From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:35:10 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVqrW-0005LU-1p for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:35:10 +0100 Received: from mail4.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.78]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVqrV-0005L3-Ng for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:35:10 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail4.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9TDTabJ027427; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:34:20 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27034 for lowfer-14416503; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27030 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVqlz-0004pV-05; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:27 +0200 Received: from HW1 (r1sG2qZZoeGYV6BBtUXF9uCrezKZupyD0nNk8OY6aIFQjIuZl6GN0k@[84.133.77.24]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVqlx-1i6P0i0; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:24 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1279921513.20051029152924@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 28/29 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: r1sG2qZZoeGYV6BBtUXF9uCrezKZupyD0nNk8OY6aIFQjIuZl6GN0k X-TOI-MSGID: e87128b3-7bdc-444c-90a1-9c3152a13d9d Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Congratulations to John and Laurence completing the WOLF QSO last night. I captured only the WD2XES part at 01:00 UTC: t: 288 f:-0.059 pm: 2467 jm:894 q: -6.8 -5.5 XDW XES N SORRY - and the test just before the QSO about 23:40 UTC: t: 384 f:-0.010 pm: 2014 jm:705 q: -4.5 -4.9 WD2XES TESTING - I have still some rx trouble in that part of the band! Also strong VO1NA, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: (Sorry, failed after 08:00 UTC) http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVmmU-0002zq-7l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVmmU-0002zj-1S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVmll-0003Od-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:12:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVmlk-0003OU-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:12:56 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVnVv-0004PO-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:00:40 +0100 Received: from 212-139-36-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.139.36.15]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 10:11:49 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CABfTYkOGCwE X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,265,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="40826767:sNHT188139826" Received: from 212-139-36-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.36.15]:1065 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EVmkf-000N5H-Hd; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:11:49 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, XKO and NA signals still visible here in NW UK at 0900z using qrss60. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVFzy-0005sg-24 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVFzx-0005sV-Su for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVFyu-0008Ei-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:12:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVFyu-0008EZ-B1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:12:20 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVGiW-0007oH-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:59:30 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVFxt-000374-02; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:17 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XBVSNGZQQe-GWMrb8xAFe6A3wANxldIRqnsJ7OZBjmuWN5FpRPPFrY@[84.133.77.16]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVFxm-1jxLSC0; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:10 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9113913.20051028001110@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XBVSNGZQQe-GWMrb8xAFe6A3wANxldIRqnsJ7OZBjmuWN5FpRPPFrY X-TOI-MSGID: 1fecb4e9-9ffe-44a6-b213-3702672e4724 Subject: LF: Early TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) NPG is visible here since about 21:00. Now 22:00 UTC about 8dB above the noise. VO1NA is visible since 18:50 UTC and XKO since about 21:20 UTC. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:37:41 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EV7wp-0007Jn-Tb for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:37:41 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EV7wp-0007Ja-83 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:37:39 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9RDUdGc019522; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:35:15 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26304 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.198.54]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26297 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 204.127.197.111 (rmailcenter74.comcast.net[204.127.197.156]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005102713295701400t0il0e>; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:29:57 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.111; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:29:55 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: lowfer@lwca.org, "LW Wave" Cc: "Gary - G4WGT" , "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Subject: Re: [LW] XGJ Freq Shift? Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:29:55 +0000 Message-Id: <102720051329.9441.4360D653000B90BA000024E122073000330B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Gary, Thanks for the capture. Conditions have been pretty good lately. I'm aware of the drift. The dds synthesizer that I built uses a reference oscillator that is not temperature compensated. When I'm down in the basement radio shack/workshop I turn up the heat and the frequency drifts downward. When I'm done for the night I turn the heat back down and the frequency will drift upward. Sometimes I will 'manually correct' the frequency so I don't run into XES (1/2 Hz or less lower). Perhaps I could publish a chart on my web site that shows the temperature in the shack as a function of XGJ frequency :-) -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > Hi All, > > I seem to have recorded a slight shift in frequency on Warrens XGJ signal, > it occurred about 0045z (27/10/05) & moved back at about 0345z, the other > signals (XKO, NA & Loran lines) show no shift. Are you aware of this Warren? > & did anyone else see the shift? See attachment, its vertical so you can see > the comparison, the time line on right is 0100z. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:00:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EV3cI-00007Q-R2 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:00:11 +0100 Received: from mail14.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.28]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EV3cH-00006v-QD for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:00:10 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail14.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9R8tc5Z031782; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:58:23 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA08453 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA08449 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 212-139-60-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.139.60.217]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 09:53:14 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CABYwYEOGDQE X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,257,1125874800"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145"; a="39323787:sNHT1018006423" Received: from 212-139-60-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.60.217]:1205 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EV3VW-000GU3-PV; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:53:10 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LW Wave" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Subject: [LW] XGJ Freq Shift? Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050304070404030908060601" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050304070404030908060601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, I seem to have recorded a slight shift in frequency on Warrens XGJ signal, it occurred about 0045z (27/10/05) & moved back at about 0345z, the other signals (XKO, NA & Loran lines) show no shift. Are you aware of this Warren? & did anyone else see the shift? See attachment, its vertical so you can see the comparison, the time line on right is 0100z. 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1EUpM9-000441-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:46:33 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUqM8-0004y3-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:50:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 8640 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2005 17:46:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2005 17:46:18 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c5da55$e44f6150$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:51:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: XES WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) WD2XES will be running WOLF on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. All reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUfH3-00061x-HS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUfH3-00061n-Cz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUfG8-0002UX-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:59:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUfG7-0002UO-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:59:39 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUgFt-0001Dx-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:03:30 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051026065930.EQXH9973.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:59:30 -0600 Message-ID: <009e01c5d9fa$f8073340$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:00:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL off due to wind damage... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
We had a good blow tonight which damaged the top loading of the antenna.
 
TIL will be QRT until atleast Thursday night...
 
TX and other systems are fine but I will need time in daylight to conduct repairs.
 
73 Scott
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:43:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EURu2-000759-Ph for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:43:59 +0100 Received: from mail7.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.81]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EURu1-00074U-S2 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:43:58 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail7.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9PGbr2T018998; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:41:58 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21177 for lowfer-14416503; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21173 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005102516371111300sk3lbe>; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: <435E5F32.5070008@att.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:37:06 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LowFer LWCA , RSGB LF Subject: [LW] XKO antenna Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000503050804050005000204" Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000503050804050005000204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've recently modified the XKO antenna with an idea I got from ON7YD's antenna page: http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm#Tower Rik's page has a link to a patent number on this design but the link doesn't direct me to the patent. However I found the patent info here: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=3,984,839.WKU.&OS=PN/3,984,839&RS=PN/3,984,839 This design is suppose to cancel the effects of a grounded tower when it is located close to the vertical antenna. The antenna matches very well with the method used in the attached sketch. However I wonder if this is a proper way to put this idea to use. I'm wide open for any comments or suggestions. I don't claim to know what I am doing but there's no question that I'm having fun doing it! 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g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:30:54 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail15.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9P1PlKs007430; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:29:00 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28220 for lowfer-14416503; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f16.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.26]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28211 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:25:08 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:25:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XDW "issues" Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:25:08 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 01:25:08.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFC7FC30:01C5D902] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit XDW returned at 0117z 25th October. It had been off for an interdeterminate period. The fault was on a #0 copper lug connecting to one of the Ceramic feed thru'swhere the loop conductors are connected. This lug and is connection had gone "HR" and produced a lot of heat enough to melt insulation and finally cause an open circuit on the lugs itself and the feed thru nuts and bolts. With around 50A (49.5Amps) of aerial current it pays to keep everything very very tight. I replaced every nut and bolt which had become heat stressed and "dark" to be on the safe side. I rewired the 2T coupling loop, replaced the feed thru and reconnected and everything has come up fine with no changes in the loop tuning. For people asking about the Decca 5501 ruggediness - it has been running into an "open" circuit for the past period during this fault - Nice thing is that virtually no current is drawn from the PA in class "N" (N between D and E ((!)) in this fault condition and everything stayed cool. Currently running about 1.1Kw into the loop....Ill check everything coolish in an hour but I have a 3.30am start to catch a plane...Ill leave the gear on whilst Im away. Laurence kl1x/5 wd2xd2 137.775 staircase... em26aq ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:44:40 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETqS7-0006Pt-UF for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:44:40 +0100 Received: from mail14.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.28]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETqS7-0006PQ-Ip for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:44:39 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail14.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9O0gaxZ018052; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:44:02 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21301 for lowfer-14416503; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21088 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051024004148.HWVE28339.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:41:48 -0600 Message-ID: <013e01c5d833$dcc11420$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] DCF-39 into Mayne Is. & Vancouver... Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:42:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
DCF-39 been making a fine showing into Southern coastal BC...
 
Steve's busy working the 160m opening to EU...
 
TIL will be on the air at ~0100UTC in DXsine mode...
 
73 Scott
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSyI-0005iv-Ae for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSyI-0005im-51 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSy4-0002PD-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSy3-0002P4-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:03 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETTw4-0000km-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:42:14 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi92.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.97]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C3B7AD2; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001b01c5d761$918f14c0$6111f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> <002201c5d760$03929ee0$e9308351@Main> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:37:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF39 into VE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I'm seeinga fairly massive signal from them already tonight before sunset. Accordingly I will spark up on 137777.3 at QRSS120 for a few hours. 450W into the vertical. Ident will be "SL" Steve / VE7SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:11:56 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESd1I-0008L9-GS for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:11:56 +0100 Received: from mail6.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.80]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESd1I-0008Kh-7Y for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:11:56 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail6.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9KG7VC8026872; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:09:36 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27962 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27958 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EScvE-0006RR-02; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:40 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bjIZriZ18edVkqJ3iXn+8+MeU9sDn5qJrHFAVKJIuiWgYxSpQ5MdsL@[84.133.100.30]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EScuu-1h4siG0; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <348354992.20051020180519@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 19/20 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: bjIZriZ18edVkqJ3iXn+8+MeU9sDn5qJrHFAVKJIuiWgYxSpQ5MdsL X-TOI-MSGID: 8f44ee66-56a0-449f-8484-3e80c8cba81e Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good TA conditions last night. Captured WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO on good levels. The QRSS120 signal of VO1NA looks not so strong on the QRSS30 captures, but on the QRSS120 screen fully readable the whole night. On the QRSS120 screen I captured some traces in the 137.7752 range, but nothing readable. May be XDW. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES5zD-0005be-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES5zD-0005bN-3e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ES5xy-0000py-S5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:54:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ES5xy-0000pp-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:54:18 +0100 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ES6eK-0004PG-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:38:06 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051019045021.CGJT976.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:50:21 -0600 Message-ID: <005101c5d468$bcf9c520$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:51:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL startup delayed tonight... Now ON Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Carbon fibre and LF verticals DON'T mix... ZZZZZaaaapppp, crackle, SSSSnnnnaaaapppp.... Hmmm, the SWR sees odd...
 
Lucky for me a good friend dropped by shortly after sunset and we repaired the antenna by replacing the carbon fibre pole with an equal length AL one.  Now to do a post mortem... First indications in the dark reveal arc damage and a structural failure as a result...
 
TIL is back on as of 0445UTC in DXsine mode...QRSS120 slow
 
73 Scott
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:52:01 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES0JJ-0006hE-HP for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:52:01 +0100 Received: from mail3.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.77]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES0JJ-0006gk-5F for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:51:57 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail3.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9IMlv3I027933; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:50:30 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16253 for lowfer-14416503; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.198.43]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16248 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 204.127.197.115 ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20051018224700014009piqve>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:47:15 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.115; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:46:57 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Subject: [LW] WD2XGJ off for a while Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:46:57 +0000 Message-Id: <101820052246.10339.43557B610001D9150000286322007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit WD2XGJ will be off tonite, and possibly for a couple more days. This is being done for the following reasons: 1) Failure of the transmitter's cooling fan (sounds like a bad bearing). I have another fan which I will try. 2) Gives me the ability to 'borrow' the XGJ dds synthesizer for testing my other transmitter. 3) So that K2ORS can get on 75 meter AM without having to listen to the XGJ cooling fan or spurs from the 137kHz transmitter or the switching power supply used to power the G0MRF 137 kHz transmitter. WD2XGJ/K2ORS regrets any inconvenience that this change in operating schedule may cause. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERqyE-000212-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERqyD-00020a-S7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERqzo-0007nm-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:55:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERqzo-0007nd-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:55:12 +0100 Received: from bay102-f36.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.46] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERrfr-0007PY-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:38:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:54:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:54:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2005 12:55:00.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[264E26A0:01C5D3E3] Subject: LF: download from XE 14th 2300 MDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Report from San Jose del Cabo, Mexico 9-14th Oct (In spite of a busted PC) http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Heres the latest download above (which Im still working on) but signals seen here include XFX XGJ and XKO - think thats John XES on the faster blips on his channel. DCF39 was audible and looks real wide on Argo that night. The 12th was another good TA night but 13th was poorer with DCF39 just detectable on Argo. XGJ looks around >4100Kms away and as you can see XKO is putting out a potent signal and was visible from Dusk to dawn everytime I looked. Im searching other tapes and might have just snagged TIL but working in it.. Rig = FRG100, antennae is L400B LF Engineering E probe on quad magmount on small compact parked outside the front of a busy street in San Jose del Cabo EL52/53 dependant on how I parked the car. Audio recorded in Sony Digital 8 camcorder, High mountain ranges just 7 miles to the North - arrid desert. Im about 100 yards from the beach here but signals had crossed the small Baja peninsular and Sea of Cortez, rest of the signals were coming across the continental landmass.. Laurence XE/KL 1 X mobile....as was From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERhpu-0001rq-6s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERhpt-0001rg-Vc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERhpG-0006jC-DV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:07:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERhpF-0006j3-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:07:41 +0100 Received: from bay102-f24.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.34] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERil2-0001eC-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:07:26 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:07:14 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:07:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:07:14 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2005 03:07:14.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A308DC0:01C5D391] Subject: LF: digital recordings in Baja Mexico dl52/dl53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Welll I was suspicious that recording from a hi 8 digital camcorder an audio signal not even hard wired to the fr100b would produce poor results from the car parked near Highway 1 in Southern Mexico using an E probe in the roof -i However after looking at both in frequency resolution and quality and running Argo with two screens the results are manifestly "good" (hurrah!!) as I replay the first of the tapes tonight One screen is presently looking at dcf39 on 138.83 and giving good results within 0.03 Hz of nominal and Im seeing clearly just as it was live the bespoke dcf39 signature. Its at the moment below audible signal but s/n wise it looks good.... The other is open in the watering hole and is clearly showing XKO on what was my noizy first night of recording at 2245 PDT 12th from San Jose del Cabo...its going to be interesting to run the addtional 6 hours of tapes and see what turns up. Nice thing about digital recording on tape>>>> The first night was really noizy with Tstorms to my SE so hoping for better things as we progress. Laurence KL1X/5 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERfiG-0007uB-JJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERfiG-0007u0-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERfhs-0006Nf-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:51:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERfhr-0006NW-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:51:55 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERgdc-0001KY-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:51:37 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051018005146.KKLA18467.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:51:46 -0600 Message-ID: <008001c5d37e$34e21920$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:52:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL to remain in DXsine mode... 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TIL will remain in DXsine mode for the next few days.  Period 10minutes, amplitude ~0.1Hz p-p.  She's hanging around 137778.1Hz. Best viewed with ARGO QRSS120 Slow.
 
I'm running the beacon from local dusk to dawn 0100 - 1500UTC...
 
About 450W into my slightly improved vertical... Been getting reliable reports throughout NA for the last week or so...
 
It would be interesting if stations beyond NA had a look...
 
73 Scott
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:49 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERWOx-0000dM-Ku for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERWOx-0000as-7y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERWO6-00050d-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:54:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERWO6-00050U-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:54:54 +0100 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com ([206.191.0.217]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERXJb-0007Sp-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:54:23 +0100 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.214]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9HEslvE013265; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:48 -0400 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-129.nrtco.net [216.168.120.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9HEsigi005435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:46 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20051017101319.01c38e28@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:49 -0400 To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <004801c5d038$c38c3960$8d01a8c0@JKA> References: <004801c5d038$c38c3960$8d01a8c0@JKA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: AFRICAM Ver 5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Having noticed AFRICAM is vulnerable to sound card sampling rate errors, I added the ability to specify the exact (nearest integer) sampling rate. AFRICAM defines its bit times by counting samples, so if the actual rate was too far off nominal the program could not sync or hold sync. I am always amazed by how far off the actual sampling rate is for some (most?) sound cards. For example, I just recorded an audio file under Windows XP using Cool Edit, asking for 8000 samples per second. I input an 800.0 Hz sinewave synthesized from a crystal source, then measured the frequency of the 800-Hz tone in the recording. The actual sampling rate turned out to be 8100 s/s! AFRICAM defaults to the following nominal rates: SB16 or compatible : 8000 s/s ESS688 chip based : 8200 s/s Sigma-Delta board : 7200 s/s If you can measure the *true* sampling rate of your sound source and type it in, it will help considerably in establishing and maintaining proper sync. One way to get AFRICAM to run under Win-XP is to record an audio file off the air, like the original WOLF. The desired format is 8 bit unsigned (single precision) or 16-bit signed (double precision) MONO values of raw data sampled at say 8000 s/s. Cool edit can do this: select the raw data (.pcm) mode, and be sure the saved file name has an extension of .AUD. Then when you invoke AFRICAM, use the "DISK" command line parameter - which tells AFRICAM to take its audio from disk instead of trying to talk directly to a sound card or sigma-delta board connected to a serial port. That makes Win XP happy. You still get to type in the exact sampling rate at which the audio was recorded (it won't be 8000 unless you get real lucky). In a pinch, you can record a 16-bit MONO .WAV file at 8000 s/s and just change the file extension from .WAV to .AUD before passing it to AFRICAM. That way the first 40 or so words of the file (.WAV header) will be treated as audio samples when they are not, but it doesn't matter too much. Version 5.1 of AFRICAM is available from my web site: http://www.magma.ca/~ve2iq Good luck! Bill VE2IQ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:48 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERTxw-00060n-9o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERTxv-00060I-Mr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERTww-0004lR-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERTww-0004lI-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:42 +0100 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERUsN-0006F4-9T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:08 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ERTwp-00038o-03; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:35 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XYTXcGZCZe0tcb9Mk75EmDnE5bZom9qtbC8VIFit6rFmuxv6BFnWcQ@[84.133.95.214]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ERTwk-23bnA80; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:28 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <611142796.20051017141828@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XYTXcGZCZe0tcb9Mk75EmDnE5bZom9qtbC8VIFit6rFmuxv6BFnWcQ X-TOI-MSGID: eaa433c3-bdb8-4f09-ba19-cddc57fb6a56 Subject: LF: TA 16/17 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured good signals of VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA, not so strong last night, can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAH-0006Me-7k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAH-0006L5-3F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERGA9-0003IJ-Gf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERGA9-0003IA-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:25 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERGpe-00026W-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:18:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 58732 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2005 21:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.34.196 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2005 21:35:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c5d299$83a0a620$c4227ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "Lowfer \(LWCA\)" , "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:34:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Hartmutt's NPG plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Scott. the NPG plots from Hartmutt show and interesting point. The signal is starting to build at a time when the ground shadow is between 1000 and 1800km east of the transmitter. That means the 100km altitude level is not in darkness for about 3000km to the east. It suggest that in good conditions the signal can be launched into the darkness zone up to a hour of more before sunset. We have to remember that this is an east-west path and as such will be different to your Pacific path to Make and the boys at Quartz hill. However it does throw a lifeline to us in the UK suggesting that there may be more time available under favourable conditions. Thanks for flagging this up.....given its frequency slot I did not think we would be able to see it in Europe. It will certainly be interesting to find out how long the path does persist. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:19:45 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERD6n-0001j2-8w for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:19:45 +0100 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.83]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERD6m-0001ip-VF for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:19:45 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9GICRWJ022483; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:14:49 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00999 for lowfer-14416503; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.117]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00995 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 204.127.197.188 ([204.127.197.188]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005101618113901300oegome>; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:11:49 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.188; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:11:36 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Subject: [LW] WD2XGJ Web Page Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:11:36 +0000 Message-Id: <101620051811.13374.435297D80007BAE00000343E22092299270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks to Dex, WD2XGJ now has a webpage: http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:39 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQzCQ-0004ul-Bq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQzCN-0004to-Qh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQzBa-000115-3v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:27:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQzBZ-00010w-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:27:45 +0100 Received: from outbound01.telus.net ([199.185.220.220] helo=priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQzqi-0005Vj-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:10:22 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051016032347.WKUO26926.priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:23:47 -0600 Message-ID: <028901c5d201$20cf8b80$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:24:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF39 into Vancouver, BC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050109070504070709070602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050109070504070709070602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Finally after a year of trying DCF39 showed up here just as sunset occurred...  Then the neighbours light dimmers came on and wreaked the fun...
 
My calibration is alittle high as I had no loran lines to bring me in the last few tenths of a Hz. I ran the plot in ARGO's 60sec dot 'slow' mode
 
I used the TX vertical to make this reception...
 
73 Scott
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post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQjx7-0001UB-Dk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:11:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQjva-0006fI-IY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQjva-0006f9-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQkq2-00050i-GS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:08:38 +0100 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQjvV-0007qJ-00; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:09 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rfiWYTZDoe2JHGPxyp0uPbI2+9TU0SgjFtcosYwP-CfTRiMQ4LbMoL@[84.133.91.150]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQjvT-1QUztg0; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:05 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <152546786.20051015131005@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rfiWYTZDoe2JHGPxyp0uPbI2+9TU0SgjFtcosYwP-CfTRiMQ4LbMoL X-TOI-MSGID: 607f9267-0bdd-48cd-a2c5-5a3caa154a01 Subject: LF: TA 14/15 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) There was a lot of multipath fading last night. The noise raised about 2300 utc. Good peaks of XGJ and XKO. Lost "NA" when the noise raised until 0400. Then copied the signal until about 0600. >From the WD2XES Jason transmission starting 2230 I copied the first 4 "WD2XES" but no full callsign string after that. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQiAx-0002hi-8d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQiAx-0002hQ-3C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQiAK-0006Pv-FK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQiAJ-0006Pm-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:20 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQj4l-0004hs-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:15:41 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2005 10:17:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AAAAACFlUEOGCwEBAQEHCAIl X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,216,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="32213371:sNHT30662191" Received: from 212-139-45-153.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.45.153]:2165 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EQi7w-0003J7-8D; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:14:52 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA 14/15th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, Very weak XKO about 2300z then interference wipe out from 0000z to 0500z then weak XKO again to 0700z & weak XGJ 0630 to 0730 ish. SpecLab at QRSS30. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:31:55 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQULS-0000Ks-N5 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:31:55 +0100 Received: from mail5.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.79]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQULS-0000Kk-4J for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:31:54 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail5.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9EIMTVR003446; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:26:37 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13421 for lowfer-14416503; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13416 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2005 19:21:52 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,215,1125874800"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145"; a="40239891:sNHT276103590" Received: from 80-43-37-158.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([80.43.37.158]:1278 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EQUBi-0003FM-2A; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:21:50 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Subject: [LW] TA signals. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000106060501030404060402" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000106060501030404060402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, Heres my offering captured at 0500z this morning 14th. Looks like XGJ (top), XKO & a weak UNID a little lower. 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mail4.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.78]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQTxZ-0002gl-1t for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:07:13 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail4.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9EHn03I025654; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:06:00 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11767 for lowfer-14416503; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.74]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11759 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11899 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2005 17:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2005 17:48:22 -0000 Message-ID: <003801c5d0e8$0aaff160$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XES JASON Tonight Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:52:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) WD2XES will run in JASON Slow-Turbo mode tonight on 137.779 kHz, starting around 2230 UTC. When seen on a QRSS screen, it will show a cluster of 45 second dots +/- 0.2 Hz of the center frequency. Use JASON 0.99 software, available at http://www.weaksignals.com to decode the signal in real-time. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES http://www.w1tag.com ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:27:12 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQRSh-0005DJ-IH for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:27:11 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQRSh-0005Ci-3U for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:27:11 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9EFJVja002193; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:26:47 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27998 for lowfer-14416503; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27994 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQRL2-00061o-01; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:19:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rSKQREZCgevnwZouKpTBZtnZOk4NeYQkkQRtpyU6Rqt4UJlB7KwKs6@[84.133.116.115]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQRKo-1xH7K40; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:19:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:18:58 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1394747172.20051014171858@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 13/14 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000304080701080403070900" X-ID: rSKQREZCgevnwZouKpTBZtnZOk4NeYQkkQRtpyU6Rqt4UJlB7KwKs6 X-TOI-MSGID: 6a7920a6-924f-4f20-9feb-d811bc631d8a Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000304080701080403070900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Copied weak VO1NA, strong WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. For the first time I copied a DFCW10 signal from the US. A weak "XES" appeared here about 0130utc, just readable. See attachment. NPG was not so stong as the previous nights. 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+0100 Received: from mail10.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.84]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQBmD-0000YD-Ei for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:42:17 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail10.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9DMc9TR016953; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:40:32 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25476 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25471 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005101322372711100o1crpe>; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:37:31 +0000 Message-ID: <434EE1C4.7010806@att.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:37:56 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LowFer LWCA , RSGB LF Subject: [LW] DCF-39 Steep rise on W3EEE page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I don't think I have ever seen such a fast rise of DCF-39 at Steve's location so early in the evening. http://www.w3eee.com/ Dex ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:26:57 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4yt-0002N8-Va for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:26:57 +0100 Received: from mail5.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.79]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4yt-0002Mp-IV for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:26:55 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail5.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9DFHfYA008208; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:24:46 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15564 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailman1.ppco.com (mailman1.ppco.com [138.32.33.10]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15560 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bvlextrd01.conoco.net (bvlextrd01.conoco.net [138.32.33.139]) by mailman1.ppco.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j9DFHFeY024479 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:15 -0500 Received: from mail1.ppco.com ([138.32.31.56]) by bvlextrd01.conoco.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:14 -0500 Received: from bvlexbh2.conoco.net (bvlexbh2.conoco.net [138.32.45.42]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j9DFHDu09482; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bvlexmb1.conoco.net ([138.32.45.50]) by bvlexbh2.conoco.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:09 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Subject: Re: [LW] TA 12/13 Oct Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LW] TA 12/13 Oct Thread-Index: AcXQBbAd/nh9RRcXT3eNYzXig6Wp4wAA3ydm From: "Howell, L" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2005 15:17:09.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E344DF0:01C5D009] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by lwca.org id LAA15560 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) NPG very strong here too and is still audible at 0900 local (1500Z) I've digitally recoded 1.5 hrs of 137 KHz audio which ill add to tonight and will process when I get back to Oklahoma early next week. My PC continues to lay dead on the desk :-(( Laurence XE / KL 1 X mobile San jose del cabo, ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4Km-0007ys-Ap for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4Km-0007yZ-5z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ4KJ-0000a1-4m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:44:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ4KI-0000Zs-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:44:58 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ5Ds-00041E-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:42:26 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQ4KF-0003Nc-01; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:55 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VsIdwmZVge1CVSZlP8j25JbP73IrPpFhUcstZXPtvuc+Hbr9B7liZy@[84.133.78.30]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQ4K7-2GIF2O0; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:47 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:44 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <875614080.20051013164444@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VsIdwmZVge1CVSZlP8j25JbP73IrPpFhUcstZXPtvuc+Hbr9B7liZy X-TOI-MSGID: a337669e-619c-4445-9836-a37f2888f53a Subject: LF: TA 12/13 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Copied NA, WD2XES, XGJ and XKO. Again a very strong peak from NPG last night. Captures of NA, WD2XES, XGJ and XKO can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPiID-0002U3-OW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPiID-0002To-CP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPiHX-0007LN-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:12:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPiHX-0007LE-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:12:39 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPivM-0000DO-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:53:54 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EPiGR-0003uv-00; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:31 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SsYpVEZXZeqVqdcDDvCJzUKifYSKFJv671Z+muKgo9A1u6lBjinjr2@[84.133.66.220]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EPiGD-0AidCy0; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:15 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <98704892.20051012171115@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SsYpVEZXZeqVqdcDDvCJzUKifYSKFJv671Z+muKgo9A1u6lBjinjr2 X-TOI-MSGID: be7c7bfb-abc3-4cdf-9f6f-6bab86af61fb Subject: LF: TA 11/12 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good levels of NA, XGJ, XES and XKO last night. But there was a lot of fading on the signals especially on XGJ and XES. On 135.97514 was a very stong signal of NPG Dixon, CA nearly 10dB above the Lessay Loran C on 135.975337. So I was looking for a sinewave on 137.778 but nothing captured. Captures of NA, XGJ, XES and XKO can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here(today its working): http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPM6s-00049f-C7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPM6s-00048k-3p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPM6F-0004H5-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:31:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPM6F-0004Gw-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:31:31 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPMyq-00033k-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:28:00 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EPM5C-0004PG-01; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:30:26 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rSs1FEZp8egLzy2PyzApyLzXIS1idjw3-inygW6WeX8JrsS76Mqtwe@[84.133.71.89]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EPM4x-0MXBUu0; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:30:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:25:32 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1942115889.20051011172532@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rSs1FEZp8egLzy2PyzApyLzXIS1idjw3-inygW6WeX8JrsS76Mqtwe X-TOI-MSGID: 0af41429-d97a-4000-9d1a-2209260ab932 Subject: LF: TA 10/11 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Strong QRSS60 signal with some deeper fading periods from WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Copied only very few signs from the VO1NA QRSS120 signal. Sorry, no rx on 137.422 last night. Because I was already sleeping when the posting came via the reflector. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA on about 135.97514 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:50:29 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOzv2-00056I-Rm for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:50:29 +0100 Received: from mail8.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.82]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOzv2-00055z-E6 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:50:28 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail8.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9AFhJrp018210; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:47:07 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15440 for lowfer-14416503; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15271 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EOznh-0006Mo-02; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:53 +0200 Received: from HW1 (T53H5EZ1ZeVv+wSqstfPgXgYjwzkmebF7fzTO7Dju8YA7J7538dhYE@[84.133.123.151]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EOznQ-2ITG3E0; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:33 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1591780612.20051010174233@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 9/10 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: T53H5EZ1ZeVv+wSqstfPgXgYjwzkmebF7fzTO7Dju8YA7J7538dhYE X-TOI-MSGID: f9430321-ed23-42a1-addb-73994d64ad3d Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured some good peaks of "XGJ" and "XKO" but not long enough to copy the whole strings. Weak copy of "NA" in QRSS 120, too. "XES LOBO GUAPO" decoded from a soundfile started at 0200UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA with a longer strong peak during local dawn can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:11:49 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOcq4-00085c-QX for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:11:49 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOcq4-00085M-D5 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:11:48 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j99F6tdE018235; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:10:17 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13790 for lowfer-14416503; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.85]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13673 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EOclA-0005Pj-02; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:06:44 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Xd7Y4cZGZeT1QdmIpzO9zgAHhVTgCwJwlZRm0TKBSq6bhMQYbJAp4b@[84.133.88.82]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EOckx-1b2M6K0; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:06:31 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:06:36 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2310179734.20051009170636@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 8/9 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: Xd7Y4cZGZeT1QdmIpzO9zgAHhVTgCwJwlZRm0TKBSq6bhMQYbJAp4b X-TOI-MSGID: b441d390-6065-4f79-9ee8-937131ff4a4d Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Poor conditions last night. Copied a few "NA" strings from VO1NA and only some signs from "XGJ". Nil from XKO and XES WOLF. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENvqW-000660-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENvqV-00065S-I3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENvpy-0003WM-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:16:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENvpx-0003WD-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:16:49 +0100 Received: from mail.hvi.net ([64.72.88.19] helo=wombat.hvi.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENwgh-0007ob-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:11:20 +0100 Received: from Laptop (unverified [66.6.181.30]) by wombat.hvi.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.340.3) with SMTP id ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <158901c5cb62$d3e2d920$02be0642@Laptop> From: "RJ Mattson" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: "rsgb lf reflector" References: <100720051216.18488.4346671F000E96000000483822007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:16:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Excel of Loops Re: [LW] Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks Warren I am looking for an Excel version for multi-turn receiving loops. Anything out there for Excel? bob...w2ami ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" Subject: [LW] Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software >I have'nt tried it, but I came across some software for modelling ferrite >loop antennas: > http://home.att.net/~ray.l.cross/murod_mm/ > Thought that this might be of interest to the group. > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:45 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENsFG-0007Rb-Rh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENsFG-0007RJ-Lm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENsEs-0002Hc-6Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENsEr-0002HT-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:17 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENsqq-0008FG-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:05:35 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005100713260201300jsid1e>; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:26:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c5cb44$455f1100$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:37:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: EU > US TA window Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
TA enthusiasts
 
Further to yesterday's conversation concerning the EU > TA window...
 
Here's a capture showing the extent of NPG, Dixon CA modulation products in the northeast.
 
 
 
There are also 3 unid signals just below 136.000 that are present day and night at this location...they appear to be eminating from west of here and have been there steady for at least the last couple weeks.
 
 
 
Then there are the ever present loran lines...(thanks to John/LWCA for this info)
 
 
I'll be happy to run captures of any proposed frequency ranges and post them for viewing.
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENrAH-0000gu-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENrAG-0000gi-TA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENr9g-0001p6-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:16:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENr9d-0001ox-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:16:49 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENs0A-0006W8-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:11:13 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.115 ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20051007121633014009221be>; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:16:34 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.115; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:16:32 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:16:32 +0000 Message-Id: <100720051216.18488.4346671F000E96000000483822007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I have'nt tried it, but I came across some software for modelling ferrite loop antennas: http://home.att.net/~ray.l.cross/murod_mm/ Thought that this might be of interest to the group. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:44:50 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENV7C-0003aQ-0j for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:44:50 +0100 Received: from mail13.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.27]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENV7B-0003Zs-N2 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:44:49 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail13.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j96CXsFZ012004; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:39:02 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07151 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.117]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07147 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005100612332201300jm7lve>; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:33:22 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Subject: [LW] VA7LF Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:44:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Somewhat lower static levels...better condx...
 
 
 
additional reception after sun up
 
 
Nice signal for a 4000 km all overland path.
 
Jay, W1VD
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENG0v-0007dN-1T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENG0u-0007d5-QJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENFzz-0005Gy-12 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:36:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENFzx-0005Gp-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:36:21 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENGpl-0005LH-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 22:29:56 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.75]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C26DB7834; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009a01c5c9ec$6947b8a0$4b11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: "R Vernall" , "Martin Mac Gregor, AScT" , "Sally Craig" References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:36:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040301080500030005000800" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040301080500030005000800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Too the wondering world It looked like it would be two nights in a row that we were shut-out to ZM2E but during the dawn twilight their signal suddenly rose out of the noise for one complete "O" copy of their call. More interestingly, the signal was heard on the big (quiet) vertical and nary a peep on the 10' loop. Not sure what that is all about yet. Reception time was from 1244Z through 1358Z. Please see the enclosed grab taken at 1404UTC. We noted what looked like the 'E' at the end of the sequence and stumbled over our sleepy eyelids and rebuttled 'VA7LF Z E' as the Sun started peaking through the clouds on the eastern horizon... We have also noted an interesting corellation between the tides and our impedance match. We now have a "HI TIDE" and a "LOW TIDE" tap which requires young TIL to scramble down the cliff with mountain goat-like nimbleness in the 0300 darkness and switch taps while I maintain vigilence by the fireplace in the shack :-). As a convenient 'visual' of our on-air status, we have also placed a 4' fluorescent bulb, vertically near the antenna which throws an eery glow over the entire area. I'm sure the several huge deep sea tankers going past us every night are wondering about the new and unmarked light station at Tily Point! This allows Scott to assume a horizontal polarization while monitoring the station during the wee hours... Some of the west coast ndb DXers have reported poor conditions to the south Pacific over the past two mornings but much enhanced condx to the north Pacific, Japan and Alaska. I'm not sure that there is too much corellation between what is heard in the ndb band and 2200m but it does seem that we have picked a period of rather dismal conditions towards ZL. The conditions we observed this morning with the noise dropping to near daylight levels seemed to directly correlate to sunrise over the US midwest where a nasty looking cloud of lightning strikes was occuring all night... Hmmmm... One more kick at the can tonight. 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2005 15:57:06 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAhd-0002tH-1z for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:57:06 +0100 Received: from mail8.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.82]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAhc-0002t3-IM for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:57:04 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail8.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j95EqSCp010270; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:56:05 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19333 for lowfer-14416503; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19329 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ENAcy-00084x-00; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:52:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <851569145.20051005165159@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" Subject: [LW] TA 4/5 Oct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: GMvkkcZ6geciU73jEr-+mUSddErUkflUgr0QWLjbkJ2HfcreVXF2rK X-TOI-MSGID: 9eacbb0a-caf7-45c9-a00b-a4ab3b210675 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) During local dawn I captured strong signals of WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. Only weak copy of the QRSS120 signal from VO1NA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:17:28 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN2al-0000DP-2J for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:17:27 +0100 Received: from mail7.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.81]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN2aj-0000Cy-TM for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:17:26 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail7.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j956DuoE030602; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:16:31 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04413 for lowfer-14416503; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from generation.lgisp.net (joseph.ncoldns.com [208.181.178.5]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04409 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.96]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 311EFB6DD2; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001901c5c973$ed192fc0$6011f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: [LW] VA7LF Vertical Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:13:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020308020800010307040001" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020308020800010307040001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is our tx antenna system. There is a 150' rising top load wire that cannot be seen as well as another 20' wire section down to the beach where it is fed. The piece in the photo is 85'. 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lYMQd3UH6VUfiEXrJVK8qDlR2pCB56jAxk8VP2hBdkgLg4rH1CR9yrvbGemfet6e6GyqT8i/ T+tQN0Fb9TNiv0T6Cr0ZPlpz/nmsquyLW5n+bJ/z0f8A76NFbcq7GfM+5//ZAAA= --------------020308020800010307040001-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:52:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN0Jz-0006FC-RJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:52:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN0Jz-0006Eo-Ni for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:51:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN0IB-00018X-26 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:50:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN0IA-00018O-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:50:06 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN0tD-00059m-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 05:28:28 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.73]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B27F3B87E4; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005301c5c95f$dae8e7a0$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:49:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: [LW] grabs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Bless you Laurence! All very much appreciated. Have a safe trip. 73 / Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMzUX-0001qs-80 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMzUW-0001qS-Th for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMzTs-0000qN-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMzTs-0000qE-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:08 +0100 Received: from bay102-f20.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.30] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN0JK-00010i-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:51:20 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:58:04 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:58:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.117.134] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:58:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2005 02:58:04.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF4D9D0:01C5C958] Subject: LF: grabs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit KL1X will leave the rx on 137 Khz - two argo screens updating evey three or so mins for the next week or so subject to black outs, moths, squirrels and my friendly groundhog. http://myweb.cableone.net/flow main web site KL1X http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Normal Americas' sub band (friendly to our VE friends!) http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/eu00000.jpg Carrying the ZL/VA test grabs "channel" XXX MOBILE REPORT XXX >From KL1X/ Mobile Oklahoma at 0250z - XKO is very strong (audible beneath the S9 qrm) and beginnings of XGJ perhaps If I compare this against the main array and TS870 Ive perhaps got 1dB s/n imovement on the large tx loop, thats all. The E probe i on the car however is within 200 ft of the loop and maybe getting a little ommpf coupling. All seems well for the XE LF rxpedition Good luck tonite chaps! Laurence em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:15 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5t-00084J-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5t-000845-Hk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx53-0000EC-EH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx52-0000E3-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:20 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMxg2-0004NZ-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:02:39 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.94]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 22309B6DC9; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <010a01c5c943$1b926d20$4e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Lowfer (LWCA)" References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <000801c5c8e2$1449eb80$8d01a8c0@JKA> <4342C47E.60507@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:24:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Steve . we really appreciate your grabs! All three captures are of us, and correspond to our tx time slots. Things were unusual last night in that it is the first time that we have ever seen absolutely nothing from down under...very discouraging. Hopefully condx will be better on the T-P path tonight. The unidentified lines that we saw last time (possibly Loran?) from the Pacific that always fade up and down along with the ZM2E signal failed miserably to materialize...it was a bad night. This qth is soooo quiet that domestic signals (Laurence / Dex) on the 100' vertical were just as good and sometimes better than on the big 10' loop. 73 VA7LF > Hi John, > > Some fragmentary 'Grabulator II' captures of ZM2E from last > night's run are on the website under 'Argo Gallery'. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > http://www.w3eee.com > > > > John Andrews wrote: > > It looks like Steve's Grabulator II caught part of the exchange, as well, > > but it's mostly off the screen at this point. > > > > John A. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMprY-0007EN-S5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMprY-0007ED-Ot for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMpqf-00074d-V2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMpqf-00074U-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:01 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMqfq-0007Vq-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:34:00 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMpqX-0001Xg-04; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:40:53 +0200 Received: from HW1 (EX-esmZSwer5NsP-2ARyd5SthHx0EqUapThJFs4yfgeDHaUkIIAJc-@[84.133.60.187]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EMpqI-0jgJkG0; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:40:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:32:56 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1454682823.20051004183256@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EX-esmZSwer5NsP-2ARyd5SthHx0EqUapThJFs4yfgeDHaUkIIAJc- X-TOI-MSGID: 604feb2d-9c92-4639-b11b-7740cc344ab0 Subject: LF: TA 3/4 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Again a night with good captures of XGJ and XKO. Started with traces from XGJ about 22:00utc and XKO about 22:30utc. There was a deeper fading period for XGJ 04:00-05:00 and for XKO 01:00-01:30. Fade out for both stations about 06:15. Only weak signal, mostly traces from VO1NA 20:30-06:00 utc. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMnvY-0003sv-1L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMnvX-0003sf-RX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMnuy-0006ce-5P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMnux-0006cV-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:19 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMoVr-0000jX-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:15:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 91083 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 14:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.218.132 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2005 14:37:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c5c8f1$1e1cbac0$84da7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" , "Lowfer \(LWCA\)" Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:36:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: XKO in UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all trawling through some very noisy captures centred on 137.777 last night I see I have an "X(?)KO" .The inter-element gap between the first dash and first dot are filled with noise otherwise a clear decode at around 0500z. I think this is the first time I have seen Dex. The screen was ARGO 30 sec dot slow. Warren was there as well and possibly John but not a decodable trace due to the noise. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:40:20 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMZut-0000fT-Fx for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:40:19 +0100 Received: from mail7.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.81]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMZut-0000fA-51 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:40:19 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail7.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j93NWX1x031991; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:36:20 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14767 for lowfer-14416503; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f38.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.48]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14761 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:31:58 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:31:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XE rx Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:31:58 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2005 23:31:58.0501 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5E51D50:01C5C872] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Laurence KL1X will be listening (well the receiver will be) between darkness periods 0105-1312z and a bit more : Dates Oct 8th-15th 05 Location : San Jose del Cabo, Baja coast, Pacific Mexico DL52/53 (dont know where Ill park the car) Rx : FRG100, L400b E probe and/or short resonant l/w - Comments - site doesnt look that bad with good paths to ZL and across the Baja Limited internet access so may be slow or nil response. Rx system will be able to run mulitple windows with Argo and WOLF - Ill be looking at the American window 137.775-137.7815 as a minimum and open to other windows/modes in the 136-138 Khz window - please email me direct anything you want me to look out for. The receiving site will probably be unmanned overnight as Ill be busy teaching the locals. During this time WD2XDW will be off (probably) Laurence ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMSzF-0005Z8-6i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMSzF-0005Yw-3Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMSwm-0003A0-F1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:13:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMSwl-00039r-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:13:47 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMTlV-0000Vd-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:06:16 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005100316133711100e5ch2e>; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:13:37 +0000 Message-ID: <434158C0.1010101@att.net> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:13:52 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LowFer LWCA , RSGB LF Subject: LF: WD2XKO Page now online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) A web page with info on WD2XKO is now available at: http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm Please advise of any correction, additions or improvements that should be made. 73, Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:02 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMHPp-0004OE-Qh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMHPp-0004Lq-Kd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMHPK-0001nP-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:54:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMHPJ-0001nG-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:54:29 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMHzf-0005VW-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:32:05 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.92]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C66A5B8AB8; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000501c5c7cf$555dde60$5c11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:02:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: VA7LF Testing ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The top-loaded 100' vertical antenna is up, along with the radials in the ocean and we will be testing the system tonight. Any reports welcome!! Frequency 137.778 QRSS 30 Ident is "LF" This is not the frequency that will be in use during the upcoming ZL-TP tests starting on Monday night. Power out at present is 400W which will be doubled for the tests. Steve VE7SL Martin VE7MM / G4EZG Scott VE7TIL South Pender Island / Tilley Point CN88 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:35:13 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELmCW-0000T2-HE for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:35:13 +0100 Received: from mail13.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.27]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELmCW-0000SF-67 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:35:12 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail13.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j91IW4LY032242; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:34:26 -0400 Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23766 for lowfer-14416503; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f9.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.19]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23742 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:31:25 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:31:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] wd2xdw WOLF 137.422 em26 Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:31:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2005 18:31:25.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[54BAC140:01C5C6B6] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Tstorms have abated for a while so back on 137.422 Khz WOLF 1Kw 1826z 1st Oct Laurence KL1X/5 Oklahoma em26aq ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:53:43 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWTY6-0004ql-Kb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:53:43 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWTY6-0004qU-HE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:53:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EWTXB-0007Xm-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:52:45 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EWTXB-0007Xd-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:52:45 +0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EWUZN-0007l4-Ip for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:59:06 +0000 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EWTWB-0001oU-00; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:51:43 +0100 Received: from dl4eau (VU7CwMZAZeMHwkLYVKXwmB+5Su3Paa0o3b-axcAyICAA2LefiNB6Ql@[217.245.118.159]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EWTVv-1ObIxs0; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:51:27 +0100 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <194761377.20051030223720@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: VU7CwMZAZeMHwkLYVKXwmB+5Su3Paa0o3b-axcAyICAA2LefiNB6Ql X-TOI-MSGID: 891faab6-f516-42a0-bb7e-66c92fa2f25e Subject: LF: AW: TA tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) calling cq in qrss3 137.7 now 73 tom dl4eau From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:38:34 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWKso-0002rM-U4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:38:34 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWKso-0002r3-N7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:38:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EWKrr-00072z-5k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:37:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EWKrq-00072q-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:37:30 +0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EWLcZ-0006NR-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:25:49 +0000 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EWKrn-0001NI-01; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:37:27 +0100 Received: from HW1 (Vsx6ZwZeoeCrbmOkTQet5gj4h3e1SytdONhURLZpPbNWqhwCsONBk6@[84.133.124.96]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EWKrj-1K5vH60; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:37:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:37:20 +0100 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <194761377.20051030223720@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Vsx6ZwZeoeCrbmOkTQet5gj4h3e1SytdONhURLZpPbNWqhwCsONBk6 X-TOI-MSGID: 8dac3fc8-755a-4d99-952d-569475e52aa1 Subject: LF: TA tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Traces of VO1NA appeared here about 17:50 UTC. Joe changed to a faster mode sending "X"s until 20:30. Since 21:00 back to QRSS120. Readable signal from XGJ appeared here 20:45. Traces since about 19:50. The XGJ frequency drifted slightly down about 20:00-20:10 UTC. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:16:50 +0000 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWC7F-0005wt-PI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:16:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EWC7F-0005wN-7O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:16:49 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EWC60-0006d9-Af for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EWC5z-0006d0-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:15:31 +0000 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EWCqa-0002Az-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:03:41 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9UCFNhG027641 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:45:23 -0330 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9UCFN51012526 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:45:23 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9UCFMQX011799; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:45:22 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:45:21 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001501c5dc85$657b2ee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Message-ID: References: <1202779694.20051028224129@t-online.de> <001501c5dc85$657b2ee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Jean Pierre, It looks like my signals -- at least the frequency looks OK. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:21:14 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVwGM-0007Ix-A0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:21:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVwGM-0007I2-7N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:21:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVwFO-0004Qq-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:20:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVwFN-0004Qh-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:20:09 +0100 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVwzh-0007jm-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:08:03 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVwFJ-0004kF-00; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:20:05 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XYT8CBZVZeG23k0uNxiclqmwHXHgCdQSIzYBXed2GgYA5lsoeLf1cS@[84.133.82.228]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVwF9-0ergdE0; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:19:55 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:19:56 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1063800953.20051029211956@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XYT8CBZVZeG23k0uNxiclqmwHXHgCdQSIzYBXed2GgYA5lsoeLf1cS X-TOI-MSGID: ac2c1e55-3338-4c78-98a2-73e5bd8a3613 Subject: LF: VO1NA again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA appeared very early again here tonight. First "X" copied about 18:20 UTC. Between 13:00 and 15:00 UTC a clear detection of 2 "X" here in Germany. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:11:44 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVsMx-0004MD-V7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:11:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVsMx-0004M6-S2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:11:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVsMl-0004A7-AB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:11:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVsMk-00049y-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:11:30 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVtO6-0005NJ-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:17:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 5679 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2005 15:10:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 15:10:17 -0000 Message-ID: <004401c5dc92$7a3d49a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1279921513.20051029152924@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:10:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: TA 28/29 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, We picked the frequency for Loran clearness in North America, so I knew it wouldn't be as good for you. Hopefully, there will be more of this stuff going on over the winter, and you will have a chance to eavesdrop. Thanks for the reports. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:53:06 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVs4w-0007D5-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:53:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVs4v-0007Cb-Ef for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:53:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVs4f-00044O-Qd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:52:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVs4f-00044F-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:52:49 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVsov-0006Do-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:40:38 +0100 Received: from 212-139-42-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.139.42.39]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 15:52:34 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Received: from 212-139-42-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.42.39]:1469 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EVs1v-0009Mc-CL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:49:59 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:52:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <43636468.8090007@att.net> Subject: RE: LF: TA sigs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000105000808060801080108" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000105000808060801080108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dex (again), After sending the previous mail I looked at my 1200 local (1100z) capture and XKO is just visible up to 0900z, see attachment. The previous capture was at 0800z. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: 29 October 2005 13:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: TA sigs Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi All, > >XKO and NA signals still visible here in NW UK at 0900z using qrss60. > > > Thanks for the daylight report Gary. That's more than an hour after your sunrise isn't it? 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for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:18:53 +0100 Received: from 212-139-42-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.139.42.39]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 15:29:57 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="47066384:sNHT24955350" Received: from 212-139-42-39.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.42.39]:1403 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EVriX-000DIe-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:29:57 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:30:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <43636468.8090007@att.net> Subject: RE: LF: TA sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dex, My sunrise 0703z (0803 local) my mail should have read 0800z (0900 local) which is as you stated 1 hour after my sunrise. Sorry for the error on the times but it is still a valid daylight report. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: 29 October 2005 13:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: TA sigs Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi All, > >XKO and NA signals still visible here in NW UK at 0900z using qrss60. > > > Thanks for the daylight report Gary. That's more than an hour after your sunrise isn't it? Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:30:02 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVqmX-0005No-Cv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:30:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVqmX-0005NI-70 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:30:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVqm4-0003s7-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:29:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVqm3-0003ry-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:29:31 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVrnP-0004yK-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:35:01 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVqlz-0004pV-05; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:27 +0200 Received: from HW1 (r1sG2qZZoeGYV6BBtUXF9uCrezKZupyD0nNk8OY6aIFQjIuZl6GN0k@[84.133.77.24]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVqlx-1i6P0i0; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:29:24 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1279921513.20051029152924@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: r1sG2qZZoeGYV6BBtUXF9uCrezKZupyD0nNk8OY6aIFQjIuZl6GN0k X-TOI-MSGID: e87128b3-7bdc-444c-90a1-9c3152a13d9d Subject: LF: TA 28/29 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Congratulations to John and Laurence completing the WOLF QSO last night. I captured only the WD2XES part at 01:00 UTC: t: 288 f:-0.059 pm: 2467 jm:894 q: -6.8 -5.5 XDW XES N SORRY - and the test just before the QSO about 23:40 UTC: t: 384 f:-0.010 pm: 2014 jm:705 q: -4.5 -4.9 WD2XES TESTING - I have still some rx trouble in that part of the band! Also strong VO1NA, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: (Sorry, failed after 08:00 UTC) http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:36:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVpxD-000061-3w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:36:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVpxD-00005a-01 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:36:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVpwq-0003f2-Ud for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:36:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVpwq-0003et-Ee for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:36:36 +0100 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVqyB-0004ki-RX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:42:04 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-43-82-249-178-137.adsl.proxad.net [82.249.178.137]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 925795050A for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001501c5dc85$657b2ee0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1202779694.20051028224129@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:36:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Joe ! and all The last night are you transmit in QRSS 60 ? See attachment . 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Craig" To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:42 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA > Hi Hartmut and group, > > This should get intersting as we approach the solstice. > The recent inprovement in the signal strength was likely > due to a connection to the mains earth. The silly > aerial would not tune properly otherwise. > > 73 > Joe > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > >> Joe, >> >> your signal appears earlier every day. See attachment. >> >> 73 >> Hartmut > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:02:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVpPM-0002xX-97 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:02:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVpPM-0002x2-0q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:02:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVpOi-0003Z1-Fr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:01:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVpOi-0003Ys-49 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:01:20 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVqQ2-0004dM-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:06:47 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005102912003511200f4dmde>; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:00:36 +0000 Message-ID: <43636468.8090007@att.net> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:00:40 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: TA sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary - G4WGT wrote: >Hi All, > >XKO and NA signals still visible here in NW UK at 0900z using qrss60. > > > Thanks for the daylight report Gary. That's more than an hour after your sunrise isn't it? Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVmmU-0002zq-7l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVmmU-0002zj-1S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVmll-0003Od-JZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:12:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVmlk-0003OU-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:12:56 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVnVv-0004PO-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:00:40 +0100 Received: from 212-139-36-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([212.139.36.15]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 10:11:49 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AI8CABfTYkOGCwE X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,265,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="40826767:sNHT188139826" Received: from 212-139-36-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.36.15]:1065 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EVmkf-000N5H-Hd; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:11:49 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: TA sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, XKO and NA signals still visible here in NW UK at 0900z using qrss60. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:43:33 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVc0a-0005Dr-Vb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:43:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVc0a-0005DE-Mo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:43:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVbzz-0002gi-PZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:42:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVbzz-0002gZ-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:42:55 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVd11-0001iK-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:48:04 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9SLgkhG017071 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:12:46 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9SLgk51001769 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:12:46 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9SLgkiD005324; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:12:46 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:12:45 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1202779694.20051028224129@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <1202779694.20051028224129@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Hartmut and group, This should get intersting as we approach the solstice. The recent inprovement in the signal strength was likely due to a connection to the mains earth. The silly aerial would not tune properly otherwise. 73 Joe On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Hartmut Wolff wrote: > Joe, > > your signal appears earlier every day. See attachment. > > 73 > Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:42:17 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVb3I-0002Qm-0K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:42:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVb3H-0002Q3-Pf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:42:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVb2c-0002ZY-9n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:41:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVb2b-0002ZP-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:41:33 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVbma-0000ER-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:29:05 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVb2Z-0002Bf-06; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:31 +0200 Received: from HW1 (JJBDEZZrwepvsRxKnBE6lRAVfmQz4DqR7FSzWbx2o+fThfjck7husO@[84.133.69.202]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVb2W-1YhAHI0; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:29 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1202779694.20051028224129@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: JJBDEZZrwepvsRxKnBE6lRAVfmQz4DqR7FSzWbx2o+fThfjck7husO X-TOI-MSGID: c93adcfc-642d-4145-b9c0-80e5626295d2 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040006090503090205060301" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040006090503090205060301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joe, your signal appears earlier every day. 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Dear Hubert, LF,
 
Good late afternoon signal from F6CWA
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
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<000a01c5dbde$57ab6480$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:40:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear friends,
         the beacon DI2AG on 440,044KHz is again on air QRSS3.
73    Walter   DJ2LF
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:30:18 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVGGI-0004O5-9Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:30:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVGGI-0004Nt-5J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:30:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVGES-0008Ln-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:28:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVGER-0008Le-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:28:23 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVGy1-0007xz-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:15:33 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi97.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.102]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B790EB6BB5 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006501c5db45$e11fa120$6611f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9113913.20051028001110@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:29:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Early TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Likewise DCF39, visible here since 2130 UTC and building. Much earlier than last night by about 3 hours when it climbed very quickly to audible level. Steve / VE7SL / Mayne Island, BC CN88 > NPG is visible here since about 21:00. Now 22:00 UTC about 8dB above > the noise. > VO1NA is visible since 18:50 UTC and XKO since about 21:20 UTC. > > 73 > > Hartmut > > Locator:JO52ho > www.h-wolff.de > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVFzy-0005sg-24 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVFzx-0005sV-Su for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:13:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVFyu-0008Ei-Qh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:12:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVFyu-0008EZ-B1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:12:20 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVGiW-0007oH-8c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:59:30 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EVFxt-000374-02; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:17 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XBVSNGZQQe-GWMrb8xAFe6A3wANxldIRqnsJ7OZBjmuWN5FpRPPFrY@[84.133.77.16]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EVFxm-1jxLSC0; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:11:10 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9113913.20051028001110@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XBVSNGZQQe-GWMrb8xAFe6A3wANxldIRqnsJ7OZBjmuWN5FpRPPFrY X-TOI-MSGID: 1fecb4e9-9ffe-44a6-b213-3702672e4724 Subject: LF: Early TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) NPG is visible here since about 21:00. Now 22:00 UTC about 8dB above the noise. VO1NA is visible since 18:50 UTC and XKO since about 21:20 UTC. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:57:40 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVC0Q-0008PN-Jv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:57:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EVC0P-0008Oo-J8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:57:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EVBzZ-0007Zn-RX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:56:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EVBzZ-0007Ze-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:56:45 +0100 Received: from sp0159.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.159] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EVD02-0002js-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:01:19 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.204.155) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) id 435B0E490010BEC9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:54:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c5db15$0cfc88c0$9bccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:39:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: cores Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
The old 3c5 tv line o/p transformers are equally as good as the modern 3c8/3c9 series. I have subsituted these for the 3c8 type and the output is exactly the same and they do not get hot up to the 1kw level (one core),
When I get time I am going to substitute the old air wound coils in the Decca with some of these tv cores and see what happens, I do not expect any problems and they make the unit more compact.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:35:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUwgO-0007ff-SB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:35:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUwgO-0007fU-Nq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:35:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUwfq-0005Ap-E4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:35:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUwfp-0005Ag-R1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:35:21 +0100 Received: from omc1-s42.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.248.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUxP7-0004VQ-7h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 03:22:11 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.172.121]) by omc1-s42.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:35:12 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:35:12 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV17.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:35:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1341741617.20051026233134@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:35:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:35:11 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2005 01:35:12.0485 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC8DC950:01C5DA96] Subject: LF: Re: Early fade in of VO1NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I suppose this is after the chainsaw festival Joe had last weekend? Looks solid on the right side.
 
Mike
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: LF: Early fade in of VO1NA

Early fade in of VO1NA tonight. Signal visible since about 19:30 UTC.
See attachment.

73

Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:34:44 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUsuu-0002py-Gm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:34:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUsuu-0002pn-9Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:34:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUst1-0004aY-G3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:32:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUst0-0004aP-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:32:42 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUtcE-0003CJ-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:19:29 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EUsrz-0001iz-06; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:31:40 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XK3nC4ZSQepALe3GGgiDAyjeP1dRQELiPW-Kb98JjuFy4LRxEjsvED@[84.133.82.116]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EUsrv-0vlMy80; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:31:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:31:34 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1341741617.20051026233134@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XK3nC4ZSQepALe3GGgiDAyjeP1dRQELiPW-Kb98JjuFy4LRxEjsvED X-TOI-MSGID: b9990c36-8278-4535-92fa-e033dda54b7b Subject: LF: Early fade in of VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040804000404000400010803" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040804000404000400010803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Early fade in of VO1NA tonight. Signal visible since about 19:30 UTC. 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Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:47:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUpMB-00044A-6K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:46:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUpM9-000441-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:46:33 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUqM8-0004y3-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:50:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 8640 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2005 17:46:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2005 17:46:18 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c5da55$e44f6150$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:51:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: XES WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) WD2XES will be running WOLF on 137.441 kHz tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. All reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:17:27 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUn1r-0007u7-AB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:17:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUn1r-0007u0-5F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:17:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUn0z-0003fu-S9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:16:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUn0z-0003fl-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:16:33 +0100 Received: from bay102-f17.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.27] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUnk5-0000SU-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:03:13 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:16:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:16:01 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2005 15:16:01.0638 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CEC6860:01C5DA40] Subject: LF: watch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Im going to do some "spring cleaning" in the shack which will take XDW off air for a while. If anyone wants to put up a signal from Eu or other location let me know and I shove the Argo/decode screen on the home web site here in Oklahoma XDW will go off at Dusk around 0700 CDT this evening. Laurence http://myweb.cableone.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:14:56 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUgQx-0002fr-Sr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:14:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUgQx-0002fg-Om for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:14:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUgQW-0002jT-R0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:14:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUgQW-0002jK-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:14:28 +0100 Received: from mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.119]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUh9X-0005Dn-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:01:01 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051026081412.ZPRY16740.mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:14:12 +1300 Received: from IBMF7542B482FC ([222.153.247.182]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051026081412.SLGJ7245.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@IBMF7542B482FC> for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:14:12 +1300 Message-ID: <001a01c5da05$40610940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009e01c5d9fa$f8073340$0201a8c0@private.network> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:14:07 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: TIL off due to wind damage... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Scott,
 
Thanks for the notice, I'll keep monitoring in case another NA sig turns up.  I still might get yours off a whistler from earlier on ;-)
 
73, Bob
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUfH3-00061x-HS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUfH3-00061n-Cz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:00:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUfG8-0002UX-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:59:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUfG7-0002UO-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:59:39 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUgFt-0001Dx-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:03:30 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051026065930.EQXH9973.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:59:30 -0600 Message-ID: <009e01c5d9fa$f8073340$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:00:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL off due to wind damage... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
We had a good blow tonight which damaged the top loading of the antenna.
 
TIL will be QRT until atleast Thursday night...
 
TX and other systems are fine but I will need time in daylight to conduct repairs.
 
73 Scott
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:44:44 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUVf0-000107-Cb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:44:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUVf0-0000z9-72 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:44:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUVeS-0000nb-J3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:44:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUVeM-0000nS-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:44:02 +0100 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUWNB-0000YR-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:30:24 +0100 Received: from localhost ([199.185.220.240]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20051025203955.YLOW15475.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@localhost> for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:39:55 -0600 Received: from 204.174.12.18 ( [204.174.12.18]) as user sthed475@192.168.200.1 by webmail.telus.net with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:39:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1130272795.435e981b6b9c6@webmail.telus.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:39:55 -0700 From: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <009701c5d991$22bb1b20$e0e4fc3e@l8p8y6> In-Reply-To: <009701c5d991$22bb1b20$e0e4fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 204.174.12.18 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Conditons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) When do you go back? Quoting hamilton mal : > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MIKE REID > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:42 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Conditons > > > Where's Mal????????????????????? > > LOL!!! > > Mal is just back today from a 4 week holiday in the Algarve sun. I have > been active on all the HF bands from there as CT/G3KEV and worked a lot of > stations and got into some large PILE ups, too many from the QSL point of > view. > I had a lot of fun working mostly CW. > 73 De Mal/G3KEV > > > > Mike > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:20 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUeh-00059s-3A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUef-00059G-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUcd-0000SW-3c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:38:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUcc-0000SN-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:38:10 +0100 Received: from sp0235.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.235] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUVc9-0006ft-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:41:46 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.224) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) id 435B0E49000953EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:38:07 +0000 Message-ID: <009701c5d991$22bb1b20$e0e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:57:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Conditons Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE REID
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:42 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Conditons

Where's Mal?????????????????????
 
LOL!!!
 
Mal is just back today from a 4 week holiday in the Algarve sun. I have been active on all the HF bands from there as CT/G3KEV and worked a lot of stations and got into some large PILE ups, too many from the QSL point of view.
I had a lot of fun working mostly CW.
73 De Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
Mike
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:07 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUeU-0001VU-14 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUeT-0001Uy-Kx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUeP-0000UX-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUeO-0000UH-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:40:00 +0100 Received: from sp0238.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.238] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUVdv-0006gk-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:43:36 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.224) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) id 435B0E49000953F7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:38:12 +0000 Message-ID: <009901c5d991$2549b540$e0e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051002183733.34273.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:33:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF AMPS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF AMPS

 
Mal,
I second Derek Atter's comments. My Decca transmitter run for 2 years without any malfunctions in normal CW and QRSS modes. It survived working with accidentally disconnected antenna at 1Kw power level and a melted and shorted coax did no harm. My store of spare fets is undiminshed.
de  Lech, G3KAU  
 
Its nice to know you and Derek are still about. I have not heard both of you for years, so its no surprise your Decca is lasting well, it is never USED !!!!!
I recall your old friend Peter up the road that used one describing how to change blown fets. Did I imagine this ????????
 
I have two of these Decca machines that I modified for 137 khz but still use my old home built FET tx. When I get more time I will fire the old Decca Jeep up.
Have you boys from the deep south all given up on LF?
 
de G3KEV
 
 

DEREK ATTER <derek.atter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Mal,
I am glad to say that your comment regarding experience of frequent failures of FETs in the 1Kw Decca 5501 amplifiers in use on the LF bands (including 73Khz) is as ever, a load of codswollop!
  
 In all the years they have been used since they became available for use on the Ham bands, I have only ever had heard one report of FETs been blown. and that is despite plenty of instances of short circuits and open circuits etc.being reported on the antenna output. at full power. They have proved to be almost bomb-proof.and that includes long periods of QRSS at 10sec dots at which duty cycle they barely get warm!  They were after all designed to operate at continuous carrier ioutput n the Racal-Decca Navigator system.
 
   At least 15 of the amplifiers went through our hands at the Crawley Amateur Radio Club to various destinations including EU and North America and we still carry a quantity of spare FETs but have only ever had one request for replacements.
 
73,
Derek Atter  G3GRO 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: LF: LF AMPS

For trouble free and rugged amplifiers on LF a tube is the only reliable approach. The type of antennas used by the majority of LF radio amateurs are totally unreliable, poor insulators, antenna moving around in the wind, variations in wx dry or wet and other considerations. These conditions cause considerable variations in antenna impedance, resulting in sudden mis matches, high swr etc and except you have a high degree of protection the FETS will not survive. Tubes also suffer but seldom are destroyed.
Those using the rugged Decca Jeep fet amps (5501 amps) also suffer the same fate. The majority of users have blown the fets.
Using fet amps into a dummy load is a totally different story, no variations in load and total reliability, but connecting to the average amateur LF antenna will produce loud bangs and smoke.
Using QRS especially above 3 sec dots duration is just waiting for a disaster to happen!! 60 or 120 sec dot duration is a killer for prolonged QSO'S
Go for a tube but watch those very high anode voltages like 3k. YOU could expire prematurely.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
  

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:39:28 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUdr-0002v8-Fj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:39:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUUdr-0002um-8e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:39:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUcd-0000Sj-Tj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:38:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUUcd-0000Sa-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:38:11 +0100 Received: from sp0235.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.235] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUVcA-0006fx-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:41:47 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.224) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) id 435B0E49000953F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:38:09 +0000 Message-ID: <009801c5d991$2413f460$e0e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1811814855.20051024154952@sibru.ru> <000201c5d8e8$6574e8a0$5611f4cc@p1i5f0> <016a01c5d8e6$8baee5e0$54ecfea9@server> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:11:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: Re: Toroid winding question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: LF: Toroid winding question > Hello LFers, > > How critical is the spacing between the windings and the core material when > winding a toroidal transformer? I have a core taken from a television > flyback > transformer that I'd like to experiment with using different winding > techniques. > To simplify things, I was thinking of putting the windings onto bobbins that > could quickly be slipped on and off of the core. Would I be OK with using > a bobbin with 1/8 inch (3 mm) wall thickness or should I look for something > with a thinner wall? Any and all comments welcome. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr I use these cores, which are mostly 3C material, some are marked. My approach, keep the two halves of the core as tight together as possible, no gap, then wind around the whole perimiter firstly with the winding that requires most turns and over wind this with the heavier guage winding of least turns eg This method is not as convenient as using two bobbins one for prim and one for sec but it works well, distribute the turns equally on each of the 4 sides and keep the same sense for both windings. The two halves need to be tightly clamped with a metal bracket, use the original bracked that comes with the transformer. I tried using plastic ties but you cannot get these tight enough. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:31:57 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUFXY-00015z-6A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:31:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUFXY-00015s-0d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:31:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUFXL-00067I-Ok for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:31:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUFXL-000679-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:31:43 +0100 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUGFu-0000hn-PK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:17:48 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051025033117.NKVT9771.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:31:17 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([222.153.247.182]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051025033117.VXEG3578.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:31:17 +1300 Message-ID: <005d01c5d914$97679b10$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1811814855.20051024154952@sibru.ru> <000201c5d8e8$6574e8a0$5611f4cc@p1i5f0> <016a01c5d8e6$8baee5e0$54ecfea9@server> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:29:10 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Toroid winding question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear JB VE3EAR - VE3WZL, Leakage inductance increases with separation between primary and secondary, even if you had adjacent bobbins. I've done some frequency response tests on what I thought could be wideband transformers that had separated primary and secondary and the measured results were more narrowband than I thought they could be. I believe the reason is incomplete flux linkages as the ferrite core material is not the only magnetic path, even if it is the main one, and the "bypass flux" can be considered to contribute to leakage inductance. Wideband performance continues to need "transmission line" winding technique. For use in transmitter finals, leakage reactance stored energy can result in spikes. 73, Bob ZL2CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: LF: Toroid winding question > Hello LFers, > > How critical is the spacing between the windings and the core material > when > winding a toroidal transformer? I have a core taken from a television > flyback > transformer that I'd like to experiment with using different winding > techniques. > To simplify things, I was thinking of putting the windings onto bobbins > that > could quickly be slipped on and off of the core. Would I be OK with using > a bobbin with 1/8 inch (3 mm) wall thickness or should I look for > something > with a thinner wall? Any and all comments welcome. > > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL > Solar and wind powered > EN93dr > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:44:28 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUEnb-0005bl-SE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:44:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUEnb-0005bd-OH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:44:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUEnN-0005nT-TO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:44:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUEnN-0005nK-39 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:44:13 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav6.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.110] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUFmY-0002Le-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:47:28 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:42:22 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV6.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:42:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:42:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:42:22 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 02:42:22.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9CF4CE0:01C5D90D] Subject: LF: Re: Conditons Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Where's Mal?????????????????????
 
LOL!!!
 
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:31 PM
Subject: LF: Conditons

Good long haul conditions this evening into Western Europe - I see XDW for
the first time on G3YXM grabber (even with the screen partially u/s ;-)) and
fair signals on the CT1DRP...good signals also from my collegues to the NE
appearing.


Laurence KL1X
em26aq



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:32:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUEc4-00072P-SC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:32:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUEc4-00071Q-N6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:32:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUEbY-0005fn-CT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:32:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUEbX-0005fe-UF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:31:59 +0100 Received: from bay102-f40.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.50] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUFK7-0000SA-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:18:04 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:31:52 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:31:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:31:52 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 02:31:52.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[426DBC50:01C5D90C] Subject: LF: Conditons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Good long haul conditions this evening into Western Europe - I see XDW for the first time on G3YXM grabber (even with the screen partially u/s ;-)) and fair signals on the CT1DRP...good signals also from my collegues to the NE appearing. Laurence KL1X em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:25:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUDZK-0001ku-Io for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:25:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUDZK-0001ka-E7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:25:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUDYu-0005Me-CZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:25:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUDYt-0005MV-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:25:11 +0100 Received: from bay102-f16.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.26] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUEHR-0008Rl-N2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:11:15 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:25:08 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:25:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:25:08 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 01:25:08.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFC7FC30:01C5D902] Subject: LF: XDW "issues" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit XDW returned at 0117z 25th October. It had been off for an interdeterminate period. The fault was on a #0 copper lug connecting to one of the Ceramic feed thru'swhere the loop conductors are connected. This lug and is connection had gone "HR" and produced a lot of heat enough to melt insulation and finally cause an open circuit on the lugs itself and the feed thru nuts and bolts. With around 50A (49.5Amps) of aerial current it pays to keep everything very very tight. I replaced every nut and bolt which had become heat stressed and "dark" to be on the safe side. I rewired the 2T coupling loop, replaced the feed thru and reconnected and everything has come up fine with no changes in the loop tuning. For people asking about the Decca 5501 ruggediness - it has been running into an "open" circuit for the past period during this fault - Nice thing is that virtually no current is drawn from the PA in class "N" (N between D and E ((!)) in this fault condition and everything stayed cool. Currently running about 1.1Kw into the loop....Ill check everything coolish in an hour but I have a 3.30am start to catch a plane...Ill leave the gear on whilst Im away. Laurence kl1x/5 wd2xd2 137.775 staircase... em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:07:14 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUBPN-0006II-T9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:07:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUBPN-0006IA-Mf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:07:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUBP9-0004pi-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:06:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUBP9-0004pZ-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:06:59 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUCOG-0001jQ-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:10:09 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9ON09bM011916 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:00:10 -0400 Received: from server (dial-177.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.177]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j9ON3lhN029560 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <016a01c5d8e6$8baee5e0$54ecfea9@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1811814855.20051024154952@sibru.ru> <000201c5d8e8$6574e8a0$5611f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:01:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Toroid winding question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello LFers, How critical is the spacing between the windings and the core material when winding a toroidal transformer? I have a core taken from a television flyback transformer that I'd like to experiment with using different winding techniques. To simplify things, I was thinking of putting the windings onto bobbins that could quickly be slipped on and off of the core. Would I be OK with using a bobbin with 1/8 inch (3 mm) wall thickness or should I look for something with a thinner wall? Any and all comments welcome. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL Solar and wind powered EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:15:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUAbL-0005Sn-Pl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:15:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EUAbL-0005Sc-Lb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:15:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EUAaM-0004c4-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:14:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EUAaL-0004bv-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:14:29 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EUBZR-0001aA-Cy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:17:39 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi81.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.86]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E4184B7BFF; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000201c5d8e8$6574e8a0$5611f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Lowfer" References: <1811814855.20051024154952@sibru.ru> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:08:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF39 In Early Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Seeing it early today (1410 local time). Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:51:14 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU4bQ-0006qh-OP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:51:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU4bQ-0006oh-GZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:51:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EU4bE-0003LG-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:51:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EU4b8-0003L7-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:50:54 +0100 Received: from [213.59.34.248] (helo=fmail.vsptus.ru) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EU5JW-00058w-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:36:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 18822 invoked by uid 503); 24 Oct 2005 14:56:02 -0000 Received: from dial50.sibru.ru (HELO 127.0.0.1) (213.59.34.180) by fmail.sibru.ru with SMTP; 24 Oct 2005 14:56:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:49:52 +0000 From: Vit X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1811814855.20051024154952@sibru.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear LF operators! UA0AET ready RX with new loop. Loc - NO65KX. Please beacons for me about 135923 QRSS60 19:00-00:00 UTC. 73! Vitaly UA0AET mailto:ua0aet52@sibru.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:09 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU0vw-0001Ar-NO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU0vw-0001Ak-Jn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EU0vm-0002Oo-FK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:55:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EU0vl-0002Of-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:55:57 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EU1uf-0007Xs-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:58:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 22636 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2005 11:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.28.203 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2005 11:55:50 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c5d891$db4de560$cb1c8351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:55:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Talk in Cambridge, UK? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Daniel, I guess Cambridge is well within range of me ( I am just east of Ipswich). I have given a few talks to local clubs on 136kHz, and though my main presentations to the HF Convention have been on Propagation , I have experimented with simple power amplifiers and aerials, as well as weak signal detection. I am not currently "active" as a transmitter on 136khz but would love to encourage others to join an area of the hobby that has given me a lot of fun in the last few years. Regards Alan Melia G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Schlieper" To: Sent: 24 October 2005 12:14 Subject: LF: Talk in Cambridge, UK? > Dear LF OPs, > > would one of you care to give a talk at the Cambridge & District Amateur > Radio Club? 136kHz sparked a lot of interest in our club recently, as it > sounds like the ultimate challenge in weak signal operation, electrically > small antennas, high power amplifiers and more exciting things. > > Unfortunately we have nobody who actually operates on LF at the moment, > and it would be great to have an introduction from somebody who does. It > is no fun to read it only from books after all. So, who would like to come > to Cambridge and give us a talk? We meet every Friday at 20:00h, talks > should be about an hour long (more information at www.cdarc.org.uk). > > We can contribute to the travel costs and could arrange a place to stay > for the night. Who is interested? > > 73 de Daniel M0ERA > > -- > Daniel Schlieper daniel@tuxomania.net > 20 Glebe Road M0ERA > Cambridge CB1 7SZ Mobile phone: +44 7813985230 > UK > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:40 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU0Jf-0003Ik-Pp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EU0Jf-0003Gf-Cq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EU0IG-0002AU-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:15:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EU0IF-0002AL-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:15:07 +0100 Received: from hq.tuxomania.net ([217.69.72.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EU1H8-0007Mx-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:18:03 +0100 Received: by hq.tuxomania.net (Postfix, from userid 32188) id 3F7688D2C8; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:14:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq.tuxomania.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AF98D29E for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:14:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:14:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Schlieper X-X-Sender: daniel@hq.tuxomania.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Talk in Cambridge, UK? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF OPs, would one of you care to give a talk at the Cambridge & District Amateur Radio Club? 136kHz sparked a lot of interest in our club recently, as it sounds like the ultimate challenge in weak signal operation, electrically small antennas, high power amplifiers and more exciting things. Unfortunately we have nobody who actually operates on LF at the moment, and it would be great to have an introduction from somebody who does. It is no fun to read it only from books after all. So, who would like to come to Cambridge and give us a talk? We meet every Friday at 20:00h, talks should be about an hour long (more information at www.cdarc.org.uk). We can contribute to the travel costs and could arrange a place to stay for the night. Who is interested? 73 de Daniel M0ERA -- Daniel Schlieper daniel@tuxomania.net 20 Glebe Road M0ERA Cambridge CB1 7SZ Mobile phone: +44 7813985230 UK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:42:55 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETqQQ-0007oC-Fi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:42:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETqQQ-0007nr-8j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:42:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETqPh-0000CD-GP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:42:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETqPg-0000C4-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:42:08 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETrOM-0005Ot-15 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 02:44:51 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051024004148.HWVE28339.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:41:48 -0600 Message-ID: <013e01c5d833$dcc11420$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:42:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF-39 into Mayne Is. & Vancouver... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
DCF-39 been making a fine showing into Southern coastal BC...
 
Steve's busy working the 160m opening to EU...
 
TIL will be on the air at ~0100UTC in DXsine mode...
 
73 Scott
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETfl9-0001Jo-WE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETfl9-0001JY-F6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETfke-0006Zb-2f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETfkd-0006ZS-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:03 +0100 Received: from lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net ([193.195.70.4] ident=mirapoint) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETgSd-0002xF-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:04:31 +0100 Received: from lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net (lon1-mailstore-2-port0.visp.demon.net [192.168.217.133]) by lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id DBD91164; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from 80.189.55.84 by lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with HTTP/1.1; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:00 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:19:00 +0100 From: m0fmt@beeb.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.5.8-GR MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Subject: Re: LF: Re: calculation of vertical antenna with capacitive toploading able to ON7YD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks Tom great tool. Pete M0FMT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:15:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETelV-0003m4-Ga for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:15:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETelV-0003ll-Br for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:15:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETel8-0006KH-0t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:15:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETel7-0006K8-BD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:15:29 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETfT5-0002eL-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:00:56 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9NCFLhG030008 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:45:21 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9NCFJ51000929 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:45:19 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9NCFJ06014217; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:45:19 -0230 (NDT) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:45:18 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002401c5d7c0$70dab040$0a7e8351@w4o8m9> Message-ID: References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de><00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> <002401c5d7c0$70dab040$0a7e8351@w4o8m9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - transformers Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thank-you Jim for your info and advice on the transformer. While reading your reply I came up with an idea for keeping it cool -- put the silly thing in a big tub of water! With a choke input filter, the transformer will be more efficient, but the output voltage will be lower-- 0.9 * 55 = 50. I have a 12.6 20A xfmr that can be put in series. This should bring the output to 61 volts. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:00:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETdaE-0003ci-4d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:00:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETdaE-0003cY-0A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:00:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETdZx-00063A-75 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:59:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETdZw-000631-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:59:52 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETeHt-0002Ky-T3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:45:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 56106 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2005 10:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?81.131.126.10?) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.126.10 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2005 10:58:45 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.12.4]); Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c5d7c0$70dab040$0a7e8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de><00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:56:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - transformers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Joe, LF Group, I may be wrong, but I believe the term "control transformer" just refers to relatively small mains transformers in industrial applications intended for powering ancilliary control circuits, as opposed to big MVA-rated transformers for huge motors, furnaces, etc. As far as the rating goes, the VA rating normally refers to a resistive load - if you have a rectifier/capacitor connected to the secondary, the transformer should be derated, because the high crest factor of the peaky current waveform being drawn by the rectifier leads to greater heating effect within the transformer. By how much depends on the type of transformer, rectifier and filter component arrangement, but in the worst case, derating by about 0.7 for a capacitor-input filter seems to be normal. The rating is also "thermal", i.e. the main limiting factor is the temperature rise inside the transformer, so an intermittent load can be considerably more than the rating without overheating the transformer, provided there are low-load cooling down periods. This would be the case when transmitting CW and QRSS, so it might well be OK for the full output, provided you are not operating with 100% key-down modes like Jason or DFCW (nearly). If it is in an enclosure, removing the enclosure ought to reduce the temperature rise a bit (unless you really need the "waterproof" feature, of course!). Another factor might be the regulation, i.e. reduction in output voltage under load, which would distort the keying waveform - probably more of an issue for manual CW than QRSS. A transformer with good regulation also implies higher peak currents drawn from the mains, which might potentially cause problems with popping fuses without some kind of "soft start" -having said all this, there seem to be plenty of PSUs around for linears, etc. that work quite happily on normal mains supplies at this kind of power level. My suggestion would be to try it and see what happens - good luck! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Craig To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA > Hi Steve (and Mike WE0H), > > You are quite preceptive... a chainsaw weekend indeed. I cut a 100' > line in the woods this afternoon. And as for warming a Decca (and > eventually some worms under the QTH) I have acquired a Hammond > No. 93895 1.1kVA type "Q" transformer 117 to 55 volts. I have no > idea what a type "Q" is. From what I've read it's a "control" xfmr, > but this tells me little. Will it melt if I use it to heat the > Decca? It looks a bit small for 1.1 kVA. Interestingly, it's potted > and waterproof! Its maximum temperature rise is 80 deg. C. I'm hoping > it will survive QRSS120. > > 73 > Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:24:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETd1c-0001Rf-13 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:24:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETd1b-0001RS-TU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:24:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETd0W-0005tL-4S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:23:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETd0V-0005tC-4f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:23:15 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETdiR-00027k-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9614C83D for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:23:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.136] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.26F); Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:23:06 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.136 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID462JJwkXg2866X02 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.164.186] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.25R) with ESMTP id 150JJwkXe0072M36; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:23:04 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.164.186 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <435B648E.2070000@usa.net> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:23:10 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> <435A36D7.1080105@usa.net> <001501c5d72a$13589d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> <002301c5d760$04653120$e9308351@Main> In-Reply-To: <002301c5d760$04653120$e9308351@Main> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID150JJwkXe0072X36 Subject: LF: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Alan Melia wrote: > Maybe we should shout it Andy as in SECRET !! > Alan Well, the message got through, so the culprit is not that word... Let me try once again, maybe changing some suspect words of my previous message(s). ----------------------------- Hi Alan, well, I am not that interested in the details about how the loop itself is built, but instead on the low IP3 preamplifier... but I received a private note from an owner of that active loop telling that the circuitry is potted up so getting at the schematic is virtually impossible... No, I haven't seen the preamp on the latest issue of Lowdown, as I don't subscribe to it. Would it be a serious breach of the fair play code to send me just that schematic ? :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD --------------------------------------- Alan Melia wrote: >> Hi Alberto, well the guys on the AOR 7030 group seem to rate it as well, but >> what are they comparing it with ?? that is the question. Surely there is not >> much secret in loops these days, but when I looked at some of these aerials >> I found that there were no definitive measurements. >> [snip] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:00:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETV9t-0001MY-Pe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:00:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETV9t-0001MM-7v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:00:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETV9f-00036L-6k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:00:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETV9e-00036C-F2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:00:10 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav10.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.114] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETW7r-00019B-Ad for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:02:24 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:02 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:00:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:00:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:00:02 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2005 02:00:02.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B189040:01C5D775] Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Loosing those trees will drop the tree loss significantly. Should see a much stronger signal in to the EU countries then.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Craig
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA

Hi Steve (and Mike WE0H),

You are quite preceptive... a chainsaw weekend indeed.  I cut a 100'
line in the woods this afternoon. And as for warming a Decca (and
eventually some worms under the QTH) I have acquired a Hammond
No. 93895 1.1kVA type "Q" transformer 117 to 55 volts.  I have no
idea what a type "Q" is.  From what I've read it's a "control" xfmr,
but this tells me little.  Will it melt if I use it to heat the
Decca?  It looks a bit small for 1.1 kVA.  Interestingly, it's potted
and waterproof!  Its maximum temperature rise is 80 deg. C. I'm hoping
it will survive QRSS120.

73
Joe

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Steve McDonald wrote:

>
> > > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days.  Hope
> > > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future.
>
> Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ????
>
>

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:36:44 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETUmx-00071J-KX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:36:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETUmx-000710-GE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:36:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETUlA-0002uj-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:34:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETUlA-0002ua-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:34:52 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETVSx-0001lR-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:20:09 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051023013058.XLVW4956.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:30:58 +1300 Received: from mcalevey ([210.86.119.222]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051023013057.JIDH25851.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:30:57 +1300 Message-ID: <00d601c5d771$69a8e5c0$0301010a@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> <002201c5d760$03929ee0$e9308351@Main> <001b01c5d761$918f14c0$6111f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:30:54 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 into VE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I'll have a look for you down here Steve if you run past our sunset. Nothing seen of TIL yet. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:13:07 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETUQ6-00036F-Jt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:13:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETUQ6-000366-EB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:13:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETUPi-0002p5-PR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:12:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETUPi-0002ow-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:12:42 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETV7W-0001g2-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:57:59 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id l.1ad.41ed0c37 (4214) for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1ad.41ed0c37.308c3d80@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:12:32 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 into VE7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit ... and NPG is strong on my screen since 0:30, currently almost 1 µV/m, above a rather noisy background.

Good luck!

Markus, DF6NM



In einer eMail vom 23.10.2005 01:40:26 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt jsm@gulfislands.com:

I'm seeinga fairly massive signal from them already tonight before sunset.
Accordingly I will spark up on 137777.3 at QRSS120 for a few hours.

450W into the vertical.
Ident will be "SL"

Steve / VE7SL



 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:47:12 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETT4v-0000A7-0s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:47:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETT4u-00009y-Su for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:47:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETT44-0002U9-Dg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:46:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETT43-0002U0-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:46:15 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.118] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETTlo-0001Cv-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:31:30 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (rmailcenter73.comcast.net[204.127.197.155]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005102223455901500r98l3e>; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:46:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.111; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:45:55 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Joe Craig Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:45:55 +0000 Message-Id: <102220052345.20934.435ACF330004447B000051C622073007930B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Joe, >And as for warming a Decca (and > eventually some worms under the QTH) I have acquired a Hammond > No. 93895 1.1kVA type "Q" transformer 117 to 55 volts. I have no > idea what a type "Q" is. From what I've read it's a "control" xfmr, > but this tells me little. Will it melt if I use it to heat the > Decca? The Decca (for the full 1200 watts output) takes 60V at 22 amps, which is just over 1.3 kW. Given that the kW rating is as much as 20% lower than the kVA rating something like a 1.6 kA transformer would be ideal. One possibility - can you get a second Hammond transformer and parallel two of them? Another possibility would be to run the Decca at reduced power, perhaps 700-800 watts. If you do run full power with the one Hammond keep an eye on the transformer's temperature! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > Hi Steve (and Mike WE0H), > > You are quite preceptive... a chainsaw weekend indeed. I cut a 100' > line in the woods this afternoon. And as for warming a Decca (and > eventually some worms under the QTH) I have acquired a Hammond > No. 93895 1.1kVA type "Q" transformer 117 to 55 volts. I have no > idea what a type "Q" is. From what I've read it's a "control" xfmr, > but this tells me little. Will it melt if I use it to heat the > Decca? It looks a bit small for 1.1 kVA. Interestingly, it's potted > and waterproof! Its maximum temperature rise is 80 deg. C. I'm hoping > it will survive QRSS120. > > 73 > Joe > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Steve McDonald wrote: > > > > > > > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope > > > > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. > > > > Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ???? > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSyI-0005iv-Ae for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSyI-0005im-51 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSy4-0002PD-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSy3-0002P4-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:40:03 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETTw4-0000km-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:42:14 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi92.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.97]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C3B7AD2; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001b01c5d761$918f14c0$6111f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> <002201c5d760$03929ee0$e9308351@Main> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:37:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF39 into VE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I'm seeinga fairly massive signal from them already tonight before sunset. Accordingly I will spark up on 137777.3 at QRSS120 for a few hours. 450W into the vertical. Ident will be "SL" Steve / VE7SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:28:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSmk-0002x0-Jn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:28:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSmk-0002wh-FS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:28:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSls-0002Ew-MQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:27:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSls-0002En-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:27:28 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETTk2-0000hz-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:29:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 49176 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2005 23:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.48.233 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 23:26:20 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c5d760$03929ee0$e9308351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:26:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Not Likely Steve....he uses an NYK Class E PA.....and that has many more watts it can produce yet. We have had 550 watts out of a single ended pair. Cheers de ALan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: 22 October 2005 04:50 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA > > > > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope > > > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. > > Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ???? > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:24:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSir-0006eE-Fi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:24:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETSir-0006e4-BM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:24:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSkv-0002Dk-Hw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:26:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETSkv-0002Db-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:26:29 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETTSh-00017X-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:11:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 49183 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2005 23:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.48.233 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 23:26:21 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c5d760$04653120$e9308351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> <435A36D7.1080105@usa.net> <001501c5d72a$13589d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:25:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Maybe we should shout it Andy as in SECRET !! Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: 22 October 2005 18:00 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop > The word s_cret. perhaps ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alberto di Bene" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:55 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop > > > > Are there specific words that trigger the anti-spam policy of this > reflector ? > > I tried two times to answer Alan's message, but apparently both messages > have > > been silently discarded... if this one makes through, I will try to reword > > the one that got discarded... > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > ----------------------- > > > > Alan Melia wrote: > > > Hi Alberto, well the guys on the AOR 7030 group seem to rate it as well, > but > > > what are they comparing it with ?? that is the question. Surely there is > not > > > much secret in loops these days, but when I looked at some of these > aerials > > > I found that there were no definitive measurements. > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 2005-10-21 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 2005-10-21 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETOSE-0001vH-SO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETOSE-0001uq-Al for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETORu-0001fe-H8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETORu-0001fV-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:50:34 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETPPx-00005H-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:52:39 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9MInPhG002296 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:19:25 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9MInP51003892 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:19:25 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9MInO8j029888; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:19:24 -0230 (NDT) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:19:24 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Message-ID: References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Steve (and Mike WE0H), You are quite preceptive... a chainsaw weekend indeed. I cut a 100' line in the woods this afternoon. And as for warming a Decca (and eventually some worms under the QTH) I have acquired a Hammond No. 93895 1.1kVA type "Q" transformer 117 to 55 volts. I have no idea what a type "Q" is. From what I've read it's a "control" xfmr, but this tells me little. Will it melt if I use it to heat the Decca? It looks a bit small for 1.1 kVA. Interestingly, it's potted and waterproof! Its maximum temperature rise is 80 deg. C. I'm hoping it will survive QRSS120. 73 Joe On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Steve McDonald wrote: > > > > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope > > > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. > > Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ???? > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETNfr-0003pz-L1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETNfr-0003pr-GO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETNfb-0001VC-4f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETNfa-0001V3-Fi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:00:38 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETONF-0008Ln-9S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:45:48 +0100 Received: from [212.248.140.42] ([212.248.140.42]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j9MI1TQZ023952 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:01:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.12.4]); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:00:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c5d72a$13589d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> <435A36D7.1080105@usa.net> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:00:14 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The word s_cret. perhaps ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: LF: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop > Are there specific words that trigger the anti-spam policy of this reflector ? > I tried two times to answer Alan's message, but apparently both messages have > been silently discarded... if this one makes through, I will try to reword > the one that got discarded... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > ----------------------- > > Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi Alberto, well the guys on the AOR 7030 group seem to rate it as well, but > > what are they comparing it with ?? that is the question. Surely there is not > > much secret in loops these days, but when I looked at some of these aerials > > I found that there were no definitive measurements. > > [snip] > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 2005-10-21 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 2005-10-21 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:56:45 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETIvU-00021U-4P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:56:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETIvT-00021D-W9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:56:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETIue-0000xk-QL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:55:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETIud-0000xb-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:55:51 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETJsa-0007Qv-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:57:49 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E1878078 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.26F); Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:48 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID756JJVm4W2401X01 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.130.77] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.25R) with ESMTP id 142JJVm4U0357M38; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:46 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.130.77 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <435A36D7.1080105@usa.net> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:55:51 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> In-Reply-To: <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID142JJVm4U0357X38 Subject: LF: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Are there specific words that trigger the anti-spam policy of this reflector ? I tried two times to answer Alan's message, but apparently both messages have been silently discarded... if this one makes through, I will try to reword the one that got discarded... 73 Alberto I2PHD ----------------------- Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Alberto, well the guys on the AOR 7030 group seem to rate it as well, but > what are they comparing it with ?? that is the question. Surely there is not > much secret in loops these days, but when I looked at some of these aerials > I found that there were no definitive measurements. > [snip] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:40:55 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETBBc-0002cV-Vb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:40:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETBBb-0002bu-F8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:40:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETBBM-0008D6-9O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:40:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETBBL-0008Cx-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:40:35 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav16.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.120] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETC96-0005mV-VQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:42:22 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:37:06 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:37:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:37:07 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2005 04:37:07.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[421EC740:01C5D6C2] Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
A chainsaw weekend???
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA


> > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days.  Hope
> > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future.

Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ????

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:54:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETASR-0007mH-HP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:54:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ETASR-0007lp-9A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:54:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ETARJ-00084M-KE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:53:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ETARI-00084D-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:53:00 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ETB8m-0004C9-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:37:57 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi66.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.71]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A57CB7A12 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00de01c5d6bb$bab3c860$4711f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:50:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope > > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. Do I smell a Decca warming up in the corner ???? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:24:52 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET4Ng-00032b-4L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:24:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET4Nf-00032P-Ls for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:24:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ET4NV-0007K0-Nm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:24:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ET4NV-0007Jr-CK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:24:41 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ET54s-0002j4-E5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:09:31 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ET4NT-0007iI-08; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:24:39 +0200 Received: from HW1 (STKs3TZZQe0ajz9H+jre3czfh-VaWgBtQ9Kxk8wo8uTNkYK-9ax3k1@[84.133.68.29]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ET4NH-1y3Vvk0; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:24:27 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:24:24 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1664918137.20051021232424@t-online.de> To: Joe Craig In-Reply-To: References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: STKs3TZZQe0ajz9H+jre3czfh-VaWgBtQ9Kxk8wo8uTNkYK-9ax3k1 X-TOI-MSGID: 9317d2a4-85a4-4440-8421-25cc9b5205a9 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020506040508000700070406" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020506040508000700070406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joe, > 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope > to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. good luck with the improvement in ERP and thanks for transmitting. 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+0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ET437-0007Cl-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:03:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ET437-0007Cc-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:03:37 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ET50j-0004g7-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:05:14 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9LL3QhG022106 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:33:26 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9LL3Q51008118 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:33:26 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9LL3Pha007763; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:33:25 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:33:25 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: LF group In-Reply-To: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Group, 137.777 will be quiet for the next few days. Hope to have an improvement in ERP in the near future. Thanks to all for providing signal reports. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:37:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET2hd-0002LY-5T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:37:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET2hc-0002KY-PB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:37:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ET2h2-00070q-DF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:36:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ET2h2-00070h-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:36:44 +0100 Received: from web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ET3eb-0004KS-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:38:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 64013 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2005 19:36:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DlPELh9cxhABPBIfPUoeV7gJIe53fUN0AbOXCvWfGKs7OKrejLVKno7bvB1efBhKbEc3vOeu+b3o2VxY+IXMcrtnyf3WcwV+VzI4aMWeFilLcjhkmb9urA7Wb8O+fuDu1NiN0cbl/2TmLR37zgUzG9+R6OIpmbxjTKuuryhcPss= ; Message-ID: <20051021193636.64011.qmail@web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:36:36 BST Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:36:36 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: LF group MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: OH5UFO Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
OH5UFO is calling CQ on QRSS 137.7 'ish now.
He's quite audible.
 
73 XIZ

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Photos From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:31:35 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET0jt-0002fx-Ih for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:31:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ET0jt-0002ff-Dk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:31:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ET0jB-0006ij-6f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:30:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ET0jA-0006ia-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:30:48 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ET1gi-0003fD-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:32:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 99113 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2005 17:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.126.16 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2005 17:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c5d665$075cf260$107e7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:14:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Alberto, well the guys on the AOR 7030 group seem to rate it as well, but what are they comparing it with ?? that is the question. Surely there is not much secret in loops these days, but when I looked at some of these aerials I found that there were no definitive measurements. I made a passive 4 turn shielded loop out of RG-58 about 20cms diam a few years ago.....it worked well but it was 26dB down on a wire on 160m. I received Halifax NS on 2182 kHz. It all depends on your location and local noises. The Wellbrook stuff looks nice but seems expensive for what it is to me.....but then I am mean when it comes to aerials and I begrudge giving all the fun to someone else, for something you could probably make for coppers.(centi-euros ??) Have you seen the preamp circuit that was in "Lowdown" this month. That uses "noiseless" feedback and a push-pull second stage. Intended for an E-field probe I think, but an interesting circuit. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: 21 October 2005 15:01 Subject: LF: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop > Has anybody reverse-engineered the Wellbrook ALA-1530 active > loop antenna ? Is the schematic available anywhere ? > It has gained an excellent rating from the WRTH review. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:14:37 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESzXQ-00028T-KC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:14:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESzXQ-00027H-EI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:14:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESzXA-0006XW-44 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:14:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESzX9-0006XN-Dn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:14:19 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ET0Ue-0003N9-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:15:51 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.116.70) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7DD70070260D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:10:27 +0200 Message-ID: <003001c5d652$660086a0$467424d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:15:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: calculation of vertical antenna with capacitive toploading able to ON7YD Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
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 Good job Tom thank you!
 
VY 73: Jeff F6CWN
 
 
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Hi LF group,
here is excel calculator that I have made able to ON7YD http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm#Introduction.
 
Good luck,
 
Tom DL4EAU
 
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Hi LF group,
here is excel calculator that I have made able to ON7YD http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm#Introduction.
 
Good luck,
 
Tom DL4EAU
 
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Oct 2005 15:03:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESxTe-0006Da-70 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:02:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESxTc-0006DR-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:02:32 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESyR5-0002mH-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:04:01 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8320414F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:01:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.26F); Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:01:53 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID012JJuoB23451X03 Received: from [192.168.0.6] [151.46.167.87] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.25R) with ESMTP id 848JJuoBz0009M29; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:01:52 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.167.87 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.6] Message-ID: <4358F4D5.8030503@usa.net> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:01:57 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> In-Reply-To: <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID848JJuoB10009X29 Subject: LF: Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Has anybody reverse-engineered the Wellbrook ALA-1530 active loop antenna ? Is the schematic available anywhere ? It has gained an excellent rating from the WRTH review. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:09:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESoDh-0006PZ-8J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:09:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESoDh-0006PA-3v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:09:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESoFu-0005Tl-2j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:11:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESoFt-0005Tc-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:11:45 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav13.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.117] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESowz-0004Ds-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:56:18 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:39:44 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:39:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:39:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:39:43 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2005 03:39:44.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[13E449D0:01C5D5F1] Subject: LF: Re: SEM qrm eliminator Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Ahhh, got a link to this critter?
 
tnx,
 
Mike
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: LF: SEM qrm eliminator

Hello net - anyone had any experience in modifying the SEM QRM eliminator
for LF?

Laurence KL1X/5
wd2xdw 137.7752 Khz staircase



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:02:57 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESnBI-0001QK-Dt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:02:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESnBI-0001QA-62 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:02:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESn9V-0005EH-Vr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:01:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESn9U-0005E8-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:01:04 +0100 Received: from bay102-f37.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.47] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESnqZ-0003mL-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:45:37 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:01:02 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:01:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:01:01 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2005 03:01:02.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB7F88A0:01C5D5EB] Subject: LF: SEM qrm eliminator Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello net - anyone had any experience in modifying the SEM QRM eliminator for LF? Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw 137.7752 Khz staircase From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:31:00 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESi03-000805-Fe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:31:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESi03-0007ze-A9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:30:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EShzL-0004iT-CS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:30:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EShzK-0004iK-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:30:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] helo=imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESigK-00022z-G2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:14:41 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.196.498f41ee (3850) for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <196.498f41ee.3089665b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:30:03 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Transatlantic, NPG on Colour DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit ... this posting was sent last Monday but apparently hadn't made it through the reflector - hopefully still interesting.

Regards
Markus, DF6NM

Thema: TA and NPG on Colour DF
Datum: 17.10.2005 19:36:59 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit
Von: Markus Vester
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org



Dear LF Group,
 
last night, I found a strong and isolated peak from XKO around 3:20, and more traces from XGJ, XES, XKO and NA around 5:30. The grabber snapshot is at
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_17Oct05.gif (273kB).
 
A screenshot of the NPG pair during its "good nights" on Oct. 15 and 16th is on
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/NPG_15-16Oct05.gif (52kB).
 
Besides their sheer strength, one remarkable thing about these traces is the fairly uniform colour on the direction finder over the night. Quite unlike medium-range traces like SXV or the unid carrier near 137689.5 which sometimes show up to 360° colour changes around the fading minima. I believe these directional errors are probably produced by two mechanisms:
 
- in a fade caused by two ore more azimutally oblique paths, the angle of the resulting magnetic field vector can be offset from that of either path by a large degree;
 
- for steep incidence, the horizontal conductors of the loops receive field components with apparent directions depending on the polarization rather than actual azimuth, and which may have been altered by Faraday rotation in the ionosphere. I noted in the past that some European stations tend to display more variation than others, and have attributed this to either more pronounced skywave radiation by relatively large horizontal TX antenna current components, or to groundwave blocking by mountainous terrain. A low-angle DX signal would naturally suffer less from this effect.
 
73 from Nuernberg
Markus, DF6NM





 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESdci-0001Ze-4u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESdcg-0001Xf-Tw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESdcP-0004F7-Th for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESdcP-0004Ey-9d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:17 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESeZS-0006hy-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:51:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 26203 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2005 16:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 20 Oct 2005 16:50:05 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c5d596$f8f0f9c0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <348354992.20051020180519@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:54:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: TA 19/20 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, all, > Good TA conditions last night... G3YXM and CT1DRP also showed copy of XGJ, XES and XKO, though not as good as the peak of the previous night. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:07:53 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EScxK-0007yJ-2F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:07:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EScxJ-0007wQ-Tl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:07:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EScvJ-00046u-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:05:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EScvJ-00046l-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:05:45 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESdcC-0008MP-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:50:07 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EScvE-0006RR-02; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:40 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bjIZriZ18edVkqJ3iXn+8+MeU9sDn5qJrHFAVKJIuiWgYxSpQ5MdsL@[84.133.100.30]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EScuu-1h4siG0; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:05:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <348354992.20051020180519@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bjIZriZ18edVkqJ3iXn+8+MeU9sDn5qJrHFAVKJIuiWgYxSpQ5MdsL X-TOI-MSGID: 8f44ee66-56a0-449f-8484-3e80c8cba81e Subject: LF: TA 19/20 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good TA conditions last night. Captured WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO on good levels. The QRSS120 signal of VO1NA looks not so strong on the QRSS30 captures, but on the QRSS120 screen fully readable the whole night. On the QRSS120 screen I captured some traces in the 137.7752 range, but nothing readable. May be XDW. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:47:06 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESNeC-0005kq-24 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:47:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESNeB-0005gM-TY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:47:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESNd3-0002hI-Sj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:45:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESNd2-0002h9-AK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:45:52 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.198.54] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESOZg-0002yk-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:46:33 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.113 ([204.127.197.113]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005101923445501400iqe7ne>; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:44:55 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.113; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:44:51 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:44:51 +0000 Message-Id: <101920052344.14785.4356DA7300056983000039C122007456720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: download from XE 14th 2300 MDT X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Laurence, Impressive copy with camcorder! Thanks, you are still my only report from XE land. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > Report from San Jose del Cabo, Mexico 9-14th Oct (In spite of a busted PC) > > http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg > > Heres the latest download above (which Im still working on) but signals > seen here include XFX XGJ and XKO - think thats John XES on the faster blips > on his channel. DCF39 was audible and looks real wide on Argo that night. > The 12th was another good TA night but 13th was poorer with DCF39 just > detectable on Argo. > > XGJ looks around >4100Kms away and as you can see XKO is putting out a > potent signal and was visible from Dusk to dawn everytime I looked. > > Im searching other tapes and might have just snagged TIL but working in it.. > > Rig = FRG100, antennae is L400B LF Engineering E probe on quad magmount on > small compact parked outside the front of a busy street in San Jose del Cabo > EL52/53 dependant on how I parked the car. > Audio recorded in Sony Digital 8 camcorder, High mountain ranges just 7 > miles to the North - arrid desert. Im about 100 yards from the beach here > but signals had crossed the small Baja peninsular and Sea of Cortez, rest of > the signals were coming across the continental landmass.. > > Laurence XE/KL 1 X mobile....as was > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESGli-0000rw-FG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESGli-0000rK-AF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:26:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESGkr-00021t-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:25:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESGkr-00021k-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:25:29 +0100 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESHhN-0001EW-Gv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:26:00 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (lns-bzn-39-82-255-59-14.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.59.14]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 16B6635F91 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:25:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001601c574eb$7d0a70e0$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> <000d01c5730b$fc604810$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> <43565426.2020303@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:25:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: LF activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Wolf , Tnx for info ! 73 qro Jean-Pierre ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF activity > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > That "DK4UK" was me, operating from our local club station DK4U, with a > final K at the end. > Some info: DK4U is a special call of DF0WD, located near Bielefeld in > N/W-DL, locator JO42FD. > > Equipment still the same as ever: IC706 with linear transverter 10.136 MHz > <-> 0.136 MHz. > Output approx. 120 watts, antenna 200 m wire, about 9..12 meters above > poor ground. > > Hope to have a 2-way contact with you in the future... > > 73, > Wolfgang "Wolf" DL4YHF . > > p.s. my stupid email-browser showed June 17 as the message date ... do you > have a time-warp machine or is this a relativistic effect ? ;-) > > > > Jean-Pierre Méré schrieb: > >> >> Hello all ! >> Yesterday, I copied DK4UK from 137 my loop is in direction of North >> America with much of statics! >> Marc , j'ai bien copié votre signal malgré mon cadre en direction de >> l'Amérique du nord et beaucoup de statiques ! >> 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:11:20 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESGX6-00006A-Qk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:11:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESGX6-00005Q-Bg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:11:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESGYY-0001vr-Kj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:12:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESGYY-0001vi-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:12:46 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESHF3-00009h-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:56:44 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1ESGXW-0006sR-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:11:42 +0200 Received: from p5486c336.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.195.54] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.53-RC2 #21) id 1ESGXW-0002js-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:11:42 +0200 Message-ID: <43565426.2020303@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:11:50 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> <000d01c5730b$fc604810$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> In-Reply-To: <000d01c5730b$fc604810$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> Subject: Re: LF: LF activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jean-Pierre, That "DK4UK" was me, operating from our local club station DK4U, with a final K at the end. Some info: DK4U is a special call of DF0WD, located near Bielefeld in N/W-DL, locator JO42FD. Equipment still the same as ever: IC706 with linear transverter 10.136 MHz <-> 0.136 MHz. Output approx. 120 watts, antenna 200 m wire, about 9..12 meters above poor ground. Hope to have a 2-way contact with you in the future... 73, Wolfgang "Wolf" DL4YHF . p.s. my stupid email-browser showed June 17 as the message date ... do you have a time-warp machine or is this a relativistic effect ? ;-) Jean-Pierre Méré schrieb: > > Hello all ! > Yesterday, I copied DK4UK from 137 my loop is in direction of North > America with much of statics! > Marc , j'ai bien copié votre signal malgré mon cadre en direction de > l'Amérique du nord et beaucoup de statiques ! > 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:33 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESBkG-0006VX-R2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ESBkG-0006VD-LX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ESBj7-0001O9-JT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:03:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ESBj6-0001O0-LZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:03:20 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ESCfW-0008Aw-J5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:03:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 19944 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2005 11:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2005 11:03:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c5d494$a12c23c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005101c5d468$bcf9c520$0201a8c0@private.network> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:05:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Interesting TA Peak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) There was a good peak in TA propagation last night around 0130-0200 UTC. As Warren pointed out, signals were excellent into the CT1DRP and G3YXM sites. This screen shot shows WD2XGJ, WD2XES and WD2XDW (no WD2XKO) on Brian's screen: http://www.w1tag.com/files/XESatDRP101805.jpg The signals faded quickly after that, and nothing much was seen on Brian's grabber overnight. Hartmut's captures show good signals all night, with a fade at the time of the above shot. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES5zD-0005be-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES5zD-0005bN-3e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ES5xy-0000py-S5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:54:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ES5xy-0000pp-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:54:18 +0100 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ES6eK-0004PG-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:38:06 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051019045021.CGJT976.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:50:21 -0600 Message-ID: <005101c5d468$bcf9c520$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:51:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL startup delayed tonight... Now ON Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Carbon fibre and LF verticals DON'T mix... ZZZZZaaaapppp, crackle, SSSSnnnnaaaapppp.... Hmmm, the SWR sees odd...
 
Lucky for me a good friend dropped by shortly after sunset and we repaired the antenna by replacing the carbon fibre pole with an equal length AL one.  Now to do a post mortem... First indications in the dark reveal arc damage and a structural failure as a result...
 
TIL is back on as of 0445UTC in DXsine mode...QRSS120 slow
 
73 Scott
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:51:34 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES0Iw-0002lD-CH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:51:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ES0Iw-0002l7-8R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:51:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ES0I1-0000Gk-BH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:50:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ES0I0-0000Gb-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:50:36 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ES1EB-0005rB-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:50:45 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (rmailcenter15.comcast.net[204.127.197.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <200510182249430130047d8ge>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:49:48 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.111; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:49:41 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:49:41 +0000 Message-Id: <101820052249.5611.43557C050004A94F000015EB22058861720B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Off Tonite X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit WD2XGJ will be off tonite, and possibly for a couple more days. This is being done for the following reasons: 1) Failure of the transmitter's cooling fan (sounds like a bad bearing). I have another fan which I will try. 2) Gives me the ability to 'borrow' the XGJ dds synthesizer for testing my other transmitter. 3) So that K2ORS can get on 75 meter AM without having to listen to the XGJ cooling fan or spurs from the 137kHz transmitter or the switching power supply used to power the G0MRF 137 kHz transmitter. WD2XGJ/K2ORS regrets any inconvenience that this change in operating schedule may cause. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:38:19 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERzA3-00087i-He for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:38:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERzA3-00087b-BJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:38:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERz8H-00006N-6c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:36:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERz8G-00006E-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:36:28 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ES04R-0005bV-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:36:36 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2557A5800A76 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3103 (wwinf3103 [172.22.158.30]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 21E2958000FF for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:36:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051018213622138.21E2958000FF@mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <31912264.1129671382124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.74.164] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) NA kicks in early at 21:20 UTC. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:48 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERrqd-0002hu-G7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERrqd-0002hm-7e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERrqB-0007wZ-J9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERrqB-0007wQ-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:19 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERsm9-0003nL-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:49:17 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005101813482511100o11iee>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:48:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4354FD47.3020507@att.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:48:55 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <18865187.1129627282494.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> In-Reply-To: <18865187.1129627282494.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> Subject: Re: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC wrote: > XKO still going strong at 09.30.Visible until 10.00. Thanks for the report Laurie! I turned XKO off at 1010 utc for about half an hour to look for signals from my west. I've added your report to the XKO Reception Report page: http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko_reception_reports.htm Please advise of any errors. 73, Dex, WD2XKO http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERqyE-000212-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERqyD-00020a-S7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:53:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERqzo-0007nm-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:55:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERqzo-0007nd-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:55:12 +0100 Received: from bay102-f36.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.46] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERrfr-0007PY-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:38:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:54:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:54:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2005 12:55:00.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[264E26A0:01C5D3E3] Subject: LF: download from XE 14th 2300 MDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Report from San Jose del Cabo, Mexico 9-14th Oct (In spite of a busted PC) http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Heres the latest download above (which Im still working on) but signals seen here include XFX XGJ and XKO - think thats John XES on the faster blips on his channel. DCF39 was audible and looks real wide on Argo that night. The 12th was another good TA night but 13th was poorer with DCF39 just detectable on Argo. XGJ looks around >4100Kms away and as you can see XKO is putting out a potent signal and was visible from Dusk to dawn everytime I looked. Im searching other tapes and might have just snagged TIL but working in it.. Rig = FRG100, antennae is L400B LF Engineering E probe on quad magmount on small compact parked outside the front of a busy street in San Jose del Cabo EL52/53 dependant on how I parked the car. Audio recorded in Sony Digital 8 camcorder, High mountain ranges just 7 miles to the North - arrid desert. Im about 100 yards from the beach here but signals had crossed the small Baja peninsular and Sea of Cortez, rest of the signals were coming across the continental landmass.. Laurence XE/KL 1 X mobile....as was From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERoKh-0006nh-R7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERoKh-0006nG-IS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERoKa-0007Uw-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERoKZ-0007Un-Mw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:27 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERp0e-0005qk-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:47:57 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.1a3.3e9e246c (18403) for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: <1a3.3e9e246c.3086214d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:58:37 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 Subject: Re: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
John,
 
Interestingly, Alan G3NYK and I had some contact with a BBC person at a NPL Time & Frequency Club meeting a year or so ago. The subject under discussion between us at that time related to TV synch pulse stability and Droitwich etc. etc. The guy was extremely helpful and seemed to have contacts in all the right areas. I wonder if your contact is the same person or if you might like this topic to be made known to our contact?
 
73 de Pat g4gvw 
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERnfS-0003Ik-03 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERnfR-0003I7-Pf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERnez-0007ME-DI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERnez-0007M5-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:29 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERoL2-0005ch-RT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:57 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 858535800088 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:21:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3103 (wwinf3103 [172.22.158.30]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C3EF5800087 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:21:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051018092122509.7C3EF5800087@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <18865187.1129627282494.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.139.79.17] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:21:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050207080009040702050308" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050207080009040702050308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whoops, my last too premature, traces of XGJ and XES until 09.30. 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--------------050207080009040702050308-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:06:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERmUF-00026h-Q3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:06:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERmUF-00025U-LX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:06:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERmTs-0007C1-VT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:05:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERmTs-0007Bs-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:05:56 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 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All 4 TA signals seen last night. NA came in early at 22.00 (BST) followed by XES at 23.15. Band was very noisy from 00.00 until 0730, but XGJ, XES and XKO came out of the noise and were good signals until 09.00. NA last seen at 07.30. Sun rise here was at 07.33.

73 Laurie.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:21:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERlmN-0002Xc-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:21:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERlmM-0002WQ-VQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:20:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERlkB-00072q-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:18:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERlkB-00072h-4o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:18:43 +0100 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERmg4-0002M9-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:18:33 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1088518000BB for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:18:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-1-32.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.230.32]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 81D1218000B0 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:32 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051018071745531.81D1218000B0@mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200510180916520471.22C4D9C4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <435402AB.7080004@g3ysx.org.uk> References: <435402AB.7080004@g3ysx.org.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:16:52 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Stewart, >When I >asked the speaker about the pollution he said that he >thought it was confined to +/- 10KHz, and was quite >surprised when I explained about 136KHz. Interestingly >someone from the BBC spoke to me afterward and said >that there was a problem with interference with Radio4 >in the Rugby area, that was attributable to the >Loran-C Tx. The speaker should come on a radio field meet, preferably in the Peak District or in Yorkshire and have a listen on 87kHz USB. >Anyway, if anyone has a recording I will play it to >the NPL speaker to show him what is going on. When would you like a recording? I can ask around. 73 John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERhpu-0001rq-6s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERhpt-0001rg-Vc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERhpG-0006jC-DV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:07:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERhpF-0006j3-EZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:07:41 +0100 Received: from bay102-f24.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.34] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERil2-0001eC-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:07:26 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:07:14 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:07:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:07:14 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2005 03:07:14.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A308DC0:01C5D391] Subject: LF: digital recordings in Baja Mexico dl52/dl53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Welll I was suspicious that recording from a hi 8 digital camcorder an audio signal not even hard wired to the fr100b would produce poor results from the car parked near Highway 1 in Southern Mexico using an E probe in the roof -i However after looking at both in frequency resolution and quality and running Argo with two screens the results are manifestly "good" (hurrah!!) as I replay the first of the tapes tonight One screen is presently looking at dcf39 on 138.83 and giving good results within 0.03 Hz of nominal and Im seeing clearly just as it was live the bespoke dcf39 signature. Its at the moment below audible signal but s/n wise it looks good.... The other is open in the watering hole and is clearly showing XKO on what was my noizy first night of recording at 2245 PDT 12th from San Jose del Cabo...its going to be interesting to run the addtional 6 hours of tapes and see what turns up. Nice thing about digital recording on tape>>>> The first night was really noizy with Tstorms to my SE so hoping for better things as we progress. Laurence KL1X/5 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERfiG-0007uB-JJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERfiG-0007u0-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERfhs-0006Nf-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:51:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERfhr-0006NW-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:51:55 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERgdc-0001KY-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:51:37 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051018005146.KKLA18467.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:51:46 -0600 Message-ID: <008001c5d37e$34e21920$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:52:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TIL to remain in DXsine mode... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
TIL will remain in DXsine mode for the next few days.  Period 10minutes, amplitude ~0.1Hz p-p.  She's hanging around 137778.1Hz. Best viewed with ARGO QRSS120 Slow.
 
I'm running the beacon from local dusk to dawn 0100 - 1500UTC...
 
About 450W into my slightly improved vertical... Been getting reliable reports throughout NA for the last week or so...
 
It would be interesting if stations beyond NA had a look...
 
73 Scott
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:52:42 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERemV-0002vK-36 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:52:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERemU-0002uc-Vc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:52:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERelk-0006D0-Fi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:51:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERelj-0006Cr-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:51:51 +0100 Received: from ns1.switchnet.com ([209.59.197.26] helo=server.switchnet.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERfhT-00019o-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:51:32 +0100 Received: from dan75-1-81-57-233-115.fbx.proxad.net ([81.57.233.115] helo=parissn2) by server.switchnet.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1ERelg-0002SK-F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:51:48 -0700 Message-ID: <005801c5d375$cdbe6ad0$0702a8c0@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <435402AB.7080004@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:52:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.switchnet.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com Subject: LF: Re: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Stewart, The USCG spec for LORAN requires that at least 99% of the radiated energy be contained within the 90 to 110 kHz band. Assuming that limits for the 250 kW station at Rugby are the same, then it is permitted to emit 2.5 kW pulses of QRM into spectrum licensed to others. I know of no other service that allows spurious emissions to be suppressed by only 20 dB. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Bryant" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C > Has anyone got a recording of the effect of the Rugby > Loran-C on the 136KHz band? > > I am at the International Telecoms Synchronisation Forum > where NPL were talking about Loran-C as a possible > alternative to GPS for frequency reference. When I > asked the speaker about the pollution he said that he > thought it was confined to +/- 10KHz, and was quite > surprised when I explained about 136KHz. Interestingly > someone from the BBC spoke to me afterward and said > that there was a problem with interference with Radio4 > in the Rugby area, that was attributable to the > Loran-C Tx. > > Anyway, if anyone has a recording I will play it to > the NPL speaker to show him what is going on. > > 73 > > Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:30 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERd00-0003eX-Dn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERd00-0003ce-5d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcza-0005yK-Vw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcza-0005yB-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:02 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERdfT-0002X4-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:41:20 +0100 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.150]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2005 23:57:57 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9HLvrHH005852 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:57:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zen.co.uk (ams-clip-vpn-dhcp449.cisco.com [10.61.65.193]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03172 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:57:52 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <43541E5F.1000906@zen.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:57:51 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004601c5d360$0fab1a80$f500a8c0@Dell5150> In-Reply-To: <004601c5d360$0fab1a80$f500a8c0@Dell5150> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) A minute or so would be good. Before & after would be very good. Thanks Stewart Dave Pick wrote: >Stewart > >How much of it would you like?! > >I can do you a wav file. >I think I've got some "before" recordings too. > >Dave G3YXM > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant >Sent: 17 October 2005 21:00 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C > >Has anyone got a recording of the effect of the Rugby Loran-C on the 136KHz >band? > >I am at the International Telecoms Synchronisation Forum where NPL were >talking about Loran-C as a possible alternative to GPS for frequency >reference. When I asked the speaker about the pollution he said that he >thought it was confined to +/- 10KHz, and was quite surprised when I >explained about 136KHz. Interestingly someone from the BBC spoke to me >afterward and said that there was a problem with interference with Radio4 in >the Rugby area, that was attributable to the Loran-C Tx. > >Anyway, if anyone has a recording I will play it to the NPL speaker to show >him what is going on. > >73 > >Stewart > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:55 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERcLm-0004aU-MD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:55 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERcLm-0004aF-HN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcLb-0005p0-Bi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcLa-0005or-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:42 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERdHH-0000ct-0J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:16:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 36580 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2005 21:16:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.25.119 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2005 21:16:35 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:16:37 +0100 Message-ID: <004601c5d360$0fab1a80$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXTVWdgNGzOT1ovSIuJQdnr1bU/bAACndrg In-Reply-To: <435402AB.7080004@g3ysx.org.uk> Subject: LF: RE: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Stewart How much of it would you like?! I can do you a wav file. I think I've got some "before" recordings too. Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: 17 October 2005 21:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Has anyone got a recording of the effect of the Rugby Loran-C on the 136KHz band? I am at the International Telecoms Synchronisation Forum where NPL were talking about Loran-C as a possible alternative to GPS for frequency reference. When I asked the speaker about the pollution he said that he thought it was confined to +/- 10KHz, and was quite surprised when I explained about 136KHz. Interestingly someone from the BBC spoke to me afterward and said that there was a problem with interference with Radio4 in the Rugby area, that was attributable to the Loran-C Tx. Anyway, if anyone has a recording I will play it to the NPL speaker to show him what is going on. 73 Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:10:05 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERcF9-0001sC-SH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:10:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERcF9-0001s1-OD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:10:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcES-0005ja-UD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:09:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERcES-0005jR-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:09:20 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERcuG-0002HB-GH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:52:37 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ERcDP-00074e-00; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:08:15 +0200 Received: from 192.168.2.2 (Go--48ZE8exu4ee38ghYnGAjoctBNMp26e3IGx6uMCOsKUCWSBj2gn@[84.133.92.131]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ERcDH-0Bh7y40; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:08:07 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:07:56 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1153091394.20051017230756@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Go--48ZE8exu4ee38ghYnGAjoctBNMp26e3IGx6uMCOsKUCWSBj2gn X-TOI-MSGID: 8e381f44-c228-4e01-a141-4a201aff53df Subject: LF: Early TA reception Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060500080801040204090004" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060500080801040204090004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Very early reception of VO1NA tonight. 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with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERb9h-0003lC-2s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:00:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERb9g-0003l4-Uk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:00:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERb92-0005Yk-Vp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:59:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERb92-0005Yb-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:59:40 +0100 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERbot-0001qC-Gl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:42:56 +0100 Received: from [82.68.48.134] (helo=g3ysx.org.uk) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ERb90-0000q3-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:59:38 +0000 Message-ID: <435402AB.7080004@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:59:39 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.48.134] Subject: LF: Recording of Rugby Loran-C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Has anyone got a recording of the effect of the Rugby Loran-C on the 136KHz band? I am at the International Telecoms Synchronisation Forum where NPL were talking about Loran-C as a possible alternative to GPS for frequency reference. When I asked the speaker about the pollution he said that he thought it was confined to +/- 10KHz, and was quite surprised when I explained about 136KHz. Interestingly someone from the BBC spoke to me afterward and said that there was a problem with interference with Radio4 in the Rugby area, that was attributable to the Loran-C Tx. Anyway, if anyone has a recording I will play it to the NPL speaker to show him what is going on. 73 Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:30:13 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERYoN-0003s4-FY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:30:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERYoN-0003pm-1Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:30:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERYna-0005Hn-J7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:29:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERYna-0005He-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:29:22 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERZTI-0000wu-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:12:35 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2005 18:27:53 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,222,1125874800"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145"; a="42442623:sNHT37580515" Received: from 80-43-51-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([80.43.51.17]:1561 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ERYjr-0005P1-K4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:25:31 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090909080007010402070504" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090909080007010402070504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, The attached clip covers from about 2330z to 0100z showing XGJ & XES, the rest of the morning signals were just visible with a couple of short peaks at 0130z to 0200z, 0300z & 0400z. 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for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERWOx-0000as-7y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:55:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERWO6-00050d-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:54:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERWO6-00050U-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:54:54 +0100 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com ([206.191.0.217]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERXJb-0007Sp-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:54:23 +0100 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.214]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9HEslvE013265; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:48 -0400 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar.magma.ca (nrtcorback-216-168-120-129.nrtco.net [216.168.120.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9HEsigi005435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:46 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20051017101319.01c38e28@magma.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:54:49 -0400 To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <004801c5d038$c38c3960$8d01a8c0@JKA> References: <004801c5d038$c38c3960$8d01a8c0@JKA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: AFRICAM Ver 5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Having noticed AFRICAM is vulnerable to sound card sampling rate errors, I added the ability to specify the exact (nearest integer) sampling rate. AFRICAM defines its bit times by counting samples, so if the actual rate was too far off nominal the program could not sync or hold sync. I am always amazed by how far off the actual sampling rate is for some (most?) sound cards. For example, I just recorded an audio file under Windows XP using Cool Edit, asking for 8000 samples per second. I input an 800.0 Hz sinewave synthesized from a crystal source, then measured the frequency of the 800-Hz tone in the recording. The actual sampling rate turned out to be 8100 s/s! AFRICAM defaults to the following nominal rates: SB16 or compatible : 8000 s/s ESS688 chip based : 8200 s/s Sigma-Delta board : 7200 s/s If you can measure the *true* sampling rate of your sound source and type it in, it will help considerably in establishing and maintaining proper sync. One way to get AFRICAM to run under Win-XP is to record an audio file off the air, like the original WOLF. The desired format is 8 bit unsigned (single precision) or 16-bit signed (double precision) MONO values of raw data sampled at say 8000 s/s. Cool edit can do this: select the raw data (.pcm) mode, and be sure the saved file name has an extension of .AUD. Then when you invoke AFRICAM, use the "DISK" command line parameter - which tells AFRICAM to take its audio from disk instead of trying to talk directly to a sound card or sigma-delta board connected to a serial port. That makes Win XP happy. You still get to type in the exact sampling rate at which the audio was recorded (it won't be 8000 unless you get real lucky). In a pinch, you can record a 16-bit MONO .WAV file at 8000 s/s and just change the file extension from .WAV to .AUD before passing it to AFRICAM. That way the first 40 or so words of the file (.WAV header) will be treated as audio samples when they are not, but it doesn't matter too much. Version 5.1 of AFRICAM is available from my web site: http://www.magma.ca/~ve2iq Good luck! Bill VE2IQ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:48 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERTxw-00060n-9o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERTxv-00060I-Mr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:19:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERTww-0004lR-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERTww-0004lI-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:42 +0100 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERUsN-0006F4-9T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:08 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ERTwp-00038o-03; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:35 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XYTXcGZCZe0tcb9Mk75EmDnE5bZom9qtbC8VIFit6rFmuxv6BFnWcQ@[84.133.95.214]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ERTwk-23bnA80; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:18:28 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <611142796.20051017141828@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XYTXcGZCZe0tcb9Mk75EmDnE5bZom9qtbC8VIFit6rFmuxv6BFnWcQ X-TOI-MSGID: eaa433c3-bdb8-4f09-ba19-cddc57fb6a56 Subject: LF: TA 16/17 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured good signals of VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA, not so strong last night, can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:14:37 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERPCc-00021v-F4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:14:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERPCY-00020k-Qs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:14:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERPBn-0004Jv-VX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:13:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERPBm-0004Jm-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:13:42 +0100 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERQ77-0004OL-7l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:13:01 +0100 Received: from jpmpcportable (unknown [82.255.59.14]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F788942A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:13:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000d01c5730b$fc604810$0100a8c0@jpmpcportable> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:12:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: LF: LF activity Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060001090806040404020106" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060001090806040404020106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> > Hi Hartmut, > I'm testing new antenna. > Have you plot of my signal? > Now 260W but at 21:00 I turn off my transmitter. > 73 > Marc Hello all ! Yesterday, I copied DK4UK from 137 my loop is in direction of North America with much of statics! 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HT1+BBlS5EiSJU2eRJlS5UqWLV2+hBlT5kyaNW3exJlT506ePX3+BBpU6FCiRY0eRZpU6VKm TZ0+hRpV6lSqVa1exZpV61auXb1+BRtW7FiyZc2eRZtW7Vq2bd2+hRtX7ly6de3exZtX716+ ff3+BRxY8GDCU4UNH0acWPFixo0dP4YcWfJkypUtX8acWfNmzp09fwYdWvRo0qVNn0adWvVq 1q1dv4YdW/Zs2rVt38adW/du3r19/wYeXPhw4sWNH0eeXPnytQEBADs= --------------080804080303070101090707-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAH-0006Me-7k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAH-0006L5-3F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERGA9-0003IJ-Gf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERGA9-0003IA-4e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:25 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERGpe-00026W-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:18:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 58732 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2005 21:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.34.196 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2005 21:35:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c5d299$83a0a620$c4227ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "Lowfer \(LWCA\)" , "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:34:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Hartmutt's NPG plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Scott. the NPG plots from Hartmutt show and interesting point. The signal is starting to build at a time when the ground shadow is between 1000 and 1800km east of the transmitter. That means the 100km altitude level is not in darkness for about 3000km to the east. It suggest that in good conditions the signal can be launched into the darkness zone up to a hour of more before sunset. We have to remember that this is an east-west path and as such will be different to your Pacific path to Make and the boys at Quartz hill. However it does throw a lifeline to us in the UK suggesting that there may be more time available under favourable conditions. Thanks for flagging this up.....given its frequency slot I did not think we would be able to see it in Europe. It will certainly be interesting to find out how long the path does persist. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:29 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAB-0002JX-OU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERGAB-0002JE-AT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERG9l-0003HS-Vj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERG9l-0003HJ-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:35:01 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERH4w-0002mM-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:34:08 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ERG8j-0007mG-00; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TiVCysZYQe8Q5UBzYvIbtWZfXvSEK9NwJkCIf3l7xBZoXrfe5S6swg@[84.133.102.215]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ERG8W-27bpHE0; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:33:44 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:33:46 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <475109227.20051016233346@t-online.de> To: F5MAF FREE In-Reply-To: <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> References: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TiVCysZYQe8Q5UBzYvIbtWZfXvSEK9NwJkCIf3l7xBZoXrfe5S6swg X-TOI-MSGID: 379fbf81-0b37-4f2b-b808-b8de0abe929f Subject: Re: LF: LF activity Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030902030908020709040009" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030902030908020709040009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Marc, hard to copy but I believe this was your test on 137.705-137.706 until 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[193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERFXU-00039B-DG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:55:28 +0100 Received: from mailfe13.tele2.fr ([212.247.155.140] helo=swip.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERGCx-0001uW-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:38:22 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: yN3knf/L3V+DBMN2/0a2H8k0MQ8ElzHVe/Nj1y1L7js= Received: from [213.103.238.67] ([213.103.238.67] verified) by mailfe13.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTP id 36715522 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:51:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4352BD56.10308@free.fr> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:51:34 +0200 From: F5MAF FREE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: LF activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut Wolff a écrit : >Updated my website: > >http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm > > >with captures of VO1NA, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO, G3XIZ, >DK4U, DJ6GT, G3YXM, SP5ZCC, OK2BVG, DF6NM and OK1DWF. >Sorry, I missed F5MAF using wrong antenna at that time. > >I saw a very strong peak here of NPG last night. >Plot can be seen here: > >http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm > > >73 > >Hartmut > >Locator:JO52ho >www.h-wolff.de > > > > > > Hi Hartmut, I'm testing new antenna. Have you plot of my signal? Now 260W but at 21:00 I turn off my transmitter. 73 Marc From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:21:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERF0k-0004Ps-4R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:21:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERF0k-0004PW-0b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:21:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERF0R-00032C-0b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:21:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERF0Q-000323-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:21:18 +0100 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERFva-0002ZI-Ba for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:20:24 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ERF0L-0002iN-00; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:21:13 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ZCTTpMZ6reqMu-DHLGGGwtS3YnRStqYp+j80-9w7gVT3m9wkaqFFEP@[84.133.102.215]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ERF0I-27ReT20; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:21:10 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:21:04 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1723215663.20051016222104@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ZCTTpMZ6reqMu-DHLGGGwtS3YnRStqYp+j80-9w7gVT3m9wkaqFFEP X-TOI-MSGID: 281c907e-d8db-4e6e-a879-038ecefe3b17 Subject: LF: LF activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Updated my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm with captures of VO1NA, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO, G3XIZ, DK4U, DJ6GT, G3YXM, SP5ZCC, OK2BVG, DF6NM and OK1DWF. Sorry, I missed F5MAF using wrong antenna at that time. I saw a very strong peak here of NPG last night. Plot can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:31:15 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERDHv-0000cq-3E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:31:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERDHu-0000ck-VN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:31:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERDGv-0002lN-QL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:30:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERDGv-0002lE-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:30:13 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav1.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.105] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERDwM-0000xJ-CP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:13:04 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:29:43 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV1.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:29:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <101620051813.15915.4352983D0009B3DE00003E2B22007610640B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:29:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:29:42 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2005 18:29:43.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[93AAA1C0:01C5D27F] Subject: LF: Re: WD2XGJ Web page Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Looks fancy Warren.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:13 PM
Subject: LF: WD2XGJ Web page

Thanks to Dex, WD2XGJ now has a web page:
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi




From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:18:50 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERD5t-0002Zb-NW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:18:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERD5t-0002ZF-EB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:18:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERD5k-0002fG-Dg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:18:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERD5j-0002f7-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:18:39 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERE0s-0001vn-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:17:43 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.28.97) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 434CEDC5000E168E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:18:31 +0200 Message-ID: <003401c5d276$69cacf00$d28024d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF-EU" Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:24:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: RX OK2BVG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020800000208020308040403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020800000208020308040403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
16./10/2005   1810z
 
Good signal in JN18CW
 
73: Jeff
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Wow, that is an excellent site. Thanks a bunch!!!
 
Mike
WE0H
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: LF: MW DX

Walter,

from this website   http://www.myradiobase.de/mediumwave/mwoffset.txt
the frequency is 1499.997 (Date: 10th of July 2005)

73
Hartmut

> Do any of the W subscribers know of somebody in the US who could measure the precise frequency (to better than 1 Hz) of KUMU Hawaii on 1500 kHz?
> I do a bit of MW DX'ing as well as LF and last night got five traces on 1500 kHz of which I suspect KUMU is one. Can't identify by ear of course so
> only way is by freq. Incidentally WTOP Washington on this freq is on the trace here 24 hrs/day. Strong enough at night to identify by ear.

> Walter G3JKV.


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:45:19 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERCZS-00050k-2Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:45:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERCZR-00050M-T7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:45:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERCYG-0002Mn-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:44:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERCYF-0002Me-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:44:03 +0100 Received: from mailfe12.tele2.fr ([212.247.155.108] helo=swip.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERDDe-0000ek-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:26:54 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: yN3knf/L3V+DBMN2/0a2H8k0MQ8ElzHVe/Nj1y1L7js= Received: from [80.170.105.243] ([80.170.105.243] verified) by mailfe12.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTP id 35502029 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:40:05 +0200 Message-ID: <43529076.2070500@free.fr> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:40:06 +0200 From: F5MAF FREE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051016171220.80656.qmail@web86608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051016171220.80656.qmail@web86608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: LF: TEST G3XIZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) CHRISTOPHER OSBORN a écrit : > Many thanks for the report Jeff, > I'm just trying to get sufficient cooling to the filter toroids as > they are very hot ! > CU soon > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > */F6CWN /* wrote: > > 16./10/2005 1655z > > Hello Chris! > > I think that your PA is OK. > Good WE and see you soon! > > 73: Jeff F6CWN/p > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Messenger > > NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail > Hi Chris and Jeff, My first contact since my mouving at Mondonville (2Kms from my old QRA). 15 Kms north west from Toulouse (JN02PQ) The signal was weaker than the last weekend. 230W in T antenna. Top at 8m 28m long with two wires, 1 meter spacing . Ground with two wires 20m long. Received with 8m loop, Jfet (VN10) and TRCV TS570DG. Log : Spectran. 73' Marc www.qsl.net/f5maf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:38 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERC3q-0006uc-2j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ERC3p-0006tA-U3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ERC3f-00029F-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ERC3f-000296-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:27 +0100 Received: from web86608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERCym-0001g8-0W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:11:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 80658 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2005 17:12:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zc2N0EwKJ/oXjMj1qtgExrmUllFF7OfEzbQuIQSPuTXrdsu4ShrKO0169NQ38VDSRooWKRfpE1bs8I5kOXJR7CM+Aui/9NlVxZbL1fWsPrfA/gdJppsNIilTL42UPPuuZkf4RnYkz41ZeM3rktI0PXK/NjvAPY3DCZu4ceEzizg= ; Message-ID: <20051016171220.80656.qmail@web86608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:20 BST Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:12:20 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001601c5d26b$d2851d80$d28024d5@jeff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TEST G3XIZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Many thanks for the report Jeff,
I'm just trying to get sufficient cooling to the filter toroids as they are very hot !
CU soon
73 Chris G3XIZ

F6CWN <f6cwn@tiscali.fr> wrote:
16./10/2005   1655z
 
Hello Chris!
 
 I think that your PA is OK.
Good WE and see you soon!
 
73: Jeff F6CWN/p
 

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16./10/2005   1655z
 
Hello Chris!
 
 I think that your PA is OK.
Good WE and see you soon!
 
73: Jeff F6CWN/p
 
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1ER9QZ-00077E-G9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:23:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ER9Pq-0001p0-VT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:23:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ER9Pq-0001or-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:23:10 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERAKp-000189-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:22:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 9819 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2005 14:21:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.25.119 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2005 14:21:58 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c5d25c$f67e1750$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXSXPXl2fnAWc53RiKSAJic5EbU3A== Subject: LF: G3KMP silent key Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear all. I hear from Bill G0AKY (Via Steve GW4ALG) that his good friend Colin G3KMP died earlier this year whilst on holiday in Germany. Although he didn't make all that many QSOs on LF Colin was a keen experimenter and a great guy to chat with about LF. 73 Dave G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:49:04 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER64a-000874-Tw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:49:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER64a-00086r-Qg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:49:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ER647-0001Za-AH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:48:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ER646-0001ZR-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:48:30 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ER6z3-0000SK-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:47:24 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 27246 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2005 12:47:18 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Oct 2005 12:47:18 +0200 Message-ID: <43522FAC.8@wp.pl> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:47:08 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <30.7d1d381a.3082e1f4@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <30.7d1d381a.3082e1f4@aol.com> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(0.999990) AS3=NO AS4=NO Subject: Re: LF: DF6NM... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello everybody, Thank you, Markus for a nice QSO, at the beginning your signal was audible enough for a CW reception here, it degraded later though. I am a little surprised with the strength of Loran lines this year. Last year they were barely visible and only at times, now it's a well audible clicking, almost all the time. The only change in the SP5ZCC station is the length of the horizontal part of the T antenna used also for reception (now ca. 160-180m of horizontal part). That shouldn't have made that big difference(?). The grabber is running until the evening today at http://sq5bpm.sp5zcc.waw.pl/grab , I will probably come to the club to launch some CQs in the afternoon. I am not brave enough to launch the transmitter remotely, however I could do it from home as I have a remote VNC access to the PC used for LF, through a wlan 2.4GHz link ;) I hope that the next version of the LF transmitter will be better, so it can be (almost) safely remotely operated. 73! Marek SQ5BPM MarkusVester@aol.com wrote: > Dear Dave and Jeff, > > many thanks for the reports, and also thanks to Marek SP5ZCC for the > nice QSO we had a few minutes later. > > Yes, there's a GRI 6731 line on 137698.7075 - these are rather weak > here in the hinterland so I tend to forget :-( I actually may have > caused the same type of difficulty for Marek when I transmitted on > 137706.0 - his grabber shows a regular pattern of Chayka (GRI 8000) > lines every 6.25 Hz. > > Last night that West Coast NPG was visible for many hours, up to 1.5 > µV/m both on 135925.1 and 975.1 - fascinating stuff indeed. > > 73 and best wishes > Markus, DF6NM > > In einer eMail vom 15.10.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit > schreibt ganymede444@btopenworld.com: > >> Your dot frequency is right on one of our horrid Rugby Loran lines near >> 137700. If you QSY 1 or 2 Hz HF your signal would be in the clear in >> the UK. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:27:52 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER5k6-0001HT-NP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:27:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER5k6-0001HM-DR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:27:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ER5jt-0001Tp-Ef for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:27:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ER5jt-0001Tg-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:27:37 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ER6ep-0000Nx-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:26:30 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ER5jm-0000ic-00; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:27:30 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bV2rJMZroe3Af6z4hpkpfIBYZlCIoA27mX8ZVGLHkXGV1IjJMvSDrQ@[84.133.82.199]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ER5jl-01VUcy0; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:27:29 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:27:27 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1606191075.20051016122727@t-online.de> To: Walter Blanchard In-Reply-To: <001f01c5d235$1a134fa0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> References: <001f01c5d235$1a134fa0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bV2rJMZroe3Af6z4hpkpfIBYZlCIoA27mX8ZVGLHkXGV1IjJMvSDrQ X-TOI-MSGID: e147c28b-374b-411b-9f08-7ab1bcefe422 Subject: Re: LF: MW DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Walter, from this website http://www.myradiobase.de/mediumwave/mwoffset.txt the frequency is 1499.997 (Date: 10th of July 2005) 73 Hartmut > Do any of the W subscribers know of somebody in the US who could measure the precise frequency (to better than 1 Hz) of KUMU Hawaii on 1500 kHz? > I do a bit of MW DX'ing as well as LF and last night got five traces on 1500 kHz of which I suspect KUMU is one. Can't identify by ear of course so > only way is by freq. Incidentally WTOP Washington on this freq is on the trace here 24 hrs/day. Strong enough at night to identify by ear. > Walter G3JKV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:39:38 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER4zQ-00048Q-GF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:39:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ER4zQ-00047N-Ar for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:39:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ER4yl-0001M8-2A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:38:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ER4yk-0001Lz-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:38:54 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ER5e4-0006hB-CR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:21:37 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-167-119.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.167.119] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9G9aWRN028519 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:36:40 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01c5d235$1a134fa0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:36:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: MW DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Sorry to be a little (but not much) off-topic.
Do any of the W subscribers know of somebody in the US who could measure the precise frequency (to better than 1 Hz) of KUMU Hawaii on 1500 kHz?
I do a bit of MW DX'ing as well as LF and last night got five traces on 1500 kHz of which I suspect KUMU is one. Can't identify by ear of course so
only way is by freq. Incidentally WTOP Washington on this freq is on the trace here 24 hrs/day. Strong enough at night to identify by ear.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:39 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQzCQ-0004ul-Bq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQzCN-0004to-Qh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:28:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQzBa-000115-3v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:27:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQzBZ-00010w-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:27:45 +0100 Received: from outbound01.telus.net ([199.185.220.220] helo=priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQzqi-0005Vj-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:10:22 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051016032347.WKUO26926.priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:23:47 -0600 Message-ID: <028901c5d201$20cf8b80$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:24:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DCF39 into Vancouver, BC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090403050307030301030909" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090403050307030301030909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Finally after a year of trying DCF39 showed up here just as sunset occurred...  Then the neighbours light dimmers came on and wreaked the fun...
 
My calibration is alittle high as I had no loran lines to bring me in the last few tenths of a Hz. I ran the plot in ARGO's 60sec dot 'slow' mode
 
I used the TX vertical to make this reception...
 
73 Scott
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post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQusu-0008RX-3o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:52:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQusR-0007gQ-KF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:51:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQusQ-0007gH-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:51:42 +0100 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQvXa-0006Fo-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:34:15 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.30.7d1d381a (48552) for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:51:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <30.7d1d381a.3082e1f4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:51:32 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: DF6NM... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Dave and Jeff,

many thanks for the reports, and also thanks to Marek SP5ZCC for the nice QSO we had a few minutes later.

Yes, there's a GRI 6731 line on 137698.7075 - these are rather weak here in the hinterland so I tend to forget :-(  I actually may have caused the same type of difficulty for Marek when I transmitted on 137706.0 - his grabber shows a regular pattern of Chayka (GRI 8000) lines every 6.25 Hz.

Last night that West Coast NPG was visible for many hours, up to 1.5 µV/m both on 135925.1 and 975.1 - fascinating stuff indeed.

73 and best wishes
Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 15.10.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt ganymede444@btopenworld.com:

Your dot frequency is right on one of our horrid Rugby Loran lines near
137700. If you QSY 1 or 2 Hz HF your signal would be in the clear in the UK.


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:14:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQtMC-0007UV-D6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:14:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQtMC-0007Sv-6X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:14:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQtON-0007Wk-Kb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:16:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQtON-0007Wb-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:16:35 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQu3U-0005r5-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:59:06 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.22.170) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 434CEDC5000A6844 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:12:41 +0200 Message-ID: <003f01c5d1c5$7a892d20$aa1624d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF-EU" Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:17:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: DF6NM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040307000200000407020403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040307000200000407020403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
15./10/2005   2103z
 
Terrrrrific signal Markus!
 
73: Jeff F6CWN/p (JN18CW)
 
 
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15 Oct 2005 20:51:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.159.59 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2005 20:51:23 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:52:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <152546786.20051015131005@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: DF6NM... 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00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:11:53 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQjx7-0001UJ-I6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:11:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQjx7-0001UB-Dk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:11:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQjva-0006fI-IY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQjva-0006f9-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQkq2-00050i-GS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:08:38 +0100 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQjvV-0007qJ-00; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:09 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rfiWYTZDoe2JHGPxyp0uPbI2+9TU0SgjFtcosYwP-CfTRiMQ4LbMoL@[84.133.91.150]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQjvT-1QUztg0; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:10:05 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <152546786.20051015131005@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rfiWYTZDoe2JHGPxyp0uPbI2+9TU0SgjFtcosYwP-CfTRiMQ4LbMoL X-TOI-MSGID: 607f9267-0bdd-48cd-a2c5-5a3caa154a01 Subject: LF: TA 14/15 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) There was a lot of multipath fading last night. The noise raised about 2300 utc. Good peaks of XGJ and XKO. Lost "NA" when the noise raised until 0400. Then copied the signal until about 0600. >From the WD2XES Jason transmission starting 2230 I copied the first 4 "WD2XES" but no full callsign string after that. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQiAx-0002hi-8d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQiAx-0002hQ-3C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQiAK-0006Pv-FK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQiAJ-0006Pm-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:20 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQj4l-0004hs-Tq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:15:41 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2005 10:17:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AAAAACFlUEOGCwEBAQEHCAIl X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,216,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="32213371:sNHT30662191" Received: from 212-139-45-153.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([212.139.45.153]:2165 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EQi7w-0003J7-8D; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:14:52 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Cc: "LW Wave" Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:17:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: TA 14/15th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, Very weak XKO about 2300z then interference wipe out from 0000z to 0500z then weak XKO again to 0700z & weak XGJ 0630 to 0730 ish. SpecLab at QRSS30. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:33:50 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQhUD-0008JL-JI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:33:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQhUD-0008Iz-GB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:33:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQhSZ-0006H6-LR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:32:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQhSZ-0006Gr-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:32:07 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQi7U-0002lW-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:14:25 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQhRZ-0008Mu-01; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:31:05 +0200 Received: from HW1 (T5MznGZLZenNX1S+pDC4DOGxivd2FNYoj51dZUofosCvs84pj7F6Et@[84.133.91.150]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQhRS-23Ylcm0; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:30:58 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:30:53 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <624036639.20051015103053@t-online.de> To: Walter Blanchard In-Reply-To: <002501c5d161$745f6950$2101a8c0@AUG2004> References: <002501c5d161$745f6950$2101a8c0@AUG2004> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: T5MznGZLZenNX1S+pDC4DOGxivd2FNYoj51dZUofosCvs84pj7F6Et X-TOI-MSGID: a5d282ee-2195-4dea-95e0-8d82316a38ce Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Walter, > Who's the mystery sig? Been there consistently last few nights. Loran C EIDI 137.776174 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:23:24 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQhK7-0001Av-T2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:23:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQhK7-0001Ao-IJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:23:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQhIc-0006Bg-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:21:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQhIb-0006BX-LU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:21:49 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQiD3-0004Vd-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:20:10 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 ([84.12.24.28]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9F8Lc1I024409 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:21:39 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c5d161$745f6950$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:21:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060801090504040600050800" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060801090504040600050800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Last night NA briefly around 2030 then nothing.
XKO for half an hour around 0530 UTC see clip
Who's the mystery sig? Been there consistently last few nights.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
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22:54:10 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQXVA-0002dU-Qb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:54:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQXVA-0002dI-LY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:54:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQXV2-0005Hn-FN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:54:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQXV1-0005He-Sx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:53:59 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQYPA-0002l3-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:52:07 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQXUu-0007JN-01; Fri, 14 Oct 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <545838206.20051014235314@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XYS-m4ZC8euhSZWuSUmkLUDqpVRib6P6eIk9OfDa2mHneYqqPbBY0v X-TOI-MSGID: 0a640ab6-0405-4484-b782-43e3698d6c5d Subject: LF: LF tonight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000401030109000302000408" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000401030109000302000408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tonight it seems to be very quiet. Strong signals here from G3XIZ and G3WCB. Captures are on my website. The attached screenshot shows "NA" on 137.777. 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14./10/2005   2128z
 
 Hello the list!
 
 Good signals from S57AK ; G3XIZ ; G3WCB with the new receiver here in JN18CW
(actually around a half square meter: boxes on bench!)  :0)
The transmitter will arrive...
 
VY 73: Jeff F6CWN/p
 
 
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Many thanks Dave,
I've just managed to squeeze some more power out of the PA.
You are quite audible too - collossal signal !
73 Chris XIZ

Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear Chris, LF,
 
Good signal from G3XIZ this evening. Quite loud audibly as well.
 
73, Dve G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Blanchard
Sent: 13 October 2005 09:55
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XIZ

Nice signal from G3XIZ clg CQ at the moment.
 
Walter G3JKV. 
 

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Dear Chris, LF,
 
Good signal from G3XIZ this evening. Quite loud audibly as well.
 
73, Dve G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Blanchard
Sent: 13 October 2005 09:55
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: G3XIZ

Nice signal from G3XIZ clg CQ at the moment.
 
Walter G3JKV. 
 
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1EQTfc-00012v-Cb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:48:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQTfc-00012h-8z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:48:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQTfW-0004fI-0W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:48:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQTfV-0004f9-Lc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:48:33 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQUKA-0007jG-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:30:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 11899 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2005 17:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2005 17:48:22 -0000 Message-ID: <003801c5d0e8$0aaff160$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:52:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: XES JASON Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) WD2XES will run in JASON Slow-Turbo mode tonight on 137.779 kHz, starting around 2230 UTC. When seen on a QRSS screen, it will show a cluster of 45 second dots +/- 0.2 Hz of the center frequency. Use JASON 0.99 software, available at http://www.weaksignals.com to decode the signal in real-time. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:40:29 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQTXh-0005Jt-5O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:40:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQTXh-0005Jf-17 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:40:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQTWa-0004a9-Ev for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:39:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQTWZ-0004a0-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:39:19 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQUQi-0001rW-ET for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:37:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 18801 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2005 17:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2005 17:39:06 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c5d0e6$beca4670$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1394747172.20051014171858@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:43:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: TA 13/14 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, > For the first time I copied a DFCW10 signal from the US. A weak "XES" appeared > here about 0130utc, just readable. See attachment. That's a weak signal! Good work. XES will be back on 137.779 kHz tonight, with JASON in the Slow-Turbo mode. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:19:33 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQRLH-0005qL-ON for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:19:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQRLH-0005pw-Fw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:19:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQRLB-0004KS-9S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:19:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQRLA-0004KJ-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:19:24 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQSFB-00019E-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:17:24 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQRL2-00061o-01; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:19:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rSKQREZCgevnwZouKpTBZtnZOk4NeYQkkQRtpyU6Rqt4UJlB7KwKs6@[84.133.116.115]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQRKo-1xH7K40; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:19:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:18:58 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1394747172.20051014171858@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rSKQREZCgevnwZouKpTBZtnZOk4NeYQkkQRtpyU6Rqt4UJlB7KwKs6 X-TOI-MSGID: 6a7920a6-924f-4f20-9feb-d811bc631d8a Subject: LF: TA 13/14 Oct Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000300070504050403050905" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000300070504050403050905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Copied weak VO1NA, strong WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. For the first time I copied a DFCW10 signal from the US. A weak "XES" appeared here about 0130utc, just readable. See attachment. NPG was not so stong as the previous nights. 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Dear LF,
Traces of XKO QRSS and XES DFCW signals, peaking during the early hours of 13th.
 
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:06:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQR8V-0003A3-Ow for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:06:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQR8V-000398-84 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:06:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQR7f-0004AK-St for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:05:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQR7f-0004AB-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:05:27 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQS1k-0000xa-AL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:03:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 39982 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2005 15:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.158.143 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2005 15:05:18 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:05:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: TA 13 Oct. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040608040906080306040007" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040608040906080306040007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear LF,
 
Signs of XKO (I think), peaking strongly around 0600utc this morning. Nil copy XES or NA. XGJ is off the top of my Argo screen, so I'll reset my RX and have a look tonight.
 
The full screenshot is too big for the reflector, but I can mail it direct if requested.
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
 
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esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQBhm-0001K3-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:37:42 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQCbW-0005W8-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:35:21 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005101322372711100o1crpe>; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:37:31 +0000 Message-ID: <434EE1C4.7010806@att.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:37:56 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LowFer LWCA , RSGB LF Subject: LF: DCF-39 Steep rise on W3EEE page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I don't think I have ever seen such a fast rise of DCF-39 at Steve's location so early in the evening. http://www.w3eee.com/ Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:19:20 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ6jf-0004oC-V1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:19:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ6jf-0004nc-PD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:19:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ6il-0000tL-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:18:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ6il-0000tC-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:18:23 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ7cP-0004aT-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:15:55 +0100 Received: from fwd29.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQ6ii-0008SF-04; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:18:20 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VUNPhYZOgeWoTpOu3W6dt+PHpdKiQh4eWzbhw15U2-vbKs0ON+7ic6@[84.133.78.30]) by fwd29.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQ6iT-1x9y3E0; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:18:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:18:03 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <31633980.20051013191803@t-online.de> To: "OSBORN, Chris" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VUNPhYZOgeWoTpOu3W6dt+PHpdKiQh4eWzbhw15U2-vbKs0ON+7ic6 X-TOI-MSGID: d505b722-5752-4afd-aecc-548867209cf4 Subject: Re: LF: Activity - Thursday a.m. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) > I'll be putting out a few CQ calls tomorrow morning using my new and > 'partly built' T/RX: > CW , 136.50 kHz from about 0800 GMT > and then > QRSS-3 137.69 kHz > Any replies and/or reports would be most welcome. Hi Chris, I put 2 screenshots taken 0920utc and 1250utc on my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:05:13 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ5Zx-0006Sa-2z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:05:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ5Zw-0006SU-UY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:05:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ5Yj-0000lH-Ni for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:03:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ5Yj-0000l8-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:03:57 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ6Cz-0007e8-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:45:36 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQ5Yf-0004fc-00; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:53 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (ExExJOZa8e6+nyw0ygTvUSqril2bBSVV65CfV2Powrii5P7APBKH8p@[217.245.127.117]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EQ5YL-100np20; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:33 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:27 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001c5c6c9$4ea6af40$b2075257@erica> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: ExExJOZa8e6+nyw0ygTvUSqril2bBSVV65CfV2Powrii5P7APBKH8p X-TOI-MSGID: 8cf65360-a358-4f51-9ca1-ae544f8e1636 Subject: LF: AW: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi LF's, hi Peter, Thanks for answering my question! Here are some pictures of my antenna. Thank's Tom DL4EAU JO51DR http://www.qsl.net/dl4eau/lf-activity.htm -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Im Auftrag von g3ldo Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Oktober 2005 00:55 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Hi Tom > At the moment the three ends are insulate. > Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? As far as performance is concerned it doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference if the wires are separated at the ends or shorted together. However, if you are running a lot of power with a suburban sized antenna then the voltage on the antenna is very high. Corona at the ends of the wires can minimised by shorting the wires together. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4Km-0007ys-Ap for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ4Km-0007yZ-5z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:45:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ4KJ-0000a1-4m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:44:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ4KI-0000Zs-MS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:44:58 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ5Ds-00041E-R2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:42:26 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EQ4KF-0003Nc-01; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:55 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VsIdwmZVge1CVSZlP8j25JbP73IrPpFhUcstZXPtvuc+Hbr9B7liZy@[84.133.78.30]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EQ4K7-2GIF2O0; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:47 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:44:44 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <875614080.20051013164444@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VsIdwmZVge1CVSZlP8j25JbP73IrPpFhUcstZXPtvuc+Hbr9B7liZy X-TOI-MSGID: a337669e-619c-4445-9836-a37f2888f53a Subject: LF: TA 12/13 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Copied NA, WD2XES, XGJ and XKO. Again a very strong peak from NPG last night. Captures of NA, WD2XES, XGJ and XKO can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de H From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:23:02 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ32z-0007tc-1i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:23:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ32y-0007s0-R1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:23:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ32E-0000Pb-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:22:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ32D-0000PS-Sh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:22:13 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ3gT-0006l5-1I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:03:50 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.117 ([204.127.197.117]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005101313220501500b4ehoe>; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:22:05 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.117; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:22:01 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:22:01 +0000 Message-Id: <101320051322.13553.434E5F790001648F000034F122007340760B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Laurie, I would like to see the capture. Thanks & Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:22 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ0ro-00056U-CB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EQ0ro-00056J-1C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ0rm-0000Cs-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EQ0rm-0000Cj-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:18 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EQ1Vx-00066Q-A0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:44:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 29618 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2005 11:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2005 11:03:04 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c5cfdd$a0e4d300$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20754439.1129192769525.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:05:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: TA Last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Laurie,
 
Please send me the shot. Thanks for the reports.
 
John Andrews
----- Original Message -----
To: RSGB
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 09:39
Subject: LF: TA Last night

4 stations seen again last night, best just before dawn. XGJ, XES, XKO,and NA

Screen shot too big for reflector, but will send if wanted. 73 Laurie. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:58:13 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPyui-0008EM-A5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:58:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPyui-0008DN-3J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:58:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPytp-0008RY-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:57:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPyto-0008RP-Tz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:57:16 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPznJ-0002yH-5x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:54:38 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 (195-112-44-237.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [195.112.44.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9D8t7XZ001811 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:55:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c5cfd3$cd81c490$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:55:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: G3XIZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Nice signal from G3XIZ clg CQ at the moment.
 
Walter G3JKV.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:40:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPydi-0001Fw-3M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:40:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPydh-0001Eb-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:40:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPycm-0008Lf-CE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:39:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPycm-0008LW-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:39:40 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPzGv-0005Kz-N8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:21:12 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3004.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8F5EF1C001C6 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3002 (wwinf3002 [172.22.159.29]) by mwinf3004.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 83A751C001C3 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:39:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051013083929539.83A751C001C3@mwinf3004.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <20754439.1129192769525.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.72.10] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

4 stations seen again last night, best just before dawn. XGJ, XES, XKO,and NA

Screen shot too big for reflector, but will send if wanted. 73 Laurie. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:31:47 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPjW5-0004b4-0S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:31:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPjW4-0004ai-Qx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:31:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPjUJ-0007VJ-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:29:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPjUI-0007VA-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:29:54 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPk8C-0000on-SU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:11:11 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:29:17 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4LT5RAY0>; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:29:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: Activity - Thursday a.m. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I'll be putting out a few CQ calls tomorrow morning using my new and 'partly built' T/RX: CW , 136.50 kHz from about 0800 GMT and then QRSS-3 137.69 kHz Any replies and/or reports would be most welcome. 73 Chris G3XIZ This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPiID-0002U3-OW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPiID-0002To-CP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPiHX-0007LN-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:12:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPiHX-0007LE-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:12:39 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPivM-0000DO-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:53:54 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EPiGR-0003uv-00; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:31 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SsYpVEZXZeqVqdcDDvCJzUKifYSKFJv671Z+muKgo9A1u6lBjinjr2@[84.133.66.220]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EPiGD-0AidCy0; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:11:15 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <98704892.20051012171115@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SsYpVEZXZeqVqdcDDvCJzUKifYSKFJv671Z+muKgo9A1u6lBjinjr2 X-TOI-MSGID: be7c7bfb-abc3-4cdf-9f6f-6bab86af61fb Subject: LF: TA 11/12 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Good levels of NA, XGJ, XES and XKO last night. But there was a lot of fading on the signals especially on XGJ and XES. On 135.97514 was a very stong signal of NPG Dixon, CA nearly 10dB above the Lessay Loran C on 135.975337. So I was looking for a sinewave on 137.778 but nothing captured. Captures of NA, XGJ, XES and XKO can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA can be seen here(today its working): http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:24:12 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPbuF-0008EV-2q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:24:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPbuE-0008EN-Nw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:24:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPbuA-0006mi-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:24:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPbuA-0006mY-6E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:24:06 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPcXt-0006Bd-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:05:15 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A8527B800089 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3201 (wwinf3201 [172.22.156.28]) by mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9B7EFB800088 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:23:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051012082345637.9B7EFB800088@mwinf3211.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <572699.1129105425627.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.73.153] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Sorry, NA was there, but low in frequency at 137.776.5 by my reconing, almost off my screen.

Laurie.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:21:16 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPbrO-0002oR-1r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:21:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPbrN-0002oC-RO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:21:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPbqi-0006jL-9Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:20:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPbqh-0006jC-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:20:31 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPcUV-0006Ay-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:01:40 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 806A14800087 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:20:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3103 (wwinf3103 [172.22.158.30]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 750D94800086 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:20:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051012082015479.750D94800086@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <12093981.1129105215462.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.73.153] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:20:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA Last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Very good signals this morning until as late as 08:45 local time. XGJ, XES (DFCW) and KOX ? I did not see NA for some reason.

73 Laurie 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:01:48 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPRFs-0008TW-Dy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:01:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPRFs-0008R7-8b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:01:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPREC-0004yU-6U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:00:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPREB-0004yL-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:00:03 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPRrn-0003Eq-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:41:01 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EPRE9-0003ot-02; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:00:01 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bjPqFYZBwevGHKiORIhu741rPkQKw4s6SQLnWu2KOoFRlIVrB1yJU8@[84.133.71.89]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EPRDw-1u0BEG0; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:59:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:59:48 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1386688868.20051011225948@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bjPqFYZBwevGHKiORIhu741rPkQKw4s6SQLnWu2KOoFRlIVrB1yJU8 X-TOI-MSGID: fb87ef21-67ba-4142-b46d-d3cd1ce46bea Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090901030108010609060406" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090901030108010609060406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Early fade in of VO1NA tonight. 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from cupids.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPQ8z-0002j4-6Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:50:41 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by cupids.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9BJ9YUB025967 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:39:34 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j9BJ9X51020796 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:39:33 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j9BJ9XUa019612; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:39:33 -0230 (NDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:39:33 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: RSGB In-Reply-To: <19240342.1129055940536.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: References: <19240342.1129055940536.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks to Hartmut and Laurence for the signal reports. The beacon is running with about 90 watts output 1.0 amps to a 100 metre wire. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:39:44 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPP2O-0006E7-4P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:39:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPP2N-0006E1-NX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:39:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPP1q-0004fA-5L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:39:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPP1p-0004f1-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:39:09 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPPuV-00044t-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:35:42 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3009.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 956551C00104 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:39:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3001 (wwinf3001 [172.22.159.28]) by mwinf3009.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 879F91C000BC for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:39:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051011183900555.879F91C000BC@mwinf3009.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <19240342.1129055940536.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.73.153] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:39:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: TA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Good signal here from VO1NA last night , will be monitoring again tonight. Looking also for XES.

73 Laurie

 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:45:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPMJl-0001eV-1y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:45:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPMJk-0001eD-Qe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:45:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPMIy-0004Mq-32 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:44:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPMIx-0004Mh-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:44:39 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPNBa-00038P-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:41:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 19514 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2005 15:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2005 15:43:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c5ce7b$0e594d80$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1942115889.20051011172532@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:47:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: TA 10/11 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, > Sorry, no rx on 137.422 last night. Because I was already sleeping when the > posting came via the reflector. Sorry! Given Laurence's computer problems, I will move XES back to 137.779 tonight, with the usual DFCW. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPM6s-00049f-C7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPM6s-00048k-3p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:32:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPM6F-0004H5-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:31:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPM6F-0004Gw-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:31:31 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPMyq-00033k-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:28:00 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EPM5C-0004PG-01; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:30:26 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rSs1FEZp8egLzy2PyzApyLzXIS1idjw3-inygW6WeX8JrsS76Mqtwe@[84.133.71.89]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EPM4x-0MXBUu0; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:30:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:25:32 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1942115889.20051011172532@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rSs1FEZp8egLzy2PyzApyLzXIS1idjw3-inygW6WeX8JrsS76Mqtwe X-TOI-MSGID: 0af41429-d97a-4000-9d1a-2209260ab932 Subject: LF: TA 10/11 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Strong QRSS60 signal with some deeper fading periods from WD2XGJ and WD2XKO last night. Copied only very few signs from the VO1NA QRSS120 signal. Sorry, no rx on 137.422 last night. Because I was already sleeping when the posting came via the reflector. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA on about 135.97514 can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:26:33 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPK9F-0004V1-Vq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:26:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPK9F-0004Uv-ST for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:26:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPK8o-00044F-Mb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:26:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPK8o-000446-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:26:02 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPL1O-0002bF-IT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:22:28 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.17]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j9BDP4QZ027703; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:25:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001a01c5ce66$af769f20$118cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, ukmicrowaves@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:21:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: HFC Talk on "Using GPS for Enhancing Amateur Radio Communications" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The powerpoint file for this presentation is availalbe from the Flight Refuelling ARC's web site: www.frars.org.uk Andy G4JNT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:38:09 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPISN-0005GK-4V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:38:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPISM-0005Fi-GE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:38:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPIRD-0003pr-JH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:36:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPIRD-0003pi-8l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:36:55 +0100 Received: from natfrord.rzone.de ([81.169.145.161]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPJ4g-0007sb-Vy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:17:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.103.47] (p54867A70.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.122.112]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9BBapXf016757 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:36:52 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <434BA496.3070008@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:40:06 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <133852986.20051009225838@t-online.de> <001101c5ce42$7bd75480$a6b7bdc1@y4x1l1> In-Reply-To: <001101c5ce42$7bd75480$a6b7bdc1@y4x1l1> Subject: Re: LF: Re: EU activity 8 and 9 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Joze, Joze Konda schrieb: > HI Hatrmunt...and S52AB...QSO with SP5ZCC... I used the whole weekend a cardiod antenna pointing at about 310 degrees. It seems you are in the null of the antenna. While using this antenna I have trouble to copy stations from East/South Europe. S5 and OK are very seldom with this antenna. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:03:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPG2k-0002Ho-Sg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:03:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPG2k-0002HV-Jf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:03:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPG29-0003bQ-Ic for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:02:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPG24-0003bH-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:02:48 +0100 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.87]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPGuT-0001SN-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:59:08 +0100 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20051011090245.QSTF7456.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:02:45 +0200 Received: from y4x1l1 ([193.189.183.166]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20051011090215.RWUS15081.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:02:15 +0200 Message-ID: <001101c5ce42$7bd75480$a6b7bdc1@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <133852986.20051009225838@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:02:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: LF: Re: EU activity 8 and 9 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) HI Hatrmunt...and S52AB...QSO with SP5ZCC... Regards 73 Joze S52AB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: LF: EU activity 8 and 9 Oct > Updated my website http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm with > screenshots taken 8th and 9th October: > > DF6NM, DG0RG, DK4U, DL2HRE, DL3ZID, DM2BHG, F6BWO, G3WCB, G3XIZ, > MB2HFC, SP5ZCC, OK1DWF and OK2BVG > > 73 > > Hartmut > > Locator:JO52ho > www.h-wolff.de > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:32:50 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPDgv-0005JY-8m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:32:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EPDgv-0005JI-5F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:32:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EPDfy-0003PK-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:31:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EPDfy-0003PB-5m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:31:50 +0100 Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.26]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EPEYN-0000tJ-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:28:07 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF19D1C00215 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-4-168.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.135.168]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2B0C51C0020A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:31:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051011063139176.2B0C51C0020A@mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200510110831320848.02F44792@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <007f01c5cdd3$f32f15f0$0c01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <007f01c5cdd3$f32f15f0$0c01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:31:32 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Fwd: Loran update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) It doesn't say anything about Lessay or Souson (?sp). I will try to find out from M Jacques Manchard if there is any news about them. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 10/10/2005 at 20:50 John W Gould wrote: >Great news. I was discussing the matter with RSGB HQ only the other week >and we had decided to send off a further letter of complaint. Will now >re-consider what is the best action. > >73 John, G3WKL >Interim RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP4HK-0008JA-4k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP4HJ-0008IZ-QX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EP4Gy-0002W5-Hv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EP4Gx-0002Vw-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EP4uA-0002D0-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:09:57 +0100 Received: from [82.44.38.150] ([82.44.38.150]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:30:10 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.11.14]); Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:19 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c5cdd9$4a822e50$96262c52@derekm3uttnxf9> From: "DEREK ATTER" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> <002e01c5c9b4$61a61de0$d6252c52@derekm3uttnxf9> <002e01c5cc17$b564e690$1bac3850@MARLEEN> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:29:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2005 20:30:10.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[68E6A330:01C5CDD9] Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct. 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Hello William, PA0WFO,
 
Thanks for your report on our signals from MB2HFC at the HFC convention.  I did hear your signals briefly through the local noise and the Loran QRM and I thought that you were calling us but readability at that time was very poor. At that time, Jim M0BMU not yet managed to deploy the receiving loop with the Loran null canceller in a quiet spot which turned out to be some 200m away from the main Hotel building!   Later in the afternoon reception was much better when the loop was in use.   We also had local noise on the alternative receiving channel on 2m relayed from the remote receiver at MB7LF which we later managed to reduce by moving the 2m HB9CV beam antenna further away from the building.
 
Activity was disappointingly low but we managed to work a number of DLs plus PA0SE and several G stations - some on QRSS . Apologies to any stations who may have called us without success due to our noise problem. The station was not permanently manned because the operators were at times attending some of the interesting lectures during the day and also attending the Conference dinner on Saturday evening.
 
73,  Derek Atter  G3GRO
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: PA0WFO
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct.

To all ,
Heard the special event station MB2HFC with manual CW this morning with signalstrenght 7 . I could not make a contact with my 150 Watts .
Perhaps a high noise level at MB2HFC ?
73, William PAØWFO
----- Original Message -----
From: "DEREK ATTER" <derek.atter@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:55 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct.

> Hi LF'ers
>
> The RSGB will again this year be running the HF Conference HFC2005 at the
> Gatwick Worth Hotel just outside Crawley in Sussex over the weekend
> 7/8/9October and the special event station MB2HFC will be operating on the
> HF bands and also on 136khz over the weekend.
>
> Crawley Amateur Radio Club will be providing logistic support to the
> conference including deploying a variety of HF antennas including an HF beam
> at 20m AGL and several E/H antennas for comparison.
>
> We also plan to erect a 136khz station with a 1KW ex-Decca amplifier and
> FT100MP as prime- mover. The transmitting antenna will be 20m vertical wire
> with two 40m top loading wires spaced about 2m apart. Experience gained from
> last year's event showed that the hotel has a high local electrical noise
> level on LF so we are unlikely to be able to use the TX ant on receive -  we
> also have Loran QRM to contend with!   Jim M0BMU has kindly volunteered  to
> deploy his double- nulling loop receiving antenna hopefully in a quiet spot
> outside in the grounds away from the main sources of electrical noise.  We
> also intend to have a back-up receiver system by taking 136khz signals the
> local MB7LF remote receiver at the Crawley Club HQ relayed via 2m at
> 144.986Mhz (which equates to 136.000 kHz). The 2m receiver will have an LO
> source from a high-stability ovened source checked against the MSF national
> frequency standard.
>
> We expect to be QRV much of the time much over the weekend both on hand-CW
> and QRSS from Friday evening onwards (7th Oct) through to Sunday mid-day
> (9th Oct) depending on availability of operators - we will also be attending
> some of the lectures from time to time. Any delegates attending the
> conference wishing to have an operating spell on 136Khz will be most
> welcome.  Contact me, G3GRO,  in the Hotel or Jim M0BMU or any of the
> Crawley stewards on duty at the time.
>  I will flag any further info on the reflector.
>
> 73,   Derek Atter  G3GRO  for Crawley ARC.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vernall" <vernall@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:39 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Confirming ZM2E had an active night transmitting wise, got part of the
>> VA7LF
>> call sign and there were problems for R6L (RU6LA special call sign)
>> transmitting when it came to QSO time.
>>
>> Around 0840 UTC we received quite a good 7 at 120 second dot length and
>> elements either side fitted what would be VA7LF, but that part call sign
>> was
>> the best we got in all the various receiving times for ZM2E before Gulf
>> Island sunrise.
>>
>> When it came time to try R6L we were advised by HF liaison that R6L had
>> problems, and we should start the QSO rather than the earlier arrangement
>> that R6L would start at 1500 UTC.  We later got advice to go to beacon
>> mode
>> so at 1637 UTC we set the message to ZM2E ZM2E .... and got to bed earlier
>> than expected.  The beacon ran till well after ZL sunrise.
>>
>> From the other reports it would seem DX propagation was "not good".
>>
>> We are back tonight for another bite at the cherry.
>>
>> 73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--------------010604050901060108060101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="_AVG certification_.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="_AVG certification_.txt" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/128 - Release Date: 10/10/2005 --------------010604050901060108060101-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:51:32 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP3gJ-0005yy-Sj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:51:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP3gJ-0005yW-Mt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:51:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EP3fv-0002Oy-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:51:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EP3fu-0002Op-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:51:06 +0100 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EP4Y8-0007Qi-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:47:11 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EP3fq-0001xi-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:51:02 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <007f01c5cdd3$f32f15f0$0c01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200510101821320370.020DECEA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.18.174] Subject: LF: RE: Fwd: Loran update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Great news. I was discussing the matter with RSGB HQ only the other week and we had decided to send off a further letter of complaint. Will now re-consider what is the best action. 73 John, G3WKL Interim RSGB HF Manager From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:20:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP3C9-0000Jz-Me for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:20:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP3C9-0000HZ-H5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:20:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EP3BO-0002Hp-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:19:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EP3BO-0002Hg-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:19:34 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EP3oa-0001lP-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:00:07 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.12d.66970f92 (4246) for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:19:24 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <12d.66970f92.307c18bc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:19:24 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: Loran update Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
In a message dated 10/10/2005 16:22:17 GMT Standard Time, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr writes:

>I see that there's a new notice at http://www.nels.org/
>
>--
>David Gibson
>
Hooray.  Northern Europe Off air Early Jan 2006.  !!   - No mention of Rugby though.
 
Thank you John
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:22:07 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP0Pb-0003YP-Oc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:22:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EP0Pb-0003Y0-K3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:22:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EP0PP-00023B-Sy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:21:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EP0PP-000232-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:21:51 +0100 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EP1HW-0006lB-4r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:17:51 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0712.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5AAEB1C00041 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:21:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-114-4-23.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.233.23]) by mwinf0712.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A5D161C0004A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:21:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051010162137679.A5D161C0004A@mwinf0712.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200510101821320370.020DECEA@smtp.wanadoo.fr> References: <63A683836F10CE4EACA8C2F86E8A1670017FE513@VEX2.ds.leeds.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:21:32 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fwd: Loran update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 10/10/2005 at 16:49 David Gibson wrote: >I see that there's a new notice at http://www.nels.org/ > >-- >David Gibson > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:44:42 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOzpO-0004q8-G3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:44:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOzpO-0004pa-Bn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:44:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOzns-0001wX-RR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:43:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOzns-0001wO-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:43:04 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EP0Qv-0000VL-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:23:33 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EOznh-0006Mo-02; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:53 +0200 Received: from HW1 (T53H5EZ1ZeVv+wSqstfPgXgYjwzkmebF7fzTO7Dju8YA7J7538dhYE@[84.133.123.151]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EOznQ-2ITG3E0; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:42:33 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1591780612.20051010174233@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: T53H5EZ1ZeVv+wSqstfPgXgYjwzkmebF7fzTO7Dju8YA7J7538dhYE X-TOI-MSGID: f9430321-ed23-42a1-addb-73994d64ad3d Subject: LF: TA 9/10 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Captured some good peaks of "XGJ" and "XKO" but not long enough to copy the whole strings. Weak copy of "NA" in QRSS 120, too. "XES LOBO GUAPO" decoded from a soundfile started at 0200UTC. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm A plot of NPG Dixon, CA with a longer strong peak during local dawn can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Miscellaneous/NPG/NPG.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:58:51 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOnsH-0003uH-S1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:58:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOnsH-0003oW-Lv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOnrh-00010J-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:58:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOnrg-00010A-79 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:58:12 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOojY-0002vT-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:53:55 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.90]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 407E6B7CE6 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004b01c5cd46$72fb3e00$5a11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <133852986.20051009225838@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:58:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Trans-Pacific Canadian Amateur LF Signals Confirmed Heard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) ** Trans-Pacific Canadian Amateur LF Signals Confirmed Heard ** The first confirmed trans-Pacific reception of Canadian amateur LF (2200m) signals occured on the morning of October 4, 2005. The slow speed (QRSS) CW signals of VA7LF were confirmed heard near Wellington, New Zealand, at the Wellington Amateur Radio Club station at Quartz Hill. Signals from the ZM2E club station were heard in Canada as well but propagtion was not of sufficient duration to enable a QSO to be completed. VA7LF was located on South Pender Island, British Columbia and operated by VE7TIL, VE7SL and VE7MM. The Quartz Hill station was manned by ZL2CA and ZL4OL. The present amateur radio LF world record two-way is shared by ZM2E and UA0LE, a distance of 10,311 km. The distance between VA7LF and ZM2E is approximately 11,700 km. Both stations were operated on 137 kHz using DFCW QRSS120. VA7LF was running approximately 1 watt erp while ZM2E was at the 5W erp level. Propagation conditions were generally poor during the three night test period. The next scheduled trans-Pacific tests will be in the spring of 2006. As Bob Vernall, ZL2CA, summarized, "The bottle of bubbly is back in the cellar ...." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:00:45 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOiHk-0007ui-FE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:00:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOiHk-0007uX-98 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:00:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOiFt-0000Yd-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:58:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOiFs-0000YU-OU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:58:48 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOj7e-00020P-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:54:24 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EOiFp-00077J-04; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:58:45 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ESAZRYZOgePy3o+Sl-BkHCewVCzd23TJz6jsdGtpaFIU5YnhCJe9sv@[84.133.78.239]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EOiFf-09DPd20; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:58:35 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:58:38 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <133852986.20051009225838@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ESAZRYZOgePy3o+Sl-BkHCewVCzd23TJz6jsdGtpaFIU5YnhCJe9sv X-TOI-MSGID: e53f4520-2a30-4b2c-9f23-af9d9f49fefb Subject: LF: EU activity 8 and 9 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Updated my website http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm with screenshots taken 8th and 9th October: DF6NM, DG0RG, DK4U, DL2HRE, DL3ZID, DM2BHG, F6BWO, G3WCB, G3XIZ, MB2HFC, SP5ZCC, OK1DWF and OK2BVG 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:36:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOgy4-0003PL-LP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:36:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOgy4-0003Od-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:36:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOgxe-0000Od-7u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:35:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOgxd-0000OU-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:35:53 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOhpO-0001lx-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:31:27 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.74.5e141b2c (48624) for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <74.5e141b2c.307acb0e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:35:42 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: Ooh, what's this? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Dave,

that Parkinsonian wobbling was definitely me, TX testing ;-) Thanks for the report.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:07:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOgVp-0007bI-Ih for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:07:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOgVp-0007b6-Ac for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:07:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOgVb-0000Id-0q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:06:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOgVa-0000IU-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:06:54 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOhNK-0001gm-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:02:27 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.12.189) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7DD70042571F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:06:47 +0200 Message-ID: <003601c5ccfc$fadc65a0$238824d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:12:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: Ooh, what's this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Parkinson TCXO! :0) 73: Jeff F6CWN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:30 PM Subject: LF: Ooh, what's this? > Dear LF, > > Anybody claim responsibilty for this signal? (1820z) > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:30:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOfwl-0007K5-I1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:30:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOfwl-0007I3-8l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:30:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOfwA-0000B9-Vx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:30:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOfwA-0000Av-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:30:18 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOgYy-0001vg-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:10:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 10427 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2005 18:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.156.163 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2005 18:30:09 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2310179734.20051009170636@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Ooh, what's this? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090509040100080005020807" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090509040100080005020807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF, Anybody claim responsibilty for this signal? 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In a message dated 09/10/2005 10:58:11 GMT Daylight Time, john.rabson@wanadoo.fr writes:
I have a large number of e-mails relating to LF activity and wish to store them offline.  Does anybody have any information on how long a CD-ROM should remain readable?

Hi John
 
I'm sure if I say indefinitely someone will tell me I'm wrong but I suspect for most practical purposes, given a properly burned CD in the first place, that's probably about it.
I have music CDs 20 years old and still fine, commercial data CDs of similar age, and home cut data CDRs of at least 5 years.
There was talk once of earlier CDs having limited lifespan, due to supposed problems with the magnetic coating in use at the time, but I can also remember back in the 70s being told that Eproms would never retain their data for more than 10 years and many of those are still going strong after 30.
Even if you don't go for "indefinite" an estimate of 10 or 20 years minimum should be quite reasonable.
 
regards
 
Nigel
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 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:58:03 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOXwQ-0005l3-HG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:58:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOXwQ-0005kk-AQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:58:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOXvj-0007zU-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:57:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOXvi-0007zL-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:57:18 +0100 Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOYYP-0007de-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:37:19 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0809.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 790EA1C001F8 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-3-133.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.134.133]) by mwinf0809.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DDED91C001E6 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:57:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051009095710909.DDED91C001E6@mwinf0809.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200510091157000736.055F3C38@smtp.wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:57:00 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Archiving Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have a large number of e-mails relating to LF activity and wish to store them offline. Does anybody have any information on how long a CD-ROM should remain readable? Regards, John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:26:57 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOSm0-0002rF-Ns for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:26:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOSm0-0002r5-JW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:26:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOSlJ-0007hB-Ml for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:26:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOSlJ-0007h2-4n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:26:13 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOTch-0006Zf-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 06:21:27 +0100 Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051009042602.KZBE21883.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 05:26:02 +0100 Received: from p2300 ([80.1.84.2]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20051009042602.QCIY15669.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@p2300> for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 05:26:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c5cc89$813be860$02540150@p2300> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <001601c5cadf$b2359160$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> <001001c5cc4e$cd89e950$0301010a@stewbee> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 05:25:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZM2E activity report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Drink it on Trafalgar Day instead  , G3GVB
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Vernall
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:37 PM
Subject: LF: ZM2E activity report

Hi all,
 
 
<snip>
 
, but on Argo 120 dot length it was nil seen for any amateur sigs. The bottle of bubbly is back in the cellar ....
 
73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
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Hi Bob
 
Well done on you efforts
 
                                        
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Vernall
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:37 PM
Subject: LF: ZM2E activity report

Hi all,
 
The night at ZM2E was OK for rx and tx from our point of view, but we received nil from any of the stations we were aspiring to contact.  We had occasional rain static at S9+ but it was fairly brief, and otherwise QRN was moderate.  We copied the California RTTY signal on 135.92 kHz before ZL sunset so we knew there was some DX propagation, but on Argo 120 dot length it was nil seen for any amateur sigs.
 
The bottle of bubbly is back in the cellar ....
 
73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
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19:41:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOJdp-0002yF-86 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:41:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOJfo-0005ib-RK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:43:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOJfo-0005iS-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:43:56 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOKWz-0004VD-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:38:58 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1EOJfi-0005IC-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:43:50 +0200 Received: from www7.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.210]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.53 #4) id 1EOJfi-000156-0M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:43:50 +0200 Received: from www-data by www7.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1EOJfh-0003Wa-Ia for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:43:49 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 84.134.155.111 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:43:49 +0200 Subject: LF: Saturday activity report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageGreetings all - especially those at the HFC,

MB2HFC has triggered some activity in CW on saturday morning, and later the afternoon (many thanks Jim for the CW qso, and also for the Hell/QRSS test later).
At the moment, there is severe QRN here, coming from Italy as you can see on DF6NM green grabber, and on http://www.wetteronline.de/eurobli.htm ).

To Marek: Your grabber works fb, just saw my signal despite the QRN. The VFO was a bit off frequency, but no real problem.

73,
  Wolf  DK4U / ex DF0WD / DL4YHF .

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:02:54 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOJ25-0003iq-Cw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:02:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOJ24-0003id-Ot for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:02:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOJ1W-0005bf-Nd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:02:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOJ1W-0005bW-8O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:02:18 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOJdy-000417-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:42:03 +0100 Received: from DK6JL@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.8e.317491e4 (4340) for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DK6JL@aol.com Message-ID: <8e.317491e4.3079639e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:02:06 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5005 Subject: LF: LF Aktivity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Just at this time I hear DL3FDO 529 in JO 31 AH
 
Greetings
Rüdiger, DK6JL
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:49:04 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOG0V-0000rF-LM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:49:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOG0V-0000r9-Fu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:49:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOG2f-0005MX-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:51:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOG2c-0005MO-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:51:14 +0100 Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOGtl-0003nf-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:46:12 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.172.27]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051008145104.NYDH2093.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 16:51:04 +0200 Message-ID: <002e01c5cc17$b564e690$1bac3850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> <002e01c5c9b4$61a61de0$d6252c52@derekm3uttnxf9> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 16:51:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
To all ,
Heard the special event station MB2HFC with manual CW this morning with signalstrenght 7 . I could not make a contact with my 150 Watts .
Perhaps a high noise level at MB2HFC ?
73, William PAØWFO
----- Original Message -----
From: "DEREK ATTER" <derek.atter@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:55 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct.

> Hi LF'ers
>
> The RSGB will again this year be running the HF Conference HFC2005 at the
> Gatwick Worth Hotel just outside Crawley in Sussex over the weekend
> 7/8/9October and the special event station MB2HFC will be operating on the
> HF bands and also on 136khz over the weekend.
>
> Crawley Amateur Radio Club will be providing logistic support to the
> conference including deploying a variety of HF antennas including an HF beam
> at 20m AGL and several E/H antennas for comparison.
>
> We also plan to erect a 136khz station with a 1KW ex-Decca amplifier and
> FT100MP as prime- mover. The transmitting antenna will be 20m vertical wire
> with two 40m top loading wires spaced about 2m apart. Experience gained from
> last year's event showed that the hotel has a high local electrical noise
> level on LF so we are unlikely to be able to use the TX ant on receive -  we
> also have Loran QRM to contend with!   Jim M0BMU has kindly volunteered  to
> deploy his double- nulling loop receiving antenna hopefully in a quiet spot
> outside in the grounds away from the main sources of electrical noise.  We
> also intend to have a back-up receiver system by taking 136khz signals the
> local MB7LF remote receiver at the Crawley Club HQ relayed via 2m at
> 144.986Mhz (which equates to 136.000 kHz). The 2m receiver will have an LO
> source from a high-stability ovened source checked against the MSF national
> frequency standard.
>
> We expect to be QRV much of the time much over the weekend both on hand-CW
> and QRSS from Friday evening onwards (7th Oct) through to Sunday mid-day
> (9th Oct) depending on availability of operators - we will also be attending
> some of the lectures from time to time. Any delegates attending the
> conference wishing to have an operating spell on 136Khz will be most
> welcome.  Contact me, G3GRO,  in the Hotel or Jim M0BMU or any of the
> Crawley stewards on duty at the time.
>  I will flag any further info on the reflector.
>
> 73,   Derek Atter  G3GRO  for Crawley ARC.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vernall" <vernall@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:39 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Confirming ZM2E had an active night transmitting wise, got part of the
>> VA7LF
>> call sign and there were problems for R6L (RU6LA special call sign)
>> transmitting when it came to QSO time.
>>
>> Around 0840 UTC we received quite a good 7 at 120 second dot length and
>> elements either side fitted what would be VA7LF, but that part call sign
>> was
>> the best we got in all the various receiving times for ZM2E before Gulf
>> Island sunrise.
>>
>> When it came time to try R6L we were advised by HF liaison that R6L had
>> problems, and we should start the QSO rather than the earlier arrangement
>> that R6L would start at 1500 UTC.  We later got advice to go to beacon
>> mode
>> so at 1637 UTC we set the message to ZM2E ZM2E .... and got to bed earlier
>> than expected.  The beacon ran till well after ZL sunrise.
>>
>> From the other reports it would seem DX propagation was "not good".
>>
>> We are back tonight for another bite at the cherry.
>>
>> 73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:39:44 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOFrT-0006Rt-QR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:39:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOFrT-0006Rn-NY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:39:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOFqQ-0005Gi-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:38:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOFqQ-0005GZ-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:38:38 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOGSo-0002Fx-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:18:20 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 4510 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2005 16:38:30 +0200 Received: from pop3.wp.pl (HELO localhost) ([212.77.101.166]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with SMTP for ; 8 Oct 2005 16:38:30 +0200 Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:38:29 +0200 From: "Marek Przybyszewski" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <4347d9e537a67@wp.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Interfejs WWW nowej poczty Wirtualnej Polski X-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) Organization: Nowa Poczta Wirtualnej Polski S.A. http://www.wp.pl/ X-IP: 80.53.201.198 X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=Unknown AS2=NO(0.627603) AS3=NO AS4=NO Subject: LF: Grabber SP5ZCC@KO02pf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello everybody, A grabber at SP5ZCC (KO02pf) is temporarily running this weekend at http://sq5bpm.sp5zcc.waw.pl/grab . Equipment: T-antenna, ca. 15m vertical, ca. 160m horizontal, loading coil. Receiver: level meter PRAECITRONIC MV61 + Yaesu FT-990. The frequency may drift a few Hz per hour. If I have time today, I will try to refurbish the transmitter as well, for now have fun with the receiver in a slightly noisy location near Warsaw. 73! Marek SQ5BPM SP5ZCC Scouts Radio Club ---------------------------------------------------- Ziomalu wydaj plyte na legalu! Wielki konkurs RAP ESKADRA czeka! http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fadv.reklama.wp.pl%2Fas%2Frapeskadra.html&sid=528 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:57:22 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOEGO-0007vQ-9l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:57:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EOEGO-0007uI-3b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:57:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EOEEY-00056U-AL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:55:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EOEEX-00056L-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:55:25 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EOF5Z-0003Js-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:50:20 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j98Cpdwq000875 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 08:51:40 -0400 Received: from server (dial155-ripley2.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.149.155]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j98CsZUE002176 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 08:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801c5cbfe$f9ab1e00$95b9fea9@server> From: "J. 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Hello LFers,
 
For something different I thought I'd have a look at a portion of the
east-west TA window last night.  Very close to 135.750 I saw a
very strong carrier all night.  I know that SXV uses that frequency
but I doubt that I'm picking it up that solid, so I'm wondering if it
might be the signal Jay, W1VD was referring to?
 
What is the most common frequency that you European and UK
stations use when attempting TA operations?  The bandplan in
"LF Today" shows quite a large window so it would be helpful to
be looking in the right place.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
EN93dr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENvqW-000660-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENvqV-00065S-I3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENvpy-0003WM-B7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:16:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENvpx-0003WD-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:16:49 +0100 Received: from mail.hvi.net ([64.72.88.19] helo=wombat.hvi.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENwgh-0007ob-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:11:20 +0100 Received: from Laptop (unverified [66.6.181.30]) by wombat.hvi.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.340.3) with SMTP id ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <158901c5cb62$d3e2d920$02be0642@Laptop> From: "RJ Mattson" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: "rsgb lf reflector" References: <100720051216.18488.4346671F000E96000000483822007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:16:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Excel of Loops Re: [LW] Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks Warren I am looking for an Excel version for multi-turn receiving loops. Anything out there for Excel? bob...w2ami ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" Subject: [LW] Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software >I have'nt tried it, but I came across some software for modelling ferrite >loop antennas: > http://home.att.net/~ray.l.cross/murod_mm/ > Thought that this might be of interest to the group. > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:45 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENsFG-0007Rb-Rh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENsFG-0007RJ-Lm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENsEs-0002Hc-6Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENsEr-0002HT-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:26:17 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENsqq-0008FG-O8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:05:35 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005100713260201300jsid1e>; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:26:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c5cb44$455f1100$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:37:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: EU > US TA window Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
TA enthusiasts
 
Further to yesterday's conversation concerning the EU > TA window...
 
Here's a capture showing the extent of NPG, Dixon CA modulation products in the northeast.
 
 
 
There are also 3 unid signals just below 136.000 that are present day and night at this location...they appear to be eminating from west of here and have been there steady for at least the last couple weeks.
 
 
 
Then there are the ever present loran lines...(thanks to John/LWCA for this info)
 
 
I'll be happy to run captures of any proposed frequency ranges and post them for viewing.
 
Jay, W1VD
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENrAH-0000gu-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENrAG-0000gi-TA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:17:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENr9g-0001p6-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:16:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENr9d-0001ox-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:16:49 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENs0A-0006W8-IW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:11:13 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.115 ([204.127.197.115]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20051007121633014009221be>; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:16:34 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.115; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:16:32 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: LWCA LF Reflector Cc: rsgb lf reflector Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:16:32 +0000 Message-Id: <100720051216.18488.4346671F000E96000000483822007358340B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: LF: Free Ferrite Loop Antenna Software X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I have'nt tried it, but I came across some software for modelling ferrite loop antennas: http://home.att.net/~ray.l.cross/murod_mm/ Thought that this might be of interest to the group. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:13:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENmPb-0003GE-29 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:13:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENmPa-0003Fs-V1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:12:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENmO9-0000EG-75 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:11:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENmO8-0000E7-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:11:28 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENn03-0005kd-Ev for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:50:40 +0100 Received: from DK6JL@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.fb.7a8022e6 (48576) for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:11:15 -0400 (EDT) From: DK6JL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:11:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5005 Subject: Re: LF: VLF Aktivity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Sorry about mistake in email adress! dk6jl@aol.com
Rüdiger
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:06:15 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENmJ5-00033G-6S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:06:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENmJ5-000336-39 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:06:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENmIM-000093-4I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:05:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENmIL-00008u-Ks for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:05:29 +0100 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENn8r-0004s0-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:59:47 +0100 Received: from DK6JL@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.129.6706095f (48576) for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: DK6JL@aol.com Message-ID: <129.6706095f.3077782b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 03:05:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5005 Subject: LF: VLF Aktivity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello All!
Will be QRV in normal CW that weekend from JO 31 AH, TX abt. 60 - 80 W Ant 10 m vertikal with 1 A antenna current. Skeds preferred via dk6hl@aol.com. Hope for some response!
Starting app. Saturday 12.00 UTC    Sunday 10.00 UTC
 
Vy 73 Rüdiger
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:57:45 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENiQa-0006Kf-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:57:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENiQa-0006Jf-7D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:57:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENiPJ-0007Gv-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:56:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENiPI-0007Gm-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:56:24 +0100 Received: from outbound01.telus.net ([199.185.220.220] helo=priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENj18-0004d7-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 04:35:32 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051007025615.JQOU23912.priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net@cognizant1> for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:56:15 -0600 Message-ID: <003c01c5caea$c340f7a0$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <001601c5cadf$b2359160$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:56:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E activity report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Bob/Mike
 
It seemed that prop across the 'big' pond was decent just before dawn... We copied ZM2E 'O' for your entire final transmission... By the time the 'E' arrived it was well past dawn... We didn't bother sparking up...
 
Our noise dropped last night and the prior night just as your final sequence of the sked began...
 
More details to follow once we decompress and get more sleep...
 
73 Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Vernall
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: LF: ZM2E activity report

Hi all,
 
The night at ZM2E was OK for rx and tx from our point of view, but we received nil from any of the stations we were aspiring to contact.  We had occasional rain static at S9+ but it was fairly brief, and otherwise QRN was moderate.  We copied the California RTTY signal on 135.92 kHz before ZL sunset so we knew there was some DX propagation, but on Argo 120 dot length it was nil seen for any amateur sigs.
 
The bottle of bubbly is back in the cellar ....
 
73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:22:37 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENgwX-0000uD-0r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:22:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENgwW-0000u4-Sh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:22:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENgvp-0006n3-A3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:21:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENgvn-0006mu-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:21:51 +0100 Received: from mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENhXY-00046Y-BY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:00:58 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051007012132.WKRV28153.mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:21:32 +1300 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.117.95]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051007012131.VEVS5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:21:31 +1300 Message-ID: <001601c5cadf$b2359160$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:37:33 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: ZM2E activity report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
 
The night at ZM2E was OK for rx and tx from our point of view, but we received nil from any of the stations we were aspiring to contact.  We had occasional rain static at S9+ but it was fairly brief, and otherwise QRN was moderate.  We copied the California RTTY signal on 135.92 kHz before ZL sunset so we knew there was some DX propagation, but on Argo 120 dot length it was nil seen for any amateur sigs.
 
The bottle of bubbly is back in the cellar ....
 
73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:44:13 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENaiy-00024E-Nx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:44:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENaix-00023h-K0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:44:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENajD-0004pt-Lt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:44:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENajD-0004pk-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:44:27 +0100 Received: from smtpout.a1.net ([194.48.124.21] helo=uxmtat05-real.net.mobilkom.at) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENbKv-0002DN-R1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:23:27 +0100 Received: from PC2-LINUX.aon.at ([88.116.16.222]) by smtpout2.a1.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0INY008LAC1W4V10@smtpout2.a1.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:44:20 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:48:24 +0200 From: Heinz Schnait In-reply-to: <4342D69B.7336.961E24@localhost> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <200510062048.24469.oe5eep@aon.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline References: <4342D69B.7336.961E24@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz activity from OE Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Mike, You will have seen that we had to postpone. The plan was to run regular CW most of the day and eventually run a QRSS beacon for an hour or so. 73 Heinz Am Dienstag, 4. Oktober 2005 20:23 schrieb Mike Dennison: > Heinz, > > Will the activity be just CW, or will there be QRSS? > > Mike, G3XDV > =========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:33:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENaYF-0002Mw-D8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:33:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENaYF-0002Mg-2g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:33:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENaXX-0004gw-Ci for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:32:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENaXX-0004gn-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:32:23 +0100 Received: from smtpout.a1.net ([194.48.124.21] helo=uxmtat04-real.net.mobilkom.at) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENbNl-0002Mo-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:26:24 +0100 Received: from PC2-LINUX.aon.at ([88.116.16.222]) by smtpout1.a1.net (A1.net ORGANIZER - Alle Emails und Termine fest im Griff) with ESMTPA id <0INY001G2BHPFQ80@smtpout1.a1.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:32:13 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:36:17 +0200 From: Heinz Schnait In-reply-to: <200510022026.46923.oe5eep@aon.at> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <200510062036.17390.oe5eep@aon.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline References: <200510022026.46923.oe5eep@aon.at> User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz activity from OE - POSTPONED Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Our planned fieldday activation of 136kHz has been postponed. I do not know a new date yet, but it will not be on this or the following two weekends. 73 Heinz, OE5EEP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:06:58 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENYGm-0000LN-E1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:06:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENYGm-0000KM-AQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:06:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENYG1-0003wx-F8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:06:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENYG1-0003wn-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:06:09 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENYrg-00013t-Vl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:45:06 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.94]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84FE1B74C2 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006301c5ca8f$dd581ac0$5e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <43453FB5.3050008@hifidelity.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:06:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: VA7LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) OK OK...you caught our second stuff-up as well ! Geez... .you guys are good. (The dds got nudged during one of our sleep-deprived halucinations.) > Dear VA7LF, and all who sail in her, > > I concur with Jay about the frequency shift, or perhaps it > was the 'other end' - we can but live in hope . . . > > On w3eee.com, under 'Argo Gallery', are three snapshots from > 'Grabulator II' last night; the first a big bright nearly > complete 'VA7LF', the last a still recognizable 'VA7LF' but > weaker and down in frequency somewhat. The middle capture > shows the tail-end of the first (the lower frequency of the > DFCW pair) and the beginning of the second one, giving an > idea of the offset. > > Great job, fellas! > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > Jay Rusgrove wrote: > > > VA7LF ops > > > > Just noticed on the 'after sun up' capture that the > signal had moved down in frequency. Until then all VA7LF > transmissions have been consistently on the same > frequency...assuming that is your time slot and signal of > course... > > Jay > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:57:16 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENY7M-000536-KG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:57:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENY7L-00052i-Ok for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:57:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENY6p-0003np-HY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:56:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENY6o-0003ng-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:56:38 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENYiU-0000zF-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:35:35 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.94]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 00A5CB82CB for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003701c5ca8e$88aaf840$5e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000a01c5ca74$bdd2c0d0$8d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:56:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: VA7LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks Jay and John. Just our luck that the only glitch of the 3 day affair was also your best screen capture! It seems that the lack of sleep was catching up with us this morning when, after the first hour, we realized that the DFCW was not DFCW'ing....grin. Have to break down the station and antenna this morning and catch the afternoon ferry back to the land of powerline noise and sirens. 73 / Steve / Scott > My results were very similar to Jay's...not surprising as we are only 100 km > apart. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:16:35 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENXU1-0006oi-Rp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:16:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENXU1-0006ns-MO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:16:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENXTi-0003Wf-Ax for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:16:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENXTh-0003WW-UW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:16:13 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENYJt-0001Mc-H3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:10:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.15.100] (pcp01445734pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.65.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005100615160301400lbc2qe>; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:16:03 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [267.11.9]); Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:16:06 +0000 Message-ID: <43453FB5.3050008@hifidelity.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:16:05 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VA7LF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear VA7LF, and all who sail in her, I concur with Jay about the frequency shift, or perhaps it was the 'other end' - we can but live in hope . . . On w3eee.com, under 'Argo Gallery', are three snapshots from 'Grabulator II' last night; the first a big bright nearly complete 'VA7LF', the last a still recognizable 'VA7LF' but weaker and down in frequency somewhat. The middle capture shows the tail-end of the first (the lower frequency of the DFCW pair) and the beginning of the second one, giving an idea of the offset. Great job, fellas! Cheers, Steve Jay Rusgrove wrote: > VA7LF ops > > Just noticed on the 'after sun up' capture that the signal had moved down in frequency. Until then all VA7LF transmissions have been consistently on the same frequency...assuming that is your time slot and signal of course... > Jay -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:28:26 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENWjR-0001Eg-9I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:28:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENWjR-0001EX-2l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:28:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENWiw-0003Fw-6G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:27:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENWiv-0003Fn-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:27:53 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENXKX-0000EB-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:06:49 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005100614273701300bc31ve>; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 14:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c5ca83$bbdee240$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:39:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: VA7LF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
VA7LF ops
 
Just noticed on the 'after sun up' capture that the signal had moved down in frequency. Until then all VA7LF transmissions have been consistently on the same frequency...assuming that is your time slot and signal of course...  
 
Jay  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:44 AM
Subject: LF: VA7LF

Somewhat lower static levels...better condx...
 
 
 
additional reception after sun up
 
 
Nice signal for a 4000 km all overland path.
 
Jay, W1VD
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:49:46 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENVBv-0003jN-Hz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:49:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENVBv-0003iu-Aq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:49:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENVB4-0002jN-7I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:48:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENVB3-0002jE-Ou for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:48:49 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENVmf-0007tN-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:27:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 31886 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2005 12:48:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 06 Oct 2005 12:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c5ca74$bdd2c0d0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:51:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: VA7LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) My results were very similar to Jay's...not surprising as we are only 100 km apart. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:34:24 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENUx2-0003N5-QD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:34:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENUx2-0003MA-KC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:34:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENUwH-0002aw-HE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:33:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENUwG-0002an-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:33:32 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENVmN-0000Pm-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:27:27 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005100612332201300jm7lve>; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:33:22 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c5ca73$c31af220$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:44:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: VA7LF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Somewhat lower static levels...better condx...
 
 
 
additional reception after sun up
 
 
Nice signal for a 4000 km all overland path.
 
Jay, W1VD
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:22:14 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENNGn-0006gh-HM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:22:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENNGn-0006gU-Aa for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:22:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENNGl-000868-9y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:22:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENNGk-00085z-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:22:10 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav18.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.122] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENO6e-0006rq-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:15:54 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 04:21:57 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:21:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:21:56 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2005 04:21:57.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D90AE20:01C5CA2D] Subject: LF: Re: Re: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Drove by that LF antenna array in Dixon back in '02. Very impressive antenna farm out there. Lots-O-Wire and towers.
 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:17 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 135.92 warning

John & the group
 
Interesting you should mention this. I've been plotting NPG the past couple weeks ala W3EEE DCF39 style graph. The signal is quite strong typically showing up at 0100Z and fading out an hour or so after local sunrise. The signal is strong enough that the frequencies between .925 and .975 become filled with 'white' on an Argo screen. In order to get to a truly clean noise floor for the noise channel measurement it was necessary to move at least 25 kHz outside the carriers.
 
 An early sample before timing issues were sorted out is here: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/NPG1.jpg
 
Had been planning to make this into a 'permanent' upload for propagation study in the next week or so...if there is any interest.
 
A contact at DOD verified it as Dixon CA running 40 kW.
 
Jay 
 
  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:32 AM
Subject: LF: 135.92 warning

The area around 135.922 kHz has been used for Europe to North America
transmission for several years. In May of 2005, a military TTY station in
California started using that part of the band. Following a tip from
Laurence last night, I noticed that the signal is quite loud in the eastern
U.S., and was clearly audible an hour after sunrise this morning.

They are using 50 Hz shift, with carriers on 135.925 and 135.975 kHz. I
don't know what the keying rate is, but the signal is appropriately wide.

Any of you planning transmissions to North America should consider moving
above 136 kHz if this operation continues. Since the east coast is subject
to interference from CFH on 137.00 kHz (+/- a few hundred Hz), there may be
an upper bound. Mercifully, the CFH operation is intermittent, and they have
been quiet since mid-summer. With a number of U.S. and Canadian beacon
stations running 24/7 in the 137.777 kHz range, it would also be advisable
to stay below 137.5 kHz.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:21:18 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENNFt-00083J-6A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:21:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENNFs-00082h-W9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:21:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENNFE-00083p-FQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:20:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENNFE-00083g-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 05:20:36 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENO5C-0006rD-4y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:14:20 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4CD391C001F2 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 06:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-6-46.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.45.46]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 23C151C001E7; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 06:20:28 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051006042028146.23C151C001E7@mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4344A609.8050505@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:20:25 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: VLF_Group@yahoogroups.com, Liste LF RSGB Subject: LF: 3rd october sun eclipse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all I wonder if somebody watched or recorded the Tavolara VLF transmitter (20,27 kHz) during the last sun eclipse. I would like to exchange info and discuss about the data related the amplitude variations I observed. Jean-Louis F6AGR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:52:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENKvP-00038r-Ms for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:52:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENKvP-00038P-GD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:51:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENKuJ-0006Ya-PK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:50:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENKuJ-0006YR-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:50:51 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENLkE-0006LG-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:44:32 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051006015039.KOWR1610.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 14:50:39 +1300 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.117.95]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051006015039.QLWX5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 14:50:39 +1300 Message-ID: <002a01c5ca1a$99325420$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <851569145.20051005165159@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:06:41 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: ZM2E operation 5 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all, Another night where we were happy with ZM2E tx and rx operation, but DX propagation was poor. We received nothing from VA7LF but now see from their reflector message (internet access from home in Wellington) that they received ZM2E before their sunrise. We changed from QSO to beacon mode after ZM2E E and there was an unintended short transmission while a new message was being prepared for beacon mode, and probably we were in beacon mode while they tried a reply to us, so do not know if we would have received their last transmission (but we had obviously no time to be able to complete a QSO). We remain hopeful that our third and last night will be the best of the QSO attempts. R6L had tx problems for the second night running so we had no opportunity to receive them. They may have got traces of ZM2E. Once again we are hoping that things will work out better tonight. 73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENG0v-0007dN-1T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENG0u-0007d5-QJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:37:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENFzz-0005Gy-12 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:36:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENFzx-0005Gp-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:36:21 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENGpl-0005LH-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 22:29:56 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.75]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C26DB7834; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009a01c5c9ec$6947b8a0$4b11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: "R Vernall" , "Martin Mac Gregor, AScT" , "Sally Craig" References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:36:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030608050700000309050403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030608050700000309050403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Too the wondering world It looked like it would be two nights in a row that we were shut-out to ZM2E but during the dawn twilight their signal suddenly rose out of the noise for one complete "O" copy of their call. More interestingly, the signal was heard on the big (quiet) vertical and nary a peep on the 10' loop. Not sure what that is all about yet. Reception time was from 1244Z through 1358Z. Please see the enclosed grab taken at 1404UTC. We noted what looked like the 'E' at the end of the sequence and stumbled over our sleepy eyelids and rebuttled 'VA7LF Z E' as the Sun started peaking through the clouds on the eastern horizon... We have also noted an interesting corellation between the tides and our impedance match. We now have a "HI TIDE" and a "LOW TIDE" tap which requires young TIL to scramble down the cliff with mountain goat-like nimbleness in the 0300 darkness and switch taps while I maintain vigilence by the fireplace in the shack :-). As a convenient 'visual' of our on-air status, we have also placed a 4' fluorescent bulb, vertically near the antenna which throws an eery glow over the entire area. I'm sure the several huge deep sea tankers going past us every night are wondering about the new and unmarked light station at Tily Point! This allows Scott to assume a horizontal polarization while monitoring the station during the wee hours... Some of the west coast ndb DXers have reported poor conditions to the south Pacific over the past two mornings but much enhanced condx to the north Pacific, Japan and Alaska. I'm not sure that there is too much corellation between what is heard in the ndb band and 2200m but it does seem that we have picked a period of rather dismal conditions towards ZL. The conditions we observed this morning with the noise dropping to near daylight levels seemed to directly correlate to sunrise over the US midwest where a nasty looking cloud of lightning strikes was occuring all night... Hmmmm... One more kick at the can tonight. 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2005 16:27:14 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENBAo-0005Lz-8b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:27:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENBAo-0005Lg-26 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:27:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENBAT-000448-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:26:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENBAS-00043z-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:26:52 +0100 Received: from bay102-f37.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.47] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENC06-000400-AY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:20:20 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:26:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.44] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:26:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2005 15:26:38.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D9FDDD0:01C5C9C1] Subject: LF: Overnight reception in Okie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I was running two rx stations overnight - one "mobile" with the eprobe magmounted on the car roof, frg100, computer etc and the other being the main station tx loop into the 870. It was a very very noizy night qrn wise with a strong canadian cold front lifting the warm air and causing flashes and bangs over a huge swarth of the northern plains and lakes area gradually moving in a sweep SE direction. Noiz frrom these storms from the car was avg 9+10-20 with avg agc. I reckon most of the states and Canadian rx stations would be suffering badly (perhaps not...) Even so Warrens XGJ was visible on both systems for part of the night with Dexs' signal huge most of the time - Both systems also showed MP close to 776 at times Good visible signals from VA7LF from switch on co channel with ZM2E. I only saw smatterings of what might have been the ZL signal at their transmission times but nothing I can decode. VA7LF continued to be visible some 30 mins after OK dawn, so I know they are radiating stronglyl! The West coast DOD station close to 136Khz was audibly strong last night and into dawn this morning too, but nothing from CFH. Im happy with the mobile set up and will be listening from XE mobile from this weekend until the 15th or so. Laurence KL1X LF Grabbers on http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/eu00000.jpg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:55:27 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAg2-0002uc-Re for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:55:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAg2-0002uP-Jj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:55:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAff-0003ow-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:55:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAfe-0003on-EA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:55:02 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENBGu-0000Al-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:33:35 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005100514545201300jouhpe>; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:54:52 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c5c9be$1f4f7f40$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <1128522884.4343e4847a617@webmail.telus.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:04:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Scott
 
Thanks for the information.
 
Also been running a 2 second 'refresh' spectrum analyzer display showing the two carriers. Watching for the past couple weeks I haven't noticed a one or the other carrier situation. The two are always within a couple dB of each other. Will keep an eye open for that, though. Easy enough to add another channel...
 
Sounds like the signal is MUCH stronger at your location.
 
GL with ZL.
 
Jay
 
 
 
 
---- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 135.92 warning

Hey Jay

Care should be taken when measuring the strenght of that CA station... From
time to time it stops modulation for seemingly random periods of time and may
idle on either carrier freq, which one? seems random to me... I include three
plots on my Spec Lab plot to detect this.  Two are measuring the peak in a
narrow BW around each carrier.  The third is measuring the average signal
strenght of the 50Hz BW signal (maybe abit more I can't remember as the plotter
is at home...)  I also look at a spot about 100Hz above and below for the noise
floor measurement of anything less and the noise floor varies with its signal
strenght... This seems like a good setup for monitoring from here...

I find the signal is at our noise floor during the day (s0-s1) and peaks at
night at over +30db over S9 on my rig.

I've noted correlations between flares and its signal strenght as well...

Back to trying to work that pesky ZL...

73 Scott



Quoting Jay Rusgrove <JRusgrove@comcast.net>:

> John & the group
>
> Interesting you should mention this. I've been plotting NPG the past couple
> weeks ala W3EEE DCF39 style graph. The signal is quite strong typically
> showing up at 0100Z and fading out an hour or so after local sunrise. The
> signal is strong enough that the frequencies between .925 and .975 become
> filled with 'white' on an Argo screen. In order to get to a truly clean noise
> floor for the noise channel measurement it was necessary to move at least 25
> kHz outside the carriers.
>
>  An early sample before timing issues were sorted out is here:
> http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/NPG1.jpg
>
> Had been planning to make this into a 'permanent' upload for propagation
> study in the next week or so...if there is any interest.
>
> A contact at DOD verified it as Dixon CA running 40 kW.
>
> Jay
>
>  
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John Andrews
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:32 AM
>   Subject: LF: 135.92 warning
>
>
>   The area around 135.922 kHz has been used for Europe to North America
>   transmission for several years. In May of 2005, a military TTY station in
>   California started using that part of the band. Following a tip from
>   Laurence last night, I noticed that the signal is quite loud in the
> eastern
>   U.S., and was clearly audible an hour after sunrise this morning.
>
>   They are using 50 Hz shift, with carriers on 135.925 and 135.975 kHz. I
>   don't know what the keying rate is, but the signal is appropriately wide.
>
>   Any of you planning transmissions to North America should consider moving
>   above 136 kHz if this operation continues. Since the east coast is subject
>   to interference from CFH on 137.00 kHz (+/- a few hundred Hz), there may
> be
>   an upper bound. Mercifully, the CFH operation is intermittent, and they
> have
>   been quiet since mid-summer. With a number of U.S. and Canadian beacon
>   stations running 24/7 in the 137.777 kHz range, it would also be advisable
>   to stay below 137.5 kHz.
>
>   John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>
>




From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:52:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAdG-0006Ju-Aj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:52:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAdF-0006JJ-Uc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:52:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAd5-0003k2-33 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:52:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAd4-0003jt-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:52:22 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENBSi-0003cU-9U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:45:49 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ENAcy-00084x-00; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:52:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GMvkkcZ6geciU73jEr-+mUSddErUkflUgr0QWLjbkJ2HfcreVXF2rK@[84.133.82.242]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ENAcj-1LBIG00; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:52:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:51:59 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <851569145.20051005165159@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GMvkkcZ6geciU73jEr-+mUSddErUkflUgr0QWLjbkJ2HfcreVXF2rK X-TOI-MSGID: 9eacbb0a-caf7-45c9-a00b-a4ab3b210675 Subject: LF: TA 4/5 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) During local dawn I captured strong signals of WD2XGJ and WD2XKO. Only weak copy of the QRSS120 signal from VO1NA. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:35:13 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAMS-00056O-Cu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:35:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENAMR-00055S-Ge for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:35:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAMB-0003c8-69 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENAMA-0003bz-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:34:54 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENAxP-0008Rl-IR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:13:26 +0100 Received: from localhost ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20051005143444.PZR13396.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@localhost> for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:34:44 -0600 Received: from 204.244.17.98 ( [204.244.17.98]) as user sthed475@204.209.205.53 by webmail.telus.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:34:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1128522884.4343e4847a617@webmail.telus.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:34:44 -0700 From: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 204.244.17.98 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hey Jay Care should be taken when measuring the strenght of that CA station... From time to time it stops modulation for seemingly random periods of time and may idle on either carrier freq, which one? seems random to me... I include three plots on my Spec Lab plot to detect this. Two are measuring the peak in a narrow BW around each carrier. The third is measuring the average signal strenght of the 50Hz BW signal (maybe abit more I can't remember as the plotter is at home...) I also look at a spot about 100Hz above and below for the noise floor measurement of anything less and the noise floor varies with its signal strenght... This seems like a good setup for monitoring from here... I find the signal is at our noise floor during the day (s0-s1) and peaks at night at over +30db over S9 on my rig. I've noted correlations between flares and its signal strenght as well... Back to trying to work that pesky ZL... 73 Scott Quoting Jay Rusgrove : > John & the group > > Interesting you should mention this. I've been plotting NPG the past couple > weeks ala W3EEE DCF39 style graph. The signal is quite strong typically > showing up at 0100Z and fading out an hour or so after local sunrise. The > signal is strong enough that the frequencies between .925 and .975 become > filled with 'white' on an Argo screen. In order to get to a truly clean noise > floor for the noise channel measurement it was necessary to move at least 25 > kHz outside the carriers. > > An early sample before timing issues were sorted out is here: > http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/NPG1.jpg > > Had been planning to make this into a 'permanent' upload for propagation > study in the next week or so...if there is any interest. > > A contact at DOD verified it as Dixon CA running 40 kW. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Andrews > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:32 AM > Subject: LF: 135.92 warning > > > The area around 135.922 kHz has been used for Europe to North America > transmission for several years. In May of 2005, a military TTY station in > California started using that part of the band. Following a tip from > Laurence last night, I noticed that the signal is quite loud in the > eastern > U.S., and was clearly audible an hour after sunrise this morning. > > They are using 50 Hz shift, with carriers on 135.925 and 135.975 kHz. I > don't know what the keying rate is, but the signal is appropriately wide. > > Any of you planning transmissions to North America should consider moving > above 136 kHz if this operation continues. Since the east coast is subject > to interference from CFH on 137.00 kHz (+/- a few hundred Hz), there may > be > an upper bound. Mercifully, the CFH operation is intermittent, and they > have > been quiet since mid-summer. With a number of U.S. and Canadian beacon > stations running 24/7 in the 137.777 kHz range, it would also be advisable > to stay below 137.5 kHz. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENA09-0000I4-O1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ENA09-0000Hu-KI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ENA00-0003Tj-LD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ENA00-0003Ta-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:00 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENApf-0003QE-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:05:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 13378 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2005 14:11:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 05 Oct 2005 14:11:47 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c5c9b7$2ded6d20$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:15:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay, >...it was necessary to move at least 25 kHz outside the carriers. Now, THAT's a wide signal! JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:07:46 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9vt-0001Rd-JR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:07:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9vt-0001RD-Eo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:07:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9vo-0003O8-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:07:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9vn-0003Nz-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:07:39 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.198.54] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENAlS-0003OS-6t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:01:05 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005100514072301400936ffe>; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:07:28 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c5c9b7$80430080$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:17:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
John & the group
 
Interesting you should mention this. I've been plotting NPG the past couple weeks ala W3EEE DCF39 style graph. The signal is quite strong typically showing up at 0100Z and fading out an hour or so after local sunrise. The signal is strong enough that the frequencies between .925 and .975 become filled with 'white' on an Argo screen. In order to get to a truly clean noise floor for the noise channel measurement it was necessary to move at least 25 kHz outside the carriers.
 
 An early sample before timing issues were sorted out is here: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/NPG1.jpg
 
Had been planning to make this into a 'permanent' upload for propagation study in the next week or so...if there is any interest.
 
A contact at DOD verified it as Dixon CA running 40 kW.
 
Jay 
 
  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:32 AM
Subject: LF: 135.92 warning

The area around 135.922 kHz has been used for Europe to North America
transmission for several years. In May of 2005, a military TTY station in
California started using that part of the band. Following a tip from
Laurence last night, I noticed that the signal is quite loud in the eastern
U.S., and was clearly audible an hour after sunrise this morning.

They are using 50 Hz shift, with carriers on 135.925 and 135.975 kHz. I
don't know what the keying rate is, but the signal is appropriately wide.

Any of you planning transmissions to North America should consider moving
above 136 kHz if this operation continues. Since the east coast is subject
to interference from CFH on 137.00 kHz (+/- a few hundred Hz), there may be
an upper bound. Mercifully, the CFH operation is intermittent, and they have
been quiet since mid-summer. With a number of U.S. and Canadian beacon
stations running 24/7 in the 137.777 kHz range, it would also be advisable
to stay below 137.5 kHz.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:04:13 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9sS-0007Md-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:04:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9sR-0007LR-9O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:04:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9sC-0003Gz-QT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:03:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9sC-0003Gq-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:03:56 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENATT-0008BV-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:42:28 +0100 Received: from DK6JL@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.1da.45bfad99 (57365) for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:03:37 -0400 (EDT) From: DK6JL@aol.com Message-ID: <1da.45bfad99.30753739@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:03:37 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5005 Subject: Re: LF: DK0UH Longwave Activity Day 1./2, October 2005 of the DARC District ... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hallo aus Nettetal!
 
hatte extra für Euch, nach mehrjähriger Pause, wieder LW aktiviert!!! habe Euchg immer hören können und mich über die teilweise merkwürdige Betriebstechnik gewundert; manchmal QSX und dann wieder einfach Ende des Rufes ohne die üblichen Floskeln.
Hier in der Nähe von Krefeld, in JO 31 AH, mit 60-70 Watt an einer 10 m Vertikal immer wieder gerufen. Wird demnächst hoffentlich mal klappen, Schade um die Mühe bei dem regen!!
 
Gruß
Rüdiger 
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:55:28 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9jw-0003y2-Ur for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:55:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9jv-0003xj-Vs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:55:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9jO-0003BF-HC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:54:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9jN-0003B6-U0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:54:49 +0100 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENAKe-00087O-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:33:21 +0100 Received: from [82.44.37.214] ([82.44.37.214]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:55:38 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.11.10]); Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:55:01 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01c5c9b4$61a61de0$d6252c52@derekm3uttnxf9> From: "DEREK ATTER" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:55:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2005 13:55:38.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[773AB6C0:01C5C9B4] Subject: LF: Re: Special Event Station MB2HFC 7/8/9 Oct. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi LF'ers The RSGB will again this year be running the HF Conference HFC2005 at the Gatwick Worth Hotel just outside Crawley in Sussex over the weekend 7/8/9October and the special event station MB2HFC will be operating on the HF bands and also on 136khz over the weekend. Crawley Amateur Radio Club will be providing logistic support to the conference including deploying a variety of HF antennas including an HF beam at 20m AGL and several E/H antennas for comparison. We also plan to erect a 136khz station with a 1KW ex-Decca amplifier and FT100MP as prime- mover. The transmitting antenna will be 20m vertical wire with two 40m top loading wires spaced about 2m apart. Experience gained from last year's event showed that the hotel has a high local electrical noise level on LF so we are unlikely to be able to use the TX ant on receive - we also have Loran QRM to contend with! Jim M0BMU has kindly volunteered to deploy his double- nulling loop receiving antenna hopefully in a quiet spot outside in the grounds away from the main sources of electrical noise. We also intend to have a back-up receiver system by taking 136khz signals the local MB7LF remote receiver at the Crawley Club HQ relayed via 2m at 144.986Mhz (which equates to 136.000 kHz). The 2m receiver will have an LO source from a high-stability ovened source checked against the MSF national frequency standard. We expect to be QRV much of the time much over the weekend both on hand-CW and QRSS from Friday evening onwards (7th Oct) through to Sunday mid-day (9th Oct) depending on availability of operators - we will also be attending some of the lectures from time to time. Any delegates attending the conference wishing to have an operating spell on 136Khz will be most welcome. Contact me, G3GRO, in the Hotel or Jim M0BMU or any of the Crawley stewards on duty at the time. I will flag any further info on the reflector. 73, Derek Atter G3GRO for Crawley ARC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernall" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX > Hi all, > > Confirming ZM2E had an active night transmitting wise, got part of the > VA7LF > call sign and there were problems for R6L (RU6LA special call sign) > transmitting when it came to QSO time. > > Around 0840 UTC we received quite a good 7 at 120 second dot length and > elements either side fitted what would be VA7LF, but that part call sign > was > the best we got in all the various receiving times for ZM2E before Gulf > Island sunrise. > > When it came time to try R6L we were advised by HF liaison that R6L had > problems, and we should start the QSO rather than the earlier arrangement > that R6L would start at 1500 UTC. We later got advice to go to beacon > mode > so at 1637 UTC we set the message to ZM2E ZM2E .... and got to bed earlier > than expected. The beacon ran till well after ZL sunrise. > > From the other reports it would seem DX propagation was "not good". > > We are back tonight for another bite at the cherry. > > 73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: > 04/10/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 04/10/2005 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:30:27 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9Lk-0002TI-HH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:30:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN9Lk-0002SG-6u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:30:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9LQ-00031t-BR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:30:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN9LP-00031k-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:30:03 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ENAB4-0003D0-20 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:23:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 26654 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2005 13:29:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 05 Oct 2005 13:29:45 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c5c9b1$4ebe0ec0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:32:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: 135.92 warning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The area around 135.922 kHz has been used for Europe to North America transmission for several years. In May of 2005, a military TTY station in California started using that part of the band. Following a tip from Laurence last night, I noticed that the signal is quite loud in the eastern U.S., and was clearly audible an hour after sunrise this morning. They are using 50 Hz shift, with carriers on 135.925 and 135.975 kHz. I don't know what the keying rate is, but the signal is appropriately wide. Any of you planning transmissions to North America should consider moving above 136 kHz if this operation continues. Since the east coast is subject to interference from CFH on 137.00 kHz (+/- a few hundred Hz), there may be an upper bound. Mercifully, the CFH operation is intermittent, and they have been quiet since mid-summer. With a number of U.S. and Canadian beacon stations running 24/7 in the 137.777 kHz range, it would also be advisable to stay below 137.5 kHz. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:40:53 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN8Zo-0005TW-EV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:40:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN8Zo-0005TO-6Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:40:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN8Z3-0002oh-Kd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:40:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN8Z3-0002oY-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:40:05 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN9Oe-0002zB-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:33:29 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate04.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j95CdjQL020059; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:39:52 +0200 Received: from [217.248.194.84] by freemailng1802.web.de with HTTP; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:39:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:39:52 +0200 Message-Id: <481928565@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: claus@bensenet.de, dk1sb@gmx.de, dk7su@gmx.de, dl3sfk@darc.de, markusvester@aol.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Subject: LF: =?iso-8859-1?Q?DK0UH=20=20Longwave=20Activity=20Day=201./2,=20October=202005=20of=20the=20DARC=20District=20W=FCrttemberg=20?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear OMs; this year Our LW-Acty-day at 1./2. October was somewhat different to the previous years. Due to severe rain we erected the antenna near the plummers room in the farm , where we hade placed the radio equipment. The distance from the famr to the aereal was nearly the same as in the last year, but no reception was possible ( no calls heard) . So we worked mainly crossband, though cq-generator was active on 136 k. Thanks to all those who have confirmed reception. We think about haveing this day in spring (about May) or cancel it, when again such a wether with predicted 30 mm precipitations is coming. We, the active hams of club section P41 are all about the average age of 52 years (+/-) and we are neither heroes nor leisure time rambos..... I now go for hollidays to Kyklades islands, and hope I will have a second summer . See Our Homepage of "DARC Ortsverband Hohenstaufen DOK P41" for fotos of the Acty Day (Google: DARC Hohenstaufen P41) 55, Hans-Albrecht Haffa DK 8 ND rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org schrieb am 14.08.05 22:09:09: > > > > German Longwave Activity Day of the DARC District Württemberg > > Dear OMs and LWLs, > > like in the last year, the DARC association Hohenstaufen P41 (DOK P41) is arranging the Longwave Activity Day of the DARC District Württemberg. > > Start: Saturday, 1st October 2005, 12.00 UTC > End: Sunday, 2nd October 2005, 12.00 UTC > > > > Starting on Saturday afternoon at 12.00 UTC until Sunday 12.00 UTC it will be transmitted on the longwave frequency 136 kHz in CW, in the evening in the mode QRSS-CW. > > Our preferred frequencies: > > > CW 136,50 kHz, QRSS-CW 137,70 kHz, qrss3 (one cw-dot lasts three seconds) QSK QSU (please reply exact on the used frequency). > > > > Transmitt operation is performed with the club call DK 0 UH and the operators call. Please QSL via bureau, please qsl to operator too. > > Our Locator: JN48TM in D-72589 Westerheim, south of the City Goeppingen. Confirming operation (ZAP) is performed on HF 7021 kHz, the request is made on Longwave. > > IF-Bandwidth used is 100 Hz, Audio BW for QRSS will be about 100 Hz too. > > > > Hans-Albrecht Haffa > > DK 8 ND Chairman P41 > > Klaus Ruoff > > DK SB Press Responsible > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Mit der Gruppen-SMS von WEB.DE FreeMail können Sie eine SMS an alle > Freunde gleichzeitig schicken: http://freemail.web.de/features/?mc=021179 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:12:06 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN2Va-00042r-9C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:12:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EN2Va-00042i-3G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:12:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EN2XG-0001bl-1V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:13:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EN2XE-0001bc-Tn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 07:13:48 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN3Ml-0001SP-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 08:07:05 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.96]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 311EFB6DD2; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001901c5c973$ed192fc0$6011f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:13:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: VA7LF Vertical Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080102040406030900040202" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080102040406030900040202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is our tx antenna system. There is a 150' rising top load wire that cannot be seen as well as another 20' wire section down to the beach where it is fed. The piece in the photo is 85'. 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+0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN0tD-00059m-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 05:28:28 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.73]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B27F3B87E4; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005301c5c95f$dae8e7a0$4911f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:49:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: [LW] grabs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Bless you Laurence! All very much appreciated. Have a safe trip. 73 / Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMzUX-0001qs-80 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMzUW-0001qS-Th for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMzTs-0000qN-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMzTs-0000qE-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:58:08 +0100 Received: from bay102-f20.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.30] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EN0JK-00010i-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 04:51:20 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:58:04 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:58:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.117.134] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:58:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2005 02:58:04.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF4D9D0:01C5C958] Subject: LF: grabs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit KL1X will leave the rx on 137 Khz - two argo screens updating evey three or so mins for the next week or so subject to black outs, moths, squirrels and my friendly groundhog. http://myweb.cableone.net/flow main web site KL1X http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/dx00000.jpg Normal Americas' sub band (friendly to our VE friends!) http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/eu00000.jpg Carrying the ZL/VA test grabs "channel" XXX MOBILE REPORT XXX >From KL1X/ Mobile Oklahoma at 0250z - XKO is very strong (audible beneath the S9 qrm) and beginnings of XGJ perhaps If I compare this against the main array and TS870 Ive perhaps got 1dB s/n imovement on the large tx loop, thats all. The E probe i on the car however is within 200 ft of the loop and maybe getting a little ommpf coupling. All seems well for the XE LF rxpedition Good luck tonite chaps! Laurence em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:38:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMyER-0002Bo-Gy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:38:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMyER-00026i-DJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:38:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMyDo-0000Zf-RC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:37:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMyDo-0000ZW-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:37:28 +0100 Received: from bay102-f41.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.51] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMz3E-0000q2-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:30:38 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:37:21 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:37:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <010a01c5c943$1b926d20$4e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:37:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2005 01:37:21.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[5433E8C0:01C5C94D] Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Steve et al - XDW will be off tonite to give the locals some peace - Im running the main station array/Argo and maybe ftp the Argo captures to the home web site - Also running the XE mobile set up in the driveway so we will see what happens. Good luck and hope condx improve. You were a good signal pre dawn here when I whacked the array onto the rx for a few mins. Laurence KL1X / wd2xdw (xdw now off till late 16th Oct) ;-)) >From: "Steve McDonald" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >CC: "Lowfer (LWCA)" >Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX >Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:24:09 -0700 > >Steve . we really appreciate your grabs! >All three captures are of us, and correspond to our tx time slots. >Things were unusual last night in that it is the first time that we have >ever seen absolutely nothing from down under...very discouraging. Hopefully >condx will be better on the T-P path tonight. The unidentified lines that >we >saw last time (possibly Loran?) from the Pacific that always fade up and >down along with the ZM2E signal failed miserably to materialize...it was a >bad night. This qth is soooo quiet that domestic signals (Laurence / Dex) >on >the 100' vertical were just as good and sometimes better than on the big >10' >loop. > >73 VA7LF > > > > > Hi John, > > > > Some fragmentary 'Grabulator II' captures of ZM2E from last > > night's run are on the website under 'Argo Gallery'. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve > > > > > > http://www.w3eee.com > > > > > > > > John Andrews wrote: > > > It looks like Steve's Grabulator II caught part of the exchange, as >well, > > > but it's mostly off the screen at this point. > > > > > > John A. > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:18 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5y-0001e9-24 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5x-0001e0-U0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx4t-0000Dz-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx4s-0000Dm-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:10 +0100 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMxft-0004NO-Oz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:02:29 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.194]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051005002353.QFFW9771.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:23:53 +1300 Received: from web1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.117.95]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051005002353.JPJL2213.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@web1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:23:53 +1300 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.117.95]) by web1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail vG.2.00.00.00 201-2161-108-101-20050407) with SMTP id <20051005002352.ZJVT28588.web1-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:23:52 +1300 Message-ID: <001f01c5c945$4d9a2040$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:39:44 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all, Confirming ZM2E had an active night transmitting wise, got part of the VA7LF call sign and there were problems for R6L (RU6LA special call sign) transmitting when it came to QSO time. Around 0840 UTC we received quite a good 7 at 120 second dot length and elements either side fitted what would be VA7LF, but that part call sign was the best we got in all the various receiving times for ZM2E before Gulf Island sunrise. When it came time to try R6L we were advised by HF liaison that R6L had problems, and we should start the QSO rather than the earlier arrangement that R6L would start at 1500 UTC. We later got advice to go to beacon mode so at 1637 UTC we set the message to ZM2E ZM2E .... and got to bed earlier than expected. The beacon ran till well after ZL sunrise. >From the other reports it would seem DX propagation was "not good". We are back tonight for another bite at the cherry. 73, Bob ZL2CA and Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:15 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5t-00084J-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMx5t-000845-Hk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:25:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx53-0000EC-EH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMx52-0000E3-KH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:20 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMxg2-0004NZ-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:02:39 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.94]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 22309B6DC9; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <010a01c5c943$1b926d20$4e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Lowfer (LWCA)" References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <000801c5c8e2$1449eb80$8d01a8c0@JKA> <4342C47E.60507@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:24:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Steve . we really appreciate your grabs! All three captures are of us, and correspond to our tx time slots. Things were unusual last night in that it is the first time that we have ever seen absolutely nothing from down under...very discouraging. Hopefully condx will be better on the T-P path tonight. The unidentified lines that we saw last time (possibly Loran?) from the Pacific that always fade up and down along with the ZM2E signal failed miserably to materialize...it was a bad night. This qth is soooo quiet that domestic signals (Laurence / Dex) on the 100' vertical were just as good and sometimes better than on the big 10' loop. 73 VA7LF > Hi John, > > Some fragmentary 'Grabulator II' captures of ZM2E from last > night's run are on the website under 'Argo Gallery'. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > http://www.w3eee.com > > > > John Andrews wrote: > > It looks like Steve's Grabulator II caught part of the exchange, as well, > > but it's mostly off the screen at this point. > > > > John A. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:27:51 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMtO9-0001KG-Pu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:27:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMtO9-0001Jb-6j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:27:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMtMe-0007v7-8n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:26:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMtMd-0007uy-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:26:15 +0100 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMtxa-0003LY-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:04:30 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.12c.6793bad4 (3310) for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <12c.6793bad4.30743f5a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:26:02 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: LF: Re TA 3/4 Oct Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Nice traces in Nuernberg again from XKO, XES and XGJ yesterday (October 3rd), and two this morning. Nothing seen from Joe. Copies of the original screengrabber shots are at
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_3Oct05.gif (292 kB) and
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/TA_4Oct05.gif (316 kB).

73, and thanks for sending us these signals.

Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:15:09 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMtBp-0002Gh-Ex for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:15:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMtBp-0002C3-9c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:15:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMtB8-0007oJ-Rk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:14:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMtB8-0007oA-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:14:22 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMu0P-0008Of-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:07:26 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMtB1-0000ZE-00; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:14:15 +0200 Received: from HW1 (VO8XdOZpwehibxELWWgF48ZBsMdzkLdydjBKRkKVCAisE0WISsKure@[84.133.68.18]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EMtAn-1HUmcC0; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 22:14:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 22:13:51 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6210588158.20051004221351@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: VO8XdOZpwehibxELWWgF48ZBsMdzkLdydjBKRkKVCAisE0WISsKure X-TOI-MSGID: f515d5e4-3c03-4fe4-aa86-171708f6ba13 Subject: LF: RU6LA on 137.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Ed, great QRSS3 signal here in Germany as usual. Good luck for the ZL attempt. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:39 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMrRz-00057H-CY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMrRz-000575-8G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMrRg-0007SO-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMrRg-0007SF-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:20 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMs2e-0002QA-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:01:33 +0100 Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051004182313.NFQI21883.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:23:13 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.106.33]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051004182313.VLCV13031.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:23:13 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:23:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4342D69B.7336.961E24@localhost> In-reply-to: <200510022026.46923.oe5eep@aon.at> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz activity from OE Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Heinz, Will the activity be just CW, or will there be QRSS? Mike, G3XDV =========== > Our local radio club will hold its annual fieldday on Saturday, > October 8. This years main activity will be an activation of 136kHz. > The operating site is a cottage out in the country. There is > electricity but no telephone or internet. > We have two transmitters with spare FET's available (G3YXM designs). > Receiving equipment will include various bandpass filters, > preamplifiers, a converter and commercial transceivers. The landscape > at the operating site is mainly meadows (pasture for cattle) with > plenty of old trees around. We plan to build a toploaded Marconi > antenna. A vertical section of 15 - 20m and 100 - 200m in two opposite > directions should be possible. We have a loading coil wound on a rain > barrel and test equipment for resonating the antenna. > We will start at about 0700UTC and operate until the evening hours. > The fieldday activity is centered on this one day, but as long as the > antenna stays up we might continue working longwave during the week > and the following weekends. It certainly will not be a permanent > installation. Callsigns on the air will include OE5EEP, OE5ODL, > OE5PGL, OE5MW and possibly some others. > 73 Heinz, OE5EEP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:06:34 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMrBR-0000hM-I2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:06:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMrBR-0000hC-F9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:06:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMrAv-0007K5-8N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:06:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMrAu-0007Jw-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:06:00 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.118] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMrlq-0002Im-BU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:44:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.15.100] (pcp01445734pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.65.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005100418055001500ba0iue>; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:05:50 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [267.11.9]); Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:05:50 +0000 Message-ID: <4342C47E.60507@hifidelity.com> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:05:50 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <000801c5c8e2$1449eb80$8d01a8c0@JKA> In-Reply-To: <000801c5c8e2$1449eb80$8d01a8c0@JKA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi John, Some fragmentary 'Grabulator II' captures of ZM2E from last night's run are on the website under 'Argo Gallery'. Cheers, Steve http://www.w3eee.com John Andrews wrote: > It looks like Steve's Grabulator II caught part of the exchange, as well, > but it's mostly off the screen at this point. > > John A. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 09/29/05 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMprY-0007EN-S5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMprY-0007ED-Ot for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMpqf-00074d-V2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMpqf-00074U-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:41:01 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMqfq-0007Vq-Ck for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:34:00 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMpqX-0001Xg-04; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:40:53 +0200 Received: from HW1 (EX-esmZSwer5NsP-2ARyd5SthHx0EqUapThJFs4yfgeDHaUkIIAJc-@[84.133.60.187]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EMpqI-0jgJkG0; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:40:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:32:56 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1454682823.20051004183256@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer (LWCA)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EX-esmZSwer5NsP-2ARyd5SthHx0EqUapThJFs4yfgeDHaUkIIAJc- X-TOI-MSGID: 604feb2d-9c92-4639-b11b-7740cc344ab0 Subject: LF: TA 3/4 Oct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Again a night with good captures of XGJ and XKO. Started with traces from XGJ about 22:00utc and XKO about 22:30utc. There was a deeper fading period for XGJ 04:00-05:00 and for XKO 01:00-01:30. Fade out for both stations about 06:15. Only weak signal, mostly traces from VO1NA 20:30-06:00 utc. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:57:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMoEr-0006d8-6D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:57:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMoEr-0006ck-0o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:57:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMoDL-0006jY-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:56:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMoDL-0006jP-G0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:56:19 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMooC-0000tt-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:34:29 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMoDD-00052P-03; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:56:11 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (XNxp1sZrZeT2pg11D8D8jCBTxNWGep-xfFI+OEEHS6RzAL6gwyWw6p@[217.245.120.28]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EMoD0-0RgRHM0; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:55:58 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:55:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: XNxp1sZrZeT2pg11D8D8jCBTxNWGep-xfFI+OEEHS6RzAL6gwyWw6p X-TOI-MSGID: a6a84342-59a1-4a13-9aff-84d6c1b12925 Subject: LF: LF linear preedrive Mods for TDA 2030 for OM2TW by DL4EAU Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi LF's,
Uwe, dj8wx, asked me for a PA with TDA2030.
I built up the original OM2TW PA and had some problems!
After my mods, ( in red circles) it still running very fine!
Output transformer is a ring N30 AL4100nH 20mm x 10mm x 7,6mm
rik 20 by http://www.reichelt.de 1,15 Euro or any else.
PA datas:
13,8V / 1,5A abt. 6W ------  linear abt.4,5W !! @136Khz
73' Tom DL4EAU

http://www.qsl.net/dl4eau/TDA2030mod.pdf



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMnvY-0003sv-1L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMnvX-0003sf-RX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMnuy-0006ce-5P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMnux-0006cV-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:37:19 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMoVr-0000jX-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:15:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 91083 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 14:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.218.132 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2005 14:37:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c5c8f1$1e1cbac0$84da7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" , "Lowfer \(LWCA\)" Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:36:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: XKO in UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi all trawling through some very noisy captures centred on 137.777 last night I see I have an "X(?)KO" .The inter-element gap between the first dash and first dot are filled with noise otherwise a clear decode at around 0500z. I think this is the first time I have seen Dex. The screen was ARGO 30 sec dot slow. Warren was there as well and possibly John but not a decodable trace due to the noise. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:11:09 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmZY-00012m-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:11:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmZY-000129-2N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:11:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmZL-0006KM-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:10:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmZK-0006KD-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:10:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMnAC-0008V0-Db for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:49:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 6333 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 13:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2005 13:10:45 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c5c8e5$79b15d20$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <434279C8.1020301@att.net> <01fe01c5c8e4$8678f5a0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:13:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: LF: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) >Much better copy than here...had a few elements around 0918Z (frequency measured as 137788.63) but not enough to warrant a post. Moderate static here last night & this morning < And I tried, but the XGJ signal at 25 miles had things pretty much wiped out. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:57:27 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmMI-00068w-BR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:57:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmMI-00068k-6x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:57:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmM5-0006Dy-6M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:57:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmM4-0006Dp-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:57:12 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMnBF-0006VH-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:50:07 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005100412565701400l3qtne>; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:57:03 +0000 Message-ID: <01fe01c5c8e4$8678f5a0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> <434279C8.1020301@att.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:07:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: LF: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Lloyd
 
Much better copy than here...had a few elements around 0918Z (frequency measured as 137788.63) but not enough to warrant a post. Moderate static here last night & this morning  ;~(
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: LF: ZM2E LF DX

chastant wrote:

> Beginning about 1045Z hr in Maryland here is the Argo capture of what
> is probably ZM2E QSO activity.
>
> www.geocities.com/lacwman/zm2e.jpg
>

Lloyd,

That's good copy considering the QRN I'm sure your were also receiving
from the noise generator off the SC coast.

Dex
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmCZ-0002Di-Lc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmCZ-0002Db-Ij for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmBr-00062n-EV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:46:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmBr-00062e-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:46:39 +0100 Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.221]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMn12-0006QM-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:39:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 21578 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 12:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2005 12:46:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c5c8e2$1449eb80$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:49:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) It looks like Steve's Grabulator II caught part of the exchange, as well, but it's mostly off the screen at this point. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:02 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmCE-0007Ph-Dv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMmCE-0007Nv-AT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmCD-00063i-UN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMmCD-00063X-If for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:47:01 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMn1O-0006QW-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:39:55 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005100412464811300fkl5he>; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:46:54 +0000 Message-ID: <434279C8.1020301@att.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 08:47:04 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> In-Reply-To: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> Subject: Re: LF: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) chastant wrote: > Beginning about 1045Z hr in Maryland here is the Argo capture of what > is probably ZM2E QSO activity. > > www.geocities.com/lacwman/zm2e.jpg > Lloyd, That's good copy considering the QRN I'm sure your were also receiving from the noise generator off the SC coast. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:43:03 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMm8K-0004az-V4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:43:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMm8J-0004a0-Px for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:43:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMm88-0005y3-FU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:42:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMm87-0005xu-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:42:47 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMmxI-0006OA-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:35:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 20026 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 12:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2005 12:42:31 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c5c8e1$87aa02f0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:45:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Lloyd, > Beginning about 1045Z hr in Maryland here is the Argo capture of what is > probably ZM2E QSO activity. It looks like you caught most of the VA7LF callsign, with the "F" being questionable. Good work, considering that the sun was up at your end. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:36:23 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMm1u-0002KX-AJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:36:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMm1u-0002KO-7n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:36:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMlzz-0005rt-7s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:34:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMlzy-0005rk-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:34:22 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMmar-0008CM-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:12:30 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-54.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.54]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA29135 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:34:25 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c5c8df$f1f98150$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:33:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Beginning about 1045Z hr in Maryland here is the Argo capture of what is probably ZM2E QSO activity. www.geocities.com/lacwman/zm2e.jpg Hr using the Wellbrook ALA100 loop and the TS870 running Argo at QRSS60 de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMjJl-0005Vr-UI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMjJl-0005VU-Fw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMjJ6-0005Pl-8K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:41:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMjJ5-0005Pc-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:41:55 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMjtt-00073b-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:20:00 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:41:00 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4H446PJM>; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:41:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:56:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: RE: LF: Re: Advice (again) please - Driving FETs Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi David,
 
Many thanks for the response.
How much do you want for 3 of each of the 42mm and 58mm, including postage ?
 
73 Chris G3XIZ
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 03 October 2005 05:59:PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Advice (again) please - Driving FETs

In a message dated 03/10/2005 10:51:36 GMT Standard Time, actalbot@southsurf.com writes:
in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns.
> These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in
>his LFEH article).
>
> Has anyone a spare 3C85 toroid suitable for a PA stage which they
>would sell to me ?
Hello Chris.
 
I have 12mm   25mm  42mm and  58mm   mostly in 3C90 material which is the replacement for the older 3C85
 
Regards
 
David
 
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:40 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMjJn-00011L-Gj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMjJn-0000zh-7W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMjJN-0005Py-Bz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMjJM-0005Pp-Hl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:42:12 +0100 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au ([203.10.110.76] helo=mail.netspace.net.au) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMjuB-00073m-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:20:17 +0100 Received: from fred1 (220-253-132-85.TAS.netspace.net.au [220.253.132.85]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id B905C12EAA4 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:41:59 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20051004204202.0089edb0@pop.netspace.net.au> X-Sender: vk7ro@pop.netspace.net.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:42:02 +1100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Richard Rogers In-Reply-To: <000001c5c7f2$322a1940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) G'day all, I saw a trace on 137.7876KHz (+/- .5Hz?) from about 0820z to 0840z on 4 Oct 05. Active vertical, suburbia Hobart, sunset 0819z. At 09:08 PM 10/3/05 +1300, you wrote: > Hi all, sunset and sunrise sequence is as follows: and the >path becomes dark to VA7LF 1417 UTC VA7LF sunrise, so nearly 8 hours of >dark path to ZL (path is mostly north/south) 1453 UTC RU6LA sunset and >the path becomes darl to ZL 1754 UTC ZL sunrise, so only 3 hours of dark > path with RU6LA (path is mostly east/west) This means that > third party monitoring could see what they get from any or all >particpants, and as a compromise it may be best to set 60 second dot >length as that is more likely to be the QSO attempt rate than 120 seconds >(the sun comes up too soon!). 73, Bob ZL2CA 73, Ric, VK7RO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:46:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMcoj-0000h1-Gr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:46:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMcoj-0000gu-7O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:46:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMcob-0004i2-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:46:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMcoa-0004ht-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:46:00 +0100 Received: from bay5-dav7.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.172.111] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMddW-0003aU-S0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:38:42 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:45:49 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.224.65.75 by BAY5-DAV7.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 02:45:48 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.224.65.75] X-Originating-Email: [we0h1@msn.com] X-Sender: we0h1@msn.com From: "MIKE REID" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <434158C0.1010101@att.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:45:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:45:48 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2005 02:45:49.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA539170:01C5C88D] Subject: LF: Re: WD2XKO Page now online Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060701000303040900020006" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060701000303040900020006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hey Dex,
 
How small is that vertical?Open-mouthed smiley emoticon
 
MikeHot smiley emoticon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: LF: WD2XKO Page now online

A web page with info on WD2XKO is now available at:

http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm

Please advise of any correction, additions or improvements that should
be made.

73,
Dex

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Rx system will be able to run mulitple windows with Argo and WOLF - Ill be looking at the American window 137.775-137.7815 as a minimum and open to other windows/modes in the 136-138 Khz window - please email me direct anything you want me to look out for. The receiving site will probably be unmanned overnight as Ill be busy teaching the locals. During this time WD2XDW will be off (probably) Laurence From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:28:08 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMYn2-00025C-2K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:28:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMYn1-00024D-Qo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:28:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMYmg-0004F3-NK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:27:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMYmf-0004Eu-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:27:45 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.118] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMZNI-00031G-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:05:39 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005100322273401500b7pmoe>; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:27:34 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c5c86b$13ad2f60$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> <000001c5c7f2$322a1940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> <001901c5c80f$8ce35320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001601c5c849$d2b6a480$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:37:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Bob
 
Thanks anyway...GL on the tests!
 
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: Vernall
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations

Jay,

No beaconing as such is scheduled by ZM2E.  We are concentrating on two-way
contacts.  However, as all participating stations will use the same nominal
frequency, you can see what you get as the night rolls on even though you
would not know in advance as to the sequence.

73, Bob ZL2CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:42 AM
Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations


> Bob, Steve, Martin, Scott, Ed
>
> If possible, any spare time that could be filled with "beacon" operation
> would be greatly appreciated. East coast USA sunset 2230Z and sunrise
> 1050Z.
>
> Thanks in advance for any transmissions.
>
> Jay, W1VD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vernall" <vernall@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:08 AM
> Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> ZM2E at Quartz Hill should be ready by sunset Tuesday 4 October to begin
> QSO attempts with VA7LF and then RU6LA later in the night.  The sunset
> and sunrise sequence is as follows:
>  0626 UTC ZL sunset and the path becomes dark to VA7LF
>  1417 UTC VA7LF sunrise, so nearly 8 hours of dark path to ZL (path is
> mostly north/south)
>  1453 UTC RU6LA sunset and the path becomes darl to ZL
>  1754 UTC ZL sunrise, so only 3 hours of dark path with RU6LA (path is
> mostly east/west)
>
> So there is time for a coffee break at ZM2E between each dark path.
> Three successive nights are arranged so we can "try again" the next
> night.  The participants are agreed that they will not consider "carry
> over" from a previous night, and any successful QSO will need to be
> started and completed in the one night.
>
> ZM2E will be using 137.7890/137.7886 kHz FSK and with dot length
> selected at the time.  VA7LF will use very similar frequencies and FSK.
> RU6LA (and possibly a special call sign) may use either QRSS or FSK but
> will be similar to ZM2E frequency.  This means that third party
> monitoring could see what they get from any or all particpants, and as a
> compromise it may be best to set 60 second dot length as that is more
> likely to be the QSO attempt rate than 120 seconds (the sun comes up too
> soon!).
>
> 73, Bob ZL2CA
>
>
>
>


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMYWH-0004Aj-6g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMYWH-0004AT-2O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMYVp-00049W-SD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:10:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMYVp-00049N-5y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:10:21 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMZ6S-0002ue-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:48:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 35323 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2005 22:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.204.207 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 22:10:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c5c867$3f480b80$cfcc8351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051003181417.2795.qmail@web25415.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:10:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: Re: LF: Advice (again) please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Brian, congratulations you have discovered Class-E. It is possible to "mis-tune" the aerial so that the correct reactance is reflected back to the PA to satisfy the conditions for Class-E. Finbar EI0CF's early single ended PA ( LF Sourcebook ) stumbled on this and since my initial experiements, I have found a book by Fritz Raab that enumerates several different configurations of "switching" PA, that may be "tuned into Class E" The salient point is the shape of the drain waveform. The "switch" must switch on with no voltage across it, and must switch off with no current flowing through it. These are the conditions equating to minimum efficiency loss. The Nat Sokal QST article cover the conditions for single ended stages. I think Fritz collaborated with Nat at one stage, and I believe a lot of the ideas he produced are used in mobile phone PAs. The condition may not lead to maximum "smoke" for a particular supply voltage, but the PA will run cooler. In a class E stage the output circuit usually finishes up being tuned around 10% low ...I think this means that it offers the PA a slightly inductive load. I have an electronic copy of Nat's QST article if you have not seen it (with the errors in the original article corrected !) I also desined a step-up L-Pi network ( circuit on my web site ) and found I could get the same effect by tuning the output cap of that....that had to be by switcing caps though as I used iron dust toroids for the coils, though the values could be realised with air cored coils allowing a slight adjustment my just offering a ferrite to the end. I think the trick may be to avoid inserting the ferrite too deeply into the coil when losses may escalate. I dont know whether they still have any but Mainline Surplus (web site ) had some ferrite rods about 1inch in diameter and 7 inches long. These had slots moulded in and it was suggested that these were to reduce eddy currents when tuning (RF) dielectric heaters. If so these might be quite good in this service. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian hodgson" To: Sent: 03 October 2005 19:14 Subject: Re: LF: Advice (again) please > Hi Chris - > > I've been dabbling with some PA circuits recently - the usual hard switching, push-pull fets and transformer output follwed by a pi (C-L-C) Lowpass filter. > > One trick I did discover was that by increasing the inductance of the low pass filter (using the tried and tested technique of poking a large ferrite rod inside the coil) from 120 to 185 microhenries the voltage waveform on the drains became a lot smoother - more like class E - and the overall efficiency went up to better than 90% (over 200 watts out for 220 watts input). > > Adjustment was quite sharp but not "critical". Watching the drain waveform voltage on the scope was the best way to tweak but just tuning for minimum supply current seemed almost as good. > > Brian > > "OSBORN, Chris" wrote: > I'm generating 100 watts into my 50 ohm dummy load but > only getting an efficiency of about 50%. > The output transformer toroidal core is getting quite hot and I > suspect that it's permeability is too low as the capacitance > required > to bring it to resonance is far higher than those of published > designs > in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns. > These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in > his LFEH article). > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:03:04 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMXSh-0002qz-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:03:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMXSg-0002q8-Nj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:03:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMXTR-00040m-4V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:03:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMXTQ-00040d-Oc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:03:48 +0100 Received: from mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.118]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMY43-0002ak-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:41:41 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051003210333.QGZU2946.mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:03:33 +1300 Received: from quaycustomer ([210.86.117.95]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051003210333.LQRJ1606.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:03:33 +1300 Message-ID: <004f01c5c860$24f85fc0$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <31739200.1128336086827.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:12:45 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Laurie,
 
OK, once we have "dropped out" with Ed we will set the transmitter to ZM2E ZM2E .... beacon mode while we have a sleep.
 
73, Bob
----- Original Message -----
To: RSGB
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:41 PM
Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations

Hi Bob,

Would it be possible for you to continue with some transmission a little beyond your sunrise, to say 18:15

this would give us in the UK a chance of seeing you.

Best of luck with your aspirations, awaiting outcome with baited breath.

73 to all,  Laurie. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:39:52 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMVE7-000246-7D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:39:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMVE7-00023b-38 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:39:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMVDu-0003md-NP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:39:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMVDu-0003mU-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:39:38 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMVoU-0001Qk-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:17:28 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051003183927.QIQF1498.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:39:27 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.117.95]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051003183927.KZCU5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:39:27 +1300 Message-ID: <001601c5c849$d2b6a480$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> <000001c5c7f2$322a1940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> <001901c5c80f$8ce35320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:38:12 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jay, No beaconing as such is scheduled by ZM2E. We are concentrating on two-way contacts. However, as all participating stations will use the same nominal frequency, you can see what you get as the night rolls on even though you would not know in advance as to the sequence. 73, Bob ZL2CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:42 AM Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations > Bob, Steve, Martin, Scott, Ed > > If possible, any spare time that could be filled with "beacon" operation > would be greatly appreciated. East coast USA sunset 2230Z and sunrise > 1050Z. > > Thanks in advance for any transmissions. > > Jay, W1VD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vernall" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:08 AM > Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations > > > Hi all, > > ZM2E at Quartz Hill should be ready by sunset Tuesday 4 October to begin > QSO attempts with VA7LF and then RU6LA later in the night. The sunset > and sunrise sequence is as follows: > 0626 UTC ZL sunset and the path becomes dark to VA7LF > 1417 UTC VA7LF sunrise, so nearly 8 hours of dark path to ZL (path is > mostly north/south) > 1453 UTC RU6LA sunset and the path becomes darl to ZL > 1754 UTC ZL sunrise, so only 3 hours of dark path with RU6LA (path is > mostly east/west) > > So there is time for a coffee break at ZM2E between each dark path. > Three successive nights are arranged so we can "try again" the next > night. The participants are agreed that they will not consider "carry > over" from a previous night, and any successful QSO will need to be > started and completed in the one night. > > ZM2E will be using 137.7890/137.7886 kHz FSK and with dot length > selected at the time. VA7LF will use very similar frequencies and FSK. > RU6LA (and possibly a special call sign) may use either QRSS or FSK but > will be similar to ZM2E frequency. This means that third party > monitoring could see what they get from any or all particpants, and as a > compromise it may be best to set 60 second dot length as that is more > likely to be the QSO attempt rate than 120 seconds (the sun comes up too > soon!). > > 73, Bob ZL2CA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUpg-0000Xq-9c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUpg-0000XQ-2q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUpV-0003fS-OE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUpV-0003fJ-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:25 +0100 Received: from web25415.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.176.233]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMVQ5-0001Ew-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:52:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 2797 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2005 18:14:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LGDcqHg1691TWJygSRA6iw8TMIBofPMjCpSaxJ0EMkLKb6qtOzTiQxGvI0XsQd9j9YVLMj2SM5lCb9DyfMDVBZ9Ywt86D3165Ac1ZW34DlnnKAe6R6Vl+U9WWRf8Pq36hlb33TS7rKK+vcgdy3Jx1JhD+WaFG2q3fXzcb7S4ong= ; Message-ID: <20051003181417.2795.qmail@web25415.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25415.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:17 BST Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:14:17 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Advice (again) please Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Hi Chris -
 
I've been dabbling with some PA circuits recently - the usual hard switching, push-pull fets and transformer output follwed by a pi (C-L-C) Lowpass filter.
 
One trick I did discover was that by increasing the inductance of the low pass filter (using the tried and tested technique of  poking a large ferrite rod inside the coil) from 120 to 185 microhenries the voltage waveform on the drains became a lot smoother - more like class E - and the overall efficiency went up to better than 90% (over 200 watts out for 220 watts input).
 
Adjustment was quite sharp but not "critical". Watching the drain waveform voltage on the scope was the best way to tweak but just tuning for minimum supply current seemed almost as good.
 
Brian
  
"OSBORN, Chris" <Chris.OSBORN@astrium.eads.net> wrote:
I'm generating 100 watts into my 50 ohm dummy load but
only getting an efficiency of about 50%.
The output transformer toroidal core is getting quite hot and I
suspect that it's permeability is too low as the capacitance
required
to bring it to resonance is far higher than those of published
designs
in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns.
These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in
his LFEH article).

Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:07:49 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUj6-0001h9-GT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:07:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUj5-0001gW-Ux for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:07:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUiu-0003aF-Ua for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:07:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUiu-0003a6-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:07:36 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMVJT-0001Bb-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:45:26 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMUiq-0007aJ-02; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:07:32 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (T-GjgwZOYeRvGbji3i65GCdjIyqW2+ZHxEoxtNfHuFswy1nBTCfvUH@[217.245.116.34]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EMUiZ-14qoBE0; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:07:15 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:07:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1718828482.20051003195327@t-online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: T-GjgwZOYeRvGbji3i65GCdjIyqW2+ZHxEoxtNfHuFswy1nBTCfvUH X-TOI-MSGID: 5a28555e-4e88-4ffa-9216-1572855a8db0 Subject: AW: LF: ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Hartmut, thanks a lot for info! Very fine, he has a good signal here! With audio too! abt 319!!!!! 73' tom gn all -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Im Auftrag von Hartmut Wolff Gesendet: Montag, 3. Oktober 2005 19:53 An: Thomas Eckart Betreff: Re: LF: ???? Hi Tom, > who is it? A 16:30h utc their was a part of cw " D R 6 L " in qrss120 > Any one now this? RU6LA is on 137.778 txing in QRSS120 sending "R6L" since 15:30 utc. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:54:59 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUWg-0002Bk-9h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:54:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMUWg-0002BS-4X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:54:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUW5-0003UQ-43 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:54:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMUW4-0003UH-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:54:20 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMVKq-0000xY-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:46:51 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMUW0-0007jS-00; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:54:16 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TcESPYZpgeVuBrAl7lhrT7uSz-meqLoxfCSwUAXGjUCtemK9aejUZu@[84.133.95.158]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EMUVi-1LCwYC0; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:53:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:53:27 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1718828482.20051003195327@t-online.de> To: Thomas Eckart In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TcESPYZpgeVuBrAl7lhrT7uSz-meqLoxfCSwUAXGjUCtemK9aejUZu X-TOI-MSGID: 0ddaf6bb-c076-40dd-8980-294926592971 Subject: Re: LF: ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom, > who is it? A 16:30h utc their was a part of cw " D R 6 L " in qrss120 > Any one now this? RU6LA is on 137.778 txing in QRSS120 sending "R6L" since 15:30 utc. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:59:44 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMTf9-0000aM-VL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:59:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMTf9-0000a5-Qt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:59:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMTeN-0003ME-OZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:58:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMTeN-0003M5-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:58:51 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMUEt-0000hI-87 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:36:39 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.78.7cbcd38d (4262) for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:58:38 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <78.7cbcd38d.3072bd3e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:58:38 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Advice (again) please - Driving FETs Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
In a message dated 03/10/2005 10:51:36 GMT Standard Time, actalbot@southsurf.com writes:
in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns.
> These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in
>his LFEH article).
>
> Has anyone a spare 3C85 toroid suitable for a PA stage which they
>would sell to me ?
Hello Chris.
 
I have 12mm   25mm  42mm and  58mm   mostly in 3C90 material which is the replacement for the older 3C85
 
Regards
 
David
 
www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/kits.htm
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:54:15 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMTZt-0002Lk-Tj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:54:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMTZt-0002Lc-Qj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:54:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMTYP-0003HI-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:52:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMTYO-0003H9-WA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:52:41 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMUNA-0000ht-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:45:10 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMTYJ-0001t2-00; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:52:35 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (ZY7s6MZHYe3TXNu0IERUddo5HQMgb8qgqWWkmzZELMFjl9QL0zHokX@[217.245.119.177]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EMTYE-0tnHFo0; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:52:30 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:52:28 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001901c5c80f$8ce35320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: ZY7s6MZHYe3TXNu0IERUddo5HQMgb8qgqWWkmzZELMFjl9QL0zHokX X-TOI-MSGID: 228b5a33-4d6b-4516-b336-ed8a7a1a6d62 Subject: LF: ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) hi lf group, who is it? A 16:30h utc their was a part of cw " D R 6 L " in qrss120 Any one now this? 73' Tom From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMSzF-0005Z8-6i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMSzF-0005Yw-3Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:16:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMSwm-0003A0-F1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:13:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMSwl-00039r-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:13:47 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMTlV-0000Vd-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:06:16 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005100316133711100e5ch2e>; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:13:37 +0000 Message-ID: <434158C0.1010101@att.net> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:13:52 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LowFer LWCA , RSGB LF Subject: LF: WD2XKO Page now online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) A web page with info on WD2XKO is now available at: http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm Please advise of any correction, additions or improvements that should be made. 73, Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:43:23 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMOj4-0006xu-5F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:43:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMOj3-0006xZ-PX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:43:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMOiW-0002jP-Cf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:42:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMOiV-0002jG-LQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:42:47 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMPX8-0007jh-RP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:35:10 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005100311423101400b2agge>; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:42:36 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c5c80f$8ce35320$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> <000001c5c7f2$322a1940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 07:42:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Bob, Steve, Martin, Scott, Ed If possible, any spare time that could be filled with "beacon" operation would be greatly appreciated. East coast USA sunset 2230Z and sunrise 1050Z. Thanks in advance for any transmissions. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernall" To: Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:08 AM Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Hi all, ZM2E at Quartz Hill should be ready by sunset Tuesday 4 October to begin QSO attempts with VA7LF and then RU6LA later in the night. The sunset and sunrise sequence is as follows: 0626 UTC ZL sunset and the path becomes dark to VA7LF 1417 UTC VA7LF sunrise, so nearly 8 hours of dark path to ZL (path is mostly north/south) 1453 UTC RU6LA sunset and the path becomes darl to ZL 1754 UTC ZL sunrise, so only 3 hours of dark path with RU6LA (path is mostly east/west) So there is time for a coffee break at ZM2E between each dark path. Three successive nights are arranged so we can "try again" the next night. The participants are agreed that they will not consider "carry over" from a previous night, and any successful QSO will need to be started and completed in the one night. ZM2E will be using 137.7890/137.7886 kHz FSK and with dot length selected at the time. VA7LF will use very similar frequencies and FSK. RU6LA (and possibly a special call sign) may use either QRSS or FSK but will be similar to ZM2E frequency. This means that third party monitoring could see what they get from any or all particpants, and as a compromise it may be best to set 60 second dot length as that is more likely to be the QSO attempt rate than 120 seconds (the sun comes up too soon!). 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:51:29 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNun-0006LU-6E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:51:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNum-0006LL-Qb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:51:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNuf-0002ZP-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:51:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNue-0002ZG-MG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:51:16 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMOjI-0007Ww-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:43:38 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.6]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j93Ap0o4007563 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:51:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001a01c5c807$f39aec70$068cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:48:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Re: Advice (again) please - Driving FETs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; Unknown failure Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) If you drive FETs directly from a driver IC, when the FET blows up the gate shorts to the high voltage, which feeds back and blows all your driver circuitry too. I learned that the hard way when designing a SMPSU some years ago. It used a high / low side driver chip (HiP2500 500V Half-bridge driver) with a boot strapping arrangement that raised the mean level of drive waveform for the upper device. When the arrangement popped (due to overload) two cheap and cheerful surplus FETs got destroyed, along with the exotic and expensive driver, and the SMPSU controller chips. Both of which cost as much as about 10 of the mosfets. After this had happened twice, I changed to a pair of pulse transformers straight from the SG3525 SMPSU chip which has the same sort of totem-pole output drive as the TC4425/6/7 family, and all was fine after that. Certainly will never use direct FET drive in experimental high power designs again. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: OSBORN, Chris To: LF Group (E-mail) Date: 2005/10/03 11:14 Subject: LF: Advice (again) please > > > > I'm still beavering away on my new TX and now have stopped blowing >up the > PA devices (fingers crossed). > I've incorporated some of the suggestions gratefully received:- > - Higher voltage FETs - IRF630's > - gate resistors to prevent vhf oscillation > > I have also changed from transformer drive to using a 4426 driver >IC. > > I'm generating 100 watts into my 50 ohm dummy load but > only getting an efficiency of about 50%. > The output transformer toroidal core is getting quite hot and I > suspect that it's permeability is too low as the capacitance >required > to bring it to resonance is far higher than those of published >designs > in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns. > These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in >his LFEH article). > > Has anyone a spare 3C85 toroid suitable for a PA stage which they >would sell to me ? > > Alternatively I've looked in the RS catalogue but am not sure what >is a suitable type. > They quote a parameter 'AL' ( example 3225 nH) > > From my old college days I remember uo and ur but what is 'AL' ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > >This email is for the intended addressee only. >If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. >Please notify the sender by return email. >The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. >Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. > >EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 >Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:41:51 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNlV-00036l-IF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:41:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNlV-00035E-DB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:41:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNlG-0002TY-7d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:41:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNlF-0002TP-RK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:41:33 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMOZu-0007Tk-9j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:33:55 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3007.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D82A01C00088 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:41:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3003 (wwinf3003 [172.22.159.30]) by mwinf3007.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CCD9C1C00084 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:41:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20051003104126839.CCD9C1C00084@mwinf3007.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <31739200.1128336086827.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.75.71] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:41:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi Bob,

Would it be possible for you to continue with some transmission a little beyond your sunrise, to say 18:15

this would give us in the UK a chance of seeing you.

Best of luck with your aspirations, awaiting outcome with baited breath.

73 to all,  Laurie. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:08:51 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNFZ-0006Tq-Oh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:08:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMNFZ-0006Th-LF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:08:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNF4-0002Lm-Je for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:08:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMNF4-0002Ld-63 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:08:18 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMNpU-0006wu-RJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:45:59 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:07:57 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FT3RK05>; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:08:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:08:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: Advice (again) please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I'm still beavering away on my new TX and now have stopped blowing up the PA devices (fingers crossed). I've incorporated some of the suggestions gratefully received:- - Higher voltage FETs - IRF630's - gate resistors to prevent vhf oscillation I have also changed from transformer drive to using a 4426 driver IC. I'm generating 100 watts into my 50 ohm dummy load but only getting an efficiency of about 50%. The output transformer toroidal core is getting quite hot and I suspect that it's permeability is too low as the capacitance required to bring it to resonance is far higher than those of published designs in the LF Experimenter's handbook, using the same number of turns. These capacitors are running very hot too (as mentioned by PA0SE in his LFEH article). Has anyone a spare 3C85 toroid suitable for a PA stage which they would sell to me ? Alternatively I've looked in the RS catalogue but am not sure what is a suitable type. They quote a parameter 'AL' ( example 3225 nH) From my old college days I remember uo and ur but what is 'AL' ? 73 Chris G3XIZ This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:39:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMLrE-0003J6-Dq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:39:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMLrE-0003Ix-BN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:39:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMLr6-00028X-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:39:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMLr6-00028O-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:39:28 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMMfh-000755-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:31:47 +0100 Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EMLr3-0004xV-00; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:39:25 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rXRIAYZZgepCe0qcGlLYzp6QmVgVO96EuMrOwp1gK-JMAslNCYPuoI@[84.133.85.188]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EMLqr-1ot7q40; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:39:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:37:16 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <57564849.20051003103716@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rXRIAYZZgepCe0qcGlLYzp6QmVgVO96EuMrOwp1gK-JMAslNCYPuoI X-TOI-MSGID: 55886c02-d19b-468e-94cf-df532d4a0571 Subject: LF: TA Oct, 2/3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) 4 trans-Atlantic signals copied last night: VO1NA sending "NA" in QRSS120 mode copied 0420-0540UTC. Strong signals from WD2XES and WD2XGJ 0400-0500UTC. The signal from WD2XKO was visible 0350-0620UTC with some fading. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:14:42 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMLT7-0005lX-IS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:14:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMLT7-0005lP-EA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:14:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMLRD-00021d-Py for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:12:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMLRD-00021U-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:12:43 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMM1c-0006R7-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:50:23 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.193]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20051003081231.XHQX10208.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:12:31 +1300 Received: from IBMF7542B482FC ([210.86.117.95]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20051003081231.IMYP1606.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@IBMF7542B482FC> for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:12:31 +1300 Message-ID: <000001c5c7f2$322a1940$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:08:30 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX aspirations Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Hi all,
 
ZM2E at Quartz Hill should be ready by sunset Tuesday 4 October to begin QSO attempts with VA7LF and then RU6LA later in the night.  The sunset and sunrise sequence is as follows:
  0626 UTC ZL sunset and the path becomes dark to VA7LF
  1417 UTC VA7LF sunrise, so nearly 8 hours of dark path to ZL (path is mostly north/south)
  1453 UTC RU6LA sunset and the path becomes darl to ZL
  1754 UTC ZL sunrise, so only 3 hours of dark path with RU6LA (path is mostly east/west)
 
So there is time for a coffee break at ZM2E between each dark path.  Three successive nights are arranged so we can "try again" the next night.  The participants are agreed that they will not consider "carry over" from a previous night, and any successful QSO will need to be started and completed in the one night. 
 
ZM2E will be using 137.7890/137.7886 kHz FSK and with dot length selected at the time.  VA7LF will use very similar frequencies and FSK.  RU6LA (and possibly a special call sign) may use either QRSS or FSK but will be similar to ZM2E frequency.  This means that third party monitoring could see what they get from any or all particpants, and as a compromise it may be best to set 60 second dot length as that is more likely to be the QSO attempt rate than 120 seconds (the sun comes up too soon!).
 
73, Bob ZL2CA
 
 
   
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:02 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMHPp-0004OE-Qh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMHPp-0004Lq-Kd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:55:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMHPK-0001nP-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:54:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMHPJ-0001nG-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:54:29 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMHzf-0005VW-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:32:05 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (unknown [204.244.17.92]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C66A5B8AB8; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000501c5c7cf$555dde60$5c11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:02:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: VA7LF Testing ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The top-loaded 100' vertical antenna is up, along with the radials in the ocean and we will be testing the system tonight. Any reports welcome!! Frequency 137.778 QRSS 30 Ident is "LF" This is not the frequency that will be in use during the upcoming ZL-TP tests starting on Monday night. Power out at present is 400W which will be doubled for the tests. Steve VE7SL Martin VE7MM / G4EZG Scott VE7TIL South Pender Island / Tilley Point CN88 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:00:17 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMBsV-0004vV-Pg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:00:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMBsV-0004vO-Lo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:00:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMBrV-0001RV-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:59:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMBrU-0001RM-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:59:12 +0100 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMCRg-0003hu-U0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:36:42 +0100 Received: from [87.82.27.134] (helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1EMBrN-0001cE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:59:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c5c79d$e7191220$861b5257@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20051002183733.34273.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:38:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Solution looking for a problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I have a Muirhead D-728 Impedance and Angle meter that I am disposing of. It covers a frequency range of 20Hz to 100kHz but can be used to 300kHz depending on the phase angle of the reactance to be measured. I will be visiting the HF convention on Sunday Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAfe-00019l-My for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAfe-00019U-Iv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAfU-0001Et-Kv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAfU-0001Ej-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:44 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMBTr-0004dR-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:34:48 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.13e.1cc1dbe8 (16781) for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <13e.1cc1dbe8.3071a031@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:42:25 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 Subject: Re: LF: Out off topics: Candlelight pre-test Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Tom,

nil, absolutely nothing here on 1919.2 kHz, at only 50 km from you! Tried a few times, both day and night. Same result at the QTH of Walter, DJ2LF when he looked yesterday. Too far for groundwave, too steep for skywave?? Can't make much sense out of it.

73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAfA-000254-UT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAf8-00024e-KV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:42:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAed-0001Df-2L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:41:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAec-0001DW-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:41:50 +0100 Received: from web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMBEs-0003MT-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:19:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 54536 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2005 20:41:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bRu56WclMfvCjlgglFgI5OO1Mo8QxzHGC00JzGm3zRUe/O+De6qLG071szXXxlQljLzwz20ry7RahrDiNvPzO4iwqw7x93APY5apqnh+JJr88ngXRB7DNjEuS3KS4+Jn9AovAvjO0xmAQ5HC1lAxt6aaG7+kU8wz7pSltmBeYRk= ; Message-ID: <20051002204144.54534.qmail@web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:41:44 BST Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:41:44 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Sunday activity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Hi Wolf -
 
Many many thanks for the QSO - my best LF dx so far - in fact my first LF contact outside of the UK !!
 
Regards
 
Brian

Also very pleased to work G3YKB in QRSS3, though I missed a part of your last over because the signal was very close to one of those dreadful Loran lines. But well done Brian !

 

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Photos From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:29:03 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMASB-0007lP-RJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:29:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMASB-0007lF-O8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:28:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMARW-00017R-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:28:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMARV-00017I-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:28:17 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMB1k-0003EX-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:05:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 82093 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2005 20:28:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.118.156 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2005 20:28:09 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c5c78f$bda539e0$9c767ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43402C0D.10007@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:19:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: SPM-31 on ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Stewart I will bring and SPM-12, 25Hz filter, and "synchroniser", with demodulator unit.... down to HFC if you are interested but I want a tad more than a fiver for it !! :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Bryant" To: Sent: 02 October 2005 19:50 Subject: LF: SPM-31 on ebay > SPM-31 currently at £1.00 on ebay. > > Local pickup only (from Leeds) otherwise I would bid. > > 73 Stewart G3YSX > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wandel-Golterman-SPM-31-LEVELMETER-level-metre_W0QQite mZ7549666406QQcategoryZ40004QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:15:06 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAEj-0002kq-N2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:15:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EMAEj-0002kS-IU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:15:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAEH-00011b-Av for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:14:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EMAEG-00011S-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:14:36 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EMB2c-0004To-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:06:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 94117 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2005 20:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.118.156 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2005 20:14:29 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c5c78d$d499e9e0$9c767ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200510022026.46923.oe5eep@aon.at> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:13:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz activity from OE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Heinz, try to run a pair of top wires in each direction if you can manage it separated by at least 0.7m. They only need to be thick enough to support their weight. Keep them as high as possible and if they need to slope make it as shallow as possible. This should get the capacitance up above 1000pF and make loading it a lot easier. It will also reduce your ground losses. Increasing your ERP considerably. I look forward to hearing OE again it has been a longtime since I heard it last. Do look out for the demo station at the RSGB HF Convention which will probably be active late Friday and Saturday and early Sunday (Thanks to Derek and the friends) Regards de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heinz Schnait" To: Sent: 02 October 2005 19:26 Subject: LF: 136kHz activity from OE > Hi everybody > > Our local radio club will hold its annual fieldday on Saturday, October 8. > This years main activity will be an activation of 136kHz. The operating > site is a cottage out in the country. There is electricity but no > telephone or internet. > > We have two transmitters with spare FET's available (G3YXM designs). > Receiving equipment will include various bandpass filters, preamplifiers, > a converter and commercial transceivers. The landscape at the operating > site is mainly meadows (pasture for cattle) with plenty of old trees > around. We plan to build a toploaded Marconi antenna. A vertical section > of 15 - 20m and 100 - 200m in two opposite directions should be possible. > We have a loading coil wound on a rain barrel and test equipment for > resonating the antenna. > > We will start at about 0700UTC and operate until the evening hours. The > fieldday activity is centered on this one day, but as long as the antenna > stays up we might continue working longwave during the week and the > following weekends. It certainly will not be a permanent installation. > Callsigns on the air will include OE5EEP, OE5ODL, OE5PGL, OE5MW and > possibly some others. > > One requirement is try weather. If we have to postpone, I will post it > here. > > 73 Heinz, OE5EEP > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:51:22 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8vh-0001cA-Mu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:51:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8vh-0001by-Je for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:51:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8vK-0000rU-Pv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:50:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8vK-0000rL-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:50:58 +0100 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EM9jc-00048S-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:42:59 +0100 Received: from [82.68.48.134] (helo=g3ysx.org.uk) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EM8vG-0001xo-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:50:54 +0000 Message-ID: <43402C0D.10007@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:50:53 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.48.134] Subject: LF: SPM-31 on ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SPM-31 currently at £1.00 on ebay. Local pickup only (from Leeds) otherwise I would bid. 73 Stewart G3YSX http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wandel-Golterman-SPM-31-LEVELMETER-level-metre_W0QQitemZ7549666406QQcategoryZ40004QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:51 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8iZ-0005J9-Uy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8iZ-0005Is-JV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8iT-0000mB-2U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8iS-0000m2-FH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:40 +0100 Received: from web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EM9If-0001zT-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:15:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 34275 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2005 18:37:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HuaOCmjU8O02/WPRkwMk32q1fH4+9iA2Tm5hodTkagYWmxSpl7X+7/vrK407i7u5okZz/+vE4XI7Vv3OJxSWvdhXD3HyoDiq3wUeh48OUZ8FjoF4PlUiJUWWJny6FDm/m6ju+Am05mB3Qq1KeFZsQE/ehJAoNCWoEsZqs8bd4G4= ; Message-ID: <20051002183733.34273.qmail@web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [86.132.251.250] by web86501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:37:33 BST Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 19:37:33 +0100 (BST) From: LECH LASZKIEWICZ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00c001c5c562$6c94b8c0$e7202c52@derekm3uttnxf9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF AMPS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
 
Mal,
I second Derek Atter's comments. My Decca transmitter run for 2 years without any malfunctions in normal CW and QRSS modes. It survived working with accidentally disconnected antenna at 1Kw power level and a melted and shorted coax did no harm. My store of spare fets is undiminshed.
de  Lech, G3KAU  

DEREK ATTER <derek.atter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Mal,
I am glad to say that your comment regarding experience of frequent failures of FETs in the 1Kw Decca 5501 amplifiers in use on the LF bands (including 73Khz) is as ever, a load of codswollop!
  
 In all the years they have been used since they became available for use on the Ham bands, I have only ever had heard one report of FETs been blown. and that is despite plenty of instances of short circuits and open circuits etc.being reported on the antenna output. at full power. They have proved to be almost bomb-proof.and that includes long periods of QRSS at 10sec dots at which duty cycle they barely get warm!  They were after all designed to operate at continuous carrier ioutput n the Racal-Decca Navigator system.
 
   At least 15 of the amplifiers went through our hands at the Crawley Amateur Radio Club to various destinations including EU and North America and we still carry a quantity of spare FETs but have only ever had one request for replacements.
 
73,
Derek Atter  G3GRO 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: LF: LF AMPS

For trouble free and rugged amplifiers on LF a tube is the only reliable approach. The type of antennas used by the majority of LF radio amateurs are totally unreliable, poor insulators, antenna moving around in the wind, variations in wx dry or wet and other considerations. These conditions cause considerable variations in antenna impedance, resulting in sudden mis matches, high swr etc and except you have a high degree of protection the FETS will not survive. Tubes also suffer but seldom are destroyed.
Those using the rugged Decca Jeep fet amps (5501 amps) also suffer the same fate. The majority of users have blown the fets.
Using fet amps into a dummy load is a totally different story, no variations in load and total reliability, but connecting to the average amateur LF antenna will produce loud bangs and smoke.
Using QRS especially above 3 sec dots duration is just waiting for a disaster to happen!! 60 or 120 sec dot duration is a killer for prolonged QSO'S
Go for a tube but watch those very high anode voltages like 3k. YOU could expire prematurely.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
  

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:24:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8VY-0007H8-QR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:24:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM8VY-0007Gg-Kj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:24:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8VL-0000gi-Ou for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:24:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EM8VL-0000gZ-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:24:07 +0100 Received: from smtpout.a1.net ([194.48.124.21] helo=uxmtat04-real.net.mobilkom.at) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EM95Y-0001uQ-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:01:34 +0100 Received: from PC2-LINUX.aon.at ([88.116.16.222]) by smtpout1.a1.net (A1.net ORGANIZER - Alle Emails und Termine fest im Griff) with ESMTPA id <0INQ002QNWFXEC10@smtpout1.a1.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:23:58 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:26:46 +0200 From: Heinz Schnait To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <200510022026.46923.oe5eep@aon.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 Subject: LF: 136kHz activity from OE Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi everybody Our local radio club will hold its annual fieldday on Saturday, October 8. This years main activity will be an activation of 136kHz. The operating site is a cottage out in the country. There is electricity but no telephone or internet. We have two transmitters with spare FET's available (G3YXM designs). Receiving equipment will include various bandpass filters, preamplifiers, a converter and commercial transceivers. The landscape at the operating site is mainly meadows (pasture for cattle) with plenty of old trees around. We plan to build a toploaded Marconi antenna. A vertical section of 15 - 20m and 100 - 200m in two opposite directions should be possible. We have a loading coil wound on a rain barrel and test equipment for resonating the antenna. We will start at about 0700UTC and operate until the evening hours. The fieldday activity is centered on this one day, but as long as the antenna stays up we might continue working longwave during the week and the following weekends. It certainly will not be a permanent installation. Callsigns on the air will include OE5EEP, OE5ODL, OE5PGL, OE5MW and possibly some others. One requirement is try weather. If we have to postpone, I will post it here. 73 Heinz, OE5EEP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:49:39 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM7xx-0000E3-Lz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:49:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM7xx-0000Bo-FH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:49:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EM7wx-0000YB-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:48:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EM7wx-0000Y2-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:48:35 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EM8lE-0003yf-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:40:35 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 ([84.12.67.247]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j92HmOAp019162 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c5c779$7c375b20$2201a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:48:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Sri, freq should be 1919.2 of course.  Over-excited I guess!
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:43:00 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM7rY-0002EQ-6z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:43:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EM7rY-0002E6-0G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:43:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EM7qn-0000UB-TC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:42:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EM7qm-0000U2-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:42:12 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EM8Qw-0001f8-PC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:19:38 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 ([84.12.67.247]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j92Hg0cU017706 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:42:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c5c778$97b76a30$2201a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c5c5ee$618bd710$9ef306d5@kc61d0682c4d14> <001f01c5c734$9a7ae7e0$4bd33dd5@kc61d0682c4d14> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:41:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: DK1IS test Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Tom,
 
Your 1921 kHz beacon appeared here (IO91UF) at 1700 UTC. Will send screen grab after you have signed it off. Still transmitting now (1740 UTC).
Kit is ICOM 7800 plus 160m half-wave dipole. 
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
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DK0UH is very busy this weekend from their portable QTH near Ulm in southern DL, unfortunately I could only work them crossband on 40mtrs (7.021 MHz, maybe they are still active at the moment).

Also very pleased to work G3YKB in QRSS3, though I missed a part of your last over because the signal was very close to one of those dreadful Loran lines. But well done Brian !

73,
 Wolf  DL4YHF (dk4u at the moment) .

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Hello dear lf group,
 
many thanks to all giving me reports and screenshots so far: Hartmut Wolf, DL4YHF,SQ5BPM (continous screengrabber!) and DJ8WX. Having already a lot of bilateral discussions. First experience: some astonishing possibilities during day, but best conditions of course in the night, when candlelight test won´t take place ;-(
 
Will continue beaconing until morning of 20051003.
 
73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
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Subject: LF: Out off topics: Candlelight pre-test

Hello dear lf group,
 
a little bit higher in frequency, but anyway:
 
I´ve just (20050930-1700 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.202 kHz with 7 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 10, double space, 3 seconds gap. Text: test dk1is jn59wk 7mw , followed by fast cw id dk1is with 15 bpm. QRG should be rather precise because tx, rx and counter are now controlled by a rubidium frequency standard.
 
I´ll let it run during the weekend - if you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!
 
Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
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  "Thomas Kölpin" <thomas.koelpin@gmx.net> schrieb:
Hello dear lf group,
 
a little bit higher in frequency, but anyway:
 
I´ve just (20050930-1700 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.202 kHz with 7 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 10, double space, 3 seconds gap. Text: test dk1is jn59wk 7mw , followed by fast cw id dk1is with 15 bpm. QRG should be rather precise because tx, rx and counter are now controlled by a rubidium frequency standard.
 
I´ll let it run during the weekend - if you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!
 
Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
Hi Tom,
here we are. see attached SpecLab shot. signs have been audible up to now. rcv aerial: 160m band dipole.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx
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pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELo7I-00017u-9Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:37:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELo6P-0006Qi-8w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:37:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELo6O-0006QZ-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:37:00 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELouE-0000DC-2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 22:28:34 +0100 Received: from [87.82.7.178] (helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1ELo6J-0008vH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:36:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c5c6c9$4ea6af40$b2075257@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:54:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom > At the moment the three ends are insulate. > Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? As far as performance is concerned it doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference if the wires are separated at the ends or shorted together. However, if you are running a lot of power with a suburban sized antenna then the voltage on the antenna is very high. Corona at the ends of the wires can minimised by shorting the wires together. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:31:51 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELm9H-0007vr-Fw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:31:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELm9H-0007vW-8p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:31:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELm95-0006FW-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:31:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELm94-0006FN-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:31:38 +0100 Received: from bay102-f9.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.19] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELmws-0008MR-Hg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:23:09 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:31:25 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:31:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.117.151.75] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:31:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2005 18:31:25.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[54BAC140:01C5C6B6] Subject: LF: wd2xdw WOLF 137.422 em26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Tstorms have abated for a while so back on 137.422 Khz WOLF 1Kw 1826z 1st Oct Laurence KL1X/5 Oklahoma em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:46:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELlRp-0008T4-PC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:46:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELlRp-0008Sd-LP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:46:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELlQw-00068P-Sv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:46:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELlQw-00068G-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:46:02 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELm0j-0006QQ-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:23:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 79715 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2005 17:45:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.207.40 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2005 17:45:49 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:45:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcXGr/p2WCAWUDMDRZO92dxWgDwT7g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: Subject: LF: Exciting LF news or pictures? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear all I'm a bit short of the LF news for the next column so if any of you have news of new developments at your station, new countries worked, modes tried, fets blown etc etc. please let me know. Pictures are welcome too! 73 Dave G3YXM mailto:g3yxm@wireless.org.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:50:47 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELex3-0008SL-Ei for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:50:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELex3-0008SD-B3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:50:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELevo-0005pz-Oj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:49:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELevo-0005pq-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:49:28 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELfjU-0006gN-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:40:49 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-131.fen-net.de [212.204.117.11]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j91Agu0U015190 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:42:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001301c5c677$f5f7e900$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 13:04:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear friends,
          the beacon on 440.044KHz will be off air from now to 26th of october.
73   Walter   DJ2LF