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  I'm in W4 land,

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Quoting g3ldo <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>:

> Leicester show
> Dave Pick said:
> 
> Anyone going to the Leicester show tomorrow, Friday?
> There's a rumour that G4GVC will be there!
> I'll hang around the bar at 1 O-clock (no change there then).
> 
> I will be there on Saturday - I am giving an antenna talk at 1400.
> It would be nice to see G4GVC again
> 
> Erica and myself staying at the Thistle Hotel (East Midlands Airport) Friday
> and Saturday night.
> 
> Peter G3LDO
> 
> 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LF condx marginal but G3YXM active on 137.7 khz, 
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Very early copy of VO1NA here last night, 2100-2130 UTC. But I did not
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HI,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A good copy of VO1NA this night at 02:36 UTC in 
JO65BP Town Roskilde in Denmark</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vy 73 Ingolf</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Interestingly I had very good copy last night from 01:00 until about 06:00
UTC, a later start than on previous nights but vy good "O" copy later.
73 Laurie




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Here nearly the same. Good copy of VO1NA in QRSS30 until 0530. Only
very faint traces during the 0600-0630 segment.
Weak copy of XES around 0500-0540.

73
Hartmut


> Interestingly I had very good copy last night from 01:00 until about 06:00
> UTC, a later start than on previous nights but vy good "O" copy later.
> 73 Laurie



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Dear all

Faint QRSS signal called CQ twice today 1400 - 1430 utc on 137.7 but I just
couldn't quite read it. This grab at 1430.
Anyone identify it?

73
Dave G3YXM
  

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Hi Dave and all:

I think they are my signals, I made some QRSS3 CQ´s on 137702.
I listened CW signals a while ago on 136500, but they were at the audibility
treshold.

73 de José, EA1PX


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Pick" <dave@picks.force9.co.uk>
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> > Dear all
> >
> > Faint QRSS signal called CQ twice today 1400 - 1430 utc on 137.7 but I
> just
> > couldn't quite read it. This grab at 1430.
> > Anyone identify it?
> >
> > 73
> > Dave G3YXM
> >
> >
>




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José

Yes I was wondering if it was you, I could see what could be "EA" and then a
number. Not bad for the middle of the day.
It might have been me on 136.5 CW just before that, I was (just about)
working PA0KDM and ON7ZO.

73
Dave G3YXM

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Hi Dave and all:

I think they are my signals, I made some QRSS3 CQ´s on 137702.
I listened CW signals a while ago on 136500, but they were at the audibility
treshold.

73 de José, EA1PX


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> > Dear all
> >
> > Faint QRSS signal called CQ twice today 1400 - 1430 utc on 137.7 but 
> > I
> just
> > couldn't quite read it. This grab at 1430.
> > Anyone identify it?
> >
> > 73
> > Dave G3YXM
> >
> >
>







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Hi all,

Confirming I got M to O copy of RU RU ... on 137.7895 kHz in the predawn
period this morning, on my home receiving setup.  I'll post edited pics in
due course (unless Ed beats me too it, I emailed him the full size files).
In the meantime I've got to dash to be on time for my operator shift at
ZL6QH, for our club entry in the Oceania contest (SSB this weekend, CW next
weekend).  Please try out your rigs on the higher bands for working stations
participating in the  Oceania contest.

73, Bob ZL2CA




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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heard/Seen at 1910z OH5UFO very strong on 137.7 khz 
calling CQ also EA1PX good signal&nbsp;calling CQ around the same freq. I did 
not see any QSO's taking place. All acty on vy slow QRS. I have worked both 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mal and all:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for nice report. Unfortunately I didn´t see 
the OH5UFO yet, distance between us is 2900 km; when I see his QRSS3 signals I 
call him but there´s no reply, there is a lot of difference in our radiated 
power, I have around 40 mW ERP.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=g3kev.ham@virgin.net href="mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net">hamilton 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heard/Seen at 1910z OH5UFO very strong on 137.7 
  khz calling CQ also EA1PX good signal&nbsp;calling CQ around the same freq. I 
  did not see any QSO's taking place. All acty on vy slow QRS. I have worked 
  both before a few times.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Faint traces of OH5UFO now over here.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heard/Seen at 1910z OH5UFO very strong on 137.7 
  khz calling CQ also EA1PX good signal&nbsp;calling CQ around the same freq. I 
  did not see any QSO's taking place. All acty on vy slow QRS. I have worked 
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congratulations on your successful beacon test. Here in Bavaria the RU RU signal was audible all the time, with fieldstrength peaking ~ 5 µV/m around 18:00. The screenshot shows a slight downward drift (137789.69 to 789.43 Hz).<BR>
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Hi there ...

Now it´s 21:22 utc and I set up receiver / calibration to make an overnight
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Is there any known activitie that could I monitor ?

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Hi all,

Attached are windowed Argo captures of what I received on 137.7895 kHz, with
120 second dot length.  This is the first time I have observed reasonable
copy after local sunrise.  I estimate my sunrise to be approx 0620Z but the
capture at 0653Z shows there is some signal arriving for approx 20 minutes
after "sunrise" time.

Also I can report that Andrew ZL2BBJ got T reception of Ed's beacon.

73, Bob ZL2CA

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Hi all,

I made an error in the subject line of my last posting, the beacon was RU RU
.... and my subject line wrongly said RN.  I must have been thinking of
RN6BN back in April when I drafted the message, but last night it was RU6LA
with a beacon test.  I did name the files correctly.

73, Bob




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wd2xdw is back on 137.7752 qrss60 2:1 ratio - +24 hours

cheerrs
Laurence
em26aq oklahoma
good luck


>From: "PY2PLL Marcus" <py2pll@py.qsl.br>
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>Subject: LF: Any activity tonight ?
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:24:45 -0300
>
>Hi there ...
>
>Now it´s 21:22 utc and I set up receiver / calibration to make an overnight
>record here.
>
>Is there any known activitie that could I monitor ?
>
>73
>Marcus
>PY3CRX/PY2PLL
>
>

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Back on normal channel at 0400Z 137.7752 qrss60 200w input - was doing 
ground wave checks out in the van today and move some Hz LF to clear Erics 
signal from mine - drove to Kansas City Mo (Costco  wine run) and could 
still hear xdw at fair/weak CW strength sitting outside Starbucks at 186 
miles.(bearing 024 degrees) Lots of interesting warbling effects on the 
drive back home this evening...
Cheers
Laurence
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VO1NA: Excellent QRSS30 signal 2100-2210 and 2315-0530 UTC. I think
2210-2315 UTC the tx was off. I have not yet analyzed the 5wpm signal,
but the 5wpm "blur" on the QRSS30 screen looks promising.

WD2XES: Not very strong but stable reception of XES here in Germany
last night. First copied around 0130 UTC. Traces between 0200-0400
UTC. Than 0410-0520 UTC 4 XES segments copied.

Nothing else copied.


 Hartmut Wolff                          mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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  <A title=jpradoes@telefonica.net href="mailto:jpradoes@telefonica.net">José 
  Manuel</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mal and all:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for nice report. Unfortunately I didn´t 
  see the OH5UFO yet, distance between us is 2900 km; when I see his QRSS3 
  signals I call him but there´s no reply, there is a lot of difference in our 
  radiated power, I have around 40 mW ERP.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53ti</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jose.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your signal is visible this morning OOO 
  solid&nbsp;copy at 0942 utc. No problem for us to have a QSO but we have 
  worked before and I am using my&nbsp;TX antenna for 160 m dxing. I am 
  receiving you on my 80m vertical loop antenna.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH</FONT></DIV>
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    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: DX</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heard/Seen at 1910z OH5UFO very strong on 137.7 
    khz calling CQ also EA1PX good signal&nbsp;calling CQ around the same freq. 
    I did not see any QSO's taking place. All acty on vy slow QRS. I have worked 
    both before a few times.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Bob congratualtions on a nice "catch". The after sunrise signal is in
line with my findings. The start of illumination of the ionosphere at 100km
altitude is about 1000km ahead (west) of the ground-level dawn, and the last
westward "reflection" that will reach the ground is from around 1000 to
1200km to the west. The early rays of the sun do seem to trigger the onset
of strong absorption but this can be delayed early in the year when the suns
rays are "weaker". There could also be a downwards tilt at the darkness edge
boosting the signal for a short while, but that is surmise. The signal from
Ed is of course at an angle to the darkness line.

It is interesting to know that the signals hold up after your dawn as there
is little mutual darkness on the path between you and western Europe. I
seems like under good conditions as at present we can, as I had hoped, live
with a little daylight at each end of the path.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
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> Hi all,
>
> Attached are windowed Argo captures of what I received on 137.7895 kHz,
with
> 120 second dot length.  This is the first time I have observed reasonable
> copy after local sunrise.  I estimate my sunrise to be approx 0620Z but
the
> capture at 0653Z shows there is some signal arriving for approx 20 minutes
> after "sunrise" time.
>
> Also I can report that Andrew ZL2BBJ got T reception of Ed's beacon.
>
> 73, Bob ZL2CA
>


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Well, I left argo snaping shot overnight, centered at 137.7750. I first
calibrated it using the 153KHz BC carrier / 60KHz time stations as
reference. I don´t know if 153K is accurate enough but the freq difference
on argo between them was 0.05Hz.

The only thing I got was some traces at 137.7776Hz just before local dawn as
can be viwed at the attached pix. Argo on QRSS30 mode. Was a noisy night
down here.

Lets keep trying ...

73
Marcus
PY3CRX/PY2PLL
GG66rf
Receiver = Kachina 505 DSP @ 100Hz IF Filter
Antenna = 3/4 inch CATV shielded loop, 3 meter diameter + step-up Z xformer
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Thanks Laurence.

I parked at 137.7750 but only got something that looks like a signal at
137.7776 ... noisy night. Loop was beaming 315° which means NA center.

73
Marcus, PY3CRX/PY2PLL
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> wd2xdw is back on 137.7752 qrss60 2:1 ratio - +24 hours
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XDW now dual freq cw - High (dash) 137.7755(ish) and Low (dot) 137,7752, 60 
sec elements

I may bring the High freq down a tweak later...

Laurence kl1x/5 -
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> Hi all:
>
> Can anyone tell me who was on 137700 a while ago?
>
> Thanks.... José, EA1PX
>




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copied VO1NA at 0330UT and from 0530 until 0630UT vy weak, see attachment. 
sunrise was 0615UT.
regards
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Dear LF enthusiasts,

I am glad to congratulate New Zealand's LF enthusiasts on successful
reception of European HAM's beacon!

Some details of my beacon:
- QTH-loc KN97LN (Machta)
- local sunset abt 15z (Oct 2) - sunrise in ZL abt 18z
- start at 1608z (I planned from 1430z) and finish at 1842z in QRSS120
137.7895 "RURURU..."
- power abt 15-20w ERP with Big Vertical (H effective ~90...100m after
some updatings)
- abt 1630z temperature in our field shack was sharply omitted on abt
10 degr C and DDS (VCO) has not sustained it ;-((
- I have sent the personal e-mailes abt my beacon to some ZLs only on Oct 1
at 14z and not all ZLs could RX a beacon

ZLs have made new best distances 1-way on 136kHz (in LA0FX's software):
Bob ZL2CA (RE78IR) - 16473km
Andrew ZL2BBJ (RE78JS) - 16477km

TNX by all for the reports!
(Marcus DF6NM - you all see without any announcements ;-)) freq is not
popular in Eu in QRSS120)

Also TNX to Alan G3NYK for his very useful "Latest Propagation Reports"!
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm#Latest%20Propagation%20Report

73! Ed RU6LA  ed@dx.ru  http://136.73.ru


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Ed RU6LA,

Thanks for working out the distances.
 
> ZLs have made new best distances 1-way on 136kHz (in LA0FX's software):
> Bob ZL2CA (RE78IR) - 16473km
> Andrew ZL2BBJ (RE78JS) - 16477km

These paths are some 34 km further than the paths to Sam RN6BN.

73, Bob ZL2CA




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Ted,

For info, LF one-way world records were extended overnight last Saturday, by
the RU6LA beacon from European Russia.  Paths are some 34 km more than
previous best paths to RN6BN.

73, Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Lesnichy" <ed@dx.ru>
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> Dear LF enthusiasts,
>
> I am glad to congratulate New Zealand's LF enthusiasts on successful
> reception of European HAM's beacon!
>
> Some details of my beacon:
> - QTH-loc KN97LN (Machta)
> - local sunset abt 15z (Oct 2) - sunrise in ZL abt 18z
> - start at 1608z (I planned from 1430z) and finish at 1842z in QRSS120
> 137.7895 "RURURU..."
> - power abt 15-20w ERP with Big Vertical (H effective ~90...100m after
> some updatings)
> - abt 1630z temperature in our field shack was sharply omitted on abt
> 10 degr C and DDS (VCO) has not sustained it ;-((
> - I have sent the personal e-mailes abt my beacon to some ZLs only on Oct
1
> at 14z and not all ZLs could RX a beacon
>
> ZLs have made new best distances 1-way on 136kHz (in LA0FX's software):
> Bob ZL2CA (RE78IR) - 16473km
> Andrew ZL2BBJ (RE78JS) - 16477km
>
> TNX by all for the reports!
> (Marcus DF6NM - you all see without any announcements ;-)) freq is not
> popular in Eu in QRSS120)
>
> Also TNX to Alan G3NYK for his very useful "Latest Propagation Reports"!
>
http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm#Latest%20Propagation%20Rep
ort
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA  ed@dx.ru  http://136.73.ru
>
>
>




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Hi all,	
copied VO1NA strongest from 0558UT until 0630UT.
sunrise was 0614UT.
regards
Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv



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Bought a second hand FT-990 at the Leicester show.
Set it up on 137.7 on Argo and left overnight to check sensitivity and
stability.
Recorded VO1NA signal which was on and off throughout the night with a
complete 'O' ident between 0500 and 0530UTC.

Peter, G3LDO



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 Signal of VO1NA was much poorer than the previous nights here in
 JO52ho. Copied the full callsign 2300-0030 UTC and 0200-0530 UTC.
 The attached screenshot contains 2300-0030 UTC. Strongest signal was
 here 0200-0300 UTC with some 5wpm "blur" on the QRSS30 screen also.
 Sunrise was here around 0525 UTC (0725 MESZ).

 Hartmut Wolff

> Hi all, 
> copied VO1NA strongest from 0558UT until 0630UT.
> sunrise was 0614UT.
> regards
> Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv
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<DIV>In a message dated 05/10/2004 15:11:00 GMT Standard Time, 
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT 
  style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Signal 
  of VO1NA was much poorer than the previous nights here in<BR>JO52ho. Copied 
  the full callsign 2300-0030 UTC and 0200-0530 UTC.<BR>The attached screenshot 
  contains 2300-0030 UTC. Strongest signal was<BR>here 0200-0300 UTC with some 
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<DIV>One question, and sorry if I've missed the answer in previous mails.....Why 
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<DIV><SPAN class=812450708-06102004>Hi David,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=812450708-06102004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=812450708-06102004>You got me curious so I looked in my deleted 
items at Harmut's grab &amp; to me it is definately a "V", I think the fact that 
the vertical dotted lines intersect the first two dots makes it look like a "K", 
I was able to magnify it in my viewer&nbsp;&amp; see the gap, have another 
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT<BR><BR>Web: <A 
href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor" 
target=_blank>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=812450708-06102004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>G0MRF@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 October 2004 07:56<BR><B>To:</B> 
  rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: VO1NA last 
  night<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>In a message dated 05/10/2004 15:11:00 GMT Standard Time, 
  wolff.h@t-online.de writes:</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT 
    style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial>Signal of VO1NA was much 
    poorer than the previous nights here in<BR>JO52ho. Copied the full callsign 
    2300-0030 UTC and 0200-0530 UTC.<BR>The attached screenshot contains 
    2300-0030 UTC. Strongest signal was<BR>here 0200-0300 UTC with some 5wpm 
    "blur" on the QRSS30 screen also.<BR>Sunrise was here around 0525 UTC (0725 
    MESZ).<BR><BR>Hartmut Wolff<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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  <DIV>That's a very impressive period of propagation!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One question, and sorry if I've missed the answer in previous 
  mails.....Why is the call in the QRSS&nbsp;image&nbsp; KO1NA&nbsp; ?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>73</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>David</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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 Hi all,	
 copied VO1NA strongest from 0458UT until 0530UT.
 sunrise was 0516UT.
 regards
 Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv





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Dear Group,

It seems that the iternal clock of the PC used to key the TX
has drifted a bit and is running ahead of its time by half
a minute.  I'll reset the silly thing so the V's won't look like K's!

Thank-you to all who have provided reports and encouragement.

73
Joe

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gary - G4WGT wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> You got me curious so I looked in my deleted items at Harmut's grab & to me
> it is definately a "V", I think the fact that the vertical dotted lines
> intersect the first two dots makes it look like a "K", I was able to magnify
> it in my viewer & see the gap, have another look.
>
> Regards
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
> Web: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of G0MRF@aol.com
>   Sent: 06 October 2004 07:56
>   To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>   Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA last night
>
>
>   In a message dated 05/10/2004 15:11:00 GMT Standard Time,
> wolff.h@t-online.de writes:
>     Signal of VO1NA was much poorer than the previous nights here in
>     JO52ho. Copied the full callsign 2300-0030 UTC and 0200-0530 UTC.
>     The attached screenshot contains 2300-0030 UTC. Strongest signal was
>     here 0200-0300 UTC with some 5wpm "blur" on the QRSS30 screen also.
>     Sunrise was here around 0525 UTC (0725 MESZ).
>
>     Hartmut Wolff
>
>   That's a very impressive period of propagation!
>
>   One question, and sorry if I've missed the answer in previous
> mails.....Why is the call in the QRSS image  KO1NA  ?
>
>   73
>
>   David
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Dear Group,

I am searching for a manual of the
selective Levelmeter MV61 (Praecitronic).

Perhaps somebody of the group knows a
source ?

thanks in advance and 73, Arno - DL7WC



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 Strong QRN here last night 5/6th. Copied only a full callsign of the
 QRSS30 signal 0000-0030 UTC. Strongest signal here 2305-2330 UTC but
 I missed the "V".

 Hartmut Wolff



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Hello Arno,
I'm pretty shure you can get it at Reiner Förtig. He is on the web, so
google will make it. ( I'll have to check him for the MV62, BTW)

73 de Peter, dj9dw.



----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: LF: Manual for Praecitronic Levelmeter MV61


> Dear Group,
>
> I am searching for a manual of the
> selective Levelmeter MV61 (Praecitronic).
>
> Perhaps somebody of the group knows a
> source ?
>
> thanks in advance and 73, Arno - DL7WC
>
>




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Dear LF Group,

Signals from VO1NA have been following a familiar pattern here for the last
few nights, with fairly weak but consistent signals visible most of the time
between about 0000utc and sunrise, with a bit of a "lift" just before the
signals fade out with the rising sun. This morning, XES was also faintly
visible around daybreak, as you can see from the attachment, taken between
about 0550 and 0640.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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Darn Ashlock loops work good ehh??<span class="moz-smiley-s8"><span>
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James Moritz wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Dear LF Group,

Signals from VO1NA have been following a familiar pattern here for the last
few nights, with fairly weak but consistent signals visible most of the time
between about 0000utc and sunrise, with a bit of a "lift" just before the
signals fade out with the rising sun. This morning, XES was also faintly
visible around daybreak, as you can see from the attachment, taken between
about 0550 and 0640.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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<DIV>Dear all.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I received the following, as yet unconfirmed message, via the AMSAT BB 
today.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Message: 7<BR>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:35:02 -0400<BR>From: "Martha" 
&lt;amsat@starpower.net&gt;<BR>Subject: [amsat-bb] SK<BR><BR>I have just learned 
that Larry Kayser, VA3LK passed away suddenly on October<BR>5, 2004.&nbsp; I am 
sure many of us have fond memories of Larry.<BR><BR>73, Martha - AMSAT 
Manager</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>===========================================================</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Larry was credited jointly with the first LF to LF transatlantic QSO a few 
years ago. </DIV>
<DIV>Prior to his LF activities he was involved in the construction of AMSAT 
Oscar 7 which is still operating today. Only a few weeks ago, Larry mailed me 
with his latest plan to move out to St Johns Newfoundland where he was making a 
serious attempt to cross the Atlantic on 2m.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>A man who truly loved a challenge and usually succeeded</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>de&nbsp; David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>so sad</DIV>
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<DIV>I will have to archive the QRSS captures of his signal</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob&nbsp; K3DJC </DIV>
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<DIV>On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 04:26:17 EDT G0MRF@aol.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
  <DIV>Dear all.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I received the following, as yet unconfirmed message, via the AMSAT BB 
  today.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Message: 7<BR>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:35:02 -0400<BR>From: "Martha" 
  &lt;amsat@starpower.net&gt;<BR>Subject: [amsat-bb] SK<BR><BR>I have just 
  learned that Larry Kayser, VA3LK passed away suddenly on October<BR>5, 
  2004.&nbsp; I am sure many of us have fond memories of Larry.<BR><BR>73, 
  Martha - AMSAT Manager</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>===========================================================</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Larry was credited jointly with the first LF to LF transatlantic QSO a 
  few years ago. </DIV>
  <DIV>Prior to his LF activities he was involved in the construction of AMSAT 
  Oscar 7 which is still operating today. Only a few weeks ago, Larry mailed me 
  with his latest plan to move out to St Johns Newfoundland where he was making 
  a serious attempt to cross the Atlantic on 2m.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>A man who truly loved a challenge and usually succeeded</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>de&nbsp; David&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Federico Olaizola" <EA2HB@telefonica.net>
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I have original users manual  (Beschreibung und Bedienungsanleitung) of the
MV 61.  It consist of 43 pages and I believe that it is that Foertig
distributes.

I don't have problems in sending photocopy.   My e-mail is
ea2hb@telefonica.net.

If somebody posseses maintenance manual or as minimun a diagram of blocks
will thank news.

73  Federico     EA2HB


----- Original Message -----
From: Arno Gnaedig <gnadig@t-online.de>
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Subject: LF: Manual for Praecitronic Levelmeter MV61


> Dear Group,
>
> I am searching for a manual of the
> selective Levelmeter MV61 (Praecitronic).
>
> Perhaps somebody of the group knows a
> source ?
>
> thanks in advance and 73, Arno - DL7WC
>
>



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XDW is off air (!) Im presuming from remote dianogstics (....!) that my 
computer has locked and the keyer has ceased.

Im in NM at the moment (facing a lot of nasty storms again after having to 
drive thru one that lasted 120 miles until 0330 MST this morning) - so XDW 
will be off till either I find the tx a "charrd" mess or reboot the maching.

Laurence in Carlsbad


>From: "Jay Rusgrove" <JRusgrove@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org
>To: <lowfer@lwca.org>
>Subject: [LW] Oct 6-7 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:31:29 -0400
>
>All
>
>Very strong signals from VO1NA and XDW until 0030Z when T storms over TX
>and OK took out virtually everything from  0030Z until 1100Z. Faint
>traces of VO1NA in the overnight captures...loran lines were completely
>absent. Here's hoping Thor moves on soon.
>
>Jay
>
>
>
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The RSGB has recently published a new book called 'LF 
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The book builds on the excellent work of G3LDO in the LF 
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Full details can be found by going to
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Copied the QRSS30 signal from VO1NA here last night 2300-0130 and
0300-0530 UTC. Traces only 0200-0230 and 0600-0630 UTC.

Some very faint traces from XES around 0140 and 0500 UTC
  

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@cxxx.net>
Subject: [Moon-net] VA3LK SK


> My great friend Larry Kayser, VA3LK, of many years in AMSAT,
> QRP, and a great lover of using low to the ground yagi's for
> ground enhancement on EME has passed away suddenly with a
> heart attack.
> 
> Larry loved his Elecraft K1,  his Elecraft KX-1.  He was the
> first person to complete a two way transatlantic (full QSO)
> on 137 Khz.  He was a big time contributor technically to
> AMSAT.  He loved showing me his single M^2 yagi and his 200w
> producing echo's that I thought were not possible on 2 meters
> off the moon using "ground" enhancement on the lake where he lived.
> 
> Larry was an indomitable spirit and it can easily be said that
> Larry never did anything half way.  I am sure since he spent
> almost all of his efforts on Christian broadcast networks
> on satellite and Shortwave in the last few years that he
> hit St. Peter pretty hard as he burst through the Pearly
> gates on the way to his just reward.
> 
> He will be missed.
> 
> Bob
> N4HY




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Oh my God... could he rest in peace. This explain the delay in
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meter band. He wanted<br>
to learn how to use the Intel Signal Processing Library for his
program, and I sent him some <br>
sample code about one week ago, but then I hadn't any feedback from
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Could God let him realize all of his ham dreams....<br>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I have seen reports of Larry's death on here, very sad.</FONT>

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Dear Group,
I have received an email from the Dave Goodwin VO1AU, Atlantic Director
of RAC in confirmation of this very sad news. Larry was an inspiration
for us all and will be sadly missed.

73
Joe VO1NA

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Dave Pick wrote:

> Dear all
>
> I have seen reports of Larry's death on here, very sad.
> Can anyone confirm the fact?
> I am writing my column for the Radcom and don't want to make a mistake on
> something like that.
>
> 73
>
> Dave G3YXM.
>
>


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I'll be running tonight on 137.5728 in QRSS3 mode at full (500W) power
starting around 0400Z...presently running at 60W input.....any reports
gratefully received on either signal . Still running on the original 3-wire
flatop which will be replaced once the tx gets broken in. Thanks to the
recently completed scope match, I have the antenna tuned much better than
before.
Sorry for not being in 'the window' but a DDS is high on my project list.

73 / Steve / VE7SL
CN88 Mayne Island, BC



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EA1PX just calling on 137702,5 Hz in QRSS3. Signal 12dB above the
noise. See attachement.



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Hartmut, thanks for nice report.

73 de José, EA1PX



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <wolff.h@t-online.de>
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>
>
> > EA1PX just calling on 137702,5 Hz in QRSS3. Signal 12dB above the
> > noise. See attachement.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> >  Locator: JO52ho
>




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Nice one Jose.....Congratulations.
73 de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message ----- 
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> EA1PX just calling on 137702,5 Hz in QRSS3. Signal 12dB above the
> noise. See attachement.
> 
> 
> 
>  Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
>  Locator: JO52ho



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Thanks Alan, but unfortunately there´s no reply to my calls, perhaps it´s
too late, I´m going to bed also.....hi

73 de José, EA1PX




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> Nice one Jose.....Congratulations.
> 73 de Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> > EA1PX just calling on 137702,5 Hz in QRSS3. Signal 12dB above the
> > noise. See attachement.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> >  Locator: JO52ho
>
>




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<html>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica">John seems to have some problems sending
mail to the reflector, so I'll give it a try :<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>All, just a short note to say that
an RSGB proposal for access to 500kHz has <br>
been passed to Ofcom last week. The proposal can be viewed in full at
<br>
</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica" color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/mf.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/mf.htm</a></u></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica">.<br>
Grateful, if any members of the RSGB LF_Group reflector would post a note
on <br>
my behalf alerting members of the proposal. Unfortunately, I am unable to
<br>
post to the reflector for some unknown reason and can't even get an
e-mail <br>
to the sysop to get him to sort out the problem!<br>
73 John, G3WKL</blockquote><br>
73, Rik&nbsp; ON7YD</font></html>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Dear all</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">John G3WKL has asked me to pass on the following info re: RSGB LF awards...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">The web-site has been updated with the latest figures on what awards have been claimed.&nbsp; See</FONT>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Only one god capture of VO1NA at 02:30 UTC her at 
JO65BP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC</FONT></DIV>
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Interesting, the 02:00-02:30 and the 03:00-03:30 segments were the
weakest here last night. 01:00-01:30, 04:00-06:30 UTC the signal was
strong. For the first time I noted some very faint traces between
07:00-07:30 UTC. Sunrise here was 05:38 UTC.

 Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
 Locator: JO52HO


> Hi,

> Only one god capture of VO1NA at 02:30 UTC her at JO65BP.

> Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

> oz7qc@schaui.dk



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<P>No trace of VO1NA at all this night in JO65BP.</P>
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Subject: Re: LF: No trace of VO1NA this night in JO65BP
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High QRN level here, but good copy of the QRSS30 signal 01:00-04:30
UTC.See attachement taken 03:30. Only traces 05:00-06:30 UTC.

Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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> Hi,

> No trace of VO1NA at all this night in JO65BP.

> Vy 73 Ingolf OZ7QC

> oz7qc@schaui.dk
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Hello Hartmut,

Amazingly clear image despite QRN .. never was able to copy VO1NA so clearly, so for my curiosity : Did you use any kind of noiseblanker when making the recording, hard- or software ?

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Wolf DL4YHF/DF0WD
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Hello Wolf,

no I did not use any kind of noiseblanker when making the recording.

The noiseblanker of the NRD-525 is unable to blank noise if there is a
stronger signal in the range of the 1st IF (+/-15 kHz). DCF39 is much
stronger than most of the QRN.

I have not tried the noiseblanker in the used Spectrum Lab version
v2.4b12 yet. Many thanks for this great software.

73
Hartmut



> Hello Hartmut,

> Amazingly clear image despite QRN .. never was able to copy VO1NA so
> clearly, so for my curiosity : Did you use any kind of noiseblanker
> when making the recording, hard- or software ?

> Greetings all,

> Wolf DL4YHF/DF0WD
> - still damned to be LWL (longwave listener) -



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Hello Mike,

I got my copy of "LF Today" in the mail today.
A nice addition to my slowly expanding longwave library!

However, there is an error on page 109. The QRSS signal at the
bottom of the screen capture is not mine, I have never been actively
involved in Atlantic crossing on LF. The lower trace reads "J  SM6P..."
so it is probably Christer, SM6PXJ, who was very active at that time.

73
Johan SM6LKM

Mike Dennison wrote:
> The RSGB has recently published a new book called 'LF 
> Today', written by me!
[...]



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Greetings all,

Just found this on the German "DARC" website:

> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung 
> auf der Grundlage des TKG ist am 7. Oktober 2004 
> in Kraft getreten. Sie enthält Verbesserungen für 
> die Funkamateure, wie beispielsweise
>
> * Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz 

(No more crazy 20-W-PEP limit for the transmitter, but 1-W-ERP limit, good news for 99 % of us - those without access to commercial longwave towers ;-)


In other words, heat up your soldering irons, guys.

(For me, time to climb up those old lightmasts at the clubstation again).

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD .




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A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
Good news anyway, I'll be listening this weekend.
Any more Decca TXs about?

73
Dave G3YXM., 

-----Original Message-----
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Greetings all,

Just found this on the German "DARC" website:

> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung
> auf der Grundlage des TKG ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten. 
> Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie beispielsweise
>
> * Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz

(No more crazy 20-W-PEP limit for the transmitter, but 1-W-ERP limit, good
news for 99 % of us - those without access to commercial longwave towers ;-)


In other words, heat up your soldering irons, guys.

(For me, time to climb up those old lightmasts at the clubstation again).

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD .







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Dave Pick wrote:

>A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
>  
>
>>Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnun
>>

Well, we have been lucky it is not a separable verb.... for a truly 
interesting
reading, go here and search the page for "separable verbs" :
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/texts/twain.german.html

73  Alberto  I2PHD





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Hi Dave and group,

The document is at

http://www.darc.de/aktuell/voinfo/vor151004.html

Well, is it already in force ? The passage ...

> [..] Die neuen im wesentlichen für die Funkamateure
> vorteilhaften Bestimmungen sollen noch in die neue
> Amateurfunkverordnung, insbesondere die Anlage 1, 
> eingearbeitet werden. [..]

Crude translation:

(the new, mostly positive regulations for radio amateurs shall be implemented in the new ham radio regulation, especially appendix 1, [..] )

Well, sounds a bit like "yet to come", but read on..

> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung auf der 
> Grundlage des TKG ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten. 
> Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie 
> beispielsweise [...]
> Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz (LW)

Sounds better, like the good news about LF are in force already. My attempt to translate the above, keeping the 40-letter word in its entire uncensored prettiness :

The frequency-range-assignment-plan-regulation based on the telecommunication law has come into power on October 7th, 2004. I
It contains improvements for radio amateurs, for example [...] 1 W ERP in the range 135.7 to 137.8 kHz.

The "most significant hyhen" is usually the one before the last word, here between plan and regulation. Read the thing from left to right - it's primarily a "regulation". What it regulates is a "plan", the plan is the assignment of a range of frequencies.
Phew - can simple things be put in such complicated word in other languages too ? Someone please put me right if this is totally wrong (blame it on the red wine) - Walter DJ2LF still on the reflector ?

Best regards, 
Wolf DL4YHF.



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Early fade in of VO1NA tonight. The QRSS30 signal is visible since
21:00 UTC.


Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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Thanks Wolf.

You did better than Google's translation tool!

73
Dave G3YXM 

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Subject: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany

Hi Dave and group,

The document is at

http://www.darc.de/aktuell/voinfo/vor151004.html

Well, is it already in force ? The passage ...

> [..] Die neuen im wesentlichen für die Funkamateure vorteilhaften 
> Bestimmungen sollen noch in die neue Amateurfunkverordnung, 
> insbesondere die Anlage 1, eingearbeitet werden. [..]

Crude translation:

(the new, mostly positive regulations for radio amateurs shall be
implemented in the new ham radio regulation, especially appendix 1, [..] )

Well, sounds a bit like "yet to come", but read on..

> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung auf der Grundlage des TKG 
> ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten.
> Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie beispielsweise 
> [...] Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz (LW)

Sounds better, like the good news about LF are in force already. My attempt
to translate the above, keeping the 40-letter word in its entire uncensored
prettiness :

The frequency-range-assignment-plan-regulation based on the
telecommunication law has come into power on October 7th, 2004. I It
contains improvements for radio amateurs, for example [...] 1 W ERP in the
range 135.7 to 137.8 kHz.

The "most significant hyhen" is usually the one before the last word, here
between plan and regulation. Read the thing from left to right - it's
primarily a "regulation". What it regulates is a "plan", the plan is the
assignment of a range of frequencies.
Phew - can simple things be put in such complicated word in other languages
too ? Someone please put me right if this is totally wrong (blame it on the
red wine) - Walter DJ2LF still on the reflector ?

Best regards,
Wolf DL4YHF.






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Ive invoked the Decca amp (thanks Crawley club!) and it needs a bit of 
tweaking, but we are running close to 30-35A aerial current into the loop as 
is and nothing cap/toroid wise is getting warm - final power will be around 
1Kw when ive done the final tweeks to the coils in the PA.

Ground wave tests whilst mobile using an E probe and FT817 and XDW at 180W 
with the MRF amp (12 amps AEI) had the signal CW audible to 500 miles whilst 
drive on I40, so it looks, even given the diminutive size relative to 
lambda, that these things radiate quite well .-3dB points look like 110 deg 
on this one, and Eu is around 1-1.5dB down on the main lobe - Northern 
Africa gets the biggest theoretical signal towards the East.

Let the games begin.

Laurence KL1X/5 Okie

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Laurence,

She's looking a bit healthy up here tonight. I think ur gonna re-define 
Dogbones. :-D

Later,
Mike

Laurence KL1X wrote:

> Ive invoked the Decca amp (thanks Crawley club!) and it needs a bit of 
> tweaking, but we are running close to 30-35A aerial current into the 
> loop as is and nothing cap/toroid wise is getting warm - final power 
> will be around 1Kw when ive done the final tweeks to the coils in the PA.
>
> Ground wave tests whilst mobile using an E probe and FT817 and XDW at 
> 180W with the MRF amp (12 amps AEI) had the signal CW audible to 500 
> miles whilst drive on I40, so it looks, even given the diminutive size 
> relative to lambda, that these things radiate quite well .-3dB points 
> look like 110 deg on this one, and Eu is around 1-1.5dB down on the 
> main lobe - Northern Africa gets the biggest theoretical signal 
> towards the East.
>
> Let the games begin.
>
> Laurence KL1X/5 Okie
>
> Beacon status
> http://myweb.cableone.net/flow
>
> _




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He he he, audible TX loop signal<span class="moz-smiley-s5"><span> :-D&nbsp;
</span></span>Yep he is smokin my receiver tonight. Gotta love those
loops huh? I have a feeling the vertical guys will re-think their
antenna idea.&nbsp; Now we need to see Scott put up a smaller version of the
Ashlock loop to see how it can perform compared to his suburban
vertical. I hope Bill goes for his Part 5 license as he has plenty of
time to experiment with different sized loops. I would like to see one
of his pipe loops with about 50a of current<span class="moz-smiley-s8"><span>
=-O&nbsp; </span></span>&amp; a kilowatt.<br>
<br>
Yower....<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
Mitch Powell wrote:
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  <blockquote>How's that killer strong Ashlockin looper signal up there
Mitch???<br>
-- <br>
  </blockquote>
Mike<br>
  <br>
Just watched for last half hour - XDW &nbsp;-35.0 dB &nbsp;and XES &nbsp;-51 dB on
ARGO.<br>
In addition, and "first time" XDW is AUDIBLE here in London at 10 pM
(0200Z)<br>
Just about 1000 miles.<br>
  <br>
Mitch
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Throw up some #8 house wire for the loop conductor. It is way better
than the #12 wire and will last longer than the coax conductor. #8 will
handle more current than you care to generate.<br>
<br>
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receiver tonight. Gotta love those loops huh?<br>
    <br>
Still looks like the best I can do here is RG58/59 rather than #12. <br>
    <br>
Right now ( 10:40PM ) Laurence is audible on the speaker - <br>
and across the room - where I have just finished building a<br>
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Laurence is pretty dern strong here as well...considering the local
lightning has completely removed any trace of loran lines. Will be
interesting to get a look at that Decca / 35 amp loop current  after
Thor moves on.

Jay


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>
>
>
> He he he, audible TX loop signal :-D Yep he is smokin my receiver
tonight.
> Gotta love those loops huh?
>
> Still looks like the best I can do here is RG58/59 rather than #12.
>
> Right now ( 10:40PM ) Laurence is audible on the speaker -
> and across the room - where I have just finished building a
> "Tower of Power" and wrapping it up with duct tape !
>
> Mitch
>
>



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> > She's looking a bit healthy up here tonight. I think ur gonna re-define
> > Dogbones. :-D


A nice signal up here tonight as well Laurence.

Steve / VE7SL


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Laurence et al

I didn't see anything last night on the grabs but if you're going to keep
this up for another night I'll "zoom in" on 137.775 with a 60s Argo. Dawn
here is about 0620 gmt.
It's a 7,100km haul though with a lot of land in it...

73
Dave G3YXM.

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Subject: LF: xdw making the lights dim in Okie (and they do)

Ive invoked the Decca amp (thanks Crawley club!) and it needs a bit of
tweaking, but we are running close to 30-35A aerial current into the loop as
is and nothing cap/toroid wise is getting warm - final power will be around
1Kw when ive done the final tweeks to the coils in the PA.

Ground wave tests whilst mobile using an E probe and FT817 and XDW at 180W
with the MRF amp (12 amps AEI) had the signal CW audible to 500 miles whilst
drive on I40, so it looks, even given the diminutive size relative to
lambda, that these things radiate quite well .-3dB points look like 110 deg
on this one, and Eu is around 1-1.5dB down on the main lobe - Northern
Africa gets the biggest theoretical signal towards the East.

Let the games begin.

Laurence KL1X/5 Okie

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Since the company hosting my website (www.lf.thersgb.net) 
decided to delete the site without informing me, I have had 
to move it (this is why it is essential to have a local copy!). 
Note, although this host was originally associated with the 
RSGB, it is not any more.

The temporary location is:
http://www.apersonalguide/lf/

Anyone linking to my old site should alter the link now. Sorry 
for any inconvenience.

I have a new page featuring the new RSGB book about 
136kHz:
http://www.apersonalguide/lf/lftoday/

I am looking for a cheap and reliable web host offering 
perhaps 50Mb of storage. Any suggestions, please, to my 
direct e-mail (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com), not via this 
reflector.

Mike, G3XDV
===========



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From: "Walter Staubach" <walter.staubach@fen-net.de>
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Hallo Wolf and others,
         yes, I´m still on the reflector. This 40-letter-word should be
given to the guinness book. It is mad and a sample for misusing the German
language. If  I would have used a word like this in a composition at school
I´m sure the teacher would have given a 5.
(1=very good, 6=nothing). Nobody needs this word, nobody uses it - only an
authority can do.
Let us say "frequency plan", that will do.
But nevertheless: Only the title is bad, but the content is good for the
German hams.
73   Walter DJ2LF

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: DL4YHF@aol.com <DL4YHF@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Samstag, 16. Oktober 2004 23:01
Betreff: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany


>Hi Dave and group,
>
>The document is at
>
>http://www.darc.de/aktuell/voinfo/vor151004.html
>
>Well, is it already in force ? The passage ...
>
>> [..] Die neuen im wesentlichen für die Funkamateure
>> vorteilhaften Bestimmungen sollen noch in die neue
>> Amateurfunkverordnung, insbesondere die Anlage 1,
>> eingearbeitet werden. [..]
>
>Crude translation:
>
>(the new, mostly positive regulations for radio amateurs shall be
implemented in the new ham radio regulation, especially appendix 1, [..] )
>
>Well, sounds a bit like "yet to come", but read on..
>
>> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung auf der
>> Grundlage des TKG ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten.
>> Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie
>> beispielsweise [...]
>> Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz (LW)
>
>Sounds better, like the good news about LF are in force already. My attempt
to translate the above, keeping the 40-letter word in its entire uncensored
prettiness :
>
>The frequency-range-assignment-plan-regulation based on the
telecommunication law has come into power on October 7th, 2004. I
>It contains improvements for radio amateurs, for example [...] 1 W ERP in
the range 135.7 to 137.8 kHz.
>
>The "most significant hyhen" is usually the one before the last word, here
between plan and regulation. Read the thing from left to right - it's
primarily a "regulation". What it regulates is a "plan", the plan is the
assignment of a range of frequencies.
>Phew - can simple things be put in such complicated word in other languages
too ? Someone please put me right if this is totally wrong (blame it on the
red wine) - Walter DJ2LF still on the reflector ?
>
>Best regards,
>Wolf DL4YHF.
>
>


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Hi Mike strange about the web site. I dont know how much you pay but as part
of my BT-Yahoo  "Anytime"  tarriff (£15.99 a month) I get 2Gbytes of mail
space and 50 MB of web space, and a free spam/virus trap, (which seems to
work quite well). I dont get any extra perks cos I'm an ex-employee these
days, so that must be the normal allowance. I dont know what they offer to
ADSL customers. The anytime is limited to 150hours a month with a carry-over
of 20 unused hours, I find that is quite good for me, but with multiple
access you may need more. Ah you do need a BT line to to take that....so
maybe not so useful.

The cheap hosters seem to pepper the downloads with pop-ups and ads, so you
may not find that so popular with your customers.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia@btinternet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 17 October 2004 13:22
Subject: LF: Moved my web site


> Since the company hosting my website (www.lf.thersgb.net)
> decided to delete the site without informing me, I have had
> to move it (this is why it is essential to have a local copy!).
> Note, although this host was originally associated with the
> RSGB, it is not any more.
>
> The temporary location is:
> http://www.apersonalguide/lf/
>
> Anyone linking to my old site should alter the link now. Sorry
> for any inconvenience.
>
> I have a new page featuring the new RSGB book about
> 136kHz:
> http://www.apersonalguide/lf/lftoday/
>
> I am looking for a cheap and reliable web host offering
> perhaps 50Mb of storage. Any suggestions, please, to my
> direct e-mail (mike.dennison@ntlworld.com), not via this
> reflector.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ===========
>
>



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Would you believe that was only using 500w??? Excellent signals last
night from all over NA with reports of audible signals at 1000 miles.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI</pre>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Steve McDonald wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">A nice signal here all night until fade out at 1310Z. This must be past your
sunrise I would think?

Steve / VE7SL / Mayne Island, BC
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Would you believe that was only using 500w??? Excellent signals last
night from all over NA with reports of audible signals at 1000 miles.<br>
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Mike
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Steve McDonald wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">A nice signal here all night until fade out at 1310Z. This must be past your
sunrise I would think?

Steve / VE7SL / Mayne Island, BC
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José,

great signal tonight here in Germany. See attachement.

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Hi Hartmut and all:

Thanks for this new report, I think it?s the capture with my strongest
signals in Germany so far.
I see other signals around 137700, but I can?t identify them.

73 de José, EA1PX



----- Original Message ----- 
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> José,
>
> great signal tonight here in Germany. See attachement.
>
> Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> Locator: JO52ho




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Hi Jose there is a 30sec DFCW signal a few Hz HF of your frequency. You have
a nice signal here despite my strong local noise....definitely "O" I have
just sent a capture to Brian who was interested in how it compared with his
capture in Porto. Nice work for a particularly difficult location.

regards
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "José Manuel" <jpradoes@telefonica.net>
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> Hi Hartmut and all:
>
> Thanks for this new report, I think it?s the capture with my strongest
> signals in Germany so far.
> I see other signals around 137700, but I can?t identify them.
>
> 73 de José, EA1PX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hartmut Wolff" <wolff.h@t-online.de>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:47 PM
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>
>
> > José,
> >
> > great signal tonight here in Germany. See attachement.
> >
> > Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> > Locator: JO52ho
>
>
>



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José,

I noticed a very good signal from you at the same time on G3YXM's screen
grabber.

John Andrews, W1TAG




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From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= <jpradoes@telefonica.net>
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Hi Alan:

Thanks for report. The DFCW 30 sec. signal is from Markus, DF6NM, but I saw
an unidentified signal on 137700.
The curious thing is that, in the Dave?s grabber, my signal was very
stronger than the Markus one.

 73 de José, EA1PX




> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Melia" <Alan.Melia@btinternet.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:44 AM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: EA1PX
>
>
> > Hi Jose there is a 30sec DFCW signal a few Hz HF of your frequency. You
> have
> > a nice signal here despite my strong local noise....definitely "O" I
have
> > just sent a capture to Brian who was interested in how it compared with
> his
> > capture in Porto. Nice work for a particularly difficult location.
> >
> > regards
> > Alan G3NYK
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "José Manuel" <jpradoes@telefonica.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: 17 October 2004 23:20
> > Subject: LF: Re: EA1PX
> >
> >
> > > Hi Hartmut and all:
> > >
> > > Thanks for this new report, I think it?s the capture with my strongest
> > > signals in Germany so far.
> > > I see other signals around 137700, but I can?t identify them.
> > >
> > > 73 de José, EA1PX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hartmut Wolff" <wolff.h@t-online.de>
> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:47 PM
> > > Subject: LF: EA1PX
> > >
> > >
> > > > José,
> > > >
> > > > great signal tonight here in Germany. See attachement.
> > > >
> > > > Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> > > > Locator: JO52ho
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>



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John, I saw the Dave?s grabber also, but I?d like that such a  capture could
be made on your screen, hi.

73 de José, EA1PX



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José,

I noticed a very good signal from you at the same time on G3YXM's screen
grabber.

John Andrews, W1TAG






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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Dear José and Alan,<BR>
<BR>
EA1PX came in ufb "O" (~ 0.5 µV/m) here around 21:30, and became slightly weaker during later calls. I was in QSO with RA3YO (qrss20/dfcw30 on 137703.4), who was mostly "M" here. Between 23:00 and 23:15, EA1PX was called by SM6BHZ in qrss10 on 137700.0.<BR>
<BR>
VO1NA had an unusually strong appearance after 22:00, "O" ~ 0.2 µV/m.<BR>
<BR>
Good luck, 73<BR>
<BR>
de Markus, DF6NM<BR>
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"the page cannot be displayed" is all I get in Florida at either address

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Quoting Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>:

> Since the > The temporary location is:
> http://www.apersonalguide/lf/
> 
> Anyone > I have a new page featuring the new RSGB book about 
> 136kHz:
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> 
> I am looking> 
> Mike, G3XDV
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Mike,

We can see your home page at
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/lftoday/ ,
but most of the links are bad.

The problem is not obvious from your own machine, because they
point to e.g. My Documents\Websites\LF\lf.htm , but if you
look at the status bar when you mouse over them, you'll see
the trouble.

73,

Stewart KK7KA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "captbrian" <captbrian@ukonline.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
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> "the page cannot be displayed" is all I get in Florida at either address
> 
> Bryan G3GVB
> 
> Quoting Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>:
> 
>> Since the > The temporary location is:
>> http://www.apersonalguide/lf/
>> 
>> Anyone > I have a new page featuring the new RSGB book about 
>> 136kHz:
>> http://www.apersonalguide/lf/lftoday/
>> 
>> I am looking> 
>> Mike, G3XDV
>> ===========
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Good signal yesterday from I5TGC in DFCW Mode at 11:00 Local.

>
> 73 Marc
> F5MAF
> JN03PP
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>



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F5MAF FREE wrote:

> Good signal  saturday morning from VO1NA. The QRSS30 signal was 
> visible at
> 07:30 UTC.
>
> Marc F5MAF
> JN03PP
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>



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During a double QSO with I5TGC and F6BWO in DFCW/QRSS on Sunday 17th 
Oct, starting at 1002 UTC  HA6PC was apperently calling me in QRSS. 
Between the signs from Jeff and Cesare the signal was about O at the 
beginning , then decreasing to invisibility by strong QSB. Sorry, we 
have to wait for another chance - please call again, HA would be country 
no.18 for me on LF!

73 es cul
Tom, DK1IS
JN59WK
www.qrz.com



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On 18 Oct 2004 at 1:48, Stewart Nelson wrote:

> We can see your home page at
> http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/lftoday/ ,
> but most of the links are bad.

Stewart,

Thanks. I am normally more careful than that. It just shows 
that you shouldn't do jobs in a hurry! Now fixed.

Mike
====



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Dave Pick wrote:

>> A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
>>  
>
This one would score even more :   :-)
Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommission

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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... and if you further add  "-svorsitzender" it would be even loger and 
define the chairman of that worthy commission  ;-)

73
Tom, DK1IS

Alberto di Bene schrieb:

> Dave Pick wrote:
>
>>> A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
>>>  
>>
>>
> This one would score even more :   :-)
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommission 
>
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
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Hi all at LF,

A couple of weekends ago I visited the G-QRP Club Annual Mini Convention at
Rochdale. On one of the junk stands I was rooting on I came accross a Maplin
kit (or part of) for a Rugby Rx PCB No 1 & No 2, it cost me the princely sum
of 20 pence. It consists of one board with a ferrite rod antenna, IC
(TL018CN), trimmer etc with 4 solder pinouts & one with 2 IC's (LM567CN &
TC4093BP), an LED, 9v regulator & preset control etc with 15 solder pinouts
(several being GND. Does anyone know anything about this kit ? as I can't
find any info for it at tghe Maplin web site or on the internet.

Regards

Gary - G4WGT

Web: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor


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Well, I lied in the title to grab your attention, but for those 
that don't know, the RSGB HF Convention next weekend 
includes much for those interested in 136kHz.

This includes a lecture on 136kHz propagation by Alan, 
G3NYK; a Getting Started talk by me and an update on the 
MB7LF remote receiver project.

Day tickets are apparently still available.

What I don't know is whether there is an LF station being 
set up (Crawley club?).

The venue is close the Gatwick Airport, not far from the 
M25.

Full details from:
http://www.rsgb-hfc.org.uk/

Hope to see you there.

Mike, G3XDV
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<DIV>In a message dated 18/10/2004 12:05:45 GMT Standard Time, 
mike.dennison@ntlworld.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT 
  style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Well, I 
  lied in the title to grab your attention, but for those <BR>that don't know, 
  the RSGB HF Convention next weekend <BR>includes much for those interested in 
  136kHz.<BR><BR>This includes a lecture on 136kHz propagation by Alan, 
  <BR>G3NYK; a Getting Started talk by me and an update on the <BR>MB7LF remote 
  receiver project.<BR><BR>Day tickets are apparently still 
  available.<BR><BR>What I don't know is whether there is an LF station being 
  <BR>set up (Crawley club?).<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Mike / group.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yes, there will be an LF demo station.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The equipment is being provided by the Crawley club - Including a " 100 
foot tower" and a Decca transmitter&nbsp; 1kW (ish) transmitter.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As Derek G3GRO and the chaps are also setting up the HF station and 
performing other duties around the convention, I think I'm listed somewhere as 
LF station operator.</DIV>
<DIV>Setting up will be Friday afternoon with operation through the 
weekend.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I would be particually interested arranging a period of attended operation 
late Saturday evening, after the Gala dinner&nbsp;/ Sunday morning to see if we 
can turn a few of these transatlantic reception reports into a QSO.&nbsp; 
-&nbsp;ERP will be at the UK limit.&nbsp;&nbsp; VO1NA - ??</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>For anyone attending the HF Convention, I will be bringing assembled and 
tested 136kHz&nbsp;pre-amps&nbsp; and 3C90 toroids in 25,&nbsp; 42&nbsp; and the 
large 58mm sizes.&nbsp; I also have T-157 and T200 iron dust toroids in the -2 
material.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps we can consider this an 'activity weekend'?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>more details later</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Vy 73</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>David&nbsp;&nbsp; G0MRF</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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Dear Group,

Thank-you to all who have been monitoring my signals.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 G0MRF@aol.com wrote:

>
> I would be particually interested arranging a period of attended operation
> late Saturday evening, after the Gala dinner / Sunday morning to see if we  can
> turn a few of these transatlantic reception reports into a QSO.   - ERP will
> be at the UK limit.   VO1NA - ??
>

I will be more than happy to do whatever I can to assist from this
side of the pond.

73
Joe


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Dear all, 

I guess I have to place an excuse for all germans: We are not using such long expressions in our daily life or normal literature - but sri, our administrations have a strong tendency to use them!

And of course those guys of DARC in contact with administrations have to align to those word forming practices.

Normal german grammar even contains a recommendation that, if more than four substantives are combined to a new single word, a dash should be inserted after the first two substantives, to gain better visibility of the content of the long word (but there are even five basic substantives involved here):

Frequenzbereichs-Zuweisungsplan-Verordnung

I think we all should be glad that in the historical voting in the young USA whether english or german should be chosen as the common language, english had won. 

OK?

73 Ha-Jo, Brandt

"Alberto di Bene" <dibene@usa.net> schrieb:
> Dave Pick wrote:
> 
> >> A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
> >>  
> >
> This one would score even more :   :-)
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommission
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Does somone else have extended Scabble rules....I didn't know you could do a
word-wrap...I have been taking notes and I am all set to beat the world
record !!
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alberto di Bene" <dibene@usa.net>
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Sent: 18 October 2004 16:03
Subject: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany


> Rik Strobbe wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom and Alberto,
> >
> > what about
> >
Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsvero
rdnungskommissionsvorsitzenderstellvertreter
> >
> >
> > That would be the deputy of the chairman
> >
> > 73, Rik
>
>
> Well Rik,
>
>   I suppose we can go on ad libitum, adding words and words at the
> end... but, at least with the font I am using in my mail
> agent (Mozilla Thunderbird), that word is dangerously near to the end of
> the row  :-)     And I would then have problems
> in reading it if it were split in two rows...  :-! :-!
>
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>
>
>



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Hi Gary, I think I think that Maplin kit was covered in one of their old
magazines....I will have a look through the few I have. I wondered at first
whether it was a version of the the old R&EW project (CirKit) which was
called the Rubicron. That was a thing with two pcbs about Euro sized I
think. I definitely have all the gen on that as I have all the old mags in
archive. I also keep some Maplin cats as a source of data so there may be
something in them.....all you want then is a way of getting the time data to
your PC to reset the clock regularly. I think the first IC fell foul of
finger trouble I suspect it is a TL081CN which is an op-amp. that should be
enough to identify the diagram (the 567 is a tone decoder PLL used for
demod) It looks like the decoding was done in the PC where as the Rubicron
had a microcontroller chip on the 2nd pcb.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia(at)btinternet.com


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> Hi all at LF,
>
> A couple of weekends ago I visited the G-QRP Club Annual Mini Convention
at
> Rochdale. On one of the junk stands I was rooting on I came accross a
Maplin
> kit (or part of) for a Rugby Rx PCB No 1 & No 2, it cost me the princely
sum
> of 20 pence. It consists of one board with a ferrite rod antenna, IC
> (TL018CN), trimmer etc with 4 solder pinouts & one with 2 IC's (LM567CN &
> TC4093BP), an LED, 9v regulator & preset control etc with 15 solder
pinouts
> (several being GND. Does anyone know anything about this kit ? as I can't
> find any info for it at tghe Maplin web site or on the internet.
>
> Regards
>
> Gary - G4WGT
>
> Web: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor
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Hi Rik,

nice - but I´m afraid you have to extend the memory in the QRS-software 
for using it as a codeword during the next 10 candlelight tests ... ;-)

73, Tom

Rik Strobbe schrieb:

> Hi Tom and Alberto,
>
> what about
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommissionsvorsitzenderstellvertreter 
>
>
> That would be the deputy of the chairman
>
> 73, Rik
>



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Hi Tom and Alberto,

what about
Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommissionsvorsitzenderstellvertreter

That would be the deputy of the chairman

73, Rik


At 12:57 18/10/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>... and if you further add  "-svorsitzender" it would be even loger and 
>define the chairman of that worthy commission  ;-)
>
>73
>Tom, DK1IS
>
>Alberto di Bene schrieb:
>
>>Dave Pick wrote:
>>
>>>>A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>This one would score even more :   :-)
>>Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommission 
>>
>>
>>73  Alberto  I2PHD
>>
>>
>>
>


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Rik Strobbe wrote:

> Hi Tom and Alberto,
>
> what about
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsverordnungskommissionsvorsitzenderstellvertreter 
>
>
> That would be the deputy of the chairman
>
> 73, Rik


Well Rik,

  I suppose we can go on ad libitum, adding words and words at the 
end... but, at least with the font I am using in my mail
agent (Mozilla Thunderbird), that word is dangerously near to the end of 
the row  :-)     And I would then have problems
in reading it if it were split in two rows...  :-! :-!

73  Alberto  I2PHD




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On Monday 18 October 2004 16:45, Rik Strobbe wrote:
> Hi Tom and Alberto,
>
> what about
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuc
>hungsverordnungskommissionsvorsitzenderstellvertreter
>

:-o

My mail reader don't wrap and can't display the end of this word. Can 
you spell it, please? ;-)

73 Claudio, ik2pii

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Hi Alan & Brian,

I will appreciate any information, it may be interesting.

Yes finger trouble crept in.

Regards

Gary - G4WGT

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-----Original Message-----
Subject: LF: Re: Maplin kit


 I think the first IC fell foul of
finger trouble I suspect it is a TL081CN which is an op-amp.

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Dear Hajo and All,
         people continue the story about this so-called historical voting:
The English language won by a one-vote majority. Balsam for the German soul.
But sorry, the historical truth is - this voting for an all-american
language never took place. Most regions spoke English from the beginnung,
few spoke German.
         Please read:
Walter Krämer / Götz Trenkler: Lexikon der populären Irrtümer, Eichborn
Verlag, Seite 68
Nevertheless: I like 1W ERP
73 Walter DJ2LF


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 15:20
Betreff: Re: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany


>Dear all,
>
>I guess I have to place an excuse for all germans: We are not using such
long expressions in our daily life or normal literature - but sri, our
administrations have a strong tendency to use them!
>
>And of course those guys of DARC in contact with administrations have to
align to those word forming practices.
>
>Normal german grammar even contains a recommendation that, if more than
four substantives are combined to a new single word, a dash should be
inserted after the first two substantives, to gain better visibility of the
content of the long word (but there are even five basic substantives
involved here):
>
>Frequenzbereichs-Zuweisungsplan-Verordnung
>
>I think we all should be glad that in the historical voting in the young
USA whether english or german should be chosen as the common language,
english had won.
>
>OK?
>
>73 Ha-Jo, Brandt
>
>"Alberto di Bene" <dibene@usa.net> schrieb:
>> Dave Pick wrote:
>>
>> >> A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
>> >>
>> >
>> This one would score even more :   :-)
>>
Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsvero
rdnungskommission
>>
>> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



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Again first signs from VO1NA about 20:20 UTC tonight.
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Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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Dear Walter,

thank You for this information, it sounds reasonable.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

"Walter Staubach" <walter.staubach@fen-net.de> schrieb:
> Dear Hajo and All,
>          people continue the story about this so-called historical voting:
> The English language won by a one-vote majority. Balsam for the German soul.
> But sorry, the historical truth is - this voting for an all-american
> language never took place. Most regions spoke English from the beginnung,
> few spoke German.
>          Please read:
> Walter Krämer / Götz Trenkler: Lexikon der populären Irrtümer, Eichborn
> Verlag, Seite 68
> Nevertheless: I like 1W ERP
> 73 Walter DJ2LF
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Hans-Joachim Brandt <hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de>
> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Datum: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 15:20
> Betreff: Re: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany
> 
> 
> >Dear all,
> >
> >I guess I have to place an excuse for all germans: We are not using such
> long expressions in our daily life or normal literature - but sri, our
> administrations have a strong tendency to use them!
> >
> >And of course those guys of DARC in contact with administrations have to
> align to those word forming practices.
> >
> >Normal german grammar even contains a recommendation that, if more than
> four substantives are combined to a new single word, a dash should be
> inserted after the first two substantives, to gain better visibility of the
> content of the long word (but there are even five basic substantives
> involved here):
> >
> >Frequenzbereichs-Zuweisungsplan-Verordnung
> >
> >I think we all should be glad that in the historical voting in the young
> USA whether english or german should be chosen as the common language,
> english had won.
> >
> >OK?
> >
> >73 Ha-Jo, Brandt
> >
> >"Alberto di Bene" <dibene@usa.net> schrieb:
> >> Dave Pick wrote:
> >>
> >> >> A 40 letter word?! How much would that score in Scrabble? ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> This one would score even more :   :-)
> >>
> Frequenznormaltemperaturverschiebungsbereichszuweisungsplanuntersuchungsvero
> rdnungskommission
> >>
> >> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 




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    Hello Marc
    Thanks you for report, here was wet weather and antenna current a bit
slower than usual. Best 73  Cesare

Cesare Tagliabue   I 5 TGC
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-----Messaggio Originale-----
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Data invio: lunedì 18 ottobre 2004 9.22
Oggetto: LF: I5TGC


> Good signal yesterday from I5TGC in DFCW Mode at 11:00 Local.
>
> >
> > 73 Marc
> > F5MAF
> > JN03PP
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial id="role_document"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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who was warming up the LF gear prior to the convention at the weekend &#8211;
he said that they hoped to be QRV from Friday evening from the convention site.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I will be attending myself &#8211; I would
certainly be interested in having a go on Saturday night after the dinner. I
look forward to meeting up with other denizens of the LF spectrum at the
weekend!</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers, Jim Moritz</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>What I
don't know is whether there is an LF station being <br>
set up (</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Crawley</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> club?).</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hello
Mike / group.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Yes,
there will be an LF demo station.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The
equipment is being provided by the Crawley club - Including a &quot; 100 foot
tower&quot; and a Decca transmitter&nbsp; 1kW (ish) transmitter.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>As
Derek G3GRO and the chaps are also setting up the HF station and performing
other duties around the convention, I think I'm listed somewhere as LF station
operator.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Setting
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
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be particually interested arranging a period of attended operation late
Saturday evening, after the Gala dinner&nbsp;/ Sunday morning to see if we can
turn a few of these transatlantic reception reports into a QSO.&nbsp;
-&nbsp;ERP will be at the UK limit.&nbsp;&nbsp; VO1NA - ??</span></font></p>

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Hartmut and group,

Thank-you for the reports.  In case you're wondering what happened
last night, I unplugged the keyer avoid interference to a computer
and forgot about it.  The TX will be on again tonight at 2000 UTC.

73 Joe

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Hartmut Wolff wrote:

> Again first signs from VO1NA about 20:20 UTC tonight.
> As you can see in the attachement taken 20:32 UTC.
>
>
> Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To The LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can confirm the information posted by Jim, M0BMU 
and David, G0MRF regarding the&nbsp;LF station planned to be set up at the RSGB 
HFC2004 Conference to be held this coming weekend in Crawley West Sussex. We 
hope to be up and running on the 136Khz band some time in the early 
evening&nbsp; of Friday 22nd October until at least&nbsp; early afternoon of 
Sunday 24th Oct dependent on activity.&nbsp;We also hope to do some overnight 
work depending of course on operator availability.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We intend to put on a reasonably serious station 
running 1Kw into an off-set "T" antenna with two parallel top loading wires 
between spreaders each about&nbsp;40m&nbsp;long sloping up from about 15m AGL at 
one end to around 30m at the&nbsp;other end being supporting by a mobile 
lattice&nbsp;tower.&nbsp;This will&nbsp;provide&nbsp;a vertical radiator section 
of approximately 20m. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The&nbsp;TCVR will be a FT1000MP driving a modified 
ex-Decca TX&nbsp; with the option to take received signals either from&nbsp;the 
transmit antenna or&nbsp;from the remote 136Khz receiver of&nbsp;MB7LF, 
the&nbsp;linear translator&nbsp;station&nbsp;relaying signals from 136Khz on 
2m&nbsp;and located on a quiet site only a few km away at the local Crawley Club 
HQ in an area of forest. This will provide some insurance against any possible 
local high level noise QRM originating from the Hotel or from local 415V 
agricultural power lines running only 60m or so away in the field behind the 
hotel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I held back posting this info until now because we 
do not yet have the info from the RSGB on the allocated special event callsign 
for the conference but we believe that it will be MB4HFC or something similar. I 
will update the callsign info via the reflector as soon as it is 
confirmed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We look forward to generating plenty of 136Khz 
activity - mainly hand keyed CW&nbsp;but also of course&nbsp;QRSS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73,&nbsp; de&nbsp; Derek,&nbsp; G3GRO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk href="mailto:j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk">james 
  moritz</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
  href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:40 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: RE: RSGB LF Convention / 
  demo station.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=Section1>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear LF 
  Group,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I had a QSO last 
  night with Derek, G3GRO, who was warming up the LF gear prior to the 
  convention at the weekend – he said that they hoped to be QRV from Friday 
  evening from the convention site.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will be attending 
  myself – I would certainly be interested in having a go on Saturday night 
  after the dinner. I look forward to meeting up with other denizens of the LF 
  spectrum at the weekend!</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers, Jim 
  Moritz</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">73 de 
  M0BMU</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
    size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What 
    I don't know is whether there is an LF station being <BR>set up 
    (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Crawley</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
    face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 
    club?).</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello 
  Mike / group.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, 
  there will be an LF demo station.&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 
  equipment is being provided by the Crawley club - Including a " 100 foot 
  tower" and a Decca transmitter&nbsp; 1kW (ish) 
  transmitter.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As 
  Derek G3GRO and the chaps are also setting up the HF station and performing 
  other duties around the convention, I think I'm listed somewhere as LF station 
  operator.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Setting 
  up will be Friday afternoon with operation through the 
  weekend.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would 
  be particually interested arranging a period of attended operation late 
  Saturday evening, after the Gala dinner&nbsp;/ Sunday morning to see if we can 
  turn a few of these transatlantic reception reports into a QSO.&nbsp; 
  -&nbsp;ERP will be at the UK limit.&nbsp;&nbsp; VO1NA - 
  ??</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear LF'ers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can now confirm that the callsign under which the 
RSGB Convention LF station will be operating over the weekend is actually 
MB2HFC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any LF enthusiasts attending the conference and who 
wishes to have a spell of operating will of course be very welcome. Just contact 
me on the day&nbsp;or contact David, G0MRF&nbsp;or just turn up at the LF 
station&nbsp;and we will put you on the list.&nbsp;The station will be located 
in the "Flight Deck" room in the Hotel which is the same room as the RSGB book 
counter etc. will be located.</FONT></DIV>
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> I got my copy of "LF Today" in the mail today.
> A nice addition to my slowly expanding longwave library!

Johan,

Thanks for the comment.

> However, there is an error on page 109. The QRSS signal at the
> bottom of the screen capture is not mine, I have never been actively
> involved in Atlantic crossing on LF. The lower trace reads "J 
> SM6P..." so it is probably Christer, SM6PXJ, who was very active at
> that time.

Oops. Sorry, I obviously didn't spend enough time reading 
the Morse on the screen shot. I have published a correction 
on my web site at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/lftoday/update.htm

73 de Mike
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WD2XDW will be going into a mark/space mode with 120 sec elements for the 
next day or two starting from 0100Z appx Friday if I can get the computer to 
behave.

The aim is to help me/others get some data on some of the odd 
fade/enhancement patterns we are seeing over here this past week over a few 
thousand mile path during daylight and nightime paths. On Argo it wil look 
akin to the ZL6QH signals test signals

_  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _
  _   _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _

(not too sure if that will come out via Hotmail!)

Details


Station operating +24 hours -

137.77557ish  Khz High and  137.77502 low; low freq is GPS disciplined freq 
source, 120 sec carrier elements - spacing is wide to avoid Loran lines. 
Timed Spacing (tx off) between elements will be small probably less than 20 
secs. This will keep the radio room warm - occaional CW id WD2XDW at 9 wpm.

Power circa 1Kw tpo,  with +-34 amps of aerial current into the loop - plane 
ene/wsw

thanks - and if this causes a QRM problem please  let me know by email - I 
dont bite much.

Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq
Bartlesville OK
Part 5 station status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Dear Laurence,<BR>
<BR>
have been watching 137774...782 about every other night, but the only EE (extra-European) I have seen down here is Joe, with at least a few traces each night. There is a Russian Loran line on 137775.00 Hz (GRI 8000, multiples of 6.25 Hz) which can be strong here and serves as an easy-to-remember calibration landmark - you might consider moving up your LF by another 20 mHz or so.<BR>
<BR>
All the best of luck<BR>
Markus, DF6NM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
In einer eMail vom 21.10.2004 22:12:46 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com: <BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">137.77557ish&nbsp; Khz High and&nbsp; 137.77502 low; low freq is GPS disciplined freq <BR>
source</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Dear all

There is a new grabber on-line from Hungary. I received this info tonight
and I tried it and it copied me.

73

Dave G3YXM
-------------------------

Yesterday we installed the Receiver at the Karancs Hill JN98VE the QTH of
the HG6N Clubstation.
The RX buid by HA6PC Gyuri, and the antenna is the shorter North-West LW
(400m).
The bandwith abt 100Hz.     There are not WEB page yet, it is absolutely
provisoric installation now by HA6ND Gyuri, and me.
It will be work always, but I hope will be better RX, more
frequencies...etc.
 
If you are interest the QTH, look at an www.dx.hu/hg6n website.
I will send you some photos also, but I am forgot to change the batteries in
my camera..hi
 
The screenshoot is looks at http://www.starjan.hu/~ha6px/LF/hg6n.jpg    
Refresh it an all minute.
 
 
73 & DX ...Csaba HA6PX




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Typo, sorry -

Freqs should read 137.77520 low and 137.77557 high - coding is now CQ 
repeated and on line.


Laurence
(thanks Marcus)



>From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: lowfer@lwca.org
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@lwca.org
>CC: vernall@xtra.co.nz
>Subject: [LW] xdw mode change -
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:10:29 -0800
>
>WD2XDW will be going into a mark/space mode with 120 sec elements for the 
>next day or two starting from 0100Z appx Friday if I can get the computer 
>to behave.
>
>The aim is to help me/others get some data on some of the odd 
>fade/enhancement patterns we are seeing over here this past week over a few 
>thousand mile path during daylight and nightime paths. On Argo it wil look 
>akin to the ZL6QH signals test signals
>
>_  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _
>  _   _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _
>
>(not too sure if that will come out via Hotmail!)
>
>Details
>
>
>Station operating +24 hours -
>
>137.77557ish  Khz High and  137.77502 low; low freq is GPS disciplined freq 
>source, 120 sec carrier elements - spacing is wide to avoid Loran lines. 
>Timed Spacing (tx off) between elements will be small probably less than 20 
>secs. This will keep the radio room warm - occaional CW id WD2XDW at 9 wpm.
>
>Power circa 1Kw tpo,  with +-34 amps of aerial current into the loop - 
>plane ene/wsw
>
>thanks - and if this causes a QRM problem please  let me know by email - I 
>dont bite much.
>
>Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq
>Bartlesville OK
>Part 5 station status http://myweb.cableone.net/flow
>
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Hi all conditions to me look fair tonight, I switched on at 2200z and almost
immediately picked up a good strong QRSS30 signal from Joe VO1NA 137.777.

I guess the minor geomag. storm hasn't had time to affect things yet.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia@btinternet.com




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Good peak level from VO1NA 21:00-06:30 UTC but there was a lot of deep
fading on the signal last night. Full copy of the callsign only
21:00-21:30, 03:00-04:30 and 06:00-0630 UTC. Also some 5wpm "blur was
visible.

Traces from XES captured 03:55-04:15 UTC.

Nothing else copied

Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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<DIV>In a message dated 21/10/2004 22:27:41 GMT Standard Time, 
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<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT 
  style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi all 
  conditions to me look fair tonight, I switched on at 2200z and 
  almost<BR>immediately picked up a good strong QRSS30 signal from Joe VO1NA 
  137.777.<BR><BR>I guess the minor geomag. storm hasn't had time to affect 
  things yet.<BR><BR>Cheers de Alan G3NYK<BR><A 
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<DIV>Hope your Rabbit's Paw will look favourably on Saturday night for the HFC 
sked with Joe from 22.30UTC.</DIV>
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<DIV>Joe will TX on 137.777</DIV>
<DIV>we will be on 135.992</DIV>
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<DIV>Hope others will call us over the weekend. Always nice to show a QSO in 
progress and to turn the key over to someone who has never seen 136kHz in action 
before.</DIV>
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Hi Alan,

Thanks for the report and the encouraging forecast.  I'm
looking forward to trying the QSO tomorrow.

Jack Belrose has published an article in QST on the "L" aerial
tuner, a favourite of mine.  I will submit our article this evening.

73
Joe



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Monitored for VO1NA last night 21/22 Oct. 

Best signals were:
2100 UTC 'O'
2300 UTC 'O', good signal but the first three dots were 
missing!
0300 UTC 'M'
0400 UTC 'O' best signal seen for some time
0500 UTC 'O'
0600 UTC 'O' weak but peak seen at UK dawn
0700 UTC 'M' fading to nil

Screen captures of some of these can be seen on my web 
site:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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G3YXM wrote:
> There is a new grabber on-line from Hungary. I received this info
> tonight and I tried it and it copied me.

Tried this today (1300 UTC) but it could not see my QRSS3 
or QRSS10. It is a bit confusing as it appears to be 5 
minutes wide but updates every 15 minutes, so a 10 min 
slot is not recorded.

Will try again after dark.

Mike, G3XDV
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Brian sent me a nice clip of XDW's 120 sec elements ""CQ" into CT1 this 
morning " You first came in around 23:30utc on 21 for a short period but had 
faded out by 24:00.  Your signal reappeared around 05:30 with best capture 
at 07:30  to fade out again about 09:00".

The distance is appx 7237Kms bearing 56 degT from OK - which is in the main 
lobe region of the loop here, Northern Eu is a dB or so down..

Its been a good couple of days with traces seen at Mike Zl4ol's qth on the 
South Island at 13,000Kms. Brian also reports sigs from Joe but hes seen 
stronger.

The weather in Oklahoma (!) is due to get real bad here with strong storms 
due - Ill make no apologies for turning off the tx and shorting the loop 
out..

Ill shove the clip on my web site later - thanks Brian and others for the 
reports. Hope the rsgb station does well over the weekend -

Daytime skywave/ground data collection from a number of grabbers over 700 
mile paths continue.

Laurence
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Hi David, there were good signals later in the night, but using my wire, I
had a lot of rain static, which washed out some of these sessions. Both
Hartmutt and myself have found that some of the best signals are appearing
at about 2200z

There is an increase in Solar activity, but hopefully the effects of these
will not be too bad before the beginning of next week. The fading on the
W3EEE plot is very rapid, but should lengthen over the next couple of days.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia(at)btinternet.com




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Laurence,

> Brian sent me a nice clip of XDW's 120 sec elements ""CQ" into CT1 this morning<

Congratulations! That's quite a haul, and includes a substantial over-land path at your end. Wow!

Brian's on-line capture screens have been pretty featureless this fall, as opposed to April, when they showed a lot more detail.  Joe's signals were much better there in the spring. Maybe Brian has fixed something since earlier in the week. Hope so!

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Dear Laurence, LF Group,

I picked up a faint but visible trace of your mark/space signal between
about 0600 and 0630 utc this morning - see attachment. This was with
settings for QRSS30, to copy VO1NA who was also quite good at this time.Some
traces of XES were also probably seen, but too weak to be sure.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hope you have a nice meeting. I received you her at 
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<DIV>I just wonder if we have a musical talent out there who might set this word 
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Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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<P>Hi Lawrence.</P>
<P>I recieved th attached at about 07:30&nbsp;on your frequencies, is this you or if not who ?</P>
<P>Regards Laurie.&nbsp;</P><BR><BR><hr size="1">Whatever you <a href="http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/" target="_blank">Wanadoo</a><br><br>This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more <a href="http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm" target="_blank">here</a>
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Good TA conditions here in Germany last night.

VO1NA: Copied 2100-2130z in QRSS30. Then only faint traces until
0100z. 0100-0640z continious beaconing in QRSS10 on a excellent signal
level. 0640z rapid fade out.

WD2XDW: Traces between 0300-0710z. Best signal about 0510-0540z

WD2XES: Traces 2330-0640z. Best signal between 0230-0400z and about
0600z.


Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
Locator: JO52HO



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A good nite all around, apart from my pc locking up later in the night - I 
then tranmitted a single carrier for a while (!) - At least I know my new 
lpf take take it...

Reports from Wolff, Laurie g3aqc and via Brians ct1drps grabber last nite, 
and good signal reports into VE and Washington state. Still not "very good" 
conditions but delighted to get this loop into N/C Europe which is about 
1-2dB down on the main lobe (probably). Best distance was appx 4836 
miles/7823 Kms to Wolff last night.

Thanks for looking
LAurence KL1X/5
em26aq
http://myweb.cableone.net/flow

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>Captured the attachement 0548z. Great signal Laurence!
>
>
>Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
>Locator: JO52HO
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Laurie,

That is definitely XDW. Compare the shot at:
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Had a good day at the RSGB HF Convention yesterday. 
The three LF lectures and the demonstration station may 
have persuaded a few people to try 136kHz - there was 
certainly some interest.

I took a few pictures which are at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/pictures/hfconv04.htm

Mike, G3XDV
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Nice to hear plenty of activity on 136 this week end. In a couple of
hours total of casual listening heard DF6NM, DJ8WX, DK7SU, F6BWO,
PA0KDM, PA0BWL, G3GRO and worked MB2HFC, G3XDV.

My 1100 ft long wire is now only 400 ft so a consequent probable
reduction in signal strength.

73, Tom G3OLB


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Mike Dennison said:

> Had a good day at the RSGB HF Convention yesterday.
> The three LF lectures and the demonstration station may
> have persuaded a few people to try 136kHz - there was
> certainly some interest.
>
> I took a few pictures which are at:
> http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/pictures/hfconv04.htm

Thanks for the pictures Mike. I would liked to have joined you all but only
got back from EA6 on Saturday.

Heard MB2HFC coming through very strong 599 on Sunday morning. Put up the
antenna and fired up the rig. Unfortunately I didn't change all the
connections necessary to change the antenna over from 160/80m to 136kHz and
caused some damage to the wiring of the power combiner on the Decca. Finally
got it fixed by 1330UTC. No sigs heard so put out a couple of CQs and got a
reply at 1350 from MB2HFC, who couldn't stay on because the station was
being dismantled!

Congratulations to Laurence for his TA results!

Peter, G3LDO



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Dear Laurence and LF group,<BR>
<BR>
very pleased to find traces of XDW in Nuernberg, after sunrise between 6:30 and 7:00. Though nowhere near Hartmut Wolff's amazing receive quality, the two DFCW frequencies can be clearly made out in the SpecLab screenshot.<BR>
<BR>
VO1NA was visible continuously from 2:00 on, with a broad maximum around 4:00. The end of the trace at 6:20 can be seen in the upper left, smeared by the slow 21 mHz resolution setting. There might have been a few brighter and bluish noise pixels on 137779.0 around 3:40, but not a distinct trace of XES yet. <BR>
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Best wishes<BR>
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Markus,<BR>
DF6NM in JN59NK<BR>
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Super Markus - Some great captures yesterday - I make it around appx 
8062.07Kms 5009.769 Miles +-

Its a long way from the center of the US! Thanks to all for the 
help/comments

Cheers
Laurence Kl1x/5
Bartlesville OK



>From: MarkusVester@aol.com
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>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: LF: XDW: Traces in Bavaria
>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:46:01 EDT
>
>Dear Laurence and LF group,
>
>very pleased to find traces of XDW in Nuernberg, after sunrise between 6:30
>and 7:00. Though nowhere near Hartmut Wolff's amazing receive quality, the 
>two
>DFCW frequencies can be clearly made out in the SpecLab screenshot.
>
>VO1NA was visible continuously from 2:00 on, with a broad maximum around
>4:00. The end of the trace at 6:20 can be seen in the upper left, smeared 
>by the
>slow 21 mHz resolution setting. There might have been a few brighter and 
>bluish
>noise pixels on 137779.0 around 3:40, but not a distinct trace of XES yet.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Markus,
>DF6NM in JN59NK
>
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Dear LF Group,

Thanks to the Crawley club guys for setting up MB2HFC, and all those who
called/reported over the weekend - the final tally was roughly 20 stations
worked in 8 countries; G, F, DL, PA, EA, OH, OK, S5, so good activity.
Unfortunately, we did not manage to hook up with VO1NA; G0MRF and myself
were transmitting an receiving on schedule untill about 2am Sunday morning,
by which time we had not seen even a trace of Joe's signal, so we decided to
give up!

A more unfortunate piece of news was passed on to me during a QSO with Jeff,
F6BWO, who says that Werner, ON6ND is very ill - I expect he would
appreciate any messages or cards from those on LF who know him.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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<font size=3>Hello MIke,<br><br>
Many thanks for the nice pictures.<br><br>
It was good to see several amateurs I had the pleasure of meeting in
person at a LF conference several years ago.<br><br>
Ik was also nice to work MB2HFC with Jim at the key. I received MB2HFC
with a respectable 589 report. Fb signal!<br><br>
73, Dick, PA0SE<br><br>
At 16:55 24-10-04, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Had a good day at the RSGB HF
Convention yesterday. <br>
The three LF lectures and the demonstration station may <br>
have persuaded a few people to try 136kHz - there was <br>
certainly some interest.<br><br>
I took a few pictures which are at:<br>
<a href="http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/pictures/hfconv04.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/pictures/hfconv04.htm</a><br><br>
Mike, G3XDV<br>
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VO1NA was a good signal most of the night, but the signals 
appeared to be QRSS10 (or did I set my Argo wrong?) so 
that only the dashes were visible. By the time I realised this 
and re-set to QRSS10, the conditions had collapsed.

Mike, G3XDV
===========



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Dear Group,

After trying to receive MB2HFC, I ran the beacon on QRSS10.
Many thanks to Hartmut, M0BMU, DF6NM and Mike for the reports.
Also thanks to Brian's grab, I saw traces of the QRSS10 and
what appeared to be XDW as well.

Will resume QRSS30 this evening.

73
Joe



On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Mike Dennison wrote:

> VO1NA was a good signal most of the night, but the signals
> appeared to be QRSS10 (or did I set my Argo wrong?) so
> that only the dashes were visible. By the time I realised this
> and re-set to QRSS10, the conditions had collapsed.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ===========
>
>
>


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On 25 Oct 2004 at 13:25, Joe Craig wrote:

> After trying to receive MB2HFC, I ran the beacon on QRSS10.
> Many thanks to Hartmut, M0BMU, DF6NM and Mike for the reports.
> Also thanks to Brian's grab, I saw traces of the QRSS10 and
> what appeared to be XDW as well.
> Will resume QRSS30 this evening.

Joe,

Tests at QRSS10 would be useful as a two-way contact 
may be easier to complete at this speed, provided 
conditions are good enough. It would help, though, if you 
would announce any change in speed in advance. My 
apologies if you did and I missed it.

Many thanks for providing the beacon transmissions.

73
Mike, G3XDV
http://apersonalguide.co.uk/lf
=======================



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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:41:23 +0200
From: Hartmut Wolff <wolff.h@t-online.de>
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Subject: LF: TA last night 24/25th
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VO1NA:
The QRSS10 signal from VO1NA looks very good on a slow high resolution
screen nearly the whole night. But looking at the second screen
running in QRSS10 mode I copied only a very few full callsigns
2350-0010z, 0150-0220z and between 0700-0800z. Attached is a
screenshot taken 0210z.

WD2XES:
Copied a full "XES" between 0045-0115z.
  
Nothing else copied
 

Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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I just got my copy of LF Today.

Thank-you to Mike G3XDV and all the others that put this and other resources 
together for the community!  

I hope we can contribute to the next addition once we're over the cloud of 
smoke phase :)

73 Scott, VE7TIL



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Mike ZL4OL nr Dunedin, South Island ZL RE54GG captured wd2xdw between 
0800-0900Z Tuesday - this morning, 03-04 CST, or if my calcs are right thats 
21-22 DST in New Zealand, so just after ZL sunset path - the distance is 
(appx) 13,067Kms on a bearing of 231.8T from here which is in the main lobe 
of the loop in Oklahoma.

At the time is was heavy rain and wind here and I was getting around 1dB 
variation is the "erp" as it blew and changed the tuning a wee bit. Mikes 
seen traces of XDW before but this has been the best so far.

Mikes grab at  http://myweb.cableone.net/flow/zlxdw.jpg

Mike rx set up is an Icom ICR75 and the antenna is an inverted L, 19 metres 
vertical section, 15 metres horizontal section, 3mH elevated loading at the 
corner of the L and the rest of the L at the base.

XDW has been coming into Brians CT1DRP's grabber for the past 4 nights but 
sigs have been  pretty weak but visible around 0200-3Z. Saturday was, I 
think,  the best since we started prop testing from here.

Thanks again for the reports and grabs -

Laurence KL1X/5 em26aq
FCC OET Part 5 station wd2xdw
http://myweb.cableone.net/flow

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In view of Laurence's impressive results, I will be slowing
down to QRSS120 on 137.777 kHz this evening and keeping an
eye on Alan's forecasts.

73 Joe



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Received VO1NA's QRSS30 continuously from 2200 to 0600 
25/26 October. Strength was good at 2200 and best at 0600 
when it was very strong. weakest were the transmissions that 
started at 0000 and 0100UTC. Nothing was seen at 0700.

A picture of the best signal is at:
http://apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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Hi,
Saw G3XIZ calling CQ yesterday (25th) on 136.500 at 1705 bst. RST 589, about
25-30dB above noise level.
Also saw OH5UFO calling CQ QRSS3 137.700 2220 bst until 2357 bst. "O" copy,
some QRN.

Fabulous week-end...loads of activity. Many thanks to MB2HFC crew for
warming things up!

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

ganymede444@btopenworld.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 30 September 2004 17:48
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Subject: LF: G3XIZ 579 at 1644z Thurs


Hi  rare daytime morse signal from G3XIZ on 136.5 at 1644 calling CQ. I had
severe TV SMPSU interference FMing across the band but the signal was well
readable at about 579.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia(at)btinternet.com







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Hi Dave, glad you enjoyed the activity. It just shows there are people there
if there is something to work. The big "Thank You" goes to the crew from the
Crawley Club who laboured on Friday to put a good aerial up and get the gear
in (and who also had to clear up after us on Sunday) and who provided a good
remote receiver, without which operation would not have been possible due to
the level of computer RFI and presumable dimmers. I hope with increasing
levels of interference in domestic areas, that in future these units will
not be given such a bad press by some of our friends..... If BPL comes along
they may be necessary on HF as well !!. Good effort Derek and gang !!

Cheers de Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: 26 October 2004 19:01
Subject: LF: <more> G3XIZ 579 at 1644z Thurs


> Hi,
> Saw G3XIZ calling CQ yesterday (25th) on 136.500 at 1705 bst. RST 589,
about
> 25-30dB above noise level.
> Also saw OH5UFO calling CQ QRSS3 137.700 2220 bst until 2357 bst. "O"
copy,
> some QRN.
>
> Fabulous week-end...loads of activity. Many thanks to MB2HFC crew for
> warming things up!
>
> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
>
> ganymede444@btopenworld.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia
> Sent: 30 September 2004 17:48
> To: LF-Group
> Subject: LF: G3XIZ 579 at 1644z Thurs
>
>
> Hi  rare daytime morse signal from G3XIZ on 136.5 at 1644 calling CQ. I
had
> severe TV SMPSU interference FMing across the band but the signal was well
> readable at about 579.
>
> Cheers de Alan G3NYK
> alan.melia(at)btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Hi Mike & all at LF,

Joe's signal still visible here well after dawn, the clip shown in the
attachment is from 0800 to 0835 UTC (approx), using newly erected double
spiral top loaded antenna.

Regards

Gary - G4WGT

Web: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Mike Dennison
Sent: 26 October 2004 17:35
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Subject: LF: VO1NA good signal


Received VO1NA's QRSS30 continuously from 2200 to 0600
25/26 October. Strength was good at 2200 and best at 0600
when it was very strong. weakest were the transmissions that
started at 0000 and 0100UTC. Nothing was seen at 0700.

A picture of the best signal is at:
http://apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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Hi!

Copied station sending repeating NA sequence on 137.777 QRSS120, which I
take to be VO1NA. Traces of weak signals with QRN starting about 0100 UTC,
improving to "O" copy between 0500 to 0700 UTC. (see attached clip)
Sigs faded out around 0700 UTC.

Cheers

Dave, G3WCB IO91RM

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Hi Dave G3WCB and group,

Yes, that was VO1NA.  Thanks for the screen capture. By looking
at this, it seems work is needed on the software.  The letter
space between the NA's is short by one bit.

And thanks to Alan for his button-click-delayed report.

73
Joe


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Regards
 
Martin Maynard
Slightly off topic but can anyone explain the workings of the feed
arrangements of loop antenna. Am constructing a loop of 1.7 meters diameter
made out of 52inch tube rolled into a loop with a 2500pf vacuum variable
capacitor. The feed arrangement will be a smaller coax feed formed into a
loop with inner and outer joined to the braid. The bit that eludes me is how
the impedance is transformed. At first sight it looks like a one to one
transformer!

Martin G8CIX





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Pretty much continuous O copy of XDW here tonight from 0743 to 0954z. No
sign of XES or VO1NA.

Mike ZL4OL



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Mike thanks for the report and the snap..nice conditions over the Pacific 
tonite

Im using two sig gens to produce the high and low, and switched via relays 
driven from the serial port - the low is GPS referenced (HP3336b) and 
probably very close to 137.77520 oh oh oh etc. Im using ricks on7yd qrs prog 
sending a string of C's, about a 100 mins worth, dfcw half space, 24 secs 
between elements, unused spaces omitted and a reapeat time of 101 mins, so 
only short rests between bursts of 60v circa 20amps on the supply  line. Ive 
put a fan of the tx just to circulate the air a bit over the outboard LPF 
and main PA modules but its pretty cool  even though we have been running 
+24hr on these ground/sky propagation tests within the US. I did manage to 
burn (flame smoke etc) out the remote RF current meter yesterday in the atu 
shack with too much dissipation on the termination  R across the secondary 
of the sense coil, I knew that was going to happen sooner or later..The sig 
source DDS components are all here and its just time before putting it 
together and freeing up the sig gen hardware.

Laurence Kl1x/5



>From: "McAlevey" <mcalevey@xtra.co.nz>
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>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:51:18 +1300
>
>Pretty much continuous O copy of XDW here tonight from 0743 to 0954z. No
>sign of XES or VO1NA.
>
>Mike ZL4OL
>
>

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Good QRSS120 signals from Joe almost all night from 2130 to 
an incredible 0900UTC!!! Best was just before dawn at 
0600UTC; worst was 0145UTC.

Screen shots of the entire night can be found at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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VO1NA:
Faint traces incredible 1830-1910z! good copied 2110-0130z and
0330-0800z. Traces 0130-0330z and 0800-0830z.

WD2XES:
Copied weak 0240-0410z

Nothing else copied.
  

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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've received a request from Albert PA0A for circuit 
details of the Decca 5501.</FONT></P>
<P>I've looked, but can not find the circuit. Can anyone help?</P>
<P><A 
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hallo David,</FONT> </P>
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and I have been active on 136 kHz some years ago untill a storm took my antenne 
down. A couple of days ago I layed hands on a Decca 5501 PA and started a search 
on Internet for any information. I could not find the diagram but found your 
article of the conversion of the 5501. To safe time I would like to have some 
additional information such as: are the 3 drivers just fed in parallel ?&nbsp; 
So can I connect the three little coax cables together and apply a sine wave ? 
Do you know if the diagram of the PA is available somewhere ?</FONT></P>
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Mike

The #8 tone (JASON has 0-16 discrete tones for a total of 17) is the tone in 
the center of the JASON decode passband and should be 137784.25Hz.  In reality 
I'd say it is there within +-.1Hz as I don't have a way of disiplining it... 

The cycle is presently repeating in about 11 minutes. However, this is message 
dependant as I may add or remove message content to suit current 
requirements...

Thanks for the interest!

73 Scott
 

Quoting Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>:

> On 27 Oct 2004 at 12:15, Scott Tilley, VE7TIL wrote:
> 
> > 'TIL' is now sitting above the NA watering hole at 137784.25Hz sending
> > JASON in a nice hole in the Loran lines.
> 
> > The format of the signal is as follows:
> > 
> > 120 second tuning tone (Jason tone #8) . . . . . 
> 
> Scott, What is the exact RF frequency of this tone as it could be 
> used for DX monitoring much further away than the range of the 
> Jason signal?
> 
> Mike, G3XDV
> http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/
> ============================
> 
> 
> 






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<DIV>I have about 20 pages of manual on the 5501, including about 7 pages of 
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  <P>I've looked, but can not find the circuit. Can anyone help?</P>
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Again very early fade in of VO1NA. First faint traces about 1845z.
Since 1945z strong and stable signal.


Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de



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Laurence

nice O signal again tonight as soon as the sun set here. There was no trace
at
all this morning at your sunrise.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear LF Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All 3 of these transatlantic signals visible at 
good strength this morning between about 0600 and 0700 utc around sunrise here - 
see attachment. This was recorded using settings for QRSS30; if these signal 
strengths were maintained for a few hours at a stretch, 2-way contacts with any 
of the 3 stations would be possible at QRSS30 speeds.</FONT></DIV>
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Jim,

Nice shot, and the first with all three stations, I believe. Thanks!

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Group and Albert,

I have scanned a few of the Decca Tx diagrams and added 
Jim's modification details.

They are indexed at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/decca/transmitter.htm

More diagrams and text will be added over the next couple 
of days (paid work prevents me from doing them all at 
once). Keep checking the index page for the latest 
installment.

Mike, G3XDV
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Thank-you Jim, and the other stations from which I have
received reports.

73 Joe

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, John Andrews wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Nice shot, and the first with all three stations, I believe. Thanks!
>
> John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
>
>


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VO1NA:
After the early fade in last night the signal was strong until 0130z.
Only traces 0130z-0300z. Then again strong signal until 0640z. Traces
until 0830z.

WD2XES:
Traces since 2215z, then 0020-0630z copied most of the "XES" segments.
Some signs missed due to fading.

WD2XDW:
Visible 0100-0540z with some deeper fadings. Strongest signal
0430-0530z.


Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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If anyone is planning overnight Eu operations please let me know with a 
direct email and Ill take a listen from the car as Ill be driving in the 
Texas/NM and Mexico border areas late nights over the weekend and Monday.

Rig if IC706 Mk1, which works fine if driven with enough rf on 137Khz (!), 
L400b E probe and g3yxm xdB bandpass preamp/pc argo - pretty sensitive 
actually and not at all noisy as you drive along.

Laurence Kl1X/5/m

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Uncredible: Traces of VO1NA captured 1300-1500z here in Germany.
See attachement.
  

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As others have done, I report good signals from VO1NA 
last night. The start was as early as 2100UTC, with a peak 
at 0600 and fade out at 0900, but traces until 1145!

Received XDW for the first time, though the lower tone was 
almost completely submerged in a noise line. Start was 
0130, peak at 0500 when Laurence was briefly stronger 
than Joe, and fade out at 0640.

No report on XES who was just off my screen.

The full session can be viewed at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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Harmut,

> Uncredible: Traces of VO1NA captured 1300-1500z here in Germany.

Wow! This must be a combination of good conditions plus the 6 dB gain of QRSS120 over QRSS30. Impressive, though.

You must have a very quiet QTH.

John Andrews



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Good solid Argo "o" paint in the UK from Reino OH5UFO tonight from 20.45 to
21.00 UTC calling CQ but no takers.

Managed to get my shack back together and operational again today on the 136
band after the gear was recovered from the outing at the RSGB HFC2004
Conference and hope to be on over the weekend.

73,  de  Derek G3GRO



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Hi Hartmut, yes this is the time of year for it!! I did see Joe during the
day-time once last winter, but it was the only time he forgot to switch the
rig off in the morning !! The conditions are very quiet at the moment and
there is little extra absorbing ionisation in the D layer. The 1400z to
1500z slot is about the time where the sun is at its zenith at the centre of
the path giving the highest level of UV ionisation. Paradoxically this is
"refelcting" the signal not absorbing it as normal at higher ionisation
levels.

I believe this path is probably 4 D-layer hops. I have seen more regularly
signals like you have reported in the early evening recently. In these you
may find that the solar (night-time) shadow at an altitude of 100km is only
about mid Atlantic when the signal appears. I believe under these conditions
there may be 2 D-layer (50km) hops followed by one hop from maybe 100km, the
night-time "reflection" level. I think that what you see confirms that there
are now very few injected (precipitated) electrons left from the last
geomagnetic disturbance. Signal variations are now probably due to
enhancement and cancelltions between different path mode (2-hop, 3-hop, and
4-hop)

It is possible to see this daytime skywave effect on the daily plots posted
by Brian CT1DRP. His path to DCF39 in daytime is mainly by skywave and you
can see a peak in the signal at about 1100 - 1200z. Because this path is
only 1960km and the TX is 50kW the signal is always visible above the noise.
I believe that if CFH was running you would probably be seeing their signal
in daytime now on most days. It gets even more noticable as the days get
shorter.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia(at)btinternet.com

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: LF: VO1NA today!


> Uncredible: Traces of VO1NA captured 1300-1500z here in Germany.
> See attachement.
>
>
> Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
> Locator: JO52HO



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Wait till the night he transmits while driving down the road :-D

-- 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI




G4gvw wrote:

>Laurence
> 
>This is beginning to sound like an eventual foray into /M operation on  LF  :)
> 
>Pat g4gvw
>
>  
>



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frequency radio stations.<BR>The 27-month pilot will be known as the Loran-C 
trial. "It offers a great opportunity to improve transmitter and hence 
navigational coverage in the UK, Ireland and the Atlantic," Mike explained. 
"Ships will be given a receiver to monitor the Loran signal as part of their 
shipboard safety and navigation equipment. The transmitters all broadcast at the 
same frequency, so users will know their position, wherever they happen to be." 
BT's major client solutions' radio services unit, part of BT Global Services, 
has begun installation of the transmitting system at Rugby radio 
station.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>INFO<BR>For further information, e-mail:<BR><A 
href="mailto:john.r.faulkner@bt.com">john.r.faulkner@bt.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>I really cannot see anyone using Loran when they have GPS 
but there's politics involved. They really WILL have to give away the 
receivers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>Walter G3JKV.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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> BT is playing a key role in an initiative to deploy a navigational
> safety beacon around the UK, Ireland and the Atlantic. The company has
> won a contract to deliver a trial long range navigation (Loran) beacon
> system to the organisations responsible for providing marine aids to
> navigation in the UK and Ireland - the General Lighthouse Authorities.

Perhaps now is the time for anyone with contacts to see 
whether a notch can be provided at 136kHz.

Mike, G3XDV
============



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On 30/10/2004 at 14:25 Mike Dennison wrote:

>> BT is playing a key role in an initiative to deploy a navigational
>> safety beacon around the UK, Ireland and the Atlantic. The company has
>> won a contract to deliver a trial long range navigation (Loran) beacon
>> system to the organisations responsible for providing marine aids to
>> navigation in the UK and Ireland - the General Lighthouse Authorities.
>
>Perhaps now is the time for anyone with contacts to see 
>whether a notch can be provided at 136kHz.
And 87kHz.

John Rabson G3PAI
Cave Radio & Electronics Group




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VO1NA was a good signal again last night, starting before 
1935UTC (when I first switched on) with a complete "NA" 
visible at 0800.

Also worked my 100th 136kHz station this morning. 
OK2BVG's DFCW3 was a good 'O' and he gave my 
QRSS3 an 'O', though signals faded towards the end 
making the final Rs a struggle. 

As usual, pictures of both are at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Mike, G3XDV
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:22 PM
Subject: LF: Mobile


> If anyone is planning overnight Eu operations please let me know with a 
> direct email and Ill take a listen from the car as Ill be driving in the 
> Texas/NM and Mexico border areas late nights over the weekend and Monday.
> 
Will transmit tonight on 135.920, QRS 120

Peter, G3LDO



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is a little less than 3 hours of VO1NA's 
QRSS120 recorded during the afternoon (1-4 PM my local time) today:</FONT></DIV>
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Dear LF group,<BR>
<BR>
 I have been trying to put an experimental screen grabber online. It features a slow, colour-coded directional display of the full LF band (135.6 to 138.2 kHz), supposedly updated every half hour. Have a look via <A HREF="http:\\members.aol.com\DF6NM">http:\\members.aol.com\DF6NM</A> - it won't be on permanantly, but i'll try to keep it up tonight.<BR>
<BR>
Credentials to Wolfgang DL4YHF, for his excellent SpecLab Software.<BR>
<BR>
73 es best DX<BR>
<BR>
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VO1NA:
Faint traces 1730 until 1910z. Then good copy until 0800z with fading
0000-0030z and 0200-0230z. After 0800z traces up to 0830z. No daytime
reception.

WD2XES:
Weak copy of "XES" between 0400-0430z and 0600-0630z

Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
Locator: JO52HO 



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John Andrews said:

> WD2XES should be back on Sunday night after a repackaging of the output
> transformer and filter components.
>
> Watching 135.920 for G3LDO...nothing seen yet.
>

Didn't start transmitting until 2310z.
Had problems with the feed insulator. There is a lot of fog & precipitation
tonight and moisture is running off the sloping section of the antenna on to
the insulator, causing some arcing and steam! (is this the origin of 'steam
radio' I ask).

I am transmitting QRSS30 for the time being with the system under
supervision. Just checked my signals on DF6NM's grabber.

Peter, G3LDO





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>
> Didn't start transmitting until 2310z.
> Had problems with the feed insulator. There is a lot of fog &
precipitation
> tonight and moisture is running off the sloping section of the antenna on
to
> the insulator, causing some arcing and steam! (is this the origin of
'steam
> radio' I ask).
>
> I am transmitting QRSS30 for the time being with the system under
> supervision. Just checked my signals on DF6NM's grabber.

Switched off at 0020z
Will try again early morning

Peter G3LDO


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Peter,

> Switched off at 0020z
> Will try again early morning

I'll leave it running overnight on a 30 sec screen centered on 135.920. It
is noisy here tonight, so no promises. I did see some activity around
135919.65 when you were on the air, but couldn't read it.

John Andrews




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No sign of LDO here tonight.  NA was off 0200-0320 while looking
for Peter.  Unfortunately he was off by then too.

73
Joe



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT  SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="2">Hi Markus and the group,<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the flowers Markus - I guess your new DSL connection works now, and causes no harm to your LF reception. <BR>
I was not so lucky with the new antenna system here (at DF0WD), as I wanted to paint a "thanks"-msg in Hellschreiber on your screen. As far as I can tell, the local QRM has increased even futher (since I went QRT on LF 2 years ago), even an RX-loop near the TX-vertical does not help because of the coupling. I will have to disconnect the TX-wire while receiving. Hope to get the damn thing running soon...<BR>
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Best regards, have a nice weekend,<BR>
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On 30 Oct 2004 at 20:48, g3ldo wrote:
 
> Will transmit tonight on 135.920, QRS 120

There has been little transatlantic activity from Eu this year. 
It's all been West to East.  I would be prepared to put out a 
beacon on Saturday nights if anyone is interested in 
listening. Perhaps others would like to join in, especially 
those who have never been received in NA?

With consistent signals from Joe, there ought to be plenty 
of scope for more two-ways once Eu stations are confident 
of their chances of beng heard/seen.

Mike, G3XDV
===========





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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was interested to see on your directional grabber 
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Mike

Always interested in receiving the EU stations. The year before last
CT1DRP and several G land stations ran "beacons" for a few weeks - which
were well received on this side of the pond. Condx varied considerably
from night to night - it worked out well being able to look over the
longer term. Might the EU guys consider doing this again?

Either qso or beacon operation - a number of us we'll be watching for
your signals. Loran line frequencies to avoid (courtesy W1TAG).

135918.197 5990 - Canadian West Coast
135918.675 9960 - Northeast U.S.
135919.056 5930 - Canadian East Coast
135919.732 5980 - Russian American
135919.732 8970 - Great Lakes
135920.523 9940 - Western U.S.
135920.916 9610 - South Central U.S.
135920.921 9990 - North Pacific
135921.053 7980 - Southeast U.S.
135921.596 7270 - Newfoundland East Coast
135922.799 8290 - North Central U.S.
135923.367 7960 - Gulf of Alaska
135923.695 9960 - Northeast U.S.
135925.307 8970 - Great Lakes

Jay, W1VD

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> On 30 Oct 2004 at 20:48, g3ldo wrote:
>
> > Will transmit tonight on 135.920, QRS 120
>
> There has been little transatlantic activity from Eu this year.
> It's all been West to East.  I would be prepared to put out a
> beacon on Saturday nights if anyone is interested in
> listening. Perhaps others would like to join in, especially
> those who have never been received in NA?
>
> With consistent signals from Joe, there ought to be plenty
> of scope for more two-ways once Eu stations are confident
> of their chances of beng heard/seen.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> ===========
>
>
>
>



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Mike,

I'll certainly join Jay in listening if any of you want to try it. With more
of the guys over here focused on 136 kHz because of the U.S./Canadian
experimental activity, there should be more potential listeners than ever.
Saturday nights sound fine.

John Andrews




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Another impressive night from Joe. Apart from the gap 
where his Tx was switched off, the signal is solid from 2000 
to 0703UTC. 

Pics are at:
http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/

Unless anyone finds these screen shots useful, I will not 
post pictures of any more complete nights, but will 
concentrate on particularly interesting captures.

Mike, G3XDV
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">Quite a bit of Eu DX this weekend.</span></font></div>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">Heard F6BWO (549), DK7SU (549), G3XIZ (589) 
and F6CWA (539). Called DJ1RL (549) but no reply.</span></font></p>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">On QRSS3, I worked OK2BVG, OH5UFO and 
S52AB who was not quite readable on QRSS3 but 
100% when he slowed to QRSS10. Total distance to 
these stations was around 4500km. A good weekend!</span></font></div>
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Copied Joe, VO1NA 1830-0530z except for the period the beacon was off for
listening to G3LDO and some fading 0340-0410z. After 0530z traces up to 0800z.
  

Hartmut Wolff                         mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de
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