From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 64505 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 11:27:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 11:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 37163 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 11:27:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 11:27:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B90MJ-0009XB-Jc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:27:43 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B90KT-0005Pp-QV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:25:49 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B90KT-0005Pg-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:25:49 +0100 Received: from mta3-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.43]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B90KQ-0005EZ-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:25:46 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.182]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040401112545.KYYG27989.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:25:45 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c417d1$685f5b60$b6e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:08:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_30_40=0.809,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi All

I got up early this morning to work some 160m dx and observe 137 khz.

VO1NA was solid copy on 137.77 khz from 0537utc until long past daylight when I left the shack at 0550 utc (0700 local time and daylight)

My best DX on 160 cw was W5DR 579 and K5BG 599 also heard N7KA gone daylight !!

Good condx this morning.

Antenna on 137khz - 80 metre perimiter loop, matched and resonated for the band.

160 metre antenna inv L total length vert/horiz 1wavelength approx. 160 metres. I intend to modify this antenna into a 2 element phased vertical system, when I get some time.

73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH

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(v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19910408867.20040401215401@t-online.de> To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Seen: false X-ID: Z2eokTZSoePpEHW5xb4nF3Q3plcQo63hhHywWXD8LhrvxDNckRKq6m X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_NJABL=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL=0.011 Subject: LF: VO1NA beaconing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi All, copied VO1NA in QRSS3 mode last night 0012-0150 and 0320-0450 between 0150 and 0320 only traces of the signal. rx: NRD525, preamp, terminated loop 73 Hartmut Wolff mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de JO52HO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84401 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 19:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 19:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 74913 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 19:00:35 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 19:00:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B97QW-000J6V-Nd for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:00:32 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B97PZ-00022Z-Gp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:59:33 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B97PZ-00022Q-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:59:33 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B97PP-0005vD-Kn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:59:23 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i31Ix9As034482 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:59:15 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:59:52 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1793747406.20040401225952@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-To: <19910408867.20040401215401@t-online.de> References: <19910408867.20040401215401@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.211,TW_TN=0.077 Subject: LF: FTP server test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Pse test my FTP server. http://62.183.41.10/capt1.jpg QRSS3 mode 137.700 kHz http://62.183.41.10/capt2.jpg QRSS30 mode 137.775 kHz Reload Spectran pictures every 1 minutes. Antenna Rx=Tx http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/index.htm Wow, two programs through one sound card is a fine, tnx Alberto. -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6603 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 19:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 19:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 73392 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 19:11:15 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 19:11:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B97ap-000ILL-LB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:11:11 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B97aE-0003q5-1M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:10:34 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B97aD-0003pw-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:10:33 +0100 Received: from mta6-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.46]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B97a3-0005wN-6x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:10:23 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.123]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040401191022.RYQV24185.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:10:22 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000001c41812$128b1800$7be5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <126.3d259ffa.2d96010e@aol.com> <000a01c41385$67aebee0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000001c41748$56be1b00$03d2fc3e@l8p8y6> <000a01c41764$86a44ee0$3401a8c0@JKA> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:21:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.599,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_TN=0.077,TW_WK=0.077 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WD2XES 137.7788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: WD2XES 137.7788 > Mal, > > > Are u running xes every night or just the odd time. I have been away for a > > while but back agn and will listen when possible if u are on. > > What type of tx antenna are u using. > > Just odd times at this point, but I do post them here. Assuming that the > ionosphere continues to settle down, I may run it again in a couple of days. > The antenna is is a vertical loop with 100 watts or so, representing quite a > challenge for TA. The terms of the experimental license do not allow for > Amateur QSO's, so this is a one-way proposition. Hi John Had u been active this morning, I think I would have hrd/seen ur signal. VO1NA was solid with me early morning and into daylight, 160 was good also to W5 and W7 plus a few East Coast stns. Worked a few this past cple of mornings NO2R, N4PN, W8FJ, K2TS, WD5R, K5BG and VE3ZI. I have wkd a number of W6 and W7 and KL7 stns on this band over the years. I have been busy lately with other things and just got back to 137 khz a couple of days ago. I got a msg from Bill also I am still using the vertical system as described before for TX plus RX and the loop for RX only. The loop is optimum EAST and WEST. I should have no trouble hearing sigs from the USA given the time to listen and watch hi cul and tnx info. de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86251 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 20:22:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 20:22:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10151 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 20:22:01 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 20:21:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B98hK-0002Oe-Bi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:21:58 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B98gM-0000NA-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:20:58 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B98gL-0000N1-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:20:57 +0100 Received: from cmsrelay03.mx.net ([165.212.11.112]) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B98gA-00064U-GX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:20:46 +0100 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 20:20:13 -0000 Received: from usa.net [151.41.157.245] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 421iDauuk0402M31; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:20:10 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.41.157.245 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <406C797F.8070603@usa.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:20:15 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <19910408867.20040401215401@t-online.de> <1793747406.20040401225952@73.ru> In-Reply-To: <1793747406.20040401225952@73.ru> X-Spam-Score: 3.1 (+++) X-Spam-Report: FAKE_HELO_USA_NET=2.8,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.211,TW_TN=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: FTP server test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=FAKE_HELO_USA_NET, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi Sam, aren't you perhaps keeping the brightness control a bit too high ? The two captures I have just seen are almost all white, if a signal shows up, it would be a bit difficult to see it. Adjust the controls so that the background noise corresponds to a dark blue, for optimum results. 73 Alberto I2PHD --------------------------------------- rn6bn wrote: >Pse test my FTP server. >http://62.183.41.10/capt1.jpg QRSS3 mode 137.700 kHz >http://62.183.41.10/capt2.jpg QRSS30 mode 137.775 kHz >Reload Spectran pictures every 1 minutes. > >Antenna Rx=Tx http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/index.htm > >Wow, two programs through one sound card is a fine, tnx Alberto. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 76488 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2004 15:00:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2004 15:00:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 63794 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2004 15:10:10 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2004 15:09:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9QIx-000Fet-Iv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 15:09:59 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9QHQ-0002Bv-7J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:08:24 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9QHP-0002Bb-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:08:23 +0100 Received: from mta1-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.41]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9QHF-0007fX-79 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:08:13 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.209.49]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040402150812.FSCR19867.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:08:12 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c418b6$4b65e520$31d1fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:27:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_QS=0.077 Subject: LF: LF DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

VO1NA visible this morning around 0452 utc severe qsb and poor compared to yesterday.

160 also poor only N8PR heard from across the sea. Lots of EU stns CQ DX going nowhere.Some listening would be better.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 52935 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 00:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 00:12:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4159 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 00:12:24 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 00:12:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9Ylb-000MjG-JF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 00:12:07 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9YjL-0004eO-9T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:09:47 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9YjK-0004dy-BZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:09:46 +0100 Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.228]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9YjH-0008TY-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:09:43 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: johncellarnew Received: from johncellarnew (cpe-68-118-232-30.ma.charter.com [68.118.232.30]) by mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i3306keN011422; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 19:06:48 -0500 (EST) X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (charter.net) Message-ID: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 00:06:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: WD2XES 3 April Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 WD2XES will be sending "XES" on 137.779 kHz in QRSS60 mode tonight until 1200 UTC. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES WD2XES Status: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60462 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 00:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 00:20:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 39252 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 00:20:08 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 00:20:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9YtJ-0009xE-Mz for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:20:05 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9Yri-0006pg-PV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:18:26 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9Yri-0006pX-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:18:26 +0100 Received: from cupids.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.16]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9Yre-0008V1-Rp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:18:22 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.151]) by cupids.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i330IDd5036619 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:48:14 -0330 (NST) (envelope-from jcraig@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i330I2gj000763 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:48:13 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id i330I2Ux029710; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:48:02 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:48:01 -0330 (NST) From: Joe Craig X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Message-ID: References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Report: * 0.3 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: UPPERCASE_25_50=0.261 Subject: Re: LF: WD2XES 3 April Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit And VO1NA will be 2 Hz lower on QRSS30. Joe On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, John Andrews wrote: > WD2XES will be sending "XES" on 137.779 kHz in QRSS60 mode tonight until > 1200 UTC. > > John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES > WD2XES Status: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70155 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 10:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 10:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 82391 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 10:45:26 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 10:45:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B9ieS-000LJS-Tm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 10:45:24 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9idT-0002Wi-C3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:44:23 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9idS-0002WZ-Tk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:44:22 +0100 Received: from mta2-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.42]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9idP-0000uH-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:44:19 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.80]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040403104418.EHBK2708.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:44:18 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c41952$c87a7de0$50d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:07:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: LF DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi All

This morning VO1NA was a better signal during early morning daylight than during the dark period. No other signals seen at this time. I must check mid day he is probably still there.

160 m dx scarce but did work KV4FZ 599 with me and VA3PL 559.

Its getting very routine need some better condx for West coast and Pacific DX

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36078 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 11:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 11:43:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 45162 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 11:53:29 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 11:53:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9jiI-000Bc8-21 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:53:26 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9jhX-0006tF-9r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:52:39 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9jhW-0006t6-Nd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:52:38 +0100 X-No-DNS-For: 80.68.4.13 Received: from [80.68.4.13] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9jhT-00010T-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:52:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 38828 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:52:03 +0400 X-Fake-Domain: ed.dx Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by 80.68.4.13 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:52:03 +0400 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:51:33 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Dear LF enthusiasts! I have put some photos on the site in "3 Rus Exp" see http://136.73.ru/h_exp/index.htm ...also some info abt LF DXpeditions 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75598 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 20804 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:08:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:08:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B9mlC-0005G6-Es for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:08:38 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9mkI-000816-Hc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:07:42 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9mkI-00080x-4q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:07:42 +0100 Received: from ms.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9mkE-0001E1-UX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:07:39 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: we0h Received: from we0h (rev-65.165.20.192.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.192]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i33F7FmB022779 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:07:15 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:09:01 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: RE: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi Ed, Do you have an English webpage??? My Russian language is not too good. Hi hi... 73's, Mike WE0H WD2XGI -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Ed Lesnichy Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:52 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Dear LF enthusiasts! I have put some photos on the site in "3 Rus Exp" see http://136.73.ru/h_exp/index.htm ...also some info abt LF DXpeditions 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43745 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:15:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 90741 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:15:14 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:15:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9mrY-000NTv-UD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:15:12 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9mqN-0008EW-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:13:59 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9mqM-0008EN-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:13:58 +0100 X-No-DNS-For: 80.68.4.13 Received: from [80.68.4.13] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9mqJ-0001Eb-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:13:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 42796 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 19:13:24 +0400 X-Fake-Domain: ed.dx Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by 80.68.4.13 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 19:13:24 +0400 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 19:12:55 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4332317909.20040403191255@dx.ru> To: WE0H In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi Mike, Saturday, April 3, 2004, 7:09:01 PM, you wrote: W> Do you have an English webpage??? My Russian language is not too good. Hi W> hi... SRI.. but my English is not too good ;-(( 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47972 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:19:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:19:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 88759 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 15:19:16 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 15:19:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B9mvT-000MrW-AO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:19:15 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9muz-0000UQ-DH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:18:45 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9muy-0000Tz-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:18:44 +0100 Received: from ms.genesis-technology.com ([63.171.43.8]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9muv-0001F4-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:18:41 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: we0h Received: from we0h (rev-65.165.20.192.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.192]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i33FIHmB023016 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:18:18 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:20:04 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4332317909.20040403191255@dx.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: RE: Re: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi hi... OK, I found Alta Vista webpage translator, which shows most of your page in English. I will have to have my friend Leonid teach me more Russian. Dasvidanya!!! Mike WE0H WD2XGI -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Ed Lesnichy Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:13 AM To: WE0H Subject: LF: Re: 3rd Rus LF - report#1 Hi Mike, Saturday, April 3, 2004, 7:09:01 PM, you wrote: W> Do you have an English webpage??? My Russian language is not too good. Hi W> hi... SRI.. but my English is not too good ;-(( 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51072 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 16:15:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 16:15:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 55752 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2004 16:15:33 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2004 16:15:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B9nnw-000ENo-Be for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:15:32 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B9nnD-0004oe-Dm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:14:47 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B9nnC-0004oK-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:14:46 +0100 Received: from deet.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.29]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9nn9-0001Kz-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:14:43 +0100 Received: from [213.122.114.3] (helo=Main) by deet.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1B9nn6-0001b7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:14:43 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <003e01c41996$c0bcbd40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 17:14:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Brian...2 bounces again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Brian posted in the usual place Alan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89618 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 08:40:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 08:40:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 87174 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 08:40:14 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 08:40:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BA3Ar-000MYr-3J for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:40:13 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BA39s-00060n-At for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:39:12 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BA39r-00060e-TT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:39:11 +0100 Received: from mta4-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.44]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BA39h-000469-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:39:01 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.209.48]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040404083901.TLMD9924.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 09:39:01 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c419fe$eeefd860$30d1fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 05:39:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.68,HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: LF DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Nothing seen/hrd this early morning on 137 khz but 160 metres produced the odd bit of DX to the west coast USA.

worked N6TC then K9DX, AA0RS and K2TS.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27201 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 10:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 10:48:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22904 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 10:48:25 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 10:48:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BA5Au-0005oU-8T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 10:48:24 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BA5A2-0005Fq-0m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:47:30 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BA5A1-0005Fh-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:47:29 +0100 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.93]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BA59x-0004G7-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:47:25 +0100 Received: from [213.122.190.152] (helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BA59u-0007g4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:47:22 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <000701c41a32$35326a80$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 11:47:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: LF Propagtion forcasing article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi all, I have posted a description of some studies I have been making in an attempt to refine the accuracy of predicting good conditions on night-time 136khz paths. This is a development from the use of the Kp index and a wet finger (or damp rabbit's paw !!) is thanks to some pointers from a member of the VLF (natural radio) community. The paper can be found on my web site at http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/DstIndex.htm Earlier propagation and general articles can be found through links from the home page http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19625 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 18:09:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 18:09:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 93615 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 18:09:31 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 18:09:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BAC3j-000Nu3-38 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:09:27 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BAC2I-0007Yu-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:07:58 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BAC2I-0007Yl-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:07:58 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BAC2F-0004kY-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:07:55 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: fwd08.aul.t-online.de Received: from fwd08.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAC2B-0006Fk-00; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:07:51 +0200 X-Fake-Domain: (GuZHKsZe8e6DWnS02EmSk86SAAB6oclUv4vTqz8Hjjzrrn04J-bwkL@[62.224.49.168]) Received: from (GuZHKsZe8e6DWnS02EmSk86SAAB6oclUv4vTqz8Hjjzrrn04J-bwkL@[62.224.49.168]) by fwd08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAC1j-0c5Y120; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:07:23 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1BAC1j-0c5Y120@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: GuZHKsZe8e6DWnS02EmSk86SAAB6oclUv4vTqz8Hjjzrrn04J-bwkL X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS=1.574 Subject: LF: 700pF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi, I measured the FS of my 600W tx equipment with 3.2mV/m in a distance of 1.7km some month ago. there is a 17m alu pole (SM17, Bundeswehr surplus) located 8m off the tx aerial (16m vertical with elevated coil). last week I insolated the alu pole and its guy wires completly against earth by lifting it up as it stands (with supreme effort by my assisting neighbours). I had hopes the effort would have some positive results conc the FS: I measure 700pF form pole against the earth radial system but the FS did not change, it stubborn shows 3.2mV/m. regards from frustrated Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68968 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 19:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 19:37:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 46273 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 19:47:57 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 19:47:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BADb2-000Bur-0D for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:47:56 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BADaJ-00062H-6V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:47:11 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BADaI-000628-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:47:10 +0100 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.93]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BADaF-0004s4-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:47:07 +0100 Received: from [213.122.121.15] (helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BADaE-0003rk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:47:06 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <002e01c41a7d$a311bf60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> <1BAC1j-0c5Y120@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:32:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: 700pF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Uwe, I would not expect a non-resonant pole at 8m from the aerial vertical section to make a lot of difference or produce much loss. If it were resonant at 136khz it would be different. Our measurement at EI0CF were similar and it was only necessary to detune one aerial to remove the loss. 700pF seems a lot for a 17m pole ....I would have expected more like 85-90pF, but it depends on how you measured it. Lossy environment like trees and wet brickwork is more of a problem. Are you just using a vertical without any top capacity loading ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: 04 April 2004 19:07 Subject: LF: 700pF > Hi, > > I measured the FS of my 600W tx equipment with 3.2mV/m in a distance of 1.7km > some month ago. > > there is a 17m alu pole (SM17, Bundeswehr surplus) located 8m off the tx aerial > (16m vertical with elevated coil). > > last week I insolated the alu pole and its guy wires completly against earth by > lifting it up as it stands (with supreme effort by my assisting neighbours). > > I had hopes the effort would have some positive results conc the FS: > I measure 700pF form pole against the earth radial system but the FS did not > change, it stubborn shows 3.2mV/m. > > regards from frustrated > Uwe/dj8wx > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89207 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 20:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 20:28:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 82407 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2004 20:28:46 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 20:28:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BAEEX-000L6A-9G for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:28:45 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BAEDr-0008AS-2R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:28:03 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BAEDq-0008AJ-JR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:28:02 +0100 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BAEDn-0004vs-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:27:59 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: fwd03.aul.t-online.de Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAEDl-00071W-0B; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 22:27:57 +0200 X-Fake-Domain: (V8HJLEZCoeOUKasmyIB+nzSFXLybxbpLm33AOar7shCX-M6PGAzdkM@[62.158.13.39]) Received: from (V8HJLEZCoeOUKasmyIB+nzSFXLybxbpLm33AOar7shCX-M6PGAzdkM@[62.158.13.39]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAEDj-0qGOK80; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:27:55 +0200 From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> <1BAC1j-0c5Y120@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> <002e01c41a7d$a311bf60$6507a8c0@Main> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1BAEDj-0qGOK80@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: V8HJLEZCoeOUKasmyIB+nzSFXLybxbpLm33AOar7shCX-M6PGAzdkM X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS=1.574 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 700pF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Alan Melia schrieb: > Hi Uwe, I would not expect a non-resonant pole at 8m from the aerial > vertical section to make a lot of difference or produce much loss. If it > were resonant at 136khz it would be different. Our measurement at EI0CF were > similar and it was only necessary to detune one aerial to remove the loss. > 700pF seems a lot for a 17m pole ....I would have expected more like > 85-90pF, but it depends on how you measured it. Lossy environment like trees > and wet brickwork is more of a problem. Are you just using a vertical > without any top capacity loading ?? > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> > To: > Sent: 04 April 2004 19:07 > Subject: LF: 700pF > > > > Hi, > > > > I measured the FS of my 600W tx equipment with 3.2mV/m in a distance of > 1.7km > > some month ago. > > > > there is a 17m alu pole (SM17, Bundeswehr surplus) located 8m off the tx > aerial > > (16m vertical with elevated coil). > > > > last week I insolated the alu pole and its guy wires completly against > earth by > > lifting it up as it stands (with supreme effort by my assisting > neighbours). > > > > I had hopes the effort would have some positive results conc the FS: > > I measure 700pF form pole against the earth radial system but the FS did > not > > change, it stubborn shows 3.2mV/m. > > > > regards from frustrated > > Uwe/dj8wx > > > > Dear Alan, three longwires 70m each are connected to the Vertical. the 17m pole has en summa 12 guys of steel 5mm dia. may be thats the reason for high capacity. best regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80176 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 18:18:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2004 18:18:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 74398 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 18:18:03 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2004 18:18:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BAYfa-000J5n-5C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:18:02 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BAYdc-0003CT-0E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:16:00 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BAYdb-0003CK-H1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:15:59 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BAYdR-0006lQ-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:15:49 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: fwd10.aul.t-online.de Received: from fwd10.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAYdQ-0001TF-00; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:15:48 +0200 X-Fake-Domain: oben Received: from oben (ESvrF8Zrgexg7iGv-vHu3QZBH5NG-+0tp2e9IaMEbxj-TzDV8xOKUs@[217.88.168.141]) by fwd10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BAYcq-0Zi9nk0; Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:15:12 +0200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (oben) Message-ID: <002801c41b3a$6cfeaf60$ee9bfea9@oben> From: dj9dw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c41907$300adbe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <4920234613.20040403155133@dx.ru> <1BAC1j-0c5Y120@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:18:42 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Seen: false X-ID: ESvrF8Zrgexg7iGv-vHu3QZBH5NG-+0tp2e9IaMEbxj-TzDV8xOKUs X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_NJABL=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: 700pF X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Uwe and group, what was the capacitance before isulating? vy73 Peter, dj9dw ----- Original Message ----- From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: LF: 700pF > Hi, > > I measured the FS of my 600W tx equipment with 3.2mV/m in a distance of 1.7km > some month ago. > > there is a 17m alu pole (SM17, Bundeswehr surplus) located 8m off the tx aerial > (16m vertical with elevated coil). > > last week I insolated the alu pole and its guy wires completly against earth by > lifting it up as it stands (with supreme effort by my assisting neighbours). > > I had hopes the effort would have some positive results conc the FS: > I measure 700pF form pole against the earth radial system but the FS did not > change, it stubborn shows 3.2mV/m. > > regards from frustrated > Uwe/dj8wx > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65387 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 19:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2004 19:17:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 53776 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 19:17:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2004 19:17:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BAZbI-000Da5-OU for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:17:40 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BAZaY-0006ef-8r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:16:54 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BAZaX-0006c1-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:16:53 +0100 Received: from outmx005.isp.belgacom.be ([195.238.2.102]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BAZaN-0006pv-CT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:16:43 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: mh70i Received: from mh70i (90.178-4-62.powered-by.skynet.be [62.4.178.90]) by outmx005.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.9/8.12.9/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with SMTP id i35JGZdU029541 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:16:36 +0200 (envelope-from ) X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mh70i) Message-ID: <001501c41b42$867320e0$5ab2043e@mh70i> From: "DE BONDT WERNER" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:16:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (outmx005.isp.belgacom.be) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_50_60=0.183,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: ERP-F6BWO Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello all

I just received a phone call from Jeff F6BWO

Testing and measuring the ERP on his antenna

Jeff uses the system for measuring and calibrating from PA0SE

The results are ....... 50 mW. ERP........

Mni 73 to all from Jeff , hi is not on internet.

Best regards

Werner ON6ND

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Nothing exciting on 137 khz just the norm VO acty, 160 m good to the East coast but not many stns active.

K3NA 599 plus very strong and AD8P active and both worked. Nothing heard from the West coast.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43860 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 11:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 11:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 73133 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 11:13:43 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 11:13:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBAzz-000I6Y-Rx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:13:40 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBAz5-0002nU-Os for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:12:43 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBAz5-0002nL-6C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:12:43 +0100 Received: from smtp.flexi-surf.co.uk ([62.41.128.11] helo=smtp.v21.co.uk) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBAys-00025D-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:12:30 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: y6m8a2 Received: from y6m8a2 (host81-7-55-96.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.55.96]) by kaliber.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i37BBv316404 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:11:57 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (y6m8a2) Message-ID: <003d01c41c91$9e3007c0$60370751@y6m8a2> From: "Frederick John Armstrong" To: "lf group" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:15:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: 137 kHz tests Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello all. Have made some recent mods to the antenna. Reports very welcome. Transmissions during day especially 1630 BST approx and evenings 1930 BST.

Regards from John G3JRL

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48581 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 19:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 19:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 52054 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 19:14:35 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 19:14:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBIVM-000Cse-ME for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:14:32 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBIUK-0003KI-13 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:13:28 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBIUJ-0003K9-93 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:13:27 +0100 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBIU8-0002hR-RS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:13:16 +0100 Received: from [213.122.139.221] (helo=rogersservices) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BBITe-0000fI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:12:46 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rogersservices) Message-ID: <001101c41cd3$ad91b0a0$dd8b7ad5@rogersservices> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003d01c41c91$9e3007c0$60370751@y6m8a2> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:07:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz tests Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Dear John, LF Group,

I monitored the band between about 1930 and 2000BST, but afraid no signal was detected. It is a bit noisy here this evening, but I would expect to at least see your signal on the spectrogram display, so I guess something has gone awry.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----

From: Frederick John Armstrong

To: lf group

Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:15 PM

Subject: LF: 137 kHz tests

Hello all. Have made some recent mods to the antenna. Reports very welcome. Transmissions during day especially 1630 BST approx and evenings 1930 BST.

Regards from John G3JRL

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39694 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 22:08:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 22:08:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 3882 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 22:08:32 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 22:08:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBLDj-0000sm-BC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 22:08:31 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBLCV-0004ep-Jt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:07:15 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBLCV-0004eg-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:07:15 +0100 Received: from uranium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.89]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBLCK-0002ul-KK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:07:04 +0100 Received: from [213.122.109.177] (helo=Main) by uranium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BBLCJ-0006gR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:07:04 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <007d01c41cec$b0c24dc0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:07:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: W & G PS-3 on eBay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi, all those of you who have SPM-3s might be interested in the matching "portable" (batt op) generator to make a matching set. A connection lead between the two will lock the PS-3 output to the SPM-3, making it a useful bridge source and detector for aerial measurements. Not synthasised but that doesnt really matter for measurements. Let me know if you find a manual for it ...I still haven't got one, and I believe Jim and Brian would like copies too. The item number on UK eBay is #3808753698 Cheers de Alan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18679 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 09:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 09:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 75433 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 09:13:36 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 09:13:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBVbI-000INs-Iy for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:13:32 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBVa5-00062Y-Gj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:12:17 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBVa5-00062P-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:12:17 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBVa2-0003iY-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:12:14 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: PCVONWALTER Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-120.fen-net.de [212.204.116.120]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3899Non006349 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (PCVONWALTER) Message-ID: <003801c41d4b$8a9093a0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:26:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id i3899Non006349 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hallo, Alan and All, you can order the manual for SPM-3 from Rainer Förtig, Rieslingstrasse 20, D-64673 Zwingenberg Fone (in Germany) 06251 / 93120, Fax 06251 / 931293 He is also in the internet I got a copy in february for EURO 19.79 The SPM-3 needs 18V DC, 55mA only. I put 2 sockets ( red and blue ) into the case and connected it to the 18V- pins. So I can supply the SPM-3 from a small outside battery pack. Markus, DF6NM, has the same. 73 Walter DJ2LF -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alan Melia An: LF-Group Datum: Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 00:06 Betreff: LF: W & G PS-3 on eBay >Hi, all those of you who have SPM-3s might be interested in the matching >"portable" (batt op) generator to make a matching set. A connection lead >between the two will lock the PS-3 output to the SPM-3, making it a useful >bridge source and detector for aerial measurements. Not synthasised but that >doesnt really matter for measurements. Let me know if you find a manual for >it ...I still haven't got one, and I believe Jim and Brian would like copies >too. >The item number on UK eBay is #3808753698 >Cheers de Alan > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1651 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 10:56:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 10:56:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 60089 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 10:56:02 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 10:55:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBXCP-000FE0-Op for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:55:57 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBXBV-0003JZ-Gh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:01 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBXBU-0003JO-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:00 +0100 Received: from uranium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.89]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBXBR-0003tP-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:54:57 +0100 Received: from [213.122.39.11] (helo=Main) by uranium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BBXBC-0005bQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:54:42 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <000401c41d57$e6396d60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003801c41d4b$8a9093a0$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:54:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Walter thanks for that, I probably was a bit muddled in my posting.....I have a manual for the SPM-3...it is the manual for the PS-3 that I was seeking. Yes I guess that most of them have duff batteries by now. I believe there is enough room in the battery compartment to fabricate a pack out of AA cells, but I have not tried this, because my units still hold charge reasonably well. Thanks and Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Staubach" To: Sent: 08 April 2004 10:26 Subject: LF: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay Hallo, Alan and All, you can order the manual for SPM-3 from Rainer Förtig, Rieslingstrasse 20, D-64673 Zwingenberg Fone (in Germany) 06251 / 93120, Fax 06251 / 931293 He is also in the internet I got a copy in february for EURO 19.79 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5391 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 14:53:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 14:53:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 55277 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 14:53:39 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 14:53:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBauO-000Dw8-7W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:53:36 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBatP-0007bY-Pc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:52:35 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBatP-0007bP-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:52:35 +0100 Received: from smtp.flexi-surf.co.uk ([62.41.128.11] helo=smtp.v21.co.uk) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBatE-0004Dj-PL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:52:24 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: y6m8a2 Received: from y6m8a2 ([217.140.38.20]) by kaliber.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i38Epn329816 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:51:50 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (y6m8a2) Message-ID: <002d01c41d79$82663080$14268cd9@y6m8a2> From: "Frederick John Armstrong" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003d01c41c91$9e3007c0$60370751@y6m8a2> <001101c41cd3$ad91b0a0$dd8b7ad5@rogersservices> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:55:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 137 kHz tests Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello James. Yes something did go awry. I was on at 1630 BST and the power mosfets gave up. So I could not get on at the later time. Thanks a lot for listening. It will be a while before I can get going again as I have no spare mosfets. Will let you know when I get things going again. I did get a report from Alan before the blow-up. 73 and thanks from John, G3JRL

----- Original Message -----

From: James Moritz

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:07 PM

Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz tests

Dear John, LF Group,

I monitored the band between about 1930 and 2000BST, but afraid no signal was detected. It is a bit noisy here this evening, but I would expect to at least see your signal on the spectrogram display, so I guess something has gone awry.

Cheers, Jim Moritz

73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----

From: Frederick John Armstrong

To: lf group

Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:15 PM

Subject: LF: 137 kHz tests

Hello all. Have made some recent mods to the antenna. Reports very welcome. Transmissions during day especially 1630 BST approx and evenings 1930 BST.

Regards from John G3JRL

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 679 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 16:48:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 16:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 66626 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 16:48:00 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 16:47:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBch3-000Gyo-Uf for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:47:58 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBcgA-0005HK-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:47:02 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBcg9-0005HB-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:47:01 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBcfz-0004OV-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:46:51 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: PCVONWALTER Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-069.fen-net.de [212.204.116.69]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i38Gi0on012811 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:44:00 +0200 (MET DST) X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (PCVONWALTER) Message-ID: <001801c41d8b$0dab3440$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:00:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id i38Gi0on012811 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hallo, Alan, ok abt the misunderstanding. No problem. I do not have the original batteries with my SPM-3, so the connection from outside was an easy solution. Good results. 73 Walter -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alan Melia An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 12:53 Betreff: LF: Re: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay >Hi Walter thanks for that, I probably was a bit muddled in my posting.....I >have a manual for the SPM-3...it is the manual for the PS-3 that I was >seeking. Yes I guess that most of them have duff batteries by now. I believe >there is enough room in the battery compartment to fabricate a pack out of >AA cells, but I have not tried this, because my units still hold charge >reasonably well. >Thanks and Cheers de Alan G3NYK > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Walter Staubach" >To: >Sent: 08 April 2004 10:26 >Subject: LF: Re: W & G PS-3 on eBay > > >Hallo, Alan and All, > you can order the manual for SPM-3 from >Rainer Förtig, Rieslingstrasse 20, D-64673 Zwingenberg >Fone (in Germany) 06251 / 93120, Fax 06251 / 931293 >He is also in the internet >I got a copy in february for EURO 19.79 > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15928 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 17:58:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 17:58:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 41445 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 17:58:32 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 17:58:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBdnK-000Aem-LX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:58:30 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBdmO-0000CY-8V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:57:32 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBdmN-0000CP-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:57:31 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBdmD-0004Tb-D3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:57:21 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i38Hv6U8023431 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:57:13 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:57:49 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! 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(v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <878779703.20040408215749@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Comparison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 original - http://iq.73.ru/00005.jpg copy - http://iq.73.ru/00005new.jpg -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71609 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 20:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 20:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 79726 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 20:39:51 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 20:39:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBgJO-000KIn-MQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:39:46 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBgIT-0000FX-0P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:38:49 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBgIS-0000FO-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:38:48 +0100 Received: from cmsrelay01.mx.net ([165.212.11.110]) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBgIN-0004il-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:38:43 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: cmsapps02.cms.usa.net Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.138) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 20:38:10 -0000 Received: from usa.net [151.41.154.244] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 779iDHuMi0095M38; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:38:08 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.41.154.244 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <4075B839.6000007@usa.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:38:17 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <878779703.20040408215749@73.ru> In-Reply-To: <878779703.20040408215749@73.ru> X-Spam-Score: 2.8 (++) X-Spam-Report: FAKE_HELO_USA_NET=2.8 Subject: Re: LF: Comparison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FAKE_HELO_USA_NET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Nice. Is that the result of an embossing filter, as offered e.g. by Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro ? 73 Alberto I2PHD ---------------------------------------- rn6bn wrote: > original - http://iq.73.ru/00005.jpg > copy - http://iq.73.ru/00005new.jpg > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 33108 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 22:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 22:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17455 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 22:03:15 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 22:03:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBhc6-000461-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 23:03:10 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBhbI-0004U1-4K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 23:02:20 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBhbG-0004Ts-Qg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 23:02:18 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBhbC-0004pX-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 23:02:15 +0100 Received: from web4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040408220131.WDFT17934.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@web4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:01:31 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.80.110]) by web4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040408220114.KYKQ13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:01:14 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <000301c41db5$02a32970$6e5037d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c41a32$35326a80$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:00:34 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030401050806010504080100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030401050806010504080100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I observed this signal centred on 138.83kHz for 4 hours last night. Is it possibly DCF39? 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1BBiWO-0004uJ-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:01:20 +0100 Received: from [213.122.214.162] (helo=Main) by zinc.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BBiWN-0002pH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:01:20 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <001601c41dbd$7271c6a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c41a32$35326a80$6507a8c0@Main> <000301c41db5$02a32970$6e5037d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:01:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Mike, It could be, DCF39 is a 24/7 signal, and the spreading looks like that Laurence was reporting in Anchorage, and is due to the "randon" return of the carrier phase after data bursts ( Markus DF6NM has explained in previous posts) Possibly also some spreading effect due to the keying. It will be very difficult to get a solid ID although I am not aware of anything else on that channel. It has been received in Anchorage, Ghana, Puerto Rico, Mexico. At the dot speed you are using (120sec ??) you will not be able to see the data bursts These are FSK and with a shift of about 280Hz I think...but I would have to check on that. It would be interesting to see at what the fastest dot speed you could see the signal would be. The other check is to try to determine (geoclock ?? or better a Great Circle clock map) whether there was darkness between you and Magdeburg during that period. It may be a polar path. If it is DCF39, I would think dawn at your end and Magdeburg should correlate fairly well with the reception times. Very interesting please do let us know what you find. This might be the furthest confirmed reception....I believe a report was made some years ago (VK or ZL??), I am not sure whether it could be confirmed or stays as a "possible" Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "McAlevey" To: Sent: 08 April 2004 23:00 Subject: LF: DCF39 > I observed this signal centred on 138.83kHz for 4 hours last night. Is it > possibly DCF39? > > Mike ZL4OL > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86094 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:36:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 84521 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:36:24 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:36:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBkwQ-000Lri-Vs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:36:23 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBkvW-0006iO-8C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:35:26 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBkvV-0006iA-1u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:35:25 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBkvR-00056L-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:35:21 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040409013448.SNIJ17934.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:34:48 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.197.129]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040409013447.EOF26464.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:34:47 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <000201c41dd2$d7eb8290$81c536d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c41a32$35326a80$6507a8c0@Main> <000301c41db5$02a32970$6e5037d2@mcalevey> <001601c41dbd$7271c6a0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:34:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Alan, thanks for the information on DCF39. We do have a dark path to Magdeburg but only for an hour or so and the signal certainly peaked strongly over that time and disappeared smartly at our sunrise. However, it first appeared weakly at 1610Z when Magdeburg would still be well in daylight. I will reduce the dot length setting progressively over a few nights and report the results. I think the earlier report of possible DCF39 reception was by Steve Olney in VK. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30136 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:44:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21320 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:44:42 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:44:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBl4T-0005QJ-F5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:44:41 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBl3t-0007Ny-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:44:05 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBl3t-0007Np-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:44:05 +0100 Received: from bay12-f110.bay12.hotmail.com ([64.4.35.110] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBl3p-00056t-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:44:01 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:43:30 -0700 Received: from 24.116.199.45 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:43:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.199.45] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:43:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2004 01:43:30.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F4D4150:01C41DD4] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: TW_PP=0.077 Subject: RE: LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Mike at dot 60 normal on Argo and weak it looks like a spreaded mostly filled in 0.1 Hz wide carrier signal. As it gets stronger (if) sideband "noiz" appears and bars above/below the main signal appx 0.1Hz +- If I could only find my diskdrive from my old Laptop Id cut a jpeg file from Costa Rica for you....but I cant find a lot of things at the moment. I hate moving houses.... Nothing else on the channel around the globe that Ive heard so far.... Laurence KL1X/5 Bartlesville Oklahoma, LF aerials go up this next weekend.. _________________________________________________________________ Limited-time offer: Fast, reliable MSN 9 Dial-up Internet access FREE for 2 months! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&pgmarket=en-us&ST=1/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70264 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 35663 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 01:48:12 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 01:48:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBl7r-00094u-4q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:48:11 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBl7P-0007e3-GX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:47:43 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBl7P-0007du-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:47:43 +0100 Received: from bay12-f35.bay12.hotmail.com ([64.4.35.35] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBl7L-00057N-Ss for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:47:40 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:47:08 -0700 Received: from 24.116.199.45 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.199.45] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:47:08 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2004 01:47:08.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[9189DCA0:01C41DD4] X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.567 Subject: RE: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Yep Mike, it looks like DCF39 to me....not many signals have that signature Perfect. Laurence >From: "McAlevey" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: DCF39 >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:00:34 +1200 > >I observed this signal centred on 138.83kHz for 4 hours last night. Is it >possibly DCF39? > >Mike ZL4OL ><< DCF39maybe.JPG >> _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 42242 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 02:49:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 02:49:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29974 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 02:49:11 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 02:49:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBm4q-0007MX-P7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:49:08 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBm3x-0001rn-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:48:13 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBm3w-0001re-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:48:12 +0100 Received: from mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.219]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBm3t-0005B4-Bk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:48:09 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: johncellarnew Received: from johncellarnew (cpe-68-118-232-30.ma.charter.com [68.118.232.30]) by mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i392epPJ036822 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 22:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002401c41dd3$b7118460$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c41a32$35326a80$6507a8c0@Main> <000301c41db5$02a32970$6e5037d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 02:41:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=0.837,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070204010607060104010306" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070204010607060104010306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Mike,

This is how it looks in the Eastern U.S. on an Argo 120 second screen. I'd say that we are looking at the same signal.

John Andrews, W1TAG

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X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <37360859.20040409084504@73.ru> To: Alberto di Bene In-reply-To: <4075B839.6000007@usa.net> References: <878779703.20040408215749@73.ru> <4075B839.6000007@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re[2]: LF: Comparison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Alberto, Yes, this effect use much programs, I used Microsoft Photo Editor. Friday, April 09, 2004, 12:38:17 AM, you wrote: AdB> Nice. Is that the result of an embossing filter, as offered e.g. by AdB> Photoshop AdB> or Paint Shop Pro ? AdB> 73 Alberto I2PHD AdB> ---------------------------------------- AdB> rn6bn wrote: >> original - http://iq.73.ru/00005.jpg >> copy - http://iq.73.ru/00005new.jpg >> >> >> -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89180 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 10:18:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 10:18:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 66946 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 10:18:14 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 10:18:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBt5Q-000HGr-Tm for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:18:13 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBt4Q-0007Z9-St for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:17:10 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBt4Q-0007Z0-C7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:17:10 +0100 Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.176]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBt4L-0005nK-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:17:05 +0100 Received: from [213.122.192.187] (helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BBt4K-0002Wd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:17:04 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <000001c41e1b$cfebbda0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:42:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_KM=0.077 Subject: LF: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi again Mike, there seems to be a concensus that you have a trace of DCF39.....well done !! It is not absolutely necessary for both ends to be in darkness for the path to exist. First it is the position of darkness at 100kms altitude that seems to be important. Then the path will probably exist if the darkness line is not more than 1000kms away (approximately the length of a "half hop"). I have received traces from Joe VO1NA when the night-time shadow was only in mid-Atlantic, suggesting that a daytime D-layer hop (or maybe two) was responsible for the first stage of the path. Signals were much weaker in this period, than later when the darkness covered the path. The path normally opens around the time that the ground shadow reaches Newfoundland and closes about an hour after (ground)dawn in the UK., though an east to west path can linger longer in winter. Conditions whilst not "very-good" at the moment, are not too bad ...a bit of a "curate's egg" There should be better nights in the coming few years. This puts up a challenge to amateurs, though it must be remembered that DCF39 has around a 36dB advantage over most stations. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56840 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 11:06:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 11:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 37525 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 11:06:18 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 11:06:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBtpw-0009cw-Ma for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:06:16 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBtp5-0001cV-QI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:05:23 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBtp5-0001cM-4A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:05:23 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBtp1-0005r0-F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:05:19 +0100 Received: from web3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040409110446.DAJJ4338.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@web3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 23:04:46 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.37.199]) by web3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040409110445.MGXZ3175.web3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 23:04:45 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <000201c41e22$77dc63b0$c72537d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c41e1b$cfebbda0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 23:04:04 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Alan, yes, it appears very likely that DCF39 is reaching us. As far as I can ascertain the first traces appeared when the gray line was about Moscow; maybe 2000km from Magdeburg? That 36dB advantage of DCF39 looks like a big hurdle to overcome. However the signal was very strong at the 60 second dot setting and also the keying sidebands were quite clear and there can't be much energy in those relative to the carrier. I will try the 20 second dot setting tonight. Bob ZL2CA will also be watching. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38233 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 12:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 12:35:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 72389 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 12:35:20 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 12:35:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBvE7-000IYz-3P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:35:19 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvD7-0006qa-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:17 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvD6-0006qR-M9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:16 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBvD3-0005xC-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7824C2D7 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598FC4C3EF for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Fake-Domain: dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5D938005A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20040409143308.01d9a230@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:38:25 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000201c41e22$77dc63b0$c72537d2@mcalevey> References: <000001c41e1b$cfebbda0$6507a8c0@Main> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: Re: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Mike and Alan, EIRP of DCF39 is about 40kW (+/-46dBW), so ERP about 44dBW Few hams reach the 1 W ERP limit , most are even 6..10dB weaker. So the "gap" is at least 44dB maybe even up to 50dB. More about DCF39 : http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html 73, Rik At 23:04 9/04/2004 +1200, you wrote: >Alan, > >yes, it appears very likely that DCF39 is reaching us. As far as I can >ascertain the first traces appeared when the gray line was about Moscow; >maybe 2000km from Magdeburg? > >That 36dB advantage of DCF39 looks like a big hurdle to overcome. However >the signal was very strong at the 60 second dot setting and also the keying >sidebands were quite clear and there can't be much energy in those relative >to the carrier. I will try the 20 second dot setting tonight. Bob ZL2CA will >also be watching. > >Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77635 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 13:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 13:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 68145 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 13:05:19 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 13:05:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BBvh7-000HbM-TC for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:05:18 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvgP-0007SA-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:04:33 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvgP-0007S1-Aw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:04:33 +0100 Received: from smtp.flexi-surf.co.uk ([62.41.128.11] helo=smtp.v21.co.uk) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBvgG-0005zd-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:04:24 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: y6m8a2 Received: from y6m8a2 (host81-7-57-153.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.57.153]) by kaliber.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i39D3o300465 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:03:50 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (y6m8a2) Message-ID: <001701c41e33$97cee2e0$99390751@y6m8a2> From: "Frederick John Armstrong" To: "lf group" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:40:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_30_40=0.809,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: 137kHz tests Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hello all. Unfortunately I have had to suspend my tests. During one of the scheduled transmissions my transmitter failed. Looks like the mosfets. For those of you who have been looking for my transmissions please accept my appologies. I will let you know when I can resume testing.

73 and regards from John. G3JRL

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37944 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 15:47:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 15:47:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15539 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 15:47:52 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 15:47:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BByER-0003s5-1s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:47:51 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BByDS-0007RP-Fx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:46:50 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BByDR-0007RG-VU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:46:50 +0100 Received: from deet.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.29]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BByDO-0006Ca-Jf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:46:46 +0100 Received: from [213.122.201.165] (helo=Main) by deet.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BByDN-0001jn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:46:45 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <001601c41e49$dd845660$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c41e1b$cfebbda0$6507a8c0@Main> <000201c41e22$77dc63b0$c72537d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:46:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_KM=0.077 Subject: LF: Re: Re: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi David, Whoops I slipped 10dB !! Thanks Rik. That path does sound possible. there will be a lot of loss in the daylight parts.....which is good news for the time of the year there might be a full darkness path. It will be really interesting if you can detect the signal at slower speeds. I think Laurence was able to get a good trace at 3 sec mode at 6000kms over the pole, on good days. Steve Dove W3EEE has not had very good signals for the last two nights, so conditions are too good at present. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "McAlevey" To: Sent: 09 April 2004 12:04 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 in ZL again > Alan, > > yes, it appears very likely that DCF39 is reaching us. As far as I can > ascertain the first traces appeared when the gray line was about Moscow; > maybe 2000km from Magdeburg? > > That 36dB advantage of DCF39 looks like a big hurdle to overcome. However > the signal was very strong at the 60 second dot setting and also the keying > sidebands were quite clear and there can't be much energy in those relative > to the carrier. I will try the 20 second dot setting tonight. Bob ZL2CA will > also be watching. > > Mike ZL4OL > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35473 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:04:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1292 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:04:30 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:04:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BC2El-000Pva-TQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:04:28 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2Dj-0003zM-MX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:03:23 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2Di-0003zD-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:03:22 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC2Df-0006bm-FD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:03:19 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040409200245.YPSY17934.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:45 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.65.39]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040409200242.URNY6422.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:42 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:07 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: DCF39 again Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070806000904020805050004" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070806000904020805050004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks to all for the interest and comments. I ran argo at the 20 second setting overnight on 138.83. For some reason I woke a little before dawn and seeing a good signal changed to the 3 second setting. The trace shows a steady carrier with short gaps at roughly 10 second intervals. The signal faded rapidly at sunrise. 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from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2Ow-0004ZT-Mu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:14:58 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2Ow-0004ZK-9q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:14:58 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC2Ot-0006dC-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:14:55 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC2B4BD02 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB89F4BCC6 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:14:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A5638018C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:14:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 206.204-201-80.adsl.skynet.be (206.204-201-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.201.204.206]) by webmail2.kuleuven.be (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:14:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:14:22 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> In-Reply-To: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 80.201.204.206 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Mike, DCF39 is transmitting a carrier with every 10 seconds or so a kind of "RTTY burst". That might be the gaps you're seeing. The 3 sec picture looks really nice, did you check if the signal was audible ? 73, Rik ON7YD > Thanks to all for the interest and comments. I ran argo at the 20 > second > setting overnight on 138.83. For some reason I woke a little before > dawn and > seeing a good signal changed to the 3 second setting. The trace shows > a > steady carrier with short gaps at roughly 10 second intervals. The > signal > faded rapidly at sunrise. > > Mike ZL4OL > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57593 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22278 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:22:19 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:22:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BC2W1-0005eB-UT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:22:18 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2VM-0004s9-QB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:21:36 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC2VM-0004s0-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:21:36 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC2VI-0006dt-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:21:33 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040409202100.WTF1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:21:00 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.37.235]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040409202059.EWHQ26464.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:20:59 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:20:22 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hello Rik, I imagined at one point that I could hear data bursts. Unforunately I have strong power line carrier signals very close to the frequency which makes listening difficult. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1016 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:59:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:59:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 90836 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 20:59:02 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 20:59:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BC35Y-000NOw-Nt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:59:00 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC34t-0006YR-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:58:19 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC34s-0006YI-Sb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:58:18 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC34p-0006hU-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:58:15 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040409205736.CFUW25427.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz>; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:57:36 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040409205736.FBIM26464.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3>; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:57:36 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <000f01c41e75$4d382ab0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "McAlevey" References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:57:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: DCF39 in Wellington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi all, I checked overnight with 60 second dot length, and did get a signal on 138.83 kHz, but it seems not as good as Mike ZL4OL reports (he is about 550 km SW of me). Signals were first detected at about 1620 UTC, got fairly strong by 1815, and ended around 1900 (my sunrise). I got a "line" with a bandwidth of about 0.2 Hz. I'll check again in subsequent nights with 10 second dot length. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27279 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 57806 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:07:23 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:07:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BC3De-000EoX-Ix for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:07:22 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3D0-0007em-7J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:06:42 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3Cx-0007ed-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:06:39 +0100 Received: from einsteinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.147]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC3Cp-0006i2-O6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:06:31 +0100 Received: from [213.122.29.54] (helo=rogersservices) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BC3Cn-0000Vp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:06:30 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rogersservices) Message-ID: <001901c41e75$e4c466a0$361d7ad5@rogersservices> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:01:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Dear Mike, LF Group, You could try DCF39's sister station (DCF49 I think) with mark frequency on 128.93kHz - It has the same format of transmitting a carrier on the mark frequency with FSK data bursts at intervals of several seconds. I Imagine the propagation will be very similar. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: McAlevey To: Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 again > Hello Rik, > > I imagined at one point that I could hear data bursts. Unforunately I have > strong power line carrier signals very close to the frequency which makes > listening difficult. > > Mike ZL4OL > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2218 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:18:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 37634 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:18:51 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:18:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BC3Ok-0009Yy-2e for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:18:50 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3O3-0007m8-Fi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:18:07 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3O2-0007lz-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:18:07 +0100 Received: from zinc.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.148]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC3O0-0006jH-5C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:18:04 +0100 Received: from [213.122.63.200] (helo=Main) by zinc.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BC3Nz-0006gY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:18:03 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <001b01c41e78$26347f60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:17:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 again...definitely !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Mike WOW that proves it nicely. DCF39 sends bursts of data at varying intervals between about 10 and 20 seconds apart. I think there are about 13 chars at 300Bd so the burst is usually about a second I think...the real info is on Geri's site. Well done indeed, conditions are still not that good. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" Sent: 09 April 2004 21:02 Subject: LF: DCF39 again > Thanks to all for the interest and comments. I ran argo at the 20 second > setting overnight on 138.83. For some reason I woke a little before dawn and > seeing a good signal changed to the 3 second setting. The trace shows a > steady carrier with short gaps at roughly 10 second intervals. The signal > faded rapidly at sunrise. > > Mike ZL4OL > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6467 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:23:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 47597 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:23:19 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:23:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BC3T4-000CGV-Gs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:23:18 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3SU-0007qz-A8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:22:42 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC3ST-0007qq-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:22:42 +0100 Received: from zinc.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.148]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC3SR-0006jd-2D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:22:39 +0100 Received: from [213.122.63.200] (helo=Main) by zinc.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BC3SQ-0007KS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:22:38 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <002901c41e78$ca307a60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:22:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Brian...wheelbarrow punctured !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Brian posted in the usual place Alan From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49761 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 22:09:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 22:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 76571 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 22:09:01 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 22:09:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BC4BI-000JnB-FO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:09:00 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BC4AS-0002G5-3U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:08:08 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BC4AR-0002Fw-4h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:08:07 +0100 Received: from bay12-f20.bay12.hotmail.com ([64.4.35.20] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC4AM-0006nH-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:08:02 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 15:07:30 -0700 Received: from 24.116.116.38 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:07:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.116.38] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:07:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2004 22:07:30.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D6D4000:01C41E7F] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: TW_KM=0.077 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Up till around 15 March or so DCF39 was just about visible to some extent +24 hours in Anchorage over a +-7300Kms path, give or take the occasional blast from the sun, but daylight is rapidly increasing at some 6 mins per day and looking at my records the path openings are getting much shorter now. It wont be long before the the onlly time I see DCF39 is when the sun throws a large daylight X ray event at gives me that extra few dBs to make it visiible.... (this is being written in a historical sense as Im being dumped/fried upon here in Oklahoma and not freezing my buttress off in Anchorage) Ill take a look for DCF here tonite here in /5 land as we have the station up and running on Rx to some extent. Laurence KL1X/5 EM26AQ now some 7800Kms away.... >From: "Alan Melia" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: Re: Re: DCF39 in ZL again >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:46:38 +0100 > >Hi David, Whoops I slipped 10dB !! Thanks Rik. That path does sound >possible. there will be a lot of loss in the daylight parts.....which is >good news for the time of the year there might be a full darkness path. It >will be really interesting if you can detect the signal at slower speeds. I >think Laurence was able to get a good trace at 3 sec mode at 6000kms over >the pole, on good days. Steve Dove W3EEE has not had very good signals for >the last two nights, so conditions are too good at present. >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "McAlevey" >To: >Sent: 09 April 2004 12:04 >Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 in ZL again > > > > Alan, > > > > yes, it appears very likely that DCF39 is reaching us. As far as I can > > ascertain the first traces appeared when the gray line was about Moscow; > > maybe 2000km from Magdeburg? > > > > That 36dB advantage of DCF39 looks like a big hurdle to overcome. >However > > the signal was very strong at the 60 second dot setting and also the >keying > > sidebands were quite clear and there can't be much energy in those >relative > > to the carrier. I will try the 20 second dot setting tonight. Bob ZL2CA >will > > also be watching. > > > > Mike ZL4OL > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25442 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2004 05:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 05:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12188 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2004 05:41:22 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 05:41:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCBF1-00032x-UB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:41:20 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCBDa-00019O-OI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 06:39:50 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCBDZ-00019F-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 06:39:49 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCBDW-0007Sy-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 06:39:46 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040410053912.EUPF17934.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:39:12 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040410053912.WKAV6422.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:39:12 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <002401c41ebe$2cd23650$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000f01c41e75$4d382ab0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:39:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Pic of capture Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030105040903020009000200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030105040903020009000200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, See below a pic of what I captured on 138.83 kHz with 60 second dot length last night. 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<000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:23:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 The signal on 138.83 was detected again last night, first seen at 1600Z, very strong from 1800Z through till sunrise here using only QRSS3 settings. The bursts of data on the space frequency were also seen. Using a 100Hz bandpass filter in Spectran gave good audible copy till well after sunrise. Unfortunately my wav recording included the unfiltered signal for some reason. I'm not sure about the technicalities but this signal appeared to be 60dB above the dark background bits in argo set to 60 second dots. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40259 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2004 21:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 21:17:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 79040 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2004 21:17:09 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 21:17:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCPqb-000KKi-Vr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:17:06 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCPpl-0001Dg-In for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:16:13 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCPpk-0001DX-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:16:12 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCPpg-00007S-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:16:08 +0100 Received: from web1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040410211535.CHFN4338.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@web1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:15:35 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040410211534.NXXK18916.web1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:15:34 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <003e01c41f40$fae7f4d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:15:36 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020004050700090202020107" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020004050700090202020107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, A signal on 138.83 kHz got stronger approaching ZL sunrise. A weak trace started from about 1715 UTC. See the 1854 UTC capture (which includes scales and time) for 10 second dot length. It looks like 10 second data bursts are there when it was strongest (left side of the line on the attachment). Sunrise is nominally at capture time. 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X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16947522843.20040411085928@73.ru> To: McAlevey In-reply-To: <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA! Have you time to listen my TX beacon today? Time - 16:00 - 19:00 UTC 11.04.2004 Mode - QRSS60, Frequncy - 137703 Hz Sorry, your E-address xtra.co.nz does not answer (it is blocked here in south to Russia) -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn KN95LC http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/ mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5473 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:34:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:34:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6780 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:34:01 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:34:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCXbU-0001dr-28 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:34:00 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXam-0005i5-3m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:33:16 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXal-0005hw-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:33:15 +0100 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCXah-0002F3-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:33:12 +0100 Received: from web4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040411053239.OXLD17934.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@web4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:32:39 +1200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by web4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:32:39 +1200 X-Originating-IP: [210.54.197.187] From: mcalevey@xtra.co.nz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:32:39 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: NO_REAL_NAME=0.285,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: RN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 > Sam, sorry but I am out of town today. I hope to listen tomorrow or Tuesday. Good luck. Mike ZL4OL > Hello Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA! > > Have you time to listen my TX beacon today? > Time - 16:00 - 19:00 UTC 11.04.2004 > Mode - QRSS60, > Frequncy - 137703 Hz > > > > > Sorry, your E-address xtra.co.nz does not answer (it is > blocked here in south to Russia) > > -- > Best regards, > Sam, rn6bn KN95LC http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/ mailto:rn6bn@73.ru > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 82578 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:39:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 91023 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:39:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:39:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCXh0-000NYs-21 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:39:42 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXgP-00069z-7w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:39:05 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXgO-00069q-Qk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:39:04 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCXgL-0002FY-G4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:39:01 +0100 Received: from web2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040411053825.WRJZ1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@web2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:38:25 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040411053825.OOIB20540.web2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:38:25 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:38:30 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: RN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Sam, OK, I'll listen out tonight. 73, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: LF: RN beacon > > > > Sam, > > sorry but I am out of town today. I hope to listen tomorrow or Tuesday. Good luck. > > Mike ZL4OL > > > Hello Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA! > > > > Have you time to listen my TX beacon today? > > Time - 16:00 - 19:00 UTC 11.04.2004 > > > > Mode - QRSS60, > > Frequncy - 137703 Hz > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, your E-address xtra.co.nz does not answer (it is > > blocked here in south to Russia) > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Sam, rn6bn KN95LC http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/ mailto:rn6bn@73.ru > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18438 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:57:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 48275 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 05:57:45 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 05:57:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCXyS-000CQM-QI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:57:44 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXxP-0007IJ-E5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:56:39 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCXxO-0007IA-Tm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:56:38 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCXxM-0002Gk-09 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:56:36 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3B5uXU8019127 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:56:33 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:57:12 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> To: Vernall In-reply-To: <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: TW_TN=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 V> OK, I'll listen out tonight. V> 73, Bob Ok, tnx Bob -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14185 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 09:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 09:35:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 54565 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 09:35:05 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 09:35:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCbMm-000E4N-BM for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:35:04 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCbLr-0003Xh-Gq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:34:07 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCbLq-0003XY-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:34:07 +0100 Received: from mail.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCbLo-0002TC-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:34:04 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: jboi0045tiscali Received: from jboi0045tiscali (212.47.237.40) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.036) id 4071231200D8E8C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:33:32 +0200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (jboi0045tiscali) Message-ID: <005701c41fa7$9f896e40$28ed2fd4@jboi0045tiscali> From: "F6CWN" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> <16947522843.20040411085928@73.ru> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:30:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rn6bn" To: "McAlevey" Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:59 AM Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 > Hello Mike ZL4OL and Bob ZL2CA! > > Have you time to listen my TX beacon today? > Time - 16:00 - 19:00 UTC 11.04.2004 > Mode - QRSS60, > Frequncy - 137703 Hz > > > > > Sorry, your E-address xtra.co.nz does not answer (it is > blocked here in south to Russia) > > -- > Best regards, > Sam, rn6bn KN95LC http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/ mailto:rn6bn@73.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11./04/2004 0903z Hello Sam and the list, Congratulations for your super station and DX too! I will listen to you also from JN09TT (near the see border). Equipement at this time: 40 meter QUAD ( 10 X 10m) and selective voltmeter SPM3 (W&G) or D2019 (Siemens). My equipment is not at the top of the art, but i am new here. VHF to LF , is a great step for me! :0) VY 73 and see you soon. Jeff / F6CWN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9145 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 12:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 12:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 88846 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 12:41:40 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 12:41:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCeHK-000MwO-Ob for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:41:38 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCeGS-0005Oj-2U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:40:44 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCeGR-0005Oa-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:40:43 +0100 Received: from mta2-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.42]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCeGO-0002ej-UB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:40:40 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.25]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040411124040.YRHC29792.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:40:40 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c41fad$f9baf900$19e9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:15:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: D2155 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi All

Does anyone have a cct for the Siemens D2155 Level Meter. What is the IF freq(s). I would like to make a connection to the IF and then use an ext RX to tune across this output for 137 khz.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 72167 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 17:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 17:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 41498 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 17:43:03 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 17:43:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCiz0-000Afz-AF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:43:02 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCiy5-0005CF-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:42:05 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCiy5-0005C6-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:42:05 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCiy2-00032Q-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:42:02 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3BHfsU8073872 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:41:54 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:42:38 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153965531.20040411214238@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-To: <005701c41fa7$9f896e40$28ed2fd4@jboi0045tiscali> References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> <16947522843.20040411085928@73.ru> <005701c41fa7$9f896e40$28ed2fd4@jboi0045tiscali> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re[2]: LF: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Jeff, TNX for mail. I shall have happiness to see my signal on your picture. Always ready for our QSO. F> Hello Sam and the list, F> Congratulations for your super station and DX too! F> I will listen to you also from JN09TT (near the see border). F> Equipement at this time: F> 40 meter QUAD ( 10 X 10m) and selective voltmeter SPM3 (W&G) F> or D2019 (Siemens). F> My equipment is not at the top of the art, but i am new here. F> VHF to LF , is a great step for me! :0) F> VY 73 and see you soon. F> Jeff / F6CWN -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79059 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 17:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 17:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 46794 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 17:52:02 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 17:52:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCj7h-000C3S-9u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:52:01 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCj78-0005Vi-C8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:51:26 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCj77-0005VX-Rx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:51:25 +0100 Received: from mta3-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.43]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCj75-00033N-0J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:51:23 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.46]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040411175122.EZD18790.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:51:22 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c41fd9$62225d00$2ee9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:26:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_20_30=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: RN6BN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

RN6BN has been very strong all afternoon since 1616z both visual and aural. M0BMU joined him a few hz away and also very strong at the present time 1742z. To my West VO1NA is always very strong every morning going into daylight.

Antenna 80m perimiter loop E/W resonated for 137 khz band. These signals are even stronger on my vertical.

Predictions are useful as a guide but it all depends on the antenna, except there happens to be a nuclear blast, like I have expericenced down in the Pacific Islands during the late 1960's with tests from Xmas Island and Johnston Is. I was in the area at the time for a few months.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

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V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030506010907010609020005" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030506010907010609020005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sam RN6BN, I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call sign, in the period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start of the 6 in the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of the 6 and BN. 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Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009201c42003$f16ed5e0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> In-Reply-To: <009201c42003$f16ed5e0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 80.201.44.117 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,UPPERCASE_25_50=0.261 Subject: Re: LF: Second capture of RB6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Sam, Bob, congrats to both ! KN95LC -> RE78IR = 16464 km Should be the first European signal copied in ZL. 73, Rik ON7YD > Sam RN6BN, > > See the second capture. > > 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12409 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:44:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:44:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 97188 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:44:04 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:44:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCloA-000P33-GY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:44:02 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BClnl-0007ax-EO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:43:37 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BClnl-0007ao-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:43:37 +0100 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.146]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BClnh-0003GO-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:43:34 +0100 Received: from web2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040411204302.SBJT3724.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@web2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:02 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040411204301.THAT20540.web2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:01 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <00ba01c42005$9d9e2950$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009201c42003$f16ed5e0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:14 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Typo in call sign of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Sam RN6BN, My apology for the error in the subject line of earlier email, the RB6BN should of course be RN6BN. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37093 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:48:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16363 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:48:15 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 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11 Apr 2004 20:47:08 -0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (ibm) Message-ID: <001101c42004$ddb681a0$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:36:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.25.0.2; VDF: 6.25.0.10; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: a step further towards 136kHz?????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hello all, I nearly finished my 50V/15A cont. powersupply. Coming week I'll do some tests to see if it works well. Unfortunatly I can't test the current limiter, as I doesn't have a suitable dummyload..... I think this was one of the most time consuming parts to built. Next step will be building the G0MRF transmitter. Meanwhile I received some FET's etc, but I'm still missing some of the difficult parts, like the TC4426, H11L1 (optocoupler) and the 3C85/3C85 cores. I really can't get them here. Anyone in a Euro-country who can help me to get them for a reasonable price?? Dick, pa4vhf From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40186 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:52:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 31768 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:52:03 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:52:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BClvu-00088w-1Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:52:02 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BClvK-0007z2-W7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:51:26 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BClvK-0007yo-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:51:26 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BClvH-0003Hc-Jp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:51:23 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3BKpEU8089419 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:51:15 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:52:00 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17412327109.20040412005200@73.ru> To: Vernall In-reply-To: <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Bob! Very very TNX for nice report. Always ready experience for continuation. Hope on QSO with ZM2E in the future (springtime or summer) Monday, April 12, 2004, 12:30:07 AM, you wrote: V> Sam RN6BN, V> I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call sign, in the V> period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start of the 6 in V> the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of the 6 and V> BN. Capture times were 1822 UTC and 1918 UTC, and sunrise is nominally 1851 V> UTC. V> 73, Bob ZL2CA -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26298 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 65122 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 20:58:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 20:58:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCm2W-000Gop-NX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:58:52 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCm1u-0008F5-DQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:58:14 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCm1u-0008Ew-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:58:14 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCm1r-0003IR-4b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:58:11 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3BKw2U8089991 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:58:02 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:58:48 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! 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(v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13012734796.20040412005848@73.ru> To: Vernall In-reply-To: <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Bob pse send for me full Argo screen, 2 files. -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 45054 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 73360 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:04:14 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:04:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCm7g-000Isv-GZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:04:12 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCm76-0008PP-3b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:03:36 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCm75-0008PG-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:03:35 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCm71-0003Iz-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:03:31 +0100 Received: from web1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040411210205.RLTS1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@web1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:02:05 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040411210204.THIA18916.web1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:02:04 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <00d901c42008$46fdec90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <17412327109.20040412005200@73.ru> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:02:17 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Sam, OK on all comments. From Rik's message, a distance of 16464 km is further than VE1ZJ receiving the ZL6QH beacon (15645 km). 73, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "rn6bn" To: "Vernall" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN > Hello Bob! > > Very very TNX for nice report. > Always ready experience for continuation. > Hope on QSO with ZM2E in the future (springtime or summer) > > Monday, April 12, 2004, 12:30:07 AM, you wrote: > > V> Sam RN6BN, > > V> I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call sign, in the > V> period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start of the 6 in > V> the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of the 6 and > V> BN. Capture times were 1822 UTC and 1918 UTC, and sunrise is nominally 1851 > V> UTC. > > V> 73, Bob ZL2CA > > > > -- > Best regards, > Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61855 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 81870 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:21:49 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:21:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCmOi-000LAE-De for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:21:48 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmNi-0000uy-DY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:20:46 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmNh-0000up-VB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:20:46 +0100 Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.42]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCmNf-0003Kh-4k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:20:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64081D7DC1 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1041D7DE9 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D766AEE0C for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 117.44-201-80.adsl.skynet.be (117.44-201-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.201.44.117]) by webmail2.kuleuven.be (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:20:11 +0200 Message-ID: <1081718411.4079b68b35557@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:20:11 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <17412327109.20040412005200@73.ru> <00d901c42008$46fdec90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> In-Reply-To: <00d901c42008$46fdec90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 80.201.44.117 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi Bob, it seems indeed a new 137 kHz record. And further : the RN6BN - ZL2CA path is about 50% over land, at the RN6BN side the path goes over south-west Asia and India before it reaches the sea (guess about 5000km from RN6BN). 73, Rik ON7YD > Sam, > > OK on all comments. From Rik's message, a distance of 16464 km is > further > than VE1ZJ receiving the ZL6QH beacon (15645 km). > > 73, Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rn6bn" > To: "Vernall" > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN > > > > Hello Bob! > > > > Very very TNX for nice report. > > Always ready experience for continuation. > > Hope on QSO with ZM2E in the future (springtime or summer) > > > > Monday, April 12, 2004, 12:30:07 AM, you wrote: > > > > V> Sam RN6BN, > > > > V> I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call > sign, in > the > > V> period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start > of the 6 > in > > V> the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of > the 6 > and > > V> BN. Capture times were 1822 UTC and 1918 UTC, and sunrise is > nominally > 1851 > > V> UTC. > > > > V> 73, Bob ZL2CA > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49645 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:23:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:23:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 90244 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:23:27 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:23:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCmQI-000NE0-NQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:23:26 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmPp-0001ez-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:22:57 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmPp-0001ep-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:22:57 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCmPm-0003LA-8Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:22:54 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3BLMjU8092396 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:22:45 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:23:31 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! 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(v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10614217859.20040412012331@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-To: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: Full Argo pics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 TNX for pictures, Bob. http://iq.73.ru/capt00286.jpg http://iq.73.ru/capt00287.jpg http://iq.73.ru/capt00288.jpg http://iq.73.ru/capt00289.jpg My TX frequency 16-17z 137702, 17-19z 137702.5 Monday, April 12, 2004, 1:05:36 AM, you wrote: V> Sam, V> I'm delighted to send you my captures. I've attached four files, so you can V> look at earlier times as well, but suffix 288 and 289 are the "good ones" hi V> hi. V> 73, Bob -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 66179 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:37:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 46663 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 21:37:33 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 21:37:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCmdv-000C16-9f for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:37:31 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmdD-0002h1-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:36:47 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCmdC-0002gs-L8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 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charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Sam, You said: > My TX frequency 16-17z 137702, 17-19z 137702.5 My frequency calibration (TS-850 with very good VCTCXO) is for Argo 803 Hz corresponding to 137.703 kHz, and should be better than 0.1 Hz. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12702 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2004 22:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2004 22:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 69227 invoked from network); 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Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (jsm) Message-ID: <002901c42009$deb1b840$4911f4cc@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <17412327109.20040412005200@73.ru> <00d901c42008$46fdec90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <1081718411.4079b68b35557@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:13:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Truly remarkable. Another great milestone for radio amateurs on LF! Congrats to Sam and Bob. Steve / VE7SL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38507 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 01:03:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 01:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 56455 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 01:03:40 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 01:03:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCprP-000EZV-K3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:03:39 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCpqF-0004jt-7Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:27 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCpqE-0004jX-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:26 +0100 Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.176]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCpqB-0004JS-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:23 +0100 Received: from [81.131.204.107] (helo=rogersservices) by protactinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BCpqA-0002LO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:22 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rogersservices) Message-ID: <005101c42029$2c83ce40$6bcc8351@rogersservices> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:57:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Dear LF Group, Very good... looking at the map, this looks like it must be the new one-way distance record. It is interesting that both UA0LE and RN6BN have put good signals into ZL, but although the distance from western Europe to New Zealand os not that much greater, no signals over that path seem to have been copied, despite several attempts. Thanks for the reports on my beacon signal - I transmitted from about 1650 to 1920z on 137 703.5Hz. At the same time, I could see RN6BN in between my characters - Sam's signal started quite weak, but by 1800 had risen rapidly by about 20 - 30dB and was audible here for about 30 minutes. After that, the noise level rose rapidly too, but RN6BN remained at "O" copy on the spectrogram. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80719 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 02:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 02:10:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 62710 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 02:10:46 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 02:10:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCquJ-000F17-5p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:10:43 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCqtU-0000Fp-CT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:09:52 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCqtT-0000Fg-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:09:51 +0100 Received: from mxsf03.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.203]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCqtQ-0004PX-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:09:48 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: johncellarnew Received: from johncellarnew (cpe-68-118-232-30.ma.charter.com [68.118.232.30]) by mxsf03.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i3C28I5v095928 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003e01c4202a$ac121d00$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c41e6d$9e2e9ce0$274136d2@mcalevey> <1081541662.4077041e8bf26@webmail2.kuleuven.be> <001d01c41e70$2c3b22e0$274136d2@mcalevey> <000001c41f39$b5825130$f92537d2@mcalevey> <16947522843.20040411085928@73.ru> <005701c41fa7$9f896e40$28ed2fd4@jboi0045tiscali> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:08:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.567 Subject: LF: WD2XES 137.7775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 After seeing some activity on Brian's screen captures, WD2XES is now on 137.7775 kHz, in DFCW90 with 0.2 Hz shift, sending "XES". Power is 225 watts. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES WD2XES Status: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 87467 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 02:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 02:14:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 81653 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 02:14:32 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 02:14:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCqxu-000L6Z-Bt for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:14:26 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCqxP-0000T8-II for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:13:55 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCqxP-0000Sz-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:13:55 +0100 Received: from ms.genesiswireless.us ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCqxM-0004QD-6D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:13:52 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: we0h Received: from we0h (rev-65.165.20.192.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.192]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i3C2DflZ018632 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:13:41 -0500 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <003e01c4202a$ac121d00$0500a8c0@charter.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=0.567 Subject: LF: RE: WD2XES 137.7775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Heck that should make it no problem John. Didn't know you had that much power over there. Good luck. Mike WE0H WD2XGI -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:09 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: WD2XES 137.7775 After seeing some activity on Brian's screen captures, WD2XES is now on 137.7775 kHz, in DFCW90 with 0.2 Hz shift, sending "XES". Power is 225 watts. John Andrews, W1TAG/WD2XES WD2XES Status: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40888 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 06:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 06:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 99270 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 06:01:15 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 06:01:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCuVJ-000PUR-R7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:01:09 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCuU5-0004Z1-7L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:59:53 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCuU4-0004Ys-Ij for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:59:52 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCuU1-0004mk-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:59:49 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3C5xeU8048831 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:59:41 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:00:20 +0400 X-Bad-From: No DNS (73.ru) From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <945226796.20040412100020@73.ru> To: Vernall In-reply-To: <00f501c4200d$0a0267d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <10614217859.20040412012331@73.ru> <00f501c4200d$0a0267d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: Frequency for RN6BN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 4 Yes, Bob, my TRX Yaesu FT-990 is not calibrated. +- ? Hz I ready continues experiment this week. Ok? V> You said: >> My TX frequency 16-17z 137702, 17-19z 137702.5 V> My frequency calibration (TS-850 with very good VCTCXO) is for Argo 803 Hz V> corresponding to 137.703 kHz, and should be better than 0.1 Hz. V> 73, Bob -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3706 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:25:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 54481 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:25:04 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:25:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCvoV-000E15-1B for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:25:03 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCvni-0000Zc-8O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:24:14 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCvnh-0000ZS-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:24:13 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCvne-0004t5-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:24:10 +0100 Received: from web2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040412072335.YKTH2290.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@web2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:23:35 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040412072335.UFDN20540.web2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:23:35 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <002d01c4205f$1a588f90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <10614217859.20040412012331@73.ru> <00f501c4200d$0a0267d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <945226796.20040412100020@73.ru> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:20:37 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: Frequency for RN6BN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Sam, OK. I'll continue to look for your beacon. Also I expect Andrew ZL2BBJ and Mike ZL4OL to be trying. Will it be QRSS60 each night? 73, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "rn6bn" To: "Vernall" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: Frequency for RN6BN beacon > Yes, Bob, my TRX Yaesu FT-990 is not calibrated. +- ? Hz > > I ready continues experiment this week. Ok? > > > V> You said: > >> My TX frequency 16-17z 137702, 17-19z 137702.5 > > V> My frequency calibration (TS-850 with very good VCTCXO) is for Argo 803 Hz > V> corresponding to 137.703 kHz, and should be better than 0.1 Hz. > > V> 73, Bob > > > > -- > Best regards, > Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70767 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:26:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 63437 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:26:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:26:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCvq6-000GNW-VZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:26:43 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCvpe-0000ju-L8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:26:14 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCvpd-0000jk-WF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:26:14 +0100 X-No-DNS-For: 80.68.4.13 Received: from [80.68.4.13] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCvpa-0004tE-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:26:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 20400 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 11:25:32 +0400 X-Fake-Domain: ed.dx Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by 80.68.4.13 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 11:25:32 +0400 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:25:34 +0400 From: Ed Lesnichy X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! 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(v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Dear LF-enthusiasts, Monday, April 12, 2004, 12:30:07 AM, Bob ZL2CA wrote: V> I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call sign, in the V> period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start of the 6 in V> the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of the 6 and V> BN. Capture times were 1822 UTC and 1918 UTC, and sunrise is nominally 1851 V> UTC. It is very good Easter news for LF-enthusiasts and especially for Europeans ! - first Eu signal received in ZL - CONGRATS Bob ZL2CA and Sam RN6BN! This is distance abt 16438km (RE78IR - KN95LC) in LA0FX's soft - new world's 1-way QSO record on 136kHz band! But calculation of distances between two points a very hard task for the very large distances.. The majority of the programs consider the Earth as absolutely round...but no fearl!... All distances in the my table "Best QSOs" (http://136.73.ru/h_qso/index.htm ) are calculated by the program LA0FX and in basic on QTH-loc (distance centre to centre of QTH-locs -> mistake up to abt 10km). PSE inform me abt programs takes into account unspheric of the Earth - I'm recalculated mine tables (some in geographic coordinates). I nor am sure in completeness of my tables - PSE correct my info! Bob ZL2CA and Sam RN6BN, PSE inform us abt yours RX - TX setups under this beautiful receptions. 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24903 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 76505 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 07:52:00 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 07:51:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BCwEY-000Jiu-0X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:51:58 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCwDv-0002Hl-H0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:51:19 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCwDq-0002Hc-Fn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:51:14 +0100 Received: from mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.147]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCwDm-0004va-QM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:51:11 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040412075036.WSQV25427.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:50:36 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040412075036.ENZM9742.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:50:36 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <003501c42062$e059ec90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:50:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: Re: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Ed RU6LA, My home station receiving setup is an active antenna feeding a TS-850 and Argo looking at the audio. The active antenna is a 10 metre insulated pipe guyed in a tree in the rear corner of my property, there is a high impedance low pass filter before the first active device, gives essentially broadband performance within VLF and LF, plenty of gain and balanced shielded feeder (computer data cable, buried) to the shack. The TS-850 is in CW mode set for 270 Hz bandwidth, NB1 on, fast AGC and 800 Hz as centre frequency. For unattended operation I run all gear through a constant voltage transformer. I do not use the 1 Hz tuning step capability as the '850 digital dial only displays to 10 Hz, and it can be tricky tuning between and being certain which 1 Hz step applies, so by having the '850 at 10 Hz steps only I do all fine tuning using Argo. So for RN6BN with a declared frequency of 137.703 kHz, I set the '850 dial at 137.70 kHz and set Argo for 803 Hz at centre of the waterfall display. 73, Bob ZL2CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Lesnichy" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN > Dear LF-enthusiasts, > > Monday, April 12, 2004, 12:30:07 AM, Bob ZL2CA wrote: > > V> I am pleased to report that I got O copy of all of your call sign, in the > V> period before ZL sunrise. Argo captures have RN abd the start of the 6 in > V> the first graphic, and I'll send as a second upload, the rest of the 6 and > V> BN. Capture times were 1822 UTC and 1918 UTC, and sunrise is nominally 1851 > V> UTC. > > It is very good Easter news for LF-enthusiasts and especially for > Europeans ! - first Eu signal received in ZL - CONGRATS Bob ZL2CA and > Sam RN6BN! > > This is distance abt 16438km (RE78IR - KN95LC) in LA0FX's soft - new > world's 1-way QSO record on 136kHz band! > > But calculation of distances between two points a very hard task for the very > large distances.. The majority of the programs consider the Earth as > absolutely round...but no fearl!... > > All distances in the my table "Best QSOs" (http://136.73.ru/h_qso/index.htm ) > are calculated by the program LA0FX and in basic on QTH-loc (distance centre to > centre of QTH-locs -> mistake up to abt 10km). > PSE inform me abt programs takes into account unspheric of the Earth - I'm > recalculated mine tables (some in geographic coordinates). > > I nor am sure in completeness of my tables - PSE correct my info! > > Bob ZL2CA and Sam RN6BN, PSE inform us abt yours RX - TX setups under > this beautiful receptions. > > 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84318 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 08:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 08:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 64615 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 08:26:36 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 08:26:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCwm3-000Ggy-2A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:26:35 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCwlH-0004IW-ET for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:25:47 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCwlH-0004IN-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:25:47 +0100 Received: from mta3-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.43]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCwlE-0004yK-8J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:25:44 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.65]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040412082543.BLWS18790.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:25:43 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c42050$2c24d3a0$41e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 06:36:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_40_50=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: LF DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

RN6BN very strong yesterday evening and the usual VO1NA this morning on 137 khz. Worked K9DX at 599 on 160 metres early this morning, the only USA stn about. Condx good on the lower bands so far this year, no static about.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

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(v2.04.7) Personal Organization: Tsel X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1477401835.20040412131702@73.ru> To: Vernall In-Reply-To: <002d01c4205f$1a588f90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <10614217859.20040412012331@73.ru> <00f501c4200d$0a0267d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <945226796.20040412100020@73.ru> <002d01c4205f$1a588f90$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SMTPD: qpsmtpd/0.26, http://develooper.com/code/qpsmtpd/ X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: FROM_ALL_NUMS=1.159,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Frequency for RN6BN beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ALL_NUMS, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Yes, today agn QRSS60 and ~137702.5, 16-19Z. Synchronizing each hour. V> OK. I'll continue to look for your beacon. Also I expect Andrew ZL2BBJ and V> Mike ZL4OL to be trying. Will it be QRSS60 each night? V> 73, Bob >> I ready continues experiment this week. Ok? >> Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru -- RN6BN, Sam mailto:73@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93545 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 11:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 11:22:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 83750 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 11:22:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 11:22:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BCzWd-000LfO-Qc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:22:51 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BCzVf-0005PV-2a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:21:51 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BCzVe-0005PM-Fh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:21:50 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.160]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCzVb-0005Bm-Ln for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:21:47 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 25716 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 13:21:16 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO sq5bpm) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (wp-smtpd) with SMTP for ; 12 Apr 2004 13:21:16 +0200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (men.edu.pl) Message-ID: <000501c42080$45764ca0$6300a8c0@men.edu.pl> From: "Marek SQ5BPM" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:21:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiVirus: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. [wersja 2.0c] X-WP-AntySpam-Rezultat: NIE-SPAM X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hello everyone, > Bob ZL2CA and Sam RN6BN, PSE inform us > abt yours RX - TX setups under this beautiful > receptions. Especially RN6BN, please provide some info about the TX output power, antenna current, antenna height/length, expected ERP etc. It is "only" ca. 1200km farther from SP5ZCC than from RN6BN to New Zealand. Seeing such a good copy of a signal from UA, I am nearly sure that the same or comparable transmitting equipment would give at least a trace in Argo in ZL. I still remember that previous attempts from Western Europe have failed, then "the border" must be somewhere in-between. SP5ZCC seems to be more or less in the middle between RN6BN location and the UK: SP5ZCC <> RN6BN = ca. 1514km SP5ZCC <> M0BMU = ca. 1467km RN6BN <> ZL2OL = ca. 16438km SP5ZCC <> ZL2OL = ca. 17672km M0BMU <> ZL2OL = ca. 18790km Looking at the globe, the shortest path changes quickly and gets more and more over land when moving into the north-west of Europe... But, surprisingly, the path from Greece, southern Spain and Portugal to New Zealand is ca. 3/4 over the sea. Especially Portugal is interesting as the path is very close to 20000km and is mostly over the sea in both directions. Shortest paths on a sphere are not very intuitive hi. Congratulations to RN6BN and ZL2OL, I think we're all waiting for a successful reception of ZL signal in UA! === I have to take some holidays from work and raise the level of my poor setup at ZCC by a few steps :) I am currently finishing a 1m^2 receiving loop - during last activity in January I've been only copying the strongest stations... We have a problem at ZCC as our FT-990's reference oscillator stability degraded heavily with no reason - hard to work even normal CW as it happens to jump by 300-400 Hz (with no change on the display) and then slowly gets back to the original QRG. Strange - I suspect the reference quartz is broken and I am considering buying the TCXO-2. But first we let someone with better mesuring equipment to have a look at it. Do you think the master reference or rather the synthesis circuit is broken? Did anyone have a similar problem? Anyway - until this is solved I am not able to work any QRSS as it used to be the signal source and receiver for LF :( 73! Marek SQ5BPM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68055 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 13:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 13:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 75582 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 13:36:31 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 13:36:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD1bx-000JLz-WF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:36:30 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD1aq-0004Hv-QE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:35:20 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD1aq-0004Hm-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:35:20 +0100 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.154]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD1an-0005L8-Ax for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:35:17 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.22) for id 1BD1am-00027N-Cc; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:35:16 +0200 Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rks24 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07983-04 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:35:15 +0200 (MET DST) X-No-DNS-For: 141.30.213.64 Received: from [141.30.213.64] (helo=fkurz.wh26.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de with esmtp (exim-4.22) for id 1BD1al-00027H-Nm; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:35:15 +0200 From: Fabian Kurz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:34:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <000501c42080$45764ca0$6300a8c0@men.edu.pl> In-Reply-To: <000501c42080$45764ca0$6300a8c0@men.edu.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404121534.50804.fk@diolog.de> X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at rks24.urz.tu-dresden.de X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on rks24 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 On Monday 12 April 2004 11:21, Marek SQ5BPM wrote: > We have a problem at ZCC as our FT-990's reference oscillator stability > degraded heavily with no reason - hard to work even normal CW as it happens > to jump by 300-400 Hz (with no change on the display) and then slowly gets > back to the original QRG. Strange - I suspect the reference quartz is > broken and I am considering buying the TCXO-2. But first we let someone > with better mesuring equipment to have a look at it. Do you think the > master reference or rather the synthesis circuit is broken? Did anyone have > a similar problem? I experienced exactly the same problem with my FT-890 and it turned out to be a bad trimmer capacitor which is in series to the reference Xtal. After replacing this trimmer the frequency-stability was very good again. Maybe the FT-990 uses the same reference-frequency-circuit? 73, Fabian DJ1YFK -- Fabian Kurz - DJ1YFK * http://fkurz.net/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56383 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 15:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 15:44:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21763 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 15:44:27 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 15:44:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD3bl-0005P7-1b for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:44:25 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD3au-0003A7-VX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:43:32 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD3au-00039y-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:43:32 +0100 Received: from mta5-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.45]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD3ar-0005Uf-Jn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:43:29 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.39]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040412154328.MRRP6228.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:43:28 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000701c4208d$1f6f9360$27d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <005101c42029$2c83ce40$6bcc8351@rogersservices> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:52:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:57 AM Subject: LF: Re: O copy of RN6BN > Dear LF Group, > > Very good... looking at the map, this looks like it must be the new one-way > distance record. It is interesting that both UA0LE and RN6BN have put good > signals into ZL, but although the distance from western Europe to New > Zealand os not that much greater, no signals over that path seem to have > been copied, despite several attempts. Try a similar antenna system and power as RN6BN and you might succeed. Except you are exceptionally lucky and the wind is in the right direction a 40ft pole and a 100 ft or so of wire will not do the trick. RN6BN considering the distance difference was nearly as strong as you last night !!!!!!!!!! I have heard you stronger in the past. My 120 ft vertical is currently being used for dxing on 160 metres and not available for LF otherwise I might be in with a chance. If MM0ALM was about these days he also would stand a good chance of being seen/heard around UA0 and beyond possibley ZL. Distance between stations could be measured more accurately using GPS, conventional methods are subject to big errors and the signal path has to be determined more accurately, to much guesswork at present. G3KEV > > Thanks for the reports on my beacon signal - I transmitted from about 1650 > to 1920z on 137 703.5Hz. At the same time, I could see RN6BN in between my > characters - Sam's signal started quite weak, but by 1800 had risen rapidly > by about 20 - 30dB and was audible here for about 30 minutes. After that, > the noise level rose rapidly too, but RN6BN remained at "O" copy on the > spectrogram. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 85331 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 17:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 17:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 75525 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 17:41:44 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 17:41:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD5RG-000JPM-Cu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:41:42 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD5QF-0000Gd-J3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:40:39 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD5QF-0000GU-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:40:39 +0100 Received: from uranium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.89]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD5QC-0005cP-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:40:36 +0100 Received: from [213.122.147.88] (helo=rogersservices) by uranium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BD5QA-0003ZT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:40:35 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rogersservices) Message-ID: <000d01c420b4$9e93b960$58937ad5@rogersservices> From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <005101c42029$2c83ce40$6bcc8351@rogersservices> <000701c4208d$1f6f9360$27d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:35:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: O copy of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 > > Try a similar antenna system and power as RN6BN and you might succeed. > Except you are exceptionally lucky and the wind is in the right direction a > 40ft pole and a 100 ft or so of wire will not do the trick. > RN6BN considering the distance difference was nearly as strong as you last > night !!!!!!!!!! I have heard you stronger in the past. Dear Mal, LF Group, The fact that the ZL boys did not see my signals last night comes as no surprise - in fact, because it was still daylight here, I had to use my "daytime" antenna configuration, resulting in only about 400mW ERP. Whether an extra 4dB to the 1W ERP limit would make a difference I don't know, but this was not what I found interesting. I suppose one could put the unsuccessful attempts at receiving ZL6QH in the past down to the fact that there is virtually no darkness path to ZL from western Europe, whilst, for RN6BN, being further east means an hour or two when the whole path is in darkness. However, this would not really explain the negative results trying to receive UA0LE in Europe, whilst excellent reception of Ed's signal was had in ZL. With the big antenna Ed was using, we should have been able to copy him, even if our signals were too weak for Ed to see. If one accepts that propagation is via multiple reflections from the lower layers of the ionosphere, it would seem that a huge number of hops would be required to cover the distances involved. It seems as if some LF propagation paths work much better than others; I would be interested to know why. I am currently (1730z) transmitting on 137.7035kHz again; RN6BN is "O" copy on 137.7026kHz, to the nearest 0.1Hz Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18078 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 17:42:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 17:42:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 55693 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 17:42:23 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 17:42:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BD5Rt-000EMB-RD for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:42:21 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD5RS-0000N4-Sm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:41:54 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD5RS-0000Mv-Fo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:41:54 +0100 Received: from mail.kuban.ru ([62.183.66.246]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD5RP-0005cZ-0M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:41:51 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: sam3 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i3CHfhU8092868 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:41:43 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:42:27 +0400 From: rn6bn X-Suspect-Bulk-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <134173296.20040412214227@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-To: <002e01c4205f$c05144f0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <002e01c4205f$c05144f0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: Antenna and DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Bob, Can answer through reflector only :(. Shall Tomorrow solve this problem. V> What do you have as a transmitting antenna for 137 kHz? my equipment and antenna http://www.73.ru/equipment/137/ Antenna TX - inv L 45m vertically 80m horizontally + 30 radials 50m each. V> Also for trying for a QSO, is it possible for you to use DFCW (FSK) ? Yes, I can use DFCW. V> I use a PC to V> generate 0.4 Hz shift DFCW and transmit in SSB mode at LF with a modified V> TS-850. My equipment for DFCW similar. PC (QRSS soft ON7YD) - SSB mode transmit 13.770.0 MHz, 1/100 device - PA 1kW I can try tomorrow (13.04.04) DFCW. 30, 60 or 90 ?? V>............ V> 73, Bob I still not ready for QSO. My RX antenna = TX antenna. Here in RA6A plenty of thunderstorms. I need month for fabrication good RX antenna. But, possible and try soon. -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6988 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 18:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 18:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 66231 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 18:34:19 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 18:34:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD6G9-000H29-Kx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:34:17 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD6FS-00043Y-Ha for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:33:34 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD6FS-00043P-3A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:33:34 +0100 Received: from mta2-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.42]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD6FP-0005fw-9M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:33:31 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.51]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040412183330.OWHO29792.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:33:30 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000c01c420a4$e0c5c7c0$33e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:42:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: HTML_30_40=0.809,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: YU7AR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

The only BIG signal from mainland EU is YU7AR. I have not heard him for some time but he is the only one that might manage a QSO to UA0 or ZL. The others are very much weaker and I have seen them struggling to work each other around EU never mind any DX beyond. At my QTH all EU stns are weak compared to the Russian stns and YU7AR.

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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93880 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:04:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 54753 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:04:58 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:04:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD7fs-000E7R-4m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:04:56 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD7f0-0007ri-SN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:04:02 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD7ez-0007rZ-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:04:01 +0100 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.146]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD7ex-0005lx-Om for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:04:00 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040412200327.MISM3724.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:03:27 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040412200326.JJWH9742.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:03:26 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <006901c420c9$4200f1d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:03:41 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040204010406090909040205" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040204010406090909040205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sam RN6BN, Last night was not so productive, only a trace received in a capture at 1636 UTC. Nil in all other captures. Commenting on QRSS vs DFCW, for beaconing the main benefit of DFCW is that it has a higher "duty cycle" as it avoids the "long gaps" between characters and words. Key up time does little for receiver S/N. Also the frequency shift can be useful to distinguish a wanted signal from coherent QRM. For DX beaconing into ZL, I suggest DFCW120. For an attempted QSO, DFCW is much more productive as it makes much better use of time windows. Our next booking at ZL6QH/ZM2E is 19 June, so it seems yopu have time to build a good receiving antenna, hi hi. 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(v1.46d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11813483140.20040413001737@73.ru> To: Vernall In-reply-To: <006901c420c9$4200f1d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <006901c420c9$4200f1d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: TW_TN=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hello Bob! Agn tnx for try RX my signal. This in the night I shall try DFCW120 in this time and frequency. 73! I go to sleep now. Tuesday, April 13, 2004, 12:03:41 AM, you wrote: V> Sam RN6BN, V> Last night was not so productive, only a trace received in a capture at 1636 V> UTC. Nil in all other captures. V> Commenting on QRSS vs DFCW, for beaconing the main benefit of DFCW is that V> it has a higher "duty cycle" as it avoids the "long gaps" between characters V> and words. Key up time does little for receiver S/N. Also the frequency V> shift can be useful to distinguish a wanted signal from coherent QRM. For V> DX beaconing into ZL, I suggest DFCW120. For an attempted QSO, DFCW is much V> more productive as it makes much better use of time windows. Our next V> booking at ZL6QH/ZM2E is 19 June, so it seems yopu have time to build a good V> receiving antenna, hi hi. V> For testing tonight, I suggest using DFCW120. V> 73, Bob ZL2CA -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84400 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:19:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:19:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 74441 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:19:34 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:19:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BD7u0-000JEw-GB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:19:32 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD7tR-0000q2-WC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:18:57 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD7tR-0000pt-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:18:57 +0100 Received: from magneto.esoterica.pt ([195.22.0.25]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD7tO-0005o0-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:18:54 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: Slave_13.esoterica.pt Received: from Slave_13.esoterica.pt (adsl-norte02-1-17.vianw.pt [80.172.144.17]) by magneto.esoterica.pt (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3CKIpkp030697 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:18:51 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: nx4ywv@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:18:46 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <006901c420c9$4200f1d0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Bob, my system is fired up to transmit, what frequency is available, I don't want to double? 73, Brian CT1DRP At 20:03 12/04/2004, you wrote: >Sam RN6BN, > >Last night was not so productive, only a trace received in a capture at 1636 >UTC. Nil in all other captures. > >Commenting on QRSS vs DFCW, for beaconing the main benefit of DFCW is that >it has a higher "duty cycle" as it avoids the "long gaps" between characters >and words. Key up time does little for receiver S/N. Also the frequency >shift can be useful to distinguish a wanted signal from coherent QRM. For >DX beaconing into ZL, I suggest DFCW120. For an attempted QSO, DFCW is much >more productive as it makes much better use of time windows. Our next >booking at ZL6QH/ZM2E is 19 June, so it seems yopu have time to build a good >receiving antenna, hi hi. > >For testing tonight, I suggest using DFCW120. > >73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1573 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:37:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:37:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25907 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:37:10 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:37:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD8B3-0006cZ-7O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:37:09 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8AC-0001Wm-OB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:36:16 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8A9-0001WV-NM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:36:13 +0100 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD8A7-0005pQ-QL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:36:12 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040412203538.PRCO4338.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:35:38 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040412203537.GVBG26464.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:35:37 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <008901c420cd$c0c61cd0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:31:45 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Brian CT1DRP, > Bob, my system is fired up to transmit, what frequency is available, I > don't want to double? I am clear of QRM around 137.700 kHz, so I suggest you go just higher in frequency. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10767 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:46:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13037 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 20:46:48 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 20:46:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BD8KF-00031e-7R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:46:39 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8Jb-0001pG-UZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:45:59 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8Jb-0001p7-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:45:59 +0100 Received: from magneto.esoterica.pt ([195.22.0.25]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD8Ja-0005qT-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:45:58 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: Slave_13.esoterica.pt Received: from Slave_13.esoterica.pt (adsl-norte02-1-17.vianw.pt [80.172.144.17]) by magneto.esoterica.pt (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3CKjsBR032210 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:45:54 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20040412204051.00b2a510@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: nx4ywv@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:45:49 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Bad-From: No DNS (esoterica.pt) From: Brian Rogerson In-Reply-To: <008901c420cd$c0c61cd0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 4 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Bob, I have just powered up the transmitter on 137703, DFCW 120s +/- 0.1, transmitting my callsign. I think we have a very short common greyline around 0600utc. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 20:31 12/04/2004, you wrote: >Brian CT1DRP, > > > Bob, my system is fired up to transmit, what frequency is available, I > > don't want to double? > >I am clear of QRM around 137.700 kHz, so I suggest you go just higher in >frequency. > >73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10042 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 21:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 21:12:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 59599 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 21:12:39 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 21:12:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BD8jJ-000EeD-7u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:12:33 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8iI-0003i4-75 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:11:30 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BD8iH-0003hv-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:11:29 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BD8iD-0005sz-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:11:25 +0100 Received: from web2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040412211041.OGHL1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@web2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:10:41 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.119]) by web2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040412211003.VVJF20540.web2-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:10:03 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <00a301c420d2$9079d120$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412204051.00b2a510@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:10:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Brian, I'll be listening out over 0600 UTC (9 hours away). 73, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rogerson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN > Bob, I have just powered up the transmitter on 137703, DFCW 120s +/- 0.1, > transmitting my callsign. I think we have a very short common greyline > around 0600utc. 73, Brian CT1DRP > > > At 20:31 12/04/2004, you wrote: > >Brian CT1DRP, > > > > > Bob, my system is fired up to transmit, what frequency is available, I > > > don't want to double? > > > >I am clear of QRM around 137.700 kHz, so I suggest you go just higher in > >frequency. > > > >73, Bob > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 63140 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 23:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 23:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6344 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 23:27:41 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 23:27:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 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-0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 01:25:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 71761 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 01:25:43 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 01:25:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDCgI-000IS3-Mc for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:25:42 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDCfF-0008Is-DR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:24:37 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDCfE-0008Ij-RZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:24:36 +0100 Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.201]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDCfB-0006EM-QZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:24:33 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: johncellarnew Received: from johncellarnew (cpe-68-118-232-30.ma.charter.com [68.118.232.30]) by mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i3D1NwNw024384 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002001c420ed$a5570ca0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00e401c42008$bfd4ad70$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <10614217859.20040412012331@73.ru> <1BDAnk-0grQdk0@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:24:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: CT1DRP in U.S. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 I am seeing some pieces of CT1DRP in DFCW this evening on 137.703, even with a high noise level. I must be off the back of Brian's beam. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43280 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 02:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 02:05:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24545 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 02:05:08 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 02:05:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDDIN-0006Fm-2u for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:05:03 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDDHe-0002AB-PU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:04:18 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDDHd-0002A2-Rm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:04:17 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDDHa-0006Gl-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:04:14 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040413020341.GYGT1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:03:41 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.197.11]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040413020313.RAJB6422.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:03:13 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <002701c420fb$79b12870$0bc536d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412204051.00b2a510@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:00:07 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Brian, I shall also watch for your signal at our sunset. I am confident I identified Sam's signal last night despite the poorer conditions which I think may have been higher noise rather than weaker signals. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22212 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 03:29:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 03:29:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12509 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 03:29:23 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 03:29:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDEby-00038b-9v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:29:22 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDEbA-00075e-EM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:28:32 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDEb9-00075V-PB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:28:31 +0100 Received: from bay12-f92.bay12.hotmail.com ([64.4.35.92] helo=hotmail.com) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDEb6-0006TH-7r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:28:28 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:27:56 -0700 Received: from 24.116.116.38 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:27:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.116.38] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com From: "Laurence KL1X" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:27:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2004 03:27:56.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[5046A030:01C42107] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: RE: LF: CT1DRP in U.S. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Im just seeing DCF39 at dot 30 here in Oklahoma - only 40dBs to go!! Laurence >From: "John Andrews" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: CT1DRP in U.S. >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:24:08 +0100 > >I am seeing some pieces of CT1DRP in DFCW this evening on 137.703, even >with >a high noise level. I must be off the back of Brian's beam. > >John Andrews > > > _________________________________________________________________ Limited-time offer: Fast, reliable MSN 9 Dial-up Internet access FREE for 2 months! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&pgmarket=en-us&ST=1/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2065 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 07:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 07:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 62199 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 07:20:51 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 07:20:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDIDx-000G1j-Uw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:20:50 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDICJ-00025C-Nz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:07 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDICI-000253-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:06 +0100 Received: from mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.145]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDICG-0006k3-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:04 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040413071827.DDPL2290.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:18:27 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: mcalevey Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.198.120]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040413071826.TBNY9742.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:18:26 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (mcalevey) Message-ID: <000201c42127$82c61fc0$78c636d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412204051.00b2a510@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:17:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: CT1DRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Brian, nothing seen here on 137.703 over our sunset. Grayline signals to europe were very good on 80m though. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98437 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 07:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 07:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 62511 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 07:20:52 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 07:20:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDIDx-000G1i-Ux for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:20:50 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDICa-00025P-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:24 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDICZ-00025G-MW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:23 +0100 Received: from standby2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.58] helo=standby2.xtra.co.nz) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDICX-0006k5-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:19:22 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by standby2.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040413071849.XYJ1313.standby2.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:18:49 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: bob2l2u6k2n1g3 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.89.179.115]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040413071849.UZEM6422.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:18:49 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (bob2l2u6k2n1g3) Message-ID: <004101c42127$9b422120$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040411053239.NYFR13120.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> <007101c41f87$3ce0ada0$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <11050987609.20040411095712@73.ru> <009101c42003$f14afa30$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <173612248082.20040412112534@dx.ru> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412201653.00bccc58@pop.vianw.pt> <5.2.0.9.2.20040412204051.00b2a510@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:18:28 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: a trace of RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Brian CT1DRP, A nil report for 177.703 kHz around 0600z. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24064 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 13:21:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 13:21:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14265 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 13:21:34 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 13:21:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BDNr1-0003N0-BH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:21:31 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDNpg-0003JM-Ry for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:20:08 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDNpg-0003JD-2d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:20:08 +0100 Received: from mailgate5.web.de ([217.72.192.165]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDNpc-0007Be-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:20:04 +0100 Received: by mailgate5.web.de (8.11.6p2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id i3DDJX418679 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:19:33 +0200 Received: from 217.2.104.202 by freemailng1801.web.de with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:01:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:01:49 +0200 Message-Id: <93289790@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_NJABL=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: a step towards 136kHz cores, drivers optocouplers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org schrieb am 11.04.04 22:49:27: > > Hello all, > > I nearly finished my 50V/15A cont. powersupply. > Coming week I'll do some tests to see if it works well. > Unfortunatly I can't test the current limiter, as I doesn't have > a suitable dummyload..... > I think this was one of the most time consuming parts to built. > > Next step will be building the G0MRF transmitter. > Meanwhile I received some FET's etc, but I'm still missing > some of the difficult parts, like the TC4426 Try at Buerklin.com (Dr. Hans Bürklin, München) They have a minimum order of about EUR 25, I have ordered drivers from Micrel there. , H11L1 (optocoupler) It is possible to choose any opto-coupler. They all are rather slow in swiching times. My choise is allways CNY17 or SFH617 from Siemens/ Infineon. > and the 3C85/3C85 cores. Nice cores has Oppermann Elektronik in D-31595 Steyerberg, oppermann-electronic.de I recommend the core Order-Nr. BRK1667, EUR 8,62 or other Cores with 50mm...100mm Diameter and an relative permeability of 250...1500 /suitable and available too). You can also search the offers at HAM-Radio in Friedrichshafen (the flea-market, not the new parts offer) about 27. June 2004 in Friedrichshafen at Lake Constant. If You need help in the calculus of magnetics and the choice of magnetic materials, ask me. I have professional experience in developing power-supplies "Resonanzwandlerschaltnetzteile" ("What a long word- It must be important" WE0H). > I really can't get them here. > Anyone in a Euro-country who can help me to get them for > a reasonable price?? > > Dick, pa4vhf 55, Hans-Albrecht Haffa DK 8 ND, cba, qrz.com ++49 - 7161 - 87 847 > > _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE Virenschutz schuetzt Ihr Postfach vor dem Wurm Netsky.A-P! Kostenfrei fuer alle FreeMail Nutzer. http://f.web.de/?mc=021157 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2508 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 14:51:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 14:51:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 70552 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 14:51:41 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 14:51:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BDPGG-000IBp-38 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:51:40 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDPFB-0003tE-8I for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:50:33 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDPFA-0003t5-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:50:32 +0100 Received: from mailgate5.web.de ([217.72.192.165]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDPF7-0007Il-7e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:50:29 +0100 Received: by mailgate5.web.de (8.11.6p2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id i3DEnw405003 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:49:58 +0200 Received: from 217.2.104.202 by freemailng1802.web.de with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:20:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:20:53 +0200 Message-Id: <93303309@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_NJABL=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: a step further towards 136kHz, cores, drivers optocouplers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org schrieb am 11.04.04 22:49:27: > > Hello all, > > I nearly finished my 50V/15A cont. powersupply. > Coming week I'll do some tests to see if it works well. > Unfortunatly I can't test the current limiter, as I doesn't have > a suitable dummyload..... > I think this was one of the most time consuming parts to built. > > Next step will be building the G0MRF transmitter. > Meanwhile I received some FET's etc, but I'm still missing > some of the difficult parts, like the TC4426, H11L1 (optocoupler) > and the 3C85/3C85 cores. > I really can't get them here. > Anyone in a Euro-country who can help me to get them for > a reasonable price?? > > Dick, pa4vhf > Dear Dick, I recommend cores from Oppermann-electronic.de Oppermann Elektronik, D-31595 Steyerberg Core BRK1667 EUR 8,62 62*31*20mm) is a good choice, You may stack two many of them. Other cores are also in catalogue LRK380, KRK261. Any core with a relative Permeability of 250...1500 will do it. Or You go to Ham-Radio fair at Friedrichshafen at 27 June 2004 and search the flea market. If You have question about magnetics and the materials, ask me. I have professional experience in developing power supplies. (Resonalzwandlerschaltnetzteile; "What a long word - it must be important WE0H"). The FET-Drivers You can buy at Buerklin.com, DR. Hans Bürklin, München. I have done so. The minimum order amount is about EUR 25,--. You can choose nerly every optocoupler. They all switch rather slow. My choice is Siemens-Infineon CNY17, SFH617. 55, Hans-Albrecht Haffa DK 8 ND cba, qrz.com. F: ++49-7161 - 87 847. ____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE Virenschutz schuetzt Ihr Postfach vor dem Wurm Sober.A-F! Kostenfrei fuer FreeMail Nutzer. http://f.web.de/?mc=021158 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88545 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 16:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 16:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 93465 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 16:21:55 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 16:21:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BDQfa-000O54-4R for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:21:54 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BDQeL-0004WP-V9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:20:37 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDQeL-0004WG-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:20:37 +0100 Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.210]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BDQeI-0007P9-QM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:20:34 +0100 Received: from modem-92.aranruth.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.119.220] helo=d6y6c7) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BDQeH-0006y9-NN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:20:34 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (d6y6c7) Message-ID: <000501c42173$40752070$dc77883e@d6y6c7> From: "Lawrence Mayhead"