-D7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:16:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuG02-0003Qz-9D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:16:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuFzl-0008SF-Gq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:16:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuFzl-0008S6-2h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:16:33 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuH8x-0000GX-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:30:25 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EuFzP-0006Rp-03; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:16:11 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GD8t-6ZQreAHRFmRGW8ggysn6DOyAxrI2uA125uSJNhtQWnjKTdJgt@[84.133.115.26]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EuFzJ-0GXxTM0; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:16:05 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:16:03 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1373906388.20060104221603@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GD8t-6ZQreAHRFmRGW8ggysn6DOyAxrI2uA125uSJNhtQWnjKTdJgt X-TOI-MSGID: ead3848a-034f-409e-a768-a473e20beafe Subject: LF: TA Jan, 3/4th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good reception of VO1NA the past 24h. No trace 10:00-11:00 UTC and 18:00-19:00 UTC. At other times the signal was visible. Captured XKO about 23:45-10:30 UTC last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuHxC-0001rP-11 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuHxB-0001oT-T8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuHwc-0000KR-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:21:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuHwc-0000KI-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:21:26 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuIQv-00024Q-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:52:49 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006010423203301400qcmsbe>; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:20:38 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:20:31 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: Jay Rusgrove , LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:20:31 +0000 Message-Id: <010420062320.4736.43BC583F0005B4D30000128022007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: Congrats to Jay X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jay, Congrats on your Part 5 license for 135.7-137.8 kHz WD2XNS issuing today! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuHxD-0004As-35 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuHxC-0004Ah-SK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:22:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuHwX-0000KE-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:21:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuHwX-0000K5-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:21:21 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuJ5o-0001WZ-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:35:15 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060104232058013008v8p1e>; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:20:58 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c61185$8454a460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002401c60fdb$2e2d1a00$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:20:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030703060807080408090203" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030703060807080408090203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Traces of DRP since 2115Z
 
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4.14) id 1EuIFh-0000XX-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:41:09 +0000 Received: from bay102-f2.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.12] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuJOy-0001iu-I1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:55:04 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:40:51 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:40:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <002401c61185$8454a460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:40:51 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2006 23:40:51.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C35B350:01C61188] Subject: RE: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hurrah I can see Loran lines - Laurence KL1X in 5! em26 >From: "Jay Rusgrove" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: TA >Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:20:57 -0500 > >Traces of DRP since 2115Z > >Current: > > > >Static not bad at the moment. > >Jay, W1VD ><< 010406.jpg >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:31:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuKu7-0002lM-VE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:31:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuKu7-0002l6-PP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:31:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuKtY-0000xb-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:30:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuKtX-0000xS-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:30:27 +0000 Received: from mtai03.charter.net ([209.225.8.183]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuM2s-0002yi-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:44:25 +0000 Received: from mxip33-10.charter.net ([10.20.203.73]) by mtai03.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060105023001.KQVV4943.mtai03.charter.net@mxip33-10.charter.net> for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip33-10.charter.net with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2006 21:30:00 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Message-ID: <43BC84DF.2040209@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:30:55 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002401c60fdb$2e2d1a00$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <002401c61185$8454a460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <002401c61185$8454a460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) >Traces of DRP since 2115Z > About the same here at 0230, with some signs of Laurie (136.3195) and > a blur that was probably KEV (136.3183) at a faster keying rate. Will > leave the captures running overnight. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:39:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuL2D-00070i-O1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:39:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuL2D-00070b-HU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:39:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuL23-000134-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:39:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuL23-00012v-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:39:15 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuMBM-00033X-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:53:13 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k052Vlfa014780 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:31:47 -0500 Received: from server (dial-121.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.121]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k052XGSr022855 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:33:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <011801c6119f$f77a56a0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> <000c01c60e58$88d047e0$4e237ad5@w4o8m9> <002801c60e92$f96ca9a0$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:29:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: TA as seen at EN93dr Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060809070506000807090505" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060809070506000807090505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LFers, Here is what I'm seeing of the 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dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:46:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuL9I-0002oX-RL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:46:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuL9I-0002oO-Of for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:46:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuL94-00019c-A5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:46:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuL93-00019T-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:46:29 +0000 Received: from mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuMIO-00036R-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:00:27 +0000 Received: from mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k052k7na017888 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:46:07 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (68.116.172.18) by mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2006 21:46:08 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,331,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1905712126:sNHT21777216" Message-ID: <43BC88A6.7070609@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 02:47:02 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> <000c01c60e58$88d047e0$4e237ad5@w4o8m9> <002801c60e92$f96ca9a0$0b01a8c0@server> <011801c6119f$f77a56a0$0b01a8c0@server> In-Reply-To: <011801c6119f$f77a56a0$0b01a8c0@server> Subject: Re: LF: TA as seen at EN93dr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) J.B., That's definitely DRP, though your frequency reading is a little high. The other signal is Laurie, G3AQC, who appears offset by the same amount. Good work! JA J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote: >Hello LFers, > >Here is what I'm seeing of the TA signals at 02:20 UTC. > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >EN93dr > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:12:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuLXt-0004DZ-En for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:12:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuLXt-0004DQ-BH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:12:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuLXd-0001J7-25 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:11:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuLXc-0001Iy-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:11:52 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuM23-000393-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:43:20 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k05369tr005187 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:06:09 -0500 Received: from server (dial129-ripley2.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.149.129]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0537jSr010570 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:07:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <013101c611a4$c611c580$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43B6FA3D.6010705@w1tag.com> <000c01c60e58$88d047e0$4e237ad5@w4o8m9> <002801c60e92$f96ca9a0$0b01a8c0@server> <011801c6119f$f77a56a0$0b01a8c0@server> <43BC88A6.7070609@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 03:04:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: TA as seen at EN93dr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi John, Thanks for the confirmation...I must get my freq. readout zeroed in one of these days...seems I'm off by about 0.6 Hz or so 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:09:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuPFY-0006NF-AM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:09:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuPFY-0006Mw-1h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:09:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuPEw-0001yV-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:08:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuPEv-0001yM-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:08:49 +0000 Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuQOK-0006ed-NO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:22:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1007.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AD614280014A for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:08:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-215.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-215.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.215]) by mwinf1007.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 69D832800148 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:08:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060105070821433.69D832800148@mwinf1007.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:08:16 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> Message-ID: References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Subject: LF: my first NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060806020105080707000302" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060806020105080707000302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My friends ! I received on a Marconi 235 feet long and only 20 feet high, here JN09XI (about 100 km NW of Paris), in a deep valley, my first full "NA", between 0300 and 0330 UTC. I know, for you, it's so easy, but, for me it sounds like a gift for this new year. 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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuRXZ-0002P5-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:36:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuRXZ-0002Ow-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:36:13 +0000 Received: from xrelay03.mail2web.com ([168.144.1.54]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuS26-0006E7-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:07:49 +0000 Received: from [168.144.251.142] (helo=M2W037.mail2web.com) by xrelay03.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EuRUJ-0007C7-QA; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:32:53 -0500 Message-ID: <380-2200614593251613@M2W037.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 86.138.36.91 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 04:32:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: ferrite rods X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the years. I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod for receiving only. Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated. If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle should the separate bars be a)in physical contact with each other b) completely isolated from each other c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used happy new year to all on list regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:15:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuS9M-0004du-8O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:15:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuS9M-0004br-0H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:15:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuS8y-0002b3-Uu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:14:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuS8y-0002au-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:14:52 +0000 Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213] helo=ptb-relay04.plus.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuTIM-0008M0-7B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:28:57 +0000 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1EuS5V-0002ow-Pv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:11:17 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c611df$fa16b850$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200614593251613@M2W037.mail2web.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:08:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Peter, Suggest you experiment ! Two short pieces of ferrite are never as good as one long one, as anyone who has ever fractured a rod will know. I don't know of any "magnetic glue" which will join the lines of flux together again - even tiny air gaps reduce the inductance. However, I have had some success bundling rods together - winding wire around three identical rods in parallel produced a more effective aerial than a single rod. Very similar to increasing the diameter of a loop antenna. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: LF: ferrite rods I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the years. I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod for receiving only. Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated. If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle should the separate bars be a)in physical contact with each other b) completely isolated from each other c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used happy new year to all on list regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:07:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuSxP-0003f5-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:07:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuSxP-0003eu-IU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:06:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuSwu-0002pY-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:06:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuSwt-0002pP-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:06:27 +0000 Received: from smtp-1.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuTRT-0006l0-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:38:05 +0000 Received: from [84.13.21.36] (helo=[84.13.21.36]) by smtp-1.opaltelecom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EuSwo-0003c3-DA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:06:22 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.12/220]); Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:06:23 +0000 Message-ID: <00b401c611e8$10956970$24150d54@traceydlqceh0p> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200614593251613@M2W037.mail2web.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:06:23 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: ferrite rods Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Take a look at the Long Wave Club of America's web site and try their message board.. ISTR that one of their members built a monster ferrite rod antenna some years ago, http://www.lwca.org/ 73s Tracey I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod for receiving only. Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 03/01/2006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuTsU-0003nI-8r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuTsT-0003m0-S2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuTs3-00036S-0C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuTs2-00036J-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:30 +0000 Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.228]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuV1S-0001G3-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:19:37 +0000 Received: from mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k05C5243013146 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:05:05 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (68.116.172.18) by mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 07:05:01 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,333,1131339600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145,217"; a="1907006768:sNHT35296464" Message-ID: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:53 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Subject: LF: TA 05 Jan Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020605010506070606000704" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020605010506070606000704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Last night was much quieter, but both Brian and Laurie earned some frequent fader miles. It was a bit difficult to get complete callsigns, even with the three letters. DRP finally faded out around 0850 UTC. Here's Brian at 0250:


...and Laurie at 0645:

That was the only fairly complete AQC received all night, though some of the characters were occasionally bright.

Mal's faster-keyed signal appears in a shot at 0020:


John Andrews, W1TAG
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jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k05C4hZf023185; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:34:43 -0330 (NST) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:34:43 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: my first NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Jean Pierre F5YG and group, Congrats on receiving the signals. Its good to see that the low aerial (about 10 metres average height) is working this well. Hartmut's extended reception yesterday was impressive. The WX is quite foul at the moment, but when it improves I will try to reconnect the receive loop and attempt some 2-way contacts. Work continues on the 60V 20A supply. Bright arcs and flames along with blobs of molten copper are had during the loading tests. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:07:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuUqJ-0002S8-IC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:07:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuUqJ-0002S1-F7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:07:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuUpj-0003S2-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:07:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuUpi-0003Rt-Qt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:07:10 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuVKK-0007cP-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:38:50 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006010513062401400qc507e>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:06:24 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:05:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 05 Jan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Much less static and good signal levels...details and captures here: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:25:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuV7c-0005z4-GQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:25:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuV7c-0005yV-CI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:25:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuV7I-0003c3-Qu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:25:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuV7I-0003bu-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:25:20 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuVbu-0007j2-17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:57:01 +0000 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.54]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id k05DRlhA010139 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:27:48 GMT Message-ID: <001501c611fb$24b25bd0$368cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:22:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: 700W LF Transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) By permission of QEX, I've posted the full version of the 700 Watt 137kHz switch mode Tx that originally appeared in the Nov/Dec 2002 issues on www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ This generated RFdirect from rectified 240V mains in a half-bridge design with a tank circuit, broadly using the same concept as the Decca units. Andy G4JNT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:26:49 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuV8h-0001it-9O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:26:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuV8h-0001iZ-3y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:26:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuV8b-0003do-Dp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:26:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuV8b-0003df-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:26:41 +0000 Received: from smtpout0168.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.168] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuVdE-0007je-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:58:21 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.26) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43B065A4000D62A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:26:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c611fb$94f3b1a0$1ad0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <764070481.20060102150647@t-online.de> <001301c60faf$d788d480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002401c60fdb$2e2d1a00$a2e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <002401c61185$8454a460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43BC84DF.2040209@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:19:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA > >Traces of DRP since 2115Z > > > About the same here at 0230, with some signs of Laurie (136.3195) and > > a blur that was probably KEV (136.3183) at a faster keying rate. Will > > leave the captures running overnight. > > > John Andrews, W1TAG Hi John I was txing at QRS10 sec dot between 0001 - 0105z 136.3183 khz. Glad you were able to see the signal at the higher speed. I normally tx qrs 10 or 20 and if condx good qrs 3 looking for xband qso's LF/7030 KHZ Tnx de Mal/G3KEV > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:19:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuXq9-0000Aj-Lc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:19:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuXq9-00009a-Fb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:19:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuXpC-0004Nd-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:18:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuXpB-0004NU-Fq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:18:49 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuYJr-0000MY-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:50:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.107] (pcp01445734pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.65.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010516175701500e5td4e>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:18:02 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [267.14.11]); Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: <43BD46B5.8020600@hifidelity.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:17:57 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 05 Jan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Greetings, Scruffy bits and pieces in and out all night, but AQC and DRP complete call at 0730z. Cheers, Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.14.11 - Release Date: 01/02/06 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:02:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuZRX-0007Db-IQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:02:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuZRX-0007CN-AO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:02:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZQe-0004p7-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:01:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZQe-0004oy-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:01:36 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuZvN-0001eP-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:33:22 +0000 Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.18]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 18:00:26 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CAKPpvEOHSQE Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.18]:3500 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EuZPV-000FeM-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:00:25 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:01:30 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: DRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, DRP visible here 136.318khz from just after 1700z. 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Dear Peter, LF Group,

 

It is certainly possible to produce a ferrite rod antenna with increased output by having multiple rods side-by side/end to end, but it has to be quite big to compete with the usual sizes of air-cored loops.

 

This is my viewpoint on ferrite rod RX antennas:- A ferrite rod acts as an "area multiplier" when it is inserted into a coil. The multiplying factor is called the "rod permeability". A ferrite rod antenna has an effective area equivalent to an air-cored loop with area (rod cross-sectional area x rod permeability). Rod permeability depends on the length/diameter ratio of the rod, and the permeability (mu) of the ferrite material (see the graph at the bottom of the page at http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_ferriterods.htm  ). For short, fat rods, the l/d ratio is the dominant factor, while for very long rods, the rod permeability nearly reaches the ferrite material permeability; the ferrites used in BC receiver rod antennas have permeabilities in the hundreds. The upshot of this is that there is an upper practical limit to rod permeability achieved by making the rod longer. There will also be an optimum trade-off of length against area, since as the length increases the volume of ferrite increases linearly, but the rod permeability levels out. Therefore, a point is reached where less ferrite would be used to make a rod with a larger area and shorter length, with the same factor (rod area x rod permeability).

 

A rod permeability of the order of 200 seems to be the optimum practical value for broadcast band materials; an air-cored loop with about 1m^2 area can give a good SNR on 136 with an appropriate preamp, so a ferrite rod of 0.005 m^2 cross-section would be expected to provide the same signal output (assuming it had the same Q as the air loop, which is roughly true). This would require a round rod of 8cm diameter. The length/diameter ratio would be of the order of 20:1, so about 1.6m long - this would weigh about 40kg.

 

This is only a very rough calculation, the rod permeability is only an approximation and it may well be possible to come up with better geometry requiring less ferrite. But it does show that a ferrite rod antenna with good performance on 136kHz would have to be quite bulky.

 

I have used an antenna with a single ferrite rod for field-strength measurements; sensitivity is OK for signals above a few 10s of uV/m, but certainly no good for DX reception. For SAQ and other VLF reception, I have used a large ferrite rod about 3cm x 3cm x 35cm, made by sticking a lot of surplus smps "U" cores together with silicone, enclosed by a casing made of “formica” sheet to hold it all together - it works well at VLF, but has rather low Q at 136k, due to the type of ferrite used

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of peter.cleall@virgin.net
Sent: 05 January 2006 09:33
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: ferrite rods

 

 

I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the

years.

 

I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod

for receiving only.

 

Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the

advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure

this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle  should the separate bars

be

a)in physical contact with each other

b) completely isolated from each other

c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used

 

 

happy new year to all on list

regards

peter  G8AFN

 

 

 

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:08:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuZXi-00009i-OX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:08:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuZXi-000091-F7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:08:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZXW-0004zn-R6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:08:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZXW-0004ze-Ez for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:08:42 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Euah2-0006XO-V7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:22:55 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-42-82-255-83-63.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.83.63]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EA3D4EC76 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:07:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001501c61222$f11a2b90$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:07:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030209050906020903090803" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030209050906020903090803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuZqF-0002LS-BL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:28:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZps-00058s-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:27:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuZpr-00058j-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:27:39 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuazR-0006zK-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:41:53 +0000 Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.18]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 18:27:17 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CAKnwvEOHSQE Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.18]:3632 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EuZmV-000HaU-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:24:11 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:27:17 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, After looking at Dex's MedFER pages I am monitoring with SpecLab & QRSS10 around 1700Khz & I can see a very straight & continuous line on my display, could this be a Loran Line or something else such a U.S. Hi-MedFER beacon. It seems to be at 1705.045Khz or very near that frequency. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:45:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eua7C-00012d-Ri for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:45:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eua7C-00012J-Kr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:45:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eua6z-0005LA-6R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:45:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eua6y-0005L1-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:45:20 +0000 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Euabj-0002MQ-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:17:08 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.2e5.1e1103 (57293) for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <2e5.1e1103.30eec253@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:41:23 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hmm, I can't quite tell by looking.  Highly unlikely to be a LORAN line at that frequency any more.  On the other hand, 1705 is the upper limit for license-free operation, so if it's a MedFER, someone might have drifted a little out of band.
 
John
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:57:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuaIT-0006jf-Uv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:57:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuaIT-0006jW-Pb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:57:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuaIC-0005Rw-5Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:56:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuaIB-0005Rn-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:56:55 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EubRm-0007Tm-8G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:11:09 +0000 Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.18]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 18:56:26 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CALH3vEOHSQE Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.18]:3814 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EuaHh-000E1n-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:56:25 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:56:33 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: OOPS! Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Guys, Sorry, but the frequency stated on the previous e-mail should be 1705004.5Hz (not 1705.045Khz). Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:07:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EubOU-0005eZ-Pg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:07:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EubOU-0005eR-Kj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:07:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EubNm-0005pt-BV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:06:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EubNl-0005pk-Qq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:06:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout0190.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.190] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EubsU-0003T9-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:38:34 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.229.20) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BD504D00004257 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:04:45 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c61233$383d2080$14e5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:20:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA 05 Jan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: LF: TA 05 Jan > Much less static and good signal levels...details and captures here: > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD Hi Jay Your recent captures look encouraging especially since I was transmitting at the higher speeds. Last night I was using QRS10, unfortunately I switched off too early, just when you hit the right button hi My normal speed will be qrs 10 or 20 which is more realistic for a potential qso. We all know from experience over the past few years that qrs 60 and 120 works but it takes too long. I have worked John/VE1JG at qrs 2 in the past so the faster speeds are possible, in fact with better than average propagation TR signals would probably be audible. I am trying to be progressive here and move away from the qrs 60/120 beacon mode night after night that some others prefer. I also work 7030 khz cw for feedback at the same time as I am txing on LF. Call me on there if you can and give me a report, calls also welcome from anyone that copies my LF signals. 73 and tnx again for your effort and shots. de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:27:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EubhX-00085z-AN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:27:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EubhX-00085W-0E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:27:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EubhA-00061p-JQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:26:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eubh9-00061g-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:26:47 +0000 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eucqg-0000ir-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:41:02 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20060105202618.IYGJ4186.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:26:18 +1300 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.70.131]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20060105202617.LANR1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:26:17 +1300 Message-ID: <000801c61238$f0f69c00$0600000a@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c61222$48cd7410$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:45:17 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: RE: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
 
Thanks to Jim M0BMU for the analysis.  The "invention" of the ferrite rod antenna for transistorised broadcast receivers is mainly one of convenience and portability, a real "wireless set" with no need to connect a wire antenna as was the practice for earlier valve receivers.  Broadcast field strengths in the intended coverage area are millivolts per metre so fairly small ferrite rods (or other bar shapes with good l/d ratio) are quite satisfactory for the task of giving portability to MF AM broadcast reception.  The fundamental property for any antenna is "aperture" and I agree with Jim's idea of "area multiplier" for using ferrite (and the rod needs to be "open ended" so flux connects with the external world, making it an "antenna" rather than an "inductor").  For LF DXing the aperture needs to be sufficient so that atmospheric noise (QRN) dominates the noise floor.  Investigation some years back by myself and the late ZL2BBJ came up with a guideline for our experments that an air cored tuned square loop should not be less than about 2 metres a side (4 square metres area) as that allowed for lower Q wiring (PVC wire and little control of spacing between turns) and catered for low QRN levels.  We were also interested in broadband untuned loops but as we tended to use only one or two spot frequencies for LF contacts the tuned (and retuned) loop was sufficient for practical use.
 
I think Jim's estimates of about 40 kg of ferrite being needed for a ferrite loop to have similar pickup to a 1 metre square air cored loop give a clear finding that for trying to receive weak LF signals that an air wound loop is far more practical than a ferrite cored antenna.  Needing at least 40 kg of ferrite might light up the eyes of ferrite manufacturers but it is not going to dupe amateur LF experimenters.  Ferrite rod antennas have their niche for compact size and use with medium to strong signal services.  Amateur LF techniques need to deal with weak signals.
 
73, Bob ZL2CA
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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:03 AM
Subject: LF: RE: ferrite rods

Dear Peter, LF Group,

 

It is certainly possible to produce a ferrite rod antenna with increased output by having multiple rods side-by side/end to end, but it has to be quite big to compete with the usual sizes of air-cored loops.

 

This is my viewpoint on ferrite rod RX antennas:- A ferrite rod acts as an "area multiplier" when it is inserted into a coil. The multiplying factor is called the "rod permeability". A ferrite rod antenna has an effective area equivalent to an air-cored loop with area (rod cross-sectional area x rod permeability). Rod permeability depends on the length/diameter ratio of the rod, and the permeability (mu) of the ferrite material (see the graph at the bottom of the page at http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_ferriterods.htm  ). For short, fat rods, the l/d ratio is the dominant factor, while for very long rods, the rod permeability nearly reaches the ferrite material permeability; the ferrites used in BC receiver rod antennas have permeabilities in the hundreds. The upshot of this is that there is an upper practical limit to rod permeability achieved by making the rod longer. There will also be an optimum trade-off of length against area, since as the length increases the volume of ferrite increases linearly, but the rod permeability levels out. Therefore, a point is reached where less ferrite would be used to make a rod with a larger area and shorter length, with the same factor (rod area x rod permeability).

 

A rod permeability of the order of 200 seems to be the optimum practical value for broadcast band materials; an air-cored loop with about 1m^2 area can give a good SNR on 136 with an appropriate preamp, so a ferrite rod of 0.005 m^2 cross-section would be expected to provide the same signal output (assuming it had the same Q as the air loop, which is roughly true). This would require a round rod of 8cm diameter. The length/diameter ratio would be of the order of 20:1, so about 1.6m long - this would weigh about 40kg.

 

This is only a very rough calculation, the rod permeability is only an approximation and it may well be possible to come up with better geometry requiring less ferrite. But it does show that a ferrite rod antenna with good performance on 136kHz would have to be quite bulky.

 

I have used an antenna with a single ferrite rod for field-strength measurements; sensitivity is OK for signals above a few 10s of uV/m, but certainly no good for DX reception. For SAQ and other VLF reception, I have used a large ferrite rod about 3cm x 3cm x 35cm, made by sticking a lot of surplus smps "U" cores together with silicone, enclosed by a casing made of “formica” sheet to hold it all together - it works well at VLF, but has rather low Q at 136k, due to the type of ferrite used

 

 

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of peter.cleall@virgin.net
Sent: 05 January 2006 09:33
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: ferrite rods

 

 

I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the

years.

 

I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod

for receiving only.

 

Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the

advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure

this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle  should the separate bars

be

a)in physical contact with each other

b) completely isolated from each other

c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used

 

 

happy new year to all on list

regards

peter  G8AFN

 

 

 

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:29:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eubjy-0008AT-OG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:29:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eubjy-0008A5-ED for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:29:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eubjp-00065N-R9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:29:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eubjp-00065C-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:29:33 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EucEa-0003la-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:01:22 +0000 Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.18]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 20:29:23 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CAMkMvUODOIQRAQ Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.18]:1032 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Eubgf-000Hsm-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:26:17 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:29:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <2e5.1e1103.30eec253@aol.com> Subject: RE: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi John & LF,
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
I didn't expect it to be a LORAN line this far away, I don't know the MedFER frequency band limits either. Since posting the e-mail the line at 1705004.5Hz now has a slightly weaker companion at about 1705029.5Hz but if the high band edge is 1705 then it must be something else, the lines do not drift at all, very stable. I beleive the MedFER beacons run very low power so maybe I can't expect to see them anyway.
 

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of WarmSpgs@aol.com
Sent: 05 January 2006 18:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER?

Hmm, I can't quite tell by looking.  Highly unlikely to be a LORAN line at that frequency any more.  On the other hand, 1705 is the upper limit for license-free operation, so if it's a MedFER, someone might have drifted a little out of band.
 
John
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EucDG-0000K7-2C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EucDF-0000Ja-Ro for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EucCu-0006K5-5p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EucCt-0006Jw-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:35 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Euchg-0004Eb-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:31:25 +0000 Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.228.18]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2006 20:59:26 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CANMTvUOHSQE Received: from 88-106-228-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.228.18]:1308 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EucCj-0000fx-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:59:25 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:00:03 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: DRP & RA3YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, DRP signal started to fade at 2000z & has completely disapeared at 2030z. Another signal faded up on 136319.5 at the same time as DRP faded down & I can see a strong RA3Y (of RA3YO) with an extra long final dash of the Y then nothing else at 2050z as if something has failed & DRP is fully visible again from 2045z. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:22:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EucZP-00076p-Jd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:22:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EucZP-00075k-6j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:22:51 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EucYp-0006UU-K7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:22:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EucYp-0006UL-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:22:15 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EudiR-0001iH-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:36:31 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006010521214811100o18hqe>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:21:53 +0000 Message-ID: <43BD8DF2.10109@att.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:21:54 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060806000405000004010600" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060806000405000004010600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gary - G4WGT wrote:

 
I didn't expect it to be a LORAN line this far away, I don't know the MedFER frequency band limits either. Since posting the e-mail the line at 1705004.5Hz now has a slightly weaker companion at about 1705029.5Hz but if the high band edge is 1705 then it must be something else, the lines do not drift at all, very stable. I beleive the MedFER beacons run very low power so maybe I can't expect to see them anyway.
Gary,

Thought I had better check NC HiMedfer's frequency.  I found it just a few Hz high of the posted frequency.  It is presently on 1704.980 kHz with the temp an unseasonable 65 deg F.  I have never found it more than a few Hz from this frequency so an Argo 30 dot sec window will find the pattern.  I would guess your chance of catching this signal is very slim to nothing but here's what it looks like:


73,
Dex
 

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of WarmSpgs@aol.com
Sent: 05 January 2006 18:41
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER?

Hmm, I can't quite tell by looking.  Highly unlikely to be a LORAN line at that frequency any more.  On the other hand, 1705 is the upper limit for license-free operation, so if it's a MedFER, someone might have drifted a little out of band.
 
John
 

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Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:48:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:48:04 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Hi Dex,
 
Thanks for the info, where can I find the actual freq allocations for these licence free operations?
 
Good to see an example of what I should expect to see, I was just curious after looking at your MedFER pages.
 
I have now tuned that Rx to DI2AG on 440044Hz, but I will look at Hi-MedFER again.
 
Thanks.
 
Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:15:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EudNv-0001AB-5M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:15:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EudNu-00019s-Vf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:15:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EudNj-0006zL-DP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:14:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EudNg-0006zC-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:14:48 +0000 Received: from [63.240.77.84] (helo=sccrmhc14.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EudsS-0005Ex-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:46:40 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006010522134101400sinsse>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:13:41 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c61247$93208dc0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000201c61233$383d2080$14e5fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:30:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 05 Jan Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Mal
 
Okay on the QRSS10. You may want to move frequency a bit to get away from CT1DRP since the QRSS10 screen puts you nearly on top of him.
 
Will blow the cobwebs out of the HF stuff this weekend so we can give the crossband QSO a try. If condx remain good it shouldn't be much of a challange.
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA 05 Jan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: LF: TA 05 Jan


> Much less static and good signal levels...details and captures here:
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html
>
> Jay, W1VD
Hi Jay
Your recent captures look encouraging especially since I was transmitting at
the higher speeds. Last night I was using QRS10, unfortunately I switched
off too early, just when you hit the right button hi
My normal speed will be qrs 10 or 20 which is more realistic for a potential
qso. We all know from experience over the past few years that qrs 60 and 120
works but it takes too long. I have worked John/VE1JG at qrs 2 in the past
so the faster speeds are possible, in fact with better than average
propagation TR signals would probably be audible.
I am trying to be progressive here and move away from the qrs 60/120 beacon
mode night after night that some others prefer.
I also work 7030 khz cw for feedback at the same time as I am txing on LF.
Call me on there if you can and give me a report, calls also welcome from
anyone that copies my LF signals.
73 and tnx again for your effort and shots.
 de Mal/G3KEV


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:22:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EudUc-0002LN-TO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:22:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EudUc-0002L7-MP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:21:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EudUJ-00074y-Bj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:21:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EudUI-00074p-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:21:38 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eudz6-0005R8-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:53:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 84170 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2006 22:20:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.232.43 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2006 22:20:30 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:21:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1961026889.20060105224804@t-online.de> Subject: LF: DK7SU...I think... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050105070302020901070803" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050105070302020901070803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF, Copied DK7SU this evening, I think. New station for me. 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> where can I find the actual freq allocations for these licence free operations?
 
http://lwca.org/sitepage/part15/whatisit.htm contains a summary of the bands, and links to the applicable FCC Rules.
 
John
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:19:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EueOe-0002iO-Dr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:19:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EueOe-0002hW-19 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:19:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EueOJ-0007XH-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:19:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EueOI-0007X8-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:19:30 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EufXu-00041J-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:33:48 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20060105231901113005vrfhe>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:19:06 +0000 Message-ID: <43BDA961.3000206@att.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:18:57 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF , LowFer LWCA Subject: LF: CT1DRP nice copy in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I shut down XKO briefly to look for Brian's signal. At 2310z his signal is very strong. Dex W4DEX / WD2XKO http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:25:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EueUE-0004tq-DG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:25:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EueUE-0004tb-AD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:25:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EueTs-0007cj-5q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:25:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EueTm-0007ca-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:25:10 +0000 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eueyb-00065k-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:57:03 +0000 Received: from jsm (unknown [209.121.18.17]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 81BE6B7DF7 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:21:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000b01c6124e$27e4e860$111279d1@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200614593251613@M2W037.mail2web.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:17:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Peter - I have had good results by gluing these together at the ends with regular thin CA ('crazy glue') and then bundling them together and staggering the end joints. I have one that is 22" in length and is made up of 10 separate rods into an FET preamp. Steve / VE7SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:40:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eugb0-00051B-2j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:40:47 +0000 Received: from pte-mxlast03.plus.net ([212.159.7.113] helo=ptn-mxlast01.plus.net) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eugaz-00050v-P1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:40:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptn-mxlast01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXLast v2.00) id 1Eugaz-0005j9-Cr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:40:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EugUv-000088-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:34:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EugUu-00007z-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:34:28 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eugzm-0007BD-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 02:06:24 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k061SG09012120 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:28:17 -0500 Received: from server (dial-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.146]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k061Tne7024274 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:29:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <019d01c61260$1389dbc0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 01:24:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: CT1DRP best yet! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040203020504080903060800" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040203020504080903060800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello LFers,
 
At 01:20 UTC this is how well CT1DRP is coming in at EN93dr.
Without a doubt, the best copy of a TA signal I've had to date!
 
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
EN93dr
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4.14) id 1EuniW-0002Xe-UR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:17:00 +0000 Received: from xrelay05.mail2web.com ([168.144.1.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuosG-0002tL-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:31:28 +0000 Received: from [168.144.251.170] (helo=M2W062.mail2web.com) by xrelay05.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eunhx-0004Si-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:16:30 -0500 Message-ID: <380-2200615691625515@M2W062.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 86.138.36.91 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 04:16:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: LF: RE: ferrite rods X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Original Message: ----------------- From: james moritz j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:03:08 -0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: ferrite rods Dear Peter, LF Group, It is certainly possible to produce a ferrite rod antenna with increased output by having multiple rods side-by side/end to end, but it has to be quite big to compete with the usual sizes of air-cored loops. This is my viewpoint on ferrite rod RX antennas:- A ferrite rod acts as an "area multiplier" when it is inserted into a coil. The multiplying factor is called the "rod permeability". A ferrite rod antenna has an effective area equivalent to an air-cored loop with area (rod cross-sectional area x rod permeability). Rod permeability depends on the length/diameter ratio of the rod, and the permeability (mu) of the ferrite material (see the graph at the bottom of the page at http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_ferriterods.htm ). For short, fat rods, the l/d ratio is the dominant factor, while for very long rods, the rod permeability nearly reaches the ferrite material permeability; the ferrites used in BC receiver rod antennas have permeabilities in the hundreds. The upshot of this is that there is an upper practical limit to rod permeability achieved by making the rod longer. There will also be an optimum trade-off of length against area, since as the length increases the volume of ferrite increases linearly, but the rod permeability levels out. Therefore, a point is reached where less ferrite would be used to make a rod with a larger area and shorter length, with the same factor (rod area x rod permeability). A rod permeability of the order of 200 seems to be the optimum practical value for broadcast band materials; an air-cored loop with about 1m^2 area can give a good SNR on 136 with an appropriate preamp, so a ferrite rod of 0.005 m^2 cross-section would be expected to provide the same signal output (assuming it had the same Q as the air loop, which is roughly true). This would require a round rod of 8cm diameter. The length/diameter ratio would be of the order of 20:1, so about 1.6m long - this would weigh about 40kg. This is only a very rough calculation, the rod permeability is only an approximation and it may well be possible to come up with better geometry requiring less ferrite. But it does show that a ferrite rod antenna with good performance on 136kHz would have to be quite bulky. I have used an antenna with a single ferrite rod for field-strength measurements; sensitivity is OK for signals above a few 10s of uV/m, but certainly no good for DX reception. For SAQ and other VLF reception, I have used a large ferrite rod about 3cm x 3cm x 35cm, made by sticking a lot of surplus smps "U" cores together with silicone, enclosed by a casing made of "formica" sheet to hold it all together - it works well at VLF, but has rather low Q at 136k, due to the type of ferrite used -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of peter.cleall@virgin.net Sent: 05 January 2006 09:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: ferrite rods I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the years. I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod for receiving only. Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated. If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle should the separate bars be a)in physical contact with each other b) completely isolated from each other c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used happy new year to all on list regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:33:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuouM-0002vc-4f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:33:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuouL-0002ud-Vt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:33:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Euotd-00030q-Sh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:32:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Euotd-00030h-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:32:33 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EupOc-0002tr-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:04:39 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:16083 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuotU-000M28-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:32:24 +0000 Message-ID: <003501c612ac$771222f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <380-2200615691625515@M2W062.mail2web.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:32:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: RE: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello all, A complete range of commercial ferrite antennas is available here: http://www.spezialantennen.info/ 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:46:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eup6x-0002ee-0G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:46:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eup6w-0002eS-RK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:46:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eup6k-0003Aq-Po for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:46:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eup6k-0003Ah-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:46:06 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuqGX-0003xN-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:00:35 +0000 Received: from 88-106-234-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.234.71]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2006 10:45:40 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CALTYvUODOIQQAQ Received: from 88-106-234-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.234.71]:1105 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Eup3K-000BHW-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:42:34 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:45:40 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <25e.4b2179f.30eef5c2@aol.com> Subject: RE: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thanks for the link John.
 
73 Gary.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of WarmSpgs@aol.com
Sent: 05 January 2006 22:21
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER?

> where can I find the actual freq allocations for these licence free operations?
 
http://lwca.org/sitepage/part15/whatisit.htm contains a summary of the bands, and links to the applicable FCC Rules.
 
John
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:36:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuptS-0004MZ-LO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:36:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuptS-0004JP-4r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:36:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eupsn-0003XX-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:35:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eupsk-0003XO-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:35:42 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuqNl-0003SE-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:07:49 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010611352301500dvvdde>; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:35:24 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c612b5$485442a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <000801c611f8$d4f93020$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:35:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: TA 06 Jan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static and good signal levels...captures here: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Not much activity last night...maybe weekend will stimulate some additional spider cooking... Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:07:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EurK0-0003S0-GI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:07:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EurJz-0003RH-W2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:07:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EurJN-00046d-S9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:07:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EurJN-00046U-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:07:17 +0000 Received: from bay102-f10.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.20] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EusTE-0005ib-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:21:48 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 05:06:54 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:06:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000701c612b5$485442a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:06:54 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2006 13:06:54.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[11028110:01C612C2] Subject: RE: LF: Re: TA 06 Jan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Slowly improving conditions from a Southern Mid US Continent viewpoint, with brief weak CT1DRP "drp"signal seen at around 0300z - no one else yet. No long range Lowfers seen overnight but "MO" Seneca strong on 186.2994 Khz ish Laurence KL1X in 5 em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:49 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EurSZ-0004mQ-Uz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:49 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EurSZ-0004k6-LW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EurSJ-0004Gp-EW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EurSI-0004Gg-Ty for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:31 +0000 Received: from bay102-f4.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.14] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EurxQ-00047h-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:48:41 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 05:16:17 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:16:17 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2006 13:16:17.0544 (UTC) FILETIME=[609CA880:01C612C3] Subject: LF: tickity tickity tickity tickity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit >From the NELS web site Extended operation of Loran-C at the Norwegian stations The Government will continue the operation of the four Norwegian Loran-C stations, Værlandet (Askvoll Municipality in Sogn og Fjordane), Bø in Vesterålen (Nordland), Berlevåg (Finnmark), and Jan Mayen, in 2006. The reason for this is the renewed interest in this terrestrial navigation system in Europe. (09.12.05) Denmark have decided to continue the operation of the Danish Loran-C station at Ejde. Germany’s decision to discontinue the operation of its LORAN C station Sylt remains unchanged. However, the station Sylt will not, as originally planned, be switched off on 3 January 2006, but the operation will be continued until the measures required for the conversion of the time synchronisation have been carried out. It is expected that these measures will take about 4 to 5 weeks. It cannot yet be predicted whether the station Sylt will be reactivated at a later time in a different provider organization. This depends on whether it will be possible to find a binding and sustainable new concept for LORAN C applying to all of Europe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:35:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eurl0-0007Jl-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:35:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eurl0-0007JB-KG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:35:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eurke-0004TB-JT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:35:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eurke-0004T2-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:35:28 +0000 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EusFm-0004Ku-66 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:07:39 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 495027000093 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:35:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-2-48.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.231.48]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 86F4B70000D4 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:35:20 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060106133520552.86F4B70000D4@mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200601061435120543.06459441@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:35:12 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I doubt that it could be a Loran line. The nearest Loran system in frequency used to be Loran A with a centre frequency just above 1900kHz. It was the bane of Topband DXers but was shut down years ago. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/01/2006 at 18:27 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi All, > >After looking at Dex's MedFER pages I am monitoring with SpecLab & QRSS10 >around 1700Khz & I can see a very straight & continuous line on my display, >could this be a Loran Line or something else such a U.S. Hi-MedFER beacon. >It seems to be at 1705.045Khz or very near that frequency. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:17:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EutLp-0002Ow-H3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:17:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EutLp-0002OI-89 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:17:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EutLF-00053I-1P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:17:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EutLE-000539-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:17:20 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([194.67.23.149]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuuV7-0007HY-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:31:53 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.122] (port=53135 helo=mail.ru) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1EutKx-0005ZH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:17:03 +0300 Message-ID: <43BE89FF.4010802@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:17:19 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: DRP & RA3YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Gary! Here low power abt 300W, tnx for report. Dmitri Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi, > >DRP signal started to fade at 2000z & has completely disapeared at 2030z. >Another signal faded up on 136319.5 at the same time as DRP faded down & I >can see a strong RA3Y (of RA3YO) with an extra long final dash of the Y then >nothing else at 2050z as if something has failed & DRP is fully visible >again from 2045z. > > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:01:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euu1i-00020V-8h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:01:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euu1i-00020D-4u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:01:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Euu1M-0005Kb-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:00:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Euu1L-0005KS-Vs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:00:52 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuuWX-00058b-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:33:06 +0000 Received: from 88-106-234-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.234.71]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2006 15:59:42 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CANIgvkOHSwE Received: from 88-106-234-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.234.71]:2097 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EutxE-0005Yq-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:56:36 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:00:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200601061435120543.06459441@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Subject: RE: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi John, Thanks for that info, I don't remember LORAN A on 1900khz the only thing I recall is the navigational aid somewere around 1900khz which sent a series of differing frequency tones & was quite melodic but I can't remember what it was called, unless that was LORAN A & not the chattering type of transmission we are used to with LORAN C. 73, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- I doubt that it could be a Loran line. The nearest Loran system in frequency used to be Loran A with a centre frequency just above 1900kHz. It was the bane of Topband DXers but was shut down years ago. 73 John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:47:54 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euvgv-0002N7-EE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euvgv-0002Mv-A8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuvgD-0005tV-2T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:47:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuvgC-0005tM-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:47:08 +0000 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Euwq9-0000UR-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:01:44 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B1DDB7000101 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 18:46:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-4-153.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.233.153]) by mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D781270000BA for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 18:46:46 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060106174646882.D781270000BA@mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200601061846390240.00B526B0@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:46:39 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) On reflection I think Loran A was on about 1930. From what I recall it sounded a bit like multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 06/01/2006 at 16:00 Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi John, > >Thanks for that info, I don't remember LORAN A on 1900khz the only thing I >recall is the navigational aid somewere around 1900khz which sent a series >of differing frequency tones & was quite melodic but I can't remember what >it was called, unless that was LORAN A & not the chattering type of >transmission we are used to with LORAN C. > >73, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > >-----Original Message----- > >I doubt that it could be a Loran line. The nearest Loran system in >frequency used to be Loran A with a centre frequency just above 1900kHz. >It >was the bane of Topband DXers but was shut down years ago. > >73 >John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:10:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euw2i-0004t6-9S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:10:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euw2h-0004rz-94 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:10:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Euw2P-000655-O6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:10:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Euw2P-00064w-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:10:05 +0000 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuwXc-00061U-6o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:42:22 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.60.64c0679e (3866) for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:06:07 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:06:06 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 Subject: Re: Re[2]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? 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>  ...multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ.
 
Excellent description, John!  And a rather slow disco DJ, at that.
 
Here, I believe the frequency span was roughly 1700 to 1900.  One could often hear them with an AM broadcast receiver, and 160m was largely the Unknown & Barely Usable Ham Band.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:38:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuwUM-0002Rg-Ew for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:38:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuwUM-0002Qi-31 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:38:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuwU3-0006HZ-CP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:38:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuwU2-0006HQ-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:38:38 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuwzF-0006Aa-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:10:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 32453 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 18:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.56.93 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 18:37:28 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c612f0$3ea835a0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 18:37:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: Re[2]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi John what a difference, in the UK top band was the 2m of its day. Whilst there were a few the DXers, it was used a lot for local chatting (AM of course) and inter-G activity. The only other country in Europe licenced for it them was OK. We were limited to 10watts DC input in the late 50s and 60s.....great fun....easy construction (well compared with 2m) .....  I learned a lot of radio playing up there.
 
Yes Loran-A sterilized a portion of the band between about 1920 and 1980 in the UK, but a good noise limiter could be quite useful.
 
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
 
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER?

>  ...multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ.
 
Excellent description, John!  And a rather slow disco DJ, at that.
 
Here, I believe the frequency span was roughly 1700 to 1900.  One could often hear them with an AM broadcast receiver, and 160m was largely the Unknown & Barely Usable Ham Band.
 
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When I used to listen 30 years ago on AM in a wide(ish) bandwidth at ~1900kHz, it sounded like a bell jangling - was this the same signal as your 'bandsaws' ?  The signal was often referred to as the bells, I seem to reecall.
 
Andy  G4JNT
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:06 PM
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>  ...multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ.
 
Excellent description, John!  And a rather slow disco DJ, at that.
 
Here, I believe the frequency span was roughly 1700 to 1900.  One could often hear them with an AM broadcast receiver, and 160m was largely the Unknown & Barely Usable Ham Band.
 

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Good evening folks,

 

I’ve literally just joined the group today so please forgive me if my question has been answered previously…

 

Today, I’ve come across a strange sound on two different freqs, namely 132.5kHz and 144.5kHz on USB.

 

It sounds like a cross between ‘a ball-bearing rattling around the bottom of a steel bucket’ and a sonar pulse!!!

 

Any ideas?

 

Regards

 

Chris (grid loc:IO91kw)

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuyKi-000159-Ad for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuyKi-00014o-43 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuyJu-000762-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuyJt-00075t-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:18 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuypA-0006ua-NF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:08:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.107] (pcp01445734pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.65.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010620360901500e2kaoe>; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:36:09 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [267.14.11]); Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:10 +0000 Message-ID: <43BED4B9.3000204@hifidelity.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:09 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> <002001c612f2$24af6d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> In-Reply-To: <002001c612f2$24af6d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: The bells, the bells! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Andy, et al, Yeah, "The Bells" were within a few kHz of 1900kHz, although occasionally you could find one higher or lower. There were some down around 1750-ish, too. They were Decca variants, harbour- or estuary-wide in scope, called 'HiFix', and latterly 'Hyperfix'. Same idea, a master pulse, then repeated (3? 4?) slave pulses slightly off frequency. A cluster of them together was indeed melodious. When I first had a decent topband setup here, 20 years ago, I could hear a chain around 1900 as well, probably Baltimore harbour or Philadelphia dockyards. I too first tasted hambone flesh on topband in the sixties; the unbelievably lethal contraptions hammer-and-nailed together to make (what we could only hope was) 10W would give me heart attack if either of my kids did the same today. (Like messing with fireworks - it's amazing any of us are still alive and fully limbed, really.) Dad's prized Leak hifi amp 'borrowed' as a modulator. Wires all over - it was wonderful. And, yes Alan, working one's first OK on topband was a rite of passage; a rosy glow of super-being-dom for days afterwards! In deepest, darkest Henley-on-Thames, Loran daytime clobbered say 1930-1970-ish kHz; there were two chains audible simultaneously, hence the cyclical 'phasing' sound between them. Night-time, another bunch appeared centred on 1850. Fancifully we presumed it was an American/Canadian chain, but the probable reality was that it was from the top end of Scotland or such. Never had the presence of mind to record Loran (or The Bells), which considering the radio 'junk' and the recording 'junk' cohabited the same space and were to an unpracticed eye one-and-the-same 'junk', was a sad oversight. It would be intriguing to find out where those Loran 'A' sites were. And here we are waiting fingers crossed for Loran 'C' to go away. Trouble is, what'll we do for easy calibration, then? And will I have the presence of mind to record IT before it goes . . . Cheers, Steve G3YDV in a former life Andy Talbot wrote: > > When I used to listen 30 years ago on AM in a wide(ish) bandwidth at = > ~1900kHz, it sounded like a bell jangling -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.14.11 - Release Date: 01/02/06 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:22:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euzyc-0006v4-4i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:22:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Euzyb-0006tI-Vr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:22:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Euzy0-0007ea-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:21:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Euzy0-0007eR-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:21:48 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev180-0003SB-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:36:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 21664 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 22:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.122.205?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.122.205 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 22:20:25 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.14/222]); Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:20:05 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c6130f$5835dd00$cd7a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006201c612f5$a1858f10$e6668656@Beast> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:20:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Strange LF signals in UK? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Chris,
 
These are "Datatrak" beacons, operated by Securicor, I believe, and used for vehicle tracking. There are several located around western Europe. That is about all I know about them - does anybody have any technical info about this system?
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: LF: Strange LF signals in UK?

Good evening folks,

 

I’ve literally just joined the group today so please forgive me if my question has been answered previously…

 

Today, I’ve come across a strange sound on two different freqs, namely 132.5kHz and 144.5kHz on USB.

 

It sounds like a cross between ‘a ball-bearing rattling around the bottom of a steel bucket’ and a sonar pulse!!!

 

Any ideas?

 

Regards

 

Chris (grid loc:IO91kw)

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:29:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev054-0004Ij-B2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:29:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev054-0004IL-4R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:29:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev04r-0007nd-S9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:28:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev04r-0007nU-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:28:53 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev0a9-0007kW-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:01:15 +0000 Received: by fmmailgate04.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id k06MSj3L011260 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:28:45 +0100 Received: from [217.248.194.179] by freemailng1802.web.de with HTTP; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:28:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:28:42 +0100 Message-Id: <613573071@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Subject: Re: LF: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Peter. If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle should the separate bars > be > a)in physical contact with each other No this is not necessary. The major gap is the distance from pole to pole via the air. > b) completely isolated from each other No, rods may touch each other > c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used Just fill the rods in an stable tube of plastic material (fiber glass reinforced tube or PVC tube. Aboot the relative permeability of an gapped mag circuit have a look to the amidon catalog (Amidon.de or just try ast Fair Rite, the manufacturer of amidon ferrites. Moreabout soft ferrites and mag. materials upon request. 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org schrieb am 05.01.06 10:39:39: > > > I have a pile of ferrite rods that I have rescued from radios over the > years. > > I have been thinking about trying to make them into one larger antenna rod > for receiving only. > > Would I get any advantage over a normal short single rod, or do the > advantages from one aspect get cancelled out by other aspects. I'm sure > this must have been tried out before any advice would be appreciated. > > > If I was to put them into an overlapping bundle should the separate bars > be > a)in physical contact with each other > b) completely isolated from each other > c) if glued together is there a specific "glue" that should be used > > > happy new year to all on list > regards > peter G8AFN > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:30:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev063-0001Pf-Ee for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:30:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev063-0001PX-B1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:30:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev05v-0007py-Pu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:29:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev05v-0007pp-BY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:29:59 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev0bC-0007lP-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:02:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 25597 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2006 22:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.121.202 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2006 22:29:50 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:30:44 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: LF: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF, 
 
 G3WCB is QRV tonight, 136.320 kHz, 170W RF, 1.8 amps antenna current..I/D "WCB" QRSS 60 from 2300z until 0800z  
 
 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM 

 

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:00:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev0Zg-0005Vz-CR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:00:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev0Zg-0005UM-7G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:00:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev0ZI-000893-QD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:00:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev0ZI-00088u-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:00:20 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev14c-0007ug-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:32:43 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200601062259300130094ke4e>; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:59:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c61314$dcc1cd40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:59:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dave Will be watching. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: LF: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... > Dear LF, > > G3WCB is QRV tonight, 136.320 kHz, 170W RF, 1.8 amps antenna current..I/D > "WCB" QRSS 60 from 2300z until 0800z > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:06:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev1bJ-00068G-Ho for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:06:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev1bJ-00067c-Db for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:06:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev1am-0008WT-D7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:05:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev1al-0008WK-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:05:55 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev264-0008FN-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:38:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 88966 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 00:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.90.225?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.90.225 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 00:05:46 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.14/222]); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:05:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c6131e$0fd98ca0$e15a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 00:05:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU QRV from about 0000utc on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. G3WCB and CT1DRP are also visible here.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:04:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev94A-0001et-BS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:04:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev94A-0001dQ-6K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:04:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev93I-0002Z4-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:03:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev93H-0002Yv-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:03:51 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ev9Yn-0002Mi-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:36:26 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-167-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.167.180] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k07819SK027479 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:01:14 GMT Message-ID: <006801c61360$8e81feb0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:01:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: Old radio navaids Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All,
 
Loran-A, post-war, was centred on 1950 and 1850 kHz. 1950 was almost entirely North Atlantic, 1850 Pacific and some American. If you heard 1850 in the UK it was genuine DX.
All Atlantic were switched off in 1980 plus or minus a bit, but the Japanese kept some going on 1850 until only a few years ago. They could be heard here in UK most winter nights.
Hifix and Hyperfix occupied numerous channels from 1650 to 2300 kHz, but was a very narrow-band system unlike Loran which was pulses. All now closed - the dreaded GPS has taken over.
The others on 133 and 144 are indeed Datatrak, a British vehicle tracking system run by Securicor but also used in some countries in Europe. A very narrow-band system
invented by a bunch of engineers who left Decca when it was bought up by Racal in the 1980's.
 
If you're really interested in old radio navaids read my just-published book "Air Navigation - from Balloons to Concorde" (ISBN 1-903953-90-1, Woodfield Press, £25) in which there are whole chapters on them. Yes, it's a plug (also explains why I've done very little on the ham bands for the last few years!). 
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
   
 
   
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:35:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev9XS-0001Ex-4Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:35:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ev9XS-0001Af-0U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:35:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev9X2-0002n6-93 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:34:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ev9X1-0002mx-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:34:35 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvA2X-0002Z1-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 09:07:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 69433 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 08:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.141.188?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.141.188 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 08:33:28 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c61364$fc656a80$bc8d7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c6131e$0fd98ca0$e15a7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:33:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
The M0BMU beacon shut down at about 0755 this morning - in the daylight, it became apparent that the aerial wire had got caught up, and as a result was not at its full height, so ERP would probably have been down by a few dB.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight...

Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU QRV from about 0000utc on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. G3WCB and CT1DRP are also visible here.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:27:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCEV-0006q1-5O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:27:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCEU-0006pq-Vx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:27:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCDe-0003t4-H6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:26:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCDd-0003sv-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:26:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout0147.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.147] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvDNr-0002SO-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:41:38 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.83) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BC2128000406E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c6137d$24cb97c0$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:19:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: condx Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
A few stns active last night about 2100 on qrs abt 2100z on 136.319. Apart from the regulars RA3YO was strong on my loop and even stronger on the Vertical.
I did not TX last night.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:28:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCFK-0003TX-3v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:28:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCFJ-0003SM-QU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:28:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCF8-0003uz-GL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:28:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCF8-0003uq-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:28:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0149.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.149] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvCkh-0003q2-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:00:56 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.83) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BC2128000406EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:26:26 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c6137d$2619c2a0$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:25:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Hi Jim. This past while I have been getting some qrm on 136 especially on my Vertical antenna being omni, I suspect it must be the Rugby transmitter. I am getting strong lines spaced at 7.4 hz. It is barely visible on my loop which is broadside to Rugby and the South. It also sounds like a ckicking noise. Is this the Rughy qrm that those in the midlands and south are suffering from? 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:45:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCVI-0001fh-Uh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:45:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCVI-0001dc-RH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:45:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCUx-00048p-Ok for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:44:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCUx-00048g-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:44:39 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvDf8-0002cg-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:32 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvCUe-0004db-01; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:44:20 +0100 Received: from HW1 (EG5XSiZcweOlwFOaMwq-1TbxPAUTlIhEMxMob2LMFx-YGmKBSFbZgZ@[84.133.126.10]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvCUT-0AJKi00; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:44:09 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:44:04 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <185219546.20060107124404@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EG5XSiZcweOlwFOaMwq-1TbxPAUTlIhEMxMob2LMFx-YGmKBSFbZgZ X-TOI-MSGID: b3a0bcb5-2214-4764-95b8-c0335b631306 Subject: LF: XKO last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Very strong signal of "XKO" last night. I've no audio recordings but the QRSS3 capture looks like the signal reaches the "audible signal threshold", much stonger than the nearby Loran lines. Dex, how fast is the CW-speed at the beginning of each letter? I'll start running audio recordings of the signal the next night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:01:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCku-0004bi-Ri for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:01:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvCku-0004b0-I7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:01:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCkV-0004JD-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:00:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvCkV-0004J4-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:00:43 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvDuf-0002oL-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:15:36 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010712001701500e052de>; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:00:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c61381$ecb2fd60$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c6131e$0fd98ca0$e15a7ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c61364$fc656a80$bc8d7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 07:00:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 7 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static with slightly lower DRP signal levels from the previous night. Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jim...not bad for a crippled antenna. Perhaps some hints of WCB but nothing I'd hang my hat on... Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:56:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvDcO-0008US-Px for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:56:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvDcO-0008U4-K0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:56:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvDbi-0004hd-Pt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:55:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvDbi-0004hU-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:55:42 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvE7J-0004LC-Cq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:28:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 51761 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 12:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.106.152?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.106.152 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:55:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c61389$99c7e720$986a8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c6131e$0fd98ca0$e15a7ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c61364$fc656a80$bc8d7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:55:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Mike, LF Group,
 
That's basically it - The antenna here is an inverted L with a 40m horizontal part about 9m average height - at night, I put a 14m telescopic fibreglass mast under the middle of it, making it into an inverted V shape, and adding roughly 4dB to the ERP. It has to be in hours of darkness only, otherwise the neigbours become convinced I am trying to blight the landscape, give them leukaemia, etc. Strange, considering that this QTH has the masts of Brookmans Park looming over it, pumping out 400kW of MF night and day, but there you go...
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night

Hi Jim,
 
Did you wait until it was dark so the neighbors didn't see you crank up the big tower??? Hi hi...
 
Cheers,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: James Moritz
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night

Dear LF Group,
 
The M0BMU beacon shut down at about 0755 this morning - in the daylight, it became apparent that the aerial wire had got caught up, and as a result was not at its full height, so ERP would probably have been down by a few dB.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
----- Original Message -----
From: James Moritz
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight...

Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU QRV from about 0000utc on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. G3WCB and CT1DRP are also visible here.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvDl8-0000I7-85 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvDl8-0000Gq-16 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvDkr-0004nI-Pw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvDkr-0004n9-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:09 +0000 Received: from mxsf12.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.212]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvEGR-0004O9-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:37:49 +0000 Received: from mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.132]) by mxsf12.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k07D4x3c029384 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:04:59 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2006 08:03:14 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,342,1131339600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145,217"; a="1798117476:sNHT551876604" Message-ID: <43BFBC4A.4000309@w1tag.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:04:10 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c6131e$0fd98ca0$e15a7ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c61364$fc656a80$bc8d7ad5@w4o8m9> <000a01c61381$ecb2fd60$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000a01c61381$ecb2fd60$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA 7 JAN 06 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080904090508040805010803" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080904090508040805010803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My results were similar to Jay's, though at a noisier QTH <g>. The best copy of Jim was around 0330...not much was seen either before or after.


The DRP copy was pretty good from about 0H on. The cleanest shot was taken around 0700:


John Andrews, W1TAG
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relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvF2u-0003Rs-SV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:28:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 60582 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 13:12:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.106.152 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 13:12:52 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:12:32 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c6138c$04aaf620$986a8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> <001201c6137d$2619c2a0$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:12:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Mal, LF Group, Yes, that sounds like it. At your QTH, you are considerably further from Rugby and Lessay than stations in SE England, so I would expect the noise level to be considerably lower than it is here. Also, both stations are in roughly the same direction, approximately south from you, so your loop should do a pretty good job of nulling both Lorans. Here, the bearings differ by about 100degrees, roughly NW and SW, so the more complicated noise-cancelling system that I have mentioned before, that phases together a loop and a vertical to get two "steerable" nulls is needed. This is doing quite a good job for stations in directions from 0 to 180 degrees from here, but of course gives a fair amount of cancellation of any wanted signals arriving from the west. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: hamilton mal To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Moritz" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:26 AM > Subject: LF: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 > > > > Hi Jim. > This past while I have been getting some qrm on 136 especially on my > Vertical antenna being omni, I suspect it must be the Rugby transmitter. I > am getting strong lines spaced at 7.4 hz. It is barely visible on my loop > which is broadside to Rugby and the South. It also sounds like a ckicking > noise. Is this the Rughy qrm that those in the midlands and south are > suffering from? > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:40:52 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvEJQ-00007S-FN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:40:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvEJQ-00006v-7C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:40:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvEJ7-000589-Jc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:40:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvEJ7-000580-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:40:33 +0000 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by 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07 Jan 2006 13:55:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvEWu-0005It-DA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:54:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvEWt-0005Ik-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:54:47 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvFh5-00047B-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:09:43 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter77.comcast.net ([204.127.197.177]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006010713541001400qaglpe>; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:54:21 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter77.comcast.net; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:54:08 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "James Moritz" Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:54:08 +0000 Message-Id: <010720061354.26229.43BFC800000BF22F0000667522007510900B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim, I was curious and decided to Google Brookmans Park. You have probably seen this before but there is a great web site documenting the history of broadcasting at Brookmans park: http://brookmans.com/history/bbc/index.shtml -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "James Moritz" > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > That's basically it - The antenna here is an inverted L with a 40m horizontal > part about 9m average height - at night, I put a 14m telescopic fibreglass mast > under the middle of it, making it into an inverted V shape, and adding roughly > 4dB to the ERP. It has to be in hours of darkness only, otherwise the neigbours > become convinced I am trying to blight the landscape, give them leukaemia, etc. > Strange, considering that this QTH has the masts of Brookmans Park looming over > it, pumping out 400kW of MF night and day, but there you go... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MIKE REID > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:08 AM > Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night > > > Hi Jim, > > Did you wait until it was dark so the neighbors didn't see you crank up the > big tower??? Hi hi... > > Cheers, > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XGI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Moritz > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:33 AM > Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night > > > Dear LF Group, > > The M0BMU beacon shut down at about 0755 this morning - in the daylight, it > became apparent that the aerial wire had got caught up, and as a result was not > at its full height, so ERP would probably have been down by a few dB. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Moritz > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:05 AM > Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... > > > Dear LF Group, > > M0BMU QRV from about 0000utc on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. G3WCB and CT1DRP are > also visible here. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:18:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvFpZ-00032w-FL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:18:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvFpZ-00032P-A0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:18:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvFot-00062E-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:17:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvFos-000625-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:17:26 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvGKW-0005P3-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:50:10 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006010715171711100o0mdfe>; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:17:18 +0000 Message-ID: <43BFDB82.9030705@att.net> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:17:22 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, wolff.h@t-online.de References: <185219546.20060107124404@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <185219546.20060107124404@t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: XKO last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, Nice captures! I can even see the CW ID at the beginning of each letter. The ID is presently running about 10 wpm. I can easily change the speed if you would like something slower. 73, Dex Hartmut Wolff wrote: >Very strong signal of "XKO" last night. I've no audio recordings but >the QRSS3 capture looks like the signal reaches the "audible signal >threshold", much stonger than the nearby Loran lines. >Dex, how fast is the CW-speed at the beginning of each letter? I'll >start running audio recordings of the signal the next night. > >Captures can be seen here: > >http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:47:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvGI1-0005bi-46 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:47:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvGI0-0005ag-TY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:47:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvGHh-0006IX-IZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:47:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvGHh-0006IO-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:47:13 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvHRu-0005Lq-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:02:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 58458 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 15:45:48 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:46:03 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c613a1$777dbfb0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <010720061354.26229.43BFC800000BF22F0000667522007510900B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYTkfSCyqTvdjslTZ+XS3z8iTsSsgAD07sA Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Warren There's some up-to-date pictures here + loads more for the BC TX "anorak"! http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/brookmanspark/index.asp Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ Sent: 07 January 2006 13:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: James Moritz Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night Jim, I was curious and decided to Google Brookmans Park. You have probably seen this before but there is a great web site documenting the history of broadcasting at Brookmans park: http://brookmans.com/history/bbc/index.shtml -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "James Moritz" > Dear Mike, LF Group, > > That's basically it - The antenna here is an inverted L with a 40m > horizontal part about 9m average height - at night, I put a 14m > telescopic fibreglass mast under the middle of it, making it into an > inverted V shape, and adding roughly 4dB to the ERP. It has to be in > hours of darkness only, otherwise the neigbours become convinced I am trying to blight the landscape, give them leukaemia, etc. > Strange, considering that this QTH has the masts of Brookmans Park > looming over it, pumping out 400kW of MF night and day, but there you go... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MIKE REID > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:08 AM > Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night > > > Hi Jim, > > Did you wait until it was dark so the neighbors didn't see you crank > up the big tower??? Hi hi... > > Cheers, > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XGI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Moritz > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:33 AM > Subject: LF: Re: T/A last night > > > Dear LF Group, > > The M0BMU beacon shut down at about 0755 this morning - in the > daylight, it became apparent that the aerial wire had got caught up, > and as a result was not at its full height, so ERP would probably have been down by a few dB. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Moritz > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:05 AM > Subject: LF: Re: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... > > > Dear LF Group, > > M0BMU QRV from about 0000utc on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. G3WCB and > CT1DRP are also visible here. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJVS-0004be-5P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJVR-0004bB-VU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJUi-0007fg-0g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:12:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJUh-0007fN-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:12:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout0151.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.151] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvK0Q-0007FS-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:39 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.11) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BEE88E0000ECA1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:10:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c613be$0a399e20$0be8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: strong Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Strong signals from RA3YO as early as 1730z and now DRP but all in BEACON mode, which is a pity because I am interested in a QSO, it seems QSO'S are not a favourite mode these days for radio amateurs on LF.
I do not see any point in the Beacon mode these days, even in the early days everyone was making an attempt  to have a QSO. Is it any wonder most amateurs are avoiding LF there is no skill involved in listening to the same old thing over and over again, but engineering a QSO is a different story.
If anyone would like a QSO on LF let me know? living in hope probably going back to 1.8 mhz and beyond.
 
Room for thought.
de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJVS-0003Et-Im for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJVS-0003Ec-Ep for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:13:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJUh-0007fZ-SF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:12:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJUh-0007fM-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:12:51 +0000 Received: from smtpout0151.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.151] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvK0Q-0007FR-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:39 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.11) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BEE88E0000ECA4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:10:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c613be$0b8027e0$0be8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c60f2a$57d5a4a0$80648351@w4o8m9> <002801c60f9c$88e40ec0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000a01c60fb3$dd8ce980$cce4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001b01c60fc1$c1f37320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c60ffc$48c541a0$92198351@w4o8m9> <001201c6137d$2619c2a0$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <001f01c6138c$04aaf620$986a8351@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:10:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA 2 JAN 06 > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Yes, that sounds like it. At your QTH, you are considerably further from > Rugby and Lessay than stations in SE England, so I would expect the noise > level to be considerably lower than it is here. Also, both stations are in > roughly the same direction, approximately south from you, so your loop > should do a pretty good job of nulling both Lorans. Here, the bearings > differ by about 100degrees, roughly NW and SW, so the more complicated > noise-cancelling system that I have mentioned before, that phases together a > loop and a vertical to get two "steerable" nulls is needed. This is doing > quite a good job for stations in directions from 0 to 180 degrees from here, > but of course gives a fair amount of cancellation of any wanted signals > arriving from the west. > > > Tnx Jim. I can understand the problems some are having nearer RUGBY. If this continues it might render 137 khz unworkable. I also notice other HF bands are suffering qrm from pulse type transmissions, perhaps the days of LF-HF are numbered and time to shift to the VHF/UHF bands and Satellite communications. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:30:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJli-00025j-62 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:30:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvJli-000259-1X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:30:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJlI-0007vo-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:30:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvJlH-0007va-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:59 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvKH0-0007OL-Jt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:02:48 +0000 Received: from mk-ftp-1.b2b.uk.tiscali.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.74.112.85]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2006 19:28:51 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CALOhv0OHSAEBAQIGBAYl Received: from mk-ftp-1.b2b.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.112.85]:2114) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EvJkB-000GmV-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:28:51 +0000 Received: from [80.47.85.27] (helo=thersgb.net) by mk-ftp-1.b2b.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1EvJk9-0007TQ-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:27:11 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "J. Alan Lowe" References: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> <002001c612f2$24af6d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> <43BED4B9.3000204@hifidelity.com> In-Reply-To: <43BED4B9.3000204@hifidelity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.03-U () Subject: Re: LF: The bells, the bells! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Andy and Steve, You can listen to a simulation of "The Bells" (HiFix) from the following web page. Click on the "Click Here" link about two thirds of the way down the page. The site describes this type of system in some detail. http://www.alancordwell.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nav/hifix/hifixsystdesc.html 73, Alan G3XZX In message <43BED4B9.3000204@hifidelity.com>, Steve Dove writes >Hi Andy, et al, > >Yeah, "The Bells" were within a few kHz of 1900kHz, although >occasionally you could find one higher or lower. There were some down >around 1750-ish, too. They were Decca variants, harbour- or >estuary-wide in scope, called 'HiFix', and latterly 'Hyperfix'. Same >idea, a master pulse, then repeated (3? 4?) slave pulses slightly off >frequency. A cluster of them together was indeed melodious. When I >first had a decent topband setup here, 20 years ago, I could hear a >chain around 1900 as well, probably Baltimore harbour or Philadelphia >dockyards. > >I too first tasted hambone flesh on topband in the sixties; the >unbelievably lethal contraptions hammer-and-nailed together to make >(what we could only hope was) 10W would give me heart attack if either >of my kids did the same today. (Like messing with fireworks - it's >amazing any of us are still alive and fully limbed, really.) Dad's >prized Leak hifi amp 'borrowed' as a modulator. Wires all over - it >was wonderful. And, yes Alan, working one's first OK on topband was a >rite of passage; a rosy glow of super-being-dom for days afterwards! > >In deepest, darkest Henley-on-Thames, Loran daytime clobbered say >1930-1970-ish kHz; there were two chains audible simultaneously, hence >the cyclical 'phasing' sound between them. Night-time, another bunch >appeared centred on 1850. Fancifully we presumed it was an >American/Canadian chain, but the probable reality was that it was from >the top end of Scotland or such. Never had the presence of mind to >record Loran (or The Bells), which considering the radio 'junk' and the >recording 'junk' cohabited the same space and were to an unpracticed >eye one-and-the-same 'junk', was a sad oversight. > >It would be intriguing to find out where those Loran 'A' sites were. >And here we are waiting fingers crossed for Loran 'C' to go away. >Trouble is, what'll we do for easy calibration, then? And will I have >the presence of mind to record IT before it goes . . . > > Cheers, > > Steve G3YDV in a former life > > >Andy Talbot wrote: > >> When I used to listen 30 years ago on AM in a wide(ish) bandwidth at >>= >> ~1900kHz, it sounded like a bell jangling > > -- J. Alan Lowe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:54:05 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvK8a-0005TJ-OW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:54:05 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvK8a-0005TC-JY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:54:04 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvK8I-00087P-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:53:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvK8I-00087G-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:53:46 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvKe1-0007X1-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:26:35 +0000 Received: from 88-106-187-159.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.187.159]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2006 19:53:31 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CAL2ov0OHSAE Received: from 88-106-187-159.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.187.159]:2162 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EvK52-0001vJ-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:50:24 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:54:28 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: LF: The bells, the bells! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Alan & LF, YEP! Thats the melodious noise I referred to in an earlier e-mail. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- Hi Andy and Steve, You can listen to a simulation of "The Bells" (HiFix) from the following web page. Click on the "Click Here" link about two thirds of the way down the page. The site describes this type of system in some detail. http://www.alancordwell.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nav/hifix/hifixsystdesc.html 73, Alan G3XZX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:20:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvMPm-0001lq-Ta for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:20:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvMPm-0001kg-Hg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:19:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvMP2-0000kn-HZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:19:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvMP2-0000ke-6a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:19:12 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvNZN-00021d-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:34:15 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvMOj-0007se-00; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:18:53 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Gh3tbaZHgeG4kkVv+WjkX0lOlbP7M8xy85jCEZCx54F6WnwoCQq5ZP@[84.133.96.157]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvMOh-1nl0Mq0; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:18:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:18:49 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <935980747.20060107231849@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Gh3tbaZHgeG4kkVv+WjkX0lOlbP7M8xy85jCEZCx54F6WnwoCQq5ZP X-TOI-MSGID: 13f22f0c-cb3a-45d9-bfab-87243721600d Subject: LF: OH1TN and S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Saw OH1TN and S57A calling in the past minutes. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:23:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvMSk-0003BV-Ae for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:23:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvMSj-00038M-Vt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:23:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvMSc-0000po-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:22:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvMSb-0000pf-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:22:54 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvMyO-00009I-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:55:46 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010722223801500dv0gde>; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:22:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c613d8$e14384c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:22:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020205010907090600090703" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020205010907090600090703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
DRP off to a great start tonight. Conditions seem good and there's little to no static...at the moment.
 
 
Jay, W1VD
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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:15:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvNHn-0004yU-RE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:15:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvNHn-0004xW-Nk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:15:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvNH2-0001KY-6B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:15:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvNH1-0001KP-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:14:59 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvORP-0002Sa-P3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:30:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 44196 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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.66.218 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 23:14:37 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:14:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c613e0$14a81680$da427ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c613d8$e14384c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:14:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU now (2305utc) QRV in beacon mode, 136.3175k, QRSS30, hopefully with the antenna up straight this time! Also visible are good sigs from CT1DRP, and I think G3WCB. RA3YO was visible here about 2100utc, but I can't see him at present.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:16:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvNIK-0005ow-Nr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:16:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvNIK-0005o3-Ig for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:16:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvNI8-0001Lq-0P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:16:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvNI7-0001Lg-Kf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:16:07 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvOSV-0002T6-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:31:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 35878 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2006 23:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.157.226 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2006 23:15:45 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:16:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA - WCB QRV 136.320 tonight... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF,  
 
G3WCB is QRV  again tonight, 136.320 kHz, 1 8 0W RF, 1. 9  amps antenna current..I/D "WCB" QRSS 60 from 2300z until 0800z   
 
Bit of trouble with wet snow last night...came down this morning to see steam coming from the feed-through insulator... 
 
 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM 

 

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:26:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvOO1-0007Gx-1h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:26:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvOO0-0007GL-Nm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:26:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvONQ-00022q-HW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:25:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvONP-00022h-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:25:39 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvOtF-0000uZ-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:58:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 47352 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2006 00:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.132.157.226 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2006 00:24:32 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:25:32 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001501c613e0$14a81680$da427ad5@w4o8m9> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA - G3AQC et al... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050009000900070309080808" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050009000900070309080808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Good picture of Laurie's TA signal on the W3EEE grabber at 0020 utc tonight.
 
73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
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> there is no skill involved in listening to the same old thing over and over again
 
Or reading it, ironically enough.  :-)
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:28:11 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvPLu-0006tz-FM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:28:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvPLu-0006sX-7o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:28:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvPLJ-0002X6-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:27:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvPLI-0002Wx-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:27:32 +0000 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvQVj-0003s6-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 02:42:39 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.2db.7208a3 (3924) for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <2db.7208a3.30f1c46a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:27:06 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 Subject: Re: LF: strong Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:14:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, g3kev.ham@virgin.net writes:
there is no skill involved in listening to the same old thing over and over again,
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:14:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvVgq-0000DS-2h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:14:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvVgp-0000D7-UP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:14:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvVg2-0006rT-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:13:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvVg2-0006rK-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:13:22 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvWqZ-0005IO-Ll for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:28:35 +0000 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with SMTP id <20060108081249.FTTJ2991.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:12:49 -0700 Message-ID: <003a01c6142b$6470c860$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:13:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL QSY DFCW ~136319Hz Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
As one can't see a darn thing on W3EEE's part 5 plot do to excessive CW use in the watering hole I've QSY'd to the EU DX window.
 
I'm presently on ~136319Hz with DFCW and will remain there unless asked to QSY.  Once I get the sinewave computer going again I'll return to sine mode... 
 
73 Scott
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:39:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvXx3-0001mO-17 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:39:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvXx2-0001mB-Iv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:39:04 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvXwR-0007qO-VN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:38:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvXwR-0007qF-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:38:27 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvZ71-000637-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:42 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-187-228.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.187.228] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k08AZomr014213 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:35:51 GMT Message-ID: <000801c6143f$52490490$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:35:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
XDW very strong here 0700 audible without using Speclab!
Did not hear or see any others.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:47:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ1I-0002VK-Vc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:47:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ1I-0002R7-QO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:47:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ0S-0008RA-RA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:46:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ0S-0008R1-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:46:40 +0000 Received: from smtpout0178.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.178] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvaB3-0006fT-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:01:56 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.51) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BEE88E00017C5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:46:18 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c61449$175bd420$33d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:33:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: 136 acty Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Lots of CW acty this morning on 136.
Worked DL2HRE, DL4EAU, DK4U (DF0WD) and F6BWO all good signals. There is still a lot of countries missing compared to a few years ago, things might improve this year hopefully.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:48:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ2E-00050c-Gj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:48:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ2E-0004zP-Da for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:48:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ1y-0008Sr-R5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:48:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ1y-0008Si-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:48:14 +0000 Received: from smtpout0180.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.180] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvZY1-0004kO-K7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:21:23 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.51) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BEE88E00017C60 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:46:20 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c61449$18b326c0$33d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002801c613a1$777dbfb0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:45:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: T/A last night > Warren > > There's some up-to-date pictures here + loads more for the BC TX "anorak"! > > http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/brookmanspark/index.asp > > Dave G3YXM > Hello Dave. Was wondering if you were still about. Not heard you on any band for a long time. I thought you might have been /P over the new year from New Galloway, its a long time since I had a qso with Scotland. I was past Galloway recently, just before Xmas on my way to and from Cairnryan to Ireland. Some places that you and others visited in the past /P need to be revisited for some excitement and CW acty. How about the Algarve/Portugal its nice at this time of year and I need it on CW hi HNY and hope to work you again soon on LF. I am getting the Rugby qrm on my vertical, its a problem but I can work with it at this distance. My loop is optimum E/W so nulls out anything to the South and North including other radio amateurs. De Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ7L-0008SY-Az for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZ7L-0008SK-7Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ79-0000A8-65 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZ78-00009z-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:53:34 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvaHf-0006l6-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:08:51 +0000 Received: from [212.248.140.5] ([212.248.140.5]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k08BuNoT017334 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:56:24 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:52:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c6144a$106619e0$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:52:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: Re: LF: The bells, the bells! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I seem to remember it sounding even more melodious that when listening on AM - as I did then to the local amateurs net in the Birmingahm area. I presumably received an amorphous mass of several of these transmissions at slightly different frequencies and times. Or at least with their sync and main tones desynchronised in time. I vaguely recall thinking it sounded a lot more boring on a local amateur's SSB rig than it did on my homebrew Rx. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: RE: LF: The bells, the bells! > Hi Alan & LF, > > YEP! Thats the melodious noise I referred to in an earlier e-mail. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > -----Original Message----- > > Hi Andy and Steve, > > You can listen to a simulation of "The Bells" (HiFix) from the following > web page. Click on the "Click Here" link about two thirds of the way > down the page. The site describes this type of system in some detail. > > http://www.alancordwell.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nav/hifix/hifixsystdesc.html > > 73, Alan G3XZX > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 2006-01-06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 2006-01-06 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:06:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZJQ-0002t9-HN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:06:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZJQ-0002t1-Cm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:06:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZJB-0000MQ-Ta for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:06:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZJB-0000MH-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:06:01 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvZpF-0004sH-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:39:11 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvZJ7-000866-09; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:05:57 +0100 Received: from HW1 (rAVGCkZYweASwWrt-OfHCjQIQVkJ3mhibDCgE8KZDMnlC8xI2rhVZ9@[84.133.124.214]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvZJ1-1ghEVU0; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:05:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:05:50 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1903156021.20060108130550@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rAVGCkZYweASwWrt-OfHCjQIQVkJ3mhibDCgE8KZDMnlC8xI2rhVZ9 X-TOI-MSGID: 8e3141bc-f883-4e44-8413-c311acff8e4c Subject: LF: TA Jan, 7/8th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured VO1NA only until 21:30 UTC. During the 21:00-21:30 segment the frequency jumped 30mHz higher. Probably off after 21:30. WD2XKO best signal 05:30-07:45, but not so strong as the past night. About 02:45-02:55 appeared a long dash on 137.779, John, was probably testing conditions. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:34:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZkx-0008Og-MD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:34:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvZkx-0008OV-Hu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:34:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZkX-0000fS-5i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:34:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvZkW-0000fJ-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:34:16 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvaGa-0004yh-V7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:07:26 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006010812333001400sdt3fe>; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:33:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c6144f$bb80f340$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1903156021.20060108130550@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 07:33:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 8 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Almost no static and good signal levels throughout the night. Captures here: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Possible sign of RA3YO early. Unfortunately, nothing difinitive from G3WCB. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:03:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvaCq-0004NW-4l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:03:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvaCp-0004Mz-Vd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:03:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvaCF-0000yM-DM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:02:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvaCE-0000yD-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:02:54 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvaiI-00058c-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:36:05 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k08CxqgF029971 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 07:59:52 -0500 Received: from server (dial-80.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.80]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k08D1d4B001803 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:01:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005101c61453$a2d8dc00$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c613d8$e14384c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:58:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: TA overnite Jan 7-8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello LFers,
 
Only traces of signals seen here, during a brief period around 01:30 UTC.
Fragments of what likely was G3AQC and M0BMU showed up for a bit,
but oddly no sign of CT1DRP.  Will watch again tonite.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
EN93dr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:07:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evc91-0004Op-O5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:07:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evc91-0004Oi-Jz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:07:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evc85-0001wF-5q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:06:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evc84-0001w6-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:06:44 +0000 Received: from smtpout0139.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.139] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvceD-0005gO-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:39:58 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.60) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43BC2128000549FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:06:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:05:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
DK7KO in beacon mode 137.0 khz. Good signal. Try a CQ for a report there is a lot of acty around the freq.
Hrd PA3EGO, M0BMU, G3KEV and other DL stations.
de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:31:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvcVi-00010v-V5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:31:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvcVi-000100-Jv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:31:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvcVL-0002Ey-Sc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:30:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvcVL-0002Ep-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:30:47 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evd1U-0005s1-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:04:01 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvcUL-0000dj-05; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:29:45 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GWIbY-ZVgeDs1jonNbW7rW99HbEgX8pZ9ivGnHMgZ54S5RDxJir98b@[84.133.124.214]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvcUH-1pb7fE0; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:29:41 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:29:39 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de> To: hamilton mal In-Reply-To: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> References: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GWIbY-ZVgeDs1jonNbW7rW99HbEgX8pZ9ivGnHMgZ54S5RDxJir98b X-TOI-MSGID: b0ef7a53-4c82-4559-b26c-3bd85aab0248 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > DK7KO in beacon mode 137.0 khz. Good signal. Try a CQ for a report > there is a lot of acty around the freq. DK7KO must be new on LF. Not seen here today. A RU station was calling on 137.700 a few minutes ago. But could not get the full call because DJ6GT is testing his QRSS exactly on the same frequency. He was testing the past week every day for some hours. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:40:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvceM-0004es-N0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:40:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvceM-0004e4-Db for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:40:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evce7-0002KU-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:39:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evce6-0002KL-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:39:50 +0000 Received: from rks33.urz.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.163] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evdoh-0008J9-HA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:55:10 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1Evcck-00043D-DD; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:38:26 +0100 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rks33 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22874-31 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:38:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from [141.30.60.75] (helo=relict.urz.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.51) for id 1Evccj-00042U-OF; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:38:25 +0100 Received: by relict.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/06Dec99-1150AM) id QAA0000004611; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:38:24 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <20060108163824.A4497@relict.urz.tu-dresden.de> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:38:24 +0100 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de>; from Hartmut Wolff on Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:29:39PM +0100 X-Beer: Jever X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on rks33 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de Subject: Re: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:29:39PM +0100, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > > DK7KO in beacon mode 137.0 khz. Good signal. Try a CQ for a report > > there is a lot of acty around the freq. > > DK7KO must be new on LF. Not seen here today. He has been on LF for quite a while, but only beaconing. I listened to his beacon some time in 2001, when it also included a telephone number for reports. I called him via landline and we chatted for a while, but he didn't seem to be interested in QSOs at all. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ (QRT on LF since QTH change in 2003, but hoping to get back soon) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:30:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvfJQ-0001wE-EB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:30:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvfJQ-0001w3-AD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:30:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfIZ-0003qg-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:29:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfIY-0003qX-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:29:47 +0000 Received: from mx2.magma.ca ([206.191.0.250]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evfol-0006xr-KI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:03:04 +0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.214]) by mx2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k08IThCD007661 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:29:44 -0500 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-99.nrtco.net [216.168.120.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k08ITeGE018084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:29:42 -0500 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20060108132426.01c399a8@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:29:40 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <001501c613e0$14a81680$da427ad5@w4o8m9> References: <000c01c613d8$e14384c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001501c613e0$14a81680$da427ad5@w4o8m9> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070901070507080201060708" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070901070507080201060708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 06:14 PM 1/7/2006, Jim wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >M0BMU now (2305utc) QRV in beacon mode, 136.3175k, QRSS30, hopefully >with the antenna up straight this time! Here's a snap taken at 0507z showing AQC (799.5), DRP (798), M0BMU (797.5) - It takes quite a long time to send M0BMU, so don't have any complete ident all in one go, but the various pieces were all clearly received at one time or another. 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Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:42:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvfVD-0007wG-FG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:42:51 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfV0-000436-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:42:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfUz-00042x-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:42:37 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evg1C-00072C-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:15:55 +0000 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1EvfUu-0007zM-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:42:32 +0100 Received: from p5486bb14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.187.20] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #8) id 1EvfUu-0007v0-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:42:32 +0100 Message-ID: <43C15D1D.9060001@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:42:37 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Hartmut, it was RU6LA who had a cracking signal in North DL - audible and almost as strong as M0BMU (who, besides some others, worked Ed). About DK7KO : He's on for some years now, but only sends endless beacon loops in normal CW near 137 kHz. Fortunately he doesn't do this on 136.5 kHz (which was the famous "Ropex" frequency in the past). He rarely makes real QSO, instead wants to receive reports via telephone. 73, Wolf DL4YHF (thanks to the amazing number of stations I could work from DK4U today, most of them being on the reflector) Hartmut Wolff schrieb: >>DK7KO in beacon mode 137.0 khz. Good signal. Try a CQ for a report >>there is a lot of acty around the freq. >> >> > > DK7KO must be new on LF. Not seen here today. > > A RU station was calling on 137.700 a few minutes ago. But could not > get the full call because DJ6GT is testing his QRSS exactly on the > same frequency. He was testing the past week every day for some > hours. > > Hartmut > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:06:10 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfrl-0002mg-K4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:06:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfrl-0002lD-Fp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:06:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfrR-0004Gl-6H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:05:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfrQ-0004Gc-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:05:48 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvgNe-0007Ao-04 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:39:07 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.232.4ddd532 (48552) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:05:39 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <232.4ddd532.30f2bc82@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:05:38 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Grabber Archive on CD Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF Group,

in more than a year of directional screen grabber operation, several gigabytes of screen shots have been uploaded and saved to disk locally. A good time to say THANK YOU once more to Wolfgang, DL4YHF, who made all this work possible by creating and continously improving his excellent SpecLab software, and adding all the necessary ingredients to it.

I am currently preparing an archive on CD consisting of 375 bitmap images, in a one-pic-per-day format showing the full band at one minute per pixel. Too slow to read standard QRSS of course, but nice for browsing through daily variations of activity, propagation and noise. The total amount of zipped data is currently about 560 MB - far too much to upload to my website, but I will be pleased to mail a copy to anyone seriously interested at no cost. Please send requests by direct email, including your postal adress.

There will also be a second CD containing full resolution narrowband TA-and EU grabs, giving more or less complete nighttime coverage including the Eu-ZL activity last spring.

73, and all the best for 2006

Markus, DF6NM
http://members.aol.com/df6nm
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:07:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfsw-0007OA-FP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:07:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfsw-0007Nr-AA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:07:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evfsp-0004KN-R0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:07:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evfsp-0004KB-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:07:15 +0000 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvgP0-0007BZ-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:40:33 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.19e.4323146a (48552) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:07:04 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <19e.4323146a.30f2bcd8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:07:04 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: DCF-42 gone Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Group,

as had been announced previously, the wideband DGPS station DCF-42 in Mainflingen (122.5 kHz USB) went off air on Jan 2nd. At 7:01 UT, the DCF49/DCF42 transmitter intermoduation products (135.36 and 136.5475 kHz) disappeared from my screen.

This should have improved the LF noise floor in the Rhein-Main area quite significantly - did anyone notice a change?

Regards

Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfuc-0003Ey-MQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfuc-0003Em-JI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfuZ-0004Q9-5K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfuY-0004Pw-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:02 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvgQm-0007Db-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:42:21 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvfuW-0000uE-03; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:09:00 +0100 Received: from HW1 (VsOefuZeZeTRRQQDQk-8of2I5yN5wjdOmYfF36rSX+4XGmYwl2AHEc@[84.133.124.214]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvfuJ-1ncTqq0; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:08:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:08:46 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17110120225.20060108200846@t-online.de> To: Wolf DL4YHF In-Reply-To: <43C15D1D.9060001@freenet.de> References: <000c01c61465$10909100$3ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> <153285202.20060108162939@t-online.de> <43C15D1D.9060001@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VsOefuZeZeTRRQQDQk-8of2I5yN5wjdOmYfF36rSX+4XGmYwl2AHEc X-TOI-MSGID: 52d8c38a-1a42-4abc-84fb-015a3119dba6 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Fabian and Wolf, now I remember my early LF days (Feb 2004), there was a guy on 137.0 who was beaconing and wants a report via telephone and I called him. But I didn't remember the callsign. Thanks! Yes, RU6LA was strong here, too. Saw all the QSO's. Will make reports with screenshots on my website, later the day. 73 Hartmut > Hello Hartmut, > it was RU6LA who had a cracking signal in North DL - audible and almost > as strong as M0BMU (who, besides some others, worked Ed). > About DK7KO : He's on for some years now, but only sends endless beacon > loops in normal CW near 137 kHz. Fortunately he doesn't do this on 136.5 > kHz (which was the famous "Ropex" frequency in the past). He rarely > makes real QSO, instead wants to receive reports via telephone. > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (thanks to the amazing number of stations I could work from DK4U today, > most of them being on the reflector) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfud-00029o-C2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evfud-00028i-8R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfuW-0004Pl-Dc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvfuW-0004Pc-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:00 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvgQh-0007DQ-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:42:18 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.65.53aac3d2 (48552) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:08:45 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <65.53aac3d2.30f2bd3c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:08:44 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Another PSK Modulator Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF Group,

anyone in need of a simple, clean and stable PSK modulator, driven by any old DOS PC without a soundcard? Look at

http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/SerPSK.zip (141kB)

for a description and a software (including Basic source) which sends dithered bit patterns to the RS232 data line, feeding a balanced modulator and linear PA through a crude R-C lowpass. This solution has worked successfully at the DI2AG beacon for some time last year.

Happy experimenting

Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:24:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evh60-0006xL-PE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:24:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evh60-0006wj-Il for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:24:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evh5J-0005Fl-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:24:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evh5I-0005Fc-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:24:12 +0000 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvhbW-0007Xb-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:57:32 +0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so1204758wra for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uLO97ZKggrM8p8pcP5dU76Em9w2CxKEOL8FCdF8koL8lJdDNwoFL2SGcdoTwcSLcnp5687wZVauC1B4p5DID5CwOhbdYCjt99DwWibcYOgA55v3d6FoMcuG22ZAa3h+QoxikjSVyIBlVjaEVdsQo/tYdYf4nEJHEt5R4LAc/MVY= Received: by 10.65.122.5 with SMTP id z5mr778566qbm; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.251.4 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:23:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:23:07 +0000 From: lawrence mayhead To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA Tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks for all the reports , I hope my transmissions have seved a useful purpose.
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73 Laurie
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:56:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvhaF-0001Wy-QH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:56:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvhaF-0001VU-HK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:56:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvhZt-0005aY-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:55:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvhZs-0005aP-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:55:48 +0000 Received: from smtp07.web.de ([217.72.192.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evikb-0002hj-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:11:13 +0000 Received: from [217.84.176.254] (helo=arbeits-pc) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.105 #340) id 1EvhZV-0006w1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:55:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:55:22 +0100 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <443591625.20060108215522@web.de> To: rsgb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de Subject: LF: New 2006 ENDBH & NANDBH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080306080707080909090806" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080306080707080909090806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, For those of you that like to tune the NDB bands from time to time I'd like to announce that the ENDBH & NANDBH handbooks and CDs are now available in their 2006 edition. 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<004f01c61497$5caa4e00$15668656@Beast> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcYUl1lerKbWPeVoTyqTyUxcx+Bjqg== Subject: LF: Software for TA Tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi Laurie,

 

Just out of interest…which software do you use to generate/decode the DFCW signal?

 

Cheers

 

Chris (locator: IO91kw)

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:07:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvhlV-0002NW-FI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:07:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvhlV-0002Mz-8b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:07:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvhlD-0005nv-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:07:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvhlC-0005nc-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:07:30 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EviHR-0007jQ-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:40:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 30416 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2006 21:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Beast) (airguzzler@btinternet.com@86.134.102.21 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2006 21:07:21 -0000 From: "Chris" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:07:12 -0000 Message-ID: <005401c61497$7ffa5fd0$15668656@Beast> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcYUl35ID77og4U1Sb+LVKyXclvTqQ== Subject: LF: Re: Strange Signals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi Jim (M0BMU),

 

Thanks for your reply via this group on Friday. These Datatrak beacons are really strange sounding signals aren’t they? I imagine that there must be some form of encryption on the signal for fear of the vehicle being tracked and hijacked. But thanks for the clarification. These signals are very strong here in Oxfordshire, UK. Are these signals actually from beacons onboard vehicles or are they some form of command/control telemetry signal from a ground station to the beacons?

 

I would love to listen to you guys CQ on 136-137kHz but I’m using a long-wire and an AOR 7030 at the moment and my location is only 33 miles South of Rugby, hence, I’m getting hammered by the BT trials!!! Does anyone have any idea as to how long the trials will last?

 

Incidentally, I am in the process of looking at various LF loop designs with a view to erecting one but I think it’ll be weeks yet before I can build anything. I’m clean out of free-time at the moment. Until then, BT wins I’m afraid…I can’t wait to null him out!

 

Cheers

 

Chris (locator: IO91kw)

 

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:58:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EviYT-0006Wh-VI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:58:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EviYT-0006WR-RV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:58:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EviXp-0006Iy-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:57:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EviXp-0006Ip-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:57:45 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evj44-0007w3-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:31:07 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1EviXl-0005e1-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:57:41 +0100 Received: from p5486bb14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.187.20] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #8) id 1EviXl-0005G2-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <43C18AE2.2010008@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:57:54 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: G3YXM Grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Greetings Dave, Ed, and the Group, This afternoon, when there was a bunch of activity around 137.7 kHz, I noticed that the G3YXM Grabber went kind of QRT. It happened while, or shortly after, M0BMU's contact with Ed RU6LA. After that, only traces of what may have been Jim's signal made it through, but no signs of the Rugby QRM anymore. Preamp blown ? ;-) Besides this, RU6LA is still active, as can be seen on DF6NM's grabber (tnx Markus !) despite the QRN which built up in the early evening. To Ed: Thanks for the nice contact - were you operating from Machta (KN97LN) today ? The signal was simply bombastic, so I hope you will get some TA reports. While Dave's grabber was still operative, your signal was "o" copy there. 73, Wolf DL4YHF ( DK4U, DF0WD, JO42FD) . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:54:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvkMs-0002eR-QW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:54:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvkMs-0002eK-Mo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:54:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvkM5-0006WR-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:53:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvkM5-0006WI-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:53:45 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvlWq-0004My-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 01:09:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 55381 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2006 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.118.12?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.118.12 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2006 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.15/223]); Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:51:51 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:51:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU is now (2345utc) running in beacon mode as usual on 136.3175kHz, QRSS30. A couple of other stations are also QRV.
 
RU6LA was a very good signal here this evening - RST449 a couple of hours ago, in spite of the heavy QRN. I tried calling Ed in CW, but it seems my signal wasn't that strong at Ed's end.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:35:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evnoc-0006JB-IG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:35:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evnoc-0006IT-4t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:35:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evnnu-0006on-L7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:34:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evnnt-0006oe-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:34:42 +0000 Received: from bay102-f18.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.28] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvoKI-0000u2-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:08:11 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:34:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:34:38 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2006 03:34:38.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E694C70:01C614CD] Subject: RE: LF: TA Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Part ID here this evening into Oklahoma Laurie - reviewing past 4 days captures as weve bin in OK, KS, AS, MO, and TX looking for furntiure (!) Laurence em26aq >From: lawrence mayhead >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb >Subject: LF: TA Tonight >Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:23:07 +0000 > >Thanks for all the reports , I hope my transmissions have seved a useful >purpose. >Tonight for a change I will tranmit DFCW, my full callsign using 40 sec. >elements >centered on 319.5 with 0.25Hz shift. Starting 2300 UTC >73 Laurie From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evns0-0001zX-MY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evns0-0001yn-I0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evnrn-0006sD-Ul for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evnrn-0006s4-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:43 +0000 Received: from bay102-f5.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.15] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvoOB-0000vw-QM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:12:12 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:38:40 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000801c6143f$52490490$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:38:40 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2006 03:38:40.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E9BAA90:01C614CE] Subject: RE: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Not me Walter unless an (a) LDE. - Ive been tending the Interstate highways for the past 4 days. Laurence XDW em26aq >From: "Walter Blanchard" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: TA >Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:35:57 -0000 > >XDW very strong here 0700 audible without using Speclab! >Did not hear or see any others. > >Walter G3JKV. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:44:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evqlj-0002A2-6v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:44:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evqli-00028V-Og for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:44:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evqkx-0007F0-15 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:43:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evqkw-0007Er-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:43:50 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evrvp-0007wo-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:59:25 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Evqji-0003zX-01; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:42:34 +0100 Received: from dl4eau (VreTiOZBweNUP72NewojeBcgAcZZTp1AybNpshyAGhQeiLc2icP7c2@[217.245.116.9]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EvqjW-0Pqb200; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:42:22 +0100 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:42:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: VreTiOZBweNUP72NewojeBcgAcZZTp1AybNpshyAGhQeiLc2icP7c2 X-TOI-MSGID: 9814c00c-c124-4b83-aa6d-de0c3ee1662b Subject: LF: LF List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gm Lf's how can I get a list of all members of the rsgb_lf_group ? 73' Tom DL4EAU -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Im Auftrag von Laurence KL1X Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2006 04:39 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: RE: LF: TA Not me Walter unless an (a) LDE. - Ive been tending the Interstate highways for the past 4 days. Laurence XDW em26aq >From: "Walter Blanchard" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: TA >Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:35:57 -0000 > >XDW very strong here 0700 audible without using Speclab! >Did not hear or see any others. > >Walter G3JKV. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:35:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvvIt-0002Mn-2J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:35:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvvIs-0002JT-8t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:35:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvvHy-0007Zk-Jx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:34:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvvHx-0007Zb-KY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:34:13 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvvoU-0004Tc-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:07:52 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010911332301500dvqqve>; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:33:23 +0000 Message-ID: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:33:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 9 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static but signal levels not as spectacular as the night before. AQC, DRP, BMU and WX in most of the night. Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:50:52 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvvY4-0003xm-1f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:50:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvvY3-0003x5-Tu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:50:51 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvvXU-0007fw-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:50:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvvXT-0007fn-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:50:15 +0000 Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de ([81.169.145.166]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvwiS-00038E-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:05:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p5486775C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.119.92]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k09BnsAT013612 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:49:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <43C24E1C.5050609@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:50:52 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay, how much power did you use last night? Only traces here about 23:00-00:30 UTC on 137.781. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:25:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evw5V-0008LW-6J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:25:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evw5O-0008Iq-7d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:25:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evw57-0007ot-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:25:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evw56-0007oi-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:25:00 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evwbg-0004wT-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:58:41 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006010912241501400qabf8e>; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:24:15 +0000 Message-ID: <005f01c61517$9b2a2760$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C24E1C.5050609@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:24:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut Power level varied widely over that time frame - anywhere from 10 watts to brief periods of 250 watts as the system is still udergoing initial testing. Shut down at 0030Z in favor of receiving TA signals. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 JAN 06 > > Jay, > how much power did you use last night? Only traces here about > 23:00-00:30 UTC on 137.781. > > Hartmut > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:09:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evwlk-0001uM-5H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:09:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evwlj-0001my-SP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:09:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Evwkv-0007xk-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:08:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Evwkv-0007xb-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:08:13 +0000 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com ([206.191.0.217]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvxHV-00059Q-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:41:54 +0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.214]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09D7AWN031641 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:07:11 -0500 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-99.nrtco.net [216.168.120.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09D77pX013612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:07:10 -0500 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:07:06 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Good signals here last night from DRP, G3AQC and M0BMU. Looks like Laurie's DFCW works better than QRSS, and the speed is about right. Got the whole ident nicely. Bill VE2IQ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:48:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvxNi-0000TV-I4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:48:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvxNh-0000ST-Oh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:48:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvxNO-00087C-3M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:47:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvxNN-000873-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:47:57 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvyYM-0004RM-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:03:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 95533 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2006 13:46:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.39.47 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2006 13:46:32 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c61523$1888e060$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:45:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: LF List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom, I have not used the help file for a while. I seem to remember it does define a "LIST" command but I believe for obvious reasons this is not enabled. At least, it did not respond to me Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Eckart To: Sent: 09 January 2006 06:42 Subject: LF: LF List > Gm Lf's > > how can I get a list of all members of the rsgb_lf_group ? > > 73' Tom DL4EAU > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Im Auftrag von Laurence KL1X > Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2006 04:39 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: RE: LF: TA > > > Not me Walter unless an (a) LDE. - Ive been tending the Interstate highways > for the past 4 days. > > Laurence XDW > em26aq > > > > >From: "Walter Blanchard" > >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >To: > >Subject: LF: TA > >Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:35:57 -0000 > > > >XDW very strong here 0700 audible without using Speclab! > >Did not hear or see any others. > > > >Walter G3JKV. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:59:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvxYj-0005oB-N4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:59:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvxYj-0005mk-6x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:59:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvxYS-0008DT-1p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:59:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvxYR-0008DK-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:59:23 +0000 Received: from mxout01.versatel.de ([212.7.152.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EvyjO-0004ce-2I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:15:05 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx03.versatel.de [212.7.146.3]) by mxout01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k09Dx3QR011800 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:03 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k09Dx0L8013582 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:00 +0100 Received: from i577a68fe.versanet.de (i577a68fe.versanet.de [87.122.104.254]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:00 +0100 Message-ID: <20060109145900.luxtuuusm5i8cwkg@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:00 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: TA 9 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Jay Rusgrove : > Low static but signal levels not as spectacular as the night before. > AQC, DRP, BMU and WX in most of the night. Captures: > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD > > > Hi Jay, thanks for the report / the image. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:08:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evyd7-0001hq-CY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:08:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Evyd7-0001hM-8Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:08:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvycO-0008PV-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:07:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvycO-0008PM-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:07:32 +0000 Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.23.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Evz90-00062e-P6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:41:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0E4807000116 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:07:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-2-211.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.133.211]) by mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2BB5B700010C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:07:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060109150714179.2BB5B700010C@mwinf1409.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200601091607080165.00437105@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <002401c612f0$3ea835a0$67b0fea9@lark> References: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> <002401c612f0$3ea835a0$67b0fea9@lark> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:07:08 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[4]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The other reason for a dearth of international activity on top band 40 years ago was that much of the USA did not have a top band allocation. I can't be specific as my copy of the ARRL handbook for the era has disappeared. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 06/01/2006 at 18:37 Alan Melia wrote: >Hi John what a difference, in the UK top band was the 2m of its day. >Whilst there were a few the DXers, it was used a lot for local chatting >(AM of course) and inter-G activity. The only other country in Europe >licenced for it them was OK. We were limited to 10watts DC input in the >late 50s and 60s.....great fun....easy construction (well compared with >2m) ..... I learned a lot of radio playing up there. > >Yes Loran-A sterilized a portion of the band between about 1920 and 1980 >in the UK, but a good noise limiter could be quite useful. > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WarmSpgs@aol.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: 06 January 2006 18:06 > Subject: Re: Re[2]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? > > > > ...multiple bandsaws fading in and out with their relative phases >wobbling around like the efforts of a not very good disco DJ. > > Excellent description, John! And a rather slow disco DJ, at that. > > Here, I believe the frequency span was roughly 1700 to 1900. One could >often hear them with an AM broadcast receiver, and 160m was largely the >Unknown & Barely Usable Ham Band. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvzFA-0004oW-UH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvzFA-0004mq-LU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvzEc-00006P-28 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvzEb-00006G-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:01 +0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew0Pd-0005lD-Ms for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:45 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EvzDL-0002DO-00; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:45:43 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bNSdRwZeYe0fzZci5wIZzkPj2P67hjLZUGnWE+E57TGkIHtU7lL8YB@[84.133.106.69]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EvzD2-1rFguG0; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:45:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:45:20 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <939558088.20060109164520@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: lowfer@lwca.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bNSdRwZeYe0fzZci5wIZzkPj2P67hjLZUGnWE+E57TGkIHtU7lL8YB X-TOI-MSGID: 7f22837d-6d25-491d-994d-653823f6b3fb Subject: LF: WD2XKO in QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060100050006080808030100" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060100050006080808030100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Last night Dex, WD2XKO was transmitting in QRSS3 and CW nothing heard of the CW but I captured a lot of "XKO" strings in QRSS3. The QRSS3 signal was not strong but readable. 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LBPBlmvMPOlwbjApuXe7QSYMnZMe9o5mk2e6V82lDURv48i7DEntLJf3v+U5HrsaqNHPOWZn I7ChQyBQoUKABQoUKABQoUKABQoUKAD/2Q== --------------060100050006080808030100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:23:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvzoM-0003cn-2u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:23:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EvzoL-0003bx-RW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:23:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EvznZ-0000G6-5W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:23:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EvznY-0000Fx-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:23:08 +0000 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew0KC-0006Z7-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:56:53 +0000 Received: from Carmelink@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.1f8.1947aa18 (4539) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) From: Carmelink@aol.com Message-ID: <1f8.1947aa18.30f3e7e2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:22:58 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5016 Subject: Re[4]: LF: Loran Line or U.S. MedFER? 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Amateur rules, Part 12, late 1950s:
 
Alaska, the states on the Gulf of Mexico, and the Caribbean had no privileges;
 
1975-2000: Hawaii and the western states (500w day, 200w night), except less in Washington (200w day, 50w night).
 
1800-1825  Great Lakes and northeastern states (500w day, 200w night), less in the Mid-Atlantic states and west to Kansas and Oklahoma (200w day, 50w night).
 
In New York, the out-of-phase signals sounded to me like a buzzsaw, but a rather melodic one (?), that periodically swept swiftly upwards to a peak then swiftly back down.
 
Cheers,
 
Mike W2AG
WC2XTC
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew0Pi-0001Zt-6V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew0Pi-0001Xr-18 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew0PF-0000Q7-F7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew0PE-0000Py-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:02:05 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew0vu-00076A-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:35:51 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ew0OF-0000hz-02; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:01:03 +0100 Received: from localhost (bKbWm2ZFgencwfgxZm9JM-xq9AE14SE6QBM3mNYEqt96BRFy3vaiUd@[172.20.101.250]) by fwd29.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:00:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:00:45 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-UMS: email X-Mailer: TOI Kommunikationscenter V6-0-1 From: "uwe-jannsen@t-online.de" Message-ID: <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> X-ID: bKbWm2ZFgencwfgxZm9JM-xq9AE14SE6QBM3mNYEqt96BRFy3vaiUd@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 81ac4765-7d35-4ea9-a110-f006bc5baa00 Subject: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night and also Bills locator pse. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:25:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew0lq-0002m1-0f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:25:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew0lp-0002k5-ON for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:25:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew0lG-0000Xi-E7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:24:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew0lG-0000XZ-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:24:50 +0000 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com ([206.191.0.217]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew1Hs-0007ML-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:58:36 +0000 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09HOimK027424 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:24:45 -0500 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-99.nrtco.net [216.168.120.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail4.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09HOfFZ012686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:24:44 -0500 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20060109121921.01cc04a0@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:24:45 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Uwe: Antenna here was a rectangular loop in the woods about 150 feet from the shack. The loop is about 20 feet high by 30 feet long, favoring East/West. Receiver was a TS850S with GPS-disciplined master oscillator. My grid location is FN15nt, coords: 45:49:49N, 76:54:04W. Bill VE2IQ At 12:00 PM 1/9/2006, Uwe wrote: >Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, >I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night >and also Bills locator pse. > >regards >Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:54:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew1E6-0002c9-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:54:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew1E6-0002ZO-IK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:54:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew1De-0000gI-BD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:54:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew1Dd-0000g9-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:54:09 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew1kJ-0007b8-4g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:27:57 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ew1Db-0004hX-00; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:54:07 +0100 Received: from HW1 (rq98MiZbYeJyqaREJNBr-mRN0brTNKSwaZpsmLxDiBHeXnOfBE+Nrr@[84.133.102.33]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ew1DQ-1zH8Nc0; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:53:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:53:44 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5910409453.20060109185344@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rq98MiZbYeJyqaREJNBr-mRN0brTNKSwaZpsmLxDiBHeXnOfBE+Nrr X-TOI-MSGID: b563941b-3f92-4616-b329-7674857d1066 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 8/9th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) High noise level last night. The lightning map shows some T-storms over southern France. In addition to the WD2XKO QRSS3 signal on 137.701 kHz, also solid copy of VO1NA 21:00-08:30 UTC and WD2XES 21:30-08:15 UTC. On the "XES" signal appeared some deeper fadings. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:33:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew3i5-0003TQ-R7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:33:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew3i5-0003Sj-Jg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:33:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew3hC-00012s-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:32:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew3hC-00012j-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:32:50 +0000 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew4Dt-0000TG-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:06:40 +0000 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20060109203446.HEPK4492.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:34:46 +0100 Received: from y4x1l1 ([193.189.183.111]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20060109203244.RWYT19229.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:32:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002901c6155b$d1129120$6fb7bdc1@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109121921.01cc04a0@magma.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:31:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: Re: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Bill What is GPS - disciplined master oscilator...? Regards 73 , Joze S52AB http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill de Carle" To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: LF: aerials > Hi Uwe: > > Antenna here was a rectangular loop in the woods about 150 feet from the > shack. The loop is about 20 feet high by 30 feet long, favoring East/West. > Receiver was a TS850S with GPS-disciplined master oscillator. My grid > location is FN15nt, coords: 45:49:49N, 76:54:04W. > Bill VE2IQ > > At 12:00 PM 1/9/2006, Uwe wrote: > > >Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, > >I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night > >and also Bills locator pse. > > > >regards > >Uwe/dj8wx > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:20:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4RP-0000Sj-B7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:20:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4RO-0000Qw-GJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:20:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4Qy-0001AO-Cn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:20:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4Qy-0001AF-1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:20:08 +0000 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com ([206.191.0.217]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew5c2-00026P-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:35:56 +0000 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09LJlJv021476 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:19:48 -0500 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-99.nrtco.net [216.168.120.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail4.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k09LJiAT030116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:19:47 -0500 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20060109161229.01cd05c8@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:19:49 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <002901c6155b$d1129120$6fb7bdc1@y4x1l1> References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109121921.01cc04a0@magma.ca> <002901c6155b$d1129120$6fb7bdc1@y4x1l1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Joze: I replaced the Kenwood's internal 20 Mhz oscillator with an external ovenized standard which uses timing information from the Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite network. That improves short-term stability and holds the frequency to a tighter tolerance than the original oscillator. Useful for some of the digital modes. Bill VE2IQ At 03:31 PM 1/9/2006, Joze wrote: >Hello Bill > >What is GPS - disciplined master oscilator...? > >Regards > >73 , Joze S52AB >http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill de Carle" >To: >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:24 PM >Subject: Re: LF: aerials > > > > Hi Uwe: > > > > Antenna here was a rectangular loop in the woods about 150 feet from the > > shack. The loop is about 20 feet high by 30 feet long, favoring >East/West. > > Receiver was a TS850S with GPS-disciplined master oscillator. My grid > > location is FN15nt, coords: 45:49:49N, 76:54:04W. > > Bill VE2IQ > > > > At 12:00 PM 1/9/2006, Uwe wrote: > > > > >Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, > > >I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night > > >and also Bills locator pse. > > > > > >regards > > >Uwe/dj8wx > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4W3-0000vD-R4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4W3-0000up-OK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:25:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4Vq-0001FM-ND for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:25:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4Vq-0001FC-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:25:10 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew52Y-0000qZ-S0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from 88-106-246-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.246.97]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2006 21:23:53 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HANNgwkOHPyg Received: from 88-106-246-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.246.97]:1210 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ew4Ua-000IvV-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:23:52 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:23:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Who is WX ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, Who is it sending WX on 136318.5? Strong siganal. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:50:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4tz-0000jz-Td for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:50:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4tz-0000jS-Hr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:50:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4tH-0001M2-9F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:49:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4tG-0001Lt-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:49:22 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew64O-0002Pa-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:05:12 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060109214854014002c9vce>; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:48:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61566$7f327ae0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:48:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040108090306090605010208" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040108090306090605010208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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([212.7.152.119]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew5RY-00012e-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:24:54 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k09LotnP015529 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:50:55 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k09Losqr014541 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:50:54 +0100 Received: from i577a461a.versanet.de (i577a461a.versanet.de [87.122.70.26]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:50:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20060109225054.mxop4omuxfwo084k@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:50:54 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: Who is WX ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Gary - G4WGT : > Hi, > > Who is it sending WX on 136318.5? > > Strong siganal. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > why? uwe/dj8.. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4vI-00074x-A5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew4vI-00074f-1b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4v8-0001Of-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew4v8-0001OW-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:18 +0000 Received: from mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew66G-0002SU-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:07:07 +0000 Received: from mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.149]) by mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k09LoqDV031510 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:50:56 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (68.116.172.18) by mxip19a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2006 16:50:52 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,347,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1993452882:sNHT15439264" Message-ID: <43C2DAF9.70806@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:53 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: Who is WX ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Uwe, DJ8WX Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi, > >Who is it sending WX on 136318.5? > >Strong siganal. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:16:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5JI-0005Yo-6o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:16:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5JI-0005Ya-3w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:16:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5J1-0001dZ-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:15:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5J0-0001dQ-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:15:58 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew5pl-0001CG-Dl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:49:51 +0000 Received: from 88-106-246-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.246.97]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2006 22:14:48 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAONuwkOHPyg Received: from 88-106-246-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.246.97]:1503 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ew5Hr-000Nwt-P7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:14:47 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:15:06 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <20060109225054.mxop4omuxfwo084k@webmail.versatel.de> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: LF: Who is WX ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) why? uwe/dj8.. No problem Uwe, good strong signal & I did not recognise the two letters from your call sign, sorry. Thanks to John for his reply also. 73 Gary. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:43:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5jh-0002P3-5m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:43:34 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5jg-0002O9-SQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:43:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5jH-0001l5-7m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:43:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5jG-0001kw-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:43:06 +0000 Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew6uO-0002u9-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:58:57 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1284D1C00040 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 23:42:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-14.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-14.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.14]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 352821C00090 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 23:42:34 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060109224234217.352821C00090@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 23:42:27 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <43B4E905.90102@mail.ru> Message-ID: References: <43B4E905.90102@mail.ru> X-Politically: correct MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RA3YO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Strong signal from Dmitri 1745 z till 2220 z here, about 100 km NNW of Paris. ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ???????? ??????. ???????? ??????? ????, ????? ??? ?????? ! 73 all on LF_group ! - f5yg -- Jean-Pierre Godet - Powered by Linux (Slackware 10.0 - kernel 2.4.26) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:48:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5oA-0006l8-Rx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:48:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5oA-0006kv-MK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:48:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5o4-0001qF-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:48:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5o4-0001q6-2y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:48:04 +0000 Received: from bay102-f24.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.34] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew6z8-00033P-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:03:54 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:47:41 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:47:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20060109161229.01cd05c8@magma.ca> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:47:41 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2006 22:47:41.0714 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2CF1720:01C6156E] Subject: Re: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Did the same here with the TS870s using HP3336b and external 10 Mhz disiplined Z80 source - it works great! Laurence KL1X >From: Bill de Carle >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: aerials >Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:19:49 -0500 > >Hi Joze: > >I replaced the Kenwood's internal 20 Mhz oscillator with an >external ovenized standard which uses timing information from >the Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite network. That >improves short-term stability and holds the frequency to a >tighter tolerance than the original oscillator. Useful for >some of the digital modes. >Bill VE2IQ > >At 03:31 PM 1/9/2006, Joze wrote: >>Hello Bill >> >>What is GPS - disciplined master oscilator...? >> >>Regards >> >>73 , Joze S52AB >>http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Bill de Carle" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:24 PM >>Subject: Re: LF: aerials >> >> >> > Hi Uwe: >> > >> > Antenna here was a rectangular loop in the woods about 150 feet from >>the >> > shack. The loop is about 20 feet high by 30 feet long, favoring >>East/West. >> > Receiver was a TS850S with GPS-disciplined master oscillator. My grid >> > location is FN15nt, coords: 45:49:49N, 76:54:04W. >> > Bill VE2IQ >> > >> > At 12:00 PM 1/9/2006, Uwe wrote: >> > >> > >Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, >> > >I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night >> > >and also Bills locator pse. >> > > >> > >regards >> > >Uwe/dj8wx >> > >> > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5sZ-0003lB-R4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew5sZ-0003iv-Lx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5rz-0001vU-GA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew5rz-0001vL-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:07 +0000 Received: from bay102-f40.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.50] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew737-0003BU-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:07:57 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:51:49 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:51:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:51:48 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2006 22:51:49.0106 (UTC) FILETIME=[46441D20:01C6156F] Subject: LF: XDW last night on Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Well its time to pull the loops out of the trees and pack stuff away for another day - should be back on Part 5 within the next 6 months or so after we move QTH to the other side of town. I should be back on LF rx pretty quickly. So last nite DFCW 137.7751/137.7753 KHz DFCW 90 1.2Kw output Limestone strata rock is just 12 inches beneath the soil in the new QTH.... err... Laurence KL1X in 5 em26aq Bartlesville OK, just 15 miles South of the real "Little House in the prairy..." From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:47:05 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew6j9-0003wB-Ik for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:47:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ew6j9-0003p9-FM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:47:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew6ia-00025c-5N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:46:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ew6iZ-00025T-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:46:27 +0000 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ew7FN-00024I-6X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:20:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 3026 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2006 23:46:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.46.216 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2006 23:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c61576$e3e99c60$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 23:46:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: XDW last night on Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Sound great....a couple of sticks of dynamite and drop a couple of redwood trunks in, leave the bark on and say they are "cuttings" no need for planing (or do you call it zoning) approval then !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > Limestone strata rock is just 12 inches beneath the soil in the new QTH.... > err... > > > Laurence KL1X in 5 > em26aq > Bartlesville OK, just 15 miles South of the real "Little House in the > prairy..." > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:50:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwEGh-0002Zm-AA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:50:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwEGg-0002ZU-SZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:50:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwEG1-0002ut-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:49:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwEG0-0002uk-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:49:28 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwFRI-0008Pj-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:05:27 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-53-82-65-7-198.adsl.proxad.net [82.65.7.198]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B55906C677 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:49:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000c01c615ba$57987f30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C24E1C.5050609@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:49:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: XES Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080800040209010207020008" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080800040209010207020008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all on the list ! 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(helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwFlq-00039P-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:26:26 +0000 Received: from xrelay06.mail2web.com ([168.144.1.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwGIp-0005OZ-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:00:33 +0000 Received: from [168.144.251.142] (helo=M2W037.mail2web.com) by xrelay06.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EwFlf-0006aa-Im; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:26:17 -0500 Message-ID: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 86.138.39.208 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:26:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: ferrite rods X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Many thanks to all the useful information on a Ferrite rod antenna that has been received via the list and by direct e-mail. It is interesting to note that I sent the same original e-mail to another e-mail list from which I have had no replies. You are to be congratulated on your willingness to support others on this list. When ever I am talking to people [in the day job] about communities of practice in education I use this list as an example of the value of e-mail groups. My conclusion to the antenna is to experiment with a number of development steps with ferrites while recognising that effort put into an airspaced loop would yield better results. However the reduced complexity and easier control of direction of ferrite makes it an interesting alternative. If I have time in the summer I am considering digging up parts of the patio and lawn to get some coax and some other cables to the bottom of the garden. Then see if I can get planning permission ( local from "Her in doors" )then I think a decent sized multi turn loop would be the next stage. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:36:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwGrP-0006KO-8k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:36:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwGrP-0006IS-0A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:36:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwGqi-0003Lf-SL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:35:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwGqd-0003LW-8H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:35:27 +0000 Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de ([81.169.145.166]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwHNe-0005hJ-Fs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:09:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p54866DFE.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.109.254]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0AAZ7eK021558 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:35:08 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <43C38DFF.40401@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:35:43 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WD2XKO Jan, 9/10th Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060306030107050801010709" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060306030107050801010709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Again copy of "XKO" in QRSS3. I have not listen to the audiofile for the CW yet but QRSS3 copy was good and for a longer time than the previous night. See attachement. 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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwHfH-0003cp-62 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:27:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwHfG-0003cg-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:27:46 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwIqY-0001nU-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:43:49 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EwHdz-0008Vp-04; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:26:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (VUAHEaZTgeNiKMgmLyimAVKjoV0ixAWrLZfZXQmNxR1MeQREwpOTc-@[172.20.101.250]) by fwd16.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EwHdg-0sJ9s00; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:26:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:26:08 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-UMS: email X-Mailer: TOI Kommunikationscenter V6-0-1 From: "DL4EAU@t-online.de" Message-ID: <1EwHdg-0sJ9s00@fwd16.aul.t-online.de> X-ID: VUAHEaZTgeNiKMgmLyimAVKjoV0ixAWrLZfZXQmNxR1MeQREwpOTc-@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 2fade5e8-067b-4d1e-ac5d-86207a9e0e17 Subject: Re: LF: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Peter, please have a look to http://www.amateur-radio-antenna.com/Module-Site/index.htm may be you can get some ideas! 73' Tom DL4EAU -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:26:15 +0100 Subject: Re: LF: ferrite rods From: "peter.cleall@virgin.net" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Many thanks to all the useful information on a Ferrite rod antenna that has been received via the list and by direct e-mail. It is interesting to note that I  sent the same original e-mail to another e-mail list from which I have had no replies. You are to be congratulated on your willingness to support others on this list.  When ever I am talking to people [in the day job] about communities of practice in education I use this list as an example of the value of e-mail groups. My conclusion to the antenna  is to experiment with a number of development steps with ferrites while recognising that effort put into an airspaced loop would yield better results. However the reduced complexity and easier control of direction of ferrite makes it  an interesting alternative. If I have time in the summer I am considering digging up parts of the patio and lawn to get some coax and some other cables to the bottom of the garden. Then see if I can get planning permission ( local from "Her in doors" )then I think a decent sized multi turn loop would be the next stage. regards peter G8AFN -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:34:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwHlH-0005mZ-Ob for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:34:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwHlH-0005lU-KY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:33:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwHl4-0003iH-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:33:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwHl4-0003i8-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:33:46 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwIwM-0001pj-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:49:48 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060110113320014002cm21e>; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:33:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c615d9$a8af8700$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:33:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 10 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Higher static and fewer signals. Early reception of CT1DRP. Captures at: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:08:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwJEf-0007pu-Ne for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:08:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwJEf-0007pI-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:08:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwJDZ-0003z8-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:07:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwJDY-0003yz-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:07:16 +0000 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.25]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwJkc-0006MS-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:41:28 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0607.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 119E91C001A5 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:07:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-1-211.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.230.211]) by mwinf0607.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 207EE1C00160 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:07:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060110130708133.207EE1C00160@mwinf0607.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200601101407000027.04FBD03B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:07:00 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Peter, If you can get hold of it (I'm not sure how you do this) you will find some material on this topic in the doctoral thesis of David Gibson of Leeds University. Chapter 4 deals with antenna design and section 4.4 specifically deals with magnetic-cored antennas. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 10/01/2006 at 04:26 peter.cleall@virgin.net wrote: >Many thanks to all the useful information on a Ferrite rod antenna that >has >been received via the list and by direct e-mail. > >It is interesting to note that I sent the same original e-mail to another >e-mail list from which I have had no replies. You are to be congratulated >on your willingness to support others on this list. When ever I am talking >to people [in the day job] about communities of practice in education I use >this list as an example of the value of e-mail groups. > >My conclusion to the antenna is to experiment with a number of development >steps with ferrites while recognising that effort put into an airspaced >loop would yield better results. However the reduced complexity and easier >control of direction of ferrite makes it an interesting alternative. If I >have time in the summer I am considering digging up parts of the patio and >lawn to get some coax and some other cables to the bottom of the garden. >Then see if I can get planning permission ( local from "Her in doors" )then >I think a decent sized multi turn loop would be the next stage. > > >regards >peter G8AFN > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:49:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwKoJ-0000Z6-Mt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:49:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwKoJ-0000Yi-Gr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:49:19 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwKnV-0004JU-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:48:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwKnV-0004JL-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:48:29 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwLKb-0006mk-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:22:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 57874 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2006 14:47:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.98.208 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2006 14:47:21 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:45:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:11:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwL9k-00015S-FY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:11:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwL9k-000148-8z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:11:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwL9N-0004SW-3B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:11:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwL9M-0004SN-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:11:04 +0000 Received: from tucana.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.215.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwMKk-0003XB-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:27:10 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1EwL5R-0007dN-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:07:01 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:07:00 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c615f7$81b33a70$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <380-22006121092615282@M2W037.mail2web.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-UH-MailScanner-Information: UH-mail X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: RE: LF: ferrite rods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Peter, LF Group, Whatever type of antenna you go for, I strongly suggest you try a lash-up first, before expending a lot of time and trouble on the final proper version, routing cables etc. Any loop or ferrite rod ant is sensitive to local magnetic fields produced by noise currents flowing in (usually mains-) cables. So you are quite likely to find you have made a cable detector instead of a better antenna! I suggest you lash up an antenna and try it in different locations until you find an electrically quiet spot. In my case, I have to position my loop antennas at the bottom of the garden in order to avoid picking up mains-borne QRM. Moving the antennas around by only a few metres often makes a big difference to the QRM level. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:35:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwMSy-0007dk-0U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:35:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwMSx-0007be-TX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:35:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwMS8-0004iJ-Jh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwMS8-0004iA-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:32 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwNdY-0004F0-Cl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:50:39 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (81-6-224-192.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.224.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0AGXQ4M025076 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:33:27 GMT Message-ID: <000801c61603$9c0ae330$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:33:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: {Spam?} Re: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Nothing seen here, Alan. 1630 Walter G3JKV. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z > Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF > abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it > crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:34:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOK1-0006Ki-H2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:34:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOK1-0006KD-DI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:34:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOJE-00054w-7C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:33:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOJD-00054n-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:33:27 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwPUg-0005H7-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:49:37 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 43FFC1C001D1 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:33:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-3-120.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-3-120.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.69.120]) by mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 664DB1C0025B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:33:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060110183306419.664DB1C0025B@mwinf0204.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:32:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> Message-ID: References: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Alan Melia wrote: > Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF > abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it > crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England. > ... Hello Alan and all, May be quite another thing... And it was a little bit on a higher frequency. I was testing the accuracy and stability of my receiver on the 137,713.56 Hz Loran line from Lessay in a 10 Hz windows (137,711 ==> 137,721 Hz). Something very strong, about 1 Hz wide, moving high, crossed the window in about a quarter of hour. Never seen such a thing. Although I'm living in a very quiet place, with a very low level of noise, I persuaded myself that it was a spurious. I so believed it was a spurious, it was so incredible, that I cannot be more accurate : It was at the end of the afternoon, I did not captured the waterfall screen, a large line, very straight was building in the SpecLab screen moving with a little angle high and crossing all the screen. The level here in the North West of France was 20/30 dB above the noise level. Without the post from Alan, I should be afraid to write such a thing on the reflector. My friends, excuse me for my poor English. 73 Alan and all ! Jean-Pierre - f5yg -- Jean-Pierre Godet - Powered by Linux (Slackware 10.0 - kernel 2.4.26) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:00:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOjP-0008Ve-Az for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:00:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOjP-0008Uo-2O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:00:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOj3-0005Dj-Do for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:00:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOj3-0005Da-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:00:09 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwPuU-0005cE-DQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:16:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 90924 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2006 18:59:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.76.185 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2006 18:59:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c61618$04b2f120$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> <000801c61603$9c0ae330$2101a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:34:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: {Spam?} Re: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Walter , Yes it had gone of moved up or gone by about 1500z I think I wasn't taking too much notice. I think I have seen the carrier several times but no mod discernable. It sometimes looks like a string of christmas trees. Cheers and a belated Happy New Year de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Blanchard To: Sent: 10 January 2006 16:33 Subject: LF: {Spam?} Re: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z > Nothing seen here, Alan. > 1630 > > Walter G3JKV. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:45 PM > Subject: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z > > > > Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF > > abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it > > crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England. > > > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOmL-0000jP-Lh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwOmL-0000it-H9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOmC-0005Hs-G9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwOmC-0005Hj-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:24 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwPxe-0005f4-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:19:33 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EwOlv-0008BX-0C; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:03:07 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Tls3ZQZrrefn4aQH6BhLrdIsrXhydQurEKWtg2DbKt4gTTYrQE4ogM@[84.133.113.64]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EwOlq-0ZJxUu0; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:03:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:03:00 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5910428525.20060110200300@t-online.de> To: Alan Melia In-Reply-To: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> References: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Tls3ZQZrrefn4aQH6BhLrdIsrXhydQurEKWtg2DbKt4gTTYrQE4ogM X-TOI-MSGID: ba5aae5a-9a05-497a-a603-3dd00553a707 Subject: Re: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Alan, nothing seen at that time you mentioned. At 14:44 DK7SU started a call about 137.704 at the end of the call 14:47 he was on 137.699. At 14:50 PA3EGO was calling on 137.700. 73 Hartmut > Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF > abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it > crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England. > Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:25:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwP75-0003zy-3N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:25:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwP73-0003yl-V1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:24:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwP6o-0005RK-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:24:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwP6n-0005RB-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:24:41 +0000 Received: from web25408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwQIF-0005xz-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:40:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 57230 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2006 19:23:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=evWa7PzrPGHDblgXmS/PTZ4GgmBDzj+Ss2mVeFYBrpTXudN+pUJBJ14gzIpa+O7SHdNyIoGm9Tai5B0EcPuO2LkFslTd8J8VvkCgBEcCIT4TE18Dnf8sB6Z7QNzvJmht31scxGsWXpnnu3frAk//aMPq7KIQOjdSzO6yi+H2pnw= ; Message-ID: <20060110192319.57228.qmail@web25408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:23:19 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:23:19 +0000 (GMT) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001001c615f4$c347bd60$67b0fea9@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080609020304080101050704" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080609020304080101050704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Alan
 
I've been out all afternoon but I did see something similar this morning (1115). It was VERY strong here in Watford (IO91TP) - 40 dB or so over noise. I put Argo on it but it went after a few minutes. Grab attached.
 
Brian

Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF
abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it
crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England.


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dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:06:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwPlS-0007AT-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:06:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwPlS-00079L-Ov for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:06:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwPkZ-0005d8-5P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:05:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwPkY-0005cz-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:05:46 +0000 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwQHj-000068-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:40:06 +0000 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20060110200741.ULEL4492.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:07:41 +0100 Received: from y4x1l1 ([212.30.68.142]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20060110200536.URBC19229.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:05:36 +0100 Message-ID: <01dd01c61621$30a9bd00$0509fad5@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <88d2415e0601081223g261f3ac1v@mail.gmail.com> <001101c614ae$7f122b40$0c768351@w4o8m9> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109080239.01c3b160@magma.ca> <1Ew0Nx-1UqCmG0@fwd29.aul.t-online.de> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109121921.01cc04a0@magma.ca> <002901c6155b$d1129120$6fb7bdc1@y4x1l1> <6.2.5.6.1.20060109161229.01cd05c8@magma.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:04:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: Re: LF: aerials Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks for your answer, Bill 73 , Joze S52AB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill de Carle" To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: LF: aerials > Hi Joze: > > I replaced the Kenwood's internal 20 Mhz oscillator with an > external ovenized standard which uses timing information from > the Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite network. That > improves short-term stability and holds the frequency to a > tighter tolerance than the original oscillator. Useful for > some of the digital modes. > Bill VE2IQ > > At 03:31 PM 1/9/2006, Joze wrote: > >Hello Bill > > > >What is GPS - disciplined master oscilator...? > > > >Regards > > > >73 , Joze S52AB > >http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bill de Carle" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:24 PM > >Subject: Re: LF: aerials > > > > > > > Hi Uwe: > > > > > > Antenna here was a rectangular loop in the woods about 150 feet from the > > > shack. The loop is about 20 feet high by 30 feet long, favoring > >East/West. > > > Receiver was a TS850S with GPS-disciplined master oscillator. My grid > > > location is FN15nt, coords: 45:49:49N, 76:54:04W. > > > Bill VE2IQ > > > > > > At 12:00 PM 1/9/2006, Uwe wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Jay/W1VD and Bill/VE2IQ, > > > >I would like to know what receiving equipments you did use last night > > > >and also Bills locator pse. > > > > > > > >regards > > > >Uwe/dj8wx > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:24:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwTnM-0005i7-UI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:24:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwTnM-0005hC-Pi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:24:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwTmK-0006DG-Qi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:23:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwTmK-0006D7-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:23:52 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwUJc-0002dH-R1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:58:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 56661 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2006 00:23:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.11.199 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2006 00:23:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c61645$46a96960$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060110192319.57228.qmail@web25408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:35:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Brian MMmm it looks the same particularly those little dumb-bells it as though there is a very short break in the carrier. I think I have seen it before during the daytime but been to involved with other things to check it up.
I have a couple of screens of your weekend transmissions quite strong over here in deepest Suffolk. I'll send thos direct now I have your address again (crashed the old address book)
Thanks also to Hartmut and Jean Pierre for their comments. It would seem this signal is nearer to us that to Hartmut. It certianly appears at various frequencies in the band.
 
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 10 January 2006 19:23
Subject: Re: LF: 137.62 kHz on the 10th 1430z

Hi Alan
 
I've been out all afternoon but I did see something similar this morning (1115). It was VERY strong here in Watford (IO91TP) - 40 dB or so over noise. I put Argo on it but it went after a few minutes. Grab attached.
 
Brian

Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi all, does anyone claim the signal on about 137.62 (drifting slightly HF
abt 1Hz per 2 mins with 0.7Hz sidebands....which might be beats as it
crosses a Loran line) ?? It is a good strength here in eastern England.


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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:37:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EweHz-0003fT-4P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:37:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EweHz-0003cG-1c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:37:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EweH1-00071B-3z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:36:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EweH0-000712-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:36:14 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EweoW-0006JE-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006011111352801200jm6une>; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:35:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c616a3$1f36c040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:35:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 11 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Some static and somewhat weaker signals. Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:13:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwibT-000507-PM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:13:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwibT-0004u4-LZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:13:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ewia2-0007Oz-6K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:12:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ewia1-0007Oq-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:12:09 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ewj7d-0007zd-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:46:55 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EwiZx-0003IO-04; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:12:05 +0100 Received: from HW1 (G5qMD4ZXgeIsA8uVAE4Tz3ispe3hFdkXtXPwWOcSYSksCdCaVcn1kT@[84.133.81.185]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EwiZm-0jg2hE0; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:11:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:11:51 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <369757708.20060111171151@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: G5qMD4ZXgeIsA8uVAE4Tz3ispe3hFdkXtXPwWOcSYSksCdCaVcn1kT X-TOI-MSGID: ec30db40-49b3-46bd-b0b5-5c8b8f84d79e Subject: LF: TA Jan, 10/11th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA received here 22:00-08:30. Very strong signal 22:00-00:30 and 04:00-07:30 UTC. WD2XES 02:15-04:15 fair, then a long deep fading period until 05:45.Fade out about 08:00 UTC Poor reception of WD2XKO on 137.701 kHz last night. Copied only about 10 "XKO" strings in QRSS3. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:29:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwirC-0000Zl-Hn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:29:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwirC-0000TQ-8K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:29:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwiqQ-0007Ug-Cb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:29:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwiqP-0007UX-PZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:29:05 +0000 Received: from mx1.mail.ru ([194.67.23.121]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwjNz-00089B-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:03:51 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.53] (port=1077 helo=mail.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ewiq8-000LHj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:28:48 +0300 Message-ID: <43C5325D.8040405@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:29:17 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c616a3$1f36c040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA 11 JAN 06 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060900020206040502070607" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060900020206040502070607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jay Very interesting signal for me on 136319.35. I transmiting about 23z Dmitri RA3YO Jay Rusgrove wrote: >Some static and somewhat weaker signals. 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Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:35:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewkou-0004uR-L9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:35:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewkou-0004tZ-HB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:35:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwkoL-0007r2-IK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:35:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwkoK-0007qt-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:35:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.224] helo=smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwlM0-0000eA-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:09:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 19651 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2006 18:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 11 Jan 2006 18:33:47 -0000 Message-ID: <43C54FE0.1070802@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:35:12 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C24E1C.5050609@bbs2-gifhorn.de> <000c01c615ba$57987f30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <001301c616da$fd224140$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> In-Reply-To: <001301c616da$fd224140$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Subject: Re: LF: What is ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jean-Pierre, CT1DRP has been transmitting DFCW on 136.318 kHz. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:53:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewl6W-0007FX-Uz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:53:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewl6W-0007Ef-Qt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:53:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ewl6B-0007xE-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:53:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ewl6B-0007x5-9j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:53:31 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwmI1-0004Xk-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:10:04 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-37-82-253-14-69.adsl.proxad.net [82.253.14.69]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D2CC44077 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:52:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000701c616e0$340bc5f0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005301c61510$7fa4bac0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C24E1C.5050609@bbs2-gifhorn.de> <000c01c615ba$57987f30$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <001301c616da$fd224140$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <43C54FE0.1070802@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:52:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: What is ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Tnx John 73 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: What is ? > Jean-Pierre, > > CT1DRP has been transmitting DFCW on 136.318 kHz. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:07:05 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwlJF-0005wu-Ld for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:07:05 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EwlJF-0005rf-Ef for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:07:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwlIo-00083x-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:06:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwlIo-00083o-8S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:06:34 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwlqR-0000ud-KI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:41:23 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200601111905410130093b52e>; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:05:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c616e2$06e92340$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c616a3$1f36c040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C5325D.8040405@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:05:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA 11 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dmitri The overlay of your signal is quite interesting! I have noticed the activity on your frequency but did not have enough information to ID. I'll go back through my captures and use your overlay to look for other bits and pieces. Hopefully, one of these nights the signal will come a bit further out of the noise and paint a nice clean capture! Will continue to monitor your frequency. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA 11 JAN 06 > Hi Jay > > Very interesting signal for me on 136319.35. I transmiting about 23z > > Dmitri > RA3YO > > > Jay Rusgrove wrote: > > >Some static and somewhat weaker signals. Captures: > > > >http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > > >Jay, W1VD > > > >. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewll0-0000FM-B8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ewll0-0000F0-1n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EwlkQ-0008CM-4h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EwlkP-0008CD-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:05 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EwmI6-000164-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:09:55 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-37-82-253-14-69.adsl.proxad.net [82.253.14.69]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A6C0A171D1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003601c616e6$1c301480$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c616a3$1f36c040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <43C5325D.8040405@mail.ru> <000b01c616e2$06e92340$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:34:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: RA3YO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040105070303080401090900" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040105070303080401090900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> Hi Jay >> >> Very interesting signal for me on 136319.35. 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11:18:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex0TE-0004C7-TI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:18:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex0S2-000125-9q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:17:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex0S1-00011w-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:17:05 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex101-0006Gn-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:52:15 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006011211165601400dg98pe>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61769$b2c68f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:16:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 12 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Local thunderstorms...very little copy. Occasional bright spots indicates propagation may have been good. One meager capture: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex11n-0001F5-Fm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex11n-000166-AQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex11D-0001AV-El for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:53:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex11C-0001AM-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:53:27 +0000 Received: from mxsf06.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.206]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex1ZC-0006QE-47 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:28:37 +0000 Received: from mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.135]) by mxsf06.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CBqxn1003168 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:53:00 -0500 Received: from 68-116-172-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.116.172.18]) by mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2006 06:52:59 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,360,1131339600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,217,145"; a="1700630435:sNHT43898468" Message-ID: <43C64359.4010905@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:54:01 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61769$b2c68f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000701c61769$b2c68f40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: Re: LF: TA 12 JAN 06 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050605080603040502020306" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050605080603040502020306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Same as Jay -- poor copy due to local wx. There were signs of Uwe's signal, though:


John Andrews, W1TAG
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--------------050605080603040502020306-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:58:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex3uA-00044O-UG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:58:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex3uA-00043o-Pf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:58:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex3tK-0001VZ-5J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:57:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex3tJ-0001VQ-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:57:29 +0000 Received: from mxout01.versatel.de ([212.7.152.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex4RM-0007Pi-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:32:43 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CEuIWf001256 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:56:18 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CEuHCA030793 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:56:18 +0100 Received: from i577a5406.versanet.de (i577a5406.versanet.de [87.122.84.6]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:56:17 +0100 Message-ID: <20060112155617.70o4s9ervhwc8ooo@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:56:17 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: TA 12 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Jay Rusgrove : > Local thunderstorms...very little copy. Occasional bright spots > indicates propagation may have been good. One meager capture: > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD > > > Thanks Jay, thanks John, vy "meager" results using 700W output, ie abt 0,9W ERP. 800W LF output would be the next step. but 1. FS measurements using the equipment of our Radio Control Station (Bundesnetzagentur) located in my vicinity showed that 800W output means a few mW more than 1W ERP 2. I guess it doesnt help making the step from "meager" to "fat" on your screen. Regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:18:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4DR-0006FS-Dl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:18:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4DR-0006EY-A9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:18:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4D7-0001ck-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:17:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4D6-0001cb-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:17:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex4lB-0007js-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:53:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 15443 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2006 15:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2006 15:16:49 -0000 Message-ID: <43C6733D.6080104@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:18:21 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060112155617.70o4s9ervhwc8ooo@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20060112155617.70o4s9ervhwc8ooo@webmail.versatel.de> Subject: Re: LF: TA 12 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Uwe, I would expect our local conditions to be much better tonight. We are then expecting rain on Friday and Saturday nights, but it's unclear whether the storm will have lightning. We keep getting these offshore storms that are fairly severe out over the water, and close enough for the noise to affect our reception. John A. uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: > Zitat von Jay Rusgrove : > >> Local thunderstorms...very little copy. Occasional bright spots >> indicates propagation may have been good. One meager capture: >> >> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html >> >> Jay, W1VD >> >> >> > > Thanks Jay, thanks John, > > vy "meager" results using 700W output, ie abt 0,9W ERP. 800W LF output > would be > the next step. but > 1. FS measurements using the equipment of our Radio Control Station > (Bundesnetzagentur) located in my vicinity showed that 800W output > means > a few mW more than 1W ERP > 2. I guess it doesnt help making the step from "meager" to "fat" on > your screen. > > Regards > Uwe/dj8wx > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:59:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4rd-0003gB-Hi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:59:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4rd-0003eO-Cu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:59:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4qc-0001nF-Sc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:58:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4qc-0001n6-Ec for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:58:46 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex5Oi-0008Rk-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:34:02 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ex4qZ-0002nc-01; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:58:43 +0100 Received: from HW1 (V+Em1+Zbge4H99flKUhV5i5EH6UtBdnat9qGC4WQG7KxzHgQV+bdoy@[84.133.77.27]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ex4qQ-1rM1200; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:58:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:58:31 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: V+Em1+Zbge4H99flKUhV5i5EH6UtBdnat9qGC4WQG7KxzHgQV+bdoy X-TOI-MSGID: e326b844-c155-416b-99d7-0b8f3df4dc41 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 11/12th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA with very strong signal 19:00-08:30 UTC. About 05:30-06:30 appeared a UNID faint trace near 137776.8 Hz. Nothing readable and only visible on the slowest screen. Traces and only partial copy of WD2XKO's QRSS3 signal the whole night until about local dawn. Then copied some "XKO"s and the signal faded out. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4xH-00067G-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex4xH-00065x-IR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4x3-0001tD-Bl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex4x3-0001t4-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:25 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([194.67.23.149]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex69C-00018L-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:22:18 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.65] (port=30595 helo=mail.ru) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ex4wb-0005T8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:04:58 +0300 Message-ID: <43C67E49.7010702@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:05:29 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Lf group! RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. dfcw30, frequency about 137774 Dmitri RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:15:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex56e-0000Cr-Lg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:15:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex56e-0000Cb-Ek for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:15:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex56C-000204-6w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:14:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex56B-0001zv-Rj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:14:51 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex5eG-0000EK-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:50:07 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <20060112161439112002td11e>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:14:39 +0000 Message-ID: <43C68071.906@att.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:14:41 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan, 11/12th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, That UNID may be MP, Mitch Powell, VE3OT. Check the KIØLE grabber: http://www.cpinternet.com/~ki0le/pages/argo.htm Dex Hartmut Wolff wrote: >About 05:30-06:30 appeared a UNID faint trace near 137776.8 Hz. >Nothing readable and only visible on the slowest screen. > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:27:11 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5I5-0000kk-Vi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:27:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5I5-0000jF-R3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:27:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5Hp-000260-IX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:26:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5Hp-00025r-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:26:53 +0000 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex6Tv-0001Qu-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:43:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 12112 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2006 16:23:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2006 16:23:51 -0000 Message-ID: <43C682F3.2050004@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:23 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> <43C68071.906@att.net> In-Reply-To: <43C68071.906@att.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan, 11/12th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I'll bet that if Mitch would slow down to QRSS60, Hartmut could copy him under these conditions. JA Dexter McIntyre W4DEX wrote: > Hartmut, > > That UNID may be MP, Mitch Powell, VE3OT. Check the KIØLE grabber: > > http://www.cpinternet.com/~ki0le/pages/argo.htm > > Dex > > Hartmut Wolff wrote: > >> About 05:30-06:30 appeared a UNID faint trace near 137776.8 Hz. >> Nothing readable and only visible on the slowest screen. >> >> >> > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:47:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5bb-0005Fx-VT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:47:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5bb-0005Ec-Q9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:47:19 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5b8-0002DU-Vw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:46:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5b8-0002DL-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:46:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0134.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.134] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex69G-0000TG-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:22:07 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.21) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C554450001ABA1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:44:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c61797$74fbd700$15e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43C67E49.7010702@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:44:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: LF: RX9BS > Hi Lf group! > > RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. > dfcw30, frequency about 137774 > > Dmitri > RA3YO Hi Dmitri. I will call u on ur Freq on QRS 20 if I can see or hear you. Pse look out for me, Tnx de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:11:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5zP-0002Et-7T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:11:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex5zP-0002Bm-23 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:11:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5yc-0002LA-Ir for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:11:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex5yc-0002L1-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:11:06 +0000 Received: from tucana.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.215.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex7Am-00020f-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:28:00 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Ex5yF-0002Ii-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:10:43 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:10:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c6179b$1ea24ac0$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <43C67E49.7010702@mail.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-UH-MailScanner-Information: UH-mail X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: RE: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Dmitri, Will look out for the signal - where is the actual QTH of RX9BS? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dmitri Sent: 12 January 2006 16:05 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX9BS Hi Lf group! RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. dfcw30, frequency about 137774 Dmitri RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:10:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex6uO-0005mf-G9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:10:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex6uO-0005kI-Cg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:10:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex6to-0002X2-Lb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:10:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex6to-0002Wt-AO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:10:12 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex860-0002dQ-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:27:07 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <2006011218095011300604mte>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:09:50 +0000 Message-ID: <43C69B66.1070102@att.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:09:42 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF , LowFer LWCA Subject: LF: XKO off due to amp failure Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Yesterday afternoon an unexpected thunderstorm developed before I got a chance to disconnect the antenna. A few cloud to ground strikes hit probably between a half and one mile way. Also what seems to have been a cloud to cloud strike occurred overhead while the transmitter was still connected. After the storm passed I powered back up. Initially all looked well but after watching the amp for a while I noticed small erratic changed in the FET current and output power. Also the power would creep up a bit during key down. Normally while operating at 400 watts the power would drop off a few watts during key down. I let it run overnight and this morning found the power to be down a bit but stable. About mid day I was just outside the shack and heard what sound like a metal pail falling to the floor and rolling around. Upon opening the shack door I immediately noticed the smell of burnt electronic components and no output from the amp. Upon removing the amp cover I saw FET guts scattered over the board and a black area on the PC board near the FETs. The amp has been so stable and reliable I can't help but suspect the FETs were damaged during the storm. So I'll be off the air for a while. On a positive note, since it's as warm outside as in the house I'll waste no energy airing the odor out before the wife returns home. Dex, W4DEX / WD2XKO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:35:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex8EP-0006XN-Jp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:35:34 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex8EP-0006WZ-Av for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:35:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex8De-0002mS-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:34:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex8De-0002mJ-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:34:46 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex9Pr-0003if-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:51:43 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-39-82-255-10-187.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.10.187]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EC5E44245 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:34:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001b01c617af$328e4ca0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> <43C68071.906@att.net> <43C682F3.2050004@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:34:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: CT1DRP and WX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000307030706040601070907" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000307030706040601070907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all ! Good signal of CT1DRP and WX ???? 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post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ex9qu-0001ig-Jl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:19:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex9qD-00034X-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:18:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ex9qC-00034O-Ry for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:18:40 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExB2L-00057g-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:35:39 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ex9os-0006Hr-06; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:17:18 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XRHb-mZf8eOO3G+D0emq27AvpXwIvogpv9rYM1gbj1ysPF9G3dRNUl@[84.133.102.33]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ex9od-1LyW0m0; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:17:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:16:58 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7810086254.20060112221658@t-online.de> To: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX In-Reply-To: <43C68071.906@att.net> References: <1718885300.20060112165831@t-online.de> <43C68071.906@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XRHb-mZf8eOO3G+D0emq27AvpXwIvogpv9rYM1gbj1ysPF9G3dRNUl X-TOI-MSGID: 6751dcdf-a317-4333-b539-c2fe35fc600a Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan, 11/12th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dex, tnx! I've got not enough for a clear identification. Hartmut > Hartmut, > That UNID may be MP, Mitch Powell, VE3OT. Check the KIØLE grabber: > http://www.cpinternet.com/~ki0le/pages/argo.htm > Dex > Hartmut Wolff wrote: >>About 05:30-06:30 appeared a UNID faint trace near 137776.8 Hz. >>Nothing readable and only visible on the slowest screen. >> >> >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:43:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExAEU-0003su-32 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:43:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExAET-0003rq-Tf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:43:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExADf-0003CD-AM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:42:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExADe-0003C4-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:42:54 +0000 Received: from mx1.mail.ru ([194.67.23.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExBPt-0005ZP-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:59:53 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.126] (port=1269 helo=mail.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1ExADL-0005IH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:42:35 +0300 Message-ID: <43C6CD73.9030906@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:43:15 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c6179b$1ea24ac0$e6a4c593@RD40002> Subject: Re: LF: RE: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jim

QTH  RX9BS    is  Chelyabinsk,  URAL

Dmitri

james moritz wrote:
Dear Dmitri,

Will look out for the signal - where is the actual QTH of RX9BS?

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:44:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExBBS-0007tb-J0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:44:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExBBR-0007t2-Kw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:44:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExBAP-0003M3-I0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:43:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExBAO-0003Lu-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:43:36 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([63.240.77.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExBib-00034L-FL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:19:00 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006011222424801400f5etde>; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:42:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c617c9$834f1060$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:42:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010601080109010807060205" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010601080109010807060205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
First CT1DRP reception - 2038Z.
 
'WX' and fragments on RA3YO's new frequency:
 
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExCZY-0003aq-6u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:13:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExCZX-0003ah-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:13:39 +0000 Received: from simmts12.bellnexxia.net ([206.47.199.141] helo=simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExDlo-0007IZ-BV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:30:41 +0000 Received: from [192.168.123.199] ([65.95.181.128]) by simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060113001309.RDIH29039.simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.123.199]> for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:13:09 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:13:49 -0500 From: Mitch Powell To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <43C682F3.2050004@w1tag.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan, 11/12th Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) >>> About 05:30-06:30 appeared a UNID faint trace near 137776.8 Hz. >>> Nothing readable and only visible on the slowest screen. > > I'll bet that if Mitch would slow down to QRSS60, Hartmut could copy him > under these conditions. >> Your wish is my command ---- transmitting QRSS60 overnight..... thanks for the input. Power up to an incredible 90 watts so hoping for a miracle ! Mitch From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExIag-00022Q-Nh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExIag-000221-Js for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExIa0-0004LZ-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:38:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExIZx-0004LQ-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:38:29 +0000 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExJ8K-0005T2-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:14:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 41027 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2006 09:38:13 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by unix.dx with SMTP; 13 Jan 2006 09:38:13 +0300 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:37:56 +0300 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <167477644.20060113093756@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <43C6CD73.9030906@mail.ru> References: <000201c6179b$1ea24ac0$e6a4c593@RD40002> <43C6CD73.9030906@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi rsgb_lf_group, 13-01-2006, 0:43 MSK(+3 GMT), M0BMU wrote: D> Will look out for the signal - where is the actual QTH of RX9BS? QTH-Loc MO05UI nr Chelyabinsk 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:28:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExLEe-00014C-1a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:28:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExLEd-00012i-TN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:28:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExLDt-0004hI-2B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:27:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExLDs-0004h9-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:27:52 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExMQH-0004Oo-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:45:02 +0000 Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060113092345.KAPC25022.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:23:45 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060113092344.BJYU24348.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:23:44 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:23:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43C77194.18481.11D80D8@localhost> In-reply-to: <001301c61797$74fbd700$15e8fc3e@l8p8y6> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: Re: RX9BS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > > RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. > > dfcw30, frequency about 137774 > > RA3YO > Hi Dmitri. > I will call u on ur Freq on QRS 20 if I can see or hear you. Pse look > out for me, Tnx de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH Mal, As you will know, on the HF bands it is bad practice to reply to a DX station exactly on its own frequency. The same applies to LF. If RX6BS does not receive you, he will call again immediately, but nobody will be able to see his call for more than 30 minutes as you continue calling him. This could well prevent eastern-Eu stations making a QSO. An Argo screen set for 30s dots is over 6Hz wide, so I suggest you call at least 2Hz off his frequency. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:37:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExNFa-0005tM-CZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:37:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExNFZ-0005sw-Vg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:37:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExNFA-00056o-8l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:37:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExNF9-00056f-Nw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:37:19 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExNne-0007rr-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:13:00 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006011311362801400di111e>; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:36:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61835$9abc41c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:36:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 13 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Some static good signal levels...captures at http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html. Over the past week or two I've been noticing a 'quiet period' before local dark where the TA signals stand out unusually well. After that period the signals seem to fade into the noise for an hour or two and reappear at a stronger 'full' night time levels. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:07:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExNim-0006J6-6m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExNim-0006HM-2P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:07:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExNi7-0005Ef-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:07:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExNi6-0005EW-Tf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:07:14 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExOGc-00088v-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:42:55 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0DC1I3g026398 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:01:19 -0500 Received: from server (dial-162.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.162]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0DC3Kt3028793 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:03:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02a201c61838$8591d500$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43C67E49.7010702@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:56:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: TA overnite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello LFers, CT1DRP made a brief appearance here around 02:15 UTC, but no sign of any of the others. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:13:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExQc5-0003mv-Aj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:13:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExQc5-0003m4-2N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:13:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExQbC-0005gs-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:12:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExQbB-0005gj-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:12:17 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExR9j-0000v7-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:48:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 34539 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2006 15:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.149.185 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2006 15:11:08 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c61853$962b2540$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61835$9abc41c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:11:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA 13 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks for that comment Jay. I have just been discussing the timing of Brian's signal popping up on you screen, with him. We were trying to decide what the hop mode was and I was saying that the start of the signal was appearing in what I call the pre-sunset "dip" (**) this is not so noticable on E<>W signal but is much more noticable on N<>S paths. My guess is that this reduction in daytime skywave just before sunset cuts back the noise you are getting, by skywave, from the "industrial centres". The signal from Brian is reaching you when the darkness edge at the altitude of the D/ lower E-layer is only around mid-path (about 1000km east of Newfoundland) thus the intitial signal is possibly a single hop (!!) I would have to plot a Great circle from Brian to you to determine this accurately. It is unlikely that there is another daytime skywave hop at the western end as, because of the "dip" the D-layer will not really support it late in the winter afternoon. As the time progresses, and the darkness edge moves closer to you, the 2 hop signal begins to rise in strength and the first thing it does is to interfere with the one hop, giving you a dip, or fade, then a rise to a stronger level. The two hop signal will always be stronger than the one hop, which has quite a struggle and is probably attenuated by diffraction at both ends of the path. Thanks for sharing this information It is amazing what interesting snippets crop up, all helping to give me ideas about what going on. (**) see Brian's plots of DCF39 following the prop report on my web site and look at the difference between mid-day and morning and "evening" (Tea time in the UK.....but I dont want throwing in the harbour !! ) levels. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Rusgrove To: Sent: 13 January 2006 11:36 Subject: LF: TA 13 JAN 06 > Some static good signal levels...captures at > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html. > > Over the past week or two I've been noticing a 'quiet period' before > local dark where the TA signals stand out unusually well. After that > period the signals seem to fade into the noise for an hour or two and > reappear at a stronger 'full' night time levels. > > Jay, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:22:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExQlC-0005So-IX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:22:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExQlC-0005QS-Bb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:22:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExQks-0005mo-KW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:22:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExQks-0005mf-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:22:18 +0000 Received: from smtpout0132.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.132] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExRxO-0008HH-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:39:34 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.80) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD00034276 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:21:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61855$0b2070c0$50e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43C67E49.7010702@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:21:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: LF: RX9BS > Hi Lf group! > > RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. > dfcw30, frequency about 137774 Hi Dmitri I will look for u for a possible qso around ur freq will also work 7030 khz for xband. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > Dmitri > RA3YO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:46:23 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExR86-0002QQ-7W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:46:23 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExR85-0002Q5-Uh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:46:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExR7o-000603-0l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:46:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExR7n-0005zs-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:45:59 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExRgM-0001LY-4Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:21:44 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006011315454801400dgchue>; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:45:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c6185a$c7dfe420$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61835$9abc41c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000e01c61853$962b2540$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:02:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 13 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Alan
 
Thanks for the explanation...as always it's most fascinating.
 
I hadn't noticed this effect in past years...probably due to recent improvements in the receive setup that allow me to "see" signals earlier and better than in previous years.
 
Keep me posted on the single hop theory.
 
Jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Melia
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:11 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA 13 JAN 06

Thanks for that comment Jay. I have just been discussing the timing of
Brian's signal popping up on you screen, with him. We were trying to decide
what the hop mode was and I was saying that the start of the signal was
appearing in what I call the pre-sunset "dip" (**) this is not so noticable
on E<>W signal but is much more noticable on N<>S paths. My guess is that
this reduction in daytime skywave just before sunset cuts back the noise you
are getting, by skywave, from the "industrial centres". The signal from
Brian is reaching you when the darkness edge at the altitude of the D/ lower
E-layer is only around mid-path (about 1000km east of Newfoundland) thus the
intitial signal is possibly a single hop (!!) I would have to plot a Great
circle from Brian to you to determine this accurately. It is unlikely that
there is another daytime skywave hop at the western end as, because of the
"dip" the D-layer will not really support it late in the winter afternoon.

As the time progresses, and the darkness edge moves closer to you, the 2 hop
signal begins to rise in strength and the first thing it does is to
interfere with the one hop, giving you a dip, or fade,  then a rise to a
stronger level. The two hop signal will always be stronger than the one hop,
which has quite a struggle and is probably attenuated by diffraction at both
ends of the path.

Thanks for sharing this information It is amazing what interesting snippets
crop up, all helping to give me ideas about what going on.

(**) see Brian's plots of DCF39 following the prop report on my web site and
look at the difference between mid-day and morning and "evening" (Tea time
in the UK.....but I dont want throwing in the harbour !! ) levels.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Rusgrove <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 13 January 2006 11:36
Subject: LF: TA 13 JAN 06


> Some static good signal levels...captures at
> http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html.
>
> Over the past week or two I've been noticing a 'quiet period' before
> local dark where the TA signals stand out unusually well. After that
> period the signals seem to fade into the noise for an hour or two and
> reappear at a stronger 'full' night time levels.
>
> Jay, W1VD
>
>

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:07:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExX4W-0001WZ-Vb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:07:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExX4W-0001WT-RJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:07:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExX3V-0006ji-5A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:05:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExX3U-0006jZ-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:05:56 +0000 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExYG4-000454-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:23:19 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.272.40464d4 (4410) for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <272.40464d4.30f97d44@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:01:40 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Re: TA 13 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Alan, Jay, Joe and Group,

yes, propagation seems a bit unusual these days, also background noise has been relatively low here. VO1NA, who did an all-night show Jan 11/12, appeared only once around 4:15 last night. However NPG Dixon left its blue line on 135925.2 from midnight well into the day ~ 11 UT.

On 100 kHz, I had my Loran-C time-domain logging system running during this week, and got pulse traces from Alaska and Pacific for many hours. Last night, some West Coast stations (Fallon, Searchlight, George, Middletown) showed up for the first time.
http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/LoranView/LoranView_2006.htm

Hope this may provide a little additional input to the interesting propagation discussions ;-)

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:56:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExgGZ-0004CU-I6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:56:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExgGZ-0004Bp-96 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:56:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExgFn-0007Zb-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:55:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExgFm-0007ZS-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:55:14 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExhSZ-0007pn-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:12:46 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ExgEY-0003Nn-00; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:53:58 +0100 Received: from dl4eau (ZwCbjcZpoe+VvYDk6ny8mJdaRcuxvaGH44tEcjCF1R-EMYShjhk1ga@[217.245.116.65]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1ExgEB-1w4b4K0; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:53:35 +0100 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:53:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <272.40464d4.30f97d44@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-ID: ZwCbjcZpoe+VvYDk6ny8mJdaRcuxvaGH44tEcjCF1R-EMYShjhk1ga X-TOI-MSGID: 0f5a4416-2a8e-43d0-a928-3524ca9846ad Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020107080501090106070509" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020107080501090106070509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi LF group,
 
good morning!
 
have seen VO1NA for my first time. I am very happy!
 
Signals are very good the whole night!
 
73' TOM DL4EAU JO51DR
 
antenna 14m vertikal toploaded; RX IC735 with 10MHz transverter.
 
 
 
 
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(james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.118.170 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2006 11:48:46 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.17/229]); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:48:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61900$6aa91c80$aa768351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c6179b$1ea24ac0$e6a4c593@RD40002> <43C6CD73.9030906@mail.ru> <167477644.20060113093756@dx.ru> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:48:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS, TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050200020707000503070901" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050200020707000503070901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF Group, I monitored frequencies around 137.774kHz last night, but unfortunately did not see anything identifiable as a signal from RX9BS. NA was visible all night from 2100 to 0900, although quite weak in heavy QRN. I had a CW QSO with F6BWO (Loc JN28NC) this morning; he reports "O" copy of VO1NA on mornings of 12th and 14th of January, and of WD2XES on 10th, on both occasions using Argo on QRSS30 settings. Jeff does not have internet access, so is "working somewhat blind" as he put it. While working Jeff, a carrier appeared on about 136.5kHz, and remained intermittently for about half an hour around 1100utc. It had odd jumps in frequency (see attachment), and seemed to be a deliberate signal, but did not respond to calls. Any ideas? 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Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExkW4-0004Yr-Ty for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:28:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExkW4-0004Xd-PR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:28:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExkVc-00080n-Uv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:27:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExkVc-00080e-GA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:27:52 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exl4c-000797-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:04:04 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011412270101100ddbgbe>; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:27:06 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c61905$d4e13e20$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:27:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 14 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Summertime static levels after dark...grrrr...only a couple late afternoon captures. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:26:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExlPx-0005DT-8k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:26:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExlPw-00057z-PM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:26:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExlPN-0008AN-SJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:25:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExlPN-0008AE-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:25:29 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExlyN-0007Ux-B1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:01:42 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ExlOL-0004hk-00; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:24:25 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bLppv+ZloeO0RdFvZ5mTtOPFk1S4-hIn-i-D-HeN3vOT5vFPjzaA6C@[84.133.116.28]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ExlOG-0ekXMO0; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:24:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:24:20 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1183853148.20060114142420@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bLppv+ZloeO0RdFvZ5mTtOPFk1S4-hIn-i-D-HeN3vOT5vFPjzaA6C X-TOI-MSGID: 629136be-eae9-4a18-add9-51e395856868 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 13/14th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) For the first time weak traces of "MP" from VE3OT identified, here. Very few signs appeared here about 20:25-20:55 UTC. The overlay with a capture of the KI0LE grabber matches. After 21:00 the noise raises up and nothing of "MP" captured overnight. >From Joe, VO1NA first weak traces visible at 17:00 UTC. The signal became stronger from 18:00 and good until 22:30. The 23:00 segment was poor and from 00:00-07:30 the signal was strong. Fade out 09:30 UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exm1M-0007CY-Cn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exm1M-0007CK-7d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Exm10-0008IG-DZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Exm0z-0008I7-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:04:21 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exma2-0007iz-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:40:35 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Exm0y-0006uo-00; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:04:20 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GvZCv0ZLZemaidyIWvog2HbjBLFs-5131mnIpN4vLSCGBxYDxONZcs@[84.133.116.28]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Exm0q-0xujgm0; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:04:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:04:11 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <709560803.20060114150411@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GvZCv0ZLZemaidyIWvog2HbjBLFs-5131mnIpN4vLSCGBxYDxONZcs X-TOI-MSGID: 213e114d-5182-4e4e-8ea2-392d245228a0 Subject: LF: Who is this? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000507010706000702090809" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000507010706000702090809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Who is this? See attachment. 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<000201c6179b$1ea24ac0$e6a4c593@RD40002> <43C6CD73.9030906@mail.ru> <167477644.20060113093756@dx.ru> <000c01c61900$6aa91c80$aa768351@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <000c01c61900$6aa91c80$aa768351@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: Re: RX9BS, TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von James Moritz : > While working Jeff, a carrier appeared on about 136.5kHz, and remained > intermittently for about half an hour around 1100utc. It had odd jumps in > frequency (see attachment), and seemed to be a deliberate signal, but did > not respond to calls. Any ideas? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > Hi Jim, I would say, the typical signs of a newcomer testing his just finished PA. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exmfd-0006cP-O5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exmfd-0006a0-JH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Exmeq-000054-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:45:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Exmep-00004v-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:45:31 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exnrj-0002Ju-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:03:10 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.294.3cd26f6 (3850) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <294.3cd26f6.30fa6790@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:41:20 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: Who is this? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Hartmut,

looks greenish on my screen, indicating southwesterly origin. Unfortunately the DF is not too clear due to SMPS interference on the loops.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

Who is this? See attachment.

Hartmut


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exmfk-00088M-IY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exmfk-00086s-6R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExmfX-00005V-S5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExmfX-00005M-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:46:15 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExnEa-0007wo-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:22:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 91069 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2006 14:46:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.200.56 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2006 14:46:12 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:47:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <709560803.20060114150411@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: Who is this? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040904070900080500070301" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040904070900080500070301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Also visible on the G3YXM grabber. No idea what it is, though.. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 14 January 2006 14:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who is this? Who is this? See attachment. 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--------------040904070900080500070301-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:57:54 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exnmp-00045s-0R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:57:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exnmo-000439-Lq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:57:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Exnlw-0000Kj-4q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:56:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Exnlv-0000Ka-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:56:55 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExoKy-0008Ht-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:33:11 +0000 Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060114155645.WCRP6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:56:45 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060114155642.WBWC24348.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:56:42 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:56:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43C91F2E.4432.109F155@localhost> In-reply-to: <000c01c61900$6aa91c80$aa768351@w4o8m9> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080504000300010101090109" Subject: Re: LF: Re: RX9BS, TA X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080504000300010101090109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I monitored for RX9BS overnight but saw little on 137.774kHz. The attached image shows something just below this frequency (in the picture, '0' is exactly 137.774kHz) at around 2130-2200UTC. At the same time something can be seen about 1Hz lower - was he using 1Hz shift?. VO1NA can be seen 3Hz higher in bad ionospheric noise. Mike, G3XDV ========== --------------080504000300010101090109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="Attachment information..txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Attachment information..txt" The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: 13jan06.jpg Date: 14 Jan 2006, 15:48 Size: 26611 bytes. 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: LF: RX9BS > Hi Lf group! > > RX9BS will be activity 13 jan from 19z. > dfcw30, frequency about 137774 > > Dmitri > RA3YO Nil heard from RX9BS last nite. I looked between 19 and 21z then gave up. Did anyone else see any trace. de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:45:49 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExoXF-0003M4-8v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:45:49 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExoXF-0003Li-2X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:45:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExoX1-0000ZO-Ll for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:45:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExoX1-0000ZF-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:45:35 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Expjv-0003Qs-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:03:15 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Jan 2006 16:45:12 -0000 Received: from Af3b4.a.pppool.de (HELO kc61d0682c4d14) [213.6.243.180] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 14 Jan 2006 17:45:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17603633 Message-ID: <002701c61929$ecf3ec00$b4f306d5@kc61d0682c4d14> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:45:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: LF: Out off topics: Candlelight Test (3) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello dear lf group,
 
to whom it may concern:
 
I´ve just (20060114-1635 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a pre-test on 1919.200 / 1919.202 kHz with 2 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 10, double space, 3 seconds gap. Text: dk1is jn59wk 2mw , followed by fast cw id dk1is with 15 bpm. At 20060115-0800 utc I´ll change to the usual codeword transmission.
 
If you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad again to get a report!
 
Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:12:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExoxC-00017M-AA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:12:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExoxC-00016w-6p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:12:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExowU-0000hH-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:11:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExowU-0000h8-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:11:54 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExpVa-0000Rv-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:48:11 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:18210 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExovF-000LfG-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:10:37 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c6192d$621d2de0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43C91F2E.4432.109F155@localhost> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:10:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RX9BS, TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Mike, I have seen the same last night, bought found it to unclear to report. 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt in JO11tm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:07:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Expoh-0008Ss-Rf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:07:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Expoh-0008Qh-LN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:07:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExpoC-0000rC-2J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:07:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExpoB-0000r3-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:07:23 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exr17-0004at-8V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:25:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 29485 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2006 18:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.108.22?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.108.22 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2006 18:07:06 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.17/229]); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:06:39 +0000 Message-ID: <003501c61935$445acbc0$166c7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:06:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: RA3YO Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
Saw RA3YO calling in QRSS10 earlier today at about 1250utc, around 137.710kHz. The signal was quite weak but usable - I tried calling with an "M" report, but no reply. After that, I had to go out, so I could not try again.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:02:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExtTK-0005l1-Il for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:02:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExtTK-0005ej-9i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:02:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ExtS5-0001Ht-Tf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:00:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ExtS4-0001Hk-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:00:49 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exu1H-000345-96 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:37:12 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011421595701300dacr4e>; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:00:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:59:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040504040208000001050702" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040504040208000001050702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
No ultra early reception today - likely due to static from storm off the US east coast. First sign of CT1DRP at 2130Z with good signal levels:
 
 
Static somewhat less than an hour ago...perhaps storm is dissipating.
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
 
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:17:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exthj-0000IM-6T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:17:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exthj-0000H7-2b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:16:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Extgv-0001OX-2o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:16:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Extgu-0001OO-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:16:08 +0000 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exutv-0007Lv-3C for 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I was testing my new 1MW amp it was clearly TIL ;-) Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:04 AM Subject: LF: Who is this? > Who is this? See attachment. > > > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:28:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Extsw-0007PA-Bf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:28:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Extsw-0007Mr-7f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:28:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Extsa-0001V7-El for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:28:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Extsa-0001Uy-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:28:12 +0000 Received: from mxout01.versatel.de ([212.7.152.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExuRn-0003DV-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:04:36 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0EMR4wN030814 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:27:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0EMR4ML024534 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:27:04 +0100 Received: from i577a5419.versanet.de (i577a5419.versanet.de [87.122.84.25]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:27:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20060114232704.od5rm4nt9bw0s888@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:27:04 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Jay Rusgrove : > No ultra early reception today - likely due to static from storm off > the US east coast. First sign of CT1DRP at 2130Z with good signal > levels: > > > > Static somewhat less than an hour ago...perhaps storm is dissipating. > > Jay, W1VD > Hi all, sri for not beeing on the air. I was out (family obligations). now at 2225UTC the TX is on. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:22:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exvei-0003eV-6p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Exvei-0003dk-2y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:22:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Exvdz-0001kg-7E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:21:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Exvdy-0001kX-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:21:14 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ExwDC-0003p1-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:57:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 846 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 00:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.50.134?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.50.134 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 00:20:10 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.17/229]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:19:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:19:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU is now (from 0000utc) QRV in beacon mode, using DFCW with 40s elements and 0.2Hz shift, centred on 136.3175kHz. Any reports very welcome. DJ8WX and CT1DRP are also visible tonight here.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:37:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExvtC-0007Q5-Lg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:37:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ExvtC-0007PU-Ho for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:36:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Exvst-0001r9-AH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:36:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Exvss-0001r0-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:36:38 +0000 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Exx5v-0008RQ-Js for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:54:26 +0000 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with SMTP id <20060115003607.SWDJ15333.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:36:07 -0700 Message-ID: <019e01c6196b$c9456080$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:36:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL - sinewave 120 now EOM Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:34:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey3LB-0000Ah-8I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:34:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey3LB-0000AB-4y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:34:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey3KO-00043k-Pp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:33:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey3KO-00043b-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:33:32 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ey4XW-00018R-RY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:51:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 68771 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 08:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.73.239?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.73.239 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 08:33:14 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.18/230]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:32:47 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:32:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU transmitted a beacon signal from about 0000utc until 0523, at which point the TX power supply failed.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:20:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey5wB-0000ZY-RZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:20:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey5wB-0000ZQ-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:20:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey5vQ-0004Jw-H6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:19:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey5vQ-0004Jn-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:19:56 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ey6Us-0007DX-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:56:36 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Ey5vM-00083b-02; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:19:52 +0100 Received: from HW1 (ZeDSyaZaweE5Oe7r62HhRk6LaWB49iGiZehpHAop2jx+VQW1mqhQo9@[84.133.80.101]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Ey5vA-2AYgng0; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:19:40 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:19:39 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <171785129.20060115121939@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ZeDSyaZaweE5Oe7r62HhRk6LaWB49iGiZehpHAop2jx+VQW1mqhQo9 X-TOI-MSGID: 2e8c11b8-852b-4c4a-94de-a81559248b8f Subject: LF: TA Jan, 14/15th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Again very high noise level last night. I saw only VO1NA, fade in about 17:00 UTC and fade out 07:30 UTC. The signal was not visible 21:00-23:00 and 00:30-03:15, probably off at that time. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:30:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey71b-0007fd-Qf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:30:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey71b-0007c2-Mz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:30:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey70Q-0004SB-6B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:29:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey70N-0004S2-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:29:07 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ey7Zr-0007Oq-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:05:49 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011512282101100dbtuve>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:28:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c619cf$2c2e6300$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:28:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 15 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Moderate static pre sunset...very high static during the overnight. Only one early capture of CT1DRP and fragments after that: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Looks like this storm is going to be moving slowly over the Canadian Maritimes so we could be in for another day (or two) of the same...will continue monitoring. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:35:16 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey76I-00088w-Ma for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:35:16 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey76I-00088V-GJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:35:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey763-0004Xh-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:34:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey762-0004XY-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:34:58 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ey8JH-0002p6-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:52:58 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011512343601100dd30ee>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:34:36 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c619d0$0b8cb2e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:34:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jim Sorry to hear about the power supply...by 0500Z even the normally solid white loran lines had all but disappeared. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:32 AM Subject: LF: Re: TA Dear LF Group, M0BMU transmitted a beacon signal from about 0000utc until 0523, at which point the TX power supply failed. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:02:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey7WI-0001Z3-RF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:02:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ey7WI-0001Yu-OL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:02:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey7W0-0004eM-RZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:01:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ey7W0-0004eD-Ct for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:01:48 +0000 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ey85V-0007XG-Ur for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:38:31 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0FD1eos003770 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:31:40 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0FD1dDE003868 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:31:39 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0FD1dgH005957; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:31:39 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:31:39 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> Message-ID: References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim and Group, I saw your sigs on 137.317 but still having trouble with noise (AC buzz). 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:59:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyAHX-00036h-3g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:59:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyAHW-00036F-TI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:59:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyAGo-0004rU-73 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:58:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyAGn-0004rL-JG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:58:17 +0000 Received: from fh1027.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.37] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyBU5-0004ee-6V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:16:20 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.233.11) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C15203000B5192 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:56:06 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c619ec$264266e0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:55:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA

Dear LF Group,
 
M0BMU transmitted a beacon signal from about 0000utc until 0523, at which point the TX power supply failed.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
Jim
This QRS business is severe on PA fets and some psu's, especially the slower crawls. Anything beyond QRS 3 - 10 could be fatal over long periods for most rigs. Any sudden antenna instability, windy condx, showers then sunshine ie SWR variations are tricky at the vy slow speeds, even the Decca Jeeps have been know to blow smoke in amateur applications.
Hope u get it fixed soon, you are a big signal especally at night time when ur antenna is higher, YXM is also very strong with me and I do like the competition.  
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:25:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyFNN-0005Ex-Kx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:25:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyFNN-0005Eo-HY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyFMb-0005EN-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:24:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyFMb-0005EE-BE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:24:37 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyGZu-0000T2-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:42:45 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EyFMI-0000gD-00; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:24:18 +0100 Received: from HW1 (rw5NF4Z6Qep6xdQW24Hsr2s874N1NfFLXvXwMbFiOuWE6b-ZU+e0rk@[84.133.78.183]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EyFM9-0GsJ5k0; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:24:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:24:10 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <991493757.20060115222410@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rw5NF4Z6Qep6xdQW24Hsr2s874N1NfFLXvXwMbFiOuWE6b-ZU+e0rk X-TOI-MSGID: a45ff033-f323-4c36-8ade-67c4c2bbb8a6 Subject: LF: EU activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Saw a lot of EU activity in QRSS today. Added screenshots of OK2BVG, OK1DTN, S57A, PA0BWL, G3KEV, G4WGT and PA3CPM to website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:43:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyGbM-0006QA-3V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:43:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyGbL-0006OT-Hi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:43:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyGa1-0005Nj-Mr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyGa1-0005Na-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from [83.221.140.45] (helo=mailserver1.webhot2.dk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyHnN-0000su-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:00:42 +0000 Received: from oz7qcdell [80.63.129.70] by mailserver1.webhot2.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.21) id AFC00C34; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:42:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c61a24$aeccccc0$0d00a8c0@oz7qcdell> From: "OZ7QC" To: "LF Reflektor" Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:40:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for SPAM and VIRUSES by Declude 2.0.5 Subject: LF: VO1NA 140106 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030809080102060904070602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030809080102060904070602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
 
Some good trace of VO1NA during the 14 Januar and and general week trace during the 15th.
 
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Quoting Mal...
 
"This QRS business is severe on PA fets and some psu's, especially the slower crawls. Anything beyond QRS 3 - 10 could be fatal over long periods for most rigs. Any sudden antenna instability, windy condx, showers then sunshine ie SWR variations are tricky at the vy slow speeds, even the Decca Jeeps have been know to blow smoke in amateur applications."
 
I don't buy that at all.
 
My station has run 24/7 for extended periods at max power with a floppy vertical to deal with the 'Pacific breeze' and rarely if ever have I lost a FET and never a power supply... All my FET failures can be classed as operator error not environmental factors... My only FET death this year was caused by arcing to my nearby 80m dipole.  It arced for a good 30minutes by the look of the grab I was sent and then one of the FETs in the TX shorted...
 
The trick is ensuring good cooling and sizing of the parts, particularly ferrites.  If there is a danger to the FETs its when you're doing that old switched carrier mode rather rapidly and only if you haven't taken good care of the transients on the FET drains ;-)
 
Sorry Mal but my observations during prolonged and rapid weather changes don't indicate that amateur transmitters are so delicate that they can't handle long QRSS dot modes...  I've run my sinewave (QRSS near-infinity) for weeks on end without trouble during all kinds of weather events...
 
I have data if you want to see it...
 
Scott
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:46:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyJRo-0005Il-9z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:46:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyJRo-0005I8-2x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:46:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyJQw-0005lk-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:45:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyJQv-0005lb-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:45:21 +0000 Received: from avalon.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyKeL-0001oE-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:03:34 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by avalon.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0G1hwmO006266 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:13:58 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0G1hwDE012154 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:13:58 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0G1hwIW009686; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:13:58 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:13:57 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004d01c61a34$af113580$0201a8c0@private.network> Message-ID: References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c619ec$264266e0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> <004d01c61a34$af113580$0201a8c0@private.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Good sigs from (DJ8)WX and CT1DRP this evening around 0000 UTC near 136.318 kHz. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EySV7-0004kG-VH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EySV7-0004gx-Jf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EySUC-0006Sy-Le for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:25:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EySUC-0006Sp-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:25:20 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyT48-0007SL-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:02:31 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006011611242801500abs4me>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:24:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:24:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 16 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) High static levels again last night although CT1DRP visible to varying degrees from 2145 - 0753Z. Only slight traces of WX. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Static should begin to quiet down as the storm heads NE. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:23:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyX8W-00082B-QQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:23:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyX8W-00080K-CF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:23:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyX7N-0006tp-AS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:22:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyX7M-0006tg-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:22:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout0165.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.165] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyXhQ-0001Pj-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:59:21 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.130) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C554450007D60A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:21:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c61ab8$e82855e0$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c619ec$264266e0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> <004d01c61a34$af113580$0201a8c0@private.network> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:16:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
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Quoting Mal...
 
"This QRS business is severe on PA fets and some psu's, especially the slower crawls. Anything beyond QRS 3 - 10 could be fatal over long periods for most rigs. Any sudden antenna instability, windy condx, showers then sunshine ie SWR variations are tricky at the vy slow speeds, even the Decca Jeeps have been know to blow smoke in amateur applications."
 
I don't buy that at all.
 
My station has run 24/7 for extended periods at max power
 
What is max power, ie a 100 w or so or 1kw ? You can get away with a lot at low power but at higher levels it is a different story, also the protection circuit used plays a critical part, if it works properly and closes the PA down at the slighest breeze then you will not have a problem. Most amateur FET rigs do not have a lot of protection and are therefore vunerable.
 
 
with a floppy vertical to deal with the 'Pacific breeze' and rarely if ever have I lost a FET and never a power supply... All my FET failures can be classed as operator error not environmental factors... My only FET death this year was caused by arcing to my nearby 80m dipole.  It arced for a good 30minutes by the look of the grab I was sent and then one of the FETs in the TX shorted...
 
Some operators around the UK are running the DECCA amp at 1.2 kw, had you been using this power you would probably have burnt the housed down instead of just one FET.
I will keep an eye out for SMOKE in your direction, I am more likely to see this than hear you on cw.
 
 
The trick is ensuring good cooling and sizing of the parts, particularly ferrites.  If there is a danger to the FETs its when you're doing that old switched carrier mode rather rapidly and only if you haven't taken good care of the transients on the FET drains ;-)
 
Sorry Mal but my observations during prolonged and rapid weather changes don't indicate that amateur transmitters are so delicate that they can't handle long QRSS dot modes...  I've run my sinewave (QRSS near-infinity) for weeks on end without trouble during all kinds of weather events...
 
I have data if you want to see it...
 
I believe you but let me know what happens when you get some real POWER into that wobbly antenna.
 
Scott
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:46:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyXVE-0007BZ-It for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:46:49 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyXVE-0006zW-3P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:46:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyXUM-00071v-Gd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:45:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyXUM-00071m-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:45:50 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyYhy-0001Hd-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:04:17 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EyXU3-0001fm-02; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:45:31 +0100 Received: from HW1 (XjDG70ZH8eHFaTeV7F0P6Fw+XRHmXKYBzLW3u9KWWdy2-bQsTC0R85@[84.133.120.210]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EyXTq-0pB1LE0; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:45:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:45:16 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <410264228.20060116174516@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XjDG70ZH8eHFaTeV7F0P6Fw+XRHmXKYBzLW3u9KWWdy2-bQsTC0R85 X-TOI-MSGID: 80813668-fe91-4cdc-aaf1-4f3476cfdc18 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 15/16th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Overall good reception of VO1NA and WD2XES last night. I've uploaded captures of the whole night 20:00-08:30 UTC to my website. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:31:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyb0w-0001VQ-NV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:31:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyb0w-0001V0-Jd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:31:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyazy-0007S3-Ab for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:30:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyazx-0007Ru-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:30:42 +0000 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyba7-0003CU-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:08:04 +0000 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-158.fen-net.de [212.204.117.38]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k0GKOfVp000967 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:24:41 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <005101c61ade$a59057c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:51:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear friends,
          DI2AG on 440.044KHz is again on air. Mode QRSS10, in this moment 0.4W ERP, but 2W ERP starting at 22z.
73     Walter    DJ2LF
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EybXe-0004M9-RQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EybXe-0004Ls-DM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EybXK-0007ZM-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EybXJ-0007ZD-RN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:09 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyc7U-0003QN-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:42:32 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20574 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EybXB-000P9T-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:02 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c61ae0$841f2d30$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005101c61ade$a59057c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:05:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Walter, At present I have aural copy of your QRSS10 signal and CW ID at 440.044 kHz. It suffers from the normal fading, but peaks 20 dB over my noise floor, which is -130 dBm in a 20 Hz bandwidth. Best regards, Roelof ========================================================= From: Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E Receiver: NDB: Tuneable pre-amp, SPM-30 with 20 Hz filter home made pitch shifter, 12 & 6 Hz active audio filters Aerial: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip-half pint (actual size: built in half a film canister) ========================================================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:42:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyd3c-000127-77 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:42:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyd3b-0000yj-Uh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:42:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyd2m-0007mN-Pn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:41:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyd2m-0007mE-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:41:44 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eydcy-0003xX-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:09 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GMfWuL019505 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:33 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GMfWoP021953 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:32 +0100 Received: from i577a4f31.versanet.de (i577a4f31.versanet.de [87.122.79.49]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:32 +0100 Message-ID: <20060116234132.jss0e6ldnj0g0880@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:32 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: LF: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Andy,G4JNT last EU nights my signs could be seen on the CT1BRT grabber in IN51QD ie 2120km/235dgr and at same times my signs where not visible on the screen of W1VD in FN31MS ie 5943 km/293dgr. and vv no signs on the CT1DRP grabber means the signs are visible on the W1VD screen. do you have an explanation? Regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:29:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eydn6-0002nR-FM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:29:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eydn6-0002nG-C7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:29:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EydmW-0007ty-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:29:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EydmV-0007tp-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:28:59 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyeMi-0004FU-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:06:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 37631 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 23:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.111.150 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 23:28:57 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c61af4$9db27ae0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20060116234132.jss0e6ldnj0g0880@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:23:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Uwe was this one meant for me ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 16 January 2006 22:41 Subject: LF: Propagation > Hi Andy,G4JNT > > last EU nights my signs could be seen on the CT1BRT grabber in IN51QD ie > 2120km/235dgr and at same times my signs where not visible on the screen of > W1VD in FN31MS ie 5943 km/293dgr. > and vv no signs on the CT1DRP grabber means the signs are visible on the W1VD > screen. > > do you have an explanation? > > Regards > Uwe/dj8wx > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:49:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eye6n-0007dz-W4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:49:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eye6n-0007cO-OH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:49:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eye6E-00080E-Fr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:49:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eye6D-000805-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:49:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyegQ-0004No-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:26:48 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0GNkO7l031869 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:25 -0500 Received: from server (dial-118.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.118]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0GNmSUF019257 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004101c61af7$54b17c80$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <019d01c61260$1389dbc0$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:47:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: CT1DRP early evening Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050603040904010101020002" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050603040904010101020002 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello LFers,
 
Here's a capture centered about 11:20 UTC, shortly after local dusk,
with a few solid fragments of CT1DRP.
 
 
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
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B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43BD0BA1.1050104@w1tag.com> <019d01c61260$1389dbc0$0b01a8c0@server> <004101c61af7$54b17c80$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:13:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: CT1DRP late evening Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello LFers,
 
I'm still seeing fairly strong fragments of CT1DRP at 03:15 UTC unlike
previous nights, where the signal would disappear after a brief early-
evening showing.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
EN93dr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:23:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyn3a-0007Ky-0m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:23:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyn3Z-0007Ju-St for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:23:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyn2j-0000T1-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:22:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyn2i-0000Ss-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:22:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout0181.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.181] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eynd4-0006t7-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:59:57 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.81) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C5544500093A1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:22:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c61b47$71571c00$51e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <991493757.20060115222410@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:28:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: EU activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: LF: EU activity > Saw a lot of EU activity in QRSS today. Added screenshots of OK2BVG, OK1DTN, > S57A, PA0BWL, G3KEV, G4WGT and PA3CPM to website: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm Hi Hartmut Nice shots of all the acty above on ur website. My signal looked strong for the distance and I was running less than 500w from my H/Brew TX. S57A called me after my CQ he is a good distance from me. Solid copy each way, but he was much stronger on my vertical. I have worked him before. I did see all the other signals as well at various times, I have worked them all before mostly on CW in the early days. Tnx de Mal/G3KEV > > > > 73 > > Hartmut > > Locator:JO52ho > www.h-wolff.de > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:02:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EynfN-0007aC-CX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:02:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EynfM-0007WP-4x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:02:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eynev-0000c9-MN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:01:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eynev-0000c0-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:01:49 +0000 Received: from mxout02.versatel.de ([212.7.152.119]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyoFL-000774-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:28 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HA0gHe022033 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:00:43 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HA0gSA022470 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:00:42 +0100 Received: from i577a4ae2.versanet.de (i577a4ae2.versanet.de [87.122.74.226]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:00:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117110042.4fiu7hkxcquscoos@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:00:42 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20060116234132.jss0e6ldnj0g0880@webmail.versatel.de> <001301c61af4$9db27ae0$67b0fea9@lark> In-Reply-To: <001301c61af4$9db27ae0$67b0fea9@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Alan Melia : > Hi Uwe was this one meant for me ?? > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > yes, Alan, sri for mixing up the callsigns. vy 73, Uwe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyoEx-0001Ao-Nz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyoEx-00015t-HG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyoDs-0000kI-4r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyoDr-0000k9-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:55 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyooG-0007K4-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:15:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 39672 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 10:37:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.81.75 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 10:37:50 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c61b52$10796fe0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL><20060116234132.jss0e6ldnj0g0880@webmail.versatel.de><001301c61af4$9db27ae0$67b0fea9@lark> <20060117110042.4fiu7hkxcquscoos@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Uwe, yes it is a bit confusing as at first sight one would expect the signals to be present or absent on both grabbers. At night I think the main mode is a hop length of about 2000 km. See http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/geometry.htm This is about the distance from Brian to DCF39. The night-time signals Brian recorded over several years were fairly consistent but did sometimes show severe dips in strength which I think are due to destructive interference (optical term) between the main mode and other paths (maybe a 2-hop path). The path to the States is roughly 6000kms which is 3 hops, but under conditions of low absorption it may be that a two hop signal (or a 4 hop signal) arrives, sometimes at a very similar strength. The result of this can be deep fades, but the timing does depend on the path length. It is interesting to watch Joe, Warren, John and Dex's signals. In particular although John and Warren are only about 80km apart there is a distinct difference in the times they fade and return....it can be as much as 15 to 20 minutes. The positive side to this effect is that if the phase difference is right you get a 6dB enhancement a short time later in the night. These are the "lifts" that lead to some of the first TA successes on 3 sec dot QRSS (all that was available at the time using Robert Horne's Spectrogram) Interesting stuff this LF propagation !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 17 January 2006 10:00 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Propagation last EU nights my signs could be seen on the CT1BRT grabber in IN51QD ie 2120km/235dgr and at same times my signs where not visible on the screen of W1VD in FN31MS ie 5943 km/293dgr. and vv no signs on the CT1DRP grabber means the signs are visible on the W1VD screen. do you have an explanation? > Zitat von Alan Melia : > > > Hi Uwe was this one meant for me ?? > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > > > > yes, Alan, sri for mixing up the callsigns. > > vy 73, Uwe > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:34:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyp6N-0006rb-Rb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:34:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyp6N-0006r5-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:34:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyp5z-0000vS-1y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyp5y-0000vJ-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:50 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EypgP-00086R-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:11:31 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006011711325501400f0glae>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:32:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Lower static levels...some longer than usual fading periods. Captures of CT1DRP and DJ8WX...no other stations active: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:54:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EypPo-0005xZ-WE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:54:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EypPo-0005w5-Q5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:54:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EypP6-00012J-MY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:53:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EypP6-00012A-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:53:36 +0000 Received: from avalon.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.61]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EypzY-0008Fn-JQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:31:17 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by avalon.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0HBqOxr030006 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:22:24 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0HBqNDE022689 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:22:23 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0HBqMC5019885; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:22:22 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:22:21 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Fair copy of DRP and WX last night also. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:39:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eysvo-0001B0-GD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:39:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eysvo-0001AW-88 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:39:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eysux-0001SO-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:38:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eysuw-0001SF-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:38:42 +0000 Received: from mxout01.versatel.de ([212.7.152.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyu8y-0005uj-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:57:31 +0000 Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HFbLeM009081 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:37:21 +0100 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx01.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HFbLLw001887 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:37:21 +0100 Received: from i577a637a.versanet.de (i577a637a.versanet.de [87.122.99.122]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:37:21 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117163721.2gxp24sev70ooss8@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:37:21 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Joe Craig : > Fair copy of DRP and WX last night also. > > 73 > Joe > > > thanks Joe, thanks Jay. I wonder if Bill/VE2IQ in FN15NT (5865km/299dgr) did activate his receiving equipment last night(s). regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyt9P-0007lP-2A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Eyt9O-0007kV-EF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyt96-0001Yn-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyt96-0001Ye-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:20 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eytje-0001sD-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:31:07 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Eyt86-00043R-01; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:52:18 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Sx8HfaZJ8ersME1H8JqYgWast2LyvJul7bj0bWqa1vOQ3wrHQtD-Ei@[84.133.88.117]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Eyt7p-1QQsAC0; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:52:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:51:59 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3910274336.20060117165159@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Sx8HfaZJ8ersME1H8JqYgWast2LyvJul7bj0bWqa1vOQ3wrHQtD-Ei X-TOI-MSGID: 43ce932b-b949-453d-9615-e64ee4acdc6e Subject: LF: Who was this? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080401000603070703060001" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080401000603070703060001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anybody claim the attached capture with a signal on 137.7735 last night. Antenna pointing at 310 degrees. Probably a signal from the east with attenuation of about 10-20db. YO? 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01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:59:10 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EytEi-0004qc-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:59:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EytEi-0004pP-JC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:59:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EytEM-0001en-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:58:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EytEM-0001ee-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:58:46 +0000 Received: from mxout03.versatel.de ([212.7.152.120]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyuSL-00063S-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:17:35 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx03.versatel.de [212.7.146.3]) by mxout03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HFwO99025636; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:58:24 +0100 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HFwMkY003432; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:58:22 +0100 Received: from i577a637a.versanet.de (i577a637a.versanet.de [87.122.99.122]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117165822.z8lpghsmckwsowcg@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:58:22 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Alan Melia References: <000701c61a8f$6ccf2c80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL><20060116234132.jss0e6ldnj0g0880@webmail.versatel.de><001301c61af4$9db27ae0$67b0fea9@lark> <20060117110042.4fiu7hkxcquscoos@webmail.versatel.de> <000a01c61b52$10796fe0$67b0fea9@lark> In-Reply-To: <000a01c61b52$10796fe0$67b0fea9@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Alan Melia : > Hi Uwe, yes it is a bit confusing as at first sight one would expect the > signals to be present or absent on both grabbers. > > At night I think the main mode is a hop length of about 2000 km. See > http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/geometry.htm > > This is about the distance from Brian to DCF39. The night-time signals Brian > recorded over several years were fairly consistent but did sometimes show > severe dips in strength which I think are due to destructive interference > (optical term) between the main mode and other paths (maybe a 2-hop path). > > The path to the States is roughly 6000kms which is 3 hops, but under > conditions of low absorption it may be that a two hop signal (or a 4 hop > signal) arrives, sometimes at a very similar strength. The result of this > can be deep fades, but the timing does depend on the path length. It is > interesting to watch Joe, Warren, John and Dex's signals. In particular > although John and Warren are only about 80km apart there is a distinct > difference in the times they fade and return....it can be as much as 15 to > 20 minutes. > > The positive side to this effect is that if the phase difference is right > you get a 6dB enhancement a short time later in the night. These are the > "lifts" that lead to some of the first TA successes on 3 sec dot QRSS (all > that was available at the time using Robert Horne's Spectrogram) > > Interesting stuff this LF propagation !! > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > OK. Alan, thanks. Im eager to see whether Bill/VE2IQ received any signs or not. Regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:44:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyusC-0000Aq-TA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:44:05 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyusB-000071-CL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:44:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyurH-0001wQ-SU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:43:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyurH-0001wH-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:43:03 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyw5I-0006rd-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:01:54 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Eyuq0-0006G0-01; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:41:44 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Gl+MfaZC8e6Q2mA47jtxmIs2Pub5fjXLpLXdL10fw1UkEJTfmInMU1@[84.133.119.71]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Eyupx-13moRU0; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:41:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:41:39 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <179176956.20060117184139@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Gl+MfaZC8e6Q2mA47jtxmIs2Pub5fjXLpLXdL10fw1UkEJTfmInMU1 X-TOI-MSGID: a345006e-7609-48b1-adee-4fcc830e6c51 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 16/17th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA visible here 22:00-09:30. Best 05:00-07:30 UTC. WD2XES started about 23:20 and last trace seen at about 09:10. Strong 03:30-04:30. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:32:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyvdJ-0002sq-VJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:32:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyvdJ-0002sE-SI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:32:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyvcr-00025y-MR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:32:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyvcm-00025p-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:32:08 +0000 Received: from outbound01.telus.net ([199.185.220.220] helo=priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eywqn-0007Rw-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:51:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([199.185.220.240]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060117183142.NNIF25747.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@localhost> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:31:42 -0700 Received: from 204.174.12.18 ( [204.174.12.18]) as user sthed475@192.168.200.1 by webmail.telus.net with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:31:42 -0800 Message-ID: <1137522702.43cd380e6cfef@webmail.telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:31:42 -0800 From: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3910274336.20060117165159@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <3910274336.20060117165159@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 204.174.12.18 Subject: Re: LF: Who was this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut That was Dex reviving his TX. Scott Quoting Hartmut Wolff : > Anybody claim the attached capture with a signal on 137.7735 last > night. Antenna pointing at 310 degrees. Probably a signal from the > east with attenuation of about 10-20db. YO? > > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:54:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EywuA-0007iF-Vp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:54:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EywuA-0007hV-Ql for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:54:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EywtO-0002Jk-47 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:53:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EywtN-0002Jb-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:53:21 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyy7T-00082n-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:12:14 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Eywt8-0000Ck-00; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:53:06 +0100 Received: from HW1 (V+GgByZ6we6laDtPkvHwWGJf5GvJ80xfLvFqj0OC4-zhO6-a4PMuZy@[84.133.124.181]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Eywsn-0Q7v720; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:52:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:52:40 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <336265412.20060117205240@t-online.de> To: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" In-Reply-To: <1137522702.43cd380e6cfef@webmail.telus.net> References: <3910274336.20060117165159@t-online.de> <1137522702.43cd380e6cfef@webmail.telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: V+GgByZ6we6laDtPkvHwWGJf5GvJ80xfLvFqj0OC4-zhO6-a4PMuZy X-TOI-MSGID: 6250922d-58ad-4757-be36-6240d7cffc78 Subject: Re: LF: Who was this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Scott, thanks. I didn't expected this. After a look on his website it's clear. Hartmut > Hartmut > That was Dex reviving his TX. > Scott > Quoting Hartmut Wolff : >> Anybody claim the attached capture with a signal on 137.7735 last >> night. Antenna pointing at 310 degrees. Probably a signal from the >> east with attenuation of about 10-20db. YO? >> >> Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:35:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyxY2-0000Zd-WA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:35:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyxY2-0000ZD-M6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:35:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyxXi-0002Ty-2I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:35:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyxXh-0002Tp-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:35:01 +0000 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyy8L-0003Ar-8B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:12:54 +0000 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-170.fen-net.de [212.204.117.50]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k0HKWHpw023148 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:32:17 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id k0HKWHpw023148 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hallo, dear Roelof, thanks for the interesting report. Last night I made a big mistake: When leaving DI2AG the "test"-switch was still ON, so there must have been a steady carrier for a long time. Will try to make it better when starting QRO at about 22z. Please Roelof tell me more about your Mini-Whip. Have never heard about it and have problems to imagine. 73 Walter DJ2LF -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Roelof Bakker An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Montag, 16. Januar 2006 22:03 Betreff: LF: Re: DI2AG >Hello Walter, > >At present I have aural copy of your QRSS10 signal and CW ID at 440.044 kHz. >It suffers from the normal fading, but peaks 20 dB over my noise floor, >which is -130 dBm in a 20 Hz bandwidth. > >Best regards, >Roelof >========================================================= >From: Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt >Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E > >Receiver: >NDB: Tuneable pre-amp, SPM-30 with 20 Hz filter >home made pitch shifter, 12 & 6 Hz active audio filters > >Aerial: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip-half pint (actual size: built in half a film >canister) >========================================================== > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:23:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyyID-0006Ca-5e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:23:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyyID-0006BM-1D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:23:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyyHR-0002d0-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:22:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyyHR-0002cr-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:22:17 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyys6-0003XY-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:00:11 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20866 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyyGC-000GX4-6H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:21:00 +0000 Message-ID: <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:20:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Walter, Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear your signal again now. (21:12 UTC) My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail it to you. 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:44:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyydD-0001NR-KZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:44:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyydD-0001N0-HR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:44:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyycr-0002km-Cs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Eyycr-0002kd-2O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:44:25 +0000 Received: from mx1.mail.ru ([194.67.23.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyzqx-0000rh-JW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:03:19 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.41] (port=1060 helo=mail.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1EyycZ-000B1I-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:44:07 +0300 Message-ID: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:45:06 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Lf group! Information from RX9BS : 13 jan was poor propagation to Eu. Oleg will be activity 20-21 jan from 19z. dfcw10-20, frequency about 137774 RX 5-10 HZ down Dmitri RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:32:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyzNI-0006UX-AQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:32:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EyzNI-0006Tu-58 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:32:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EyzMb-0002v1-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EyzMb-0002us-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:41 +0000 Received: from omc3-s36.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.110]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EyzxE-0003q0-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:09:36 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.117]) by omc3-s36.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:31:30 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:31:30 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Roelof Bakker" References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:31:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:31:30 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2006 22:31:30.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[C35E8560:01C61BB5] Subject: LF: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Roelof,
 
I would like to read about your tiny electric field probe antenna if you could email the pdf to me.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roelof Bakker
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG

Hello Walter,

Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a
fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear
your signal again now. (21:12 UTC)

My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local
noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field
probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a
small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available
as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail
it to you.

73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:16 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez5kw-0003jF-Ki for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez5kw-0003j9-Hh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez5js-0003Zz-DQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:20:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez5js-0003Zq-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:20:08 +0000 Received: from www.la-reunion.ird.fr ([193.50.206.1] helo=cilaos.la-reunion.ird.fr) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ez6Kd-0006Ko-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:58:11 +0000 Received: from tiros.la-reunion.ird.fr (arsene.la-reunion.ird.fr [193.50.206.3] (may be forged)) by cilaos.la-reunion.ird.fr (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k0I5JDnu009625 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:19:14 +0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20060118051653.00ababb8@cilaos.la-reunion.ird.fr> X-Sender: slep@cilaos.la-reunion.ird.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:19:20 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Mike Slepoukha Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi all ! I'm also interesting about the PA0RDT antenna pnf file. With 73 from Reunion Island Mike Mike SLEPOUKHA FR5 FI - F5ZZ Linux Canal Historique @ SEAS Satellite Receiving Station IRD - US 140 ESPACE P.O. Box 172 97492 Sainte Clotilde cedex F - Reunion Island 55.5 E 20.8 S ================================== Tel : 02 62 29 93 14 or ++ 262 262 29 93 14 fax : 02 62 28 48 79 or ++ 262 262 28 48 79 cel : 06 92 69 03 77 or ++ 262 692 69 03 77 ================================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:37:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez9lC-0007yg-DE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:37:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez9lA-0007xm-QH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:37:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez9kQ-0003xJ-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:36:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez9kQ-0003xA-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:36:58 +0000 Received: from relay3.mail.uk.clara.net ([80.168.70.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzAyi-00077l-F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:56:04 +0000 Received: from [80.168.178.131] (helo=mailserver.out-bound.co.uk) by relay3.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.46) id 1Ez9iw-000GuU-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:35:26 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:21:04 -0000 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Thread-Index: AcYbqsnOf071XwhkTLyDxjOtgBjxxAAZZxig From: "Glenn Bukin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof Please can you send me the pdf as well Many tnx Glenn Bukin G0HPS -----Original Message----- From: Roelof Bakker [mailto:roelof@ndb.demon.nl] Sent: 17 January 2006 21:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Hello Walter, Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear your signal again now. (21:12 UTC) My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail it to you. 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez9x8-00036v-0V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ez9x7-00034X-SJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez9wo-00044K-9o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:49:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ez9wn-00044B-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:49:45 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzBB7-0007EP-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:08:52 +0000 Received: from 88-106-195-54.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.195.54]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 09:49:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAJ2czUOHQSg Received: from 88-106-195-54.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.195.54]:4517 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ez9wN-000McY-6p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:49:19 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:49:45 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, It sounds an interesting antenna, please will send a copy of the pdf to me also. Thank you, Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker Sent: 17 January 2006 21:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Hello Walter, Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear your signal again now. (21:12 UTC) My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail it to you. 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:09:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBC9-00005u-Fa for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:09:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBC9-000051-93 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:09:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBBW-0004I3-2D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:09:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBBV-0004Hu-Ku for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:09:01 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzBmR-0007tZ-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:47:12 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzBBT-000538-05; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:59 +0100 Received: from oben (ZecLZqZGoe1knhCLMzxWmwaIOEiBNAZgLFN7a2ZACCqwtKM2osBl8R@[84.178.206.37]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EzB7X-08QSvI0; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c61c21$aebb5950$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: "LF_group" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:24:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: ZecLZqZGoe1knhCLMzxWmwaIOEiBNAZgLFN7a2ZACCqwtKM2osBl8R X-TOI-MSGID: 26c5ff4d-7939-4fd2-9f4f-d61d3d405097 Subject: LF: PA0RDT-Antenna X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Roelof, would you please send me that article too? Tnx in advance es 73 de Peter, dj9dw dj9dw@t-online.de you mailadress in dx-summit did not work, by the way. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:37:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBcn-0005HV-CL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:37:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBcn-0005GI-85 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:37:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBcU-0004QC-0v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:36:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBcT-0004Q3-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:36:53 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzCql-0007wg-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:56:02 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011811362201300d9r2me>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:36:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61c23$6b874ca0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:36:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 18 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Some static from approaching storm...good conditions overall. Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:45:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBlF-0000EE-E6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:45:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzBlE-0000Co-N3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:45:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBku-0004X1-65 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:45:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzBkt-0004Ws-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:45:35 +0000 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzCLq-00084U-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:23:47 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0IBiRos021019 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:14:27 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0IBiQDE024772 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:14:26 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0IBiQAS001065; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:14:26 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:14:26 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c61c23$6b874ca0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Message-ID: References: <000701c61c23$6b874ca0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 18 Jan Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Weaker sigs from DJ8WX and CT1DRP (137.317 kHz) last night in increased AC BUZZZZZZZ QRM. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:09:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzC7X-0007jo-Ph for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzC7X-0007jV-JA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzC7K-0004e7-OY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzC7K-0004dy-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:08:46 +0000 Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzCiF-000892-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:46:58 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7840D1C00192 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:08:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-4-248.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-4-248.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.70.248]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B249F1C001CA for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:08:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060118120836730.B249F1C001CA@mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:08:21 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <004d01c61a34$af113580$0201a8c0@private.network> Message-ID: References: <000c01c61955$de2ddce0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000b01c61969$5f7b1480$86327ad5@w4o8m9> <001101c619ae$436c1b00$ef497ad5@w4o8m9> <000f01c619ec$264266e0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> <004d01c61a34$af113580$0201a8c0@private.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Joe and all ! Two NA received JN09XI abt. 0200z ==> 0230 z and 0300 ==> 0330 z. 73 ! f5yg -- Jean-Pierre Godet - Powered by Linux (Slackware 10.0 - kernel 2.4.26) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:16:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCEQ-0003aP-LM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:16:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCEQ-0003UH-Ei for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:16:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCDs-0004kL-K3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCDs-0004kC-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from smtpout0148.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.148] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzDSD-0008F1-NK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:34:41 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.29) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD000BBDF4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:15:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61c28$c72b2180$1de8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:14:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: OBS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Alan and Co
Just for intrest. I monitored 136.9 khz last night around 2000z and observed CT1DRP, who was a good signal on my vertical antenna. I then switched to my 80m vert loop which is broadside on to Brian, and saw absolutely nothing.
This is to be expected I suppose since the loop is max East/West although I did expect to see something, even very weak.
My noise level at the time on the vertical measured 69.5 db and the signal from DRP 41.3 db indicating a signal over noise of 28.2 db.
Since I am the most northerly station active on LF from the UK and the greatest distance from DRP I thought the info might be helpful to you with your observations. Someone else might have recorded some info at the same time in EU.
One other observation. On my vertical the Rugby qrm signal is fairly consistant but with the loop it fades in and out, but again Rugby is south from me and min sig pickup, for example the display is absolutely clear of qrm then suddenly lines appear from Rughy and after a very short spell they disappear again. The angle of arrival and direction could be changing with propagation changes, or maybe my vertical is having an effect inducing the Rugby signal into my loop at times.
I suppose it is important when making propagation observations to consider antennas used for both transmitting and receiving at the various places. Since in the amateur service no two stations are using the same power and antennas it is difficult to come to a meaningful conclusion. 
Good luck with your propagation data experiments.
de Mal/G3KEV
   
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:27:10 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCP7-0002rj-TK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:27:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCP7-0002qH-On for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:27:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCOq-0004sR-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:26:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCOp-0004sI-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:26:51 +0000 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzDd8-0008L4-Bf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:46:00 +0000 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20060118122843.PELZ21004.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:28:43 +0100 Received: from y4x1l1 ([212.30.69.161]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20060118122631.KJHD6327.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:26:31 +0100 Message-ID: <009301c61c2a$5c5ada60$37421ed4@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:25:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Roelof Please can you send me the pdf as wel (mini-whip ant.). And info about pitch shifter;...12&6Hz (!)active audio filter..?!! I have use PA0LQ 30Hz au. filter... Thanks in advance Regards 73 , Joze S52AB http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG > Hello Walter, > > Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a > fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear > your signal again now. (21:12 UTC) > > My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local > noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field > probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a > small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available > as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail > it to you. > > 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCX0-00014j-QF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCX0-00013y-M5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCWl-0004yU-5o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCWk-0004yL-Ea for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:02 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzD7h-0008Id-IG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:15 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzCWh-0003um-08; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:34:59 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (VyL4PrZ1oeLzEXlRQeuoH5mYlbK6ImWiVQ0XPD6RKnd5t8VPQQ0U4Y@[84.145.216.127]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EzCWV-2DxbJQ0; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:34:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References: <000b01c61c21$aebb5950$ee9bfea9@oben> In-Reply-To: <000b01c61c21$aebb5950$ee9bfea9@oben> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0036 Date: 18 Jan 2006 12:34 GMT Message-ID: <1EzCWV-2DxbJQ0@fwd33.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: VyL4PrZ1oeLzEXlRQeuoH5mYlbK6ImWiVQ0XPD6RKnd5t8VPQQ0U4Y X-TOI-MSGID: 112e3d8f-ad13-4af8-a777-505f38432e7f Subject: Re: LF: PA0RDT-Antenna Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Roelof, I would also like to get your Antenna pdf. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "dj9dw" schrieb: > Hello Roelof, > would you please send me that article too? > Tnx in advance es 73 de > Peter, dj9dw > dj9dw@t-online.de > > you mailadress in dx-summit did not work, by the way. > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:05 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCca-0005Dn-PO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:05 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCca-00058D-9p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:04 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCbw-00055O-Db for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:40:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCbw-00055F-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:40:24 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzDCt-0008KH-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:18:37 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011812401401300d7vsie>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:40:14 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c61c2c$546546e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c61c21$aebb5950$ee9bfea9@oben> <1EzCWV-2DxbJQ0@fwd33.sul.t-online.de> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:40:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: PA0RDT-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof Please send info on antenna. Thanks. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCyj-000157-49 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCyi-00014Z-Os for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCxc-0005Dc-Vy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCxb-0005DT-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:02:48 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzDYY-0008PY-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:40:59 +0000 Received: from 88-106-195-54.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.195.54]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 13:02:35 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAMzGzUOHQCg Received: from 88-106-195-54.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.195.54]:4981 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzCuI-000DZI-9A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:59:22 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "Brian Rogerson" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:30 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Daytime CT1DRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Brian & LF, Having some time to spare I have just put LF Rx on to monitor & test different settings of SpecLab & was surprised to see your signal on 136.318khz. Do you usually transmit daytime or have you a special reason (I have not seen anything posted about daytime Tx). I am monitoring at qrss30 & it seems you are qrss60 but the signal is very strong using my 14 mtr LF vertical. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:04:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCyw-0003xO-ST for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:04:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzCyw-0003vZ-6y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:04:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCyf-0005E0-TM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzCyf-0005Dp-AC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:53 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzDZc-0008QC-LE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:42:05 +0000 Received: from Upstairs (pcp09345311pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net[69.140.101.192]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006011813030601400f299oe>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c61c2f$88eb7210$9865fea9@Upstairs> From: "Ralph Lane" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:03:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I would law[like a copy of your antenna description as well.
 
Ralph
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:27:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzDLk-0005ED-4H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:27:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzDLj-0005Bo-9y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:27:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzDJR-0005Qh-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:25:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzDJR-0005QY-3h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:25:21 +0000 Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.19] helo=amsfep19-int.chello.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzEXo-0000JG-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:44:31 +0000 Received: from MARLEEN ([24.132.154.183]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20060118123503.DRYB1861.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002901c61c2b$9ccba100$b79a8418@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:35:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Subject: LF: Re: mini-whip Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello Om Roelof ,
I,m also interested in your mini Whip .
Pse be so kind to mail me the pdf .
73,William PA0WFO
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:20 PM
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzEOT-0000FX-Bz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzEOT-0000Cj-2Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzENV-0005eb-FO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:33:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzENV-0005eS-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:33:37 +0000 Received: from liaar2aa.mx.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzFbt-0000nt-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:52:48 +0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by liaar2aa.mx.compuserve.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/r1.1) id k0IEX4G2032741 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:33:04 -0500 Received: from tcbonline (fra-tgn-oys-vty11.as.wcom.net [195.232.51.11]) by liaar2aa.mx.compuserve.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/r1.1) with SMTP id k0IEWvid032616 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c61c3c$34b60f40$0b33e8c3@tcbonline> From: "TDR Ltd" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c61ba8$e3a2f0c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <009501c61bab$e8989870$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:25:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87, clamav-milter version 0.87 on liaar2aa.mx.compuserve.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Roelof 
I would also like a copy of the pdf summary of your mini whip.
Seeing that a lot of us are interested
perhaps you might consider providing it
as an attachment to you next communication with this group?
 
'73'
Mike Button. G8YMB
email cameo_tdr_ltd@compuserve.com (Note that "underscore" characters are used)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roelof Bakker" <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DI2AG

>
> Hello Walter,
>
> Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a
> fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear
> your signal again now. (21:12 UTC)
>
> My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local
> noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field
> probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a
> small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available
> as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail
> it to you.
>
> 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzEti-00084g-Ly for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzEth-00082R-Id for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzEtI-0005mr-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzEtI-0005mi-4B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:28 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzG7f-00018r-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 86007 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 15:06:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.14.188 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 15:06:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c61c40$b9f0f9a0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Mini whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all my guess is that he will not get a lot of your requests as you posted to a spurious subject title...."DI2AG" To Mike I doubt whether an attached PDF would pass through the reflector it has a maximum allowed size of about 30kB to prevent enormous messages being sent to everyone. Direct post or posting to a web site is usually the best way of distributing to those that want the data. Personally I find loops a better bet for "indoor" aerials (LF and MF) as they are less affected by the local fields. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzF6q-0001T8-TG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzF6q-0001SN-QQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzF6U-0005tL-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzF6T-0005tC-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:05 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzFhS-0000i5-BA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:21 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter18.comcast.net ([204.127.197.128]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <200601181519470140025crme>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:19:52 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter18.comcast.net; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:19:46 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Roelof Bakker" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:19:46 +0000 Message-Id: <011820061519.5077.43CE5C92000571C6000013D522070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF (was DI2AG) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Roelof, Could you please send me the mini-whip .pdf file? Thank you! Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Roelof Bakker" > Hello Walter, > > Strange enough, I did not hear a constant carrier, but long dashes and a > fast (8 WPM?) ID and locator. So operation seemed to be normal. I do hear > your signal again now. (21:12 UTC) > > My mini-whip is an antenna I have developed for LF to get rid of local > noise. It works from 10 KHz to 15 MHz. The antenna is an electric field > probe, just like an active whip. However the whip has been replaced by a > small piece of copperclad PCB. I have written a summary, which is available > as .pdf file. If you would like to read it, I am more than pleased to mail > it to you. > > 73 s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFMD-0007zq-TH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFMD-0007xq-Hc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFLV-000601-4N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:35:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFLU-0005zs-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:35:36 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzFwU-0000ne-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:13:53 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-37-82-253-41-20.adsl.proxad.net [82.253.41.20]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 22D7894BE; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:35:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c61c44$bf03a9c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Roelof Bakker" References: <011820061519.5077.43CE5C92000571C6000013D522070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:35:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
 
Hello Roelof,

Could you please send me the mini whip .pdf

Thank you
 
Jean-Pierre f1afj
 
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFMR-0006jE-8H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFMR-0006fU-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFM5-00060L-Dp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFM4-00060B-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:12 +0000 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzGaS-0001So-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:55:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 68048 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 15:35:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.14.188 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 15:35:53 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c61c44$e09edfa0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c61c28$c72b2180$1de8fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:35:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: OBS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Mal, thanks for that. Yes as the pattern for a loop is a "half-doughnut on edge" like a dipole you would expect some signal from a DX station. particularly as it would be arriving by "skywave", where there should be some response. I guess at Brian's distance one hop is arriving at zero elevation, and the null in a well designed loop can be quite deep. Also Argo is very sensitive, if that is the right word, it goes from just a trace to a full "O" in about 3 to 4 dB change in strength.
 
Ok on the differences in aerials and local noise. This is always a problem and it is why Brian and I made such an effort to calibrate the aerials we used for regular moniring and then to mainly record commercial stations with "fixed" operating conditions. Even then stations like CFH could suffer lower ERP when the aerials were, on one occasion, shrouded in ice.  All comments / reports are interesting and help to add to the knowledge of events I am trying to build up. This quiet sun period is proving an interesting time contrasted with the franctic solar activity during the peak. In some ways it is easier to isolate cause and effect.
 
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 18 January 2006 12:14
Subject: LF: OBS

Hi Alan and Co
Just for intrest. I monitored 136.9 khz last night around 2000z and observed CT1DRP, who was a good signal on my vertical antenna. I then switched to my 80m vert loop which is broadside on to Brian, and saw absolutely nothing.
This is to be expected I suppose since the loop is max East/West although I did expect to see something, even very weak.
My noise level at the time on the vertical measured 69.5 db and the signal from DRP 41.3 db indicating a signal over noise of 28.2 db.
Since I am the most northerly station active on LF from the UK and the greatest distance from DRP I thought the info might be helpful to you with your observations. Someone else might have recorded some info at the same time in EU.
One other observation. On my vertical the Rugby qrm signal is fairly consistant but with the loop it fades in and out, but again Rugby is south from me and min sig pickup, for example the display is absolutely clear of qrm then suddenly lines appear from Rughy and after a very short spell they disappear again. The angle of arrival and direction could be changing with propagation changes, or maybe my vertical is having an effect inducing the Rugby signal into my loop at times.
I suppose it is important when making propagation observations to consider antennas used for both transmitting and receiving at the various places. Since in the amateur service no two stations are using the same power and antennas it is difficult to come to a meaningful conclusion. 
Good luck with your propagation data experiments.
de Mal/G3KEV
   
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:05:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFoE-0006fa-Ip for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:05:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFoE-0006eC-CL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:05:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFnk-0006FJ-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:04:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFnk-0006FA-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:04:48 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzH28-0001kC-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:24:00 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 ([84.12.78.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0IG3lRn024147 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:03:47 GMT Message-ID: <000e01c61c48$cea65c70$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <011820061519.5077.43CE5C92000571C6000013D522070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <001101c61c44$bf03a9c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Sounds like we're all interested in seeing an LF aerial the size of a 35mm film can!
Perhaps it should be put on one of the websites since this reflector won't pass attachments.
Walter G3JKV.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:10:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFtZ-00013M-W8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:10:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzFtZ-0000yx-MV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:10:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFtB-0006LQ-1m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:10:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFtA-0006LH-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:10:24 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzGUC-000126-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:48:41 +0000 Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.181.0]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 16:08:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAPzwzUOHQSg Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.181.0]:1330 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzFrj-000Cle-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:08:55 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:09:12 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000509010109010203070408" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000509010109010203070408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Brian & LF, CT1DRP active daytime. Capture attached, time span 1530z to 1600z. SpecLab set for qrss30. Odd looking "P" at the end?? 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG00-000755-Ed for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG00-00074n-A7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFzm-0006RQ-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzFzm-0006RH-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:14 +0000 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] helo=imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzHEB-0001tP-Oc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:36:27 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.264.43b0934 (3924) for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:16:48 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <264.43b0934.30ffc3f0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:16:48 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:05:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, blanch@pncl.co.uk writes:
Perhaps it should be put on one of the websites since this reflector won't pass attachments.
 
We would be glad to host it at lwca.org if it is Roelof's own writing and would not pose copyright concerns.
 
John Davis
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG9d-0007r6-E9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG9d-0007mv-8N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzG9C-0006aI-HZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzG9A-0006a9-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:56 +0000 Received: from smtpout0152.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.152] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzHNZ-00020o-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:46:09 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.121) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD000C3246 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01c61c4b$e3c98e80$79e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <011820061519.5077.43CE5C92000571C6000013D522070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <001101c61c44$bf03a9c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <000e01c61c48$cea65c70$2101a8c0@AUG2004> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:17:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Mini-Whip .PDF

Sounds like we're all interested in seeing an LF aerial the size of a 35mm film can!
 
Smaller than that !!!!!!!!
 
Perhaps it should be put on one of the websites since this reflector won't pass attachments.
Walter G3JKV.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG9h-0003Ih-Og for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzG9h-0003Fj-Ir for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzG9U-0006ai-69 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzG9T-0006aZ-RK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:15 +0000 Received: from smtpout0153.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.153] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzHNt-00020x-FH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:46:28 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.121) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD000C3263 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:36 +0000 Message-ID: <004001c61c4b$e9054740$79e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
CT1DRF vy strong at 1600z 25.2 db above my noise floor.136.319 khz. I think the last letter has got corrputed to F.
Antenna Vertical system.
Monitoring here at QRS 20.
It looks like he comes up on the Hour and H+30 during daytime or afternoon with one callsign.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzGYl-0003Tb-2F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzGYj-0003S8-W7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzGY9-0006pT-AG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:52:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzGY8-0006pK-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:52:44 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzH9B-0001I2-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:31:02 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:20907 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzGWt-0000r5-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:51:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:51:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Mike and everybody else, Thank you for your interest. The file is 65 kB and seems to be a little large for the list. I will send a copy to all who have asked for it. I have written an extensive article on this antenna and have send it to Electron, a Dutch Amateur Radio Magazine, almost a year ago. Unfortunately, it still has not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not available on a website yet. Just a few words on the development of the antenna. Four years ago I have been building all kind of loops, as I was convinced that loops are best at LF. I spend a whole winter season and they worked excellent in receiving local noise. I almost gave up, believing that weak signal reception was not possible in a city environment. As a last attempt, I connected the 12 m long open feeders of my 80 m dipole together and used it as T-antenna. Though 6 m of the feedline runs close to the wall, local noise was much lower. Reception was much improved and using a RF-isolating transformer it worked even better. Then I started experimenting with whip antennas. I have done a lot of research, which includes field reception tests in a RF-quiet environment, where I could not find a difference between a loop and an active whip. At home it is different. I found that at LF local noise in the electric field is contained inside a building, whilst local noise in the magnetic field is not. The screening for the electric field can be as large as 30 - 40 dB for a concrete building. So far I have found one written source that confirms this phenomenon: a small German book on active antennas. As you can read in the attachment, it was possible to reduce the size of an active whip considerable. The "standard" mini-whip is 8 cm long. At present, I am using one that has been squeezed inside half a film canister: 30 mm high! Passive electric field antennas have also been tested, using a 100 : 1 RF transformer. In this case the "antenna" was a large 5 kg coffee tin. It worked fine. Reception results have been very nice. At present my main interest is chasing NDB's. However, I have had solid qrss60 copy of VO1NA, WD2XKO and WD2XDW around 137.777 kHz. Regarding NDB's; in a little over three years, 1250 different stations made it into my log. To be honest, I must confess that I am using narrow bandwidth aural reception with a basic bandwidth of 20 Hz, provided by a SPM-30 SLM and a pair of modified PA0LQ active filters which reduce the bandwidth to 12 or 6 Hz. For NDB reception this compensates for a large extend the lack of directivity of the mini-whip. I am not saying that loops are bad antennas. To the contrary, I still have an active loop and use it from time to time in a phasing system with my mini-whip. That is, when local noise is low. Last week I have been lucky in receiving a NDB from Alaska: station PVQ on 376 kHz, Put River, Deadhorse, 6288 km. Reception was over a Polar path and the signal was very stable, without fading. Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF heard it a few days later, using a screened loop. This shows that both antennas can be great performers. This all might sound a bit odd, but this antenna is for real. I have put a lot of work in it and it has been great fun. You do not have to believe me (probably I should not have done that myself, four years ago). But whoever wants a small antenna, just give it a try. As you might have gathered: it does not work inside. Thank you for the bandwidth. Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt P.S. the summery will be send a little later From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzHKg-0007VI-G8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzHKf-0007SJ-Q3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzHK9-00072p-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzHK8-00072g-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:20 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzIYa-0002yE-0M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:01:35 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzHJq-0005z4-03; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:42:02 +0100 Received: from HW1 (EqqCNMZQreRZDS9FLiiGc4td5rSbKfWOE9iacUyh6pfmgLggxcnfr2@[84.133.76.50]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EzHJh-1jjJxZ0; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:41:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:41:50 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <354532973.20060118184150@t-online.de> To: Joe Craig In-Reply-To: References: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EqqCNMZQreRZDS9FLiiGc4td5rSbKfWOE9iacUyh6pfmgLggxcnfr2 X-TOI-MSGID: f5b6419a-d060-4af9-9308-b1c2b3df1cbb Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Joe, nice copy of "NA" here 19:00-10:00 UTC last night. 73 Hartmut > Fair copy of DRP and WX last night also. > 73 > Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:29:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzI3q-0006HL-2S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:29:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzI3p-0006Er-Pl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:29:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzI36-0007Eo-KB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzI35-0007Ef-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:47 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzIe5-0002lv-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:08 +0000 Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.181.0]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 18:28:13 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HACUUzkOHQSg Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.181.0]:1857 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzI2V-000IsI-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:11 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:50 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: YO & CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080202060804020505060003" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080202060804020505060003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi LF, CT1DRP & YO at 1730z to 1755z. 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From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <354532973.20060118184150@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <354532973.20060118184150@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thank-you Hartmut. A very impressive and consistent copy of my weak sigs. For those interested, I am game for a 2-way while conditions are favourable. 73 Joe On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Hi Joe, > > nice copy of "NA" here 19:00-10:00 UTC last night. > > 73 > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzIer-0001dO-Tt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzIer-0001d3-CX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzIeN-0007UJ-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzIeM-0007UA-Vi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:19 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzJFO-0002wb-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:45:40 +0000 Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.181.0]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 19:06:50 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HACwbzkOHQSg Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.181.0]:2055 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzIal-0002hn-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:03:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:07:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: YO fading Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070405040508020802010705" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070405040508020802010705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi LF, YO all but disapeared (clip shows 1830z to 1855z), CT1DRP still good. 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi LF, > >YO all but disapeared (clip shows 1830z to 1855z), CT1DRP still good. > power 6 db down Dmitri From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzK5W-0004KO-6W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzK5W-0004Hv-2u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzK56-0007tO-ME for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzK56-0007tF-Aq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:00 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzLJX-0005bY-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:58:17 +0000 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79082168 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:38:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg137.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.137] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:38:35 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.137 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg137.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID405kaRuMj4358X03 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.153.142] by uadvg137.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 941kaRuMh0210M37; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:38:33 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.153.142 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <43CEA747.1020004@usa.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:38:31 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID941kaRuMI0210X37 Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof Bakker wrote: > > Unfortunately, it still has > not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not > available on a website yet. > Then please send me also the PDF file describing your active E-field probe, thanks 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:42:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzK8S-0003Y6-PO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:42:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzK8S-0003WF-8o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:42:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzK8I-0007zz-2g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:42:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzK8H-0007zq-L7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:42:17 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzKjP-0003eT-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:20:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 95421 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 20:41:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 20:41:15 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:41:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00eb01c61c6f$8c196560$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcYcYB+lrmwrPjovTTe4bXx43LUNuAADrvMg Subject: RE: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Joe I've recently been using a tuned rotatable loop antenna to receive DX and null out Rugby Loran and frankly it's poor, it picks up all the local noise going, the main antenna is much less noisy despite the Loran. Even so I've been regularly seeing "NA" and this morning the last good copy was at about 0840, well into daylight. I'll go back to the long-wire for the grabber tonight. 73 Dave G3YXM. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Joe Craig Sent: 18 January 2006 18:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Thank-you Hartmut. A very impressive and consistent copy of my weak sigs. For those interested, I am game for a 2-way while conditions are favourable. 73 Joe On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Hi Joe, > > nice copy of "NA" here 19:00-10:00 UTC last night. > > 73 > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzKJO-0005d3-FQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzKJO-0005b7-5y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzKJ5-00086H-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzKJ4-000868-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:26 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzKu9-0003he-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:31:50 +0000 Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.181.0]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 18 Jan 2006 20:51:58 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAE03zkOHQSg Received: from 88-106-181-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.181.0]:2979 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzKHb-0007XI-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:51:56 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:52:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <43CEA50F.3020807@mail.ru> Subject: RE: LF: YO fading Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060309070907060105090608" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060309070907060105090608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dmitri, Thanks for the info, that explains it. YO visible again but much weaker. 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by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzLtN-00043M-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:35:02 +0000 Received: from [167.142.32.126] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 872966004 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:31 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:55:10 -0600 Message-ID: <003401c61c79$f04349c0$6401a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Subject: LF: RE: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Roelof, Just in case mine was a request that was misdirected, here that request is again for the mini-whip file. Thank you and 73, Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Mini-Whip From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzLlW-0006dz-Kg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzLlU-0006Zk-W1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzLl3-0000Bd-67 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzLl2-0000BU-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:24 +0000 Received: from omc1-s34.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.236]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzMMC-0004Dv-Su for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:04:50 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.115]) by omc1-s34.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:26:17 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:26:16 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CEA747.1020004@usa.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:16 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2006 22:26:16.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[328FF4F0:01C61C7E] Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Did anyone get the article yet?
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto di Bene
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip

Roelof Bakker wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, it still has
> not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not
> available on a website yet.
>
  Then please send me also the PDF file describing your active E-field probe, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:28:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzMj1-0005Rk-Dt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:28:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzMj1-0005QU-9n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:28:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzMi4-0000TM-5f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:27:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzMi3-0000TD-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:27:23 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzNwa-0007Ls-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:46:43 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzMhn-0003dE-00; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:27:07 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ZYfVHZZr8ePB3IeVLSeTGEcl+dxKX+l7FT5GqtFQdG1JzcCAvt2nwI@[84.145.216.127]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EzMha-25SSYb0; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:26:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0036 Date: 18 Jan 2006 23:26 GMT Message-ID: <1EzMha-25SSYb0@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: ZYfVHZZr8ePB3IeVLSeTGEcl+dxKX+l7FT5GqtFQdG1JzcCAvt2nwI X-TOI-MSGID: c0a17ec5-088e-4bc5-b3f9-f5e41adfd81d Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit T-Online eMail
Yes, I have got it.
 
73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
 
 
  "MIKE REID" <we0h1@msn.com> schrieb:
Did anyone get the article yet?
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto di Bene
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip

Roelof Bakker wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, it still has
> not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not
> available on a website yet.
>
  Then please send me also the PDF file describing your active E-field probe, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD


 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:29:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzPYZ-0005ub-85 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:29:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzPYZ-0005u9-3T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:29:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzPXo-00016A-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:29:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzPXo-000161-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:29:00 +0000 Received: from omc2-s37.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzQmL-0008WK-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:48:23 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.120]) by omc2-s37.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:35 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:28:35 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:28:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1EzMha-25SSYb0@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:28:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:28:35 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2006 02:28:35.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C7AB030:01C61CA0] Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit T-Online eMail
Can someone email it to me? My request must have gotten lost in the pile last night.
 
Thank you,
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Mini-Whip

Yes, I have got it.
 
73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
 
 
  "MIKE REID" <> schrieb:
Did anyone get the article yet?
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto di Bene
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip

Roelof Bakker wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, it still has
> not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not
> available on a website yet.
>
  Then please send me also the PDF file describing your active E-field probe, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD


 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:39:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzPhT-0007sW-7L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:39:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzPhS-0007sC-Vu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:38:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzPhE-0001Bn-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:38:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzPhE-0001Be-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:38:44 +0000 Received: from f1phy.netins.net ([167.142.228.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzQvm-0000Ag-QD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:58:07 +0000 Received: from [167.142.32.126] (HELO homehmkh4yu192) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 873116074 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:34:39 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Gruis=2C_EdD=2C_K=D8HTF?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:34:34 -0600 Message-ID: <000901c61ca0$e2fd8b50$6401a8c0@homehmkh4yu192> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: LF: RE: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit T-Online eMail

Me too!

 

Thanx!

 

Doc.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of MIKE REID
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 20:29
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip

 

Can someone email it to me? My request must have gotten lost in the pile last night.

 

Thank you,

 

Mike

WE0H

 

----- Original Message -----

From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:26 PM

Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Mini-Whip

 

Yes, I have got it.

 

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

 

 

  "MIKE REID" <> schrieb:

Did anyone get the article yet?

 

Mike

WE0H

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alberto di Bene

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:38 PM

Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip

 

Roelof Bakker wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, it still has
> not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not
> available on a website yet.
>
  Then please send me also the PDF file describing your active E-field probe, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:01:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzWbF-0001eW-Kt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:01:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzWbE-0001b7-Vd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:01:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzWYq-0003GK-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:58:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzWYp-0003GB-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:58:31 +0000 Received: from smtpout0181.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.181] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzXnW-0004WU-7j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:18:01 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.63) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54F51000DF1B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:58:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c61cde$cd44e680$3fd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:57:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: OBS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Alan & Co
DRP this morning at 0930z is reading 45 db (27 db above my noise floor)relative readings on ARGO.
QRG 136.319 khz My monitor set for QRS 20 sec dot.
I just happened to be sitting on this QRG and made the observation, normally I would be monitoring the CW area or QRS around 137.7 khz.
It looks like Brian/DRP is active all the time these days. I would like a QSO with him to get a report on my signal.
I suppose he must be nearly a 1000 miles from me. I work OH1TN frequently on CW daytime and night with average reports each way about 579 and he is probably about the same distance from me in the opposite direction.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzY49-00076S-UA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzY49-00074d-QQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzY3P-0003eg-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzY3P-0003eX-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:11 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzYeo-00009L-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:12:53 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006011911340001400ev9gke>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61cec$3dcf6760$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:33:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 19 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static levels. Good copy of DJ8WX and CT1DRP. Nothing seen from Dmitri, RA3YO. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzaX7-0002Cn-6W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzaX7-0002Bs-0u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzaW2-0004Hu-8i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzaW1-0004Hl-OO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:53 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezbkm-0006pe-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:31:27 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21164 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzaUX-0003Vk-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:10:22 +0000 Message-ID: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:10:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF group, Looking through my files, I found a report on an experiment carried out in October 2003. This adresses the issue of local noise and gives some background on the motives behind the mini-whip development. Luckily it is in plain text and you will find it here after. Maybe some of you will find this of interest. Thank you for the bandwidth, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Report comparing an active whip and an active loop. In a field test, both antennas received all stations equally well, but, the directivity of the loop was useful in separating stations on the same frequency. This test describes the results at the home location. The active whip is the G4COL design as appeared in RADCOM, modified for LF. The coaxial feed line (RG58U) to the operating position is 28 metre long of which 10 metre outdoor. Before entering the house, the braid of the coax is connecting to a good ground system. The active loop is 1.4 metre square and coupled to a balanced amplifier via a RF isolating transformer. The amplifier uses two 2N5109 transistors. Current consumption is 35 mA at 12V. The feed line is 20 metre long. Both antennas are located 6 metre from the house and 5 metre apart. The receiver used is a Wandel & Goltermann selective level meter SPM-3 with an add-on unit containing a tuneable pre-amplifier, tuneable down converter, 25 Hz wide LC filter at 500 Hz and an audio amplifier. In principle both antennas performed equally well in receiving NDB's. If there was a difference, the active whip gave just a little better result. In practice, however the active loop was far more sensitive to local noise. Especially in the evening with home entertaining electronic devices in full swing. Noise bursts hardly if at all audible on the active whip were very strong on the active loop. At many times, this also rendered the active loop useless for phasing purposes. Most radio amateur textbooks state that qrm from a local noise source is due to the electric part of the electro-magnetic field and has a vertical polarisation. An active whip is a vertical antenna and responds mainly to the electric field. A loop antenna responds to the magnetic field. The question arises why an active whip is apparently insensitive to vertical polarised local noise and an active loop is not. Before entering the house, the braid of the coaxial feed line of the active whip is connected to ground. This makes a large difference in received local noise. An explanation could be the assumption that the shield of the coaxial feed line is picking up additional local noise, which flows into the earth when the braid is connected to a ground stake. Trying to confirm this, the following tests have been performed. 1.. The SPM-3 was moved to the garden and connected to the feed line of the active whip. This feedline was 10 metre long. No provision was made for grounding the shield of the coaxial cable. Received noise was the same as indoors with the usual feedline and the braid of the coax connected to ground before entering the house. Conclusion # 1: no noise is received on the shield of the coax feed line outside the house. 2.. Using a T-piece the coax feed line inside the house was connected to the coax feed line outside the house and to the SPM-3. The noise was now 10 dB stronger than in test # 1. The noise disappeared when the shield of the coax was connected to ground. Conclusion # 2: the noise is received on the shield of the coax cable located inside the house. 3.. Repeating test # 1 for the active loop increased the noise by 12 to 22 dB dependant of the orientation of the loop. Grounding the shield of the coax made no difference at all. Conclusion # 3: the noise received by the active loop is received by the antenna and not by the feedline. During the tests, the measurement equipment was operated independent from the mains. A test was performed using battery power inside the house. No discernable differences were noted compared to using a mains power supply. So effects from using the mains power supply can safely be excluded. The position of the antennas has been interchanged to eliminate effects due to the location in the garden, but no differences were noted either. Comparing the level of received noise by ear is extremely difficult. The actual difference in dB is much larger than the perceived difference. With these low signal levels the signal strength meter of a receiver is of no use. The agc does not respond to such low-level signals. This is an application where a selective level meter is indispensable. General observations. These tests show that the local noise is contained within the house. Therefore, the noise received on the active loop cannot be in the electric field. Otherwise, the active whip should have received it as well. One might ask where the noise received on the active loop originates. Most likely, this noise comes from the magnetic field and this field is not contained within the house. Further tests can prove this assumption true or false. These findings are not without any practical implications. There is now hard evidence that an active whip is much less sensitive to local noise from inside the house and that the noise is received on the feed line inside the house. With the right precautions this little antennas can provide outstanding performance. Further tests showed that connecting the radio earth to the mains earth, the noise level increased 7 dB, ruling out any weak signal work Roelof Bakker, PAoRDT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:06:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzcIj-0005kZ-09 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:06:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzcIi-0005hb-QD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:06:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzcHq-0004lf-TI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzcHq-0004lW-I8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:05:22 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzdWa-00081d-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:24:58 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzcGZ-0000sP-00; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:04:03 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TbxifoZewexfx5vRk0MRQmTcJ22aEAChbLMeMDGmHg+hJFd1w43k4S@[84.133.113.212]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EzcGU-1MLc7U0; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:03:58 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:02:47 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <344806604.20060119170247@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TbxifoZewexfx5vRk0MRQmTcJ22aEAChbLMeMDGmHg+hJFd1w43k4S X-TOI-MSGID: aba658d1-0e04-422e-8e78-c5972a1f105a Subject: LF: TA Jan, 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured "NA" 03:00-09:30 UTC and "XKO" on 137.7735 01:10-10:00 UTC. A long dash appeared here about 23:35-23:50 on 137.780. Probably a EU-operator testing his PA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:39:23 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezdko-0002td-No for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:39:23 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezdko-0002sp-Fl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:39:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzdjZ-00051v-Fz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:38:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzdjZ-00051m-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:38:05 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzeyK-0000qr-Iu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:57:42 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F13780E5 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:37:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.131] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:37:37 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.131 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg131.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID560kasRll1758X01 Received: from [192.168.0.6] [151.46.164.217] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 413kasRlj0112M31; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:37:35 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.164.217 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.6] Message-ID: <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:37:33 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID413kasRlj0112X31 Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof Bakker wrote: > In principle both antennas performed equally well in receiving NDB's. If > there was a difference, the active whip gave just a little better result. > > Noise bursts hardly if at all audible on the active whip were very > strong on the active loop. At many times, this also rendered the active loop > useless for phasing purposes. Roelof, have you by any chance compared your active whip with the Amrad E-field probe? Both work on the same principles and it would be interesting to know how do they compare. 73 Alberto I2PHD P.S. Thanks for the PDF file. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:08:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezf8w-0006Zi-R5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:08:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezf8w-0006Wj-F0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:08:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezf88-0005Mx-7T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezf87-0005Mo-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:31 +0000 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([194.67.23.149]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezfjf-0003XJ-EW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:22 +0000 Received: from [62.33.236.114] (port=50799 helo=mail.ru) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ezf82-000OfL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:07:27 +0300 Message-ID: <43CFE3B1.6020605@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:08:33 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: YO & CT1DRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi, > >Just look at this deep fade 14 minutes after my last capture just posted. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > Again power 6 db up Dmitri From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:42:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzgcD-00011W-9L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:42:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzgcD-0000xq-45 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:42:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzgbX-0005bt-3L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:41:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzgbW-0005bk-Nr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:41:58 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzhqN-000491-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:01:39 +0000 Received: from 88-106-223-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.223.191]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2006 20:41:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAMOBz0OHQSg Received: from 88-106-223-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.223.191]:3670 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ezgad-000GVR-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:41:03 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:41:36 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <43CFE3B1.6020605@mail.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: LF: YO & CT1DRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Dmitri, Funny thing was about the fade at that time CT1DRP went into the noise at exactly the same moment as your signal did even though the distance to you was much greater than to Brian. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dmitri Sent: 19 January 2006 19:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: YO & CT1DRP Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi, > >Just look at this deep fade 14 minutes after my last capture just posted. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > Again power 6 db up Dmitri From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:08:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezh1R-00040B-Se for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:08:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezh1R-0003wn-Mp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:08:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezh0x-0005jd-F8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:08:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezh0x-0005jU-1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:08:15 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzhcY-0004pq-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:47:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 35093 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 21:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.122.240 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 21:08:11 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:09:08 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <344806604.20060119170247@t-online.de> Subject: LF: RE: TA Jan, 18/19th [Mea Culpa] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Hartmut, LF The long dash was me! There were also 12 wpm callsigns at beginning and end, but you may not have captured them. I am amazed that saw the transmission, as the TX was running 5W RF out for these tests. (I was checking my reception on the G3YXM grabber, btw)The first dash was followed immediately by another long dash at a further reduced power, which I doubt you will have copied. I was planning to repeat the tests reducing the TX power in 6dB steps, but I ran out of time. 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 19 January 2006 16:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA Jan, 18/19th Captured "NA" 03:00-09:30 UTC and "XKO" on 137.7735 01:10-10:00 UTC. A long dash appeared here about 23:35-23:50 on 137.780. Probably a EU-operator testing his PA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:23:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzhFL-0002m5-VE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:23:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzhFL-0002e7-Gz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:23:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzhEt-0005qM-Nl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:22:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzhEt-0005qD-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:22:39 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzhqV-000523-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:01:33 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzhEn-0004wK-04; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:22:33 +0100 Received: from HW1 (VmpY8GZVreK1xFy6PeCpUEhEcNnDGfUbkCabP-hZW6svG8KfpdVv07@[84.133.113.212]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EzhEi-0Kq8oa0; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:22:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:22:27 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1116396791.20060119222227@t-online.de> To: Dave G3WCB In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VmpY8GZVreK1xFy6PeCpUEhEcNnDGfUbkCabP-hZW6svG8KfpdVv07 X-TOI-MSGID: 8993b8ac-5a27-42f0-8d80-400eb2ff3216 Subject: Re: LF: RE: TA Jan, 18/19th [Mea Culpa] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080204070102090209050001" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080204070102090209050001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dave, attached a screenshot of the "long dash". 73 Hartmut > Dear Hartmut, LF > The long dash was me! There were also 12 wpm callsigns at beginning and end, > but you may not have captured them. I am amazed that saw the transmission, > as the TX was running 5W RF out for these tests. 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Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:30:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzhMc-0005x4-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:30:38 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzibS-0004p6-T3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:50:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 34787 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 21:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.122.240 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 21:30:21 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:31:18 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1116396791.20060119222227@t-online.de> Subject: RE: LF: RE: TA Jan, 18/19th [Mea Culpa] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Very impressive, Hartmut. I estimate my ERP was of the order of 500 microwatts! Thanks Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 19 January 2006 21:22 To: Dave G3WCB Subject: Re: LF: RE: TA Jan, 18/19th [Mea Culpa] Hi Dave, attached a screenshot of the "long dash". 73 Hartmut > Dear Hartmut, LF > The long dash was me! There were also 12 wpm callsigns at beginning and end, > but you may not have captured them. I am amazed that saw the transmission, > as the TX was running 5W RF out for these tests. (I was checking my > reception on the G3YXM grabber, btw)The first dash was followed immediately > by another long dash at a further reduced power, which I doubt you will have > copied. > I was planning to repeat the tests reducing the TX power in 6dB steps, but I > ran out of time. > 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:05:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezhtz-0002kq-9l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:05:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezhtz-0002iy-2T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:05:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezhsm-00066e-R4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:03:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezhsm-00066V-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:03:52 +0000 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezj7e-000554-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:23:34 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-37-82-253-9-201.adsl.proxad.net [82.253.9.201]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id AFC506CC81 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:03:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001601c61d44$31589b70$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:03:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070900070007040209030108" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070900070007040209030108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all ! 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Jan 2006 23:22:16 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Alberto di Bene : > Roelof, > > have you by any chance compared your active whip with the Amrad > E-field probe? > Both work on the same principles and it would be interesting to know > how do they > compare. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > P.S. Thanks for the PDF file. Hi Alberto, do you have a description of the Amrad E-field probe? I cant find it on the net. Regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:35:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EziNQ-0006oS-O3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EziNQ-0006lu-Kl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:35:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EziN3-0006La-Tc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:35:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EziN3-0006LR-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:35:09 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Eziyg-0005Rj-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:14:05 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EziM1-00012A-02; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:34:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (TWYnimZJZeBAnFjoiS1WjayaYyrLsgXGNPQEz6jB0Ya0f2urnuQ44+@[172.20.101.250]) by fwd16.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EziLp-128FCS0; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:33:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <000701c61b59$c76d34a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:33:53 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-UMS: email X-Mailer: TOI Kommunikationscenter V6-0-1 From: "uwe-jannsen@t-online.de" Message-ID: <1EziLp-128FCS0@fwd16.aul.t-online.de> X-ID: TWYnimZJZeBAnFjoiS1WjayaYyrLsgXGNPQEz6jB0Ya0f2urnuQ44+@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 5e2bc3f7-c963-467e-bc3f-95393501a587 Subject: Re: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jay, DJ8WX is off the air this EU night. Regards Uwe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:51:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzjZ9-0004hk-DI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:51:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzjZ9-0004cw-84 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:51:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzjY1-0006as-Bd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzjY0-0006aj-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:50:32 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezkmp-0006Cy-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:10:16 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C6278120 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:49:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:49:34 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID362kasXxj2043X01 Received: from [192.168.0.6] [151.46.164.217] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 141kasXxh0490M36; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:49:33 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.164.217 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.6] Message-ID: <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:49:31 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> In-Reply-To: <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID141kasXxI0490X36 Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: > > Hi Alberto, > do you have a description of the Amrad E-field probe? > I cant find it on the net. > Regards > Uwe/dj8wx Hi Uwe, probably you haven't found it because it is referred to as "Amrad active antenna". Here is the PDF file describing it : http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf and here you can find some notes by Amrad on it : http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/LF-Ant.shtml It uses a rather unusual power FET as active device, the Crystalonics CP666. A few have built it using a couple of U310 in parallel, at the maximum drain current compatible with the max dissipation, and with the supply voltage reduced from 24 to 12V. If the Roelof's mini whip antenna performs similarly, then there isn't the need of searching for the (expensive) CP666 FET. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:00:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzjhN-00085u-59 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:00:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzjhN-00085A-1K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:00:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezjgy-0006gt-2V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:59:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezjgx-0006gk-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:59:47 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezkvn-0006Go-7P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:19:31 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8615278052 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:58:51 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID261kasX7z1761X01 Received: from [192.168.0.6] [151.46.164.217] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 279kasX7x0054M29; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:58:49 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.164.217 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.6] Message-ID: <43D027B8.1000300@usa.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:58:48 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID279kasX7Y0054X29 Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Alberto di Bene wrote: > > and here you can find some notes by Amrad on it : > http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/LF-Ant.shtml > You may want also to check this page : http://www.amrad.org/projects/lf/actant/faq.htm 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:03:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezjkf-0003st-NC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:03:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezjkf-0003m2-J7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:03:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezjk7-0006lE-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:03:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezjk6-0006ky-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:03:02 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezkyz-0006Iq-PC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:22:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 26545 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 00:02:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.52.32?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.52.32 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 00:02:44 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/235]); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:14 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Roleof, LF Group, > Most radio amateur textbooks state that qrm from a local noise source is due > to the electric part of the electro-magnetic field and has a vertical > polarisation. An active whip is a vertical antenna and responds mainly to > the electric field. A loop antenna responds to the magnetic field. The > question arises why an active whip is apparently insensitive to vertical > polarised local noise and an active loop is not. > I have often heard this statement, but is there any justification for it at LF? Assuming no resonances occur near the receive frequency, a predominantly electric field QRM source implies a relatively high voltage, low current and high impedance, while a predominantly magnetic field QRM source implies high current, low voltage and low impedance. Most of the QRM experienced at LF seems to be mains related, and most mains wiring must have a fairly low impedance to ground due to the capacitance between wires in cables, so relatively large noise currents and small noise voltages would seem likely. So one would expect predominantly "magnetic" noise from mains wiring. > Before entering the house, the braid of the coaxial feed line of the active > whip is connected to ground. This makes a large difference in received > local noise. An explanation could be the assumption that the shield of the > coaxial feed line is picking up additional local noise, which flows into the > earth when the braid is connected to a ground stake. Trying to confirm this, > the following tests have been performed... > I have found this is often true. I had an amazing level of noise on the old 73kHz band if I grounded the antenna end of the RX antenna feeder, which was largely eliminated by leaving the loop antenna "floating", except where it connected to the RX ground. Something similar happened when I operated with G3GRO from Porthcurno a few years back - we set up a loop well away from sources of QRM with a long feeder, but still got a high noise level. eventually I found the noise was eliminated by raising the loop clear of the long grass and brambles; apparently the vegetation touching the loop antenna element gave enough of a conductive path to complete a ground loop. With a loop antenna, even if the screening of the feeder is perfect, a noise current flowing down the braid will produce a magnetic field that can be picked up by the loop, so really it is neccessary to prevent such noise currents flowing, rather than trying to apply better screening. In general, I find multiple grounding points on feeders are a bad thing from the noise viewpoint. My current RX vertical antenna has an isolating transformer at the antenna to reduce this problem. My RX loops are currently grounded only at the receiver end of the feeders. Also, I have tried to isolate the LF rig from the mains ground by connecting the mains through a filter which includes a choke in the ground line, and providing a seperate RF ground connection. Another source of noise is the TX vertical antenna; when it is resonant at the receiving frequency, it can introduce a lot of noise in the RX antennas, which are practically underneath it, and also "suck out" the wanted signal. This was overcome by adding a relay in series with the "cold" end of the loading coil, which open-circuits the TX antenna on receive, and so de-tunes it. The best tool for investigating these problems is a battery-operated receiver - if there is no noise when the RX is connected directly at the antenna feed point with the normal feeder disconnected, you can be sure that the feeder is the source of the problem. It is also very useful when trying to find a low-noise location to position a loop or whip antenna.. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:22:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezk2v-0004RX-1X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:22:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezk2u-0004PI-Sl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:22:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezk2T-0006wg-OQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezk2T-0006wX-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzlHN-0006Rf-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:41:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 15140 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 00:21:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.52.32 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 00:21:44 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/235]); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:21:14 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c61d57$6c37e300$20347ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:21:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: TA Jan 19th/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF Group, Much improved TA receiving conditions here tonight, with solid signals visible from XES, VO1NA and XKO from around 2200utc onwards. XKO had about 1Hz shift in frequency at about 2318. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:56:04 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzkZP-0003li-Iw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:56:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzkZP-0003fG-8q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:56:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzkYm-00077u-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:55:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzkYl-00077l-LN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:55:23 +0000 Received: from mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.172]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzlAT-0006Aj-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:34:22 +0000 Received: from mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.142]) by mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0K0tDPn003543 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:55:14 -0500 Received: from 24-107-224-124.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (24.107.224.124) by mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2006 19:55:13 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.01,202,1136178000"; d="scan'208"; a="2042030035:sNHT48912006" Message-ID: <43D03533.70109@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:56:19 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jim's comments make sense, and I hope to do some experiments as time permits. I have been treating LF receive loops as balanced antennas, with no intended ground reference. This has been easy in my case, as I series tune the loop into a coupling transformer. Parallel tuning would also be possible. This arrangement has been much quieter than earlier attempts with unbalanced loops. Jay has carried this a bit further by using a twisted pair feeder back to the shack. My experiments with that at our summer place were inconclusive, but it might be a help in a noisy situation. I'm thinking of giving it a try here, as my local noises are higher than ever this winter, and Jay consistently has better copy on the TA signals. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:09:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzkmX-0000f8-7T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:09:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzkmX-0000b4-2U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:09:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezklq-0007FH-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:08:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezklq-0007F8-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:08:54 +0000 Received: from omc2-s39.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzlNX-0006FZ-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:47:53 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.107]) by omc2-s39.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:08:46 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:08:46 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV3.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:08:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: "Lowfer_Post" , "rsgb_lf_group" Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:08:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:08:45 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2006 01:08:46.0107 (UTC) FILETIME=[101C76B0:01C61D5E] Subject: LF: Fw: [500kc] RW Beacon on Timer Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Maybe others may be interested in Paul's 480kc CW beacon. 100w output into 30' vertical with tophat. Heard all over the USA so far.
 
73's,
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
From: W0rw
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: [500kc] RW Beacon on Timer

i found this cool rad hard timer in my junk box.
It will key the RW Beacon (WA2XRM) on every 30 minutes (##00 and ##30) for 1
minute. i will set it for 0000z to 0700z.
It is not synchronized with WWVB but it is very close.
The RW Beacon CW ID is still at 20 wpm.

i don't want to run it all the time because it causes a little noise on other
bands locally and i don't want to blow it up. The DX-100 wasn't really
designed for continious duty (but it is Rad Hard) . It is amazing that those 1955 HV
aluminum capacitors are still good.
This is not just a night time band, John, K0JO, has copied my signals at my
Noon
in MN (750 Miles).
Please send me your SWL reports...
i need WAS and want to get across the pond too.

QSL to:
Paul  w0rw@aol.com
PO Box 6069
Colorado Springs, CO 80934


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:44:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EznC9-0005K5-Ce for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:44:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EznC9-0005Jn-9G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:44:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EznBb-0007he-MU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:43:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EznBb-0007hV-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:43:39 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzoQW-00084G-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:03:26 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006012003430911100o0q63e>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:43:14 +0000 Message-ID: <43D05C4E.6060008@att.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:43:10 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003a01c61d57$6c37e300$20347ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <003a01c61d57$6c37e300$20347ad5@w4o8m9> Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan 19th/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) James Moritz wrote: >Much improved TA receiving conditions here tonight, with solid signals >visible from XES, VO1NA and XKO from around 2200utc onwards. XKO had about >1Hz shift in frequency at about 2318. > > > You caught me tweaking the freq Jim :) Thanks for the report! Dex W4DEX / WD2XKO http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EztEj-00081u-EG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EztEj-0007z1-8d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EztDV-0008Sb-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:10:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EztDU-0008SN-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:10:00 +0000 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzuSV-0002IC-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:29:53 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EztCD-0005p1-05; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:08:41 +0100 Received: from oben (TWYniMZrZerUTbg+6W4taoA-+R86FtUHu-6JnXogPFYLOaYT+C8j6d@[84.178.215.162]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EztBt-1hwVFY0; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:08:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c61dac$20298450$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:27:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: TWYniMZrZerUTbg+6W4taoA-+R86FtUHu-6JnXogPFYLOaYT+C8j6d X-TOI-MSGID: 6b67dedd-a32a-44b1-97e0-947a4b63e87f Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Alberto and all, they choose this exotic transistor because of its extreme linearity. 73 Peter, dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:49 AM Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise > uwe-jannsen@versanet.de wrote: > > > > Hi Alberto, > > do you have a description of the Amrad E-field probe? > > I cant find it on the net. > > Regards > > Uwe/dj8wx > > Hi Uwe, > > probably you haven't found it because it is referred to as > "Amrad active antenna". > Here is the PDF file describing it : > http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0109031.pdf > > and here you can find some notes by Amrad on it : > http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/LF-Ant.shtml > > It uses a rather unusual power FET as active device, the > Crystalonics CP666. A few have built it using a couple > of U310 in parallel, at the maximum drain current compatible > with the max dissipation, and with the supply voltage > reduced from 24 to 12V. > > If the Roelof's mini whip antenna performs similarly, > then there isn't the need of searching for the (expensive) > CP666 FET. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:18:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuHv-0005ZH-Eb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:18:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuHv-0005U5-8q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:18:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzuH2-0000Df-TU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:17:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzuH2-0000DS-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:17:44 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzvW6-0002xg-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:37:39 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jan 2006 11:17:22 -0000 Received: from p54907945.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.121.69] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 12:17:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <002f01c61db3$7fcc8860$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:49:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: LF: Mini Whip Transistor Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
To All
If the 2N5109 is not available, You may use as replacement the easy to get 2N3866
 
Uwe, DK1KQ
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:34:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuXD-00077v-CY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:34:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuXD-00077V-7i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:34:27 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzuWb-0000Kd-Fk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzuWb-0000KU-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([63.240.77.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezvld-00036Q-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:53:43 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006012011332301400ev6fme>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:33:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c61db5$52731e40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:33:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 20 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good signal levels and no static. Possible partial RA3YO capture. Unusually late fadeout of CT1DRP. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezumz-00078n-63 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Ezumy-000741-Ow for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzumW-0000SA-Dn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzumV-0000S1-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:50:15 +0000 Received: from natsmtp00.rzone.de ([81.169.145.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezw1b-0003C7-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:10:10 +0000 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p54864C2C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.76.44]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0KBnw1v013080 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:49:59 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <43D0CEA1.6040406@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:50:57 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c61db3$7fcc8860$0600a8c0@router> In-Reply-To: <002f01c61db3$7fcc8860$0600a8c0@router> Subject: Re: LF: Mini Whip Transistor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have also used BFW16A instead of 2N5109. Hartmut > To All > If the 2N5109 is not available, You may use as replacement the easy to get 2N3866 > > Uwe, DK1KQ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:58:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuuE-0006Xi-Uz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:58:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzuuE-0006Vb-Ly for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:58:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezutv-0000YW-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:57:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezutu-0000YN-Qw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:57:54 +0000 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.88]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzvVo-0001NX-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:37:07 +0000 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20060120120003.FWDX21004.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:00:03 +0100 Received: from y4x1l1 ([193.189.191.243]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20060120115749.PITG6327.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:57:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c61db8$ad341f20$f3bfbdc1@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:56:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) HI Dmitri & Oleg Test call transmited about 137766kHz, QRSS10 or 20 "AB" pause for rec."AB".... In expectation good condx...! Cheers 73, Joze S52AB , JN75OU http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitri" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: LF: RX9BS > Hi Lf group! > > Information from RX9BS : 13 jan was poor propagation to Eu. > Oleg will be activity 20-21 jan from 19z. > dfcw10-20, frequency about 137774 > RX 5-10 HZ down > > Dmitri > RA3YO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:17:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzyxG-0008V7-6g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:17:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzyxF-0008Sc-SQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:17:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EzywJ-00016m-6V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:16:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EzywI-00016d-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:16:38 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EzzYI-00041D-Qk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:55:56 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21569 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezyv1-0002Wr-82 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:15:19 +0000 Message-ID: <007201c61ddc$b0d668d0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> <000901c61dac$20298450$ee9bfea9@oben> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:15:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Peter and all, It seems that this transistor is no longer available. However, there is no real need for it as the J310 has been tested for IP2 and IP3 in the same test setup. At 12 V and a bias current of 10 mA the J310 has a IP2 of + 69 dBm and a IP3 of + 33.5 dBm, 1 dB compression point is in excess of + 22 dBm. Computer simulation of the J310 has confirmed these figures (or should I say vice versa?) Though the active device is important in a whip design, it is only part of a system. There is not much use to put much effort into acchieving the best possible performance, when this is not necessary for the reception system as a whole. 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:26 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzzmK-0005Nj-Ob for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EzzmK-0005NO-Le for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:10:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezzla-0001Hb-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:09:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ezzla-0001HS-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:09:38 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F010i-0006dk-QQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:29:38 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EzzkK-0000qc-00; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:08:20 +0100 Received: from HW1 (SI4TqrZdgealSUQiTpptzY786NcfCM0W+ceQw0DYtwbbdbHMaQCd8m@[84.133.123.70]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EzzkA-0dsMj20; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:08:10 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:08:08 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <43824390.20060120180808@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SI4TqrZdgealSUQiTpptzY786NcfCM0W+ceQw0DYtwbbdbHMaQCd8m X-TOI-MSGID: 44ece823-ff24-41d4-8fa5-474cd7ae5a31 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 19/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Strong signals of VO1NA, WD2XES and WD2XKO last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:57:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02OJ-0003u6-Ke for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:57:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02OJ-0003tI-G1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:57:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F02Mx-0001g8-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:56:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F02Mx-0001fz-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:56:23 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F03cB-0008Lb-0O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:16:26 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.256.5085ebe (62952) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <256.5085ebe.31029a4b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:55:55 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Re: TA Jan, 19th/20th Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF Group,

three stations XES, NA and XKO were copied here in Nuernberg as well, best around 4:00:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_20Jan06_0256-0437.gif  (109 kB)

In the Eu transmit segment, there were DL2HRE until 20:36, and CT1DRP around the clock - Brian's daytime signal is coming in here clear and steady.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

james.moritz@btopenworld.com wrote:

Much improved TA receiving conditions here tonight, with solid signals
visible from XES, VO1NA and XKO from around 2200utc onwards. XKO had about
1Hz shift in frequency at about 2318.

 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:12:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02cy-0000NV-DY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:12:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02cy-0000Ml-8X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:12:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F02cM-0001nD-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:12:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F02cM-0001n4-6C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:12:18 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F03ra-0008Sm-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:32:21 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F02c6-0004Lx-02; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:12:02 +0100 Received: from HW1 (SI4TR0Zrge3Q5CXKozvGEuFIRezaco9fFh-us0tOY2ZU4RXOXX-r0T@[84.133.123.70]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F02bu-16i1fk0; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:11:50 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:11:48 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1539861193.20060120211148@t-online.de> To: Dmitri In-Reply-To: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> References: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SI4TR0Zrge3Q5CXKozvGEuFIRezaco9fFh-us0tOY2ZU4RXOXX-r0T X-TOI-MSGID: 1819175d-f6d5-489c-b813-88388b031de0 Subject: Re: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > Information from RX9BS : 13 jan was poor propagation to Eu. > Oleg will be activity 20-21 jan from 19z. > dfcw10-20, frequency about 137774 > RX 5-10 HZ down Since 19:00 UTC I see traces on 137772.55/137773.55 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:14:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02eI-0003vE-GL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:14:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F02eI-0003uM-8F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:14:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F02dq-0001pb-8y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:13:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F02dp-0001pR-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:13:49 +0000 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F03t2-0008TX-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:52 +0000 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([216.79.243.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060120201216.PKAL841.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:12:16 -0500 Received: from nad6f51291296b ([216.79.243.58]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20060120201207.ZGPL14903.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@nad6f51291296b>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:12:07 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01c61dfd$a6ec8e50$3af34fd8@nad6f51291296b> From: "Lewis" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:10:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010203090706070003030706" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010203090706070003030706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Everyone, Great day to be alive isn't it DRP has been coming in most every night lately, strange just pops in for one cap. and a hour or so later will pop in again, seems like the early appearances are the best. Attached is from a couple nights ago. 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--------------010203090706070003030706-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:42:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F041X-0007wZ-DA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:42:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F041X-0007w5-3E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:42:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F040T-00028J-FC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:41:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F040S-00028A-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:41:17 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F04cY-0005JD-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:20:41 +0000 Received: from 88-106-223-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.223.191]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 20 Jan 2006 21:41:03 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAFLh0EOHQSg Received: from 88-106-223-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.223.191]:4751 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F03x6-000Dr5-RS; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:37:48 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:41:15 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: PSU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, Does anyone know were I can obtain the specifications of a Coutant ASD1000 power supply. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:59:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F04IN-000611-3t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:59:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F04IM-00060W-TU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:59:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F04Hl-0002FQ-F3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:59:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F04Hk-0002FH-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:59:08 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F04ts-0005bT-NC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:38:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 45260 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 21:59:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.237.198 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 21:59:05 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:00:03 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00eb01c61c6f$8c196560$f500a8c0@Dell5150> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: G3YXM Grabber [tunable loop] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060803020308010801050101" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060803020308010801050101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, LF I'm not sure if your grabber is on the loop antenna currently, but your antenna seems to be quite favourable in my direction. I was able to paint a respectable DFCW5 signal on your grabber while running only 1 watt RF into my antenna (160mA antenna current) I don't think I can reach your QTH on 1 watt out on any other band! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick Sent: 18 January 2006 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Joe I've recently been using a tuned rotatable loop antenna to receive DX and null out Rugby Loran and frankly it's poor, it picks up all the local noise going, the main antenna is much less noisy despite the Loran. Even so I've been regularly seeing "NA" and this morning the last good copy was at about 0840, well into daylight. 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20 Jan 2006 22:04:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F04Mj-0002Ky-HX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:04:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F04Mj-0002Kp-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:04:17 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F05bu-0000pm-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:24:22 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter89.comcast.net ([204.127.197.189]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060120220343014003mp2oe>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:03:49 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter89.comcast.net; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:03:40 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Cc: "Gary - G4WGT" , "LW Wave" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:03:40 +0000 Message-Id: <012020062203.10462.43D15E3C00052FF2000028DE22092246270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: PSU X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Gary, Cotant was purchased by Lambda. If no one on the list has any info I would suggest contacting the Lambda factory: http://www.lambdapower.com/products/legacy_1.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" > Hi All, > > Does anyone know were I can obtain the specifications of a Coutant ASD1000 > power supply. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:25:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F04hP-00052c-Tr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:25:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F04hP-000500-OE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:25:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F04gi-0002SJ-SX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F04gh-0002SA-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:55 +0000 Received: from omc1-s25.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.227]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F05Io-0005h6-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:04:21 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.173.53]) by omc1-s25.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:24:46 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:24:46 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV23.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> <000901c61dac$20298450$ee9bfea9@oben> <007201c61ddc$b0d668d0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:24:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:24:45 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2006 22:24:46.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[516102A0:01C61E10] Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I have samples of the 2N5109 on their way here.
That's the link to the manufacturer's webpage where they offer free samples. The J310 is also a free sample from Fairchild Semiconductors.
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roelof Bakker
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise

Hello Peter and all,

It seems that this transistor is no longer available. However, there is no
real need for it as the J310 has been tested for IP2 and IP3 in the same
test setup. At 12 V and a bias current of 10 mA the J310 has a IP2 of + 69
dBm and a IP3 of + 33.5 dBm, 1 dB compression point is in excess of + 22
dBm.

Computer simulation of the J310 has confirmed these figures (or should I say
vice versa?) Though the active device is important in a whip design, it is
only part of a system. There is not much use to put much effort into
acchieving the best possible performance, when this is not necessary for the
reception system as a whole.

73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F06iN-00018J-1L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F06iM-00017w-Q0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F06hV-0002zn-FO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:33:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F06hV-0002ze-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:33:53 +0000 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F07wm-00024v-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:54:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 1036 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 00:32:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.1.222?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.1.222 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 00:32:32 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/235]); Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:32:00 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c61e22$18277c00$de018351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> <1539861193.20060120211148@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:32:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: RX9BS (just about!) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060909010007090400000100" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060909010007090400000100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF group, RX9BS was marginally readable here between about 2310utc and 2332utc, using DFCW with about 30s elements, dot frequency 137.7726kHz, dash frequency 137.7736kHz. The attachment shows, with a bit of imagination, "...9BS K", with the dot and dash frequencies either side of the bright Loran line.. The signal is visible again at around 0010utc, still very weak, apparently now QRSS. 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--------------060909010007090400000100-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:17:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0EsD-00010n-QK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:17:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0EsD-00010b-Hf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:17:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ErD-0004WT-Cv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:16:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ErC-0004WK-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:16:26 +0000 Received: from smtpout0134.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.134] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0G6d-0006TM-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:36:42 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.62) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD001171CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:14:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c61e6b$03154f60$3ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:09:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
FSK acty on RX9BS freq about 2015z, vy poor copy and unable to make the callsign out. The shift appeared to be about 1hz. He seem to QRT or else it was a sudden fade out. I more or less had the same result as Jim/M0BMU except my time was different, a lot earlier.
I had a bash on 136.318 last night, I moved down slightly to avoid the qrm, my speed was qrs10 then qrs20. Maybe Jay spotted something across the deep blue sea.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:00:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0FXh-0001NZ-4i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:00:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0FXg-0001N3-QG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:00:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0FX1-0004it-8J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:59:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0FX0-0004ik-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:59:38 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0G9N-000166-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:39:19 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21635 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0FWx-000DxJ-AC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:59:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c61e6b$03154f60$3ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:59:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: LF; T/A January 21 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070506010807060106020900" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070506010807060106020900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, The receiver was switched on in QRSS60 at 07:00 UTC and just caught the tailend of VO1NA. I also found a DFCW signal at 137779 between 07:00 and 08:30 UTC, in broad daylight. Is this XES? 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--------------070506010807060106020900-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:46:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0GGL-0004Pz-SX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:46:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0GGL-0004MS-KS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:46:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0GF0-0004vP-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:45:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0GF0-0004vG-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:45:06 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0GrN-0001Lx-Oq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:24:47 +0000 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F0GEx-00061P-03; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:45:03 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TJI9p0Zrge7OFDza9E4cSp0rJp0kDim526sSIt+UhOv5e3QMoPPz6F@[84.133.80.129]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F0GEr-2JgKP20; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:44:57 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:44:59 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <205236435.20060121114459@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TJI9p0Zrge7OFDza9E4cSp0rJp0kDim526sSIt+UhOv5e3QMoPPz6F X-TOI-MSGID: 7a5e5c9f-5d79-4269-8337-5648b02bce9a Subject: LF: TA Jan, 20th/21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Overall strong T/A signals last night. Captured VO1NA 21:00-09:30. The 5wpm blur was very strong 05:30-06:00 and 06:30-07:00 but no listening by ear. WD2XES visible about 00:15-10:00. Strong signal 00:15-04:00. Near 137.778 I saw a steady carrier about 21:00-09:00. Probably WD2XKO testing the PA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0GOT-0003fJ-BT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0GOT-0003dj-45 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0GNu-00050f-KW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0GNu-00050W-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:18 +0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0H0I-0001Oi-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:33:59 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F0GNs-0005w1-03; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:16 +0100 Received: from oben (S9xSJ+Z6Yej68EpVeXl4AlevlFGZRAXDnaJjoeZ0qvA0fqjY3KyMYG@[84.178.233.216]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1F0GNi-1quW8m0; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:06 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01c61e7b$b130bd90$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c61e6b$03154f60$3ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:13:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: S9xSJ+Z6Yej68EpVeXl4AlevlFGZRAXDnaJjoeZ0qvA0fqjY3KyMYG X-TOI-MSGID: 290d7983-581e-4e08-9ed9-36ecd32f2c73 Subject: LF: Re: LF; T/A January 21 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Roelof, did you receive this via miniwhip? 73, Peter dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: LF: LF; T/A January 21 > Hello all, > > The receiver was switched on in QRSS60 at 07:00 UTC and just caught the > tailend of VO1NA. > I also found a DFCW signal at 137779 between 07:00 and 08:30 UTC, in broad > daylight. Is this XES? > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:26:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Hoj-00086I-Rz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:26:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Hoj-00085n-Ed for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:26:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0Hnf-0005SG-JY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:24:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0Hne-0005S7-R1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:24:58 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([63.240.77.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0IQ3-0002Px-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:04:42 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012112244101300gi46qe>; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:24:46 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c61e85$aa426740$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:24:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 21 JAN 06 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080104010209000400080709" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080104010209000400080709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Good signal levels, low static but some rapid fading. CT1DRP and DJ8WX present as usual...will be happy to watch for others as well!
 
 
Mal...saw some QRM on CT1DRP's lower DFCW frequency but didn't figure out what it was until after you had QRT. Would be helpful if you could move to a clear frequency. See capture below - plenty of open area but remember higher QRSS speeds reduce frequency resolution.
 
 
 
Jay, W1VD 
 
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--------------080104010209000400080709-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:16:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Ibk-0003ty-N5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:16:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Ibk-0003tV-Cs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:16:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0Iar-0005i2-Ec for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:15:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0Iaq-0005ht-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:15:48 +0000 Received: from mxsf31.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.130]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0JDI-0002pj-Bv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:55:33 +0000 Received: from mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.184]) by mxsf31.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0LDFeFP001151 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:15:40 -0500 Received: from 24-107-224-124.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([24.107.224.124]) by mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2006 08:15:40 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.01,208,1136178000"; d="scan'208"; a="659203188:sNHT40080000" Message-ID: <43D23442.9010807@w1tag.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:16:50 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c61e6b$03154f60$3ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Subject: Re: LF: LF; T/A January 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof, That is probably XES, but I can't be sure. XES will be back on tonight, starting earlier than I have during the week, probably around 2200 UTC. The DFCW with 90 second elements looks best on a screen set for QRSS30, as it matches the dash length. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:36:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Iv0-0007Ky-9P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:36:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Iv0-0007IS-5L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:36:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0IuD-0005pk-T3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:35:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0IuD-0005pb-IG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:35:49 +0000 Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0K9i-0000fy-A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:56:09 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:21702 helo=pcroelof) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0Isk-00089w-Ug for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:34:19 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c61e8f$5bc87be0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c61e6b$03154f60$3ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D23442.9010807@w1tag.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:34:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: LF; T/A January 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello John, Thank you. I will let my station running tonight. This morning I listened for Alaskan NDB's and found PVQ-376 for the third time. There appears to be a regular stable Polar path higher up the band. 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:17:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0JYH-0007La-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:17:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0JYG-0007KJ-Rx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:17:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0JXA-00062w-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:16:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0JXA-00062n-5Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:16:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout0167.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.167] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0Kmf-0000yn-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:36:24 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.113) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C1520300175AD9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:15:38 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c61e95$1bc39240$71e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:14:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
If RX9BS had been on normal QRS 20 or 30 last night I could have copied. In FSK mode the elements were too short and chopped up to be useful but I measured the shift at 1 hz.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0JvF-00072U-Mu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0JvF-000707-A4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0JuX-0006Ap-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0JuX-0006Ag-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout0159.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.159] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0LA0-0001Iw-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:00:34 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.53) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD0011CBAE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:38:02 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c61e98$3ca2c3c0$71e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003001c61e85$aa426740$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:37:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA 21 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: LF: TA 21 JAN 06

Good signal levels, low static but some rapid fading. CT1DRP and DJ8WX present as usual...will be happy to watch for others as well!
 
 
Mal...saw some QRM on CT1DRP's lower DFCW frequency but didn't figure out what it was until after you had QRT. Would be helpful if you could move to a clear frequency. See capture below - plenty of open area but remember higher QRSS speeds reduce frequency resolution.
Hi Jay
Tnx the shots and info. I will try 136.3175 khz, it looks clear at your end except you prefer another freq. My signal looks strong enough for qrs 10 or 20 if you open up the b/width. I usually work around midnight to around 0100 z for about an hour but could start earlier. Every time I transmit you are able to see my signal at qrs 10 to 20. I have been seen in the past at qrs 3 but the monitored b/width needs to be set for my speed.
I usually monitor at 10 or 20 at this end and can see the lower qrs speeds with elongated dots/dashes and narrower looking shift in the case of dfcw but it works well and I can see them all. In the past I have monitored TR signals in the qrs 3 mode and the dots/dashes are a mile long but perfectly readable.
73 and appreciate your reporting of sigs from over here.
de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0KSx-0000Ut-FR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0KSx-0000Ul-9A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0KSL-0006L1-8Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0KSK-0006Ks-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:15:08 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0L4n-0003vP-6e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:54:55 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006012115141701100qivgee>; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:14:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c61e9d$5b86d6a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003001c61e85$aa426740$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002e01c61e98$3ca2c3c0$71e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:14:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 21 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Mal
 
Yes, I seem to have no problem seeing you whenever you're on.
 
I would recommend 136.3165 khz as that will put you out in the open even if M0BMU is on the air. Will look for you in QRSS20 or 10 starting around 0000Z. 
 
We have another rain/snow storm on the way so things may be a bit noisey but will be watching in any case.
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA 21 JAN 06


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jay Rusgrove
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:24 PM
  Subject: LF: TA 21 JAN 06


  Good signal levels, low static but some rapid fading. CT1DRP and DJ8WX present as usual...will be happy to watch for others as well!

  Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html

  Mal...saw some QRM on CT1DRP's lower DFCW frequency but didn't figure out what it was until after you had QRT. Would be helpful if you could move to a clear frequency. See capture below - plenty of open area but remember higher QRSS speeds reduce frequency resolution.
  Hi Jay
  Tnx the shots and info. I will try 136.3175 khz, it looks clear at your end except you prefer another freq. My signal looks strong enough for qrs 10 or 20 if you open up the b/width. I usually work around midnight to around 0100 z for about an hour but could start earlier. Every time I transmit you are able to see my signal at qrs 10 to 20. I have been seen in the past at qrs 3 but the monitored b/width needs to be set for my speed.
  I usually monitor at 10 or 20 at this end and can see the lower qrs speeds with elongated dots/dashes and narrower looking shift in the case of dfcw but it works well and I can see them all. In the past I have monitored TR signals in the qrs 3 mode and the dots/dashes are a mile long but perfectly readable.
  73 and appreciate your reporting of sigs from over here.
  de Mal/G3KEV


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:23:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Kab-0007k9-6n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:23:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0Kaa-0007js-Vw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:23:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0KZm-0006QO-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:22:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0KZl-0006QF-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:22:49 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0LCF-00040m-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:02:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 68620 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 15:22:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 15:22:41 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:22:53 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c61e9e$8ccc40a0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcYeDNPjvYpS7dZPSiKOEiC0O0SRPwAkUUGg Subject: LF: RE: G3YXM Grabber [tunable loop] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary Yes I think it was the loop because I can see the wobbly interference that it picks up. It's amazing how little ERP you need to get 100 miles or so, I did some tests with Alan Melia and I got down to a few micro-Watts of ERP with him still able to read QRSS... I've been trying one of Roelof's e-field probes too, so we'll see how that compares. 73 Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 20 January 2006 22:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3YXM Grabber [tunable loop] Dave, LF I'm not sure if your grabber is on the loop antenna currently, but your antenna seems to be quite favourable in my direction. I was able to paint a respectable DFCW5 signal on your grabber while running only 1 watt RF into my antenna (160mA antenna current) I don't think I can reach your QTH on 1 watt out on any other band! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick Sent: 18 January 2006 20:41 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: TA 17 JAN 06 Joe I've recently been using a tuned rotatable loop antenna to receive DX and null out Rugby Loran and frankly it's poor, it picks up all the local noise going, the main antenna is much less noisy despite the Loran. Even so I've been regularly seeing "NA" and this morning the last good copy was at about 0840, well into daylight. I'll go back to the long-wire for the grabber tonight. 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:16:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0LPn-0004Wr-DP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:16:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0LPn-0004WH-7x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:16:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0LP3-0006gO-RT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:15:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0LP3-0006gF-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:15:49 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0MeY-0002RD-N5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:36:11 +0000 Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060121161133.ZYZI15755.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:11:33 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060121161133.NUUD23006.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:11:33 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:11:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D25D2A.3725.158B8D9@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: New calll? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I am getting an S9 signal from G0NVZ testing with QRSS1 on 137.675. My old callbook says he is in St Albans, some 8 miles from me. Is this a new station on the band? Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:41:46 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0MkD-0000tQ-3T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:41:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0MkC-0000sY-VD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:41:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0MjE-00073f-An for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:40:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0MjD-00073W-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:40:43 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0Nyl-0003mP-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:01:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 74078 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 17:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.147.159?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.147.159 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 17:40:26 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/236]); Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:39:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c61eb1$b0ab5160$9f937ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D25D2A.3725.158B8D9@localhost> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:39:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: New calll? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Mike, LF Group, This is John in St. Albans - my log book records working him in PSK31 back in 2004. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Dennison To: Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: LF: New calll? > I am getting an S9 signal from G0NVZ testing with QRSS1 on 137.675. > My old callbook says he is in St Albans, some 8 miles from me. Is > this a new station on the band? > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:23:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0OKk-00043u-Ou for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:23:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0OKk-0003zU-KC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:23:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0OJg-0007QF-2F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:22:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0OJf-0007Q6-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:22:27 +0000 Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.115]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0PZE-00056n-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:42:53 +0000 Received: from inet1z1x3pq7a (CPE-24-169-250-187.neb.res.rr.com [24.169.250.187]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id k0LJM7o9017786 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:22:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <01a101c61ec0$6446e640$6401a8c0@inet1z1x3pq7a> From: "Ron Kolarik" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:24:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Roelof, I'm just getting caught up on the last weeks mail and found your note. Would you please forward a copy to me. I'm interested in comparing it to the AMRAD antenna and I think I may still have some Burhans designs to compare also. Thank you, Ron K0IDT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: LF: Mini-Whip > Hello Mike and everybody else, > > Thank you for your interest. The file is 65 kB and seems to be a little > large for the list. I will send a copy to all who have asked for it. I have > written an extensive article on this antenna and have send it to Electron, a > Dutch Amateur Radio Magazine, almost a year ago. Unfortunately, it still has > not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not > available on a website yet. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:37:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0OXi-0007Br-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:36:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0OXi-0007Ad-Oe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:36:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0OX7-0007YC-BR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:36:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0OX6-0007Y3-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:36:20 +0000 Received: from smtpout0131.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.131] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0P9e-00060W-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:16:13 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.14) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C55445001243E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:34:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c61ec1$a51cfe60$0ee4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003001c61e85$aa426740$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <002e01c61e98$3ca2c3c0$71e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <000f01c61e9d$5b86d6a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:33:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA 21 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 21 JAN 06

Mal
 
Yes, I seem to have no problem seeing you whenever you're on.
 
I would recommend 136.3165 khz as that will put you out in the open even if M0BMU is on the air. Will look for you in QRSS20 or 10 starting around 0000Z. 
 
Jay.
I will tx on 136.3165 khz, hope to be on tonight if all goes to plan.
73 and gl de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
We have another rain/snow storm on the way so things may be a bit noisey but will be watching in any case.
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA 21 JAN 06


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jay Rusgrove
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:24 PM
  Subject: LF: TA 21 JAN 06


  Good signal levels, low static but some rapid fading. CT1DRP and DJ8WX present as usual...will be happy to watch for others as well!

  Captures: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html

  Mal...saw some QRM on CT1DRP's lower DFCW frequency but didn't figure out what it was until after you had QRT. Would be helpful if you could move to a clear frequency. See capture below - plenty of open area but remember higher QRSS speeds reduce frequency resolution.
  Hi Jay
  Tnx the shots and info. I will try 136.3175 khz, it looks clear at your end except you prefer another freq. My signal looks strong enough for qrs 10 or 20 if you open up the b/width. I usually work around midnight to around 0100 z for about an hour but could start earlier. Every time I transmit you are able to see my signal at qrs 10 to 20. I have been seen in the past at qrs 3 but the monitored b/width needs to be set for my speed.
  I usually monitor at 10 or 20 at this end and can see the lower qrs speeds with elongated dots/dashes and narrower looking shift in the case of dfcw but it works well and I can see them all. In the past I have monitored TR signals in the qrs 3 mode and the dots/dashes are a mile long but perfectly readable.
  73 and appreciate your reporting of sigs from over here.
  de Mal/G3KEV


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:32:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0PPB-0004FW-FH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:32:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0PPB-0004E5-Aj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:32:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0PO7-0007pu-2B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:31:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0PO6-0007pl-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:31:06 +0000 Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0Qdd-00063x-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:51:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([138.88.34.41]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0ITG00BH6MB5TAR3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:30:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:30:40 -0500 From: Andre Kesteloot In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <43D299F0.30007@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> <000901c61dac$20298450$ee9bfea9@oben> <007201c61ddc$b0d668d0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax;nscd1) Subject: LF: 2N5109 Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MIKE REID wrote:
I have samples of the 2N5109 on their way here.
That's the link to the manufacturer's webpage where they offer free samples. The J310 is also a free sample from Fairchild Semiconductors.
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
that transistor is an ideal choice for a "Noiseless Feedback" wideband amplifier
  73
André N4ICK
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:15:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0ZRb-0001V5-Tj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:15:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0ZRb-0001TQ-P9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:15:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ZQO-00035t-5t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:14:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ZQN-00035k-J0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:14:07 +0000 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0ag7-0002QD-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:34:44 +0000 Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060122071000.HYVE8724.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:10:00 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060122071000.ZQOJ28623.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:10:00 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:09:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D32FBF.31838.31CE0D@localhost> In-reply-to: <43D23442.9010807@w1tag.com> References: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: QRSS elements Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > . . . . .The DFCW with 90 second elements looks best on a screen set > for QRSS30, as it matches the dash length. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES I am confused by that statement. Surely DFCW with 90s elements has elements 90s long? Thus QRSS3 and DFCW3 will have the same dot length, which is where the speed increase comes from (ie no need for dashes). I do agree that with very long dot lengths it is often best to set Argo to a speed one step faster than the sending speed, but I have always assumed that to a minor design flaw in Argo. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:46:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0bnn-0005zK-TD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:46:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0bnn-0005xz-Hs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:46:27 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0bml-0003fP-Kh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:45:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0bmk-0003fG-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:45:22 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0cPc-0003re-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:25:33 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25067 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0blU-000FOi-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:44:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c61f38$5ba72c70$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D32FBF.31838.31CE0D@localhost> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:43:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: T/A January 21/22 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040100010500020202020205" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040100010500020202020205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, Though the background noise was fairly low, we had some static here last night. I just thought running QRSS120 might be better. WD2XES was received from 00.00 to 08:30 with several excellent ID's. There was fading, but the signal never disappeared. VO1NA was visible from 23:00 UTC, but suffered from deep fading. The best signal was received from 01:30 to 2:30 UTC. After that only traces could be seen. 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Gm Jay & Co
 
Last night I had the TX on from about 1130z - 0130z approx. Freq 136.316.5 khz QRS 20 so await the results.
After this I monitored 137.78 khz approx and at 0157z XES was a strong O copy signal using FSK and XDW was also O copy but more faded noticed. There was still a trace of XES at 0900z daylight this morning, although around 0700z the signal was better and VO1NA appeared on the scene.
It was an interesting night and I have some phots for anyone interested.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:16:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0e8i-0007he-4P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:16:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0e8h-0007hC-SQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:16:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0e7G-0004Ob-Lr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:14:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0e7G-0004OS-5L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:14:42 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0fN5-0005Gh-G4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:35:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 53235 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 12:14:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.144.216?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.144.216 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 12:14:15 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/236]); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:13:43 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c61f4d$49bb6ac0$d8908351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D32FBF.31838.31CE0D@localhost> <000b01c61f38$5ba72c70$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:13:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: T/A January 21/22 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090105040308080701090405" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090105040308080701090405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF Group, Thanks to Joe, VO1NA for another transatlantic contact - we had a three-cornered QSO last night with Joe simultaneously working G3YXM. Sigs from VO1NA were solid "O" copy for a period between about 2300 and 0445, in spite of considerable QRN. The attachment shows part of Joe's final (lower signal) with XES, who was also strong. Also visible in the attachment are faint QRSS sigs on 137.781kHz which might be "XNS" (didn't know that WD2XNS is QRV yet). Also, WD2XGJ was seen, but is down in the QSB in the attachment. I transmitted a beacon signal using DFCW40 centered on 136.3175kHz between about 0445 and 0815utc. All in all, quite a busy night! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Roelof Bakker To: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: LF: T/A January 21/22 > Hello all, > > Though the background noise was fairly low, we had some static here last > night. > I just thought running QRSS120 might be better. > > WD2XES was received from 00.00 to 08:30 with several excellent ID's. > There was fading, but the signal never disappeared. > > VO1NA was visible from 23:00 UTC, but suffered from deep fading. The best > signal was received from 01:30 to 2:30 UTC. After that only traces could be > seen. > > Best regards, > Roelof > ========================================================= > From: Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E > > Receiver: > Tuneable pre-amp, SPM-30 with 20 Hz filter > home made pitch shifter, 12 & 6 Hz active audio filters > > Aerial: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip-half pint (actual size: built in half a film > canister) mounted 5 metre high in a Magnolia tree > ========================================================== > --------------090105040308080701090405 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="na_xes_xns.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="na_xes_xns.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEBLAEsAAD/2wBDABQODxIPDRQSEBIXFRQYHjIhHhwcHj0sLiQySUBM S0dARkVQWnNiUFVtVkVGZIhlbXd7gYKBTmCNl4x9lnN+gXz/2wBDARUXFx4aHjshITt8U0ZT fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHx8fHz/wAAR 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(helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0eFv-0004Tj-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:23:39 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0esn-0004cA-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:03:52 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060122122328014003li6me>; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:23:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c61f4e$a65164a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:23:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 22 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Higher static levels from approaching cold front and line noise caused by high winds made for some messy captures. Stations received G3KEV, CT1DRP, M0BMU and unknown: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:37:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0eTR-0001IC-QN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:37:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0eTQ-0001GT-O1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:37:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0eSn-0004cR-U6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:36:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0eSn-0004cI-J1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:36:57 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0fid-0005n2-HZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:57:39 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1F0eSW-0005UW-TZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:36:40 +0100 Received: from p5486b24a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.178.74] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #21) id 1F0eSW-0006cp-O6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:36:40 +0100 Message-ID: <43D37C59.3040108@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:36:41 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: T/A January 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, Hope it's not too late ... Can you send me the details of your active antenna too ? Would be interesting for a camouflaged remote receiver which converts LF to VHF (or UHF). Furthermore, I noticed you were using SpecLab for the TA screenshot. This is a matter of taste: For really weak signals, I prefer the "Sunrise" color palette which gives better contrast than the quite colour-overloaded default palette. You can select a lot of different colour palettes from the main menu under "File".."Waterfall Colour Palette".."Load.." . Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:42:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0eXy-0000IU-6G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:42:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0eXy-0000Hl-2W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:42:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0eXT-0004kW-AZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:41:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0eXS-0004kN-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:41:46 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0fAM-00058r-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:22:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 64544 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 12:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 12:40:43 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:40:57 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000d01c61f4e$a65164a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYfTsDZ5RW409xqRt2sNhp5uS2AhwAAfflw Subject: LF: RE: TA 22 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay Unknown was me. In exhibit B you get a partial X then the M then two Ms (my report to Joe) then K. In exhibit C there's most of YXM with the M cut off. First T/A reprt for ages! ... Largely because I haven't been on. 73 Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: 22 January 2006 12:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA 22 JAN 06 Higher static levels from approaching cold front and line noise caused by high winds made for some messy captures. Stations received G3KEV, CT1DRP, M0BMU and unknown: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:13:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f2F-0008Ur-AK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:13:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f2F-0008Th-4H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:13:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f1a-0004uW-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:12:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f1Z-0004uN-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:12:53 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0gHO-0006CT-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:33:36 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F0f1G-0002H4-02; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:12:34 +0100 Received: from HW1 (VOYNKYZdreuFsMzXGLVT+2UWV40KBCojB5cHJQa6ja5a0zH4GA02YN@[84.133.84.32]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F0f15-1T5JPU0; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:12:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:12:22 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <212107845.20060122141222@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VOYNKYZdreuFsMzXGLVT+2UWV40KBCojB5cHJQa6ja5a0zH4GA02YN X-TOI-MSGID: b6f5e68f-88ed-4e1a-b254-c41f8f130855 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 21st/22nd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040608060002060907070903" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040608060002060907070903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A lot of activity last night in the T/A-window. Congrats to Dave, Jim and Joe completing the T/A QSO. Joe's signal was visible here 22:00-07:45, strong when he was back in beacon mode after 04:55. For the first time here copied 2 "XNS" strings from Jay, WD2XNS 03:45-04:20. The signal was weak but readable. Screenshot attached. Traces were visible since about 02:00. WD2XES was visible 21:45-08:45. There was a lot of fading on the signal. WD2XGJ seen here 00:30-08:20. On 137.778 was a carrier. The frequency shifted at 22:50 to 137.7775. Off about 00:20. Dex, WD2XKO? 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13:17:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f5i-0001xl-Hw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f5i-0001wh-DX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f50-0004zM-S1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:16:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f50-0004zD-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:16:26 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0gKo-0006G2-Td for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:37:09 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060122131601014003pro4e>; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:16:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:16:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TA 22 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dave With Jim's report and yours it all makes sense now...was trying to figure whose call sign had so many M's in it. Congratulations all on the three way! On a quiet night your signal would have been solid O copy. Hope you consider more transmitting in the TA window - can always use more signals to monitor. Jim WD2'XNS' ran test transmissions last night from about 0200 - 0415 at power levels between 10 and 100 watts on 137.781 kHz. Very surprised you saw anything! Thanks for the info. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: LF: RE: TA 22 JAN 06 > Jay > > Unknown was me. In exhibit B you get a partial X then the M then two Ms (my > report to Joe) then K. In exhibit C there's most of YXM with the M cut off. > > First T/A reprt for ages! ... Largely because I haven't been on. > > 73 > > Dave G3YXM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove > Sent: 22 January 2006 12:23 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: TA 22 JAN 06 > > Higher static levels from approaching cold front and line noise caused by > high winds made for some messy captures. Stations received G3KEV, CT1DRP, > M0BMU and unknown: > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f6Q-0003Ni-03 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0f6P-0003NW-Hr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f5z-00050U-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0f5y-00050L-Qo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:17:26 +0000 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by 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spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0g5D-00053v-FD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:20:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0g5D-00053f-9e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:20:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0g4E-0005Sj-Kz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:19:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0g4E-0005Sa-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:19:42 +0000 Received: from mxsf42.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.174]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0hK5-0006pe-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:40:26 +0000 Received: from mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf42.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0MEJJdX016712 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:19:19 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (24.107.224.124) by mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 22 Jan 2006 09:19:20 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.01,209,1136178000"; d="scan'208"; a="1969374297:sNHT15725800" Message-ID: <43D394A4.9020000@w1tag.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:20:20 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c61e71$5d31f290$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D32FBF.31838.31CE0D@localhost> In-Reply-To: <43D32FBF.31838.31CE0D@localhost> Subject: Re: LF: QRSS elements Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mike, Let me backtrack, as I didn't state the situation fully in yesterday's message. I was not trying to equate DFCW with 90 second elements to QRSS30! The issue is only about appearance on the screen. Most of the Argo shots I've seen of the 137.778 window have been set to 30 second dots, SLOW. This mode sharpens things up a bit, and gives a longer screen time. But a signal only made up of 30 second elements, such as DFCW, looks a little "thin." So I've been lengthening the elements for the "XES" callsign to 90 seconds, and the result has looked good on these screens. It also better fits the hours-long screens that Hartmut produces. Given the preponderance of dots in "XES", the length of the callsign is similar to QRSS30. That's all...I wasn't attempting to make any statement about the equivalence of the data rates. John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:38:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0hIF-0007ay-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:38:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0hIF-0007aq-BD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:38:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0hHH-0005rb-UJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:37:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0hHH-0005rS-Ii for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:37:15 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0iXB-0007dl-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:58:00 +0000 Received: from 88-106-159-52.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.159.52]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 22 Jan 2006 15:36:53 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAPQv00OHQSg Received: from 88-106-159-52.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.159.52]:4669 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F0hDm-000HrY-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:33:38 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:37:06 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <43D37C59.3040108@freenet.de> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: SpecLab Colours (was T/A January 21/22) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, ************** Wolf wrote :- You can select a lot of different colour palettes from the main menu under "File".."Waterfall Colour Palette".."Load.." . *************** But you can also create your own with :- "File".."Waterfall Colour Palette".."Edit.." Then use the "Save as file" to give it your own colour file name. I have tried a few variations with some unusual results & also some beneficial ones as well. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:30:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0j3G-0000eE-6I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:30:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0j3G-0000e0-1G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:30:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0j29-0006Rk-Gs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0j29-0006Rb-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:29:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0jfA-0007AF-0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:10:05 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2006 17:29:37 -0000 Received: from p54906E38.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.110.56] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 18:29:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <001a01c61f79$e346a700$0600a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:32:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ? 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To all ,
 
I would like to built a Tx antenne but with linited space I need at least a bulky 4 mh and variometer.
 
So I wonder if I could not use a loop antenna ( 20x 10m ) ? So I would not need such big coils ?
 
( high voltage vs. high current )
 
73, Uwe, DK1KQ
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:07:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0jcP-0003Mi-Qm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:07:18 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0jcP-0003Je-Mn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:07:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0jbc-0006fJ-RL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:06:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0jbc-0006fA-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:06:24 +0000 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0kEc-0007Fs-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:46:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 88274 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 18:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.12.2 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 18:05:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c61f7e$67dcc5e0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c61f79$e346a700$0600a8c0@router> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:05:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hu Uwe, the loop you quote is still quite small but it should radiate. I produced a Excel speadsheet that compares a loop with a T at the address below...I think the files is Loopcalc.xls but a click on this page should download it to you.
 
 
There are details for tuning and matching a loop entirly with switched capacitors somewhere. Rik, ON4YDs site may be the best starting place.
 
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 22 January 2006 17:32
Subject: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ?

To all ,
 
I would like to built a Tx antenne but with linited space I need at least a bulky 4 mh and variometer.
 
So I wonder if I could not use a loop antenna ( 20x 10m ) ? So I would not need such big coils ?
 
( high voltage vs. high current )
 
73, Uwe, DK1KQ
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:33:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0luI-0001pz-Ce for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:33:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0luI-0001ps-8e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:33:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0lt9-0007Ou-RZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:32:39 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0lt9-0007Ol-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:32:39 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0mWE-0008NO-CG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:13:03 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25105 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0lru-0005YU-LX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:31:22 +0000 Message-ID: <007501c61f92$c7ebbf40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:31:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: RE: SpecLab Colours (was T/A January 21/22) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Gary, Many thanks for the tip. I am new to this game and any help is much appreciated. The Watch List & Plot Window of SpecLab has succesfully been used here for finding Canadian NDB's at daytime, but that is something completely different. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt Middelburg, Netherlands From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:26:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0nf2-0004fx-Of for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:26:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0nf2-0004fq-Ko for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:26:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ndy-0007z9-QJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:25:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ndy-0007z0-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:25:06 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0oH5-0000MF-Dk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:05:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 37276 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 22:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.5.247?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.5.247 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 22:24:03 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/236]); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c61fa2$79333580$f7057ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c61f79$e346a700$0600a8c0@router> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:23:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Uwe, LF Group,
 
The trade-off is that, although the bulky coil is eliminated, it is replaced with a bulky high-voltage, high current tuning capacitor. Also, much thicker antenna wire will be required to get reasonably low loss in the loop. I think if the antenna will be very close to a lot of trees, etc., the loop is worth considering because its losses are less sensitive to the surroundings, but a vertical is probably better in a reasonably "open" location.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ?

To all ,
 
I would like to built a Tx antenne but with linited space I need at least a bulky 4 mh and variometer.
 
So I wonder if I could not use a loop antenna ( 20x 10m ) ? So I would not need such big coils ?
 
( high voltage vs. high current )
 
73, Uwe, DK1KQ
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0pw6-0001uI-Hr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0pw6-0001tv-D0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0pvT-0000O5-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:19 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0pvS-0000Nw-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:18 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0qYa-0000vI-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:31:47 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter73.comcast.net ([204.127.197.155](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012300510601500gncpae>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:07 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter73.comcast.net; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:05 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:05 +0000 Message-Id: <012320060051.3588.43D42879000D976A00000E0422073007930B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: XGJ-39 ? X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello the list, Having completely re-built my antenna tuner to handle higher power, i find that I lack sufficient capacitance to resonate the loop in the T/A window. I will be ordering a 15kV NP0 doorknob to bring the loop to resonance, but that will most likely take till next weekend. My question for the group - In the short term, Is there any value to putting a beacon (CW or QRSS) around 139 kHz? (No need for a fit of apoplexy, my experimental license covers 136-140 kHz). I have thought of putting a QRSS signal on 138.825 close enough to DFC-39 so that it may appear on spectra of those monitoring DFC-39. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:41:11 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0qhg-0002Zs-3u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:41:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0qhf-0002ZS-Rw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:41:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0qgp-0000kW-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:40:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0qgo-0000kN-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:40:14 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0rwp-0004bc-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:01:09 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABB7JN5CAG6XAE2 for (sender ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LFC4XPJF; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:26:06 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: <20060122.202601.2868.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5,7-29 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 10:5:661616647 X-MAIL-INFO: 457f232f7fbf23472f1f032f8f438fcaee57ce1f7a3beac71b2e1eebce9b67aeef02cee7efe70347 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewDw66iLEF8rwb6nwBlj3i+yUKVfoF9HGQw== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: XGJ-39 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) will the door knob handle the current ?? Bob K3DJC On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:05 +0000 k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ) writes: > Hello the list, > > Having completely re-built my antenna tuner to handle higher > power, i find that I lack sufficient capacitance to resonate the > loop in the T/A window. I will be ordering a 15kV NP0 doorknob to > bring the loop to resonance, but that will most likely take till > next weekend. > My question for the group - In the short term, Is there any > value to putting a beacon (CW or QRSS) around 139 kHz? (No need for > a fit of apoplexy, my experimental license covers 136-140 kHz). > I have thought of putting a QRSS signal on 138.825 close > enough to DFC-39 so that it may appear on spectra of those > monitoring DFC-39. > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:51:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0qri-0002Pk-B9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:51:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0qri-0002Pe-6s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:51:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0qr9-0000qB-Tn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:50:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0qr9-0000q2-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:50:55 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0s79-0004nF-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:11:50 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012301502801500gl91de>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:50:29 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:50:25 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: riese-k3djc@juno.com Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:50:25 +0000 Message-Id: <012320060150.23556.43D43660000C419800005C0422058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ-39 ? X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Bob, I hope so, it will be a 200pF unit in parallel with 6000 pF total capacitance. It should experience 200/6000 or 3.3% of the total current. Total current should be 30 amps, I'm asking the doorknob to handle 1 amp. The HT-57 doorknob I plan on using is rated for 15 amps (though I'm not sure what frequency the 15 amp rating applies to). Time will tell! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: riese-k3djc@juno.com > > will the door knob handle the current ?? > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:51:05 +0000 k2ors@comcast.net (Warren > K2ORS/WD2XGJ) writes: > > Hello the list, > > > > Having completely re-built my antenna tuner to handle higher > > power, i find that I lack sufficient capacitance to resonate the > > loop in the T/A window. I will be ordering a 15kV NP0 doorknob to > > bring the loop to resonance, but that will most likely take till > > next weekend. > > My question for the group - In the short term, Is there any > > value to putting a beacon (CW or QRSS) around 139 kHz? (No need for > > a fit of apoplexy, my experimental license covers 136-140 kHz). > > I have thought of putting a QRSS signal on 138.825 close > > enough to DFC-39 so that it may appear on spectra of those > > monitoring DFC-39. > > > > > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:11:46 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0rBJ-0002gC-4a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:11:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0rBI-0002fp-UM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:11:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0rAi-00011w-Jf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:11:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0rAi-00011n-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:11:08 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0sQm-0005AO-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:32:03 +0000 Received: from m11.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABB7JQZ9AQUBVMJ for (sender ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LFC7FKPS; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:09:43 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:08:56 -0500 Message-ID: <20060122.210921.2868.8.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,7-8,13-21,23-28,30-31,32-32767 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 9:4:177079901 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewDw66iLEF8rwrItnPpjUbasO69B38JmAzQ== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.lax.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Fw: Re: LF: XGJ-39 ? 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Hi Bob,
    I hope so, it will be a 200pF unit in parallel with 6000 pF total capacitance. It should experience 200/6000 or 3.3% of the total current. Total current should be 30 amps, I'm asking the doorknob to handle 1 amp.  The HT-57 doorknob I plan on using is rated for 15 amps (though I'm not sure what frequency the 15 amp rating applies to). Time will tell!
 
 
 
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
 
should have known it was to be divided current,, keep your eye open for the
WW2 RF caps at hamfests,,, problem is some folk think there antique and
want money for them
 
HAR
 
I have picked up some and they generally check OK even though they are old
 
Bob
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:40:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0rdD-0003ue-H4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:40:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0rdC-0003uF-QE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:40:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0rcV-0001EO-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:39:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0rcU-0001EF-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:39:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0sFh-0001nT-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:20:22 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0N2XFtZ020369 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:33:15 -0500 Received: from server (dial-23.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.23]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0N2ZgD6011552 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:35:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <029301c61fc5$2692a180$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:31:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070500010800060900000309" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070500010800060900000309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jay, Your QRSS signal is quite solid into EN93dr this evening! 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([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0s9C-0003YB-GP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:13:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0s8O-0001V2-1x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:12:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0s8N-0001Ut-HT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:12:47 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([63.240.77.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0slY-0001wn-PA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:53:19 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006012303123101400koc54e>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:12:37 +0000 Message-ID: <003d01c61fca$dc61f560$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <029301c61fc5$2692a180$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:12:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) JB Thanks for the capture. Looks like you've got your receiving setup working well. Was interested to see you received TA activity last week. Jay, W1VD p.s. XNS is GPS disciplined at 137781...for calibration purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: LF: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR > Hi Jay, > > Your QRSS signal is quite solid into EN93dr this evening! > Your my first new logging in almost three weeks time. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:15:05 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0sAb-0003EZ-8K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:15:05 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0sAb-0003Dy-3n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:15:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0sA8-0001Xy-Eq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:14:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0sA7-0001Xn-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:14:35 +0000 Received: from omc2-s7.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0snK-0001xd-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:55:08 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.173.54]) by omc2-s7.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:27 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:27 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV24.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:14:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060122.210921.2868.8.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:14:27 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2006 03:14:27.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E8B36E0:01C61FCB] Subject: Re: LF: XGJ-39 ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
What do those WW-2 RF caps look like? I have a bunch of oldies here collecting dust. Also have some huge old Soviet door knob type caps.
 
Mike
WE0H
----- Original Message -----
From: riese-k3djc
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: LF: XGJ-39 ?

 
Hi Bob,
    I hope so, it will be a 200pF unit in parallel with 6000 pF total capacitance. It should experience 200/6000 or 3.3% of the total current. Total current should be 30 amps, I'm asking the doorknob to handle 1 amp.  The HT-57 doorknob I plan on using is rated for 15 amps (though I'm not sure what frequency the 15 amp rating applies to). Time will tell!
 
 
 
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
 
should have known it was to be divided current,, keep your eye open for the
WW2 RF caps at hamfests,,, problem is some folk think there antique and
want money for them
 
HAR
 
I have picked up some and they generally check OK even though they are old
 
Bob
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:08:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0us2-0008Cf-OR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:08:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0us2-0008CI-Gc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:08:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ur8-0002U4-8k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:07:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0ur7-0002Tv-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:07:09 +0000 Received: from grunt10.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0vUN-0002iU-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:47:45 +0000 Received: from 203-109-166-6.dialup.ihug.co.nz (cobaltxp) [203.109.166.6] by grunt10.ihug.co.nz with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1F0uqy-0008Su-00; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:07:01 +1300 Message-ID: <000001c61fe3$3958dc80$06a66dcb@cobaltxp> From: "Murray ZL1BPU" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001801c61e9e$8ccc40a0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:23:46 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: ZL1BPU QRV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, I thought I'd better introduce myself to the group now that I am on the air. I am operational on 181kHz and have had resonable results considering I'm a beginner at LF! In just one evening I was copied by numerous stations with RST 569 from ZL4OL at a distance of about 1000km. I was running about 250W. I have a lot of improvements to make, (I'm sure everyone on LF thinks the same!), but I'm pleased to have made such a good start. I'm currently running a beacon on 181.400kHz with 1W output, and it has been confirmed on Argo by ZL2CA at about 450km range. My station consists of: Exciter - ZL1BPU LF Exciter, DDS, with new firmware including 'Castle' Mode and JASON, 1W output to 250kHz, TCXO reference. Transmitter - One drawer of a Southern Avionics (USA) SC1000 USCG DGPS transmitter, 1kW capable. I have the whole system, ex-Navy surplus! Antenna - Marconi Tee with 70m top wire and sloping 20m upwire. Highest point 8m. Tuner is original Southern Avionics coil with a 'bucket of wire' inductively coupled in the top for 1.95mH total. Coil grounded and tapped to transmitter. Four short radials and ground stake. RX Antenna - homebrew active whip, J310 cascode design, with 500kHz LP filter, mounted 10m from house and 7m up in the air. Isolated feed to receiver and battery supply. Goes well from 10kHz upwards. Nice quiet operating site. Receivers - Harris RF-505A with frequency referenced to HP 5065A Rubidium Standard - Icom IC-R71 The transmitter is VERY interesting. Only a few years old, it is a broadband design, and uses a Class D H-bridge FET transmitter, each 500W module with its own Class S modulator / power supply adjustable 0 - 130V at 7A. The modulator has 0 - 4kHz bandwidth, so is AM capable. Anyone for Kahn EER? I key the drive and the modulator with the LF Exciter. Transmitter efficiency is > 95%. More info on the transmitter on my web site. 73, Murray ZL1BPU www.qsl.net/zl1bpu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:09:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0xhc-0007Wh-HJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:09:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0xhc-0007Vf-D5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:09:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0xhL-0003aE-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:09:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0xhK-0003a5-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:09:14 +0000 Received: from grunt3.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.254.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0yxV-0000Si-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:30:16 +0000 Received: from 203-109-180-3.dialup.ihug.co.nz (cobaltxp) [203.109.180.3] by grunt3.ihug.co.nz with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1F0xgv-0003KA-00; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:08:54 +1300 Message-ID: <000701c61ffc$a1e84010$03b46dcb@cobaltxp> From: "Murray ZL1BPU" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D493DB.15534.6E234E@localhost> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:08:21 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Kahn EER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Is anybody doing any work with Kahn Envelope Elimination and Restoration technology on LF? It would be especially applicable to those of us with nonlinear LF transmitters (class C, D, E) wishing to run sound card based modes (and even SSB). I'm especially interested to know about any sound card to LF carrier and amplitude exciter designs or converters, or I and Q converters. 73, Murray ZL1BPU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0yKR-0005CY-MF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0yKR-0005C7-Gn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0yK5-0003oj-Qo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0yK5-0003oa-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:17 +0000 Received: from smtpout0187.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.187] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0yxQ-0003lN-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:29:57 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.167) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD0013F974 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:48:17 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c62002$1da1bc40$a7d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:47:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TR ACTY Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
I did not TX last nite but monitored TR instead and saw the following acty using the vertical antenna.
 
VO1NA    
XKO
WD2XES (sending full callsign fsk)
XGJ ( I think, putting bits together because I could not get a full call. A good signal at times when visible).
 
The most consistant signal was WD2XES and the only one visible around midnight, no sign of any of the others at this time.
All signals visible around 0700z, which seems the best time at this QTH at present.
Signals still visible at 0830z but going rapidly down, all gone around 0900z
 
Antenna in use is the Vertical and monitor set at 15 min intervals.
It would be interesting to know the observations of others South from me. I am probably the most Northern station and it could well be that signals peak at different times from the others.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:15:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0zfp-0007kz-UZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:15:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0zfp-0007ii-NY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:15:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zf4-00044f-Ky for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:15:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zf4-00044W-Az for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:15:02 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F10vH-0001h6-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:36:06 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060123111440012005si1de>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:14:40 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c6200e$34636d00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:14:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 23 JAN06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) No report or captures today due to lack of EU activity. Will continue to monitor. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0ziz-0006Rj-ID for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0ziz-0006RU-E5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zir-00049T-Mk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:18:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zir-00049K-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:18:57 +0000 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F10MD-0004QC-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:59:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 33133 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2006 11:18:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.120.250 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2006 11:18:53 -0000 Message-ID: <004f01c6200e$cbaecf60$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D493DB.15534.6E234E@localhost> <000701c61ffc$a1e84010$03b46dcb@cobaltxp> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:18:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Kahn EER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Murray Welcome to the Reflector....a well known call-sign.....nice to see some more keen active stations from ZL. taking on the LF challenge I dont know whether it fits you definition but Andy G4JNT and Jim M0BMU did some work on using switching PAs for BPSK. Andy published a modulator design which is in the "LF Experimenters Handbook" by Peter Dodd G3LDO. Jim used this but also developed an "analogue" technique for sliding the phase change edges. This is obviously a lot easier with a DDS, and Brian CT1DRP has transmitted BPSK this way. The 136 band is not really wide enough for SSB so there has been little interest though I have copied Dave G3YXM on SSB using a linear PA.. The "widest" trasmission I can ever remember seeing in Europe was a few clover signals. PSK31 has been used but only seems suitable for short range, and does not stack up with other modes (even morse) for DX capability. This may be due to the impulsive noise on LF and the lack of error detection/correction (??) Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Murray ZL1BPU To: Sent: 23 January 2006 09:08 Subject: LF: Kahn EER? > Is anybody doing any work with Kahn Envelope Elimination and Restoration > technology on LF? It would be especially applicable to those of us with > nonlinear LF transmitters (class C, D, E) wishing to run sound card based > modes (and even SSB). > > I'm especially interested to know about any sound card to LF carrier and > amplitude exciter designs or converters, or I and Q converters. > > 73, > Murray ZL1BPU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0zjb-00069b-8e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F0zjb-000699-3Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zjT-0004BO-R3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F0zjT-0004BE-EI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:35 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F10Mq-0004Qb-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:00:17 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006012311192701400khsnje>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:27 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c6200e$df510e20$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2d9.138ed00.3105f474@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:19:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: T/A 22/23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Markus Yes...that would be XNS at 781. Shut things down at 0500Z...apparently just when signals levels were getting good. Not quite ready for unattended operation yet ;~) . Thanks for the capture. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:57 AM Subject: Re: LF: T/A 22/23rd > Hi all, > > after a cold and relatively quiet night, I was greeted by several traces on > the TA grabber. > Joe VO1NA on 137777.02 with the best signal here for a long time, strong "QSO > quality" between 5:30 and 7:05. XES on 779/779.2 moderate but steady. On > 781.00 there were a few unid dashes between 4:37 and 5:03, possibly XNS for the > first time? Also weak dashes with a slight upward chirp around 777.75 at 4:41, > 5:40, 6:14, 7:20. Complete screenshot saved at > http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_23Jan06_0427-0820.gif (258kB). > > 73 and have a nice week > > Markus, > DF6NM in Nuernberg, JN59NK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:05:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F10Rs-0002o5-IO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:05:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F10Rs-0002nt-F7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:05:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F10RX-0004RU-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:05:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F10RW-0004RL-NT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:05:06 +0000 Received: from smtpout0135.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.135] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F114v-0004hc-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:45:50 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.172) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C152030019D716 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:04:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c62015$324ac200$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <029301c61fc5$2692a180$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:04:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:31 AM Subject: LF: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR > Hi Jay, > > Your QRSS signal is quite solid into EN93dr this evening! > Your my first new logging in almost three weeks time. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr Hi JB. Are you looking out for EU acty? around 136.317 khz, if so what times? 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:06:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F10TJ-0003Ky-7f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:06:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F10TJ-0003Io-2O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:06:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F10TB-0004UM-OJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:06:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F10TB-0004UC-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:06:49 +0000 Received: from smtpout0137.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.137] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F116Z-0004iH-OW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:47:32 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.172) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C152030019D70E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:04:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c62015$30f36f60$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <83F3FC3E61CF7C4CAD05A740C54283341E0BE9@btss020a.ww300.siemens.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:00:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: I'm back...but Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gasparik, Richard" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: LF: I'm back...but Hi LF-ers... Just after 2 years and 6 days I have transmitted my signal on 136kHz. Sorry to say, but the local noise is growing and at this time is so strong, that I can't copy anything (exept strong stations as S52AB, etc). So I deaf. I tried to build loop receiving antenna, but the local noise is also strong. Will inform you later, what's new, but I hope that I'll be QRV very soon again. 73 de Rich OM2TW Hi Rich Your signal was very good yesterday and I was surprised to see you after a long time especially on QRS. I expected you to be on CW !! 73 hpe to wrk u agn soon after a long time. de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:54:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F141Q-00025T-8R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:54:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F141Q-000259-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:54:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F140A-0004xx-7m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:53:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1409-0004xo-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:53:05 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F14db-0006xz-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:33:53 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F13z8-0006DO-02; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:52:02 +0100 Received: from HW1 (TtdieqZOYe61hRXR6CF+NJ9ujK8hjPycrHyLsLF9S5lOU+uXEJWNsB@[84.133.93.149]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F13yq-0uWvNA0; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:51:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:51:43 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <677995103.20060123165143@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TtdieqZOYe61hRXR6CF+NJ9ujK8hjPycrHyLsLF9S5lOU+uXEJWNsB X-TOI-MSGID: c5ce975e-7756-4485-9a3d-34cf00ba2ac7 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS. Captures 21:50-07:45 UTC can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:36:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F14fm-0003C7-0i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:36:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F14fl-0003Bk-Ss for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:36:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F14fM-00056w-JJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:35:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F14fM-00056n-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:35:40 +0000 Received: from mxout02.versatel.de ([212.7.152.119]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F15Ip-0007EC-8Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:16:29 +0000 Received: from mx02.versatel.de (mx02.versatel.de [212.7.146.2]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0NGZVxr017537 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:35:32 +0100 Received: from localhost (webmail2.versatel.de [62.214.100.55]) by mx02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0NGZV9m022145 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:35:31 +0100 Received: from i577a640d.versanet.de (i577a640d.versanet.de [87.122.100.13]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:35:31 +0100 Message-ID: <20060123173531.0ch0pl7ugkrgg004@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:35:31 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c6200e$34636d00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <001901c6200e$34636d00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: Re: LF: TA 23 JAN06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Zitat von Jay Rusgrove : > No report or captures today due to lack of EU activity. Will continue > to monitor. > > Jay, W1VD > > > > Hi Jay, DJ8WX is off the air because you would like to see other EU stations on your screen. Regards Uwe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:06:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F159I-0001ze-Ln for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:06:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F159I-0001wb-EK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:06:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F158h-0005Ey-DM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:05:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F158g-0005Ep-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:05:58 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F15mA-0007Qk-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:46:48 +0000 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1F158d-00006z-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:05:55 +0100 Received: from p5486c629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.198.41] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #21) id 1F158d-00044R-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:05:55 +0100 Message-ID: <43D50D00.8070607@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:06:08 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D493DB.15534.6E234E@localhost> <000701c61ffc$a1e84010$03b46dcb@cobaltxp> In-Reply-To: <000701c61ffc$a1e84010$03b46dcb@cobaltxp> Subject: Re: LF: Kahn EER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Murray, Welcome to the group ... About I/Q-exciters for LF: Here is a VERY ugly one (mine ;-) http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/phasing_lf_exciter/index.html And here is a much nicer one: http://www.w1tag.com/Phasing.htm Some of the LF-specific software bundles (Jason, SpecLab) provide the necessary I/Q outputs to send CW, QRSS, HELL, PSK31, etc already. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . Murray ZL1BPU schrieb: > Is anybody doing any work with Kahn Envelope Elimination and > Restoration technology on LF? It would be especially applicable to > those of us with nonlinear LF transmitters (class C, D, E) wishing to > run sound card based modes (and even SSB). > > I'm especially interested to know about any sound card to LF carrier > and amplitude exciter designs or converters, or I and Q converters. > > 73, > Murray ZL1BPU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:31:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F15X5-0000r8-V6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:31:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F15X5-0000qE-Qh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:31:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F15Wj-0005Mw-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:30:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F15Wj-0005Mn-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:30:49 +0000 Received: from tucana.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.215.113]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F16AC-0007al-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:11:39 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1F15WZ-000093-EL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:30:39 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:30:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c62042$ba2e1370$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c61fe3$3958dc80$06a66dcb@cobaltxp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-UH-MailScanner-Information: UH-mail X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: RE: ZL1BPU QRV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ...The transmitter is VERY interesting. Only a few years old, it is a broadband design, and uses a Class D H-bridge FET transmitter, each 500W module with its own Class S modulator / power supply adjustable 0 - 130V at 7A. The modulator has 0 - 4kHz bandwidth, so is AM capable. Anyone for Kahn EER? ... Dear Murray, LF Group, Yes, I have been using an envelope elimination and restoration system to transmit various BPSK modes for some years now. The PA is one of the "Decca" 1.2kW class D units re-tuned for 136kHz. The HT supply to this is 0-60V, 0-22A supplied via a modulator that is basically a big series regulator. Using a linear modulator sounds like a bad idea, but with BPSK the crest factor of the signal is not very great, and most of the time the PA is running near full output, so consequently only a modest amount of power is dissipated in the modulator. The overall efficiency is still around 80%. Andy, G4JNT, has published a switch-mode modulator design for a class D amplifier. Originally, I used it with VE2IQ's "Coherent" mode, which generates straight binary data via the serial port. This was used to key a hardware phase modulator, and, via a waveform-shaping circuit, to generate the envelope for the amplitude modulator. I have also used it with KK7KA's "Wolf" mode, which was the first successful transatlantic 136kHz data mode signal. Also I have used it to generate PSK31 and a slowed-down "PSK08" version, using DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab software to generate an on-off keyed tone to provide the binary data. At the moment, I am considering modifying it to obtain envelope and phase signals from a sound-card generated signal, which should make it more easily compatible with most data-mode software now around. The main problem with the more exotic modes on LF is very few stations are able to transmit them, and also receiving them is more complicated. The "visual" modes like QRSS and DFCW are simple to generate, and several signals can be received at once, without precise frequency calibration, etc. PSK31 has been tried by several LF stations; it works OK when there is little QRN, but because there is no error correction, each impulse of static has a 50% chance of corrupting 1 bit, so it rapidly becomes unreadable when the QRN builds up, even though the signal may remain quite audible. Since the European band is only 2.1kHz wide, and some of that is occupied by utility signals, SSB and the wider data modes are not very practical here! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:07:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F166C-0008JR-Lt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:07:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F166C-0008IR-E4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:07:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F165C-0005Uw-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:06:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F165C-0005Un-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:06:26 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F17LR-0006ck-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:27:36 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter05.comcast.net ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012318055801500gsmjre>; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:05:59 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter05.comcast.net; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:05:54 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "james moritz" Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:05:54 +0000 Message-Id: <012320061805.1968.43D51B01000D5014000007B022007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: ZL1BPU QRV X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim, Do you have your linear regulator for the Decca written up? I'm particularly interested in how it is interfaced to the serial data comming from the computer. Thanks & 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "james moritz" > > ...The transmitter is VERY interesting. Only a few years old, it is a > broadband design, and uses a Class D H-bridge FET transmitter, each 500W > module with its own Class S modulator / power supply adjustable 0 - 130V at > 7A. The modulator has 0 - 4kHz bandwidth, so is AM capable. Anyone for Kahn > EER? ... > > Dear Murray, LF Group, > > Yes, I have been using an envelope elimination and restoration system to > transmit various BPSK modes for some years now. The PA is one of the "Decca" > 1.2kW class D units re-tuned for 136kHz. The HT supply to this is 0-60V, > 0-22A supplied via a modulator that is basically a big series regulator. > Using a linear modulator sounds like a bad idea, but with BPSK the crest > factor of the signal is not very great, and most of the time the PA is > running near full output, so consequently only a modest amount of power is > dissipated in the modulator. The overall efficiency is still around 80%. > Andy, G4JNT, has published a switch-mode modulator design for a class D > amplifier. > > Originally, I used it with VE2IQ's "Coherent" mode, which generates straight > binary data via the serial port. This was used to key a hardware phase > modulator, and, via a waveform-shaping circuit, to generate the envelope for > the amplitude modulator. I have also used it with KK7KA's "Wolf" mode, which > was the first successful transatlantic 136kHz data mode signal. Also I have > used it to generate PSK31 and a slowed-down "PSK08" version, using DL4YHF's > Spectrum Lab software to generate an on-off keyed tone to provide the binary > data. At the moment, I am considering modifying it to obtain envelope and > phase signals from a sound-card generated signal, which should make it more > easily compatible with most data-mode software now around. > > The main problem with the more exotic modes on LF is very few stations are > able to transmit them, and also receiving them is more complicated. The > "visual" modes like QRSS and DFCW are simple to generate, and several > signals can be received at once, without precise frequency calibration, etc. > PSK31 has been tried by several LF stations; it works OK when there is > little QRN, but because there is no error correction, each impulse of static > has a 50% chance of corrupting 1 bit, so it rapidly becomes unreadable when > the QRN builds up, even though the signal may remain quite audible. Since > the European band is only 2.1kHz wide, and some of that is occupied by > utility signals, SSB and the wider data modes are not very practical here! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:52:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F16nf-0006Ax-0f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:52:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F16ne-000693-T8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:52:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F16n3-0005eL-Sz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:51:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F16n3-0005eC-A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:51:45 +0000 Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl ([195.241.79.178]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F17QY-0008KH-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:32:37 +0000 Received: from [195.241.28.205] (helo=default) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl with smtp (Tiscali http://www.tiscali.nl) id 1F16my-0004j8-JO for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: <005001c6204e$80ae91e0$cd1cf1c3@default> From: "Theo Dukers" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c61c4f$6ae478f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:54:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Roelof, Could you send me a copy of your mini-whip antenna ? I work with the selective voltmeters Type SPM-12 for LF reception with narrow bandwiths as you do. For antennas I use both loop and whipantennas. I agree with you that sometimes the loop and sometimes the whip antenna gives a better signal to noice (or interference) situation. Depending on the type of interference and the distance to the source of this interference. Is the smal book you refer to number 182 by Franzis ? Regards, Theo (PA3AYK) located near Zutphen The Netherlands. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: LF: Mini-Whip > Hello Mike and everybody else, > > Thank you for your interest. The file is 65 kB and seems to be a little > large for the list. I will send a copy to all who have asked for it. I have > written an extensive article on this antenna and have send it to Electron, a > Dutch Amateur Radio Magazine, almost a year ago. Unfortunately, it still has > not appeared in print. This is the reason that the information is not > available on a website yet. > > Just a few words on the development of the antenna. Four years ago I have > been building all kind of loops, as I was convinced that loops are best at > LF. I spend a whole winter season and they worked excellent in receiving > local noise. I almost gave up, believing that weak signal reception was not > possible in a city environment. As a last attempt, I connected the 12 m long > open feeders of my 80 m dipole together and used it as T-antenna. Though 6 m > of the feedline runs close to the wall, local noise was much lower. > Reception was much improved and using a RF-isolating transformer it worked > even better. > Then I started experimenting with whip antennas. I have done a lot of > research, which includes field reception tests in a RF-quiet environment, > where I could not find a difference between a loop and an active whip. At > home it is different. > I found that at LF local noise in the electric field is contained inside a > building, whilst local noise in the magnetic field is not. The screening for > the electric field can be as large as 30 - 40 dB for a concrete building. So > far I have found one written source that confirms this phenomenon: a small > German book on active antennas. > > As you can read in the attachment, it was possible to reduce the size of an > active whip considerable. The "standard" mini-whip is 8 cm long. At present, > I am using one that has been squeezed inside half a film canister: 30 mm > high! Passive electric field antennas have also been tested, using a 100 : 1 > RF transformer. In this case the "antenna" was a large 5 kg coffee tin. It > worked fine. > > Reception results have been very nice. At present my main interest is > chasing NDB's. However, I have had solid qrss60 copy of VO1NA, WD2XKO and > WD2XDW around 137.777 kHz. Regarding NDB's; in a little over three years, > 1250 different stations made it into my log. To be honest, I must confess > that I am using narrow bandwidth aural reception with a basic bandwidth of > 20 Hz, provided by a SPM-30 SLM and a pair of modified PA0LQ active filters > which reduce the bandwidth to 12 or 6 Hz. For NDB reception this compensates > for a large extend the lack of directivity of the mini-whip. > > I am not saying that loops are bad antennas. To the contrary, I still have > an active loop and use it from time to time in a phasing system with my > mini-whip. That is, when local noise is low. Last week I have been lucky in > receiving a NDB from Alaska: station PVQ on 376 kHz, Put River, Deadhorse, > 6288 km. Reception was over a Polar path and the signal was very stable, > without fading. Finbar O'Connor, EI0CF heard it a few days later, using a > screened loop. This shows that both antennas can be great performers. > > This all might sound a bit odd, but this antenna is for real. I have put a > lot of work in it and it has been great fun. You do not have to believe me > (probably I should not have done that myself, four years ago). But whoever > wants a small antenna, just give it a try. As you might have gathered: it > does not work inside. > > Thank you for the bandwidth. > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > P.S. the summery will be send a little later > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:41:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F17Yo-00042l-21 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:41:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F17Yn-00042O-NH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:41:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F17YE-0005pc-LO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:40:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F17YE-0005pT-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:40:30 +0000 Received: from mtao03.charter.net ([209.225.8.188]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F18Bm-0000TF-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:21:23 +0000 Received: from mxip34-10.charter.net ([10.20.203.74]) by mtao03.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060123193619.GKGL3657.mtao03.charter.net@mxip34-10.charter.net> for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:36:19 -0500 Received: from 68-118-232-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([68.118.232.97]) by mxip34-10.charter.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2006 14:35:26 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Message-ID: <43D53046.7010507@w1tag.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:36:38 +0000 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c62042$ba2e1370$e6a4c593@RD40002> In-Reply-To: <000001c62042$ba2e1370$e6a4c593@RD40002> Subject: Re: LF: RE: ZL1BPU QRV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jim, >The main problem with the more exotic modes on LF is very few stations are able to transmit them, and also receiving them is more complicated. < I'm ready when you are... John A. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:52:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F17kC-0000v6-8z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:52:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F17kC-0000ub-5H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:52:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F17jx-0005wA-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:52:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F17jx-0005w1-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:52:37 +0000 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F190I-0008Dv-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:13:49 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.74.64e90876 (17377) for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:52:11 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <74.64e90876.31068deb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:52:11 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 Subject: Re: LF: Kahn EER? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Well, I hadn't associated the name Kahn with EER that closely since the Sixties. :)  It was important to a lot of their "compatible SSB" work, but I don't think they deserve enough of the credit for the idea to stick their name on it.
 
However, if you have access to Motorola application notes, you might look for some articles by the late Helge Granville on the subject of EER.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:56:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19fb-0000dN-1V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:56:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19fa-0000d2-Om for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:56:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F19ef-0006HV-AA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:55:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F19ee-0006HM-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:55:16 +0000 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1Av0-0001Bw-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:16:31 +0000 Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060123215109.HLKO8724.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:51:09 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060123215109.WQGK23006.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:51:09 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:50:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D54FC1.9121.1CA2B27@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: EU-NA test Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Having improved the engineering of my antenna, I am able to try some night-time tests. From tonight I shall transmit 'XDV' using QRSS60 on 137.3175kHz (please let me know if that frequency causes anyone a problem). Reports welcome, of course. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19iI-0001NY-55 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19iI-0001JF-0J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F19iB-0006La-QK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:58:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F19iB-0006LR-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:58:55 +0000 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1AyW-0001Gv-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:20:09 +0000 Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060123215832.HTTN8724.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:58:32 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060123215832.RFXZ29891.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:58:32 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:58:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D55183.9929.1D10579@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: EU-NA correction Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Oops. My frequency will of course be 136.3175kHz, not 137.... Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:12:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19ut-0008Gz-1o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:12:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F19us-0008Gp-UT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:12:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F19ub-0006UE-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:11:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F19ub-0006U5-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:11:45 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1BAx-0001Rk-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:32:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 12865 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2006 22:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.18.222?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.18.222 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2006 22:10:27 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.21/236]); Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:09:54 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c62069$bd5a3b60$de128351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D54FC1.9121.1CA2B27@localhost> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:09:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: EU-NA test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Mike, You appear to be on 136.3175, but apart from that fine :-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Dennison To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: LF: EU-NA test > Having improved the engineering of my antenna, I am able to try some > night-time tests. From tonight I shall transmit 'XDV' using QRSS60 on > 137.3175kHz (please let me know if that frequency causes anyone a > problem). > > Reports welcome, of course. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1A1e-0007Rx-7s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1A1d-0007MR-Tu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1A1R-0006Zi-8q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:18:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1A1Q-0006ZZ-U1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:18:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1BHo-0001Yt-Ct for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:40:03 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0NM9LY0025164 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:09:21 -0500 Received: from server (dial-228.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.228]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0NMBqUE002274 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02b901c62069$45f3d360$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <029301c61fc5$2692a180$0b01a8c0@server> <001901c62015$324ac200$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:06:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: LF: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR > Hi JB. > Are you looking out for EU acty? around 136.317 khz, if so what times? > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > Hi Mal, I generally start looking around 23:00 UTC when I get home from work and depending on how tired I am, it may go until 04:00 UTC or bedtime for me. I'm using Argo set for QRSS30 and SLOW allowing me to get the whole TA "window" in the screen. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1A2W-0001Yp-AM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1A2W-0001YR-2n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1A2R-0006cQ-6s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1A2Q-0006cH-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:50 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1Ag1-0001Xv-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:00:47 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0NM2NF6021209 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:02:24 -0500 Received: from server (dial-228.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.228]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0NM4tUE029130 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:04:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02b201c62068$4e6b99c0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c61f51$1782d4e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> <001501c61f55$fd6b80c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <029301c61fc5$2692a180$0b01a8c0@server> <003d01c61fca$dc61f560$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:12 AM Subject: LF: Re: XNS as seen @ VE3EAR > JB > > Thanks for the capture. Looks like you've got your receiving setup > working well. Was interested to see you received TA activity last week. > > Jay, W1VD > Hi Jay, LFers, Thanks for your comments. I'm quite pleased with my receive setup and attribute my success chiefly to the big loop antenna. It's composed of a number of features that I "borrowed" from others here on the list, but I put some of my own ideas into it as well. The balanced and shielded pickup loop located 6 inches inside of the main loop windings plays a big role, along with my two stage preamp located right at the antenna. Mind you, a quiet rural QTH has to be concidered as well. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1AH4-00085f-UZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1AH4-00084G-Ol for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1AGm-0006nV-Iq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1AGm-0006nM-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:40 +0000 Received: from web25414.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.176.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1BX7-0001kJ-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:55:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 89444 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2006 22:34:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GOHalGWLTNM15F2KIkfKV5yAbdNp0aUAEVQR9Jo6sJahHPXor+s5zSRhf3ank2QsX3h8chx+QBlij37wJ0Gs6P5lVnMSnd80BNVdLx1bnbxmN0jJejk1mn1AV/tsUmiBeAjqbJtzNpWs4WXuCKoeEFH8rm1PQlfy5bhYYR38WRI= ; Message-ID: <20060123223422.89442.qmail@web25414.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25414.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:22 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:22 +0000 (GMT) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001a01c61f79$e346a700$0600a8c0@router> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ? 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Hi Uwe - I would go along with what Jim says - ie if you have the space, put up some kind of vertical (T or inverted L).
 
I've never had much room for a decent LF antenna - I started off by erecting an inverted-L but since moving house I cannot even do that (small garden, bungalow, and in a conservation area !!! - not a good formula for big aerials......). I have managed to string up a modest loop  - 9.5m long by 3.5m at 1.5m from the ground (that's so small it does not even get onto Alan's spreadsheet !!). However, it does seem to put out a signal of sorts - best Dx is 600 km using 150 watts QRSS3.
 
The loop wire (single turn) is satellite coax cable - the type with the copper foil outer conductor. It has a dc resistance of half an ohm and total rf resistance of just under one ohm. RF current is about 13 amps. I match it to 50 ohms using an L-match (switched fixed capacitors for coarse tuning an d a small variometer for fine tuning).
As Jim says, the capacitors have to cope with quite high voltages and take all the current (I use several in parallel).
 
One major problem with a fixed loop is that, like a dipole, it is directional (two nulls). On the plus side - earth stakes are not needed and there is little risk of those nasty RF burns!!
 
Best of luck with whatever antenna you use - Brian 
 

Uwe Wensauer <uwe.wensauer@gmx.de> wrote:
To all ,
 
I would like to built a Tx antenne but with linited space I need at least a bulky 4 mh and variometer.
 
So I wonder if I could not use a loop antenna ( 20x 10m ) ? So I would not need such big coils ?
 
( high voltage vs. high current )
 
73, Uwe, DK1KQ
 

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1BFk-0004GC-O5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1BFk-0004Fa-Gh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1BF9-00071U-BL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1BF9-00071L-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:03 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1CVX-0002K2-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:58:19 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0NNWJoX013892 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:19 -0500 Received: from server (dial-73.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.73]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0NNYlKd028828 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:34:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <030001c62074$cf3b4120$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D55183.9929.1D10579@localhost> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:28:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Early evening TA capture Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050306020100050006020407" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050306020100050006020407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LFers, Here's a small capture of a TA signal as received here at EN93dr at about 23:15 UTC. 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2006 23:49:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1BR4-0000OZ-2H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:49:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1BR3-0000Nt-PZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:49:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1BQn-00078Q-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:49:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1BQn-00078H-03 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:49:05 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1ChB-0002RI-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:10:21 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0NNfFqg019969 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:41:15 -0500 Received: from server (dial-73.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.73]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0NNhkKd007081 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:43:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <030f01c62076$0d482720$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060123223422.89442.qmail@web25414.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:37:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello Brian,
 
If you would take the time to give me some more details of your matching
unit as described below, I would greatly appreciate it.  You can send it to
me directly rather than thru the reflector at this address:
 
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
EN93dr
---- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Tee- Ant. vs Loop ?
 
The loop wire (single turn) is satellite coax cable - the type with the copper foil outer conductor. It has a dc resistance of half an ohm and total rf resistance of just under one ohm. RF current is about 13 amps. I match  to 50 ohms using an L-match (switched fixed capacitors for coarse tuning and a small variometer for fine tuning).
 
Best of luck with whatever antenna you use - Brian 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:59:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1J5k-0008G4-M4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:59:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1J5k-0008FD-Gi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:59:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1J4x-0008MK-5k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:59:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1J4w-0008MB-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:59:02 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1Jii-0004ul-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:40:11 +0000 Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124075853.TCCS15755.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:58:53 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124075853.VETJ29891.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:58:53 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:58:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D5DE31.21977.3F68C8E@localhost> In-reply-to: <030001c62074$cf3b4120$0b01a8c0@server> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: Early evening TA capture Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > Here's a small capture of a TA signal as received here at EN93dr > at about 23:15 UTC. I'm 0.6 Hz. high in displayed frequency so > it's likely CT1DRP at 136.318 kHz. > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Yes, CT1DRP's call can clearly be read from your capture. If you still have the original pic, can you check for my QRSS sig which will was 0.3Hz below the lowest element of CT1DRP's signal (ie just off your cropped pic). By coincidence (?) I was transmitting in the timeslot between his callsigns. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:52:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1JuR-0004yi-GQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:52:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1JuR-0004yZ-92 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:52:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1JuB-00006l-8k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:51:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1JuA-00006c-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:51:58 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1LAi-0007sb-PX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:13:23 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-37-82-253-55-131.adsl.proxad.net [82.253.55.131]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 23DCE44058 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:51:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001501c620c3$65c775c0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060123223422.89442.qmail@web25414.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <030f01c62076$0d482720$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:51:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: XES,XKO,NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello all on the list !
This last night, very good copy of the beacons of the American continent!
00:00 to 01:30 : XKO,XES
02:30 to 03:30 : XKO,XES,NA
02:00 to 07:30 : NA
  73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Kt5-0007D8-8e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Kt5-0007BT-2m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1KsG-0000MY-64 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1KsF-0000MP-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:03 +0000 Received: from smtpout0146.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.146] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1M8o-0000Ji-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:15:29 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.204.151) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C15203001BA84F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:51:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c620cb$ca9a5640$97ccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:51:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Visible early this morning.
 
VO1NA very strong at times with some fading
 
XES fairly steady consistant signal throughout but some fading at times and visible O copy still at 0900z this morning.
 
XKO visible at times with lots of fade.
 
There were traces of other acty but unable to identify.
 
The best signals appear at this QTH after 0600z until fadeout at 0900z, the other time for peak visibility is around 0100 - 0200z approx but never as strong as late morning. All other times during the night the signals seem to fade out with the odd very weak appearance.
Antenna is use for these observations my vertical system.
 24/1/06
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Kt4-0004kS-4L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Kt3-0004h4-Tw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:54:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1KsB-0000ML-HY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:53:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1KsA-0000MC-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:53:59 +0000 Received: from smtpout0146.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.146] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1LVw-0005gW-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:35:08 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.204.151) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C15203001BA84C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:51:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c620cb$c92a99a0$97ccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <677995103.20060123165143@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:11:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:51 PM Subject: LF: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd > Captured VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS. Surprisingly I did not see any trace of XNS all the others I did see and some of them vy strong especially around 0700z My system was set at capture every 15 mins so XNS could have popped up during the interval period. de Mal/G3KEV > > Captures 21:50-07:45 UTC can be seen here: > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm > > > > 73 > > Hartmut > > Locator:JO52ho > www.h-wolff.de > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:33:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1MQm-0003b2-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:33:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1MQm-0003ag-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:33:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1MPz-0000om-Mg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:32:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1MPy-0000od-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:32:58 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1N3p-0007Hi-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:14:11 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060124113249m1300rbup6e>; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:32:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c620d9$e78234e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:32:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static conditions. Signals strong early then faded during the overnight. Captures of CT1DRP and G3XDV at: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:46 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1MRi-0004Df-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1MRh-0004DR-S4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:45 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1MRX-0000qZ-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1MRW-0000qP-Ui for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:34:35 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1N5N-0007Iz-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:15:48 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060124113343m12008l77ae>; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:33:48 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c620da$0aee8140$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <677995103.20060123165143@t-online.de> <000c01c620cb$c92a99a0$97ccfc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:33:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mal WD2XNS was off the air last to allow TA reception. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hartmut Wolff" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:51 PM > Subject: LF: TA Jan, 22nd/23rd > > > > Captured VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and WD2XNS. > > Surprisingly I did not see any trace of XNS all the others I did see and > some of them vy strong especially around 0700z > My system was set at capture every 15 mins so XNS could have popped up > during the interval period. > de Mal/G3KEV > > > > Captures 21:50-07:45 UTC can be seen here: > > > > http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > Hartmut > > > > Locator:JO52ho > > www.h-wolff.de > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Mzc-0007bt-D0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Mzc-0007Ye-38 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1Mz5-00015W-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1Mz4-00015N-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:14 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1OFa-00032z-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:30:42 +0000 Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124120501.CTEC15755.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:05:01 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124120501.ELUY23006.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:05:01 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:04:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D617C9.17630.4D786B3@localhost> In-reply-to: <001c01c620d9$e78234e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > Low static conditions. Signals strong early then faded during the > overnight. Captures of CT1DRP and G3XDV at: > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > Jay, W1VD Jay, Many thanks for monitoring. This is my first report from W (previous confirmed sighting was by VE1ZJ) and the best one-way DX so far. Obviously, recent antenna improvements have paid off. 73 Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:40:15 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1NT2-00026h-RL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:40:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1NT2-000233-Eo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:40:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1NSP-0001I5-QH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:39:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1NSP-0001Hw-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:39:33 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1O6G-0008BS-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:20:47 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060124123846m12008kejke>; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:38:46 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c620e3$1dffb480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D617C9.17630.4D786B3@localhost> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:38:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mike Glad to be your first W reception and best DX. While CT1DRP was strong early his signal was noticeably weaker the rest of the night. On a better night your signal would have painted solid white lines. What are you running for power and antenna? Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:04 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 > > Low static conditions. Signals strong early then faded during the > > overnight. Captures of CT1DRP and G3XDV at: > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD > > Jay, > > Many thanks for monitoring. This is my first report from W (previous > confirmed sighting was by VE1ZJ) and the best one-way DX so far. > Obviously, recent antenna improvements have paid off. > > 73 > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:56:18 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Nib-00048F-D1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Nib-00047V-2h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1NiL-0001Qi-W6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:56:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1NiL-0001QZ-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:56:01 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1Oyw-0003RE-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:17:30 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0OCqAYB008026 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:52:10 -0500 Received: from server (dial-146.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.146]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0OCshfA018609 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:54:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <035b01c620e4$58115100$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D5DE31.21977.3F68C8E@localhost> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:47:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: Early evening TA capture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Early evening TA capture > Yes, CT1DRP's call can clearly be read from your capture. If you > still have the original pic, can you check for my QRSS sig which will > was 0.3Hz below the lowest element of CT1DRP's signal (ie just off > your cropped pic). By coincidence (?) I was transmitting in the > timeslot between his callsigns. > > Mike, G3XDV Hi Mike, I'm sorry to report that I saw no sign of your signals in the original pix, even after you told me where to look. I've only seen G stations once so far, but DRP seems to appear pretty much every night. No doubt the path is different, with him being quite a bit south of you, so maybe it's going to require a bit of patience. I'll continue to watch for you! 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:34:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1PFc-0007eq-SO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:34:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1PFc-0007eG-Mb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:34:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1PEf-0001rC-Ln for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:33:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1PEf-0001r3-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:33:29 +0000 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1PsZ-00008K-VU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:14:46 +0000 Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124143321.IIXX8724.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:33:21 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060124143321.BCUT1154.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:33:21 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:33:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D63AA4.25701.55FA7A3@localhost> In-reply-to: <001101c620e3$1dffb480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > Glad to be your first W reception and best DX. While CT1DRP was strong > early his signal was noticeably weaker the rest of the night. On a > better night your signal would have painted solid white lines. > What are you running for power and antenna? > Jay, W1VD I am running about 200-250mW ERP. Tx is a Decca currently at 500W output. The ant is an inverted-L Marconi with 16m vertical and three 18m horizontal wires in parallel 1m apart (short garden). About 70% of the inductive loading is at the top of the vertical section and the other 30% at the bottom. I have recently tidied up the three top wires so they are neater and better engineered, giving me more top capacitance, allowing me to reduce the bottom loading and gaining more current (2.5A now). Both loading coils (and a small variometer for tuning) are wound with Litz wire. Earthing is four 1m stakes. See http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/antenna.htm for a drawing of the antenna set-up. There is scope for increasing the Tx output and slightly increasing the spacing of the top wires. I estimate I could eventually approach 500mW ERP before I run out of ideas, but that will take some time. I estimate the distance between us as 5433km - my locator is IO91VT. Thanks, again. 73 de Mike, G3XDV =============== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:49:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1RMO-00053L-Gn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:49:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1RMO-00052z-Bo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:49:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1RLR-0002Ni-Ri for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:48:37 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1RLR-0002NZ-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:48:37 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1RzO-0001KJ-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:29:57 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F1RKP-0003mj-00; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:47:33 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bM9SsEZB8e4CIv7aAXskVN1QR9gsNEeijGBy2jwznz+b76zzux0Q4r@[84.133.92.30]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F1RKK-0tq1k80; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:47:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:47:25 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <499688984.20060124174725@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bM9SsEZB8e4CIv7aAXskVN1QR9gsNEeijGBy2jwznz+b76zzux0Q4r X-TOI-MSGID: 85393d4f-f961-4a9c-8b94-c956483a0a42 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 23rd/24th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Very impressive QRSS20 signal from Joe, VO1NA last night about 02:00-07:40. Under these conditions a much faster signal would have been copied. Signal was very good on a QRSS3 screen. Good peaks of WD2XES and WD2XKO. Last traces of WD2XES visible here about 09:30. Local sunrise here is 07:10. >From WD2XGJ a steady carrier was visible about 21:20-03:00. Than changed mode to QRSS30/60. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:01:22 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1RXl-0001T4-C7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:01:22 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1RXk-0001Mv-Uy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:01:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1RXG-0002Vb-2w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:00:50 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1RXF-0002VS-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:00:49 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1SBC-0001QB-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:42:09 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060124165957m1400o2ljse>; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:00:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c62109$f436eb60$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43D63AA4.25701.55FA7A3@localhost> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:16:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Mike
 
Thanks for the description.
 
>I estimate I could eventually approach
>500mW ERP before I run out of ideas, but that will take some time.
 
I find that running out of ideas for improvements is not the problem...it's the implementation that eventually grinds progress to a halt ;~)
 
Will remain on the lookout for XDV.
 
Jay, W1VD
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 24 JAN 06

> Glad to be your first W reception and best DX. While CT1DRP was strong
> early his signal was noticeably weaker the rest of the night. On a
> better night your signal would have painted solid white lines.
> What are you running for power and antenna?
> Jay, W1VD

I am running about 200-250mW ERP. Tx is a Decca currently at 500W
output. The ant is an inverted-L Marconi with 16m vertical and three
18m horizontal wires in parallel 1m apart (short garden). About 70%
of the inductive loading is at the top of the vertical section and
the other 30% at the bottom. I have recently tidied up the three top
wires so they are neater and better engineered, giving me more top
capacitance, allowing me to reduce the bottom loading and gaining
more current (2.5A now). Both loading coils (and a small variometer
for tuning) are wound with Litz wire. Earthing is four 1m stakes. See
http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk/antenna.htm for a drawing of the
antenna set-up.

There is scope for increasing the Tx output and slightly increasing
the spacing of the top wires. I estimate I could eventually approach
500mW ERP before I run out of ideas, but that will take some time.

I estimate the distance between us as 5433km - my locator is IO91VT.

Thanks, again.

73 de Mike, G3XDV
===============

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:35:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Vp8-0008Tz-8Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:35:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Vp7-0008TT-Sj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1VoG-0003Zg-96 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:34:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1VoF-0003ZU-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:34:39 +0000 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1WSK-0002wv-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:16:05 +0000 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F1VnF-0000x7-03; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:33:37 +0100 Received: from HW1 (rXLvgOZbweEIBEd+EI5sv5d0OuGOgKvAH6C4cAr5vwsOpjwUshyHk4@[84.133.92.30]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F1Vn1-0JkUme0; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:33:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:33:22 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <692546256.20060124223322@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rXLvgOZbweEIBEd+EI5sv5d0OuGOgKvAH6C4cAr5vwsOpjwUshyHk4 X-TOI-MSGID: 279a6ff1-6a5c-45cb-ae0a-5cc57de2a8d8 Subject: LF: Early T/A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA strong since about 19:20 and traces on the WD2XGJ frequency since about 20:00 UTC. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:41:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Vum-0008Sy-Ct for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:41:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1Vum-0008OX-7W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:41:24 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1VuL-0003iV-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:40:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1VuK-0003iM-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1XB3-0000PD-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:02:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 39338 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2006 21:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.75.114?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.75.114 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2006 21:40:39 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.22/238]); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:40:05 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c6212e$bd4a1940$724b8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:40:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: early T/A 24th January Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear LF Group,
 
Very good signal from VO1NA coming in here at the moment (2130utc) - has been "O" copy since at least 2000utc. Also, XGJ is starting to appear.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1WTt-00052D-6d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1WTt-00050s-2a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1WTW-0003vC-0g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1WTV-0003v3-Lz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:17 +0000 Received: from cupids.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1XkG-0000uD-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:38:55 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by cupids.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0OMFpRW019580 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:45:51 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0OMFpDE029773 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:45:51 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0OMFoMT028777; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:45:50 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:45:50 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001401c6212e$bd4a1940$724b8351@w4o8m9> Message-ID: References: <001401c6212e$bd4a1940$724b8351@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: early T/A 24th January Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim, Hartmut and Group, I've been tinkering around in the shed and managed to get the aerial current up to 1.1 amps, hence the recent "fade". 73 Joe On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > > Very good signal from VO1NA coming in here at the moment (2130utc) - has been "O" copy since at least 2000utc. Also, XGJ is starting to appear. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:38:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1aYZ-0005GZ-0d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:38:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1aYY-0005GK-Qw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:38:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1aXu-0004v2-7y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:38:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1aXt-0004ut-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:38:05 +0000 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 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Hello all on the list !
This last night, very good copy of the beacons of the American continent!
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dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:00:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1gVb-0000DU-5j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:00:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1gVb-00006S-00 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:00:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1gVH-0006YG-6B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1gVG-0006Y7-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout0187.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.187] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1h9Z-0007Jo-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:41:26 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.7) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C15203001DBEAF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c6218d$a9b2a3c0$07e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
The only acty seen last night was VO1NA as early as 2120z with a good strong signal, only one call sent, think he went QRT or else there was a very sudden fade out.
XKO was strong briefly at 0730z.
No other acty observed.
I was using the 80m vert loop last night. When I get time I will set each antenna up on a different monitor and observe any difference on the same received signal, or set up a space diversity system using both antennas.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:17:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1iel-0002yg-4Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:17:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1iek-0002xN-Vj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:17:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1ido-0007C9-0Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:16:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1idm-0007C0-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:16:42 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1jI7-0000hC-1a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:58:25 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060125111553m1400o2j0le>; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c621a0$b4552240$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:15:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 25 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static but weaker signals from CT1DRP. No other signals noted. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:35:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1jrX-0001Iq-33 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:35:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1jrW-000168-Ua for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:34:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1jqI-0007XL-30 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:33:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1jqH-0007XC-Ne for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:33:41 +0000 Received: from mx1.mail.ru ([194.67.23.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1l7F-0002Al-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:55:33 +0000 Received: from [84.42.60.76] (port=1033 helo=mail.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1F1jpt-0005RK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:33:20 +0300 Message-ID: <43D77053.3020502@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:34:27 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43CD6562.3040204@mail.ru> <1539861193.20060120211148@t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim,  Hartmut
thanks for report .

Oleg  will be again on band  27/01 from 19z, dfcw20-30
rx mode- qrss 20-30

Dmitri
RA3YO


Hartmut Wolff wrote:
Information from RX9BS : 13 jan  was poor propagation to Eu.
Oleg will be activity 20-21 jan   from 19z.
 dfcw10-20,  frequency  about 137774  
RX 5-10 HZ down
    

Since 19:00 UTC I see traces on 137772.55/137773.55

73

Hartmut

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:16:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1kVl-00022D-TT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:16:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1kVl-00021c-IL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:16:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1kVD-0007nW-Rt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:15:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1kVD-0007nN-84 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:15:59 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1l9Z-0001rn-BQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25456 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1kTs-0004fC-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:14:37 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:14:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070608010800010107000001" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070608010800010107000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, After tinkering with the waterfall color palette of SpecLab for some time, I have asked Harmut for his settings. 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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1kWy-0007p8-Gt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:17:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1kWx-0007oy-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:17:47 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1lBM-0001t0-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:59:33 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25457 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1kWu-00055V-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:17:46 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c621b1$b8469800$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:17:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 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v2.00) id 1F1lRo-00032g-54 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1lQV-0008D7-3R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:15:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1lQU-0008Cy-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:15:10 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1m4s-0002IR-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:56:57 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <200601251415000110098n7ge>; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:15:01 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c621bc$13576260$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:31:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: WWVB Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Stumbled across these spawar WWVB pre upgrade papers - presumably the info was used for the upgrades during the late 90's. Perhaps these papers are well known to others but it's the first time I've run across them. Interesting reading...
 
WWVB Antenna and Antenna Tuning System:
 
 
WWVB Baseline Measurements: Summary, Findings and Recommendations
 
 
Jay, W1VD
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:45:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1ltM-000867-57 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:45:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1ltL-00081F-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:45:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1lsi-0008Q0-Va for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:44:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1lsi-0008Pr-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:44:20 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1n9j-0003Ym-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:06:14 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25524 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1lsS-000Gyc-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:44:04 +0000 Message-ID: <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:44:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Jim, LF group, Many thanks for your comments on my local noise report. >> So one would expect predominantly "magnetic" noise from mains wiring. << That is what I thought as well. However, tests with a battery operated SPM-3 SLM, showed that local noise on an outdoor E-field antenna is substantial less than on a magnetic field antenna. I have also been testing this the other way round: reception of the carrier of DCF-39 and semi-local NDB's. Mounting a mini-whip on a bamboo pole and putting it outside an upstairs window, the signal of DCF-39 increases 22 dB. Whilst holding a talk for the local ARC in a concrete buiding, the same test was performed on 399.5 kHz. The difference was as high as 40 dB. One could reason that the same attenuation level applies for propagation of indoor electric fields to the outside world. So far my guess is that this explains the low local noise level on my E-field antenna, though it is mounted only 5 metre from the house. As we all know, magnetic field antennas, e.g. loops, do receive very well indoors. Thus the same reasoning applies for propagation of local noise in the magnetic field to the outside world: little if any attenuationa at all. It should be nice if someone else could also perform these tests. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:24:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1mVl-0005ck-91 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:24:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1mVl-0005Zh-4U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:24:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1mUx-0000Bl-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:23:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1mUx-0000Bc-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:23:51 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1nly-0003zJ-UF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:45:46 +0000 Received: from holywell.demon.co.uk ([80.177.210.169]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1F1mUh-000DvP-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:23:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:23:12 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Les Thompson References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <003001c621b1$b8469800$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <003001c621b1$b8469800$2101a8c0@pcroelof> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.05-U () Subject: Re: LF: TA 25 JAN 06 XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In article <003001c621b1$b8469800$2101a8c0@pcroelof>, Roelof Bakker writes >Hello all, > >Oops, my previous mail was dated a day ahead! > >This is the capture of WD2XGJ. > >Best regards, >Roelof >========================================================= >From: Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt >Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E > >Receiver: >Tuneable pre-amp, SPM-30 with 20 Hz filter >home made pitch shifter, 12 & 6 Hz active audio filters > >Aerial: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip-half pint (actual size: build in half a film >canister) mounted 5 metre high in a Magnolia tree >========================================================== Hello Roelof Could you please send me the information on your Mini-Whip. -- Les G8ARF / G3VYZ / RSARS 173 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:37:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1oaA-000297-OO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:37:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1oaA-00027X-Cp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:37:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1oZ8-0000rt-Ao for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:36:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1oZ7-0000rk-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:36:17 +0000 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1pDa-0003xi-OV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:18:08 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-149-231.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.149.231] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0PHbTOH021124 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:37:31 GMT Message-ID: <003c01c621d5$cb032750$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:33:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: Noise_levels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Yes, Roelof, have observed this noise pattern quite often, also seen on MW. No idea of the cause. Walter G3JKV. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO > Hello all, > > After tinkering with the waterfall color palette of SpecLab for some time, > I > have asked Harmut for his settings. (contrast at maximum, brightness > adjusted accordingly). This has paid off. > > I had O-copy of WD2XGJ, WD2XKO and VO1NA on QRSS60. The best copy was in > the > hours before sunrise. > > Looking at my overnight SpecLab captures, there appeared to be a > substantial > difference in background noise. It was much stronger from 02:00 - 05:00 > and > from 06:00 - 06:30 UTC. Have other listeners observed this also? > At the time a massive thunderstorm was lurking over the Mediterranean. > Could > this have caused the increase in band noise? > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1oye-0004KN-VQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1oye-0004IO-Lh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1oyA-00014s-J2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1oyA-00014j-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:10 +0000 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1qFC-0005vR-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:24:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 6558 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2006 18:01:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.5.104 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2006 18:01:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:09:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, I suspect that the differences you see compared with others depends very greatly on your environment. I think you mentioned a "concrete wall" This means to me probably reinforced with a considerable amount of steel rods, possible foil moisture membranes. This kind of structure would keep signals out and also keep the magnetic interference in. There is no doubt that moving the antenna away for local noise by even small separations (near field drops off by the fourth power of distance, I believe) improves the signal to noise ratio. Indoor loops do work I get good signals from the States and Canada on a 1.2m indoor loop. I can often get better S/N than on a large outdoor Marconi. However I have minimal magnetic interference around my house and it is of brick construction with no intervening metallic screening. My worst interference is from next door neighbour's TV, and dimmers. My loop is 6m away from my PCs which makes a big difference. What is often not appeciated about voltage probe antennas is that the output signal voltage is dependent upon the height above ground, and is just the field strength (say uV /m) multiplied by the effective height (m), which in your case is the actual height. They can be very disappointing if mounted near ground level. On the other hand at 17m and away from buildings, they can be spectacularly good. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Roelof Bakker To: Sent: 25 January 2006 14:44 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise > Hello Jim, LF group, > > Many thanks for your comments on my local noise report. > > >> So one would expect predominantly "magnetic" noise from mains wiring. << > > That is what I thought as well. However, tests with a battery operated SPM-3 > SLM, showed that local noise on an outdoor E-field antenna is substantial > less than on a magnetic field antenna. > > I have also been testing this the other way round: reception of the carrier > of DCF-39 and semi-local NDB's. Mounting a mini-whip on a bamboo pole and > putting it outside an upstairs window, the signal of DCF-39 increases 22 dB. > Whilst holding a talk for the local ARC in a concrete buiding, the same test > was performed on 399.5 kHz. The difference was as high as 40 dB. One could > reason that the same attenuation level applies for propagation of indoor > electric fields to the outside world. So far my guess is that this explains > the low local noise level on my E-field antenna, though it is mounted only 5 > metre from the house. > > As we all know, magnetic field antennas, e.g. loops, do receive very well > indoors. Thus the same reasoning applies for propagation of local noise in > the magnetic field to the outside world: little if any attenuationa at all. > > It should be nice if someone else could also perform these tests. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:21:48 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pH6-0003Ym-Pb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:21:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pH6-0003YE-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:21:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pGo-0001EB-4H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:21:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pGm-0001E2-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:21:24 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc13.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1pvF-0004C9-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:03:16 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060125182032m1300n6kgve>; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:20:37 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:20:29 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Roelof Bakker" Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:20:29 +0000 Message-Id: <012520061820.21493.43D7C16D0003CD81000053F522064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 25 JAN 06 XGJ X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Roelof, Thanks for the capture. The conditions and your receiving system must be quite good since I am operating with reduced power and the antenna is not quite resonant. Did you use the Mini-whip for this reception? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Roelof Bakker" > Hello all, > > Oops, my previous mail was dated a day ahead! > > This is the capture of WD2XGJ. > > Best regards, > Roelof > ========================================================= > From: Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E > > Receiver: > Tuneable pre-amp, SPM-30 with 20 Hz filter > home made pitch shifter, 12 & 6 Hz active audio filters > > Aerial: pa0rdt-Mini-Whip-half pint (actual size: build in half a film > canister) mounted 5 metre high in a Magnolia tree ========================================================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:42 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pIy-0007RO-ST for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pIy-0007Pm-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pIq-0001Go-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pIp-0001Gf-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:31 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc13.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1qZp-00065r-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:45:29 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060125182305m1300n2bm5e>; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:01 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:23:01 +0000 Message-Id: <012520061823.26620.43D7C2050003CC0B000067FC22064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ [2] X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Jean-Pierre, Thank you for the very good capture XGJ. It is all the more impressive because XGJ is running low power at the present time. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jean-Pierre Méré > Hello all on the list ! > This last night, very good copy of the beacons of the American continent! > 06:00 to 06:30 : NA,XKO,XGJ > Screenshot attached > > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj JN06ht From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pSu-0003ST-5x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pSt-0003S0-Nn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pSe-0001SY-2F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1pSd-0001SP-Lw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:39 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1q78-0004Gp-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:15:31 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25581 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1pSb-000OKP-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:33:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c621dd$d94514b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <012520061820.21493.43D7C16D0003CD81000053F522064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:33:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: TA 25 JAN 06 XGJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Warren, Yes I did. Testing this antenna, I am using not the usual A/B approach. It is not my intention to find the best possible receive antenna for 137 kHz. If so, I should try an EWE or a K9AY. However your experimental transmissions are a great opportunity to find out how the mini-whip performs on 137 kHz. I have extensively tested it in the NDB band and overall performance has been a big surprise. Thus my motto is: stick to it and see what happens! 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pi7-0003s4-7q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1pi7-0003ma-0X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1phU-0001cE-06 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:49:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1phT-0001c5-KR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:48:59 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1qyY-0006KO-4l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:10:57 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25582 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1phD-000OvI-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:48:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:48:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Alan, LF group, Thank you for your comments. I am actually living in a house with brick walls and wooden floors. One of the tests I did was on the second floor of a large concrete community building. >> What is often not appeciated about voltage probe antennas is that the >> output signal voltage is dependent upon the height above ground << I have performed some height test as well and found the following figures: height rel. dB ================= 1.2 m / 4 ft 0 dB 2.4 m / 8 ft + 4 dB 3.6 m / 12 ft + 6 dB 4.8 m / 16 ft + 8 dB Shielding by bushes in my garden has also been noted. I had to raise it above these to restore a good s/n ratio. On the other hand, at an open field near a lake it worked first class 2 metre high and raising it improved signal strength but not the signal to noise ratio. I have a 0.7 metre tunable loop hanging on the wall. One of these days I will try it on 137 kHz indoor. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1qKc-0007SN-6Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1qKc-0007Q2-0d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1qKH-0001zT-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1qKG-0001zK-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:04 +0000 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1rbJ-0006gv-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:51:03 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F1qJ0-00058H-00; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:27:46 +0100 Received: from HW1 (r23CD+ZLQexZybyws5ebdedkuGSNMEpm6tT73mcRx4J6hLtJHXbr4J@[84.133.124.29]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F1qIt-226IXA0; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:27:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:27:38 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <74248070.20060125202738@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r23CD+ZLQexZybyws5ebdedkuGSNMEpm6tT73mcRx4J6hLtJHXbr4J X-TOI-MSGID: 6b8b1084-f5c3-4f88-814d-047ec9ce1170 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 24/25th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured VO1NA, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:07:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1tja-0005DU-46 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:07:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1tjZ-0005CY-P9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:07:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1tia-00032b-7P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:06:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1tiZ-00032S-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:06:23 +0000 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1uN8-0006rZ-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:48:21 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-13-44.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.13.44] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1F1tiV-0007YO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:06:19 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c62206$623f46a0$0200a8c0@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:23:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Roelof You said: >One of the tests I did was on the second floor of a large concrete community > building. > I have performed some height test as well and found the following figures: > > height rel. dB > ================= > 1.2 m / 4 ft 0 dB > 2.4 m / 8 ft + 4 dB > 3.6 m / 12 ft + 6 dB > 4.8 m / 16 ft + 8 dB > > Shielding by bushes in my garden has also been noted. I had to raise it > above these to restore a good s/n ratio. On the other hand, at an open field > near a lake it worked first class 2 metre high and raising it improved > signal strength but not the signal to noise ratio. > These results are in line with tests done by G3GRO a couple of years ago with a short electrostatic whip antenna. I have the amplifier and coax voltage supply board for a electrostatic antenna used at the Decca transmitter sites. The original antenna was a copper cylinder fixed only a metre or so above ground. I am not sure what they were used for - I guess Walter would know. Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1xAt-0007lQ-JP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F1xAt-0007lC-F9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:51 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F1xAO-00048e-0i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:20 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F1xAN-00048V-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:19 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F1xp1-0008Ev-RE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:29:21 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060126024708m1300n7v0ge>; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:09 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:07 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:47:07 +0000 Message-Id: <012620060247.19550.43D8382B0007D77600004C5E22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: SAQ Transmissions Feb 19 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I just a posting on the LWCA Bulletin Board that SAQ will be on Feb 19, the posting copied below: " SAQ 17.2KHz on 0900 & 1300 UTC Sunday, February 19, 2006. Each transmission will be about a half-hour in length. Remember to convert UTC correctly to your own time so you don't miss the transmission. SAQ is the world's only remaining operational Alexanderson Alternator Transmitter and this will be a great opportunity to try your luck receiving them in optimum wintertime conditions for VLF!" -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:52 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F23CQ-0001cs-KA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F23CQ-0001cT-5U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F23Bh-00062k-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F23Bg-00062b-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:04 +0000 Received: from smtpout0157.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.157] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F24Sz-0006eV-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:35:16 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.6) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54FAD001A0A12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:12:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c62258$a84505c0$06e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:12:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Stns observed during the night. VO1NA, XKO and XES.
XKO strongest sig last nite and vy good around 0800z, XES not as strong as usual and VO1NA only visible at times but a good signal when he popped up. There were a couple of others that I could not make out *MJ
My observations indicate that the best time for TR to my QTH is late morning 0700 - 0900z other time is 0001 - 0200z approx and little or no propagation  the rest of the time during night time.  ie my sunrise seems best and sunset at the USA end. This is the RX situation at my end, TX could be different from here. I am surprised that there is no propagation during the majority of the dark hours at both ends.
What does Alan think about that.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:06:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2417-0006qC-At for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:06:13 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2417-0006p3-4W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:06:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F240o-0006MY-D3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:05:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F240o-0006MP-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:05:54 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F25I6-0007SY-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:28:06 +0000 Received: from 88-106-194-16.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.194.16]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2006 10:05:14 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAJso2EOHQCg Received: from 88-106-194-16.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.194.16]:2337 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F2408-0009Km-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:05:13 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:05:18 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, You wrote :- Looking at my overnight SpecLab captures, there appeared to be a substantial difference in background noise. It was much stronger from 02:00 - 05:00 and from 06:00 - 06:30 UTC. Have other listeners observed this also? Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt **************************** I also get this effect & when I contacted Wolf about it this is the advice he offered, not a cure but possibly an improvement in reducing the effect by changing the following settings/values. On the top menu bar click "View/Windows" then "Spectrum Lab components" & you will get a block diagram, look for box with ? in it on a connection between L4 & L5 (next to a green triangle), click this box & point at "Automatic Gain Control" at the bottom of the list, choosing/setting different values may help the situation. Wolf said this is not a visual gain control like those in Argo & Spectran so may only have a minimal effect, tried it & believe it did help. The problem with visual AGC is that it not only reduces the level of visual noise on the display it also reduces the displayed signal. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:23:52 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F25EG-0000cI-3G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:23:52 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F25EF-0000bY-Q5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:23:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F25De-0006q2-HC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:23:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F25De-0006pt-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:23:14 +0000 Received: from natsluvver.rzone.de ([81.169.145.176]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F26Uy-0008A1-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:45:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p54867CC5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.124.197]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0QBMlfJ029408 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:22:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <43D8B117.6010603@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:23:03 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c62258$a84505c0$06e8fc3e@l8p8y6> In-Reply-To: <000c01c62258$a84505c0$06e8fc3e@l8p8y6> Subject: Re: LF: TR Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000107050600060904040105" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000107050600060904040105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mal, interesting observations. Here I usual have a stronger fade-in period (1-2 hours), followed by a deeper fade. Then signals recover depending on the K-index of the last days. If the K-index was higher more fading is visible. Before the stronger fade-out period starts there appeared a deeper fade. Attached a screenshot taken last night. It seems John, WD2XES was a bit late and missed the good overnight period. I'll upload more captures later the day to my website when back home from work. 73 Hartmut hamilton mal schrieb: > Hi All > Stns observed during the night. VO1NA, XKO and XES. > XKO strongest sig last nite and vy good around 0800z, XES not as strong as usual and VO1NA only visible at times but a good signal when he popped up. There were a couple of others that I could not make out *MJ > My observations indicate that the best time for TR to my QTH is late morning 0700 - 0900z other time is 0001 - 0200z approx and little or no propagation the rest of the time during night time. ie my sunrise seems best and sunset at the USA end. This is the RX situation at my end, TX could be different from here. 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smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F26Vv-0002Gy-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:46:12 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out2.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0QC05c0014093 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:00:05 -0500 Received: from server (dial177-ripley2.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.149.177]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0QBxhdE009064 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:59:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004201c62270$16954280$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <012620060247.19550.43D8382B0007D77600004C5E22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:59:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: TA best yet Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080104000406060302030901" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080104000406060302030901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LFers, The TA path to EN93dr was the best yet, with a full screen width copy of CT1DRP. 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No captures since XNS was in transmit mode last night... Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F26h4-0004iM-CX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F26h4-0004hx-2M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F26gu-0007h3-Cs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F26gt-0007gu-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:32 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F27Lj-0002Z2-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:39:47 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006012612572101200n2ufle>; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c62278$0b926040$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <012620060247.19550.43D8382B0007D77600004C5E22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <004201c62270$16954280$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:57:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: TA best yet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) J.B. Nice capture! Brian was in continuous transmit mode last night which helps take advantage of any good periods of propagation. I usually check the DF6NM grabber to see what activity is present in the TA window (bottom panel). Strong EU signals may not be readable as to the call sign but it gives a great indication of activity. The color direction finder helps identify signals that may not be readable. http://hometown.aol.de/df6nm2/ Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:59 AM Subject: LF: TA best yet > Hello LFers, > > The TA path to EN93dr was the best yet, with a full screen width copy > of CT1DRP. Unfortunately it was the only TA signal I saw, so either > he was the only one on, or the path to "G" land wasn't there. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:04:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F26nl-0002oN-BS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:04:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F26nl-0002mG-1M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:04:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F26nW-0007oL-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:04:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F26nV-0007oC-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:04:21 +0000 Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de ([81.169.145.166]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F284s-0000nj-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:26:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p54867CC5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.124.197]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0QD44Pp003776 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:04:05 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <43D8C8FB.9020704@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:04:59 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by post.webmailer.de id k0QD44Pp003776 Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof, > Looking at my overnight SpecLab captures, there appeared to be a > substantial difference in background noise. It was much stronger from > 02:00 - 05:00 and from 06:00 - 06:30 UTC. Have other listeners > observed > this also? > At the time a massive thunderstorm was lurking over the Mediterranean. > Could this have caused the increase in band noise? I'm using several K9AY loops here with a main -3 db lobe of about 145 degrees. Mainly in use for T/A on 137kHz is the antenna pointing at 310°, because with other antennas pointing more southerly the noise level is much higher, especially when there are T-storms over the Mediterranean. So I believe your higher noise level is caused by the T-storms. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F28BG-0003r0-2d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F28BF-0003qg-Tn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F28AR-0008RW-RF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F28AR-0008RN-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:07 +0000 Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F28pL-0002xE-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:14:24 +0000 Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060126143200.ZMXZ15755.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:32:00 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060126143159.OGRK11351.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:31:59 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:31:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D8DD4F.2795.1AC12A3@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: LMS wanted Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have received a letter from Harry Wodhouse, G3MFW, who did some 73kHz transmitting tests several years ago. He has caught the 136kHz bug and already has a Decca Tx and some Litz wire. He is looking for a Level Measuring Set and asks if anyone in the group has one for sale or can point him in the right direction. He is unable to use eBay. Harry is in Cornwall so he would be DX for almost all active UK and Eu stations if he can he helped to get on the air. Can anyone assist? (e-mails to me personally, rather than to the group, please). Mike, G3XDV ========== mike.dennison@ntlworld.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:31:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2A21-00004s-A5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:31:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2A20-0008SN-KA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:31:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2A1D-0000m8-7Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:30:43 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2A1C-0000lz-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:30:42 +0000 Received: from smtpout0141.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.141] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Ag9-0003tX-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:13:02 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.72) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C55445001AF010 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:30:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c62295$d6d20f40$48e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:56:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: FILTER Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Does anyone have a filter type YF122CN surplus to requirement for sale for a YAESU FT857. This rig is one of the few that is very good on 137 khz without any preamps etc. It is very sensitive using both my loop and vertical. The IPO ctl is useful to avoid overload. This one has the optional DSP unit, 60, 120 and 240 hz selectable and is very effective on LF. If I had the CW filter as well it would be even better.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:32:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2A2y-0004jX-OR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:32:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2A2y-0004jJ-Gl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:32:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2A2r-0000oC-F7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:32:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2A2r-0000o2-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:32:25 +0000 Received: from smtpout0144.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.144] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Ahn-0003ui-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:14:44 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.72) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C55445001AF00A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:30:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c62295$d5160760$48e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:49:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: DRP Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
For interest DRP is solid with me on the vertical at 1042z. Signal is about 22 Db over noise approx. QRG 136.319 Khz
I do not normally check this QRG during daytime, I expect he goes 24 hrs a day !!
I work OH1TN daytime frequently on CW and he is about the same distance but in the opposite direction so I expect this would be normal. DRP is not visible on the loop, which is broadside in his direction.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:29:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2AwS-0004LJ-76 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:29:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2AwS-0004LC-2d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:29:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Avp-0001J5-5j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:29:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Avn-0001Iw-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:29:12 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Bah-0004Jh-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:11:30 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25710 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2AuN-000PE5-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c6229d$cd2742f0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Gary, Many thanks for your help. Most thunderstorms have faded away now. I will try it an other night. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:58:45 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2BOO-0005bx-SO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:58:45 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2BOO-0005ZP-Fx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:58:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2BNX-0001Yg-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:57:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2BNX-0001YX-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:57:51 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Cex-0003pd-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:20:11 +0000 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1F2BNF-0008I5-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:33 +0100 Received: from p54868d67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.141.103] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #21) id 1F2BNF-0007wv-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: <43D90DB2.40205@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:58:10 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: RE: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, Gary and others, Gary wrote: >On the top menu bar click > >"View/Windows" then "Spectrum Lab components" & you will get a block >diagram, look for box with ? in it on a connection between L4 & L5 (next to >a green triangle), click this box & point at "Automatic Gain Control" at the >bottom of the list, choosing/setting different values may help the >situation. > >Wolf said this is not a visual gain control like those in Argo & Spectran so >may only have a minimal effect, tried it & believe it did help. The problem >with visual AGC is that it not only reduces the level of visual noise on the >display it also reduces the displayed signal. > > > Thanks for the explanation Gary, it is correct. The downside with the AGC ("visible" or not) is, you don't notice what causes the signal to get weaker on the screen : Is it, because the signal voltage drops, or because the broadband noise level increases ? Without an AGC, you can clearly see the screen getting lighter. And if the (wanted) signal gets darker, you know its voltage drops. For propagation analysis, you want to observe the "absolute" voltage, so better switch the AGC off (this applies to all kinds of AGC's, hard- or software). Furthermore, if you want to plot the field strength in a graph (like CT1DRP and some others in this group do), the AGC *must* be turned off, otherwise the "dBuV / meter" readings get useless. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:40:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2C2V-0006V7-CO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:40:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2C2V-0006UU-4v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:40:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2C21-0001pe-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:39:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2C21-0001pV-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:39:41 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2DJT-0004Cg-0T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:02:02 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25727 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2C1l-0009jk-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:39:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c622a7$d163f6b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D8C8FB.9020704@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:39:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Hartmut, Thank you for the information. I could see the noise on one of your screenshots. It appeared that you had a fade, whilst it was at maximum here. 73 Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:48:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CAK-0006Wu-QI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:48:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CAK-0006Wd-LQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:48:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CA4-00020b-2p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:48:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CA3-00020S-O4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:47:59 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2DRV-0004Hy-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:10:20 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25728 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2C8b-000AKI-9o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:46:29 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c622a8$ce27e910$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002501c62206$623f46a0$0200a8c0@erica> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:46:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Peter, Thanks. Have you any idea how large this copper cylinder was? I have build an electric field antenna from a Hammond diecast box, 1590LB, measuring 50 x 50 x 30 mm. The buffer amplifier was mounted inside the box. An isolated BNC connector kept the box floating from the cable shield. This box was large enough to provide excellent signal levels. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CJ6-0006pA-W0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CJ6-0006ok-O5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CIv-000272-0q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CIu-00026t-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:57:08 +0000 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2DaM-0004Nr-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:19:29 +0000 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F2CHg-0005KE-01; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:55:52 +0100 Received: from HW1 (ThjKPYZGZejfpytZSAI8NwRBut4-pkgcxKSDT2FmKkXdpca4gGlCUi@[84.133.126.85]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F2CGg-18QAYC0; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:54:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:54:46 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <263804964.20060126195446@t-online.de> To: Roelof Bakker In-Reply-To: <001401c622a7$d163f6b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D8C8FB.9020704@bbs2-gifhorn.de> <001401c622a7$d163f6b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ThjKPYZGZejfpytZSAI8NwRBut4-pkgcxKSDT2FmKkXdpca4gGlCUi X-TOI-MSGID: 82a63f2f-9a83-45a5-a982-84f7441f2420 Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof, > I could see the noise on one of your screenshots. on which capture? You probably mean the CW blur of Joe's 5wpm signal between the QRSS signal? 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:49 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CRJ-0001F4-Av for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:49 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CRJ-0001Eu-7C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CQr-0002Hc-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CQq-0002HT-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:20 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2DiJ-0004UT-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:27:42 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:25736 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2CQb-000BrV-SY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:05:06 +0000 Message-ID: <005e01c622ab$67b142a0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D8C8FB.9020704@bbs2-gifhorn.de> <001401c622a7$d163f6b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <263804964.20060126195446@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:04:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Hartmut, 25 JAN, VO1NA 05:45 -07:00 73 Roelof From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:33:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CsB-00066x-JE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:33:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2CsB-00063x-DQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:33:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Crm-0002YY-B8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:33:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Crl-0002YP-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:33:09 +0000 Received: from smtpout0136.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.136] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2DWh-0005Fo-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:15:33 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.185) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C152030020D184 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:32:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c622af$52063ec0$b9e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c62258$a84505c0$06e8fc3e@l8p8y6> <43D8B117.6010603@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:07:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: LF: TR > Hi Mal, > interesting observations. Here I usual have a stronger fade-in period > (1-2 hours), followed by a deeper fade. Then signals recover depending > on the K-index of the last days. If the K-index was higher more fading > is visible. Before the stronger fade-out period starts there appeared a > deeper fade. > > Attached a screenshot taken last night. It seems John, WD2XES was a bit > late and missed the good overnight period. > > I'll upload more captures later the day to my website when back home > from work. > > 73 > > Hartmut > > Hi Hartmut My screen capture is totally different to yours with nothing visible during the middle of the night. Several thing are different here to your QTH. You are further south and east than me and this different latitude, especially being south makes a difference, noticeable on other bands as well. When I go to the Algarve the propagation is totally different to my home qth which is about 1200 miles further north. The angle of arrival and signal capture by my vertical would be different to your loops, my capture would favour low angle arrival signals, whereas the loop might favour high angle so it could be that most of the signals are arriving at higher angles for the distance involved between the USA and Germany. When I use my E/W loop which is good to EU it is not as good to the West and this is maybe because the USA signals are much further away, and the angles of arrival would probably be different to those signals from EU. These are short time observations so far, it is complicated and would need more research. I am more interested in having QSO'S rather than delving into propagation research !! Because of my low noise QTH out in the countryside the vertical performs very well and I would expect it to be better than the smaller 80m loop on RX but like I said the vertical probably favours lower angle arrival signals especially at the distance involved from the USA even on 137 khz. Others might have a contribution or comment to make about our observations. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:35:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Cti-0005DC-Rk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:35:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Cti-0005Ba-Kb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:35:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CtY-0002ba-GK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:35:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2CtY-0002bR-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:35:00 +0000 Received: from smtpout0138.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.138] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2EB0-0004xL-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:57:21 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.185) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C152030020D17D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c622af$50b68d40$b9e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <012620060247.19550.43D8382B0007D77600004C5E22007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <004201c62270$16954280$0b01a8c0@server> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:37:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: TA best yet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: LF: TA best yet > Hello LFers, > > The TA path to EN93dr was the best yet, with a full screen width copy > of CT1DRP. Unfortunately it was the only TA signal I saw, so either > he was the only one on, or the path to "G" land wasn't there. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr Hi JB There was probably no G stns active. I only come on the odd time and I think the others do the same. At the time I looked on 136.319 khz area CT1DRP was the only acty noticed, and I can copy them all in EU if they are on. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2DBL-0003R2-EG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2DBL-0003Qn-9b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2DAy-0002pS-Cb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2DAy-0002pJ-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:00 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2ESQ-0005Ds-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:15:22 +0000 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F2DAg-0006yu-00; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:52:42 +0100 Received: from HW1 (E626tsZCre3waO2meb95rJ+hVrb8GGFsthuwzv5V6U6K9tx3LDkD6N@[84.133.126.85]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F2DAa-0gHgHY0; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:52:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:52:27 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <804398912.20060126205227@t-online.de> To: Roelof Bakker In-Reply-To: <005e01c622ab$67b142a0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> References: <005801c6218c$dffbd880$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002001c621b1$48645220$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43D8C8FB.9020704@bbs2-gifhorn.de> <001401c622a7$d163f6b0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <263804964.20060126195446@t-online.de> <005e01c622ab$67b142a0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: E626tsZCre3waO2meb95rJ+hVrb8GGFsthuwzv5V6U6K9tx3LDkD6N X-TOI-MSGID: 19541b87-789c-4968-a3ae-76caca4135c1 Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 JAN 06 XKO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof, > 25 JAN, VO1NA 05:45 -07:00 that is the "cw-blur" of the 5wpm cw signal from Joe, VO1NA. Joe was sending QRSS30 signal at the top of the hour and at h:30 5 wpm cw. The fast signal looks on a slow QRSS30 screen like "blur" about 3Hz broad. This can also be seen on the capture I posted earlier today but not so clear because I used high compression for that screenshot and copied the time scale from the bottom of the capture just below the signal of VO1NA. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:45:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Evc-0003Re-Cw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:45:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Evc-0003Qy-4X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:45:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Euw-0003ei-6N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:44:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Euv-0003eZ-NS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:44:33 +0000 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2GCN-0006JT-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:06:57 +0000 Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060126214026.NDCR19933.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:40:26 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.48]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060126214025.WRCQ21315.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:40:25 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:40:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43D941C4.17242.234668@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: LF: XDV beacon on Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I will be transmitting tonight (26/27 Jan) on 136.3175kHz using QRSS60. Reports welcome. Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:31:44 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2RpN-0006H3-10 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:31:44 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2RpM-0006GO-DX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:31:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2RoW-0000PP-3H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:30:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2RoV-0000PG-P4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:30:47 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2T6A-0006Kj-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:53:25 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060127113022m14001thame>; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:30:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c62335$0f5f9900$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:30:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 27 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Higher static levels but another 1-1/2 hour before dark capture of CT1DRP. Unfortunately, no sign of XDV - probably due to the higher static levels. Captures at: http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:51:24 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2U0Z-0004Zq-1I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:51:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2U0Y-0004ZP-RL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:51:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Tzz-0001Qo-3L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:50:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2Tzy-0001Qf-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:50:46 +0000 Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2VHe-0007qx-Gk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:13:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 20201 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2006 13:49:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2006 13:49:17 -0000 Message-ID: <43DA258D.9020604@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:52:13 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Subject: LF: WD2XES WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) WD2XES will be running in WOLF (10 b/s standard mode) tonight on 137.577 kHz, hopefully starting at 2230 UTC. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES WD2XES status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:14:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2VJO-0004Cy-Sn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:14:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2VJO-0004C2-Dt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:14:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2VIk-00026v-JY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:14:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2VIk-00026m-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:14:14 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Vy8-0005Et-D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:02 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F2VIh-0004eY-00; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:14:11 +0100 Received: from HW1 (r4NiU-ZFZeDaliAzH5dGuODz2gWDu3AlGPWFVHA9bpKDGWjvU9Lj8-@[84.133.98.70]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F2VIU-08vXRw0; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:13:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:13:56 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1832368979.20060127161356@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r4NiU-ZFZeDaliAzH5dGuODz2gWDu3AlGPWFVHA9bpKDGWjvU9Lj8- X-TOI-MSGID: 8d58b042-487e-4dfd-b780-5b257a464135 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 26/27th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Despite the higher static levels copied VO1NA 03:00-06:30, WD2XES 03:00-04:50 and WD2XKO 01:45-07:30. Captures: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:52:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Vtl-0003KC-PM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:52:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2Vtl-0003IH-D8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:52:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2VtN-0002OX-7I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:52:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2VtM-0002OO-Rw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:52:04 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2XB8-0001Cz-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:14:46 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:26245 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2Vt3-000OIt-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:51:46 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c62359$8edce2e0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1832368979.20060127161356@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:51:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA JAN 27 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070504090404020307010104" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070504090404020307010104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, A lot of noise after 01:00 UTC. 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Hi Mal, this is a fairly common case in most parts of the cycle I have looked at so far. I can only surmise what I think causes the effect.  I believe that as the daytime absorption dies away  and the D-layer electron density drop the "reflection heaght" for long distance signals moves up from 50 to 60 km to around 100km. This means a greater distance can be covered in one hop and the received signals increase in strength. As the night progresses I think it may be that higher angle signals are propagated so around the 0200 to 0330z period you will see quite deep fading on long distance signals as the differnt paths cancel each other out (or sometimes reinforce each other) I notice that the centre part of the night does not normally show lower levels but it does seem to have more dips which carve the QRSS signals up. Why this should change again towards morning is a mystery still, but over all I agree with you that the best times are around an hour to 90 minutes before dawn. 
 
The effect oftent mentioed of signals continuing until after dawn is fairly common at "quiet sun" times, and particularly in the morning. In Europe the noise is mainly from the east (the land mass). The sunrise sweeps over eastern europe up to a couple of hours before the dawn reaches the UK. This can mean that there is a quieter period in the morning just before UK dawn, this is good for looking to the west but not so good for the Russian stations. The important cut-off is the time that the darkness shadow reaches the region of the "reflection" at the height of the "reflecting layer"  ( I keep putting reflection in quotes to save myself hassle from the purists who say it is not a mirror-like reflection but a gradual bending or refraction). Tis reveals some interesting  ideas, although geometrically the maximu, rage on LF for a one-hop signal is about 2200 to 2500km, my suspicion is that the first signals to reach the NA coast from the UK may do so in just one hop (!!) They are quite weak but at this time half the Atlantic at 100km altitude is in sunlight. It is possible that there is some "daytime" propagation but there are strong reasons related to the "tea-time dip" that suggest this is not the case. Daytime signals were often visible from CFH, usually in winter when the solar radiation was weaker and probably the attenuation was less. These often peaked at about 1500z when the mid-atlantic point was getting the highest dose of UV. I did copy Joe at daytime in 2004 (I think) around 1300 in summer, but I think the reason for that was a very high concentration of electrons in the D-layer due to a geomagnetic storm. Normally the summer radiation levels with wipe out daytime propagation at that distance.
 
I do have ARGO signal traces from Joe John Dex and Warren (when active) through most of the last week or so. The suffer fading in the middle hours and come up quite strong before dawn. It is interesting to see the way that the fade at different times due the phase differences on the different path lengths. The same effect  occurs at the receive end, different station will see the fades at different times and one station may report excellent  signals (beacuse of addative effects) whilst another will moan of poor signals because the fading at his site as not been favouable. The distance between such widely varying reception can be as little as 50 km.
 
Its fascinating stuff (to me who is well adicted anyway !) and more effects are appearing during these quiet years which may help to harden up on some of my "flights of fancy".
 
Cheers de Alan G3NYK
  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 26 January 2006 09:12
Subject: LF: TR

Hi All
Stns observed during the night. VO1NA, XKO and XES.
XKO strongest sig last nite and vy good around 0800z, XES not as strong as usual and VO1NA only visible at times but a good signal when he popped up. There were a couple of others that I could not make out *MJ
My observations indicate that the best time for TR to my QTH is late morning 0700 - 0900z other time is 0001 - 0200z approx and little or no propagation  the rest of the time during night time.  ie my sunrise seems best and sunset at the USA end. This is the RX situation at my end, TX could be different from here. I am surprised that there is no propagation during the majority of the dark hours at both ends.
What does Alan think about that.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:32:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2aGX-0003Wl-Ol for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:32:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2aGX-0003Vb-Jl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:32:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2aFX-0003nO-1g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:31:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2aFW-0003nF-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:31:14 +0000 Received: from smtpout0185.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.185] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2bXN-0004Jg-82 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:54:00 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.134) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C55445001D54CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:29:03 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c62380$4c1ea2a0$86e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:28:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
RX9BS solid copy on fsk at 2001z this evening 27/01/06 
Sent
RA3YO BS E strangely RA3YO is transmitting at the same time and appears to be in QSO with BS sending OOO
Both have now stopped at 2015 z approx
Awaiting more acty with the possibility of a QSO in mind with RX9BS.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:55:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2adB-000137-LC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:55:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2adB-00012W-Fd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:55:41 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2acc-0003va-6C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:55:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2acb-0003vR-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:55:05 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2bI7-0007qp-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:38:00 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006012720541401100i1ncee>; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:54:19 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c62386$320de8c0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c62380$4c1ea2a0$86e8fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:11:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010604070503000302010701" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010604070503000302010701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
A record early reception of CT1DRP - 2015Z - about 1-3/4 hours before sunset. 
 
 
Jay, W1VD
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Jan 2006 00:04:38 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2dZz-00046Q-2x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:04:38 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2dZy-00045x-RH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:04:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2dZR-0004Gr-TL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:04:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2dZR-0004Gi-Ea for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:04:01 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2eF0-0000rW-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:47:01 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca 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B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43DA258D.9020604@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:59:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: WD2XES WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: ; Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: LF: WD2XES WOLF Tonight > WD2XES will be running in WOLF 10 tonight on 137.577 kHz, > hopefully starting at 2230 UTC. Reports are welcome. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > WD2XES status: http://www.w1tag.com Hi John, Nice WOLF signals here at EN93dr as you can see for yourself: 2006-01-27 23:33:57 >WOLF10 -r 8000 -f 577 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.461 a: 1.2 dp:116.3 ci:15 cj:292 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 48 f: 0.460 a: 1.2 dp:116.0 ci:15 cj:292 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 96 f: 0.459 a: 1.3 dp:115.0 ci:15 cj:292 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 192 f: 0.459 pm: 4863 jm:377 q: 6.5 6.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 288 f: 0.459 pm: 8786 jm:377 q: 9.3 8.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 384 f: 0.459 pm:13355 jm:377 q: 11.4 11.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 480 f: 0.459 pm:17653 jm:377 q: 12.7 12.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 576 f: 0.459 pm:20284 jm:377 q: 13.4 13.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 672 f: 0.459 pm:21231 jm:377 q: 13.7 13.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 768 f: 0.459 pm:21811 jm:377 q: 13.9 14.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 864 f: 0.459 pm:22220 jm:377 q: 14.2 14.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 960 f: 0.459 pm:22392 jm:377 q: 14.5 14.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1056 f: 0.459 pm:22845 jm:376 q: 14.6 14.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1152 f: 0.459 pm:23214 jm:376 q: 14.5 14.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1248 f: 0.459 pm:23568 jm:376 q: 14.7 14.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1344 f: 0.459 pm:24214 jm:376 q: 14.7 14.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES - 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:13:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2kHN-0001CE-Vn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:13:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2kHN-0001Bn-Jm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:13:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2kGh-0005Bf-CE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:13:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2kGg-0005BW-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:13:06 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2lYh-0002r6-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:36:03 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-39-82-255-45-200.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.45.200]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 51F2EE96C for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:12:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002401c623da$3e6532a0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:12:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: XKO,NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080908070705010601030801" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080908070705010601030801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello all on the list !This last night, good copy of the beacons 
 
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wrg2cZhrKqd6gxxwoYqO+TdhaQ/OzHNZfyvtrW88tBNS5A/9foCAAAA7 --------------030605060609000606010901-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:51:28 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2oc4-0006A2-I9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:51:28 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2oc4-00069u-Eg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:51:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2ob9-0006BK-HW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:50:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2ob9-0006BB-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:50:31 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2pGw-0005kT-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:45 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012811494401300oijq1e>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:49:45 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:49:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 28 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Early reception of CT1DRP. Static low but overnight signal levels lower than previous night. G3YXM also 'caught in the act'. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:10:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2pqe-0005zb-8h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:10:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2pqe-0005xj-3p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:10:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2ppd-0006N4-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:09:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2ppd-0006Mv-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:09:33 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2qVU-0006Ll-34 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:52:49 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:26660 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2ppb-000IZQ-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:09:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c6240c$0e206790$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:09:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Alan, LF-group, In my notebook some more height versus signal level figures were found. This was a test on my semi-flat roof, starting 1 metre above the roof and 7 metre from the ground. height rel. dB ================= 7 m / 23.0 ft 0 dB 8 m / 26.2 ft + 4 dB 9 m / 29.5 ft + 6 dB 10 m / 32.8 ft + 9 dB 11 m / 36.0 ft + 10.2 dB 12 m / 39.3 ft + 11.5 dB As said before, signal to noise ratio did not change with height. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2q4G-0006ZE-BW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2q4G-0006YA-79 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2q3i-0006Sp-NO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2q3i-0006SZ-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:06 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2rLp-0006If-Ac for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:47:08 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:26661 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2q2F-000KYu-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:22:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c6240d$e1ca1590$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:22:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello all, A few "o" copies of VO1NA and WD2XXK, last night. Of the latter, I can not find any reference on the web. Mal, G3KEV was 37 dB above my noise floor in normal CW this morning. With 30 dB less, I should still have had a good copy. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2q4G-0004Fj-9h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2q4G-0004FR-2l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2q3i-0006Sn-KH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2q3i-0006SV-0O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:24:06 +0000 Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2rLp-0006Id-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:47:08 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:26662 helo=pcroelof) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2q3R-000KiZ-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:23:50 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c6240e$0dd45880$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:23:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Who is XXK? 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relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2rlZ-0006zK-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 11801 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2006 14:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2006 14:30:10 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:30:13 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c62417$5a1214e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Thread-Index: AcYkASwYAOjaKUEAQfSQCnwyFbduDAAFcv4g Subject: LF: RE: TA 28 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay Thanks for the report. The "partial" on your Argo grab was "as transmitted" (or as NOT transmitted!) due to an exciter problem. I'll run it again tonight until about 01:00. 73 Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: 28 January 2006 11:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA 28 JAN 06 Early reception of CT1DRP. Static low but overnight signal levels lower than previous night. G3YXM also 'caught in the act'. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:38:47 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rDy-0007U9-QR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:38:47 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rDy-0007U3-Mm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:38:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rDU-0006ou-KZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:38:16 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rDU-0006ol-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:38:16 +0000 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2rtN-000710-2J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:21:34 +0000 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20060128143726113005vn4se>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:37:31 +0000 Message-ID: <43DB81A0.5070801@att.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:37:20 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001401c6240d$e1ca1590$2101a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <001401c6240d$e1ca1590$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof Bakker wrote: > A few "o" copies of VO1NA and WD2XXK, last night. > Of the latter, I can not find any reference on the web. > WD2XKO was on that frequency last night sending the full call. Your copy sure looks like XXK so much I had to check the keyer to make sure it was properly programed and I found it was. Dex, W4DEX / WD2XKO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:41:00 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rG7-0007LX-Sf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:41:00 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rG7-0007L9-OJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:40:59 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rFg-0006uF-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:40:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rFg-0006u6-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:40:32 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2sXn-0007IE-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:03:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 25201 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2006 14:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2006 14:40:15 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:40:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c62418$c2a1da80$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <001401c6240d$e1ca1590$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Thread-Index: AcYkDjEvftcNsxzeQd+yd1w53qCUXAACjtuw Subject: LF: RE: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof I also have what looks like "..D2XXK" best at around 03:30 on 137.7757 which is where WD2XKO usually is. Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker Sent: 28 January 2006 13:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Hello all, A few "o" copies of VO1NA and WD2XXK, last night. Of the latter, I can not find any reference on the web. Mal, G3KEV was 37 dB above my noise floor in normal CW this morning. With 30 dB less, I should still have had a good copy. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rWX-00065Y-H0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rWX-000631-Dy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rVy-00071f-Be for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rVx-00071W-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:21 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2sBq-00076O-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:40 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2006012814571301200kavf1e>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:57:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c6241b$1f193360$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c62417$5a1214e0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:57:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TA 28 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dave Thought the propagation was changing rather abruptly ;~) ... will be in receive mode again tonight and TX mode tomorrow night. In looking over last year's captures I had receptions of YU7AR, SM6BHZ, G3LDO and DF6NM. Haven't seen any of them yet this year - perhaps they are either no longer on the band, in receive only mode or not transmitting in the TA window. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: LF: RE: TA 28 JAN 06 > Jay > > Thanks for the report. The "partial" on your Argo grab was "as transmitted" > (or as NOT transmitted!) due to an exciter problem. > > I'll run it again tonight until about 01:00. > > 73 > > Dave G3YXM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove > Sent: 28 January 2006 11:50 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: TA 28 JAN 06 > > Early reception of CT1DRP. Static low but overnight signal levels lower than > previous night. G3YXM also 'caught in the act'. > > http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html > > Jay, W1VD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:14 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rlJ-0002Uf-QH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rlJ-0002Te-LV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rkh-00078E-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:12:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rkh-000785-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:12:35 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2t2p-0007bT-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:35:39 +0000 Received: from 88-106-220-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.220.39]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2006 15:11:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AMwMAE8T20OHQBULCBw Received: from 88-106-220-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.220.39]:2664 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F2rjK-0008NX-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:11:10 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:12:01 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <43DB81A0.5070801@att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: RE: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dex & Roelof, I have an overnite capture from 0240z to 0340z showing very clearly D2XXK just above VO1NA. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: 28 January 2006 14:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Roelof Bakker wrote: > A few "o" copies of VO1NA and WD2XXK, last night. > Of the latter, I can not find any reference on the web. > WD2XKO was on that frequency last night sending the full call. Your copy sure looks like XXK so much I had to check the keyer to make sure it was properly programed and I found it was. Dex, W4DEX / WD2XKO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:18:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rqR-0007Ee-00 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:18:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2rqQ-0007ET-PC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:18:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rpu-0007DR-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:17:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2rpu-0007DI-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:17:58 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2t83-0007fH-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:41:02 +0000 Received: from 88-106-220-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.220.39]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2006 15:17:36 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AMwMAPQY20OHQBULCBw Received: from 88-106-220-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.220.39]:2716 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F2rpX-000NAb-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:17:35 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:18:26 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <43DB81A0.5070801@att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: RE: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020104020503040803070602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020104020503040803070602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dex, Screen capture attached. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: 28 January 2006 14:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Roelof Bakker wrote: > A few "o" copies of VO1NA and WD2XXK, last night. > Of the latter, I can not find any reference on the web. > WD2XKO was on that frequency last night sending the full call. Your copy sure looks like XXK so much I had to check the keyer to make sure it was properly programed and I found it was. 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15:39:16 +0000 Message-ID: <43DB9022.4000301@att.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:39:14 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Dex & Roelof, > >I have an overnite capture from 0240z to 0340z showing very clearly D2XXK >just above VO1NA. > > > It sure looks like I'm guilty :( What little defense evidence I had was erased this morning when I changed modes and reprogrammed the keying computer. At first I thought maybe the amp over current was tripping out causing the QRSS elements to show dots instead of dashes. But I don't see any way that could have caused XKO to look like XXK. The only person that could possibly prove my innocents in this case would be Johnny Cochran. And he isn't taking on any more clients. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:57 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sZL-0005QB-D3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sZL-0005PD-6A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2sYg-0007SL-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2sYf-0007SC-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:13 +0000 Received: from omc1-s20.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.222]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2tEZ-0007Tt-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:47:33 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.105]) by omc1-s20.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:04:05 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:04:05 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV1.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:04:00 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c62400$ee7542e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001c01c6240e$0dd45880$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:03:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:03:59 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2006 16:04:05.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[768CF650:01C62424] Subject: LF: Re: Who is XXK? II Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I seen that 'XX' last night also but later seen it was Dex or some Possum's changing sumthin...
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roelof Bakker
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: LF: Who is XXK? II

Sorry, I forgot the screenshot.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sdU-0005rp-G3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:12 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sdU-0005rg-B7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2sd3-0007Xp-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:08:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2sd3-0007Xg-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:08:45 +0000 Received: from omc1-s27.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.229]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2tIw-0007Vp-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:52:05 +0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.173.54]) by omc1-s27.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:08:40 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:08:40 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 71.37.244.7 by BAY5-DAV24.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:08:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.37.244.7] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43DB9022.4000301@att.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:08:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:08:37 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2006 16:08:40.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AB50A60:01C62425] Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Damn Possums screwin around with YA last night Dex... I was sitting there and seen the ID here and confirmed it on the Grabber also. Double X night I guess...
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK?

Gary - G4WGT wrote:

>Dex & Roelof,
>
>I have an overnite capture from 0240z to 0340z showing very clearly D2XXK
>just above VO1NA.
>
> 
>
It sure looks like I'm guilty :(   What little defense evidence I had
was erased this morning when I changed modes and reprogrammed the keying
computer.  At first I thought maybe the amp over current was tripping
out causing the QRSS elements to show dots instead of dashes.  But I
don't see any way that could have caused XKO to look like XXK.  The only
person that could possibly prove my innocents in this case would be
Johnny Cochran.  And he isn't taking on any more clients.

Dex

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:10:31 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sej-0001OI-P1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:10:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2sej-0001Nk-FT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:10:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2seF-0007ay-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:59 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2seF-0007ap-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:59 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2twP-0008AD-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:33:04 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:26691 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2sdz-0001xm-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:09:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c62425$3a851d30$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43DB9022.4000301@att.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:09:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: Who is WD2XXK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Dex, Problem solved! Thank you all. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2ssS-00029z-2w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2ssR-00029D-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2srt-0007kA-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2srs-0007k1-Ju for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:24:04 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2tXm-0007dN-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:07:24 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F2srl-00019g-00; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:23:57 +0100 Received: from HW1 (GWIbDeZYZesMf+VnZRG22zN9aNPmh4Pwx+zLAB7BUBThJLtH38XR8v@[84.133.88.129]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F2sre-1dvdzM0; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:23:50 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:23:46 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1351745447.20060128172346@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GWIbDeZYZesMf+VnZRG22zN9aNPmh4Pwx+zLAB7BUBThJLtH38XR8v X-TOI-MSGID: 7df6500e-25fe-4aa7-8066-875ff04fb56f Subject: LF: TA Jan, 27/28th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Very strong signal from VO1NA last night. The 5wpm blur was very strong visible on the QRSS3 screen 03:30-04:00. Too bad, my audio recording failed because I forgot to switch the recording off from a day earlier and got a 2,8 GB wav file. All my audio software reads only the first 2 GB.... and I need the end of the recording. >From WD2XGJ I captured only two full "XGJ" string between 03:30 and 06:30. WD2X(X)KO was strong, but at the time when Joe, VO1NA was sending CW at 5wpm, the signal was mostly covered by the "CW-blur". So only partial copy of the full "WD2XXKO". >From WD2XES's WOLF transmission on 137.577 I decoded only a few lines about 00:00 and 03:40 UTC. May be this was a computer problem here, the used soundcard was not stable in phase. Captures: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:26:46 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2tqY-0002eZ-2m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2tqX-0002eE-UM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2tpc-0007yR-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:25:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2tpc-0007yI-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:25:48 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2uVY-0007xb-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:09:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 3166 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2006 17:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.50.20 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2006 17:24:45 -0000 Message-ID: <003201c6242f$c1ef8300$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> <013401c621bd$c7f33c20$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <000001c621d9$6ee29240$67b0fea9@lark> <000b01c621df$f54a2ae0$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <001101c6240c$0e206790$2101a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:15:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Mini Whip and local noise and height AGL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, thanks for those measurements. I am guessing that there is some effect from the roof at "zero height" as I would only expect doubling the height to give 6dB. It looks like the "effective height" is measured from the roof in this case. height about 1.5m , multiply by 4 for 12db at 12m is about right. Strange ! However it certainly demonstrates the importance of height with a e-field probe. I think Dave G3YXM found a bit difference when he elevated his a bit more. I suppose it could be the effect of buildings on the wavefront despite the fact that they a much smaller than a wavelength. Thanks and Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Roelof Bakker To: Sent: 28 January 2006 13:09 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise > Hello Alan, LF-group, > > In my notebook some more height versus signal level figures were found. > This was a test on my semi-flat roof, starting 1 metre above the roof and 7 > metre from the ground. > > height rel. dB > ================= > 7 m / 23.0 ft 0 dB > 8 m / 26.2 ft + 4 dB > 9 m / 29.5 ft + 6 dB > 10 m / 32.8 ft + 9 dB > 11 m / 36.0 ft + 10.2 dB > 12 m / 39.3 ft + 11.5 dB > > As said before, signal to noise ratio did not change with height. > > Best regards, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:33:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2utR-0008Ap-Ok for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:33:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2utR-0008AL-Je for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:33:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2usV-0008H3-4d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:32:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2usU-0008Gu-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:32:50 +0000 Received: from smtpout0161.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.161] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2wAg-0001oj-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:55:57 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.104) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43DB68E5000055B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:30:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c62438$ede95c20$68e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:30:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: NEWS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
There seems to be no news about the RX9BS acty or RA3YO lately although they are active at present. I was able to copy both yesterday evening and published an email to this effect but so far no response.
BS was strong enough with me yesterday evening for a QSO but suddenly switched off.
Maybe someone else has some info.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:16:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2wUK-0005M6-SK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:16:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2wUK-0005Ll-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:16:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2wT6-0000FV-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:14:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2wT6-0000FM-3b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:14:44 +0000 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F2xlJ-0002o1-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:37:53 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.2b5.3a0023d (3310) for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <2b5.3a0023d.310d2a4f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:13:03 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: TA 28/29 Jan 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jay,

you're so right, hadn't been on air for what must have been ages :-( Pushed the ol' pole out the chimney again today, and was rewarded by a pleasant QSO with Rich, OM2TW. If all works out I'll put out some DFCW later tonight, on 136318.5 or thereabouts. ERP is probably a bit lower than what it used to be, because the loading coil is no longer near the top but just outside the roof window.

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 28.01.2006 15:58:03 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

looking over last year's captures I had receptions of YU7AR, SM6BHZ, G3LDO and DF6NM. Haven't
seen any of them yet this year - perhaps they are either no longer on the band, in receive only mode
or not transmitting in the TA window.


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:51:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2yvC-0003OK-GV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:51:55 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2yvC-0003O1-Am for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:51:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2yuE-0000dX-Ms for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:50:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2yuE-0000dO-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:50:54 +0000 Received: from mx2.mail.ru ([194.67.23.122]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F30CT-00040Z-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:14:05 +0000 Received: from [62.33.236.78] (port=1225 helo=mail.ru) by mx2.mail.ru with asmtp id 1F2ytr-000PWR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:50:31 +0300 Message-ID: <43DBF52A.8060704@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:50:18 +0300 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c62438$ede95c20$68e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Subject: Re: LF: NEWS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mal
It Seems to me RX9BS was in beacon mode

Dmitry

hamilton mal wrote:
Hi All
There seems to be no news about the RX9BS acty or RA3YO lately although they are active at present. I was able to copy both yesterday evening and published an email to this effect but so far no response.
BS was strong enough with me yesterday evening for a QSO but suddenly switched off.
Maybe someone else has some info.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:30:20 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2zWN-00007G-7Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:30:20 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F2zWN-000070-3O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:30:19 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F2zW8-0000oK-7S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:30:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F2zW7-0000oB-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:30:03 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F30CB-0001rx-Jx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:13:32 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060128232954m1400lkq12e>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:29:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c62462$be4ab5c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:29:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) So far tonight...CT1DRP, G3YXM and partial copy of DL2HRE and DF6NM...but it's still early. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30MD-0007M4-4i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30MC-0007LW-VJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F30La-0000xz-Ka for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F30La-0000xq-6u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:23:14 +0000 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F31dq-0004ll-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:46:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 82252 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2006 00:21:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.65.144 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2006 00:21:56 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c6246a$0a8a31c0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c62462$be4ab5c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:22:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jay Joe, Dex, and Warren showing over here since about 2230z but not a stong as previous nights ( and I have a nasty strong drifty!) Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Rusgrove To: Sent: 28 January 2006 23:29 Subject: LF: TA > So far tonight...CT1DRP, G3YXM and partial copy of DL2HRE and DF6NM...but it's still early. > > Jay, W1VD > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:27:08 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30PL-0007U2-5k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:27:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30PK-0007SC-Sy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:27:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F30PB-00013q-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:26:57 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F30PA-00013h-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:26:56 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F31hS-0004pA-EA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:50:09 +0000 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F30Nw-0003ap-00; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:25:40 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Vy6FZkZSre4mqWdc5rJWz-2mycI0HM7JFi843AGz9+qn-UHo6ibGwQ@[84.133.88.129]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F30Np-1Ry15M0; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:25:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:25:33 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3206-0004y9-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:09:31 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter80.comcast.net ([204.127.197.180]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060129004550m1400lid4fe>; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:45:50 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter80.comcast.net; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:45:49 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:45:49 +0000 Message-Id: <012920060045.26392.43DC103D00041D680000671822007601800B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: XGJ X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hartmut, Thanks for the capture. I worked on the antenna system today and the antenna is again resonant in the T/A window. The signal should be back to what it was in November. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hartmut Wolff > Very strong signal of WD2XGJ tonight. See attachment. > > 73 > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:50:07 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30la-0008Vw-8x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:50:07 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F30la-0008Vl-5O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:50:06 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F30lS-0001G5-AU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:49:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F30lR-0001Fw-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:49:57 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F323j-00050V-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:13:11 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060129004935m1100171mde>; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:49:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c6246d$df7ec460$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c62462$be4ab5c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001001c6246a$0a8a31c0$67b0fea9@lark> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:49:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Alan Thanks for the info...looks like Hartmut has good signal levels from at least XGJ at his place. Signals are normally up an down here at this time of night and tend to smooth out in another hour or two. When they do finally smooth out there's no telling whether signal levels will be stronger or weaker than seen earlier in the evening. Interesting stuff! Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: LF: Re: TA > Hi Jay > Joe, Dex, and Warren showing over here since about 2230z but not a stong > as previous nights ( and I have a nasty strong drifty!) > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jay Rusgrove > To: > Sent: 28 January 2006 23:29 > Subject: LF: TA > > > > So far tonight...CT1DRP, G3YXM and partial copy of DL2HRE and DF6NM...but > it's still early. > > > > Jay, W1VD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:31:58 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F32MA-00087t-4i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:31:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F32M9-00087h-UD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:31:58 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F32Lc-0001U5-0k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:31:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F32Lb-0001Tw-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:31:23 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F33dv-0005Xn-A9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:54:38 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F32KN-0000dY-00; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:30:07 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bVFt68ZCYeaWm5tjaxBR45Eeud8myIlPfZE+pw1lnHBSRGr0RLGAQy@[84.133.88.129]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F32KE-0y2z9k0; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:29:58 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:29:58 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <814685230.20060129032958@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bVFt68ZCYeaWm5tjaxBR45Eeud8myIlPfZE+pw1lnHBSRGr0RLGAQy X-TOI-MSGID: fdc228eb-e717-4ada-98e0-e78b6c17107e Subject: LF: Strong TA signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020601030606000202010709" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020601030606000202010709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Very strong T/A signals tonight. Screenshot attached. 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Looks like you could work some of those stations on regular CW tonight.
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Hartmut Wolff
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:29 PM
Subject: LF: Strong TA signals

Very strong T/A signals tonight. Screenshot attached.

Hartmut
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:54:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F37O4-0007oE-Ha for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:54:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F37O4-0007ny-7p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:54:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F37NY-0003P2-DK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:53:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F37NX-0003Ot-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:53:43 +0000 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F383m-0004G6-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:37:23 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-43-82-249-184-214.adsl.proxad.net [82.249.184.214]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 60885443F1 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:53:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001301c624a9$0b4bd570$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c62462$be4ab5c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:53:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA [1] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040003070402090906000202" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040003070402090906000202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello all , on the list !
 
The last night very very good copy of the TA beacon :
 
00:00 to 01:30  XKO
01:00 to 03:30  XGJ , XES , XKO , NA
05:00 to 05:30  NA
06:00 to 06:30  NA , XKO
06:00 to 00:30  NA , XKO
 
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re!   Hello all , on the list !
 
The last night very very good copy of the TA beacon :
 
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2006 10:02:35 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F39Nb-0003lt-PG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:01:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F39Nb-0003lk-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:01:55 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3Ag1-0006t3-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:25:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 626 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.138.99?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.138.99 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.23/243]); Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:59:55 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c624ba$c1391b20$638a8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1351745447.20060128172346@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:59:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: TA Jan, 27/28th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF Group, XES, XGJ, XKO annd VO1NA all strong at times last night, and up until about 0900 this morning - but a lot of fading, so mostly only 1 or 2 signals visible at one time. Nil seen from RX9BS on Friday night, allthough RA3YO was a good signal here. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:03:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39Ou-0007Ds-Ke for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:03:16 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39Ou-0007Dh-GG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:03:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F39Op-0003ns-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F39Op-0003nj-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:03:11 +0000 Received: from smtpout0188.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.188] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3AhG-0006u1-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:26:33 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.172) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54F51001EC387 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:02:43 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c624bb$226b9d00$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:56:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
HI All
Lots of good signals last night.
Signals visible most of the night until gone 0935z this morning when I switched off. Signal fade on all signals was most severe around 0600-0800z when they picked up again but not quite as strong as earlier in the night.
Visible from around 0030z VO1NA, XKO, XES, XGJ
Strongest signals in order. XGJ, XKO, VO1NA and XES who was the weakest throughout the night and generally this station is one of the strongest, maybe on QRP last night.
73 and gl de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:04:49 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39QN-0007pc-WF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:04:49 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39QN-0007pU-R9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:04:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F39QI-0003tq-Hm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:04:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F39QI-0003tg-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:04:42 +0000 Received: from smtpout0189.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.189] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3A6Z-0005F9-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:48:24 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.208.172) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43C54F51001EC38C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:02:45 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c624bb$24061320$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:02:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: TX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Hi Jay and Co
I have been in RX mode since you last saw my transmission, although not every night. The only regular stn on 136.319 seems to be DRP going day and night !!
The only other interesting stn seen lately was RX9BS around 137.774 khz on DFCW.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39TM-00045T-3V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F39TL-00045K-S7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F39TB-00041B-I7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F39TB-000412-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:41 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3A9S-0005HD-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:51:23 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:29920 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F39T8-000Kv5-0k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:07:38 +0000 Message-ID: <003301c624bb$cea01600$2101a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1807341137.20060129012533@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:07:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020202050300070902030707" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020202050300070902030707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, Excellent copy of WD2XGJ. 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([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3ApY-000730-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:35:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 83000 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2006 10:11:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.134.201.219 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2006 10:11:29 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:12:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901c62462$be4ab5c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Subject: LF: RE: TA - HA6PX Grabber Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060200060806030606010705" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060200060806030606010705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF, TA afficionados, The HA6PX grabber now has a TA screen, check out http://starjan.hu/~ha6px/ha6px_TA The current screenshot shows signals from XGJ and XES, traces of XKO.(Small sample attached) I've saved the complete screenshot if anybody wants it. 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: 28 January 2006 23:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA So far tonight...CT1DRP, G3YXM and partial copy of DL2HRE and DF6NM...but it's still early. 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(v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1288795853.20060129131728@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001701c624bb$24061320$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> References: <001701c624bb$24061320$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RA9CUA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF enthusiasts, on a 136 one more enthusiast has appeared from Asia - Sergey RA9CUA He has made the first 2-way QSO in QRSS3 at Jan 27-28 with Oleg RX9BS Eq: marconi 80m long and 15m high TX 100W Output QTH-loc: MO07OQ 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:54:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3ACP-0006Hp-Br for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:54:25 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3ACP-0006HW-2y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:54:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ABy-0004Mh-5B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:53:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ABx-0004MY-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:53:57 +0000 Received: from smtp12.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3BUP-0007XK-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:17:20 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D08DF1C00096 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:53:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from Mix-Amiens-107-1-125.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Amiens-107-1-125.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.67.125]) by mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 172551C000A0 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:53:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060129105319949.172551C000A0@mwinf1209.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:52:54 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Pierre Godet X-X-Sender: godetj@comcon2.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001401c62438$ede95c20$68e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Message-ID: References: <001401c62438$ede95c20$68e4fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Subject: LF: NA, XES, XGJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080801030708030901000001" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080801030708030901000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi my friends ! 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:04:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3BIE-0006Ia-Bk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:04:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3BIE-0006IC-9h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:04:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3BHc-0004cz-Jv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:03:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3BHc-0004cq-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:03:52 +0000 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3Bxv-000647-4Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:47:37 +0000 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3BHZ-0006OV-04; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:03:49 +0100 Received: from HW1 (T5axE8ZEQejPM6HSypfmk+m5MfHy17x9AL9EQim6wHyOCh+MbXNZoJ@[84.133.95.58]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F3BHT-17BixE0; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:03:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:03:42 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17910390880.20060129130342@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: T5axE8ZEQejPM6HSypfmk+m5MfHy17x9AL9EQim6wHyOCh+MbXNZoJ X-TOI-MSGID: b14d7282-40e4-4609-9fb5-14239a71b385 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 28/29th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have now updated my website with the T/A captures 21:45-07:45 UTC from last night. Captures: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:53 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3BnY-0000r6-4F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:53 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3BnY-0000qp-1k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3BnH-0004lj-E8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3BnG-0004la-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:35 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3CTZ-0006Lg-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:20:20 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006012912362401100hpg02e>; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:36:24 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c624d0$9dd4bc00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:36:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 29 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Low static and good conditions. Reception of CT1DRP, G3YXM, DL2HRE and DF6NM. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:53:17 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3DvY-00014D-Rg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:53:17 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3DvY-00012I-MJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:53:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3DuV-00059Q-NX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:52:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3DuV-00059H-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:52:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3FD0-0001Oe-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:15:38 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0TEp8p1019390 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:51:08 -0500 Received: from server (dial-24.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.24]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0TEp2aG015373 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:51:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005801c624e3$8876c8e0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c624bb$24061320$acd0fc3e@l8p8y6> <1288795853.20060129131728@dx.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:47:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: DRP last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060800010608050306070002" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060800010608050306070002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LFers, Our friend Brian, CT1DRP, had the strongest signals yet, here at Aerial Acres around 03:30 UTC last night. 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ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3E0L-0004Jc-Tg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:58:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3E0L-0004JG-OE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:58:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3E08-0005Fi-Qv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:58:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3E08-0005FZ-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:58:00 +0000 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3EgT-00079c-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:41:49 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.24a.5fc711b (4254) for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:54:00 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <24a.5fc711b.310e3108@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:54:00 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: TA 29 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jay,

many thanks for the report and great captures - you've certainly made my day!

>> note call sign malfunction - how does Murphy do it?
...he does it manually - typing "df6nm " 13 (!) times in a row just can't work out right ;-)

73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

In einer eMail vom 29.01.2006 13:38:39 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Low static and good conditions. Reception of CT1DRP, G3YXM, DL2HRE and DF6NM.

http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html




 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:16:21 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3EHq-0006FB-Or for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:16:21 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3EHq-0006EW-K0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:16:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3EHZ-0005NH-5n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:16:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3EHY-0005N8-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:16:00 +0000 Received: from smtpout0134.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.134] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3Exw-0007Do-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:59:49 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.97) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.2.069.1) id 43DB68B700012C62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:15:47 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c624e6$dd32a680$61e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c62438$ede95c20$68e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <43DBF52A.8060704@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:15:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: NEWS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dmitri
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: LF: NEWS

Hi Mal
It Seems to me RX9BS was in beacon mode

Dmitry
 
Hi Dmitry
On the 27-01-06 at 2001 - 2006z you sent BS RA3YO and gave a OOO COPY and at the same time as you were Transmitting the other stn was sending a few hz from your frequency and he sent RA3YO BS E and he was using DFCW
After this both you and BS switched off and I did not see either of you again since.
I have a photo shot of the acty, you were a strong signal and BS was perfect O copy but weaker.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 


hamilton mal wrote:
Hi All
There seems to be no news about the RX9BS acty or RA3YO lately although they are active at present. I was able to copy both yesterday evening and published an email to this effect but so far no response.
BS was strong enough with me yesterday evening for a QSO but suddenly switched off.
Maybe someone else has some info.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:56:19 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3LT0-0003Qc-40 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:56:19 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3LSz-0003PP-V6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:56:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3LRw-00065K-3V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:12 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3LRv-00065B-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:11 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3MkZ-0005uM-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:18:46 +0000 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0TMsV5W011982 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:54:31 -0500 Received: from server (dial-225.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.225]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k0TMsVot014443 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:54:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007501c62527$0e66acc0$0b01a8c0@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <002b01c61d54$c510aaa0$20347ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:54:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: DRP appears @ 22:30 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello LFers, Looks like tonite might be another good one, as I'm seeing CT1DRP at a pretty good strength as early as 22:30 UTC. I'll be watching the TA window all evening for anyone giving it a go. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:18:32 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3LoT-0004V9-Lj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:18:32 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3LoT-0004Up-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:18:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3LoE-0006C1-EJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:18:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3LoD-0006Bs-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:18:13 +0000 Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3N6q-00064p-Pv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:41:49 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.208.11ab839a (4254) for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:17:44 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <208.11ab839a.310ea718@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:17:44 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: DRP appears @ 22:30 UTC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi J.B. and group,

sure, good to know someone is looking. I'm on 136318.4 /.5 DFCW now (centered ~ 0.43 Hz above Brian), sending my callsign each hour for 40 minutes, followed by a 20 minute break. Unless Murphy finds a way again...

Regards

Markus,DF6NM in JN59NK


In einer eMail vom 29.01.2006 23:56:15 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt weazle@hurontel.on.ca:

Looks like tonite might be another good one, as I'm seeing CT1DRP at
a pretty good strength as early as 22:30 UTC.  I'll be watching the TA
window all evening for anyone giving it a go.


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:40 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3M0F-0001v3-Up for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3M0F-0001ug-Qy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3M02-0006Ig-ON for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3M02-0006IX-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:26 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3NIg-0006A7-CP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:54:01 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006012923300401300olvaoe>; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:30:04 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c6252b$ee3e0060$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <208.11ab839a.310ea718@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:30:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Change of plans...will be in receive mode again tonight. DRP and DF6NM (partial copy so far) since 2200Z. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:39:56 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3M9D-0005Hg-1k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:39:56 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3M9C-0005Gw-S4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:39:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3M8z-0006P4-Dj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:39:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3M8z-0006Ov-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:39:41 +0000 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3NRa-0006DM-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:03:16 +0000 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3M8g-0001f5-00; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:39:22 +0100 Received: from HW1 (E63uHiZJgedqwf42eIopn3iqlFfg1pSyTQh3vDs-Xx8n5AV6mqZUkC@[84.133.81.18]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F3M8R-1f9XUG0; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:39:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:39:07 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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(GMT) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Thank you for the HELL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040207040506030709050000" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040207040506030709050000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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Hi Wolf -
 
Thank you for the QRSS/HELL QSO this morning. Copy here was very good.
Could you see anything of my HELL signal?
 
Later on your PSK31signals looked to be 100% - best I've seen from you but it is a long time since I could read German !!
 
Great to see so much HELL and PSK on LF in one morning !!
 
Regards - Brian
 

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04:14:20.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4EA2740:01C62553] Subject: LF: WD2XGJ busted again...wierd signal sent #2... 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Caught Warren in the act today sending the funny signals. Did Dex send some 'possums up the coast to invade Warren's QTH???
 
Later,
 
Mike
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The last night good good copy of the TA beacon :
 
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dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:37:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3XKm-0007x3-HY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:36:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3XKm-0007wu-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:36:36 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3YdZ-0002PV-48 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:00:23 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006013011361101100hosjqe>; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c62591$5e8fb600$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:35:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 30 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Some static...signals up and down. CT1DRP DL2HRE, DF6NM and mystery signal... http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:59:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3bRH-0001ye-3Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:59:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3bRG-0001xv-SQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:59:34 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3bQA-0008UC-LO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:58:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3bQA-0008U3-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:58:26 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3c71-0006Fd-KG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:42:46 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3bQ6-0007lU-03; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:58:22 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Vy6tD2ZdoeKggaACtUN-NyHrkvCizfIMgP0A9x7D6EYkzafrLkTGEe@[84.133.117.178]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F3bNF-20qCe00; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:55:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:55:24 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <257271271.20060130165524@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Vy6tD2ZdoeKggaACtUN-NyHrkvCizfIMgP0A9x7D6EYkzafrLkTGEe X-TOI-MSGID: e58d998c-9571-4caf-aab8-5992ede0639d Subject: LF: TA Jan, 29/30th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have updated my website with captures of VO1NA, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO from last night 21:45-07:45 UTC. Captures: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm John, WD2XES was transmitting in WOLF mode on 137.422. Copy all night best SNR about 00:00 and the below, 01:50 UTC. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de t: 24 f: 0.020 a:-0.8 dp:125.8 ci: 7 cj:296 OO/GY8A8F.P0IGL ? t: 48 f:-0.002 a: 1.0 dp:120.7 ci:14 cj:144 L9RUU**T6ZVBY6M ? t: 96 f:-0.002 a: 1.0 dp:117.8 ci:13 cj:144 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 192 f: 0.000 pm:11482 jm:673 q: -3.9 -5.6 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:16093 jm:673 q: -2.7 -2.6 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 384 f: 0.000 pm:21072 jm:673 q: -1.1 -0.5 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 480 f: 0.000 pm:30406 jm:673 q: 0.7 0.9 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 576 f: 0.000 pm:36961 jm:673 q: 2.1 2.1 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 672 f: 0.000 pm:42608 jm:673 q: 3.2 3.4 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 768 f: 0.000 pm:49112 jm:673 q: 3.7 4.0 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 864 f: 0.000 pm:54744 jm:673 q: 4.1 4.4 XES VY WET WOLF - t: 960 f: 0.000 pm:58968 jm:673 q: 4.4 4.6 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1056 f: 0.000 pm:62096 jm:673 q: 4.5 4.5 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1152 f: 0.000 pm:63075 jm:673 q: 4.6 4.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1248 f: 0.000 pm:64539 jm:673 q: 4.5 4.5 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1344 f: 0.000 pm:65364 jm:673 q: 4.7 4.6 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1440 f: 0.000 pm:65389 jm:673 q: 4.8 4.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1536 f: 0.000 pm:66404 jm:673 q: 4.7 4.5 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1632 f: 0.000 pm:66852 jm:673 q: 4.4 3.9 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1728 f: 0.000 pm:66968 jm:673 q: 4.1 3.6 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1824 f: 0.000 pm:67777 jm:673 q: 4.0 3.3 XES VY WET WOLF - t:1920 f: 0.000 pm:68468 jm:673 q: 3.8 3.0 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2016 f: 0.000 pm:69283 jm:673 q: 3.6 3.0 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2112 f: 0.000 pm:69429 jm:673 q: 3.6 3.0 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2208 f: 0.000 pm:69440 jm:673 q: 3.4 3.0 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2304 f: 0.000 pm:69862 jm:673 q: 3.4 2.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2400 f: 0.000 pm:69900 jm:673 q: 3.3 2.7 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2496 f: 0.000 pm:70273 jm:673 q: 3.3 2.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2592 f: 0.000 pm:70463 jm:673 q: 3.2 2.7 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2688 f: 0.000 pm:70465 jm:673 q: 2.9 2.3 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2784 f: 0.000 pm:70508 jm:673 q: 2.7 1.9 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2880 f: 0.000 pm:70751 jm:673 q: 2.7 1.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:2976 f: 0.000 pm:71032 jm:673 q: 2.7 1.8 XES VY WET WOLF - t:3072 f: 0.000 pm:71119 jm:673 q: 2.4 1.4 XES VY WET WOLF - t:3168 f: 0.000 pm:71137 jm:673 q: 1.9 1.0 XES VY WET WOLF - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:58:16 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3cM1-00035h-OH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:58:15 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3cM1-00035I-KT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:58:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3cLf-0000Es-Fh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:57:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3cLf-0000Ej-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:57:51 +0000 Received: from mxout02.versatel.de ([212.7.152.119]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3deW-0005ag-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:21:43 +0000 Received: from mx03.versatel.de (mx03.versatel.de [212.7.146.3]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0UGvPAa007173 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:57:26 +0100 Received: from localhost ([62.214.100.62]) by mx03.versatel.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0UGvPu3010630 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:57:25 +0100 Received: from i577a6f7f.versanet.de (i577a6f7f.versanet.de [87.122.111.127]) by webmail.versatel.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:57:25 +0100 Message-ID: <20060130175725.gm2dtlfqhhmo8kwo@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:57:25 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@versanet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c62276$fdd02600$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000901c62276$fdd02600$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: LF: diversity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all, pse see your comments pse. regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:16:13 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3cdP-0005Ur-PX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:15:22 +0100 Message-ID: <43DE49B6.3080405@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:15:34 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20060129234547.19166.qmail@web25409.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060129234547.19166.qmail@web25409.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: LF: Thank you for the HELL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Brian, Thanks for the info, and for the QSO too. I noticed your HELL signal earlier, while being called from HA6PC, but couldn't decode it completely, so answered Gyuri's call first. Then, during my TX-overs during the QSO with Gyuri, I looked at G3YXM's grabber (to study my own signal), and noticed the other caller (in Hell mode then) was you. But I unfortunately your signal was too weak (in my local QRM) to have a 2-way QSO in Hell ... QRSS3 from your side was "M" copy then (btw it was very close to a Loran-ish line). The PSK31 transmission was a long "talking" QSO with DF6NM, during which we discussed a lot of technical questions about antenna currents during frost, digital signal processing, noise reduction techniques, and some other topics (thanks Markus) ! Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD / DK4U JO42FD . brian hodgson schrieb: > DK4U de G3YKB > > Hi Wolf - > > Thank you for the QRSS/HELL QSO this morning. Copy here was very good. > Could you see anything of my HELL signal? > > Later on your PSK31signals looked to be 100% - best I've seen from you > but it is a long time since I could read German !! > > Great to see so much HELL and PSK on LF in one morning !! > > Regards - Brian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:21:36 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3fWk-0007Gn-I4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:21:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3fWk-0007FR-DF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:21:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3fVs-0000kB-HU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:20:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3fVr-0000k2-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:20:35 +0000 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3gCo-00080o-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:05:01 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.d7.35909e0b (18555) for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:16:39 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:16:38 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: TA 30 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Jay and LF,

very pleased to find your report and pics, thank you very much again. Not sure about the mystery signal on 136317.5, most likely G3XDV? There were blue hints on my grabber screen, but this time we were all transmitting during the first part of the hour. Nice TA signals appeared here from XGJ (very strong), XKO and VO1NA (strong but chopped up as well).

WX still cold and calm here, so I guess I'll take the odd half hour shift tonight.

Greetings, and good luck to veryone

Markus


In einer eMail vom 30.01.2006 12:37:34 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Some static...signals up and down. CT1DRP DL2HRE, DF6NM and mystery signal...

http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html

Jay, W1VD



 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:33:29 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3fiK-00077Q-Uf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:33:29 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3fiK-00076p-O3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:33:28 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3fi6-0000qE-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:33:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3fi6-0000q5-13 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:33:14 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3gP4-00084p-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:17:39 +0000 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006013020322801400gg2uje>; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:32:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c625de$9f38b920$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:49:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: TA 30 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Markus
 
Yes...I received word from Mike that the mystery signal was XDV...it's always interesting trying to identify the unexpected signals. I'll be in receive mode again tonight...there are some thunderstorms over SE US so static may be a limiting factor.
 
Jay   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TA 30 JAN 06

Hello Jay and LF,

very pleased to find your report and pics, thank you very much again. Not sure about the mystery signal on 136317.5, most likely G3XDV? There were blue hints on my grabber screen, but this time we were all transmitting during the first part of the hour. Nice TA signals appeared here from XGJ (very strong), XKO and VO1NA (strong but chopped up as well).

WX still cold and calm here, so I guess I'll take the odd half hour shift tonight.

Greetings, and good luck to veryone

Markus


In einer eMail vom 30.01.2006 12:37:34 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Some static...signals up and down. CT1DRP DL2HRE, DF6NM and mystery signal...

http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html

Jay, W1VD



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:01:06 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3ixF-0002SQ-Hr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:01:06 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3ixF-0002SC-D8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:01:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ivt-0001JN-Qy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:59:41 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ivt-0001JE-DG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:59:41 +0000 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3kEs-0002OB-5m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:23:40 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.20c.117ed27e (4214) for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:59:10 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <20c.117ed27e.3110024e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:59:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: diversity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Uwe,

judging from the identical frequency scales, it looks like your two receivers are in phase synchronism. You could then try SpecLab's Colour-DF setting and get some interesting results. For a first experiment, probably the "two loops on separate inputs" antenna option (which does not require an RF phase shifter) will work best.

73
Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 30.01.2006 17:58:22 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt uwe-jannsen@versanet.de:

<http://home.versanet.de/~uwe-jannsen/two.htm>

your comments pse.


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:09:37 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3qa0-0005kK-PK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:09:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3qa0-0005jn-Cs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:09:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3qZC-0002LZ-DV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:08:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3qZB-0002LQ-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:08:45 +0000 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3rGP-0003op-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:53:26 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-39-82-255-63-72.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.63.72]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C2AFB4F288 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:08:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:08:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010004050500030808070605" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010004050500030808070605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello all , on the list !
 
The last night copy TA beacon :
 
02:00 to 03:00  XGJ
05:00 to 06:00  NA , XKO
06:00 to 07:30  NA
 
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(helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3sQq-0002fR-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:08:16 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3tk2-0007fD-3z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:32:25 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:11150 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3sQa-000A4l-6v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:08:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c6264e$3724c8e0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:07:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 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1F3sYi-0002ly-Vs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:16:25 +0000 Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.193]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3tFz-0004jU-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:01:08 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:11155 helo=pcroelof) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3sXS-000BB4-Bj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:15:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:15:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070007020403090509090609" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070007020403090509090609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, Last night I tried ARGO. The band started very noisy, but I got captures of WD2XKO and WD2XGJ. VO1NA appeared later. I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise to compare the signals against and hence should work better with a (relative) wider bandwidth. At present, I am using a 12 Hz bandwidth and both programs seem to work fine. Can anyone shed some light on this? 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esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3ssa-0008Hw-5y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:36:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ssB-0002tP-OO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:36:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ssB-0002tG-Ak for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:36:31 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3uBN-0008B6-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:00:40 +0000 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-39-82-255-63-72.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.63.72]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id AB586950B for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:36:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002201c62652$295a5f00$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <001901c6264e$3724c8e0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:36:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof , Good capture, I think that it is to 06:00 UTC at the time of the end of the grayline ? my rig : loop 2m x 2m 16 spires and HM receiver 73 qro Jean-Pierre ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: LF: Re: TA > Hello Jean-Pierre, > > This is how it looked on my ARGO screen. > > 73s Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:27 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3sv0-0004I9-HP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:27 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3sv0-0004Hl-7G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3suo-0002xU-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3sun-0002xL-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:39:14 +0000 Received: from ncc7.infomail.es ([195.235.39.18] helo=infomail.es) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3tc1-0004t6-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:23:57 +0000 Received: from joan ([172.16.101.254]) by infomail.es (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #1138703751.009590001; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:35:51 +0100 Message-ID: <001201c62652$1de4b760$05001aac@joan> From: "Joan Morros" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:35:55 +0100 Organization: lleida.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-imss-version: 2.034 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:35.78260 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Infomail-Id: 1138703751.03BF010A81105E.23751 Subject: LF: strong XGJ signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090008090807030200020403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090008090807030200020403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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With the same poor local conditions as sunday, but a good propagation : NA : abt 0300 ==> 0530 UTC, then 0700 ==> 0730 UTC ; XGJ : abt 0215 ==> 0300 UTC Best 73 to all ! 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Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:35:02 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3tmo-0007eA-4N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:35:02 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3tmn-0007Yo-HH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:35:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3tmB-0003IB-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:34:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3tmA-0003I2-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:34:22 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.200.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3v5L-0000Fm-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:58:33 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <200601311133530140021s3ae>; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c6265a$3963ed00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:33:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: TA 31 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) High static levels...CT1DRP, DF6NM and G3XDV received. http://www.w1vd.com/gallery2006.html Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:40:59 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3tsX-0002xU-0m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:40:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3tsW-0002uI-Ml for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:40:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ts4-0003OX-F3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:40:28 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3ts3-0003OO-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:40:27 +0000 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3uZK-0005Bp-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:25:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 635 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2006 11:40:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.118.50 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2006 11:40:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c6265b$200adca0$67b0fea9@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:15:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, I dont think ARGO "needs" noise, I think it would be fairer to say that the noise should be used to set the "theashold levels". ARGO is very sensitive and it only requires an increase in signal strength of about 4 dB to go from "nothing seen" to "O" report signals. Thus I normally set the sensitivity to show a little "snow" on the screen.....I often saw 30% but that is just a feeling, you need to imagine what a weak signal will look like amongst that noise. There is always the possiblility that added noise can enhance signal visibility by pushing the level over the next digitisation threshold occasionally. If one sets it up for a totally dark screen you may be set too far below threshold to detect a weak signal. As far as RX bandwidth is concerned I find that it makes little diffference if the band is clear of big signals. I have experimented with weak locally injected signals and the IF bandwidth makes no difference to the ease of detection of signals at or around the noise level. If there are strong relatively local signals then it helps avoid cross-mod problems to use a narrower filter. I use a pair of AOR 7030s and both have Collins 300Hz filters installed. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Roelof Bakker To: Sent: 31 January 2006 10:15 Subject: LF: T/A JAN 31 > Hello all, > > Last night I tried ARGO. > The band started very noisy, but I got captures of WD2XKO and WD2XGJ. > VO1NA appeared later. > > I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise to > compare the signals against and hence should work better with a (relative) > wider bandwidth. > At present, I am using a 12 Hz bandwidth and both programs seem to work > fine. > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Thank you in advance, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:05:23 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3w8E-0003dF-VR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:05:23 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3w8E-0003aO-Kv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:05:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3w7M-0003nE-Di for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:04:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3w7L-0003n5-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:04:23 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3woe-0006AJ-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:49:11 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060131140335m1300nm90le>; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:03:36 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:03:35 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:03:35 +0000 Message-Id: <013120061403.10011.43DF6E370004D2880000271B22058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: strong XGJ signals X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Juan, Edu, Many thanks for the nice XGJ capture! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Joan Morros" > > Hi, > > "O" copy XGJ last nigth > > Receiver in JN01HO > > Bye > Juan, EA3FXF > Edu, EA3GHS > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:08:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wBT-00066C-Mk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:08:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wBT-00065i-J8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:08:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wBF-0003r4-VY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:08:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wBF-0003qu-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:08:25 +0000 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3xUV-0001pg-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:32:38 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3wA1-0000bf-01; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:07:09 +0100 Received: from oben (bHLEXOZTgeLYnrN+feedVt4MH0laQonVDaSy+BKJ-q8huF0ZASBco5@[84.178.229.232]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1F3w9h-0AFU1Y0; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:06:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c62672$59053ac0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:26:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: bHLEXOZTgeLYnrN+feedVt4MH0laQonVDaSy+BKJ-q8huF0ZASBco5 X-TOI-MSGID: 68877e0f-9b98-4cb4-b308-8dc1fcf98f6f Subject: LF: Re: T/A JAN 31 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Roelof and group, in my location - JO40LE - close to Mainflingen -DCF - I had to increase BW for better rx-performence. The noise was caused by databursts from that nearby commercial LF-TX. Narrow band and "good" shape-factor in the IF-Filters meant tendency to ring. We are in the time-domain with it. IF-filters with Gaussconfiguration prooved to be much more useful in this my case. Facit: the more steady the noise, the more narrow the BW can be choosen. But yet, never seen any TA so far. We work on it. Best regards, Peter, dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: LF: T/A JAN 31 > Hello all, > > Last night I tried ARGO. > The band started very noisy, but I got captures of WD2XKO and WD2XGJ. > VO1NA appeared later. > > I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise to > compare the signals against and hence should work better with a (relative) > wider bandwidth. > At present, I am using a 12 Hz bandwidth and both programs seem to work > fine. > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Thank you in advance, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:27:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wTj-0000t8-7O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:27:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wTj-0000sV-3f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:27:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wTL-00041C-JA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:27:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wTL-000413-4x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:27:07 +0000 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3xmY-00021E-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:51:20 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3wS5-0000Ky-03; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:25:49 +0100 Received: from HW1 (bVBRMrZewe0kZcHInydOzPq1hS7WsR1ctllh-FY5qbjCKyR65Xe9Qg@[84.133.89.110]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F3wRv-1krANk0; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:25:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:25:38 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1852863685.20060131152538@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bVBRMrZewe0kZcHInydOzPq1hS7WsR1ctllh-FY5qbjCKyR65Xe9Qg X-TOI-MSGID: 0f31f857-1b8e-4a43-bb7b-ae2122d692e7 Subject: LF: TA Jan, 30th/31st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Again very strong T/A signals overnight. Early copy of WD2XGJ started about 21:00. After a short fade about 22:30 the signal was very strong until 03:00 Traces of VO1NA 20:00-22:00 probably then off. Back with a long dash about 23:30 and than the usual strong QRSS30 and 5wpm signal until 08:30. It looks here that WD2XKO started about 23:30 with a very strong signal until about 04:15. After 04:15 weaker, last trace about 06:40. Captures: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:46 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wbg-0000Fj-0E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:46 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wbf-00007s-A7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wb5-00046X-Jd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wb5-00046O-7N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:07 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3xuI-000267-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:59:20 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09914C869 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:34:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ca28 [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:34:12 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net ca28 X-USANET-MsgId: XID311kaEoIm2522X02 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.153.110] by ca28 (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 773kaEoIJ0053M28; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:34:09 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.153.110 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <43DF7562.4030002@usa.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:34:10 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID773kaEoIk0053X28 Subject: Re: LF: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Roelof Bakker wrote: > > I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise to > compare the signals against and hence should work better with a (relative) > wider bandwidth. Roelof, I don't know about Speclab, maybe Wolf will comment about it. What Argo does is to convert signal strength to brightness on the screen not in a way related to the absolute magnitude of the signal, but rather to the ratio between it and the background noise, which is evaluated using the quartile technique. The relation between magnitude and brightness is non linear, being subject to a gamma stretching, similar in concept to the gamma correction used in Photoshop or in Paint Shop Pro when dealing with pictures. The Contrast slider just adjusts the value of gamma. The plus side is a good sensitivity, as Alan pointed out. The drawback is that an increase of the noise level (as during static crashes) affects also the brightness level of the signal trace. I have some ideas (yet to be tested) on how to overcome that, and maybe they will be implemented in the next overhaul of Argo, as soon as another project will be completed. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:41 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wdX-0007Y3-Mu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:41 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wdX-0007T0-F8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wdG-00049Q-WE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wdG-00049H-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:37:22 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3xwW-00027B-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:01:35 +0000 Received: from 88-106-169-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.169.62]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2006 14:36:55 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HAGT/3kOHPyg Received: from 88-106-169-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.169.62]:2381 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F3wco-000Bmr-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:36:54 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:36:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA overnite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, Just checked my overnite captures & XGJ XKO & VO1NA all showing slight "dog boning" at their various peeks, I think this is the strongest I have seen TA signals. Just after 0000z my local noise completly stopped (next doors tv I think?) & left it quiet all nite. Recieving using 14mtr TX vert. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:44:12 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wjm-0008I2-Db for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:44:11 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3wji-00088U-Ig for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:44:02 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wj8-0004K0-GD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:43:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3wj8-0004Jr-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:43:26 +0000 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3y2O-0002Dc-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:07:39 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F3whu-0001u2-01; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:42:10 +0100 Received: from HW1 (EZ5-irZFQe-23WzQC0oPUh7i+tDWi9jm5W24dM12B-KiHWe1SDPUwC@[84.133.89.110]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F3whV-0K6UhE0; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:41:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:41:44 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1465562953.20060131154144@t-online.de> To: dj9dw In-Reply-To: <000b01c62672$59053ac0$ee9bfea9@oben> References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> <000b01c62672$59053ac0$ee9bfea9@oben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EZ5-irZFQe-23WzQC0oPUh7i+tDWi9jm5W24dM12B-KiHWe1SDPUwC X-TOI-MSGID: ed05e5d9-ffcc-42f3-960a-24c084a55ea9 Subject: LF: Re: Bandwidth - was T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Peter, Roelof and group, during last summer I made a side by side test with 2 JRC NRD525 rx. One with 125Hz Inrad IF-filter and the other with the original JRC 300Hz IF-filter. At that time the band was very noisy due to T-storms. I saw nearly no difference on a QRSS3 screen, but on every slower screen the narrower Bandwidth performed much poorer. On the screens was much more noise visible. With the same filter both rx performed equal. No problems with the databursts of the DCF39 90km away from here with the wider 300Hz filter. 73 Hartmut > Hi Roelof and group, > in my location - JO40LE - close to Mainflingen -DCF - I had to increase BW > for better rx-performence. The noise was caused by databursts from that > nearby commercial LF-TX. Narrow band and "good" shape-factor in the > IF-Filters meant tendency to ring. We are in the time-domain with it. > IF-filters with Gaussconfiguration prooved to be much more useful in this my > case. > Facit: the more steady the noise, the more narrow the BW can be choosen. > But yet, never seen any TA so far. We work on it. > Best regards, > Peter, dj9dw > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roelof Bakker" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:15 AM > Subject: LF: T/A JAN 31 >> Hello all, >> >> Last night I tried ARGO. >> The band started very noisy, but I got captures of WD2XKO and WD2XGJ. >> VO1NA appeared later. >> >> I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise to >> compare the signals against and hence should work better with a (relative) >> wider bandwidth. >> At present, I am using a 12 Hz bandwidth and both programs seem to work >> fine. >> Can anyone shed some light on this? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:20:25 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3xIs-0008Pt-Lk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:20:24 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3xIs-0008Mg-GI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:20:22 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3xII-0004VP-St for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:19:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3xII-0004VG-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:19:46 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc13.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3xzc-0006rl-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:04:35 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter15.comcast.net ([204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060131151858m1300nmrcpe>; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:18:58 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by rmailcenter15.comcast.net; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:18:57 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb lf reflector Cc: LWCA LF Reflector Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:18:57 +0000 Message-Id: <013120061518.24398.43DF7FE1000B4E3B00005F4E22058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: XGJ X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello the list, Many thanks for all the reports last night from Hartmut, Jean-Pierre (F5YG), Juan, Gary, and Roelof (Hope I didn't miss anyone!) As many of you have noted the signal dropped off at 03:00 UTC. At 04:00 I noticed XGJ was very weak on the W3EEE 'grabber'. I went downstairs to the radio shack to investigate. The antenna current (measured at 50 ohms) was less than 100 mA ! It should be approximately 5 Amps from the Decca PA. I checked the Decca on a dummy load and it was ok. I tried the smaller transmitter and noticed a very high SWR. I went out and looked at the ATU, flashlight in hand. The secondary of the toroidal step down transformer had arced and burned through the insulation. I believe that the very high humidity played a part in the breakdown of the insulation. I will have a look at the transformer today and may be able to repair it if the toroidal core is not damaged. I am hopeful that the core is o.k. since impedance measurements showed no change and I was able to run the 250 watt transmitter into the antenna with a low swr after a period of time (after the tuner cooled down). I will of course use better insulated wire for the high voltage! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:55:01 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3xqO-0000Ou-AI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:55:01 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3xqN-0000OE-Tl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:55:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3xq4-0004gS-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:54:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3xq3-0004gJ-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:54:39 +0000 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3yXQ-00072r-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:39:29 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0VFsTos007127 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:24:29 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id k0VFsTDE004786 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:24:29 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id k0VFsT9i023952; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:24:29 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:24:28 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1852863685.20060131152538@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <1852863685.20060131152538@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Jan, 30th/31st Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Group, Thanks to G3NYK, PA0RT, F1AFJ G4WGT and Hartmut for the signal reports. It seems conditions are quite good, just as Alan has reported. Hartmut's reception of the 5WPM seems very good -- levels must be near audible. I hope to increase my power tonight and expect to call CQ on Friday at 2300 UTC. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:30:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yOu-0005Ce-9M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:30:42 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yOt-0005Ag-7F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:30:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yO0-0004tD-VC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:29:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yO0-0004t4-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:29:44 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3zhF-0003Zm-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:53:59 +0000 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.10]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id k0VGPUoT007172 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:25:31 GMT Message-ID: <003901c62682$55767b70$0a8cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:21:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: Re: LF: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) A professional programmer who spent somef time working on waterfall palettes for signal analysis once suggested that, it order to see signals separated from the background by only a small amount, a waterfall should change brightness rapidly and colour more slowly, even if some brightness levels repeat over the dynamic range. Working on the basis that most interest is in weak signal resolution, and stong ones can be left to fend for themselves, he suggested a palette that ran from dark blue, through red to yellow then back via green and orange to black. (Or other variants like this) . A bit weird but brightness as perceived by the eye is then peaked part way up the signal range. The dark blue could then be placed at the noise level, so the normal noise spikes averaging 2 - 4dB above mean, say, would push towards red (also a dark colour), but signals at 6 - 10dB S/N would show clearly as bright centre optical-spectrum green/yellow. Really strong sigs would be orange/black but would not be hidden as they'd have brightly coloured sidebands making them stand out against their own background. I never tried it - but may do now the idea has been awakened. Andy G4JNT www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ >in a way related to the absolute magnitude of the signal, but rather to the ratio >between it and the background noise, which is evaluated using the quartile >technique. The relation between magnitude and brightness is non linear, being >subject to a gamma stretching, similar in concept to the gamma correction >used in Photoshop or in Paint Shop Pro when dealing with pictures. >The Contrast slider just adjusts the value of gamma. >The plus side is a good sensitivity, as Alan pointed out. The drawback is that >an increase of the noise level (as during static crashes) affects also the >brightness level of the signal trace. I have some ideas (yet to be tested) on >how to overcome that, and maybe they will be implemented in the next overhaul >of Argo, as soon as another project will be completed. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:59:03 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yqL-0001gv-Gm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:59:03 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yqL-0001Zl-As for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:59:01 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yps-00053v-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:58:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yps-00053m-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:58:32 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F3zXG-0007Oh-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:43:23 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.242] (helo=mx9.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1F3ypp-0004L5-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:58:29 +0100 Received: from p5486af4f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.175.79] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx9.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #21) id 1F3ypp-0002Cb-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:58:29 +0100 Message-ID: <43DF973B.3090807@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:58:35 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> In-Reply-To: <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Subject: Re: LF: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Roelof, Neither ARGO nor SpecLab nor any other FFT-based spectrum display software needs noise. Without AGC, the colour of a pixel in the waterfall only depends on the strenght of the carrier (except of course for the radio-direction finder mode, which you see on DF6NM's grabber). Things may are a bit more complicated if you have an AGC (which may cause the colour to get weaker in the presence of strong noise, even if the strength of the "wanted" signal remains the same). Best regards, Wolf . Roelof Bakker schrieb: > Hello all, > > Last night I tried ARGO. > The band started very noisy, but I got captures of WD2XKO and WD2XGJ. > VO1NA appeared later. > > I have heard rumours that ARGO and SpecLab need some background noise > to compare the signals against and hence should work better with a > (relative) wider bandwidth. > At present, I am using a 12 Hz bandwidth and both programs seem to > work fine. > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Thank you in advance, > > Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:35 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yzY-0007a8-Sl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:35 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F3yzY-0007Yz-ML for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yzF-0005BK-40 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F3yzE-0005BB-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:12 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F40IT-0003x5-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:32:28 +0000 Received: from [194.97.55.242] (helo=mx9.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1F3yyv-0007fc-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:07:53 +0100 Received: from p5486af4f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.175.79] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx9.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.61 #21) id 1F3yyv-0007xI-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:07:53 +0100 Message-ID: <43DF9979.8030105@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:09 +0000 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003901c62682$55767b70$0a8cf8d4@standalone> In-Reply-To: <003901c62682$55767b70$0a8cf8d4@standalone> Subject: Re: LF: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Greetings all... Andy wrote: >A professional programmer who spent somef time working on waterfall palettes >for signal analysis once suggested that, it order to see signals separated >from the background by only a small amount, a waterfall should change >brightness rapidly and colour more slowly, even if some brightness levels >repeat over the dynamic range. Working on the basis that most interest is >in weak signal resolution, and stong ones can be left to fend for >themselves, he suggested a palette that ran from dark blue, through red to >yellow then back via green and orange to black. (Or other variants like >this) . A bit weird but brightness as perceived by the eye is then peaked >part way up the signal range. > >The dark blue could then be placed at the noise level, so the normal noise >spikes averaging 2 - 4dB above mean, say, would push towards red (also a >dark colour), but signals at 6 - 10dB S/N would show clearly as bright >centre optical-spectrum green/yellow. Really strong sigs would be >orange/black but would not be hidden as they'd have brightly coloured >sidebands making them stand out against their own background. I never tried >it - but may do now the idea has been awakened. > >Andy G4JNT >www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ > > > Thanks Andy - any volunteer among the SpecLab users who already realized this with the colour palette editor ? If so, I'd like to add it in the next release so others can try it out too ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:55 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F40Wj-0003G5-8K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:54 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F40Wj-0003FP-5V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F40Vs-0005Ru-RY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F40Vs-0005Rl-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:46:00 +0000 Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F41pC-0005Ew-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:10:17 +0000 Received: from ndb.demon.nl ([82.161.81.65]:11829 helo=pcroelof) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F40UP-000N4R-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:44:29 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c62696$5d2fa030$2201a8c0@pcroelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003301c6263d$8c89cee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <002101c6264f$35250bd0$2201a8c0@pcroelof> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:44:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: T/A JAN 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Alan, Alberto, Hartmut, Andy and Wolf, Thank you all. The picture is now perfectly clear, so to speak! I will stick to my 12 Hz bandwidth for the time being. Wolf, my receiver is a Wandel & Goltermann SPM-30 selective level meter, thus no problems with AGC. Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:47:50 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F41Tf-0007U5-Tj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:47:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F41Tf-0007OU-Mc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:47:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F41SV-0005f0-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:46:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F41SU-0005er-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:46:34 +0000 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F42ll-0005oc-HD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:10:52 +0000 Received: from 88-106-199-88.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.199.88]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2006 19:43:39 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AK4HALxM30OHQCg Received: from 88-106-199-88.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.199.88]:2129 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F41Pd-000NLc-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:43:37 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:43:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <43DF9979.8030105@freenet.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: LF: Colour Pallette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Andy, Wolf & All, I use the "Sunrise.pal" pallette & I would say the description below is possibly what Wolf was trying to acheive there. But now the gauntlet has been thrown down for the challenge. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Wolf DL4YHF Sent: 31 January 2006 17:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: T/A JAN 31 Greetings all... Andy wrote: >A professional programmer who spent somef time working on waterfall palettes >for signal analysis once suggested that, it order to see signals separated >from the background by only a small amount, a waterfall should change >brightness rapidly and colour more slowly, even if some brightness levels >repeat over the dynamic range. Working on the basis that most interest is >in weak signal resolution, and stong ones can be left to fend for >themselves, he suggested a palette that ran from dark blue, through red to >yellow then back via green and orange to black. (Or other variants like >this) . A bit weird but brightness as perceived by the eye is then peaked >part way up the signal range. > >The dark blue could then be placed at the noise level, so the normal noise >spikes averaging 2 - 4dB above mean, say, would push towards red (also a >dark colour), but signals at 6 - 10dB S/N would show clearly as bright >centre optical-spectrum green/yellow. Really strong sigs would be >orange/black but would not be hidden as they'd have brightly coloured >sidebands making them stand out against their own background. I never tried >it - but may do now the idea has been awakened. > >Andy G4JNT >www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ > > > Thanks Andy - any volunteer among the SpecLab users who already realized this with the colour palette editor ? If so, I'd like to add it in the next release so others can try it out too ;-) 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:33:30 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F42Bu-0002Kh-0o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:33:30 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F42Bt-0002Hy-NU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:33:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F42Az-0005pV-QV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:32:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F42Az-0005pM-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:32:33 +0000 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F43UJ-0006S7-MM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:56:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 9035 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2006 20:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.59.148?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.59.148 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2006 20:32:13 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [267.14.25/246]); Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:31:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c626a5$53662420$943b7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003901c62682$55767b70$0a8cf8d4@standalone> <43DF9979.8030105@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:31:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Colour palette, SNR, BW Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040704040602090005030100" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040704040602090005030100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > Thanks Andy - any volunteer among the SpecLab users who already realized > this with the colour palette editor ? > If so, I'd like to add it in the next release so others can try it out > too ;-) > > 73, Wolf DL4YHF . > > Dear Wolf, Andy, LF Group, Funnily enough, I tried something very similar with Spectrum Lab a while ago - the palette up_down.pal attached is more or less what Andy described. But I found the effect to be rather counter-intuitive, with strong signals "punching holes" in the waterfall display. I settled on having a progression blue-red-yellow-light green-white, as in the attachment jim.pal, which I have been happy with ever since. As far as RX bandwidth goes, I find quite a wide bandwidth is best with SpecLab. The dynamic range of sound card ADCs seems to be pretty good, and the limiting factor on strong interfering signals is what the receiver IF and audio channels can cope with. So as long as the IF/Audio/soundcard gains can be set so that nothing is driven into overload, there is no AGC action, and the noise level is still lower than the signals, QRM much stronger than the wanted signal can be present at the RX audio output without problems, and all filtering can be provided by the spectrogram program. With the RA1792 RX I usually use the 300Hz or 1000Hz bandwidths; it has a 150Hz filter too, but this worsens the effects of QRN. When a QRN impulse occurs, the RX is bound to be driven into limiting at some point, but with a wider filter, the duration of the overload is shorter, and has less effect on narrow-band signals displayed. This effect is even worse with the W&G SPM-19 level meter with 25Hz bandwidth - barely audible QRN seems to get magnified into great streaks on the spectrogram. I suppose it depends a lot on the impulse response of the individual filter. Most of the "visual modes" reception I am doing currently uses a "sound card RX", converting 135.7 -137.8kHz down to 10.7 - 12.8 kHz, and feeding this output directly into the sound card. All tuning is done by adjusting the Spectrum Lab frequency axis on the PC, and the audio bandwidth is fixed at about 3kHz, so the whole band is being fed into the sound card input all the time. It seems to work at least as well as a "proper" RX for tranatlantic reception, etc. The circuit is the one in the new edition of the RSGB radio communication handbook. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:20:49 +0000 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F44ZG-0001X3-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:05:47 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.ae.242f3c9 (1320) for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:20:39 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:20:39 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: TA 31 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jay and Group,

wow, third confirmation in a row - we must be lucky! Thanks very much once more for watching and reporting.

Thought I'd try something different tonight: got the stuff rigged up for ultraslow chirped HELL, 16 minutes for a callsign. 0.3 Hz bandwidth around 136318.5 fits snugly between DRP and OM2TW. Not that I have any realistic hope for a TA reception, but then, if we don't try we'll never know.

73 and all the best

Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

In einer eMail vom 31.01.2006 12:35:19 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

High static levels...CT1DRP, DF6NM and G3XDV received.


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:58:51 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F44SX-0004fZ-9O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:58:51 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F44SX-0004ab-3T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:58:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F44Rb-0006Nb-M9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:57:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F44Rb-0006NS-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:57:51 +0000 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F4597-00021b-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:42:50 +0000 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006013122573801100l0jtbe>; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:57:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c626b9$be5cdd00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c626ba$3f38d6e0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:57:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: LF: TA 31 JAN 06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Markus Thanks for the heads up...will keep an eye out. There's lightning associated with a storm off the Atlantic coast that affecting reception at the moment. Maybe we'll get lucky and the storm will dissipate early. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkusVester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: TA 31 JAN 06 Hi Jay and Group, wow, third confirmation in a row - we must be lucky! Thanks very much once more for watching and reporting. Thought I'd try something different tonight: got the stuff rigged up for ultraslow chirped HELL, 16 minutes for a callsign. 0.3 Hz bandwidth around 136318.5 fits snugly between DRP and OM2TW. Not that I have any realistic hope for a TA reception, but then, if we don't try we'll never know. 73 and all the best Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK In einer eMail vom 31.01.2006 12:35:19 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net: High static levels...CT1DRP, DF6NM and G3XDV received.