From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:29:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKkQz-0008Ek-FM for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:29:54 +0100 Received: from mail12.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.26]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKkQz-0008EA-6X for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:29:53 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail12.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8SMQuHc014546; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:28:46 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21964 for lowfer-14416503; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f14.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.24]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21960 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:26:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XDW WOLF 137.422 on 2226z Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:26:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2005 22:26:19.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5FFE680:01C5C47B] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Joining XES on this mode this evening - WD2XDW 137.422 Khz WOLF commenced 2226z Laurence KL1X/5 em26 oklahoma 72F windy from the North (hurrah) ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:20:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcne-0004qE-CB for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:20:47 +0100 Received: from mail13.atl.registeredsite.com ([216.247.37.27]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcne-0004pX-2w for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:20:46 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail13.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8SECetR015885; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:18:27 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15156 for lowfer-14416503; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f24.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.34]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15151 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:12:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XDW thunderstorms - off 1200 Z ish Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:12:05 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2005 14:12:05.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF62D70:01C5C436] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Ive knocked off wd2xdw 137.7752 KHz staircase for a few hours as we have t'storms in the forecast, as the first real strong cold/cool Canadian front heads south into the Southern plains. Laurence KL1x em26aq okie ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:47:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVuE-0001oR-Tr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:47:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVuE-0001o2-P6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVtz-0001Yx-C5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVty-0001Yo-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:42 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.198.54] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJWek-0000XL-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:35:04 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005092512462601400oi0ppe>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:46:32 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c5c1cf$280c1a40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: info@alexander.n.se Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:46:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: SAQ (session2) in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SAQ session 2 short version 0.15 Meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq5editshort.wav SAQ session 2 long version 2 meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq5edit.wav Jay,W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTuS-0001tB-DP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTuS-0001pA-9a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTtc-00012o-9m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:38:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTtb-00012f-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:38:11 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJUeL-0007tw-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:26:31 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050925103750014000prvie>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:38:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c5c1bd$3422c200$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: info@alexander.n.se Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:37:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: SAQ in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SAQ session1 short version 0.5 Meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq3editshort.wav SAQ session1 long version 5 meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq3edit.wav Jay,W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:21:40 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTdb-0008Cz-Vm for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:21:40 +0100 Received: from mail6.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.80]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTdb-0008Ci-L5 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:21:39 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail6.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8PAKQak018769; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:22:47 -0400 Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13687 for lowfer-14416503; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wombat.hvi.net (mail.hvi.net [64.72.88.19]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13683 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Laptop (unverified [66.6.190.2]) by wombat.hvi.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.340.3) with SMTP id ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <001e01c5c1ba$ba8edd90$02be0642@Laptop> From: "RJ Mattson" To: "VLF at Yahoo" , "VLF at RSGB" , info@alexander.n.se Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Subject: [LW] QSL reception of SAQ at 17.2 kHz Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:20:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
25 September 2005
 
Report reception of SAQ at 0528 to 0534 approx. UTC
 
Heavy static but reception recorded on tape. RST 339
 
Receiver: RBL-3,  TRF with regenerative detector, 250 Hz audio filter.  circa 1943. Restored 2004 
 
Antenna: Amplified, resonant, 50 turn loop, 6 ft diagonals.
 
QTH: Highland, New York USA
 
Grid: FN31ar
 
Coordinates 41.7222 - 73.9922 
 
Respectfully submitted,
 
Robert J. Mattson, W2AMI
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:23 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI3oo-0004Kk-Pk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI3oo-0004K7-I1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EI3nq-0007dm-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EI3np-0007dd-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:21 +0100 Received: from bay102-f42.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.52] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EI4WZ-0007aS-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:20:42 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:34:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:34:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:34:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2005 12:34:07.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[C254D5D0:01C5BEA8] Subject: LF: XDW Wolf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit The airlines and INS were kind.. WD2XDW caame on at 0300Z 21st WOLF on 137.422 till 0900Z (couldnt sleep), then Jason Slow 137.7752 until 1230Z - Today and tonight Ill run it on WOLF on 137.422 KHz thru the day and overnight till advised It must be the end of the summer the plastic swimming pool has collapsed.... Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq bartlesville ok Decca 5501 1Kw Loop awry "array" fog/mist 66F -blue skies above From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:05 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDVOB-0002tG-Tb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDVOB-0002sj-Ox for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDVNB-0006ID-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:00:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDVNA-0006I4-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:00:00 +0100 Received: from bay102-f7.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.17] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDVoM-0007jZ-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:28:15 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:59:44 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:59:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000401c5b4be$92ecb720$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:59:44 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2005 22:59:44.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[00C62920:01C5B4C9] Subject: LF: Re: [LW] XDW day WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jay John - Impressive - I had to issue a formal warning to my company today ref potential communications issues over the next week or so. Ive been receiving warnings all day from my satellite proviiders/ISP/NOAA etc; its been some time since I last did that. We should set up - Daytime Received via Flare award I changes the message at 2224Z Laurence wd2xdw kl1x/5 137.422 WOLF em26aq >From: "John Andrews" >Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org >To: >Subject: Re: [LW] XDW day WOLF >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:45:04 +0100 > >Jay, Laurence, Alan, etc: > > > Daytime copy. > >There was an X5 flare at 2105 UTC today, coinciding with Jay's XDW copy. My >results show a big jump in signal strength right at that time. Note the >jump >in "q" values: > >2005-09-08 20:48:56 >WOLF -r 8001.12 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -d 24 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f:-0.018 a:-1.4 dp: 72.0 ci: 0 cj: 0 9 I.7MCT9*RPV*B ? >t: 48 f:-0.019 a:-1.4 dp: 69.2 ci: 4 cj:122 /MN40CEC*47C??? ? >t: 96 f:-0.017 a: 1.5 dp: 69.4 ci: 1 cj:147 PI8SGFV.HUHZYRC ? >t: 192 f:-0.029 pm:2.710 jm:783 q:-14.3 -7.2 BSQ564X01VCRC ? >t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:3.889 jm:797 q:-12.0 -8.7 W.*HK4L12LGV 1 ? >t: 384 f:-0.039 pm:5.603 jm:645 q:-12.5 -8.6 DDDN7G2*CCZ46E1 ? >t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:5.915 jm:243 q:-11.4 -8.2 06QOX51N45T6Q.B ? >t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:6.858 jm:243 q:-11.0 -7.3 R6X6ZF???M0MOBA ? >t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:7.366 jm:243 q:-10.2 -8.4 C7EEV*DXDIX E ? >t: 768 f: 0.029 pm:8.670 jm:812 q: -4.3 -7.8 GW1WXGZP/T582GA ? >t: 864 f: 0.029 pm:13.69 jm:812 q: -3.6 -9.1 84TUN5TGZYV1K7I ? >t: 960 f: 0.029 pm:19.24 jm:812 q: -2.9 -5.0 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1056 f: 0.029 pm:21.24 jm:812 q: -2.6 -4.5 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1152 f: 0.029 pm:22.54 jm:812 q: -2.2 -4.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1248 f: 0.029 pm:24.34 jm:812 q: -1.6 -3.4 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1344 f: 0.029 pm:26.88 jm:812 q: -1.1 -2.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1440 f: 0.029 pm:29.25 jm:812 q: -0.1 -2.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1536 f: 0.029 pm:30.63 jm:812 q: -0.2 -1.7 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1632 f: 0.029 pm:33.35 jm:812 q: 0.3 -1.5 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1728 f: 0.029 pm:37.00 jm:812 q: 0.8 -1.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1824 f: 0.029 pm:38.43 jm:812 q: 0.8 -0.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1920 f: 0.029 pm:40.24 jm:812 q: 1.5 -0.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2016 f: 0.029 pm:42.24 jm:812 q: 1.6 0.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2112 f: 0.029 pm:44.23 jm:812 q: 1.7 0.4 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2208 f: 0.029 pm:46.45 jm:812 q: 2.2 0.9 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2304 f: 0.029 pm:47.22 jm:812 q: 2.2 0.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2400 f: 0.029 pm:49.89 jm:812 q: 2.5 0.7 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >2005-09-08 21:29:30 >WOLF -r 8001.12 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -d 24 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f:-0.020 a: 0.5 dp: 73.2 ci: 5 cj: 69 UN2CCGKFA/5GKIL ? >t: 48 f:-0.015 a: 0.1 dp: 69.3 ci: 7 cj:126 NDHZ5I8PWBLLXRP ? >t: 96 f: 0.055 a: 0.3 dp: 66.9 ci:15 cj:137 AT8U73*H7F*0ORV ? >t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:3.574 jm:853 q:-13.3 -9.1 S2CH YCSO46.N T ? >t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:4.366 jm:398 q:-12.5 -8.3 P7YQAXKQA0LCK5X ? >t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:4.954 jm:126 q:-11.8 -6.1 T5*81GZH.I4OQ5* - >t: 480 f:-0.039 pm:6.126 jm:928 q:-10.8 -6.0 VMXIF7Q0Q5*.A9V - >t: 576 f:-0.039 pm:7.489 jm:928 q:-10.1 -6.0 KCA9V/FX94O1QOL - >t: 672 f:-0.039 pm:8.312 jm:947 q:-10.5 -7.9 5HJHIFWKG7I/PY6 ? >t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:12.00 jm:191 q: -9.9 -8.8 JP3FYX???E34YXH ? >t: 864 f:-0.039 pm:12.24 jm:191 q: -9.8 -5.8 UQBUORR*MQ CK36 ? >t: 960 f:-0.039 pm:12.49 jm:947 q: -8.6 -7.4 *ECZ/LPK*DB7ACI ? >t:1056 f:-0.039 pm:14.94 jm:947 q: -8.7 -8.4 I/ORMLFLECRK8LU ? >t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:17.75 jm:389 q: -7.3 -6.9 VI1VDZKCXOU PBK ? >t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:19.25 jm:389 q: -7.2 -6.2 EQY.7IMDNI*7S*O - >t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:19.60 jm:389 q: -7.3 -9.1 H1F7ZRLR6ZD5176 ? >t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:19.94 jm:389 q: -7.2 -6.0 ZKO6AV9/M 5 YO6 ? >t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:21.98 jm:559 q: -7.7 -8.0 BO27V9MF6FT9ICG ? >t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:23.37 jm:559 q: -7.5 -8.5 PCESCBIB/FKC/L0 ? >t:1728 f:-0.010 pm:23.95 jm:559 q: -7.5 -8.6 PCESCBIB/FKC/L0 ? >t:1824 f:-0.010 pm:25.13 jm:559 q: -7.1 -8.8 GWX0L2EBFFKC/L0 ? >t:1920 f:-0.010 pm:26.18 jm:389 q: -5.8 -7.7 IP V8AZ1N4D LLU ? >t:2016 f:-0.010 pm:28.37 jm:389 q: -5.8 -9.7 R/4L8YQDA9H5LLU ? >t:2112 f:-0.010 pm:31.36 jm:754 q: -6.0 -8.1 68R8Y43I36C*XB2 ? >t:2208 f:-0.010 pm:33.72 jm:292 q: -6.0 -8.3 X.HQNY..B.T6SFS ? >t:2304 f:-0.010 pm:35.06 jm:292 q: -5.8 -9.1 9ZLRYYV.V.X6 C5 ? >t:2400 f:-0.010 pm:35.09 jm:292 q: -5.5 -8.6 9ZLRYYV.V.X6 TN ? > >JA > > > > >________________________________________ >Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! >Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDRKt-0004Zl-Ff for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDRKt-0004ZU-BJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDRK9-0005vs-FB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:40:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDRK9-0005vj-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:40:37 +0100 Received: from bay102-f5.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.15] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDRwi-0006Tr-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:20:33 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:39:37 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:39:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:39:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2005 18:39:37.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA0E7E80:01C5B4A4] Subject: LF: XDW WOlf 137.422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit This will be the last night on air for about 10 days or so as Im France and UK bound. Watch out for daytime flares and you never know it might make TA! Laurence KL1X/5 http://myweb.cableone.net/flow em26aq 1Kw Loop wd2xdw Bartlesville OK 74006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB0GM-0004rh-9w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB0GM-0004rS-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EB0Ey-0007oW-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:21:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EB0Ex-0007oN-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:21:11 +0100 Received: from bay102-f21.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.31] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EB0dh-0003rY-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:46:46 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:21:04 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:21:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:21:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2005 01:21:04.0494 (UTC) FILETIME=[966460E0:01C5AF5C] Subject: LF: XDW Jason slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit xdw Jason slow started 0120Z 137.7752 Khz 1Kw em26aq oklahoma Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw prayers to all those South of me. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:51:24 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELQuh-0001j4-Hb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:51:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELQuh-0001ij-DB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:51:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELQtg-0004lG-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:50:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELQtf-0004l7-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:50:19 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELRTA-0000WK-67 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:27:01 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1ELQtd-0004Wo-RU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:50:17 +0200 Received: from p54868ad6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.138.214] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.53 #4) id 1ELQtd-0004gm-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:50:17 +0200 Message-ID: <433D7B14.5000608@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:51:16 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c5c5ee$618bd710$9ef306d5@kc61d0682c4d14> In-Reply-To: <001c01c5c5ee$618bd710$9ef306d5@kc61d0682c4d14> Subject: Re: LF: Out off topics: Candlelight pre-test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom, Signal now audible in JO42FD, even shows some "dog-boning" on the spectrogram at the begin and end of the dashes. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:41:49 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELPpL-00035B-MW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:41:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELPpL-00033l-AD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:41:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELPnu-0004a6-PJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:40:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELPnu-0004Zx-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:40:18 +0100 Received: from imap.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELQbD-0003Tb-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:31:18 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2005 18:40:07 -0000 Received: from Af39e.a.pppool.de (HELO kc61d0682c4d14) [213.6.243.158] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 30 Sep 2005 20:40:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #17603633 Message-ID: <001c01c5c5ee$618bd710$9ef306d5@kc61d0682c4d14> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:40:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: LF: Out off topics: Candlelight pre-test Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello dear lf group,
 
a little bit higher in frequency, but anyway:
 
I´ve just (20050930-1700 utc) started my candlelight beacon for a pre-test on 1919,200 / 1919.202 kHz with 7 mW rf at my 13-m-marconi ant, DFCW 10, double space, 3 seconds gap. Text: test dk1is jn59wk 7mw , followed by fast cw id dk1is with 15 bpm. QRG should be rather precise because tx, rx and counter are now controlled by a rubidium frequency standard.
 
I´ll let it run during the weekend - if you happen to see/hear anything I would be glad to get a report!
 
Vy 73 es cuagn
Tom, DK1IS
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:51:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELAzy-0007Qz-Ka for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:51:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELAzy-0007Qr-Gj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:51:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELAzi-0002J0-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:51:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELAzi-0002Ir-EW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:51:30 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELBmj-0006TI-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 04:42:11 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.189 ([204.127.197.189]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005093002511201400b75nee>; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:51:18 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.189; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:51:10 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:51:10 +0000 Message-Id: <093020050251.19487.433CA81E000BF5B100004C1F22092246270B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: XKO and XGJ X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Markus, Thanks for the capture, good conditions are returning! -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:41 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELAAb-0000DH-5N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ELAAb-0000Cu-00 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ELA9x-0002AL-F0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ELA9w-0002AC-Ss for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:00 +0100 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELAj8-00012Z-Uv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:34:25 +0100 Received: from derekm3uttnxf9 ([82.44.32.231]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:47 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.11.8]); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: <00c001c5c562$6c94b8c0$e7202c52@derekm3uttnxf9> From: "DEREK ATTER" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c5c516$dff5afa0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:58:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2005 01:58:47.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EBB05E0:01C5C562] Subject: LF: Re: LF AMPS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010503000109010703090600" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010503000109010703090600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mal,
I am glad to say that your comment regarding experience of frequent failures of FETs in the 1Kw Decca 5501 amplifiers in use on the LF bands (including 73Khz) is as ever, a load of codswollop!
  
 In all the years they have been used since they became available for use on the Ham bands, I have only ever had heard one report of FETs been blown. and that is despite plenty of instances of short circuits and open circuits etc.being reported on the antenna output. at full power. They have proved to be almost bomb-proof.and that includes long periods of QRSS at 10sec dots at which duty cycle they barely get warm!  They were after all designed to operate at continuous carrier ioutput n the Racal-Decca Navigator system.
 
   At least 15 of the amplifiers went through our hands at the Crawley Amateur Radio Club to various destinations including EU and North America and we still carry a quantity of spare FETs but have only ever had one request for replacements.
 
73,
Derek Atter  G3GRO 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: LF: LF AMPS

For trouble free and rugged amplifiers on LF a tube is the only reliable approach. The type of antennas used by the majority of LF radio amateurs are totally unreliable, poor insulators, antenna moving around in the wind, variations in wx dry or wet and other considerations. These conditions cause considerable variations in antenna impedance, resulting in sudden mis matches, high swr etc and except you have a high degree of protection the FETS will not survive. Tubes also suffer but seldom are destroyed.
Those using the rugged Decca Jeep fet amps (5501 amps) also suffer the same fate. The majority of users have blown the fets.
Using fet amps into a dummy load is a totally different story, no variations in load and total reliability, but connecting to the average amateur LF antenna will produce loud bangs and smoke.
Using QRS especially above 3 sec dots duration is just waiting for a disaster to happen!! 60 or 120 sec dot duration is a killer for prolonged QSO'S
Go for a tube but watch those very high anode voltages like 3k. YOU could expire prematurely.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
  

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nice traces in Nuernberg from WD2XKO for the first time, and WD2XGJ again:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/xgj_xko_29Sep05.gif (34kB)

Glad to see you !

73 de Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL5Es-0000u9-Lh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL5Er-0000sJ-P6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EL5EF-0001Yr-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EL5ED-0001Yi-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:05 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EL617-0004LF-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:32:39 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (rmailcenter75.comcast.net[204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005092920415001400l14nee>; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:41:55 +0000 Received: from [24.91.21.104] by 204.127.197.111; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:41:48 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:41:48 +0000 Message-Id: <092920052041.22799.433C518C0001C81B0000590F22064246130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: LF: LF AMPS X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mal, I've been using a FET amplifier for the past year with no problems, and I've been running QRSS 60 and QRSS 30 most of the time. I do use a loop antenna, which presents a pretty constant impedance regardless of the weather. I have many valve radios including high power amplifiers, transmitters and receivers (mostly on hf). I enjoy the warm glow of a valve set, but I also appreciate the efficiency of FETs particularly when running in continuous beacon mode. Vy 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ (Member of the Eddystone User Group) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:12 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL4GI-0006qA-Gm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL4GI-0006op-2S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EL4Ff-0001Pe-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:39:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EL4Ff-0001PV-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:39:31 +0100 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.104] helo=mx-out-01.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EL4om-0006do-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:15:49 +0100 Received: from mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8TJdRgB017822 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:39:27 +0300 Received: from mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (mx-in-03.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.26]) by mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8TJdQCA022753 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:39:26 +0300 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp20-254.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.163.254]) by mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j8TJdPLH029129 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:39:26 +0300 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20050929223414.02f2a410@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:39:04 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: References: <003101c5c4e1$48f26ce0$2201a8c0@AUG2004> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 17:56 29/9/2005 +0100, you wrote: > Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the > carrying one SAQ after the end of his transmission. Johan > SM6LKM has just given some details on an international > list VLF: lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 kw, but in > the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because > of escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal! I know that Alex, SV8QG, who lives at a quiet location, also collects the low level carrying of the animal when the manipulator is in the white of handling (key up). 73, Costas SV1XV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:13:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL2u6-0005xm-HE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:13:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EL2u6-0005xT-6b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:13:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EL2t8-0001Gb-4Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:12:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EL2t7-0001GS-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:12:09 +0100 Received: from sp0169.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.169] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EL3fy-0003DR-Iz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:02:39 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.233.11) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) id 432A19D2003AB487 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:11:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c5c516$dff5afa0$0be9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:56:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: LF: LF AMPS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
For trouble free and rugged amplifiers on LF a tube is the only reliable approach. The type of antennas used by the majority of LF radio amateurs are totally unreliable, poor insulators, antenna moving around in the wind, variations in wx dry or wet and other considerations. These conditions cause considerable variations in antenna impedance, resulting in sudden mis matches, high swr etc and except you have a high degree of protection the FETS will not survive. Tubes also suffer but seldom are destroyed.
Those using the rugged Decca Jeep fet amps (5501 amps) also suffer the same fate. The majority of users have blown the fets.
Using fet amps into a dummy load is a totally different story, no variations in load and total reliability, but connecting to the average amateur LF antenna will produce loud bangs and smoke.
Using QRS especially above 3 sec dots duration is just waiting for a disaster to happen!! 60 or 120 sec dot duration is a killer for prolonged QSO'S
Go for a tube but watch those very high anode voltages like 3k. YOU could expire prematurely.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
  
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Walter,
 
I got the same earlier using Google.
 
Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the carrying one SAQ after the end of his transmission.  Johan SM6LKM has just given some details on an international list VLF:  lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 kw, but in the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because of escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal!
 

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Blanchard
Sent: 29 September 2005 11:34
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

How about this translation (courtesy Babelfish)
 
Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the carrying one SAQ after the end of his transmission. Johan SM6LKM has just given some details on an international list VLF: lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 kw, but in the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because of escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal!
 
Pretty good, eh????
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:00:33 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKy1Y-0007vx-Ul for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:00:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKy1Y-0007vC-QV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:00:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKy0F-0000nb-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:59:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKy0E-0000nS-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:59:10 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKyZF-0002v0-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:35:22 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0208.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0E67E1C00251 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:59:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-4-19.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.135.19]) by mwinf0208.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3C9DA1C002D8 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:59:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050929125903248.3C9DA1C002D8@mwinf0208.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200509291458430173.2CA8D032@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <003101c5c4e1$48f26ce0$2201a8c0@AUG2004> References: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF2789800240EA@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> <003101c5c4e1$48f26ce0$2201a8c0@AUG2004> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:58:43 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) And, unlike some of the misrecognitions of the dictation software I use, it is fit for publication. John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29/09/2005 at 11:33 Walter Blanchard wrote: >How about this translation (courtesy Babelfish) > >Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the carrying one SAQ >after the end of his transmission. Johan SM6LKM has just given some >details on an international list VLF: lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 >kw, but in the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because of >escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal! > >Pretty good, eh???? > >Walter G3JKV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:53:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKw2F-0007Wo-L1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:53:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKw2F-0007W7-GH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:53:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKw1x-0000aZ-71 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:52:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKw1w-0000aQ-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:52:48 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKwoe-0007Mq-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:43:09 +0100 Received: from GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (200.3.3.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43376C24000397A8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:52:25 +0200 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales ([200.3.2.3]) by GWOUT with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:52:24 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:52:42 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4312FDB0001F4B1B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:22 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:22 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 431715670013B236 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:22 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:21 +0200 Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF69D@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:49:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Even better when I take your Babelfish translation and translate it again in french with Reverso  :o)
 
JL F6AGR
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de Walter Blanchard
Envoyé : jeudi 29 septembre 2005 12:34
À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Objet : LF: Re: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

How about this translation (courtesy Babelfish)
 
Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the carrying one SAQ after the end of his transmission. Johan SM6LKM has just given some details on an international list VLF: lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 kw, but in the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because of escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal!
 
Pretty good, eh????
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:35:12 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKvkt-0007Vu-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:35:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKvkt-0007Vc-BZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:35:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKvjs-0000U0-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:34:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKvjs-0000Tr-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:34:08 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKwWZ-0007D2-LM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:24:28 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 ([84.12.31.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost-av.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8TAXl0M032651 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:33:52 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c5c4e1$48f26ce0$2201a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF2789800240EA@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:33:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: Re: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
How about this translation (courtesy Babelfish)
 
Jean-Pierre F1AFJ had announced to have collected the carrying one SAQ after the end of his transmission. Johan SM6LKM has just given some details on an international list VLF: lowered manipulator, SAQ emits 200 kw, but in the white of handling, 4 kw are still radiated because of escapes in the magnetic system of amplification of the animal!
 
Pretty good, eh????
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:37 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKubf-0004aI-2Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKube-0004Zu-PC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKubX-0000IT-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKubX-0000IK-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:27 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([194.128.85.6] helo=crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKvAU-0000GP-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:57:35 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0021.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail1.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:18 +0100 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j8T9LHdc018768 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:18 +0100 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF2789800240EA@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:21:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Subject: LF: RE: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Don't worry, it gives us a chance to practice our French translation skills (or lack of them........)
 
73s
Paul     g8gja
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com [mailto:Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com]
Sent: 29 September 2005 09:51
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

Ooops, sorry, this was for the french VLF list.
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
 
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com
Envoyé : jeudi 29 septembre 2005 10:40
À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Objet : LF: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

Jean-Pierre F1AFJ avait signalé avoir capté la porteuse de SAQ après la fin de sa transmission.
Johan SM6LKM vient de donner quelques détails sur une liste VLF internationale: manipulateur baissé, SAQ émet 200 kW, mais dans les blancs de manipulation, 4 kW sont encore rayonnés à cause de fuites dans le système d'amplification magnétique de la bête !
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:15:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKuVc-0002Rx-Ma for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:15:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKuVc-0002RJ-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:15:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKuVF-0000Cv-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:14:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKuVE-0000Cm-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:14:56 +0100 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.30]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKvHs-0006Il-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:05:15 +0100 Received: from jpmpcbureau (lns-p19-10-poi-82-252-68-84.adsl.proxad.net [82.252.68.84]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id D258B2BBDB for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:14:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <004b01c5c4d6$3f2d3560$0200a8c0@jpmpcbureau> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF697@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:14:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: LF: Re: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Ooops, sorry also , this was for the french VLF list.
 
73 de JP f1afj
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: LF: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

Ooops, sorry, this was for the french VLF list.
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
 
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com
Envoyé : jeudi 29 septembre 2005 10:40
À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Objet : LF: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

Jean-Pierre F1AFJ avait signalé avoir capté la porteuse de SAQ après la fin de sa transmission.
Johan SM6LKM vient de donner quelques détails sur une liste VLF internationale: manipulateur baissé, SAQ émet 200 kW, mais dans les blancs de manipulation, 4 kW sont encore rayonnés à cause de fuites dans le système d'amplification magnétique de la bête !
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:52:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKu92-0000AF-H1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:52:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKu92-0000A4-AI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:52:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKu8v-00006F-Ht for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:51:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKu8v-000066-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:51:53 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKuvW-00063g-Sk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:42:11 +0100 Received: from GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (200.3.3.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43376C24000372FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:52:22 +0200 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales ([200.3.2.3]) by GWOUT with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:52:22 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:48 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4312FDB0001F238D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:23 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:22 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43171567001397C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:22 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:22 +0200 Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:22 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF697@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:51:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: TR: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Ooops, sorry, this was for the french VLF list.
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
 
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com
Envoyé : jeudi 29 septembre 2005 10:40
À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Objet : LF: Jean-Pierre a une bonne oreille :o)

Jean-Pierre F1AFJ avait signalé avoir capté la porteuse de SAQ après la fin de sa transmission.
Johan SM6LKM vient de donner quelques détails sur une liste VLF internationale: manipulateur baissé, SAQ émet 200 kW, mais dans les blancs de manipulation, 4 kW sont encore rayonnés à cause de fuites dans le système d'amplification magnétique de la bête !
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
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Jean-Pierre F1AFJ avait signalé avoir capté la porteuse de SAQ après la fin de sa transmission.
Johan SM6LKM vient de donner quelques détails sur une liste VLF internationale: manipulateur baissé, SAQ émet 200 kW, mais dans les blancs de manipulation, 4 kW sont encore rayonnés à cause de fuites dans le système d'amplification magnétique de la bête !
 
73 de JL F6AGR
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:25:03 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKkMJ-0000i7-6y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:25:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKkMJ-0000dz-2B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:25:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKkNi-0007NN-PX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:26:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKkNi-0007NE-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:26:30 +0100 Received: from bay102-f14.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.24] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKkwT-0004Ml-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:02:28 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:26:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:26:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2005 22:26:19.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5FFE680:01C5C47B] Subject: LF: XDW WOLF 137.422 on 2226z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Joining XES on this mode this evening - WD2XDW 137.422 Khz WOLF commenced 2226z Laurence KL1X/5 em26 oklahoma 72F windy from the North (hurrah) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:05:25 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKfMy-0000Bd-Ez for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:05:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKfMx-0000BI-Gw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:05:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKfMi-0006Zh-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:05:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKfMh-0006ZY-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:05:07 +0100 Received: from web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKg8z-0001bL-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:55:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 62897 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Sep 2005 17:04:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s5h25caARohPTomNyFtgBVtrv+JiZgNJBTEtoDoDkDW2fsdnfHNdkEKZBvkI8Xw1gdZsXomVIJBMbnCN84kD8SXuY5PqC4Mite50tdDo/vCBCY7yY5/qH8SUVwEdH+I8LNRTHXpqPGk1XjrutUQb4ER0aPsMtjatsk6PxiNk9SE= ; Message-ID: <20050928170454.62895.qmail@web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.151.15.198] by web86507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:04:54 BST Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:04:54 +0100 (BST) From: LECH LASZKIEWICZ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Hi Tom,
 I started with a single wire 150 ft long, 50 ft high, with a 400W  Tx., Antenna current was 2.4 A.
I then added a second wire, spaced 220 centimetres, resulting current was 3.8 A.
Wide spacing seems more important than number of wires. Trying with the ends shorted or isolated made no discernible difference.
73 de Lech, G3KAU 



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:21:29 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKegP-0002vv-QF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:21:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKegO-0002u3-2c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:21:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKefu-0006Q5-38 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:20:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKeft-0006Pw-MO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:20:53 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKfER-0002Ch-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:56:45 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.126.60) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7C7D001DCD1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:20:38 +0200 Message-ID: <006b01c5c440$dd4ba380$fd1624d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c5c443$00efdde0$5e0f7ad5@Main> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:25:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) 28./09/2005 1618z Thank you for further details Alan. VY 73: Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: LF: Re: 3 Topwires ?? > Hi Tom It does not seem to matter at all. You can parallel them at the feed, > at the end or have them as a meander wire. The increase in capacity seems to > be the same Though 50cm spacing is a little close and you will not get full > advantage at so close a spacing. The recommended was given as 70cms to 1m > spacing. Each extra metre should give you an extra 5 to 6pF of capacitance. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Eckart" > To: > Sent: 28 September 2005 15:28 > Subject: LF: 3 Topwires ?? > > > > Hello LF OM's, > > > > one question, I have bild up 3 parallel topwires 14m high and 20m long. > > They have a spacing of 50cm. > > At the moment the three ends are insulate. > > Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? > > > > 73' Tom DL4EAU JO51DR > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:41:30 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKe3k-0002Vt-30 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:41:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKe3j-0002UO-Eg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:41:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKe3Z-0006F9-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:41:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKe3Y-0006F0-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:41:16 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKepn-0001DR-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:31:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 52959 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2005 15:41:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.15.94 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2005 15:41:01 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c5c443$00efdde0$5e0f7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:20:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom It does not seem to matter at all. You can parallel them at the feed, at the end or have them as a meander wire. The increase in capacity seems to be the same Though 50cm spacing is a little close and you will not get full advantage at so close a spacing. The recommended was given as 70cms to 1m spacing. Each extra metre should give you an extra 5 to 6pF of capacitance. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Eckart" To: Sent: 28 September 2005 15:28 Subject: LF: 3 Topwires ?? > Hello LF OM's, > > one question, I have bild up 3 parallel topwires 14m high and 20m long. > They have a spacing of 50cm. > At the moment the three ends are insulate. > Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? > > 73' Tom DL4EAU JO51DR > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:26:09 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKdot-0006UQ-GU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:26:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKdot-0006Os-CB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:26:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKdoh-000684-ND for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:25:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKdoh-00067v-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:25:55 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKeay-00017Q-94 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:15:51 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.126.60) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7C7D001D9E62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:25:46 +0200 Message-ID: <006301c5c439$36915000$fd1624d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:30:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Tom, A very good question indeed, i think this is a capacitor, then short circuit at the end also. The wire parralel to the ground do not radiatate RF in LF. In the NDB beacons, the top "mushroom" are short circuited. :0) Any comment? 73: Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Eckart" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: LF: 3 Topwires ?? > Hello LF OM's, > > one question, I have bild up 3 parallel topwires 14m high and 20m long. > They have a spacing of 50cm. > At the moment the three ends are insulate. > Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? > > 73' Tom DL4EAU JO51DR > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:21:21 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKdkG-0001oq-SK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:21:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKdkG-0001oR-IA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:21:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKdjd-00062F-ER for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:20:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKdjd-000626-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:20:41 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKeID-0001eT-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:56:31 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.7]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8SFL39a020181 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:21:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001601c5c43f$be1b6fa0$078cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:17:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) My 700W design used 500V IRF462 devices in half bridge running from a 340V rail - not a massive design margin there. I used transformer drive direct to the devices, with the transformer primary driven from a TC4426 IC running from +15V rail (via a capacitor of course!). The drive transformer turns ratio was 1:1+1 so the FETs received 15V drive peak-peak. I did wonder, initially, about the need for negative gate clamps, but there was no reason to do so at all for any reasons associated with MOSFET itself. Switch Mode PSUs need DC restoration after a drive transformer because they don't use a 1:1 duty cycle, but that is not the case here; duty cycle is exactly 50%. That 700W Tx copied the Decca idea of having a small damped inductor in series with the two FETs to absorb with the switching transient. I blew many devices during the development phase, but all explosions were accounted for and the design is very robust now. Andy G4JNT/G8IMR -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 2005/09/28 13:54 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received >Negative drive swing clamps.....I think I am right in that.... check in the >Decca circuit (LF Exp Hdbk) that is transformer driven. >My guess is the 100V devices will just stand the 24 volt supply >Cheers de Alan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "OSBORN, Chris" >To: >Sent: 28 September 2005 12:01 >Subject: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcwX-0002oL-Gw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcwX-0002n8-9C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKcvq-0005ra-QY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKcvq-0005rR-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:14 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKdi6-0000rE-8h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:19:09 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EKcvm-0007wm-00; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:29:10 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (G01GhsZe8eU5ULnn9dusKM8mdmzOPzNSMJTX3jE4eqpzmIbul6pyQg@[217.245.118.108]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EKcvW-1RbC1g0; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:28:54 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:28:55 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ID: G01GhsZe8eU5ULnn9dusKM8mdmzOPzNSMJTX3jE4eqpzmIbul6pyQg X-TOI-MSGID: 86355655-a1bf-4ed0-9936-f77d7ac9b2a1 Subject: LF: 3 Topwires ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello LF OM's, one question, I have bild up 3 parallel topwires 14m high and 20m long. They have a spacing of 50cm. At the moment the three ends are insulate. Is it better to short the three ends, or better to insulate the ends?? 73' Tom DL4EAU JO51DR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:12:52 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcg0-0001eU-9C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:12:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKcg0-0001eK-4l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:12:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKcfS-0005lM-9D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:12:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKcfR-0005lD-Lf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:12:17 +0100 Received: from bay102-f24.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.34] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKdE2-0001BC-Up for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:48:07 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:12:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:12:05 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2005 14:12:05.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF62D70:01C5C436] Subject: LF: XDW thunderstorms - off 1200 Z ish Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Ive knocked off wd2xdw 137.7752 KHz staircase for a few hours as we have t'storms in the forecast, as the first real strong cold/cool Canadian front heads south into the Southern plains. Laurence KL1x em26aq okie From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:49:20 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKbN9-0004Oy-Ma for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:49:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKbN9-0004OJ-H2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:49:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKbMx-0005UZ-QK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:49:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKbMx-0005UQ-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:49:07 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKc99-0000Mr-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:39:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 35965 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2005 12:48:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.215.106 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2005 12:48:55 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c5c42a$f39c3b60$6ad78351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:32:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Negative drive swing clamps.....I think I am right in that.... check in the Decca circuit (LF Exp Hdbk) that is transformer driven. My guess is the 100V devices will just stand the 24 volt supply Cheers de Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: Sent: 28 September 2005 12:01 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received > > Thanks for the advice Alan, > > It's looking like a higher voltage device may be the answer. > My existing TX uses the same FET's but only runs at 24 volts. > They may well be running right on their limit and perhaps I've > just been lucky so far ! > > I must admit that I'm not using a negative voltage clamp :-( > I monitor the gate waveform on a good 'scope and wind up the > drive very slowly. > It never approaches anything like the published maximum. > It will be the work of an instant to place some diodes in > circuit - consider it done. > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] > Sent: 28 September 2005 11:41:AM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received > > > Chris > Ah according to my notes the peak voltage if you verge on Class E can > approach 4 times the supply.....I think that might be your problem. This is > necessary to allow a bit of headroom when tuning as "odd" reactances at the > drain will cause the peak drain voltage to soar. I use 200V devices up to > about 40 -45 volts supply and 500V above that. If you are transformer > driving I assume you have a negative voltage clamp (diode) > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "OSBORN, Chris" > To: "LF Group (E-mail)" > Sent: 28 September 2005 10:43 > Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received > > > > > > > > > > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 > > volts. > > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole > > circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on > > connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure > > it ? > > > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell > > shock!) > > > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > > This email is for the intended addressee only. > > If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, > disseminate or otherwise deal with it. > > Please notify the sender by return email. > > The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS > Astrium Limited. > > Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or > obligation. > > > > EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > > Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, > England > > > > > This email is for the intended addressee only. > If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. > Please notify the sender by return email. > The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. > Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. > > EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:39:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKbDA-0005yi-5R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:39:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKbD9-0005yM-WF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:39:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKbBf-0005PG-5e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:37:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKbBe-0005P7-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:37:26 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKbxs-0000ID-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:27:19 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:37:15 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:37:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:37:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: RE: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Hi Dick,
 
    Very useful information and encouraging too that your TX is so similar to mine.
    I will try that resistor mod with my last few IRF520 FET's and I have now ordered
    a TUBE of IRF630's (200 volt devices) and a few TC4426 driver IC's !!
    I shall get this rig working or die of old age in the attempt - hi!
 
    I had ferrite beads on the FET gate leads and I thought that would have cured any
    vhf parasitics. Obviously not !
    I think that my PA cooling will be ok as I have an efficient fan and large heat sink.
       
    73 Chris G3XIZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Rollema [mailto:dickrollema@casema.nl]
Sent: 28 September 2005 01:03:PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received

Dear Chris,

I use four IRF520 FET's in parallel push pull class B  in my transmitter.  The FET's are run at 40 V. The gates are driven via a transformer. At first I suffered from blown FET's till I found that was due to parasitic VHF or UHF oscillations. It was cured by inserting stopper resistors of 120 ohm directly at the gates. The circuit, with the modification, can be found at page 58 of G3XDV's book LF Today. 
After the modification  at irregular intervals one of the FET's  became a short circuit.  This was found to be caused by insufficient cooling of the heatsink.  Replacing the small fan by a larger one  cured it. The TX can now be run during the whole night without any problem.   

73, Dick, PA0SE


At 12:40 28-9-05, you wrote:

Thanks for the advice Jeff,
All points noted.

I must confess that all of the published designs seem to use a logic driver
IC.
I must be being awkward using an inductor :-(
Maybe I'd better stick to a proven design..

I'll take a photo soon and risk ridicule - HI!

73 Chris G3XIZ



-----Original Message-----
From: F6CWN [mailto:f6cwn@tiscali.fr]
Sent: 28 September 2005 10:21:AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received


Hello Chris,

At first,"RIP poor MOS"!

I prefer use MOS with higher VDS.
The driver must absorb energy, because the Ciss capacitance, i use TSC426 or
TC4429 driver.
It sis better to separate the cooling radiators to minimize the reaction
between the two parts
of the bridge (capacity Drain / Ground, the ground is "hot").
A problem with reactive loading, the coils of the LPF are reversible.
A little photography of your PA can help...

73: Jeff / F6CWN/p




----- Original Message -----
From: "OSBORN, Chris" <Chris.OSBORN@astrium.eads.net>
To: "LF Group (E-mail)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received


>
>
>
> The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding !
>
> I'm using push-pull  IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30
> volts.
> I am careful not to exceed the V gs.
>
> The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole
> circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine.
> It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on
> connection to the aerial circuit - bang !
> The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX !
>
> Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure
> it ?
>
> I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell
> shock!)
>
> 73 Chris G3XIZ


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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:04:44 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKafz-0002Ek-67 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:04:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKafz-0002E3-0p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:04:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKafT-0005Gc-9z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:04:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKafS-0005GT-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:04:10 +0100 Received: from cas-mta4-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.32] helo=mta.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKbE3-0008G3-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:39:58 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl ([83.85.106.243]) by cas-mta4.mgmt.casema.nl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0INJ00IIV06PM520@cas-mta4.mgmt.casema.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:03:02 +0200 From: Dick Rollema X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050928134355.02562130@127.0.0.1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0539-1, 27-09-2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Chris,

I use four IRF520 FET's in parallel push pull class B  in my transmitter.  The FET's are run at 40 V. The gates are driven via a transformer. At first I suffered from blown FET's till I found that was due to parasitic VHF or UHF oscillations. It was cured by inserting stopper resistors of 120 ohm directly at the gates. The circuit, with the modification, can be found at page 58 of G3XDV's book LF Today. 
After the modification  at irregular intervals one of the FET's  became a short circuit.  This was found to be caused by insufficient cooling of the heatsink.  Replacing the small fan by a larger one  cured it. The TX can now be run during the whole night without any problem.   

73, Dick, PA0SE


At 12:40 28-9-05, you wrote:

Thanks for the advice Jeff,
All points noted.

I must confess that all of the published designs seem to use a logic driver
IC.
I must be being awkward using an inductor :-(
Maybe I'd better stick to a proven design..

I'll take a photo soon and risk ridicule - HI!

73 Chris G3XIZ



-----Original Message-----
From: F6CWN [mailto:f6cwn@tiscali.fr]
Sent: 28 September 2005 10:21:AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received


Hello Chris,

At first,"RIP poor MOS"!

I prefer use MOS with higher VDS.
The driver must absorb energy, because the Ciss capacitance, i use TSC426 or
TC4429 driver.
It sis better to separate the cooling radiators to minimize the reaction
between the two parts
of the bridge (capacity Drain / Ground, the ground is "hot").
A problem with reactive loading, the coils of the LPF are reversible.
A little photography of your PA can help...

73: Jeff / F6CWN/p




----- Original Message -----
From: "OSBORN, Chris" <Chris.OSBORN@astrium.eads.net>
To: "LF Group (E-mail)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received


>
>
>
> The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding !
>
> I'm using push-pull  IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30
> volts.
> I am careful not to exceed the V gs.
>
> The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole
> circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine.
> It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on
> connection to the aerial circuit - bang !
> The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX !
>
> Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure
> it ?
>
> I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell
> shock!)
>
> 73 Chris G3XIZ


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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:58 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZhF-000296-Mj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZhF-00028q-DO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZh6-00055I-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZh6-000559-2Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:48 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKaTJ-00081q-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:51:38 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:38 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:01:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks for the advice Alan, It's looking like a higher voltage device may be the answer. My existing TX uses the same FET's but only runs at 24 volts. They may well be running right on their limit and perhaps I've just been lucky so far ! I must admit that I'm not using a negative voltage clamp :-( I monitor the gate waveform on a good 'scope and wind up the drive very slowly. It never approaches anything like the published maximum. It will be the work of an instant to place some diodes in circuit - consider it done. 73 Chris G3XIZ -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] Sent: 28 September 2005 11:41:AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Chris Ah according to my notes the peak voltage if you verge on Class E can approach 4 times the supply.....I think that might be your problem. This is necessary to allow a bit of headroom when tuning as "odd" reactances at the drain will cause the peak drain voltage to soar. I use 200V devices up to about 40 -45 volts supply and 500V above that. If you are transformer driving I assume you have a negative voltage clamp (diode) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 28 September 2005 10:43 Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received > > > > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 > volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole > circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on > connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure > it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell > shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > This email is for the intended addressee only. > If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. > Please notify the sender by return email. > The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. > Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. > > EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > This email is for the intended addressee only. 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EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:52 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZSd-0001Nl-GH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZSd-0001NU-BS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZSL-0004yE-1H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZSK-0004y5-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:32 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKa0r-0007HZ-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:22:18 +0100 Received: from GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (200.3.3.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43376C2400029C54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:47:04 +0200 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales ([200.3.2.3]) by GWOUT with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:47:04 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:30 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4312FDB0001E2AE9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:04 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:03 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 431715670012F0F6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:03 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:03 +0200 Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:03 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF682@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: RE: LF: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit > I would have thought that the aerial system was resonant but > something seems > to have changed ! > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > May be some FET sellers slyly de-tune the ham antennas during the night, just to get new orders and make plenty money ... 73 Jean-Louis F6AGR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZNp-0000Vs-TJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZNp-0000Vm-PA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZNj-0004py-G7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZNi-0004pl-W2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:46 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZwG-0007Co-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:17:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 98747 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2005 10:41:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.198.226 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2005 10:41:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c5c419$283add20$e2c67ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Chris Ah according to my notes the peak voltage if you verge on Class E can approach 4 times the supply.....I think that might be your problem. This is necessary to allow a bit of headroom when tuning as "odd" reactances at the drain will cause the peak drain voltage to soar. I use 200V devices up to about 40 -45 volts supply and 500V above that. If you are transformer driving I assume you have a negative voltage clamp (diode) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 28 September 2005 10:43 Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received > > > > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 > volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole > circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on > connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure > it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell > shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > This email is for the intended addressee only. > If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. > Please notify the sender by return email. > The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. > Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. > > EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:05 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZMx-0008DK-1F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:41:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZMw-0008CO-3T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZMS-0004nQ-Do for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZMS-0004nH-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:28 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZv3-0007Bb-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:16:14 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:18 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:40:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: RE: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks for the advice Jeff, All points noted. I must confess that all of the published designs seem to use a logic driver IC. I must be being awkward using an inductor :-( Maybe I'd better stick to a proven design.. I'll take a photo soon and risk ridicule - HI! 73 Chris G3XIZ -----Original Message----- From: F6CWN [mailto:f6cwn@tiscali.fr] Sent: 28 September 2005 10:21:AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Hello Chris, At first,"RIP poor MOS"! I prefer use MOS with higher VDS. The driver must absorb energy, because the Ciss capacitance, i use TSC426 or TC4429 driver. It sis better to separate the cooling radiators to minimize the reaction between the two parts of the bridge (capacity Drain / Ground, the ground is "hot"). A problem with reactive loading, the coils of the LPF are reversible. A little photography of your PA can help... 73: Jeff / F6CWN/p ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received > > > > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 > volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole > circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on > connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure > it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell > shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ This email is for the intended addressee only. 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EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:31 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZIc-0006hI-BK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZIc-0006h8-3i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZIR-0004ia-Jx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZIR-0004iR-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:19 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZqz-00078w-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:12:05 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:07 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:36:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: RE: LF: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Many thanks Rik, I shall put in an order for some more robust fet's. I would have thought that the aerial system was resonant but something seems to have changed ! 73 Chris G3XIZ -----Original Message----- From: Rik Strobbe [mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be] Sent: 28 September 2005 11:21:AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Advice will be gratefully received Chris, if the load differs from 50 Ohm (and especially if ot has a reactive component) the drain voltage can easily sing to 5 times the power supply voltage. I would recommend to use FET's with a higher Vds. I have been using IRFP350's and IRFP450's in my 450 W PA running at 55V supply voltage and they survived all kinds of misthreatment. 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:43 28/09/2005 +0100, you wrote: > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 >volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole >circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on >connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure >it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell >shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > >This email is for the intended addressee only. >If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, >disseminate or otherwise deal with it. >Please notify the sender by return email. >The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS >Astrium Limited. >Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or >obligation. > >EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 >Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, >England Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm This email is for the intended addressee only. 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EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:36 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZ1G-0002T3-H2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKZ1F-0002RG-Kc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZ18-0004ZX-IH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKZ18-0004ZO-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:26 +0100 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZnF-0007cO-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:08:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D025313795A for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:18:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp01.kuleuven.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAAB137B87 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp01.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBD063D68; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by smtp01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49A863D5F for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050928121658.02fc4360@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:21:26 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Chris, if the load differs from 50 Ohm (and especially if ot has a reactive component) the drain voltage can easily sing to 5 times the power supply voltage. I would recommend to use FET's with a higher Vds. I have been using IRFP350's and IRFP450's in my 450 W PA running at 55V supply voltage and they survived all kinds of misthreatment. 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:43 28/09/2005 +0100, you wrote: > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 >volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole >circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on >connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure >it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell >shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > >This email is for the intended addressee only. >If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, >disseminate or otherwise deal with it. >Please notify the sender by return email. >The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS >Astrium Limited. >Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or >obligation. > >EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 >Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, >England Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:43 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKYzS-0002dR-7r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKYzR-0002d2-UC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKYzD-0004Wt-UY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKYzD-0004Wk-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:27 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZXn-00070C-SI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:52:13 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.22.253) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7C7D001CC4D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:16:20 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c5c40d$fc957780$fd1624d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:21:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Chris, At first,"RIP poor MOS"! I prefer use MOS with higher VDS. The driver must absorb energy, because the Ciss capacitance, i use TSC426 or TC4429 driver. It sis better to separate the cooling radiators to minimize the reaction between the two parts of the bridge (capacity Drain / Ground, the ground is "hot"). A problem with reactive loading, the coils of the LPF are reversible. A little photography of your PA can help... 73: Jeff / F6CWN/p ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received > > > > The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! > > I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 > volts. > I am careful not to exceed the V gs. > > The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole > circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. > It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on > connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! > The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! > > Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure > it ? > > I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell > shock!) > > 73 Chris G3XIZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:45:03 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKYUm-0000lp-Gj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:45:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKYUl-0000gY-K2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:45:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKYTd-0004Q5-40 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:43:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKYTc-0004Pw-M2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:43:48 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKZ2A-0006m9-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:19:34 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:43:33 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:43:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:43:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: Advice will be gratefully received Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit The PA FET's in my new home brew transmitter keep exploding ! I'm using push-pull IRF520's rated at 100 V Vds and my supply is 30 volts. I am careful not to exceed the V gs. The gates are driven with a toroidal transformer and the whole circuit is just a scaled up version of my original TX, which works fine. It generates healthy power into a 50 ohm dummy load but on connection to the aerial circuit - bang ! The aerial system is identical to that used with the old TX ! Has anyone any ideas on what's causing the problem and how to cure it ? I'm running out of FET's and my nerves are somewhat frayed (shell shock!) 73 Chris G3XIZ This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:59 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKGqB-0008OW-Vg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKGqB-0008NE-PC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKGpx-0003AQ-UT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKGpx-0003AH-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:41 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKHOE-0000IR-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:29:08 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EKGpu-00032N-00; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:53:38 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TEOJFEZVQexN89zFl09ad4C9t8k-Lt6t9sLmyqoRNzecOArSJXD9rU@[84.133.97.75]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EKGpg-1nl0Mq0; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:53:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:53:22 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:24:40 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKGNr-0004oT-Me for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:24:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EKGNr-0004nx-Jj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:24:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EKGM9-00031V-9A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:22:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EKGM8-00031M-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:22:52 +0100 Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de ([195.37.42.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EKH7p-0002Yn-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:12:17 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id C4A03213300 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:22:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rzlsrv1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02561-08 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [10.10.130.30]) by rzlsrv1.fh-amberg-weiden.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id 980D6213301 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:22:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <433955A5.1000305@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:22:29 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6lpin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; de-DE; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030619 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: de-de, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fh-amberg-weiden.de Subject: LF: Winradio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear group, is there anybody having experiences with the various versions of WinRadio on 136 kHz? Thanks and 73! Tom, DK1IS JN59WK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:42:46 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJdKe-0006F5-Qx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:42:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJdKe-0006Es-NJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:42:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJdKC-0003FI-62 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:42:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJdKB-0003F9-Nz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:42:15 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJe57-0004OO-8Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:30:48 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EJdK7-0006wL-08; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:42:11 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rXRIAOZYrebGySE5NwDCNO85GfyHFHTiHpeZv6pDRcR1WMU2CFrGrH@[84.133.97.154]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EJdK3-1DgIYS0; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:42:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:42:05 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1398999382.20050925224205@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rXRIAOZYrebGySE5NwDCNO85GfyHFHTiHpeZv6pDRcR1WMU2CFrGrH X-TOI-MSGID: b2ecad64-da3b-4948-a14b-a9095ecf23e2 Subject: LF: LF activities Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Added screenshots taken in the past 24h of VO1NA, WD2XES, WD2XGJ, WD2XKO, DL4EAU, DJ6GT, PA0BWL, G3WCB, DK1IS, F6BWO, G3XIZ, DK4U and DL3ZID to my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:02:27 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJapX-0006vt-4k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:02:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJapX-0006vl-08 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:02:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJaoo-0002ga-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:01:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJaoo-0002gR-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:01:42 +0100 Received: from web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.178]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJbMH-0004E4-VI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:36:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 15276 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2005 18:01:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l8IDqbJxEu909LH0+fBw5TITkKHZTkV/WuomtzoWhudID9OiIBZpmUfxwOfpOZWxpCEHlS0BBgP6t+sZneuXqUnRsjCxp/u0JUBG3nW4qGbDTNabT368f/x9cZJORwHrZJNQ/ROs7oLRTqFXFyGoPvSkh4S3BlhsVIQF2nKJG9k= ; Message-ID: <20050925180122.15274.qmail@web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:01:22 BST Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:01:22 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1813721710.20050925010128@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: EU activity today Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Hi Dave / Hi Hartmut
 
many thanks for the reports - good to see that I am getting out.
 
I've been dabbling with my loop antenna - have added a second turn to my modest loop (3.5m by 7.5m). It seems to be working better on Rx and your reports confirm that some of the  8 amps of loop current are escaping !!
 
Regards
 
Brian G3YKB (IO91TP)

Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de> wrote:
Dave,

> LF, Brian,

> Strong QRSS3 signals here from G3YKB at about 1115utc

thanks for this information. After reading your posting I looked again
on my captures and found some weak traces of the signal.

73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de

How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:23:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWTq-0004hn-PV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:23:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWTq-0004ha-Hd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:23:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWTd-0001tx-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:23:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWTd-0001to-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:23:33 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJXEQ-0000ud-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:11:56 +0100 Received: from jboi0045tiscali (213.36.0.172) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7DD70011931D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:23:25 +0200 Message-ID: <003a01c5c1d4$316ece20$280124d5@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:21:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
25./09/2005   1246z
 
 Hello all,
 
 A great SWL moment for me, (i suppose i'm not alone!)
Super signals from the Alexanderson generator ~25 dB above noise level.
Equipment: delta loop 1.46m, 56 turns, 1.4 mm wire with electrostatic screen (specially for this event) 
RX: SPM3 with ADRET generator (TCXO control) in local oscillator and
Siemens Level Meter D2019 ( BW 20 Hz), ringing tonality but very strong S/N!
The second transmission was stronger (~3 dB).
 
Congratulations to the team who is in charge of a so beautiful ancestor!
 
 73: Jeff / F6CWN/p JN18CW
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:14:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWL8-0000Ki-Hb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:14:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWL8-0000KV-An for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:14:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWMc-0001mt-Sx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:16:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWMc-0001mk-Au for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:16:18 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJWu5-0001a8-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:50:57 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1EJWMX-0002rN-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:16:13 +0200 Received: from www2.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.199] helo=www3.emo.freenet-rz.de) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.53 #4) id 1EJWMX-0000Vg-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:16:13 +0200 Received: from www-data by www3.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1EJWMX-0006C6-Iw for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:16:13 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 84.134.178.65 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:16:13 +0200 Subject: LF: QRSS-grabber by DL3ZID Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageGreetings all,

Eberhard DL3ZID just sent me this info via HELL on 137.7 kHz:

He has his own QRSS-grabber running now, see

http://www.mvnet.de/priv/vw/capt.jpg

Maybe you catch the end of our QSO, which is still in progress ;-)

73,
 Wolf  DL4YHF / DK4U

(excuses for the commercial added by the webmail-provider)


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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:03:43 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWAQ-0003rq-L5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:03:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJWAQ-0003rg-Dv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:03:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWAC-0001fx-Om for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:03:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJWAC-0001fo-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:03:28 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.76.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJWuu-0000eZ-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:51:50 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005092513030901100pbpgse>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:03:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c5c1d1$7d8dd560$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:03:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) "Pre" session 2 warmup V's http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/SAQ092505.jpg Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:47:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVuE-0001oR-Tr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:47:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVuE-0001o2-P6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVtz-0001Yx-C5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVty-0001Yo-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:46:42 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.198.54] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJWek-0000XL-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:35:04 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005092512462601400oi0ppe>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:46:32 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c5c1cf$280c1a40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: info@alexander.n.se Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:46:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: SAQ (session2) in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SAQ session 2 short version 0.15 Meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq5editshort.wav SAQ session 2 long version 2 meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq5edit.wav Jay,W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:10:08 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVKZ-0006mq-4Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:10:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJVKY-0006mV-VZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:10:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVK2-0001QG-VI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:09:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJVK2-0001Q7-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:09:34 +0100 Received: from pop.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJVrV-0000yx-Ia for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:44:12 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Sep 2005 12:09:21 -0000 Received: from p54907779.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO router) [84.144.119.121] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 25 Sep 2005 14:09:21 +0200 X-Authenticated: #9373712 Message-ID: <002201c5c1ca$d6cf6dc0$0400a8c0@router> From: "Uwe Wensauer" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:15:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: LF: SAQ - same es everytime before Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
good copy in JO43IU ( Cuxhaven )  but heavy statics
signal abt s6 above noise
Antenne "Tee" (fres 2Mhz)
Converter (NE612)
 
looking for second xmission
 
Uwe, DK1KQ
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:47 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJUEU-0004HZ-D1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJUEU-0004HT-9C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJUEh-0001Ah-77 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJUEg-0001AY-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:58 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJUzR-000853-EB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:48:18 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 25 Sep 2005 11:59:49 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,143,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="26480986:sNHT19420142" Received: from dsl-80-43-11-78.access.as9105.com ([80.43.11.78]:1607 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EJUCR-0002wF-Ev; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:57:39 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: info@alexander.n.se Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:59:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, Congratulations & good reception this morning for 0930utc SAQ transmission. Report - RST 559 Location - IO83qp - Chorley, Lancashire, Northwest UK. Antenna - 850mm square loop (G3LNP) Reciever JRC NRD-345 Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTuS-0001tB-DP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTuS-0001pA-9a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:39:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTtc-00012o-9m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:38:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTtb-00012f-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:38:11 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJUeL-0007tw-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:26:31 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050925103750014000prvie>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:38:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c5c1bd$3422c200$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Cc: info@alexander.n.se Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:37:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: LF: SAQ in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SAQ session1 short version 0.5 Meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq3editshort.wav SAQ session1 long version 5 meg www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/saq3edit.wav Jay,W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:20:38 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTcc-0007DV-3L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:20:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTcb-0007DM-Kz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:20:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTcU-0000wM-PG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:20:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTcU-0000wD-AK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:20:30 +0100 Received: from mail.hvi.net ([64.72.88.19] helo=wombat.hvi.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJUNB-0007fr-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:08:49 +0100 Received: from Laptop (unverified [66.6.190.2]) by wombat.hvi.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.340.3) with SMTP id ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <001e01c5c1ba$ba8edd90$02be0642@Laptop> From: "RJ Mattson" To: "VLF at Yahoo" , "VLF at RSGB" , info@alexander.n.se Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 06:20:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: QSL reception of SAQ at 17.2 kHz Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
25 September 2005
 
Report reception of SAQ at 0528 to 0534 approx. UTC
 
Heavy static but reception recorded on tape. RST 339
 
Receiver: RBL-3,  TRF with regenerative detector, 250 Hz audio filter.  circa 1943. Restored 2004 
 
Antenna: Amplified, resonant, 50 turn loop, 6 ft diagonals.
 
QTH: Highland, New York USA
 
Grid: FN31ar
 
Coordinates 41.7222 - 73.9922 
 
Respectfully submitted,
 
Robert J. Mattson, W2AMI
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:21 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTZQ-0001BA-FY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTZQ-0001Ap-8M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTZA-0000rh-EY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTZ9-0000rY-Tw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:03 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJU6Z-00084p-14 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:51:40 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.147] (helo=mx4.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53-RC2) id 1EJTZ1-00015r-Ni for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:16:55 +0200 Received: from p5486b241.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.178.65] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx4.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.53 #4) id 1EJTZ1-00023q-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:16:55 +0200 Message-ID: <43365D21.9020906@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:17:37 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <433673DD.1040805@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <433673DD.1040805@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: LF: SAQ transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Also excellent copy here in JO42FD on 17.2 kHz at 09:30 UTC. I have uploaded a wavefile to http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/saq/saq_050925_0930.zip if anyone has missed it (recording made with active ferrite antenna, downconversion via software, 250 Hz audio bandwidth). 73, Wolf DL4YHF (now heading for DK4U ... CU on LF). From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:39 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTVq-0008RK-Ts for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTVq-0008RE-Pc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTW2-0000nH-Nh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTW2-0000n8-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:50 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJU3V-00081P-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:48:26 +0100 Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050925101343.LLLW21883.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:43 +0100 Received: from p2300 ([80.1.84.50]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050925101342.CJRE3160.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@p2300>; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c5c1ba$3698f980$32540150@p2300> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Liste VLF F" , info@alexander.n.se, sm6nm@telia.com References: <433673DD.1040805@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:16:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hear Hear ! 559 in South of England with 4 feet of wire antenna. G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean-L. RAULT To: Liste VLF F ; Liste LF RSGB ; ; Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: LF: SAQ transmission > Congratulations to the Grimeton team for the nice demo ! > > 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR > JN18DQ > > > > "CQ de SAQ. > This is the Grimeton radio / SAQ with the Alexanderson alternator on > 17,2 kHz. This transmission is celebrating the first edition of a stamp > showing one of the six antenna towers. > Signed the Association Alexander-Grimeton Veteranradios Vaenner. AR > For QSL info pse read our web info @ www.alexander.n.se > AR de SAQ > QRX at 1230Z" > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:54:34 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTDO-0003j8-8W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:54:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJTDO-0003j0-5B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:54:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTDa-0000h4-T8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:54:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJTDa-0000gv-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:54:46 +0100 Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJTl1-0007nf-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:29:22 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CEEBA1C00287 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:54:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-9-144.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.104.144]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B46E1C00283; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:54:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050925095437570.8B46E1C00283@mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <433673DD.1040805@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:54:37 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste VLF F , Liste LF RSGB , info@alexander.n.se, sm6nm@telia.com Subject: LF: SAQ transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Congratulations to the Grimeton team for the nice demo ! 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR JN18DQ "CQ de SAQ. This is the Grimeton radio / SAQ with the Alexanderson alternator on 17,2 kHz. This transmission is celebrating the first edition of a stamp showing one of the six antenna towers. Signed the Association Alexander-Grimeton Veteranradios Vaenner. AR For QSL info pse read our web info @ www.alexander.n.se AR de SAQ QRX at 1230Z" From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:29:37 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJSpF-0002jq-0l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:29:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJSpE-0002jd-SM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:29:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJSp5-0000Yp-Sl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:29:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJSp5-0000Yg-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:29:27 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.28]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJTZo-0007CV-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:17:45 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0304.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A4A151C00CC5 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-9-144.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.104.144]) by mwinf0304.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7EC421C00CB9 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:29:20 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050925092920519.7EC421C00CB9@mwinf0304.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43366DF0.6010003@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:29:20 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43365929.9030201@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <43365929.9030201@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: LF: SAQ on air ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Signal to noise about 30 dB on 17,200 now at 09:28 UTC G5RV used as T antenna + AR5000A 73 de JL F6AGR Jean-L. RAULT a écrit : > SAQ is sending VVV at 07:58 UTC around 17,165 kHz > > 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:15:43 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJSbn-0006NR-6C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:15:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJSbn-0006Lu-2T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:15:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJSbE-0000Ss-Vs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:15:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJSbE-0000Sj-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:15:08 +0100 Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr ([193.92.150.104] helo=mx-out-04.forthnet.gr) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJT8d-0007Oh-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:49:43 +0100 Received: from mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8P9F0lW012591 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:15:00 +0300 Received: from mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8P9F0tQ007136 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:15:00 +0300 Received: from z8q8y2.ath.forthnet.gr (ppp5-40.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.148.40]) by mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j8P9ExCj012169 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:14:59 +0300 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20050925121354.02f240e0@popper.forthnet.gr> X-Sender: kkrallis.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:14:41 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Costas Krallis SV1XV In-Reply-To: <1687911913.20050924224357@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: SAQ activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Very good signals from SAQ in Athens, Greece today. Costas +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Costas Krallis SV1XV * LOC KM18UA | | P.O.Box 3066 * E-Mail: | | GR-10210 Athens * PGP key: 0x3BDBBC34 | | GREECE * http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/ | +------------------------------------------------------------+ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:02:49 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJRTE-0004Xc-5o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:02:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJRTE-0004XO-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:02:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJRRJ-0000Gd-6w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:00:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJRRI-0000GP-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:00:48 +0100 Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJSC0-0006Rj-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:49:05 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0909.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 04ED42400112 for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-9-144.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.104.144]) by mwinf0909.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D4AE42400102; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:00:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050925080041871.D4AE42400102@mwinf0909.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43365929.9030201@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:00:41 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste LF RSGB , Liste VLF F Subject: LF: SAQ on air ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) SAQ is sending VVV at 07:58 UTC around 17,165 kHz 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:02:22 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJJ2E-0007TE-Av for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:02:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJJ2E-0007T4-2L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:02:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJJ1Z-0006P4-SQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJJ1Z-0006Ov-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:01:41 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJJm0-0001qs-Cm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:49:46 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EJJ1S-0001NL-02; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:01:34 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rIafxEZGreYx9RQ4-Va-PZwGKvIvzDhDLCviDhxWuf78BDuvTY766c@[84.133.71.238]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EJJ1O-1UUkxk0; Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:01:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:01:28 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1813721710.20050925010128@t-online.de> To: Dave G3WCB In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rIafxEZGreYx9RQ4-Va-PZwGKvIvzDhDLCviDhxWuf78BDuvTY766c X-TOI-MSGID: 65a695bf-6983-4986-a8d6-7c01c62f7822 Subject: Re: LF: EU activity today Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030805030806070903010008" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030805030806070903010008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, > LF, Brian, > Strong QRSS3 signals here from G3YKB at about 1115utc thanks for this information. 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21:58:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJH6Z-00064p-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:58:43 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJHr0-0001BQ-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:46:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 62523 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2005 20:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.154.213 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 20:58:33 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:59:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <1687911913.20050924224357@t-online.de> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: G4WGT... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050000030008050209000102" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050000030008050209000102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gary, LF, Your signals are making it onto OZ7QC's grabber OK at around 2047 UTC (see attachment) http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 24 September 2005 21:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: EU activity today Added screenshot of VO1NA, G3XIZ, DL2HRE, F6BWO, G3WCB and G4WGT 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(v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1687911913.20050924224357@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: EX-esMZYYe1U3Z2E2uQv5kTw7JNYIwoCFc9drLMwEYvr9zKoPIs-YU X-TOI-MSGID: 3f9876fa-2703-41f4-a4bc-aaf810efed80 Subject: LF: EU activity today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Added screenshot of VO1NA, G3XIZ, DL2HRE, F6BWO, G3WCB and G4WGT (beaconing on 137.772 kHz since about 19:20UTC) to my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:50:13 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJG2G-0002ic-3P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:50:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJG2F-0002iR-VQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:50:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJG1d-0005rE-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:49:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJG1c-0005r5-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:49:32 +0100 Received: from web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJGYr-0002MS-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:23:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 12033 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2005 19:49:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DEQ8CVxITCrs4qpkbi0V7dfqmzHiVOvYBY158xS5UHIFWu+pKZXeWVI4TT0Xum+cDnN30sCmR37EqaWy0w2/cOc8KHMwdCq5+9ZuYk2NB+xrRjZZfUlZxdxbBfJCWpQbUYxJYvUaueKJ3CWz9Pn/oWCE5lwa9srtSidNspOPG/0= ; Message-ID: <20050924194926.12031.qmail@web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.252.64.18] by web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:49:26 BST Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:49:26 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <43355108.7070701@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: G3XIZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Many thanks for the reports from Jean-Louis and from Ko.
I am having trouble with the PA in the new TX and have blown up some FET's !
I shall rebuild it tomorrow and try again.
I managed a QSO with Jeff F6BWO before it exploded.
 
73 Chris G3XIZ

"Jean-L. RAULT" <f6agr@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Nice sigs here in JN18DQ

Rig:
- 23 turns 1.1 x 1.1 m square loop (1 co-axial turn for coupling)
- AOR AR5000A receiver


73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:14:49 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ9rc-0006Xl-Tr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:14:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ9rc-0006XX-H0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:14:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ9qk-0005L4-8h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:13:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ9qj-0005Kv-NW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:13:53 +0100 Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJAb2-0007R2-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:01:46 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E9D111C001CE for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-9-177.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.104.177]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF3881C001CA for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:13:44 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050924131344717.AF3881C001CA@mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43355108.7070701@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:13:44 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste LF RSGB Subject: LF: G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060304030409070703080805" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060304030409070703080805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nice sigs here in JN18DQ Rig: - 23 turns 1.1 x 1.1 m square loop (1 co-axial turn for coupling) - AOR AR5000A receiver 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR --------------060304030409070703080805 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="G3XIZ.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="G3XIZ.jpg" 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for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:05:56 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:08:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Re: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, Just read the mail reference SAQ. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:30 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ6oc-0005P9-3L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ6oc-0005P2-00 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ6o9-000508-RW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ6o9-0004zz-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:59:01 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJ7LE-0007ZN-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:33:14 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2005 10:58:54 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,142,1125874800"; d="scan'208"; a="17142991:sNHT339190817" Received: from dsl-80-43-44-27.access.as9105.com ([80.43.44.27]:1197 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EJ6o1-000BtT-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:58:54 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Decca Active Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi All, I have a "Decca Active Antenna" pre-amp & I was wondering if anyone had used the pre-amp with an antenna other than the whip type which seems to be the only one mentioned. I did try it with a small loop using a toroid input transformer like the one recently discussed relating to the Burhans pre-amp but that was a worse than useless with the Decca pre-amp. If anyone has had any success with this using other antenna's & what form of matching/couplng has beenI would be very interested to know. Please let me know. By the way, I saw a reference to an SAQ transmission taking place this sunday in an e-mail on LW reflector, is there going to be a test? Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:02:05 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ5v3-0001BO-3k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:02:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EJ5v2-0001BA-W3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:02:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ5uk-0004r8-WA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:01:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EJ5uk-0004qz-Id for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:01:46 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EJ6Ro-00079A-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:35:58 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8O91hWt031567 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:01:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <433515F6.1000509@xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:01:42 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c5c0df$e5fb0340$f30a24d5@jboi0045tiscali> In-Reply-To: <000b01c5c0df$e5fb0340$f30a24d5@jboi0045tiscali> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0538-7, 09/23/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: LF: RX now... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) F6CWN wrote: > 24./09/2005 0800z > > Hello the list, > > Good RX from G3XIZ on 137.690 now in JN18CW. > > 73: Jeff / F6CWN/p GM All And loud at 09:00, see grabber :-) 73 Ko. 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24./09/2005 0800z
 
 Hello the list,
 
 Good RX from G3XIZ on 137.690 now in JN18CW.
 
73: Jeff / F6CWN/p
 
 
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23 Sep 2005 22:19:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIux7-0003SU-Rz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:19:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIux7-0003SL-Cq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:19:29 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIvTz-0003Mc-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:53:30 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.224.201) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7DD7000E8C0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:19:19 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c5c07c$c0367800$c9e024d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c5c077$96d65fc0$c9e024d5@jeff> <43346C7B.1060604@xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:24:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) 23./09/2005 2104z Hello Ko, Glad to see you the night. Only noise this night from JN18CW (20 Km NW from Paris), the QRM in not the same here, time to time big bursts and we are not in winter... 73 Ko and good WE Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ko Versteeg" To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Re: LF: activity? > F6CWN wrote: > > 23./09/2005 2034z > > > > Hello all! > > > > QRV again from JN18CW with SPM3 control by a ADRET external generator. > > > > Please anybody QRV? > > > > 73:Jeff / F6CWN/p > > > I am on, what's Cooking Jeff. > Nothing but noise right now > 73 de Ko, NL9222 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:58:57 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIudF-0003cf-2p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:58:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIudE-0003cQ-UY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:58:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIud5-0003Mh-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:58:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIud4-0003MY-Gn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:58:46 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.21]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIvN0-0003wZ-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:46:18 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8NKwZFU051039 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:58:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <43346C7B.1060604@xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:58:35 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002401c5c077$96d65fc0$c9e024d5@jeff> In-Reply-To: <002401c5c077$96d65fc0$c9e024d5@jeff> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0538-7, 09/23/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: LF: activity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) F6CWN wrote: > 23./09/2005 2034z > > Hello all! > > QRV again from JN18CW with SPM3 control by a ADRET external generator. > > Please anybody QRV? > > 73:Jeff / F6CWN/p I am on, what's Cooking Jeff. Nothing but noise right now 73 de Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:44:12 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIuOx-0006w3-2Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:44:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIuOw-0006vm-TW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:44:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIuNL-0003Hg-NU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:42:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIuNL-0003HX-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:42:31 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIuuC-0003BZ-Ew for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:16:31 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.224.201) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 432E7C7D000E8781 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:42:22 +0200 Message-ID: <002401c5c077$96d65fc0$c9e024d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: "LF-GB" Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 20:46:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: activity? 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23./09/2005   2034z
 
 Hello all!
 
QRV again from JN18CW with SPM3 control by a ADRET external generator.
 
Please anybody QRV?
 
73:Jeff / F6CWN/p
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:36:01 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIjyG-0006d9-Q6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:36:00 +0100 Received: from [212.159.7.114] (helo=ptn-mxlast02.plus.net) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIjyG-0006c5-Ky for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:35:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptn-mxlast02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXLast v2.00) id 1EIjyB-0004AJ-E5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:35:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIjro-0002gx-9l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:29:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIjrn-0002go-Kn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:29:15 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIkOQ-0005TT-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:03:04 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:28:57 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:28:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:29:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: RE: RE: DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Many thanks Dave, All noted with interest and I should have no trouble now. I saw your CQ on DFCW last night, must have been about 8 'ish. I was tweaking my new RX and you were of course a colossal signal. 73 Chris G3XIZ -----Original Message----- From: Dave G3WCB [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com] Sent: 22 September 2005 09:12:PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: DFCW Hi, Chris. I use the program "QRS v4.02" from ON7YD to send both QRSS amd DFCW. It's very easy to use and configure, and you can do useful things like alter the inter-character spacings, flip DFCW mark and space, etc. You need to build a 1-transistor interface/level shifter to key the transmitter, but the circuit is contained in the "Help" documentation that comes with the program. http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/software_main.htm If you can't get enough swing with a vari-cap, you can use a 1N918 or 1N4148 Si diode as a switch, and use it to switch a trimmer capacitor across the crystal. I use a crystal in the 3MHz range in a Colpitts configuration, and the DFCW control signal switches a 3-30 pF trimmer across the crystal. For DFCW3 speeds, about 3 or 4 Hz shift is all you need. If you go to DFCW10 or longer, you need only about 1 Hz or less shift. The convention seems to be that the dash is the higher frequency. 73 Dave G3WCB IO1RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of OSBORN, Chris Sent: 22 September 2005 13:57 To: LF Group (E-mail) Subject: LF: DFCW My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option of DFCW. I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the crystal and thus pulling the frequency for achieving the dots / dashes. Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve this ? 73 Chris G3XIZ This email is for the intended addressee only. 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EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:03:20 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIa61-0004Xe-P7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:03:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIa61-0004XA-Ka for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:03:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIa5H-00025Y-40 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:02:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIa5G-00025P-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:02:30 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIabj-0002eG-D2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:36:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 8969 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 23:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.11.209 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 23:02:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c5bfc9$b463d3a0$d10b7ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5b9f2$d48dbc90$e6a4c593@RD40002> <000c01c5bfc1$f5271620$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:01:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: ZM2E LF DX attempts 4 - 6 October Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Bob , my best wishes for your tests. Conditions do seem to be improving at the moment and if there are no more disturbances you should have hit a good spot. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernall" To: Sent: 22 September 2005 23:05 Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX attempts 4 - 6 October > To all reflector readers, > > Plans are for ZM2E at Quartz Hill to try for two way contacts with VA7LF and > RU6LA from Tuesday 4 October. This time we are making a "mid week" booking > of the club station so we avoid times of HF contests (the Oceania contest is > the weekend before, ZL6QH will be active for that contest). We are > preparing to operate on Wednesday and Thursday nights if that is needed to > advance or complete a QSO. > > ZM2E plans to once again use FSK with nominal frequencies 137.7890/137.7886 > kHz. Likely VA7LF and RU6LA will use similar or same frequency so that > others can monitor possible proceedings without needing to retune. > > A more detailed announcement will be made nearer to the time. > > 73, Bob ZL2CA > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:07:48 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIZEK-0006WV-1W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:07:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIZEJ-0006W6-TO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:07:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIZDq-0001yH-RV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:07:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIZDq-0001y8-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:07:18 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIZkH-0002U1-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:40:56 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050922220656.ETWP1611.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:06:56 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.113.251]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050922220656.UUDH5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:06:56 +1200 Message-ID: <000c01c5bfc1$f5271620$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5b9f2$d48dbc90$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:05:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: ZM2E LF DX attempts 4 - 6 October Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) To all reflector readers, Plans are for ZM2E at Quartz Hill to try for two way contacts with VA7LF and RU6LA from Tuesday 4 October. This time we are making a "mid week" booking of the club station so we avoid times of HF contests (the Oceania contest is the weekend before, ZL6QH will be active for that contest). We are preparing to operate on Wednesday and Thursday nights if that is needed to advance or complete a QSO. ZM2E plans to once again use FSK with nominal frequencies 137.7890/137.7886 kHz. Likely VA7LF and RU6LA will use similar or same frequency so that others can monitor possible proceedings without needing to retune. A more detailed announcement will be made nearer to the time. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:13:55 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIXS4-00015L-EE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:13:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIXS4-00014T-9w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:13:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIXQO-0001nO-0F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:12:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIXQN-0001nF-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:12:07 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIY9q-0007UP-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:59:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 64091 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 20:11:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.155.220 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 20:11:57 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:12:23 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: LF: RE: DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi, Chris. I use the program "QRS v4.02" from ON7YD to send both QRSS amd DFCW. It's very easy to use and configure, and you can do useful things like alter the inter-character spacings, flip DFCW mark and space, etc. You need to build a 1-transistor interface/level shifter to key the transmitter, but the circuit is contained in the "Help" documentation that comes with the program. http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/software_main.htm If you can't get enough swing with a vari-cap, you can use a 1N918 or 1N4148 Si diode as a switch, and use it to switch a trimmer capacitor across the crystal. I use a crystal in the 3MHz range in a Colpitts configuration, and the DFCW control signal switches a 3-30 pF trimmer across the crystal. For DFCW3 speeds, about 3 or 4 Hz shift is all you need. If you go to DFCW10 or longer, you need only about 1 Hz or less shift. The convention seems to be that the dash is the higher frequency. 73 Dave G3WCB IO1RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of OSBORN, Chris Sent: 22 September 2005 13:57 To: LF Group (E-mail) Subject: LF: DFCW My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option of DFCW. I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the crystal and thus pulling the frequency for achieving the dots / dashes. Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve this ? 73 Chris G3XIZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:31:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EITyX-0006no-Oo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:31:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EITyX-0006nW-Im for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:31:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EITyI-0001U5-Pi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EITyI-0001Tw-29 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:54 +0100 Received: from [194.203.13.70] (helo=viruswall.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIUUe-0000QV-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:04:26 +0100 Received: from mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp ([194.35.68.222]) by viruswall.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:38 +0100 Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Subject: LF: RE: Re: DFCW (2...with cct) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Many thanks for the rapid and informative response Alan. I'd just drawn out the circuit you described then found the attachment later - doh ! The drawings were the same so your description was fine. I've just printed them out and will further digest the info. on my train journey home. I am using a Clapp type xtal oscillator running at 2730 kHz nom. (CW) and 2754 nom. (QRSS). I then divide the oscillator frequency by ten and then by two: 136.5 nom. and 137.7 nom. I'm switching the xtals and have a series of trimmers in series with each one for discrete frequencies. I may make one of the trimmers 'front panel mounted' for versatility. I use 'cwget' for my present QRSS activity, this set to a speed of '2' which is about right for QRSS3. I've just received your later drawing - many thanks. The new TX/RX has been under construction for many months as you know but is nearing switch on. The receiver seems ok but there aren't too many stations to listen to at present. It has a 1400 kHz xtal filter with 750 Hz bandwidth. I managed to obtain one of those semiconductor RF design books that you recommended and am slowly plodding my way through it! The TX is finished up to the driver stage so maybe this weekend I may be able to stick some RF into the long wire ! No doubt your house lights will dim when I key down - HI! 73 Chris G3XIZ -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 September 2005 04:33:PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: DFCW (2...with cct) Chris That is the hardware side You will find some software I think you already use maybe has a sitable out put ?? QRSS from Rik Strobbe. One modem line to PTT and one to indicated dots or dashes. This is a 0 to 5v signal which will probably work with the circuit attached. I suggest try it before going to the trouble of shifting the levels to avoid 0v as I suggested earlier. The cap (trimmer) will probably need to be very small. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 22 September 2005 13:56 Subject: LF: DFCW > > > My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option > of DFCW. > > I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the > crystal and thus pulling the frequency > for achieving the dots / dashes. > > Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve > this ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:43 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EITlX-0001nG-6T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EITlX-0001mh-2A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EITku-0001Om-BG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EITkt-0001Od-OO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:03 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIUUI-0006T8-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:03:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 39091 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 16:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.202.184 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 16:16:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c5bf91$0caaa400$b8ca8351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001401c5bf87$516cc460$b2098351@Main> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:16:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DFCW (right diag....) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010603090107030201000807" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010603090107030201000807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Chris ....more haste less speed..... I dug out the version for the Colpits osc. this is the logic osc. 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Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:35:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIT6W-0000LF-J0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:35:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIT5l-0001H0-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:34:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIT5l-0001Gr-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:34:33 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EITcB-0008Ud-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:08:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 30294 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 15:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.181.194 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 15:34:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c5bf8b$198f2ca0$c2b57ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:32:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: DFCW (2...with cct) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090607070604000704070602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090607070604000704070602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris That is the hardware side You will find some software I think you already use maybe has a sitable out put ?? QRSS from Rik Strobbe. One modem line to PTT and one to indicated dots or dashes. This is a 0 to 5v signal which will probably work with the circuit attached. I suggest try it before going to the trouble of shifting the levels to avoid 0v as I suggested earlier. The cap (trimmer) will probably need to be very small. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 22 September 2005 13:56 Subject: LF: DFCW > > > My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option > of DFCW. > > I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the > crystal and thus pulling the frequency > for achieving the dots / dashes. > > Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve > this ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > --------------090607070604000704070602 Content-Type: image/gif; name="DFCW.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="DFCW.gif" R0lGODdhhAEjAYAAAAAAAP///ywAAAAAhAEjAQAC/oyPqcvtD6OctNqLs968+w+G4kiW5omm 6sq27gvH8kzX9o3n+s73/g8MCofEovGITCqXzKbzCY1Kp9Sq9YrNarfcrvcLDovH5LL5jE6r 1+y2+w2Py+f0uv2Oz+v3/L7/DxgoOAgDYGgoceigGMBYcgiJmBAZqVCJ4HiQabD5CNnwiRmq OUrZadpJkpqIynAZ9Pqwyik564EqSdqqS6k7OUoLAHq7y1v62hts+lt8Icz67Iy7EPtTDZpL nY2Cm91tnNzoDTy7jdEdLf7sGN7+DQ5cYY6dLv8uaoujmB+8OO9ZL5MtcowEEqzna0O8UAbX Icr1EOK2hh/4JZSWbmFE/oQ79v37tAlkrZEO54nk2A9ftHKnVkoUxs5ktWvMOL7E10+iuosp e0KLeZLZTpUQQk7cCAtpTXe7Ck6DxxIhUHpFb061hKyZ0KoZSYojNTSsT4tQlSn1BZQmT40w /+m7iVPZRYYkXcJVh1Jsz6d6XXl1mteoXapc43psixhqw3BYu5aMO/TqwHthyca46jPy0cd6 AW/VJvUl0wiH0bqlCPkzXs8JS5c2O1NratWSvfJcGntwD8G3Wbe2/TvgaXNps+bFOTXq7FWL fWt2+LXyssaMcTeGDJcybt6z3/LlDh54Su6gr2fuXj75cMeqU09H7TQ65pbHqR8Tnng8X/P0 /mTfQNebeM9l5lxft0kXWEtLWecXe+idN2BwZu0lWns/CfhahNDIot1/6HAmoWEYjpggfg/K xYtK+LklFnnU1TSWbZdg1hmLhfUVkYgOltfffh7adNd9KWpIoV0lNjOZj7mxSF4+H4b4HHAu WgYfcQdByWODWXqX5T3vFFicWqvlxuF0RL3Yo2JcmTlmkG6aeKA/TI2DWpvHJbmlDcqlKFh+ YNJ5ln2pWKRWPCj2t+AEYrI1112N1icojMttBumeeeJhGSFCZKopB4t16gSnoI5Kaqmmnopq qqquymqrrr4Ka6yyzkprrbbeimuuuu7Ka6++/gpssMIOS2yxxh6L/myyyi7LbLPOPgtttNJO S2211l6Lbbbabsttt95+C2644o5LbrnmnotuurSKSgtpkPq1m43qcimNu+e8+4K883oYnT32 RqHvvjXk2K5OBrv0S7t4KfzVSP02LJwmYC3cb10o3tfWTgELrFDGOT3msE6iyAfdwR8XfJR+ jYBlMskKO/yxxxyrgrDLNoccmsg4vwydzSN7dCbBMA/d8834zlwvz0ob/fChyQjdM9FYrSwz 1CTTtbTORSMdwntRf43y1DD/DDbTMGLt8tgTS5310VwrGjHQGhc9qMdjx9S2gRnerXXeFZf9 dkVxV014nETTuTbdMo/M8Gpr4e10zWoH/m6ClWV27PbElKthuT+eul3z5ml0DlrmksK9seiq r856666/Dnvsss9Oe+2234577rrvznvvvv8OfPDCD0+876nHUTdg9VXH+vFvbN345AnT7nwb w03PpOlIV8/GemwT3DTs3K9xzc5X+yz7+JxDT7bfzK+u/ujss1y29K/Hj8bh7ZuNv7r9mzE5 8/1lfq77X9eMpLlD5St5CAxb42JnQMHVrysPLEIEOXbBz32PguEjQgb39UEN2G2C9htCCP2n PW5MEGIVLJ4PTihCEgLOhUCAYQY2yDYa1jCFJ9ggCzuoQx3Y8F55s1oQrcHDyjUwbew6YguG 6ET5RXFUHZpi/h9QkkQrds8VWgwEFrsIiC/mIYvG4yKmyNg7MdphHC0snhoH9qEnpWBGBCTe G9vIDYXMEWR1HN4bDaWCLKLRHvGhXIUeCEhLmPF9c9TjAvuIwhUmrigNiqMlL+kjC2Byk5zs ZLjQprYSYqKSnSwlgGJoylSqEoq8GmHbRCkxasCmEI78FzEU6Dlx+dCIizAjLlcgSLiBoC7y YmWvcDhDX05iavmqZVWG+bXlDTJZyFxaL2X5o1QKU3AMSyQQt7VLV8pCmVyIYAA/Mk1khRN9 5IylF4wJRHju6pBM1NcdtyBPbOjunlrIJ7xyx88s+FMb+2xnP9MZw4Ji850IvWFD/tNVRYE+ NGm8G+hb9DTReVmUX3A0XkZN+FEKbLRbI+2oSSsa0qRg1KNkKCkea+fSGcQ0ptmi6WVSygqW jmGmODWXTQvR02emMajxWulQW0rUXKIUqUZd6k6Tqs+jPrWpu/vpAqm6T6gKUasElaoYeKrT r3KVmU4VK1YBOlaO0sCq1WLrE9PKuLKGAaxenStcE5hVhsrRBW6dVl8Bckq+3hWcg5WBN1nw 12glVoUuXeyzHAtYeHLSdpCl2WFFMFmYFvaRYgKjQ+3KSM9+9gsRlaApZ1fZA/pnmCJE7WYR G9gRJPG1zEotMfaK2damb6JZyWXA1GfM2bpWtpK7EyTx/uqvQOoWgg+tnvOAG1Th7pa4oSEo 39hIT6HuUZvTpS4HySZJpcAyrqKFJmCR60P+Hfel5SWiEtmXXmT+FqqZpV5KpRdfSYqUvpuk bHOLK7b8aoa9yAVqWFUrsoRdl4LZ5dBZcWdb4j74dhHGbGErrE7aXvWkVdWwYCfsX6ZyOK9T HTFaRbxWD1MLw+Y1MYRVDFsQaxbFMoWxtFjMTRdT2MaBvDCPoYXjW+o4xCVO8YHBQFe5ItnH RyYtk+u6ZBnbl8aG/fFjrdzDJyvZyVIebpFr3GSGdrm7Zh3yjL9c5TB3IckdpvJN1VxOLbcZ zW/26yrvjOc863nPfO6vnfsMpehAC3rQhL4sGIPcXh4gOtFbZbQXsezoTUE60juktB8WbWkj Z7oOltw0HOLoaeSxKdTPGzWp3RDaU6/P0Ko+A6tb7WpMw3rWtK61rW+N61zrete87rWvfw3s YAt72MQutrGPjexkK3vZzG62s58N7WhLe9rUrra1r43tbGt729zutre/De5wi3vc5C63uc+N 7nSre93sbre73w3veMt73vSud68KAAA7 --------------090607070604000704070602-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:15 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EISgI-0007rI-N2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EISgI-0007qW-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:08:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EISfU-0001BD-3P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:07:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EISfT-0001B4-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:07:23 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EITBt-0008NQ-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:40:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 20026 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2005 15:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.9.178 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2005 15:07:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c5bf87$516cc460$b2098351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:06:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Chris, yes this is possible, and it all depends on what crystal oscillator you are using. You may find that the "logic inverter" style circuit is not quite stable enough for very slow DFCW but is certainly OK at 3 and probably 10 second elements. One beauty of visual decode is thatit doesnt matter too much if it drifts....it may insense the purists (like me .... :-)) but if it stays on screen you can read it. You must try to avoid chirp though....often due to RF getting back into the keying leads. I sent FSK RTTY in the "Good Old Days" on 2m and 70cms with this technique just FMing the crystal before multiplication to get 170Hz shift. STOP tittering 'YKB !! Lets assume you have a logic osc as Dave used in the original amp (I think) Take the crystal pin that is connected to an "input" and connect a silicon diode cathode to a 50pF trimmer the other terminal of which is connected to the crystal. The anode of the diode is connected to ground. Apply bias an signal to the diode from the slider of a 10k pot and through a 10k resistor. Decouple the top of the pot well. The trimmer should be set to the minimum value that will give the required shift. The pot will give a fine control. It is probably advisable not to apply a ground (0v) as one signal element. I would suggest a signal swinging between about +2 and +5 volts. (the higher the voltage the smaller the capacity.) The reason for this is that the capacity of the diode changes most around zero volts bias. You will probably find that any small-signal silicon diode works 1N4148, 1N916 etc...... dont use a 1N400x power diode they have too much capacity (bigger area junction to carry the current). If you use a mixer osc using two high frequency crstals you only need to FM one of them. But be careful of element inversion. (I think the protocol is Highest Frequency is "Dash" ) I find that inter-element spacing is not essential, but some find it easier to read. The gap can be sub-dot length as this give a "glitch" on the received copy....allowing an element count to be done, and also characterising the signal ....not everybodies element length or "weight" are the same, and it can be useful in identifying a signal, just as one can audibly. You will have to play with the values to get the right shift, then you may be able to rplace the trimmer with a fixed small cap 50pF max may be too big as the min is around 6 pF. Set it at min an just key the osc into the rx and set up on ARGO. If the above circuit description is noy clear I will knock up a graphic for you. Best of luck, I look forward to having my front end blocked by your signal Chris. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Sent: 22 September 2005 13:56 Subject: LF: DFCW > > > My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option > of DFCW. > > I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the > crystal and thus pulling the frequency > for achieving the dots / dashes. > > Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve > this ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:57:57 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIQeC-00009K-3y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:57:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIQeB-000097-W4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:57:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIQdB-0000yg-D8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:56:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIQdB-0000yX-2l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:56:53 +0100 Received: from mail-out.astrium.eads.net ([80.156.47.35] helo=ffwfilter1.astrium.eads.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIR9W-0007YW-Pf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:30:22 +0100 Received: from exdssfdh00.south.de.astrium.corp ([53.141.160.8]) by ffwfilter1.astrium.eads.net with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:00:22 +0200 Received: by exdssfdh00.south.de.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:56:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: "OSBORN, Chris" To: "LF Group (E-mail)" Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:56:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Subject: LF: DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit My new LF TX is nearly finished and I would like to add the option of DFCW. I was thinking of just placing a varicap diode in parallel with the crystal and thus pulling the frequency for achieving the dots / dashes. Can someone direct me to a circuit diagram and software to achieve this ? 73 Chris G3XIZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:07:14 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIAs5-0005E8-Um for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:07:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EIAs5-0005Du-QG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:07:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EIAqH-0008GW-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:05:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EIAqH-0008GN-14 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:05:21 +0100 Received: from bay102-f41.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.51] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EIBMJ-0001kA-Rp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:38:34 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:05:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000301c5bed5$17d0d280$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:05:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2005 20:05:07.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[C37DC6D0:01C5BEE7] Subject: RE: LF: Re: XDW Wolf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit thanks Lloyd - the signal is definately getting autumnal, unlike our weather....I suppose we are going to get wet and windy a bit from "Rita" late this weekend/ Monday which will cool things down for a day or so. Laurence KL1X/5 >From: "chastant" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: Re: XDW Wolf >Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:50:51 -0400 > >Laurence, here is a mid-day copy hr in Maryland >de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH > >2005-09-21 16:30:24 >WOLF -r 8000 -f 422 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f: 0.261 a:-0.4 dp: 65.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 ZF7 NMWD9C5WFIQ ? >t: 48 f: 0.975 a:-0.8 dp: 60.0 ci: 0 cj: 0 *O1 MZ68TZHV4 N ? >t: 96 f:-0.757 a:-0.2 dp: 60.2 ci: 0 cj:260 D4Z/WFL/3M0 OI3 ? >t: 192 f: 0.488 pm:1.170 jm:229 q:-12.9 -7.8 GI5 CZJIEFV8IRZ ? >t: 288 f: 0.186 pm:2.798 jm:242 q: -3.8 -4.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 384 f: 0.186 pm:3.882 jm:242 q: -1.9 -2.2 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:5.701 jm:242 q: -1.2 -1.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 576 f: 0.186 pm:6.985 jm:242 q: -0.3 -0.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 672 f: 0.186 pm:7.756 jm:242 q: 0.5 -0.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 768 f: 0.186 pm:8.744 jm:242 q: 1.1 -0.1 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 864 f: 0.186 pm:9.253 jm:242 q: 1.2 0.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t: 960 f: 0.186 pm:9.578 jm:242 q: 2.0 1.0 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1056 f: 0.186 pm:10.14 jm:242 q: 2.3 1.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1152 f: 0.186 pm:10.18 jm:242 q: 2.5 1.6 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1248 f: 0.186 pm:10.99 jm:241 q: 2.8 1.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1344 f: 0.186 pm:11.81 jm:241 q: 3.0 1.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1440 f: 0.186 pm:12.25 jm:241 q: 3.1 2.1 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1536 f: 0.186 pm:12.42 jm:241 q: 3.4 2.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1632 f: 0.186 pm:12.89 jm:241 q: 3.4 2.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1728 f: 0.186 pm:13.61 jm:241 q: 3.7 2.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1824 f: 0.186 pm:14.10 jm:241 q: 4.0 2.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:1920 f: 0.186 pm:14.71 jm:241 q: 4.2 3.0 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2016 f: 0.186 pm:14.92 jm:241 q: 4.4 3.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2112 f: 0.186 pm:15.16 jm:241 q: 4.6 3.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2208 f: 0.186 pm:15.26 jm:241 q: 4.8 3.6 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2304 f: 0.186 pm:15.40 jm:241 q: 4.9 3.8 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2400 f: 0.186 pm:15.43 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2496 f: 0.186 pm:15.68 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2592 f: 0.186 pm:15.69 jm:241 q: 4.8 3.5 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >t:2688 f: 0.186 pm:15.70 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - >----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" > >To: >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:34 AM >Subject: LF: XDW Wolf > > >> >>The airlines and INS were kind.. >> >>WD2XDW caame on at 0300Z 21st WOLF on 137.422 till 0900Z (couldnt sleep), >>then Jason Slow 137.7752 until 1230Z - >> >>Today and tonight >> >>Ill run it on WOLF on 137.422 KHz thru the day and overnight till advised >> >>It must be the end of the summer the plastic swimming pool has >>collapsed.... >> >>Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq bartlesville ok >>Decca 5501 1Kw Loop awry "array" >>fog/mist 66F -blue skies above >> >> > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:53:06 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI8mI-0000hB-2W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:53:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI8mH-0000dt-UU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:53:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EI8kq-00082f-8L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:51:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EI8kp-00082W-O2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:51:35 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EI9Gs-0000sQ-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:24:46 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-61.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.61]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA14695 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:51:30 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c5bed5$17d0d280$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:50:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: XDW Wolf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Laurence, here is a mid-day copy hr in Maryland de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH 2005-09-21 16:30:24 >WOLF -r 8000 -f 422 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.261 a:-0.4 dp: 65.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 ZF7 NMWD9C5WFIQ ? t: 48 f: 0.975 a:-0.8 dp: 60.0 ci: 0 cj: 0 *O1 MZ68TZHV4 N ? t: 96 f:-0.757 a:-0.2 dp: 60.2 ci: 0 cj:260 D4Z/WFL/3M0 OI3 ? t: 192 f: 0.488 pm:1.170 jm:229 q:-12.9 -7.8 GI5 CZJIEFV8IRZ ? t: 288 f: 0.186 pm:2.798 jm:242 q: -3.8 -4.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 384 f: 0.186 pm:3.882 jm:242 q: -1.9 -2.2 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 480 f: 0.186 pm:5.701 jm:242 q: -1.2 -1.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 576 f: 0.186 pm:6.985 jm:242 q: -0.3 -0.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 672 f: 0.186 pm:7.756 jm:242 q: 0.5 -0.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 768 f: 0.186 pm:8.744 jm:242 q: 1.1 -0.1 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 864 f: 0.186 pm:9.253 jm:242 q: 1.2 0.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t: 960 f: 0.186 pm:9.578 jm:242 q: 2.0 1.0 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1056 f: 0.186 pm:10.14 jm:242 q: 2.3 1.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1152 f: 0.186 pm:10.18 jm:242 q: 2.5 1.6 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1248 f: 0.186 pm:10.99 jm:241 q: 2.8 1.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1344 f: 0.186 pm:11.81 jm:241 q: 3.0 1.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1440 f: 0.186 pm:12.25 jm:241 q: 3.1 2.1 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1536 f: 0.186 pm:12.42 jm:241 q: 3.4 2.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1632 f: 0.186 pm:12.89 jm:241 q: 3.4 2.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1728 f: 0.186 pm:13.61 jm:241 q: 3.7 2.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1824 f: 0.186 pm:14.10 jm:241 q: 4.0 2.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:1920 f: 0.186 pm:14.71 jm:241 q: 4.2 3.0 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2016 f: 0.186 pm:14.92 jm:241 q: 4.4 3.3 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2112 f: 0.186 pm:15.16 jm:241 q: 4.6 3.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2208 f: 0.186 pm:15.26 jm:241 q: 4.8 3.6 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2304 f: 0.186 pm:15.40 jm:241 q: 4.9 3.8 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2400 f: 0.186 pm:15.43 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.9 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2496 f: 0.186 pm:15.68 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.7 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2592 f: 0.186 pm:15.69 jm:241 q: 4.8 3.5 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - t:2688 f: 0.186 pm:15.70 jm:241 q: 4.7 3.4 WD2XDW EM26 DAY - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: LF: XDW Wolf > > The airlines and INS were kind.. > > WD2XDW caame on at 0300Z 21st WOLF on 137.422 till 0900Z (couldnt sleep), > then Jason Slow 137.7752 until 1230Z - > > Today and tonight > > Ill run it on WOLF on 137.422 KHz thru the day and overnight till advised > > It must be the end of the summer the plastic swimming pool has > collapsed.... > > Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq bartlesville ok > Decca 5501 1Kw Loop awry "array" > fog/mist 66F -blue skies above > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:23 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI3oo-0004Kk-Pk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EI3oo-0004K7-I1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:35:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EI3nq-0007dm-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EI3np-0007dd-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:21 +0100 Received: from bay102-f42.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.52] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EI4WZ-0007aS-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:20:42 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:34:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:34:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:34:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2005 12:34:07.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[C254D5D0:01C5BEA8] Subject: LF: XDW Wolf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit The airlines and INS were kind.. WD2XDW caame on at 0300Z 21st WOLF on 137.422 till 0900Z (couldnt sleep), then Jason Slow 137.7752 until 1230Z - Today and tonight Ill run it on WOLF on 137.422 KHz thru the day and overnight till advised It must be the end of the summer the plastic swimming pool has collapsed.... Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq bartlesville ok Decca 5501 1Kw Loop awry "array" fog/mist 66F -blue skies above From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:46:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHjOV-0001Zs-5X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:46:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHjOV-0001ZY-2c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:46:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EHjNF-0005wq-8L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:45:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EHjNE-0005wh-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:45:32 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EHjsk-0008IM-CM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:18:17 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EHjN1-0005Hb-00; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:45:19 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GQcBrcZ-oeZI7XzLPMLONd2fFTkZ0LUQjf6KcX-e7NTb34i9+RNaYd@[84.133.62.163]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EHjMr-1QILeC0; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:45:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:45:06 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <25822249.20050920164506@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GQcBrcZ-oeZI7XzLPMLONd2fFTkZ0LUQjf6KcX-e7NTb34i9+RNaYd X-TOI-MSGID: 7c21b1af-e30d-45d6-9a3b-b918a6c58a08 Subject: LF: TA Sep, 19/20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) It seems TA conditions are improving now. Weak copy of VO1NA, WD2XES and WD2XGJ during local dawn this morning. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:35:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHLo2-0006gJ-LA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:35:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHLo2-0006fx-DU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:35:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EHLmr-0004RW-QV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:34:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EHLmr-0004RN-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:34:25 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EHMUg-0004Hj-L5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:19:47 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-138.fen-net.de [212.204.117.18]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j8JDS950027858 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:28:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001d01c5bd20$de8ccde0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:48:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear friends,
          the beacon on 440.044KHz is back on air.
73    Walter    DJ2LF
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:54:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHDfO-00089y-U3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:54:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EHDfO-00088D-Pi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:54:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EHDe0-0003va-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:52:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EHDdz-0003vR-F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:52:43 +0100 Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EHE95-00047n-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:24:55 +0100 Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050919045233.GYHK10357.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:52:33 +0100 Received: from p2300 ([80.1.84.4]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050919045232.NKT6183.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@p2300> for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:52:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c5bcd6$56710d80$04540150@p2300> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <54.4cba2ff1.305f4b33@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:55:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: LF: UNID TEST Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
the most useful feature of airwick gatport is..........it has a branch of banclays barc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: LF: UNID TEST

Lawrence, It does my old heart the world of good to know that there are still those who refer to well-known locations by their "well-kent" synonyms.
Heathport Airow, Stanford Airsted, Paris Charles de Gallstones, et al !
 
Sorry, off topic but life is sweeter with a bit of humour
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:01:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EH89c-000615-Hw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:01:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EH89c-00060x-2H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:01:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EH87x-0003UA-Tz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:59:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EH87x-0003U1-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:59:17 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EH8pW-0000UX-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:44:21 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id l.54.4cba2ff1 (57317) for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:58:59 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: <54.4cba2ff1.305f4b33@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:58:59 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5014 Subject: Re: LF: UNID TEST Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Lawrence, It does my old heart the world of good to know that there are still those who refer to well-known locations by their "well-kent" synonyms.
Heathport Airow, Stanford Airsted, Paris Charles de Gallstones, et al !
 
Sorry, off topic but life is sweeter with a bit of humour
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:47:14 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EH4By-0005Af-EW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:47:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EH4By-0005AU-B5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:47:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EH4AT-00037u-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:45:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EH4AT-00037l-7J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:45:37 +0100 Received: from bay102-f3.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.13] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EH4fR-0001DH-Bp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:17:39 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:45:26 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:45:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <1413205362.20050914215625@t-online.de> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:45:26 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2005 18:45:26.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[22C276E0:01C5BC81] Subject: RE: LF: UNID TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit The one on the left looks like a destroyer and the one on the right a frigate... Ive been away from LF radiation too long... Laurence KL1X/5 5 miles East of Gatport airwick UK >From: Hartmut Wolff >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: UNID TEST >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:56:25 +0200 > >Anybody claim the attached. Captured near 137.680 kHz > >73 >Hartmut Wolff >Locator:JO52ho >www.h-wolff.de ><< UNIDTEST-050914-1925.jpg >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:34:20 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EGZ5P-0008A8-RX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:34:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EGZ5P-00089q-O2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:34:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EGZ4j-0000ER-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:33:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EGZ4i-0000EI-Kc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:33:36 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EGZZB-0002JS-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:05:06 +0100 Received: from [212.248.140.34] ([212.248.140.34]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j8H9YjIV010202 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:34:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.11.1]); Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:33:44 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c5bb6a$e59c9960$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5b9f2$d48dbc90$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:33:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: : Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks for your responses to this. I reduced the burden resistor to 440 ohms (for 0.1V/A) and got adequate linearity (with only 1V across the 240V secondary ! ) and have now managed to capture the voltage and current waveforms needed for the analysis. It really was a nasty little transformer. Next time I need to monitor mains current waveform will go the optical isolator route instead. They can give quite good linearity if used with care and a bit of feedback. Andy G4JNT -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 2005-09-16 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:49:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EGJOc-0000Gp-Fd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:49:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EGJOc-0000G5-AU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:49:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EGJNC-0007AC-Gm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:47:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EGJNB-0007A3-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:47:37 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EGK3f-0006kW-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:31:33 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3208.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5406E7400086 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:47:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3201 (wwinf3201 [172.22.156.28]) by mwinf3208.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E42B7400083 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:47:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050916164729320.4E42B7400083@mwinf3208.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <29196896.1126889249308.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.79.61] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:47:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: RE: LF: Re: can you help ? 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Message Received: Sep 15 2005, 08:27 PM
From: "captbrian"
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc:
Subject: LF: Re: can you help ?

What date and time is the talk ?
 
Bryan G3GVB  - Brighton
 
 
Hi Bryan, HFC 2005 is held Fri 7 to Sun 9th October. My talk is on Saturday at 11:45 to 12:30 in the Wentworth Suite.
Hope to see you there  73 Laurie.
 
 
 
- Original Message -----
To: RSGB
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: LF: can you help ?

Many thanks to all those who replied to my request. I think the G3YXM website has the picture I remember but the others are also of great interest.

73 Laurie

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:07:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EG3lA-0000Hu-I8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:07:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EG3lA-0000Hk-DH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:07:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EG3kS-0006Fl-Jt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:06:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EG3kS-0006Fc-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:06:36 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EG4EK-00079I-9U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:37:33 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8G04DgT002317 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:04:14 -0400 Received: from server (dial-18.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.18]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j8G065bH028798 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ba01c5ba49$d8a99ae0$b24afea9@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:02:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Wire choice for tx loop Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello LFers,
 
Would I be correct in thinking that eight paralleled 22 gauge wires,
each separately insulated, would be a better choice than a single
10 gauge wire for a transmit loop?  The current capability at D.C.
or less than a few kilohertz is about the same, but the skin effect
should come into the picture at the frequencies we're using, and
hence make the 8 x 22 a better choice.  It's jacketed telephone
"house" wire and I've been given a huge roll of it.
 
73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
EN93dr
 
 
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What date and time is the talk ?
 
Bryan G3GVB  - Brighton
 
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Many thanks to all those who replied to my request. I think the G3YXM website has the picture I remember but the others are also of great interest.

73 Laurie

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Many thanks to all those who replied to my request. I think the G3YXM website has the picture I remember but the others are also of great interest.

73 Laurie

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:00:06 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFy1m-00049K-DP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:00:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFy1m-00049A-4A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:00:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFy1N-0005gp-7k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:59:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFy1M-0005gg-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:59:40 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.27]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFyhK-0000vi-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:43:07 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8FHxXmJ001542 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:59:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4329B687.90505@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:59:35 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> In-Reply-To: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> X-Antivirus: avast! 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I would like to include it my talk at the HFC. > 73 Laurie. 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Is this the one Laurie?
 
 
 
Steve / VE7SL
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:59:13 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFvCg-0006g3-Q5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:59:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFvCg-0006fj-MA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:59:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFvCJ-0005IP-1Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:58:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFvCI-0005IG-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:58:46 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFvg1-00044i-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:29:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 22700 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2005 14:58:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2005 14:58:27 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c5ba06$1e2e7b60$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:59:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: Can you help ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Laurie, One other that I do have here -- it's the reverse direction, but it does show four North American stations as received at CT1DRP: http://www.w1tag.com/files/4_by_DRP.jpg John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:53:03 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFv6k-0006vR-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:53:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore18.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFv6k-0006uy-LC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:53:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFv68-0005Di-5I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:52:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFv67-0005DZ-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:52:23 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFvm1-0008VA-GI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:35:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 55879 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2005 14:52:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.181.176 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2005 14:52:09 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01c5ba04$ee6725e0$b0b57ad5@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:46:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Can you help ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Lauie I have a feeling that is most likely to be a screen from someone like Markus, or Ko in Europe. Have you tried looking on Mike Dennison's site he collects things like that. See you at HFC Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC" To: "RSGB" Sent: 15 September 2005 12:56 Subject: LF: Can you help ? > I am looking for an ARGO image which was on this reflector some years ago. It showed about 8 stations on a single QRSS screen,including G3AQC, we were all attempting a Trans-atlantic crossing. Does this image still exist, and where can I find it ? I would like to include it my talk at the HFC. > 73 Laurie. 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  "Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC" <laurie@g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk> schrieb:

I am looking for an ARGO image which was on this reflector some years ago. It showed about 8 stations on a single QRSS screen,including G3AQC, we were all attempting a Trans-atlantic crossing. Does this image still exist, and where can I find it ? I would like to include it my talk at the HFC.

73 Laurie.  

Hi Laurie,
have a look at
 
 
pics taken 2001.
 
regards
Uwe/dj8wx
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFu0M-0000iu-Dh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFu0M-0000ib-5T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFu0C-00050N-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFu0B-00050E-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:42:11 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFug4-00088U-I2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:25:33 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005091513415401400abpd2e>; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c5b9fc$b94178a0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> <000501c5b9f4$261f9550$8d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:52:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Can you help ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Laurie
 
Another Argo to consider...the 'decipher' on w3eee home page...
 
Jay, W1VD
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Can you help ?

Laurie,

>I am looking for an ARGO image which was on this reflector some years ago.
It showed about 8 stations on a single QRSS screen,including G3AQC, we were
all attempting a Trans-atlantic crossing. <

The closest I can come while at work is 3 stations as received at my QTH:
you, Peter and Brian:
http://www.w1tag.com/files/031103.jpg

Although it doesn't show TA activity, W3NF made this shot of 7 U.S. Lowfer
beacons near 185.300:
http://www.w1tag.com/files/185.3_12-11.jpg

I will look through my files at home tonight, as I also have some research
to do for Andy.

John A.


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:50:25 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFtC2-0002s7-6e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:50:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFtC1-0002qS-W5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:50:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFtBq-0004sU-Vm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:50:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFtBq-0004sL-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:50:10 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFtfU-00038V-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:20:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 14148 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2005 12:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2005 12:49:50 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c5b9f4$261f9550$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6442528.1126785401400.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:51:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: Can you help ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Laurie, >I am looking for an ARGO image which was on this reflector some years ago. It showed about 8 stations on a single QRSS screen,including G3AQC, we were all attempting a Trans-atlantic crossing. < The closest I can come while at work is 3 stations as received at my QTH: you, Peter and Brian: http://www.w1tag.com/files/031103.jpg Although it doesn't show TA activity, W3NF made this shot of 7 U.S. Lowfer beacons near 185.300: http://www.w1tag.com/files/185.3_12-11.jpg I will look through my files at home tonight, as I also have some research to do for Andy. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:43:14 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFt57-0007Pi-D7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:43:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFt57-0007PW-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:43:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFt3r-0004nc-EV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFt3q-0004nT-Qq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:54 +0100 Received: from tucana.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.215.113]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFtXa-00035X-Ps for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:12:41 +0100 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by tucana.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1EFt3h-00038U-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:45 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c5b9f2$d48dbc90$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-UH-MailScanner-Information: UH-mail X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: RE: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear Andy, LF Group, I believe steel has a B/H curve that is curved at low flux densities as well as high, so you may not need to have much flux to get non-linear effects. But the point is that, provided the current transformer secondary (240V primary in this case) has much higher impedance than the "burden" load resistor, the magnetising current will only be a small fraction of the total current flowing in the load, and so non-linear effects will only cause small errors. Out of curiosity, I measured the primary impedance of some small mains transformers around 6VA lying about at work - they seemed to fall into 2 categories, ones with L > 100H and impedance at 50Hz of several 10s of K or more, and others with L of only 10 - 20H. I've no idea why they should be so different - visually they were very similar, and the DC resistances were similar at several hundred ohms. The impedance of the latter group is only kilohms, so you could expect large errors if your current transformer with 4k load falls into this category. I suppose using a much smaller burden resistor would help, possibly with more primary turns to maintain the scale factor. Another thing is that the windings become parallel resonant somewhere in the kHz range, so I doubt if the bandwidth would be very good if you are expecting very spiky current waveforms. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 14 September 2005 12:47 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Can anyone help with this knotty annoying problem... I wanted to make a 50Hz current transformer (CT) to measure the input current waveform to a SMPSU. I took a small cheap transformer from a wall mounted PSU of about 6VA rating, and stripped off all the secondary winding replacing this with one turn of thick wire to form the primary of teh CT. The old 240V winding had a DC resistance of around 1k, but this should ( ??) be irrelevant to CT operation... 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I am looking for an ARGO image which was on this reflector some years ago. It showed about 8 stations on a single QRSS screen,including G3AQC, we were all attempting a Trans-atlantic crossing. Does this image still exist, and where can I find it ? I would like to include it my talk at the HFC.

73 Laurie.  

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Received: from mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFdii-0006b2-7T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:19:08 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050914194820.UURM28153.mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:48:20 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.113.251]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050914194820.QOMP5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:48:20 +1200 Message-ID: <001001c5b965$432b6500$e801a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:48:19 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Andy G4JNT, Having a "bend" in the transfer characteristic that changes with level certainly means some non-linearity. If you look at spectra (in the frequency domain) instead of RMS level (in the time domain), you may observe what harmonics grow as the level is increased (assuming things get worse with drive level). That would be one way to evaluate nonlinearity, but as you want to use it for measurements then it would be irritating to need to correct for self-distortion in the probe. One possible explanation is that magnetostriction dynamically modulates the (micro) air gaps between EI laminations? Current transformers I have seen are invariably of toroidal construction. That suggests that leakage reactance is part of the quality of making a good current transformer, but leakage is "linear" and that alone would not explain why you have a "bend" in the transfer characteristic using an EI core. A toroidal core would seem to be less prone to magnetostriction affects? Have you got a toroidal transformer to try? There is no need to strip off turns as it is fairly easy to arrange a 1 turn primary when the toroid has a decent internal diameter ;-) 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:56:50 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFbV3-00053u-Ne for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:56:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFbV3-00053l-KZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:56:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFbU6-0003Yn-Bv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:55:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFbU6-0003Ye-0p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:55:50 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFbxZ-0005zC-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:26:18 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EFbU4-00071m-00; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:55:48 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GoBvYcZG8eyPBdaE1CAIt2AFzuOGUaRnZJmNMVyHXiEaBSBmPFHLYL@[84.133.74.198]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EFbTc-03VmjY0; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:55:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:55:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6213820.20050914195519@t-online.de> To: valerio Gabbani In-Reply-To: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GoBvYcZG8eyPBdaE1CAIt2AFzuOGUaRnZJmNMVyHXiEaBSBmPFHLYL X-TOI-MSGID: 68191ba1-dc56-4f97-a1d1-bf15f0cb14f7 Subject: Re: LF: EKD300 Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Valerio, > I find a logic TTL IC E174 fault so i need also to know where to find an > equivalence with the SN74 series. it seems a E174 is the same as a SN8474N 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:29:14 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFb4M-0006Nn-33 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:29:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFb4L-0006NZ-Qo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:29:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFb4D-0003Rs-Im for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:29:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFb4D-0003Rj-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:29:05 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFbXb-0005of-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:33 +0100 Received: from fwd18.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EFb46-0006Vu-01; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:28:58 +0200 Received: from HW1 (rffjowZpQeFGGGysGorvAlYntHUJZbtA+FdJObRX+t-7KZWWTDK5Qf@[84.133.74.198]) by fwd18.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EFb41-11uUkq0; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:28:53 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:28:50 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <109709662.20050914192850@t-online.de> To: valerio Gabbani In-Reply-To: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: rffjowZpQeFGGGysGorvAlYntHUJZbtA+FdJObRX+t-7KZWWTDK5Qf X-TOI-MSGID: edca2237-de26-4d98-83fe-d22438152325 Subject: Re: LF: EKD300 Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Valerio, here you find parts of the Service Manual, in german: http://people.freenet.de/dg1nog/ekd300.html 73 Hartmu > Hello all, > I bought an LF-HF receiver EKD300 but the PLL chain of the first Local > oscillator does not lock, so i ask on this reflector if someone knows where > to find a copy of the Service Manual. > I find a logic TTL IC E174 fault so i need also to know where to find an > equivalence with the SN74 series. > '73 de IK5ZPV soon QRV again on LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:22:48 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFay8-0005Vz-6j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:22:48 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c5b952$a37f1a40$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:35:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-ID: rffjowZlredbJKXyIfd2QRx72DA+wRMew21gn1kIx3Ai1YvJOSfAUz X-TOI-MSGID: a5736ec4-92c4-4819-9bfa-af06f6668806 Subject: LF: Re: EKD300 Service Manual X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Valerio, have a look at http://www.rainer-foertig.de/unterlagen/DDR-RFT-6.htm Good luck, Peter, dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "valerio Gabbani" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: LF: EKD300 Service Manual > Hello all, > > I bought an LF-HF receiver EKD300 but the PLL chain of the first Local > oscillator does not lock, so i ask on this reflector if someone knows where > to find a copy of the Service Manual. > > I find a logic TTL IC E174 fault so i need also to know where to find an > equivalence with the SN74 series. > > '73 de IK5ZPV soon QRV again on LF > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:07:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFajF-0006AT-Ik for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:07:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFajF-0006AE-Ev for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:07:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaj2-0003HB-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:07:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaj1-0003H2-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:07:12 +0100 Received: from mailfe04.tele2.it ([212.247.154.109] helo=swip.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFbOY-0003BE-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:50:07 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: EeSSFDSoy0nsOt+BORnggdGyuZo0IMbDASQOuY10n0E= Received: from [81.211.225.73] (HELO [192.168.1.2]) by mailfe04.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 455568839 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:06:59 +0200 From: valerio Gabbani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:11:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Organization: UNISI Message-Id: <200509141911.29583.valerio@mailsrv.dii.unisi.it> Subject: LF: EKD300 Service Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello all, I bought an LF-HF receiver EKD300 but the PLL chain of the first Local oscillator does not lock, so i ask on this reflector if someone knows where to find a copy of the Service Manual. I find a logic TTL IC E174 fault so i need also to know where to find an equivalence with the SN74 series. '73 de IK5ZPV soon QRV again on LF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:57:48 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFaZv-0008JU-96 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:57:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFaZu-0008JI-Nn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:57:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaZh-0003BI-J5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:57:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaZg-0003B9-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:57:32 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFbF6-000380-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:40:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 70119 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2005 16:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.122.106 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2005 16:57:18 -0000 Message-ID: <005001c5b94d$440ab560$87468351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> <000601c5b932$848f14c0$87468351@Main> <000c01c5b937$cbdc9d20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:49:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Yes its possible that wall-warts are designed differently to chassis mounting door-stops of the 1950s. I suppose the "no load" current is vital to keeping the current down, and the cores are usually pretty minimal for the declared current rating. I must admit I have not personally had one catch fire yet. Ok the 5 turns looks right....I could not understand the 0.3 from one. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: 14 September 2005 15:22 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) > Rik - Oops. typing mistake there - the 0.3V came from 5 turns put on to > test, so the 4000 turn primary was correct. > Alan - I don't see how a rule of thumb can give a fixed number of tuurns > per volt. the critical parameter for sizing a transformer is based on > cross-sectional area, and for a sinusoidal device V = 4.44.F.N.A.B. > > I use this equation a lot for ferrite (and its SMPSU varient, V.t = N.A.B) > and it works fine, but not sure what sort of B is alloed in iron - for this > small transformer it looks as if Bcould be up to 1 Tesla pk. > > Andy > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 2005-09-10 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:54 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFaDk-00022E-So for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFaDk-0001zX-Of for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaCw-00035X-5h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFaCv-00035O-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:34:01 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFagM-0005WF-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:04:29 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-134.fen-net.de [212.204.117.14]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j8EGRuAx020544 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:27:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000901c5b94c$14d6c640$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:48:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:26 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYWo-0006i4-0u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYWn-0006hr-QO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYWQ-0002tG-HF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYWP-0002t7-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:02 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFZBr-0002dK-Ks for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:28:54 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D01378170 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.131] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:51 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.131 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg131.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID049JiNotz0903X01 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.130.63] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.25R) with ESMTP id 448JiNotx0322M31; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:49 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.130.63 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <432837A5.5030103@usa.net> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:45:57 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> In-Reply-To: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID448JiNotY0322X31 Subject: Re: LF: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Andy wrote: >BUT, and I don't know how to account for it, there was a very significant >non-linearity . Testing over a range of currents from 0.2A RMS to 9A, the >slope of the Vout / Iin graph shifted by nearly a factor of 2. > >That says 'core saturation' to me, but I don't see how that can be. If >the core is saturating with just 9V across a winding designed for 240V, it >doesn't say a lot for the device in a PSU. Should reducing the value of >the burden resistor help matters? > > Have you considered the possibility that for the material composing the core the ratio B/H is not a constant ? It could exhibit a change in value much before reaching the saturation point. But I am not an expert in metals, so take my words with a grain of salt... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:32:09 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYIx-0007uM-Mr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:32:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYIx-0007tT-Hv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:32:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYID-0002nV-8C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:31:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYIC-0002nM-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:31:20 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFYlY-0004mF-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:01:45 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA464C983 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:31:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ca28 [165.212.11.128] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:31:07 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.128 IN dibene@usa.net ca28 X-USANET-MsgId: XID962JiNofH0627X02 Received: from [192.168.0.7] [151.46.130.63] by ca28 (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.25R) with ESMTP id 667JiNofF0344M28; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:31:05 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.130.63 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.7] Message-ID: <4328342A.9040203@usa.net> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:31:06 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> In-Reply-To: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> Z-USANET-MsgId: XID667JiNofF0344X28 Subject: Re: LF: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Andy wrote: >The one turn generated about 0.3V RMS from a 240V input, although after some >prolonged testing as a CT, I realised I had got the turns calculation some >way out, but thats by-the-way, (it was actually nearer 5000 than 4000). >That suggested the turns ratio as approximately 4000 turns on the 240V mains >winding. > > Maybe I am missing something, but given that the ratio of primary to secondary voltage is a linear function of the turn ratio, if you compute : 240 / 0.3 = 800, then 800 is the turn ratio. If the secondary has just one turn, shouldn't the primary have 800 turns ? 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYAS-0007L1-GO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFYAS-0007Kl-Bg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYAC-0002iY-QX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFYAC-0002iP-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:04 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFYpc-0002XM-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:05:56 +0100 Received: from [212.248.140.50] ([212.248.140.50]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j8EENUCs007356 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:23:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.10.21]); Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c5b937$cbdc9d20$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> <000601c5b932$848f14c0$87468351@Main> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:22:53 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Rik - Oops. typing mistake there - the 0.3V came from 5 turns put on to test, so the 4000 turn primary was correct. Alan - I don't see how a rule of thumb can give a fixed number of tuurns per volt. the critical parameter for sizing a transformer is based on cross-sectional area, and for a sinusoidal device V = 4.44.F.N.A.B. I use this equation a lot for ferrite (and its SMPSU varient, V.t = N.A.B) and it works fine, but not sure what sort of B is alloed in iron - for this small transformer it looks as if Bcould be up to 1 Tesla pk. Andy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 2005-09-10 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:01 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFXZN-00045o-29 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFXZM-00043W-SW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:45:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFXaQ-0002bw-Oz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:46:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFXaQ-0002bn-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:46:06 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFYFp-0002Im-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:28:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 58552 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2005 13:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.70.135 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2005 13:45:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c5b932$848f14c0$87468351@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:44:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Andy, I am not up to speed with this these days (I am no doubt someone will chime in with the right gen) but I recollect a value of 7 turns per volt for mains transformer "rule or thumb" design which would be less that 2000 turns on the primary of a mains step-down. What is also the case is that some "cheapy" transofrmers (Altai ??) use as little as 5 turns per volt. These work ok at 60Hz I believe but seem to get hot at 50Hz, even with no load. I would think it unlikely that an economy "wall-wart" would be designed at 20 turns per volt. So maybe your checks were in error ?? Current transformers are available but are quite pricey. I notice that the one in the RS cat shows 8 turn primary for 15A FSD but I guess that depends on the core (toroidal) material. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" To: Sent: 14 September 2005 12:46 Subject: LF: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) > Can anyone help with this knotty annoying problem... > > I wanted to make a 50Hz current transformer (CT) to measure the input > current waveform to a SMPSU. I took a small cheap transformer from a wall > mounted PSU of about 6VA rating, and stripped off all the secondary winding > replacing this with one turn of thick wire to form the primary of teh CT. > The old 240V winding had a DC resistance of around 1k, but this should ( ??) > be irrelevant to CT operation > > > The one turn generated about 0.3V RMS from a 240V input, although after some > prolonged testing as a CT, I realised I had got the turns calculation some > way out, but thats by-the-way, (it was actually nearer 5000 than 4000). > That suggested the turns ratio as approximately 4000 turns on the 240V mains > winding. So for a first test, I used a 4k burden resistor with the > intention of obtaining a resultant voltage output of 1Volt / Amp of primary > current. That way, with at the most 10V across it(corresponding to 10A > input) the core must surely be way below saturation so should give good > linearity - shouldn't it !!!. > > BUT, and I don't know how to account for it, there was a very significant > non-linearity . Testing over a range of currents from 0.2A RMS to 9A, the > slope of the Vout / Iin graph shifted by nearly a factor of 2. > > That says 'core saturation' to me, but I don't see how that can be. If > the core is saturating with just 9V across a winding designed for 240V, it > doesn't say a lot for the device in a PSU. Should reducing the value of > the burden resistor help matters? > > Can anyone shed any light on this? I want a good linear current > transformer that will work to 13A RMS that can be used for signal analysis > of the current and voltage waveforms by feeding into an A/D and calculating > what's really happening when fed with typical mains supply inputs. I don't > want to use a massive transformer if that is not essential! > > Andy G4JNT > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:12:19 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFW7e-0007b3-LJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:12:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFW7e-0007aw-Gz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:12:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFW6t-0002O1-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:11:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFW6s-0002Ns-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:11:30 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFWmE-0001h0-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:54:20 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F3D241C0008A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3101 (wwinf3101 [172.22.158.28]) by mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE1851C00089 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:11:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050914121116975.EE1851C00089@mwinf3104.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <18021614.1126699876958.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.81.100] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: RE: LF: Re: Request for information. 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Message Received: Sep 09 2005, 11:09 AM
From: "Vernall"
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc:
Subject: LF: Re: Request for information.


Laurie,
 
Your email has arrived as I'm about to leave home for 4 days.  I'll reply after I returm.
 
I presume you have also contacted Mike ZL4OL.
 
73, Bob
 
I had hoped for a reply from ZL4OL, but don't have his e' mail address, could you please pass my request on to him.
73 Laurie.
Request for information.

Hi Mike,

I have been asked to give a talk on 136kHz DX at the forthcoming HF Convention

I will of course be covering your reception of my signal in ZL.  Would it be possible for you

to send me details of your station particularly the recieving set-up. Antenna, pre-amp, reciever etc

Any photographs that you have would also be welcome.

Looking forward to being in touch during our winter DX season.

Laurie G3AQC. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:36 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFVnb-0003PZ-PK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFVnb-0003PT-KX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFVmO-0002Ga-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:50:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFVmO-0002GR-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:50:20 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFWFi-0003Yc-Qw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:20:43 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.38]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8EBoSlk000246 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:50:29 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000601c5b922$0e59f410$268cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:46:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Current Transformers (off topic, but expertise probably here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Can anyone help with this knotty annoying problem... I wanted to make a 50Hz current transformer (CT) to measure the input current waveform to a SMPSU. I took a small cheap transformer from a wall mounted PSU of about 6VA rating, and stripped off all the secondary winding replacing this with one turn of thick wire to form the primary of teh CT. The old 240V winding had a DC resistance of around 1k, but this should ( ??) be irrelevant to CT operation The one turn generated about 0.3V RMS from a 240V input, although after some prolonged testing as a CT, I realised I had got the turns calculation some way out, but thats by-the-way, (it was actually nearer 5000 than 4000). That suggested the turns ratio as approximately 4000 turns on the 240V mains winding. So for a first test, I used a 4k burden resistor with the intention of obtaining a resultant voltage output of 1Volt / Amp of primary current. That way, with at the most 10V across it(corresponding to 10A input) the core must surely be way below saturation so should give good linearity - shouldn't it !!!. BUT, and I don't know how to account for it, there was a very significant non-linearity . Testing over a range of currents from 0.2A RMS to 9A, the slope of the Vout / Iin graph shifted by nearly a factor of 2. That says 'core saturation' to me, but I don't see how that can be. If the core is saturating with just 9V across a winding designed for 240V, it doesn't say a lot for the device in a PSU. Should reducing the value of the burden resistor help matters? Can anyone shed any light on this? I want a good linear current transformer that will work to 13A RMS that can be used for signal analysis of the current and voltage waveforms by feeding into an A/D and calculating what's really happening when fed with typical mains supply inputs. I don't want to use a massive transformer if that is not essential! Andy G4JNT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:43:42 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFMJK-0001XP-At for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:43:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EFMJK-0001X7-64 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:43:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EFMHp-0000XL-H3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:42:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EFMHo-0000XC-Vl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:42:08 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.55] helo=priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EFMl0-0000Tr-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:12:22 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20050914014158.JROU12027.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@cognizant1> for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:41:58 -0600 Message-ID: <00aa01c5b8cd$7cba0760$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:41:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Request for ZL reports... 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Today myself and Martin VE7MM where chatting...
 
We wondered how the TTY station on 135.925(low) 135.975(high) was doing into ZL considering the poor propagation conditions up north here due to the recent solar activity...
 
We wonder if anyone is suitably equipped to do some listening runs with spectrum labs graphing feature on these frequencies for down under and provide some reports?
 
Please contact me if you are interested and need some help with spectrum lab to do this...
 
73 Scott
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:08:52 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpvQ-0003hE-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:08:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpvQ-0003gx-43 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:08:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpuy-0005TW-VV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:08:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpuy-0005TN-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:08:24 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEqNd-0003C5-8M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:38:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 17399 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2005 15:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 12 Sep 2005 15:08:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c5b7ab$f12d5de0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000401c5b7a1$56b3f8a0$0a8cf8d4@standalone> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:09:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Andy, > Yes please, if you could send the screen dumps and info to my work email > address (its faster) -- actalbot@dstl.gov.uk Will do, hopefully tonight. > I'm surprised that you say the improvement with Africam was not that > significant. I'll go with Bill's reply on that one. Frankly, I think a few of us had very high expectations that were not realistic. That's certainly not Bill's fault! I would very much like to revisit the method, though I'm nervous about doing unshaped keying with my current higher power at any but the lowest data rates. Having linear PA, it's been nice to take advantage of the envelope shaping that the sound card programmers have provided. One side benefit of the project was acquiring an HP Z3801A receiver which provides the GPS-disciplined 10 MHz output that I use with my DDS exciter. Very nice. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:41 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpcq-000854-G8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpcq-00080y-BP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpcQ-0005Mx-NE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpcQ-0005Mo-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:14 +0100 Received: from mail.nrtco.net ([216.168.96.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEqGs-00005k-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:31:06 +0100 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar (nrtcorback-216-168-120-44.nrtco.net [216.168.120.44]) by mail.nrtco.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with SMTP id j8CErQVV013579 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050912104903.00a46b20@magma.ca> X-Sender: ve2iq@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:49:03 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <000401c5b7a1$56b3f8a0$0a8cf8d4@standalone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 02:52 PM 9/12/2005 +0100, Andy wrote: >John - [..] >I'm surprised that you say the improvement with Africam was not that >significant. Surely, the biggest problem with any coherent scheme like PSK >is maintaining symbol timing and carrier lock. Certainly the timing can be >determined exactly, on a continuous basis, and most of the coherency issue >is resolvable too, so surely now that all the non-linear processing elements >of PSK reception have gone away shouldn't the net gain be potentially >massive ? AFRICAM uses the GPS info for bit timing and framing, it does not attempt to synthesize a coherent carrier. I keep hearing how difficult it is to get some of those DDS-based BPSK generators out there to switch coherently, at least without some modification. If anyone wants to transmit coherent BPSK I'll look into the receive side this winter. Bill From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:32 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEoqJ-0006zx-Iy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEoqJ-0006zh-EV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEoqB-0005EN-Gr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEoqB-0005EE-5M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:59:23 +0100 Received: from mail.nrtco.net ([216.168.96.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEpIj-0002qF-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:29:01 +0100 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar (nrtcorback-216-168-120-44.nrtco.net [216.168.120.44]) by mail.nrtco.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with SMTP id j8CE3VVV004431 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:03:32 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050912095908.00a6ae98@magma.ca> X-Sender: ve2iq@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:59:08 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <004201c5b793$60cfe500$048cf8d4@standalone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 01:13 PM 9/12/2005 +0100, Andy wrote: > Seem to recall talk about a few datamode software authors who >were contemplating adding some GPS capability to their products and I was >wondering if anyone has information or progress on this. G4JNT AFRICAM has GPS-sync capability - it has proven most useful with very slow BPSK where it would otherwise take a long time to find the signal. Did some tests last season with it - the error correction capabilities aren't as robust as those in WOLF. It's easy to do the GPS part, just put the 1-pps onto the Ring Indicator pin of a serial port. If the rest of the serial port is available (i.e. you use a sound card instead of the usual sigma-delta serial interface board) - then you can use the serial port to monitor NMEA output from the GPS unit - AFRICAM only uses the $GPRMC sentence to set the computer's clock so he knows for sure which second each 1-pps input pulse corresponds to. If the serial port is not available you must manually set the computer's clock to within a half second or so of UTC immediately before starting AFRICAM - thereafter it keeps track of time by counting the 1-pps inputs. AFRICAM can be used with a sound card - but not very user friendly - it works great with my sound card, others have found it hard to set up :) This is a DOS program, doesn't get along with Windows. If you're interested, you can download it from my website: www.magma.ca/~ve2iq Documentation is weak - any questions, I'll try to answer by e-mail - it has been a while since I last looked at it. Bill From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:57:29 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEooK-0000KV-5X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:57:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEooJ-0000Jg-Pg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:57:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEomi-0005A5-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:55:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEomh-00059w-Jg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:55:47 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEpFM-0002nw-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:25:26 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.10]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8CDuBlk010903; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:56:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000401c5b7a1$56b3f8a0$0a8cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Me Work" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:52:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) John - Yes please, if you could send the screen dumps and info to my work email address (its faster) -- actalbot@dstl.gov.uk I'm surprised that you say the improvement with Africam was not that significant. Surely, the biggest problem with any coherent scheme like PSK is maintaining symbol timing and carrier lock. Certainly the timing can be determined exactly, on a continuous basis, and most of the coherency issue is resolvable too, so surely now that all the non-linear processing elements of PSK reception have gone away shouldn't the net gain be potentially massive ? As I may have said at the time, G0TJZ's chirpsounder monitoring software makes use of the 1PPS from a GPS Rx fed to the soundcard and is very definitely a fully coherent system - albeit only to about 125us timing resolution as a function of sampling at 8kHz Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: John Andrews To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 2005/09/12 13:58 Subject: LF: Re: Request for information. >Andy, > >Bill de Carle produced a version of Africam that allowed GPS sync. As I >recall, we thoroughly tested it in early 2004 with signalling rates as slow >as MS2000 (0.5 b/s). At the lower data rates, it provided a signal lock much >more quickly than the non-GPS version. It also held a signal better through >deep fades. > >That said, the performance gain was not dramatic. WOLF was more effective, >though in a wider BW. As I recall, there were five of us capable of >transmitting and receiving GPS-sync Africam, and a couple of other guys >would copy the signals using the traditional sync. Jay Rusgrove and I have >continued to run it from time to time. But as Africam is a DOS based >program, and can be fussy about sound cards (most of us were using Bill's >S-D board), there hasn't been much interest. > >The GPS-sync concept is still appealing, however. As last discussed, the >next idea was to feed 1pps ticks into the right channel of a sound card. I >don't believe that this has been implemented, however. It would be >interesting to see how that worked with an MS1000 version of WOLF. The >quicker sync time might compensate for the lower data rate. > >I should still have email messages and screen dumps left from the Africam >tests, if you have any interest. > >John Andrews, W1TAG > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52:56 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEnns-0001rW-3G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEnnr-0001rN-Q0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEnna-00051C-Uh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEnna-000513-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52:38 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEoGB-0002WT-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:22:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 3093 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2005 12:52:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 12 Sep 2005 12:52:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c5b798$f8e13d30$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004201c5b793$60cfe500$048cf8d4@standalone> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:53:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Andy, Bill de Carle produced a version of Africam that allowed GPS sync. As I recall, we thoroughly tested it in early 2004 with signalling rates as slow as MS2000 (0.5 b/s). At the lower data rates, it provided a signal lock much more quickly than the non-GPS version. It also held a signal better through deep fades. That said, the performance gain was not dramatic. WOLF was more effective, though in a wider BW. As I recall, there were five of us capable of transmitting and receiving GPS-sync Africam, and a couple of other guys would copy the signals using the traditional sync. Jay Rusgrove and I have continued to run it from time to time. But as Africam is a DOS based program, and can be fussy about sound cards (most of us were using Bill's S-D board), there hasn't been much interest. The GPS-sync concept is still appealing, however. As last discussed, the next idea was to feed 1pps ticks into the right channel of a sound card. I don't believe that this has been implemented, however. It would be interesting to see how that worked with an MS1000 version of WOLF. The quicker sync time might compensate for the lower data rate. I should still have email messages and screen dumps left from the Africam tests, if you have any interest. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:16:20 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEnES-0004vI-1D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:16:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEnER-0004uY-TL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:16:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEnDz-0004uH-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:15:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEnDz-0004u8-EW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:15:51 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEngb-0002Mp-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:45:28 +0100 Received: from standalone ([212.248.140.4]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8CCGGlk023590 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:16:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004201c5b793$60cfe500$048cf8d4@standalone> From: "Andy" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:13:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com Subject: LF: Request for information. 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I will be giving a talk at the HF Convention on the use of GPS to enhance amateur communications methods.     Seem to recall talk about a few datamode software authors who were contemplating adding some GPS capability to their products and I was wondering if anyone has information or progress on this.
 
Apart from the simple GPS locked PSK experiments between M0BMU myself and a few others several years ago, I seem to recall there was comment on this reflector about some US Lowfer experimentation with GPS locked modes. 
 
Andy  G4JNT
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:08 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmiI-0004B5-Sq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmiI-0004AL-6a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:43:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmi6-0004nh-OL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmi6-0004nY-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:54 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEnAh-00029T-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:12:30 +0100 Received: from GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (200.3.3.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4324F7250000876B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:13 +0200 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales ([200.3.2.3]) by GWOUT with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:43:13 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:42:42 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4312FDB0000EAB0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 43171567000841C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:12 +0200 Received: by nodalnet.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF5D3@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:40:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: TR: AR5000A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Many thanks to all who responded to my query about the AR5000A 10 MHz ref input. Please find below the answer I just got from AOR UK (thank you Tracey!) 73 de JL F6AGR > -----Message d'origine----- > De : AOR UK LTD [mailto:info@aoruk.com] > Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2005 10:53 > À : Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com > Objet : Re: AR5000A > The AR5000 series of receivers have been designed & > manufactured by our > associate company in Japan who are responsible for international > distribution, the appointment of national distributors and support: > > AOR Ltd, 2-6-4 Misuji, Taito-Ku, Tokyo 111-0055, Japan > Tel: +81 3 3865 1695 > Fax: +81 3 3865 1697 > e-mail: post@aorja.com > WEB http://www.aorja.com > > I wonder what specific query you have regarding the 10MHz external > reference, here are a few comments... > > 1) Selection of the external 10MHz / internal 12.8MHz > reference is via a > menu. > > 2) From our experiments, the minimum drive level is about 0dBm, about > 10dB above this level (+10dBm) appears necessary to ensure > PLL LOCK on > all bands. We have driven the AR5000 successfully from our workshop > reference of 5V. > > 3) Only the master oscillator is controlled by this > reference, the radio > uses three oscillators in its superheterodyne circuit, so use > of a 10MHz > reference does not make the radio fully frequency / phase > coherent. AOR > used to make a custom version for coherence called the AR5000C, it is > no-longer available. > > 4) Typical drift using the internal 12.8MHz reference can be > viewed on > the following link: http://www.aoruk.com/5000bull.htm#frequency > > I hope my comments will be of assistance. > > Regards, Richard Hillier - AOR UK > > b.c.c. Frederic Collin, AOR Japan > >  > >  > >-----Message d'origine----- > >De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de > Tracey Gardner > >Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2005 10:23 > >À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >Objet : LF: Re: AR5000A > > > >Hello Jean-Louis > >  > >Just contact Richard Hillier at AOR UK. info@aoruk.com > >He will be able to answer your question straight away. > >I've always found AOR UK to be extremely helpful. > >I've no connection with them, other than being a satisfied customer. > >  > >73s Tracey > >  > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:07 AM > > Subject: LF: AR5000A > > > > Hi all > >   > > The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. > input allowing to > > lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The > > user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape  > (square ? sine ?) > > and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used. > > Anyone there having any details ? > >   > > Thanks > >   > > 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR > > -- > AOR UK LTD, Unit 9, Dimple Road Business Centre, Matlock, > Derbys DE4 3JX, > England > Tel: 01629 581222 International +44 1629 581222 > Fax: 01629 580070 International +44 1629 580070 > info@aoruk.com http://www.aoruk.com > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:13:39 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmFm-0005Gn-2q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:13:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEmFl-0005Fq-Ss for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:13:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmF9-0004hQ-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:12:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEmF9-0004hH-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:12:59 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233] helo=olive.pncl.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEmhl-00022t-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:35 +0100 Received: from AUG2004 (84-12-188-83.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.188.83] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by olive.pncl.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8CB5w7r026847 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:06:06 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c5b789$f8b744d0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FF5C0@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:05:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk Subject: LF: Re: AR5000A Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I have an AOR 5000A3 and have been running it on a 10 MHz standard for a couple of years inputting a 5v p-p sinewave without trouble. It seems to function OK down to 0.5v p-p.
But note, the 10 MHz external only drives the main synthesizer; the BFO and sideband selection oscs are free-running so not controlled. The audio tone produced in CW or SSB modes is
therefore not all that stable.  AOR used to do a fully controlled phase-coherent version but withdrew it for some reason.
 
Walter G3JKV.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: LF: AR5000A

Hi all
 
The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. input allowing to lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape (square ? sine ?) and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used.
Anyone there having any details ?
 
Thanks
 
73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR
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Thank you Tracey, our main french AOR retailer was unable to answer such a question ...
 
73
 
JL F6AGR
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]De la part de Tracey Gardner
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2005 10:23
À : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Objet : LF: Re: AR5000A

Hello Jean-Louis
 
Just contact Richard Hillier at AOR UK. info@aoruk.com
He will be able to answer your question straight away.
I've always found AOR UK to be extremely helpful.
I've no connection with them, other than being a satisfied customer.
 
73s Tracey
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: LF: AR5000A

Hi all
 
The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. input allowing to lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape (square ? sine ?) and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used.
Anyone there having any details ?
 
Thanks
 
73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

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Hello Jean-Louis
 
Just contact Richard Hillier at AOR UK. info@aoruk.com
He will be able to answer your question straight away.
I've always found AOR UK to be extremely helpful.
I've no connection with them, other than being a satisfied customer.
 
73s Tracey
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: LF: AR5000A

Hi all
 
The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. input allowing to lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape (square ? sine ?) and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used.
Anyone there having any details ?
 
Thanks
 
73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR

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Hi all
 
The AOR AR5000A receiver is fitted with a 10 MHz ref. input allowing to lock the VFOs on an external high stability frequency source. The user's manual doesn't give any details on the shape (square ? sine ?) and the amplitude of the 10MHz ref. signal to be used.
Anyone there having any details ?
 
Thanks
 
73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:00:08 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEUFS-0005G0-Pb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:00:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEUFS-0005Fo-M7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:00:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEUEM-0003HE-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:58:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEUEL-0003H5-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:58:57 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEUsO-00041E-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:40:21 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8BFvaEa030528 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:57:36 -0400 Received: from server (dial209-ripley2.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.149.209]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j8BFxGnF000774 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <015901c5b6e0$dee97ae0$408efea9@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c58ab2$0cd7acc0$dd088751@w4o8m9> <000e01c59564$475750a0$9a952ed8@server> <005f01c5961f$4d0a4b40$c9b78351@Main> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:54:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: LF: VO1NA frequency? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello LFers, Now that I've got my preamp and pickup loop sorted on my LF loop, I want to try for some DX. Up to this point I've never seen even a trace of VO1NA but perhaps it's just too long of a path over land. Any comments? On another note, I'm glad to hear that our two friends from the Gulf area are OK and I hope that their damage is minimal and that they'll be back on LF soon. 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL EN93dr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:34:32 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEQ6S-0002Vk-6O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:34:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEQ6S-0002VQ-2y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:34:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEQ5v-00032C-Ga for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:33:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEQ5u-000323-SJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:33:58 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEQjp-0002cC-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:15:16 +0100 Received: from fwd24.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EEQ5q-0006mZ-03; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:33:54 +0200 Received: from dl4eau (VrMRAsZ1Qe5CUtmc9ccMscCVvhN9DWTNjJH60DZmdlzRaS4Ub7bS0v@[217.245.118.65]) by fwd24.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EEQ5m-0EPgwq0; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:33:50 +0200 From: "Thomas Eckart" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:32:55 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: X-ID: VrMRAsZ1Qe5CUtmc9ccMscCVvhN9DWTNjJH60DZmdlzRaS4Ub7bS0v X-TOI-MSGID: fee9c06e-6ec1-4b0b-bbc9-b708f092b896 Subject: LF: AW: RE: Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Dave, oh, very happy that you received me!! I'm very glad abt. that. At the moment I can't be qrv in QRSS, because their is a big shifting in my frequency. I use an Icom IC735 with transverter. But the Icom has bad frequency adjustment for lf. Yesterday I made a test with the DF6NM grabber! Dave, can we please make a sket? Please make a proposal,when you are qrv in normal cw. I'am working here with inverted L 14m high; 20m long; power abt. 500W with 10 times IRF840B So, 73' from TOM DL4EAU JO51DR nr Goettingen -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Im Auftrag von Dave G3WCB Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. September 2005 00:20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: RE: Activity Hi, Hartmut. You were right... I found DL4EAU callsign in a later frame at about 1140 utc (See attachment). DL4EAU must have been a strong signal here, because I was working on my antenna and it was laying on the grass at the time this screenshot was taken ;-) 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 10 September 2005 19:00 To: Dave G3WCB Subject: Re: LF: RE: Activity Dave, the signal looks like DL4EAU who was beaconing about that time and on the frequency. 73 Hartmut > Dear Marc, LF, > Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS > transmission today at 1100 utc. See attachment. > No sign of F5MAF last night 2000-2100 utc. > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:55 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEOla-00008Y-P7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:55 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore14.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEOla-00008S-Le for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEOkr-0002us-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEOkr-0002uj-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:09 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEPOi-0001wp-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:49:25 +0100 Received: from fwd23.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EEOkl-0005wa-00; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:08:03 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bptQJOZrZeMBorz+lloQLbGlhYHAm+aW4zmYXBhVODeWnWEJnELfww@[84.133.90.24]) by fwd23.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EEOki-0rbR5s0; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:08:00 +0200 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:07:59 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <253485931.20050911120759@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bptQJOZrZeMBorz+lloQLbGlhYHAm+aW4zmYXBhVODeWnWEJnELfww X-TOI-MSGID: 593f6a4e-4a31-45a2-80e0-fc8205d04a5a Subject: LF: Sunday morning activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Updated my website with captures of G3WCB, G3XIZ, DJ6GT, DL1RTN, F6BWO and DK1IS. Nothing seen from F5MAF yet. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:20:52 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEDiO-0004VH-64 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:20:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEDiN-0004VA-Us for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:20:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEDhB-0000yH-BG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEDhA-0000y8-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:36 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEE9D-0003W0-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:48:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 47534 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2005 22:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@81.151.99.81 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2005 22:19:29 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:57 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <764043020.20050910195941@t-online.de> Subject: LF: RE: Activity Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010202020504010701050408" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010202020504010701050408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Hartmut. You were right... I found DL4EAU callsign in a later frame at about 1140 utc (See attachment). DL4EAU must have been a strong signal here, because I was working on my antenna and it was laying on the grass at the time this screenshot was taken ;-) 73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff Sent: 10 September 2005 19:00 To: Dave G3WCB Subject: Re: LF: RE: Activity Dave, the signal looks like DL4EAU who was beaconing about that time and on the frequency. 73 Hartmut > Dear Marc, LF, > Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS > transmission today at 1100 utc. 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([193.252.22.29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEDYq-0003NK-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:11:04 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8658E1C001DC for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:41:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-4-108.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.200.43.108]) by mwinf0203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 568071C001C9 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:41:55 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050910214155354.568071C001C9@mwinf0203.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43235323.3030004@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:41:55 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: LF: AGR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) No sign from F5MAF also here in JN18DQ 73 Jean Louis F6AGR ve G3WCB a écrit : >Dear Marc, LF, > >Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS >transmission today at 1100 utc. See attachment. > >No sign of F5MAF last night 2000-2100 utc. > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE >Sent: 10 September 2005 16:55 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Activity > > >Hi all, >Any activity this morning in QRSS mode? > >73 marc > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:26:35 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEA3e-0003OP-LE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:26:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEA3e-0003OG-Ga for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:26:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEA3P-0000f0-B3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:26:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEA3O-0000er-Qv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:26:18 +0100 Received: from mailfe09.tele2.fr ([212.247.155.12] helo=swip.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEAVL-0002oD-6c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:55:15 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: yN3knf/L3V+DBMN2/0a2H8k0MQ8ElzHVe/Nj1y1L7js= Received: from [80.170.63.16] ([80.170.63.16] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 240154915 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:26:08 +0200 Message-ID: <43232542.1030606@free.fr> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:26:10 +0200 From: F5MAF FREE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LF: RE: Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dave G3WCB a écrit : >Dear Marc, LF, > >Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS >transmission today at 1100 utc. See attachment. > >No sign of F5MAF last night 2000-2100 utc. > >73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE >Sent: 10 September 2005 16:55 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Activity > > >Hi all, >Any activity this morning in QRSS mode? > >73 marc > > > > > Ok Dave and Hartmut, Perhaps tomorrow morning on 137.700kHz +-10Hz if no QRN! 73 marc From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:58:24 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EE9cN-0004M4-On for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:58:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EE9cN-0004Lo-KG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:58:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EE9dl-0000Yn-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:59:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EE9dk-0000Ye-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:59:48 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEA5j-0002gj-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:28:44 +0100 Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EE9dj-0004Pk-00; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:59:47 +0200 Received: from HW1 (STR+REZ6oetthZ8anuhBB-612EU-boIVfjYhrZF-6slZy8AONY2OZl@[84.133.90.24]) by fwd22.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EE9dc-1Dciv20; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:59:40 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:59:41 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <764043020.20050910195941@t-online.de> To: Dave G3WCB In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: STR+REZ6oetthZ8anuhBB-612EU-boIVfjYhrZF-6slZy8AONY2OZl X-TOI-MSGID: 7879f387-5b46-4d45-ad89-0369a3ba6378 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dave, the signal looks like DL4EAU who was beaconing about that time and on the frequency. 73 Hartmut > Dear Marc, LF, > Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS > transmission today at 1100 utc. See attachment. > No sign of F5MAF last night 2000-2100 utc. > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F5MAF FREE > Sent: 10 September 2005 16:55 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Activity > Hi all, > Any activity this morning in QRSS mode? > 73 marc From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:46 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EE9IP-0008Au-Ox for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EE9IP-0008AP-DU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EE9Hs-0000Tm-8F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EE9Hr-0000Td-Kp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:11 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EE9jo-0002ZN-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:06:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 9753 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2005 17:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.159.207 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2005 17:37:01 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <432301CF.8050508@free.fr> Subject: LF: RE: Activity Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090808080304080603040801" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090808080304080603040801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Marc, LF, Very heavy QRN + local thunder today, but I did copy a fragment of a QRSS transmission today at 1100 utc. See attachment. 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yN3knf/L3V+DBMN2/0a2H8k0MQ8ElzHVe/Nj1y1L7js= Received: from [83.177.252.67] ([83.177.252.67] verified) by mailfe03.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 257138062; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:42:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4321D77F.9000708@free.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:42:07 +0200 From: F5MAF FREE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, LF_VLF_ELF@yahoogroupes.fr Subject: LF: QRSS3 this evening Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) I ll transmit in beacon mode this evening between 20:00 UTC and 22:00 UTC on 137.690. Message TEST F5MAF JN03PQ Regards Marc F5MAF JN03PQ (Toulouse) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:06:20 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDhe8-00005N-1H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:06:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDhe7-0008WL-SR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:06:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDhdB-0007Fy-M6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:05:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDhdB-0007Fp-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:05:21 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDi4f-0003KL-JN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:33:48 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050909120510.IFSK1610.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:10 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.86.87.166]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050909120509.PUMK5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:09 +1200 Message-ID: <003501c5b536$b9723be0$0301010a@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:08 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hello Laurie, well, my receiving setup is simple. I use an IC-R75 receiver with the OCXO option and the 250Hz CW filter. I always have both preamps switched in. The noise blanker is usually off as it generates unwanted QRM lines. The antenna is an inverted L, 19 metres vertical and 15 metres horizontal, with an elevated loading coil of 3 mH at the elbow and the rest of the loading at ground level. My location is reasonably quiet, semi-rural, 15km North of Dunedin on the East coast of the South Island. This seems to give me some sea gain towards the US and I have had some success copying Laurence KL1X in Oklahoma. Argo 134 is generally used to look for signals. When is your talk Laurie? I don't have any pictures but could take a few if you like. 80 metre signals are starting to build again although I am usually homr from work a bit late. I have worked G3WXX and G4AMN a few times over the last month or so. I look forward to hearing you again. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:09:50 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDfpN-00031j-Op for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:09:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDfpN-00031W-FA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:09:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDfpA-00073G-Lr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:09:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDfpA-000737-9E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:09:36 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDgGd-0002jg-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:38:01 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.194]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050909100919.YCZI1559.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:09:19 +1200 Received: from IBMF7542B482FC ([210.86.113.251]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050909100919.PALB5449.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@IBMF7542B482FC> for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:09:19 +1200 Message-ID: <004f01c5b526$8a9b37a0$8701a8c0@IBMF7542B482FC> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:07:12 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
Laurie,
 
Your email has arrived as I'm about to leave home for 4 days.  I'll reply after I returm.
 
I presume you have also contacted Mike ZL4OL.
 
73, Bob
----- Original Message -----
To: RSGB
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:57 PM
Subject: LF: Request for information.

Hi Mike,

I have been asked to give a talk on 136kHz DX at the forthcoming HF Convention

I will of course be covering your reception of my signal in ZL.  Would it be possible for you

to send me details of your station particularly the recieving set-up. Antenna, pre-amp, reciever etc

Any photographs that you have would also be welcome.

Looking forward to being in touch during our winter DX season.

Laurie G3AQC. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:58:07 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDfe3-00083A-7I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:58:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDfe3-00082k-2k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:58:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDfdL-0006y7-Sm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:57:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDfdL-0006xy-ED for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:57:23 +0100 Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.156] helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDgGH-0001ar-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:37:38 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACD121C0008B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3201 (wwinf3201 [172.22.156.28]) by mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A11C91C00088 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:57:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050909095716660.A11C91C00088@mwinf3206.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <17879303.1126259836649.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [86.131.83.111] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LF: Request for information. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi Mike,

I have been asked to give a talk on 136kHz DX at the forthcoming HF Convention

I will of course be covering your reception of my signal in ZL.  Would it be possible for you

to send me details of your station particularly the recieving set-up. Antenna, pre-amp, reciever etc

Any photographs that you have would also be welcome.

Looking forward to being in touch during our winter DX season.

Laurie G3AQC. 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:05 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDVOB-0002tG-Tb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDVOB-0002sj-Ox for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:01:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDVNB-0006ID-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:00:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDVNA-0006I4-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:00:00 +0100 Received: from bay102-f7.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.17] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDVoM-0007jZ-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:28:15 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:59:44 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:59:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000401c5b4be$92ecb720$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:59:44 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2005 22:59:44.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[00C62920:01C5B4C9] Subject: LF: Re: [LW] XDW day WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jay John - Impressive - I had to issue a formal warning to my company today ref potential communications issues over the next week or so. Ive been receiving warnings all day from my satellite proviiders/ISP/NOAA etc; its been some time since I last did that. We should set up - Daytime Received via Flare award I changes the message at 2224Z Laurence wd2xdw kl1x/5 137.422 WOLF em26aq >From: "John Andrews" >Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org >To: >Subject: Re: [LW] XDW day WOLF >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:45:04 +0100 > >Jay, Laurence, Alan, etc: > > > Daytime copy. > >There was an X5 flare at 2105 UTC today, coinciding with Jay's XDW copy. My >results show a big jump in signal strength right at that time. Note the >jump >in "q" values: > >2005-09-08 20:48:56 >WOLF -r 8001.12 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -d 24 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f:-0.018 a:-1.4 dp: 72.0 ci: 0 cj: 0 9 I.7MCT9*RPV*B ? >t: 48 f:-0.019 a:-1.4 dp: 69.2 ci: 4 cj:122 /MN40CEC*47C??? ? >t: 96 f:-0.017 a: 1.5 dp: 69.4 ci: 1 cj:147 PI8SGFV.HUHZYRC ? >t: 192 f:-0.029 pm:2.710 jm:783 q:-14.3 -7.2 BSQ564X01VCRC ? >t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:3.889 jm:797 q:-12.0 -8.7 W.*HK4L12LGV 1 ? >t: 384 f:-0.039 pm:5.603 jm:645 q:-12.5 -8.6 DDDN7G2*CCZ46E1 ? >t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:5.915 jm:243 q:-11.4 -8.2 06QOX51N45T6Q.B ? >t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:6.858 jm:243 q:-11.0 -7.3 R6X6ZF???M0MOBA ? >t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:7.366 jm:243 q:-10.2 -8.4 C7EEV*DXDIX E ? >t: 768 f: 0.029 pm:8.670 jm:812 q: -4.3 -7.8 GW1WXGZP/T582GA ? >t: 864 f: 0.029 pm:13.69 jm:812 q: -3.6 -9.1 84TUN5TGZYV1K7I ? >t: 960 f: 0.029 pm:19.24 jm:812 q: -2.9 -5.0 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1056 f: 0.029 pm:21.24 jm:812 q: -2.6 -4.5 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1152 f: 0.029 pm:22.54 jm:812 q: -2.2 -4.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1248 f: 0.029 pm:24.34 jm:812 q: -1.6 -3.4 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1344 f: 0.029 pm:26.88 jm:812 q: -1.1 -2.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1440 f: 0.029 pm:29.25 jm:812 q: -0.1 -2.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1536 f: 0.029 pm:30.63 jm:812 q: -0.2 -1.7 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1632 f: 0.029 pm:33.35 jm:812 q: 0.3 -1.5 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1728 f: 0.029 pm:37.00 jm:812 q: 0.8 -1.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1824 f: 0.029 pm:38.43 jm:812 q: 0.8 -0.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:1920 f: 0.029 pm:40.24 jm:812 q: 1.5 -0.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2016 f: 0.029 pm:42.24 jm:812 q: 1.6 0.1 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2112 f: 0.029 pm:44.23 jm:812 q: 1.7 0.4 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2208 f: 0.029 pm:46.45 jm:812 q: 2.2 0.9 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2304 f: 0.029 pm:47.22 jm:812 q: 2.2 0.8 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >t:2400 f: 0.029 pm:49.89 jm:812 q: 2.5 0.7 XDW DAY EM26AQ - >2005-09-08 21:29:30 >WOLF -r 8001.12 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -d 24 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f:-0.020 a: 0.5 dp: 73.2 ci: 5 cj: 69 UN2CCGKFA/5GKIL ? >t: 48 f:-0.015 a: 0.1 dp: 69.3 ci: 7 cj:126 NDHZ5I8PWBLLXRP ? >t: 96 f: 0.055 a: 0.3 dp: 66.9 ci:15 cj:137 AT8U73*H7F*0ORV ? >t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:3.574 jm:853 q:-13.3 -9.1 S2CH YCSO46.N T ? >t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:4.366 jm:398 q:-12.5 -8.3 P7YQAXKQA0LCK5X ? >t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:4.954 jm:126 q:-11.8 -6.1 T5*81GZH.I4OQ5* - >t: 480 f:-0.039 pm:6.126 jm:928 q:-10.8 -6.0 VMXIF7Q0Q5*.A9V - >t: 576 f:-0.039 pm:7.489 jm:928 q:-10.1 -6.0 KCA9V/FX94O1QOL - >t: 672 f:-0.039 pm:8.312 jm:947 q:-10.5 -7.9 5HJHIFWKG7I/PY6 ? >t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:12.00 jm:191 q: -9.9 -8.8 JP3FYX???E34YXH ? >t: 864 f:-0.039 pm:12.24 jm:191 q: -9.8 -5.8 UQBUORR*MQ CK36 ? >t: 960 f:-0.039 pm:12.49 jm:947 q: -8.6 -7.4 *ECZ/LPK*DB7ACI ? >t:1056 f:-0.039 pm:14.94 jm:947 q: -8.7 -8.4 I/ORMLFLECRK8LU ? >t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:17.75 jm:389 q: -7.3 -6.9 VI1VDZKCXOU PBK ? >t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:19.25 jm:389 q: -7.2 -6.2 EQY.7IMDNI*7S*O - >t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:19.60 jm:389 q: -7.3 -9.1 H1F7ZRLR6ZD5176 ? >t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:19.94 jm:389 q: -7.2 -6.0 ZKO6AV9/M 5 YO6 ? >t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:21.98 jm:559 q: -7.7 -8.0 BO27V9MF6FT9ICG ? >t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:23.37 jm:559 q: -7.5 -8.5 PCESCBIB/FKC/L0 ? >t:1728 f:-0.010 pm:23.95 jm:559 q: -7.5 -8.6 PCESCBIB/FKC/L0 ? >t:1824 f:-0.010 pm:25.13 jm:559 q: -7.1 -8.8 GWX0L2EBFFKC/L0 ? >t:1920 f:-0.010 pm:26.18 jm:389 q: -5.8 -7.7 IP V8AZ1N4D LLU ? >t:2016 f:-0.010 pm:28.37 jm:389 q: -5.8 -9.7 R/4L8YQDA9H5LLU ? >t:2112 f:-0.010 pm:31.36 jm:754 q: -6.0 -8.1 68R8Y43I36C*XB2 ? >t:2208 f:-0.010 pm:33.72 jm:292 q: -6.0 -8.3 X.HQNY..B.T6SFS ? >t:2304 f:-0.010 pm:35.06 jm:292 q: -5.8 -9.1 9ZLRYYV.V.X6 C5 ? >t:2400 f:-0.010 pm:35.09 jm:292 q: -5.5 -8.6 9ZLRYYV.V.X6 TN ? > >JA > > > > >________________________________________ >Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! >Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDRKt-0004Zl-Ff for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDRKt-0004ZU-BJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:41:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDRK9-0005vs-FB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:40:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDRK9-0005vj-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:40:37 +0100 Received: from bay102-f5.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.15] helo=hotmail.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDRwi-0006Tr-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:20:33 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:39:37 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.207 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:39:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:39:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2005 18:39:37.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA0E7E80:01C5B4A4] Subject: LF: XDW WOlf 137.422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit This will be the last night on air for about 10 days or so as Im France and UK bound. Watch out for daytime flares and you never know it might make TA! Laurence KL1X/5 http://myweb.cableone.net/flow em26aq 1Kw Loop wd2xdw Bartlesville OK 74006 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:56:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDOlD-0001eu-51 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:56:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDOlD-0001eK-0d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:56:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDOkK-0005gS-Jm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:55:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDOkJ-0005gJ-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:55:27 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDPMt-0005Nq-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:35:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 24960 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2005 15:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2005 15:55:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c5b48d$ceaab6d0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1066058424.20050908164537@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:55:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: TA Sep, 8/9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hartmut, Thanks for the WOLF report -- that copy was better than I would have expected. I will be on that frequency with WOLF for the next few nights. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:33 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDOHK-0000Az-MD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDOHK-00007D-JI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDOGw-0005ap-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDOGv-0005ag-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:05 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDOtS-0005HC-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:04:57 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j88FOqdn024278 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:54:52 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j88FOq51014169 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:54:52 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j88FOqAI012366; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:54:52 -0230 (NDT) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:54:51 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1066058424.20050908164537@t-online.de> Message-ID: References: <1066058424.20050908164537@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA Sep, 8/9 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Hartmut, Group. Thank-you for the signal reports. I have been doing some aerial work and now have a current of 1.1 amps with about 80 watts to the 100m wire. Eventually I hope to get another wire in the air and a little more power. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:47:05 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDNg4-0002al-Us for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:47:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EDNg4-0002ZS-Nt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:47:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EDNex-0005TH-Gc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:45:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EDNev-0005T8-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:45:49 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EDOHP-0004y1-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:25:40 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EDNep-0003H2-01; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:45:43 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SyFKrcZV8e0U8ZORM0C22kPJJJji-u1GI5e26zYTLxmvvoMWNmW6oX@[84.133.126.234]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EDNel-10ZRz60; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:45:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:45:37 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1066058424.20050908164537@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SyFKrcZV8e0U8ZORM0C22kPJJJji-u1GI5e26zYTLxmvvoMWNmW6oX X-TOI-MSGID: 848b86fb-ddb4-4ee6-9ceb-bb15fd51fbde Subject: LF: TA Sep, 8/9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) VO1NA Copied "NA" in QRSS60 mode 0000-0430UTC. WD2XES Copied a few lines of the WOLF transmission on 136.318kHz. Decoding was made from a soundfile starting 0250 UTC. Overall 136.318kHz is quieter here than 137.441kHz. WD2XGJ Mostly traces, only very few signs readable. WD2XKO Partial copy of a callsign string 0155-0245. Missed the first dash of the "X" and one dash of the "O" was broken. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:27:02 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ED4dR-0004hL-Sk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:27:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ED4dR-0004gk-Pp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:27:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ED4dD-0003Df-Js for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:26:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ED4dD-0003DW-91 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:26:47 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ED543-0007Tz-9D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:54:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 15517 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 18:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2005 18:26:36 -0000 Message-ID: <004101c5b3d9$c37cd360$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003901c5b3d7$03d6b370$8d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:27:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: Re: X13+ Solar Flare Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Correction to my earlier post: My WOLF recording showed the effect around 1730 UTC. There appears to be a 1-hour discrepency between the computer clock and the WOLF time stamp. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:08:23 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ED4LM-0005K1-EK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:08:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ED4LM-0005J4-9F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:08:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ED4KI-00038P-Un for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:07:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ED4KI-00038G-Af for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:07:14 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ED4l3-0007OF-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:35:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 30462 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 18:06:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2005 18:06:55 -0000 Message-ID: <003901c5b3d7$03d6b370$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:07:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: X13+ Solar Flare Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) The sun just produced a flare rated at "X13+" according to the NASA site. The time was given as 1740 UTC. According to my daytime WOLF output from WD2XDW (2150 km), the signal took a huge jump around 1630 UTC. Laurence's signal had been well below the decoding threshold up to that point. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:12:02 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECkjZ-0000iK-R3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:12:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore15.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECkjZ-0000eQ-Lo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:12:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ECkij-00004q-D1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:11:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ECkii-0008WN-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:11:08 +0100 Received: from siaag1ag.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.13]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EClKP-0003wO-JI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:50:07 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ag.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-2.17) id j86LAxVg019349 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:07:49 -0400 From: boffin1 To: "INTERNET:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Message-ID: <200509061707_MC3-1-A905-6E98@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: re LF: Who is this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Message text written by INTERNET:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:47:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000601c5b289$8b37f0d0$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:47:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2005 02:47:34.0076 (UTC) FILETIME=[5546BFC0:01C5B28D] Subject: RE: LF: Re: XDW Jason slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit tnx lloyd - fairly noizy to the (USA) North from some of the online grabbers - cant download your capture at the moment as hotmail seems to have a purge on attachments. The tx seems ok here and ant current sitting at around 46A this evening....cheers for the report. Laurence kl1x >From: "chastant" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: Re: XDW Jason slow >Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:19:51 -0400 > >Laurence,seems like it started to copy and then not much..guess conditions >just went bad or???Wish I could show better copy.. >de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH >----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> >To: >Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:59 PM >Subject: LF: XDW Jason slow > > >>Fm 2150z Monday 137.7752 Khz Jason Slow >> >>Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq >>900 Watts or so into the loop >> >> ><< xdwjssept5.jpg >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:22:21 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECT6J-0003mL-NC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:22:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECT6J-0003mD-75 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:22:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ECT4Y-0005BX-V5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:20:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ECT4Y-0005BO-Jz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:20:30 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ECTUn-0004nv-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:47:38 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-21.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.21]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA11204 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:20:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c5b289$8b37f0d0$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:19:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: XDW Jason slow Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070400080705000706000503" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070400080705000706000503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laurence,seems like it started to copy and then not much..guess conditions just went bad or???Wish I could show better copy.. de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL1X" To: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: LF: XDW Jason slow > Fm 2150z Monday 137.7752 Khz Jason Slow > > 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(VPS 0536-0, 09/05/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: LF: new callsign DL4EAU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) >> Hi LF group, >> I'm qrv on lf. Rig is: transverter 10Mhz; PA 500W; ant inverted L >> toploaded abt. 300pF. My first qso are in normal cw. Looking for >> outside DL! hi >> >> I hope to connect a lot of you in the comming season. >> >> 73! Tom JO51DR Hi Tom On 29-01-2005 10:47 136.590 you were 539 and working DK7SU " 28-08-2005 14:25 136.567 you were 549 and calling CQ So, Yes you Can make it into PA ;-) 73 and see you some other time again. Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:02:04 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECJQ2-00055F-7Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:02:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECJQ2-00050R-3x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:02:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ECJOe-0003PV-4v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:00:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ECJOd-0003PM-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:00:35 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ECJzi-00069O-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:38:57 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.147] (helo=mx4.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.53) id 1ECJOW-0000DZ-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:00:28 +0200 Received: from p5486afa7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.134.175.167] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx4.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52 #11) id 1ECJOW-0004Xr-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: <431C4F78.3000507@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:00:24 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> <002901c5b1a7$a17b6300$da1e8751@Main> <005301c5b1a4$afc98660$ef0924d5@jeff> <1ECAub-1ZRMUi0@fwd35.aul.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1ECAub-1ZRMUi0@fwd35.aul.t-online.de> Subject: Re: LF: new callsign DL4EAU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Tom, Welcome to the reflector - and thanks for the QSO last weekend. Your signal was very strong in JO42FD, so it should have easily made it into PA, and most likely much further than that. You could see it on DF6NM's grabber: Your signal was actually a bit stronger than DK4U's signal in Nuremberg ! Best regards, Wolfgang "Wolf" DL4YHF / DF0WD / DK4U . DL4EAU@t-online.de schrieb: >Hi LF group, >I'm qrv on lf. Rig is: transverter 10Mhz; PA 500W; ant inverted L >toploaded abt. 300pF. >My first qso are in normal cw. Looking for outside DL! hi > >I hope to connect a lot of you in the comming season. > >73! Tom JO51DR > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:58:41 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECAwC-0002kz-MO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:58:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore16.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1ECAwC-0002ks-9j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:58:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ECAuj-00021e-D4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:57:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ECAui-00021V-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:57:08 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ECBKe-0006G4-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 08:23:57 +0100 Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ECAug-0003vV-04; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 08:57:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (JbQYSYZlremcJvqX2Q2bjQiBU-jUIujMAnvXXcfsJ-QlAp6gL5Im8k@[172.20.101.250]) by fwd35.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ECAub-1ZRMUi0; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:57:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005301c5b1a4$afc98660$ef0924d5@jeff> References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> <002901c5b1a7$a17b6300$da1e8751@Main> <005301c5b1a4$afc98660$ef0924d5@jeff> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:57:01 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-UMS: email X-Mailer: TOI Kommunikationscenter V6-0PL1 From: "DL4EAU@t-online.de" Message-ID: <1ECAub-1ZRMUi0@fwd35.aul.t-online.de> X-ID: JbQYSYZlremcJvqX2Q2bjQiBU-jUIujMAnvXXcfsJ-QlAp6gL5Im8k@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: b8287002-5c0f-4650-9ab2-e13967b2978a Subject: LF: new callsign DL4EAU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi LF group, I'm qrv on lf. Rig is: transverter 10Mhz; PA 500W; ant inverted L toploaded abt. 300pF. My first qso are in normal cw. Looking for outside DL! hi I hope to connect a lot of you in the comming season. 73! Tom JO51DR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:59:21 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC4OM-0004ss-2R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:59:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC4OL-0004rn-UB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:59:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC4NQ-0000ui-A0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:58:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC4NP-0000uZ-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:58:19 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC4nF-0004gX-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:25:02 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.9.239) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 430C454300215691 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:58:13 +0200 Message-ID: <005301c5b1a4$afc98660$ef0924d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> <002901c5b1a7$a17b6300$da1e8751@Main> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 00:02:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF calibration pb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) 04./09/2005 2340z Hi Alan, Thank you for the infos, i will use LORAN lines wen my stalitity will be better, for the moment it's not enough. I think, i must to continue to work on the DDS receiver ( 3 x AD9807). The road is long to LF DX! My best Wishes too Alan and see you son! Jeff / F6CWN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: LF: Re: LF calibration pb > Hi Jeff, I dont think we are totally sure of DCF39 although it is very > stable.....Markus DF6NM is likey to have the best reading for it. Loran-C is > cesium controlled so it a very good marker in the band. The "sidebands" can > be easily calculated to 1mHz. I have a program written by Andy G4JNT > specifically for Lessay which will calculate all the lines in a selected > frequency interval. Loran is only really useful when you know where you are > to about + / - 1Hz. The irregular spacing does help to identify which lines > you can see. The trick often is to look at the interval between the lines > (Andy's program tabulates these ) > > Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F6CWN" > To: "LF/EU" > Sent: 04 September 2005 15:04 > Subject: LF: LF calibration pb > > > 04./09/2005 1400z > > Hello LFers! > > To calibrate the LF receiver i would like to know the exact frequency of > the DCF39 transmitter( MARK). Is 138830.000 Hz OK? > Would anybody help me? > > Thanks in advance and 73 > > Jeff / F6CWN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:36:00 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC41n-0007bl-AJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:36:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC41n-0007bX-46 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:35:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC40z-0000mL-U5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:35:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC40z-0000mC-Fz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:35:09 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC4Qm-0004bv-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:01:51 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.9.239) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 430C454300215388 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:00 +0200 Message-ID: <004a01c5b1a1$71386720$ef0924d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:38:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: RE: LF calibration pb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
04./09/2005   2329z
 
Thank you Gary for the info, i am using BBC transmitter.
And now i understand wy my screen is so "striped".
(i just read the message from W1TAG about LORAN lines...     :-# )
A stone in my garden!
 
VY 73: Jeff : F6CWN / JN09TT
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 7:37 PM
Subject: LF: RE: LF calibration pb

Hi Jeff,
 
That is the frequency I use for DFC39 & calibration checks, I also use the BBC transmitter on 198.00 KHz.
 
Some more experienced operators use LORAN lines for very precise calibration but I can't advise you on that, maybe one of the others can.
 

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN
Sent: 04 September 2005 15:05
To: LF/EU
Subject: LF: LF calibration pb

04./09/2005   1400z
 
Hello LFers!
 
 To calibrate the LF receiver i would like to know the exact frequency of the DCF39 transmitter( MARK). Is 138830.000 Hz OK?
Would anybody help me?
 
 Thanks in advance and 73
 
Jeff / F6CWN
 
 
 
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:24:53 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC3r1-0003hc-Pt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:24:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC3r1-0003hK-Kc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:24:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC3q6-0000gt-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:23:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC3q6-0000gk-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:23:54 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC4Qs-0002ng-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:01:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 44233 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 23:23:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.135.30.218 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 23:23:46 -0000 Message-ID: <002901c5b1a7$a17b6300$da1e8751@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:40:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: LF: Re: LF calibration pb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Jeff, I dont think we are totally sure of DCF39 although it is very stable.....Markus DF6NM is likey to have the best reading for it. Loran-C is cesium controlled so it a very good marker in the band. The "sidebands" can be easily calculated to 1mHz. I have a program written by Andy G4JNT specifically for Lessay which will calculate all the lines in a selected frequency interval. Loran is only really useful when you know where you are to about + / - 1Hz. The irregular spacing does help to identify which lines you can see. The trick often is to look at the interval between the lines (Andy's program tabulates these ) Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "F6CWN" To: "LF/EU" Sent: 04 September 2005 15:04 Subject: LF: LF calibration pb 04./09/2005 1400z Hello LFers! To calibrate the LF receiver i would like to know the exact frequency of the DCF39 transmitter( MARK). Is 138830.000 Hz OK? Would anybody help me? Thanks in advance and 73 Jeff / F6CWN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:19:32 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC3lp-0002x5-4l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:19:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC3lp-0002wz-0i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:19:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC3kG-0000bU-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:17:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC3kD-0000bL-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:17:49 +0100 Received: from mx-out.tiscali.fr ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC4Kx-0002mB-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:55:50 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.9.239) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.1.026) id 430C48FB00220F2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: <003b01c5b19f$05e901c0$ef0924d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> <000f01c5b181$baf541a0$34cdf342@Laptop> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:21:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF calibration pb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) 04./09/2005 2302z Hello John, and the list, Many thanks for this fine informations. A good idea indeed! At the present time the equipment is 0.25 Hz drift for a full QRSS120 ARGO page,with 198.000 KHz BBC. For me a good step in comparison with the old receiver. Is TA receiving possible, the answer soon! This URL: scare! ( do not read this before to go to bed!) http://www.qsl.net/g4cnn/loranetc/loran.htm VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: LF: Re: LF calibration pb > Jeff, > > Here are some Loran line frequencies that might be of help: > > 135918.122 (Sylt) > > 135923.340 (Lessay) > > 135924.790 (Sylt) > > 137778.370 (Sylt) > > 137780.419 (Lessay) > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:44:17 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC1LZ-0007Uc-1Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:44:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC1LY-0007UP-TJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:44:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC1Kw-0000EV-Er for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:43:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC1Kw-0000EM-2J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:43:34 +0100 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC1vf-0002MO-3m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:32 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3EE271800083 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:43:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-17-176.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.176.176]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 072D8180008D for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:43:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050904204327294.072D8180008D@mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <431B5C6E.7090508@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:43:26 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <431B5B2E.6030904@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <431B5B2E.6030904@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: LF: Orages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Ooops, this was for our french LF_VLF list ... 73 Jean-Louis F6AGR Jean-L. RAULT a écrit : > Haut niveau de statiques sur 137,7 kHz ce soir ! > > http://meteocentre.com/lightning/map_sfuk.php?time=0&lang=fr&map=AEurope > nous montre un foyer orageux sur l'Atlantique qui s'approche par l'Ouest > > 73 > > JL F6AGR > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:39:17 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC1Gl-0001Xp-Pr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:39:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC1Gl-0001Xf-N8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:39:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC1Fp-00008Q-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:38:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC1Fo-00008H-LL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:38:16 +0100 Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.22]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC1qV-0002K4-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:16:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF5ED1C0017A for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:38:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-17-176.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.176.176]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF2E81C00179 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:38:07 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050904203807717.AF2E81C00179@mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <431B5B2E.6030904@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:38:06 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste LF RSGB Subject: LF: Orages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Haut niveau de statiques sur 137,7 kHz ce soir ! http://meteocentre.com/lightning/map_sfuk.php?time=0&lang=fr&map=AEurope nous montre un foyer orageux sur l'Atlantique qui s'approche par l'Ouest 73 JL F6AGR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:25:47 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC07b-0003x1-2J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:25:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EC07a-0003wm-Ve for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:25:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EC06g-0008OI-Sj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:24:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EC06g-0008O9-6k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:24:46 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC0WQ-0003aR-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:51:24 +0100 Received: from fwd19.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EC06d-0007bo-01; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:24:43 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Zwxkd2ZegeZLWCySqcFUyBkomco5a+T0ieIxDe1+XZiCQSQscydso2@[84.133.121.1]) by fwd19.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EC06Y-0pX1Fo0; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:24:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:24:38 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <477869982.20050904212438@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Zwxkd2ZegeZLWCySqcFUyBkomco5a+T0ieIxDe1+XZiCQSQscydso2 X-TOI-MSGID: 688fca62-9ad6-4ce9-8757-7bf8306961e8 Subject: LF: EU activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Added screenshots of G3YXM, F6BWO, DK4U, DL3ZID, DL2HRE and DL1RTN taken this weekend (3rd/4th) to my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:53:20 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBzcC-0007a4-S9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:53:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBzcC-0007Zi-Om for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:53:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBzbF-0008Fb-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:52:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBzbE-0008FS-Hh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:52:16 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EC0Bs-0001s9-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:30:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 18846 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 18:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.243.205.52) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2005 18:52:00 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c5b181$baf541a0$34cdf342@Laptop> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c5b159$b4fe5660$699924d5@jboi0045tiscali> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:51:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: LF: Re: LF calibration pb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Jeff, Here are some Loran line frequencies that might be of help: 135918.122 (Sylt) 135923.340 (Lessay) 135924.790 (Sylt) 137778.370 (Sylt) 137780.419 (Lessay) John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:38:10 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBzNa-0004Xd-8O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:38:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore13.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBzNa-0004XU-3v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:38:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBzMa-0008Ao-Jg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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Hi Jeff,
 
That is the frequency I use for DFC39 & calibration checks, I also use the BBC transmitter on 198.00 KHz.
 
Some more experienced operators use LORAN lines for very precise calibration but I can't advise you on that, maybe one of the others can.
 

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN
Sent: 04 September 2005 15:05
To: LF/EU
Subject: LF: LF calibration pb

04./09/2005   1400z
 
Hello LFers!
 
 To calibrate the LF receiver i would like to know the exact frequency of the DCF39 transmitter( MARK). Is 138830.000 Hz OK?
Would anybody help me?
 
 Thanks in advance and 73
 
Jeff / F6CWN
 
 
 
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:51:40 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EByeZ-0005Ac-Du for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:51:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EByeZ-0005AV-86 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:51:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBye5-00080p-5a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:51:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBye2-00080g-KD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:51:06 +0100 Received: from web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBz3l-0003AY-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:17:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 43725 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2005 17:50:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=L3KqNopawpFnKrkyxMQj+FtPdyJkdRIFev6KlKqX3vHivfji/W7ciQuvbw4OgFjQ1woq7U3wFZz9Ag0JOF77isAp1gBYV8pujq3Ebiyp3MiP2VIHRlp45NY4xNwpzTdDMxS0AlmG1GThQlejCgnuUN+N/HQRV0ALJJv6t++Betg= ; Message-ID: <20050904175058.43723.qmail@web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:50:58 BST Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:50:58 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Who is this? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00)
Hi Dave -
 
I guess it was me - time and frequency look right and I can just make out TEST DE G3YKB from your screenshot. It was A1 morse at 1 wpm (about 1 second per dot).
 
73 Brian

Dave G3WCB <ganymede444@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Does anybody recognise this signal, received at about 1330utc. Quite strong, but I don't recognize the mode. QRSS with hum?
 
 

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Dear LF,
 
Does anybody recognise this signal, received at about 1330utc. Quite strong, but I don't recognize the mode. QRSS with hum?
 
73 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
 
 
 
 
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04./09/2005   1400z
 
Hello LFers!
 
 To calibrate the LF receiver i would like to know the exact frequency of the DCF39 transmitter( MARK). Is 138830.000 Hz OK?
Would anybody help me?
 
 Thanks in advance and 73
 
Jeff / F6CWN
 
 
 
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:47:11 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBq9f-0008PC-BW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:47:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBq9f-0008OX-6e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:47:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBq8s-0006d4-A9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:46:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBq8r-0006cv-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:46:21 +0100 Received: from cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.24] helo=mta.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBqYS-0000m7-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:12:49 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl ([83.85.106.243]) by cas-mta2.mgmt.casema.nl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IMA00EZ8B12GF80@cas-mta2.mgmt.casema.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:48:01 +0200 From: Dick Rollema In-reply-to: <00d501c5b0e9$cb0fb540$e19e24d5@jboi0045tiscali> X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050904103825.01de59a0@127.0.0.1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0535-3, 02-09-2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <00d501c5b0e9$cb0fb540$e19e24d5@jboi0045tiscali> Subject: Re: LF: PA0SE this night Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Jeff,

Many thanks for the useful report and screenshot.

The transmission was QRSS60 DFCW.

The frequency was about 135920 Hz, not 135922 Hz, as I inadvertently announced yesterday in my message to Dave and Gary.

Visible is a slight frequency drift during keying, probably due to heating of the crystal, which oscillates on  64 times the transmit frequency.

At 02:44 4-9-05, you wrote:
04./09/2005   0034z
 
Hello the list,
 
 Just after changing the oscillator of my SPM3 receiver by a synthetizer, i received PA0SE in QRSS30 on 135908 Hz (???). A super signal ~23 dB above the noise level!
Please can you confirm your transmit frequency Dick?
 
VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN  JN09TT
 
 
 
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04./09/2005   0034z
 
Hello the list,
 
 Just after changing the oscillator of my SPM3 receiver by a synthetizer, i received PA0SE in QRSS30 on 135908 Hz (???). A super signal ~23 dB above the noise level!
Please can you confirm your transmit frequency Dick?
 
VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN  JN09TT
 
 
 
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Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:24:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBeYq-0003rY-EE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:24:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBeYp-0003rP-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:24:23 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBeyC-00009S-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:50:39 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j83KOKqv078754 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 22:24:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <431A0675.3080707@xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:24:21 +0200 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0535-3, 09/02/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Hi LF, > > Transmitting now, 135923.5 KHz, QRSS30, "WGT" x 5, then CW ID 6wpm. ........ Hi Gary, group and others The grabber at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm is on agn and will be till i drop ..... Just a saturday night thing here ;-) I see i am allmost on frequency for a change, 1Hz off as far as i can see PA0SE has been heating up things here all day so it should be stable. 73 Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:51:43 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBe3D-0008R6-7R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:51:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBe3D-0008Qu-3h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:51:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBe2T-0003jv-1x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:50:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBe2S-0003jm-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBece-0005fa-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:28:23 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2005 20:50:47 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+o= X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,166,1122850800"; d="scan'208"; a="10214329:sNHT49821744" Received: from dsl-80-43-26-59.access.as9105.com ([80.43.26.59]:1521 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EBe0O-000HkT-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:48:48 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 20:51:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi LF, Transmitting now, 135923.5 KHz, QRSS30, "WGT" x 5, then CW ID 6wpm. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:31:11 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBZ30-0005y3-As for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:31:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore17.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBZ30-0005xk-7K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:31:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBZ1W-0003DP-KZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:29:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBZ1W-0003DG-97 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:29:38 +0100 Received: from cas-mta4-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.32] helo=mta.casema.nl) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBZQp-00075L-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:55:48 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl ([83.85.106.243]) by cas-mta4.mgmt.casema.nl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IM800FGIW97RO10@cas-mta4.mgmt.casema.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:33:19 +0200 From: Dick Rollema X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl#mail.casema.nl@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) To: LF-Group Message-id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050903162915.01de40a0@127.0.0.1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0535-3, 02-09-2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: LF: PA0SE Testing Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Thanks Dave and Gary for report and screenshot. I will be on the air tonight using QRSS60 DFCW and starting about 21OO UTC. Frequency 135922 Hz. 73, Dick, PA0SE JO22GD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:30:36 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBXAK-0003z8-BK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:30:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EBXAK-0003yl-29 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:30:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EBXA1-0002zR-C1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:30:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EBXA0-0002zI-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:30:16 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EBXk3-0004Ju-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:07:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 10532 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 12:30:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@86.132.159.244 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 12:30:06 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:30:36 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: LF: RE: PA0SE Testing Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020700080705060001080106" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020700080705060001080106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF, Gary, Seen here also...I didn't see Dick until I looked at Marcus's grabber, because he was transmitting just above my Argo receive band. 73, Dace G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 03 September 2005 13:02 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Subject: LF: PA0SE Testing Hi All, Just seen PA0SE testing this morning, "O" signal. 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3 Sep 2005 13:02:22 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: PA0SE Testing Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020001060707070804070603" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020001060707070804070603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, Just seen PA0SE testing this morning, "O" signal. 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00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:24:25 +0100 Received: by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB8ie-0004mo-Ba for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:24:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB8ie-0004mR-5X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:24:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EB8h7-0000HQ-Nw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EB8h7-0000HH-8f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:22:49 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EB9Ge-0006ho-Pg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:59:33 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER 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Dear friends,
           The beacon DI2AG is again on air with 0.5W ERP and QRSS3 on 440.044KHz.
73    Walter     DJ2LF
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB0GM-0004rh-9w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EB0GM-0004rS-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:22:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EB0Ey-0007oW-8M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:21:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EB0Ex-0007oN-T2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:21:11 +0100 Received: from bay102-f21.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.31] helo=hotmail.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EB0dh-0003rY-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:46:46 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:21:04 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:21:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:21:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2005 01:21:04.0494 (UTC) FILETIME=[966460E0:01C5AF5C] Subject: LF: XDW Jason slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit xdw Jason slow started 0120Z 137.7752 Khz 1Kw em26aq oklahoma Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw prayers to all those South of me.