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From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Greetings from a soggy Oklahoma.

Im transmitting my first attempts at Jason slow v0.99 appx  137.7752 Khz 
centre using the GPS Ref's TS870 txing 5.137 Mhz and  homebrewed  VK 
transverter with Gps' ref LO at 5Mhz plus amp appx 800w output. Any reports 
appreciated but its  the big "e" in experimental so cant guarantee Ill be on 
all the time.

LF Iono - Its really noisy and inter USA LF signals over the past 3 days 
have been the worst Ive ever seen here.  Not just noise but the lactual 
evels during the nighttime have been lower than Ive seen before. Thank 
goodness for Bryces, Steves and others grabbers otherwise I though I was 
only heating up the Okie soil, Goldfish, occasional passing Armadillo and 
the a sole groundhog which has taken up residence under the tx loop. Weve 
proved emptying the 18ft plastic swimming pool, it being  located midway 
along the "ground" leg of the loop doesnt change the loops parameters that I 
can detect with the M0BMU phase/power meter.

Laurence KL1x/5 em26aq oklahoma.




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WD2XES will be running in JASON Slow mode with 200 watts on 137.779 kHz for
a few nights, starting around 0000 UTC each night.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES




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Due to local thunderstorms WD2XGJ is signing off the air at 03:15 UTC on 15 August.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Mike,<br>
<br>
&nbsp; I seem to recall to have received a report a couple of years ago
saying that somebody (don't&nbsp; remember who)<br>
did succeed in running Argo under some Windows emulator (maybe it was
Wine).<br>
<br>
At the risk of being flamed (please don't) my opinion about Linux is
that it is an excellent OS for running<br>
server applications, but as far as the desktop PC is concerned, it
still lacks some user friendliness and ease of<br>
use when compared to Windows. I have Fedora Core 4 installed on my
multi boot PC, and so can compare<br>
directly Win XP and Linux on the same hardware. Linux is slower,
expecially in the GUI part, and, speaking <br>
from a developer point of view, it still lacks some development tools
that Windows has.<br>
<br>
I am convinced that this situation will change in a few years, if the
current momentum in favor of Linux will<br>
continue. Then probably I will make myself the switchover, producing
Linux versions of Argo/Spectran/SDRadio<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
73&nbsp; Alberto&nbsp; I2PHD<br>
-----------------------------------------<br>
</font></font><br>
WE0H Mike wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid42FDB207.1090205@genesiswireless.us" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Thanks,

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI


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Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Thanks,

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI


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XDW back on 180W WOLF and CW ID. Carrier 137.422 Khz 2240z 8th August

Laurence KL1X/5
em26aq oklahoma!!
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XDW on 2130z  7th Aug 137.422 KHz  WOLF 150W or so until advised.

Laurence KL1X/5 Bartlesville OK
em26aq




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137,422 KHz Wolf 200W  - Ill run it till around 13Z UTC  Friday then  XDW 
will be off for a few days.

Laurence KL1X/5
em26aq bartlesville OK




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WD2XDW WOLF 137.422 KHz 200W output 0045Z 3rd Aug 05 until advised

Nice M3 flare caused good daylight XDW peak today at 1830Z on Steves W3EEE 
grabber - hint of the same on DCF39 perhaps.

Laurence KL1X EM26AQ
Oklahoma
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WD2XDW back on 137.7752 to appx 137.7757 Khz with stepped increases in 
carrier freq by 0.08Hz around 90 secs period  for each carrier period. CW id 
  and info is also on. Power is around 800W from the PA.

Im off tune by about 0.9dB and ill adjust that tonight. Guess a tree branch 
must have moved as I need more "C" on the loop

Laurence KL1X em26aq
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=430161620-30082005>I'm 
beaconing on 137,780 kHz to try out Ingolf's grabber. QRSS60 200W RF out. Will 
probably continue until 2100 utc, PA cooling permitting.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=430161620-30082005>73, 
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  </B>OZ7QC<BR><B>Sent:</B> 30 August 2005 16:29<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Argo Screen on TA 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am running a experimental Argo screen capture 
  web site at the moment on </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
  href="http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm">http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so please fel free to use it, at the moment a new 
  picture are uploade every 15 min</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but the site will update every 1 
min.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC</FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Dave,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your report, yes the calibration is not 
so good yet&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but I will work on it allso to get the clock in 
sync.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=dave@picks.force9.co.uk href="mailto:dave@picks.force9.co.uk">Dave 
  Pick</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:56 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: Argo Screen on TA 
  window</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Ingolf</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>I sent a minute of carrier at 1722 and could see it very 
  well on your grabber. My frequency was set at 137.777 but your grabber shows 
  it as 137.776 I will check my calibration&nbsp;later.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>The clock on the Argo trace is about 5 minutes 
  slow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the useful facility, it will be very good for 
  testing antennas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Dave G</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
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  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
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    <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>OZ7QC<BR><B>Sent:</B> 30 August 2005 16:29<BR><B>To:</B> 
    rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Argo Screen on TA 
    window<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am running a experimental Argo screen capture 
    web site at the moment on </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
    href="http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm">http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so please fel free to use it, at the moment a 
    new picture are uploade every 15 min</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but the site will update every 1 
    min.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC</FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>I sent a minute of carrier at 1722 and could see it very 
well on your grabber. My frequency was set at 137.777 but your grabber shows it 
as 137.776 I will check my calibration&nbsp;later.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>The clock on the Argo trace is about 5 minutes 
slow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the useful facility, it will be very good for 
testing antennas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Dave G</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312213816-30082005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] <B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>OZ7QC<BR><B>Sent:</B> 30 August 2005 16:29<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Argo Screen on TA 
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am running a experimental Argo screen capture 
  web site at the moment on </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
  href="http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm">http://www.oz7qc.dk/argo1.htm</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so please fel free to use it, at the moment a new 
  picture are uploade every 15 min</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but the site will update every 1 
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g3ldo wrote:
> I am giving up LF transmitting because of other work in amateur radio....
> ...................Regards,
> Peter Dodd, G3LDO

Dear Peter.
Thanks for your signals on 73 and 136, hope to see you some day on 600 
Meters ;-)
73 and Good Luck.
Ko, NL9222.







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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dear Peter 
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry to hear you leaving 
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forward to &nbsp;reading&nbsp;&nbsp;your articles in the future I wish you lots 
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<P>Hi Peter,&nbsp; Sorry to hear that you are leaving 136kHz, but&nbsp;since you were one of the originals I'm sure that you&nbsp;will be keeping an eye on us ! </P>
<P>We had a lot of fun on LF.</P>
<P>Best of luck with the Antenna work , I look forward to&nbsp;seeing your articles.</P>
<P>Laurie.&nbsp;</P>

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<font size=3>Dear Peter,<br><br>
I am sorry that you leave LF but fully understand the reason
why.<br><br>
I still fondly remember my very first QSO on 136 kHz: it was&nbsp; with
you on&nbsp; 24 August 1998.&nbsp; It was almost&nbsp; as thrilling as my
first QSO as PA0SE in 1951.<br><br>
Good luck with your writing Peter. I always enjoy your articles in RadCom
and Practical Wireless.<br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE<br><br>
At 00:23 30-8-05, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I am giving up LF transmitting
because of other work in amateur radio.<br>
Some of you may be aware that I write the 'Antennas' column for RadCom
and I<br>
need the fold-over mast for other projects.<br>
Also I have been involved in LF transmitting since the early days of
73kHz<br>
and I feel that it is time to move on although I will still be maintaing
an<br>
interest on receiving LF signals.<br><br>
Consequently I will be disposing of my Decca PA and a large Decca
loading<br>
coil, pictures of which can be seen on my web page.<br><br>
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Peter Dodd, G3LDO<br><br>
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Peter - good luck with the new projects though I do expect the occasional 
Sussex LF report from where-ever I end up next.
It was good to see your 137Khz signal in Alaska and appreciate the impromptu 
on site Sussex visit which spurred this station to come on air. The Decca 
5501 is a classic and hope its heat sinks are warm soon

Laurence KL1X/5, Oklahoma
137.7752/5Khz stepped staircase





>From: "g3ldo" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
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>
>I am giving up LF transmitting because of other work in amateur radio.
>




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Peter,

> I am giving up LF transmitting because of other work in amateur radio.

I'm sorry to hear of it, and will miss that strong signal. 

John Andrews, W1TAG



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I am giving up LF transmitting because of other work in amateur radio.
Some of you may be aware that I write the 'Antennas' column for RadCom and I
need the fold-over mast for other projects.
Also I have been involved in LF transmitting since the early days of 73kHz
and I feel that it is time to move on although I will still be maintaing an
interest on receiving LF signals.

Consequently I will be disposing of my Decca PA and a large Decca loading
coil, pictures of which can be seen on my web page.

Regards,
Peter Dodd, G3LDO

e-mail <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>

Web <http://web.ukonline.co.uk/g3ldo>




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<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi, 
Chris, LF,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I was 
working Jeff, F6BWO at 1020z, "O" signals both way. I also called PA3EGO who was 
testing on QRSS10/137720 at 1412z, but no QSO.&nbsp;I also caught the tail end 
of a QRSS3 (CQ?) call from PA0BWL at about the same.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>At 
1151z I saw DK4U in QSO with DF6NM, both in HELL mode, "O" and "M" reports 
respectively.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
could just about hear M0FMT on CW amongst all the Loran clatter, but the ICOM 
PC-R1000 is rather too broad for CW work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There 
wasn't much QRN, and there were quite a few stations about.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=305374021-29082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>73, 
Dave G3WCB IO91RM.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>CHRISTOPHER 
  OSBORN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29 August 2005 22:33<BR><B>To:</B> LF 
  group<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Weekend activity - G3XIZ<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Activity seems to be picking up at last.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Sat</DIV>
  <DIV>0950&nbsp;&nbsp; Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  G3WCB calling&nbsp;&nbsp;- DFCW</DIV>
  <DIV>0918&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;M0FMT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -&nbsp;CW</DIV>
  <DIV>1020&nbsp;&nbsp; Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;G3WCB&nbsp; in QSO with (?)&nbsp;- DFCW</DIV>
  <DIV>1023&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3WCB&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -&nbsp;&nbsp;DFCW / QRSS3</DIV>
  <DIV>1055&nbsp;&nbsp; Called by&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  DK4U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp; HELL&nbsp;- Kindly gave WCB / 
  XIZ&nbsp;reports and 73</DIV>
  <DIV>Sun</DIV>
  <DIV>1620&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3OLB&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;- CW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;- Great to hear Tom after some time.</DIV>
  <DIV>1702&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M0FMT&nbsp; &nbsp; 
  -&nbsp;CW</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I've had some success with my new H/B RX but&nbsp;a little&nbsp;of 
  &nbsp;the DCF39 signal is&nbsp;bypassing the crystal filter ! Doh !</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
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<DIV>Activity seems to be picking up at last.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sat</DIV>
<DIV>0950&nbsp;&nbsp; Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3WCB calling&nbsp;&nbsp;- DFCW</DIV>
<DIV>0918&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;M0FMT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp;CW</DIV>
<DIV>1020&nbsp;&nbsp; Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;G3WCB&nbsp; in QSO with (?)&nbsp;- DFCW</DIV>
<DIV>1023&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3WCB&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp;DFCW / QRSS3</DIV>
<DIV>1055&nbsp;&nbsp; Called by&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DK4U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp; HELL&nbsp;- Kindly gave WCB / XIZ&nbsp;reports and 73</DIV>
<DIV>Sun</DIV>
<DIV>1620&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; G3OLB&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;- CW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;- Great to hear Tom after some time.</DIV>
<DIV>1702&nbsp;&nbsp; Worked&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M0FMT&nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp;CW</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've had some success with my new H/B RX but&nbsp;a little&nbsp;of &nbsp;the DCF39 signal is&nbsp;bypassing the crystal filter ! Doh !</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ</DIV><p>
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Thanks Hartmut <br>
<br>
&nbsp;RA3YO beacon "YO" qrss120 137778.5<br>
<br>
Dmitri<br>
<br>
Hartmut Wolff wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid511964855.20050829165756@t-online.de">
  <pre wrap="">The attached screenshot captured last night 2230 UTC on 137.7785 kHz.
Some attenuation on the signal because the Antenna was beaming west.


73
Hartmut

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Thank-you Hartmut.  I was watching Alan's propagaion reports
and he indicated things would improve after that Kp9 flare.
Running 60 watts 0.8 amps to a 100m wire. A 100m counterpoise
on the ground draws most of the earth current.  Very
little goes to the copper rod.  There is no connection to
the mains earth.

73
Joe

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Copied a weak "NA" in QRSS60 mode last night 2345-0000 UTC.
> This was the first readable trans-Atlantic signal since the 24th of
> August.
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
> Locator:JO52ho
> www.h-wolff.de
>
>
>


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Copied a weak "NA" in QRSS60 mode last night 2345-0000 UTC.
This was the first readable trans-Atlantic signal since the 24th of
August.

73
Hartmut

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The attached screenshot captured last night 2230 UTC on 137.7785 kHz.
Some attenuation on the signal because the Antenna was beaming west.


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de
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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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<DIV><SPAN class=227381712-29082005><FONT size=2>Hi Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=227381712-29082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=227381712-29082005><FONT size=2>It was me testing as Dave has 
shown with his screen shot BUT in the earlier part of the evening I was running 
the DFCW03&nbsp;inverted by mistake. Normally dashes at top (see Dave's screen 
shot) on your screen shot&nbsp;dots at top.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=227381712-29082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=227381712-29082005>
<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29 August 2005 00:10<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: 
  TEST?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>28./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2251z</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Dave!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Thank for the info, dots on the top or&nbsp;at the 
  bottom... that is the question!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>So, i will be QRV&nbsp; next days from JN18CW with the same 
  equiment</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;6 turns 2.2 meter dia loop but 20mm wire instead of 
  7.8 mm.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Results soon!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>73 Dave and see you soon.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Jeff&nbsp; / F6CWN&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=ganymede444@btopenworld.com 
    href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
    href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:43 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TEST?</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>Jeff, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>It's Gary G4WGT 
    testing...(see attached screenshot)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
    IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
      [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
      </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 August 2005 22:00<BR><B>To:</B> 
      LF/EU<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TEST?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff / 
F6CWN</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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<DIV><FONT size=2>28./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2251z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Dave!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Thank for the info, dots on the top or&nbsp;at the 
bottom... that is the question!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>So, i will be QRV&nbsp; next days from JN18CW with the same 
equiment</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;6 turns 2.2 meter dia loop but 20mm wire instead of 7.8 
mm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Results soon!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>73 Dave and see you soon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jeff&nbsp; / F6CWN&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=ganymede444@btopenworld.com 
  href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>Jeff, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>It's Gary G4WGT 
  testing...(see attached screenshot)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=692064022-28082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
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    </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 August 2005 22:00<BR><B>To:</B> 
    LF/EU<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TEST?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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Hello Alberto,

I finally got time to put the "sndvol32.exe" file you sent me into
my Windows directory, and now when I click on the Options|
Select Input, I get the mixer screen!  However, I'm still having
a few snags, the first being that I'm not seeing anything in the
vertical bar on the left side of Jason like I do in Argo, and if
I click on "X" to close the program, it won't close.  Thanks
for your assistance, it's much appreciated.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
EN93dr




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Hartmut Wolff wrote:
> Ko,
> 
> this was DG0RG captured here also. Attached is a screenshot taken a
> bit earlier.
> 
> 73
> Hartmut

Thanks Hartmut
I guess i never seen him before, or i hope so :-)
73 Ko, NL9222





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Ko,

this was DG0RG captured here also. Attached is a screenshot taken a
bit earlier.

73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de




> Hi all
> Or, who was this between 10:35 and 10:40 on .690
> Thanks Ko, NL9222
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<DIV>May thanks for the report and screen shot&nbsp;Hartmut.</DIV>
<DIV>Hopefully I shall soon have more power from&nbsp;my new TX.</DIV>
<DIV>Keep up the good work.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73 Chris G3XIZ<BR><BR><B><I>Hartmut Wolff &lt;wolff.h@t-online.de&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Chris,<BR>nice signal here near Wolfsburg. See attachement.<BR><BR>73<BR>Hartmut<BR><BR>Locator:JO52ho<BR>www.h-wolff.de</BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Hi All at Lf,

Testing/beaconing tonight with DFCW10 135923.0 - 135923.5 or as near as I
can get.
Sending "G4WGT TEST" & CWID 6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP"
Reports welcome.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


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Tnx Dave fr call very small ant. 2 times 15 meter

And 2 meter vert.

Gl. 73s wim pa3ego

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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Namens Dave G3WCB
Verzonden: zaterdag 27 augustus 2005 17:24
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Onderwerp: LF: PA3EGO...

Good signal from PA3EGO testing QRSS10 at 1430 utc in IO91RM. See
attachment.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM.





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Seen here also..

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: 27 August 2005 16:42
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: UNID TEST


The attached UNID "TEST" was captured 1530 UTC.
  

73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de
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Chris,
nice signal here near Wolfsburg. See attachement.

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Hi, Jeff,
That's impressive...you must have a very good RX setup!

-----Original Message-----
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25./08/2005   2014z

 Hello DAVE, Hartmut and the list,

 It's you Dave, no doubt!

 Clear audio 22dB above noise level!
Congratulations and 73: Jeff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:08 PM
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> Hartmut,
> 
> Thanks for the nice screenshot. 200W rf /1,8A, as usual.
> 
> Jeff, F6CWN... I think you saw the end of my call-sign when I was testing
> earlier, DFCW10. Nice screenshot also!
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
> Sent: 25 August 2005 20:53
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: G3WCB
> 
> 
> Dave,
> nice signal here in Germany near Wolfsburg. See attachment.
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> 
> Locator:JO52ho
> www.h-wolff.de
> 
> 
> 
> 



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25./08/2005   2014z

 Hello DAVE, Hartmut and the list,

 It's you Dave, no doubt!

 Clear audio 22dB above noise level!
Congratulations and 73: Jeff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: LF: RE: G3WCB


> Hartmut,
> 
> Thanks for the nice screenshot. 200W rf /1,8A, as usual.
> 
> Jeff, F6CWN... I think you saw the end of my call-sign when I was testing
> earlier, DFCW10. Nice screenshot also!
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
> Sent: 25 August 2005 20:53
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: G3WCB
> 
> 
> Dave,
> nice signal here in Germany near Wolfsburg. See attachment.
> 
> 
> 73
> Hartmut
> 
> Locator:JO52ho
> www.h-wolff.de
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hartmut,

Thanks for the nice screenshot. 200W rf /1,8A, as usual.

Jeff, F6CWN... I think you saw the end of my call-sign when I was testing
earlier, DFCW10. Nice screenshot also!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

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Dave,
nice signal here in Germany near Wolfsburg. See attachment.


73
Hartmut

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Dave,
nice signal here in Germany near Wolfsburg. See attachment.


73
Hartmut

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No TA signals seen last night... Will listen again tonite..

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Hi Dave,

   Very nice setup with the Icom computer contriolled receiver.  Your attached capture from the 23rd is definitely XGJ. Thanks for sending it.
I would like to try and receive your 137 signal when the conditions quiet down here.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi


> 
> Hi, Warren.
> 
> Sorry about the call-sign. I guess it must be XGJ, from the frequency.
> 
> I also got copy from the night of 23rd, around 0430 utc (attached). I think
> there's a definite "XGJ" in the middle of the clip. I reckon the QRB is
> about 5580 km. I also saw some of the XES Jason "fuzz", but it's not very
> visible in this shot.
> 
> I'm using an ICOM PC-R1000 on LSB with a tuned FET pre-amp. The antenna is a
> Tee at 7m, with a 30m top, tuned with the obligatory plastic pail variometer
> wound with about 250m of wire. On the transmit side, I run 200W out, which
> gives me 1.8A antenna current.
> 
> The Icom RX is stable as a rock on 137 kHz, but the IF filter is a bit wide,
> and it needs the pre-amp/preselector to keep the intermod down. Best of all,
> my XYL doesn't realise it's actually a radio at all ;-)
> 
> 
> I'll listen again tonight, as the QRN levels are quite low.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (Near Windsor, Berks)
> 
> 
> http://www.qrz.com/detail/G3WCB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Warren
> K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> Sent: 24 August 2005 21:19
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: TA 23/24 Aug...
> 
> 
> Hi Dave,
>    Thanks for the capture.  I take it thats XGJ? The frequency looks to be
> close
> - XGJ is at 137.7796.
> What is your receive setup?
> 
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> FN42hi
> 
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> FN42hi
> 
> 
> > Very quiet on the LF Reflector these past couple of days...
> >
> > Weak traces of XDJ at around 0300 utc this morning.
> >
> > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >
> >
> >
> 


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Hi, Warren.

Sorry about the call-sign. I guess it must be XGJ, from the frequency.

I also got copy from the night of 23rd, around 0430 utc (attached). I think
there's a definite "XGJ" in the middle of the clip. I reckon the QRB is
about 5580 km. I also saw some of the XES Jason "fuzz", but it's not very
visible in this shot.

I'm using an ICOM PC-R1000 on LSB with a tuned FET pre-amp. The antenna is a
Tee at 7m, with a 30m top, tuned with the obligatory plastic pail variometer
wound with about 250m of wire. On the transmit side, I run 200W out, which
gives me 1.8A antenna current.

The Icom RX is stable as a rock on 137 kHz, but the IF filter is a bit wide,
and it needs the pre-amp/preselector to keep the intermod down. Best of all,
my XYL doesn't realise it's actually a radio at all ;-)


I'll listen again tonight, as the QRN levels are quite low.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM (Near Windsor, Berks)


http://www.qrz.com/detail/G3WCB




-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: LF: TA 23/24 Aug...


Hi Dave,
   Thanks for the capture.  I take it thats XGJ? The frequency looks to be
close
- XGJ is at 137.7796.
What is your receive setup?


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi


> Very quiet on the LF Reflector these past couple of days...
>
> Weak traces of XDJ at around 0300 utc this morning.
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
>
>


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<DIV><FONT size=2>24./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1745z</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2>73: Jeff / F6CWN&nbsp;/JN09TT</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Hartmut Wolff a écrit :

>Sorry forgot the attachement in my first mail.
>
>Hartmut
>
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>  
>
>>Captured  a test from F5MAF on 137.68 kHz. See Attachement.
>>    
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>  
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>>73
>>Hartmut
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>>Locator:JO52ho
>>www.h-wolff.de
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Thanks Hartmut for your attachement.
250W on T antenna 2x30m long and 8m high
Courant antenna : 1.8A
Locator JN03PQ
In test with Jeff F6CWN and F4DTL expedition (portable).

regards
Marc F5MAF
www.qsl.net/f5maf



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ" <k2ors@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 16:19
Subject: Re: LF: TA 23/24 Aug...


> Hi Dave,
>    Thanks for the capture.  I take it thats XGJ? The frequency looks to be
close
> - XGJ is at 137.7796.
> What is your receive setup?
>
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> FN42hi
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
> FN42hi
>
>
> > Very quiet on the LF Reflector these past couple of days...
> >
> > Weak traces of XDJ at around 0300 utc this morning.
> >
> > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>




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Hi Dave,
   Thanks for the capture.  I take it thats XGJ? The frequency looks to be close 
- XGJ is at 137.7796.
What is your receive setup?


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi


> Very quiet on the LF Reflector these past couple of days...
> 
> Weak traces of XDJ at around 0300 utc this morning.
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
> 
> 
>  


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Sorry forgot the attachement in my first mail.

Hartmut


> Captured  a test from F5MAF on 137.68 kHz. See Attachement.



> 73
> Hartmut

> Locator:JO52ho
> www.h-wolff.de
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Captured  a test from F5MAF on 137.68 kHz. See Attachement.



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Very quiet on the LF Reflector these past couple of days...

Weak traces of XDJ at around 0300 utc this morning.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM


 

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Dear LF group,

Week-end Activity Log at IO91RM

Sat 20 Aug 2005

G3XIZ working F6BWO QRSS3 137.685/690 at about 1300 utc, "O" copy both
stations at this location.

G4WGT beacon QRSS30 137.785 at about 2100 utc, "O" copy QRSS3 rx mode.

Sun 21 Aug 2005

G3XIZ CQ CW at about 0830 utc, RST 559

DL2HRE CQ DFCW3 at about 0920utc, "T" copy

I worked F6BWO DFCW5/QRSS3 at 0925 utc, "M" and "O" reports exchanged.

DK4U DFCW5? working F6BWO QRSS3 at 0955utc."O" copy both stations at this
location.

G3YKB CQ PSK31 137.500 at 1012utc no reply

I worked PA0BWL DFCW5/QRSS3 137.694/137703 at 1045, "O" reports exchanged.
First QSO with Wil for me.

G3YKB calling PA0BWL DFCW3 at 1145 utc, no reply, "O" copy here.

DK4U CQ HELL 137.710 at 1230 utc, then with a message for HA6PX at 1240 utc.

G4WGT beacon QRSS30 137.785 at about 1900 utc, "O" copy QRSS3 rx mode.

I also saw/heard, but couldn't copy, one or two weak European CW signals
during the morning.

Quite a lot of activity by summer-time standards, and the band was
relatively QRN-free for a change.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM




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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Hi All LF,

During beaconing last night suddenly went off air due to PSU failure,
investigated tonight & PA supply bridge rectifier gone down, now fitted
replacement & running fine.

137780.5, QRSS30, 400 watts, antenna current 2.2A, sending "WGT" & CW ID
6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP".

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Hartmut,

Thanks, I have you in the database now.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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 Hi Gary,

 Locator is JO52HO, about 20km northwest of Wolfsburg.

 73
 Hartmut


> Hi Hartmut,

> Thanks for that screenshot, it looks good even on QRSS03, what is your
> location? I have no record of your QTH.

> 73 es Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor




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 Hi Gary,

 Locator is JO52HO, about 20km northwest of Wolfsburg.

 73
 Hartmut


> Hi Hartmut,

> Thanks for that screenshot, it looks good even on QRSS03, what is your
> location? I have no record of your QTH.

> 73 es Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Hi Hartmut,

Thanks for that screenshot, it looks good even on QRSS03, what is your
location? I have no record of your QTH.

73 es Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
Sent: 21 August 2005 20:06
To: Gary - G4WGT
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Test/Beacon


Hi Gary,

attached a screenshot taken from the QRSS3 screen.

73
Hartmut


> Hi LF,

> Beacon on again, 137780.5, QRSS60, 500 watts, sending "WGT" followed by CW
> ID " G4WGT LOC IO83QP".

> Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Hi Gary,

attached a screenshot taken from the QRSS3 screen.

73
Hartmut


> Hi LF,

> Beacon on again, 137780.5, QRSS60, 500 watts, sending "WGT" followed by CW
> ID " G4WGT LOC IO83QP".

> Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
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Hi LF,

Looks like the e-mail got scrambled!!!

It should read:-

Beacon on again, 137780.5, QRSS60, 500 watts, sending "WGT" followed by CW
ID " G4WGT LOC IO83QP".

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Subject: LF: Test/Beacon



Hi LF,

BeacRegards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtayloron again on 137780.5, QRSS60, 500
watts, sending "WGT" followed by CW ID "G4WGT LOC IO83QP".





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Hi LF,

BeacRegards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtayloron again on 137780.5, QRSS60, 500
watts, sending "WGT" followed by CW ID "G4WGT LOC IO83QP".




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G4WGT
Very strong QRSS60 signal. Good copy on the QRSS3 screen.

RA3YO
Poor reception of the QRSS60 signal from the backside of my antenna
2210-2330 UTC.

VO1NA
Good copy of the QRSS30 signal 0000-0030 and 0100-0130. First traces
appeared 2315. Lost the signal around 0415.

WD2XGJ
Very stable and strong QRSS60/30 signal 0130-0415.


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Greetings from a soggy Oklahoma.

Im transmitting my first attempts at Jason slow v0.99 appx  137.7752 Khz 
centre using the GPS Ref's TS870 txing 5.137 Mhz and  homebrewed  VK 
transverter with Gps' ref LO at 5Mhz plus amp appx 800w output. Any reports 
appreciated but its  the big "e" in experimental so cant guarantee Ill be on 
all the time.

LF Iono - Its really noisy and inter USA LF signals over the past 3 days 
have been the worst Ive ever seen here.  Not just noise but the lactual 
evels during the nighttime have been lower than Ive seen before. Thank 
goodness for Bryces, Steves and others grabbers otherwise I though I was 
only heating up the Okie soil, Goldfish, occasional passing Armadillo and 
the a sole groundhog which has taken up residence under the tx loop. Weve 
proved emptying the 18ft plastic swimming pool, it being  located midway 
along the "ground" leg of the loop doesnt change the loops parameters that I 
can detect with the M0BMU phase/power meter.

Laurence KL1x/5 em26aq oklahoma.




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Hi Mal,

your balloons probably were a bit old, they become porous with the 
years. But that is no problem, you just have to cook them a few minutes 
in boiling water (no joke!) and they are fine again - even after many 
years. We never had problems during our activities (DL0ART/am) except 
once when we probably didn't stir enough...

HTH, gl, Oliver (DL9QJ, N3NSF, ex DL0ART/am team)

http://buene.muenster.de/darc/artob/homebale.htm

-- 
[Dr. Oliver Welp, DL9QJ, N3NSF
 welp@muenster.de]

hamilton mal schrieb:

> Hi All
> I got a couple of met balloons a while back and decided to inflate 
> them for LF airborne activities but it was a big 
> disappointment, although new they seem to be porous and the gas 
> escaped within a couple of hours. Perhaps met balloons are porous so 
> that when they achieve the object they deflate and drop to earth in a 
> short period of time.
> Where can I get a big ex govt barrage balloon? 
> 73 de  Mal/G3KEV
>   




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20./08/2005   2154z

I got back my phone line...
I suppose it's you Gary...
73:Jeff / F6CWN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:00 PM
Subject: LF: LF test/beacon again


> 
> Hi LF,
> 
> I will be test/beacon tonight on freq 137780.5 400 watts QRSS60 sending
> "WGT" followed by CW ID 6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP" starting soon.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi All,

Correction, power will be 500 wats DC input tonight.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
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Subject: LF: LF test/beacon again



Hi LF,

I will be test/beacon tonight on freq 137780.5 400 watts QRSS60 sending
"WGT" followed by CW ID 6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP" starting soon.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor





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Hi LF,

I will be test/beacon tonight on freq 137780.5 400 watts QRSS60 sending
"WGT" followed by CW ID 6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP" starting soon.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor




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Wolf DL4YHF wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> Bad WX and QRN prevented operation at the club station on LF, so there 
> was some time to improve Spectrum Lab a bit.
> I have just uploaded a new versions which may be interesting to a few on 
> the reflector. ..........

> Ko, you may like to update the copy on your website too ;-)
> 
> Hope to be back on LF on sunday.
> 73,

Hi Wolff
Thanks, You're a day faster than "ChangeDetection.com"

I just updated, i am fast as the xyl is gone for
the weekend wich makes me twice as fast :-)

See you sunday.
73 Ko, NL9222


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A friend of mine had a lot of success with (new) 1m dia latex
ballons which a readily available. These are much lighter than met
balloons.

He got about a week out of each filling.

However he was only running half-wave verticals on 80m.

- Stewart G3YSX

hamilton mal wrote:

> Hi All
> I got a couple of met balloons a while back and decided to inflate 
> them for LF airborne activities but it was a big 
> disappointment, although new they seem to be porous and the gas 
> escaped within a couple of hours. Perhaps met balloons are porous so 
> that when they achieve the object they deflate and drop to earth in a 
> short period of time.
> Where can I get a big ex govt barrage balloon? 
> 73 de  Mal/G3KEV
>   



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Greetings all,

Bad WX and QRN prevented operation at the club station on LF, so there 
was some time to improve Spectrum Lab a bit.
I have just uploaded a new versions which may be interesting to a few on 
the reflector. New:
- In "colour direction finder" mode (aka "directiongram"), it is now 
possible to supress noise from up to three directions
- The program is not as hungry for system resources as it was in V1.9 to 
V2.3, so no more crashes when running multiple instances
- and some other goodies which are not related to LF

V2.5 build 7 can be downloaded from 
http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html
(from where the download is much faster than from qsl.net)

Ko, you may like to update the copy on your website too ;-)

Hope to be back on LF on sunday.
73,




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<DIV><FONT size=2>20./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1828z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Mal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;The better texture for balloons is natural latex, 
weather balloons are the best, but the price is expensive ( ~90âŹ for a 4m 
diameter one).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The problem with balloons is that this thingy do what he like 
in case of wind; he prefer to fly horizontally, not vertically because of his 
great surface; and the ground is rarely soft,...&nbsp;&nbsp;That's why i prefer 
kites.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Balloons are always porus with light gaz; more porus with 
hydrogen than helium ( molecule size).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
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  <A title=g3kev.ham@virgin.net href="mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">hamilton 
  mal</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:02 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: met balloon</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got a couple of met balloons a while back and 
  decided to inflate them for LF airborne activities but it was a big 
  disappointment,&nbsp;although new they seem to be porous and the gas escaped 
  within a couple of hours. Perhaps met balloons are porous so that when they 
  achieve the object they deflate and&nbsp;drop to earth in a short period of 
  time.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where can I get a big ex govt barrage 
  balloon?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de&nbsp; Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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Saw G3XIZ with test on 137.684.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got a couple of met balloons a while back and 
decided to inflate them for LF airborne activities but it was a big 
disappointment,&nbsp;although new they seem to be porous and the gas escaped 
within a couple of hours. Perhaps met balloons are porous so that when they 
achieve the object they deflate and&nbsp;drop to earth in a short period of 
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where can I get a big ex govt barrage 
balloon?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de&nbsp; Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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wd2xdw 137.7750/137.7755 Khz 1Kw staircase carrier off for a while at 1450z 
- Cold front sagging south and Tstorm in close here in Northern Oklahoma.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/s1/index2.html

Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq




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<DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>20./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1343z</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>&nbsp;HI all,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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Hi LF,

Testing/Beaconing finished now for tonight, got to pick my XYL up from her
sisters. I will carry out some more testing/beaconing during the weekend
evenings until as late as practical.

Are there any objections with my choice of frequency (137780.5)? I have
chosen it due to the DF6NM grabber not showing the 135922 grab at the
moment.

The good news is that the PA heatsink has only shown slight warming during
the 1.5 hrs testing at QRSS60 400 watts DC input.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Hi Ingolf,

Thanks for screen shot, I can also see my signal very well on DF6MN grabber
but not as good on CT1DRP grabber.

PA heatsink only getting slightly warm.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

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Hi Gary

Fine RX her at JO65BP

Vy73 Ingolf OZ7QC
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>
> Hi All at LF,
>
> Just started my tests on 137780.5 QRSS60 400 watts sending "WGT" & CW ID
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>
> I will be keeping my eye (hand) on the PA heatsink temperature.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
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Hi Gary

Fine RX her at JO65BP

Vy73 Ingolf OZ7QC
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> 
> Hi All at LF,
> 
> Just started my tests on 137780.5 QRSS60 400 watts sending "WGT" & CW ID
> 6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP".
> 
> I will be keeping my eye (hand) on the PA heatsink temperature.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
> 
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
> 
> 
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Hi All at LF,

Just started my tests on 137780.5 QRSS60 400 watts sending "WGT" & CW ID
6wpm "G4WGT LOC IO83QP".

I will be keeping my eye (hand) on the PA heatsink temperature.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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VO1NA
Only weak traces 0000-0430.

WD2XES
Copied 7 callsign strings of the Jason Slow /Turbo mode 0130-0415.

WD2XGJ
Good peaks of the QRSS60/30 signal 0130-0415.

WD2XKO
Unreadable traces on 137.777,75 0330-0350.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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18./08/2005   2059z

Hello Gary and the list,

 Good signal in JN09TT, sorry for my stability ( SPM3)

Many tanks for the test, i hope to be QRV TX soon.

VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:16 PM
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> Hi Hartmut & LF,
>
> Thanks for including my beaconing on the Latest LF captures, it looked
good
> copy.
>
> I will be running QRSS30 again on the same frequency (137780.5) tonight
from
> about 2015z for about 1 hour.
>
> Tommorow (friday) I propose to test/beacon at QRSS60, I will confirm.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
> Sent: 18 August 2005 16:40
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: G3WCB and G4WGT beaconing
>
>
> Dave and Gary,
>
> I uploaded some captures of your beaconing last night, on my website
>
>  http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm
>
>
> 73
> Hartmut
>
> Locator:JO52ho
> www.h-wolff.de
>
>
>
>

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Hi Hartmut & LF,

Thanks for including my beaconing on the Latest LF captures, it looked good
copy.

I will be running QRSS30 again on the same frequency (137780.5) tonight from
about 2015z for about 1 hour.

Tommorow (friday) I propose to test/beacon at QRSS60, I will confirm.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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Subject: LF: G3WCB and G4WGT beaconing


Dave and Gary,

I uploaded some captures of your beaconing last night, on my website

 http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de




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Dave and Gary,

I uploaded some captures of your beaconing last night, on my website

 http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

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High QRN level last night. Only poor TA-reception.

VO1NA
Traces 0000-0430 from the QRSS30 signal. Only partial copy of the
callsign string 0000-0030 and 0300-0330.

WD2XES
Copied only a few letters of the Jason slow transmission 0100-0200.

WD2XGJ
Partial copy of the QRSS30 signal 0120-0210.


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Le mercredi 17 août 2005 à 22:25:46, nl9222@xs4all.nl a écrit:

> Hi Dave, Jeff & Group.
> No worries, S-9 crashes here also but finally have a Testgrabber working at:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm

Hello Ko,

 How did you get that large Argo display on your grabber ?  is it by some
 registry setup  or  is it a special version ?


 73 de Michel f5wk
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<DIV><BR><FONT size=3>"Hi Dave, Jeff &amp; Group.<BR>No worries, S-9 crashes 
here also but finally have a Testgrabber working at:<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm"><FONT 
size=3>http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT 
size=3>It needs some Tweaking as usual here but you're visible<BR>73 and Good 
Luck all,&nbsp; Ko NL9222"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2217z</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Hello Ko,</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Interesting your grabber system, no "stupid" noise, very 
clear...</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Wath is your antenna system and receiver?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>73: Jeff F6CWN / JN09TT</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>2130z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;OK Gary, have a good night and thank you 
again/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - 
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:26 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: Re: RE: TX someboby this 
  night?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2>Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2>I will be running again 
  tomorrow night, just finished tonight, going to join my 
  XYL.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005>
  <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
  href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
  target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 22:20<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    LF: Re: RE: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2118z</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Hello Gary,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Sorry, the operator is not at the top of the 
    art...</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Can you transmit again on 137 780.5</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - 
      G4WGT</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
      href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
      </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:32 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TX someboby this 
      night?</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi 
      Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>It may not be of use to 
      you but I am shortly transmitting QRSS30 on 137780.5 at 400 watts sending 
      G4WGT followed by CW ID at 6 wpm. This&nbsp;is to test my repared &amp; 
      updated PA with longer dot lengths &amp; I can hopefully monitor on the 
      grabbers on that frequency.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005>
      <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
      href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
      target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> 
      </P></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
        owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
        [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
        </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
        LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this 
night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
        &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid 
        noise at this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop 
        and SPM3 receiver)</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT 
size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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<DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2>Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2>I will be running again 
tomorrow night, just finished tonight, going to join my XYL.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=078522421-17082005>
<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 22:20<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: TX someboby this 
  night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2118z</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Hello Gary,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Sorry, the operator is not at the top of the 
  art...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Can you transmit again on 137 780.5</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - 
    G4WGT</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
    href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:32 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TX someboby this 
    night?</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi 
Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>It may not be of use to you 
    but I am shortly transmitting QRSS30 on 137780.5 at 400 watts sending G4WGT 
    followed by CW ID at 6 wpm. This&nbsp;is to test my repared &amp; updated PA 
    with longer dot lengths &amp; I can hopefully monitor on the grabbers on 
    that frequency.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005>
    <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
    href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
    target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> 
    </P></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
      [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
      </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
      LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
      &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise 
      at this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
      receiver)</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 2118z</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Hello Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Sorry, the operator is not at the top of the 
art...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Can you transmit again on 137 780.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk href="mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk">Gary - 
  G4WGT</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:32 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TX someboby this 
  night?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>It may not be of use to you 
  but I am shortly transmitting QRSS30 on 137780.5 at 400 watts sending G4WGT 
  followed by CW ID at 6 wpm. This&nbsp;is to test my repared &amp; updated PA 
  with longer dot lengths &amp; I can hopefully monitor on the grabbers on that 
  frequency.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005>
  <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
  href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
  target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
    LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
    &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise 
    at this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
    receiver)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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<DIV><SPAN class=744280521-17082005><FONT size=2>Hello Jeff and 
LFers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=744280521-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=744280521-17082005><FONT size=2>PA still OK, smelling a bit hot 
but still running 200W out, antenna current 1,8A. I think the propagation is not 
so good, or the crashes and bangs got worse!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=744280521-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=744280521-17082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
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  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 22:01<BR><B>To:</B> 
  LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: G3WCB this night<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/05&nbsp;&nbsp; 2059z</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Hello Dave and the list,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you again for the transmission and sorry for my 
  pictures, not representative of your transmission. This picture is the end... 
  PA hot or propagation fall&nbsp;off&nbsp;down?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>73: Jeff F6CWN</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/05&nbsp;&nbsp; 2059z</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Hello Dave and the list,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you again for the transmission and sorry for my 
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<DIV><SPAN class=154045020-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi, Jeff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=154045020-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=154045020-17082005><FONT size=2>Thanks for the nice screen 
shots. High level of QRN tonight. Good luck with the loop!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=154045020-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=154045020-17082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
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  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 21:43<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: RE: TX someboby this 
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005 2037z</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Dave, Ko and the list,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you for the transmission, fine!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>This night more noise, but OK for me. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>The second picture is with&nbsp; 20 dB 
  atténuation...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Some time your signal was just audio audible!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>VY 73 and thank you for your promptness.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Jeff F6CWN JN09TT in Normandie</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <A title=ganymede444@btopenworld.com 
    href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:07 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TX someboby this 
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    <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi, Jeff, 
    LFers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Beaconing from 2003z until 
    2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
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      [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
      </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
      LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
      &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise 
      at this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
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Hi Ko,

Watching your grabber & just see my sigs (at QRSS30) on your QRSS03 grab.

Thanks.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 17 August 2005 21:33
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Grabber...


Hello, Ko.
Nice to see another grabber...and it's not full of Loran lines! It doesn't
look like your running it under Windows, either...

73,
Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ko Versteeg
Sent: 17 August 2005 21:26
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Dave G3WCB wrote:
> Hi, Jeff, LFers
>
> Beaconing from 2003z until 2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN
>   Sent: 17 August 2005 20:47
>   To: LF/GB
>   Subject: LF: TX someboby this night?
>
>
>   17./08/2005   1942z
>
>
>
>    Hello all LFers,
>
>    Could somenone transmit in  QRSS3 this night, my receiver can't hear
only
> stupid noise at this time, it's a pity!
>    ( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 receiver)
>
>   VY 73: Jeff F6CWN

Hi Dave, Jeff & Group.
No worries, S-9 crashes here also but finally have a Testgrabber working at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm

It needs some Tweaking as usual here but you're visible
73 and Good Luck all,  Ko NL9222






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<DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005 2037z</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello Dave, Ko and the list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you for the transmission, fine!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This night more noise, but OK for me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The second picture is with&nbsp; 20 dB 
atténuation...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Some time your signal was just audio audible!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>VY 73 and thank you for your promptness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jeff F6CWN JN09TT in Normandie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=ganymede444@btopenworld.com 
  href="mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com">Dave G3WCB</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:07 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: TX someboby this 
  night?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi, Jeff, 
  LFers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Beaconing from 2003z until 
  2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
  IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
    LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
    &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise 
    at this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
    receiver)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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WD2XES will be running in JASON Slow mode with 200 watts on 137.779 kHz for
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<DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2>It may not be of use to you but 
I am shortly transmitting QRSS30 on 137780.5 at 400 watts sending G4WGT followed 
by CW ID at 6 wpm. This&nbsp;is to test my repared &amp; updated PA with longer 
dot lengths &amp; I can hopefully monitor on the grabbers on that 
frequency.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359381820-17082005>
<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR>Web : <A 
href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
  LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
  &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise at 
  this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
  receiver)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Hello, Ko.
Nice to see another grabber...and it's not full of Loran lines! It doesn't
look like your running it under Windows, either...

73,
Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ko Versteeg
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Dave G3WCB wrote:
> Hi, Jeff, LFers
>
> Beaconing from 2003z until 2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN
>   Sent: 17 August 2005 20:47
>   To: LF/GB
>   Subject: LF: TX someboby this night?
>
>
>   17./08/2005   1942z
>
>
>
>    Hello all LFers,
>
>    Could somenone transmit in  QRSS3 this night, my receiver can't hear
only
> stupid noise at this time, it's a pity!
>    ( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 receiver)
>
>   VY 73: Jeff F6CWN

Hi Dave, Jeff & Group.
No worries, S-9 crashes here also but finally have a Testgrabber working at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm

It needs some Tweaking as usual here but you're visible
73 and Good Luck all,  Ko NL9222





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Dave G3WCB wrote:
> Hi, Jeff, LFers
> 
> Beaconing from 2003z until 2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...
> 
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of F6CWN
>   Sent: 17 August 2005 20:47
>   To: LF/GB
>   Subject: LF: TX someboby this night?
> 
> 
>   17./08/2005   1942z
> 
> 
> 
>    Hello all LFers,
> 
>    Could somenone transmit in  QRSS3 this night, my receiver can't hear only
> stupid noise at this time, it's a pity!
>    ( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 receiver)
> 
>   VY 73: Jeff F6CWN

Hi Dave, Jeff & Group.
No worries, S-9 crashes here also but finally have a Testgrabber working at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/136grab.htm

It needs some Tweaking as usual here but you're visible
73 and Good Luck all,  Ko NL9222


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<DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Hi, Jeff, 
LFers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>Beaconing from 2003z until 
2030z 137.694kHz QRSS3 ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=254190520-17082005><FONT size=2>73, Dave G3WCB 
IO91RM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>F6CWN<BR><B>Sent:</B> 17 August 2005 20:47<BR><B>To:</B> 
  LF/GB<BR><B>Subject:</B> LF: TX someboby this night?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
  &nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise at 
  this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
  receiver)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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<DIV><FONT size=2>17./08/2005&nbsp;&nbsp; 1942z</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;Hello all LFers,<BR><BR>&nbsp;Could somenone transmit&nbsp;in 
&nbsp;QRSS3&nbsp;this night, my receiver&nbsp;can't hear only stupid noise at 
this time, it's a pity!<BR>&nbsp;<FONT size=2>( 2,2 meter loop and SPM3 
receiver)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>VY 73: Jeff F6CWN</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Strong signals from VO1NA, WD2XES and WD2XGJ with a deep fading period 
visible on all 3 signals 0200-0220 UTC.

VO1NA
Traces visible since 2300 and copied the QRSS30 signal 0000-0130 and 
0300-0330. Some weak 5wpm "smudge" was also visible.

WD2XES
Good copy of the DFCW120 signal 0030-0140 and 0230-0415.

WD2XGJ
Copied the QRSS60/30 signal 0035-0420. The signal was not affected to 
much from the fading 0200-0220.

WD2XKO
Only some brief unreadable traces on 137.777,75. The signal could be 
affected by the 5wpm "smudge" from 137.777.

Nothing else copied.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de


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From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:53:14 -0800
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Subject: LF: XDW back on - 137.7750 to 137.7755 Khz
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wd2xdw went back on last(16th) nite on appx 137.7750-137.7755 Khz  ZL1BPU 
DDS with 5 stepped staircase appx 80 secs carrier with 0.08hz increase per 
stair plus CW id/message. 950W output or so  which is  producing 39A loop 
current.

Laurence KL1X/5
em26aq oklahoma!
status
http://myweb.cableone.net/flow




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VO1NA
Better signal than the last nights copied the QRSS30 signal 0200-0230
and 0300-0330 UTC.

WD2XES
Only poor copy of one "XES" string 0135-0210 UTC.

WD2XGJ
Copied the QRSS30 signal 0120-0220 UTC.

WD2XKO
Unreadable traces on 137.77775.


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Hi all

Chris is right there is not enough activity to keep the 
interest of any casual listener. I have tried to enthuse 
others to get on to 136 but it is the activity thing that is 
high lighted as being the reason to not trying the band.

For local working to G3XIZ 8 or so miles I get 599 reports on 
about 10 watts fairly typical of 160 metres. So this is the 
way I am trying get people to have a go on the band. Start 
with lowish power for local and then hopfully get the bug. 

During a visit to another amateur in the town who was showing 
his new ICOM, I asked if it was any good on 136. We tried it 
and guess what, there was G3XIZ calling CQ. I am hoping Saun 
will have a go on 136 in due course.

Thats all from me hopfully there will be a bit more activity 
other than QRSS.

Vy73 to all. Pete M0FMT / G8FMT.


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15./08/2005   2100z

HELLO DAVE!

 Solid copy OOO in JN09TT !

The antenna is a loop 6 turns 7.8 mm wire 2.2m diameter.
The preamp ( just 10 dB gain 2 time U420, >70 dB CMRR)

Congratulation for your TX

CHAMPAGNE!

  VY 73 Dave

Jeff  / F6CWN in JN09TT ( NR DIEPPE)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Beaconing for F6CWN


> Michel,
> Beaconing tonight on 137.694 kHz QRSSS3 from 2035z to 2100z 200W RF o/p
ERP
> 30mW (on a good day!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michel F5WK
> Sent: 15 August 2005 21:20
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Cc: F6CWN
> Subject: LF: Beaconing for F6CWN
>
>
>  Hello all,
>
>  Could somenone do QRSS3 beaconing tonight for Jeff F6CWN who is listening
>  on 137700 in loc. JN09TT and is avid to know if his 2 meter diameter loop
>  performs as expected.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>   73 de Michel f5wk
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Michel,
Beaconing tonight on 137.694 kHz QRSSS3 from 2035z to 2100z 200W RF o/p ERP
30mW (on a good day!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Michel F5WK
Sent: 15 August 2005 21:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
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Subject: LF: Beaconing for F6CWN


 Hello all,

 Could somenone do QRSS3 beaconing tonight for Jeff F6CWN who is listening
 on 137700 in loc. JN09TT and is avid to know if his 2 meter diameter loop
 performs as expected.

 Thanks.

  73 de Michel f5wk
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 Hello all,

 Could somenone do QRSS3 beaconing tonight for Jeff F6CWN who is listening
 on 137700 in loc. JN09TT and is avid to know if his 2 meter diameter loop
 performs as expected.

 Thanks.

  73 de Michel f5wk
-- 



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WE0H Mike wrote:
> Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
> the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
> use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
> the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
> true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Argo works fine with the windows emulator Wine. There is also a
program called "glfer" by IN3OTD which works fine, but it's not quite
as comfortable as Argo:
http://www.qsl.net/in3otd/glfer.html 

73,
-- 
Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/


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VO1NA
Traces visible since 2315UTC. O copy 0200-0230UTC.

WD2XGJ
Copied the QRSS60/30 signal 0115-0315UTC.

WD2XKO
Visible 0145-0330UTC. O copy 0245-0330UTC


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de


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Due to local thunderstorms WD2XGJ is signing off the air at 03:15 UTC on 15 
August.

--
--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi


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Dmitri,

Thanks for screen shot.

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Hi Gary

Only few traces abt 22:30

Dmitri



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Hi Gary

Only few traces abt 22:30

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Hi Ingolf,

Thanks for screen shot, 100%.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of OZ7QC
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Hi Gary,

Her you are in QSS20

Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Hi Ingolf,
>
> Thanks for screen shot, it does seem to be my transmission.
> Please send a shot of the QRSS30 in due course.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of OZ7QC
> Sent: 14 August 2005 21:03
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>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> I think this is you rx at JO65BP town Roskilde 30 km west of Copenhagen in
> QSS 10 mode
> I have change to QSS 30.
>
> Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:35 PM
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>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> PA running cool, going up to QRSS30, 137780.5KHz (400 watts).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
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Hi Harmut,

Thanks for screen shot, PA running cool at QRSS30, best ever. May try QRSS60
soon. Also improvements to antenna on the way.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff
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Gary,

attached a screenshot taken at 1925 UTC of your QRSS10 signal.

73

Hartmut

> Hi All,

> At about 1905z I am going to QSY to 137780.5 KHz running 400 watts, QRSS10
> to watch for my sigs on Brians grabber. If this freq could be a problem
> please e-mail to LF. I will be finished before 1100z.

> Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Gary,

attached a screenshot taken at 1925 UTC of your QRSS10 signal.

73

Hartmut

> Hi All,

> At about 1905z I am going to QSY to 137780.5 KHz running 400 watts, QRSS10
> to watch for my sigs on Brians grabber. If this freq could be a problem
> please e-mail to LF. I will be finished before 1100z.

> Regards,

> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
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Hi Gary,

Her you are in QSS20

Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Re: LF Testing


> Hi Ingolf,
>
> Thanks for screen shot, it does seem to be my transmission.
> Please send a shot of the QRSS30 in due course.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of OZ7QC
> Sent: 14 August 2005 21:03
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: LF Testing
>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> I think this is you rx at JO65BP town Roskilde 30 km west of Copenhagen in
> QSS 10 mode
> I have change to QSS 30.
>
> Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:35 PM
> Subject: LF: LF Testing
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> PA running cool, going up to QRSS30, 137780.5KHz (400 watts).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>>
>> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>>
>>
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Dear Brian and Gary,<BR>
<BR>
yes Gary's signal is just about visible here, but lots of static coming in from Switzerland and thereabouts.<BR>
<BR>
The grabber seems to be online ok from here. If the AOL site is unavailable, you can also try<BR>
<A HREF="http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm">http://people.freenet.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm</A> <BR>
<BR>
73 and good luck<BR>
Markus<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Markus's grabber was off for the 137778 section of the band on Friday night and I cannot contact the URL tonight.&nbsp; The ISPs must be very busy.<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
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Hi Ingolf,

Thanks for screen shot, it does seem to be my transmission.
Please send a shot of the QRSS30 in due course.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



-----Original Message-----
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Hi Gary,

I think this is you rx at JO65BP town Roskilde 30 km west of Copenhagen in 
QSS 10 mode
I have change to QSS 30.

Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:35 PM
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> Hi All,
>
> PA running cool, going up to QRSS30, 137780.5KHz (400 watts).
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
> 

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Hi Brian,

Mail delivery fail again when I sent my reply, here is the text.

Brian,

I think I see a slight trace on Marcus's grabber running QRSS10 on
137780.5KHz, I am now running QRSS30. I have never used QRSS30 before
because of the high temerature of the PA, it is now running cool at QRSS30.
I will keep going til about 2200z. Thanks for your comments.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Rogerson [mailto:brian@esoterica.pt]
Sent: 14 August 2005 21:01
To: Gary - G4WGT
Subject: Fwd: LF: LF Testing



>"Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Gary there is nothing on my Argogram at the moment but don't give up too
early.

I have only seen my own signals on Markus's grabber quite late on say 22:00
to 23:00
while trying to transmit TA recently.  Markus's grabber was off for the
137778 section
of the band on Friday night and I cannot contact the URL tonight.  The ISPs
must be
very busy.

73, Brian CT1DRP



Regards,

Gary

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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<DIV>I heard PA0A calling&nbsp; &nbsp;"test v v v" &nbsp;on Saturday&nbsp;at 1156Z</DIV>
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<DIV>I called him but no reply.</DIV>
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  German Longwave Activity Day of the DARC District Württemberg
 
  Dear OMs and LWLs,
 
like in the last year, the DARC association Hohenstaufen P41 (DOK P41)  is arranging the Longwave Activity Day of the DARC District Württemberg. 
 
Start:  Saturday, 1st  October 2005, 12.00 UTC
End:    Sunday,   2nd October 2005, 12.00 UTC
 
  
 
  Starting on Saturday afternoon at 12.00 UTC until Sunday 12.00 UTC it will be transmitted on the longwave frequency 136 kHz in CW, in the evening in the mode QRSS-CW. 
 
 Our preferred frequencies: 
 
   
 CW 136,50 kHz, QRSS-CW 137,70 kHz, qrss3 (one cw-dot lasts three seconds) QSK QSU (please reply exact on the used frequency). 
 
  
 
 Transmitt operation is performed with the club call DK 0 UH and the operators call. Please QSL via bureau, please qsl to operator too.

 Our Locator: JN48TM in D-72589 Westerheim, south of the City Goeppingen. Confirming operation (ZAP) is performed on HF 7021 kHz, the request is made on Longwave. 
 
  IF-Bandwidth used is 100 Hz, Audio BW for QRSS will be about 100 Hz too. 
 
  
 
 Hans-Albrecht Haffa
 
 DK 8 ND Chairman P41
 
 Klaus Ruoff
 
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Hi Gary,

I think this is you rx at JO65BP town Roskilde 30 km west of Copenhagen in 
QSS 10 mode
I have change to QSS 30.

Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: LF: LF Testing


> Hi All,
>
> PA running cool, going up to QRSS30, 137780.5KHz (400 watts).
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
> Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
> 

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Hi All,

PA running cool, going up to QRSS30, 137780.5KHz (400 watts).

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Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Hi All,

At about 1905z I am going to QSY to 137780.5 KHz running 400 watts, QRSS10
to watch for my sigs on Brians grabber. If this freq could be a problem
please e-mail to LF. I will be finished before 1100z.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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Hi all at LF.

Testing at 400 watts tonight, 135,923.5 KHz, QRSS10.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


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Dex I have just looked at the circuit digrams for my SPM-12 and find that
the orange coloured display is MAN 3640A  7seg LEDs driven by MC 14511...It
maybe that yours are not the same, but if they look at all similar send me
another message and I will scan the display card circuit as a guide for you.

Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" <dmcintyre@att.net>
To: "RSGB LF" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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> I recently acquired a Wandel Goltermann AT-611 SLM.  It appears to work
> fine but the center two segments of the six digit frequency display
> don't illuminate.  I guess this is a gas type display that requires a
> hundred volts or so to operate.  Is there anyone on this group familiar
> with this SML and this trouble?  Which is the most likely problem the
> display or the driver circuit?
>
> Thanks,
> Dex
>



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Since Jeff F6BWO has no internet connection he asked me in a qso this
morning to qsp the following sad message:
- On the 3rd of August Werner ON6ND passed away in the age of 68 years -

I hope his family will put strenght from the fact that he will not be
forgotten.

Wil - pa0bwl



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Weak signs from VO1NA visible here since 2315UTC and traces of WD2XGJ
since 2345UTC.

73
Hartmut



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I recently acquired a Wandel Goltermann AT-611 SLM.  It appears to work 
fine but the center two segments of the six digit frequency display 
don't illuminate.  I guess this is a gas type display that requires a 
hundred volts or so to operate.  Is there anyone on this group familiar 
with this SML and this trouble?  Which is the most likely problem the 
display or the driver circuit?

Thanks,
Dex


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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Mike,<br>
<br>
&nbsp; I seem to recall to have received a report a couple of years ago
saying that somebody (don't&nbsp; remember who)<br>
did succeed in running Argo under some Windows emulator (maybe it was
Wine).<br>
<br>
At the risk of being flamed (please don't) my opinion about Linux is
that it is an excellent OS for running<br>
server applications, but as far as the desktop PC is concerned, it
still lacks some user friendliness and ease of<br>
use when compared to Windows. I have Fedora Core 4 installed on my
multi boot PC, and so can compare<br>
directly Win XP and Linux on the same hardware. Linux is slower,
expecially in the GUI part, and, speaking <br>
from a developer point of view, it still lacks some development tools
that Windows has.<br>
<br>
I am convinced that this situation will change in a few years, if the
current momentum in favor of Linux will<br>
continue. Then probably I will make myself the switchover, producing
Linux versions of Argo/Spectran/SDRadio<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
73&nbsp; Alberto&nbsp; I2PHD<br>
-----------------------------------------<br>
</font></font><br>
WE0H Mike wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid42FDB207.1090205@genesiswireless.us" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Thanks,

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI


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Hi Mike,

Have a look at this one "Baudline" at http://www.baudline.com/index.html

I havn't tried it 'cause I can't get my Linux going 100%

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of WE0H Mike
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Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Thanks,

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI



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Is any of Alberto's software written for Linux? I did a Lebranet install 
the other night and am finding it way better than Winblows so I want to 
use Linux for my LW station if possible. I haven't tried any software in 
the Windows emulator yet so that may work fine but I would rather have 
true Linux ARGO or whatever if possible.

Thanks,

Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI


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VO1NA
Mostly unreadable traces 0000-0330.

WD2XES
Copied the "CQ EU" call on 136.318kHz.

WD2XGJ
Good copy of the QRSS60/30 signal 0145-0350UTC.

WD2XKO
Copied only a few signs, no full "XKO" 0100-0400 UTC


Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Hi all at LF,

Started tests again tonight from 2030z on approx 135923.5 with QRSS10,
300watts.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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RA3YO   QRSS120   137778.5 at 17z 12 aug

Dmitri



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John w1tag put me on to this amp and details of his set up are at
http://www.w1tag.com/pix/Hafler_Amp.jpg

John also has some other excellent info on his web site.

Its a class A or AB device and produce a lot of heat so you do need heatsink 
and good air flow thru the transformer cut outs - Ive come to the same 
conclusion as John that constant key down shd be limited to 200W or so but 
it will do up to 350=400W before clipping. Output is very clean at 137Khz

I run this amp on linear requiring modes and ebay bids are averaging around 
300 USD or so. Hafler have stopped manufacturing products but it is still 
supported. Its a 110VAC powered device.

Laurence


>From: 0482183881-0001@t-online.de
>Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Subject: RE: LF: NAD amplifier
>Date: 12 Aug 2005 08:47 GMT
>
>"Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> schrieb:
> > No but can recommend the Hafler P3000 without mods for 137Khz....
> >
> > 73 Laurence KL1x/5
>
>Hi Laurence,
>and what PWR on 137kHz do you get out of the Hafler - in the bridge connect 
>mode - ?
>Regards
>Uwe/dj8wx
>
>




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Hi Hartmut Wollf


Tnx fr the report

My ant.15m and a vert. and under  the roof 30 m

Tx is starting with 20 mhz dds board from e.l.v.

And a portable tx from g3yxm after that a tb3/750

1.5a. antenne stroom.

All the best 73s wim pa3ego wdr@xs4all.nl

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Namens Hartmut Wolff
Verzonden: donderdag 11 augustus 2005 19:55
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: PA3EGO

Nice QRSS3 signal on 137.7kHz from PA3EGO. See attachment.

73
Hartmut

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12./08/2005   0855z

Thanks Laurence for the infos, fine indeed ( BW 300 KHz!).

 A have find a NAD 2200 amplifier from a old NMR ( nuclear magnetic
resonnance) equipment, probably around 150 KHz.
My question is why not on 136 KHz?
The problem now is to find the shematic diagram and try to pick up some
power...

73: Jeff / F6CWN ( TM5AST also)




----- Original Message ----- 
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> No but can recommend the Hafler P3000 without mods for 137Khz....
>
> 73 Laurence KL1x/5
>
> >From: "F6CWN" <f6cwn@tiscali.fr>
> >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >To: "LF/GB" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >Subject: LF: NAD amplifier
> >Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:50:32 -0000
> >
> >11./08/2005   2046z
> >
> >  Hello LFers,
> >
> >At first, welcome to the new station PA0VHF, fine (........) no, SUPER!
> >
> >
> >
> >  As somebody any experience with the NAD 2200 amplifier (normaly good AF
> >amplifier without output capacitor), like TX on 136 KHz?
> >
> >VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN
> >




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"Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> schrieb:
> No but can recommend the Hafler P3000 without mods for 137Khz....
> 
> 73 Laurence KL1x/5

Hi Laurence,
and what PWR on 137kHz do you get out of the Hafler - in the bridge connect mode - ?
Regards
Uwe/dj8wx



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Nothing seen of the Oklahoma wolf so I will look for RA3YO instead.

Mike ZL4OL


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No but can recommend the Hafler P3000 without mods for 137Khz....

73 Laurence KL1x/5

>From: "F6CWN" <f6cwn@tiscali.fr>
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>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:50:32 -0000
>
>11./08/2005   2046z
>
>  Hello LFers,
>
>At first, welcome to the new station PA0VHF, fine (........) no, SUPER!
>
>
>
>  As somebody any experience with the NAD 2200 amplifier (normaly good AF 
>amplifier without output capacitor), like TX on 136 KHz?
>
>VY 73: Jeff / F6CWN
>
>
>




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RA3YO is beaconing on 137779.2 in QRSS120.

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http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


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Hi Brian,

Sorry bounced again with that address. Here is the text of that e-mail.

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the photo & the following e-mails on the subject, some very
interesting reading & some over my head (HI. HI.), I notice from your photo
that the primary & secondary are not overwound but are separate windings,
the GW4ALG design I tried using a monitor line output transformer core was
secondary wound over primary, any comments on that? I will proceed to obtain
a couple of cores from David (G0MRF).

I have now completed the repair to the G0MRF transmitter & I have connected
the antenna matching back to the grounded, tapped input coil & the PA
mosfets don't get hot as they did before my PA failure when I was using the
monitor transformer core, I will try it again on the transformer & note the
difference(if any) to see if the matching arrangement has any bearing on
this.

Thanks again Brian.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor






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Gary, try sending to

nx4ywv@esoterica.pt

don't guarantee but might work.  My ISP is a first class
pratt.  They do nothing about obvious spam and virus laden
attachments but block normal email.

73, Brian CT1DRP




At 18:50 11/08/2005, you wrote:
>Brian,
>
>Trying to reply to your e-mail, it has bounced twice tonight.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp
>
>Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor




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Brian,

Trying to reply to your e-mail, it has bounced twice tonight.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


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Nice QRSS3 signal on 137.7kHz from PA3EGO. See attachment.

73
Hartmut

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To All from PA0SE

Just worked a new stattion: Jan, PA0VHF at Rozenburg, West of Rotterdam. 
(Not to be confused with  Dick, PA4VHF, who made a brief appearance some 
time ago.) PA0VHF had only small output and I gave him RST 579 and received 
RST 599.

PA0WFO, PA3GXB and PA0VHF all belong to VERON-ranch Voorne-Putten.  A 
member of that branch has bought a bunch of  ROPEX "The First" transmitters 
that were left over after ROPEX  stopped production.  So that is the reason 
that  LF activity has come up in that region West of Rotterdam.

The amateurs concerned are all experimenting with large ferrite pot cores 
for aerial loading and matching with some success.

73, Dick, PA0SE




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Poorer TA conditions last night. The only signal copied was VO1NA
0300-0330UTC.

Unreadable traces on the XGJ frequency 0100-0200UTC.
  

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Hallo Ko 

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73s Wim pa3ego

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Willem
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Hi Alan,

Going by the supplied info the unit is a rebadged ENI (Electronic Navigation
Industries, if I remember right)power amp. ENI made a wide range of pretty
'bombproof' linear power amps up into the low VHF range, at least. We still
use one of their 600W HF PAs here for testing tuners/antennas. It will drive
most things but is NOT proof against technicians connecting the input to
output (~55dB gain !). ENI dropped out of the wideband PA market a few years
ago so quite a bit of their stuff will probably appear now it is
'unsupported'. Should be a good buy - they are very well built and
conservatively rated (and it's a very probably a linear, not class-D or
whatever).

regards,

Paul     g8gja

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 09 August 2005 22:22
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Subject: LF: Re: Interesting E-Bay Item


Hi Chris I was about to say that these things are usually a push-pull self
excited oscillator...but this looks like a much more modern job. I didnt
realise plasma etching was done at so low a frequency..... the ashers we had
were on the 13MHz ICS band. 3kW 120v transformers are no problem they are
used on building sites for power tools. I think the firm's name on the front
looks like "Plasmatronics" (maybe ix instead of ics) and I think they have a
web site. These should be mildly bomb-proof as they are made to operate into
weird loads, by people who dont understand "matching" and it is tweak for
maximum smoke ....literally. That didnt stop some of our crowd trashing a
few valves.( yup ours were "real radio" with big bottles)
Well it would make a difference from Decca Nav PAs !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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To: "LF Group (E-mail)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 09 August 2005 13:06
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There's an interesting item for sale on E-Bay which may be useful
for LF  . .

ENI PL3G LOW FREQUENCY RF GENERATOR

It says it's range is from 100 - 450 KHz and has an output of  0 -
3000 watts !!

Unfortunately it needs a 120 v ac input.

E Bay No. 7536278840

Auction ends in 2 days.           Bid so far  Ł1

Ivybridge  (Devon presumably)

73 Chris G3XIZ



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Hi Ed,

hope you are reading this reflector.

My last email adr to <ed@dx.ru> could not be delivered.

Did you change the adr?
 

Regards
Uwe/dj8wx





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Early signals last night. First signs from VO1NA noted here just after
2300UTC. But the only full callsign string copied 0200-0230UTC. Traces
until 0330UTC.

On 136.318 copied the BIG WOLF from WD2XES. Decoding was made from a
soundfile started 0115UTC.

Saw the QRSS30 and QRSS60 signal from WD2XGJ 0000-0400UTC. Fully
readable was only the QRSS60 signal.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Hi Chris I was about to say that these things are usually a push-pull self
excited oscillator...but this looks like a much more modern job. I didnt
realise plasma etching was done at so low a frequency..... the ashers we had
were on the 13MHz ICS band. 3kW 120v transformers are no problem they are
used on building sites for power tools. I think the firm's name on the front
looks like "Plasmatronics" (maybe ix instead of ics) and I think they have a
web site. These should be mildly bomb-proof as they are made to operate into
weird loads, by people who dont understand "matching" and it is tweak for
maximum smoke ....literally. That didnt stop some of our crowd trashing a
few valves.( yup ours were "real radio" with big bottles)
Well it would make a difference from Decca Nav PAs !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "OSBORN, Chris" <Chris.OSBORN@astrium.eads.net>
To: "LF Group (E-mail)" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 09 August 2005 13:06
Subject: LF: Interesting E-Bay Item





There's an interesting item for sale on E-Bay which may be useful
for LF  . .

ENI PL3G LOW FREQUENCY RF GENERATOR

It says it's range is from 100 - 450 KHz and has an output of  0 -
3000 watts !!

Unfortunately it needs a 120 v ac input.

E Bay No. 7536278840

Auction ends in 2 days.           Bid so far  Ł1

Ivybridge  (Devon presumably)

73 Chris G3XIZ



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Hi All at LF,

G0MRF 136 MHz Tx back on ok after extensive repair. Made improvements to PA
cooling. Fitted soft start to power supply but it produces too high volts
without a variac on the mains input so looking into fitting a regulation
circuit to keep it down to say 35 or 37 volts which also remove any problems
caused by the variac fluctuating or spiking (may have been cause of PA
failures). Further bulletins will follow.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



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	There's an interesting item for sale on E-Bay which may be useful
for LF  . .


	ENI PL3G LOW FREQUENCY RF GENERATOR

	It says it's range is from 100 - 450 KHz and has an output of  0 -
3000 watts !!

	Unfortunately it needs a 120 v ac input.

	E Bay No. 7536278840

	Auction ends in 2 days.           Bid so far  Ł1

	Ivybridge  (Devon presumably)

	73 Chris G3XIZ




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Again good conditions:

VO1NA
O copy 0200-0230UTC and traces 0100-0130 and 0300-0330UTC.

WD2XES
On 136.318 in WOLF. Decoding was made from a soundfile started at
0250UTC. Synced after 576 seconds.

WD2XGJ
Strong QRSS60 and QRSS30 signal 0230-0400UTC.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Hi Lawrence I have tuned up as near as I can to 137.422, I will run
overnight.
Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Subject: LF: WOLF XDW WD2XDW


> XDW back on 180W WOLF and CW ID. Carrier 137.422 Khz 2240z 8th August
>
> Laurence KL1X/5
> em26aq oklahoma!!
> status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow
>
>
>



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XDW back on 180W WOLF and CW ID. Carrier 137.422 Khz 2240z 8th August

Laurence KL1X/5
em26aq oklahoma!!
status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow




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Hi Chris,

Sorry for not being able to copy your signal (when operating from DK4U 
which was once DF0WD), but many thanks for the attempt.
Looking for better conds with less QRM/QRN (despite this, there is an 
awful amount of local QRM left so I may have to find a remote RX site).

Later worked PA3GXB (CW) and F6BWO and G3WCB (QRSS & DFCW), not bad for 
a weekend with such amounts of QRN.

Greetings,
 Wolf   DL4YHF


CHRISTOPHER OSBORN schrieb:

> Sat
> Heard        PA0SE (579) and PA3GXB (229) -   0730Z
>                  Briefly worked  PA0SE but he had bad QRM
>  
> Sun
> Called        DK4U  He answered that he had bad QRM -  0804Z
> Heard         DF0WD (O) and G3WCB (O)   on DFCW - 1015Z
>  
> Unfortunately I had no discernable replies to my CQ's . never mind . .
> I'm  (still) building the QRO rig and might then have more luck - HI!
>  
> 73  Chris G3XIZ
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08./08/2005   0852z

Hello all LFer,

 Some years ago for a cardïod vertical antenna system on 7MHz i have used
old windsurfer masts with success. You can easy find broken masts,
not expensive; 10 meters high mast are easy to errect.

73: Jeff / F6CWN



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 136 khz acty Sunday


> >   I bought one of those DK9SQ telescoping masts a couple of years ago.
> >   Yes, its very light but also very weak The top section is maybe 1/4"
> >   diameter. I was able to (just barely) get it to hold up a 75m dipole
> >   made up of #20 insulated wire fed with 300 ohm tv twin lead, I used
> >   fishing line instead of rope at the dipole ends. I used the mast as
> >   a center support, and it still bent a bit under the weight of the
> >   very light dipole. Also, there is no locking mechanism on the
> >   telescoping sections, to prevent it from collapsing on itself I had
> >   to put a piece of tape accross each of the lower sections.
> > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>
> I had exactly the same experience with mine, though it was useful
> when operating occasional LF portable. When I used it at home, my
> neighbours didn't like it because it was so unstable in the slightest
> wind.
>
> I still keep it handy, though, as it makes a very lightweight 25ft
> extension to my arm when I need to disentangle branches from the
> antenna after a storm.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ==========
>
>
>




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>   I bought one of those DK9SQ telescoping masts a couple of years ago.
>   Yes, its very light but also very weak The top section is maybe 1/4"
>   diameter. I was able to (just barely) get it to hold up a 75m dipole
>   made up of #20 insulated wire fed with 300 ohm tv twin lead, I used
>   fishing line instead of rope at the dipole ends. I used the mast as
>   a center support, and it still bent a bit under the weight of the
>   very light dipole. Also, there is no locking mechanism on the
>   telescoping sections, to prevent it from collapsing on itself I had
>   to put a piece of tape accross each of the lower sections.
> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ

I had exactly the same experience with mine, though it was useful 
when operating occasional LF portable. When I used it at home, my 
neighbours didn't like it because it was so unstable in the slightest 
wind.

I still keep it handy, though, as it makes a very lightweight 25ft 
extension to my arm when I need to disentangle branches from the 
antenna after a storm.

Mike, G3XDV
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Good TA conditions last night:

VO1NA
Partial copy 0000-0030UTC and traces of the QRSS30 signal
0100-0330UTC.

WD2XES
Strong 100W WOLF signal on 136.318kHz. Decoding from a soundfile
started 0225UTC syncs after 384 seconds.

WD2XGJ
Strong QRSS60 and QRSS30 signal 0200-0340UTC

WD2XKO
Copied a weak "OXK" 0215-0240UTC

Nothing else copied.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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I thought of that once before. I'll check 'em out the next trip to town.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
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Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Mike,
       Save your money. Buy a telescoping paint pole from Home Depot and lash the 20' fishing rod to it. That way you will have a 33' pole for much less money, and it will be stronger too.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi




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Hey Warren,<br>
  <br>
Thanks for the heads up. So it appears that it is just like this Black
Widow 20' telescoping fishing pole I have here. It is also tiny at the
end with one eye at the end. I had bought it years ago to build a Saint
Louis Vertical and never got around to it. Guess I won't bother
spending a hundred bucks on a weak pole.<br>
  <br>
Thanks a bunch,<br>
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Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
WD2XGI<br>
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    <pre wrap="">Mike,
  I bought one of those DK9SQ telescoping masts a couple of years ago. Yes, its very light but also very weak The top section is maybe 1/4" diameter. I was able to (just barely) get it to hold up a 75m dipole made up of #20 insulated wire fed with 300 ohm tv twin lead, I used fishing line instead of rope at the dipole ends. I used the mast as a center support, and it still bent a bit under the weight of the very light dipole. Also, there is no locking mechanism on the telescoping sections, to prevent it from collapsing on itself I had to put a piece of tape accross each of the lower sections.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi



Thanks Dex. Interesting other stuff on that page also<span
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Do you know of a supplier of those fibre glass telescopic poles in the
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Dex<br>
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Mike,
       Save your money. Buy a telescoping paint pole from Home Depot and lash the 20' fishing rod to it. That way you will have a 33' pole for much less money, and it will be stronger too.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi





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XDW on 2130z  7th Aug 137.422 KHz  WOLF 150W or so until advised.

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<DIV>Sat</DIV>
<DIV>Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PA0SE (579)&nbsp;and PA3GXB (229) - &nbsp; 0730Z</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Briefly worked&nbsp; PA0SE but he had bad QRM </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sun</DIV>
<DIV>Called&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DK4U&nbsp;&nbsp;He answered that he had bad QRM - &nbsp;0804Z</DIV>
<DIV>Heard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DF0WD&nbsp;(O) and&nbsp;G3WCB (O)&nbsp;&nbsp; on DFCW - 1015Z</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately I had no discernable replies to my CQ's . never mind . . </DIV>
<DIV>I'm&nbsp;&nbsp;(still) building the QRO rig and might then have more luck - HI!</DIV>
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<DIV>73&nbsp; Chris G3XIZ</DIV>
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Hey Warren,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the heads up. So it appears that it is just like this Black
Widow 20' telescoping fishing pole I have here. It is also tiny at the
end with one eye at the end. I had bought it years ago to build a Saint
Louis Vertical and never got around to it. Guess I won't bother
spending a hundred bucks on a weak pole.<br>
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Thanks a bunch,<br>
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Mike<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Mike,
  I bought one of those DK9SQ telescoping masts a couple of years ago. Yes, its very light but also very weak The top section is maybe 1/4" diameter. I was able to (just barely) get it to hold up a 75m dipole made up of #20 insulated wire fed with 300 ohm tv twin lead, I used fishing line instead of rope at the dipole ends. I used the mast as a center support, and it still bent a bit under the weight of the very light dipole. Also, there is no locking mechanism on the telescoping sections, to prevent it from collapsing on itself I had to put a piece of tape accross each of the lower sections.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi



Thanks Dex. Interesting other stuff on that page also<span
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Mike<br>
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Do you know of a supplier of those fibre glass telescopic poles in the
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Mike,
  I bought one of those DK9SQ telescoping masts a couple of years ago. Yes, its very light but also very weak The top section is maybe 1/4" diameter. I was able to (just barely) get it to hold up a 75m dipole made up of #20 insulated wire fed with 300 ohm tv twin lead, I used fishing line instead of rope at the dipole ends. I used the mast as a center support, and it still bent a bit under the weight of the very light dipole. Also, there is no locking mechanism on the telescoping sections, to prevent it from collapsing on itself I had to put a piece of tape accross each of the lower sections.


--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi





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Thanks Dex. Interesting other stuff on that page also<span
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Hi Mal,<br>
<br>
Do you know of a supplier of those fibre glass telescopic poles in the
North America? I sure would like to buy one. They sound very useful.<br>
<br>
Thanks much,<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
WE0H<br>
WD2XGI<br>
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hamilton mal wrote:<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi All</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">This Sunday morn G3WCB was a strong
audible signal on 137.7 khz although he was using QRS FSK&nbsp;, also seen
DK3U and F6 acty.</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">In spite of the Rugby qrm all
signals were solid on my Vertical ant as well as the Loop (no rugby qrm
on the loop, which is optimum E/W).</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">At the local Pickering steam rally
this weekend 10 metre&nbsp;vertical fibre glass telescopic poles were
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">(25 euro) these would be useful for
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<font size=3><b>Derek, G3GRO wrote:<br><br>
</b>At 23:04 6-8-05, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">To Dick,PA0SE et al<br><br>
I coupled up my LF antenna and loading coil for the first time for
several months to take a look at the QRM level from the new Loran station
at Rugby in response to Dave G3YXM,s recent request on the reflector for
info of Loran QRM levels in the UK,<br>
&nbsp;Despite the Loran QRM giving 35uV of clattering noise in a 2KHz BW
(S7+) in my RX input ,&nbsp; At 07-35 UTC&nbsp; I copied you in QSO at
549 OK in a 250Hz BW but unfortunately I could only just read a letter or
two here and there from Hans PA3GXB due to the Loran noise at my QTH in
Crawley 45km south of London, Loc. IO91VC.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sorry Hans that I
could not fully copy you but welcome to the 136KHz band.!<br>
&nbsp;I did not hear Chris G3XIZ today at all but may be by then I had
gone for breakfast. I did listen later on and off but no more activity
heard.<br><br>
73,&nbsp;&nbsp; Derek G3GRO<br>
</blockquote><b>Thanks Derek for your report.<br><br>
I passed your message on to Hans because I don't know whether he already
subscribes to the reflector .<br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE</font></b></body>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This Sunday morn G3WCB was a strong audible signal 
on 137.7 khz although he was using QRS FSK&nbsp;, also seen DK3U and F6 
acty.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In spite of the Rugby qrm all signals were solid on 
my Vertical ant as well as the Loop (no rugby qrm on the loop, which is optimum 
E/W).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At the local Pickering steam rally this weekend 10 
metre&nbsp;vertical fibre glass telescopic poles were available for Ł18 
each</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(25 euro) these would be useful for LF, 
&nbsp;mounted on top of a common&nbsp;12m metal pole.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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To Dick,PA0SE et al

I coupled up my LF antenna and loading coil for the first time for several 
months to take a look at the QRM level from the new Loran station at Rugby 
in response to Dave G3YXM,s recent request on the reflector for info of 
Loran QRM levels in the UK,
  Despite the Loran QRM giving 35uV of clattering noise in a 2KHz BW (S7+) 
in my RX input ,  At 07-35 UTC  I copied you in QSO at 549 OK in a 250Hz BW 
but unfortunately I could only just read a letter or two here and there from 
Hans PA3GXB due to the Loran noise at my QTH in Crawley 45km south of 
London, Loc. IO91VC.   Sorry Hans that I could not fully copy you but 
welcome to the 136KHz band.!
  I did not hear Chris G3XIZ today at all but may be by then I had gone for 
breakfast. I did listen later on and off but no more activity heard.

73,   Derek G3GRO




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Rollema" <dickrollema@casema.nl>
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> To All from PA0SE
>
> This Saturday morning I worked a new station: Hans, PA3GXB. Location is 
> Rozenburg, West of Rotterdam. Loc JO21CV.
> He was RST 5 8/9 9 with me. Hans is using a Ropex "The First"   and with 
> his signal he should be able to work stations outside The Netherlands.
> After the QSO I was called by Chris, G3XIZ. I gave him RST 569 but then 
> lost him due to sudden local QRM.
>
> 73, Dick, PA0SE
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OSBORN, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> 	I'll put out some CW CQ calls between  0800 and 1000 GMT this
> Saturday and Sunday around about 136.3 kHz.
> 	M0FMT says he'll try to join me for a QSO.
> 	We're both QRP but if you can hear us we'd welcome a call or a
> report via the reflector.
> 
> 	73 Chris G3XIZ

Hi Chris
Report 539 at 10:00, weaker than the usual 559 in previous weeks?
No sign of M0FMT ... Yet
73 Ko, NL9222

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To All from PA0SE

This Saturday morning I worked a new station: Hans, PA3GXB. Location is 
Rozenburg, West of Rotterdam. Loc JO21CV.
He was RST 5 8/9 9 with me. Hans is using a Ropex "The First"   and with 
his signal he should be able to work stations outside The Netherlands.
After the QSO I was called by Chris, G3XIZ. I gave him RST 569 but then 
lost him due to sudden local QRM.

73, Dick, PA0SE




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Some signals to report today:

VO1NA:
Only partial copy of the weak QRSS30 signal 0200-0230 UTC.

WD2XES:
Copied a few lines of the WOLF transmission on 136.318. The decoding
was made from a soundfile started at 0040UTC.

WD2XGJ:
Strong signal in QRSS60 and QRSS30 mode 0045-0330 UTC.

WD2XKO:
Some traces on 137.77775 0200-0300UTC on the QRSS120 screen.

Nothing else copied.

Captures can be seen here:

http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm


73
Hartmut

Locator:JO52ho
www.h-wolff.de



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Dex,

      I have the same situation here. I run a G0MRF TX with an external dds synthesizer and get pretty substantial key clicks. Although I haven't implemented it yet, it may be helpful to key the HT supply to the PA with a shaped waveform.
There is a circuit for doing this on Dave Pick's website:

http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm#PSU

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi


> I have noticed some nasty keying spikes while keying the G0MRF 300 watt 
> amp with the ZL1BPU exciter.  I know this is probably to be expected by 
> keying the input signal to the amp instead of the amp's keying circuit.  
> Anyone have an idea for how to make this exciter amp combination key better?
> 
> Tnx,
> Dex
> 


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I have noticed some nasty keying spikes while keying the G0MRF 300 watt 
amp with the ZL1BPU exciter.  I know this is probably to be expected by 
keying the input signal to the amp instead of the amp's keying circuit.  
Anyone have an idea for how to make this exciter amp combination key better?

Tnx,
Dex


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	I'll put out some CW CQ calls between  0800 and 1000 GMT this
Saturday and Sunday around about 136.3 kHz.
	M0FMT says he'll try to join me for a QSO.
	We're both QRP but if you can hear us we'd welcome a call or a
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	73 Chris G3XIZ

	
	

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137,422 KHz Wolf 200W  - Ill run it till around 13Z UTC  Friday then  XDW 
will be off for a few days.

Laurence KL1X/5
em26aq bartlesville OK




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Hi All,

If you look at the NELS Notes in the Newsletter dated 22/03/2004 accessed
from the home page it suggests that LORAN-C will continue in France until
2015 & establish 2 more LORAN-C stations & Norway finish on 31 December
2005. No mention of a UK option.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Costas Krallis
SV1XV
Sent: 04 August 2005 18:49
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At 09:46 04/8/2005 +0100, you wrote:

>Dear all.
>
>Has anyone noticed this announcement at <file://www.nels.org>www.nels.org ?
>NOTICE CONCERNING LORAN-C IN NORTHWEST EUROPE  The Northwest European
Loran-C System (NELS) will be discontinued on 1 January 2006. However the
Loran-C signal will remain available in part of the present coverage area.
The most up-to-date information can be found on
<http://www.nels.org>http://www.nels.org  Further notification with more
details will be issued before 1 October 2005.
>Kirsten Ullbæk Selvig Chairman NELS Steering Committee
>
>When did it appear?

Hi Dave,

I have seen this message a few months ago, but I don't
remember when exactly.

73 Costas SV1XV







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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Pick" <dave@picks.force9.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: LF: Coping with Loran


>
> Dear all.
>
> In the next Radcom LF column would like to do a piece about the effect of
> Rugby Loran on UK stations.
> How much interference is there at your QTH?
> How are you coping with the QRM? Etc.
>
> All info welcome at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave G3YXM
Hi Dave.
Ref info that you require about the Rugby Loran.
Using my 80 metre loop opt direction East/West there is no trace of Loran
qrm.
Using my inv L vert system ie 4 inv L ants parallel each 120 ft vert and and
abt 400 ft horiz the qrm is severe and could be a problem even at this
distance, fortunately the LOOP nulls out this qrm completely and since most
acty of interest is from the E or W direction it is not a problem for me.
This loop is so good for rejection to the South that I often cannot see or
hear G stnn from this direction, especially the qrp acty in the South of
England. I have not done any serious measurements so far but a rough check
on 137 khz  indicates loran qrm lines about 30 db over the ambient noise
floor here using the vert anternna.
Hope this helps and I can understand your concern at your QTH where it might
render the LF band impossible to use.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

>
>
>



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At 09:46 04/8/2005 +0100, you wrote:

>Dear all. 
>
>Has anyone noticed this announcement at <file://www.nels.org>www.nels.org ? 
>NOTICE CONCERNING LORAN-C IN NORTHWEST EUROPE  The Northwest European Loran-C System (NELS) will be discontinued on 1 January 2006. However the Loran-C signal will remain available in part of the present coverage area.  The most up-to-date information can be found on <http://www.nels.org>http://www.nels.org  Further notification with more details will be issued before 1 October 2005. 
>Kirsten Ullbæk Selvig Chairman NELS Steering Committee       
>
>When did it appear? 

Hi Dave,

I have seen this message a few months ago, but I don't 
remember when exactly.

73 Costas SV1XV






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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Dear all.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Has anyone noticed this announcement at </FONT><A HREF="file://www.nels.org"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">www.nels.org</FONT></U></A><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> ?</FONT>
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<P><B><I><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">NOTICE CONCERNING LORAN-C IN NORTHWEST EUROPE</FONT></SPAN></I></B><I><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></I><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">The Northwest European Loran-C System (NELS) will be discontinued on 1 January 2006.<BR>
However the Loran-C signal will remain available in part of the present coverage area.</FONT></I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">The most up-to-date information can be found on </FONT></I></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.nels.org"><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Times New Roman">http://www.nels.org</FONT></U></I></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I></I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">Further notification with more details will be issued before 1 October 2005.</FONT></I></SPAN>
<UL><UL><UL><UL>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><I><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">Kirsten Ullbæk Selvig<BR>
Chairman NELS Steering Committee</FONT></I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">When did it appear?</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Is there light at the end of our tunnel?</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">73 in hope&#8230; Dave G3YXM.</FONT></SPAN>
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>>Mike G3XDV is probably right that the
>>changes are more likely changes in the "environmental losses" due to >>wet
trees and buildings.

I agree with Alan and Mike on the loss thing... My measurements showed that
most radical changes where related to weather events and changes in
environmental conditions around the antenna system... Most notably was some
graphs I produced showing the input power varying with rain, and even the
sun directly shining on the antenna and loading coil.  These graphs showed
that there seems to be a recovery time constant after an 'event' that
changes the antennas environment and this time constant remained fairly
constant for the 6 month measurement period(Fall, Winter and Spring)...

One could explain the variations by considering the dielectric changes in
the system's capacitance I guess.

73 Scott

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi Mike (and Mike), I have considered doing some longer term measurements
> here. I did spend several weeks in my early career doing 4 probe
measuements
> on silicon wafers and ingots. I have this nagging suspicion that although
> ground resistance changes with the weather, it probably doesn't make as
big
> an effect as one might think. Part of the reason for this thinking is the
> way we have managed to get the "ground loss" down at a number of different
> sites, with totally different soils. Mike G3XDV is probably right that the
> changes are more likely changes in the "environmental losses" due to wet
> trees and buildings. Also some measurements that Finbar did that showed
> ground loss increasing after rain. I am not sure now whether we thought to
> "tweak" the wires to shake off any water film. It took about 30 minutes
> after precipitation stopped for the loss measurement to return to
"normal".
> Insulator loss was not a problem as be were using a very low voltage
source,
> and a bridge. Finbar is on rock, he jokes about planting out the garden
> using dynamite to make the planting holes.....but he is right on the sea
> edge.
>
> Bill Ashwell has measurments suggecting that there is an effect on loops
> where the bottom wire is close to the ground. Most of the states-side big
> loops have the bottom wire above head level I believe.....once its got to
be
> off the ground, this is problably the most convenient, for the rest of the
> family at least.
>
> To Brian G3YKB, could it be that your insertion of coils killed the
> basically low impeadance / high current nature of the loop and introduced
a
> significant voltage on the loop. this would then drives a current through
> the lossy (capacitive) environemt of the foliage. The US stations have
found
> that provided the impedance is kept low ( Lawrence runs in the order of 40
> amp RF at 400 w) there is no appreciable loss to the trees, and little
needs
> to be done to insulate, or space the antenna from the trees. These loops
are
> big ...up to 400 feet circumference, and stretched over 70 foot high
trees,
> using no insulators.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>
>
>



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Hi Mike (and Mike), I have considered doing some longer term measurements
here. I did spend several weeks in my early career doing 4 probe measuements
on silicon wafers and ingots. I have this nagging suspicion that although
ground resistance changes with the weather, it probably doesn't make as big
an effect as one might think. Part of the reason for this thinking is the
way we have managed to get the "ground loss" down at a number of different
sites, with totally different soils. Mike G3XDV is probably right that the
changes are more likely changes in the "environmental losses" due to wet
trees and buildings. Also some measurements that Finbar did that showed
ground loss increasing after rain. I am not sure now whether we thought to
"tweak" the wires to shake off any water film. It took about 30 minutes
after precipitation stopped for the loss measurement to return to "normal".
Insulator loss was not a problem as be were using a very low voltage source,
and a bridge. Finbar is on rock, he jokes about planting out the garden
using dynamite to make the planting holes.....but he is right on the sea
edge.

Bill Ashwell has measurments suggecting that there is an effect on loops
where the bottom wire is close to the ground. Most of the states-side big
loops have the bottom wire above head level I believe.....once its got to be
off the ground, this is problably the most convenient, for the rest of the
family at least.

To Brian G3YKB, could it be that your insertion of coils killed the
basically low impeadance / high current nature of the loop and introduced a
significant voltage on the loop. this would then drives a current through
the lossy (capacitive) environemt of the foliage. The US stations have found
that provided the impedance is kept low ( Lawrence runs in the order of 40
amp RF at 400 w) there is no appreciable loss to the trees, and little needs
to be done to insulate, or space the antenna from the trees. These loops are
big ...up to 400 feet circumference, and stretched over 70 foot high trees,
using no insulators.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK




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<DIV><B><I>Mike Dennison &lt;mike.dennison@ntlworld.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;Although it is interesting to know the ground conductivity, the main<BR>&gt;losses in a small LF antenna are environmental. This includes losses<BR>&gt;in trees, buildings etc. These are sometimes all lumped together and<BR>&gt;misleadingly described as 'ground losses'.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hi All, </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've been making some changes/measurements on my rectangular loop </DIV>
<DIV>which seem to confirm Mike's findings.&nbsp;The loop is 3.5m high by 8m wide.</DIV>
<DIV>It has a DC resistance of 0.5 ohms and an RF resistance (at 136 kHz</DIV>
<DIV>resonance) of 0.9 ohms (skin effect?). I recently put two 550 microHenry coils in the </DIV>
<DIV>horizontal parts of the loop - each coil has a DC resistance of 1.5 ohms and </DIV>
<DIV>a Q at 136 kHz of about 120 ie an equivalent series resistance of about 4 ohms.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I was hoping that the total equivalent series resistance would be about 10 ohms </DIV>
<DIV>(ie one loop plus two coils) but it&nbsp;measures&nbsp;40 ohms !!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The loop is hung from the branches of&nbsp;trees and although not totally </DIV>
<DIV>surrounded by leaves, it's more than 50%. As there is no earth connection </DIV>
<DIV>involved I guess the extra 30 ohms of loss is due to the&nbsp;dielectric properties of </DIV>
<DIV>the&nbsp;wood and leaves.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brian - G3YKB</DIV><p>
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Hi all, yes the peak on Steve's plot for DCF39 is the best for a month or
so. It is very interesting that as I surmised earlier, the improvement has
come on the "tail" of some solar/geomag activity. This would seem to confirm
that dead quiet conditions are not the best for long distance DX. Steve's
window is widening as the days get shorter again but the increase is much
more dramatic.
Thanks for all the comments
Best Wishes de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Subject: LF: XDW Howling


> WD2XDW WOLF 137.422 KHz 200W output 0045Z 3rd Aug 05 until advised
>
> Nice M3 flare caused good daylight XDW peak today at 1830Z on Steves W3EEE
> grabber - hint of the same on DCF39 perhaps.
>
> Laurence KL1X EM26AQ
> Oklahoma
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> IŽam mesuring ground conductivity over almost 1 year regularly
> today it was 15,6 Ohm / m ( measured with 16Volt@ 50Hz )
> I try to built a measuring device with other frequency , somthing odd
> ( no multibles from 50Hz, thinking about  111 Hz - ) and automatic
> daily measurements ( at present times done manually)
> Would like to discuss about it
> Uwe, DK1KQ

Although it is interesting to know the ground conductivity, the main 
losses in a small LF antenna are environmental. This includes losses 
in trees, buildings etc. These are sometimes all lumped together and 
misleadingly described as 'ground losses'.

A more useful thing to measure would be the total environmental loss 
which varies with the seasons (my antenna needs much more inductance 
when the leaves fall off the trees) and weather effects such as rain 
and frozen soil.

Mike, G3XDV
(currently QRT because of high work loads)
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WD2XDW WOLF 137.422 KHz 200W output 0045Z 3rd Aug 05 until advised

Nice M3 flare caused good daylight XDW peak today at 1830Z on Steves W3EEE 
grabber - hint of the same on DCF39 perhaps.

Laurence KL1X EM26AQ
Oklahoma
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Hello Uwe,

mike@pickmere.demon.co.uk

Thank you very much.

73

Mike



In message <001201c596a1$94223ce0$0600a8c0@router>, Uwe Wensauer 
<uwe.wensauer@gmx.de> writes
>Hi Mike,
>please send me Your e-mail- adress.
>then I will send You my collected datas ( Exel ) which can be transformed
>into a plot ( as far as I know ...)
>Also could provide diagram / setup for measurements
>Uwe
>Â 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Mike Underhill
>  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:03 PM
>  Subject: LF: RE: Soil Conductivity Measurement
>
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>  Uwe, I would be very interested in a plot of how the conductivity has
>  varied over the year and in what the largest variation of maximum to
>  minimum that you have found?Â 
>
>
>  Â 
>
>
>  It would also be useful to measure at a frequency closer to 136Khz for
>  comparison purposes? Â It would have to be at a frequency away from
>  interference and the test signal would have to be strong enough to
>  overcome interference.Â 
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>  Â 
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>  Has anyone on the list experience in measuring ground conductivity at
>  such frequencies?
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>  Â 
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>
>  Mike â G3LHZ
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>  Â 
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>
>  IÂŽam mesuring ground conductivity over almost 1 year regularly
>
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>  Â 
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>
>  today it was 15,6 Ohm / m ( measured with 16Volt@ 50Hz )
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>  Â 
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>
>  Â 
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>  I try to built a measuring device with other frequency , somthing odd ( no
>  multibles from 50Hz, thinking aboutÂ  111 Hz - )
>
>
>  and automatic daily measurements ( at present times done manually)
>
>
>  Â 
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>
>  Would like to discuss about it
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>  Â 
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>  Uwe, DK1KQ
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>IŽam mesuring ground conductivity over almost 1 
year regularly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>today it was 15,6 Ohm / m ( measured with 16Volt@ 
50Hz )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I try to built a measuring device with other 
frequency , somthing odd ( no multibles from 50Hz, thinking about&nbsp; 111 Hz - 
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and automatic daily measurements ( at present times 
done manually)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to discuss about it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uwe, DK1KQ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<font face="Courier New" size=2></font>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Overture to the 
following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>    
    in the&nbsp;area of our local community citizens 
are upset because</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>there have been&nbsp;falls of 
ground surface (Erdfall) some</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>     
               
  two or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>three meter deep </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>opening caves of two to four cubic meter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>scientists do not know what 
the reason is. they belief (!)</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>    
             
        
lime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>has been washed 
out&nbsp;during hundred of years and the abt one meter </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>thick earth above the 
cave&nbsp;breaks without any warning. is that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>phenomenon known 
elsewhere?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>    
  the community self government asked the authority to find out 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>whether there are more "caves" 
around. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>   they came and 
tried it by measuring the earthresistivity. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>method: they&nbsp;ram 
standardized </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>        
      
      metal rods into the surface </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>and connected 100V DC(!)via a 
measuring equipment. the&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>technicians&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>taking those measurements in the vecinity of 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>my yard told me the result: 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>      
            110 
Ohm/m.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>     I 
was not surprised because my own&nbsp;tests using&nbsp;AC (50Hz)&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>showed 113,7 Ohm/m. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>OK.,&nbsp;it does not state 
that it&nbsp;must be 113 Ohm/m&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>  
in a 136kHz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>aerial 
system</FONT>&nbsp;.</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>   
  BTW.they do use&nbsp;a pulsemodulated elf 
carrier&nbsp;and the echo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>method if in&nbsp;search of 
p.e. oil.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV background-color: #ffffff; background-repeat:repeat; margin-left:0cm; 
margin-right:0cm?><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Uwe/dj8wx 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Thanks Walter - this is most helpful. </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Dear Steve,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the RS1003 
  was in use in telecommunication transmitters. It delivers up to 100W on 100MHz 
  with 800V. I used it 1957/59 as PA, when we had a permit for the 
  70,2-70,3MHz-band in the IGY ( International Geophysical Year ).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>73&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  DJ2LF</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Ursprüngliche 
    Nachricht-----</B><BR><B>Von: </B>Steve McDonald &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:jsm@gulfislands.com">jsm@gulfislands.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>An: 
    </B><A 
    href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum: 
    </B>Sonntag, 31. Juli 2005 18:44<BR><B>Betreff: </B>LF: Re: Re: European 
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;RS1003 Siemens</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Yes Federico...that's the one. Has anyone 
      seen this tube used in 
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WD2XDW back on 137.7752 to appx 137.7757 Khz with stepped increases in 
carrier freq by 0.08Hz around 90 secs period  for each carrier period. CW id 
  and info is also on. Power is around 800W from the PA.

Im off tune by about 0.9dB and ill adjust that tonight. Guess a tree branch 
must have moved as I need more "C" on the loop

Laurence KL1X em26aq
status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow




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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>please send me Your e-mail- adress.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>then I will send You my collected datas ( Exel ) 
which can be transformed into a plot ( as far as I know ...)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also could provide diagram / setup for 
measurements</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uwe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=mike@underhill.co.uk href="mailto:mike@underhill.co.uk">Mike 
  Underhill</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 01, 2005 1:03 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: Soil Conductivity 
  Measurement</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=Section1>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Uwe, I would be very 
  interested in a plot of how the conductivity has varied over the year and in 
  what the largest variation of maximum to minimum that you have found?&nbsp; 
  </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It would also be 
  useful to measure at a frequency closer to 136Khz for comparison purposes? 
  &nbsp;It would have to be at a frequency away from interference and the test 
  signal would have to be strong enough to overcome interference.&nbsp; 
  </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has anyone on the 
  list experience in measuring ground conductivity at such 
  frequencies?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike  
  G3LHZ</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IŽam mesuring ground conductivity 
  over almost 1 year regularly</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">today it was 15,6 Ohm / m ( 
  measured with 16Volt@ 50Hz )</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
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  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I try to built a measuring device 
  with other frequency , somthing odd ( no multibles from 50Hz, thinking 
  about&nbsp; 111 Hz - )</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and automatic daily measurements ( 
  at present times done manually)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Would like to discuss about 
  it</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Uwe, DK1KQ</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial PTSIZE=10
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J.B., LF Group,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did some experiments a while back with different
ground configurations; like several other people, I found that once a
reasonable ground connection was in place, further additions to the ground
system only produce small improvements. Here the soil is clay, so fairly easy
to drive rods into, and probably quite low resistivity. I found that a single
1m ground rod resulted in the antenna system having of the order of 20 ohms
more resistance than multiple ground rods spaced a few metres apart around the
feed point. Adding ground rods one by one had roughly the effect of paralleling
20ohm resistors, and once I reached 6 or so, there was very little improvement
to be had by increasing the number &#8211; at this point the overall loss resistance
was still something over 30 ohms (for a 9m high, 40m long inverted L). </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When I connected ground rods that were a
greater distance from the feed point (10m or more), very little current flowed
through these &#8211; although they might have a low resistance, the overall
impedance of these ground connections is increased due to the distributed
inductance of the connecting wire, so they are not very effective. I expect this
would apply to your well shaft. You can overcome this, and even up the current
distribution, by isolating the antenna feed from the local ground, and equalizing
the impedance of the ground connections, either by bringing them to a common &#8220;bus&#8221;
point with roughly equal lengths of wire to all the grounds, or by adding
balancing inductance in series with the shorter ground connections (these types
of arrangement seems to have been very popular for LF/VLF antennas in the 20s
and 30s). I tried this in several different configurations, but in spite of
successfully evening up the current distribution over a wide grounding area, it
only reduced the overall antenna losses by a further 10% or thereabouts. I also
tried a counterpoise supported about 2m off the ground, and covering all
available area (about 12m x 50m) &#8211; this also only reduced the loss
resistance by a few ohms. </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I came to the conclusion that, once this
stage was reached, most of the loss must be due to dielectric losses caused by
the electric field of the antenna penetrating poorly conducting materials
around the antenna (the ground underneath, buildings, trees, etc.). This was
supported by the loss resistance decreasing with increasing frequency (it went
from around 300ohm at 10kHz to 16 ohm at 500kHz as I recall). Increasing
frequency leads to reduced antenna voltage for a given antenna current, so
lower dielectric loss. A similar antenna put up during an expedition in an open
field site, clear of trees and obstructions, had a somewhat lower loss
resistance (maybe 20 ohms), so I think the majority of the loss occurs in the
actual soil under the antenna. As Alan points out, this type of loss can be
reduced by increasing the antenna capacitance (more wire). It can also be
reduced by increasing the height (further from the ground = reduced field at
ground level) and keeping the wire away from trees and buildings. It would seem
that, at least in my circumstances, there is little to be gained by improving
the ground system. Commercial LF antennas are much higher and longer than
amateur ones, so will have much lower losses from this source &#8211; for these
antennas, a few ohms of loss in the ground system will make a big difference.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers, Jim Moritz</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>73 de M0BMU</span></font></p>

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Yes, I have been using the 150mm (6") pipe in our well with quite good
results. The pipe is 12m long and goes about 11 m (36ft) through soil
and about 1m into the granite rock below (total hole depth is 111m).

At resonance, my antenna had a feedpoint resistance of 35 ohms.
The loading coil loss was around 8 ohms, including the variometer,
leaving a loss resistance of about 27 ohms for ground connection +
"environmental loss". The TX was connected to the pipe ground via
25m 2.5mm^2 wire laying on the ground. I made an interesting observation
when connecting the mains protective ground in parallel with the
"pipe ground" - the feedpoint resistance increased to 50-60 ohms!...

The antenna was an 85 meter long inverted L at an average height of 14m.

73
Johan SM6LKM


J. B. Weazle McCreath wrote:
> [...] However, about 150 feet from my house is a water well in the
 > form of an 8 inch diameter steel pipe that goes down 275 feet!
 > Has anyone on the list had any experience using such as a ground
 > for a Marconi antenna? [...]


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<font size=3>To All from PA0SE<br><br>
Mike, G3LHZ, wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">Has
anyone on the list experience in measuring ground conductivity at such
frequencies?</blockquote><br>
</font><font face="arial" size=3>I do it by first resonating the aerial
system at 137kHz. Then I measure the total resistance of the aerial-earth
system by connecting a measuring bridge between the bottom&nbsp; end of
the coil and earth. The bridge can be a simple one because it only has to
measure a pure resistance. Loss resistance of the coil can be found from
its inductance and Q. Subtracting this from the total resistance yields
the earth resistance. Radiation resistance and loss resistance of the
aerial itself are negligible contributions to the total.<br><br>
It is indeed important to measure the resistance at the actual working
frequency as it is frequency dependent. See ON7YD's website<br>
<a href="http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136khz.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136khz.htm</a>.<br><br>
In my station the only earth electrode is the gas mains. Earth resistance
varies with season and humidity of the ground but usually is of the order
of 22 ohms or so. But we live in a polder almost with our feet in the
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<DIV>Hello LFer's,</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks to all who responded to my query about a well casing being a 
suitable ground for a 136 kHz. Marconi antenna.&nbsp; Measurement seems to be 
the definative answer to whether or not it will work.&nbsp; I don't plan on 
transmitting just yet, as I'm&nbsp;only a newby on the LF scene and want to see 
what winter will bring receiving-wise before I even think about producing 
RF.&nbsp; Perhaps a loop transmit antenna would be more effective given my poor 
soil conditions here.&nbsp; Thanks again!</DIV>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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of how the conductivity has varied over the year and in what the largest variation
of maximum to minimum that you have found?  </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It would also be useful to measure at a
frequency closer to 136Khz for comparison purposes?  It would have to be at a
frequency away from interference and the test signal would have to be strong
enough to overcome interference.  </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Has anyone on the list experience in
measuring ground conductivity at such frequencies?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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regularly</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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somthing odd ( no multibles from 50Hz, thinking about&nbsp; 111 Hz - )</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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Some of the cave radio people are also looking at this, with particular interest in any effects at 87kHz. They will probably conduct experiments at the next field meet (probably in the Yorkshire Dales) in October.

I shall not be able to take part as I am in the middle of moving to France and do not expect to have things sorted out very quickly.

73
John G3PAI

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On 01/08/2005 at 08:58 Dave Pick wrote:

>Dear all.
>
>In the next Radcom LF column would like to do a piece about the effect of
>Rugby Loran on UK stations. 
>How much interference is there at your QTH? 
>How are you coping with the QRM? Etc.
>
>All info welcome at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk 
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dave G3YXM






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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>IŽam mesuring ground conductivity over almost 1 
year regularly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>today it was 15,6 Ohm / m ( measured with 16Volt@ 
50Hz )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I try to built a measuring device with other 
frequency , somthing odd ( no multibles from 50Hz, thinking about&nbsp; 111 Hz - 
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and automatic daily measurements ( at present times 
done manually)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to discuss about it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uwe, DK1KQ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear Steve,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the RS1003 
was in use in telecommunication transmitters. It delivers up to 100W on 100MHz 
with 800V. I used it 1957/59 as PA, when we had a permit for the 
70,2-70,3MHz-band in the IGY ( International Geophysical Year ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>73&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
DJ2LF</FONT></DIV>
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  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;RS1003 Siemens</FONT></DIV>
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Dear all.

In the next Radcom LF column would like to do a piece about the effect of
Rugby Loran on UK stations. 
How much interference is there at your QTH? 
How are you coping with the QRM? Etc.

All info welcome at g3yxm@wireless.org.uk 

Thanks.

Dave G3YXM




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Yup, Thanks Stewart, caught out !, I was assuming the PA would deliver the
same voltage but of course that would mean it was supplying twice the power.
I have intended to consider an equal power in both states so your 3dB is
correct....even so a doubling of ERP for just putting wire in the air is not
to be sneezed at !! We know from hard experience 3dB on QRSS is the
difference between "T" and "O" reports.

We have come so far in our understnding including the effects of loops in
combating local "environmental losses" I really feel we have made some
contributions to some areas of LF. mainly because of our real estate and
financial limitations compared with the professionals.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart Nelson" <sn@scgroup.com>
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Suitable ground? Measure it !!


> Hi Alan and all,
>
> > However in practice
> > the capacity of the antenna continues to increase at about 5 to 6 pF per
> > metre. This turns out to have two useful effects. First is reduces the
size
> > of the loading coil required to resonate the antenna, and hence reduces
> > tuning losses. Secondly it reduces the current density flowing into the
> > ground. Measurements show, and they are supported by some theory from
Alex,
> > that if you double the antenna capacity you half the ground loss. Since
ERP
> > is current squared, halving the ground loss doubles the antenna current,
> > giving a four-fold,  6dB, more ERP ( a cheap "amplifier").
>
> IMHO that is misleading.  If you halve the ground loss (and also halve the
> loading coil loss resistance), you could have twice the antenna current,
> only if the transmitter can deliver it at the original feedpoint voltage.
> But most of us have PAs with limited output power, and would need to
> adjust the matching transformer for the new impedance (reduce turns ratio
> by sqrt(2)).  So, we would "only" gain 3 dB more ERP from the improved
> antenna.
>
> 73,
>
> Stewart KK7KA
>
>
>



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Hi Alan and all,

> However in practice
> the capacity of the antenna continues to increase at about 5 to 6 pF per
> metre. This turns out to have two useful effects. First is reduces the size
> of the loading coil required to resonate the antenna, and hence reduces
> tuning losses. Secondly it reduces the current density flowing into the
> ground. Measurements show, and they are supported by some theory from Alex,
> that if you double the antenna capacity you half the ground loss. Since ERP
> is current squared, halving the ground loss doubles the antenna current,
> giving a four-fold,  6dB, more ERP ( a cheap "amplifier"). 

IMHO that is misleading.  If you halve the ground loss (and also halve the
loading coil loss resistance), you could have twice the antenna current,
only if the transmitter can deliver it at the original feedpoint voltage.
But most of us have PAs with limited output power, and would need to
adjust the matching transformer for the new impedance (reduce turns ratio
by sqrt(2)).  So, we would "only" gain 3 dB more ERP from the improved
antenna.

73,

Stewart KK7KA




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Hi J, I asked a similar question when I started to get interested in LF, but
I found that the "advice" was often comflicting. It seemed that what suited
one person, one site, did not necessarily suit a different location. Much of
the accepted "wisdom" was based on the construction of commercial LW and BC
transmitting sites. Whilst this is beyond criticism it seems that it often
does not bear much relevance to amateur situations. How many amateurs can
put one quarter wave "radial" (1800 feet long)  out at 136 or even 190kHz
never mind 120?  Another factor comes to bear...most commercial antennas are
verticals....in this case there needs to be a good ground near the base of
the mast and out a distance at least equal to the height ofthe mast. This is
where the capacity of the antenna is "generated", and you want a low loss
capacitor. The situation is different on HF where radials are a more
significant portion of a wavelength. To get it in perspective a 100 foot
"radial" on 136 is like laying a 4 foot long radial on 80m and expecting to
see an improvement.

The Marconi is completely different and not used much by commercial LF
stations after about 1920. A paper by Meissner of Telfunken (?) copied in
the Appendix of the LF Experimenters Handbook (by Peter Dodd G3LDO),
describes experiments at the Geman VLF station at Nauen. The Germans had a
problem in 1920....lack of cash....and could not afford enormous copper
ground systems. Meissner investigated an antenna which a circulat "top-hat"
...like a Marconi spun about its vertical section. He made some important
discoveries that were used at Nauen and promptly forgotten about 10 years
later when long distance comms moved to the HF area. The major finding was
that the maximum "return" current, which after passing through the antenna
capacitance flows back to the transmitter "negative terminal", is not
collected under the feed point but under the remote end of the top-load.
This is not so strange when you remember that this is the maximum voltage
point. It turns out that with a Marconi it is better to "collect" the
current with a star of relatively shallow ground spikes from under the
remote end of the top load. It is also best if the collecting wire runs back
to the transmitter under the topload. There is some evidence that "tuning"
the return with a capacitor can provide a further improvement but I have not
tried this. I am working from memory now but half of the experimental site
at Nauen was boggy and I think he also found that wet ground was a worse
situation than "dry" ground !!.

The amateur situation is different again from this because there is almost
never an antenna in total isolation from lossy surrounding such as trees and
buildings. This to some extent is why there are location differences. I
became convinced that the only way to develope an antenna with minimum
ground loss was to build a simple bridge and measure it. (Details on my web
site) This way you can quickly evaluate changes without confusion due to
power dependent effects like corona when trying to maximise feed current.
You can even avoid having to allow for tuning component losses because you
just measure the antenna a capacity and resistance in series. The radiation
resistance of most practical amateur scale antennas is so small that
effectively the major component of resistance measured is the ground loss.

There is another factor in Marconi antennas that is ot modelled in NEC or
its offshoots. That is the effect of "flat-tops" Most of the "accepted
wisdom" on the Marconi will tell you that once the length of the top-wire is
about equal to the height of the vertical segment there is no advantage in
stringing any more top wire. THIS IS NOT CORRECT. It is true that there is
no appreciable increase in effective height or radiation resistance from
increasing the length of the top wire beyond this value. However in practice
the capacity of the antenna continues to increase at about 5 to 6 pF per
metre. This turns out to have two useful effects. First is reduces the size
of the loading coil required to resonate the antenna, and hence reduces
tuning losses. Secondly it reduces the current density flowing into the
ground. Measurements show, and they are supported by some theory from Alex,
that if you double the antenna capacity you half the ground loss. Since ERP
is current squared, halving the ground loss doubles the antenna current,
giving a four-fold,  6dB, more ERP ( a cheap "amplifier"). The rider on this
is that the top wire must be over "open ground" and not over lossy
buildings, trees or bushes. The extra capacity can be added as a star or
meander configuration it does not seem to matter. Using this technique
several stations over here have reduced their ground loss to about 10 ohms
(Laurie G3AQC, and Finbar EI0CF) but it requires usually in excess of 1200pF
or a total of 240m or top wire spaced at least 1m apart

Once you have cleared this one and you go above 100 watts or so you need to
be looking to reduce "insulator" losses usually corona discharges

That is a bit of a load but I copied it to the group as it may be of general
interest and there really is no alternative to measuring the changes you
make, rather than relying on what works elsewhere.

Sorry to be a bore for those who have seen me exercise my "hobby horse"
before

Regards de Alan G3NYK
www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 30 July 2005 23:53
Subject: LF: Suitable ground?


Hello LFer's,

The soil at my QTH is composed mostly of gravel, which makes getting a
decent ground for RF purposes rather difficult for two reasons, driving in
ground rods, and
poor soil conductivity.  However, about 150 feet from my house is a water
well in
the form of an 8 inch diameter steel pipe that goes down 275 feet!  Has
anyone
on the list had any experience using such as a ground for a Marconi antenna?

Cheers, J.B.
VE3EAR - VE3WZL
EN93dr





