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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28300 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 22:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 22:07:05 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DH7oy-000FzV-4i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:07:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DH7oy-000FzS-2V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:07:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DH7of-000AKu-Gd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:07:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DH7oF-00037l-70 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:06:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DH7oE-00037c-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:06:38 +0100 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DH7oD-0004Qg-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:06:38 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.1f7.6b4a8ee (17377) for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:06:29 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1f7.6b4a8ee.2f7dce64@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:06:28 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.144.208 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob,

good news! I have looked on my grabber's screen which showed Joze S52AB, "RU" (presumably from Ed RU6LA) on 922.08, Teo's "AR" around 921.70, Laurie's "AQC", and a local OCXO reference line on 920.0.

During the tests I also ran a decimated audio recording, using DL4YHF's SndInput tool. For comparison I produced a Spectrogram from it, having the same resolution (5.2 milliHz / 12 seconds) and borders as your Argo.

The upper trace in your capture is clearly the RU signal, even the slight chirp is reproduced well. The dashes beneath it must then be AR again.

The pictures (including yours) can be downloaded from
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_050331.zip (290kB)

Congratulations again, excellent stuff!

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 31.03.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

I may have got two weak signals in the pre-dawn capture this morning. Comments invited. I've emailed Markus a full image file in the hope that he can assist with possible identification.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25490 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 22:15:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 22:15:14 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DH7wY-0000aP-8A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:15:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DH7wY-0000aM-6Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:15:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DH7wY-000LhS-2x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:15:14 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DH7wH-0003CF-Bu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:14:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DH7wG-0003C6-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:14:56 +0100 Received: from avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.158]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DH7wF-0004Tw-TL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:14:56 +0100 Received: from pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050331221449.BWHK22141.avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:14:49 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.86.183]) by pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050331221448.GDLH7985.pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:14:48 +1200 Message-ID: <001601c5363f$10264430$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f7.6b4a8ee.2f7dce64@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:14:51 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.158 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Markus DF6NM,

Many thanks for the prompt analysis.

73, Bob ZL2CA

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs?

Dear Bob,

good news! I have looked on my grabber's screen which showed Joze S52AB, "RU" (presumably from Ed RU6LA) on 922.08, Teo's "AR" around 921.70, Laurie's "AQC", and a local OCXO reference line on 920.0.

During the tests I also ran a decimated audio recording, using DL4YHF's SndInput tool. For comparison I produced a Spectrogram from it, having the same resolution (5.2 milliHz / 12 seconds) and borders as your Argo.

The upper trace in your capture is clearly the RU signal, even the slight chirp is reproduced well. The dashes beneath it must then be AR again.

The pictures (including yours) can be downloaded from
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_050331.zip (290kB)

Congratulations again, excellent stuff!

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 31.03.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

I may have got two weak signals in the pre-dawn capture this morning. Comments invited. I've emailed Markus a full image file in the hope that he can assist with possible identification.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17279 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 08:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 08:12:26 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHHGU-0002fl-7K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:12:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHHGU-0002fi-5W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:12:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHHJG-0004JD-Kf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:15:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHHFl-0003y4-VE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:11:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHHFl-0003xv-IJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:11:41 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHHFj-0006UR-L1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:11:41 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050401081125.MZZE28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:11:25 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.62]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050401081124.FLNM8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:11:24 +1200 Message-ID: <000701c53692$62f9cb70$3e4036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c53524$dd1a24a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001001c5355f$13d1f7e0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000701c53633$96f68ee0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:10:37 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Two weak sigs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) No sign of those signals down here in the South unfortunately. I will look again tonight. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11640 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 09:09:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 09:09:44 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHI9U-0001BK-31 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:09:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHI9T-0001BH-W3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:09:16 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHID5-0000ym-G9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:12:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHI8L-00045s-CJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:08:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHI8K-00045j-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:08:04 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHI8J-0006hp-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:08:04 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.10] (helo=altair2.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1DHI85-0004oq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:07:49 +0100 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by altair2.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1DHI84-0005rV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:07:48 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c5369a$46212d10$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003201c535ee$e61a50a0$39e4fc3e@l8p8y6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 147.197.200.9 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Dear Mal, LF Group,

No – it is possible to design these transformers with a small air gap, but there does not appear to be a great advantage to doing so because the required number of turns increases, increasing the “copper” losses and offsetting any reduction in core loss. There is always a quite large gap in the original LOPT – often this is produced by inserting plastic film spacers between the core halves. These, and any glue, should be removed so that the core halves fit together perfectly. Sometimes the gap is produced by machining the core legs to unequal lengths, in which case you can’t really use the core in this application.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 31 March 2005 13:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: TX Cores

Hi All Jim M0BMU.

Jim ur mod to the G0MRF using a TV line output transformer. Did u leave a gap between the cores or not ?

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11692 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 09:45:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 09:45:49 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHIjE-000Oq4-0p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:46:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHIjA-000OpJ-86 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:46:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHImP-0005sw-0U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:49:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHIiI-0004Bn-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:45:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHIiH-0004Be-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:45:13 +0100 Received: from outbound05.telus.net ([199.185.220.224] helo=priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHIiG-0006qQ-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:45:13 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([154.5.20.191]) by priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with SMTP id <20050401094504.FXSC24971.priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net@cognizant1> for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 02:45:04 -0700 Message-ID: <00ad01c5369f$a0e09560$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5369a$46212d10$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:46:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of telus.net designates 199.185.220.224 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Mal / Jim

I found that carefully lapping an 'uneven' core pair could render the core useful. I have had success with mine at over 600W DC input. A flat surface like a drill press or table saw would do nicely. Lie a fresh piece of 320 grit paper on it with alittle water and work in down for abit then finish off with a few strokes with finer grit. Alternate the direction you lap to get an even job...

Of course you could just find another piece of 'street ferrite' that is even... But your shack may fill up fast with monitor parts :-)

73 Scott

----- Original Message -----

From: james moritz

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:07 AM

Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores

Dear Mal, LF Group,

No – it is possible to design these transformers with a small air gap, but there does not appear to be a great advantage to doing so because the required number of turns increases, increasing the “copper” losses and offsetting any reduction in core loss. There is always a quite large gap in the original LOPT – often this is produced by inserting plastic film spacers between the core halves. These, and any glue, should be removed so that the core halves fit together perfectly. Sometimes the gap is produced by machining the core legs to unequal lengths, in which case you can’t really use the core in this application.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 31 March 2005 13:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: TX Cores

Hi All Jim M0BMU.

Jim ur mod to the G0MRF using a TV line output transformer. Did u leave a gap between the cores or not ?

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34930 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 10:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 10:03:12 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHIzg-000654-Kq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:03:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHIzg-000651-JA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:03:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHJ3I-0008Fk-4K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:06:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHIzV-0004GA-8e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:03:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHIzU-0004G1-Kv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:03:00 +0100 Received: from syd-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.104.193.196]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHIzS-0006v2-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:03:00 +0100 Received: from syd-core-1.cisco.com (64.104.193.198) by syd-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2005 20:24:41 +1000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by syd-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j31A2Gps010301 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:02:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from zen.co.uk (ams-clip-vpn-dhcp383.cisco.com [10.61.65.127]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16340 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:02:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <424D1C40.1030506@zen.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:02:40 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5369a$46212d10$e6a4c593@RD40002> In-Reply-To: <000001c5369a$46212d10$e6a4c593@RD40002> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.104.193.196 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zen.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: RE: TX Cores Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) james moritz wrote: > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Sometimes the gap is produced by machining the core legs to unequal > lengths, in which case you can’t really use the core in this application. > Depends on whether they are handed or not. Stewart G3YSX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36413 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 10:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 10:26:20 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHJMO-0007a0-Lu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:26:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHJMI-0007Y0-Jt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:26:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHJPX-0004mp-6J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:29:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHJLa-0004LE-Nv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:25:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHJLa-0004L5-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:25:50 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHJLW-00071c-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:25:50 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.8a.2402b71a (18251) for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:25:37 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.2402b71a.2f7e7ba1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:25:37 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5003 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.9 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores / current sensors Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

For anyone with an RS Components distributor nearby,

I see in their latest catalogue they have introduced a full range of ferrite cores including gapped and ungapped 'kits' that go up to the ETD 59 series (59mm across)

The ETD 59 has a volume of 51,000 mm^3 and would be quite good for a high power PA.

Other forms appear to go up to 100,000mm^2

213-4212 etc

http://rswww.com

While we're talking components. For general info:

There is a new series of current monitoring chips available in the USA.

The devices use some form of hall effect device to sense current passing between two terminals on the IC. The internal electronics converts this into a 0 - 5V DC output which can be used to e.g. drive meters, a trip circuit or the input to an A-D converter etc.

These IC's are designed for high currents. The range goes from about 10 Amps to 150Amps and all this current flows through the IC (!) Needless to say that for the larger current range the terminals that carry the current are very substantial indeed.

http://www.allegromicro.com/hall/currentsensor.asp

David

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55083 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 11:23:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 11:23:26 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHKFk-000B5p-6P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:23:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHKFR-000B1k-O1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:23:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHKIc-0005v0-VG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:26:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHKEE-0004Ss-KZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:22:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHKEE-0004Sj-90 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:22:18 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHKEC-0007KG-RJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:22:18 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.95.135 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 11:22:10 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c536ad$09684e40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8a.2402b71a.2f7e7ba1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:17:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.202 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores / current sensors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Dave there are "high-side" current sensors (Zetex ?) that dont include the resistor readily available but they need some discrete component help with LF PAs because they are only rated at about 30volts. An isolated device sounds ideal, and simplify my idea for a "PA efficiency meter" to tune up with. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 01 April 2005 11:25 Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores / current sensors > While we're talking components. For general info: > There is a new series of current monitoring chips available in the USA. > The devices use some form of hall effect device to sense current passing > between two terminals on the IC. The internal electronics converts this into a > 0 - 5V DC output which can be used to e.g. drive meters, a trip circuit or > the input to an A-D converter etc. > > These IC's are designed for high currents. The range goes from about 10 Amps > to 150Amps and all this current flows through the IC (!) Needless to say > that for the larger current range the terminals that carry the current are very > substantial indeed. > > _http://www.allegromicro.com/hall/currentsensor.asp_ > (http://www.allegromicro.com/hall/currentsensor.asp) > > > 73 > > David > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19176 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 12:27:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 12:27:21 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHLFY-000CEo-5N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:27:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHLFO-000CAE-FL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:27:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHLIc-0002Tm-Mw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:30:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHLES-0004ar-Qc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:26:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHLES-0004ai-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:26:36 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHLER-0007Yx-3V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:26:36 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005040112262701400dv0hre>; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c536b5$c16db4a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:24:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA MAR31/APR1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Occassional slight traces of AR - reception static limited. 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Hes not on the reflector I think. He has all the Eu DCF39, Eu and Na ops freqs and modes. Cheers Laurence KL1X From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81514 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 15:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 15:53:28 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHOSe-0002Yq-6K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:53:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHOSe-0002Yn-2I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:53:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHOWG-0000fT-EN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:57:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHOSO-0004ux-6F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:53:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHOSN-0004uo-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:53:11 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHOSM-00007K-Da for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:53:11 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3109.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 604526400084 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3102 (wwinf3102 [172.22.158.29]) by mwinf3109.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5ABFB6400082 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050401155304371.5ABFB6400082@mwinf3109.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <12311986.1112370784359.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.24.229] Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Richard VK7RO Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

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Message date : Apr 01 2005, 04:36 PM
From : "Laurence KL1X"
To : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Copy to :
Subject : LF: Richard VK7RO
Richard VK7RO has been easily persuaded to take a listen for LF Eu and NA
over the next couple of days..but hes having QRN issues at the moment. Hes
not on the reflector I think. He has all the Eu DCF39, Eu and Na ops freqs
and modes.

Cheers
Laurence KL1X

Thats great thanks for contacting him. I will now transmit from 1900 until 2130 , should include the dark path to Tasmania.

Freq 135.921.4/5 DFCW 180m sec elements.

73 Laurie.

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Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:29:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHP1v-00058D-K1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:29:55 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHP1u-0000Gg-24 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:29:55 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate04.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j31GTp2K011324 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:29:51 +0200 Received: from [217.248.186.240] by freemailng1801.web.de with HTTP; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:29:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:29:44 +0200 Message-Id: <326392110@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.72.192.242 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of web.de X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY=0.151,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML=0.205 Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040209000606070402050203" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040209000606070402050203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Lowfers, any ferrite core should have a gap. This is necessary to reduce the remanent flux from about 180 mT to as low as 30 mT. It may be just the residuous gap of lapped cores, preferrable is to put a layer of capton tape on one outer leg of an EE-Core (EDT59 and the like). Lowering remanent flux will rise flux swing at operation. Apparently it is not a problem at 136kHz, as core saturation is unlikely at this frequency. Saturation will occure at frequencies below 50 kHz during startup of push-pull switching circuits (symmetrical half bridge or full bridge), designed by beginners. A gap as low as 0.05 mm (one layer self adhesive film tape or a bit of varnish) will hardly lower permeability, so from urel=2700 down to urel=1500. If You can, use this effect. A toroid core is often second choice in power electronics. Two paralleled ETD cores have greater surface than two stacked toroids. With the ETDs copper volume is doubled too. not so with the stacked toroids. So if You can buy ET D cores , do it. 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Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Dear friends,

DI2AG will be switched off from 22Z today to at least 22Z on sunday because of interference work and later on absence.

73 Walter DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93762 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 18:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 18:02:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHQUM-0006hf-HN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:03:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHQUM-0006hc-FC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:03:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHQTw-000GKM-AF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:02:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHQTY-0005Lc-Ka for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:02:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHQTX-0005LT-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:02:31 +0100 Received: from fh1025.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.35] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHQTV-0000qa-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:02:31 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.58) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437CB200101B53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:02:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c536cf$63eaf580$3ae8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c5369a$46212d10$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:24:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

----- Original Message -----

From: james moritz

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:07 AM

Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores

Dear Mal, LF Group,

No – it is possible to design these transformers with a small air gap, but there does not appear to be a great advantage to doing so because the required number of turns increases, increasing the “copper” losses and offsetting any reduction in core loss. There is always a quite large gap in the original LOPT – often this is produced by inserting plastic film spacers between the core halves. These, and any glue, should be removed so that the core halves fit together perfectly. Sometimes the gap is produced by machining the core legs to unequal lengths, in which case you can’t really use the core in this application.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

Tnx Jim for the info. My LOPT cores have equal leg length, and in the past I have removed the plastic spacers when present and they work well. This appears to be what u have done ie no gap.

Thanks to all the others as well for their info.

I am working on the project at present. I notice up to a few hundred watts there never seems to be a problem with heat, explosions etc but when aiming for an o/put of 1 kw things are more critical, 2 cores needed, more robust wire on the transformer. My present project uses 2 x 26A/500V Fets on each leg ie total 4. I am hoping to get up to about 100v and see what happens. So far I have managed 800w out at 40v/22amps but above this things get tricky, pa getting hot and the winding on the o/p transformer getting warm. The design is similar to YXM/MRF with a few refinements.

I happen to have these fets so I am trying them out, lets hope they survive !!!!!!!!

All suggestions welcome. In the past I have used low voltage high current up to 60Amps and all has been well but going to a higher voltage and lower current the PA performs differently even though this would appear a better approach, using the above Fets.

I should really use my Decca and save myself a lot of trouble with home built gear, but then there is not the same satisfaction when working the DX !!!!!!

73 De Mal/G3KEV

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 31 March 2005 13:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: TX Cores

Hi All Jim M0BMU.

Jim ur mod to the G0MRF using a TV line output transformer. Did u leave a gap between the cores or not ?

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70563 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 18:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 18:33:27 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHQxw-0001u6-Um for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:33:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHQxw-0001u3-S5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:33:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHQxT-000Brh-EJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:33:27 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHQxE-0005RC-9O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:33:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHQxD-0005R3-MO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHQxB-0000zA-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@217.42.194.93 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 18:33:03 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000201c536cf$63eaf580$3ae8fc3e@l8p8y6> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: TX Cores Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Dear Mal, LF group.

If your looking for inspiration regarding Big PAs, you should take a look at G4FTC's amplifier pages.

http://www.qsl.net/g4ftc/amplifiers/136khz/home.htm

http://www.qsl.net/g4ftc/amplifiers/decca/home.htm

One of these big amps uses a bridge configuration, like the Decca PA. It seems to have some advantages....and you can run it straight form 250v mains!

73,

Dave G3WCB

(150w only...)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 01 April 2005 14:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores

----- Original Message -----

From: james moritz

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:07 AM

Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores

Dear Mal, LF Group,

No – it is possible to design these transformers with a small air gap, but there does not appear to be a great advantage to doing so because the required number of turns increases, increasing the “copper” losses and offsetting any reduction in core loss. There is always a quite large gap in the original LOPT – often this is produced by inserting plastic film spacers between the core halves. These, and any glue, should be removed so that the core halves fit together perfectly. Sometimes the gap is produced by machining the core legs to unequal lengths, in which case you can’t really use the core in this application.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

Tnx Jim for the info. My LOPT cores have equal leg length, and in the past I have removed the plastic spacers when present and they work well. This appears to be what u have done ie no gap.

Thanks to all the others as well for their info.

I am working on the project at present. I notice up to a few hundred watts there never seems to be a problem with heat, explosions etc but when aiming for an o/put of 1 kw things are more critical, 2 cores needed, more robust wire on the transformer. My present project uses 2 x 26A/500V Fets on each leg ie total 4. I am hoping to get up to about 100v and see what happens. So far I have managed 800w out at 40v/22amps but above this things get tricky, pa getting hot and the winding on the o/p transformer getting warm. The design is similar to YXM/MRF with a few refinements.

I happen to have these fets so I am trying them out, lets hope they survive !!!!!!!!

All suggestions welcome. In the past I have used low voltage high current up to 60Amps and all has been well but going to a higher voltage and lower current the PA performs differently even though this would appear a better approach, using the above Fets.

I should really use my Decca and save myself a lot of trouble with home built gear, but then there is not the same satisfaction when working the DX !!!!!!

73 De Mal/G3KEV

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of hamilton mal
Sent: 31 March 2005 13:36
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: TX Cores

Hi All Jim M0BMU.

Jim ur mod to the G0MRF using a TV line output transformer. Did u leave a gap between the cores or not ?

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67078 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 20:03:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 20:03:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHSNV-000GkB-Oc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:04:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHSNV-000Gk0-BN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:04:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHSPo-00016O-Tk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:06:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHSMQ-0005cj-BV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:03:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHSMP-0005ca-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:03:17 +0100 Received: from mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.119]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHSMN-0001lZ-OL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:03:17 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050401200302.MNMN5260.mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 08:03:02 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.86.183]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050401200301.HHLQ8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 08:03:01 +1200 Message-ID: <000901c536f5$d235dd40$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 08:03:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.119 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: A weak one? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020403000703030703030703" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020403000703030703030703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi all,

A possible weak signal in the capture viewed this morning. Once again I've sent a full Argo to Markus for "finger printing tests".

Nothing received from North America earlier on.

73, Bob ZL2CA

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In a message dated 4/1/2005 11:02:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, k2ors@comcast.net writes:

O.K., I've uninstalled.

And I've disassembled.

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21982 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 00:16:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 00:16:38 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHWJQ-0001uw-Jf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:16:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHWJQ-0001um-Cz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:16:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHWIu-000Jje-Lv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 00:15:56 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHWIE-00063L-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:15:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHWID-00063C-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:15:13 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHWIC-0002nn-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:15:13 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.30.6fa510dc (3858) for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <30.6fa510dc.2f7f3e05@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:15:01 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.4 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: A weak one? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob, Mike and Ed,

on April 1st, the Eu-grabber showed
921.89 "RU"6LA
921.29...921.70 YU7"AR"
921.50...921.44 RA3"YO"
921.44/.37...921.37/.30 G3"AQC"
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testEu0504012100.gif (164kB).

The trace in both of your Argo screenshots definitely came from RU6LA, see aligned strips
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/135922_010405_1656-1934.jpg (50kB).

Well done again!

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56369 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 04:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 04:56:17 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHagh-0003N2-6v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 05:56:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHagh-0003Mz-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 05:56:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHajr-0000p5-Dv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 06:00:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHafe-0006P7-0w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 05:55:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHafd-0006Oy-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 05:55:41 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHafb-0003Tv-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 05:55:41 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050402045532.JKPK28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:55:32 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.86.183]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050402045532.JNKR8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:55:32 +1200 Message-ID: <001b01c53740$382f8480$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c536f5$d235dd40$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:55:37 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: A weak one? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi all,

Thanks again to Markus for analysing captures. Good to see that Mike ZL4OL got a result.

Also Andrew ZL2BBJ got a weak signal last night, which going by what myself and Mike ZL4OL got, was likely Ed RU6LA.

Apologies for the time delay before commenting, I've been at a Quartz Hill working bee since mid morning. For information, there is currently serious trouble with the three phase mains power feeding Quartz Hill. A pole is broken at the end of one of the longer spans, probably a victim of the bad southerly storm last week. The power supply company should be able to drop in a new pole next week, and restore the lines. So hopefully the only HF contest missed is this weekend (ZL2AMI in a RTTY contest).

I'll be listening out again tonight, firstly for North America, then EU.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37195 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 07:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 07:40:15 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHdEt-0002E8-9F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:40:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHdEt-0002Dw-5J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:40:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHdIX-0007Gz-Gl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:44:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHdEQ-0006b3-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:39:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHdEP-0006au-L7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:39:45 +0100 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.40]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHdEN-0003jA-1j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:39:45 +0100 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20050402073933.GXFW19477.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:39:33 +0200 Received: from y4x1l1 ([212.30.68.129]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20050402073930.RFQE13274.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:39:30 +0200 Message-ID: <006401c53757$190a1220$81441ed4@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f7.6b4a8ee.2f7dce64@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:23:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.189.160.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of siol.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Dear Marcus

Thanks for INFO about my signal.I tested my LF QRO

100 , 400W & power suply on my short and lowly wire...

I have to plan transmited this evening on 135.922,2-3kHz

QRSS60 (possible 120).

Excuse me,I can t speak English very well...!

Cheers & regards

73 , Joze S52AB , JN75ou

http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/pages/lf_136-137khz.html

(not yet updated)

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:06 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs?

Dear Bob,

good news! I have looked on my grabber's screen which showed Joze S52AB, "RU" (presumably from Ed RU6LA) on 922.08, Teo's "AR" around 921.70, Laurie's "AQC", and a local OCXO reference line on 920.0.

During the tests I also ran a decimated audio recording, using DL4YHF's SndInput tool. For comparison I produced a Spectrogram from it, having the same resolution (5.2 milliHz / 12 seconds) and borders as your Argo.

The upper trace in your capture is clearly the RU signal, even the slight chirp is reproduced well. The dashes beneath it must then be AR again.

The pictures (including yours) can be downloaded from
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_050331.zip (290kB)

Congratulations again, excellent stuff!

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 31.03.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

I may have got two weak signals in the pre-dawn capture this morning. Comments invited. I've emailed Markus a full image file in the hope that he can assist with possible identification.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29451 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 08:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 08:07:05 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHdfQ-000L0N-IJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:07:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHdfQ-000L0K-G1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:07:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHder-0001s9-GN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:07:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHdeU-0006gV-4k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:06:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHdeT-0006gM-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:06:41 +0100 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.40]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHdeS-0003m7-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:06:41 +0100 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20050402080639.ICKG19477.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:06:39 +0200 Received: from y4x1l1 ([212.30.66.46]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20050402080636.RKCX13274.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:06:36 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01c5375a$e42f0c00$2e421ed4@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f7.6b4a8ee.2f7dce64@aol.com> <006401c53757$190a1220$81441ed4@y4x1l1> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:05:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.189.160.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of siol.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Marcus & other LFers

Correction FRQ this evening : 135,923.2-3 kHz...

Cheers

73 , Joze S52AB

----- Original Message -----

From: Joze Konda

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs?

Dear Marcus

Thanks for INFO about my signal.I tested my LF QRO

100 , 400W & power suply on my short and lowly wire...

I have to plan transmited this evening on 135.922,2-3kHz

QRSS60 (possible 120).

Excuse me,I can t speak English very well...!

Cheers & regards

73 , Joze S52AB , JN75ou

http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/pages/lf_136-137khz.html

(not yet updated)

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:06 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Two weak sigs?

Dear Bob,

good news! I have looked on my grabber's screen which showed Joze S52AB, "RU" (presumably from Ed RU6LA) on 922.08, Teo's "AR" around 921.70, Laurie's "AQC", and a local OCXO reference line on 920.0.

During the tests I also ran a decimated audio recording, using DL4YHF's SndInput tool. For comparison I produced a Spectrogram from it, having the same resolution (5.2 milliHz / 12 seconds) and borders as your Argo.

The upper trace in your capture is clearly the RU signal, even the slight chirp is reproduced well. The dashes beneath it must then be AR again.

The pictures (including yours) can be downloaded from
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_050331.zip (290kB)

Congratulations again, excellent stuff!

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 31.03.2005 22:54:04 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

I may have got two weak signals in the pre-dawn capture this morning. Comments invited. I've emailed Markus a full image file in the hope that he can assist with possible identification.

73, Bob ZL2CA

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Hi all,

Nothing received from North America this evening.

73, Bob ZL2CA

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Reception static limited. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22760 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 19:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 19:18:26 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHo8Y-0002m4-6O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:18:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHo8Y-0002lu-2E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:18:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHoCD-0004an-N1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:22:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHo7t-0007N9-Tl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:17:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHo7t-0007N0-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:17:45 +0100 Received: from fh1023.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.33] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHo7q-0005mg-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:17:45 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.37) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437A000017252A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:17:28 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c537b8$64223240$25e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <326392110@web.de> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:15:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

----- Original Message -----

From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:29 PM

Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND

Dear Lowfers,
any ferrite core should have a gap. This is necessary to reduce the remanent flux from about 180 mT to as low as 30 mT. It may be just the residuous gap of lapped cores, preferrable is to put a layer of capton tape on one outer leg of an EE-Core (EDT59 and the like). Lowering remanent flux will rise flux swing at operation. Apparently it is not a problem at 136kHz, as core saturation is unlikely at this frequency. Saturation will occure at frequencies below 50 kHz during startup of push-pull switching circuits (symmetrical half bridge or full bridge), designed by beginners. A gap as low as 0.05 mm (one layer self adhesive film tape or a bit of varnish) will hardly lower permeability, so from urel=2700 down to urel=1500. If You can, use this effect. A toroid core is often second choice in power electronics. Two paralleled ETD cores have greater surface than two stacked toroids. With the ETDs copper volume is doubled too. not so with the stacked toroids. So if You can buy ETD cores , do it. They are available at Conrad.com or conrad.de.

55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND

Hi Hans

Are we all talking about the same cores and applications for transformers suitable for matching FETS to a 50 ohm load in PA design for 137 khz. If the core has two halves some say leave a GAP and others say NO.

Some cores are circular and therefore there is no choice about GAPS.

Can someone please clarify the position, also some designers show a variety of turns needed for the core varying from about 4 turns to 16 for the Prim winding with the Sec up to 30 turns.

Core type refers normally to 3C85 type or equiv.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95968 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 19:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 19:27:48 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHoHb-00071p-Nj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHoHb-00071l-M3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHoKR-0007Rk-0k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:30:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHoHQ-0007RI-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHoHP-0007R9-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:35 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.29]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHoHM-0005oW-Ie for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:35 +0100 Received: from [84.13.9.105] (helo=traceydlqceh0p) by smtp-1.opaltelecom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DHoHJ-000123-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:29 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.8.4]); Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:27:36 +0100 Message-ID: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:27:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.24.128.29 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of talktalk.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: EU Loran chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This request came up on another list that I'm on and I feel sure that someone on the LF list knows where the information can be obtained? Thanks Tracey >I am interested in the exact offsets used by beacons and need to calibrate >my soundcard. > I found an excellent article at > http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/w1tag/R75cal.htm > in which John Andrews explains how to use the loran-c sidebands as a > calibration source. You need to know the GRI (Group Repetition Interval) > of > your local chain to do this. It seems fine for US listeners, because the > information is freely published. But the European Chain does not seem to > want to disclose this information and there is hardly any technical > information available. > Can anyone tell me the GRI for the European Chain, or point me to a source > of this information? > > Regards, > David Atkins > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48538 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 19:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 19:31:52 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHoMC-0001Qx-9f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:32:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHoMC-0001Qu-6P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:32:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHoOO-00017k-1I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:34:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHoLQ-0007Vi-7a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:31:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHoLP-0007VZ-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:31:43 +0100 Received: from sterling.noc-servers.net ([69.93.216.2]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHoLO-0005pa-7K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:31:43 +0100 Received: from [192.55.122.100] (helo=w2ksn) by sterling.noc-servers.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DHoLL-0003sC-C5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: <00b001c537ba$a8fcc630$1101a8c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:32:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: EU Loran chain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) http://www.megapulse.com/chaininfo.html You may be interested in 6731 Lessay 7001 Bo 7499 Sylt 9007 Eidi 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Gardner" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: LF: EU Loran chain > This request came up on another list that I'm on and I feel sure that > someone on the LF list knows where the information can be obtained? > > Thanks > > Tracey > > >I am interested in the exact offsets used by beacons and need to calibrate > >my soundcard. > > I found an excellent article at > > http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/w1tag/R75cal.htm > > in which John Andrews explains how to use the loran-c sidebands as a > > calibration source. You need to know the GRI (Group Repetition Interval) > > of > > your local chain to do this. It seems fine for US listeners, because the > > information is freely published. But the European Chain does not seem to > > want to disclose this information and there is hardly any technical > > information available. > > Can anyone tell me the GRI for the European Chain, or point me to a source > > of this information? > > > > Regards, > > David Atkins > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 63320 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 20:56:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 20:56:21 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHpfJ-0006X2-5w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:56:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHpfJ-0006Wz-2G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:56:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHpiz-0005kS-1h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:00:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHpet-0007dE-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:55:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHpes-0007d5-Hu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:55:54 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHpeq-00069w-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:55:54 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.10.133 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 20:55:45 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:53:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.195 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: EU Loran chain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Tracey, he will find a lot of stuff about Eu Loran on the late G4CNN's web site which is still flying www.qsl.net/g4cnn I also have a copy of a program written by Andy G4JNT that calculated the lines in any given frequency interval...but only for Lessay...the nearest and loudest with Andy. I think John had lists of all 4 site's line sidbands in 136. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Gardner" To: Sent: 02 April 2005 20:27 Subject: LF: EU Loran chain > This request came up on another list that I'm on and I feel sure that > someone on the LF list knows where the information can be obtained? > > Thanks > > Tracey > > >I am interested in the exact offsets used by beacons and need to calibrate > >my soundcard. > > I found an excellent article at > > http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/w1tag/R75cal.htm > > in which John Andrews explains how to use the loran-c sidebands as a > > calibration source. You need to know the GRI (Group Repetition Interval) > > of > > your local chain to do this. It seems fine for US listeners, because the > > information is freely published. But the European Chain does not seem to > > want to disclose this information and there is hardly any technical > > information available. > > Can anyone tell me the GRI for the European Chain, or point me to a source > > of this information? > > > > Regards, > > David Atkins > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15586 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 21:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 21:12:25 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DHpuq-0000xy-UD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:12:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DHpuq-0000xv-SZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:12:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHpxg-00044u-Am for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:15:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHpuf-0007i0-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:12:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHpuf-0007hr-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:12:13 +0100 Received: from mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHpuc-0006Dd-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:12:13 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050402211203.UTIC2171.mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:12:03 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.86.183]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050402211202.XBGU4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:12:02 +1200 Message-ID: <000201c537c8$a260ffe0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:12:07 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.58 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Weak signals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi all, It looks like more weak signals in captures viewed this morning. I've sent 30 and 120 second dot length Argo files to Detective Vester for analysis. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 78246 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 21:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 21:53:42 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHqZS-000N29-QB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:54:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHqZS-000N26-NF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:54:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHqcU-00032f-CO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:57:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHqYY-0007oW-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:53:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHqYY-0007oN-Hc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:53:26 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHqYW-0006Kp-L0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:53:26 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050402215316.QSLX23939.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:53:16 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.65.182]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050402215315.THJL16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:53:15 +1200 Message-ID: <000e01c537ce$5d365680$b64136d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> <000201c537c8$a260ffe0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:52:38 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.147 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nil overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Nothing seen from NA or EU overnight. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 87568 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2005 23:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2005 23:01:18 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHrcs-0005lR-Tl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:01:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DHrcs-0005lJ-LM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:01:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DHrcD-000D3y-Ij for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:01:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DHrbm-0007wT-0Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:00:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DHrbl-0007wK-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:00:49 +0100 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DHrbj-0006Si-3J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:00:49 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.80.24dbe7d4 (1320) for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:00:37 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <80.24dbe7d4.2f807e15@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:00:37 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.11 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Weak signals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob, Teo and LF,

tonight's signals sorted by frequency were

18:00...19:52 923.19...922.98 qrss120 "S52AB"
18:02...18:24 922.06/21.96; 18:27...19:15 921.99/.89 dfcw100 DF6"NM" (0.3W EMRP)
17:02...19:21 921.73...921.71 qrss60 YU7"AR"
18:00...20:44 921.58/.51...921.39/.31 dfcw180 G3"AQC"
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testEu0504022100.gif (142kB)

Unfortunately the detective's vision on signal timing was somewhat impaired, due to the fragmentation by his own transmitted dashes. But time and frequency of your trace clearly indicate that you have caught Teo's fifth "AR", which he sent from 18:27 to 18:42.

The signal was visible on both Argo30s (21mHz, 12s) and Argo120s (5mHz, 3s) settings. BTW my own preferred setting usually is "90s slow", as it provides a reasonably long screenfill duration with less "pixel-stretching" at 10 milliHz resolution.

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 02.04.2005 23:12:28 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

It looks like more weak signals in captures viewed this morning. I've sent
30 and 120 second dot length Argo files to Detective Vester for analysis.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 72988 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 08:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 08:34:44 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DI0ZA-000674-7F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:34:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DI0ZA-000671-5X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:34:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DI0cr-0003us-KD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:38:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DI0YX-0001T0-Uq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:34:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DI0YX-0001Sr-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:34:05 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DI0YV-0005Xz-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:34:05 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050403083355.YMMP23759.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:33:55 +1200 Received: from quaycustomer ([222.153.168.166]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050403083354.SAGY8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:33:54 +1200 Message-ID: <003501c53829$4915b0a0$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <80.24dbe7d4.2f807e15@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:43:58 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.144 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak signals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Thanks to Markus for results.

73, Bob ZL2CA

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:00 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Weak signals

Dear Bob, Teo and LF,

tonight's signals sorted by frequency were

18:00...19:52 923.19...922.98 qrss120 "S52AB"
18:02...18:24 922.06/21.96; 18:27...19:15 921.99/.89 dfcw100 DF6"NM" (0.3W EMRP)
17:02...19:21 921.73...921.71 qrss60 YU7"AR"
18:00...20:44 921.58/.51...921.39/.31 dfcw180 G3"AQC"
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testEu0504022100.gif (142kB)

Unfortunately the detective's vision on signal timing was somewhat impaired, due to the fragmentation by his own transmitted dashes. But time and frequency of your trace clearly indicate that you have caught Teo's fifth "AR", which he sent from 18:27 to 18:42.

The signal was visible on both Argo30s (21mHz, 12s) and Argo120s (5mHz, 3s) settings. BTW my own preferred setting usually is "90s slow", as it provides a reasonably long screenfill duration with less "pixel-stretching" at 10 milliHz resolution.

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 02.04.2005 23:12:28 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

It looks like more weak signals in captures viewed this morning. I've sent
30 and 120 second dot length Argo files to Detective Vester for analysis.

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2945 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 11:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 11:23:46 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DI3Cj-00045F-Oo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:23:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DI3Cj-00045C-KL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:23:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DI3Fa-0008WQ-83 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:26:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DI3CC-0001hk-M3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:23:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DI3CC-0001hb-0M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:23:12 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DI3CA-00064I-9I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:23:11 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005040311225001200pc5kue>; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 11:23:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c5383f$a76d9940$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:23:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 2/3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020502060805050005070906" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020502060805050005070906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Only reception was early in the evening - and signal levels were quite good. After that a large wind/rain storm over New England raised noise levels. Fragments of NM as well as an uninvited guest...

Jay, W1VD

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Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.38 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 2/3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070707080209020205050303" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070707080209020205050303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Jay,

this is what it looked like locally - so I all I could possibly claim here are a couple of weak dashes. I had reduced my TX power by 2dB to sleep better - maybe I shouldn't have ;-)

73 and all the best
Markus

In einer eMail vom 03.04.2005 13:23:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Only reception was early in the evening - and signal levels were quite good. After that a large wind/rain storm over New England raised noise levels. Fragments of NM as well as an uninvited guest...

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<000c01c53869$52437000$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <11.42876104.2f815359@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:22:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 2/3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Marcus That 2 dB might have helped - but not for long. Reception went downhill in a hurry as the noise came up and that was it for the night. Will continue monitoring. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17212 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 16:51:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 16:51:02 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DI8K9-0009Ak-Ch for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:51:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DI8K8-0009AS-Lh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:51:44 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DI8NA-0000uH-9h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:54:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DI8JB-0002JS-Lx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:50:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DI8JB-0002JJ-7I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:50:45 +0100 Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.88]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DI8J9-0007Ck-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:50:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 24500 invoked by uid 10); 3 Apr 2005 16:50:36 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 24467-FD122DEE invoked from network) 03 Apr 2005 18:50:36 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.191.200]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 3 Apr 2005 16:50:36 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c5386d$3db83400$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:49:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.30.0.2; VDF: 6.30.0.11; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.58.50.88 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zonnet.nl X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: QRV/Testing NOW in normal CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hello, I will go to my TX-QTH and do some tests with a new coil. I plan to be QRV from around 17.30 to 18.30 UTC today, and I will call CQ in normal CW as well between 136.2 and 136.8kHz Maybe I can work one of you! 73 Dick, PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 52679 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 18:14:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 18:14:16 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DI9ch-000LAJ-Vx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:15:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DI9ch-000LAB-QN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:14:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DI9er-0003Yv-SX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:17:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DI9bT-0002Rw-S1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:13:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DI9bT-0002Rn-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:13:43 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DI9bS-0007RB-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:13:43 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.1e4.3894147d (3842) for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:13:31 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1e4.3894147d.2f818c4b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:13:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.4 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Eu-ZL signals, April 3/4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Antipodes,

Teo has started transmitting at 17:00 on 135921.72, and Laurie is on 922.45/.38 since about 17:51. I joined in on 922.01/921.96, very slow DFCW (300s on /100s off, 0.3 W EMRP). Hope we can slightly brighten up a few noise pixels...

Best wishes
Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5681 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 18:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 18:44:18 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIA54-0008L2-JM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:44:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIA54-0008Kz-Hj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:44:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIA8n-00012d-B4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:48:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIA4p-0002XL-R9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:44:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIA4p-0002XC-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:44:03 +0100 Received: from wnat.pyrotherm.co.yu ([62.108.119.150] helo=ns.pyrotherm.co.yu) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIA4n-0007a5-QK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:44:03 +0100 Received: from yu7ar ([192.168.11.30]) by ns.pyrotherm.co.yu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id j33GQBP17709 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:26:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:44:05 +0200 From: YU7AR X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) Business Organization: pyrotherm X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1865119441.20050403204405@pyrotherm.co.yu> To: "MarkusVester@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <1e4.3894147d.2f818c4b@aol.com> References: <1e4.3894147d.2f818c4b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TTSMilter-Version: 1.4 (c)2002-2003 by Peter Bakota, (bakota[at]tippnet.co.yu) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.108.119.150 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pyrotherm.co.yu X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Eu-ZL signals, April 3/4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi, I go on 120S now GL Teo Hello MarkusVester, Sunday, April 3, 2005, 8:13:31 PM, you wrote: Mac> Hello Antipodes, Mac> Teo has started transmitting at 17:00 on 135921.72, and Mac> Laurie is on 922.45/.38 since about 17:51. I joined in on Mac> 922.01/921.96, very slow DFCW (300s on /100s off, 0.3 W EMRP). Mac> Hope we can slightly brighten up a few noise pixels... Mac> Best wishes Mac> Markus, DF6NM -- Best regards, YU7AR mailto:yu7ar@pyrotherm.co.yu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8929 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 20:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 20:15:03 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIBVb-000EZi-9m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:15:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIBVb-000EZf-7c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:15:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIBUt-0002wm-2f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:15:03 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIBUS-0002hH-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:14:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIBUS-0002h8-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:14:36 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIBUR-0007wv-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:14:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 13396 invoked by uid 10); 3 Apr 2005 20:14:29 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 13361-A32BE0BA invoked from network) 03 Apr 2005 22:14:28 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.191.12]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 3 Apr 2005 20:14:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c53889$b9189c40$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:13:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.30.0.2; VDF: 6.30.0.11; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.58.50.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zonnet.nl X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: 2 new ones........... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hello all, Tonight I tested the new 50>135 Ohm transformer made as Niels, OZ8NJ suggested. It worked perfect! no core heating anymore! Nice antenna current too.......upto 1.5A with almost 600W DC-input. Haven't seen such an high antenna current before. I managed to work 2 new ones: Jim, M0BMU and Edgar DL2HRE. Upto now 5 different stations worked on 136kHz. Thanks again 73 Dick , PA4VHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68465 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2005 20:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 20:25:18 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIBeo-0003HZ-Nz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:25:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIBeo-0003HW-MI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:25:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIBiX-0004Rn-Lm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:29:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIBeb-0002lO-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIBeb-0002lF-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIBeZ-00080H-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:25:05 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050403202456.RDYI23939.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:24:56 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.54]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050403202456.IEWL4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:24:56 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c5388b$301f62a0$364036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> <000201c537c8$a260ffe0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000e01c537ce$5d365680$b64136d2@mcalevey> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:23:59 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.147 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nil overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) No NA or EU sigs seen overnight. 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charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, No NA or EU seen in overnight captures. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 90582 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 09:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 09:14:22 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DINfw-000Cfp-Ki for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:15:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; 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Dear All,

DI2AG ( 440.044KHz ) is again on air since monday morning 9.30Z with 0.5W ERP and QRSS3.

73 Walter DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88836 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 11:37:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 11:37:34 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIPte-000368-MD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIPte-000365-Kc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIPxP-0007w9-J9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:41:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIPtC-0004IL-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIPtB-0004IC-SC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:05 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIPtA-0002Wv-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:05 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005040411365001400dmtm8e>; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:36:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c5390a$bde53ae0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:37:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.59 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 3/4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) TA enthusiasts Good condx and less noise... Started watching at 0030Z (will get an earlier start tonight) and was surprised to see a strong signal already printing out on the screen. Took a while to figure out it was CT1DRP - welcome back Brian! Also some "M" copy of AR. Don't believe I see any copy of NM in "graphical mode"...but I may not have concentrated hard enough ;~) http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/040405A.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/040405B.jpg Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 50627 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 11:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 11:58:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQEv-0004I3-MS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:59:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQEu-0004HU-DT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:59:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIQHr-00043U-9j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:02:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQDu-0004Om-8v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:58:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQDt-0004Od-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:58:29 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIQDs-0002bh-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:58:29 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005040411581701400ae7d0e>; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:58:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c5390d$f0de8480$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c5390a$bde53ae0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:00:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 3/4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Forgot to mention...other than fades, CT1DRP was visible right through 0700Z.

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: Jay Rusgrove

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:37 AM

Subject: LF: TA APR 3/4

TA enthusiasts

Good condx and less noise...

Started watching at 0030Z (will get an earlier start tonight) and was
surprised to see a strong signal already printing out on the screen.
Took a while to figure out it was CT1DRP - welcome back Brian!

Also some "M" copy of AR. Don't believe I see any copy of NM in
"graphical mode"...but I may not have concentrated hard enough ;~)

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/040405A.jpg

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/040405B.jpg

Jay, W1VD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93815 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 12:12:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 12:12:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQSl-0001Wl-Oy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:13:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQSl-0001Wi-ML for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:13:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIQVc-0005TH-2o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:16:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQRX-0004Tq-4w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:12:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQRW-0004Th-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:12:34 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIQRU-0002hn-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:12:34 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-196.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.196]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA09979 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:12:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c5390f$8f46ed50$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c5390a$bde53ae0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:11:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 66.225.112.69 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of smart.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 3/4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050005050806020606020407" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050005050806020606020407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I took a quick look and think this may be CT1DRP copy hr in Maryland last nite.. de Lloyd W3NF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: LF: TA APR 3/4 > TA enthusiasts > > Good condx and less noise... > > Started watching at 0030Z (will get an earlier start tonight) and was > surprised to see a strong signal already printing out on the screen. > Took a while to figure out it was CT1DRP - welcome back Brian! > > Also some "M" copy of AR. 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ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIQYJ-0007iF-6A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:19:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQUQ-0004Xk-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:15:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQUP-0004Xb-P6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:15:33 +0100 Received: from omc3-s32.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.106] helo=OMC3-S32.phx.gbl) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIQUN-0002jC-Hy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:15:33 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.61.41]) by OMC3-S32.phx.gbl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:15:24 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:15:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:15:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2005 12:15:24.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB004A00:01C5390F] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 65.54.249.106 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: WD2XDW off Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit XDw is off - sometime CST overnight the main 2:18T transformer failed, but its still too dark to see that the damage is, but maybe I had too much of a sharp bend on the 2T copper 8mm diam secondary microbore. The primary connection onto the transformers has certainly melted off...love these currents! Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw 137.7752/6 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61241 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 12:34:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 12:34:33 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIQmm-0004tP-Ns for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:34:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIQmm-0004tE-HR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:34:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIQpf-0006F3-Ej for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:37:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQmb-0004eh-2N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:34:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIQma-0004eY-KD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:34:20 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIQmZ-0002ox-7X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:34:20 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005040412341001200pf5tie>; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:34:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c53912$f341d6a0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c5390a$bde53ae0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000801c5390f$8f46ed50$0100a8c0@HOST> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:36:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA APR 3/4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

>I took a quick look and think this may be CT1DRP copy hr in Maryland last
>nite..

With traces of AR above...

Jay

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84602 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 17:36:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 17:36:17 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIVVc-0003kT-UE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:37:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIVVc-0003kP-Of for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:37:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIVUm-000E0R-P7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:36:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIVTe-0005LM-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:35:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIVTe-0005LD-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:35:06 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIVTd-0004Fe-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:35:06 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (this-club24-account-is.disabled.tibus.net [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7ADD35800083 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3103 (wwinf3103 [172.22.158.30]) by mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6F2855800082 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:34:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050404173459455.6F2855800082@mwinf3114.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <12263287.1112636099443.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.25.245] Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:34:59 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re.Reception Request Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Laurence has advised me that Ric VK7RO has got some problems with his LF recieving equipment, and is unlikely to have the problem sorted in the near future. So I will not be transmitting to VK7 for the time being.

73 Laurie.

----- Original Message -----

From: William Oorschot

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:01 PM

Subject: TX cores / current sensors

To the members on the LF group ,

As I am trying to draw the circuit diagram of a recently bought Ropex "The First " transmitter I found the following interesting detail . The output current of the TX is passing 3 paralelled 1 Ohm resistors to the antenna-relay , the voltage developped over this resistance is coupled to the input of a optocoupler IC which is connected to the protection circuit . As optocouplers are normally well insulated at least a few Kv this idea must be suitable for lots of applications .

As a new member of the group I wish to join you and have as much pleasure from it as my radiofriend Dick PA0SE who fixed my attention on your group .

73,William PA0WFO ( hope to work you in the near future )

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81491 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIWtW-000Ejw-TU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:05:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIWtW-000Ejt-Qq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:05:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIWvT-0005Jx-4k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:07:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIWsJ-0005mM-Sg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:04:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIWsJ-0005mD-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:04:39 +0100 Received: from mta1.siol.net ([193.189.160.40]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIWsH-0004bv-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:04:39 +0100 Received: from edge1.siol.net ([10.10.10.210]) by mta1.siol.net with ESMTP id <20050404190428.CUOS19477.mta1.siol.net@edge1.siol.net> for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:04:28 +0200 Received: from y4x1l1 ([213.250.5.68]) by edge1.siol.net with SMTP id <20050404190426.ZQJT13274.edge1.siol.net@y4x1l1> for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: <004b01c53949$1ddac6c0$4405fad5@y4x1l1> From: "Joze Konda" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <11.42876104.2f815359@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:58:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.189.160.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of siol.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 135,922.5...possible... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello LFers...

Possible QRV in the morning on 135.922,5 (cca..HI..)

Call "AB" QRSS120

...possible...

Cheers , 73 , Joze S52AB

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 2/3

Thanks Jay,

this is what it looked like locally - so I all I could possibly claim here are a couple of weak dashes. I had reduced my TX power by 2dB to sleep better - maybe I shouldn't have ;-)

73 and all the best
Markus

In einer eMail vom 03.04.2005 13:23:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Only reception was early in the evening - and signal levels were quite good. After that a large wind/rain storm over New England raised noise levels. Fragments of NM as well as an uninvited guest...

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40432 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 19:30:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 19:30:12 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXHt-000P3G-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXHt-000P3B-16 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIXH2-0001CM-Bp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:30:12 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXGo-0005uG-BI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:29:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXGn-0005u7-VU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:29:57 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIXGm-0004iw-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:29:57 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-9-161.access.as9105.com ([80.43.9.161]:1874 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DIXGg-000EVR-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:29:50 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:29:44 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901c538f6$ac108040$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi Walter,

Comming up out of the noise now 1925z with some fading back to nil signal, just starting to go dark here in NW UK.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Staubach
Sent: 04 April 2005 10:14
To: RSGB LF
Subject: LF: DI2AG

Dear All,

DI2AG ( 440.044KHz ) is again on air since monday morning 9.30Z with 0.5W ERP and QRSS3.

73 Walter DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43069 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 19:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 19:31:12 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXIx-000JIy-K6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:32:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXIx-000JIv-HR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:32:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIXKt-0002BN-ND for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:34:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXHv-0005wT-7x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXHu-0005wJ-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:06 +0100 Received: from fh1023.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.33] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIXHs-0004jq-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:06 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.234.42) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437A00001BCF1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:30:53 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c5394c$dd4aed20$2aeafc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004c01c53946$584136d0$9cac3850@MARLEEN> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:27:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Fw: TX cores / current sensors Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

----- Original Message -----

From: PA0WFO

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:44 PM

Subject: LF: Fw: TX cores / current sensors

----- Original Message -----
From: William Oorschot

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:01 PM

Subject: TX cores / current sensors

To the members on the LF group ,

As I am trying to draw the circuit diagram of a recently bought Ropex "The First " transmitter I found the following interesting detail . The output current of the TX is passing 3 paralelled 1 Ohm resistors to the antenna-relay , the voltage developped over this resistance is coupled to the input of a optocoupler IC which is connected to the protection circuit . As optocouplers are normally well insulated at least a few Kv this idea must be suitable for lots of applications .

As a new member of the group I wish to join you and have as much pleasure from it as my radiofriend Dick PA0SE who fixed my attention on your group .

73,William PA0WFO ( hope to work you in the near future )

A couple of bits of info that I have concerning the above Ropex TX.

The Pa Fets are IRF1010N, the drive is a SG3525 device and the xtal is 6.5536 khz.

If u get the cct sorted out I could do with a copy. I do have a ROPEX although I have never really used it except for testing out hi, but it would be useful as an emergency TX.

One other thing, it will not load into a grounded loading coil on High PWR and to overcome this problem use a LPF and then it works FB.

73 De Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43285 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 19:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 19:31:16 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXIu-000PCO-US for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:32:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXIu-000PCL-SM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:32:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIXI4-0001b4-4S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:31:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXHy-0005ww-G5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIXHy-0005wn-1Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:10 +0100 Received: from fh1023.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.33] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIXHs-0004jr-0a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:31:10 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.234.42) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437A00001BCF21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:30:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c5394c$df841440$2aeafc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c53944$dd1f69f0$e6a4c593@RD40002> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:30:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "james moritz" To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: LF: RE: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND Dear LF Group, Hans-Albrecht makes an interesting point here - certainly, texts on switch-mode power supplies often refer to problems with push-pull converters caused by an imbalance of flux in the core, either due to the core itself, or some asymmetry of the circuit, so it is surprising it does not seem to be an issue with the push-pull class D amplifiers. I think that there is a self-balancing action that results from feeding the DC input through a high-impedance choke - if the core is closer to saturation with the current flowing in one direction in the primary, it will effectively have somewhat lower impedance than when the current is flowing in the other direction. Since the current is nearly fixed over the duration of one cycle, there will be less voltage drop across the winding during the half cycle where the core is closer to saturation and the winding has lower impedance, and so more flux will be generated in the other half cycle, tending to pull the average flux in the core towards zero and restore balance. As an experiment, I applied a DC bias current through a 3mH air cored choke (or loading coil, as some people call it...) into the 50 ohm secondary winding of a class D P-P current switching output stage, and monitored the voltage waveform at the primary centre tap. With zero DC bias, the waveform is approximately a "full-wave rectified sine", but as the DC bias increases, the voltage peaks become asymmetrical, with the peaks of the higher-flux half of the cycle slightly smaller than the lower-flux ones. Once the DC bias is removed, the original waveform is restored. This apparent balancing would seem to be an argument in favour of current-switching rather than voltage-switching in the transformer-coupled push-pull type of circuit. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU Hi Jim. This info is useful to have. I know u have the time and resources for research and I am sure it will be appreciated by all. 73 de Mal/G3KEV -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hans-Albrecht Haffa Sent: 01 April 2005 17:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND Dear Lowfers, any ferrite core should have a gap. This is necessary to reduce the remanent flux from about 180 mT to as low as 30 mT. It may be just the residuous gap of lapped cores, preferrable is to put a layer of capton tape on one outer leg of an EE-Core (EDT59 and the like). Lowering remanent flux will rise flux swing at operation. Apparently it is not a problem at 136kHz, as core saturation is unlikely at this frequency. Saturation will occure at frequencies below 50 kHz during startup of push-pull switching circuits (symmetrical half bridge or full bridge), designed by beginners. A gap as low as 0.05 mm (one layer self adhesive film tape or a bit of varnish) will hardly lower permeability, so from urel=2700 down to urel=1500. If You can, use this effect. A toroid core is often second choice in power electronics. Two paralleled ETD cores have greater surface than two stacked toroids. With the ETDs copper volume is doubled too. not so with the stacked toroids. So if You can buy ETD cores , do it. They are available at Conrad.com or conrad.de. 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht (HTML) wurde als Anlage beigefügt.----- Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 01.04.05 11:11:24 An: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" Betreff: Re: LF: RE: TX Cores __________________________________________________________ Mit WEB.DE FreePhone mit hoechster Qualitaet ab 0 Ct./Min. weltweit telefonieren! http://freephone.web.de/?mc=021201 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 19:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 19:32:31 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXKE-000JW1-L3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:33:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIXKE-000JVw-AY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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Joze

I'll be on the lookout for your signal.

At the moment, lightningstorm.com https://thunderstorm.vaisala.com/tux/jsp/explorer/explorer.jsp is not showing any activity over the US so perhaps tonight will be quiet.

Jay, W1VD

----- Original Message -----

From: Joze Konda

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:58 PM

Subject: LF: 135,922.5...possible...

Hello LFers...

Possible QRV in the morning on 135.922,5 (cca..HI..)

Call "AB" QRSS120

...possible...

Cheers , 73 , Joze S52AB

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 2/3

Thanks Jay,

this is what it looked like locally - so I all I could possibly claim here are a couple of weak dashes. I had reduced my TX power by 2dB to sleep better - maybe I shouldn't have ;-)

73 and all the best
Markus

In einer eMail vom 03.04.2005 13:23:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Only reception was early in the evening - and signal levels were quite good. After that a large wind/rain storm over New England raised noise levels. Fragments of NM as well as an uninvited guest...

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54196 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 20:21:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 20:21:45 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIY4v-0006FU-QQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:21:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIY4v-0006FR-O2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:21:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIY7p-0006xI-9y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:24:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIY4i-0006PW-Dl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:21:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIY4i-0006PN-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:21:32 +0100 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIY4g-0005Al-3i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:21:31 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050404202122.TTAO2892.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:21:22 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.196.38]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050404202121.REWF16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:21:21 +1200 Message-ID: <000201c53953$dad9e8f0$26c436d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> <000201c537c8$a260ffe0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000e01c537ce$5d365680$b64136d2@mcalevey> <000001c5388b$301f62a0$364036d2@mcalevey> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:20:28 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.159 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nil overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) No LF signals seen overnight. It was nice to meet Peter G3LDO on 80m last night. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47935 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 20:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 20:51:01 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIYY5-000DCo-W3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:51:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIYY5-000DCl-TY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:51:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIYb0-0003H3-KS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:54:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIYWo-0006cO-Jw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:50:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIYWo-0006cF-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:50:34 +0100 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIYWm-0005et-CC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:50:34 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.149.42aa14d0 (1320) for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <149.42aa14d0.2f83028b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:50:19 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.207 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Eu beacon frequencies Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020103060804050506070303" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020103060804050506070303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Group,

this evening our frequency allocation near 135.922 kHz did not work out too well: CT1DRP came very close to RA3YO, and G3AQC ran into both of them later. It looks like Europe has grown so wide that we can't all see one another ;-)

As I am sitting pretty much in the middle here, my screen grabber could be used to assist frequency selection. To save the data bandwidth of loading all three images, the Eu window can be accessed directly as http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testEu.gif (typically about 140kB, every 20 minutes).

To avoid crowding around 921.5, it might also be helpful if we knew the ZL receive window limits beforehand. I have received an Argo120 from Bob ranging 920.7...922.32, and Mike used to watch 920.4 ... 922.02. My suggestion would be to settle on something like 921 to 922.6 as a common receive range for high-resolution work.

73 and best of luck to all
Markus, DF6NM
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tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Ive taken one of the stacked toroids off which was thermally damaged (they get very brittle), now left with two. Ive replaced the primary (18 turns #12 insulated )and secondary windings and back on at 49.5A loop current at 0220z Tuesday. Taking temperatures with the thermal "imager" to check for further hotspots..... Ive learnt that microbore isnt too good in my application. Ive replaced the 2 turns secondary in series with C and the loop with #4 insulated cable and seen a slight an increase of 3 amps in the loop current. The wind is blowing a bit and storms are forecasted tomorrow. Laurence KL1x/5 wd2xdw 137,7753/6 dfcw 90 and cw.... http://myweb.cableone.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2184 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 08:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 08:01:27 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIj14-000NSy-OG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:02:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIj14-000NSm-5W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:02:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DIj06-00081b-GA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:01:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIizU-0000O1-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:00:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIizT-0000Ns-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:00:51 +0100 Received: from gambit.vianw.pt ([195.22.31.34]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIizS-000179-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:00:51 +0100 Received: from slave_13.esoterica.pt ([80.172.153.68]) by gambit.vianw.pt (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j359k7lx027823 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:46:09 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20050405075654.019dd3f0@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: nx4ywv@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:00:41 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <149.42aa14d0.2f83028b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/804/Mon Apr 4 15:38:58 2005 on gambit.vianw.pt X-Virus-Status: Clean X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 195.22.31.34 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of esoterica.pt X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Eu beacon frequencies Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit My profuse apologies. 73, Brian CT1DRP

At 20:50 04/04/2005, you wrote:

Dear Group,

this evening our frequency allocation near 135.922 kHz did not work out too well: CT1DRP came very close to RA3YO, and G3AQC ran into both of them later. It looks like Europe has grown so wide that we can't all see one another ;-)

As I am sitting pretty much in the middle here, my screen grabber could be used to assist frequency selection. To save the data bandwidth of loading all three images, the Eu window can be accessed directly as http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testEu.gif (typically about 140kB, every 20 minutes).

To avoid crowding around 921.5, it might also be helpful if we knew the ZL receive window limits beforehand. I have received an Argo120 from Bob ranging 920.7...922.32, and Mike used to watch 920.4 ... 922.02. My suggestion would be to settle on something like 921 to 922.6 as a common receive range for high-resolution work.

73 and best of luck to all
Markus, DF6NM

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6379 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 08:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 08:35:18 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIjWo-0002kZ-1j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:35:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIjWo-0002kW-08 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:35:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIjWn-000HA6-Ss for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:35:17 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIjWT-0000Y6-4H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:34:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIjWS-0000Xx-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:34:56 +0100 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIjWP-0001EB-B4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:34:56 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id l.1e8.388a9ef0 (1320) for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 04:34:41 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.388a9ef0.2f83a7a1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 04:34:41 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.37 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Eu beacon frequencies Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Brian and LF Group,

in no way did I intend to accuse anyone on either side of the world. And your spacing to YO was about 0.05 Hz, which wouldn't have caused a problem anyway.

In any case there was no harm done, due to lack of propagation miracles ;-)

Best 73
Markus

In einer eMail vom 05.04.2005 10:01:45 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt brian@esoterica.pt:

My profuse apologies. 73, Brian CT1DRP
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DCF39 (Burg, 138.83) and DCF49 (Mainflingen, 128.93) are both off air since about 6:00 UT.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
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Hi All,

Sorry if I clashed last night.

I will slide down a bit to about 135.921.2/3 and hope that clears everyone else.

73 Laurie.

Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14232 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 10:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 10:24:37 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIlFX-000CTT-JE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:25:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIlFX-000CTP-G0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:25:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIlIP-0007Kq-65 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:28:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlEP-0000wD-7N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:24:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlEO-0000w4-Rz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:24:24 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIlEN-0001p7-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:24:24 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005040510241301300dkumoe>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:24:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 06:25:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 4/5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070205030602010602070405" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070205030602010602070405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Poor conditions, but low noise, did not yield much other than a few sightings of DRP.

Jay, W1VD
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ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIleu-000OUh-7o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:51:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIleg-00015L-U8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:51:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIleg-00015C-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:51:34 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIlee-0001xy-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:51:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 19344 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 10:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2005 10:51:29 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c539c5$1777e0c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:51:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 4/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >Poor conditions, but low noise, did not yield much other than a few sightings of DRP.< Similar copy of DRP here. Nothing else seen. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21616 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 10:52:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 10:52:57 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIlg1-0007gX-4w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIlg1-0007gU-3I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIliv-0000p5-U9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:55:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlfw-000180-HJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlfw-00017o-6E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:52 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIlfs-0001zZ-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:52 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-232.fen-net.de [212.204.117.112]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j35ApaSv015301 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:51:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <005801c539cd$b3f23100$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:53:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id j35ApaSv015301 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Dear Ko, thanks for the report. Was DI2AG audible or visible? It was rather early in the evening. 73 Walter -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ko Versteeg An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Montag, 4. April 2005 20:32 Betreff: Re: LF: DI2AG >Walter Staubach wrote: >> Dear All, >> DI2AG ( 440.044KHz ) is again on air since monday morning 9.30Z with >> 0.5W ERP and QRSS3. >> 73 Walter DJ2LF >> > >Good copy into JO22KE at 18:15 >73 Ko, NL9222 > >-- >Reclaim Your Inbox! >http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88543 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 10:54:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 10:54:17 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIliM-000CRv-Lx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:55:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIliM-000CRs-JX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:55:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIll6-0007IQ-Cm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:58:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlh1-0001CE-DN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:53:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIlh1-0001C5-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:53:59 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIlh0-00020U-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:53:58 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-232.fen-net.de [212.204.117.112]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j35AqkAU015516 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:52:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <006801c539cd$ddeb6e40$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:54:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thanks, Gary, for the report rather early in the evening.

73    Walter

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Montag, 4. April 2005 21:29
Betreff: LF: RE: DI2AG

Hi Walter,

Comming up out of the noise now 1925z with some fading back to nil signal, just starting to go dark here in NW UK.

Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp

Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Walter Staubach
Sent: 04 April 2005 10:14
To: RSGB LF
Subject: LF: DI2AG

Dear All,

   DI2AG ( 440.044KHz ) is again on air since monday morning 9.30Z with 0.5W ERP and QRSS3.

73   Walter   DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 42325 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 12:14:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 12:14:42 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DImx8-0000OK-LV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:14:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DImx8-0000OH-IE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:14:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIn0w-0002s3-DU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:18:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DImwa-0001Pu-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:14:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DImwa-0001Pl-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:14:08 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DImwY-0002OF-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:14:08 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050405121346113003bc1te>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:13:55 +0000 Message-ID: <425280F4.1090206@att.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:13:40 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.131.117 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of att.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 4/5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040709080407030006080800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040709080407030006080800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a first for me. 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Dex

Looks like you had significantly less fading than at this location.

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:13 AM

Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 4/5

This is a first for me. April TA in NC! Not good copy buy consistent
sighting of DRP from 2345 to 0400 with another similar peak between 0530
to 0700.

Dex

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13964 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 13:16:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 13:16:32 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DInw2-000N1I-UJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DInw1-000N1A-Om for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:17:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DInyl-0003HS-3N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:20:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DInuP-0001bq-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:15:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DInuO-0001bh-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:15:56 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DInuN-0002gj-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:15:56 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (166-82-181-2.stanlynet.org[166.82.181.2]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050405131547113003bt4pe>; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:15:47 +0000 Message-ID: <42528F80.2050501@att.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:15:44 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <425280F4.1090206@att.net> <001601c539de$152e3580$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <001601c539de$152e3580$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.131.117 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of att.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 4/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Jay Rusgrove wrote: > Dex > > Looks like you had significantly less fading than at this location. Brian's signal received here seems to always have less QSB than those originating from higher latitudes. A few years back I had Q5 copy of his signal during the whole common nighttime period several times. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10217 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 13:50:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 13:50:11 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIoRW-00066C-PF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:50:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIoRW-000669-NT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:50:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIoVK-00017G-QA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:54:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIoQn-0001iU-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIoQn-0001iL-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:25 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.203]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIoQl-0002qO-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:25 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.70.45 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 13:49:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c539e6$429a58c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:49:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.203 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: W&G SPM-12 and PS-12 for disposal. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi all I have been advised by a friend that he has the above to dispose of. I do not want to be involved so if you are interested I suggest you contact him directly. He does not want to be involved with the hastle of eBay again. simon@icemans.co.uk As far as I am aware the SPM-12 ( a 200Hz to 6MHz Selective Level Measuring set ) has the synchroniser digital frequency display and the 25Hz filter options fitted. The PS-12 ( a matching generator with -60 to +10dBm output ) will track the SPM frequency with the addition of just a BNC coax patch lead between the units, and then acquires the staility of the SPM.....good enough for 30sec QRSS all night long, though not quite as good as an oven derived reference. When used as a receiver it should be remembered that the SPM has no pre-selection so may be more prone to IMD than a modern purpose-built receiver. Nevertheless they work very well. This unit does not have the demodulater option fitted, but that can be overcome by using Alberto's SDRadio software directly on the ID (10kHz) output. I think he has an operating manual on CD and I have a manual, and circuit diagrams fo my own units Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14853 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 15:05:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 15:05:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIpdm-0001g8-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:06:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIpdm-0001g5-Ms for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:06:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIpco-000KWg-Tz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:05:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIpbp-0001rJ-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:04:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIpbp-0001rA-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:04:53 +0100 Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.21]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIpbm-0003Bk-1J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:04:53 +0100 Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DIpbi-0005ES-07; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:46 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ECl5vcZLgeLWM+-xuQ-wMRAPjJqjPoyYHu5P7-576CvxwonxQjXLU6@[84.133.110.121]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DIpbg-1ExDai0; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:04:44 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:04:40 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <20336183.20050405170440@t-online.de> To: Jay Rusgrove In-Reply-To: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ECl5vcZLgeLWM+-xuQ-wMRAPjJqjPoyYHu5P7-576CvxwonxQjXLU6 X-TOI-MSGID: 7f43c84a-7b33-4ce9-8eeb-1321d138db07 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.21 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 4/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) In the opposite direction I had a brief copy of Warren, WD2XGJ around 0200z and copied Joe, VO1NA "O" 2300-0100/0400-0500z. VO1NA was present the whole night but with a lot of rapid fadings. Nothing else copied. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de > Poor conditions, but low noise, did not yield much other than a few sightings of DRP. > Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 133 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 19:34:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 19:34:30 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DItpj-0005hy-Fz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:35:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DItpj-0005hv-Dw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:35:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DItsY-0001Dv-Sg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:38:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DItnG-0002FE-Dq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:32:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DItnF-0002F5-NF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:32:57 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DItnD-0004q8-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:32:57 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate05.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j35JWR8i012162 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:32:49 +0200 Received: from [217.248.187.193] by freemailng1802.web.de with HTTP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:32:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:32:43 +0200 Message-Id: <328779818@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.72.192.243 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of web.de X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY=0.151,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML=0.205 Subject: LF: Re: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND, to G3KEV Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090103030903070806080100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090103030903070806080100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Mal, dear Group, transformers for flyback converters need a gap, transformers for forward converters do not have an gap. The gap of an flyback-transformer is about 1% of the magnetic path length, depending of the energy one wants to store in the primary switching impulse. In the case of Power-amplifiers no gap is needed, exept an residuos gap. The number of turns for the primary winding depends on how one splits up copper volume and iron-volume. This refers to all electrical machines. So less core area - more turns at the same poer level. For 136 kHz I recommend an magnetic induction of about 0.05...0.1 Tesla for square wave operation. Temperature rise is ok, if at room temperature (25°C) it is just possible to touch the warm core, i.e. temperature rise of 40K is a good approach for temperatures in the cabinet of about 55°C at room temperatures of 40°C (dx-expedition...). Of course all depends on the insulation materials, classes B, F, H (130°C, 155°C, 180°C). There is no general rule in power electronics for the calculus of the number of turns of a transformer. Every design engineer has its own rules, he needs the experience proofed by the experiment, depending of copper, insulation material, core geometry. Tables in SMPS-books just give hints. For instance according to these tables the current density may vary from 12 A/mm2 (EF16) to 1,8A/mm2 at EE55 core. Choosing extremely flat cores needs new winding tests to find out magnetization and current densities at given frequencies. As far as we use magnetic materials with relative permeability figure of urel =500...3000 any material will do the job. Using VLF material with permeability of urel =6000....10 000 we should reduce manetization, as edding current losses in the core may rise. The current fed PP-PA with the dc-Choke. In switch mode power supplies this construction is used with free running power-oscillators, built with bipolar power transistors. Due to the storage time of the bipolars (0.5 us...3 us) an overlap time where both transistors are conducting , occurs. The inductivity limits the current rise, acting like a constant current source. So the value of inductivity is not much important, as long the bobbin acts as an current source. But this means that the oscillator with the bipolar transistors MUST act as a sink for the constant current. Therefore always one of the transistors must be ON, or both must be ON, otherwise the voltage at the center tap of the transformer will rise. In a current fed power converter even the two transistors neednt be driven in push-pull mode, if both are ON at the same time, it will rise current in the choke, but this higher current must then be transferred to the secondary in the next swiching pulses... Try to get information about SMPS basics by Unitrode Integrated Circuits Company, now under Texas Instruments. So much at this evening. More details upon request (Book 2004 cba ok). 55, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht (HTML) wurde als Anlage beigefügt.----- Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 02.04.05 21:21:17 An: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" Betreff: Re: LF: Re: RE: TX Cores, Gap from DK 8 ND __________________________________________________________ Mit WEB.DE FreePhone mit hoechster Qualitaet ab 0 Ct./Min. weltweit telefonieren! http://freephone.web.de/?mc=021201 --------------090103030903070806080100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Original_Mail.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Original_Mail.html" PEhUTUw+DQo8SEVBRD4NCjxUSVRMRT5yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnIHNj aHJpZWIgYW0gMDIuMDQuMDUgMjE6MjE6MTc8L1RJVExFPg0KPE1FVEEgSFRUUC1FUVVJVj0i Q29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBDT05URU5UPSJ0ZXh0L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg4NTktMSI+ DQo8L0hFQUQ+DQo8Qk9EWT4NCi0tLS0tVXJzcHImdXVtbDtuZ2xpY2hlIE5hY2hyaWNodCB3 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format. --------------070301090905090300050304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hartmut, the plot I have for CFH last night is very interesting. I think the shock front from the coronal hole arrived about midnight or slightly later. CFH went off air for a period around 2400z be when it can back received levels were subject to a lot of very rapid "flutter fading" like you report on Joe. I think this may be due to the shock front exciting waves in the ionoshereic layers which "resonate" with many different "modes". This is the first event where I have a signal log of the effect taking place. The shorter period oscillations seem to die out first, which has the effect of showing a steadily lengthening fading period as the days pass after a collision. This idea is pure surmise and may be totally wrong, but after this event I must say it looks convincing. Plot attached above Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "Jay Rusgrove" Sent: 05 April 2005 16:04 Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 4/5 > In the opposite direction I had a brief copy of Warren, WD2XGJ around > 0200z and copied Joe, VO1NA "O" 2300-0100/0400-0500z. 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relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1DJ8mh-0001Kp-DOfor rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:33:25 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19])by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTPid <2005040611331201400q20vme>; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: "Brian Rogerson" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:33:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020302030108040908060704" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-Virus-Scanned: By PlusNet VirusCORE (v3.01b) X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020302030108040908060704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
TA enthusiasts

Only signal visible last night was DRP...don't think anyone else was transmitting.

Traces of DRP visible starting 2300Z through fadeout at 0730Z. Best capture of the session below.

Jay, W1VD

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<2005040612194111200m9daoe>; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:19:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4253D3D3.6030909@att.net> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:19:31 +0000 From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.131.116 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of att.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-Virus-Scanned: By PlusNet VirusCORE (v3.01b) X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Jay Rusgrove wrote: > TA enthusiasts > > Only signal visible last night was DRP...don't think anyone else was > transmitting. Brian's signal started showing here just before sunset but didn't last long. QRN from the west took control even covering my strong loran lines the rest of the night. Dex -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23100 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 15:01:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 15:01:10 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJC1m-0007bO-Fe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:01:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJC1m-0007bL-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:01:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJC1m-000B5h-Ba for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:01:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJC1D-0003m9-4s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:00:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJC1C-0003m0-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:00:34 +0100 Received: from sterling.noc-servers.net ([69.93.216.2]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJC1A-0002Ew-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:00:34 +0100 Received: from [192.55.122.100] (helo=w2ksn) by sterling.noc-servers.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DJC18-0007EU-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: <005401c53ab9$8a04ac50$1101a8c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:01:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) > TA enthusiasts > Only signal visible last night was DRP...don't think anyone else was transmitting. > Traces of DRP visible starting 2300Z through fadeout at 0730Z. Best capture of > the session below. > Jay, W1VD Wow, that capture looks strong and clean enough, so that DRP could have sent more than 25 characters of Jason with perfect copy. --Stewart From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 74617 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 15:08:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 15:08:34 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJC8v-000134-Ub for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:08:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJC8v-000130-RO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:08:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJC8v-000DeG-Pp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:08:33 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJC8h-0003qU-DL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:08:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJC8h-0003qL-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:08:19 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJC8f-0002Iw-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:08:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 7048 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 15:08:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2005 15:08:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c53abb$c4fedea0$5301a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <005401c53ab9$8a04ac50$1101a8c0@w2ksn> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:17:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) > Wow, that capture looks strong and clean enough, so that DRP could have sent > more than 25 characters of Jason with perfect copy. Or turned the PA off and sent WOLF.... JA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77326 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 15:23:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 15:23:13 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJCOM-000MBl-T4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:24:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJCOM-000MBh-KX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:24:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJCQ4-0003cF-FW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:26:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJCMj-0003vF-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJCMj-0003v6-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from bay102-f38.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.48] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJCMh-0002Mh-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:22:40 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:22:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:22:39 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2005 15:22:40.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[789831F0:01C53ABC] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.48 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: XDW off Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Even though my web site says the beacon is on, its off as we are experiencing nasty storms. My cable and FTP process is out so guess yesterdays storms did some damage down the line. Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17471 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 17:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 17:08:22 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJE28-000KuO-9M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:09:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJE27-000KuD-Ph for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:09:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJE0r-0001C7-Gp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:08:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJE0K-00046a-Ap for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:07:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJE0J-00046R-Un for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:07:47 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJE0I-0002ri-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:07:47 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050406170730014005alb5e>; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:07:41 +0000 Message-ID: <005d01c53acb$78590840$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <005401c53ab9$8a04ac50$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <000601c53abb$c4fedea0$5301a8c0@JKA> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:09:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Speaking of wolf...Stewart...

Has anyone volunteered to build a more user friendly interface? We've proven again this season that wolf wins "hands down" under seemingly impossible high noise conditions.

Wish I could help but lack the required programming skills...would be more than happy to help wring out the beta version, though.

Jay, W1VD

----- Original Message -----

From: John Andrews

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:17 AM

Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA APR 5/6

> Wow, that capture looks strong and clean enough, so that DRP could have
sent
> more than 25 characters of Jason with perfect copy.

Or turned the PA off and sent WOLF....

JA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29722 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 18:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 18:25:58 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJFDy-00077Y-9p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:25:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJFDy-00077V-8D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:25:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJFHp-0006A0-TJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:29:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJFDM-0004Ek-IN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:25:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJFDM-0004Eb-69 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:25:20 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJFDK-0003Ln-Pq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:25:20 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DJFD7-0006kd-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:25:05 +0200 Received: from pd902e66a.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.230.106] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #27) id 1DJFD7-0007vt-Ea for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:25:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4254296F.40804@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:24:47 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c53a9c$834259c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <005401c53ab9$8a04ac50$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <000601c53abb$c4fedea0$5301a8c0@JKA> <005d01c53acb$78590840$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> In-Reply-To: <005d01c53acb$78590840$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.155 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA APR 5/6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Greetings all, If no one else already started the job, I may have some more time in a couple of weeks - but no idea what would be required by Stewart's implementation, and how difficult it would be to separate encoder / decoder / soundcard handling and continuous real-time processing, and, of course the yet-to-be-written user interface. If I understood correctly, Stewart's sourcecodes are public domain but I didn't find them on the net so far. Regards, WoLF DL4YHF . Jay Rusgrove schrieb: > Speaking of wolf...Stewart... > > Has anyone volunteered to build a more user friendly interface? We've > proven again this season that wolf wins "hands down" under seemingly > impossible high noise conditions. > > Wish I could help but lack the required programming skills...would be > more than happy to help wring out the beta version, though. > > Jay, W1VD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John Andrews > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:17 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Re: TA APR 5/6 > > > Wow, that capture looks strong and clean enough, so that DRP > could have > sent > > more than 25 characters of Jason with perfect copy. > > Or turned the PA off and sent WOLF.... > > JA > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 393 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 19:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 19:57:38 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJGfx-0005E4-CT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:58:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJGfx-0005E1-9q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:58:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJGef-00087Y-UN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:57:37 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJGdn-0004Nr-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:56:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJGdm-0004Ni-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:56:42 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJGdk-0004K2-P0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:56:42 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050406195631.JLQX11967.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:56:31 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.197.68]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050406195630.KCBO8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:56:30 +1200 Message-ID: <000901c53ae2$ba0002f0$44c536d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20336183.20050405170440@t-online.de> <000001c53a20$cdd3c720$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:53:43 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.187 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Eu sigs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Unfortunately I have a new QRM source which appears in the early hours of the morning near 135.9215.kHz. However there are several other interesting looking traces in the overnight captures which have gone to Markus for analysis. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86555 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 20:41:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 20:41:26 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJHMC-000KKJ-CH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:42:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJHMC-000KKG-A9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:42:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJHO1-0000Vj-FR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:44:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJHKl-0004UA-4L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:41:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJHKk-0004U1-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:41:06 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJHKi-0004VU-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:41:06 +0100 Received: from pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050406204057.KRRD11967.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:40:57 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([222.153.168.166]) by pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050406204057.RKRN7985.pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:40:57 +1200 Message-ID: <001101c53ae8$f0961b00$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001501c539c5$1777e0c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:40:56 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.187 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Two sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, One good signal and another reasonable in the noise this morning. Possibly another. Pics sent to Markus. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93745 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 22:19:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 22:19:36 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJIs4-00052Q-JD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:19:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJIs4-00052N-Hc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:19:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJIv2-0005jp-Cr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:22:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJIrY-0004d6-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:19:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJIrY-0004cx-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:19:04 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJIrW-0004tY-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:19:04 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.9f.5c6946fc (4328) for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.5c6946fc.2f85ba4e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:18:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.36 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Two sigs, Eu sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Mike and Bob,

this is what I could make out:

- Mike has seen a dash from AR between 18:57 and 19:25 and perhaps a bit of YO at 18:32.

- Bob has received "R AR" from 18:18 to 19:05 and a full "Y" from 18:22 to 18:41, including some of the dots for the first time.

- I looked carefully for traces of AQC and DRP, but couldn't idenify anything useful yet.

Your original images and my grabber overlays are all in
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_6Apr2005.zip (550kB)

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40928 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 22:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 22:55:38 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJJQw-0002f3-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:55:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJJQw-0002f0-7Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:55:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJJQw-000M2C-4b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:55:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJJQa-0004j5-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:55:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJJQZ-0004iw-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:55:15 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJJQX-00050g-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:55:15 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050406225459.KYUQ28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:54:59 +1200 Received: from quaycustomer ([222.153.168.166]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050406225458.XLBE4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:54:58 +1200 Message-ID: <00ed01c53afd$1802c9e0$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <9f.5c6946fc.2f85ba4e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:05:08 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Two sigs, Eu sigs? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Markus DF6NM,

Many thanks for doing the analysis.

73, Bob ZL2CA

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Two sigs, Eu sigs?

Dear Mike and Bob,

this is what I could make out:

- Mike has seen a dash from AR between 18:57 and 19:25 and perhaps a bit of YO at 18:32.

- Bob has received "R AR" from 18:18 to 19:05 and a full "Y" from 18:22 to 18:41, including some of the dots for the first time.

- I looked carefully for traces of AQC and DRP, but couldn't idenify anything useful yet.

Your original images and my grabber overlays are all in
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-ZL_6Apr2005.zip (550kB)

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13167 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 01:54:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 01:54:29 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJMFL-000PYi-6d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:55:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJMFL-000PYf-42 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:55:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJMGz-000162-E1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:57:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJMDH-0004x3-4s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:53:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJMDG-0004wt-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:53:42 +0100 Received: from bay102-f7.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.17] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJMDF-0005Tu-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:53:42 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:53:34 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.209 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:53:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.209] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:53:34 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2005 01:53:34.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B9F4BE0:01C53B14] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.17 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: FW: Re: LF reception request. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit >From Ric Vk7RO.... >To: "Laurence KL1X" >Subject: Re: LF reception request. >Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:54:08 +1000 > >A summary. > >I saw nothing from North America on any night. > >I tried to look at DCF39 on three nights. The first night I looked at the >wrong frequency and on the other two my computer locked up early in the >capture. > >I'm now off to Melbourne and Sydney for a month. I may have a look next >equinox. > > >73, Ric, VK7RO > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16432 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 10:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 10:07:48 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJTvQ-0003tb-2O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:07:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJTvP-0003tY-VS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:07:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJTyO-0002iy-OU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:10:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJTuq-0005Wu-6o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:07:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJTup-0005Wl-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:07:11 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJTun-0007IF-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:07:11 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050407100659.NEPP23759.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:06:59 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.136]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050407100658.BOMD16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:06:58 +1200 Message-ID: <000a01c53b59$898378b0$fd1558db@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20336183.20050405170440@t-online.de> <000001c53a20$cdd3c720$6507a8c0@Main> <000901c53ae2$ba0002f0$44c536d2@mcalevey> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:06:19 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.144 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: eclipse and Eu sigs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) On Saturday morning ZL time the partial solar eclipse occurs at our sunrise, effectively extending our common period of darkness with Europe. The ZL listeners would request that EU stations transmitting on your Friday evening continue for an hour longer than usual to take advantage of any enhanced propagation due to the eclipse. Thank you. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34429 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 10:23:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 10:23:26 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJUAX-0001At-Sw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:23:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJUAX-0001Aq-Qq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:23:25 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJUAX-000Li4-E1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:23:25 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJU9x-0005bP-H5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJU9w-0005bG-Qw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:22:48 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJU9u-0007NO-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:22:48 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005040710224001400lpb00e>; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:22:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c53b5b$cba24800$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:23:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 6/7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020200060507080507040305" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020200060507080507040305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
TA enthusiasts

Higher static levels last night affecting copy. Only signal visible was DRP for an abbreviated period ( 0115 - 0600Z) as compared to the past couple nights. M to O copy when not in a fade. Best Argocap of the night:

Jay, W1VD
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Thread-Index: AcU55ozmzr+VA5ZlSmiJUJjFEDhQbgBhr7yA From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2005 12:36:24.0767 (UTC) FILETIME=[69385CF0:01C53B6E] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.212.240.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of telenor.com X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Re: W&G SPM-12 and PS-12 for disposal (dynamic range ?). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Alan, selective level meters usually operates with 60-70dB difference between the strongest and weakest signals, and I've never found any problems with them at work when this is bore in mind. But of course, it is not the situation for amateur radio operation, and of course they have no agc, and no pre-selector. Just wonder if you've seen any paper about dynamic range for such instruments? The other problem is that the pitch for cw signals might be 1800Hz and some modification might be important because you uusually need a 700Hz tone for manual reception of cw signal. How to modify the D2006 is shown on my site, and some other modifcations has been discussed earlier on the reflector 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: Alan Melia Sent: 5. april 2005 15:49 Hi all I have been advised by a friend that he has the above to dispose of. I do not want to be involved so if you are interested I suggest you contact him directly. He does not want to be involved with the hastle of eBay again. simon@icemans.co.uk As far as I am aware the SPM-12 ( a 200Hz to 6MHz Selective Level Measuring set ) has the synchroniser digital frequency display and the 25Hz filter options fitted. The PS-12 ( a matching generator with -60 to +10dBm output ) will track the SPM frequency with the addition of just a BNC coax patch lead between the units, and then acquires the staility of the SPM.....good enough for 30sec QRSS all night long, though not quite as good as an oven derived reference. When used as a receiver it should be remembered that the SPM has no pre-selection so may be more prone to IMD than a modern purpose-built receiver. Nevertheless they work very well. This unit does not have the demodulater option fitted, but that can be overcome by using Alberto's SDRadio software directly on the ID (10kHz) output. I think he has an operating manual on CD and I have a manual, and circuit diagrams fo my own units Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 59620 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 20:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 20:11:01 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJdLB-0001UM-9e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:11:01 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJdLB-0001UJ-7w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:11:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJdOA-0002PF-VV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:14:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJdK9-0006Hy-5Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:09:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJdK8-0006Hp-GO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:09:56 +0100 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.146]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJdK6-0002Fk-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:09:56 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050407200940.GJQH21916.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:09:40 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.37.179]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050407200939.SMPY22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:09:39 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c53bad$baa7d770$b32537d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20336183.20050405170440@t-online.de> <000001c53a20$cdd3c720$6507a8c0@Main> <000901c53ae2$ba0002f0$44c536d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:08:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.146 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: overnight sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Good copy from XDW last night but nothing from Eu. My QRM disappeared when I turned off the noise blanker in the IC-R75. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17517 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 20:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 20:16:58 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJdSN-000JOB-DZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:18:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJdSN-000JO8-9r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:18:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJdQv-000DiZ-U0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:16:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJdQl-0006MK-S8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:16:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJdQl-0006MB-H7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:16:47 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJdQj-0002Ij-K3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:16:47 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050407201638.PPNU28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:16:38 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([222.153.168.166]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050407201638.HOHR4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:16:38 +1200 Message-ID: <000401c53bae$b5e61430$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <20336183.20050405170440@t-online.de> <000001c53a20$cdd3c720$6507a8c0@Main> <000901c53ae2$ba0002f0$44c536d2@mcalevey> <000001c53bad$baa7d770$b32537d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:16:39 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Another weak sig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, Another weak signal here this morning, close to 135.922 kHz. Argo pic sent to Markus for analysis. Nothing received from North America (I have a substantial land foreground to NA compared to Mike ZL4OL, but I am nearer the sea for directions towards EU). 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60458 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 21:22:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 21:22:14 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJeTN-000OBS-M5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:23:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJeTN-000OBM-Gd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:23:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJeV5-0005Dx-PS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:25:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJeRf-0006U4-CK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:21:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJeRe-0006Tv-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:21:46 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeRd-0002ay-En for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:21:46 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (fake.juicyvision.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D5B244800084 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:21:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3101 (wwinf3101 [172.22.158.28]) by mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C8E0D4800083 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:21:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050407212139822.C8E0D4800083@mwinf3107.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <19112470.1112908899811.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.25.107] Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:21:39 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re.LF:eclipse & EU sigs. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Mike and Bob,

Sounds like a good opportunity to "steal" a little extra darkness, so I will definately be on and will continue until about 21:00 utc. Freq. as usual 135.921.3/4 DFCW 180 sec elements.

73 Laurie.

Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89122 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 22:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 22:06:27 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJfAA-0004PA-PP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:07:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJfAA-0004P6-MF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:07:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJf8s-000HHs-Ox for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:06:26 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJf8c-0006bN-3B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:06:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJf8b-0006bE-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:06:09 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJf8Z-0002oZ-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:06:09 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1ad.35351d0a (3972) for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:05:58 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1ad.35351d0a.2f8708c6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:05:58 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.8 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Another weak sig Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob and Teo,

you did it again:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_7Apr05_overlay.gif (74kB, 30s/10.5mHz).

Bob received the first "AR" at 16:50...17:13, and then 18:12...18:22, near the end of the capture. Apparently the path was already open when Teo started transmitting.

In the overlayed image I can vaguely see a few brighter noise pixels during Laurie's "Q" at 19:04...19:11, which would have been inconspicuous in the Argo capture alone.

And good luck for tomorrow's eclipse experiment - see also DF3LP's 75-kHz observation on 11 Aug 1999: http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/eclipse/index.html

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 07.04.2005 22:17:22 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

Another weak signal here this morning, close to 135.922 kHz. Argo pic sent
to Markus for analysis.

Nothing received from North America (I have a substantial land foreground to
NA compared to Mike ZL4OL, but I am nearer the sea for directions towards
EU).

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91987 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 22:09:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 22:09:29 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJfD7-0004ml-Mf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJfD7-0004mi-KJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:10:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJfFl-0001jq-3W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:13:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJfBj-0006fB-3v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJfBi-0006f2-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:22 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJfBi-0002pd-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:22 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.ff.10ff9d1d (3972) for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:09:12 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.8 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re2: LF: Another weak sig Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit sorry, that should have been 18:04...18:11. - Markus

MarkusVester@aol.com:

In the overlayed image I can vaguely see a few brighter noise pixels during Laurie's "Q" at 19:04...19:11, which would have been inconspicuous in the Argo capture alone.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54950 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 22:11:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 22:11:47 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJfE3-0006rQ-Fe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:11:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJfE3-0006rN-DX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:11:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJfHy-0002lU-Ad for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:15:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJfDt-0006jS-4S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:11:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJfDs-0006jJ-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:11:36 +0100 Received: from mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.119]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJfDr-0002qr-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:11:36 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050407221121.ETJB5260.mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:11:21 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([222.153.168.166]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050407221121.JICK4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:11:21 +1200 Message-ID: <000d01c53bbe$bc6248f0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1ad.35351d0a.2f8708c6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:11:19 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.119 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Another weak sig Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thanks to Markus for the analysis.

73, Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:05 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Another weak sig

Dear Bob and Teo,

you did it again:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_7Apr05_overlay.gif (74kB, 30s/10.5mHz).

Bob received the first "AR" at 16:50...17:13, and then 18:12...18:22, near the end of the capture. Apparently the path was already open when Teo started transmitting.

In the overlayed image I can vaguely see a few brighter noise pixels during Laurie's "Q" at 19:04...19:11, which would have been inconspicuous in the Argo capture alone.

And good luck for tomorrow's eclipse experiment - see also DF3LP's 75-kHz observation on 11 Aug 1999: http://www.qsl.net/df3lp/projects/eclipse/index.html

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 07.04.2005 22:17:22 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Hi all,

Another weak signal here this morning, close to 135.922 kHz. Argo pic sent
to Markus for analysis.

Nothing received from North America (I have a substantial land foreground to
NA compared to Mike ZL4OL, but I am nearer the sea for directions towards
EU).

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 46912 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 09:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 09:04:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJpRT-000JCA-71 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:06:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJpRT-000JC7-4s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:06:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DJpQV-0008Dc-0B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:05:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJpPO-0007WP-JE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:04:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJpPO-0007WG-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:04:10 +0100 Received: from amsfep17-int.chello.nl ([213.46.243.16]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJpPM-00057T-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:04:10 +0100 Received: from MARLEEN ([80.56.172.156]) by amsfep17-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050408090401.VRQA4858.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@MARLEEN> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:04:01 +0200 Message-ID: <003c01c53c19$e83d7d40$9cac3850@MARLEEN> From: "PA0WFO" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:04:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 213.46.243.16 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of chello.nl X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Ropex "The First" Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
For the members of the LF group ,

After an extensive investigation by Aad PA3BBS and myself PA0WFO we have the circuit diagram and the specs of the sandpapered driver IC and the specs of the fets in the final . Drop a line to my email adres pa0wfo@chello.nl and I will be glad to send you the files .

73,s William PAØWFO
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 78496 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 10:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 10:08:22 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJqPW-0004aw-R1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:08:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJqPW-0004at-PO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:08:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJqTT-0001SD-Dl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:12:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJqPB-0007dL-Ju for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:08:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJqP8-0007dC-RA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:07:58 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJqP7-0005bp-Cs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:07:58 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005040810073901100fnl0se>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:07:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c53c22$de7cc280$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 06:08:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.55 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 7/8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Only the slightest of traces fromf DRP...Argo blinded by static from big Tstorms over SE US. Will continue watching. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18492 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 11:11:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 11:11:16 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJrPk-000M9b-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:12:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJrPk-000M9V-8P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:12:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DJrOl-0000st-Sb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:11:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJrNz-0007lr-96 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:10:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJrNy-0007li-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:10:50 +0100 Received: from mx1.mail.ru ([194.67.23.121]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJrNx-0005wv-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:10:50 +0100 Received: from [62.33.236.175] (port=1042 helo=mail.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1DJrNv-0009k1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:10:48 +0400 Message-ID: <425666BE.9070400@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:10:54 +0400 From: Dmitri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of mail.ru designates 194.67.23.121 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi LF group RX9BS will be TX 08.04 and 09.04 at 15:30 to 20:30z every half an hour (20-27 min) DFCW30(40) 137774.5 RX- QRSS3 mode only. Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55566 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 13:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 13:09:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJtGa-0001ua-F2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:11:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJtGa-0001uX-2u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:11:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DJtFb-00011Y-FI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:10:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJtEa-0007w6-Ab for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:09:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJtEZ-0007vx-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:09:15 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJtEY-0006SW-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:09:15 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost.fabulous.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3116.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C3DE43400084 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3101 (wwinf3101 [172.22.158.28]) by mwinf3116.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B75793400082 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050408130908751.B75793400082@mwinf3116.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2602278.1112965748739.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.154.120.72] Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:08 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re.AQC2CA/AQC2OL Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Many thanks Ed for the Gray line graphics, hopefully the eclipse will extend the darkness time.

To be safe, I will transmit from 1800 to 2100utc.

The Kp and DST index's are low so this probably my one and only chance !

Thanks to Bob and Mike for looking, fingers crossed.

73 Laurie.

Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98927 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 13:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 13:15:49 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DJtKv-0006QG-8x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:15:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJtKv-0006QB-5p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:15:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJtKu-000P1N-TG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:15:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJtKh-00080X-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:15:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJtKg-00080O-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:15:34 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJtKf-0006UR-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:15:34 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.12a.5ada1088 (16781) for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:15:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.5ada1088.2f87dde9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:15:21 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.204 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: RX9BS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Dmitry,

I have shifted the grabber's TA window by 1Hz to 137774...780.6 Hz. The Chayka "calibration" line at 137775 (GRI 8000 from Bryansk et al) is weakly visible. Your "YO" is on the Eu screen since 12:02, drifting up very slightly to now 135921.48.

Best of luck
Markus, DF6NM

ra3yo@mail.ru:

RX9BS will be TX 08.04 and 09.04 at 15:30 to 20:30z every half an hour
(20-27 min)
        DFCW30(40) 137774.5
        RX- QRSS3 mode only.

Dmitry
RA3YO

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48834 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 16:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 16:42:37 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJwaS-000JIR-7D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:44:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJwaS-000JIO-4G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:44:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJwd0-0001zO-Rw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:46:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJwYT-0008Ed-7r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:42:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJwYS-0008EU-Sz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:42:00 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJwYP-0007O8-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:42:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 77809 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 20:41:50 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by unix.dx with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 20:41:50 +0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:41:30 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <813127498.20050408204130@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <2602278.1112965748739.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> References: <2602278.1112965748739.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 80.68.4.13 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of dx.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,URIBL_SBL=0.629 Subject: LF: eclipse 8 apr Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050207030006050106030307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050207030006050106030307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LF enthusiasts, it's a zone of a solar eclipse also see http://astronet.ru/db/msg/1205108/ecl-map2-big.gif.html The full eclipse will be observed in a narrow strip (abt 30km) in the middle of a zone The full phase will be at abt 20-21z 73! 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(v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1205319158.20050408211012@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <2602278.1112965748739.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> References: <2602278.1112965748739.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 80.68.4.13 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of dx.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Beacon's time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) LF enthusiasts and Laurie, Friday, April 8, 2005 Laurie G3AQC wrote: .................. LMG> I will transmit from 1800 to 2100utc. .................. maybe from 18z Apr 8 to 5-6z Apr 9 ??? The eclipse will from 18z (start at ZL) up to abt 23z (ending at S-E USA) 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70542 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 20:47:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 20:47:53 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK0Q0-0001GC-Ty for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:49:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK0Q0-0001G4-LP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:49:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DK0RQ-0007Tv-T8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:51:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DK0NZ-00006w-CR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:47:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DK0NZ-00006n-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:47:01 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DK0NW-0000qY-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:47:01 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050408204649.YDAS28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:46:49 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.91.244]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050408204649.DQXR22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:46:49 +1200 Message-ID: <000601c53c7c$1a633e10$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1ad.35351d0a.2f8708c6@aol.com> <000d01c53bbe$bc6248f0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:46:53 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Nil to report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,

Nil to report this morning.

73, Bob ZL2CA
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89912 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 21:03:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 21:03:36 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK0f2-000Doj-Ow for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:05:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK0f2-000Dog-Kr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:05:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DK0ge-0007P9-6c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:06:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DK0dK-0000C1-Jn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:03:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DK0dK-0000Bs-9q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:03:18 +0100 Received: from avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.158]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DK0dI-0000uw-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:03:18 +0100 Received: from pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050408210302.WKNB22141.avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:03:02 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([219.88.21.90]) by pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050408210301.OQJC7985.pop1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:03:01 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c53c7e$59c6e500$5a1558db@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <041a01c537ba$067f54e0$69090d54@traceydlqceh0p> <000201c537c6$55ffb1c0$6507a8c0@Main> <000201c537c8$a260ffe0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000e01c537ce$5d365680$b64136d2@mcalevey> <000001c5388b$301f62a0$364036d2@mcalevey> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:01:06 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.158 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nil overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No Eu signals seen but XDW was good copy last night. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86809 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 01:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 01:20:21 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DK4e4-0002iV-W8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:20:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DK4e4-0002iS-UK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:20:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DK4i3-0007XZ-7X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:24:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DK4dO-0000RP-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:19:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DK4dN-0000RG-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:19:37 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DK4dK-0001pH-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:19:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 7768 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 01:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2005 01:19:28 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c53c99$d9d672e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:19:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: AQC Stretch Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050706000002080204010700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050706000002080204010700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
A long "AQC" from an Argo 30 second slow screen at 0115 UTC:

John Andrews, W1TAG
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Much better on next ID at 60 sec slow:

Taken at 0200 UTC. Some signs of CT1DRP as well.

John Andrews
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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi Wolf and all, I just posted a copy of the WOLF sources at http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf-source.zip This has the complete environment; if you have MS VC++ you should be able to build it right away. Binaries are also included, so you can see if the build gives the same results. The code is simple C, so it should not be hard to build it with Borland or GCC. All the real work is done in wolf.cpp; there are various utility functions in fft.cpp. Although I don't presently have time to write new code, I'd be glad to answer any questions that may come up. In addition to a GUI and real-time operation, here are some features I'd like to (eventually) see: 1. Slow it down! Instead of a raw rate of 10 bps, operation at e.g. 1 or 2 bps would greatly reduce interference to stations operating on nearby frequencies, and permit operation between LORAN lines. A slower format would also be much more tolerant of timing errors, in a future system using synchronized clocks. I believe that reducing the data rate is a simple matter of adjusting some parameters, but there are two problems: a) It's likely that many Tx or Rx would not be phase-stable over the 8 or 16 minutes that a frame would now take. One would need to add a "stability" setting to allow searching for carrier frequency and phase over a selectable fraction of a frame. b) It would be a shame to have to wait 16 minutes for results, even when the incoming signal is strong. One could perform a decode with e.g. 1/4 of a frame, substituting "erasures" for the missing bits. 2. Provide for Tx/Rx bit timing synchronization. This could use GPS or another external source, or simply depend on accurate computer clocks. That should greatly improve sensitivity, by eliminating false reference pattern sync on weak signals. 3. Implement "smart" signal averaging, weighting the incoming message symbols according to the quality of the received reference symbols. That would avoid degradation of data received during good propagation, by noise received during prior poor propagation. Also, when the received reference is "excellent", the decoder could reset, allowing different messages to be sent in each frame. A combination of (2) and (3) should permit operation at "any" SNR, though it would of course take 100 times longer to receive a signal 10 dB weaker. 4. Implement some means of Tx/Rx carrier sync. This probably requires GPS at the Tx end, though it may be possible to use LORAN QRM on receive. First, that would improve LF skywave performance by a few dB. However, on a long-term phase stable path, e.g. VLF or groundwave, it should permit operation at any SNR, taking only 10 times longer to receive a signal 10 dB weaker. If different folks are interested in tackling these topics, perhaps I could act as a coordinator. 73, Stewart KK7KA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58181 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 02:51:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 02:51:00 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK65G-000Gkh-BG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:52:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DK65G-000Gke-8z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:52:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DK67m-0000BV-7u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:55:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DK63e-0000h7-Ie for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:50:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DK63e-0000gy-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:50:50 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DK63c-00026f-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:50:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j392nbks027063 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:51:33 -0500 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> In-Reply-To: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Stewart, By the sounds of what you wrote, WOLF could become the mode of choice for crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level. I wish I knew how to write code... -- Mike WE0H WD2XGI Stewart Nelson wrote: >Hi Wolf and all, > >I just posted a copy of the WOLF sources at >http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf-source.zip > >This has the complete environment; if you have MS VC++ >you should be able to build it right away. Binaries >are also included, so you can see if the build gives >the same results. > >The code is simple C, so it should not be hard to >build it with Borland or GCC. All the real work >is done in wolf.cpp; there are various utility >functions in fft.cpp. > >Although I don't presently have time to write new code, >I'd be glad to answer any questions that may come up. > >In addition to a GUI and real-time operation, here are >some features I'd like to (eventually) see: > >1. Slow it down! Instead of a raw rate of 10 bps, > operation at e.g. 1 or 2 bps would greatly > reduce interference to stations operating on > nearby frequencies, and permit operation between > LORAN lines. A slower format would also be much > more tolerant of timing errors, in a future system > using synchronized clocks. > > I believe that reducing the data rate is a simple > matter of adjusting some parameters, but there > are two problems: a) It's likely that many Tx or > Rx would not be phase-stable over the 8 or 16 > minutes that a frame would now take. One would > need to add a "stability" setting to allow > searching for carrier frequency and phase over a > selectable fraction of a frame. b) It would be > a shame to have to wait 16 minutes for results, > even when the incoming signal is strong. One > could perform a decode with e.g. 1/4 of a frame, > substituting "erasures" for the missing bits. > >2. Provide for Tx/Rx bit timing synchronization. > This could use GPS or another external source, > or simply depend on accurate computer clocks. > That should greatly improve sensitivity, by > eliminating false reference pattern sync on > weak signals. > >3. Implement "smart" signal averaging, weighting > the incoming message symbols according to the > quality of the received reference symbols. > That would avoid degradation of data received > during good propagation, by noise received > during prior poor propagation. Also, when > the received reference is "excellent", the > decoder could reset, allowing different > messages to be sent in each frame. > >A combination of (2) and (3) should permit >operation at "any" SNR, though it would of course >take 100 times longer to receive a signal 10 dB >weaker. > >4. Implement some means of Tx/Rx carrier sync. > This probably requires GPS at the Tx end, > though it may be possible to use LORAN QRM > on receive. First, that would improve LF > skywave performance by a few dB. However, > on a long-term phase stable path, e.g. VLF > or groundwave, it should permit operation at > any SNR, taking only 10 times longer to > receive a signal 10 dB weaker. > >If different folks are interested in tackling >these topics, perhaps I could act as a coordinator. > >73, > >Stewart KK7KA > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 72282 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 08:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 08:32:23 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKBPg-000Ic7-2N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:33:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKBPg-000Ic4-0I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:33:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKBS7-0006iK-LB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:36:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKBNZ-00012R-Pd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:31:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKBNZ-00012I-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:31:45 +0100 Received: from sterling.noc-servers.net ([69.93.216.2]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKBNX-0003HH-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:31:45 +0100 Received: from [192.55.122.100] (helo=w2ksn) by sterling.noc-servers.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DKBNU-0000EX-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 04:31:40 -0400 Message-ID: <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:32:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Mike and all, > By the sounds of what you wrote, WOLF could become the mode of choice > for crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level. I'd very much like to see that happen, but ... If we had conditions similar to US lowfers, with just a second hop added, then I believe it would be workable. However, going west to east, you have some very strong LF broadcast stations to contend with. They are spaced 9 kHz or less, so you can't put your signal more than 4.5 kHz from one of those carriers. I've been told that the sideband energy is typically many dB above (quiet) atmospheric noise level. It might be possible to choose a special time, e.g. when the broadcast station is off the air for maintenance, but it would be much less likely to find good propagation with such an additional constraint. Going east to west, it's probably not legal to Tx near 190 kHz. If you had to use 136 kHz, the lower antenna efficiency and higher noise level would be a significant disadvantage. Any ideas for mitigating these problems? 73, Stewart KK7KA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68902 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 09:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 09:16:50 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKC5C-0003rS-EJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:16:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKC5C-0003rP-CZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:16:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKC9C-0000vd-37 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:20:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKC4y-00019F-2W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:16:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKC4x-000196-O3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:16:35 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKC4w-0003PL-Dh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:16:35 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (fake.air7seas.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 768CE5800084 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:16:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3103 (wwinf3103 [172.22.158.30]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A68E5800082 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:16:28 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050409091628435.6A68E5800082@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <3475898.1113038188423.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.24.13] Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:16:28 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re.AQC stretch Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Many thanks John for the report, looks like conditions were average. I had tried earlier for ZL, the eclipse seemed to present an opportunity,but no luck, then Ed suggested that I stay on.

73 Laurie

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This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60765 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 10:28:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 10:28:30 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKDE3-000AQi-Pj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:30:03 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKDE3-000AQf-NS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:30:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKDCY-000NO5-Hx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:28:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKDC9-0001Fn-4G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:28:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKDC8-0001Fe-Mw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:28:04 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKDC7-0003Y3-AP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:28:04 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005040910275601400lomf5e>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:27:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c53cee$d1502260$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:28:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 9/10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Didn't get started listening until late ;~( and by then the static had pretty much taken over. Just traces of DRP visible. Will get an earlier start listening tonight. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31825 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 12:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 12:40:31 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKFGJ-00051U-PJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:40:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKFGJ-00051R-NX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:40:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKFJM-0006sv-TF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:43:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKFFh-0001Ok-On for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:39:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKFFh-0001Ob-Dl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:39:53 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKFFg-0003xs-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:39:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 32197 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 12:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2005 12:39:43 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c53cf8$e23e0b00$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3475898.1113038188423.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:40:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re.AQC stretch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Laurie, My best copy of you was the second clip I posted from 0200. Your signal was at least partly visible until 0445. Also had some scratchy copy of CT1DRP, but nothing else could be identified. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86987 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 14:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 14:55:23 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKHMp-0007ke-IX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:55:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKHMp-0007kb-Gz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:55:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKHQp-0004Cs-TW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:59:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKHML-0001Xo-2j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:54:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKHMK-0001Xf-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:54:52 +0100 Received: from cas-mta1-fe.casema.nl ([83.80.1.20] helo=mta.casema.nl) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKHMJ-0004h7-6v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:54:52 +0100 Received: from s9z5i6.casema.nl ([83.85.106.243]) by cas-mta1.mgmt.casema.nl (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IEO00EA9PF7CG90@cas-mta1.mgmt.casema.nl> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:54:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:55:12 +0200 From: Dick Rollema X-Sender: dickrollema@casema.nl@mail.casema.nl (Unverified) To: LF-Group Message-id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050409165303.02a16da0@mail.casema.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 83.80.1.20 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of casema.nl X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: New station ON5VK Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Today I worked a for me new station: ON5VK, Marcel at Namur. Received RST 559, sent RST 569. 73, Dick, PA0SE JN22GD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93993 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 14:56:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 14:56:53 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKHQ0-000OKE-02 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:58:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKHPz-000OKB-Tg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:58:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKHRK-0002Tg-8K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:00:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKHOC-0001bT-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:56:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKHOB-0001bI-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:56:47 +0100 Received: from bay102-f8.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.18] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKHO9-0004iJ-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:56:47 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:56:39 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.209 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:56:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.209] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:56:38 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2005 14:56:39.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[555F8210:01C53D14] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.18 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010605050609040406050407" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010605050609040406050407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit After a bit of research (thanks John) partial CT1DRP was into OK last night. at around 7000Kms ..I was busy playing with the new LF DDS so didnt listen too long but 0300z was about the peak - it was very noisy down here in the Southern plains and I can see scraps of others down at 921 but nothing id-able... I went back onto transmit at around 0400Z for ZL. 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Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88183 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 15:57:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 15:57:08 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKIMJ-0007mm-3q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:58:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKIMI-0007mh-T8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:58:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKINc-0004N1-MW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:00:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKIK8-0001hw-Jf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:56:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKIK8-0001hn-5s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:56:40 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKIK6-0005An-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:56:40 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-56-8.access.as9105.com ([80.43.56.8]:2414 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DKIK2-0004zV-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:56:34 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF $Rsgb LF Group$" Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:58:05 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: SXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi All at LF, Is my equipment or my eyes deceiving me or has SXA moved up in frequency by 100Hz ? Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7271 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 16:52:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 16:52:38 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKJDp-0001qM-Dl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:54:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKJDp-0001qJ-As for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:54:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKJGI-0008WB-Fk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:56:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKJBz-0001nx-Cw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:52:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKJBy-0001no-VY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:52:18 +0100 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKJBx-0005W9-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:52:18 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.198.3c88ca17 (1320) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:52:08 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <198.3c88ca17.2f896238@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:52:08 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.144.208 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: SXA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Gary,

you are right - they switched off at 10:55 and returned at 11:00 on the new frequency. Lots of sideband energy near 135.922 in Europe, but hopefully not a problem in ZL or W ;-).

Markus, DF6NM

g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk:

Is my equipment or my eyes deceiving me or has SXA moved up in frequency by
100Hz ?

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11291 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 17:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 17:50:20 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKK7g-000ABL-Nv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:51:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKK7g-000ABI-Lf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:51:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKK68-000DdB-Ov for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:50:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKK5n-0001tr-08 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:49:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKK5m-0001ti-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:49:58 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKK5l-0005oy-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:49:58 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.190.193 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 17:49:50 -0000 Message-ID: <003801c53d2c$8c0f5e80$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: SXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Gary I think you are refering to the Greek Naval station at Marathon (??) We have had contact with them (I am not sure but the call-sign I have is SXV) and the actual transmission is USB on a sub carrier about their registered frequency. I noticed a few days ago they seemed to have drifted a bit low, I assume they have adjusted the sub carrier generator.frequency. This 100Hz moving around is quite normal for this transmission. When I was trying to monitor them a few years ago to try and get propagation information I had to keep checking their frequency, to make sure they were still in the RX passband. By way of comparison my CFH receiver has not been retuned for 18 months. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: 09 April 2005 16:58 Subject: LF: SXA > Hi All at LF, > > Is my equipment or my eyes deceiving me or has SXA moved up in frequency by > 100Hz ? > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91763 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 18:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 18:33:02 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKKn0-000FsX-3M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:34:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKKn0-000FsT-0K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:34:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKKpR-00025P-9r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:37:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKKlB-0001zS-RL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:32:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKKlB-0001zJ-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:32:45 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKKlA-00061J-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:32:45 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-56-8.access.as9105.com ([80.43.56.8]:3151 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DKKl4-000Cq5-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:32:38 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:33:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <003801c53d2c$8c0f5e80$6507a8c0@Main> Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: RE: Re: SXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi All, Thanks for your replies which confirmed my observations, sorry about the slip up on the call sign I did mean SXV (135.8 KHz). I havn't seen it shift before. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 09 April 2005 18:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: SXA Hi Gary I think you are refering to the Greek Naval station at Marathon (??) We have had contact with them (I am not sure but the call-sign I have is SXV) and the actual transmission is USB on a sub carrier about their registered frequency. I noticed a few days ago they seemed to have drifted a bit low, I assume they have adjusted the sub carrier generator.frequency. This 100Hz moving around is quite normal for this transmission. When I was trying to monitor them a few years ago to try and get propagation information I had to keep checking their frequency, to make sure they were still in the RX passband. By way of comparison my CFH receiver has not been retuned for 18 months. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF (Rsgb LF Group)" Sent: 09 April 2005 16:58 Subject: LF: SXA > Hi All at LF, > > Is my equipment or my eyes deceiving me or has SXA moved up in frequency by > 100Hz ? > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > > Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4498 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 19:44:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 19:44:58 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKLud-000Paf-EV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:46:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKLud-000Pac-Bx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:46:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKLx5-0008Bs-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:49:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKLse-00025o-1M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:44:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKLsd-00025f-Ie for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:44:31 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKLsc-0006Y0-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:44:31 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DKLsQ-0002Ut-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:44:18 +0200 Received: from www7.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.210]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DKLsQ-0006B2-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:44:18 +0200 Received: from www-data by www7.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DKLsQ-0002Pa-Hu for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:44:18 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 217.2.240.242 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:44:18 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Stewart and group, That's great news, thanks ! I don't have MS C (instead Borland C++Builder) but it shouldn't be too tough to create a project file. I will try to build your original project as soon as time permits. Will keep you (and all) informed, maybe on a temporary website. At the moment, trying to get SP0PAPA's attention but inner-EU conditions seem to be very poor now (19:43 UTC). Best regards, Wolf DF0WD / DL4YHF (sorry for any commercials added by webmail service) --- original Nachricht Ende ---- Hi Wolf and all, I just posted a copy of the WOLF sources at http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf-source.zip This has the complete environment; if you have MS VC++ you should be able to build it right away. Binaries are also included, so you can see if the build gives the same results. The code is simple C, so it should not be hard to build it with Borland or GCC. All the real work is done in wolf.cpp; there are various utility functions in fft.cpp. Although I don't presently have time to write new code, I'd be glad to answer any questions that may come up. In addition to a GUI and real-time operation, here are some features I'd like to (eventually) see: 1. Slow it down! Instead of a raw rate of 10 bps, operation at e.g. 1 or 2 bps would greatly reduce interference to stations operating on nearby frequencies, and permit operation between LORAN lines. A slower format would also be much more tolerant of timing errors, in a future system using synchronized clocks. I believe that reducing the data rate is a simple matter of adjusting some parameters, but there are two problems: a) It's likely that many Tx or Rx would not be phase-stable over the 8 or 16 minutes that a frame would now take. One would need to add a "stability" setting to allow searching for carrier frequency and phase over a selectable fraction of a frame. b) It would be a shame to have to wait 16 minutes for results, even when the incoming signal is strong. One could perform a decode with e.g. 1/4 of a frame, substituting "erasures" for the missing bits. 2. Provide for Tx/Rx bit timing synchronization. This could use GPS or another external source, or simply depend on accurate computer clocks. That should greatly improve sensitivity, by eliminating false reference pattern sync on weak signals. 3. Implement "smart" signal averaging, weighting the incoming message symbols according to the quality of the received reference symbols. That would avoid degradation of data received during good propagation, by noise received during prior poor propagation. Also, when the received reference is "excellent", the decoder could reset, allowing different messages to be sent in each frame. A combination of (2) and (3) should permit operation at "any" SNR, though it would of course take 100 times longer to receive a signal 10 dB weaker. 4. Implement some means of Tx/Rx carrier sync. This probably requires GPS at the Tx end, though it may be possible to use LORAN QRM on receive. First, that would improve LF skywave performance by a few dB. However, on a long-term phase stable path, e.g. VLF or groundwave, it should permit operation at any SNR, taking only 10 times longer to receive a signal 10 dB weaker. If different folks are interested in tackling these topics, perhaps I could act as a coordinator. 73, Stewart KK7KA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23329 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 19:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 19:55:15 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKM4m-000LdF-0W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:57:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKM4l-000LdC-UK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:57:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKM64-0003Yv-PZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:58:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKM2q-0002AR-Hq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:55:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKM2q-0002AI-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:55:04 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKM2o-0006b4-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:55:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 12043 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 19:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2005 19:55:00 -0000 Message-ID: <006701c53d35$b0b462e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:55:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: XES Jason Slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES is running on 137.779 kHz tonight in Jason Slow mode. Reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81757 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 20:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 20:31:42 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKMe3-0000Zg-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:33:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKMe3-0000ZX-Ct for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:33:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKMcI-000ECy-3z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:31:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMc1-0002GC-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:31:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMc1-0002G3-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:31:25 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKMbz-00070a-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:31:25 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DKMbz-00050I-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:31:23 +0200 Received: from www13.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.206]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DKMby-0002LM-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:31:22 +0200 Received: from www-data by www13.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DKMby-0006D5-62 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:31:22 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 217.2.240.242 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:31:22 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185 Subject: LF: SP0PAPA on 137.7 ... Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Message.. in locator KO02PF, just working him "o" both ways.

Anyone else ?

73, Wolf DL4YHF

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9763 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 20:48:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 20:48:43 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKMuK-0008e2-Mj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:50:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKMuK-0008dz-JP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:50:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKMvp-0001bV-HC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMs4-0002Kv-HN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:48:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMs4-0002Km-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:48:00 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKMs1-0007Fa-PK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:48:00 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DKMs0-0002ZE-00; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:47:56 +0200 Received: from HW1 (XHMGxvZboeISJv88xogp72SnW8aey7t1WtlL0b7Q7Tk-ZMU3w1JBkE@[84.133.62.116]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DKMry-0zrjCy0; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:47:54 +0200 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:45:02 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1127949846.20050409224502@t-online.de> To: "dl4yhf@freenet.de" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: XHMGxvZboeISJv88xogp72SnW8aey7t1WtlL0b7Q7Tk-ZMU3w1JBkE X-TOI-MSGID: 40895c27-f84a-4d5a-b6dc-d9606e97ee1f X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.82 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: SP0PAPA on 137.7 ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > .. in locator KO02PF, just working him "o" both ways. > Anyone else ? > 73, Wolf DL4YHF OK2BVG and DL2HRE worked him this morning. SP0PAPA was calling several times between 15z and 16z but no replies. captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15598 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 20:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 20:51:48 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKMvj-00059x-Ty for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKMvj-00059u-SI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKMym-0002qZ-Vo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:54:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMvd-0002PN-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKMvd-0002PE-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:41 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKMva-0007JQ-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:41 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050409205119.ZCFU28243.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:51:19 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.91.244]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050409205119.LYLZ8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:51:19 +1200 Message-ID: <000601c53d45$e7130bb0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1ad.35351d0a.2f8708c6@aol.com> <000d01c53bbe$bc6248f0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000601c53c7c$1a633e10$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:51:26 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.145 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Nil to report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,

Nothing spotted this morning.

73, Bob ZL2CA
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4584 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 07:53:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 07:53:15 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKXHU-000JxG-CA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:54:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKXHU-000Jx8-5m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:54:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKXIv-0004l9-U2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:56:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKXFI-0004Fd-8I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKXFH-0004FU-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:39 +0100 Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.231]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKXFG-0006pA-Kw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:39 +0100 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DKXFG-0004X7-00 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:38 +0100 Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (40-091.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.91]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9) with ESMTP id j3A7qRN3008435 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:37 +0100 Message-ID: <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:52:18 +0100 From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.247.47.231 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zetnet.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Recent correspondence on the lowfer reflector indicates that Hartmut Wolff, Bill Ashlock and Larry Putman are looking at how to receive such signals in Europe. I seem to recall that Europe No 1 on 183kHz is off for maintenance during the night. I believe it is from 2200-0200z, but I'm prepared to be told I have got it wrong. John G3PAI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88958 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 08:58:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 08:58:05 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKYGa-0007D5-Qv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:58:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKYGa-0007D2-P2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:58:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKYGa-000Bn5-Mn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:58:04 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKYGE-0004Lk-1G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:57:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKYGD-0004Lb-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:57:41 +0100 Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.24]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKYGB-000720-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:57:41 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 833121C00091 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:57:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.114.97.152] (ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-19-152.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.114.97.152]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 47B5E1C0008A for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:57:33 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050410085733293.47B5E1C0008A@mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:57:32 +0200 From: "Jean-L. RAULT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.24 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wanadoo.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Herman Boel in his excellent "Euro-african MW guide" (see http://www.kdscholz.de/boel/EMWG-2005A.pdf) states that Europe 1 is on air on 183 kHz from 03:00 to 00:00. I confess that during that period of time I'm generally not very active. However, I could exceptionnally wake up a few minutes just to check if Europe 1 in on air, should a formal request be (kindly) expressed on this list . 73 de Jean-Louis F6AGR John Rabson a écrit : >Recent correspondence on the lowfer reflector indicates that Hartmut Wolff, Bill Ashlock and Larry Putman are looking at how to receive such signals in Europe. > >I seem to recall that Europe No 1 on 183kHz is off for maintenance during the night. I believe it is from 2200-0200z, but I'm prepared to be told I have got it wrong. > >John G3PAI > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86025 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 10:52:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 10:52:53 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKa5Y-0007Gx-7b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:54:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKa5Y-0007Gu-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:54:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKa6l-00058A-SD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:56:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKa3J-0004Tl-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:52:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKa3I-0004Tc-Ek for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:52:28 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKa3G-0007bm-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:52:28 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005041010521301300neh2se>; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:52:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c53dbb$5c3e69a0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:52:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 9/10 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090102050809090607090609" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090102050809090607090609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Signals started out fairly good but deteriorated as the evening progressed. Traces of DRP visible through 0530Z. Early traces of AR but nothing thereafter.

Brian - believe the previously run longer keying format shows up better under these condx.

Will continue to monitor TA window.

Jay, W1VD
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Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKbu6-0004bX-Ot for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:51:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKbu6-0004bO-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:51:06 +0100 Received: from bay102-f42.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.52] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKbu2-00080u-Nu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:51:06 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:50:56 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.209 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:50:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.209] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:50:55 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2005 12:50:56.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFDB76C0:01C53DCB] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.52 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: TA overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit It was moderately noisy last night here in Oklahoma (only S9+10...) but only traces of EU seen. XES was very strong in the middle of the night and drowned out all the QRN on audio... XDW is going to be /continues to be intermittent and variable in power ourput today - We also have bad weather on this way and Bartlesville AC power seems to be a bit up and down. Laurence KL1X em26aq http://myweb.cableonw.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12369 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 13:06:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 13:06:19 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKcAU-000D2k-ES for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:08:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKcAU-000D2h-7o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:08:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKc8p-000555-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:06:19 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKc8c-0004gL-6d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:06:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKc8b-0004gC-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:06:05 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKc8Z-00084S-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:06:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 30420 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 13:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2005 13:05:59 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:06:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) All, Europe 1 is officially off from 0000 to approximately 0300, but there is frequently a dead carrier for part of that time. Sometimes the audio restarts before 0300, as well. The sidebands are annoying over here -- I can't imagine what they must be like on the other side of the pond. As I recall, the audio frequency response of these AM stations is limited to 5 kHz (or was it 4.5 kHz?). How bad is the interference in EU from the Iceland station on 189? John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19382 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 15:54:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 15:54:38 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKenO-000Bgb-It for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:56:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKenO-000BgY-GH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:56:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKepl-0002Va-RB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:58:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKekx-0004rO-OJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKekx-0004r6-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKekv-0000Nb-Na for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from fwd21.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DKekv-0003F2-00; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:53:49 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TcZP8BZJQeCqSyvzBWfDvzBQ3v35AGao8+vJxm4Am4RYEf9oqicPYe@[84.133.113.11]) by fwd21.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DKekS-1p16G10; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:53:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:53:19 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TcZP8BZJQeCqSyvzBWfDvzBQ3v35AGao8+vJxm4Am4RYEf9oqicPYe X-TOI-MSGID: 40603dcc-467d-4d4f-80bb-f0234fc5ba6e X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.80 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, > Europe 1 is officially off from 0000 to approximately 0300, but there is > frequently a dead carrier for part of that time. Sometimes the audio > restarts before 0300, as well. Europe 1 is now 2300-0200 off (during Eu summertime). In the past weeks I noted no carrier in that time. A dead carrier would have been not a problem with AGC off. > The sidebands are annoying over here -- I > can't imagine what they must be like on the other side of the pond. As I > recall, the audio frequency response of these AM stations is limited to 5 > kHz (or was it 4.5 kHz?). This is the problem for the reception on 185 kHz. The audio should be limited to 4.5 kHz but most of the stations transmitting a broader sideband, up to 6 kHz. > How bad is the interference in EU from the Iceland > station on 189? During the winter I have reception of the Iceland station 24/7. Despite the sideband splatter from 189 kHz, 183kHz and 177 kHz reception is possible using very low FFT bandwidth. Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97724 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 15:54:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 15:54:38 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKeli-00033A-8X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:54:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKeli-000337-6p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:54:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKeli-000EA0-4U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:54:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKekx-0004rS-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKekx-0004rA-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKekv-0000Nc-Oa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:51 +0100 Received: from fwd21.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DKeku-0003tL-01; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:53:48 +0200 Received: from HW1 (JJvaYBZpQen-smD1H9X5ptzlvuaEqL6OigCcxfE02yZIiN+TdayI6U@[84.133.113.11]) by fwd21.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DKekS-1p16G00; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:53:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:13:34 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1396600933.20050410171334@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <006701c53d35$b0b462e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <006701c53d35$b0b462e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: JJvaYBZpQen-smD1H9X5ptzlvuaEqL6OigCcxfE02yZIiN+TdayI6U X-TOI-MSGID: 589d6ded-0e74-43e6-a1cc-5d53ccba3fa6 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.20 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: XES Jason Slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Captured only a few signs during local dawn 0410-0500z. captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de > WD2XES is running on 137.779 kHz tonight in Jason Slow mode. Reports are > welcome. > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch > WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69109 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 17:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 17:25:19 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKgDN-000FwP-He for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:27:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKgDN-000FwM-FI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:27:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKgFV-0007dl-Ox for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:29:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKgAw-00055S-Gg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:24:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKgAw-00055J-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:24:46 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.31]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKgAt-0000ni-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:24:46 +0100 Received: from Smisan (a80-127-229-95.dial.xs4all.nl [80.127.229.95]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AHOgcK098913 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:24:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from misan@xs4all.nl) From: "M. Sanders" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:24:46 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c53df2$31ce22a0$5fe57f50@Smisan> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <813127498.20050408204130@dx.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.109.24.31 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of xs4all.nl X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: RE: eclipse 8 apr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hello LF group, Did anyone do field strength measurements for a LF propagation path across this eclipse like during the 1999 eclipse? I am interested in observations of LF propagation during this event and would like to compare results with 1999 measurements Greetings and best 73's, Michael, PC4M (ex PA3BSH). -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Namens Ed Lesnichy Verzonden: vrijdag 8 april 2005 18:42 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: eclipse 8 apr LF enthusiasts, it's a zone of a solar eclipse also see http://astronet.ru/db/msg/1205108/ecl-map2-big.gif.html The full eclipse will be observed in a narrow strip (abt 30km) in the middle of a zone The full phase will be at abt 20-21z 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39192 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 18:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 18:15:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKh0M-000PYl-2O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:17:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKh0L-000PYc-SQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:17:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKgyR-000HZG-Kh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:15:55 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKgyE-0005Ic-Ns for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:15:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKgyE-0005IT-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:15:42 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKgyC-00014N-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:15:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3AIFQXJ029671 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:16:13 -0500 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.045 Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit How quiet is the band from 160kc-177kc?

-- Mike WE0H WD2XGI

Hartmut Wolff wrote:

Hi all,

Europe 1 is officially off from 0000 to approximately 0300, but there is frequently a dead carrier for part of that time. Sometimes the audio restarts before 0300, as well.

Europe 1 is now 2300-0200 off (during Eu summertime). In the past weeks I noted no carrier in that time. A dead carrier would have been not a problem with AGC off.

The sidebands are annoying over here -- I can't imagine what they must be like on the other side of the pond. As I recall, the audio frequency response of these AM stations is limited to 5 kHz (or was it 4.5 kHz?).

This is the problem for the reception on 185 kHz. The audio should be limited to 4.5 kHz but most of the stations transmitting a broader sideband, up to 6 kHz.

How bad is the interference in EU from the Iceland station on 189?

During the winter I have reception of the Iceland station 24/7. Despite the sideband splatter from 189 kHz, 183kHz and 177 kHz reception is possible using very low FFT bandwidth. Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97997 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 18:46:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 18:46:10 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKhTc-00071D-19 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:48:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKhTb-00070w-7J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:48:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKhVh-0006HM-BP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:50:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKhQw-0005Ox-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKhQv-0005Oo-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:21 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKhQu-00019E-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:21 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-56-181.access.as9105.com ([80.43.56.181]:3645 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DKhQ7-0006ZJ-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:44:31 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF $Rsgb LF Group$" Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.48 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re : SXV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi All, SXV went off about 1715z, back on normal frequency as of 1720z, looks a lot cleaner around 135.921KHz on Markus's grabber. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 46469 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 20:27:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 20:27:30 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKj1m-00049G-BK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:27:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKj1m-00049D-9a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:27:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKj4r-0003xX-Ko for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:30:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKj1L-0005mp-SO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:27:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.20] (helo=relay.omnieng.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKj1L-0005mg-7z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:27:03 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay.omnieng.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DKj16-0001zo-LC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:26:51 +0100 Received: from fwd16.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DKj1G-0006Zo-00; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:26:58 +0200 Received: from HW1 (TcZP3+ZS8erWPnKKPdcZ8qwymuuSa5LEEt0vfd3xR-TRrzAE2FGboJ@[84.133.113.11]) by fwd16.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DKj1C-0LkmtE0; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:26:54 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:26:53 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1262829166.20050410222653@t-online.de> To: WE0H Mike In-Reply-To: <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: TcZP3+ZS8erWPnKKPdcZ8qwymuuSa5LEEt0vfd3xR-TRrzAE2FGboJ X-TOI-MSGID: 9e877742-2044-4596-b058-2a771766cb0c X-SPF-Result: relay.omnieng.net: 194.25.134.20 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SARE_HEAD_HDR_XID=0.103 Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) > How quiet is the band from 160kc-177kc? Nearly all frequencies covered 24h with high power txs. 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75433 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 20:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 20:39:36 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKjFP-0002du-UN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:41:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKjFP-0002dr-SG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:41:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKjHY-0004L8-Sq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:43:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKjDJ-0005sC-0f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:39:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKjDI-0005s3-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:39:24 +0100 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKjDG-0001j5-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:39:24 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050410203915.EJPA2892.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:39:15 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.83.230]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050410203914.DWLN16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:39:14 +1200 Message-ID: <001001c53e0d$64472bd0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> <1262829166.20050410222653@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:39:14 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.159 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Some O copy this morning Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050607040705090405080006" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050607040705090405080006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've sent two captures to Markus. 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Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:56:41 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKjTz-0001nI-Qi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:56:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3AKuRI5003848 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4259932D.4010407@genesiswireless.us> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:57:17 -0500 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> <1262829166.20050410222653@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1262829166.20050410222653@t-online.de> X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.045 Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit So this means there is broadcast transmitter splatter from 160 to 190kc with no quiet parts of that band?

Thanks,

-- Mike WE0H WD2XGI

Hartmut Wolff wrote:

How quiet is the band from 160kc-177kc?

Nearly all frequencies covered 24h with high power txs. 73 Hartmut

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32476 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 21:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2005 21:59:57 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKkVA-000Grs-Qj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:01:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKkVA-000Grp-Ml for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:01:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKkXJ-0002ln-BJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:04:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKkSd-00067g-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:59:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKkSc-00067X-L9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:59:18 +0100 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKkSb-00025j-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:59:18 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1e8.38f479d6 (16781) for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:58:59 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8.38f479d6.2f8afba3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:58:59 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.5 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Some O copy this morning Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob and Teo,

well done again! It looks like there was an hour of continuous propagation between the two of you, between 18:10 and 19:12. Nothing on AQC's or DRP's dot frequency - Brian's dashes on 922.450 were slightly above the Argo range. Overlay image uploaded to
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_10Apr05_overlay.jpg (68kB)

Sri for the blurring around 20:00, I did some short TX tests on 137.7 at the time.

Last not least, "efkaristo poly" to the SXV crew, for QSYing down again and thus clearing our Eu transmit segment from sideband noise.

73 and good luck

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34316 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2005 08:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2005 08:26:39 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKuHV-000GD1-E8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:28:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKuHV-000GCy-Bz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:28:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKuJo-0000eE-KV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:30:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKuF2-00076D-Hi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKuF2-000764-6w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:56 +0100 Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de ([81.169.145.166]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKuEz-0003ic-S1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.103.46] (p54867274.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.114.116]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3B8Pjsu011460 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:25:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <425A3511.6020501@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:28:01 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff Organization: BBS II Gifhorn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c53cad$a55447e0$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <42574335.70801@genesiswireless.us> <003301c53cde$ad850770$1101a8c0@w2ksn> <200504100852180104.1256D9F7@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <4258EA7C.9080609@wanadoo.fr> <003001c53dc5$b85ecf40$0500a8c0@charter.net> <599336053.20050410175319@t-online.de> <42596D6D.1010804@genesiswireless.us> <1262829166.20050410222653@t-online.de> <4259932D.4010407@genesiswireless.us> In-Reply-To: <4259932D.4010407@genesiswireless.us> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 81.169.145.166 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bbs2-gifhorn.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Crossing the pond with a Part 15 signal level (was WOLF sources) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Mike, WE0H Mike schrieb: > So this means there is broadcast transmitter splatter from 160 to 190kc > with no quiet parts of that band? the Band is full with Eu broadcast station. Have a look here: http://users.pandora.be/hermanb/Emwg/online-lw.htm Despite the high QRM I manage to captured VO1NA with 5w, traces of "WM" and a presumable trace of "NC". 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60918 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2005 09:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2005 09:49:13 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DKvXd-0005P6-LK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:49:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DKvXd-0005P1-JH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:49:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKvbj-0004UQ-BI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:53:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKvX1-0007Fq-Pb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:48:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKvX1-0007Fh-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:48:35 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKvWz-00046S-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:48:35 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 22797 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2005 11:48:26 +0200 Received: from miglanc.socrates.org.pl (HELO [192.168.1.39]) (sq5bpm@[194.181.189.2]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Apr 2005 11:48:26 +0200 Message-ID: <425A47E4.6000500@wp.pl> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:48:20 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1127949846.20050409224502@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1127949846.20050409224502@t-online.de> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=NO(0.973775) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of wp.pl designates 212.77.101.1 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: SP0PAPA on 137.7 ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Dear all, Little activity this weekend, I only made 3 QSOs using the special callsign SP0PAPA on Saturday. Due to obvious reasons, decision about using this special call has been taken in the last moment, a few hours before starting the 48h multi-band multi-QTH operation. One missed call I know is probably OH5UFO (?), I didn't copy his signal - there was a strong QRN during the day, although I saw some traces in on-line grabbers. Log for both operations (HF75PZK & SP0PAPA) is available at http://www.oppzk.poznan.pl/log/ . Thanks to organisers for allowing me to be active again on LF with a special callsign. Saturday late evening it was raining in KO02PF and probably because of that antenna started to arc, so the LF operation has been cancelled. Even though there was no rain on Sunday, antenna is still arcing somewhere - a path for the arc has been created :-/ I suppose this is some tree's branch, in a spare time I will go to the roof to see what's going on. If time permits, the next weekend I will be on-air as SN25ZCC. One station and so many callsigns HI. And I still didn't use my own call on LF ;) 73! Marek SQ5BPM SP5ZCC Scouts Radio Club WWYC#195 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9330 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2005 10:23:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2005 10:23:37 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKw6v-0004Bw-T7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:25:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKw6v-0004Bt-QE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:25:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKw4u-000LkU-Of for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DKw4W-0007Mh-LN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:23:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DKw4W-0007MY-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:23:12 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKw4U-0004HV-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:23:12 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050411102302013001d06le>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c53e80$6935d9c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:22:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 10/11 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040702090807010000070601" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040702090807010000070601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
TA enthusiasts

DRP visible from 0215 - 0600Z. Traces only until 0400 then solid O until abrupt fadeout. Best copy:

Nothing seen from AR last night.

Jay, W1VD


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autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040607070408060105020804" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040607070408060105020804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Mike and Laurie,

good news: The dash in your screenshot can clearly be associated with Lauries "Q", starting at 18:50 on 135921.22 Hz. Before that, there were already some bright pixels from the first AQC sequence, between 18:13 and 18:28.

So I guess this must be a new LF world record, at least in the field of "traces seen" - and a nice reward for your patience and persistance. Congratulations!

Full-size captues uploaded:
- Mike's original Argo: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/zl4ol_0is13592100037.jpg (109 kB),
- overlay on Eu grabber: http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl4ol_11Apr05_overlay.jpg (94 kB)

No traces from AR or YO could be identified this time, and the dots on 921.88 don't seem to belong to a Eu signal.

73 es best wishes
de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 11.04.2005 21:43:20 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt mcalevey@xtra.co.nz:

Good morning Markus,

possibly a few bright spots around 0.88 and 0.21 today?

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.206 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: YU7AR traces Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010303060401000908070401" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010303060401000908070401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Bob and Teo,

yes, there are indeed two dashes from "AR" at 17:38 and 17:54:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_11Apr05_overlay.jpg (89 kB),

good to know that Teo's cool antipodal superduct is still working ;-)

73
Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 11.04.2005 23:23:05 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt vernall@xtra.co.nz:

Markus,

Knowing that you found a trace of AQC in Mike's capture, I thought I'd send
my capture for analysis.

73, Bob

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1DLFJ8-0001Ui-1I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:55:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLFK7-0005s6-IB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:56:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLFGH-00012z-Ks for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLFGH-00012q-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:37 +0100 Received: from smtpout15.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.15] helo=mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLFGF-0000t3-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:37 +0100 Received: from aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412065222.LRWF18313.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:22 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412065221.ZSAE1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:21 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <425B7E2D.8385.3EC9F8@localhost> In-reply-to: <425A47E4.6000500@wp.pl> References: <1127949846.20050409224502@t-online.de> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.15 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: SP0PAPA on 137.7 ... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > Little activity this weekend, I only made 3 QSOs using the special > callsign SP0PAPA on Saturday. > 73! Marek SQ5BPM I saw your QRSS3 call on Saturday morning, but it was too weak to properly identify, and the odd callsign confused me. I actually wrote down a prefix of "SG0" and did not believe it, so I called "SM0? DE G3XDV". I also copied the last "A" of your call but again I did not believe it was part of the call as it was too far from the prefix!! Hope to work you next time. Mike, G3XDV -------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30402 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 07:39:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 07:39:47 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLG25-000BF4-0x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:42:01 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLG24-000BF1-UO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:42:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLFzv-000HmX-A0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:39:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLFzc-0001BS-Fn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:39:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLFzc-0001BJ-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:39:28 +0100 Received: from wnat.pyrotherm.co.yu ([62.108.119.150] helo=ns.pyrotherm.co.yu) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLFza-000117-Cv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:39:28 +0100 Received: from yu7ar ([192.168.11.30]) by ns.pyrotherm.co.yu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id j3C5KsY18120 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:20:54 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:39:32 +0200 From: YU7AR X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) Business Organization: pyrotherm X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153133241220.20050412093932@pyrotherm.co.yu> To: "MarkusVester@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <53.25549dae.2f8c500b@aol.com> References: <53.25549dae.2f8c500b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.108.119.150 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pyrotherm.co.yu X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: YU7AR traces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear Markus, many thanks for the screensots, and for yuor continual job, so many congratulations to both Laurei and Mike, for first G signal has been detected in ZL ! 73 and GL , Teo YU7AR Mac> Dear Bob and Teo, Mac> yes, there are indeed two dashes from "AR" at 17:38 and 17:54: Mac> http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_11Apr05_overlay.jpg (89 kB), Mac> good to know that Teo's cool antipodal superduct is still working ;-) Mac> 73 Mac> Markus, DF6NM -- Best regards, YU7AR mailto:yu7ar@pyrotherm.co.yu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30190 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 09:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 09:08:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLHQL-00061A-KJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:11:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLHQL-00060y-1y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:11:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLHOA-000FEj-PZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:08:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLHNX-0001Pj-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:08:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLHNW-0001Pa-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:08:14 +0100 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLHNV-0001R3-D7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:08:14 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (mx4.eaglesnest.net [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D52962400083 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:08:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3102 (wwinf3102 [172.22.158.29]) by mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2F902400082 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:08:07 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050412090807733.B2F902400082@mwinf3102.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <29354573.1113296887693.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.24.151] Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:08:07 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.157 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re. 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Many thanks to all helped. Mike and Bob for looking,Markus for the analysis, Alan for prop. research and everyone else for support and encouragement. Mike and I started this a year ago ! its been a long haul. Will keep on trying for a complete character, or three, perhaps.

73 Laurie.

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This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12842 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 09:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 09:37:30 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLHrl-000Ooi-Bz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:39:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLHrk-000OoN-JH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:39:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLHsy-0001Iw-DD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:40:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLHpc-0001Wi-6I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:37:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLHpb-0001WZ-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:37:15 +0100 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.146]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLHpZ-0001c8-7W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:37:15 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050412093703.SFXF21916.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:37:03 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.65.95]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050412093702.EMIQ4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:37:02 +1200 Message-ID: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29354573.1113296887693.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:25 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.146 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re. G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Congratulations Laurie, it has been a long haul but fascinating to see some progress. Just another few dB would make a big difference and I think there is still a lot of scope for improvement in Rx antennas. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 10:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 10:30:14 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLIgn-000CfZ-IB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:32:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLIgn-000CfO-4z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:32:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLIj0-0001Ox-4V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLIeK-0001gw-KF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:29:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLIeK-0001gn-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:29:40 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLIeI-0001td-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:29:40 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041210292601600aqfq3e>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:29:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c53f4a$70819f00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:28:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.64 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 11/12 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090608090007030606000009" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090608090007030606000009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Good signal levels from DRP early followed by rollercoaster QSB the rest of the night - an occassional bright white code elements followed by periods with no trace of the signal. DRP visible from 0030 - 0545Z. Best overall copy:

Looked hard for YO but no trace.

Jay, W1VD
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You make TA look like the village duck pond.

73, Brian CT1DRP
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41048 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 10:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 10:55:15 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DLJ35-0001ov-Cw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DLJ35-0001os-BA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLJ35-000F7e-7G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:55:15 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLJ2y-0001qb-Ec for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLJ2y-0001qS-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:08 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLJ2v-00023B-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 30576 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 10:55:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 12 Apr 2005 10:55:01 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c53f45$c2c1c7e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c53f4a$70819f00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:55:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 11/12 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070503020300020907020201" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070503020300020907020201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Similar results to Jay's last night, with one good DRP here around 0100:

John Andrews, W1TAG
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G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Many thanks Ed for path analysis. This is very interesting, especially the position of the auroral oval. 73 Laurie. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 66116 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLKh5-000OSO-8X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:40:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLKh3-000ORT-PH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:40:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLKjG-0000K2-6y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:42:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLKep-0002Cf-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLKeo-0002CW-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:18 +0100 Received: from smtpout19.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.19] helo=mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLKen-0002Wk-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:18 +0100 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412123811.WNXS2577.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:11 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412123811.MEMB1280.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:11 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> In-reply-to: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.19 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > Congratulations Laurie, it has been a long haul but fascinating to see > some progress. Just another few dB would make a big difference and I > think there is still a lot of scope for improvement in Rx antennas. > Mike ZL4OL Yes, receiving techniques still have a long way to go. In the back of my mind for development (when paid workloads permit) is a narrow beamwidth uni-directional antenna for receive. This should dramatically reduce noise levels over the conventional omni or broadly bi-directional antenna. There is also some work to be done on electrically steering the vertical angle of reception, either to boost low angle DX or to reduce high angle noise. We also need to understand the nature of the ionospheric noise that accompanies DX openings (Is it static or man-made? Is it from the ionosphere itself or just reflected by it? Does it come in at the same angle as the signals?) Another technique waiting to be developed is pseudo-synchronous transmit and receive. By that I mean something between QRSS (which is unsynchronised) and proper synchronisation using complex techniques that have so far failed to become popular. The fact that Markus could gain information from comparing the Tx and Rx timing proves this. With QRSS60 or 120, the synchronisation error could be of the order of a few seconds! There are probably some 6 - 10 decibels out there just waiting to be picked up! Mike, G3XDV ========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15934 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 13:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 13:41:51 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLLgF-000IUb-PJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLLgF-000IUL-Bx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLLhR-0002aB-GF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:45:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLLdc-0002P3-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:41:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLLdc-0002Ou-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:41:08 +0100 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLLdb-0002ol-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:41:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6A137A63 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C729D137A5B for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:41:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E75AED83 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:41:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:54:48 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> References: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.58.240.45 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fys.kuleuven.ac.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Mike, "TX/RX synchronisation" would reduce the time occupied by FFT by 100 or more (from several FFT/sec to 1 FFT/min). The "calculation power" that becomes available could be used to improve SNR. But How ? Here we need some smart guys. I think you are even a bit pessimistic about the synchronisation error. It can be reduced to 1/10 of a second or even better, if the PC clock is locked to a GPS source, DCF or similar. 73, Rik ON7YD >Another technique waiting to be developed is pseudo-synchronous >transmit and receive. By that I mean something between QRSS (which is >unsynchronised) and proper synchronisation using complex techniques >that have so far failed to become popular. The fact that Markus could >gain information from comparing the Tx and Rx timing proves this. >With QRSS60 or 120, the synchronisation error could be of the order >of a few seconds! > >There are probably some 6 - 10 decibels out there just waiting to be >picked up! > >Mike, G3XDV >========== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21038 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 14:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 14:02:49 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLM0Y-000OFy-3w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:04:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLM0X-000OFp-Ri for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:04:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLM2j-0003OO-Mt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:07:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLLyC-0002Wt-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:02:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLLy6-0002Wk-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:02:18 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLLy4-0002vX-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:02:18 +0100 Received: from jsm (unknown [209.121.17.203]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EFFEB8BC1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003501c53f67$e6439fa0$cb1179d1@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29354573.1113296887693.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:59:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 208.181.178.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of gulfislands.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re. G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Well done at both ends guys. This is all very exciting stuff! Steve / VE7SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 63902 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 14:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 14:08:59 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLM6V-0000Uf-F0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:10:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLM6V-0000UR-3b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:10:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLM8g-0007ba-Ub for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:13:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLM4M-0002bE-Ea for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLM4M-0002b5-32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:46 +0100 Received: from smtpout16.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.16] helo=mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLM4K-0002yk-NO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:46 +0100 Received: from aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412140839.WKUR928.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:39 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412140839.VCBL1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:39 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <425BE470.11467.1CE4090@localhost> In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> References: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.16 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Pseudo-synch QRSS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > "TX/RX synchronisation" would reduce the time occupied by FFT by 100 > or more (from several FFT/sec to 1 FFT/min). The "calculation power" > that becomes available could be used to improve SNR. But How ? Here we > need some smart guys. I think you are even a bit pessimistic about the > synchronisation error. It can be reduced to 1/10 of a second or even > better, if the PC clock is locked to a GPS source, DCF or similar. > 73, Rik ON7YD Rik, My point is that there has been a lot of discussion about locking to GPS, or Loran, or some other standard, and it has failed to attract any practical interest because it is more complex than most amateurs would like. An improvement could be made by simply making sure that the computers at both ends are within a few seconds of each other (for QRSS 60 or 120), and ensuring that the FFT software knows roughly when the dot period starts. As I understand it (and I know very little about FFT), this would allow integration over a longer period and remove the need for the sliding window that takes care of the randomly timed signals (ie we could have nice square edges to the Morse). Your 'QRS' software can already deal with transmission times locked to the computer. Perhaps there is someone out there who can comment on the receive side, Mike, G3XDV http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk ====================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37370 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 14:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 14:19:28 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLMGe-00042u-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:21:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLMGe-00042p-O0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:21:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLMIr-0006c5-4j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:23:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLMEL-0002hL-CG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:19:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLMEK-0002hC-UZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:19:04 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLMEJ-00035n-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:19:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 31047 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 14:18:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 12 Apr 2005 14:18:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c53f6b$f731be10$6801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <25499259.1113308557662.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:28:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re. G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Congratulations are definitely in order. Let's see...with two properly positioned holes in the ionosphere, and the Moon in the right place... Could it have been EME? John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 85214 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 14:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 14:33:06 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLMU6-000NwY-9M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:35:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLMU6-000NwP-4q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:35:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLMRt-0001lQ-JA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:05 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLMRa-0002mO-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:32:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLMRa-0002mF-IU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:32:46 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLMRY-0003B5-Pl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:32:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 82664 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 18:32:38 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by unix.dx with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 18:32:38 +0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:32:19 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <192949863.20050412183219@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> References: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 80.68.4.13 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of dx.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: new ?? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020303010507060205080202" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020303010507060205080202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LF enthusiasts, such signal is better for visual identification of weak signals 4(dash)/2(dot) or 6/2 or 6/3 for vertical pixels I have written the call one known LF enthusiast and that could RX other known LF enthusiast ;-) 73! 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Well done! 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35416 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 16:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 16:47:18 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOZk-000IMs-6H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:49:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOZk-000IMo-0N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:49:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLOXm-000EBS-4T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:47:18 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOXE-0003Kz-MK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:46:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOXE-0003Kq-AF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:46:44 +0100 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLOXC-0003u5-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:46:44 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.96.253b49f5 (4238) for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:46:33 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <96.253b49f5.2f8d5569@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:46:33 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5036 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.7 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Pseudo-synch QRSS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:09:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike.dennison@ntlworld.com writes:

My point is that there has been a lot of discussion about locking to
GPS, or Loran, or some other standard, and it has failed to attract
any practical interest because it is more complex than most amateurs
would like.

An improvement could be made by simply making sure that the computers
at both ends are within a few seconds of each other (for QRSS 60 or
120), and ensuring that the FFT software knows roughly when the dot
period starts.

This is pretty much the point of GPS-BPSK, which only requires time synchronization with the 1pps marker to achieve performance improvement. That's not at all complex, but thus far has not seen wide use. It would be nice to see it applied to QRSS, but will the "complexity" of inputting a 1pps marker to a computer be too great for would-be TA explorers? :)

John

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16176 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 16:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 16:53:14 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DLOdV-0008N5-QT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DLOdV-0008N1-Og for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLOdV-000GkB-MT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:53:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOdM-0003PS-MN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOdM-0003PJ-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLOdK-0003wc-IB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:04 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90025125 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:52:54 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID730JDLq136450X03 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.46.42.220] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 365JDLq110024M29; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:52:53 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.42.220 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <425BFCE8.9010004@usa.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:52:56 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID365JDLq120024X29 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) > "TX/RX synchronisation" would reduce the time occupied by FFT by 100 > or more (from several FFT/sec to 1 FFT/min). The "calculation power" > that becomes available could be used to improve SNR. But How ? Maybe, if the Tx and Rx can be brought into phase coherence (what about ionospheric effects ?) then the FFT could be replaced by techniques working in the time domain, like correlation and Wiener or matched filtering... maybe someone more expert than me on the subject would comment. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 482 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 17:10:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 17:10:40 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOwc-000COh-5S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOwc-000COe-2v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLOxY-0007i3-35 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:13:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOuC-0003W1-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOuC-0003Vs-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLOu9-00042b-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (144.254.224.150) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Apr 2005 19:10:18 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3CHAEvm006783 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:10:15 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zen.co.uk (sjc-vpn6-377.cisco.com [10.21.121.121]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15365 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <425C00F4.5040503@zen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:12 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <96.253b49f5.2f8d5569@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <96.253b49f5.2f8d5569@aol.com> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 144.254.224.140 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zen.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Pseudo-synch QRSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WarmSpgs@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:09:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mike.dennison@ntlworld.com writes: > > My point is that there has been a lot of discussion about locking to > GPS, or Loran, or some other standard, and it has failed to attract > any practical interest because it is more complex than most amateurs > would like. > > An improvement could be made by simply making sure that the computers > at both ends are within a few seconds of each other (for QRSS 60 or > 120), and ensuring that the FFT software knows roughly when the dot > period starts. > > This is pretty much the point of GPS-BPSK, which only requires time > synchronization with the 1pps marker to achieve performance > improvement. That's not at all complex, but thus far has not seen > wide use. It would be nice to see it applied to QRSS, but will the > "complexity" of inputting a 1pps marker to a computer be too great for > would-be TA explorers? :) For those on broadband, an NTP server will give the required level of accuracy. No hardware needed, just s/w config. Stewart > > John > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47042 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 19:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 19:15:57 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DLQrd-0002xy-8x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:15:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DLQrd-0002xv-74 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:15:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLQun-0003qg-1G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:19:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLQr5-0003uI-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:15:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLQr4-0003u9-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:15:22 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.90]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLQr3-00056u-EE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:15:22 +0100 Received: from pickmere.demon.co.uk ([158.152.117.143]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DLQr2-000MSB-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:15:21 +0000 Message-ID: <6VQZufB4VBXCFw8u@pickmere.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:37:44 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "M. J. Powell" References: <53.25549dae.2f8c500b@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <53.25549dae.2f8c500b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S () X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.217.242.90 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pickmere.demon.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: YU7AR traces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In message <53.25549dae.2f8c500b@aol.com>, MarkusVester@aol.com writes >Dear Bob and Teo, > >yes, there are indeed two dashes from "AR" at 17:38 and 17:54: >http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/Eu-zl2ca_11Apr05_overlay.jpg (89 kB), > >good to know that Teo's cool antipodal superduct is still working ;-) Shades of Marconi straining to hear the three dits! Congratulations to both ends. Mike -- M.J.Powell From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16624 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 19:18:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 19:18:25 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLQwF-000IpJ-W1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:20:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLQwF-000IpG-TS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:20:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLQyB-0006mq-Gs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:22:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLQtu-0003yN-2R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:18:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLQtt-0003yE-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:18:17 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLQtr-0005Cg-SM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:18:17 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050412191808.DLZO23939.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:18:08 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.131]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050412191807.VPWX8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:18:07 +1200 Message-ID: <000401c53f94$5b832c00$834036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c53f4a$70819f00$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:17:16 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.147 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: no copy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No signals seen overnight from NA or Eu. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41395 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 20:31:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 20:31:18 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLS4n-000A0v-Ao for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:33:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLS4n-000A0s-6f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:33:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLS5h-00069s-Rz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:34:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLS1z-0004E5-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:30:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLS1y-0004Dw-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:30:42 +0100 Received: from avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.159]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLS1w-0005dP-NY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:30:42 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050412203026.QZXY2892.avmta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:30:26 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.83.230]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050412203026.GURG4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:30:26 +1200 Message-ID: <000201c53f9e$802e0750$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29354573.1113296887693.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:30:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.159 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Nil this morning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, Nil to report in captures reviewed this morning. Congratulations to G3AQC and ZL4OL for the result from yesterday. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13729 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 20:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 20:36:32 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DLS7c-0000sL-9S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DLS7c-0000sG-6h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLSBm-00014X-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:40:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLS7T-0004Ic-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLS7S-0004IT-SA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:22 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLS7R-0005fr-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:36:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55F44BDBC for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709014BDBB for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:36:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D5380080 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:36:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 209-166.240.81.adsl.skynet.be (209-166.240.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.240.166.209]) by webmail2.kuleuven.be (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:36:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1113338168.425c31390202f@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:36:09 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> <425BFCE8.9010004@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <425BFCE8.9010004@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 81.240.166.209 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.58.240.41 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fys.kuleuven.ac.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hello Alberto, phase coherence maybe a bit tricky. I am not a mathematic expert, but just intuitive I would say that knowing the exact time of begin and end of a dot could be used to improve SNR. One possibility that comes to my mind : Assume * a series of dot sequence (let's say 5 = .....) * a dot length of 1 minute * each dot starts exactly at the full minute Now take one FFT every second, with the samples from the last 60 seconds. the subsequent FFT's should show a triangular wave that has a period of 2 minutes and is in phase to the minute rytme. Maybe using the right technique (kind of FFT of the FFT ?) one could detect this 2 minute triangular wave at signal levels that are to weak to bring up the dots with ARGO or similar software. Makes this sense or it is just a stupid idea ? 73, Rik Citeren Alberto di Bene : > > > "TX/RX synchronisation" would reduce the time occupied by FFT by > 100 > > or more (from several FFT/sec to 1 FFT/min). The "calculation > power" > > that becomes available could be used to improve SNR. But How ? > > Maybe, if the Tx and Rx can be brought into phase coherence (what > about > ionospheric effects ?) > then the FFT could be replaced by techniques working in the time > domain, > like correlation and > Wiener or matched filtering... maybe someone more expert than me on > the > subject would comment. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67857 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 10:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 10:28:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLf9U-000Nmy-DH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLf9U-000Nmq-5E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLfAK-00014k-Iy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:32:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLf5x-00060M-2B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:27:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLf5w-00060D-Gb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:27:40 +0100 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.158] helo=smtp1.freeserve.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLf5v-0008Bs-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:27:40 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (mail.juridica.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EAA861C00083 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wwinf3003 (wwinf3003 [172.22.159.30]) by mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DE9071C00081 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:32 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050413102732911.DE9071C00081@mwinf3012.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1974227.1113388052828.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> From: Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC To: RSGB Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.29.170] Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:27:32 +0200 (CEST) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.252.22.158 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of g3aqc.freeserve.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: EU/ZL Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
The Kp index is quite high so chances of making it down to ZL very very slight at present, so I will take a break for a few days. I will advise when I recommence transmission.

73 Laurie.

Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67879 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 10:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 10:28:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLf9V-000NnB-7v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLf9U-000Nn8-NK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLf79-0002DV-9w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:28:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLf6z-00061C-Vj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:28:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLf6z-000613-JT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:28:45 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLf6x-0008C5-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:28:45 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041310283001400hhamee>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:28:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c54013$70104d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:27:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 12/13 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020108020900010501030603" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020108020900010501030603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Solid O copy of DRP started abruptly last night at 2330Z. Mostly O, M copy throughout the night(except for occassional deep fade) until last O copy at 0600Z.

Nothing seen from YO.

Jay, W1VD
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Message-ID: <425CFD9F.2050608@usa.net> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:08:15 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> <5.1.0.14.0.20050412154826.02288930@u0019445.kuleuven.be> <425BFCE8.9010004@usa.net> <1113338168.425c31390202f@webmail2.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <1113338168.425c31390202f@webmail2.kuleuven.be> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID588JDmLik0410X29 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.31 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: How to easily cross the Pond ? (was : G3AQC in ZL) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Rik, probably your idea would work, but I think that if you can achieve phase coherence then the best technique would be to compute the two correlations between the received signal and what the signal should be in case either of a "1" or of a "0", then select the symbol that gives the highest correlation value. And. if you have CPU cycles to spare, which probably is the case for low signaling rates, then you could even correct for small phase errors by computing several correlation sums, each shifted by a few degrees, finding then the peak. And adding a convolutional FEC coding with a soft-decision Viterbi decoder would certainly be of no harm... 73 Alberto I2PHD ------------------------------------------------------- Rik Strobbe wrote: >Hello Alberto, > >phase coherence maybe a bit tricky. >I am not a mathematic expert, but just intuitive I would say that >knowing the exact time of begin and end of a dot could be used to >improve SNR. > >One possibility that comes to my mind : >Assume >* a series of dot sequence (let's say 5 = .....) >* a dot length of 1 minute >* each dot starts exactly at the full minute >Now take one FFT every second, with the samples from the last 60 >seconds. the subsequent FFT's should show a triangular wave that has a >period of 2 minutes and is in phase to the minute rytme. >Maybe using the right technique (kind of FFT of the FFT ?) one could >detect this 2 minute triangular wave at signal levels that are to weak >to bring up the dots with ARGO or similar software. > >Makes this sense or it is just a stupid idea ? > >73, Rik > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28157 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 11:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 11:10:30 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLfnS-0000i2-RT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:12:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLfnS-0000hx-IX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:12:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLflN-0005oR-Sa for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:10:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLflI-0006GE-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:10:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLflI-0006G5-CX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:10:24 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLflG-0008OJ-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:10:24 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.139.74 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 11:10:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c54019$5043ae20$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1974227.1113388052828.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:09:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: EU/ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Laurie, the present unsettled period is expected to last into the 14th then the goemag conditions should return to quiet. The Dst is quite "high", and I expect it may be worth starting again when the worst (most negative) Dst valure exceed -20. As we have observed before a "flat calm is not necessarily the best state for the highest signal levels. Good Luck Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia (at) btinternet.com Prop report at www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Mayhead G3AQC" To: "RSGB" Sent: 13 April 2005 11:27 Subject: LF: EU/ZL > The Kp index is quite high so chances of making it down to ZL very very slight at present, so I will take a break for a few days. I will advise when I recommence transmission. > 73 Laurie. 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In a message dated 13/04/2005 11:09:18 GMT Standard Time, dibene@usa.net writes:

Rik,

probably your idea would work, but I think that if you can achieve
phase coherence then the
best technique would be to compute the two correlations between the
received signal and
what the signal should be in case either of a "1" or of a "0", then
select the symbol that
gives the highest correlation value. And. if you have CPU cycles to
spare, which probably is
the case for low signaling rates, then you could even correct for small
phase errors by
computing several correlation sums, each shifted by a few degrees,
finding then the peak.
And adding a convolutional FEC coding with a soft-decision Viterbi
decoder would certainly
be of no harm...

73 Alberto I2PHD

I wonder if the new narrow version of JT65 would give us something to play with. Not the complete transmission bandwidth, but just the couple of characters that occur in close vicinity to the sync tone. I believe this uses a similar decoding algorithm and needs to be locked to within a second of the receiving station. I must read the help files again.

There is also a narrowband version designed for laser communication. However, even this narrowband system is still 10Hz wide for the full character set.

Both can use class C D E etc.

73

David
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20674 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 13:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 13:22:26 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLhr9-000CCF-Cy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:24:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLhr9-000CCA-5D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:24:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLhp3-0002Bo-IX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:22:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLhok-0006ch-Mq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:22:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLhok-0006cY-At for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:22:06 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLhoi-0000m7-PC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:22:06 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D4AF8 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:21:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.131] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:21:58 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.131 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg131.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID793JDmNV75533X03 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.46.39.147] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 318JDmNV40041M31; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:21:55 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.39.147 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <425D1CF9.4090207@usa.net> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:22:01 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID318JDmNV50041X31 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: How to easily cross the Pond ? (was : G3AQC in ZL) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > I wonder if the new narrow version of JT65 would give us something to > play with. David, I am by no means an expert of JT65, but, as far as I know, its coding takes into account the structure of the call signs of the hams active in EME mode, using them as an alphabet of symbols to search into. Probably the excellent ideas behind JT65 could be used for a new program, but I doubt that JT65 can be used as it is.... but of course I may be proved wrong, as often happened... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61354 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 14:03:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 14:03:15 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLiUe-000Pvq-Cj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLiUd-000PvX-Re for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLkEe-0000Y8-VP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:57:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLiRq-0006ka-Ey for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:02:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLiRq-0006kR-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:02:30 +0100 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLiRn-0000xA-GJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:02:30 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.c0.2661ebd7 (4560) for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:02:18 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:02:18 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5003 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.144.208 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: JT65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

In a message dated 13/04/2005 13:22:40 GMT Standard Time, dibene@usa.net writes:

I am by no means an expert of JT65, but, as far as I know, its coding
takes into account
the structure of the call signs of the hams active in EME mode, using
them as an alphabet of
symbols to search into. Probably the excellent ideas behind JT65 could
be used for a new
program, but I doubt that JT65 can be used as it is.... but of course I
may be proved wrong,
as often happened...

Hello Alberto.

I'm no expert either and I quite agree standard JT65 is too wide and the tone 'bursts' probably too fast for optimal use on LF.

However, I recall from the notes that come with the software that there is a mode which does not anticipate the EME sequence. This was introduced after several DX-Peditions found that odd prefixes and suffixes would not be accepted in normal operation. I understand you still have to send a particular number of characters, but it allows random message formats.

My thought was that if this mode was used and characters selected that occurred close to the JT65 sync tone, then the overall transmission may be narrow enough to try on LF.

Just to see if the idea of building up a message over several transmission periods with TX and RX both time synchronised could allow an evaluation of the technique.

Of course the current controversy on the EME reflector revolves around the present version of JT65 using a table of callsigns of active EME stations. Probably best to not add active LF stations to that database.

Regards

David

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17122 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLjcB-0004K8-Hj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLjcA-0004Ju-E9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLjcz-0002VT-Ad for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLjZM-0006vC-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLjZL-0006v3-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:19 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLjZJ-0001KS-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:19 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (unknown[204.127.197.128](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041315140501500h1hb8e>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:10 +0000 Received: from [24.63.207.117] by 204.127.197.111; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:02 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb lf reflector , LWCA LF Reflector Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:02 +0000 Message-Id: <041320051514.29483.425D3739000D40FE0000732B22070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.531 Subject: LF: Palstar ZM-30 Digital Antenna Bridge on LF? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, Just got the new (May) QST and saw a review article on antenna analyzers. The Palstar ZM-30 is rated for use from 1-30 MHz, but there is a footnote that states" "** Tunes 0-30 MHz. Usable down to about 0.1 MHz" The ZM-30 features a dds synthesizer with 10 Hz steps and can measure complex impedance. Has anyone tried one of these on 137 kHz? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77277 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 19:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 19:39:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLnkM-000DpZ-5p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:41:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLnkL-000DpU-Sd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:41:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLnj8-0008R0-PY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:40:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLnhX-0007Id-Bt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:39:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLnhW-0007IU-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:39:02 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLnhU-0002eU-OW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:39:02 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050413193846.ZWTX11967.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:38:46 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.37.172]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050413193844.EZCG22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:38:44 +1200 Message-ID: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" References: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:37:51 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.187 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: overnight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050204030402020306080208" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050204030402020306080208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nothing seen overnight except some traces, probably XDW, around 1020 utc. 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spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLoHo-0002w0-0A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:16:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLoHn-0002vj-59 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:16:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLoFO-0004qo-D8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:14:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLoFC-0007Ts-0q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:13:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLoFB-0007Tj-Lz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:13:49 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLoFA-0002uJ-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:13:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 31133 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 20:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 13 Apr 2005 20:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c54066$b3052d70$6801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:23:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Mike, > Nothing seen overnight except some traces, probably XDW, around 1020 utc. Were those traces in the 137.775 area where XDW is running? 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charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, Nil to report from captures reviewed this morning. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89132 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 06:36:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 06:36:33 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLy01-0006gw-0J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) John >Were those traces in the 137.775 area where XDW is running? yes, the three dots at the bottom are on XDW's dot frequency, about 137.7753 Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 74236 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 06:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 06:51:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLyEj-0009t0-Uw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:54:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLyEj-0009sn-Gc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:54:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLyCX-00040L-Lo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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Seems the dudes over at CKN are really bored as they have both 133.1KHz and a newer 124.0KHz channel running tonight... Both are presently modulating in anger as of ~0700UTC. A stereo trans-pacific beacon?

TIL is presently now 'off' as the conditions don't warrant the hydro...

73 Scott

Check the status of radio beacon 'TIL' in CN89lg at:
www.scottboxx.com/radio
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Traces of DRP visible at times during the night...despite poor condx.

Jay, W1VD
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with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM1i3-0000ep-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:36:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM1i3-0000eg-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:36:31 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM1i1-0005sB-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:36:31 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.18.203 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 10:36:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c540dd$bd345240$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c540db$56ba69c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:35:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 13/14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi Jay, Ah the aborption seems to have kicked in Brian as well....being an mostly water path his signal usually holds up longest. there are forecast to be some more geomag. disturbances today and tomorrow then it should go quiet again. it does not look as though it will take too long to recover as the Dst is only at about -40nT Thanks for the info Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: 14 April 2005 11:18 Subject: LF: TA APR 13/14 Traces of DRP visible at times during the night...despite poor condx. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7027 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 12:01:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 12:01:51 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM34r-000HkJ-2M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM34r-000HkG-06 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DM36s-0001Fe-Ew for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:06:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM321-0000rO-CV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM321-0000rF-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:13 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM31z-0006Av-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:12 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041412010401400hgb8me>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:01:04 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c540e9$7c284a20$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c540db$56ba69c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <000901c540dd$bd345240$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:59:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA APR 13/14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Alan Given the conditions, I was surprised to see anything at all from Brian! Thanks for the propagation update - will continue to watch for TA signals. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:35 AM Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 13/14 > Hi Jay, Ah the aborption seems to have kicked in Brian as well....being an > mostly water path his signal usually holds up longest. there are forecast to > be some more geomag. disturbances today and tomorrow then it should go quiet > again. it does not look as though it will take too long to recover as the > Dst is only at about -40nT > > Thanks for the info > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Rusgrove" > To: > Sent: 14 April 2005 11:18 > Subject: LF: TA APR 13/14 > > > Traces of DRP visible at times during the night...despite poor condx. > > > > Jay, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4983 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 13:14:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 13:14:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM4DW-000C1s-QL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:17:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM4DW-000C1h-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:17:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DM4BH-0007eR-S6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM4Ak-000110-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM4Ak-00010r-Ae for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM4Aj-0006Tf-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.12b.5b065c0c (17079) for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:14:05 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5003 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.3 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: LF and JT65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Forwarded on behalf of Andy Talbot G4JNT

Re JT65 and LF

Forgive the second hand posting, I cannot send directly to the group as my
EMail provider has decided to throw a wobbler and stop allowing any outgoing
email to radiate. Incoming ones still arrive though ! (perhaps the
tranmitting licence has been rescinded:-)

Anyway..
I have been looking into JT65, and its earlier incarnation JT44, in some
depth recently for use on beacons. It is very amenable to being generated
in a simple driver based around a DDS chip.

However, I don't think that JT65 as it stands, even in its narrowest
version, has a place on LF. It is too wide and the mode has been targetted
specifically at areas where frequency, and to a lesser extent timing,
uncertainty is appreciable such as EME, and does not make the most of the
stabilities inherent in the LF path. Coding issues notwithstanding -it does
allow 13 character random messages so the callsign prefix limitation may not
bee too bad if used sensibly.

Some years ago, Alberto introduced us to Jason, but even that is an
incoherent mode and doesn't make the most of the LF path. But if the error
correction capabilities of JT65, were used with a reduced synchronisation
vector allowed for by better frequency accuracy, and with the tone / symbol
spacing of Jason we may be geting something formidable.

BUT it is still incoherent.

In spite of Mike, G3XDV's reservations about the 'complexity' of GPS derived
techniques this is still clearly an obvious and straightforward way to
coherent signalling. Any individual can have sub microsecond timing for a
few tens of pounds cost, plus the effort needed to build a small amount of
hardware.

Dictating that any mode used on LF must be capable of interfacing with a
soundcard only, to all intents dictates incoherent modes and loses us the
6dB plus that could be recovered with a bit of effort.

BUt (again) there may still be a way to make soundcard / GPS simple
....

Some years ago, Andrew Senior G0TJZ wrote a chirpsounder monitoring prog
that took the output of a receiver to one side of a soundcard, and the 1 PPS
signal to the other channel. He also fed the NMEA data string from the GPS
into the serial port. Now, the computer could get timing to the nearest
second from the NMEA data, and then look though the digitised audio samples
of the right channel to get the time to the nearest sampling interval.
Using 8kHz sampling, the received audio in the left channel could then be
correlated to UTC to an accuracy of 125us. (In fact he managed a bit better
than this by various methods).   The software measured time of flight of HF
signals from chirpsounders around the world, at any frequency at HF just by
tuning an SSB Rx roughly to the frequency wanted, then informing the
software of the exact tuning point. It workd brilliantly, and gives a
great, simple, HF propagation tool showing the reflections from the
different layers as time progresses.   Do a Google search on G0TJZ

So, how about a dual channel signalling scheme, audio and PPS.   It may even
be possible to dispense with the NMEA data and use only the 1 PPS, provided
the PC clock can be set accurately enough.   GPS modules are cheap, simple
and easy to get going.

Andy G4JNT
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8544 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 14:26:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 14:26:34 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM5Kn-000JKM-8J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:28:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM5Kj-000JIs-00 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:28:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DM74P-0003Rh-Ba for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:19:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM5Hp-0001Ae-BC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:25:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM5Ho-0001AV-WA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:25:40 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM5Hn-0006t2-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:25:40 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 12439 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 16:25:33 +0200 Received: from miglanc.socrates.org.pl (HELO [192.168.1.39]) (sq5bpm@[194.181.189.2]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Apr 2005 16:25:33 +0200 Message-ID: <425E7D5C.8090407@wp.pl> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:32 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=NO(0.930533) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of wp.pl designates 212.77.101.1 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: LF and JT65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Forwarded on behalf of Andy Talbot G4JNT > > Re JT65 and LF > > [...] > > Some years ago, Alberto introduced us to Jason, but even that is an > incoherent mode and doesn't make the most of the LF path. But if the > error > correction capabilities of JT65, were used with a reduced synchronisation > vector allowed for by better frequency accuracy, and with the tone / > symbol > spacing of Jason we may be geting something formidable. > > BUT it is still incoherent.[...] Some time ago I sent to the group information about Olivia mode, which already uses an interesting error correction scheme. This mode could be possibly re-worked for much lower bandwidth and throughput, some extra possibilities of coherent reception could be added as well. Subsequent tones do not need to overlap as they do in original Olivia, if it's to be used with non-linear power amplifiers. One could also start with Jason and add the error correction used in Olivia... 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71393 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 16:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 16:09:41 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM6we-0000jn-Rn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:11:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM6wd-0000jF-0q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:11:55 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DM6uN-0005NT-Er for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:09:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM6tt-0001Mo-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:09:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM6ts-0001Mf-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:09:04 +0100 Received: from mailfe01.swip.net ([212.247.154.1] helo=swip.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM6tr-0007ey-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:09:04 +0100 X-T2-Posting-ID: 7tTLvD67BptoA2C1rjPWBw== Received: from [213.101.37.161] ([213.101.37.161] verified) by mailfe01.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.9) with ESMTP id 343485525 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:08:54 +0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.9.5]); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:08:55 +0000 Message-ID: <425E9572.7000405@tele2.se> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:08:18 +0000 From: Johan Bodin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.247.154.1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tele2.se X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: LF and JT65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Andy wrote: > I have been looking into JT65, and its earlier incarnation JT44, in some > depth recently for use on beacons. It is very amenable to being generated > in a simple driver based around a DDS chip. I don't know JT65 but I experimented with a micropower JT44 beacon on HF about two years ago. GPS time & 1PPS -> PIC -> AD9850 DDS. Maybe it can be converted to JT65? I will send the PIC code to anyone interested. 73 Johan SM6LKM -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 2005-04-07 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 83370 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 16:24:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 16:24:57 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM7AQ-000ENz-Vy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:26:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DM7AI-000ENX-7v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:26:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DM77l-0000vG-69 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM77W-0001Rs-Uw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DM77W-0001Rj-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:10 +0100 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM77V-0007iK-0c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:10 +0100 Received: from d4f8d8 ([212.248.140.1]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j3EGPqqL013331 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:25:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.9.5]); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:22:39 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c5410e$2d332000$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <12b.5b065c0c.2f8fc69d@aol.com> <425E9572.7000405@tele2.se> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:22:05 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 195.80.0.243 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: LF and JT65 + EMail problem sorted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hopefully, if this gets posted my email problems are now resolved (Server name had to be changed, and hadn't kept the bulk email giving instructions sent 6 months ago) SNAP - we've done much the same then, only I used the AD9852 DDS for a VHF beacon with an identical structure For JT65 all you need to do is pre-encode the symbols for your message using Joe's utility, then save the 64 symbols in EEPROM. Change the timing to the new symbol rate, any symbol counters and the sync vector. Looks simple enough, although I haven't done it yet. Andy G4JNT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan Bodin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF and JT65 > Andy wrote: > > > I have been looking into JT65, and its earlier incarnation JT44, in some > > depth recently for use on beacons. It is very amenable to being generated > > in a simple driver based around a DDS chip. > > I don't know JT65 but I experimented with a micropower JT44 beacon on HF > about two years ago. GPS time & 1PPS -> PIC -> AD9850 DDS. Maybe it can > be converted to JT65? I will send the PIC code to anyone interested. > > 73 > Johan SM6LKM > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 2005-04-07 > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 2005-04-07 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 2005-04-07 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25860 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 19:25:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 19:25:34 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMA0I-0001tm-Ar for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:27:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMA0I-0001tj-8g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:27:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DMA1F-00034P-UL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:28:53 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DM9xP-0001mx-KJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, Nothing to report from reviewing captures this morning. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80132 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2005 22:06:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 2005 22:06:26 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMYzz-0004xS-A1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 53573 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2005 10:41:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 2005 10:41:34 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMkmr-0002Uj-6x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:44:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMkmr-0002Ug-44 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:44:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DMkk2-0004U4-At for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:41:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DMkjI-0004Bg-6S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:40:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DMkjH-0004BX-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:40:47 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DMkjG-0001VP-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:40:47 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041610403901400h2a9pe>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:40:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c54270$f1217800$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:42:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.59 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 15/16 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080703080208060208000403" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080703080208060208000403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Traces of DRP visible from 0200 - 0540Z. Best copy of session below. Looks like things may have glitched on the best received string of the night (right) - all others appear okay. Note - squirgle just below DRP frequency.

Jay, W1VD
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+0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001101c54270$f1217800$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: T-storms... 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Loads of lightning building up over central France and the Low Countries...and Marcus's grabber has turned green...

http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm

Otherwise, very quiet day in Eu today.

Dave G3WCB

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:40:01 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DMvxJ-0001hL-8C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:40:01 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMvzs-000BmJ-0B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:42:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DMvzr-000BmG-UN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:42:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DMvxI-0004d4-Pv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:40:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DMvx8-0004yv-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:39:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DMvx8-0004ym-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:39:50 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DMvx6-0004E3-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:39:50 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050416223937.HBGY23759.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:39:37 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.197.190]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050416223937.IDIO22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:39:37 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c542d5$29a00f70$bec536d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> <000001c54207$2321f740$355037d2@mcalevey> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:38:46 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.144 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nothing overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No signals seen overnight here. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:57:32 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DN7T1-0002YQ-VL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:57:32 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DN7T1-0001fX-Mu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:57:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DN7T1-0001fU-KJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:57:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DN7T1-000Eh9-EZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:57:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DN7SL-00073e-9o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:56:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DN7SK-00073V-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:56:48 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DN7SJ-0003kw-5F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:56:48 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041710562901600hoense>; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:56:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c5433c$53843840$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:57:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.64 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.1 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 16/17 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080804070208040508090900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080804070208040508090900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Intermittant copy of DRP 0020 - 0300Z with better copy beginning 0300Z until fadeout at a rather late 0730Z. WX made a brief appearance around 0320Z although an occassional "bright spot" was noted before that.

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Hi All,

Came home last night to find top 10 feet of the tree that holds up the vert. part of my 136kHz antenna had come down !!!

So I will have to find another nearby tree and get a rope over it. No beaconing for a few days I guess.

73 Laurie.

Whatever you Wanadoo

This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:29 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNBVc-0003HE-WC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:29 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNBYY-000Fet-Ry for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:19:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNBYX-000FeV-1T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:19:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNBVW-00015l-MF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNBVS-0007Jt-Ss for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNBVS-0007Jk-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:18 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNBVQ-0004wn-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:16:18 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3HFBnLt020218 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:11:49 -0400 Received: from server (dial-126.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.126]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3HFGXrQ011166 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001c01c54358$8987f960$7e802ed8@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c5433c$53843840$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:42:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.46.129.246 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of hurontel.on.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: New to list Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello everyone,

I'm new to the LF list, having subscribed just a few weeks ago, and I've just

been "reading the mail" up until now. I've noticed that the bulk of the posts

deal with reception reports and propagation. Is it permissable to ask a few

technical questions about antennas, rigs, etc.? I'm currently building a big

receiving loop based on Steve, VE7SL's design and I hope to soon be able

to see some of your signals.

73, J.B. Weazle McCreath, VE3EAR - VE3WZL

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:55:20 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DND3I-0003l9-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:55:20 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DND6J-0007EZ-31 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DND6I-0007EU-Uc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DND3H-0006f5-VK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:55:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DND2v-0007XB-MT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:54:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DND2v-0007X2-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:54:57 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DND2t-0005ai-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:54:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 24130 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 16:54:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 16:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c54365$ddaa2380$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c5433c$53843840$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001c01c54358$8987f960$7e802ed8@server> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:55:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: New to list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >I'm new to the LF list, having subscribed just a few weeks ago, and I've just been "reading the mail" up until now. I've noticed that the bulk of the posts deal with reception reports and propagation. Is it permissable to ask a few technical questions about antennas, rigs, etc.? < Over a period of time, there is an amazing range of topics on this list. Questions about antennas, rigs, etc., are right down the middle, and nowhere near the fringe! Ask away. LF guys suffer from "seasonitis," a cranial condition that makes you believe that LF work can only be done in the winter. The signal reports you've seen lately are a reminder that the disease can be cured. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:19 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DND6B-0008CS-3j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:19 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DND8q-000L5A-KT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:01:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DND8q-000L57-IC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:01:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DND7S-0004R2-51 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:59:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DND64-0007by-89 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DND63-0007bp-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:11 +0100 Received: from smtpout16.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.16] helo=mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DND60-0005bs-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:58:11 +0100 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050417165759.FOFI3252.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:57:59 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050417165758.WIXW1280.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:57:58 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:57:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4262A3A1.2655.2585C71@localhost> In-reply-to: <001c01c54358$8987f960$7e802ed8@server> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.16 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: New to list Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > I'm new to the LF list, having subscribed just a few weeks ago, and > I've just been "reading the mail" up until now. I've noticed that the > bulk of the posts deal with reception reports and propagation. Is it > permissable to ask a few technical questions about antennas, rigs, > etc.? I'm currently building a big receiving loop based on Steve, > VE7SL's design and I hope to soon be able to see some of your signals. > 73, J.B. Weazle McCreath, VE3EAR - VE3WZL Welcome to the reflector. Not only are questions permissible, they they are practically compulsory. We have already made the mistakes you are probably going to make, so put your proposals forward and group members will help you get the maximum fun for the minimum hassle. 73 Mike, G3XDV http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:33 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNFxV-0006ee-H3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:33 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG0X-000AfH-G5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:04:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG0X-000AfE-DO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:04:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNFxV-0006qJ-1s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNFxK-0007tY-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNFxJ-0007tP-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:21 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNFxI-00064K-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 20666 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 20:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 20:01:15 -0000 Message-ID: <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:01:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, Could you please post BORLNDMM.DLL, which appears to be necessary to run the program? John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:34 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNFxW-0006eo-61 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:34 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG0Y-000AfV-02 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:04:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG0X-000AfN-Lm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:04:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNG1u-0005GO-RE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNFx4-0007tL-JO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNFx4-0007tC-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:06 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNFx2-00064B-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:01:06 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-29-130.access.as9105.com ([80.43.29.130]:2236 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DNFww-0001qK-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:00:58 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.47 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: RE: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Wolf, Just being initially curious because I have read all the e-mails regarding WOLF, I downloaded the ZIP file & extracted it. When I run Test GUI.bat or WOLF_gui.exe I get the following Windows error message, am I doing something wrong? **************** WOLF_gui.exe Unable To Locate Component This application has failed to start because borlndmm.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem ***************** Or should that file have been included in the down load? Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Wolf DL4YHF Sent: 17 April 2005 19:59 To: RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Any suggestions, test reports, etc are appreciated ! Especially interesting for me: From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:11 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGEY-0003fo-Ty for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:10 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHF-0000bD-Fg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:21:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHF-0000bA-DY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:21:57 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNGEY-000HAK-HC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:19:10 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEU-0008DC-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEU-0008D3-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGET-0006Cf-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.148] (helo=mx5.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DNGEG-00042z-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:18:52 +0200 Received: from pd902f51f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.245.31] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx5.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DNGEG-0002aa-7D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:18:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4262C4CB.9090907@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:19:23 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <005201c54380$9ef8af60$0500a8c0@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <005201c54380$9ef8af60$0500a8c0@charter.net> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.155 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi John and Gary, Seems I will have to check the program on a PC where Borland C was never installed, which can be done tomorrow on the QRL (during the lunch break of course.. hi hi ;-) I just tried to convince the compiler/linker to produce an exe file which does not require any run-time libraries. I have uploaded the new archive at 20:17 UTC to the mentioned website. Cheers, Wolf . John Andrews schrieb: >Wolf, > >Found BORLNDMM.DLL on-line. Now need CP3245MT.DLL! > >John A. > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:19 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGEh-0000ZO-Lp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:19 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHO-0000eB-9y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:22:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHO-0000e1-2K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:22:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGFz-000802-6T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:20:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEd-0008EX-DY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEc-0008EG-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:14 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGEZ-0006Ce-JP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:14 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050417201904.XPJJ11967.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:19:04 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.121.111]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050417201903.XBYH16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:19:03 +1200 Message-ID: <000601c5438a$bac7a0c0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c5433c$53843840$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:19:13 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.187 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_90_100=0.189,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Nil report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,

Nil to report this morning.

73, Bob ZL2CA
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:54 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGN0-0004RH-3Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:54 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNGMz-00040o-UC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNGMz-00040k-SP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNGRP-0001PO-87 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGMm-0008Sw-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGMm-0008Sn-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:40 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGMm-0006Gp-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 20333 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 20:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 20:27:38 -0000 Message-ID: <006701c54383$97bdc3e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <005201c54380$9ef8af60$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4262C4CB.9090907@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:28:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Wolf, OK -- will download the new version. Once the DLL's were found, the original ran fine: t: 24 f: 0.001 a: 0.0 dp:127.0 ci: 5 cj:235 WD2XES 12345678 - t: 48 f: 0.001 a: 0.0 dp:127.0 ci: 5 cj:235 WD2XES 12345678 - t: 96 f: 0.001 a: 0.1 dp:127.0 ci: 5 cj:235 WD2XES 12345678 - t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 4095 jm:489 q: 38.9 39.1 WD2XES 12345678 - t: 288 f: 0.000 pm: 8190 jm:489 q: 38.3 38.5 WD2XES 12345678 - Have not tried transmitting with the new program yet -- am using Stewart's original. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:16 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGRE-0004mD-FS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:16 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGUG-000FV6-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:35:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGUG-000FV3-GV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:35:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGSW-0003ao-8a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:33:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGR4-00005b-IM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGR4-00005S-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:06 +0100 Received: from smtp06.web.de ([217.72.192.224]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGR2-0006IA-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:06 +0100 Received: from [80.129.183.244] (helo=arbeits-pc) by smtp06.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.104 #268) id 1DNGQu-0006i9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:31:56 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:31:58 +0200 From: Michael Oexner X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1656819582.20050417223158@web.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michael.oexner@web.de X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.72.192.224 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of web.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: HP 3586C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi all, I'm currently looking around for an affordable used HP 3586C selective level meter. Any recommendations where to buy one (except for eBay auctions)? -- vy 73 + gd DX, Michael From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:39 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGg7-0003RM-Dd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:39 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGj9-000HpR-Lo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:50:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGj9-000HpN-Dz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:50:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGhP-0007sF-5z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:48:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGfu-0000CU-8i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGft-0000CL-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:25 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGfs-0006Ko-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:47:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 15069 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 20:47:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 20:47:22 -0000 Message-ID: <008001c54386$59acc260$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <005201c54380$9ef8af60$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4262C4CB.9090907@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:47:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, Receive operation seems to be OK. I tried transmitting, but the sound card output level is too low for my setup here. With SpecLab, Jason and CoolEdit, I normally run the "Play Control" slider at about 50%, for 200W from the transmitter. But with WOLF-gui, I can't get more than a few watts with the slider all the way up. Thoughts? John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:50:31 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGit-0004eF-76 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:50:31 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNF2J-0000V2-AR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:02:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNF2J-0000Uz-2t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:02:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNEzH-0003Ug-6x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:59:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNEyn-0007m6-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:58:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNEyn-0007lx-7f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:58:49 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNEyl-0005rt-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:58:49 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DNEyY-0002EZ-OP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:58:34 +0200 Received: from pd902f51f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.245.31] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DNEyX-0000Oy-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:58:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:58:31 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Greetings all, I have started working on a graphic user interface for Stewart Nelson's WOLF (Weak-signal Operation on LF). It is in an early development stage, but at least it does what Stewart's original console application did, plus operation in real-time using the soundcard (RX and TX). It still lacks some features (especially tuning aid and time-syn'd automatic operation) but maybe you'd like to help to develop it further. For that purpose, the full sourcecodes are included in the archive. There is no TX control signal yet, so you must switch your transceiver to TX manually, or use the VOX. More info, and a link to the software archive is at: http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html and will be updated whenever I find the time to work on it. The GUI variant uses the same command line arguments as Stewart's original version, so the WOLF documentation is valid for the GUI variant too. Any suggestions, test reports, etc are appreciated ! Especially interesting for me: - Does is work at all ? (especially the real-time operation, "Receive" and "Transmit") - If your PC is slower than 500 MHz, does the program show this error message: "Buffer overflow, lost X audio samples" (X something between 4096 and many thousands) - If someone out there uses MS C: I would like to know if the slightly modified WOLF core (WOLF.CPP) can still be compiled with your compiler, because I only use Borland C++ Builder myself Best regards, Wolf(gang) DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:53:09 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGlR-0002I3-N7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:53:09 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGoU-000Iw2-1X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:56:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGoT-000Ivz-Un for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:56:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGlR-0002Hi-8O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:53:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGlH-0000HM-N9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:52:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGlH-0000HD-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:52:59 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGlF-0006Mg-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:52:59 +0100 Received: from fwd23.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DNGlF-0002q6-03; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:52:57 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Ze0P-TZQQevMbeUPzHDsA1aWetDRkGLaSBiXZ9jkh0RfijKEkf3QcI@[84.133.72.41]) by fwd23.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DNGl4-260pfc0; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:52:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:52:45 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <926876092.20050417225245@t-online.de> To: Wolf DL4YHF In-Reply-To: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Ze0P-TZQQevMbeUPzHDsA1aWetDRkGLaSBiXZ9jkh0RfijKEkf3QcI X-TOI-MSGID: 306d9b71-fa65-44b2-86aa-1f3f77b84508 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, I tried it with an older soundfile. The decoding stops after the 3rd line and Windows XP wants to send a failure report to Microsoft. Hartmut > Greetings all, > I have started working on a graphic user interface for Stewart Nelson's > WOLF (Weak-signal Operation on LF). > It is in an early development stage, but at least it does what Stewart's > original console application did, plus operation in real-time using the > soundcard (RX and TX). > It still lacks some features (especially tuning aid and time-syn'd > automatic operation) but maybe you'd like to help to develop it further. > For that purpose, the full sourcecodes are included in the archive. > There is no TX control signal yet, so you must switch your transceiver > to TX manually, or use the VOX. > More info, and a link to the software archive is at: > http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html > and will be updated whenever I find the time to work on it. The GUI > variant uses the same command line arguments as Stewart's original > version, so the WOLF documentation is valid for the GUI variant too. > Any suggestions, test reports, etc are appreciated ! > Especially interesting for me: > - Does is work at all ? (especially the real-time operation, "Receive" > and "Transmit") > - If your PC is slower than 500 MHz, does the program show this error > message: > "Buffer overflow, lost X audio samples" (X something between 4096 > and many thousands) > - If someone out there uses MS C: I would like to know if the slightly > modified WOLF core (WOLF.CPP) can still be compiled with your compiler, > because I only use Borland C++ Builder myself > Best regards, > Wolf(gang) DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:07:39 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNGzT-00054E-HJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:07:39 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNH0s-00083m-2z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:09:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNH0s-00083j-0l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:09:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNH2a-0007Ca-8w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:10:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGxi-0000N8-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:05:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGxh-0000Mz-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:05:49 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGxg-0006Pt-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:05:49 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DNGxf-0002pH-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:05:47 +0200 Received: from pd902f51f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.245.31] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DNGxf-0003VT-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:05:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4262CFE2.3040603@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:06:42 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <926876092.20050417225245@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <926876092.20050417225245@t-online.de> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Hartmut, Thanks for the report - well I seriously doubt sending the report to MS will help.. :o) Before crash, can you look at the "buffer usage" indicator in the lower right corner ? Under normal conditions, it shouldn't go above 50 %. After the 3rd output line, the WOLF core starts some "deep thinking" during which the audio input is written into a large buffer. How large the buffer needs to be, depends on the CPU speed - and up to now I have only estimated the size from a few trial runs. GN all, Wolf DL4YHF . Hartmut Wolff schrieb: > Wolf, > I tried it with an older soundfile. The decoding stops after the 3rd > line and Windows XP wants to send a failure report to Microsoft. > > Hartmut > > > > >>Greetings all, >> >> > > > >>I have started working on a graphic user interface for Stewart Nelson's >>WOLF (Weak-signal Operation on LF). >> >> > > > >>It is in an early development stage, but at least it does what Stewart's >>original console application did, plus operation in real-time using the >>soundcard (RX and TX). >>It still lacks some features (especially tuning aid and time-syn'd >>automatic operation) but maybe you'd like to help to develop it further. >>For that purpose, the full sourcecodes are included in the archive. >>There is no TX control signal yet, so you must switch your transceiver >>to TX manually, or use the VOX. >> >> > > > >>More info, and a link to the software archive is at: >> >> > > > >> http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html >> >> > > > >>and will be updated whenever I find the time to work on it. The GUI >>variant uses the same command line arguments as Stewart's original >>version, so the WOLF documentation is valid for the GUI variant too. >> >> > > > >>Any suggestions, test reports, etc are appreciated ! >>Especially interesting for me: >> >> > > > >>- Does is work at all ? (especially the real-time operation, "Receive" >>and "Transmit") >> >> > > > >>- If your PC is slower than 500 MHz, does the program show this error >>message: >> "Buffer overflow, lost X audio samples" (X something between 4096 >>and many thousands) >> >> > > > >>- If someone out there uses MS C: I would like to know if the slightly >>modified WOLF core (WOLF.CPP) can still be compiled with your compiler, >>because I only use Borland C++ Builder myself >> >> > > > > >>Best regards, >> Wolf(gang) DL4YHF . >> >> > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:44:56 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHZY-0007tE-AI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:44:56 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNHaw-000Ed9-VI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:46:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNHaw-000Ed6-Sh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:46:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHZX-0007t1-Tu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:44:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNHY1-0000Vg-7N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:43:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNHY0-0000VX-SM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:43:20 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNHXz-0006ur-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:43:20 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.148] (helo=mx5.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DNHXm-0001JK-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:43:06 +0200 Received: from pd902f51f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.245.31] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx5.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DNHXm-00048g-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:43:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4262D866.2050302@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:43:02 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.132 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: WOLF WAV decode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi John, < sorry my direct response to you bounced, so sent again via reflector. Apologies to the group ! > Thanks for the info. I now got a crash when decoding a certain wave-file too, it looks like some un-initialized thingy somewhere (often a floating-point variable). But at least I am now able to trace this issue. I am still not sure about the output volume - does changing the "Output attenuation" parameter (same as -a option) have any effect ? One of the major differences between WOLF and all the rest is the 8000 Hz sampling rate. This may be not supported by some drivers. I will add the option to run WOLF at 11025 Hz too, because this sampling rates used to cause less problems with certain soundcard drivers. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:57:49 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHm1-0006Ec-BR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:57:49 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG56-000OWg-Bw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:09:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG56-000OWd-9b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:09:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNG2P-0005O2-BJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNG2E-00081t-Fs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNG2E-00081k-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:26 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG2D-00067e-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 23983 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 20:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 20:06:22 -0000 Message-ID: <005201c54380$9ef8af60$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:06:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, Found BORLNDMM.DLL on-line. Now need CP3245MT.DLL! John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:02:18 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHqM-0007Ji-LN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:02:18 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG9R-000PM7-E7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:13:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNG9R-000PLw-58 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:13:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNG6k-000852-6I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:11:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNG6f-00086I-3W for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:11:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNG6e-000869-OR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:11:00 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNG6d-00069C-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:11:00 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DNG6c-0006NF-01; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:10:58 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Th4Mu+ZHQelKrK5gIrIxlEUmMZjIsIAasDQ2b3P+7m4BS2CHheys03@[84.133.72.41]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DNG6R-17n7bc0; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:10:47 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:10:46 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1403625520.20050417221046@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Th4Mu+ZHQelKrK5gIrIxlEUmMZjIsIAasDQ2b3P+7m4BS2CHheys03 X-TOI-MSGID: 4c115f30-09aa-45fc-b49a-b60415037145 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.83 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Also necessary to run wolf is the "cp3245mt.dll". I found BORLNDMM.DLL with a quick Google search, but the "cp3245mt.dll" is harder to find. Hartmut > Wolf, > Could you please post BORLNDMM.DLL, which appears to be necessary to run the > program? > John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:08:28 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHwK-0003Yo-FU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:08:28 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNHz1-000IEE-SD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:11:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNHz1-000IEB-Q0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:11:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHwK-00054b-3j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:08:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNHwG-0000eW-NY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At the suggestion of Hartmut Wolf, WD2XGJ will be running QRP (12 watts) tonight on 137.7798 KHz. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:09:04 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHwt-00067z-T6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:09:03 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNHva-0002XE-Nv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:07:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNHva-0002XB-LW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:07:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNI00-0000dC-2o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:12:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNHv8-0000cH-MS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:07:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNHv8-0000c8-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:07:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNHv6-00070g-D9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:07:14 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1c0.26be48c7 (2519) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.26be48c7.2f943807@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:07:03 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.8 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000705020309000305020700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000705020309000305020700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Wolfgang, Stewart and LF,

thanks for this nice little program, this is fun! I started Wolf_gui two times on this computer, along with SpecLab. One instance for TX and one for RX, connected by an analog loop via the sound mixer, and including live band noise. There was instantaneous copy after 24 seconds, but I found the same problems which were mentioned by John and Hartmut:

- low audio output, but only when the audio file format was set to 8 bit,

- the RX program indeed crashed after a while. Before the crash, buffer usage was about 0.4%, afterwards it said 2919.0% - screenshot included,

- the nominal sampling rate issued to the DAC / ADC driver appears to be fixed at 8000, even if one tries to enter something like 11026.16 for the actual signal processing rate - which makes sense. Because of dependencies between different samplerates in the AC97 driver, I would however prefer to be able to set the DAC to nominal 11025 - would it be possible to let the user select the rate?

73 de Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 17.04.2005 23:06:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt dl4yhf@freenet.de:

Hi Hartmut,
Thanks for the report - well I seriously doubt sending the report to MS
will help.. :o)

Before crash, can you look at the "buffer usage" indicator in the lower
right corner ?
Under normal conditions, it shouldn't go above 50 %. After the 3rd
output line, the WOLF core starts some "deep thinking" during which the
audio input is written into a large buffer. How large the buffer needs
to be, depends on the CPU speed - and up to now I have only estimated
the size from a few trial runs.

GN all,
Wolf DL4YHF .

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<20050417201731.XBOB16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:17:31 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c5438a$7a6822c0$bc4036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> <000001c54207$2321f740$355037d2@mcalevey> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:16:38 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.119 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nothing overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No LF signals seen overnight down here. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:10:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHyI-00017G-7B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:10:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHN-0000dd-83 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:22:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNGHN-0000da-5t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:22:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHyH-00016u-P0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:10:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEc-0008EC-EV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNGEc-0008E2-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:14 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNGEZ-0006Cy-MJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:19:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 15407 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 20:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 20:19:08 -0000 Message-ID: <005a01c54382$67cc9f40$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1403625520.20050417221046@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:19:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I have found and posted the required files at: http://www.w1tag.com/files/borland.zip The program appears to work -- still playing! John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:29 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIDl-0000zN-C6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:29 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNIDl-0005iz-3c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNIDl-0005iw-1Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNIH5-00033w-CC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:29:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIDV-0000mq-1k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIDU-0000mh-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:12 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNIDT-00075l-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:26:12 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200504172225590120056mo4e>; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:26:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c5439c$a07c7f80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262D866.2050302@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:27:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF WAV decode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Wolf Illegal operation and shutdown after 1 successful line of copy off the air of XES. WOLF_GUI caused an invalid page fault in module WOLF_GUI.EXE at 017f:0040a429. Registers: EAX=c10ad974 CS=017f EIP=0040a429 EFLGS=00010283 EBX=00000064 SS=0187 ESP=0198fef0 EBP=0198ff00 ECX=00000005 DS=0187 ESI=00000008 FS=129f EDX=c10ad974 ES=0187 EDI=8195d92c GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: df 04 55 b8 dc 6c 00 d9 5d f4 ff 05 bc dc 8c 00 Stack dump: 00480236 00000064 00000005 004070a9 0198ff4c 00406f87 8195e480 00000ae1 d75e59a5 40e04b33 51757ee3 c1183783 00000000 c0c4f080 c68dbc6e 3fe41a83 Buf usage running 0.4% before crash. After crash buf usage frozen at 89607.7% Hope this info is helpful. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: LF: Re: WOLF WAV decode > Hi John, > > < sorry my direct response to you bounced, so sent again via > reflector. Apologies to the group ! > > > Thanks for the info. > I now got a crash when decoding a certain wave-file too, it looks like > some un-initialized thingy somewhere (often a floating-point variable). > But at least I am now able to trace this issue. > I am still not sure about the output volume - does changing the "Output > attenuation" parameter (same as -a option) have any effect ? > One of the major differences between WOLF and all the rest is the 8000 > Hz sampling rate. This may be not supported by some drivers. I will add > the option to run WOLF at 11025 Hz too, because this sampling rates used > to cause less problems with certain soundcard drivers. > > Best regards, > Wolf DL4YHF . > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:43 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIIo-0005AH-S7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:42 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNILW-000Lox-Di for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:34:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNILW-000Lou-BY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:34:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIIo-0002A1-Gl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIIc-0000sl-Si for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIIc-0000sc-GQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:30 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNIIc-00077Q-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:31:30 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005041722312301300khs9de>; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:31:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c5439d$5eb25880$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262D866.2050302@freenet.de> <000501c5439c$a07c7f80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:32:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WOLF WAV decode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Should have mentioned win98se here, if it maters. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF WAV decode > Wolf > > Illegal operation and shutdown after 1 successful line of copy off the > air of XES. > > WOLF_GUI caused an invalid page fault in > module WOLF_GUI.EXE at 017f:0040a429. > Registers: > EAX=c10ad974 CS=017f EIP=0040a429 EFLGS=00010283 > EBX=00000064 SS=0187 ESP=0198fef0 EBP=0198ff00 > ECX=00000005 DS=0187 ESI=00000008 FS=129f > EDX=c10ad974 ES=0187 EDI=8195d92c GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > df 04 55 b8 dc 6c 00 d9 5d f4 ff 05 bc dc 8c 00 > Stack dump: > 00480236 00000064 00000005 004070a9 0198ff4c 00406f87 8195e480 00000ae1 > d75e59a5 40e04b33 51757ee3 c1183783 00000000 c0c4f080 c68dbc6e 3fe41a83 > > Buf usage running 0.4% before crash. After crash buf usage frozen at > 89607.7% > > Hope this info is helpful. > > Jay, W1VD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wolf DL4YHF" > To: "RSGB LF Group" > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:43 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WOLF WAV decode > > > > Hi John, > > > > < sorry my direct response to you bounced, so sent again via > > reflector. Apologies to the group ! > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > I now got a crash when decoding a certain wave-file too, it looks like > > some un-initialized thingy somewhere (often a floating-point > variable). > > But at least I am now able to trace this issue. > > I am still not sure about the output volume - does changing the > "Output > > attenuation" parameter (same as -a option) have any effect ? > > One of the major differences between WOLF and all the rest is the 8000 > > Hz sampling rate. This may be not supported by some drivers. I will > add > > the option to run WOLF at 11025 Hz too, because this sampling rates > used > > to cause less problems with certain soundcard drivers. > > > > Best regards, > > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:39 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIMd-00062t-9Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:39 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNIPK-000MKN-RT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:38:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNIPK-000MKK-PH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:38:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIMc-00038G-SJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIM9-0000wx-LT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIM9-0000wo-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:09 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNIM7-00078z-Nm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:35:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 22626 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2005 22:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2005 22:35:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00aa01c54395$651fd420$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262D866.2050302@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:35:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF WAV decode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, Per Markus' suggestion, I tried setting the transmit for 16 bit, and the audio levels are fine. Since we aren't writing big .wav files, that's no problem. I believe that Stewart's version will accept 11025 Hz as a command line argument. Again, if we will be working from live audio, there is no issue about saving file space by using the 8000 Hz rate. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:49 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIwb-0005rw-CK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:49 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNIze-000DPS-Jl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:15:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNIze-000DPN-E0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:15:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNIwa-0002IM-QV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIwA-00016a-Ct for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNIwA-00016R-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:22 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNIw8-0007Hs-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:12:22 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041723120801400h6ujue>; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:12:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c543a3$1302ad80$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262D866.2050302@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:13:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.59 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF WAV decode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf Whatever caused the glitch earlier has not reappeared. I'm up to T:1152 decoding XES with no problem. One problem though...the program window won't minimize since I went to full screen view. I can send it down to the task bar and retrieve it...just can minimize it. One thing that would be handy down the road would be able to right click highlighted text to the clipboard. Just tried to do that to insert into this e mail but that function wasn't there. It's looking real good Wolf! Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: LF: Re: WOLF WAV decode > Hi John, > > < sorry my direct response to you bounced, so sent again via > reflector. Apologies to the group ! > > > Thanks for the info. > I now got a crash when decoding a certain wave-file too, it looks like > some un-initialized thingy somewhere (often a floating-point variable). > But at least I am now able to trace this issue. > I am still not sure about the output volume - does changing the "Output > attenuation" parameter (same as -a option) have any effect ? > One of the major differences between WOLF and all the rest is the 8000 > Hz sampling rate. This may be not supported by some drivers. I will add > the option to run WOLF at 11025 Hz too, because this sampling rates used > to cause less problems with certain soundcard drivers. > > Best regards, > Wolf DL4YHF . > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNJ6I-000582-HL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:50 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNJ90-0002ey-Cz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:25:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNJ90-0002ev-Ar for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:25:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNJ6I-0005ub-42 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJ6B-0001Gl-JR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJ6B-0001Gc-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:43 +0100 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNJ69-0007L5-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:22:43 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1dd.3b674bcb (2519) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1dd.3b674bcb.2f9449b7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:22:31 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.1 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Slower WOLF? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Stewart and Wolfgang,

thought I'd try to cheat WOLF into slower operation by faking samplerates, e.g. -r 80000 -f 22100 gives 2210 Hz audio at 1 bit/second. Looks fine on TX, and RX takes longer as it should, but somehow characters are garbled. Are there other timing parameters or limits inside the engine which do not scale with the samplerate, or could it perhaps be some buffer wraparound? Going faster (-r 4000 -f 1105) worked fine immediately.

Another possibility would perhaps be to use Wolfgang's audio tools (SndInput/SndOutpt) for mixing and decimation.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:44 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNK0K-0006v0-MJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:44 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNK31-0008c5-UM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:23:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNK2z-0008b7-6K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:23:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNK0G-0003Dz-JT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJzr-0001TS-7O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJzq-0001TJ-SB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:14 +0100 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNJzp-0007S5-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:14 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1f4.7ec96f9 (2519) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:20:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1f4.7ec96f9.2f945731@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:20:01 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.9 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Slower WOLF? - Correction Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
...sorry, my previous statement was incorrect: the problem is that the transmit buffer overflows at -r > 10900. When I generated a wolfx.wav at original speed and slowed it to fourfold duration in the audio player, I could receive it alright at -r 32000.

Markus

In einer eMail vom 18.04.2005 01:23:00 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt MarkusVester@aol.com:

Hi Stewart and Wolfgang,

thought I'd try to cheat WOLF into slower operation by faking samplerates, e.g. -r 80000 -f 22100 gives 2210 Hz audio at 1 bit/second. Looks fine on TX, ...

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:11:37 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNKnZ-000428-H9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:11:37 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNJ6f-0002Jz-3F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:23:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNJ6f-0002Jw-13 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:23:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNJ3w-0007fZ-SB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:20:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJ3o-0001CV-Dz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:20:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNJ3o-0001CM-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:20:16 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNJ3m-0007Jx-Gb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:20:16 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596F74C842 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:20:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:20:07 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID965JDqXuH1395X02 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.46.130.31] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 416JDqXue0160M38; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:20:04 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.130.31 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <4262EF26.40307@usa.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:20:06 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262B1D7.8080908@freenet.de> <004801c5437f$e86d1e20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1403625520.20050417221046@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1403625520.20050417221046@t-online.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID416JDqXuF0160X38 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.32 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >Also necessary to run wolf is the "cp3245mt.dll". I found BORLNDMM.DLL >with a quick Google search, but the "cp3245mt.dll" is harder to >find. > > > >>Could you please post BORLNDMM.DLL, which appears to be necessary to run the >>program? >> >> Am I allowed to give a hint to Wolf DL4YHF ? Compile the project with the flag "Build with runtime packages" switched off. You will find it by opening Project | Options | Packages. Then open Project | Options | Linker and uncheck "Use dynamic RTL" With those flags off, the EXE file will contain all what is needed for its execution. Of course, it will be bigger, but not that much... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:15:18 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNLnB-0007Tz-T4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:15:17 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNLpu-0003fT-Oc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNLpu-0003fH-Du for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNLqW-0005BX-1S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNLme-0001gG-Ga for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:33:21 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.157.4efcf2a3 (4254) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:33:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <157.4efcf2a3.2f94bcae@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:33:02 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.omnieng.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.207 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML=0.411,NO_REAL_NAME=0.285,TW_XG=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: wd2xgj QRP QRSS 60 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080200050607090704030801" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080200050607090704030801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Warren,

at least possible traces could be found in Nuernberg, peaking around 4:43 and 5:33 UT. Surprisingly, these occured much later than the stronger peaks from XES (3:26...4:05) and NA (3:33 and 4:15) - see saved grabber snapshot for a complete overview:
http://members.aol.com/df6nm2/testTA0504180700.gif (306kB)

Best wishes

Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

In einer eMail vom 18.04.2005 00:08:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt k2ors@comcast.net:

At the suggestion of Hartmut Wolf, WD2XGJ will be running QRP (12 watts) tonight on 137.7798 KHz.

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08:47:16 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNQyS-0001Xr-Pm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:47:16 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNR1W-000JaL-Nx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:50:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNR19-000JQp-3d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:50:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNShd-0002wz-TW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:38:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNQxq-0002Fr-E9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:46:38 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with 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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Warren,

looks I was carried away by wishful thinking this time: carefully reading your mail again showed that the "traces" on 137780.0 were 0.2 Hz off frequency :-(

Excuses to the group for my premature posting.

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 18.04.2005 09:34:27 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt MarkusVester@aol.com:

at least possible traces could be found in Nuernberg, peaking around 4:43 and 5:33 UT.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNTJC-00057y-De for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:50 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNTLx-0009PB-JC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:19:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNTLx-0009P0-CD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:19:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNTJA-0001TA-Vm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNTIa-0002S9-E1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNTIa-0002S0-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:12 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNTIY-0000zj-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:12 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005041810160301200528hhe>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:16:03 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c543ff$cc864440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:17:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010502050800090204050801" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010502050800090204050801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Similar results to the previous night. DRP M copy from 0030 - 0230Z, solid O copy thereafter through fadeout at 0630Z. Slight traces of WX.

Jay, W1VD
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(Exim 4.43) id 1DNTiG-00016K-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:47 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (rsgb?lf?group@blacksheep.org@81.153.142.154 with poptime) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2005 10:42:37 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVD/7wD+1sGwpwpTZ+z0CFVL0dCGwAA1RPg In-Reply-To: <001c01c543ff$cc864440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.198 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.003,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Message-Id: Subject: RE: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090309000903070401030707" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090309000903070401030707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Oh dear Jay..

This message tripped the Spam filter at my ISP (note the [SPAM] in the subject line). First time I've had it do that on a reflector posting maybe the subject line is too esoteric for it?

Dave G3YXM.

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove
Sent: 18 April 2005 11:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18

Similar results to the previous night. DRP M copy from 0030 - 0230Z, solid O copy thereafter through fadeout at 0630Z. Slight traces of WX.

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(Exim 4.43) id 1DNUqF-0001NU-Ht for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:55:05 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050418115450014005nq6je>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:54:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c5440d$9c798380$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:56:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave Interesting...I've been posting TA results exactly the same way for quite a while now. Maybe the filter spotted a reoccurring string and decided it didn't like anymore? Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: RE: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18 > Oh dear Jay.. > > This message tripped the Spam filter at my ISP (note the [SPAM] in the > subject line). First time I've had it do that on a reflector posting maybe > the subject line is too esoteric for it? > > Dave G3YXM. > > > _____ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove > Sent: 18 April 2005 11:17 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: [-SPAM-] LF: TA APR 17/18 > > > Similar results to the previous night. DRP M copy from 0030 - 0230Z, solid > O copy thereafter through fadeout at 0630Z. Slight traces of WX. > > > > Jay, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:19:45 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNX6H-0007b2-Gq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:19:45 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNVPP-000Bjw-2D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNVPO-000Bjt-Vh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:23 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNVMb-00007h-Vd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:28:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNVMH-0002n7-VU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:28:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNVMH-0002my-GX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:28:09 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNVME-0001Vv-WD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:28:09 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DNVME-00023I-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:28:06 +0200 Received: from www10.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.203]) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DNVME-00024D-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:28:06 +0200 Received: from www-data by www10.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DNVMD-00077r-V2 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:28:06 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 213.182.126.154 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:28:05 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.003,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.832 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageHi Alberto,

Thanks for the note - yes, that's what I thought i did, but in fact I only had the VCL statically linked. The last "late-night-build" already has *all* libraries linked statically, which made the file size grow from 450 to about 650 kByte - not too much, indeed.

I have tested the latest version on an old Win98 machine on the QRL, which has never been "infected" with the Borland Compiler, and here (on this machine) the decoder crashes after the 3rd ouput line (in soundcard mode). On my home PC (with WinXP), it did not ..

To Markus: The soundcard routine in the 'alpha' version of the WOLF GUI doesn't look at the sampling rate specified in the config. I will replace it soon, so the program automatically uses a standard sampling rate which is closest to the specified value. Furthermore, the bit rate (now 10 bit/sec) can be made adjustable too.

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF

--- original Nachricht Ende ----

>Also necessary to run wolf is the "cp3245mt.dll". I found BORLNDMM.DLL >with a quick Google search, but the "cp3245mt.dll" is harder to >find. > > > >>Could you please post BORLNDMM.DLL, which appears to be necessary to run the >>program? >> >> Am I allowed to give a hint to Wolf DL4YHF ? Compile the project with the flag "Build with runtime packages" switched off. You will find it by opening Project | Options | Packages. Then open Project | Options | Linker and uncheck "Use dynamic RTL" With those flags off, the EXE file will contain all what is needed for its execution. Of course, it will be bigger, but not that much... 73 Alberto I2PHD
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:14 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNXLG-0004u1-Pr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNXO2-000BEn-TH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:38:07 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNXO2-000BEZ-I0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:38:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNXMb-0001Ek-FE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:36:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNXKx-00037t-NE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNXKx-00037k-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNXKv-00020K-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DNXKv-0007Db-00; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:34:53 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Efrvc2ZToerBhhGVY3bHg2LAu+9ki7jALMSh01ixR2Cj8sQdBXOqEo@[84.133.123.252]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DNXKr-0M10m80; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:34:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:34:43 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11910162316.20050418163443@t-online.de> To: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ In-Reply-To: <041720052208.715.4262DE430006CEEA000002CB22007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> References: <041720052208.715.4262DE430006CEEA000002CB22007348300B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Efrvc2ZToerBhhGVY3bHg2LAu+9ki7jALMSh01ixR2Cj8sQdBXOqEo X-TOI-MSGID: 1bea1764-1709-4718-8c7d-5a54a1a41ce4 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.81 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: wd2xgj QRP QRSS 60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Warren, > At the suggestion of Hartmut Wolf, WD2XGJ will be running QRP (12 > watts) tonight on 137.7798 KHz. > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ > FN42hi I found some faint unreadable traces on 137.77965 kHz around 0100z and there seems to be a faint "J" starting 0330z. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:12:36 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNYrU-0003bb-OB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:12:36 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNYuI-0005Ke-Nt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:15:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNYuI-0005Kb-LF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:15:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNab9-0005r2-SM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:03:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNYqi-0003IS-3w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:11:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNYqh-0003IJ-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:11:47 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNYqd-0002SI-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:11:47 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-232.fen-net.de [212.204.117.112]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IGA4qc020405 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:10:05 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001c01c54431$8f6563c0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:13:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear friends,

         DI2AG is now transmitting in DFCW3. The lower frequency is the dash, the higher is the dot. Text is "DI2AG JN59NO W5 DFCW3" ( takes about 5 minutes ).

The same text as CW-identification. Tonight the power will be increased to 3W ERP beginning at 22z, ending at 9z. And I will transmit "AG" in DFCW30 only.

Please send your report / screenshot to DI2AG@fen-net.de

73    Walter    DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:14:36 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNYtP-00055p-Uk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:14:35 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNXCt-000PIU-Sr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:26:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNXCt-000PIP-Hc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:26:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNX9j-000174-Lj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:23:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNX9G-00032y-Ul for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:22:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNX9G-00032p-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:22:50 +0100 Received: from dx.ru ([80.68.4.13] helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNX9E-0001wk-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:22:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 53002 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2005 18:22:40 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by unix.dx with SMTP; 18 Apr 2005 18:22:40 +0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:22:16 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <338713129.20050418182216@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <425280F4.1090206@att.net> References: <000c01c539c9$bb1a4d40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <425280F4.1090206@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 80.68.4.13 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of dx.ru X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: 80 years today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) LF enthusiasts, "Since (April 18) 1925, the IARU has been instrumental in coordinating and representing Amateur Radio to the world" http://www.iaru.org/rel050412.html 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:26:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNZ4w-0006hD-1Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:26:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNZ6j-000NfF-4O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:28:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNZ6i-000NfA-RR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:28:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNZ3X-0000y8-V0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:25:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNZ3J-0003NX-Ln for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:24:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNZ3J-0003NO-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:24:49 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNZ3I-0002WK-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:24:49 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-232.fen-net.de [212.204.117.112]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IGNA4k022490 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:23:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <003001c54433$6384de00$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:26:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
What I forgot in the previous mail: The two frequencies are 2Hz apart.

Pse excuse.

73   Walter

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:44 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNaxI-0007Ti-7q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:44 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNaxH-0002HL-W6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNaxH-0002HH-TQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:43 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNb0d-0004e9-Ss for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:30:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNawk-0003an-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNawk-0003ae-7R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:10 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNawi-00032c-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:26:10 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.191.3d8b3437 (4254) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <191.3d8b3437.2f9555b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:56 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.204 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Walter,

ufb reception of your "inverted" DFCW signal across 39980 km long path ;-) My frequency measurement says 440036.22 dash, 440038.05 Hz dot and CW. There are no gaps within the characters.

73 and good MF DX

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNdfS-0003qn-P8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNdiI-000J70-HV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:23:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNdiI-000J6x-Ex for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:23:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNdfS-0007PM-8F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNdew-0003oe-SC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNdew-0003oV-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:58 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNdev-0003u8-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:58 +0100 Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DNdet-0000sM-01; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:19:55 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SsUEPUZVweXGXiQnbzdUyUOFm1dVuEvO00bNAqPZA7BiBFlTgsmnUD@[84.133.123.252]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DNdei-1lgrZo0; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:19:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:19:40 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1726289654.20050418231940@t-online.de> To: "dl4yhf@freenet.de" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SsUEPUZVweXGXiQnbzdUyUOFm1dVuEvO00bNAqPZA7BiBFlTgsmnUD X-TOI-MSGID: 7f26bc4d-63ae-403b-bf47-e080b7eda1e0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, the GUI for WOLF works great now. I tested the new version with the wav-file recorded last night of the WD2XES transmission. Thanks! 73 Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:05:01 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNeMX-0005Tm-4I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:05:01 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNePj-000Ht2-CC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:08:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNePi-000Hsm-Nn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:08:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNeMV-0004Pi-NA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:04:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNeMI-0003vV-Gh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:04:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNeMI-0003vM-6S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:04:46 +0100 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNeMF-00044d-OB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:04:46 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.155.4ef569b9 (4254) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <155.4ef569b9.2f9588f2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:04:34 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.38 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: DI2AG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Walter again,

fb "AG" in 30s DFCW; frequency has drifted downward slightly, now 440 kHz +36.09 / 37.90 Hz dash/dot.

73 de Markus
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:35:10 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNepi-0007ok-4F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:35:10 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNesv-000NNA-1B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:38:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNesu-000NN7-Uh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:38:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNeph-00043N-Ny for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:35:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNepM-00041I-CK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:34:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNepM-000419-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:34:48 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNepK-0004D6-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:34:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 28348 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2005 22:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2005 22:34:38 -0000 Message-ID: <003201c5445e$805fbe20$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:35:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: XES WOLF 137.441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES is running in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. All reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:46:38 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNf0o-0005jr-N6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:46:38 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNf3f-000AP1-2r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:49:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNf3e-000AOp-Or for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:49:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNf0o-0007O7-2k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:46:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNf0G-00046Z-1N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) What is the link for the latest version so I can download it? Thank you, -- Mike WE0H WD2XGI Hartmut Wolff wrote: >Wolf, >the GUI for WOLF works great now. I tested the new version with the >wav-file recorded last night of the WD2XES transmission. > >Thanks! > >73 >Hartmut > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:49 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNfVx-0005iM-BX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:49 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNfYn-000GSC-Uy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:21:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNfYn-000GS9-NT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:21:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNfVw-0007kP-Qt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNfVn-0004Hl-P7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNfVn-0004Hc-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:39 +0100 Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.205]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNfVl-0004Oq-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:18:39 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1c4.268daac5 (4254) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:18:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.268daac5.2f959a44@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:18:28 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.205 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Mike, I got it from http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html .

73 de Markus

In einer eMail vom 19.04.2005 01:12:24 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt we0h@genesiswireless.us:

What is the link for the latest version so I can download it?

Thank you,

--
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:17:48 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNm3Q-0006Mu-4N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:17:48 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNm6f-000PTh-SN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:21:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNm6f-000PTe-OQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:21:09 +0100 Received: from pih-mxlast02.plus.net ([212.159.6.18]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNm3P-0005FC-AM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:17:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxlast02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DNgIj-0001FF-C1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:09:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNgDF-0004S6-Ds for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:03:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNgDE-0004Rx-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:03:32 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNgDD-0004Xb-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:03:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3J03AFH005491 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:03:10 -0500 Message-ID: <42644B44.1060106@genesiswireless.us> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:05:24 -0500 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c4.268daac5.2f959a44@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1c4.268daac5.2f959a44@aol.com> X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.045 Subject: Re: LF: Graphic user interface for WOLF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thank you Markus.

Mike

MarkusVester wrote:

Mike, I got it from http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html .

73 de Markus

In einer eMail vom 19.04.2005 01:12:24 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt we0h

What is the link for the latest version so I can download it?

Thank you,

--
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNqJW-0007qi-S3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:50:42 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNptp-000B0G-Oq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:24:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNptd-000Avn-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNpqL-0000Jz-09 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNpph-0005f3-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:19:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNppg-0005eu-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:19:52 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.202.59]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNppe-0006co-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:19:52 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041910194401400h43k1e>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:19:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c544c9$75468bc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:20:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.59 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 18/19 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020708080700060604020108" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020708080700060604020108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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szdmcj1/Z2HC0teQ41ozwWrD6FdY4CWRSfeoOrulpa8stSWlpaWhCWlpaWhC/9k= --------------020708080700060604020108-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:41 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNtS1-0002yJ-Am for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:41 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNtUw-000N5e-J9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:14:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNtUw-000N5W-9L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:14:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNtRz-0007YC-Ry for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNtRO-0006Ax-Oe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNtRO-0006Ao-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:02 +0100 Received: from smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.14]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNtRN-0007lE-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:02 +0100 Received: from tnt-13-226.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.226] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1DNtRL-000Kwu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:11:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c544ea$07cae2a0$e21686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:20:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.135.6.14 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: XDW on "Alien space invader mode" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Laurence > XDW on 137.7752/137.7756 Khz DFCW dot 90 - Dash High > > Dot is being swept from 137.7752 to 137.7755 KHz and back at a rate of 3 > sec per "cycle" > In the early days of QRSS I was using an analogue signal generator as a driver. This was somehow frequency modulated so that the frequency varied up and down during key down. This had the effect of causing the dots and dashes on the readout to look like worms - much ridiculed at the time but it made for a very identifiable signal under marginal conditions. Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:44:33 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNye9-0004yp-At for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:44:33 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNyh5-000N6s-Ay for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:47:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNyh5-000N6k-1W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:47:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNye6-0005t7-LJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:44:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNydT-0006mQ-O0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:43:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNydT-0006mH-E2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:43:51 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNydP-0000gy-Gr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:43:51 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050419194332.OLAL11967.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:43:32 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.80.63]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050419194332.VNKD16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:43:32 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c54518$0eea87b0$3f5037d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> <000001c54207$2321f740$355037d2@mcalevey> <000001c542d5$29a00f70$bec536d2@mcalevey> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:42:34 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.187 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: nothing overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Very heavy QRN so I did not monitor overnight. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:34 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNznm-000584-3Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:34 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNznl-0007YL-QJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNznl-0007YI-Lo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNznl-00057d-Fm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNznK-0006y9-Lq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNznK-0006y0-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:06 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNznI-00017u-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:58:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 10769 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2005 20:58:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 19 Apr 2005 20:58:01 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c54523$f50da050$7e01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:08:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: XES WOLF 137.441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) WD2XES will be running again in WOLF mode tonight, from 2230 until 0200 UTC on 137.441 kHz (note early stop time). John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:31 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0Ih-0008GS-Rk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:31 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO0Lg-000PJw-HP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO0Lg-000PJr-BP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0Ih-0004SH-96 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0IU-00074h-TN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0IU-00074Y-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:18 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0IT-0001Fw-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:18 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DO0IG-00037k-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:30:04 +0200 Received: from pd902ffb0.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.255.176] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DO0IG-0002g6-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: <42657856.3060300@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:29:58 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.132 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF user interface again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Greetings all, Thanks to everyone for the response to the WOLF user interface, either directly or via reflector. There seems to be a slight problem in the decoder when the input signals are very weak, causing an uninitialized variable to act as a negative index into an array -> result "crash, bang, boom" (more info will be sent to Stewart later). So for now, please switch back to the console variant until we have sorted it out... 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:32 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0c4-0007L1-4e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:32 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DO0c3-0007JN-Lw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DO0c3-0007J5-IN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0c3-0004mD-7h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0br-0007Bs-8X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0bq-0007Bj-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:18 +0100 Received: from bay102-f15.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.25] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0bm-0001Kf-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:50:18 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:50:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:50:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <000401c544ea$07cae2a0$e21686d4@erica> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:50:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2005 21:50:07.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[C08CB630:01C54529] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.25 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: RE: LF: Re: XDW on "Alien space invader mode" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Its interesting to see how Argo places a fast swept signal into various "bins". You would have thought that the carrier density (If Im allowed to use that word) spread time would produce a far more broken and diffuse pattern; in reality dependant on sweep speed it will cause Argo to brighten up various lines but still produce enough visualisation to improve detection overall(?) The faster the sweep rate the more lines between sweep limits.. Dependant on fade or noise at that instance my general impression is that it does -and certainly as you say Peter aid to detection - but I think worms, sine, triangular and other blimps are better that just straight lines! I cant get my synth to sweep 0.4Hz over 120 secs or longer at the moment but Ill have a look at the DDS solution. Laurence >From: "g3ldo" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: Re: XDW on "Alien space invader mode" >Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:20:23 +0100 > > > >Hi Laurence > > > XDW on 137.7752/137.7756 Khz DFCW dot 90 - Dash High > > > > Dot is being swept from 137.7752 to 137.7755 KHz and back at a rate of >3 > > sec per "cycle" > > > >In the early days of QRSS I was using an analogue signal generator as a >driver. This was somehow frequency modulated so that the frequency varied >up >and down during key down. This had the effect of causing the dots and >dashes >on the readout to look like worms - much ridiculed at the time but it made >for a very identifiable signal under marginal conditions. > >Peter G3LDO > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:59 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0iI-0002RO-V7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:59 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO0lH-0005na-Q9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:00:03 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO0lH-0005nX-Li for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:00:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO0jm-00064B-Q5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:58:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0i8-0007GB-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO0i7-0007G2-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:47 +0100 Received: from mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.119]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO0i5-0001MI-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:47 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050419215638.CWHR5260.mta208-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:38 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.121.111]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050419215637.ESPL4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:37 +1200 Message-ID: <003001c5452a$b20b5fc0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <155.4ef569b9.2f9588f2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:50 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.119 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Nil to report this morning Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,

Nil to report this morning, except what seems to be local QRM (went on some time after sunrise).

73, Bob ZL2CA
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:56:55 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO1eJ-0003S8-GS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:56:55 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DO1eJ-0007Ay-98 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:56:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DO1eJ-0007At-5V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:56:55 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO1eJ-0003Rq-1R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:56:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO1dC-0007S4-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:55:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO1dC-0007Rv-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:55:46 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO1dA-0001XU-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:55:46 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1c6.26edbe14 (4320) for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c6.26edbe14.2f96e666@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:55:34 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.6 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: DI2AG frequency Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Walter and LF,

the frequency pair for DI2AG's DFCW is now 440042.33 Hz dash, 440040.51 Hz dot.

Good luck, 73

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:23:13 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO23l-0000Wz-ER for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:23:13 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DO22G-0004XO-Cz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DO22G-0004XL-BC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO22F-00069x-UF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO223-0007Zt-96 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO222-0007Zk-UG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:26 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO221-0001cu-Dx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:21:26 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-247.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.247]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20089 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: <002001c54536$8116c1f0$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <42657856.3060300@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:20:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 66.225.112.69 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of smart.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: WOLF user interface again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) No problem with John being weak hr in Maryland and have nice solid copy on him tonite.Thanks for very nice effort..it works just great..would like to try copy on someone from across the pond???look forward to that. de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: LF: WOLF user interface again.. > Greetings all, > > Thanks to everyone for the response to the WOLF user interface, either > directly or via reflector. > There seems to be a slight problem in the decoder when the input signals > are very weak, causing an uninitialized variable to act as a negative > index into an array -> result "crash, bang, boom" (more info will be sent > to Stewart later). > > So for now, please switch back to the console variant until we have sorted > it out... > > 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:42:41 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO2Mb-0008Na-Jj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:42:41 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DO2L6-0001Qz-IW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:41:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DO2L6-0001Qw-Gf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:41:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO2L6-0007vB-7z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:41:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO2Kk-0007gT-CE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:40:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO2Kk-0007gK-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:40:46 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO2Ki-0001hM-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:40:46 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-5-247.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.120.247]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20581 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c54539$341d1220$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <42657856.3060300@freenet.de> <002001c54536$8116c1f0$0100a8c0@HOST> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:40:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 66.225.112.69 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of smart.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: WOLF user interface again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Here is a capture of Johns XES wolf with the new Wolf Gui mode.works very nice.. www.geocities.com/lacwman/xesapr19wolf.jpg de Lloyd W3NF ----- Original Message ----- From: "chastant" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: LF: Re: WOLF user interface again.. > No problem with John being weak hr in Maryland and have nice solid copy on > him tonite.Thanks for very nice effort..it works just great..would like to > try copy on someone from across the pond???look forward to that. > de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wolf DL4YHF" > To: "RSGB LF Group" > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:29 PM > Subject: LF: WOLF user interface again.. > > >> Greetings all, >> >> Thanks to everyone for the response to the WOLF user interface, either >> directly or via reflector. >> There seems to be a slight problem in the decoder when the input signals >> are very weak, causing an uninitialized variable to act as a negative >> index into an array -> result "crash, bang, boom" (more info will be sent >> to Stewart later). >> >> So for now, please switch back to the console variant until we have >> sorted it out... >> >> 73, Wolf DL4YHF . > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:45:31 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO8xn-0007rN-5E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:45:31 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO90o-00087F-OK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:48:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DO90o-000875-Jb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:48:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DO8xl-0003a9-Oz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:45:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DO8x2-0000I9-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:44:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DO8x1-0000I0-U5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:44:43 +0100 Received: from natsmtp00.rzone.de ([81.169.145.165]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DO8wz-00033J-8Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:44:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.103.46] (p548658EC.dip.t-dialin.net [84.134.88.236]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3K6iagF008375 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:44:38 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4265FADF.5050700@bbs2-gifhorn.de> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:46:55 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff Organization: BBS II Gifhorn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c54523$f50da050$7e01a8c0@JKA> In-Reply-To: <000801c54523$f50da050$7e01a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 81.169.145.165 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bbs2-gifhorn.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: XES WOLF 137.441 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030901060407090207020504" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030901060407090207020504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, nice copy here 0015z. See attachment. 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DRP and WX both good signal strength 0015Z through abrupt fadeout at an early 0415Z...although cut up by moderate static crashes. Unlike previous few nights where WX made a brief appearance WX was visible the entire period. Argocap below:

Jay, W1VD
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Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOD9p-0005U9-5T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:14:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DOD9o-0003vH-Vj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:14:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOD9n-00086Z-Dn for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:14:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOD9H-0000ij-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOD9H-0000ia-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:39 +0100 Received: from mx1.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16] helo=cupids.ucs.mun.ca) by relay.thorcom.net 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hosts X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.153.232.16 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of morgan.ucs.mun.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: TA in Bavaria Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thank-you for the report, Markus. As can be seen in your capture, I'm back on dot 30 on the hour with 5 WPM on the half hour although that's not visible so far. I'm running 75 watts, 1.4 amps to a 100 metre wire configured as an asymmetric inverted V with a mean height of about 10 metres. \ Since the spring warming, my aerial current has dropped. 73 Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:18:22 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOGy6-0004SM-JI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:18:22 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DOGwX-0001Ok-ES for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:16:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DOGwX-0001Oh-Bu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:16:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOGwX-0005PD-1j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:16:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOGvE-000154-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:15:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOGvE-00014v-7S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:15:24 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOGvC-0005RO-Tt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:15:24 +0100 Received: from fwd24.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DOGv9-0006iJ-00; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:15:19 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SmHH-eZVQeohyHwipzFPaqIDnTIzAkwyDGiQKbl9IGGkFiUfT9+xsZ@[84.133.123.245]) by fwd24.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DOGv6-0jDRbs0; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:15:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:14:32 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <795374525.20050420171432@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SmHH-eZVQeohyHwipzFPaqIDnTIzAkwyDGiQKbl9IGGkFiUfT9+xsZ X-TOI-MSGID: cefbffc3-3fe7-40d8-8b31-dc37f163bcdd X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: TA 19/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Updated my website with last night's TA captures from VO1NA, WD2XGJ and a better WD2XES WOLF screenshot than I posted earlier: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:45:34 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOKCc-0006vK-Ba for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:45:34 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DOKCc-0000N3-2i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:45:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DOKCc-0000Mu-0v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:45:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOKCb-0003Qv-RR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:45:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOKBu-0001LN-P6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOKBu-0001LE-Am for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:50 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOKBs-0006K4-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:50 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-28-174.access.as9105.com ([80.43.28.174]:3514 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DOKBn-000CS1-81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:44:43 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <42657856.3060300@freenet.de> Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: RE: WOLF user interface again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Hi Wolf & LF, What is the frequency accuracy required for the WOLF decoder, my JRC NRD-345 will only do 5Hz steps. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Wolf DL4YHF Sent: 19 April 2005 22:30 To: RSGB LF Group Subject: LF: WOLF user interface again.. Greetings all, Thanks to everyone for the response to the WOLF user interface, either directly or via reflector. There seems to be a slight problem in the decoder when the input signals are very weak, causing an uninitialized variable to act as a negative index into an array -> result "crash, bang, boom" (more info will be sent to Stewart later). So for now, please switch back to the console variant until we have sorted it out... 73, Wolf DL4YHF . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:09:29 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOKZl-0005Nl-EV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:09:29 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOKbI-0007GU-BS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:11:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOKbI-0007GL-6w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:11:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOKYB-0006UX-7K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:07:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOKXx-0001SA-2A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:07:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOKXw-0001S1-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:07:36 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOKXv-0006Uc-CE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:07:36 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.148] (helo=mx5.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DOKXm-000878-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:07:26 +0200 Received: from pd902e6f9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.230.249] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx5.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DOKXm-0007Vk-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:07:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4266A878.5060805@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:07:36 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: WOLF user interface again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Gary, Just set the "audio" center frequency if the RX tuning steps are too far. Referring to Stewart's documentation, you can also set the 'search range' manually : > Depending on frequency accuracy, you may need to use the 't' option, e.g. -t 2.5 tells WOLF > to search +/- 2.5 Hz for the signal. Values from 0.01 to 10.0 are reasonable; the default is 1.0 Hz. > Larger values result in reduced sensitivity, and also require more memory. There should be no difference between the console- and the GUI implementation. In fact, the GUI variant produces an internal command line when invoking the WOLF core algorithm. In the next GUI version, there will be a frequency near the waterfall display indicating the carrier frequency. Best regards, Wolf(gang) DL4YHF . Gary - G4WGT schrieb: >Hi Wolf & LF, > >What is the frequency accuracy required for the WOLF decoder, my JRC NRD-345 >will only do 5Hz steps. > >Regards, > >Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > >Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOLDs-00058C-Do for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOLGz-000JKa-Ac for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:54:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOLGz-000JKX-8G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:54:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOLDr-00021d-V7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOLDM-0001Zx-Ru for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOLDM-0001Zo-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:24 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOLDK-0006dd-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:24 +0100 Received: from pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050420195011.NQOW23939.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:50:11 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.32]) by pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050420195006.HKYP16943.pop2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:50:06 +1200 Message-ID: <000401c545e2$25539fd0$204036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> <000001c54207$2321f740$355037d2@mcalevey> <000001c542d5$29a00f70$bec536d2@mcalevey> <000001c54518$0eea87b0$3f5037d2@mcalevey> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:46:41 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.147 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: overnight Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080709060200030000070901" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080709060200030000070901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nothing from Eu overnight but XDW was good copy leading up to his sunrise. 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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.6 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: overnight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Bob and Mike,

no evening activity at all on my European 135.922 monitor. Seems everyone is taking a rest for future breakthroughs ;-) Congratulations to Laurence and Mike on the impressive XDW capture - looks like ufb condx.

SXV have moved down another 50 Hz this morning.

Kind regards

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:36:16 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOLvh-0007id-V8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:36:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOLzD-0003RY-GL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:39:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOLzD-0003R3-0G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:39:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOLxG-0006RG-JZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:37:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOLvU-0001li-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:36:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOLvU-0001lZ-Gm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:36:00 +0100 Received: from bay102-f14.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.24] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOLvS-0006pq-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:36:00 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:35:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <1a3.320f5edc.2f981331@aol.com> From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:35:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2005 20:35:51.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AF57B00:01C545E8] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.24 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: Re: LF: overnight XDW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks - makes the whizzing of the electricity meter and the warm circuit breaker all worth while! Last night I was getting around 0.75dB "erp" variation in the main lobe due to >40mph winds affecting the tuning slightly, but the "averaging" probably took most of the variance out. Perhaps the newly filled plastic 5500 gallon swimming pool is acting as a dampener...you know its getting towards summer in Oklahoma..the horizontal section of the loop with its 4 conductors is sagging a bit too at the moment and is only 6 ft above the soil. Glad to see the sig into ZL again Mike , I was beginning to wonder...certainly the OK> Eu path looked a lot better last night but DCF39 is very weak here at the moment, and about 35dB down from the seen peak. Laurence Wd2XDW em26aq http://myweb.cableone.net/flow >From: MarkusVester@aol.com >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: overnight >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:18:57 EDT > >Dear Bob and Mike, > >no evening activity at all on my European 135.922 monitor. Seems everyone >is >taking a rest for future breakthroughs ;-) Congratulations to Laurence and >Mike on the impressive XDW capture - looks like ufb condx. > >SXV have moved down another 50 Hz this morning. > >Kind regards > >Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:22 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DONUc-0003uA-5t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:22 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DONXh-0003Nz-GA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:19:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DONXh-0003Ne-4B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:19:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DONUZ-0003su-0z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DONU4-0001v9-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:15:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DONU3-0001v0-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:15:47 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DONU2-00076B-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:15:47 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1e0.3aa27e59 (18707) for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: G4gvw@aol.com Message-ID: <1e0.3aa27e59.2f982e85@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:15:33 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5003 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.204 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: New to list Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi J.B.,

At the risk of appearing "fawning" but truly intending to give credit where it is due because these guys just don't "blow their own trumpets" welcome to this group and its "gurus" !

I also was once a "newbie" and found this group to be incredibly knowledgable, welcoming, friendly, helpful, never patronising and very encouraging always!

I am sure that, like me, you will find them individually and/or collectively, either in open forum or privately a great bunch who will educate and encourage you.

I cannot think of a better way of thanking them for revitalising some of my interests in this hobby than by recommending them to you and any other aspirants!

73 de Pat g4gvw
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:41 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DONwz-0007DZ-0e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:41 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DONwy-0008BA-N3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DONwy-0008B0-KT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DONwy-0001OX-E5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DONwi-00020i-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DONwh-00020Z-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:23 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DONwg-00079r-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:45:23 +0100 Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DONwf-0003yB-00; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:45:21 +0200 Received: from (ExSt8qZdreviBm1s7aXfEzxhktupFTlB5HwXf26EeF+bwJU9tgvhor@[217.251.192.96]) by fwd22.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1DONwY-18JqQT0; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:45:14 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c54592$6bf6b800$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:45:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1DONwY-18JqQT0@fwd22.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: ExSt8qZdreviBm1s7aXfEzxhktupFTlB5HwXf26EeF+bwJU9tgvhor X-TOI-MSGID: e68ea55f-81aa-45e5-813c-94e404d8a708 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.83 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS=1.492 Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 19/20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Jay Rusgrove schrieb: > DRP and WX both good signal strength 0015Z through abrupt fadeout at an early > 0415Z...although cut up by moderate static crashes. Unlike previous few > nights where WX made a brief appearance WX was visible the entire period. > Argocap below: > > > > Jay, W1VD Hi Jay, thanks for all the reports. tonite Im off the air because testing the receiving system. Regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:22:14 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOQOU-00012L-AP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:22:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOQS2-000I0D-1C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:25:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOQS1-000I07-TJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:25:53 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOQOT-00051o-Mf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:22:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOQMx-0002HD-JA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:20:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOQMx-0002H4-6y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:20:39 +0100 Received: from mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOQMv-0007c2-9g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:20:39 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050421012028.TFKJ2171.mta206-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:20:28 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.121.111]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050421012028.TTGZ4411.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:20:28 +1200 Message-ID: <002501c54610$4f131980$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1a3.320f5edc.2f981331@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:20:27 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.58 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: overnight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Markus DF6NM,

>Dear Bob and Mike,
>no evening activity at all on my European 135.922 monitor. Seems everyone is taking a rest for future breakthroughs ;-) Congratulations to Laurence and Mike on the impressive XDW capture - looks like ufb condx.
>Markus, DF6NM

Just as well I made no claim of EU DX copy this morning ;-)

I'll also take a break from overnight/predawn capturing if there is no transmission from EU stations, but I will spend time looking for XDW or NA in our evening period (Mike has a much better sea foreground to stateside than I do).

73, Bob ZL2CA

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:18:21 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOYlJ-0006NA-1T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:18:21 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOYou-000CJE-2E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:22:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOYot-000CIy-PZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:22:03 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOYlH-0002qI-Dc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:18:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOYkG-0002tw-OO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:17:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOYkG-0002tn-CP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:17:16 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOYkE-0001Ot-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:17:16 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005042110165501400nhmuce>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:17:05 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c5465b$60b6fb20$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:17:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.97,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TAPR 20/21 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090508080505040007010202" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090508080505040007010202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Intermittant copy of DRP throughout the 0100 - 0630Z period. WX off last night. Nothing from YO.

Jay, W1VD
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15:39:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:39:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2005 15:39:14.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[454714B0:01C54688] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.40 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: XDW off - Tstorms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thunderstorms are a comin' down the plains - I shut down the beacon this morning at around 0700 CST Thursday 21st April - It may stay off all day as the forecast isnt that rosy. Laurence em26aq wd2xdw kl1x/5 status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:53:45 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOfs1-0003zr-B4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:53:45 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOfvf-000ERu-1N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOfvd-000ERM-Op for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOfrx-00017G-UB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:53:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOfq7-0003SK-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOfq7-0003SB-KD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:47 +0100 Received: from smtp-2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.69]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOfq3-0003Mv-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:47 +0100 Received: from [84.13.10.27] (helo=traceydlqceh0p) by smtp-2.opaltelecom.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1DOfpp-0003fO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:29 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.9.17]); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: <017901c5469a$c1e67120$1b0a0d54@traceydlqceh0p> From: "Tracey Gardner" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:51:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.24.128.69 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of talktalk.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Longwave Broadcast In Europe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This request came up on another list, but I thought it likely that someone on this list may be able to Jim. Tracey > For some AES (Audio Engineering Society) standards work I am doing > (on EMC), I need to get a handle on the approximate field strengths > used by long wave broadcast stations (150-250 kHz) in Europe and the > UK. Information on transmitter power and antenna details for US > broadcast stations is available on a public FCC website. Is there a > comparable site for the UK and other EU countries? Does someone here > have direct knowledge of these transmitters? Comparable data for > shortwave broadcasters could also be helpful. > > Please reply off list -- I don't want to burden the list with this > discussion. "Jim Brown" > > Thanks, > > Jim Brown K9YC > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 19/04/2005 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:45 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOi7N-0000yJ-5i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:45 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOiB2-0008hk-LP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:21:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOiB2-0008ha-I7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:21:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOi7M-00014j-IP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOi7H-0003jN-6O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.20] (helo=relay.omnieng.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOi7G-0003jE-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:38 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.omnieng.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DOi6w-0007Fl-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:17:25 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050421201720.PWFX23759.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:17:20 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.197.217]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050421201719.TCTD22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:17:19 +1200 Message-ID: <000701c546af$1e7ee160$c55037d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c54060$661bc060$ac2537d2@mcalevey> <000001c54207$2321f740$355037d2@mcalevey> <000001c542d5$29a00f70$bec536d2@mcalevey> <000001c54518$0eea87b0$3f5037d2@mcalevey> <000401c545e2$25539fd0$204036d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:12:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.omnieng.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.144 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=2.8 Subject: LF: XDW overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Last night XDW was strong when I first looked at 0850utc and slowly faded out over the next two hours. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:27:51 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOuRz-0003Ae-6Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:27:51 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOuVJ-000P70-6z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:31:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOuVI-000P6f-Qx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:31:16 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOuTg-00019R-NQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:29:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOuQk-0004a5-29 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:26:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOuQj-0004Zw-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:26:33 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOuQi-0007lT-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:26:33 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.155.4f3f55d0 (1320) for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:26:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <155.4f3f55d0.2f9a1d3d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:26:21 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.6 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: TA April 21/22 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060100090202070700020400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060100090202070700020400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Warren and Joe, LF Group,

traces in Nuernberg from WD2XGJ (01:00 to 04:30), VO1NA (23:00 to 00:30 and 02:00 to 04:30). Joe's signal peaked during his 03:00 transmission, one of best seen here.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
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14:57:02 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOyeS-0000VA-JZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:57:02 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (unknown[204.127.197.129](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005042213564301300rmiohe>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:56:53 +0000 Received: from [24.63.207.117] by 204.127.197.111; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:56:39 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:56:39 +0000 Message-Id: <042220051356.28109.42690297000B7A5600006DCD22069984990B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.531 Subject: Re: LF: TA April 21/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Markus, Thanks for the report. I'm happy to see that my signal is still making through. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:39 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOyuZ-0000yv-Em for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DOyuZ-0001sG-71 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOywJ-0002qz-27 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:15:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOyuM-00053L-Sn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOyuM-00053C-FK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:26 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOyuK-0000Zr-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:13:26 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3MEDDQq008933 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:13 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j3MEDDTW002706 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:13 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j3MEDCXA024206; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:12 -0230 (NDT) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:12 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <155.4f3f55d0.2f9a1d3d@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <155.4f3f55d0.2f9a1d3d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.153.232.65 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of morgan.ucs.mun.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA April 21/22 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Markus and group, My aerial current is down about 50 percent for no other reason than the increased temperature outdoors. It's surprising that you can still see the sigs. Thanks for the report. Joe From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:48 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOzE3-000084-Ul for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:48 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOzHq-0001LI-LR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:37:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOzHq-0001LF-Hx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:37:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOzE2-0005uR-Sp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOzDk-00059H-Ta for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOzDk-000598-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOzDj-0000gI-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 3564 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2005 14:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2005 14:33:23 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c54749$c46d0170$7801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:44:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF Test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I'm back from a business trip -- If anyone would like a WD2XES WOLF test signal tonight, I'd be happy to oblige. If wanted, lower power operation is easy, as the amp has a volume control! Tnx to Hartmut for the nice copy from Wednesday morning. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:25:38 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP4iY-0008FY-Ny for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:25:38 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP4lx-000Ch7-1U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:29:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP4lw-000Cgu-NZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:29:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP4iX-0008F5-RL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:25:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP4hq-0005Xr-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:24:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP4hq-0005Xi-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:24:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP4hp-0002Be-0f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:24:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 2421 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2005 20:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2005 20:24:48 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:35:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:18:15 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP7Pb-0004wz-CW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:18:15 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DP7Pa-0005Ha-Pr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:18:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DP7Pa-0005HX-No for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:18:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP7Pa-0001Bv-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:18:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP7P7-0005ly-4L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:17:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP7P6-0005lp-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:17:44 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP7P5-0002zG-Bx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:17:44 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DP7Os-0008KX-DQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:30 +0200 Received: from pd902e1d6.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.225.214] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DP7Os-0002In-5K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:30 +0200 Message-ID: <42698653.1080903@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:18:43 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> In-Reply-To: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Greetings John & group, If anyone wants to try WOLF tonight : I have just uploaded a new version of the user-interface variant, with a few bugs fixed (thanks Stewart !). It works better with very weak and very strong signals now; at least it shouldn't crash. If you use it in "Soundcard" mode for a long unattended overnight run, be sure to have the option "Restart decoder when finished" on, because WOLF would otherwise stop decoding after 32 frames (with 96 seconds per frame, that is 51.2 minutes). However this option is now turned on by default. Like before, the WOLF GUI can be downloaded with all sourcecodes from http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html . To John: To my deepest regret, I have no good RX possibility at home .. sigh.. ;-( 73, Wolf DL4YHF . John Andrews schrieb: >WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB >lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC. > >John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:55:18 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP7zR-0005IM-WA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:55:18 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP82r-000DNR-2Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:58:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP82r-000DNO-06 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:58:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP7zQ-0006Qa-NF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:55:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP7z9-0005s1-7R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:54:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP7z8-0005rs-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:54:58 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP7z7-00034v-DU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:54:58 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050422235450012004kmc2e>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:54:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c54796$bfabc8e0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> <42698653.1080903@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:55:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf New version up and running - flawless copy of WD2XES. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf DL4YHF" To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight > Greetings John & group, > > If anyone wants to try WOLF tonight : I have just uploaded a new version > of the user-interface variant, with a few bugs fixed (thanks Stewart !). > It works better with very weak and very strong signals now; at least it > shouldn't crash. If you use it in "Soundcard" mode for a long unattended > overnight run, be sure to have the option "Restart decoder when > finished" on, because WOLF would otherwise stop decoding after 32 frames > (with 96 seconds per frame, that is 51.2 minutes). However this option > is now turned on by default. Like before, the WOLF GUI can be downloaded > with all sourcecodes from > http://people.freenet.de/dl4yhf/wolf/index.html . > > To John: To my deepest regret, I have no good RX possibility at home .. > sigh.. ;-( > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > John Andrews schrieb: > > >WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB > >lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC. > > > >John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:03:30 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP87N-0002NI-UE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:03:29 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DP85T-0006UM-Dg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DP85T-0006UJ-Bg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP85T-0002Y7-4l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP85L-0005yY-6k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP85K-0005yP-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:22 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP85J-00036w-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 18876 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 00:01:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2005 00:01:16 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c5478f$46fcdf80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> <42698653.1080903@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:01:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Wolf, The new version is also running fine here, though local copy is hardly a challenge. I was hoping that you would add the auto re-sync option for the guys who like to sleep at night. Do not apologize for the receiving limitations! Thank you very much for giving this mode a new life. And thanks to Stewart for continuing to help out. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:01 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP8KT-0008WV-Pe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:01 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DP8KO-0001N7-9B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:01 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DP8KO-0001N4-7f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:16:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP8KN-0006oP-Va for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:16:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP8K8-00063h-BN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:16:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP8K7-00063Y-U3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:16:39 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP8K6-00039b-IP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:16:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 22002 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 00:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2005 00:16:36 -0000 Message-ID: <005301c54791$6b59bb80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> <42698653.1080903@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:17:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Wolf, Also... the waterfall display is now much cooler. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:40:01 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP8gj-0008W4-FK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:40:01 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP8ka-0007n1-Nt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:44:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DP8ka-0007mx-LJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:44:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP8iV-0002dD-HH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:41:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DP8gH-00069D-NH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:39:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DP8gH-000694-Bh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:39:33 +0100 Received: from gemini.smart.net ([66.225.112.69]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DP8gF-0003Ly-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:39:33 +0100 Received: from HOST (core-balt-3-8.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net [209.163.119.8] (may be forged)) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02637 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:39:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c5479c$e881d420$0100a8c0@HOST> From: "chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:38:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 66.225.112.69 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of smart.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Wolf tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >WOLF -r 8000 -f 441 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 Wolf copy by W3NF using 22Apr WolfGui onWD2XES 137.441 t: 24 f: 0.851 a: 1.2 dp: 77.2 ci:13 cj:139 2BEAMTUYVOUH6YW ? t: 48 f: 0.156 a:-0.3 dp: 76.0 ci: 6 cj:477 F1E/BFL .28Y0WP ? t: 96 f:-0.928 a: 1.4 dp: 75.8 ci:14 cj:416 YZSVJ9GTKMSZ/YU ? t: 192 f: 0.498 pm: 6 jm:924 q:-14.6 -6.2 M*W*KR XQZ31BZE - t: 288 f: 0.146 pm: 12 jm:508 q: -5.5 -7.5 TRZ2GX6G BAV3.J ? t: 384 f: 0.146 pm: 20 jm:508 q: -4.0 -5.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 480 f: 0.146 pm: 34 jm:508 q: -2.0 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 576 f: 0.146 pm: 39 jm:508 q: -1.0 -2.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 672 f: 0.146 pm: 45 jm:508 q: -0.2 -0.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 768 f: 0.146 pm: 51 jm:508 q: 0.4 -0.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 864 f: 0.146 pm: 54 jm:508 q: 0.6 -0.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 960 f: 0.146 pm: 57 jm:508 q: 0.8 -0.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1056 f: 0.146 pm: 60 jm:507 q: 1.1 -0.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - This is copy using the latest version of Wolf Gui.It did seem to copy a couple time periods earlier than the previous version.but that is not absolutely a true test..Both worked Ok But no doubt John is weaker tonite.Thanks Wolf and Stewart..nice program. de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:33 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPAk1-0008Fa-9N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:33 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPAnS-000NqO-4X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:55:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPAnS-000NqL-2K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:55:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPAk0-0001KX-QW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPAjZ-0006Me-8p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPAjY-0006MV-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:04 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPAjY-0003tw-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:51:04 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DPAjX-00070E-01; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 04:51:03 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bjjH8uZereO0-AQdBw76tLE-iWZWgNIFzhLT22LqmUmDSnw+9Lwd4Y@[84.133.98.77]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DPAjT-0qDdpo0; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 04:50:59 +0200 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 04:50:55 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1061276225.20050423045055@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bjjH8uZereO0-AQdBw76tLE-iWZWgNIFzhLT22LqmUmDSnw+9Lwd4Y X-TOI-MSGID: 5f633f1d-f21e-49b3-bbf1-d2d27f27737b X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.82 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) John, no problem crossing the pond with 50w. See below 73 Hartmut WOLF -q E:\Eigene Dateien\137\wav\441-050422_23-0055-0155.wav -r 11025 -f 791 -t 0.01 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.010 a: 1.2 dp: 88.0 ci:11 cj:241 3FFWP6OME???1V8 ? t: 48 f:-0.017 a:-1.3 dp: 88.0 ci: 5 cj:109 MWP/O7QGB79E6O* ? t: 96 f:-0.013 a: 1.2 dp: 83.4 ci: 8 cj: 33 .NTPQE8C*AQJ7/C ? t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 23 jm:621 q:-12.1 -8.8 KELKO2920IRVXN1 ? t: 288 f: 0.000 pm: 39 jm:621 q: -9.1 -5.9 JVTA58CY.3 PT8* - t: 384 f: 0.000 pm: 61 jm:621 q: -6.6 -6.0 ???X7/.EWVMJ/TA - t: 480 f: 0.000 pm: 75 jm:621 q: -5.9 -6.0 ZX 7XNZCN3SID8H - t: 576 f: 0.000 pm: 86 jm:621 q: -4.9 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 672 f: 0.000 pm: 103 jm:621 q: -3.5 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 768 f: 0.000 pm: 136 jm:621 q: -2.8 -4.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 864 f: 0.000 pm: 151 jm:621 q: -2.2 -3.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 960 f: 0.000 pm: 167 jm:621 q: -1.8 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1056 f: 0.000 pm: 198 jm:621 q: -1.3 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1152 f: 0.000 pm: 220 jm:621 q: -1.1 -2.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1248 f: 0.000 pm: 231 jm:621 q: -0.7 -2.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1344 f: 0.000 pm: 240 jm:621 q: -0.8 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1440 f: 0.000 pm: 243 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1536 f: 0.000 pm: 247 jm:621 q: -0.5 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1632 f: 0.000 pm: 250 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1728 f: 0.000 pm: 259 jm:621 q: -0.2 -2.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1824 f: 0.000 pm: 273 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1920 f: 0.000 pm: 280 jm:621 q: -0.3 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2016 f: 0.000 pm: 283 jm:621 q: -0.2 -3.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2112 f: 0.000 pm: 284 jm:621 q: -0.1 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2208 f: 0.000 pm: 286 jm:621 q: -0.0 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2304 f: 0.000 pm: 288 jm:621 q: 0.0 -3.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2400 f: 0.000 pm: 296 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2496 f: 0.000 pm: 296 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2592 f: 0.000 pm: 297 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2688 f: 0.000 pm: 298 jm:621 q: 0.3 -3.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2784 f: 0.000 pm: 299 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2880 f: 0.000 pm: 300 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2976 f: 0.000 pm: 303 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:3072 f: 0.000 pm: 304 jm:621 q: 0.3 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:3168 f: 0.000 pm: 311 jm:621 q: 0.3 -4.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - > WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB > lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC. > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:05:28 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPIS0-0003cD-Gy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:05:28 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPIVw-000H34-39 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:09:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPIVw-000H31-0R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:09:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPIRz-0006zU-Ut for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:05:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPIR6-0007Lb-5R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPIR5-0007LS-Pe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:04:31 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPIR3-0005LC-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:04:31 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005042311041601400p3hbre>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:04:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c547f4$44cff980$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:04:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=0.222,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.207 Subject: LF: TA APR 22/23 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090003080304070005010106" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090003080304070005010106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Early traces of DF6NM otherwise nothing. DRP must have been QRT as DCF-39 was strong on W3EEE grabber.

Jay, W1VD

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SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hartmut, That -6 dB didn't hurt too much! I expected some copy, but not that good. Interesting stuff... John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:58 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPL38-00039P-PC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:58 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPL6d-000OnS-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:55:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPL6d-000OnP-Jy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:55:35 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPL37-0002mL-UH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPL2h-0007go-9y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPL2g-0007gf-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:30 +0100 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPL2f-0005pN-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:51:30 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.1ad.36633bb3 (4418) for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1ad.36633bb3.2f9bacd3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:51:15 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.3 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 22/23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Jay,

good to see your screenshot, mni tnx for the report. I did see Brian on air until 22:51 UT. I was transmitting three sessions from 18:27 to 19:53, 23:18 to 01:36 and 02:53 to 04:58 UT, abt 0.5 W (dipole) ERP running 250 W RF. Your clock is presumably local DST = UT - 4h?

Nice to read Hartmut's report on John's 50W WOLF transmission!

73 and thanks for watching

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 23.04.2005 13:05:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Early traces of DF6NM otherwise nothing. DRP must have been QRT as DCF-39 was strong on W3EEE grabber.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:37 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLM9-0003h8-GF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:37 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPLM8-0001HI-4I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPLM8-0001HF-1S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLM7-0003gh-SR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLLv-0007mx-Jt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLLv-0007mo-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPLLs-0005tR-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050423141108015004b31le>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:11:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c5480e$2dca45a0$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1ad.36633bb3.2f9bacd3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:10:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 22/23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Markus

Was surprised to see your signal - it may have been visible a few minutes earlier but wasn't watching 922 at that point. UTC - 4h is correct. The time shown on the "mini" Argo plots is for the far right hand side of the capture. Your traces at the far left of the capture would have 1.5 - 2 hrs earlier.

Got a note from Brian that he was off starting around 0000Z.

Will continue to monitor.

Jay, W1VD

----- Original Message -----

From: MarkusVester@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 22/23

Dear Jay,

good to see your screenshot, mni tnx for the report. I did see Brian on air until 22:51 UT. I was transmitting three sessions from 18:27 to 19:53, 23:18 to 01:36 and 02:53 to 04:58 UT, abt 0.5 W (dipole) ERP running 250 W RF. Your clock is presumably local DST = UT - 4h?

Nice to read Hartmut's report on John's 50W WOLF transmission!

73 and thanks for watching

Markus, DF6NM

In einer eMail vom 23.04.2005 13:05:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt JRusgrove@comcast.net:

Early traces of DF6NM otherwise nothing. DRP must have been QRT as DCF-39 was strong on W3EEE grabber.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:27:17 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLbJ-0002tu-NP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:27:17 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPLbH-0005bv-HD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:27:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPLbH-0005bf-Bq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:27:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLbH-0002sy-0u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:27:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLb1-0007sN-56 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:26:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLb0-0007sE-H6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:26:58 +0100 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPLaz-0005x1-PW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:26:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3NEPhVA013680 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0500 Message-ID: <426A5B66.6010005@genesiswireless.us> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0500 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> <1061276225.20050423045055@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1061276225.20050423045055@t-online.de> X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-GenesisWireless-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: we0h@genesiswireless.us X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I wonder if those Australia and New Zealand stations can try receiving with GUI WOLF? Seems the new WOLF is kicking QRSS's ass =-O

Mike

Hartmut Wolff wrote:

John, no problem crossing the pond with 50w. See below 73 Hartmut WOLF -q E:\Eigene Dateien\137\wav\441-050422_23-0055-0155.wav -r 11025 -f 791 -t 0.01 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.010 a: 1.2 dp: 88.0 ci:11 cj:241 3FFWP6OME???1V8 ? t: 48 f:-0.017 a:-1.3 dp: 88.0 ci: 5 cj:109 MWP/O7QGB79E6O* ? t: 96 f:-0.013 a: 1.2 dp: 83.4 ci: 8 cj: 33 .NTPQE8C*AQJ7/C ? t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 23 jm:621 q:-12.1 -8.8 KELKO2920IRVXN1 ? t: 288 f: 0.000 pm: 39 jm:621 q: -9.1 -5.9 JVTA58CY.3 PT8* - t: 384 f: 0.000 pm: 61 jm:621 q: -6.6 -6.0 ???X7/.EWVMJ/TA - t: 480 f: 0.000 pm: 75 jm:621 q: -5.9 -6.0 ZX 7XNZCN3SID8H - t: 576 f: 0.000 pm: 86 jm:621 q: -4.9 -4.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 672 f: 0.000 pm: 103 jm:621 q: -3.5 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 768 f: 0.000 pm: 136 jm:621 q: -2.8 -4.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 864 f: 0.000 pm: 151 jm:621 q: -2.2 -3.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t: 960 f: 0.000 pm: 167 jm:621 q: -1.8 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1056 f: 0.000 pm: 198 jm:621 q: -1.3 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1152 f: 0.000 pm: 220 jm:621 q: -1.1 -2.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1248 f: 0.000 pm: 231 jm:621 q: -0.7 -2.8 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1344 f: 0.000 pm: 240 jm:621 q: -0.8 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1440 f: 0.000 pm: 243 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1536 f: 0.000 pm: 247 jm:621 q: -0.5 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1632 f: 0.000 pm: 250 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.5 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1728 f: 0.000 pm: 259 jm:621 q: -0.2 -2.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1824 f: 0.000 pm: 273 jm:621 q: -0.4 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:1920 f: 0.000 pm: 280 jm:621 q: -0.3 -2.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2016 f: 0.000 pm: 283 jm:621 q: -0.2 -3.0 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2112 f: 0.000 pm: 284 jm:621 q: -0.1 -3.1 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2208 f: 0.000 pm: 286 jm:621 q: -0.0 -3.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2304 f: 0.000 pm: 288 jm:621 q: 0.0 -3.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2400 f: 0.000 pm: 296 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2496 f: 0.000 pm: 296 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.6 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2592 f: 0.000 pm: 297 jm:621 q: 0.1 -3.7 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2688 f: 0.000 pm: 298 jm:621 q: 0.3 -3.9 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2784 f: 0.000 pm: 299 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2880 f: 0.000 pm: 300 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:2976 f: 0.000 pm: 303 jm:621 q: 0.4 -4.3 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:3072 f: 0.000 pm: 304 jm:621 q: 0.3 -4.2 CQ DX DE WD2XES - t:3168 f: 0.000 pm: 311 jm:621 q: 0.3 -4.4 CQ DX DE WD2XES -

WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:46:19 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLtj-0006vD-GR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:46:19 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPLvO-000BDA-8n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:48:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPLvO-000BD7-6F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:48:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPLrs-00082e-JQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:44:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLre-0007z8-LQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:44:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPLre-0007yz-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:44:10 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPLrc-0005zv-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:44:10 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DPLrc-0004Pd-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:44:08 +0200 Received: from pd902ff96.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.255.150] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx8.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DPLrc-0005bN-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:44:08 +0200 Message-ID: <426A5F73.305@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:45:07 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RSGB LF Group X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: WOLF q values Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) (Sorry for having to send this through the reflector, but my reply to John W1TAG was considered "spam" two times) Hi John, A very good and important observation, thanks - indeed when the decoder restarts, it should restart just like the console application, and so should the "q" value. I will try to understand what causes this, most likely just as you expected : A variable which doesnt get cleared when starting over. The WOLF core was not originally designed to be called more than once, it uses some global variables which are only initialized once automatically. Next plans are a "compare"-function for the received text, which can make an alarm bell ring (or something like that) to get the operator out of bed, a spectrum graph instead of the waterfall, a miniature frequency scale with numeric labels, and a few goodies like an automated RX / TX control which can "answer" a call when a pre-defined string has been received. Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF . -------------------------------------------------- John Andrews schrieb: Wolf, One minor observation on the new version -- when the program recycles after line 3168, it seems to keep building on the previous "q" (snr) values. Is that intentional, or just a case of not clearing a variable? The "jm" and "pm" values change as if you were starting over, so I had expected that the "q" value would reset as well. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPO7B-0007V7-J6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPO7A-0003bk-TD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPO7A-0003bh-Qy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:08:20 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPO7A-0003LC-Lp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:08:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPO6f-0008HN-BB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:07:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPO6e-0008HE-Qv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:07:48 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPO6d-0006Tr-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:07:48 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.6.43a9c06c (4418) for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:07:30 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <6.43a9c06c.2f9bdad1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:07:29 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.4 as permitted sender Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mike, Wolf and LF,

we0h@genesiswireless.us wrote:

I wonder if those Australia and New Zealand stations can try receiving with GUI WOLF? Seems the new WOLF is kicking QRSS's ass =-O

Mike

I'm not sure, Hartmut has been reading XES excellently in various flavours of narrowband modulation most nights. I think it depends on what you want to do. In the ZL tests, the primary goal up to now was to show that some signal energy is actually making it through. For this purpose, a single carrier or slow QRSS/DFCW dashes are hard to beat. The problem with spread-spectrum modulation like WOLF is that a weak signal is completely invisible in a spectrogram, which implies that the frequency has to be known a priori, and only one signal can be decoded at a time.

The situation becomes completely different when we want convey a significant amount of information, especially in conditions where the SNR varies over time. Here the decoding, weighting and synchronizing "brains" of WOLF may well make it far superior to human demodulation or straight PSK.

I wonder whether it would make any sense to give WOLF a small carrier component, by intentionally unbalancing the number of zeros and ones in the synchronizing bitstream?

dl4yhf@freenet.de wrote:

and a few goodies like an automated RX / TX
control which can "answer" a call when a pre-defined string has been
received.

Cool. Perhaps you could let the program select one of several stored answers depending on the received text, then we wouldn't have to stay up all night for those TA QSO's ;-))

73 and a nice weekend to all

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:45 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPOiL-00017s-N3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:45 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPOiI-0005I9-SG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPOiI-0005I5-Pk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPOiI-00050E-JT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:42 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPOi2-0008R8-TP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPOi2-0008Qz-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:26 +0100 Received: from fh1025.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.35] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPOi0-0006fc-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:46:26 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.92) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437CB20045CA36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:46:18 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c54823$fc1de500$5ce8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:45:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Craig" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL > Congrats to Laurie and Mike ZL4OL on the antipodes transmission and > reception. Well done! > > 73 > Joe VO1NA I was tuning up about this time is there a possibility that it could have been my carrier? or was there more positive ID ? de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:24:44 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPRBE-0003sp-JW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:24:44 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPRCu-000PQ8-Ex for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:26:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPRCu-000PQ3-Ai for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:26:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPRBE-0003sO-5O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:24:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPR8r-0000KD-EZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:22:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPR8r-0000K4-0L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:22:17 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPR8p-00070g-Ei for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:22:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 13017 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 20:22:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2005 20:22:10 -0000 Message-ID: <00a701c54839$d5e1adc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6.43a9c06c.2f9bdad1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:22:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Markus, I think WOLF may have some real potential on that long path when the bit rate is slowed down and the sync issue resolved by 1 pps ticks, or whatever. Of course, the throughput will suffer a bit! The present 960 bit message would take 16 minutes at a 1 b/s rate. Perhaps if GPS sync is adopted, the reference channel will be less critical, and we could halve that time. Smarter guys than I will have to work that out! John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:38 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPTIk-0003AW-FQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:38 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPTIi-0006LY-VG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPTIi-0006LU-TT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPTIh-0003fK-H2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPTI8-0000cg-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPTI8-0000cX-9x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:00 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPTI5-0007Ka-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:40:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 10815 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 22:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2005 22:39:55 -0000 Message-ID: <00c301c5484d$13ece0e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) WD2XES is back on for the night on 137.441 kHz with WOLF at 200 watts output. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:22:16 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPaVU-0001zm-99 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:22:16 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPaVL-0005AA-QN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:22:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPaVL-00059y-Jq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:22:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPaVL-00032Y-BN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:22:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPaUk-00030q-Go for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:21:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPaUk-00030h-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:21:30 +0100 Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPaUi-0005ru-LQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:21:30 +0100 Received: from fwd21.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DPaUh-0000kV-01; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:21:27 +0200 Received: from HW1 (GEfDW2ZOQe13RvnpMat4vygG+G48-Gi2frTotzLko-qupXMQbzkAw+@[84.133.86.93]) by fwd21.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DPaUX-1HS27s0; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:21:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:21:12 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <774090828.20050424082112@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <00c301c5484d$13ece0e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <00c301c5484d$13ece0e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: GEfDW2ZOQe13RvnpMat4vygG+G48-Gi2frTotzLko-qupXMQbzkAw+ X-TOI-MSGID: cbae25a6-6d92-4781-ba1a-16d0491ef9b2 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: Re: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) > WD2XES is back on for the night on 137.441 kHz with WOLF at 200 watts > output. Higher noise level and poorer signals last night. See below what I received 0055-0148z. 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de WOLF -q E:\Eigene Dateien\137\wav\441-050423_24-0055-0150.wav -r 11025 -f 791 -t 0.01 -w 0.0000 -o 2 t: 24 f: 0.015 a: 0.7 dp: 91.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 B 7K8Z26HIX6H5 ? t: 48 f: 0.004 a: 1.2 dp: 85.5 ci: 8 cj:234 RP0487YLC350.WG ? t: 96 f: 0.005 a: 1.1 dp: 84.4 ci: 2 cj: 34 DQP2JSTRS8V8C9K ? t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 22 jm: 30 q:-12.8 -8.7 OQKOJK87RD6RQXM ? t: 288 f: 0.000 pm: 25 jm:119 q:-12.9 -6.0 1WK43V7ISKYCYTW ? t: 384 f: 0.020 pm: 27 jm: 40 q:-11.7 -7.7 VC.7EWEX9T59IT ? t: 480 f:-0.010 pm: 40 jm:454 q: -8.4 -8.1 3Y7AD/S9J83O32 ? t: 576 f:-0.010 pm: 52 jm:454 q: -6.8 -8.3 7RKU1ZQ7B.SUDOA ? t: 672 f:-0.010 pm: 81 jm:454 q: -5.7 -6.4 FMK5SNAE5H0Q/FZ ? t: 768 f:-0.010 pm: 97 jm:454 q: -5.2 -8.1 FMK5SN .ONF6HRC ? t: 864 f:-0.010 pm: 114 jm:454 q: -4.9 -5.9 1O.AO8 WOLFING - t: 960 f:-0.010 pm: 128 jm:454 q: -4.5 -5.6 1O.AO8 WOLFING - t:1056 f:-0.010 pm: 133 jm:454 q: -4.3 -5.0 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1152 f:-0.010 pm: 152 jm:454 q: -3.7 -4.6 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1248 f:-0.010 pm: 173 jm:454 q: -3.2 -4.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1344 f:-0.010 pm: 184 jm:454 q: -2.6 -4.1 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1440 f:-0.010 pm: 204 jm:454 q: -2.3 -3.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1536 f:-0.010 pm: 225 jm:454 q: -1.8 -3.1 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1632 f:-0.010 pm: 233 jm:454 q: -1.4 -2.6 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1728 f:-0.010 pm: 248 jm:454 q: -1.2 -2.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1824 f:-0.010 pm: 259 jm:454 q: -1.0 -2.0 WD2XES WOLFING - t:1920 f:-0.010 pm: 267 jm:454 q: -0.8 -2.0 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2016 f:-0.010 pm: 290 jm:454 q: -0.7 -1.8 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2112 f:-0.010 pm: 307 jm:454 q: -0.6 -1.8 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2208 f:-0.010 pm: 312 jm:454 q: -0.2 -1.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2304 f:-0.010 pm: 316 jm:454 q: -0.3 -1.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2400 f:-0.010 pm: 321 jm:454 q: -0.1 -1.5 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2496 f:-0.010 pm: 334 jm:454 q: 0.2 -1.3 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2592 f:-0.010 pm: 342 jm:454 q: 0.3 -1.3 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2688 f:-0.010 pm: 353 jm:454 q: 0.5 -1.4 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2784 f:-0.010 pm: 357 jm:454 q: 0.4 -1.4 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2880 f:-0.010 pm: 357 jm:454 q: 0.4 -1.4 WD2XES WOLFING - t:2976 f:-0.010 pm: 382 jm:454 q: 0.3 -1.7 WD2XES WOLFING - t:3072 f:-0.010 pm: 386 jm:454 q: 0.4 -1.6 WD2XES WOLFING - t:3168 f:-0.010 pm: 387 jm:454 q: 0.5 -1.4 WD2XES WOLFING - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:12:10 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPd9t-0001Xw-WF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:12:10 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPd9r-0006St-Bs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:12:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPd9r-0006So-85 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:12:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPd9r-0004YE-0q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:12:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPd98-0003OG-VP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:11:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPd98-0003O7-B6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:11:22 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.198]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPd96-0006B1-TX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:11:22 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.230.42 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 09:11:14 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c548ad$85672a40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00c301c5484d$13ece0e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <774090828.20050424082112@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:57:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.198 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com Subject: Re: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Hartmut, I managed to get it set up last night and with a 1Hz search range got best copies slightly later I think. I have text in three sample periods but one only locked up right at the end, in the last two lines. Now the frequency accuracy is proved I will try with a narrower search range on a future night. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: "John Andrews" Sent: 24 April 2005 07:21 Subject: Re: LF: QRO WOLF > > WD2XES is back on for the night on 137.441 kHz with WOLF at 200 watts > > output. > > Higher noise level and poorer signals last night. See below what I > received 0055-0148z. > > 73 > Hartmut > > Locator:JO52ho > www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:29:06 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPdQI-0000Fa-I9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:29:06 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPdTu-000FPk-Jm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPdTu-000FPh-HF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPdSC-0006OQ-LD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:31:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPdQ3-0003Vw-L9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:28:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPdQ3-0003Vn-7F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:28:51 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPdQ1-0006E3-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:28:51 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate05.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j3O9SD3w010895 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:28:43 +0200 Received: from [217.248.191.105] by freemailng1804.web.de with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:28:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:28:40 +0200 Message-Id: <342999402@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.72.192.243 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of web.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear Lowfers, my problem is: I ave a little break through at qrss operation in receive mode when driving my amplifier directy with 136 kHz signal out of the dds-VFO. It would be useful to use a feeder before the amp that is keyed. What IC I can use that will give me a duty cycle of 50 %?. For reference: Books G3XDV "LF today" and G3LDO "the LOW FREQUENCY EXPERIMENTERS handbook " are present. HEF4017 to divide by 5 and 4013 to divide by 2 ? Waiting for Your suggtestions, Hans-Albrecht DK 8 ND __________________________________________________________ Mit WEB.DE FreePhone mit hoechster Qualitaet ab 0 Ct./Min. weltweit telefonieren! http://freephone.web.de/?mc=021201 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:06:47 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPewo-00083r-Rb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:06:46 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPf0u-000NGF-89 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:11:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPf0u-000NGC-40 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:11:00 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPewn-00082c-N6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:06:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPevn-0003ld-3B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:05:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPevm-0003lU-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:05:42 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPevl-0006QA-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:05:42 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050424110534015004dnn0e>; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:05:34 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c548bd$94c6c300$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:05:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 23/24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) High static levels last night. DRP visible only for brief periods around 0030 and 0515Z. Otherwise nil. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:02:14 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPfoU-000501-O7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:02:14 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPfoS-0003zG-7y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:02:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPfoS-0003z8-2q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:02:12 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPfqM-0007Wj-WC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:04:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPfoA-0003xq-6e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:01:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPfo9-0003xh-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:01:53 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPfo8-0006ZK-Bd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:01:53 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.fa.11cdd27e (18555) for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:01:41 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.35 as permitted sender Subject: Re: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070601000400060300030901" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070601000400060300030901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear John,

your "howling" was received and decoded successfully last night for a short period around 03:58 UT:

t:1440 f: 0.010 pm:    4 jm: 51 q: -3.0 -5.6 WD2XES WOLFING -

For those interested, the complete frame is appended as zip. Having tried several times before using decimated audio and console WOLF, this is my first successful detection of your TA WOLF signal. I'm beginning to see the light ;-)

For comparison, WD2XGJ was visible with ups and downs since midnight UT, and peaked shortly to "O" around 03:45, just before fadeout at 04:00. VO1NA left only faint traces between 01:00 and 01:30. CFH was only moderately strong with pronounced QSB, and faded at 05:40. "Luxemburg" ICM on DCF39 seemed unusally intense last night.

Many thanks for transmitting, and of course to Stewart and Wolf for the software.

73 and all the best

Markus,
DF6NM in Nuernberg (JN59NK)
--------------070601000400060300030901 Content-Type: application/zip; name="wolf_TA_050424_0358_detection.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="wolf_TA_050424_0358_detection.zip" UEsDBBQAAAAIAFtPmDIHnPexrwIAAOwIAAAhAAAAd29sZl9UQV8wNTA0MjRfMDM1OF9kZXRl Y3Rpb24udHh0hdZNb9pAEAbge6X+hzkj2Z7Z7+VQhA2B8GGIwRjnVqWK1EiR0qpS/3538aIG DDYHQIhnZ/b17trfqs3qASD6DUTIVEwSolcgNBaiPxAziP4CxuheX7/8GQIwAa9D/4sh+D6M KObw42MISscELz+HhPDyNhTuQ+vHeqxzM8O0liaHUeOFcT7yI+rGY+OVK+U8GO85ZwDL6Zbb TG8SOm4HePZWnb31HmPdeOG+eM9O9aWAx1nK00U1gSIvk0kWPFnW9E9Mw8e7G9BNCd7eh8y1 /Mv1w11DkYklZPXmmGSLQ8LVmtlB8MyYbk+xgUi5QR7rXbkrp8UDV6tsvofo5LkRfZ75+gSr sshZSoO6yiZVMgv1hcFuj7GCyLpBxtNpOaaHo4WFeK7O+Umturyn1tdHqMrMDmS6SVeb5SQr gle6Mz/vhX9DkMtie5zhZHJRX6vO/Hxp7b0GNV6OF2Ud51wVKW6DN6qdH//sdZO/Pc0/XS/S cbre4twGb1XID93/P3uQdPLSX3/t6sfJjLCYHw76Se510nhCqbq98PPXblcs95WCUoFI84O2 JniSrM9TU/+53hlVb9NjvjzsszJ4JkzLi8+eu6XrJmEBFW0hy7K6UsX+qQqeC9HnWcuvZ4Ow f0iIdn5XHr1XUE3YcboDf7w85jNo1j9J3s7vwjN//aWbxG2veDu/Ky+6vGY9+bFm/vyON6yd n7z01OUta+d34cnvP+mauOkZUju/K2+8F3c8UTu/K687+mcM2/ldedVVn2NPfnTeP//9QUx5 WP9MYG9+zPuL+vPBef8zYXvzo2t/cPeWffDS9uYX9u8RYDQaYZLwXNN0Hrwyvfmd+pd3vDa9 +aE//ww8x7e8Mb35nc4/vOOt7s0PO/rnqHvyQ7/+/cPEzfqcVE9+/oHgdBO4Uf8fUEsBAhQL FAAAAAgAW0+YMgec97GvAgAA7AgAACEAAAAAAAAAAQAgAAAAAAAAAHdvbGZfVEFfMDUwNDI0 XzAzNThfZGV0ZWN0aW9uLnR4dFBLBQYAAAAAAQABAE8AAADuAgAAAAA= --------------070601000400060300030901-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:52 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPghI-00005S-3w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:52 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPglO-000NSo-6C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:03:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPglO-000NSl-3L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:03:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPghH-0004IQ-HL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPggp-0004A6-TJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPggp-00049x-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:23 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPggn-0006jP-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:58:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 31055 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 12:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2005 12:57:37 -0000 Message-ID: <003501c548c4$e5f73320$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:58:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Markus, >your "howling" was received and decoded successfully last night for a short period around 03:58 UT:< Congratulations! Looking at the file you sent, I think that the audio level should have been higher. Note that the "pm" values are all in the single numbers, which is quite low. Before the GUI version was available, I typically set the audio level in recording a .wav file to about 6 dB below clipping. That level would of course be dominated by noise, with the very weak "wanted" signal being many dB below. You will know that you have exceeded the limits of the detector when the "pm" values increase in steps of 4096 from line to line. So you might have had better copy last night with the gain (or Windows slider) cranked up. Good job! John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:42 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPhjy-0001iW-Pj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:42 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPhnc-000Prj-8u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:09:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPhnc-000PrY-2L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:09:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPhjx-00027Z-S1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPhjS-0004My-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPhjS-0004Mp-2g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:10 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPhjQ-0006uU-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:05:10 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DPhjC-0006iU-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:04:55 +0200 Received: from www2.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.199] helo=www3.emo.freenet-rz.de) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DPhjC-0007ne-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:04:54 +0200 Received: from www-data by www3.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DPhjC-0004pF-0d for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:04:54 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 217.2.231.134 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:04:54 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.832 Subject: Re: Re: LF: QRO WOLF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageHi Markus,

14:00 UTC:

>WOLF -r 8000 -f 1741 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t: 24 f:-0.621 a: 1.4 dp: 65.2 ci: 8 cj:136 Y ETFF3AZ*YEBC ?
>WOLF -r 8000 -f 1641 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t: 24 f:-0.066 a:-0.4 dp:100.0 ci: 3 cj: 10 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 48 f:-0.068 a:-0.2 dp: 98.8 ci: 3 cj: 10 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 96 f:-0.070 a: 0.0 dp: 96.8 ci: 3 cj: 10 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 192 f:-0.068 pm: 733 jm:939 q: 10.8 11.4 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 288 f:-0.068 pm: 768 jm:939 q: 11.9 12.3 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 384 f:-0.068 pm: 1325 jm:940 q: 12.6 13.2 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -
t: 480 f:-0.068 pm: 2063 jm:940 q: 13.1 13.5 DF6NM 20MW EMRP -

Hope to catch you later ...

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Dear John,

your "howling" was received and decoded successfully last night for a short period around 03:58 UT:

t:1440 f: 0.010 pm:    4 jm: 51 q: -3.0 -5.6 WD2XES WOLFING -

For those interested, the complete frame is appended as zip. Having tried several times before using decimated audio and console WOLF, this is my first successful detection of your TA WOLF signal. I'm beginning to see the light ;-)

For comparison, WD2XGJ was visible with ups and downs since midnight UT, and peaked shortly to "O" around 03:45, just before fadeout at 04:00. VO1NA left only faint traces between 01:00 and 01:30. CFH was only moderately strong with pronounced QSB, and faded at 05:40. "Luxemburg" ICM on DCF39 seemed unusally intense last night.

Many thanks for transmitting, and of course to Stewart and Wolf for the software.

73 and all the best

Markus,
DF6NM in Nuernberg (JN59NK)

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:01:13 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPibh-0007pO-Ev for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:01:13 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPiay-0004Ia-0a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:01:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPiax-0004IX-UI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPiax-00083b-NW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPiad-0004Yw-3f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPiac-0004Yn-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:06 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPiab-00073R-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:06 +0100 Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DPiaa-0006iI-04; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:00:04 +0200 Received: from HW1 (X6SEwUZAZe3AizLHhevY1NpDozOa4rLVPewfcGETY1-42gC9cWzCQ+@[84.133.106.61]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DPiaU-0IJfzE0; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:59:58 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:59:57 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1684817426.20050424165957@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: X6SEwUZAZe3AizLHhevY1NpDozOa4rLVPewfcGETY1-42gC9cWzCQ+ X-TOI-MSGID: 73d8cd4e-163b-4908-8425-091bb6496b69 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: LF: WOLF QSO DF6NM and DF0WD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Markus and Wolf, nice to see a WOLF signal on the waterfall display. The below I decoded from a soundfile, as I had no time sitting in front of the rx. 73 Hartmut WOLF -q E:\Eigene Dateien\137\wav\050424-1217.wav -r 11025 -f 791 -t 5 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 3.100 a:-1.0 dp:100.3 ci:10 cj:343 UJ/7GVCP 0BIFR ? t: 48 f: 3.474 a:-1.3 dp:104.5 ci: 4 cj:445 WV/ 2M7JFLCDS73 ? t: 96 f: 3.476 a: 1.3 dp:109.9 ci: 7 cj:311 D51SR/PJNSYW39L - t: 192 f:-0.039 pm: 31 jm:706 q: -9.8 -9.1 HNWMQTVT*.PGCB ? t: 288 f:-0.049 pm: 52 jm:706 q: -5.1 -5.2 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 384 f:-0.039 pm: 699 jm:706 q: 2.0 1.9 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 480 f:-0.039 pm: 724 jm:706 q: 3.5 3.1 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 576 f:-0.039 pm: 750 jm:706 q: 4.4 4.0 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 672 f:-0.039 pm: 767 jm:706 q: 4.7 4.3 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 768 f:-0.039 pm: 789 jm:706 q: 5.6 4.9 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 864 f:-0.039 pm: 817 jm:706 q: 6.0 5.1 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t: 960 f:-0.039 pm: 820 jm:706 q: 6.2 5.4 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t:1056 f:-0.039 pm: 883 jm:706 q: 6.7 5.7 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t:1152 f:-0.039 pm: 943 jm:706 q: 7.5 6.4 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t:1248 f:-0.039 pm: 1056 jm:706 q: 8.0 7.2 DF6NM 20MW EMRP - t:1344 f: 0.068 pm: 1615 jm:931 q: -8.1 -8.1 ???P2UWKHYIJ8QT ? t:1440 f: 0.205 pm:20659 jm:472 q: 1.3 -0.1 DF0WD GT MARKUS - t:1536 f: 0.205 pm:20669 jm:472 q: -0.7 -2.4 DF0WD GT MARKUS - t:1632 f: 0.205 pm:20691 jm:472 q: -0.8 -3.4 DF0WD GT MARKUS - t:1728 f: 0.205 pm:27587 jm:379 q: -1.3 -3.3 SRI TWO STNS... - t:1824 f: 0.205 pm:31060 jm:623 q: -2.0 -4.9 DF0WD STANDBY - t:1920 f: 0.205 pm:31092 jm:623 q: -1.9 -5.1 DF0WD STANDBY - t:2016 f: 0.205 pm:31895 jm:623 q: -2.3 -7.3 ???Q7DY27ZL3W.J ? t:2112 f: 0.205 pm:79430 jm:139 q: 0.8 -0.7 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2208 f: 0.205 pm:154618 jm:139 q: 5.6 4.8 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2304 f: 0.205 pm:154626 jm:139 q: 5.6 4.8 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2400 f: 0.205 pm:154732 jm:139 q: 4.8 4.1 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2496 f: 0.205 pm:154751 jm:139 q: 4.5 3.3 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2592 f: 0.205 pm:154770 jm:139 q: 4.6 3.1 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2688 f: 0.205 pm:154879 jm:139 q: 3.6 2.0 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2784 f: 0.205 pm:154902 jm:139 q: 3.7 2.0 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2880 f: 0.205 pm:154936 jm:139 q: 3.7 2.0 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:2976 f: 0.205 pm:155012 jm:139 q: 3.3 1.3 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - t:3072 f: 0.205 pm:155110 jm:139 q: 3.1 0.9 RR 6NM DF0WD GT - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:36:52 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPk6G-0002YC-HO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Markus, your WOLF transmission < CQ de DF6NM > on 137,44kHz vy strong in jo43sv. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:27 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPlbj-0003Nt-8m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:27 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPlbi-00036o-D9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPlbi-00036a-8k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPlbi-0004iq-0B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPlbJ-0005Bn-EW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPlbI-0005Be-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:00 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPlbH-0007k4-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:00 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (rsgb?lf?group@blacksheep.org@81.153.142.154 with poptime) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 18:12:53 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVI+UtUqi8XFzsoQgWPw3offOWRmw== X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Marcus and group (especially Wolf) Thanks for your patience whilst I struggled to get Wolf GUI set up! I had literally just unzipped it and ran it into the TX and I saw your signal come back on the waterfall but couldn't make it decode for ages... When I got the calibration sorted I could then decode fine (but the signal was audible so it SHOULD have worked!). I had two copies running one on Win98 and one on Win 2K and they both kept crashing after about 10mins, then I couldn't make the TX start on the right frequency unless I re-started the program several times. Also I had the RX constantly repeating the last message it had received, which was my TX message from the other computer, even though I was receiving Marcus on the waterfall... Most odd. Perhaps I need more practice?! Thanks Wolf for making Stewart's mode accessible to the dim operators like myself. It shows a lot of potential but maybe it's not quite ready as a QSO mode yet? (Or maybe I'm not...?) 73 and thanks both again Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:16:24 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPlea-0005yW-Mo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:16:24 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPlbp-0005sC-DR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:14:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPlbo-0005s4-Bl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPlbo-0003Po-5n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPlbl-0005CG-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPlbk-0005C7-Jb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0100 Received: from fh1023.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.33] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPlbj-0007kH-4w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.233.24) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437A00005FB7F7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:13:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c548ef$b7628d40$18e9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:04:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net Subject: LF: LF ACTY Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All

I have been vy active this past month both on CW and QRS 1 to 3 with good results. Have been testing a new PA on both 135.922 khz approx for ZL acty at QRS 120 but faster at QRS 1-3 on 137.7 khz approx. I have been getting solid O copy at both QRS 1 and 2 to speed thing up around EU.

Tnx to all those that called and made a QSO and all the reports both on email, snailmail and LL. It appears there is a lot of listeners on LF.

I have gone from low voltage high current to high voltage and low current and both situations are different, apart from suitable FETS for the change other components also had to be changed for stability purposes. The high current devices seem more stable than the high voltage approach.

With the change and the antenna system here I expected to be seen in ZL if propagation was half favourable.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:56:08 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmH2-0007Ar-2H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:56:08 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPmIk-000FFG-8p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:57:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPmIk-000FFD-6U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:57:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmF4-0001wt-CO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:54:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmEp-0005Pn-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:53:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmEp-0005Pe-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:53:51 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPmEm-0007si-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:53:51 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.42.190 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 18:53:42 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c548fe$effaa0c0$be2a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <342999402@web.de> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:53:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans-Albrecht Haffa To: Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: LF: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out > HEF4017 to divide by 5 and > 4013 to divide by 2 ? > Waiting for Your suggtestions, > Hans-Albrecht > DK 8 ND > __________________________________________________________ Dear Hans-Albrecht, LF Group This is one possibility for divide-by-10. The easiest way to get an exact 50% duty cycle is to make the final stage of the divider a "toggle" connected flip-flop to divide by 2. A circuit which does this is shown as part of the G3YXM portable TX (page 61 of "LF today"). The 4000-series ICs are convenient if you are running everything from a 12V supply, but if you want divide-by-100 from 13.6MHz they are marginal - the guaranteed clock frequency for a 4017 is only 5.5MHz with 15V supply, and the 4013 is 12MHz. A better choice for divide-by-100 is the 74HC390, which contains 2 divide-by-5, and 2 divide-by-2 circuits, so will do the job with a single IC ( http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/74HC390N.html ). Note this requires a supply around 5V, and a 0V/+5V logic level input, but it will work up to 60MHz or so. Make sure that, as before, you make the last divider stage one of the divide-by-2 counters; the divide-by-5 does not give a symmetrical output. If you require complementary phase outputs, it would be best to use an external flip-flop as the final divide by 2 stage. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:05:04 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmPg-0002BY-F3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:05:04 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPmNi-0004xs-VJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:03:03 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPmNi-0004xp-Te for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:03:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmNi-00022q-MR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:03:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmNW-0005Wg-DW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:02:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmNW-0005WX-2c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:02:50 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPmNU-0007wF-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:02:50 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.42.190 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 19:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c54900$31d382e0$be2a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <342999402@web.de> <002001c548fe$effaa0c0$be2a7ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:02:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) PS - I see looking at the Philips HEF4017 data sheet that it is considerably faster than some other manufacturers examples, and would be OK to 13.6MHz with a 12V power supply - but if you use this, make sure you get the genuine Philips one! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:26:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmkk-00032W-48 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:26:50 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPmmv-0008NZ-U6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:29:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPmmv-0008NW-R2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:29:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPmim-0002pT-H9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:24:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmiN-0005eE-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:24:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPmiN-0005e5-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:24:23 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155] ident=exim) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPmiL-00083G-KD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:24:23 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DPmi8-0000hj-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:24:08 +0200 Received: from pd902e786.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.2.231.134] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DPmi7-0000HE-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:24:08 +0200 Message-ID: <426BF29E.7080301@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:25:18 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.155 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hello Dave, Sorry for the setup problems - indeed, the calibration of sample rate and frequency tuning is essential, and I am still looking for an easier way to tune. The waterfall (and spectrum graph) will be pretty useless when it comes to the really weak signals, since WOLF's decoding potential exceeds the waterfall's weak-signal displaying capability by far (especially when looking at a BPSK signal). There is a tuning mode in the program which can produce a thin line on the receiver's sreen. It must be exactly on the place which is marked with the larger tick in the middle of the frequency scale (phew, I should mention that in a manual... but no time yet). About the crash: What compilation date (and time ! ) does the "About"-box show ? I recently uploaded a new version in which a bug has been fixed, which caused a crashed after quickly switching from RX to TX and back to RX (the latest version was compiled today, April 24, which was used by DF6NM and DF0WD). But before downloading that version, wait for a few days until the next one is out. I will add the option for a waterfall with selectable frequency solution, which would simplify tuning if another station (with precise TX) transmits the "Tune Tone" for a couple of minutes. About the same message being decoded more than once, even if there is no signal: Strong signals "accumulate" (or integrate) in a memory, causing the same message to be displayed more than once. Since the message text is spread all over the 960 bit message frame (which takes 96 seconds to send at 10 bit/sec), the coding scheme makes it possible to decode a strong signal which was only 24 seconds long. To try this "off-line" with a reasonably fast PC (say >= 300 MHz), you can let up to three instances of the WOLF GUI on the same machine, each of them using its own configuration. With an AC97 audio system (which most PCs use these days), let one instance transmit, and the other receive. If your soundcard plays an ugly game with you, it uses *different* sampling rates for in- and output (this can happen, but fortunately not too often). If it happens, enter different sample rates in the "Transmit" and "Receive" fields on the config tab. A digital frequency counter connected to the soundcard output, and the "Tune Tone" mode will quickly reveal such problems. After calibrating the sampling rate (until 800.00 Hz get out as 800.00 Hz), you have a stable generator to test the input ("Receive") sampling rate. Note: Some digital frequency counters can be switched into "Period measurement" mode, which gives a much higher resolution than the "frequency measurement" mode, even at 10 second gate time. About the WOLF-test today: Before calling Markus in WOLF BPSK after the Formula 1 race today, I noticed a signal on the waterfall which I couldn't decode - was that you Dave ? Now back to the workbench... 73, Wolf DL4YHF ( Wolf = Wolfgang, that's me; WOLF = BPSK by KK7KA, that's not me - all the flowers to Stewart please ! :-) Dave Pick schrieb: >Marcus and group (especially Wolf) > >Thanks for your patience whilst I struggled to get Wolf GUI set up! >I had literally just unzipped it and ran it into the TX and I saw your >signal come back on the waterfall but couldn't make it decode for ages... >When I got the calibration sorted I could then decode fine (but the signal >was audible so it SHOULD have worked!). I had two copies running one on >Win98 and one on Win 2K and they both kept crashing after about 10mins, then >I couldn't make the TX start on the right frequency unless I re-started the >program several times. >Also I had the RX constantly repeating the last message it had received, >which was my TX message from the other computer, even though I was receiving >Marcus on the waterfall... Most odd. >Perhaps I need more practice?! >Thanks Wolf for making Stewart's mode accessible to the dim operators like >myself. It shows a lot of potential but maybe it's not quite ready as a QSO >mode yet? (Or maybe I'm not...?) > >73 and thanks both again > >Dave G3YXM. > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:53:42 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnAk-0006f3-4g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:53:42 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPnAA-0005Oa-Pm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:53:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPnAA-0005OR-I8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:53:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnAA-0000E6-D2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:53:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPn9x-0005nW-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPn9w-0005nN-Lj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:52 +0100 Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.205]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPn9w-0008BS-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:52 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.7b.43e60105 (18555) for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.43e60105.2f9d530b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:52:43 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.205 as permitted sender Subject: Re: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Wolfgang, Hartmut, Uwe and Dave,

there was quite bit of activity on the wolve's QRG 137441 this afternoon. After DL4YHF at DF0WD saw my low power test transmission, he replied, and we finally got engaged in our second WOLF QSO, four years after the first successful QSO on April 16th, 2001. Even though signals were excellent and audible, we had some difficulties decoding each other right away. Typically, WOLF-RX locked on the right frequency within 24 seconds, but the the first lines of output were garbage, and the true message was displayed only after about two minutes. In 2001 we had some difficulties to achieve bitclock synchronization, until we found out that the ADC and DAC samplerates at 8000 Hz nominal were actually different on the notebook PCs used at the time. So we suspected to be victims of a similar problem again.

Later I could see G3YXM calling, a good signal visible on the spectrogram display. Again I could read Dave every time after 96 seconds delay, but he said he had severe problems to copy me. Only after I extended the duration of my transmissions to about 4 minutes, we could finally complete a short QSO.

This made me suspect that my local oscillator reference, a homebrew temperature-stabilized crystal near 21.4 MHz, might have some frequency drift after keying the TX on and off. I checked it by feeding an external signal on the image frequency (42.923 MHz) into the second RX channel, which could be tracked on Argo during a test transmission. The result showed an exponentially decaying post-keying transient of 0.037 ppm (i.e. 5 mHz at 137 kHz), coupled into the temperature controller by a small supply voltage change, and lasting for about 100 seconds. This would result in an absolute phase shift of nearly 180deg during the first part of both the TX and RX intervals, which could possibly explain the decoding problems. Sorry if it was that which caused the difficulties for my partners - I will try to fix it by feeding an external reference signal to my circuit before transmitting WOLF again.

Unrelated to this, I also observed the effect mentioned by Dave, that a strong message is "held" by the decoder for a long time, effectively blocking the aquisition of a subsequent weaker message. I'm not sure wheather this is a bug or actually a feature of the averaging techniques in use. Is this what is meant to be controlled by the -L option? A practical workaround of course is to simply restart the receiver by pressing F11 and F9.

Thanks again to all players in this enjoyable game.

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:58 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnIk-0003sQ-Ik for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:58 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DPnIe-0000Ct-S6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DPnIe-0000Cq-Qr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnIe-0004NN-Jq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPnIW-0005uL-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPnIV-0005uC-So for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:43 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPnIU-0008Ea-FC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:43 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id l.60.5441c725 (18555) for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <60.5441c725.2f9d551d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:01:33 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.36 as permitted sender Subject: LF: Re: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Hans-Albrecht and Jim,

there is one minor disadvantage in keying a divider: As the phase at each key-down is arbitrary, the transmitted signal looses its inter-symbol coherence. This does not affect normal aural or visual decoding in any manner. But on a high-resolution FFT you will no longer be able to resolve a central spectral line, which would be useful to detect the presence of a very weak signal or precisely measure its frequency.

Of course the same holds true for small keying chirps, as I have recently learned :-(

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:56 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnqa-0002Nc-Bo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:56 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPnuj-0002n6-Lw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:41:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPnuj-0002n3-Is for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:41:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPnqZ-0006zY-SJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPnq7-00064D-4D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPnq6-000644-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:26 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.202]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPnq5-0008LG-79 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:26 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.135.4.168 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 20:36:18 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c5490d$441ed140$a8048751@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <60.5441c725.2f9d551d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:36:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.202 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_50_60=0.095,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Markus, LF Group,

You can see this on some amateur QRSS signals when they send a CW ID - the ones who are not keying dividers show up as a carrier with a blur around it, while the ones with keyed dividers are all blur and no carrier :-)

The same can be seen on the DCF39 "carrier" - with a high enough resolution spectrogram, this becomes a blur too, with a bandwidth of the order of 0.05Hz.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

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Dear Hans-Albrecht and Jim,

there is one minor disadvantage in keying a divider: As the phase at each key-down is arbitrary, the transmitted signal looses its inter-symbol coherence. This does not affect normal aural or visual decoding in any manner. But on a high-resolution FFT you will no longer be able to resolve a central spectral line, which would be useful to detect the presence of a very weak signal or precisely measure its frequency.

Of course the same holds true for small keying chirps, as I have recently learned :-(

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:24 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPoDI-0005nn-AZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:24 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPoHR-0008nq-MZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:04:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPoHR-0008nn-Jk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:04:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPoDH-0005nb-Mt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPoD1-0006DC-VD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPoD1-0006D3-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:07 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPoCy-0008Pd-QQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:07 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.135.4.168 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 20:59:58 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c54910$923cf520$a8048751@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7b.43e60105.2f9d530b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:59:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.195 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear Markus, LF Group,

There was one problem I recall from when we were using WOLF a few years back - the decoder would not work on strong local sigs, and the solution was to turn the gain right down when receiving an audible signal - I believe Stewart was aware of that problem at the time, but I don't know whether he or Wolf have got round to fixing it since then.

The other thing that caused a few scratched heads was the need to calibrate both the receiver frequency error, and the sound card sample rate - otherwise, if the sample rate was out, it was possible to compensate for the frequency error, but then the bit clock of TX and RX would get out of step over a long integration period. This was mostly a problem when you were trying to copy a very weak signal.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:08 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPp7A-0001wU-D7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:08 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpBK-000L28-8H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpBK-000L25-5t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPp79-0000VH-SX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPp6a-0006UI-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPp6Z-0006U9-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:31 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPp6Y-00008L-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 18537 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 21:57:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2005 21:57:20 -0000 Message-ID: <00aa01c54910$32b5b240$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7b.43e60105.2f9d530b@aol.com> <001b01c54910$923cf520$a8048751@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:57:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Markus, et al, Jim's comments are absolutely true, but there is one more grain of information needed for transmitting! You must establish a separate sampling rate on the transmit side. A starting point will be the mirror image of the receive rate: if the receive is 8001 Hz, try 7999 for transmitting. The relation in my sound card is not exact, so I advise doing some experimentation. This is tricky if you are keying the transmitter phase directly with the "old" WOLF. The sound card approach should be a little simpler, as you can go by the frequency of your locally-monitored signal, assuming that you are keying the transmitter from another computer, or one with full duplex capability. When properly set up, a locally-monitored signal should show steady "jm" values, indicating no slips in framing, steadily increasing "pm" values, and increasing "q" values. If the "pm" readings jump in steps of 4096, back off the audio feed, as the detector is being overloaded. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:39:08 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPpkq-0003XP-6i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:39:08 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpoW-000GTh-Vo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:42:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpoW-000GTW-Mk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:42:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPpkp-0006uv-H6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:39:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPpke-0006ek-Iw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:38:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPpke-0006eb-5P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:38:56 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPpkc-0000Dx-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:38:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 1389 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 22:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2005 22:38:32 -0000 Message-ID: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:38:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES is back on 137.441 kHz tonight, with WOLF at 200 watts. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:28:22 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ0pC-0002jr-7p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:28:22 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ0sv-000Nnk-KX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:32:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ0sr-000Nlj-Ti for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:32:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ0p6-0008Nz-93 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:28:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ0o8-0000fR-K6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:27:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ0o8-0000fI-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:27:16 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ0o6-0002Ic-V2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:27:16 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050425102656012004kpgqe>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:27:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c54981$59a4ab60$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:27:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 24/25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No report - was transmitting WOLF mode overnight. A note from Brian indicates he'll be off for a couple days. If I see other TA signals on the DF6NM grabber I'll run captures. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:30:36 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ6Tk-0005cs-9x for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:30:36 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ6Xz-000N0R-H0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:34:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ6Xz-000N0K-7h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:34:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ6Th-00078A-92 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:30:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ6Sg-0001zS-Oa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:29:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ6Sg-0001zJ-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:29:30 +0100 Received: from fh1025.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.35] helo=n082.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ6Se-0003kJ-Sq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:29:30 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.232.42) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437CB2004A3006 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:29:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c549a2$a50f4c60$2ae8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:21:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.35 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: QRA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All

Tnx agn all reports. LOC is IO94SH so that you can work out the distance. Best reports currently are from 5B4 and YI

on CW.

73 De Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:35:19 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7UN-0007H3-AE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:35:19 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7U9-00033V-J8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:35:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7U9-00033S-Ga for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:35:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7U9-0002Oo-67 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:35:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7Tj-0002Hp-0I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:34:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7Ti-0002Hg-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:34:38 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ7Ti-00040G-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:34:38 +0100 Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DQ7Tg-0006vC-02; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:34:36 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SUg31kZZwewi322tNyMaIIGJtlyIYeBXpkAgM98hHgJHuj3pKTOM08@[84.133.117.70]) by fwd22.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DQ7TP-0pRnKC0; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:34:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:34:18 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SUg31kZZwewi322tNyMaIIGJtlyIYeBXpkAgM98hHgJHuj3pKTOM08 X-TOI-MSGID: 15866761-4885-4d49-bd06-b80c182170ba X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.81 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) > WD2XES is back on 137.441 kHz tonight, with WOLF at 200 watts. Best signal after 0300z. 73 Hartmut WOLF -q E:\Eigene Dateien\137\wav\Files\441\441-050424_25-0300.wav -r 11025 -f 791 -t 0.01 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.007 a: 0.3 dp: 90.6 ci: 0 cj: 0 H4HXR/DH8FOMTB* ? t: 48 f:-0.015 a: 0.9 dp: 88.1 ci:14 cj:172 4/8E3.X52X5 FR7 - t: 96 f:-0.015 a: 1.1 dp: 87.2 ci:14 cj:312 BT*YGINRZOJ45UC ? t: 192 f:-0.010 pm: 22 jm:321 q:-15.7 -7.6 HB0N88/HRTPCPSC ? t: 288 f:-0.010 pm: 44 jm:336 q: -6.0 -5.7 10B0RWLF 13744. - t: 384 f:-0.010 pm: 62 jm:336 q: -4.9 -4.7 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 480 f:-0.010 pm: 95 jm:337 q: -4.0 -4.2 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 576 f:-0.010 pm: 122 jm:337 q: -3.7 -4.0 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 672 f:-0.010 pm: 132 jm:337 q: -3.6 -3.6 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 768 f:-0.010 pm: 157 jm:337 q: -2.9 -2.8 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 864 f:-0.010 pm: 171 jm:337 q: -2.6 -2.3 XES WOLF 137441 - t: 960 f:-0.010 pm: 187 jm:337 q: -2.2 -2.1 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1056 f:-0.010 pm: 231 jm:337 q: -1.2 -1.0 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1152 f:-0.010 pm: 265 jm:336 q: -0.3 -0.1 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1248 f:-0.010 pm: 319 jm:336 q: 0.7 1.2 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1344 f:-0.010 pm: 393 jm:336 q: 1.7 2.3 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1440 f:-0.010 pm: 472 jm:336 q: 2.5 2.7 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1536 f:-0.010 pm: 549 jm:336 q: 3.4 3.4 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1632 f:-0.010 pm: 617 jm:336 q: 4.0 4.2 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1728 f:-0.010 pm: 655 jm:336 q: 4.2 4.5 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1824 f:-0.010 pm: 692 jm:336 q: 4.6 4.7 XES WOLF 137441 - t:1920 f:-0.010 pm: 707 jm:336 q: 4.7 4.6 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2016 f:-0.010 pm: 734 jm:336 q: 4.6 4.7 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2112 f:-0.010 pm: 766 jm:336 q: 4.6 4.9 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2208 f:-0.010 pm: 785 jm:336 q: 4.8 5.0 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2304 f:-0.010 pm: 826 jm:336 q: 4.8 4.9 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2400 f:-0.010 pm: 842 jm:336 q: 5.0 5.1 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2496 f:-0.010 pm: 870 jm:336 q: 5.2 5.3 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2592 f:-0.010 pm: 889 jm:336 q: 5.5 5.5 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2688 f:-0.010 pm: 903 jm:336 q: 5.8 5.5 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2784 f:-0.010 pm: 922 jm:336 q: 5.9 5.4 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2880 f:-0.010 pm: 923 jm:336 q: 6.0 5.6 XES WOLF 137441 - t:2976 f:-0.010 pm: 929 jm:336 q: 6.0 5.5 XES WOLF 137441 - t:3072 f:-0.010 pm: 930 jm:336 q: 6.1 5.6 XES WOLF 137441 - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:47:16 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7fw-0001Cz-13 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:47:16 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7es-0005uJ-B5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:47:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7es-0005u9-7e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:46:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7es-0000cB-2i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:46:10 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7ei-0002PK-Ah for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:46:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7eh-0002PB-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:45:59 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ7ee-000444-CI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:45:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 11111 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2005 17:45:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 25 Apr 2005 17:45:27 -0000 Message-ID: <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:56:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hartmut, Amazing. Anyone interested in a 15 watt run tonight? That would be 11 dB below normal. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:08 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7qS-0007yx-P5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:08 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7pe-0007CF-19 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQ7pd-0007C5-Md for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:57:17 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7rg-0006BW-0X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:59:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7pS-0002UQ-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:57:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7pS-0002UH-BN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:57:06 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ7pR-00047n-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:57:06 +0100 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DQ7pQ-0005Hy-01; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:57:04 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SOjAJkZTgeusV+rKVNmU2oKU3JHidfwGmZH31GZ3eqXXgXlGx41cYO@[84.133.117.70]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DQ7pJ-0orluy0; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:56:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:56:52 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SOjAJkZTgeusV+rKVNmU2oKU3JHidfwGmZH31GZ3eqXXgXlGx41cYO X-TOI-MSGID: 564fe8ee-ce21-42db-a9d9-df964a74ce62 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.81 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) John, I'm interested. The usual frequency? Hartmut > Hartmut, > Amazing. Anyone interested in a 15 watt run tonight? That would be 11 dB > below normal. > John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:08:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ80U-0003Ez-Iw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:08:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ82F-000P4w-OV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ82F-000P4t-Lu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ7yR-0000vj-8T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:06:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7yD-0002cC-24 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:06:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.20] (helo=relay.omnieng.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ7yC-0002c3-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:06:08 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.omnieng.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DQ7xt-0002AX-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:05:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 11538 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2005 18:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 25 Apr 2005 18:05:12 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:16:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.omnieng.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hartmut, > I'm interested. The usual frequency? Yes, it seems to be pretty good on both sides. 137.441 kHz, 15 watt WOLF, starting around 2230 UTC. My local sunset is now at 2340 UTC. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:08 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ88q-0003Sq-DZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:08 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ8D8-0000S9-JG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:21:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQ8D8-0000S6-Gc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:21:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQ88p-0007Vw-VC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ88a-0002jl-SO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:16:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQ88a-0002jc-HI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:16:52 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQ88Y-0004Gj-WC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:16:52 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3PIGbQq011689 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:46:38 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j3PIGYTW021079 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:46:34 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j3PIGYbf013902; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:46:34 -0230 (NDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:46:33 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> Message-ID: References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.153.232.65 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of morgan.ucs.mun.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hartmut John and Group, Good luck with your attempt tonight! Having looked at the web page on WOLF that John recently provided, it seems this is a very interesting mode. Joe VO1NA On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, John Andrews wrote: > Hartmut, > > > I'm interested. The usual frequency? > > Yes, it seems to be pretty good on both sides. 137.441 kHz, 15 watt WOLF, > starting around 2230 UTC. My local sunset is now at 2340 UTC. > > John Andrews > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:32 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQAB2-0001g1-15 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:32 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQAEq-000ClE-MJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:31:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQAEq-000ClB-I8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:31:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQAB1-0002Ou-79 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQAAa-0003Gv-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQAAZ-0003Gm-JN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:03 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQAAY-0004xm-NV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:27:03 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.96.260bf7b5 (2519) for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:26:51 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <96.260bf7b5.2f9eac8b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:26:51 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.204 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again, ADC Dynamic Range Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050401000209080802050000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050401000209080802050000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear John,

three blocks were decoded successfully in Nuernberg, at 01:23, 03:09 and 03:41 UT:

t:1920 f: 0.029 pm:    7 jm:665 q: -1.4 -4.6 XES WOLF 137441 -

Propagation appeared to be well above average, with both WD2XGJ and VO1NA visible in good quality between midnight and about 04:45 (see image below).

I could also decode these sections of your transmission from an all-night audio recording, decimated to 86.14 Hz samplerate at 8 bits, using the original DOS version of WOLF. At first there was not enough gain, "pm" stayed zero and "f" stuck to the lower tolerance limit (-0.2Hz). Recognizing your comment about audio gain, I then "hendrixized" the file by running it through the sndrec32 "louder by 25%" function several times, and voila, suddenly it decoded alright, with pm increasing in 3 to 5 unit steps. Apparently there is some threshold in Stewart's decoder, which does not allow it to recognize low-level signals, even if they would be well above the (quantization and other) noise.

However for live audio, I cannot increase the gain much here, as I have several strong signals in the full SSB passband needed for the grabber (SXV, DCF39 on the edge, DK1IS, DK7SU and others). Thus my ADC full scale is normally set to approximately 100 µV/m, with 16-bit digitizing.

Interestingly, experiments have verified that even an 8-bit soundcard setting gives more than adequate dynamic range. The quantization noise level would be
Nq = +40 - 8 * 6.02 - 1.76 - 10 log(11025/2) dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz) = -47.3 dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz),
still 20 dB below the minimum noise background of -27 dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz), observed on very quiet sunday mornings.

Are you really sure you want to go down to 15 Watts, and what is your ERP then? Well, we'll see what we can do ;-)

Good luck, 73

Markus
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <96.260bf7b5.2f9eac8b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:19:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again, ADC Dynamic Range Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Markus and all, WOLF keeps an array of "reference match power" values for each possible frame offset and frequency. The highest value in this array is displayed as "pm", and its index is used to attempt decoding. When I first wrote this about five years ago, I made a stupid decision to save some memory by storing these values in 16-bit integers. With -t set to 10 Hz, there are about 2 million entries, and I thought that saving 4 megabytes (vs. using 32-bit floats) would allow WOLF to run on some older machines. I naively thought that the received audio would always be mostly noise, so dynamic range would not be a problem. As a result, if the gain is limited by strong carriers in the passband, then the pm values all get quantized to zero and WOLF does not know what frequency or frame timing to use. However, in his recent GUI releases, Wolf DL4YHF changed the match tables to use 32-bit floats, so I would expect that this dynamic range problem should be gone (these days, an extra 4 MB is insignificant). If you still have trouble using Wolf's latest code, let us know; perhaps there is another quantizing bug hiding in there. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again, ADC Dynamic Range Dear John, three blocks were decoded successfully in Nuernberg, at 01:23, 03:09 and 03:41 UT: t:1920 f: 0.029 pm: 7 jm:665 q: -1.4 -4.6 XES WOLF 137441 - Propagation appeared to be well above average, with both WD2XGJ and VO1NA visible in good quality between midnight and about 04:45 (see image below). I could also decode these sections of your transmission from an all-night audio recording, decimated to 86.14 Hz samplerate at 8 bits, using the original DOS version of WOLF. At first there was not enough gain, "pm" stayed zero and "f" stuck to the lower tolerance limit (-0.2Hz). Recognizing your comment about audio gain, I then "hendrixized" the file by running it through the sndrec32 "louder by 25%" function several times, and voila, suddenly it decoded alright, with pm increasing in 3 to 5 unit steps. Apparently there is some threshold in Stewart's decoder, which does not allow it to recognize low-level signals, even if they would be well above the (quantization and other) noise. However for live audio, I cannot increase the gain much here, as I have several strong signals in the full SSB passband needed for the grabber (SXV, DCF39 on the edge, DK1IS, DK7SU and others). Thus my ADC full scale is normally set to approximately 100 µV/m, with 16-bit digitizing. Interestingly, experiments have verified that even an 8-bit soundcard setting gives more than adequate dynamic range. The quantization noise level would be Nq = +40 - 8 * 6.02 - 1.76 - 10 log(11025/2) dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz) = -47.3 dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz), still 20 dB below the minimum noise background of -27 dBµV/m/sqrt(Hz), observed on very quiet sunday mornings. Are you really sure you want to go down to 15 Watts, and what is your ERP then? Well, we'll see what we can do ;-) Good luck, 73 Markus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:00:30 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQBd0-0008KE-EW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:00:30 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQBcY-0000TD-ND for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:00:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQBcY-0000T1-HU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:00:02 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQBcX-0007aM-TQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:00:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQBbo-0003oc-MV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQBbo-0003oT-Bg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQBbm-0005W6-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.89.172 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2005 21:59:08 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c549e2$06380ba0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:58:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.141 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi John, I will be "listening" again with the same params as last night which seemed quite successful. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: 25 April 2005 19:16 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again > Hartmut, > > > I'm interested. The usual frequency? > > Yes, it seems to be pretty good on both sides. 137.441 kHz, 15 watt WOLF, > starting around 2230 UTC. My local sunset is now at 2340 UTC. > > John Andrews > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:04:16 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQL3H-0005pt-Vi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:04:16 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQL7f-000DOX-GQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:08:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQL7f-000DOU-E3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:08:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQL3H-00081H-5U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:04:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQL1r-0006Or-0T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:02:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQL1q-0006Oi-MT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:02:46 +0100 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.146]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQL1o-0007Pz-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:02:46 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050426080225.YFVU21916.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:02:25 +1200 Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.80.144]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050426080224.JKOM4494.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:02:24 +1200 Message-ID: <000c01c54a36$47031180$905037d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:01:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of xtra.co.nz designates 210.86.15.146 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hello all, I have been away for a few days but now ready to listen again. I will run Wolf Rx on 137.441 overnight. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:53 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQMJI-0008NX-IS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:52 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQMNg-0008Ef-MS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:29:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQMNg-0008Ec-KE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:29:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQMJH-0006gk-Pl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQMIs-0006nl-57 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQMIr-0006nc-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:25 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQMIo-0007hg-3e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:24:25 +0100 Received: by fmmailgate05.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j3Q9Nrwl003281 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:24:16 +0200 Received: from [217.248.188.6] by freemailng1804.web.de with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:24:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:24:15 +0200 Message-Id: <344409290@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.72.192.243 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of web.de X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY=0.151,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML=0.205 Subject: LF: Divider by 10 or 100 for 136k out from DK 8 ND Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030808080608060500040505" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030808080608060500040505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" schrieb am 26.04.05 11:12:31: > > > > > Dear Andre, > thank You for the hint. > In the meantime I hav found, that the IC 4017 has an aux-Bit output. 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Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:26:22 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005042610260501100en2u7e>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:26:10 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c54a4a$5a617960$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:26:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.55 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net Subject: LF: TA APR 25/26 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080406070702050700060902" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080406070702050700060902 Content-Type: text/html; 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Was transmitting 1-watt 185.450 kHz wolf until 0200Z in the hopes that Hartmut can pull a rabbit (or is that a wolf) out of his hat. Switching over to receive, DJ8"WX" was already making white lines and remained visible (other than a short fade) until fadeout at 0500Z.

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Dear friends,

         DI2AG on 440.044KHz is now QRV in DFCW with a 4Hz gap. Will transmit with 0.5W ERP this night and change from DFCW3 to DFCW30 at 22Z.

Your report is very welcome.

73   Walter DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:34:21 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQTwz-00005b-Rq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:34:21 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQTyn-000MSh-Rb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:36:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQTyn-000MSe-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:36:13 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQTuq-00075G-TK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:32:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQTuV-0000jn-GI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:31:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQTuV-0000je-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:31:47 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQTuO-0001dJ-Ti for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:31:47 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.12f.5c1269f5 (15876) for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mblk-r23 (mblk-r23.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.13]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID73-3e04426e7aef299; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:31:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:31:22 -0400 Message-Id: <8C7189CE67E4FAD-A98-CA95@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> From: markusvester@aol.com References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> Received: from 217.194.34.125 by mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.13) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:31:22 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.12281 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.13 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.35 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi John, Stewart and LF,

excellent signals from XGJ (0:30 to 4:30) and VO1NA (2:00 to 3:30, slightly weaker). However nil copy of the WOLF 15-watter from XES.

Thanks to Stewart for the explanations on the matched power array. Does that mean you have to do two million 960-point correlations per receive block to fill it?

73

Markus, DF6NM

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:48:10 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQUAM-0002Nq-5E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:48:10 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQUEn-000M6u-SJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQUEn-000M6r-Q2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQUAL-0005lX-DC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:48:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQUA5-0000ts-55 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:47:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQUA4-0000tj-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:47:52 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQUA2-0001iu-3s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:47:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 30312 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2005 17:47:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2005 17:47:46 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c54a89$a30b9f30$4d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> <8C7189CE67E4FAD-A98-CA95@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Markus, Thanks for trying for the WOLF copy last night. Alan appears to have won the 15 watt prize, unless Hartmut manages to extract something from the noise! Given the vagaries of fading, and the excellent conditions right now, I don't think that I will stick with the QRP approach. Small miracles may be possible, but they might prove difficult to reproduce. XES will be back to 200 watts output tonight, with WOLF on 137.441 kHz, starting at 2230 UTC. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:51:14 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQW5S-0007yk-6r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:51:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQW9u-0000dT-NU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:55:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQW9u-0000dQ-KL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:55:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQW5R-00084U-LK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:51:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQW4z-0001Uf-AO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:50:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQW4y-0001UW-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:50:44 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQW4x-0002Bu-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:50:44 +0100 Received: from fwd19.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DQW4w-0006kI-00; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:50:42 +0200 Received: from HW1 (SgcLioZJreOwJ52xvdDMnw8V4XHfECJju4KTDfhQKMs96-VgvazEgO@[84.133.110.108]) by fwd19.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DQW4s-0NxjFI0; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:50:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:50:28 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <95803269.20050426215028@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <001601c54a89$a30b9f30$4d01a8c0@JKA> References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> <8C7189CE67E4FAD-A98-CA95@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> <001601c54a89$a30b9f30$4d01a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: SgcLioZJreOwJ52xvdDMnw8V4XHfECJju4KTDfhQKMs96-VgvazEgO X-TOI-MSGID: e5cf502a-6720-4535-a779-ff51e1c56fde X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.83 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) John, > Thanks for trying for the WOLF copy last night. Alan appears to have won the > 15 watt prize, unless Hartmut manages to extract something from the noise! Nil copy of the 15 watt signal. Will continue monitor 137.441. Hartmut From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:05:19 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWJ4-0000rK-VB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:05:19 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQWHQ-00006o-NH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:05:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQWHQ-00006f-FJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWHP-0001J2-RC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWHD-0001cq-KQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWHD-0001ch-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:23 +0100 Received: from bay21-f26.bay21.hotmail.com ([65.54.233.115] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQWHA-0002Eo-Nw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:23 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:03:14 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 15.235.153.98 by by21fd.bay21.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:03:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [15.235.153.98] X-Originating-Email: [ariomao@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ariomao@hotmail.com From: "Alberto Riomao" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:03:14 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2005 20:03:14.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAD99670:01C54A9A] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 65.54.233.115 as permitted sender Subject: LF: WG - selective level meter SPM-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello all, I bought a very old and used Wandel & Goltermann - selective level meter SPM-3 (selektiver pegelmesser 2~612KHz), but I think the filter is too narrow, because I tune it in some airport beacons and I can not listen the CW, only a high frequency noise. Does anyone know any modifications for this equipment? (I only found filter mods to other brands...) Thank you, Alberto Riomao - PY2ZL _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger: converse online com seus amigos . http://messenger.msn.com.br From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:14 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWLu-00041v-Du for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQWQN-0005Bd-4L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:12:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQWQN-0005Ba-1D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:12:51 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWLt-0001aD-HO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWLm-0001hu-Pi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWLm-0001hl-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:06 +0100 Received: from sterling.noc-servers.net ([69.93.216.2]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQWLk-0002GU-T7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:08:06 +0100 Received: from [192.55.122.100] (helo=w2ksn) by sterling.noc-servers.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DQWLj-0003VY-Pc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:08:04 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c54a9b$ccaca520$1101a8c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> <8C7189CE67E4FAD-A98-CA95@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:09:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sterling.noc-servers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - scgroup.com X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 69.93.216.2 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Markus and all, > Does that mean you have to do two million 960-point correlations per receive block to fill it? No, the complex baseband signal is "despread" in 960 positions by multiplying by the shifted reference pattern. When the correct shift is chosen, the result should be a carrier (of unknown frequency and phase). An FFT is done on each despread result, and the magnitude from each bin is added into the pm array. While much faster than the brute force approach, this is still pretty slow and accounts for most of the run time. That would be greatly reduced in a system with time sync. Even if the clocks were set manually and the system had to search +/- 1 second, it would still save about 98% of the FFTs. The Viterbi decode would be the biggest remaining computation hog; I would guess that the total processing time would be 1 to 2 seconds per block. Without time sync, one could still improve by perhaps a factor of four, by replacing the naive FFT function with a professionally written one, such as FFTW or the Intel SPL. Those packages have some licensing restrictions which would then apply to WOLF. IMO, it would not be a problem for typical ham uses. 73, Stewart KK7KA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:17:13 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWUb-00018J-D4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:17:13 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQWWv-000786-0X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:19:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQWWu-000781-PS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:19:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWSR-00032O-L7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWSE-0001qO-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWSD-0001qF-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:45 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQWSC-0002Ia-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:45 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.102.25 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2005 20:14:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c54a9c$9b4d1180$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:14:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: WG - selective level meter SPM-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Alberto the filter is a 100Hz wide filter which should be ok for CW. It sounds as though your unit has a problem. Do you have a manual and circuit ?? I can send you a PDF file if you need it as an attachment to a direct e-mail. The main problem that most have found is that the IF is 1500Hz so the note is rather high. There are a number of ways of converting that down including some soundcard software by Alberto of ARGO fame. 73 de ALan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Riomao" To: Sent: 26 April 2005 21:03 Subject: LF: WG - selective level meter SPM-3 > Hello all, > > > I bought a very old and used Wandel & Goltermann - selective level meter > SPM-3 (selektiver pegelmesser 2~612KHz), but I think the filter is too > narrow, because I tune it in some airport beacons and I can not listen the > CW, only a high frequency noise. > > Does anyone know any modifications for this equipment? (I only found filter > mods to other brands...) > > > > > Thank you, > Alberto Riomao - PY2ZL > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger: converse online com seus amigos . > http://messenger.msn.com.br > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:31 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWys-0002Zi-VA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQX2q-000LiN-Bd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:52:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQX2q-000LiK-9I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:52:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQWys-0007QN-5I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWyd-00023P-PE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQWyd-00023G-BK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:15 +0100 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQWya-0002RP-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:48:15 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.191.3e15f37b (3866) for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <191.3e15f37b.2fa00301@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:48:01 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.6 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: DI2AG frequencies Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Walter,

my reading of DI2AG now is 440040.79 / 440036.78 Hz dash/dot (DFCW3). Especially for slower speeds, I would probably prefer a much smaller shift, like 1 Hz or less, if possible.

Best of luck, 73
- Markus

walter.staubach@fen-net.de wrote:

Dear friends,
         DI2AG on 440.044KHz is now QRV in DFCW with a 4Hz gap. Will transmit with 0.5W ERP this night and change from DFCW3 to DFCW30 at 22Z.
Your report is very welcome.
73   Walter DJ2LF

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:15:27 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQglb-00064d-0U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:15:27 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQgpc-000Jfw-Df for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:19:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQgpc-000Jfr-Ak for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:19:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQgla-0005eN-D5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:15:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQgkz-0003cb-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:14:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQgky-0003cS-Ng for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:14:48 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQgkx-0004i9-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:14:48 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.1f7.894b8e9 (4254) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1f7.894b8e9.2fa095db@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:14:35 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.36 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: TA April 26/27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Group,

despite very low Kp and moderate static noise level, I got only weak traces of XGJ and NA between 3:15 and 4:40, and no WOLF copy on 137441.

73, have a nice day

Markus
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:05:01 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQjPh-0005FQ-M2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:05:01 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQjTj-000CYf-Ve for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:09:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQjTj-000CYW-Qt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:09:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQjPg-0007qk-U2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:05:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQjPD-0003uk-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:04:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQjPD-0003ub-JG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:04:31 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQjP9-0005Ne-5l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:04:31 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005042710041901400fkb4ue>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:04:19 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:04:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Very brief appearance of WX around 0300Z...otherwise nil. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:57:00 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQkE0-00086g-5w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:57:00 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQkIW-000OpH-Qz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:01:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQkIW-000OpE-My for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:01:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQkDx-0001b2-JD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:56:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQkDi-00042o-Nu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:56:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQkDg-00042f-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:56:40 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQkDf-0005bM-1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:56:40 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 10:56:33 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:57:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLF9fCszLVyju9SaKmYkosAgRHBw== X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Message-Id: Subject: LF: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear all. Well I seem to have this Wolf stuff cracked now. Copied WD2XES well last night and the TX is working OK too. If anyone would like a Wolf beacon signal to check their receive setup let me know. 73 Dave G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:53:14 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQl6Q-0006a1-7O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:53:14 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQl5j-0000WK-Tr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:53:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQl5j-0000WH-RH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:52:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQl7w-0004uW-Co for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:54:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQl5K-0004AR-5f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:52:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQl5J-0004AI-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:52:05 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQl5F-0005vm-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:52:05 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050427115154016002i8n4e>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:51:54 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c54b1f$78453cc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:51:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.64 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net Subject: LF: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Dave Should you have a hankering to try transmitting WOLF on a TA path I can keep an eye open on this side. Jay, W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: LF: Wolf tests > Dear all. > > Well I seem to have this Wolf stuff cracked now. Copied WD2XES well last > night and the TX is working OK too. > If anyone would like a Wolf beacon signal to check their receive setup let > me know. > > 73 > > Dave G3YXM > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:00:13 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQlDB-0003Nl-Hp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:00:13 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQlHk-000LtX-LB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:04:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQlHk-000LtU-Iw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:04:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQlDA-0003N5-Uj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:00:13 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQlCu-0004Ff-T1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:59:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQlCu-0004FW-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:59:56 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQlCq-0005yu-Th for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:59:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 8972 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c54b18$3aade3a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c54b1f$78453cc0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:59:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > Should you have a hankering to try transmitting WOLF on a TA path I can > keep an eye open on this side. And my shack needs to be cooled off, too, so I'd be happy to listen for any TA WOLF activity. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:36 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQm7g-0001eX-Ex for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:36 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQmBj-000GAY-Ii for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:02:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQmBj-000GAV-GV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:02:47 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQm7f-00029O-Ei for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:35 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQm7D-0004Nl-0w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:07 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQm7C-0004Nc-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:06 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQm78-0006DT-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:06 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 12:57:56 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:58:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLIKsCz7o+wtIwQIG+2q7bOMtFBwAB/y3Q In-Reply-To: <003401c54b18$3aade3a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.142 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I'm willing to give it a try. What frequency would be good for you? Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 27 April 2005 12:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Re: Wolf tests > Should you have a hankering to try transmitting WOLF on a TA path I > can keep an eye open on this side. And my shack needs to be cooled off, too, so I'd be happy to listen for any TA WOLF activity. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:17:13 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQmPh-0007EG-Iy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:17:13 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQmUG-000Hqy-TC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:21:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQmUG-000Hqq-Ks for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:21:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQmPg-0002QI-Hy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:17:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQmPT-0004TC-1a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:16:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQmPS-0004T3-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:16:58 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQmPN-0006Lk-TE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:16:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 24415 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2005 13:16:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2005 13:16:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c54b2c$f8d0e0d0$4d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:28:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, > I'm willing to give it a try. > What frequency would be good for you? The 137.441 kHz frequency has generally worked well on both sides, though I chose it more for EU than North American reasons. 137.422 kHz is clear of Loran-C over a lot of the U.S., and might be the best choice for a TA experiment. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:40:15 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQni2-0004bj-Sx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:40:14 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQnm6-000LKo-Us for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:44:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQnm6-000LKl-SF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:44:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQni2-0001cA-4Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:40:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQnhW-0004bs-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:39:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQnhV-0004bj-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:39:41 +0100 Received: from bay102-f39.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.49] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQnhT-0006kT-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:39:41 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:39:33 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:39:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:39:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 14:39:33.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED785290:01C54B36] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.49 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: Wolf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Any pointers of how well Wolf works co-channel wise? - here Im thinking of a Wolf Wateringhole where mutiple stations operate within a window - Not too sure how well it works with say three signals about the same (weak) strength within say 10hz - Im presuming we should stay say 15Hz separated given the spread of this mode? Here on my TS870 I set the Rx to SSB USB 137.000 and rx centre freq to 441Hz on the GUI for XES - I ran three windows of the GUI on my 700Mhz Thinkpad for XES and didnt have any issues so it looks like I could attempt receive more than one station at a time, certainly so far without crashing the device - This mode is pretty amazing in its ability to be received; my noiz level was a constant 20 over 9 last night with nasty lightning and increased "base" noiz - I had a lock on BIG WOLF John, who isnt exactly next door, within 288 secs. At the same time I ran multiple windows (Argo et al) of the Spectrum around Johns freq - I visually couldnt detect part of his spectrum at any speed! LAurence KL1X/5 em26aq From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQomQ-0000RA-3T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:50 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQor0-000FKg-La for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQoqz-000FKF-Te for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQooc-0004sN-M7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:51:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQolt-0004ph-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQols-0004pY-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:16 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQolo-00075h-BT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:16 +0100 Received: from fwd25.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DQoln-0006Ng-02; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:11 +0200 Received: from HW1 (Gc-dQ0ZZ8ep-WLMsgiw2tSb6kj62IJ71-BDXoLdgKBqMGTCyQ38O0q@[84.133.114.158]) by fwd25.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DQold-08BcHY0; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:47:58 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7310725254.20050427174758@t-online.de> To: John Andrews In-Reply-To: <001601c54a89$a30b9f30$4d01a8c0@JKA> References: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> <1862867986.20050425193418@t-online.de> <002901c549c0$226b6820$4d01a8c0@JKA> <894208480.20050425195652@t-online.de> <003001c549c2$e4aeef40$4d01a8c0@JKA> <8C7189CE67E4FAD-A98-CA95@mblk-r23.sysops.aol.com> <001601c54a89$a30b9f30$4d01a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: Gc-dQ0ZZ8ep-WLMsgiw2tSb6kj62IJ71-BDXoLdgKBqMGTCyQ38O0q X-TOI-MSGID: dc8fb68a-934d-4d94-9037-559ff2bb8a5a X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: WOLF Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > XES will be back to 200 watts output tonight, with WOLF on 137.441 kHz, > starting at 2230 UTC. Copied the WOLF transmission 2345-0300z. Captures also from VO1NA and WD2XGJ can be seen: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:31 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQoqx-0003Ow-5K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:31 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQovX-000Hde-Kz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQovX-000HdZ-Fd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQoqw-0003wY-9U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQoqm-0004tU-QX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQoqm-0004tL-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:20 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQoqk-00077a-2n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:20 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 15:53:12 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:53:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLK2y+PAjkPbWIReymR462CEP2wgAFZjIg In-Reply-To: <000401c54b2c$f8d0e0d0$4d01a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) John and co. I'll run it overnight on 137.422 then at 300W or so. Let's hope conditions are still OK Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 27 April 2005 14:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Dave, > I'm willing to give it a try. > What frequency would be good for you? The 137.441 kHz frequency has generally worked well on both sides, though I chose it more for EU than North American reasons. 137.422 kHz is clear of Loran-C over a lot of the U.S., and might be the best choice for a TA experiment. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:52:35 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQpm7-0007ov-2H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:52:35 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQpit-0007QL-15 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:52:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQpis-0007QI-Rr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:49:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQpis-0005Rp-N7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:49:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQpiQ-00051j-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQpiQ-00051a-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:46 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQpiL-0007MS-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:46 +0100 Received: from [194.97.55.191] (helo=mx7.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DQpi7-0001eM-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:48:27 +0200 Received: from td9091b76.pool.terralink.de ([217.9.27.118] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx7.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DQpi7-0004Gv-5Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:48:27 +0200 Message-ID: <426FC26F.1010609@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:48:47 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de Subject: Re: LF: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Dave, Glad to hear that ... what caused the trouble, and how did you crack it ? I am looking for any kind of feedback, to write an FAQ list or something in that style, once I find the time to write down some documentation for the WOLF user interface. Regards, Wolf(gang) DL4YHF . Dave Pick schrieb: >Dear all. > >Well I seem to have this Wolf stuff cracked now. Copied WD2XES well last >night and the TX is working OK too. >If anyone would like a Wolf beacon signal to check their receive setup let >me know. > >73 > >Dave G3YXM > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:21:18 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQqDu-0004WP-Hc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:21:18 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQqDC-00068x-EM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:21:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQqDC-00068r-9J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQqDC-000233-3r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQqCk-00057t-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQqCj-00057k-Qn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:05 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQqCf-0007WU-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:05 +0100 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DQqCe-0005Zg-02; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:20:00 +0200 Received: from (r9Br40ZDwez+SYFql4zipL7AVLxqDbFnwTJfYoO7E6OyaRfP6nhIZi@[217.251.195.81]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1DQqCT-2EK9K40; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:19:49 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:19:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: r9Br40ZDwez+SYFql4zipL7AVLxqDbFnwTJfYoO7E6OyaRfP6nhIZi X-TOI-MSGID: 573bf6f2-d0ea-434e-92c0-d1a6a6f10660 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Jay Rusgrove schrieb: > Very brief appearance of WX around 0300Z...otherwise nil. > > Jay, W1VD > Hi Jay and group, DJ8WX will be transmitting this nite in mode Jason slow on 135,9222kHz with abt 200mW ERP. The ERP in mode CW was 1W. If interested, you have to jump from Daves 137,422kHz WOLF to the above mentioned Jason QRG. GL Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:55 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQqFT-0008LY-3d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:55 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQqJY-000K54-5G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:27:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQqJY-000K51-36 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:27:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQqFS-0006c3-JW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQqFM-0005Bj-2g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQqFL-0005BY-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:47 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQqFI-0007Y0-BO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:47 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-51-178.access.as9105.com ([80.43.51.178]:2120 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DQqFC-0001HL-SW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:22:38 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF $Rsgb LF Group$" Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:23:05 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.47 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.365 Subject: LF: G3YXM WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Dave, Just received your WOLF signal OK, my first ! Did not check the time, it must have been shortly after 1700z. The trace looks quite broad on the receive decoder screen but copy 100% but of course it should be as signal was audible. 17:12:53 >WOLF -r 8000 -f 810.5 -t 0.5 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.113 a: 0.4 dp:147.8 ci:14 cj:266 TEST G3YXM WOLF - t: 48 f: 0.114 a: 0.3 dp:148.0 ci:13 cj:266 TEST G3YXM WOLF - t: 96 f: 0.116 a: 0.0 dp:147.3 ci:12 cj:266 TEST G3YXM WOLF - Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:52 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQssx-0000jo-Vq for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:52 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQsx4-00081T-6E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQsx4-00081Q-3d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQssx-0002sO-EI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQssS-0005Po-WB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQssS-0005Pf-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:20 +0100 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQssR-0008Gr-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:11:20 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005042720110201200dgfise>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:11:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c54b65$bbd1dc00$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:14:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.202.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thanks for the heads up. Will be looking for both of you.

Jay, W1VD

----- Original Message -----

From: jannsen

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 26/27

Jay Rusgrove schrieb:
> Very brief appearance of WX around 0300Z...otherwise nil.
>
> Jay, W1VD
>
Hi Jay and group,

DJ8WX will be transmitting this nite in mode Jason slow on 135,9222kHz with
abt 200mW ERP. The ERP in mode CW was 1W.

If interested, you have to jump from Daves 137,422kHz WOLF to the above
mentioned Jason QRG.

GL
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:28:22 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQu50-0003G8-Fc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:28:22 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQu97-00032B-2v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:32:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQu96-000322-UY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:32:36 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQu4z-0003qV-Sf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:28:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQu4U-0005bo-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:27:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQu4U-0005bf-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:27:50 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQu4S-00009g-TM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:27:50 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@217.42.137.82 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:27:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.196 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, What time will you start transmitting? (Sorted out the calibration of my sound card, now!) Cheers. Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick Sent: 27 April 2005 16:54 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests John and co. I'll run it overnight on 137.422 then at 300W or so. Let's hope conditions are still OK Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 27 April 2005 14:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Dave, > I'm willing to give it a try. > What frequency would be good for you? The 137.441 kHz frequency has generally worked well on both sides, though I chose it more for EU than North American reasons. 137.422 kHz is clear of Loran-C over a lot of the U.S., and might be the best choice for a TA experiment. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:38 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQuLi-0007Z7-KO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:38 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DQuLa-0000Pe-V1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQuLa-0000Pb-S0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQuNq-0004Ci-1A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:47:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQuLQ-0005hq-5l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQuLP-0005hh-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:19 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQuLO-0000Dr-FG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:19 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 21:45:12 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:45:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLcAmi8ZJH3SIyTS6Co5S/nftOFQAAjDbA X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.138 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) About 2200 gmt I think. I've left the gear on all day so it shouldn't drift! Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- Dave, What time will you start transmitting? (Sorted out the calibration of my sound card, now!) Cheers. Dave G3WCB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:11:21 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQukb-0003F5-1I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:11:21 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQupE-0009xi-Al for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:16:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQupE-0009xZ-3Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:16:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQuka-0008W2-8H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:11:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQukF-0005oD-SK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:10:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQukF-0005o4-Hs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:10:59 +0100 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQukE-0000Ju-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:10:59 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.c8.5ddd4345 (25305) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:10:49 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:10:49 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.1 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Dave and Uwe,

t: 192 f: 0.010 pm:91.28 jm:654 q: 6.8 6.8 G3YXM IO92BK    -

perfect copy of G3YXM on 137422, right from the beginning, and also Jason from DJ8WX around 135922.2.

Good luck, 73

Markus, DF6NM in JN59NK
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:55:24 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQvRE-00052z-Be for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:55:24 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQvVr-000Iaa-Rk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:00:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DQvVr-000IaS-Ma for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:00:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DQvRD-0005P3-JM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:55:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DQvQp-0005va-7Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:54:59 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DQvQo-0005vR-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:54:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DQvQm-0000Si-Mv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:54:58 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01.mbox.net [165.212.64.31]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D43781F1 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:54:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:54:49 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID153JDAw3x8684X01 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.46.49.110] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 350JDAw3U0217M29; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:54:47 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.49.110 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <4270183B.5050203@usa.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:54:51 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID350JDAw3v0217X29 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.31 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.473,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.045,MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.158 Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040806090909030709000302" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040806090909030709000302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jannsen wrote:

DJ8WX will be transmitting this nite in mode Jason slow on 135,9222kHz with abt 200mW ERP. The ERP in mode CW was 1W.

Uwe,
very good copy here in JN45SL, but the distance between us is not that much...

The XOX error above was caused by a small tuning adjustment.
RX : JRC NRD-525   Ant: inverted V for the 40m band.

73 Alberto I2PHD

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If interested, you have to jump from Daves 137,422kHz WOLF to the above mentioned Jason QRG.

Very good copy also of Dave's transmission, thanks to Wolf's DL4YHF GUI version of the
Wolf program.

As in the previous message, RX JRC NRD-525, antenna : inverted V for the 40m band.

73 Alberto I2PHD

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SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 08:24:47 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:24:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLx/yxXSutrSE0QNKs3+MOxKW3WQAA2qOg In-Reply-To: <42709754.40407@mail.ru> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: G3YXM WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Dmitry Yes the Wolf signal doesn't show up well on Argo as the energy is distributed over about 10Hz. I just looks like a fuzzy band of noise. Signal was about 6dB down on my usual level. Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dmitri Sent: 28 April 2005 08:57 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3YXM WOLF Hi Dave, Your wolf signal invisible in Argo. Dmitry RA3YO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:10 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR634-0006mb-0K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:10 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DR632-0004vw-F2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DR632-0004vt-B0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR632-0001x2-3L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DR62M-0006yR-U3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DR62M-0006yI-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:26 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR62L-0002cV-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:26 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050428101417015004kdtte>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:14:18 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c54bda$f8a45480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:13:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net Subject: LF: TA APR 27/28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Capture problems after about 0400Z but nil up to that point. Static levels last night the worst of the year so far. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:02 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR6di-0006zP-6Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:02 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR6ht-000FpC-Nw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:57:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR6ht-000Fp9-L0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:57:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR6dh-0006z4-M6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DR6dU-00074v-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:52:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DR6dT-00074m-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:52:47 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR6dS-0002kM-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:52:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 13279 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 10:52:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 10:52:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c54bd8$04ed3200$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c54bda$f8a45480$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:52:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 27/28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) No WOLF results here either. The noise levels should be better tonight after the departure of yesterday's storm. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:37 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR8td-00073O-4v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:37 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR8vU-000K36-6K for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:19:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR8vU-000K33-2z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:19:32 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR8rH-0007b1-4V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:15:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DR8ql-0007JT-4V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:14:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DR8qk-0007JK-P1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:14:38 +0100 Received: from fh1022.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.32] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR8qi-0003CS-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:14:38 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.152) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 424375870073D657 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:14:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c54b1f$06ce9b40$98e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:47:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.32 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.302,HTML_60_70=0.027,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: SCOPEMATCH Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Hello Jim/M0BMU and all.

Could you pse send me a copy of your cct for the interface Scopematch that you use for antenna matching etc.

I do not have the handbook with the article. I have a double beam scope and may as well use it.

73 and tnx de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:58:07 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR9Wp-0000hk-MC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:58:07 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9TO-0006eI-4m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:58:07 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9TO-0006eF-1A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:54:34 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR9TN-0005GR-Q3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:54:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DR9T9-0007Qr-Ok for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:54:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DR9T9-0007Qi-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:54:19 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR9T7-0003Lx-Oc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:54:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 17266 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c54bfb$5f2964f0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:05:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: LF: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Upon further reflection, it would make sense to move the EU to NA WOLF transmissions down to the lower end of the band. With NA transmitting activity at the high end, this should help with receiving the weak signal(s). I would suggest 136.318 kHz, as it is fairly Loran-free at the NA end. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:48 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR9k4-0001Oy-Br for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:48 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR9oo-00019F-4k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:16:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DR9oo-00019C-2G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:16:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DR9k3-0001Oc-R1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DR9jk-0007WX-By for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DR9jj-0007WO-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:27 +0100 Received: from mail.nrtco.net ([216.168.96.52]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DR9ji-0003Q7-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:11:27 +0100 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar (nrtcorback-216-168-120-190.nrtco.net [216.168.120.190]) by mail.nrtco.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with SMTP id j3SEBCxT026966 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:11:12 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050428101123.00c63440@magma.ca> X-Sender: ve2iq@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:11:23 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <000901c54bfb$5f2964f0$8d01a8c0@JKA> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.168.96.52 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of magma.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 10:05 AM 4/28/2005 -0400, John wrote: >Upon further reflection, it would make sense to move the EU to NA WOLF >transmissions down to the lower end of the band. With NA transmitting >activity at the high end, this should help with receiving the weak >signal(s). > >I would suggest 136.318 kHz, as it is fairly Loran-free at the NA end. I'm also for a frequency change. No copy here last night either, but there seemed to be some other low-level signals very close to 137.422, even with a narrow search range - lots of apparent "lock-ins" by WOLF but no decoded copy. WOLF kept looking at signals (or a signal) at +/- 0.01 Hz away from the correct frequency - every now and then he'd get interested in the exact 0.000 frequency for a few cycles, but never for long enough to build up a good decode. Bill VE2IQ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:03:53 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRAYT-0000qC-Lv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:03:53 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRAXy-0005o5-FB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:03:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRAXy-0005nw-30 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:03:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRAXx-0000UM-Sr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:03:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRAXY-0007f6-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:02:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRAXY-0007ex-0h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:02:56 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.196]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRAXW-0003cG-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:02:56 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 15:02:49 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:02:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVL+k3azOVqZSTdRcifu31mHygATQACN1Fg In-Reply-To: <000901c54bfb$5f2964f0$8d01a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.196 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Is there a lower slot? I don't want to annoy all those nocturnal CW operators... Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 28 April 2005 15:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Upon further reflection, it would make sense to move the EU to NA WOLF transmissions down to the lower end of the band. With NA transmitting activity at the high end, this should help with receiving the weak signal(s). I would suggest 136.318 kHz, as it is fairly Loran-free at the NA end. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:49 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRCaD-0004wH-K3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:49 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRCeR-000Ln8-Dk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:18:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRCeR-000Ln5-BL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:18:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRCaD-0003QZ-46 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRCZm-0007rB-4V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRCZl-0007r2-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:21 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRCZk-00049P-7V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:13:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 30582 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 17:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 17:13:13 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c54c17$2aec3890$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:24:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, > Is there a lower slot? I don't want to annoy all those nocturnal CW > operators... Well, we certainly wouldn't want to annoy all of those guys, would we? A quick search doesn't turn up anything ideal, but 136.082 isn't too bad in the east. Given the increasing noise levels, this is probably an east coast project, anyway. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:54 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDVO-0007e0-AR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:54 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRDVK-0007pF-PK for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRDVK-0007pB-LZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDVK-0002Z8-GR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDUk-0007yd-SP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDUk-0007yU-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:14 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRDUj-0004Pk-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:14 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 18:12:07 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:12:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVMFaShCzzR6pt/Qri96gQDR/eLdQAB9gSQ In-Reply-To: <001801c54c17$2aec3890$8d01a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.141 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) OK John. I'll set it up for 136.082 if the storms have abated your side. Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 28 April 2005 18:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Dave, > Is there a lower slot? I don't want to annoy all those nocturnal CW > operators... Well, we certainly wouldn't want to annoy all of those guys, would we? A quick search doesn't turn up anything ideal, but 136.082 isn't too bad in the east. Given the increasing noise levels, this is probably an east coast project, anyway. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:33:00 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDoq-0001VG-Oj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:33:00 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRDtc-0005Js-8k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:37:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRDtc-0005Jp-6Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:37:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDoq-0000oo-8o for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:33:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDoG-00083h-0H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:32:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDoF-00083Y-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:32:23 +0100 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRDoE-0004Up-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:32:23 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.68.54b1962c (14374) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <68.54b1962c.2fa28628@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:32:08 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.208 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dave,

don't worry, your signal is invisible ;-) Yes there is some magic to it - the voice out of nowhere. But let's not start that debate about spread-spectrum coexistence here...

Good luck - Markus

In einer eMail vom 28.04.2005 17:03:59 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt dave@picks.force9.co.uk:

Is there a lower slot? I don't want to annoy all those nocturnal CW
operators...
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:24 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDxw-0001Ds-8e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:24 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRE2A-000CpN-4L for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:46:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRE2A-000CpK-1g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:46:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRDxv-0003xq-BU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDxi-00088Z-J1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRDxi-00088Q-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:10 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRDxg-0004Y7-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:42:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 11610 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 18:42:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 18:42:05 -0000 Message-ID: <002201c54c23$94c8c880$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:53:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Freq for EU-->NA WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, > I'll set it up for 136.082 if the storms have abated your side. It should be a lot quieter tonight in the NE U.S. and eastern Canada. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:19:03 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREXP-0004Wm-N8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:19:03 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DREbe-000L7M-B4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:23:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DREbe-000L7J-8O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:23:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREXP-00015E-9r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:19:03 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DREX8-0008Eg-A3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:18:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DREX7-0008EX-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:18:45 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DREX5-0004j8-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:18:45 +0100 Received: from fwd18.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DREX5-0004W9-01; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:18:43 +0200 Received: from HW1 (V8mSCvZJgeT+6eaCIAw9v00LYKZMX3sR0Y1YCOfyJqtz4Ko7NbxPwM@[84.133.77.174]) by fwd18.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DREWu-0rV6y80; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:18:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:18:31 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18310631218.20050428211831@t-online.de> To: Dave Pick In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: V8mSCvZJgeT+6eaCIAw9v00LYKZMX3sR0Y1YCOfyJqtz4Ko7NbxPwM X-TOI-MSGID: 7c926e51-060c-4ffd-8f50-099d94b07301 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Wolf tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, very strong signal here in JO52ho. I have some captures on my website: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de > John and co. > I'll run it overnight on 137.422 then at 300W or so. > Let's hope conditions are still OK > Dave G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:32 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREhY-0006lT-DE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:32 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DREhX-0004dk-OY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DREhX-0004dh-Mi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:31 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREjs-0001P7-62 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DREhL-0008Jm-Ma for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DREhL-0008Jd-BW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:19 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DREhJ-0004sP-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 26987 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 19:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 19:29:16 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c54c2a$2c0e01a0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:40:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: LF: WOLF Grabber? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) The latest edition of the WOLF GUI (uploaded last night) has a scroll-up screen, meaning that the most recently decoded lines are always visible. This would allow an enterprising person to post screen grabs with a utility like SnagIt. I'm not sure how useful that would be, but feel free to experiment. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:28 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREjQ-0007pQ-Ge for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:28 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DREjP-00052O-1J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DREjO-00052L-Vh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DREjO-000571-R3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DREjJ-0008Ne-7x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DREjI-0008NV-TH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:20 +0100 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DREjH-0004uL-Kb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:20 +0100 Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DREjH-0005dc-01; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:31:19 +0200 Received: from (rPcRXeZToeUt31vGDboJzojzdpKyx6a3RTsW8J-X2Pz5jk45McbG6o@[217.251.191.194]) by fwd22.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1DREj6-0BK1rM0; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:31:08 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> <4270183B.5050203@usa.net> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:31:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1DREj6-0BK1rM0@fwd22.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: rPcRXeZToeUt31vGDboJzojzdpKyx6a3RTsW8J-X2Pz5jk45McbG6o X-TOI-MSGID: 877ae059-04b9-472a-8f49-ca4572e7835f X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.81 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de Subject: Re: LF: Re: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Thanks Jay, thanks Alberto, thanks Markus. Any comments conc the stability of the QRG? During transmission the sound card is without any control (usually via DCF77-RX clocked. the RX is "zugestopft" - in english: to overload or to stop up? - by the LF sign). All other oscillators of the transmitter system are controlled by 15625Hz ZDF TVline QRG. tonite the ERP will be increased up to abt 300mW. QRG agn 135,9222..kHz; mode Jason slow. regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRHJx-0002wV-DX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRHJv-00059W-Uj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:17:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRHJv-00059T-T2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:17:19 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRHJv-0001NE-NF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:17:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRHJL-0000B5-OB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:16:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRHJL-0000Ar-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:16:43 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRHJJ-0005fS-Ri for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:16:43 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 22:16:36 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:16:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVMP+/7G9fq6622QSG+lGl53X/BNA== X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: Wolf test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) G3YXM is running a 300W Wolf signal (about 200mW ERP) on 136.082 tonight. Hopefully it'll stay on the air until about 0600 utc. Reports welcome! Dave G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:52 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRJmO-00075v-0r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:52 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRJmM-0007VB-IM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRJmM-0007V7-Eu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:50 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRJmM-0001vu-9Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:50 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRJlx-0000ll-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRJlx-0000lc-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:25 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRJlu-0006IJ-JN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:54:25 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi72.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.80]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DBA9BAC5B for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c54c56$2b8ebb80$5011f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <809825955.20050304180047@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:55:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 208.181.178.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of gulfislands.com Subject: LF: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) It looks like a good grayline for the next few days between here and the UK. For at least the next two nights I will be QRSS60 on 137.7775 with the "SL" beacon from 0300Z to 0500Z. Steve / VE7SL / CN88 / Mayne Island, B.C. Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [2200m Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:19 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRR8d-0000HN-Ak for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:19 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRRCw-000372-Pg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:50:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRRCw-00036z-N1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:50:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRR8c-0005zu-Tu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRR7v-0001n5-JH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:45:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRR7v-0001mw-83 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:45:35 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRR7r-0007rw-Qe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:45:35 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.135.12.237 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 08:45:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c54c97$c71f0a00$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <809825955.20050304180047@t-online.de> <000d01c54c56$2b8ebb80$5011f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Steve most of us on this side had gone to bed when you posted, but will listen for you tonight 29/30th. Conditions look good, and at the moment likely to remain so. Best timings are an hour before your sunset to an hour after our sunrise. This takes account of the illumination at 100km altitide. Best of Luck Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: 29 April 2005 01:55 Subject: LF: VE7 / Europe > It looks like a good grayline for the next few days between here and the UK. > For at least the next two nights I will be QRSS60 on 137.7775 with the "SL" > beacon from 0300Z to 0500Z. > > Steve / VE7SL / CN88 / Mayne Island, B.C. > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] > [2200m Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:41 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRRlg-0004nK-TZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:40 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRRq0-000Cah-Hl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:31:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRRq0-000Cae-Fi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:31:08 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRRo4-0003dt-E6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:29:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRRlT-0001v3-KN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRRlT-0001uu-8P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:27 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net ([165.212.64.33]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRRlR-00081T-LB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:27 +0100 Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3E3E0 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:26:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.129] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:26:15 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN dibene@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID138JDCJAP1733X03 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.46.163.190] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 673JDCJAN0457M29; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:26:13 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.46.163.190 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <4271FDBB.6000408@usa.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:26:19 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01c54b10$7199ec40$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <1DQqCT-2EK9K40@fwd31.sul.t-online.de> <4270183B.5050203@usa.net> <1DREj6-0BK1rM0@fwd22.sul.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1DREj6-0BK1rM0@fwd22.sul.t-online.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID673JDCJAo0457X29 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 26/27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) jannsen wrote: >Thanks Jay, thanks Alberto, thanks Markus. > >Any comments conc the stability of the QRG? During transmission the sound card >is without any control (usually via DCF77-RX clocked. the RX is "zugestopft" - >in english: to overload or to stop up? - by the LF sign). All other oscillators >of the transmitter system are controlled by 15625Hz ZDF TVline QRG. > > Uwe, as far as I am concerned, I haven't noticed any frequency drift. Either the TCXO of my NRD525 and your Tx are both stable, or they both drift in sync... :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:10:05 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRSRh-0001VP-N1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:10:05 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRSRX-0002ks-PS for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:10:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRSRX-0002kp-LW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:09:55 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRSRX-0003Tb-EH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:09:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRSR9-00025e-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:09:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRSR9-00025V-L8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:09:31 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.89]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRSR8-0008Gp-8n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:09:31 +0100 Received: from JAYTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005042910091701400fk46ce>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:09:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c54ca3$6ad74440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:08:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.89 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net Subject: LF: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Further capture problems after 0330Z - nil to that point. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:19 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRSo9-0004Ig-GQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:17 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRSo3-00008N-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRSo3-00008K-JI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRSo3-0006kX-B0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRSni-0002Iv-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:32:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRSnh-0002Im-Mg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:32:49 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRSng-0008P8-Bv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:32:49 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 10:32:42 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:32:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <000701c54ca3$6ad74440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Thread-Index: AcVMo50o0ihT5il7TFKGN5zPYumK0QAAt6Gg X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.142 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Thanks Jay. The TX ran OK all the way through. I got a report from RA3YO at almost 2,500km so I must have been beaming East! Dave G3YXM. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove Sent: 29 April 2005 11:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA APR 28/29 Further capture problems after 0330Z - nil to that point. Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:05 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRTGz-0003uR-NP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:05 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRTLJ-0007q0-PG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:07:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRTLJ-0007pw-Ko for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:07:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRTGy-0000I5-Re for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRTGj-0002RW-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:02:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRTGi-0002RN-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:02:48 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRTGf-00006G-AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:02:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 3273 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 11:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 11:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c54ca2$95333060$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c54ca3$6ad74440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:02:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, I did a little better, and congratulations! Copy is shown below. There were a number of instances of the "0.020" frequency offset during the night, some in long strings, but this was the only instance of correct decoding. Question: Have you set the sampling rate for transmitting? I see that you were using 8020 Hz on the receive copy you sent me the other day. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES -------------------------------------------------------- 2005-03-29 01:52:03 >WOLF -r 8001.7083 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.009 a:-0.7 dp: 98.3 ci: 6 cj:168 JQF2ZJFV*J*5YGV ? t: 48 f:-0.101 a:-0.3 dp: 95.8 ci:11 cj:467 O2M3Q5/8/WGMBDJ ? t: 96 f:-0.074 a:-1.3 dp: 93.9 ci: 9 cj:100 AB756APG02HRHGO ? t: 192 f:-0.098 pm:178.2 jm:743 q:-14.8 -8.3 RB/224 3JEHT85Q ? t: 288 f: 0.078 pm:181.0 jm:818 q:-11.7 -8.2 *CQ91NQSC755GWJ ? t: 384 f:-0.098 pm:192.1 jm:743 q:-11.4 -7.8 PQWENXDX*LAPIIG ? t: 480 f:-0.098 pm:216.5 jm:743 q:-10.8 -7.9 YMIL44 KV X6JS ? t: 576 f:-0.098 pm:241.7 jm:743 q: -9.9 -7.9 X*DZFAK87YZFWA ? t: 672 f:-0.098 pm:248.2 jm:743 q: -9.2 -7.8 2FKTUTTYJ3J2Q.M ? t: 768 f:-0.098 pm:285.7 jm:743 q: -8.9 -8.2 70P56CZVRCLUUHK ? t: 864 f:-0.098 pm:295.6 jm:743 q: -8.0 -8.3 18HGZ5HXBL0WIXV ? t: 960 f:-0.098 pm:317.0 jm:743 q: -7.1 -7.4 /J*OQYU7T853MKL ? t:1056 f:-0.098 pm:320.5 jm:743 q: -6.9 -5.7 .75I3J3ET853MKL - t:1152 f:-0.098 pm:321.7 jm:743 q: -6.2 -5.8 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1248 f:-0.098 pm:352.3 jm:743 q: -6.1 -5.3 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1344 f:-0.098 pm:354.5 jm:743 q: -5.7 -5.7 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1440 f:-0.098 pm:358.2 jm:743 q: -5.3 -5.9 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1536 f:-0.098 pm:362.9 jm:743 q: -4.9 -8.3 EL4KEJEUG*S2F3Y ? t:1632 f: 0.020 pm:478.0 jm:139 q: -1.9 -7.6 EA6I ZVPFKILJH2 ? t:1728 f: 0.020 pm:501.7 jm:139 q: -1.6 -8.5 C3G???R9PA.J4W1 ? t:1824 f: 0.020 pm:515.3 jm:139 q: -1.3 -8.0 DUJ/VWQ758T9K63 ? t:1920 f: 0.020 pm:534.3 jm:139 q: -1.0 -7.1 EA6I ZVPFKJOXG5 ? t:2016 f: 0.020 pm:541.8 jm:139 q: -0.7-10.2 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2112 f: 0.020 pm:556.3 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.5 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2208 f: 0.020 pm:573.4 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.0 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2304 f: 0.020 pm:600.2 jm:139 q: -0.1 -6.0 J0*8B O2AX3D.SI - t:2400 f: 0.020 pm:610.1 jm:139 q: -0.0 -8.0 J0*8DTV/BS8A0 C ? t:2496 f: 0.020 pm:618.3 jm:139 q: 0.1 -8.7 K3YI ZVPFJ/9Y.X ? t:2592 f: 0.020 pm:655.5 jm:140 q: -0.0 -5.6 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2688 f: 0.020 pm:671.8 jm:140 q: 0.1 -5.7 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2784 f: 0.020 pm:708.6 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.5 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2880 f: 0.020 pm:729.5 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2976 f: 0.020 pm:753.6 jm:140 q: 0.2 -5.4 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:3072 f: 0.020 pm:766.3 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:3168 f: 0.020 pm:768.9 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.3 G3YXM 300W WOLF - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:38:21 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRTp7-0004j6-45 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:38:21 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRTtR-000GP6-EM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:42:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRTtR-000GP3-BP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:42:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRTp5-0005rn-KT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:38:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRTnT-0002an-FF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:36:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRTnS-0002ae-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:36:38 +0100 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRTnR-0000Fi-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:36:38 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.bd.56d049f0 (14374) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:36:18 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.137.4 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000001030006050106050408" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000001030006050106050408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Dave, Warren and LF Group,

fb reception of the YXM Wolf beacon from beginning to end. The variations during the night can be seen by comparing the integrated matched-power (pm) and SNR (q in dB) in the last line of each 53-minute run. Around sunrise, the signal became invisible on the grabber, and q dropped by about 10 dB. At 06:15, pm stopped increasing so I guess that was when you switched off.

And a very nice signal from WD2XGJ from 2:00 to 3:50 (see capture at bottom). No signs of VO1NA, neither VE7SL (yet).

Best wishes
Markus,
DF6NM in JN59NK

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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:14:45 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 13:14:38 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:14:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <001901c54ca2$95333060$0500a8c0@charter.net> Thread-Index: AcVMqwSW5pX9m9aBTVuwkLLgac6kCQAENXzg X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Thanks John. I've received you and you've received me.. We can claim a QSO! ;-) (sorry Mal) The transmit Wolf comes from a different PC and I set that up by generating 1000Hz tone which I measured accurately, first with a frequency meter and then by listening to the 50th harmonic! (Diode across the audio) This one needed less correction, 8004 I think.. I then calibrated the receive PC by feeding the 1kHz straight in. Thanks also to Marcus for explaining the numbers a bit more. I guess the f:0.020 means my TX calibration agrees with John's receiver pretty well? The TX exciter is a Racal MA1723 with an ovened oscillator so it should be pretty good. One thing I find a bit awkward about Wolf on an overnight run is finding out when the periods of good reception were. I suppose you can count up lines from when you started but is there another way? 73 Dave G3YXM. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 29 April 2005 11:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29 Dave, I did a little better, and congratulations! Copy is shown below. There were a number of instances of the "0.020" frequency offset during the night, some in long strings, but this was the only instance of correct decoding. Question: Have you set the sampling rate for transmitting? I see that you were using 8020 Hz on the receive copy you sent me the other day. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES -------------------------------------------------------- 2005-03-29 01:52:03 >WOLF -r 8001.7083 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.009 a:-0.7 dp: 98.3 ci: 6 cj:168 JQF2ZJFV*J*5YGV ? t: 48 f:-0.101 a:-0.3 dp: 95.8 ci:11 cj:467 O2M3Q5/8/WGMBDJ ? t: 96 f:-0.074 a:-1.3 dp: 93.9 ci: 9 cj:100 AB756APG02HRHGO ? t: 192 f:-0.098 pm:178.2 jm:743 q:-14.8 -8.3 RB/224 3JEHT85Q ? t: 288 f: 0.078 pm:181.0 jm:818 q:-11.7 -8.2 *CQ91NQSC755GWJ ? t: 384 f:-0.098 pm:192.1 jm:743 q:-11.4 -7.8 PQWENXDX*LAPIIG ? t: 480 f:-0.098 pm:216.5 jm:743 q:-10.8 -7.9 YMIL44 KV X6JS ? t: 576 f:-0.098 pm:241.7 jm:743 q: -9.9 -7.9 X*DZFAK87YZFWA ? t: 672 f:-0.098 pm:248.2 jm:743 q: -9.2 -7.8 2FKTUTTYJ3J2Q.M ? t: 768 f:-0.098 pm:285.7 jm:743 q: -8.9 -8.2 70P56CZVRCLUUHK ? t: 864 f:-0.098 pm:295.6 jm:743 q: -8.0 -8.3 18HGZ5HXBL0WIXV ? t: 960 f:-0.098 pm:317.0 jm:743 q: -7.1 -7.4 /J*OQYU7T853MKL ? t:1056 f:-0.098 pm:320.5 jm:743 q: -6.9 -5.7 .75I3J3ET853MKL - t:1152 f:-0.098 pm:321.7 jm:743 q: -6.2 -5.8 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1248 f:-0.098 pm:352.3 jm:743 q: -6.1 -5.3 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1344 f:-0.098 pm:354.5 jm:743 q: -5.7 -5.7 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1440 f:-0.098 pm:358.2 jm:743 q: -5.3 -5.9 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1536 f:-0.098 pm:362.9 jm:743 q: -4.9 -8.3 EL4KEJEUG*S2F3Y ? t:1632 f: 0.020 pm:478.0 jm:139 q: -1.9 -7.6 EA6I ZVPFKILJH2 ? t:1728 f: 0.020 pm:501.7 jm:139 q: -1.6 -8.5 C3G???R9PA.J4W1 ? t:1824 f: 0.020 pm:515.3 jm:139 q: -1.3 -8.0 DUJ/VWQ758T9K63 ? t:1920 f: 0.020 pm:534.3 jm:139 q: -1.0 -7.1 EA6I ZVPFKJOXG5 ? t:2016 f: 0.020 pm:541.8 jm:139 q: -0.7-10.2 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2112 f: 0.020 pm:556.3 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.5 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2208 f: 0.020 pm:573.4 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.0 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? t:2304 f: 0.020 pm:600.2 jm:139 q: -0.1 -6.0 J0*8B O2AX3D.SI - t:2400 f: 0.020 pm:610.1 jm:139 q: -0.0 -8.0 J0*8DTV/BS8A0 C ? t:2496 f: 0.020 pm:618.3 jm:139 q: 0.1 -8.7 K3YI ZVPFJ/9Y.X ? t:2592 f: 0.020 pm:655.5 jm:140 q: -0.0 -5.6 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2688 f: 0.020 pm:671.8 jm:140 q: 0.1 -5.7 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2784 f: 0.020 pm:708.6 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.5 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2880 f: 0.020 pm:729.5 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2976 f: 0.020 pm:753.6 jm:140 q: 0.2 -5.4 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:3072 f: 0.020 pm:766.3 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:3168 f: 0.020 pm:768.9 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.3 G3YXM 300W WOLF - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:04 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRVzK-0001Yi-VB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:03 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRW4E-000GE2-65 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:02:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRW4E-000GDz-3N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:02:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRVzK-0002vj-7i for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:02 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRVyv-0003IC-2c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:56:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRVyu-0003I3-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:56:36 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRVys-0000uh-Si for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:56:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 15720 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 13:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 13:56:31 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c54cc4$defbebc0$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:08:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: unsubsribe from this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > in wich mode can i unsbscribe me from this list ? > 73 matteo Anyone is free to join the reflector by sending an e-mail to Majordomo@blacksheep.org with the "subject" field blank and the following message in the message field: subscribe rsgb_lf_group To unsubscribe from the reflector a similar e-mail is sent but with the slightly different message: unsubscribe rsgb_lf_group From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:18:09 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRWJl-0004w4-7A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:18:09 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRWO6-000PPR-Cp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:22:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRWO6-000PPO-AG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:22:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRWJk-0006bn-DF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:18:08 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRWJN-0003SS-Aa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:17:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRWJM-0003SJ-VA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:17:44 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRWJL-00012d-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:17:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 28065 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 14:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 14:17:41 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c54cc7$d3bd5250$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:29:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave, Your setup sounds fine, and the 0.020 Hz reading is close enough for any practical purpose. And you won't draw me into an argument about QSO's over multiple days! I should really have copied your signal in the following segment. The numbers all looked good, but no results. Back in the "good old days", I would have a .wav file, and would manipulate a bunch of parameters to coax out some copy. Not a very valuable technique for QSO's! I think we are better off just taking what comes out of the program as it's being run. The "f: 0.020" entries were frequent enough to convince me that it was seeing the signal regularly up to 0300 or so. Little useful info appeared after that. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:30 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRWUk-0003rT-Ih for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:30 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRWZ6-0001fz-1A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:34:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRWZ5-0001fw-V5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:33:59 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRWX9-0008Dc-Fo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRWUX-0003Y9-L4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRWUX-0003Y0-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:17 +0100 Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRWUU-000178-WA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:17 +0100 Received: from fwd21.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DRWUU-0001TD-00; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:29:14 +0200 Received: from HW1 (ESAZd+Zv8egxjcM+yI1YIYteQr78TlLla1zYzLT4-0PkcgVu6Bi+8a@[84.133.95.150]) by fwd21.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DRWUO-0DEozI0; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:29:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:29:06 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <908112283.20050429162906@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000701c54ca3$6ad74440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> References: <000701c54ca3$6ad74440$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: ESAZd+Zv8egxjcM+yI1YIYteQr78TlLla1zYzLT4-0PkcgVu6Bi+8a X-TOI-MSGID: 5ad593f3-1d76-4220-bf44-07294112984a X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Very strong signal 0000z-0330z from VO1NA last night. The 5wpm "blur" around 137.777 kHz was strong, too. Good signal from WD2XGJ 0145-0335z. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:44 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXES-0006aA-Le for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:44 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRXJM-000683-Gx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:21:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRXJM-000680-DB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:21:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXEP-0007Q9-TW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXE8-0003hr-Fg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXE7-0003hi-QM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:23 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRXE5-0001JK-SX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:23 +0100 Received: from AIRPORTTERMINAL (c-67-177-102-19.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[67.177.102.19]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005042915160001400kr5tme>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:16:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c54cce$d9b1a880$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:19:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.148.227.85 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dave

Are you planning on transmitting wolf again tonight?

Jay

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Pick

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:14 AM

Subject: LF: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29

Thanks John.

I've received you and you've received me.. We can claim a QSO! ;-) (sorry
Mal)

The transmit Wolf comes from a different PC and I set that up by generating
1000Hz tone which I measured accurately, first with a frequency meter and
then by listening to the 50th harmonic! (Diode across the audio)
This one needed less correction, 8004 I think..
I then calibrated the receive PC by feeding the 1kHz straight in.

Thanks also to Marcus for explaining the numbers a bit more. I guess the
f:0.020 means my TX calibration agrees with John's receiver pretty well?
The TX exciter is a Racal MA1723 with an ovened oscillator so it should be
pretty good.

One thing I find a bit awkward about Wolf on an overnight run is finding out
when the periods of good reception were. I suppose you can count up lines
from when you started but is there another way?

73
Dave G3YXM.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews
Sent: 29 April 2005 11:03
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29

Dave,

I did a little better, and congratulations! Copy is shown below. There were
a number of instances of the "0.020" frequency offset during the night,
some in long strings, but this was the only instance of correct decoding.

Question: Have you set the sampling rate for transmitting? I see that you
were using 8020 Hz on the receive copy you sent me the other day.

John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
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2005-03-29 01:52:03 >WOLF -r 8001.7083 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -w 0.0000
t: 24 f:-0.009 a:-0.7 dp: 98.3 ci: 6 cj:168 JQF2ZJFV*J*5YGV ?
t: 48 f:-0.101 a:-0.3 dp: 95.8 ci:11 cj:467 O2M3Q5/8/WGMBDJ ?
t: 96 f:-0.074 a:-1.3 dp: 93.9 ci: 9 cj:100 AB756APG02HRHGO ?
t: 192 f:-0.098 pm:178.2 jm:743 q:-14.8 -8.3 RB/224 3JEHT85Q ?
t: 288 f: 0.078 pm:181.0 jm:818 q:-11.7 -8.2 *CQ91NQSC755GWJ ?
t: 384 f:-0.098 pm:192.1 jm:743 q:-11.4 -7.8 PQWENXDX*LAPIIG ?
t: 480 f:-0.098 pm:216.5 jm:743 q:-10.8 -7.9 YMIL44 KV X6JS ?
t: 576 f:-0.098 pm:241.7 jm:743 q: -9.9 -7.9 X*DZFAK87YZFWA ?
t: 672 f:-0.098 pm:248.2 jm:743 q: -9.2 -7.8 2FKTUTTYJ3J2Q.M ?
t: 768 f:-0.098 pm:285.7 jm:743 q: -8.9 -8.2 70P56CZVRCLUUHK ?
t: 864 f:-0.098 pm:295.6 jm:743 q: -8.0 -8.3 18HGZ5HXBL0WIXV ?
t: 960 f:-0.098 pm:317.0 jm:743 q: -7.1 -7.4 /J*OQYU7T853MKL ?
t:1056 f:-0.098 pm:320.5 jm:743 q: -6.9 -5.7 .75I3J3ET853MKL -
t:1152 f:-0.098 pm:321.7 jm:743 q: -6.2 -5.8 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 -
t:1248 f:-0.098 pm:352.3 jm:743 q: -6.1 -5.3 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 -
t:1344 f:-0.098 pm:354.5 jm:743 q: -5.7 -5.7 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1440
f:-0.098 pm:358.2 jm:743 q: -5.3 -5.9 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 -
t:1536 f:-0.098 pm:362.9 jm:743 q: -4.9 -8.3 EL4KEJEUG*S2F3Y ?
t:1632 f: 0.020 pm:478.0 jm:139 q: -1.9 -7.6 EA6I ZVPFKILJH2 ?
t:1728 f: 0.020 pm:501.7 jm:139 q: -1.6 -8.5 C3G???R9PA.J4W1 ?
t:1824 f: 0.020 pm:515.3 jm:139 q: -1.3 -8.0 DUJ/VWQ758T9K63 ?
t:1920 f: 0.020 pm:534.3 jm:139 q: -1.0 -7.1 EA6I ZVPFKJOXG5 ?
t:2016 f: 0.020 pm:541.8 jm:139 q: -0.7-10.2 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ?
t:2112 f: 0.020 pm:556.3 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.5 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ?
t:2208 f: 0.020 pm:573.4 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.0 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ?
t:2304 f: 0.020 pm:600.2 jm:139 q: -0.1 -6.0 J0*8B O2AX3D.SI - t:2400 f:
0.020 pm:610.1 jm:139 q: -0.0 -8.0 J0*8DTV/BS8A0 C ?
t:2496 f: 0.020 pm:618.3 jm:139 q: 0.1 -8.7 K3YI ZVPFJ/9Y.X ?
t:2592 f: 0.020 pm:655.5 jm:140 q: -0.0 -5.6 G3YXM 300W WOLF -
t:2688 f: 0.020 pm:671.8 jm:140 q: 0.1 -5.7 G3YXM 300W WOLF -
t:2784 f: 0.020 pm:708.6 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.5 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2880 f:
0.020 pm:729.5 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF -
t:2976 f: 0.020 pm:753.6 jm:140 q: 0.2 -5.4 G3YXM 300W WOLF -
t:3072 f: 0.020 pm:766.3 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF -
t:3168 f: 0.020 pm:768.9 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.3 G3YXM 300W WOLF -

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:36:08 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXXD-0002Kf-Qc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:36:07 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRXXC-0006DK-T8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:36:07 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRXXC-0006DH-R2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:36:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXXC-0004Ux-Lk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:36:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXWp-0003oh-6N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXWo-0003oY-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:42 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRXWn-0001Of-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 32456 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 15:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 15:35:36 -0000 Message-ID: <004401c54cd2$b6547a80$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002d01c54cce$d9b1a880$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:47:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) All, >Are you planning on transmitting wolf again tonight? I was wondering whether we could tolerate having WD2XES on 137.441 and Dave down on 136.082 and still handle everyone's various listening projects. Thoughts? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:40 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXhQ-00061R-D6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:40 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRXhP-0002EZ-Ij for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRXhP-0002EW-GJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:39 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRXhP-0005Hu-9q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXhA-0003uG-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRXh9-0003u7-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:23 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155] ident=exim) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRXh8-0001S5-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:23 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DRXgv-0007c0-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:46:09 +0200 Received: from td9091b81.pool.terralink.de ([217.9.27.129] helo=[192.168.0.200]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DRXgu-0003gp-Lx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: <427256DA.5010507@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:46:34 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.155 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Dave, > One thing I find a bit awkward about Wolf on an overnight run > is finding out when the periods of good reception were. > I suppose you can count up lines from when you started > but is there another way? If it sounds more convenient, I can replace the "t:" indicator with the current time of day. A the moment, "t:"-value has to be added to the time when the WOLF decoder was started (which is shown in the decoder window before WOLF command line). For example, for "t:2592" add 2592 seconds (= 42.2 minutes) to 01:52:03 in John's capture. The result is something like 02:35 as timestamp for the first successful decode. However this doesn't mean John would have had immediate copy at 02:35 if he had turned the decoder on at 02:30, because WOLF has integrated the signal over a longer timer. For that reason (or, from a technical point of view) it's important to know that first successful decode was 2592 seconds after the decoder started. Besides this: There is a minor bug in the date-display, it starts counting the months at zero. So the date "2005-03-29" (in ISO-8601 format) should read "2005-04-29". Will be fixed in the next release. We may also start thinking about a WOLF 2-way QSO procedure: which station should transmit in which time slot, and how long the time slots should be (my suggestion: 15 or 30 minutes). In the next release, there will be a "QSO mode" which automatically toggles between RX and TX, synchronized with the PC's clock. Best regards, and good luck. Hope to work you *in any mode* later this weekend ! Wolf DL4YHF Dave Pick schrieb: >Thanks John. > >I've received you and you've received me.. We can claim a QSO! ;-) (sorry >Mal) > >The transmit Wolf comes from a different PC and I set that up by generating >1000Hz tone which I measured accurately, first with a frequency meter and >then by listening to the 50th harmonic! (Diode across the audio) >This one needed less correction, 8004 I think.. >I then calibrated the receive PC by feeding the 1kHz straight in. > >Thanks also to Marcus for explaining the numbers a bit more. I guess the >f:0.020 means my TX calibration agrees with John's receiver pretty well? >The TX exciter is a Racal MA1723 with an ovened oscillator so it should be >pretty good. > >One thing I find a bit awkward about Wolf on an overnight run is finding out >when the periods of good reception were. I suppose you can count up lines >from when you started but is there another way? > >73 >Dave G3YXM. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews >Sent: 29 April 2005 11:03 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29 > >Dave, > >I did a little better, and congratulations! Copy is shown below. There were >a number of instances of the "0.020" frequency offset during the night, >some in long strings, but this was the only instance of correct decoding. > >Question: Have you set the sampling rate for transmitting? I see that you >were using 8020 Hz on the receive copy you sent me the other day. > >John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES >-------------------------------------------------------- >2005-03-29 01:52:03 >WOLF -r 8001.7083 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -w 0.0000 >t: 24 f:-0.009 a:-0.7 dp: 98.3 ci: 6 cj:168 JQF2ZJFV*J*5YGV ? >t: 48 f:-0.101 a:-0.3 dp: 95.8 ci:11 cj:467 O2M3Q5/8/WGMBDJ ? >t: 96 f:-0.074 a:-1.3 dp: 93.9 ci: 9 cj:100 AB756APG02HRHGO ? >t: 192 f:-0.098 pm:178.2 jm:743 q:-14.8 -8.3 RB/224 3JEHT85Q ? >t: 288 f: 0.078 pm:181.0 jm:818 q:-11.7 -8.2 *CQ91NQSC755GWJ ? >t: 384 f:-0.098 pm:192.1 jm:743 q:-11.4 -7.8 PQWENXDX*LAPIIG ? >t: 480 f:-0.098 pm:216.5 jm:743 q:-10.8 -7.9 YMIL44 KV X6JS ? >t: 576 f:-0.098 pm:241.7 jm:743 q: -9.9 -7.9 X*DZFAK87YZFWA ? >t: 672 f:-0.098 pm:248.2 jm:743 q: -9.2 -7.8 2FKTUTTYJ3J2Q.M ? >t: 768 f:-0.098 pm:285.7 jm:743 q: -8.9 -8.2 70P56CZVRCLUUHK ? >t: 864 f:-0.098 pm:295.6 jm:743 q: -8.0 -8.3 18HGZ5HXBL0WIXV ? >t: 960 f:-0.098 pm:317.0 jm:743 q: -7.1 -7.4 /J*OQYU7T853MKL ? >t:1056 f:-0.098 pm:320.5 jm:743 q: -6.9 -5.7 .75I3J3ET853MKL - >t:1152 f:-0.098 pm:321.7 jm:743 q: -6.2 -5.8 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - >t:1248 f:-0.098 pm:352.3 jm:743 q: -6.1 -5.3 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - >t:1344 f:-0.098 pm:354.5 jm:743 q: -5.7 -5.7 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1440 >f:-0.098 pm:358.2 jm:743 q: -5.3 -5.9 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - >t:1536 f:-0.098 pm:362.9 jm:743 q: -4.9 -8.3 EL4KEJEUG*S2F3Y ? >t:1632 f: 0.020 pm:478.0 jm:139 q: -1.9 -7.6 EA6I ZVPFKILJH2 ? >t:1728 f: 0.020 pm:501.7 jm:139 q: -1.6 -8.5 C3G???R9PA.J4W1 ? >t:1824 f: 0.020 pm:515.3 jm:139 q: -1.3 -8.0 DUJ/VWQ758T9K63 ? >t:1920 f: 0.020 pm:534.3 jm:139 q: -1.0 -7.1 EA6I ZVPFKJOXG5 ? >t:2016 f: 0.020 pm:541.8 jm:139 q: -0.7-10.2 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? >t:2112 f: 0.020 pm:556.3 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.5 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? >t:2208 f: 0.020 pm:573.4 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.0 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? >t:2304 f: 0.020 pm:600.2 jm:139 q: -0.1 -6.0 J0*8B O2AX3D.SI - t:2400 f: >0.020 pm:610.1 jm:139 q: -0.0 -8.0 J0*8DTV/BS8A0 C ? >t:2496 f: 0.020 pm:618.3 jm:139 q: 0.1 -8.7 K3YI ZVPFJ/9Y.X ? >t:2592 f: 0.020 pm:655.5 jm:140 q: -0.0 -5.6 G3YXM 300W WOLF - >t:2688 f: 0.020 pm:671.8 jm:140 q: 0.1 -5.7 G3YXM 300W WOLF - >t:2784 f: 0.020 pm:708.6 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.5 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2880 f: >0.020 pm:729.5 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - >t:2976 f: 0.020 pm:753.6 jm:140 q: 0.2 -5.4 G3YXM 300W WOLF - >t:3072 f: 0.020 pm:766.3 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - >t:3168 f: 0.020 pm:768.9 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.3 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:52:34 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRYjC-0000XT-MO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:52:34 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRYnY-0001WP-Vw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:57:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRYnY-0001WA-PA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:57:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRYjC-0002HF-1q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:52:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRYh5-00045h-Fr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:50:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRYh5-00045Y-5J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:50:23 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRYh1-0001j7-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:50:23 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi85.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.93]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 128ECB8624 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <007d01c54cdb$bfc2f160$5d11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <809825955.20050304180047@t-online.de> <000d01c54c56$2b8ebb80$5011f4cc@p1i5f0> <000401c54c97$c71f0a00$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:51:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 208.181.178.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of gulfislands.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: Re: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > Hi Steve most of us on this side had gone to bed when you posted, ...and I thought you guys never slept. I realized that after I posted but I will be on for the next two nights. I will be running QRSS90. What is your present sunrise time Alan? Steve / VE7SL Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [2200m Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:38 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRZ1d-00038L-Vl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:38 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRZ1U-0007E5-8g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRZ1T-0007DU-JB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRZ1T-0006Lq-1n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:27 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRZ1G-0004Bn-Ho for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRZ1G-0004Be-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:14 +0100 Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.142]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRZ1E-0001nP-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:14 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 17:11:07 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <002d01c54cce$d9b1a880$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> Thread-Index: AcVMznPRwl5oj8vKRHOcMs8MXkoAggAD8Zvg X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.142 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I thought I'd have a listen for Steve tonight.

Dave G3YXM

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Rusgrove
Sent: 29 April 2005 16:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29

Dave

Are you planning on transmitting wolf again tonight?

Jay

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:01 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRZ3x-0007x6-4l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:01 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRZ8r-0001DH-Rk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:19:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRZ8r-0001DE-Oe for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:19:05 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRZ3w-0004S9-Mh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:00 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRZ3q-0004Gu-PD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:13:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRZ3q-0004Gl-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:13:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRZ3o-0001oh-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:13:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 28693 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 17:13:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 17:13:49 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c54ce0$6e08c160$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <427256DA.5010507@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:25:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Wolf, I would vote for a selection of 15 or 30 minutes for a QSO format. When Dex and I did the original WOLF QSO, we worked on a 30 minute basis. Since the GUI wasn't available, that was 20 minutes of recording, and 10 minutes for playback, analysis and coding of the next message. At 15 or 30 minutes with the GUI, short and long haul QSO's could be accommodated. It would be MUCH easier now! Lest anyone despair about the long times involved, it would take 15 minutes to send the string "PARIS PARIS PAR" at QRSS7. Considering that our messages include numbers, the throughput would be better. Dave's "G3YXM 300W WOLF" from last night would have to have been sent faster than QRSS5. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:23:22 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRb58-0007Je-QX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:23:22 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRbA4-000NH3-FW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:28:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRbA4-000NH0-DH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:28:28 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRb7Y-0000ga-Sk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:25:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRb47-0004Yo-Uw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRb47-0004Yf-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:19 +0100 Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.79]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRb46-0002LR-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 6884 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 19:22:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 19:22:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c54cf2$5e275600$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org References: <427256DA.5010507@freenet.de> <004b01c54ce0$6e08c160$8d01a8c0@JKA> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:33:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.79 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: XES WOLF 29/30 Apr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES will be sending WOLF on 137.441 kHz tonight starting by 2300 UTC, with 200 watts output. Local sunset is at 2345. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:01:02 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRcbe-0000Ka-Fa for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:01:02 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRcbd-0001JR-3f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:01:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRcbd-0001JO-1H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:01:01 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRce3-0004gg-SJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:03:31 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRcat-0004p4-0v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:00:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRcas-0004ov-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRcaq-0002dk-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:00:14 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.1ee.3ac33c92 (3842) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.3ac33c92.2fa3fa50@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:00:00 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 205.188.157.36 as permitted sender Subject: LF: DI2AG frequencies Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Walter and LF,

the frequency pair of the DI2AG DFCW transmission now is 440040.03 / 440042.20 Hz (dot/dash). Walter has not received positive overseas reports so far - anyone in VE / W who wants to give it a go while condx are good?

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:37:56 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRe7Q-0001Ix-1y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:37:56 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRe6n-0001IX-1R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:37:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRe6m-0001IU-Tp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:37:16 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRe6m-0002Tk-Oc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:37:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRe6L-00052j-Pv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:36:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRe6L-00052a-Be for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:36:49 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRe6H-0002sA-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:36:49 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.142.208 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 22:36:39 -0000 Message-ID: <004701c54d0b$e49b7720$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <809825955.20050304180047@t-online.de> <000d01c54c56$2b8ebb80$5011f4cc@p1i5f0> <000401c54c97$c71f0a00$6507a8c0@Main> <007d01c54cdb$bfc2f160$5d11f4cc@p1i5f0> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:20:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.204 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: 29 April 2005 17:51 Subject: LF: Re: Re: VE7 / Europe > > > Hi Steve most of us on this side had gone to bed when you posted, > > ...and I thought you guys never slept. I realized that after I posted but I > will be on for the next two nights. I will be running QRSS90. > > What is your present sunrise time Alan? Before I am awake Steve !! The ground shadow clears most of the UK by 0512z. I dont have a Gt Circle map on the PC but looking at Geoclock there is barely a darkness path now as the shadow is creeping down from over south Greenland. My guess is around the winter solstice for this path in the next year or so as it is quieter running down to the Solar min. I have never seen any trace of "Greyline" on any of my beacon runs. I will leave a 30 sec Argo slow on around your channel (that is best calibrated) tonight. Cheers de Alan > Steve / VE7SL > > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] > [2200m Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:40 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DReOa-0002t8-Qs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:40 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DReOa-0003d0-2Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DReOa-0003cx-0W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:40 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DReOZ-0002bI-SP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DReOM-00058S-EU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DReOL-00058J-Nx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:25 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.200]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DReOI-0002wL-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:25 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2005 22:55:16 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:55:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVMVg0QNbNFja5bTSi6kAeZvjXd4gAuB0TQ In-Reply-To: <000d01c54c56$2b8ebb80$5011f4cc@p1i5f0> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Steve and John The grabber is on at QRS60 on Steve's frequency and the second one is showing Wolf on 137.441, but that's right on the edge of the filter so I'm not sure how well it'll do.. I downloaded the latest Wolf GUI so let's hope it scrolls! http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ Good luck Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Steve McDonald Sent: 29 April 2005 01:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: VE7 / Europe It looks like a good grayline for the next few days between here and the UK. For at least the next two nights I will be QRSS60 on 137.7775 with the "SL" beacon from 0300Z to 0500Z. Steve / VE7SL / CN88 / Mayne Island, B.C. Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [2200m Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:10:16 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRfYm-0005mE-M4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:10:16 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRfdB-000NiV-GF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:14:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRfdB-000NiR-D8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:14:49 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRfYm-0005lh-3f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:10:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRfYL-0005LR-32 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:09:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRfYK-0005LI-O0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:09:48 +0100 Received: from joseph.ncoldns.com ([208.181.178.5] helo=generation.lgisp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRfYH-00034g-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:09:48 +0100 Received: from p1i5f0 (gi102.imagenisp.com [204.244.17.110]) by generation.lgisp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EBEEB6971 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01c54d18$ecd71680$6e11f4cc@p1i5f0> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:09:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 208.181.178.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of gulfislands.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Re: RE: VE7 / Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Tnx Dave and Allan. I'll be even better prepared for the winter runs with at least a killowatt. I'll be QRSS90 from 0200Z - 0530Z tonight and tomorrow night. 137.7775 73 / Steve / VE7SL > Steve and John > > The grabber is on at QRS60 on Steve's frequency and the second one is > showing Wolf on 137.441, but that's right on the edge of the filter so I'm > not sure how well it'll do.. > I downloaded the latest Wolf GUI so let's hope it scrolls! > http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ > > > Good luck > > Dave G3YXM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Steve McDonald > Sent: 29 April 2005 01:56 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: VE7 / Europe > > It looks like a good grayline for the next few days between here and the UK. > For at least the next two nights I will be QRSS60 on 137.7775 with the "SL" > beacon from 0300Z to 0500Z. > > Steve / VE7SL / CN88 / Mayne Island, B.C. > > Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > [L.F. Loops] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [2200m > Band] * NEW [CQ Crossband - 2200m To HF] [NDB DX] [Boatanchors] > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:57:04 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRluS-0006sY-Mv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:57:04 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRlzS-000ELm-Us for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:02:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRlzS-000ELj-Rv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:02:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRluS-0006s9-4I for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:57:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRlty-0006kM-9g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRltx-0006kD-My for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:33 +0100 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRltw-000476-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:33 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id l.1c6.27b6770e (17377) for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:56:21 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of aol.com designates 64.12.138.204 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: TA April 29/30 - not much here Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF group,

only slight traces from WD2XGJ and even slighter ones from VO1NA in Nuernberg tonight, no WOLF reception and no VE7.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:24 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRmgC-0005iH-QD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:24 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DRmgC-00087D-5y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.74] (helo=pih-mxcore08.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DRmgC-00087A-48 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRmgB-0000m9-Vc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRmfx-0006v4-RZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRmfx-0006uv-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:09 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRmfv-0004FN-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:09 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@217.42.137.69 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2005 07:46:01 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:46:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501c54cf2$5e275600$8d01a8c0@JKA> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.138 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com Subject: LF: XES WOLF 29/30 Apr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Amazing! Not sure when this was received, but it was probably around 0400 utc. It was going great, then my decoder reset itself for some reason. Well done everyone! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM t:1632 f:-0.195 pm: 216 jm:317 q: -3.4 -7.6 4JZNDQK9RUEW9PI ? t:1728 f:-0.195 pm: 230 jm:317 q: -3.0 -8.0 H/M85V 2M3A09*C ? t:1824 f:-0.195 pm: 263 jm:317 q: -2.4 -5.8 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:1920 f:-0.195 pm: 294 jm:317 q: -2.1 -4.9 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2016 f:-0.195 pm: 320 jm:317 q: -1.7 -4.2 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2112 f:-0.195 pm: 378 jm:317 q: -1.2 -3.5 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2208 f:-0.195 pm: 417 jm:317 q: -0.9 -2.8 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2304 f:-0.195 pm: 456 jm:317 q: -0.4 -2.3 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2400 f:-0.195 pm: 485 jm:317 q: -0.1 -2.0 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2496 f:-0.195 pm: 540 jm:317 q: 0.2 -1.6 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2592 f:-0.195 pm: 546 jm:317 q: 0.3 -1.7 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2688 f:-0.195 pm: 549 jm:317 q: 0.5 -1.6 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2784 f:-0.195 pm: 574 jm:317 q: 0.6 -1.3 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2880 f:-0.195 pm: 589 jm:317 q: 0.8 -1.3 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:2976 f:-0.195 pm: 593 jm:317 q: 1.0 -1.5 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:3072 f:-0.195 pm: 595 jm:317 q: 1.0 -1.8 CQ WOLF WD2XES - t:3168 f:-0.195 pm: 608 jm:317 q: 1.2 -1.6 CQ WOLF WD2XES - >WOLF -r 8100 -f 800 -t 2.0 -w 0.000 t: 24 f:-1.509 a:-0.3 dp: 93.0 ci:13 cj:298 ???VRS/8L2EA J9 ? t: 48 f: 1.870 a: 1.2 dp: 91.2 ci:12 cj:420 WE9U31.VVXVRDTE ? t: 96 f:-1.505 a:-0.5 dp: 87.7 ci: 9 cj:408 0VNP*/JWH6SDGKI - -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: 29 April 2005 20:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org Subject: LF: XES WOLF 29/30 Apr WD2XES will be sending WOLF on 137.441 kHz tonight starting by 2300 UTC, with 200 watts output. Local sunset is at 2345. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:29:05 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRoHZ-0002yG-Ql for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:29:05 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRoMb-0008zd-2R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:34:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRoMa-0008zZ-VE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:34:16 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRoHZ-0007ul-AP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:29:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRoH4-0007gt-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:28:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRoH3-0007gk-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:28:33 +0100 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.83]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRoH0-0004Vr-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:28:33 +0100 Received: from fwd25.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DRoGz-0007uh-01; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:28:29 +0200 Received: from HW1 (bKg+sUZlZet8oy5ye-Bg3YWu-DbBpE0ucm4vfbwnCbbYpcPBFCAFs2@[84.133.111.142]) by fwd25.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DRoGw-1UI6iG0; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:28:26 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:28:24 +0200 From: Hartmut Wolff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1027477627.20050430112824@t-online.de> To: "MarkusVester@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> References: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ID: bKg+sUZlZet8oy5ye-Bg3YWu-DbBpE0ucm4vfbwnCbbYpcPBFCAFs2 X-TOI-MSGID: d94d3547-52bc-4ff9-aa0e-76efb9e96135 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.83 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: TA April 29/30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Poorer conditions than previous nights. Copied VO1NA, WD2XGJ and WD2XES in WOLF mode on 137.441 kHz. Nothing else copied. Captures can be seen here: http://www.h-wolff.de/Latest%20LF.htm 73 Hartmut Locator:JO52ho www.h-wolff.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:33 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRpGy-0001JZ-R5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:32 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRpLR-000Ozp-CX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:37:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRpLR-000Ozk-9A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:37:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRpGy-0001Oa-16 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRpGV-0007sC-Rn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRpGV-0007s3-G4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:03 +0100 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRpGU-0004eX-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:32:03 +0100 Received: from fwd26.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DRpGT-00086Y-00; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:32:01 +0200 Received: from (G01exaZUgenymtyu-36pz70OAtZ5c7G1WiPiB7Vgp-DoBprQQcimcx@[217.251.191.237]) by fwd26.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1DRpGD-05bZom0; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:31:45 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> <1027477627.20050430112824@t-online.de> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:31:45 +0200 Message-ID: <1DRpGD-05bZom0@fwd26.sul.t-online.de> X-ID: G01exaZUgenymtyu-36pz70OAtZ5c7G1WiPiB7Vgp-DoBprQQcimcx X-TOI-MSGID: 201a0c89-4f09-4164-8efa-1fd1357d0d23 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.25.134.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t-online.de X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS=1.492 Subject: LF: VO1NA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090204050302090103020600" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090204050302090103020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, first time since long VO1NA signs vy strong in the northern part of Continental Europe. 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Jay, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRq7V-0000SK-Uc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:50 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRqBw-0007Mk-TZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:31:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRqBw-0007Mh-QY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:31:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRq7T-0001kD-EU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:47 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRq7B-00085A-7G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRq7A-000851-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:28 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRq79-0004rN-EA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:28 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@217.43.204.36 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2005 11:26:21 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:26:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVNd284v18K0gUnTrGq3wBYuqXmDg== X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Message-Id: Subject: LF: Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Nothing seen from Steve, some VO1NA but I was looking at QRS60 so it's unreadable. Good Wolf copy from John around dawn (0430) Dave G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:37 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRqF3-0003Bf-3H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:37 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRqK5-0001fr-2d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRqK4-0001fn-T2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:48 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRqF2-0007Cl-Bp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRqEg-0008Ad-Ve for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRqEg-0008AU-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:14 +0100 Received: from fh1023.dia.cp.net ([64.97.168.33] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRqEe-0004uC-PI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:34:14 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.5) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.043) id 42437A00007542BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:34:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c54ca1$244e8b20$05e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:51:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.97.168.33 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=0.302,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.026 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: TA APR 28/29 > Thanks John. > > I've received you and you've received me.. We can claim a QSO! ;-) (sorry > Mal) The only authenctic QSO's on LF are those conducted in real time CW and possibly some at QRS2 or 3. The majority of other claimed successes are GUESSWORK or IMAGINATION. Last year during the ZL tx tests I saw some bright traces on the designated frequency at the time of transmission but I would not claim a hit because there was no proof of part callsign but I gather recently someone in ZL is claiming a success under the same circumstances. ie saw a brightup on the freq used by a G3 stn. Sometimes there appears to be coherent bits of signal observed while monitoring LF but it is just a burst of a particular type of noise. My story to the world is treat with suspicion what anyone tells your about their achievements on LF. The trouble is some people would believe anything !! > > The transmit Wolf comes from a different PC and I set that up by generating > 1000Hz tone which I measured accurately, first with a frequency meter and > then by listening to the 50th harmonic! (Diode across the audio) > This one needed less correction, 8004 I think.. > I then calibrated the receive PC by feeding the 1kHz straight in. > > Thanks also to Marcus for explaining the numbers a bit more. I guess the > f:0.020 means my TX calibration agrees with John's receiver pretty well? > The TX exciter is a Racal MA1723 with an ovened oscillator so it should be > pretty good. > > One thing I find a bit awkward about Wolf on an overnight run is finding out > when the periods of good reception were. I suppose you can count up lines > from when you started but is there another way? > > 73 > Dave G3YXM. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews > Sent: 29 April 2005 11:03 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: TA APR 28/29 > > Dave, > > I did a little better, and congratulations! Copy is shown below. There were > a number of instances of the "0.020" frequency offset during the night, > some in long strings, but this was the only instance of correct decoding. > > Question: Have you set the sampling rate for transmitting? I see that you > were using 8020 Hz on the receive copy you sent me the other day. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > -------------------------------------------------------- > 2005-03-29 01:52:03 >WOLF -r 8001.7083 -f 800.09 -t 0.1 -w 0.0000 > t: 24 f:-0.009 a:-0.7 dp: 98.3 ci: 6 cj:168 JQF2ZJFV*J*5YGV ? > t: 48 f:-0.101 a:-0.3 dp: 95.8 ci:11 cj:467 O2M3Q5/8/WGMBDJ ? > t: 96 f:-0.074 a:-1.3 dp: 93.9 ci: 9 cj:100 AB756APG02HRHGO ? > t: 192 f:-0.098 pm:178.2 jm:743 q:-14.8 -8.3 RB/224 3JEHT85Q ? > t: 288 f: 0.078 pm:181.0 jm:818 q:-11.7 -8.2 *CQ91NQSC755GWJ ? > t: 384 f:-0.098 pm:192.1 jm:743 q:-11.4 -7.8 PQWENXDX*LAPIIG ? > t: 480 f:-0.098 pm:216.5 jm:743 q:-10.8 -7.9 YMIL44 KV X6JS ? > t: 576 f:-0.098 pm:241.7 jm:743 q: -9.9 -7.9 X*DZFAK87YZFWA ? > t: 672 f:-0.098 pm:248.2 jm:743 q: -9.2 -7.8 2FKTUTTYJ3J2Q.M ? > t: 768 f:-0.098 pm:285.7 jm:743 q: -8.9 -8.2 70P56CZVRCLUUHK ? > t: 864 f:-0.098 pm:295.6 jm:743 q: -8.0 -8.3 18HGZ5HXBL0WIXV ? > t: 960 f:-0.098 pm:317.0 jm:743 q: -7.1 -7.4 /J*OQYU7T853MKL ? > t:1056 f:-0.098 pm:320.5 jm:743 q: -6.9 -5.7 .75I3J3ET853MKL - > t:1152 f:-0.098 pm:321.7 jm:743 q: -6.2 -5.8 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - > t:1248 f:-0.098 pm:352.3 jm:743 q: -6.1 -5.3 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - > t:1344 f:-0.098 pm:354.5 jm:743 q: -5.7 -5.7 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - t:1440 > f:-0.098 pm:358.2 jm:743 q: -5.3 -5.9 EL4KELWR2E23HR4 - > t:1536 f:-0.098 pm:362.9 jm:743 q: -4.9 -8.3 EL4KEJEUG*S2F3Y ? > t:1632 f: 0.020 pm:478.0 jm:139 q: -1.9 -7.6 EA6I ZVPFKILJH2 ? > t:1728 f: 0.020 pm:501.7 jm:139 q: -1.6 -8.5 C3G???R9PA.J4W1 ? > t:1824 f: 0.020 pm:515.3 jm:139 q: -1.3 -8.0 DUJ/VWQ758T9K63 ? > t:1920 f: 0.020 pm:534.3 jm:139 q: -1.0 -7.1 EA6I ZVPFKJOXG5 ? > t:2016 f: 0.020 pm:541.8 jm:139 q: -0.7-10.2 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? > t:2112 f: 0.020 pm:556.3 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.5 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? > t:2208 f: 0.020 pm:573.4 jm:139 q: -0.3-10.0 G2BZXFO2AX3D.SI ? > t:2304 f: 0.020 pm:600.2 jm:139 q: -0.1 -6.0 J0*8B O2AX3D.SI - t:2400 f: > 0.020 pm:610.1 jm:139 q: -0.0 -8.0 J0*8DTV/BS8A0 C ? > t:2496 f: 0.020 pm:618.3 jm:139 q: 0.1 -8.7 K3YI ZVPFJ/9Y.X ? > t:2592 f: 0.020 pm:655.5 jm:140 q: -0.0 -5.6 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > t:2688 f: 0.020 pm:671.8 jm:140 q: 0.1 -5.7 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > t:2784 f: 0.020 pm:708.6 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.5 G3YXM 300W WOLF - t:2880 f: > 0.020 pm:729.5 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > t:2976 f: 0.020 pm:753.6 jm:140 q: 0.2 -5.4 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > t:3072 f: 0.020 pm:766.3 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.1 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > t:3168 f: 0.020 pm:768.9 jm:140 q: 0.3 -5.3 G3YXM 300W WOLF - > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:29 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRr69-0001Pa-EJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:29 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRrAc-000Gg9-Nc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:34:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRrAc-000Gg6-L3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:34:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRr68-0001PL-OF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRr5u-0008Kp-Jy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRr5u-0008Kg-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:14 +0100 Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.194]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRr5r-00053I-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:29:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 30478 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2005 12:29:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2005 12:29:07 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c54d77$d26357a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:29:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: XES WOLF 29/30 Apr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Thanks to Dave (WCB), Dave (YXM) and Hartmut for the across-the-pond WOLF reports last night. I saw the signal on the YXM grabber around 0230. Dave (WCB): The decoder reset after line 3168 (52.8 minutes) is done on purpose. In fact, the original command-line program stopped after line 1632 (27.2 minutes). Since WOLF builds up copy by summing up the results of previous lines, you reach a point where you must flush things out and start over. Also, you might want to download the current version of the WOLF GUI, as it adds a time stamp after the decoder resets. That would give you a good idea of when copy began or ended. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:12:17 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRrlZ-0002Rm-2t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:12:17 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRrqb-000GJn-S8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:17:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.76] (helo=pih-mxcore10.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRrqb-000GJk-Pc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:17:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRrlY-0001kl-KM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:12:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRrl5-0008Sq-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRrl4-0008Sh-KD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:46 +0100 Received: from gander.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.65]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRrl2-0005AH-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:46 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by gander.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3UDBbnU023725 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:41:37 -0230 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j3UDBaTW014013 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:41:36 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id j3UDBaFr013623; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:41:36 -0230 (NDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:41:36 -0230 (NDT) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1c6.27b6770e.2fa48615@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Report: -10 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.153.232.65 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of morgan.ucs.mun.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: TA 30 Apr Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Group, Many thanks to those monitoring 137.777 kHz and to Hartmut Wolff, DF6NM, DJ8WX, G3NYK and G3YXM for the reports. Will continue dot 30 on hour 5 WPM on half hour for the next week. 90 Watts 1.4 amps aerial current 100 metre wire about 10 metres high. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:56:13 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRvGG-000120-TJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:56:12 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRvLL-0002po-5C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:01:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRvLL-0002pl-2R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:01:27 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRvGG-0003W5-Bu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:56:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRvFk-0000Re-HB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:55:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRvFk-0000RV-2o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:55:40 +0100 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([194.97.50.132]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRvFi-0005md-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:55:40 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DRvFV-00084j-Ok for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:55:25 +0200 Received: from www10.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.203]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DRvFV-0003O1-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:55:25 +0200 Received: from www-data by www10.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DRvFU-0007Dt-P1 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:55:24 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 217.9.27.57 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:55:24 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.132 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.056,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.843,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185 Subject: Re: LF: There's a Wolf in the woods - XES WOLF 29/30 Apr Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageHi Dave,

> It was going great, then my decoder reset itself for some reason.

The decoder resets after at 32 + 1 frames (96 seconds each), or less, which can be defined on the "WOLF Config" tab of the GUI. It has to, and it makes sense to clear the "memory" of the WOLF decoder from time to time. Otherwise, a strong signal of a few minutes (or so) would fill the decoder's "integrator" (to compare it with analogue circuitry) and other, weaker signals wouldn't have a chance to be decoded.

To use someone else's words: "It's a feature, not a bug" .

73, Wolf DL4YHF.

P.S: Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions for the WOLF GUI via direct mail. There will be a new version later, maybe even tonite, which greatly simplifies two-way QSO's by receiving and transmitting automatically in "time slots" (for example, transmit for 15 minutes, then listen for 15 minutes, then transmit again, etc).

--- original Nachricht Ende ----

Amazing! Not sure when this was received, but it was probably around 0400 utc. It was going great, then my decoder reset itself for some reason. Well done everyone! 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:59:53 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRz45-0000nB-3k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:59:53 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRz8b-000Mml-He for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:04:33 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRz8b-000Mmi-EJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:04:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRz44-0001c9-II for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:59:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRz3C-000103-Ms for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:58:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRz3C-0000zu-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:58:58 +0100 Received: from smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca ([216.46.129.246]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRz38-0006S0-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:58:58 +0100 Received: from mail.hurontel.on.ca (mail.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.11]) by smtp-out1.hurontel.on.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3UKqqvm031416 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:52:53 -0400 Received: from server (dial-220.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.128.220]) by mail.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3UKwD4S023965 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000c01c54dbf$9bb74a20$dc802ed8@server> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4262A3A1.2655.2585C71@localhost> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:01:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 216.46.129.246 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of hurontel.on.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: A progress report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: New to list > Welcome to the reflector. Not only are questions permissible, they > they are practically compulsory. We have already made the mistakes > you are probably going to make, so put your proposals forward and > group members will help you get the maximum fun for the minimum > hassle. > > 73 > Mike, G3XDV > http://lf.apersonalguide.co.uk > Hello Mike, LFer's Thanks for making me feel welcome on the LF reflector. I thought that I'd pass along a progress report. Despite weeks of steady rain and way below normal temps, I've managed to fabricate the frame for my VE7SL style loop and just today I got the 16 foot high mast for it into place and guyed four ways. Being on the shore of Lake Huron, we experience a lot of strong winds, so I'm building everything heavy duty. Equipment wise, I plan to use my venerable old TS-440 as my receiver, along with a Timewave DSP-59+, and the latest version of Spectran in my older Pentium II running Win 98. I've been playing with that setup, using it to log some NDBs for practice in tuning and tweeking. A lot to learn, but a lot of fun as well. Hopefully the weather will improve enough in the next few weeks for me to actually get the loop wound and in place on the mast. As soon as it's operational, I'll be watching for some activity from you fellows, but in the meantime, I'm enjoying reading the postings each day of what is being accomplished! 73, J.B. Weazle McCreath, VE3EAR - VE3WZL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:07:56 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRzBs-0000ft-1G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:07:56 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRzGy-000HqH-0C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:13:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRzGx-000HqE-UC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:13:11 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRzEO-0005Ht-FE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:10:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DRzBi-00014c-Lo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:07:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DRzBi-00014T-85 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:07:46 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([194.97.50.155] ident=exim) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DRzBg-0006UF-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:07:46 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DRzBR-0002Ge-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:07:29 +0200 Received: from www9.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.202]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.51 #8) id 1DRzBR-0003n5-8f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:07:29 +0200 Received: from www-data by www9.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.34 1 (Panther_1)) id 1DRzBQ-0006dX-Uq for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:07:29 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 217.9.27.57 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:07:28 +0200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 194.97.50.155 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of freenet.de X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_40_50=0.086,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.279,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185 Subject: LF: WOLF Reloaded Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MessageHi Brian and group,

Sorry Brian (CT1DRP), my direct reply to you bounced, and because I use the webmail function this moment I cannot send it again.
>From my experience, calibrating the sampling rate once is adequate - no need IMHO to have a "permanently running" calibration using the 2nd input of the soundcard.

Besides this, I am playing with a kind of "QSO mode" in the new WOLF GUI at the moment. Parameters:
- DF0WD transmits 15 minutes, using the *first* period (xx:00 and xx:30)
- DF0WD then receives 15 minutes (xx:15, xx:45)
- testing frequency is 137.6000 kHz at the moment, but will stop to look for TA signals later

Any reply (or response) would be appreciated. If anyone wants a crash-course how to configure the "QSO mode", I will prepare a short info and send it through the reflector.

Best regards,
Wolf DL4YHF ( @ DF0WD @ the moment )

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:25:57 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRb7d-0001eY-B7 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:25:57 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRbCY-000NeZ-Tm for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DRbCY-000NeQ-Qp for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:02 +0100 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.83]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DRb7c-0001e0-L7 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:25:56 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3TJMM1J029388; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:24:14 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16398 for lowfer-14416503; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.79]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16394 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6884 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2005 19:22:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2005 19:22:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c54cf2$5e275600$8d01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@lwca.org References: <427256DA.5010507@freenet.de> <004b01c54ce0$6e08c160$8d01a8c0@JKA> Subject: [LW] XES WOLF 29/30 Apr Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:33:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES will be sending WOLF on 137.441 kHz tonight starting by 2300 UTC, with 200 watts output. Local sunset is at 2345. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:41:11 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPpmp-0005Tz-ND for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:41:11 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpqz-00057K-OG for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:45:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.71] (helo=pih-mxcore05.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpqz-00057H-LO for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:45:29 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPpmo-0005za-PR for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:41:11 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3OMcYoO028781; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:40:45 GMT Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16463 for lowfer-14416503; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.74]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16458 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1389 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 22:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2005 22:38:32 -0000 Message-ID: <00b801c54915$f416c140$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] WOLF Again Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:38:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES is back on 137.441 kHz tonight, with WOLF at 200 watts. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:45:17 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPTNF-0004Jr-AD for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:45:17 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPTQn-0006Xu-D9 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:48:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPTQn-0006Xr-Ax for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:48:57 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPTP6-0007He-Ne for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:47:12 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3NMdxJK023469; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:42:49 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA18121 for lowfer-14416503; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.79]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18117 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10815 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 22:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout01-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.79) with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2005 22:39:55 -0000 Message-ID: <00c301c5484d$13ece0e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] QRO WOLF Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES is back on for the night on 137.441 kHz with WOLF at 200 watts output. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:27:39 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP4kV-0002wb-MW for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:27:39 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4kU-0006QS-95 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:27:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4kU-0006QP-6z for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:27:38 +0100 Received: from mail7.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.81]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DP4mF-0007lk-E8 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:29:27 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail7.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3MKOpgu007267; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:27:05 GMT Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07475 for lowfer-14416503; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.74]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07471 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2421 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2005 20:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2005 20:24:48 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c5477a$db86e480$7801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] WOLF Tonight Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:35:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) WD2XES will run in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. Power will be 6 dB lower than usual, 50 vs. 200 watts. It should be on the air by 2200 UTC. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:48 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOzE3-000084-Ul for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:48 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOzHq-0001LI-LR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:37:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.75] (helo=pih-mxcore09.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DOzHq-0001LF-Hx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:37:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore09.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOzE2-0005uR-Sp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DOzDk-00059H-Ta for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DOzDk-000598-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.74]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOzDj-0000gI-2r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 3564 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2005 14:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2005 14:33:23 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c54749$c46d0170$7801a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:44:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.74 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: WOLF Test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I'm back from a business trip -- If anyone would like a WD2XES WOLF test signal tonight, I'd be happy to oblige. If wanted, lower power operation is easy, as the amp has a volume control! Tnx to Hartmut for the nice copy from Wednesday morning. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:46:14 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOdsc-0007R5-Ek for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:46:14 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DOdsc-00056X-1G for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:46:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.78] (helo=pih-mxcore12.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DOdsb-00056U-Tf for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:46:13 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by pih-mxcore12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DOdsb-00070z-BI for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:46:13 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3LFdv4n028792; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:44:58 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27132 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f30.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.40]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27116 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:39:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XDW off - Tstorms Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:39:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2005 15:39:14.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[454714B0:01C54688] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00d) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thunderstorms are a comin' down the plains - I shut down the beacon this morning at around 0700 CST Thursday 21st April - It may stay off all day as the forecast isnt that rosy. Laurence em26aq wd2xdw kl1x/5 status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:05:27 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore05.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNzuR-0002I9-LC for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:05:27 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNzxQ-000HlT-3x for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:08:32 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNzxQ-000HlQ-1l for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:08:32 +0100 Received: from mail2.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.76]) by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNzuR-000091-1W for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:05:27 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail2.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3JKwApI028517; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:04:45 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11002 for lowfer-14416503; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.74]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10998 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10769 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2005 20:58:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (208.37.242.34) by smtpout03-04.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.74) with ESMTP; 19 Apr 2005 20:58:01 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c54523$f50da050$7e01a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XES WOLF 137.441 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:08:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WD2XES will be running again in WOLF mode tonight, from 2230 until 0200 UTC on 137.441 kHz (note early stop time). John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:51 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore03.plus.net ([192.168.71.7]) by pih-mxcore10.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNerL-0008Is-4v for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:51 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DNerK-0003OL-SH for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.71.2] (helo=ptb-viruscore01.plus.net) by pih-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DNerK-0003OI-QR for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.73] (helo=pih-mxcore07.plus.net)by ptb-viruscore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1DNerK-0003Bu-Obfor g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:50 +0100 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.83])by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNerK-00045V-Ck for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:36:50 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188])by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3IMYmSA015546;Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:36:10 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost)by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12734for lowfer-14416503; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.194])by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12717for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28348 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2005 22:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18)by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2005 22:34:38 -0000 Message-ID: <003201c5445e$805fbe20$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XES WOLF 137.441 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:35:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-Virus-Scanned: By PlusNet VirusCORE (v3.01b) X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) WD2XES is running in WOLF mode tonight on 137.441 kHz. All reports are welcome. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES FN42ch WD2XES Status: http://www.w1tag.com ________________________________________ Attachments are NOT scanned for viruses...check before opening! Subscribe, unsubscribe or get help - http://lwca.org/groups.htm -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:15:18 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore08.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNLnB-0007Tz-T4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:15:17 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNLpu-0003fT-Oc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DNLpu-0003fH-Du for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:06 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DNLqW-0005BX-1S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:18:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DNLme-0001gG-Ga for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:14:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DNLme-0001g7-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:14:44 +0100 Received: from bay102-f31.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.41] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNLmc-0007gW-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:14:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:14:36 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.209 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:14:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.209] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:14:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 02:14:36.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E069710:01C543BC] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.41 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: XDW on "Alien space invader mode" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit XDW on 137.7752/137.7756 Khz DFCW dot 90 - Dash High Dot is being swept from 137.7752 to 137.7755 KHz and back at a rate of 3 sec per "cycle" Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq Oklahoma wd2xdw http://myweb.cableone.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:08:28 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore01.plus.net ([192.168.71.1]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DNHwK-0003Yo-FU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At the suggestion of Hartmut Wolf, WD2XGJ will be running QRP (12 watts) tonight on 137.7798 KHz. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7221 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 06:55:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 06:55:02 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DLyFi-0003u3-GV for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:55:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DLyFi-0003u0-Ep for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:55:02 +0100 Received: from mail1.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.75]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLyIv-00010x-50 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:58:21 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail1.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3E6q3wY025190; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:54:24 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14887 for lowfer-14416503; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14883 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cognizant1 ([64.180.173.28]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with SMTP id <20050414065125.IJXO562.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@cognizant1>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:51:25 -0600 Message-ID: <007d01c540be$94151260$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: lowfer@lwca.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] CKN also on... Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:52:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Seems the dudes over at CKN are really bored as they have both 133.1KHz and a newer 124.0KHz channel running tonight... Both are presently modulating in anger as of ~0700UTC. A stereo trans-pacific beacon?

TIL is presently now 'off' as the conditions don't warrant the hydro...

73 Scott

Check the status of radio beacon 'TIL' in CN89lg at:
www.scottboxx.com/radio
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71996 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 21:00:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 21:00:14 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLp0V-000DPt-6T for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:02:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.71.2] (helo=ptb-viruscore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLp0U-000DPf-Su for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:02:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.72] (helo=pih-mxcore06.plus.net)by ptb-viruscore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1DLoy5-0004uZ-Pofor g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:00:13 +0100 Received: from mail10.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.84])by pih-mxcore06.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DLoy5-0008WI-GS for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:00:13 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188])by mail10.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3DKuc45025200;Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:59:41 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost)by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29804for lowfer-14416503; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42])by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29800for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([138.88.1.28])by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04(built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IEW004X8KU4FQ14@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> forlowfer@lwca.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:56:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:56:28 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot Subject: [LW] Re: LF: Palstar ZM-30 Digital Antenna Bridge on LF? In-reply-to: <041320051514.29483.425D3739000D40FE0000732B22070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: LWCA LF Reflector Message-id: <425D877C.2060704@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <041320051514.29483.425D3739000D40FE0000732B22070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2)Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax;nscd1) Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-PN-Virus-Scanned: By PlusNet VirusCORE (v3.01b) X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote:

Hi, Just got the new (May) QST and saw a review article on antenna analyzers. The Palstar ZM-30 is rated for use from 1-30 MHz, but there is a footnote that states" "** Tunes 0-30 MHz. Usable down to about 0.1 MHz" The ZM-30 features a dds synthesizer with 10 Hz steps and can measure complex impedance. Has anyone tried one of these on 137 kHz? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi

Six years ago, I bought a Complex Impedance Analyzer (CIA) from AEA. At my request they modified to operate down to 100 kHz.
It works beautifully, and is easy to use.
For some reason, it was reviewed in the QST article.
Their newer model: http://www.aeatechnology.com/html/via_bravo.htm
covers from 100 kHZ to 200 MHz
73
André N4ICK

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17122 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLjcB-0004K8-Hj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLjcA-0004Ju-E9 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:14 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLjcz-0002VT-Ad for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:05 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLjZM-0006vC-7e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLjZL-0006v3-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:19 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLjZJ-0001KS-1z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:14:19 +0100 Received: from 204.127.197.111 (unknown[204.127.197.128](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041315140501500h1hb8e>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:10 +0000 Received: from [24.63.207.117] by 204.127.197.111; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:02 +0000 From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ To: rsgb lf reflector , LWCA LF Reflector Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:02 +0000 Message-Id: <041320051514.29483.425D3739000D40FE0000732B22070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 204.127.198.39 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of comcast.net X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_BY_IP=0.024,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.531 Subject: LF: Palstar ZM-30 Digital Antenna Bridge on LF? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, Just got the new (May) QST and saw a review article on antenna analyzers. The Palstar ZM-30 is rated for use from 1-30 MHz, but there is a footnote that states" "** Tunes 0-30 MHz. Usable down to about 0.1 MHz" The ZM-30 features a dds synthesizer with 10 Hz steps and can measure complex impedance. Has anyone tried one of these on 137 kHz? -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ FN42hi From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29599 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 19:57:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2005 19:57:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKM7L-000LuW-Uf for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:59:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DKM7L-000LuT-SI for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:59:43 +0100 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.83]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DKM8e-0004fW-Dl for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:01:04 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j39Jt8iP021484; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:57:14 GMT Received: (from lwca@localhost) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27641 for lowfer-14416503; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.194]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27635 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12043 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 19:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.194) with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2005 19:55:00 -0000 Message-ID: <006701c53d35$b0b462e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@lwca.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [LW] XES Jason Slow Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:55:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) *** Membership to this list is closed until April 15. 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To subscribe, unsubscribe or get other help, see http://lwca.org/groups.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77326 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 15:23:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 15:23:13 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJCOM-000MBl-T4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:24:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DJCOM-000MBh-KX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:24:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DJCQ4-0003cF-FW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:26:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DJCMj-0003vF-HS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DJCMj-0003v6-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from bay102-f38.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.48] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJCMh-0002Mh-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:22:49 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:22:40 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.206 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:22:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.206] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:22:39 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2005 15:22:40.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[789831F0:01C53ABC] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 64.4.61.48 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: XDW off Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Even though my web site says the beacon is on, its off as we are experiencing nasty storms. My cable and FTP process is out so guess yesterdays storms did some damage down the line. Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 931 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 02:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore03.plus.net) (192.168.71.7) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 02:22:30 -0000 Received: from Debian-exim by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.44) id 1DIdi2-0006ou-4A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:22:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIdi2-0006or-2S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:22:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIdlo-0001i1-RL for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:26:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DIdhN-0007ga-9y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:21:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DIdhM-0007gR-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:21:48 +0100 Received: from omc2-s13.bay6.hotmail.com ([65.54.249.23]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIdhJ-0008BL-EK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:21:48 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.61.34]) by omc2-s13.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:21:39 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:21:39 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:21:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:21:38 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2005 02:21:39.0151 (UTC) FILETIME=[32DA85F0:01C53986] X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of hotmail.com designates 65.54.249.23 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: LF: XDW back on Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Ive taken one of the stacked toroids off which was thermally damaged (they get very brittle), now left with two. Ive replaced the primary (18 turns #12 insulated )and secondary windings and back on at 49.5A loop current at 0220z Tuesday. Taking temperatures with the thermal "imager" to check for further hotspots..... Ive learnt that microbore isnt too good in my application. Ive replaced the 2 turns secondary in series with C and the loop with #4 insulated cable and seen a slight an increase of 3 amps in the loop current. The wind is blowing a bit and storms are forecasted tomorrow. Laurence KL1x/5 wd2xdw 137,7753/6 dfcw 90 and cw.... http://myweb.cableone.net/flow From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8979 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 12:17:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 12:17:55 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQXb-0002q4-OZ for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:18:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DIQXb-0002pt-I9 for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:18:51 +0100 Received: from mail9.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.83]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DIQaR-0000tX-Hh for g3yxm@wireless.org.uk; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:21:47 +0100 Received: from lwca.org (lwca.org [216.122.11.188]) by mail9.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j34CG86I014728; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:17:28 GMT Received: by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27403 for lowfer-14416503; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OMC3-S33.phx.gbl (omc3-s33.bay6.hotmail.com [65.54.249.107]) by lwca.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27333 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.61.41]) by OMC3-S33.phx.gbl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:15:24 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:15:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org Subject: [LW] WD2XDW off Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:15:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2005 12:15:24.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB004A00:01C5390F] Sender: owner-lowfer@lwca.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit *** Membership to this list is closed until April 15. You can unsubscribe *** at any time. New/returning subscribers, contact: webmaster@lwca.org ________________________________________ XDw is off - sometime CST overnight the main 2:18T transformer failed, but its still too dark to see that the damage is, but maybe I had too much of a sharp bend on the 2T copper 8mm diam secondary microbore. The primary connection onto the transformers has certainly melted off...love these currents! Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw 137.7752/6 ________________________________________ File attachments, if any, have NOT been virus scanned...check before opening! To subscribe, unsubscribe or get other help, see http://lwca.org/groups.htm