From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15620 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:24:43 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:24:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16538 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:24:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:24:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X67t-00030P-NT for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:23:53 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X67p-0002zj-HU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:23:49 +0100 Received: from uadvg128.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.128) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:23:16 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.133.189] by uadvg128.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 398HFdVXN0190M28; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:23:13 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.133.189 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3F00AA90.3090201@usa.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:24:32 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <200306302008.50327.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Subject: Re: LF: SAQ nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false valerio gabbani wrote: >Geri and all, >i also tried to listen to SAQ on Sunday morning around 8:30 UTC, but with my >great surprise i heard a strong RTTY station at 17.2 kHz. >I use a RACAL 1772 receiver with the long antenna for 137 kHz without >preselector, so may be the RTTY station was an image, i had to investigate >it. > > > Valerio, at about 18.3 kHz there is a military station located at the Tavolara island, near Sardinia. It sounds like RTTY, and here it is quite strong, I can receive it by just connecting an indoor small loop directly to the sound card input. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8862 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:20:40 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:20:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20193 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:20:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:20:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X64E-0002vX-MV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:20:06 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X64A-0002v7-4z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:20:02 +0100 Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:19:30 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.133.189] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 236HFdVTA0294M30; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:19:27 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.133.189 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3F00A9AC.3060703@usa.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:20:44 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1d7.ca3ca4d.2c31ee44@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Photos of the LF meeting in Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false DL4YHF@aol.com wrote: > Dear all, > > Some photographs of the LF meeting at the Ham Radio fair in > Friedrichshafen are now available at: > > http://homepages.compuserve.de/WoBuescher/lf2003/index.html > Excellent pictures Wolf, many thanks for taking them. Now I can relate some callsigns with actual faces. Next year I do hope to be there too, maybe with a new software I am preparing for an Italian convention about digital radio to be held next October near Bolzano (Bozen in German). 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4442 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:17:02 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:17:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27041 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 21:17:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:17:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X60N-0002rh-NV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:16:07 +0100 Received: from [166.82.181.250] (helo=dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X60F-0002rR-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:16:01 +0100 Received: from att.net (main.dustinmcintyre.com [10.0.252.100] (may be forged)) by dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5ULFu301332 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:15:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3F00A88E.54DB762C@att.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:15:58 -0400 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33f32$9423e180$17d2fc3e@p4o2b7> <000401c33f3d$b4c88160$2d1786d4@erica> <001801c33f3b$155c59a0$e0d0fc3e@p4o2b7> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I sure wish the permit for 73 kHz had expired during the winter. It would have been nice for us NA receiving stations to have had a chance of copying all this activity. This band is the main reason I set up to plot HBG last fall. No interest then but sure a lot now. Any chance of an extension? W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15224 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 21:11:01 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:11:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18231 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 21:11:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 21:11:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X5uX-0002lt-AC for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:10:05 +0100 Received: from [212.216.176.221] (helo=vsmtp1.tin.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X5uS-0002ld-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:10:00 +0100 Received: from base (212.171.197.168) by vsmtp1.tin.it (6.7.016) id 3EE06136008B9DCB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:09:59 +0200 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:08:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> In-reply-to: <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <200306302008.50327.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: Re: LF: SAQ nil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAILversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Sunday 29 June 2003 10:46, Holger 'Geri', DK8KW wrote: > Hi folks, > > did anyone of you copy SAQ on 17.2 kHz this morning? I couldn't hear > anything, prossibly because one of those PSU's in the neighborhood making a > terrible noise at around 18 kHz. > > 73 > > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) Geri and all, i also tried to listen to SAQ on Sunday morning around 8:30 UTC, but with my great surprise i heard a strong RTTY station at 17.2 kHz. I use a RACAL 1772 receiver with the long antenna for 137 kHz without preselector, so may be the RTTY station was an image, i had to investigate it. '73 Valerio (IK5ZPV) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18285 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 20:46:34 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:46:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14584 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 20:46:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:46:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X5X0-0002Yj-0v for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:45:46 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.175] (helo=cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X5Ww-0002Ya-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:45:42 +0100 Received: from modem-185.minnesota.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.74.185] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X5Wv-0004RJ-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:45:41 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c33f49$07849dc0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:47:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ian, If you are still about I will call you at 2200 on 72.00kHz qrss3. OK? Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3819 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 20:31:57 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:31:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17362 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 20:31:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:31:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X5Il-0002RP-Gk for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:31:03 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X5Ih-0002RG-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:30:59 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-144.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.144] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19X5If-0004Ow-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33f47$9bf5a1e0$90ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001001c33ef0$5ff6f880$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000a01c33f10$1af38760$d9c428c3@erica> <000401c33f1e$2ef6c980$d3d0fc3e@p4o2b7> <000401c33f3a$2cb02420$de1686d4@erica> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:38:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73KHz notes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false When I put up the antenna and switched on the 73kHz station at around 1730 local I later heard/saw Jim BMU but his signal was down. The band seemed quiet and as I tuned across the band there was a change in the pitch of the noise - the sort of thing you get when the receiver is connected to a high Q loop. It turned out that the receiver had been left connected to the HF minibeam, which is only 6m away from the end of the LF antenna. A good example of antenna coupling. When the LF antenna is connected directly to the receiver the QRN masks the change in noise pitch with tuning. LF transmitter/loading coil/antenna performing well on the last day with 4.3 amps antenna current. Jim is clearly audible in beacon mode - time 2030z Regards, Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7403 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 20:10:13 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:10:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 114 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 20:10:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 20:10:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X4xj-0002Eb-2L for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:09:19 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X4xe-0002E2-TJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:09:14 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.208.224]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630200914.CJGE14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:09:14 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c33f3b$155c59a0$e0d0fc3e@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33f32$9423e180$17d2fc3e@p4o2b7> <000401c33f3d$b4c88160$2d1786d4@erica> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:08:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false OK Peter, will call you on qrss30 at 2030z . QRG 71.956 +/- machine error. Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15339 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:50:48 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:50:48 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18440 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:50:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:50:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X4f4-00023A-2e for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:50:02 +0100 Received: from [205.188.157.36] (helo=imo-d04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X4f0-00022w-8w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:49:58 +0100 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id l.1d7.ca3ca4d (4262) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:49:24 -0400 (EDT) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <1d7.ca3ca4d.2c31ee44@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:49:24 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: Photos of the LF meeting in Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear all,

Some photographs of the LF meeting at the Ham Radio fair in Friedrichshafen are now available at:

http://homepages.compuserve.de/WoBuescher/lf2003/index.html

Special thanks to Walter DJ2LF and Markus DF6NM for the interesting presentation of the direction finder, to John G3WKL for the cold beer, and to everyone else who joined for an eyeball-QSO, and
"including but not limited to" : OM2TW, DK3GH, G3YSX, G3GRO and companions .

Hope you returned home safely and made many contacts on the farewell-73-kHz-party !

Regards,
Wolf  DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7727 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:33:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:33:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26052 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:33:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:33:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X4Nw-0001pZ-A8 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:32:20 +0100 Received: from [195.22.0.27] (helo=iceman.esoterica.pt) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X4Ns-0001pP-G8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:32:16 +0100 Received: from slave-5.esoterica.pt (sjm088.esoterica.pt [195.22.17.216]) by iceman.esoterica.pt (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5UIL63C022834 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030630192913.00b30ec0@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: NX4YWV@vianw.pt@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:32:20 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: <000401c33f34$39e89920$f4ce28c3@erica> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030630174007.00b307e0@pop.vianw.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Super Optimism? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Many thanks Peter. Don't really expect to see anything until after 2000z. There is a signal on Andy's frequency but not decipherable. Brian At 19:19 30/06/2003, you wrote: > > I have just retuned my 60KHz antenna slightly and am trying to > > listen for Andy's beacon on 71.9KHz 10s currently without success. > > >Transmitting on and off QRSS3 on 71.95 > >Regards, >Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25424 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:20:42 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:20:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13359 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:20:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:20:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X4CB-0001f6-FQ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:20:11 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X4C6-0001ew-Sc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:20:06 +0100 Received: from tnt-13-301.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.23.45] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19X4C5-0004sr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:20:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33f3d$b4c88160$2d1786d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33f32$9423e180$17d2fc3e@p4o2b7> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:27:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ian > Been copying Peter and calling him between last posting and this without > success, and even Jim is down to M - and that is stretching it a bit. > Weather rotten but that means antenna current is up. Seems to me the times > are out of joint. What is your exact frequency Ian? Could you try QRSS30? Regards, Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15547 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 19:09:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:09:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 16316 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 19:09:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 19:09:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X40p-0001Ww-5u for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:08:27 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X40l-0001Wn-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:08:23 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.210.23]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630190822.VPS14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:08:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c33f32$9423e180$17d2fc3e@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:07:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Been copying Peter and calling him between last posting and this without success, and even Jim is down to M - and that is stretching it a bit. Weather rotten but that means antenna current is up. Seems to me the times are out of joint. Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19135 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 18:55:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 18:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8958 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 18:55:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 18:55:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X3nh-0001Pq-TQ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:54:53 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X3ne-0001Ph-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:54:50 +0100 Received: from tnt-13-222.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.222] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19X3nd-000MzH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:54:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33f3a$2cb02420$de1686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001001c33ef0$5ff6f880$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000a01c33f10$1af38760$d9c428c3@erica> <000401c33f1e$2ef6c980$d3d0fc3e@p4o2b7> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:01:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ian said > I hereby promise faithfully that I will call CQ on the quarter and > three-quarter hours from 1800z on. Freq. 72KHz +/- > I have just monitored Jim MBU working Ian again. Nothing seen of Ian. I can see G4JNT's transmission ins spite of the QRN. Regards, Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31576 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 18:13:29 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 18:13:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 10786 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 18:13:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 18:13:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X38W-0001Ag-Fs for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:12:20 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X38S-0001AX-Q9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:12:16 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-244.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.244] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19X38R-000IdY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:12:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33f34$39e89920$f4ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030630174007.00b307e0@pop.vianw.pt> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:19:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Super Optimism? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > I have just retuned my 60KHz antenna slightly and am trying to > listen for Andy's beacon on 71.9KHz 10s currently without success. > Transmitting on and off QRSS3 on 71.95 Regards, Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4278 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 17:50:55 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:50:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24826 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 17:50:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:50:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X2mn-0000xy-Ca for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:49:53 +0100 Received: from [195.22.0.27] (helo=iceman.esoterica.pt) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X2mj-0000xp-AV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:49:49 +0100 Received: from slave-5.esoterica.pt (sjm088.esoterica.pt [195.22.17.216]) by iceman.esoterica.pt (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5UGcc3C008661 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:38:39 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030630174007.00b307e0@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: NX4YWV@vianw.pt@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:49:52 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Super Optimism? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I have just retuned my 60KHz antenna slightly and am trying to listen for Andy's beacon on 71.9KHz 10s currently without success. Is anyone else interested in putting up a signal? 73, Brian CT1DRP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16789 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 17:18:30 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:18:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6091 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 17:18:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:18:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X2HH-0000i0-5E for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:19 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X2H7-0000hr-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:09 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.62]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630171708.MGL18309.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c33f22$fcac63e0$3ecdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:16:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
SAQ ACTY
I have sent a copy of the msg copied on 17.2 khz from SAQ  to the email address specified and await a QSL.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10003 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 17:18:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7846 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 17:18:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 17:18:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X2H6-0000hn-2F for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:08 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X2Gx-0000he-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:16:59 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.62]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630171658.MCE18309.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:16:58 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c33f22$f6e13c60$3ecdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:13:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: QRN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Very severe QRN all day both on 73 an 136 khz on both the loop and vertical, probably one of the worst days this year.
Had to disconnect the antennas at times to avoid blowing the front ends of the receivers. Have blown several in the past with  these antennas and severe lightening storms at the time even though they were hundreds of miles away.
Most of the 73 khz acty that I have hrd is taking place with those in the South only yards away from each other. 
A couple of G stns hrd CQ on 136 QSX 73 khz but did not hear any xband QSO'S take place, and no EU activity.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13106 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 16:43:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 16:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15491 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 16:43:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 16:43:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19X1jc-0000UT-42 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:42:32 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.41] (helo=mta1-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19X1jX-0000UK-Iu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:42:27 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.208.211]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630164226.VAUP24453.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:42:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33f1e$2ef6c980$d3d0fc3e@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001001c33ef0$5ff6f880$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000a01c33f10$1af38760$d9c428c3@erica> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:41:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, called once just before 1630 local but unfortunately misread Peters e-mail and was waiting for him to call me. Not unreasonably, not a flicker seen up to now. I hereby promise faithfully that I will call CQ on the quarter and three-quarter hours from 1800z on. Freq. 72KHz +/- Sorry Peter. 73, Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2909 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 13:55:49 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 13:55:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29907 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 13:55:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 13:55:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wz6M-0007x5-Gk for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:53:50 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wz6I-0007ww-VW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:53:47 +0100 Received: from tnt-2-217.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.217] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19Wz6G-0001up-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:53:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c33f10$1af38760$d9c428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001001c33ef0$5ff6f880$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:00:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ian and 73ers > I thought I saw something after Jim this AM but we have a bit of a family > upset and had to quit the shack rather sharpish. Also had GI0GDP over to > assist in making field strength measurements but not very successful. Based > on the received field strength at 2 Km the radiated power is down in the > microwatt region, which does not equate with the results I get! > As I write this there is a steady carrier visible on 71.997, but what its > origins might be I know not! > All being well should be around until late tonight. I will be on at 1630 local looking for Ian. Frequency 72kHz +/- avoiding any other signals or strong local SMPSU type lines. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2715 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 12:08:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 12:08:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14467 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 12:08:48 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 12:08:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WxRP-0007Eg-75 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:07:27 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.141] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WxRL-0007EV-07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:07:23 +0100 Received: from [80.40.93.13] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19WxRJ-0005e4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:07:22 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: <01C33F08.6C569E10.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:06:27 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'll leave this running until late evening then staying on 10s dots, since it is audible at reasonable distances. It shows how we've come on in capability in the six years. A 300uW ERP signal being detected at 100km plus range. I remember the first 100km QSO was barely audible aural CW transmitting 100 Watts Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: James Moritz [SMTP:j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk] Sent: 2003/06/30 11:27 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: 73KHz final fling Dear LF group, Saw MI0AYZ calling me yesterday evening - good copy after I had fiddled with the RX loop orientation, but lost Ian's signal completely after sending a report. No problem this morning around 0700utc, however, with "O" reports exchanged. Ian's signal was weakly audible amongst the QRN crashes. I also had good copy of G4JNT's low power beacon on 71.900kHz at QRSS3 and QRSS10 speeds during the evening. I spent quite a while calling CQ for cross-band QSOs, but had no takers - it was rather noisy on both 73 and 136. Will be QRV again this evening - if anyone would like a sked of some sort, let me know before about 1630utc - it's your last chance ever! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20531 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 11:15:54 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 11:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26463 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 11:15:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 11:15:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WwcC-0006ss-HX for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:14:32 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wwc8-0006si-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:14:28 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.209.190]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630111427.CKAK5914.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:14:27 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c33ef0$5ff6f880$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:13:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mike, I thought I saw something after Jim this AM but we have a bit of a family upset and had to quit the shack rather sharpish. Also had GI0GDP over to assist in making field strength measurements but not very successful. Based on the received field strength at 2 Km the radiated power is down in the microwatt region, which does not equate with the results I get! As I write this there is a steady carrier visible on 71.997, but what its origins might be I know not! All being well should be around until late tonight. Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14048 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 10:37:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 10:37:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11478 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 10:37:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 10:37:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wvzc-0006a7-Uh for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:34:40 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WvzZ-0006Zy-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:34:37 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19Wvrt-0007N0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:26:41 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Wvrs-0005bx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:26:41 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030630110918.00aa7578@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:26:39 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF group, Saw MI0AYZ calling me yesterday evening - good copy after I had fiddled with the RX loop orientation, but lost Ian's signal completely after sending a report. No problem this morning around 0700utc, however, with "O" reports exchanged. Ian's signal was weakly audible amongst the QRN crashes. I also had good copy of G4JNT's low power beacon on 71.900kHz at QRSS3 and QRSS10 speeds during the evening. I spent quite a while calling CQ for cross-band QSOs, but had no takers - it was rather noisy on both 73 and 136. Will be QRV again this evening - if anyone would like a sked of some sort, let me know before about 1630utc - it's your last chance ever! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8734 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 09:03:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 09:03:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8686 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 09:03:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 09:03:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WuYC-00062V-KJ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:02:16 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WuY9-00062M-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:02:13 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630090212.CWVO18592.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:02:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c33ee5$b2c08460$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:57:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Just worked Jim for what may well be my last 73KHz QSO but are there any > other takers? > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ I called you just after you worked Jim, but you obviously didn't see my sigs. Very wet here so keeping off the air in case of flash-overs. Will be active as soon as rain stops. And will be on late tonight whatever the weather. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9713 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 08:20:48 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 08:20:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26155 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 08:20:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 08:20:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wtst-0005jf-Ld for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:19:35 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.211] (helo=cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wtsq-0005jS-1n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:19:32 +0100 Received: from modem-91.angband.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.111.91] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wtsp-0000eY-7p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:19:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c33ee0$c968f080$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:21:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: final 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Heard this AM 71.865 M0BMU 71.900 G4JNT (10sec Argo ) still transmitting 0915 72.200 G3LDO Will be listening on/off during day 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23798 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 08:15:15 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 08:15:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10077 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 08:15:15 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 08:15:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wtns-0005fv-H3 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:14:24 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.141] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wtno-0005fm-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:14:20 +0100 Received: from [80.40.78.32] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Wtno-0000OM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:14:20 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:13:28 +0100 Message-ID: <01C33EE7.DEA0E640.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:13:26 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The low power beacon will be running all day. 10s dot SlowCW on 71900.000. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Ian Kyle [SMTP:ian.gi8ayz@virgin.net] Sent: 2003/06/30 07:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 73KHz final fling Just worked Jim for what may well be my last 73KHz QSO but are there any other takers? 73 de Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9194 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 07:53:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 07:53:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15645 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 07:53:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 07:53:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WtSp-0005SA-N4 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:52:39 +0100 Received: from [195.170.0.5] (helo=thalia.otenet.gr) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WtSl-0005S1-Ef for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:52:35 +0100 Received: from otenet.gr (myti364-a020.otenet.gr [195.167.114.180]) by thalia.otenet.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5U7qWTY010961; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:52:32 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3EFFD40A.AAFF0996@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:09:14 +0300 From: "Alex Deligiannis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-7?Q?Lars_K=E5lland?= , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c33836$94444f40$349fe251@a010232437> Subject: LF: Re: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission 2003-06-29. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit  

Sir,

     SAQ received only 2 DBs above noise this year. Actually the noise
was -85 and up to-75 DBm.
I didn't copy all the message by ear... but I have a lot of MBytes in
the HD and with the help of gram I can analyze and analyze the hole
transmission.

The first transmission at 08:30 I didn't copy at all, I was at my QRL
and using a SKANTI transceiver with a HF dipole converted to a Tee
Vertical I heard only the SMPSUs, computer monitors and the neon
lamps....

The second and third transmission received at my QTH with two systems.
A- 31m wire in the clear and psophometer as amplifier-conditioner
feeding the sound card
B- Vertical big loop 80m with SIEMENS Selective Level Meter.
 Result can be seen in the attached file.

I wandering if the propagation was not so good or if you feeding the
aerial with less current.

Thank you all of you  for the 2003 SAQ transmission.

73's
ALEX DELIGIANNIS SV8QG
Lesbos Is KM39gc
Mytilene
GREECE GR811.00

Lars some explanations about the spectogram...

The SAQ (-54DB) signal is between JXN (-51BD) at 16.4KHz and HWU (-32BD) at 18.3 KHZ
The line at 1200 Hz at the bottom of the spectogram is the SAQ signal from the second receiver (SLM + loop antenna) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28332 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 07:37:35 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 07:37:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 13960 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jun 2003 07:37:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 07:37:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WtCk-0005K5-Gh for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:36:02 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WtCh-0005Jw-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:35:59 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.204.155]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030630073558.JSMW14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c33ed1$d6f25ac0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:27:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just worked Jim for what may well be my last 73KHz QSO but are there any other takers? 73 de Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 564 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 21:21:15 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 21:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 22509 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 21:21:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 21:21:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wjae-0001rv-Cn for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:20:04 +0100 Received: from [165.254.4.18] (helo=mail.mcf.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wjaa-0001rh-FR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:20:00 +0100 Received: from parissn2 (213.41.137.138) by mail.mcf.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2.1) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:19:58 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c33e84$1ea48710$0700000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c33e2c$626e8840$12d1fc3e@l8p8y6> <001801c33e37$4de0b000$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:19:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Last year, couldn't hear SAQ, because mains frequency QRN here (Paris 6ème) is awful. So today, decided to try a portable radio. Took about 36m of cat-5 cable and made a 9-turn loop about a meter square, held in place with two mop handles and duct tape. Wired the 8 leads in series to make 72 turns. Connected directly to mic input of laptop; no attempt at tuning, balance, shielding, etc. Took it on the Métro to Bois de Vincennes (got a few weird looks), walked about half a km into the park. Leaned the loop against a tree and started recording. It turns out that even this modest antenna was gross overkill. The SAQ carrier was more than 60 counts on the 16 bit A/D. More importantly, the received noise was more than 30 dB above the on-board sound device's noise. All processing was done with Cool Edit, so I could see or hear the results after each step: 1. Prefilter to remove < 300 Hz (power QRN) and > 18 kHz (internal spurs). 2. Amplify to clip big noise impulses 3. Bandpass filter 17.0 - 17.4 kHz. 4. Mix with tone at 16.5 kHz. 5. Convert to low sample rate (this also removes mixing USB). 6. Final filter, 80 Hz wide. 7. Save as MP3. The final result, though not as good as Christer's recording, would be easy armchair copy, if not for the keying anomalies. You can hear it at http://www.scgroup.com/ham/saq-030629-0830-paris.mp3 . Unless I missed it last year, this is probably the first time that a Web address was broadcast world wide, using an electromechanical device! 73, Stewart KK7KA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11602 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 17:40:51 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:40:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28905 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 17:40:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:40:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wg9k-0000cc-C0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:40:04 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wg9b-0000cC-Vs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:39:56 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.36]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629173954.VRQG14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:39:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33e5d$00d14060$24e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:38:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SAQ/KEY Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

I did copy the msg  on 17.2 khz 100% and if anyone wants a copy let me know but the keying was odd especially on element length and the odd mistake hi.Fortunately I have lots of experience over the years copying odd ball morse in the aeronautical and marine environment especially around the Middle East. To the inexperienced average radio amateur they would not be able to make it out, especially those on LF.
Lots of stns calling SA6Q on 14035 khz but getting no response, obviously not been heard for some reason.
Nil heard all day on 137.7 khz the specified frequency.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV - EX /AM and /MM and fixed services.
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25350 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 17:07:47 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22314 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 17:07:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:07:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wfdk-0000KW-V2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:07:00 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wfdh-0000KN-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:06:57 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.209.191]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629170656.UXBA14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:06:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001201c33e58$7649d460$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030629155128.00aa7438@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:06:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Fine Jim, will look out for you 0700z Monday. Alan, transmit frequency now moved to 71.863 or thereabouts to get near Jim. Will revert to transmitting CQs on the hour and half hour from1800z until boredom sets in. Have had a look at the waterfall a couple of times after TXing but nothing seen. Will look again later. Many thanks . Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18777 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 17:00:42 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27858 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 17:00:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 17:00:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WfWW-0000GH-PY for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:59:32 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WfWT-0000G8-3Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:59:29 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.204.223]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629165928.URJT14037.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c33e57$6b257680$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:57:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73 KHz final fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Copying M0BMU 'O' with fades to 'M/T' at 1630z. Called him twice without success. Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7944 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 15:47:01 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 15:47:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 4163 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 15:46:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 15:46:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WeNP-0008Fp-18 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:46:03 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WeNL-0008Fg-Hc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:45:59 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19WeNG-0003E5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:45:54 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19WeNF-0006ax-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030629155128.00aa7438@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:45:49 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <004a01c33e4c$1bd84220$045bfea9@RSGB613192> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Worked G3LDO on 73kHz this morning, but only had time for a few CQs before re-wiring the station to try and work SA6Q on 137.7k after the SAQ broadcasts. The latter copied well here, RST599 as usual on an assortment of antennas and receivers, although I also noticed the keying problem - in some cases, dashes were missed at the start of a character, turning "S" into "I", "V" into "U" etc. They also seemed to spend some time tweaking the frequency before and after the transmissions. The final broadcast seemed to be slightly better. I had the electro-mechanical RX going again - the absence of GBR makes the tuning less critical, since it is no longer necessary to zero-beat the 16kHz signal. I didn't have much luck with SA6Q; I saw some manual CW being sent on 137.7kHz, but it was below audible level. On 14.035MHz they were quite strong, but seemed to be having trouble copying the stations calling them, and shut down before the scheduled time. I will shortly head off home and change things back to 73kHz again, and see what is happening. If nothing much is going on, I will try for some cross-band QRSS contacts transmitting between 71.8 and 71.9kHz (There are several weak carriers around 72.0k at my QTH), receiving around 137.7kHz. I should be QRV by about 1630utc. I will also be QRV again tomorrow morning from about 0700utc for a few hours - Ian, if that is OK, I will look for you between 71.8 and 71.9 then. If the noise level is reasonably low, I might try for some cross-band CW or QRSS contacts, if anyone is interested. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29571 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 14:47:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 14:47:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25623 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 14:47:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 14:47:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WdRk-0007sn-55 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:46:28 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WdRg-0007se-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:46:24 +0100 Received: from Iian ([62.252.204.208]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629144623.WHQE5914.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@Iian> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c33e44$da5975a0$d0ccfc3e@gi8ayz> From: "IAN KYLE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:44:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jim, saw you this am and called but no dice. Could we try an early morning sked Monday? I am feeling very lonely despite having more RF going up the pipe than ever before. You name the time - my only committment is post1030a to go out and about with the loop and measure the field strength to complete the station details. 73, Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16800 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 14:37:36 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 14:37:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 1990 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 14:37:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 14:37:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WdIK-0007lB-VO for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:36:44 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WdIH-0007l2-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:36:41 +0100 Received: from [80.40.54.162] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19WdIG-0003B5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:36:40 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01c33e4c$1bd84220$045bfea9@RSGB613192> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:38:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'm keeping a low power SLOWCW transmission running. Frequency 71900.000Hz. dot length 3s, power output to antenna 5W, so about 100uW ERP. Andy G4JNT (remembered not to use G8IMR this time !!) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9690 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 13:58:37 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:58:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10281 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 13:58:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:58:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wcgj-0007Y2-Im for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:57:53 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wcgg-0007Xt-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:57:50 +0100 Received: from dial81-135-76-15.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.76.15] helo=dave) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19Wcgf-0006wM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:57:49 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EFEFEC8.27440.3E9F98@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: LF: SAQ 0830, 1230z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In the past when I have copied the SAQ transmissions it was with extra capacitance across the tuned input of my LF converter (circuit on my website somewhere!). I had long since tidied up the converter and the right capacitors were nowhere in sight. Just before the 0830 transmission I decided to have a listen anyway and had a frantic seach in the capacitor draw for a suitable sized one. These days there is no strong signal on 16kHz, but by trial and guesswork I found with 8.2nF across the air ganged tuning capacitor I could just hear SAQ - so I copied what was left of the message with my holding the cap across the terminals with my fingers! I was out for the rest of the morning, but came up after lunch around 1215z. Out with the soldering iron and the 8.2nF cap soldered temporarily in place. SAQ was already testing! Further playing around showed I needed more capacitance, so an extra 1000pF was dabbed across, now SAQ was a good 589 signal but competing somewhat with the TV SMPSU racket. Amazing how sharp the resonances are down here - 1000pF was sufficient to move the resonance down from the 18kHz data transmission to 17kHz. Most of the 1430 transmission copied, but there was noticeable QSB and some of the letters seemed foreshortened, making it a little hard to copy the actual text under the TV racket. I understand now there were keying problems which explained that. Hardly in the same category as Jim's mechanical receiver (did you dig it out again?), but certainly somewhat Heath Robinson here! Caps now unsoldered (but left in the box for next time). TV racket on 73kHz found 20 over 9, so no chance there. Certainly an early morning band before the neighbours get up! 73 Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21718 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 13:24:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:24:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 13:24:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:24:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wc9X-0007Gp-Uc for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:23:35 +0100 Received: from [213.218.75.236] (helo=smtp07.freeler.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Wc9T-0007Gg-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:23:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 3979 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 13:18:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w8k3f0.freeler.nl) ([62.21.132.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp07.freeler.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jun 2003 13:18:12 -0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030629145937.009fe1e0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:16:42 +0200 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_K=E5lland?= From: "Dick Rollema" Cc: "LF-Group" , "W.F. Oorschot" , info@alexander.n.se In-reply-to: <000b01c33836$94444f40$349fe251@a010232437> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission 2003-06-29. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Lars,

I listened to the SAQ transmissions at 0830 and 1230 UTC ; was  away from home at 1030 UTC.

I had good copy, though keying seemed a bit erratic.

The antenna system for the 136kHz band was used, with an extra capacitance of 26nF in parallel with the tuning/matching coil to make the system more or less resonant at 17.2kHz. The receiver was a Wandel & Goltermann selective level meter type SPM-12, connected to a tap near the bottom of the coil. The signal at the input of the SPM-12 was 4.4 microvolt.

I did not hear SA6Q on 137.7kHz or 14215kHz when I listened around 1300 UTC.

Many thanks to the Grimeton crew for keeping SAQ operational and bringing the old transmitter on the air!

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 22:46 21-6-03 +0200, you wrote:

"CQ CQ CQ DE SAQ SAQ SAQ"


This year the Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission will be on Sunday 29th June with the VLF Alexanderson alternator on 17,2 kHz. There will be three transmissions with the same message, at 08:30 UTC, 10:30 UTC AND 12:30 UTC.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6773 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 13:11:01 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:11:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1316 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 13:11:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 13:11:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WbwX-0007Cx-7q for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:10:09 +0100 Received: from [209.225.8.30] (helo=remt20.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WbwT-0007Cj-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:10:05 +0100 Received: from [66.189.53.206] (HELO johncellarnew) by remt20.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with SMTP id 77596755 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:09:34 -0400 Message-ID: <001801c33e37$4de0b000$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c33e2c$626e8840$12d1fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false SAQ was audible here in Massachusetts this morning. I auto-recorded the 0830 and 1030 feeds, but stupidly left the NR (noise reduction) enabled on my receiver before retiring last night. That removed a lot of the audio! The signal was well buried in the noise, but the VVV's and CQ DE SAQ's were pretty easy copy. Not so for the text, though I will play with the recording later. The 1230 feed was heard live, and again the preliminary stuff was understandable, but only occasional words could be copied during the text section. Anyway, not bad for a summertime daylight T/A signal, even on that frequency! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17539 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 11:53:09 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 11:53:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16245 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 11:53:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 11:53:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Wait-0006gc-He for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:51:59 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Waip-0006gT-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:51:56 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.209.18]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629115154.KMYK18420.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:51:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33e2c$626e8840$12d1fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:50:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SAQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Special stn SAQ on 17.2 khz approx 599 here in Scarborough/IO94SH - message copied 100% at 0828/0835 utc
Stn SA6Q on 14035 khz 559 with bad qsb because of freq and skip to this QTH. 7035 would be a better QRG for around EU.
Lots of stns calling SA6Q while he was transmitting obviously not hearing him properly and generating lots of QRM for others that could hear him and trying to work.
So far NIL hrd on 137.7 khz CW
 
73 De Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16535 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 10:42:35 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 10:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26862 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 10:42:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 10:42:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WZcm-0006KG-HG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:41:36 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WZcj-0006K7-35 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:41:33 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.208.50]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629104132.NOCV392.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7>; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:41:32 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c33e22$99e5f2e0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: info@alexander.n.se Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:40:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 1030UTC SAQ transmission. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The 0830 report was on roughly resonated antenna. UR RST now 589QRN in IO64XM on antenna resonant at 73 KHz. Best regards, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23063 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 09:49:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:49:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27011 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 09:49:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:49:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WYni-0005uG-VJ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:48:50 +0100 Received: from [213.214.194.101] (helo=smtp1.home.se) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WYnf-0005u7-Di for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:48:47 +0100 Received: from foo 050140599@home.se [195.162.90.26] by smtp1.home.se with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.22.1.3 $ on Novell NetWare; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:47:43 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c33e23$9a5bf0c0$1a5aa2c3@xpress.se> From: "Christer Andersson" <050140599@home.se> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <000f01c33e22$6320a5c0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:48:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Christer Andersson" <050140599@home.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SV: Re: SAQ nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=FROM_ALL_NUMS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Here's a MP3-recording http://www.qsl.net/sm6pxj/saq/ According to a telephone conversation with the SAQ team, they have a keying problem which makes the characters too short. /Christer ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- Från: "Mike Dennison" Till: Skickat: den 29 juni 2003 11:39 Ämne: LF: Re: SAQ nil > > did anyone of you copy SAQ on 17.2 kHz this morning? I couldn't hear > > anything, prossibly because one of those PSU's in the neighborhood making > a > > terrible noise at around 18 kHz. > > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) > > Yes, I listened to SAQ for the first time. It was about 569 at 0830UTC, > using my antenna tuned to 73kHz. > > "Radio Grimeton calling the world ....." > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 592 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 09:38:04 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:38:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 7794 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 09:38:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:38:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WYcQ-0005mu-73 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:37:10 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WYcM-0005ml-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:37:06 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629093706.DQHB4771.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:37:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c33e22$6320a5c0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:39:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > did anyone of you copy SAQ on 17.2 kHz this morning? I couldn't hear > anything, prossibly because one of those PSU's in the neighborhood making a > terrible noise at around 18 kHz. > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) Yes, I listened to SAQ for the first time. It was about 569 at 0830UTC, using my antenna tuned to 73kHz. "Radio Grimeton calling the world ....." Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27325 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 09:00:19 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:00:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5862 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 09:00:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 09:00:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WY22-0005ak-5E for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:59:34 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WY1y-0005aZ-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:59:30 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.205.4]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030629085930.DNAH291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:59:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c33e14$572338e0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 08:57:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re SAQ, BMU et al. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Geri, Jim and all, SAQ 599QRN withme from startup, but dropped badly towards end of transmission. Saw Jim and replied to him at 0745 but no luck. His signal was much down on normal with me. Been calling my head off every half hour since yesterday morning but feeling very lonely! 73, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32364 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 08:49:00 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13630 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 08:49:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:49:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WXqw-0005TC-5K for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:48:06 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.171] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WXqs-0005T3-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:48:02 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WXqs-0003nX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:48:02 +0200 Received: from [80.81.15.185] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WXqr-0007Td-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:48:02 +0200 Message-ID: <003601c33e1a$edc3cd90$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:46:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SAQ nil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi folks, did anyone of you copy SAQ on 17.2 kHz this morning? I couldn't hear anything, prossibly because one of those PSU's in the neighborhood making a terrible noise at around 18 kHz. 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12471 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 08:13:58 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:13:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18718 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 08:13:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:13:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WXJD-0005Hy-Pz for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:13:15 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WXJA-0005Hp-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:13:12 +0100 Received: from host213-122-168-134.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.168.134] helo=dave) by carbon.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19WXJ9-0000DO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:13:11 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:14:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EFEAE00.25201.A846F3@localhost> In-reply-to: <3EFDE5EE.25502.2B8594B@localhost> References: <000d01c33d62$4a786780$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Sat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On 28 Jun 2003 at 19:01, Dave Sergeant wrote: > All I > here down there is noise from TV SMPSUs and no hope of hearing > anything at all - even the 75kHz time standard is not that far above > the noise. Well listening this morning the QRM was much lower and I heard Peter G3LDO and Jim M0BMU in QSO each about 579 on the long wire. I couldn't however hear Mike G3XDV. At least one more new call heard on the band before we lose it! And just heard Dave G3YXM with a good signal working Peter. Like old days! I see that some of the QRM comes from my own computer monitor, but nothing as bad as what I was getting yesterday from the TVs. 73 Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6497 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 08:01:16 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:01:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22775 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Jun 2003 08:01:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 08:01:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WX6u-0005Ad-7d for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:00:32 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WX6q-0005AU-IK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:00:28 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WX6q-0001YF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:00:28 +0200 Received: from [80.81.15.185] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WX6q-0004wp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: <002a01c33e14$48d0d720$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:58:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Saw M0BMU on 72.010 kHz this morning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Jim, I saw you calling cq this morning on 72.010 kHz QRSS, but very weak only (about T/M) with a lot of noise on top of your signal. Tried to answer you on 136.690 kHz QRSS but obvioulsy you were not listening there. Hope to see some more signals on 73. 73 (!) Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz > > Dear LF Group, > > Blew the dust off the 73kHz PA and had some QSOs with other regulars on the > band this morning - I have been sending beacon signals on 72.35kHz most of > the afternoon, consisting of a mix of CW and QRSS3, on the off-chance that > casual listeners might be tuning in to the band. I am now QRT while I check > this e-mail at work, and do some shopping - but I will probably be back on > again later in the evening, when I will look out for other stations on 73k, > or might try for some cross-band 73k - 136k QSOs of anyone is interested > and the QRN does not become too ridiculous. > > Tomorrow morning I will be looking at 72.0k+/- around 0700utc - 0800utc > before listening for SAQ at 0830 and later times, but will probably try > 73kHz again in the afternoon. I plan to take a few hours off on Monday AM, > and will try to check my e-mail between now and then,so that would probably > be the best time for any skeds. Then I will be QRV again in the evening for > the last few hours of 73k. > Hope to see you there, > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26765 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 07:43:34 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 07:43:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26498 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2003 07:43:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2003 07:43:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WWp3-000534-Br for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 08:42:05 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WWoz-00052v-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 08:42:01 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WWoz-0005in-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:42:01 +0200 Received: from [80.81.15.185] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19WWoz-00041U-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:42:01 +0200 Message-ID: <002101c33e11$b4fe0ba0$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <001101c33da0$90421f20$1c00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:40:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Listening on 72.000 kHz +/- 50 Hz for QRSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, I am currently listening on 72.000 kHz +/- 50 Hz in QRSS. I will switch to SAQ during their transmission times but will return to 72.00 in between. If I catch someone from the UK calling, I will replay around 137.700 kHz QRSS. Hope to see some final signals from this fine band. Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12499 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 18:09:54 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 18:09:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16041 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 18:09:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 18:09:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WK8F-0008An-Nw for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:09:03 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WK8C-0008Ae-64 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:09:00 +0100 Received: from host217-35-5-118.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.5.118] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19WK8B-0001aM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:08:59 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c33da0$90421f20$1c00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:10:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim and all... I've also made a noise on 73k, worked Jim and Mike, during the QSO with Jim a family of spiders (now deceased) caused a flash-over in the loading coil which I had to clear. I then left a beacon running in QRSS3 with 6wpm I.D.s That lasted about an hour until an insulator caught fire and the aerial came down.... It was a nice afternoon so a trip onto the roof to replace the insulator was no hardship and I'll be back tomorrow morning before the static builds up. I don't know how long it'll last before something else fails though... probably a good job we won't be able to operate on 73k much longer... It's too labour-intensive! I'm sure Mike agrees? 73 Dave G3YXM. > Blew the dust off the 73kHz PA and had some QSOs with other regulars on the > band this morning - I have been sending beacon signals on 72.35kHz most of > the afternoon, From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16222 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 18:00:23 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 18:00:23 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2312 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 18:00:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 18:00:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WJzG-00085n-9J for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:59:46 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WJzC-00085Z-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:59:42 +0100 Received: from host213-122-212-137.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.212.137] helo=dave) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19WJzB-00001y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:59:42 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:01:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EFDE5EE.25502.2B8594B@localhost> In-reply-to: <000d01c33d62$4a786780$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Sat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Reading the mails with interest I took a listen down on 73kHz with my long wire, having not listened down there for some time. In the 'good old days' soon after we got the band I heard quite a lot of activity, including if I remember right Peter G3LDO at excellent signals. All I here down there is noise from TV SMPSUs and no hope of hearing anything at all - even the 75kHz time standard is not that far above the noise. That is what is the most significant change in the band over recent years, the rise in TV generated QRM. It affects 136 here as well these days, which limits any operation here to early mornings and weekday daytime (when there is nobody on..). I guess if the PLT chaps get their way the hf bands will soon be just as bad.. 73 Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14534 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 17:58:09 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 17:58:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 23569 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 17:58:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 17:58:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WJww-00082f-RA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:57:22 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WJwt-00082W-93 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:57:19 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.4]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628175717.KFZ18309.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33d96$4497e5a0$04cdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:56:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF ACTY Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
To day Saturday worked SM1, F6 this morning and now early evening OH5ARO is calling CQ qrs in amongst the QRN, very weak, strong enough for a QSO but will await a CW QSO, more satisfying for me.
Listened on and off on 73 khz but at my listening times saw/heard nothing. Resonated the antenna for 73 khz but now back to 137 khz, the acty ON 73 khz does not justify the effort.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19654 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 17:01:18 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 17:01:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28016 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 17:01:18 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 17:01:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WJ3d-0007g5-H9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:00:13 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WJ3Z-0007fw-VN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:00:10 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19WJ3R-0007NB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:00:01 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19WJ3Q-0007LJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:00:00 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030628173442.02a8c008@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:59:59 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <000d01c33d6e$d7af6980$5967fea9@p4o2b7> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: final 73Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Blew the dust off the 73kHz PA and had some QSOs with other regulars on the band this morning - I have been sending beacon signals on 72.35kHz most of the afternoon, consisting of a mix of CW and QRSS3, on the off-chance that casual listeners might be tuning in to the band. I am now QRT while I check this e-mail at work, and do some shopping - but I will probably be back on again later in the evening, when I will look out for other stations on 73k, or might try for some cross-band 73k - 136k QSOs of anyone is interested and the QRN does not become too ridiculous. Tomorrow morning I will be looking at 72.0k+/- around 0700utc - 0800utc before listening for SAQ at 0830 and later times, but will probably try 73kHz again in the afternoon. I plan to take a few hours off on Monday AM, and will try to check my e-mail between now and then,so that would probably be the best time for any skeds. Then I will be QRV again in the evening for the last few hours of 73k. Hope to see you there, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32466 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 14:39:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 14:39:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5879 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 14:39:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 14:39:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WGqp-0006il-U0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:38:51 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WGqm-0006ic-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:38:48 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628143847.HUNA16215.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:38:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33d83$5efaa300$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c33d6e$d7af6980$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000901c33d7b$a775e8e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000401c33d75$a8564580$39cdfc3e@gi8ayz> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:41:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 73Khz Sat. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > little wonder the screen remained blank! Will move operation up to that area > now and carry on on 73 dead. > Fine for sked Monday, pick your time and let me know. Sorry, Ian, but my brain has been exposed to too much LF. I meant to say between 71.9 and 72.3kHz, so you are in the right place already. Mike === From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31256 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 14:04:04 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 14:04:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22183 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 14:03:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 14:03:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WGIP-0006Sa-6d for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:03:17 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WGIL-0006SR-HX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:03:13 +0100 Received: from Iian ([62.252.205.57]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628140310.DXCJ13147.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@Iian> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c33d75$a8564580$39cdfc3e@gi8ayz> From: "IAN KYLE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c33d6e$d7af6980$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000901c33d7b$a775e8e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:00:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73Khz Sat. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mni tnx Mike, little wonder the screen remained blank! Will move operation up to that area now and carry on on 73 dead. Fine for sked Monday, pick your time and let me know. 73, Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7472 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 13:43:53 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 13:43:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26753 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 13:43:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 13:43:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WFyz-0006I2-6d for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:43:13 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WFyr-0006Ht-1w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:43:05 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628134304.ZIKT28183.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:43:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c33d7b$a775e8e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c33d6e$d7af6980$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:46:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73Khz Sat. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > What frequency/ies were in use this AM? I was monitoring 72KHz plus or minus > 50Hz all morning and calling CQ on QRSS3 on the hour and half hour and > didn't hear or see a dickybird! Ian, We were all between 72.9 and 73.3kHz. Most had bad QRM from SMPSUs after about 9am. Best time is very early. Want a sked on Monday? Active stations were G3XDV, M0BMU, G3AQC, G3LDO and G3YXM. Jim is still beaconing NOW, alternately CW and QRSS on 72.36kHz. > Will continue on the same basis this afternoon and evening, but am not > on-line permanently, so I shall check the mailbox at the quarter hours. If > anyone sees or hears anything or wants a sked, please let me know. Also > available any time right up to 2359z Monday. Will listen/look for you but Wimbledon is on the telly so QRM is awful! Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10505 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 13:15:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 13:15:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16674 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 13:15:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 13:15:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WFXV-00062u-Ft for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:14:49 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WFXR-00062f-U8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:14:46 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.205.37]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628131444.TALC18309.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c33d6e$d7af6980$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:12:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73Khz Sat. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false What frequency/ies were in use this AM? I was monitoring 72KHz plus or minus 50Hz all morning and calling CQ on QRSS3 on the hour and half hour and didn't hear or see a dickybird! Will continue on the same basis this afternoon and evening, but am not on-line permanently, so I shall check the mailbox at the quarter hours. If anyone sees or hears anything or wants a sked, please let me know. Also available any time right up to 2359z Monday. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13276 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 10:43:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 10:43:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22557 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 10:43:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 10:43:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WDAL-00059L-CS for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:42:45 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WDAD-00059C-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:42:37 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628104235.USTU16215.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:42:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c33d62$4a786780$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:44:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz Sat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false There are two things that always seem to surprise me when changing from 136kHz to 73kHz: the huge amount of extra inductance needed to resonate my small antenna; and the enormous voltages generated at this frequency. Both of these caused me trouble when setting up on Friday for the 73kHz Final Fling. At first I got my usual 1A antenna current from the 200W BK amp, then the current dropped to a very low level. Panic! Had I blown up the amplifier (fixable in a couple of hours) or had the elevated coil flashed over (fixable in a day after recruiting assistance to drop the pole)? A check with my Decca on 136kHz showed that the fault was also on that band, so it wasn't the Tx. I could hear fizzing so I suspected something was flashing over. I couldn't trace it so waited until dark. All was revealed then in a pyrotechnic display from inside the tube carrying the antenna through the house wall. I pulled out the cable and found it badly burned. Replacing this with some UR67 fixed the problem. I went to bed happy that all was well - a mistake! Early Saturday morning, I did a final tune-up and had an antenna current of just over 1A. However I could hear more fizzing noises. To make a long story short, after two hours I had moved the bottom loading coil outside as even the UR67 was glowing like a purple florescent light. Moving the coil had the advantage of reducing the voltage passing through the wall and this stopped all of the flashing over. However, because it was now further up the antenna, its effect was less, and the resonant frequency went up to 75kHz! Experience told me that I would have to add a surprising amount of inductance to bring this down to 72kHz, and I already had my three big coils in circuit. Experience also told me the quick fix - tape some ferrite pieces to a plastic pipe and move it inside one of my coils (note that not all ferrite is suitable - some gets very hot). At last I had a working system, and the best current ever at 1.3A. Result: three CW QSOs, G3LDO, G3AQC and M0BMU. I will beacon for some of today, using CW and QRSS3. Please E-mail me for skeds or requests for longer QRSS. Will also be active Sunday. And Monday, too, right up to 2359UTC. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20359 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 09:35:57 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 09:35:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24080 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 09:35:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 09:35:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WC6b-0004hy-HA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:34:49 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WC6X-0004hp-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:34:46 +0100 Received: from [80.225.220.59] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19WC6W-0000O6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c33d58$c38203c0$045bfea9@RSGB613192> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c33d54$1bdfb9e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:35:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz this AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false OMG!!!!!!!!!! I was just testing out my old 73kHz loading coil - with the possibility of the odd QSO. Plugged in the beacon keyer and didn't notice it was still set from the last 10GHz event where I use the alternative callsign to confuse people. Was running about 80W of RF, which if memory of 6 years ago serves right, equates to something like 8mW ERP. It was only on for a couple of seconds! Tuning earlier with the low power Tx runing abt 300uW ERP Andy G4JNT / G8IMR ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Mayhead To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: LF: 73kHz this AM > Heard Peter G3LDO and worked Mike G3XDV, but who was tuning from abt > 0930-0945 on 72.4 +/- thought I heard the callsign G8IMR but ? > 73 Laurie. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13792 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 09:00:54 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 09:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17932 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Jun 2003 09:00:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 09:00:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WBZ1-0004Vk-0q for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:00:07 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.175] (helo=cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WBYx-0004Vb-HR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:00:03 +0100 Received: from modem-49.annatar.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.115.177] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WBYw-0007Vi-LS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:00:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c33d54$1bdfb9e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:01:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz this AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Heard Peter G3LDO and worked Mike G3XDV, but who was tuning from abt 0930-0945 on 72.4 +/- thought I heard the callsign G8IMR but ? 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6055 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 08:02:42 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 08:02:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24287 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2003 08:02:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 08:02:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19WAeT-0004Aw-Ff for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:01:41 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19WAeP-0004An-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:01:37 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.204.23]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030628080136.SHNY13147.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:01:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c33d43$0b116b60$17ccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33b31$86635940$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000201c33bfc$68ffd560$04e9fc3e@l8p8y6> <007401c33c8e$ee33ca60$41eb23d4@k7t> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:55:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Getting wires over trees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: LF: Getting wires over trees > Mal, > > Forget the bow and arrow; get yourself a high-power crossbow. I have a > 200-lb draw one that will put monofilament 50lb fishing line over 100 ft > trees 150ft away and land 300ft beyond it. It is also very accurate and does > not require you to build up muscle power to draw like a traditional bow and > arrow. Problem is, you can't reduce its power for smaller trees and > distances so I had to get some less powerful ones (80/150 lbs). Make my own > arrows from 6 mm copper tubing. Hi Walter Send the big one up here. I expect that is an expensive machine for a one off job hi. I have been using a catapult but cannot get the proper surgical rubber long enough for the big thrust. The standard bit of rubber that comes with the catapults of today is not sufficient for the job and the old bicycle inner tube these days has no stretch. Years ago with real rubber they were a terrific source of good elastic for long haul cannon launches and other things. Tnx info de Mal/G3KEV > > Walter G3JKV. > > > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11078 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 22:37:18 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 22:37:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 27896 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 22:37:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 22:37:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19W1pF-0001R9-CE for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:36:13 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19W1pB-0001R0-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:36:09 +0100 Received: from host213-122-107-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.107.211] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19W1pA-0006n7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01c33cfc$71178da0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030627160106.00aa70a8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:34:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz/ IEE conference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jim, John and Mike, well done, though many may not realise, I am sure that it is efforts like this that gains us some of the priviledges we have. I remember a collegue of mine in radio bemoaning that his graduates entrants knew how to solve the equations but didnt know how to get RF "up in the air".... he finally sent then on a PMR technician course which they enjoyed immensely. He was an very practical amateur of many years standing. I think that the professionals always seem to have time for reports of real practical experiments....maybe a pleasurable relief from all those "hard sums" !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: 27 June 2003 16:46 Subject: LF: 73kHz/ IEE conference > Dear LF Group, > > I hope to be QRV over the weekend, as well as on Monday, on 73k - will send > a note to the reflector once I am ready to go. > > During the week, I attended the IEE conference "HF Radio Systems & > Techniques 2003" in Bath, and presented a paper on the field strength and > impedance measurements on LF antennas I performed a while back. This went > down quite well, and generated a good deal of conversation afterwards with > various well-known people in the professional LF and HF world. John, G3WKL > also presented a well-received paper on "Amateur Radio at 30MHz and Below", > and Prof. Mike Underhill, G3LHZ also had a couple of papers, so amateurs > were well represented. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12932 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 19:50:00 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 19:50:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 6901 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 19:49:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 19:49:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VzDP-0000Yn-TO for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:48:59 +0100 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VzDM-0000Ye-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:48:56 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@bocedwards.com X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1056743326!329373 Received: (qmail 4751 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 19:48:46 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-20.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 19:48:46 -0000 Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MK87X5P2; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:54:17 +0100 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:48:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:48:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Getting wires over trees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Walter, I thought I was was the king of the arrow-shooting crowd but that crossbow beats me by almost 4X! Is this for a giant loop antenna? (missed the original post) I used to make my arrows as well but found Wal-Mart has descent Aluminum ones for only $3.50. Bill A PS: Be careful!!!!! >Forget the bow and arrow; get yourself a high-power crossbow. I have a >200-lb draw one that will put monofilament 50lb fishing line over 100 ft >trees 150ft away and land 300ft beyond it. It is also very accurate and does >not require you to build up muscle power to draw like a traditional bow and >arrow. Problem is, you can't reduce its power for smaller trees and >distances so I had to get some less powerful ones (80/150 lbs). Make my own >arrows from 6 mm copper tubing. >Walter G3JKV. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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For further information visit http://www.mci.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9757 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 18:19:29 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 18:19:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1835 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 18:19:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 18:19:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VxnD-0008OI-Hz for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:17:51 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VxnA-0008O9-1d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:17:48 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19VvQn-0007iZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:46:33 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19VvQm-0006yw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030627160106.00aa70a8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:46:31 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: 73kHz/ IEE conference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, I hope to be QRV over the weekend, as well as on Monday, on 73k - will send a note to the reflector once I am ready to go. During the week, I attended the IEE conference "HF Radio Systems & Techniques 2003" in Bath, and presented a paper on the field strength and impedance measurements on LF antennas I performed a while back. This went down quite well, and generated a good deal of conversation afterwards with various well-known people in the professional LF and HF world. John, G3WKL also presented a well-received paper on "Amateur Radio at 30MHz and Below", and Prof. Mike Underhill, G3LHZ also had a couple of papers, so amateurs were well represented. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27869 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 16:12:51 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 16:12:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14859 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Jun 2003 16:12:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 16:12:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VvpL-0007im-Ft for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:11:55 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VvpH-0007iY-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:11:51 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.209.125]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030627161150.WPFL291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c33cbe$fa2fdf40$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:14:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73 KHz activity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Have been monitoring 73KHz all last night and today without seeing anything except a carrier on 71.97 which must have appeared at around 1100z and a couple of smpsus which came on at Wimbledon start time. This evening I shall put out QRSS3 CQ calls on or around 72KHz at 20 minute intervals commencing at 1930z and continuing until such time as I get either a response or fed up - which will probably be around local mudnight. No misprint, that. Rain so heavy it got into the new coil housing. Happily antenna current seems unaffected. Hoping fervently for more activity Sat/Sun/Mon. 73, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8600 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 15:55:32 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 15:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11793 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 15:55:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 15:55:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VvYK-0007X0-Ju for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:54:20 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VvYH-0007Wr-1f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:54:17 +0100 Received: from host213-122-193-26.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.193.26] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19VvYG-0004oT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:54:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c33cc4$50164840$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:53:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz Final Fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I will run my web capture waterfall on 73.1kHz LSB (so signals between 72.8 and the bottom of the band displayed and ruler reads correctly ) tonight and for the next three days at usual activity times. The direct URL to the page is http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/periodic.htm I apologise for the TV SMPSUs that may wipe it from time to time. This is one reason I have not had a lot of enthusiasm for activating my NoV. They do seem to be much worse on 73 that on 136 at this location. So...have a play even if there is no one around to work !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3449 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 14:45:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 14:45:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2134 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Jun 2003 14:45:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 14:45:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VuSZ-00071K-Jo for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:44:19 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.101] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VuSV-00071B-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:44:15 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:43:44 -0700 Received: from 24.237.8.95 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:43:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.8.95] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:43:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2003 14:43:44.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[8215B470:01C33CBA] Subject: LF: Ghana - wrap up. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ed - all The licencing still had not been sorted out before I left Accra on the night of the 25th. A lot of the Ghana officials are in WRC so that slowed down the application made on May 4 - Ghana NCA says I sholuld have allowed 6-8 weeks as my application has to be approved by the technical assessment board which sits monthly. My application only applied for RX 136Khz but there is a chance I may go back next year so Im going to reapply and ask for a provision for TX 136. I can get a good tx Tee up at the Accra fieldbase and local QRN, apart from Lightning is low. Adequate Insulation/ers is going to be a topic! As far as the best time on the year for Central Africa/EU Russia/USA, I think If Id hung around for another week or so Id have a full call sign from someone, even in the middle of the summer, and given the high level of t'storm /Geo/Solar activity to the North on the summer path, and given that Ghana has sort of started the rainy season it really couldnt have been a worse time . The best confirmed part of a call was from Peter LDO on the last hours of my station being on the air! (A certain common law applies here) No Loran lines seen over the sections of band I was looking at - it was clear. The two daily propagation methods seen very very striking. Daytime D layer reflections started at around 0800Z and produced quite stable and low levels of signal (around -130dBm), fast ramp up ito max averaging signal within 15 minutes of becoming visible at dot 60 - slow fading pattern - and then gradual loss of signals between 1430-1600Z. Night-time mode started at around 1910-40Z, again ramping up very fast in level producing deep QSB but stronger peaks by 2200-0200Z up -83dBm the nightime mode died suddenly dissapears around 0410Z Audible CW, understandibly, would have been very very difficult as you can imagine with near constant 20-30dB over 9 hits, Im not sure but from my experiments that QRSS3 wouldnt have given much better results given the QRN. The 870 with AGC off and NB on did a great job with the QRN/Heat. We didnt have airconditioning so temps in the office averaged 90-100F with high levels of water vapor. I think the Northern winter, as ever, will produce the best results. The rainy season sort of stops locally in Sept/October but there is always some year round t'storm activity to the North over Mali and Burkina Faso, but Eu would be much lower in QRN I learnt a lot on this trip - but the overall engineering looked ok for a rerun and the set up wont be changed, apart from extending the coax from 150 to 250ft and re-resonating the loop. The visual state of DCF39 under Argo, dot 30/60 has also been clear up for me (thanks). Im back In Alaska and will now have a look at the captures from this station whilst Ive been away. Laurence KL1X >na > >Laurence, TNX for the very difficult efforts! > >Accepted by you in Ghana about 5 thousand(?) Argocaps have the large >advantage! >It is interesting to me to look at the African lines-QRM - Loran's & others >and DCF39-levels in Ghana. >What period of a season is favorable for work from Africa on 136? >(QRM+QRN+propagation+weather) >Whether is solved where in Africa officially 136 now? > >Who the following will go to open Africa on 136? > >73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru > > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9941 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 09:34:24 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 09:34:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 1125 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 09:34:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 09:34:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Vpa9-0004xS-61 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:31:49 +0100 Received: from [212.241.168.226] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Vpa5-0004xI-2B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:31:45 +0100 Received: from k7t (65.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.65]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with SMTP id h5R9Vhbj017716 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:31:44 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c33c8e$ee33ca60$41eb23d4@k7t> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33b31$86635940$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000201c33bfc$68ffd560$04e9fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:31:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Getting wires over trees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mal, Forget the bow and arrow; get yourself a high-power crossbow. I have a 200-lb draw one that will put monofilament 50lb fishing line over 100 ft trees 150ft away and land 300ft beyond it. It is also very accurate and does not require you to build up muscle power to draw like a traditional bow and arrow. Problem is, you can't reduce its power for smaller trees and distances so I had to get some less powerful ones (80/150 lbs). Make my own arrows from 6 mm copper tubing. Walter G3JKV. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10335 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 17:06:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 17:06:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12364 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Jun 2003 17:06:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 17:06:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Va9o-0000YP-S2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:03:36 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Va9l-0000YF-92 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:03:33 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.4]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030626170326.VBRY13147.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:03:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c33bfc$68ffd560$04e9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c33b31$86635940$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:28:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: LF: 73 KHz > Hi all, > > home is the sailor just last night back from DL; ES; OH; OZ; RA & SM and > ready to mourn the passing of 73KHz as from tonight. After restringing the > couple of broken top loading wires have just tested on both bands and things > appear to be still more or less the way they were before we went cruising > "forn parts", save that the antenna tap for 73 could do with being up a > couple more turns as max O/P is now achieved at 72.1KHz rather than 71.85 - > must have pulled the halyards a bit tighter! > > After wading through the 657 messages in the in-box, it looks like there > won't be much of a 'wake' but I shall be available for final skeds right to > the bitter end and just maybe a QSO with KEV, who has not yet appeared in > the log for 73. I wonder which one of us is avoiding the other, Mal? Hi Ian At this time of year very QRL Cutting and baling hay, steering tractor mower around lawns, plus a host of other things, Refreshments and BBQ activities each evening when wx permits, satellite refurbishment at present, dishes, feeds etc. The odd QSO on 137 khz in spite of severe QRN just recently. With the above on going activities I will not have enough time to get the 73 khz inductor out and installed for the grand finale. Off tomorrow to MALTON agriculture show and apart from the machinery and livestock I am looking for bows and arrows and heavy duty catapults for launching antenna wires over tall trees !!!! preferably something that could be coupled to a tractor power take off hydraulic system. Enjoy the last throes of 73 and hpe to work u agn soon on one of the other bands de Mal/G3KEV > > Ah well, it was fun while it lasted, so let's give it a good send-off. I'll > put out a CQ or two tonight on 72.00 plus or minus a noise line in both > QRSS3 and hand speed just in case. > > 73 etc, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21434 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 14:00:54 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 14:00:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17718 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 14:00:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 14:00:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VXHq-0006iv-Gh for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:59:42 +0100 Received: from [161.53.16.179] (helo=ham2.cc.fer.hr ident=postfix) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VXHm-0006il-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:59:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CE89360B for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:59:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ham2.cc.fer.hr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ham2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03372-03 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 9a0tcp.ampr.org (ham1.cc.fer.hr [161.53.16.178]) by ham2.cc.fer.hr (Postfix) with SMTP id CFFEC93600 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 9a0tcp.ampr.org [44.170.1.10] by 9a0tcp.ampr.org (TNOS_ZAGREB) with SMTP id AA23010 ; Thu, 26 Jun 03 15:48:57 CEST X-BBS-Msg-Type: P Date: Thu, 26 Jun 03 15:47:53 CEST Message-ID: <5126@9A0TCP> From: dl8aam@9a0tcp.ampr.org To: hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx, com@ham2.cc.fer.hr Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis+phx (Debian) Subject: LF: Hi, X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit a bit off-topic, but might be also of some interesst ? Today I got a QSL-card from the german longwave timesignal radio station DCF77 on 77.5 kHz for a SWL-report to their email address: time@ptb.de Not a really "nice" full-color, but a QSL ;-) 73, Tom - DL8AAM More timesignal QSL card immages (e.g. WWV, WWVH and some since decades "off-the-air" station on my QSL gallery via http://people.freenet.de/troesne -> Amateur Radio -> Timesignal QSL Question: Any QSL info (maybe email) for the longwave stns DCF39 etc. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18463 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 09:50:24 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 09:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 12042 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Jun 2003 09:50:24 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 09:50:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VTNC-000546-6B for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:48:58 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VTN7-00053v-SM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:48:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 37003 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 07:09:24 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 07:09:24 +0400 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <3014137121.20030626134845@dx.ru> To: "flo flo" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: AF in June - TNX! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! Wednesday, June 25, 2003 Laurence wrote: ff> By my reckoning a much better night. DCF39 came on strong from 1903 with ff> strongly audible peaks early on (2100Z) - a hint of Peter LDO, given the ff> freq, just before midnight but nothing solid. QRN was at a norm. ff> DCF faded at 0410 ( I was up sending off 3 project groups to the North and ff> centre of the country) ff> Now QRT - thanks for everyones efforts - ff> Laurence Accra - Ghana Laurence, TNX for the very difficult efforts! Accepted by you in Ghana about 5 thousand(?) Argocaps have the large advantage! It is interesting to me to look at the African lines-QRM - Loran's & others and DCF39-levels in Ghana. What period of a season is favorable for work from Africa on 136? (QRM+QRN+propagation+weather) Whether is solved where in Africa officially 136 now? Who the following will go to open Africa on 136? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26089 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 16:47:59 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 16:47:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7576 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Jun 2003 16:47:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 16:47:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VDQO-000106-8g for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:47:12 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VDQF-0000zx-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:47:03 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.208.172]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030625164659.KWY392.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:46:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c33b31$86635940$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:35:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73 KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, home is the sailor just last night back from DL; ES; OH; OZ; RA & SM and ready to mourn the passing of 73KHz as from tonight. After restringing the couple of broken top loading wires have just tested on both bands and things appear to be still more or less the way they were before we went cruising "forn parts", save that the antenna tap for 73 could do with being up a couple more turns as max O/P is now achieved at 72.1KHz rather than 71.85 - must have pulled the halyards a bit tighter! After wading through the 657 messages in the in-box, it looks like there won't be much of a 'wake' but I shall be available for final skeds right to the bitter end and just maybe a QSO with KEV, who has not yet appeared in the log for 73. I wonder which one of us is avoiding the other, Mal? Ah well, it was fun while it lasted, so let's give it a good send-off. I'll put out a CQ or two tonight on 72.00 plus or minus a noise line in both QRSS3 and hand speed just in case. 73 etc, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3769 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 15:44:31 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 15:44:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 889 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 15:44:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 15:44:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19VCPM-0000Y9-0S for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:42:04 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.184] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19VCPH-0000Y0-Da for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:41:59 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19VCPH-0005BS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:41:59 +0200 Received: from [62.158.74.5] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19VCPG-0000qQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:41:59 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c33b30$1889aa10$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:40:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Fw: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission 2003-06-29. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false "CQ CQ CQ DE SAQ SAQ SAQ" This year the Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission will be on Sunday 29th June with the VLF Alexanderson alternator on 17,2 kHz. There will be three transmissions with the same message, at 08:30 UTC, 10:30 UTC AND 12:30 UTC. The station will be open to public. QSL reports can be given via: - E-mail to: info.alexander.n.se - or fax to: +46-340-674195 - or via SM-bureau - or direct by mail to: "Alexander - Grimeton Veteranradios Vaenner, Radiostationen, Grimeton 72, SE-430 16, ROLFSTORP, SWEDEN - or via amateur radio QSO with the call "SA6Q" on following frequencies: 137,7 CW 14,035 CW 14,215 SSB on the following times: 07:00-08:00 UTC 08:45-10:15 UTC 10:45-12:15 UTC 12:45-14:00 UTC Note: SAQ is now a member of the Swedish Amateur Association (SSA) and "QSL via bureau" is OK. QSL-cards to "SA6Q" also via bureau. Also read website: www.alexander.n.se SM6NM/Lars From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5247 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 12:55:23 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 12:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11042 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 12:55:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 12:55:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19V9n2-0007os-K5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:54:20 +0100 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out-st.online.no) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19V9my-0007oj-OW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:54:16 +0100 Received: from [134.47.162.190] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:53:42 +0200 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-209.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:53:42 +0200 Received: from tns-fbu-2e-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:53:42 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:53:42 +0200 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05CF0@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Thread-Index: AcM5zFXyMXOfEM8lQfObDFvjOTpqAABS6EnA From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2003 12:53:42.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE48D780:01C33B18] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: SAQ on 17.2kHz next saturday (Intern) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
can't see any note on the LF reflector about the SAQ activity this week-end, or have I overlooked it?
Got the note at home
 
73, LA8AK

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J M Noeding, Datakvalitet, TTS, Kristiansand
email: la8ak@online.no 

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19270 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 10:34:09 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 10:34:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3171 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Jun 2003 10:34:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 10:34:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19V7aE-0006wr-HQ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:32:58 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19V7aA-0006wi-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:32:54 +0100 Received: from host213-122-82-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.82.1] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19V7a9-0002L7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:32:54 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c33b05$1479aea0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:10:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ghana 24/25th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, yes the CFH plot shows a considerably better level in the second part of the night, and Brian's overnight DCF39 plot shows some improved levels. It is a pity you just caught conditions at an active period but it does show that the path is certainly possible, even in summer. Thanks for all your efforts and have a good journey back to the colder climes. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "flo flo" To: Sent: 25 June 2003 07:32 Subject: LF: ghana 24/25th > By my reckoning a much better night. DCF39 came on strong from 1903 with > strongly audible peaks early on (2100Z) - a hint of Peter LDO, given the > freq, just before midnight but nothing solid. QRN was at a norm. > > DCF faded at 0410 ( I was up sending off 3 project groups to the North and > centre of the country) > > Now QRT - thanks for everyones efforts - > > Laurence Accra - Ghana > > >Subject: LF: re DCF39 and Condx 23/24th > >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:06 +0100 > > > > > > >My CFH plot shows that conditions are still very poor. There is an initial > >peak at 0100z and then a declining level through the rest of the night. > >There is still a lot of absorptive material in the D-layer. > > > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK > >alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24222 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 06:34:14 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 06:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21796 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Jun 2003 06:34:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2003 06:34:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19V3pm-0005TI-Cz for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:32:46 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.3] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19V3pi-0005T2-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:32:42 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:32:10 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:32:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:32:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2003 06:32:10.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[81EC7390:01C33AE3] Subject: LF: ghana 24/25th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false By my reckoning a much better night. DCF39 came on strong from 1903 with strongly audible peaks early on (2100Z) - a hint of Peter LDO, given the freq, just before midnight but nothing solid. QRN was at a norm. DCF faded at 0410 ( I was up sending off 3 project groups to the North and centre of the country) Now QRT - thanks for everyones efforts - Laurence Accra - Ghana >Subject: LF: re DCF39 and Condx 23/24th >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:06 +0100 > > >My CFH plot shows that conditions are still very poor. There is an initial >peak at 0100z and then a declining level through the rest of the night. >There is still a lot of absorptive material in the D-layer. > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12108 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2003 10:27:54 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 10:27:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4091 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Jun 2003 10:27:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 10:27:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Ukya-0007Yl-BS for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:36 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UkyT-0007YS-Ex for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:29 +0100 Received: from host213-122-38-219.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.38.219] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19UkyS-000687-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c33a3a$bfe25060$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re DCF39 and Condx 23/24th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, dont rip your radio's apart !! DCF39 went off air at 1100z yesterday the 23rd and did not return until 0600z this morning 24th. This looks as though it may have been a maintenance period. Brian's "real-time" plot shows this very well. My CFH plot shows that conditions are still very poor. There is an initial peak at 0100z and then a declining level through the rest of the night. There is still a lot of absorptive material in the D-layer. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24954 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2003 08:54:25 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 08:54:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29640 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Jun 2003 08:54:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 08:54:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UjYV-0006pd-WE for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:53:35 +0100 Received: from [192.108.125.11] (helo=alpha.sbs.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UjYS-0006pU-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:53:32 +0100 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (hermes.sbs.sk [192.108.125.51]) by alpha.sbs.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A49ADF for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from btss005a.sbs.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.180]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h5O8rQke001608 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:53:27 +0200 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:53:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:53:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: RE: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE, ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
 
I'll be there also. Just must spend some time in SARA stand.
See you in Friedrichshafen.
 
73 de Rich OM2TW
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:58 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen

Hi Alberto,

>   if you have a digital photocamera, it would be nice
> to have a Web page with pictures and call signs...

Ok, I will try my best with an ancient 'sub-megapixel' camera.

Would be very nice to meet one or two Italian fellows there, too.. ;-)

Cheers,
Wolf DL4YHF.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13546 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2003 08:07:48 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 08:07:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5996 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Jun 2003 08:07:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 08:07:47 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Uinz-0006Qr-6l for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:05:31 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.25] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Uinv-0006Q6-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:05:27 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:04:56 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:04:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:04:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2003 08:04:56.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CA56870:01C33A27] Subject: LF: 23/24th condx - where did the signals go? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The daytime D layer reflection mode started with DCF39 being visible at dot60 at 0710Z 23rd - it gradually strengthened to "average" daytime levels until 1100Z when signals suddenly dissapeared, and I do mean suddenly. No signal was seen again in this mode for the rest of the day. Night-time We start to see the "night-time" mode at appx 1940Z but, again, NO overnight signals seen at all. (I even checked all connections to make sure a Toad wasnt sitting on the resonance cap). "Long range averaging" of static levels were down too... This morning 24th DCF39 is just becoming visible again at 0710Z, in daytime D layer mode. It doesnt look too bright for my last nights of receiving, but Ill put a report out tomorrow morning when I start to break the station down. Laurence - Accra Ghana. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20452 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 21:06:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 21:06:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5134 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 21:06:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 21:06:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UYVD-0003Dw-A1 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:05:27 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UYV9-0003Dl-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:05:23 +0100 Received: from uadvg137.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.137) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 21:04:48 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.142.56] by uadvg137.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 765HFwVeS0325M37; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:04:44 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.142.56 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3EF76BB6.7070900@usa.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:05:58 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false DL4YHF@aol.com wrote:
Hi Alberto,

>   if you have a digital photocamera, it would be nice
> to have a Web page with pictures and call signs...

Ok, I will try my best with an ancient 'sub-megapixel' camera.

Would be very nice to meet one or two Italian fellows there, too.. ;-)

Hi Wolf,
    many thanks. For Web publishing you don't need lots
of megapixels... even if you have them, you will have then to
resample the image to, let's say, 640 x 480, which is less
than half a megapixel, so...

I won't be there, nor Vittorio IK2CZL. I know there will be many
Italians, but don't know how many of them interested in LF.
Probably Giulio IK2DED will go, ask for him at the ARI stand
(ARI is the Italian equivalent of your DARC).

Enjoy the trip

73  Alberto  I2PHD

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10291 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 17:59:30 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 17:59:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2516 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 17:59:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 17:59:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UVam-0002Kk-Qw for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:59:00 +0100 Received: from [152.163.225.100] (helo=imo-r04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UVaj-0002Ka-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:58:57 +0100 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.fb.41b38204 (4418) for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:58:20 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Alberto,

>   if you have a digital photocamera, it would be nice
> to have a Web page with pictures and call signs...

Ok, I will try my best with an ancient 'sub-megapixel' camera.

Would be very nice to meet one or two Italian fellows there, too.. ;-)

Cheers,
Wolf DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13480 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 17:46:07 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 17:46:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5195 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 17:46:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 17:46:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UVNX-0002CU-98 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:45:19 +0100 Received: from [212.204.115.10] (helo=hugo.fen-net.de ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UVNT-0002CJ-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:45:15 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-109.fen-net.de [212.204.116.109]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h5NHgNgG002806 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:42:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001901c339af$19d8bb40$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:44:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hamradio 2003
 
Thanks, Wolf, for information to all. You are absolutely right. Markus, DF6NM, will also be there and give a lecture about his LF direction finder. It is a broadband simultaneous direction finder, which shows the direction of the incoming signals encoded by colour, with a kind of spectrogram display. Very interesting, indeed.
    After that we intend to continue with "eyeball-QSO´s" in the "Dorfkrug"-restaurant. Best beer, wine and food (local style) available.
    BTW: Hartmut DL1VDL (chairman HF DARC) will report about the HFpropagation forecast by DK0WCY (10,144MHz) in CW, PSK31, RTTY and on 5,195MHz (DRA5) as well.
 
73   Walter DJ2LF
 
 
 
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: DL4YHF@aol.com <DL4YHF@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Datum: Montag, 23. Juni 2003 14:31
Betreff: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen

Hello LF friends,

Though I'm currently not active on LF, I will be at DJ2LF's LF-meeting during the Ham Radio Fair 2003 in Friedrichshafen. The schedule printed in the CQ-DL magazine says the LF meeting takes place on Friday, June 27, after the HF Information at 16:00 in room "Schweiz" ("Switzerland") - whatever and whereever that may be (somewhere in "Foyer West" or the "Conference Center").

Walter please put me right if this information is outdated, otherwise see you soon !

Foreign visitors beware: The fair takes place on the new location near the airport, and a certain amount of chaos may be pre-programmed ;-). There is a bus shuttle to the fair from the train station and the harbor.

I will be QRV during the fair on 439.475 MHz in FM because I still didn't finish my LF-handheld TRX...

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25241 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 15:45:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 15:45:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19458 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 15:45:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 15:45:33 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UTVC-0001GH-5g for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:45:06 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.2] (helo=cmsrelay05.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UTV5-0001G0-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:44:59 +0100 Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 15:44:06 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.142.193] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 328HFwPSB0153M30; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:44:02 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.142.193 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3EF7208D.3010400@usa.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:45:17 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1d5.c4e4555.2c284d18@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false DL4YHF@aol.com wrote:
Though I'm currently not active on LF, I will be at DJ2LF's LF-meeting during the Ham Radio Fair 2003 in Friedrichshafen. The schedule printed in the CQ-DL magazine says the LF meeting takes place on Friday, June 27, after the HF Information at 16:00 in room "Schweiz" ("Switzerland") - whatever and whereever that may be (somewhere in "Foyer West" or the "Conference Center").
[...]
Wolf,
    if you have a digital photocamera, it would be nice to have a Web page with pictures
and call signs... so that one could associate to the call sign the real image of the guy,
and not that fictious picture built unconsciously in our minds based on the perceived
character, originated maybe by the general tone of his postings...  I hope to be not
asking too much, do it only if you have no problems in doing it,  thanks.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5572 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 15:37:54 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 15:37:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20261 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 15:37:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 15:37:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UTMy-00017l-62 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:36:36 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UTMo-00017b-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:36:26 +0100 Received: from host213-122-159-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.159.43] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19UTMn-0001I0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:36:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c3399d$2f3ecf40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:35:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Condx 22/23rf Jun Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, yes the plots confirm Laurence's feelings about propagation last night. CFH was right down again with me and Brian's plots of DCF39 are only just reaching the "average" on peaks. Deep and sharp fading is also occuring. So no surprises on last night. Steve W3EEE did see a better signal from DCF39 but the darkeness path lasts only for about 1 hour. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4636 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 14:49:47 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 14:49:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 1243 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 14:49:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 14:49:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19USco-0000jP-FV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:48:54 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.69] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19USck-0000jF-Fp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:48:50 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 07:48:18 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:48:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:48:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2003 14:48:18.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C29D5E0:01C33996] Subject: LF: 18th June Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ive been looking back at some 4500 file captures and have another weak hit on 137.77425 at 2320Z 18th June. 2 dahs seen over 20 mins @ dot 60 in the grass Just for interest... Laurence. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5785 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 13:15:36 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 13:15:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29019 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 13:15:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 13:15:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UR9x-0008Qt-K9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:15:01 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UR9u-0008Qi-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:14:58 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030623131457.BMAN21249.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:14:57 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01c33989$582f3f20$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c33906$207177c0$1c00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:14:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: last 73k activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > As we lose 73k next Monday I will fire up the station on Sunday 29th for the > last time (except maybe Monday evening!). > Will anyone else be around? > Last chance for those who have NOVs but have never had a QSO..... > > Dave G3YXM. I will definitely be active over the weekend and Monday, using CW and QRSS. Will announce beacon listening schedule later this week. With Rugby off, we have the whole band for a change! This is the very last chance to hear amateur signals on this band. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9074 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 12:32:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 12:32:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15598 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 12:32:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 12:32:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UQUR-00085Z-0e for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:32:07 +0100 Received: from [205.188.157.36] (helo=imo-d04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UQUM-00085H-6m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:32:02 +0100 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.1d5.c4e4555 (25508) for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:31:20 -0400 (EDT) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <1d5.c4e4555.2c284d18@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:31:20 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: Ham Radio Friedrichshafen Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello LF friends,

Though I'm currently not active on LF, I will be at DJ2LF's LF-meeting during the Ham Radio Fair 2003 in Friedrichshafen. The schedule printed in the CQ-DL magazine says the LF meeting takes place on Friday, June 27, after the HF Information at 16:00 in room "Schweiz" ("Switzerland") - whatever and whereever that may be (somewhere in "Foyer West" or the "Conference Center").

Walter please put me right if this information is outdated, otherwise see you soon !

Foreign visitors beware: The fair takes place on the new location near the airport, and a certain amount of chaos may be pre-programmed ;-). There is a bus shuttle to the fair from the train station and the harbor.

I will be QRV during the fair on 439.475 MHz in FM because I still didn't finish my LF-handheld TRX...

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14213 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 12:21:19 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 12:21:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22030 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 12:21:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 12:21:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UQHt-0007vW-9T for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:19:09 +0100 Received: from [144.254.74.5] (helo=ams-iport-1.cisco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UQHp-0007vN-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:19:05 +0100 Received: from virgin.net (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2003 14:18:44 +0100 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5NCGTJ0025041 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:16:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from virgin.net (dhcp-rea-gp250-64-103-65-88.cisco.com [64.103.65.88]) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02661 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:18:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3EF6F004.1030409@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:18:12 +0100 From: "Stewart Bryant" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <194.1b190650.2c281975@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 73kHz NOV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The not beyond 30 June notice is still on the RA web site. A number of us were at Epsom. It's a pitty no one thought to ask Alan Betts if there was a possibility of further extension. Stewart G3YSX =========================================================== Extension Of Operating LF Amateur Radio Allocation At 73kHz Please note that there will be no further extensions to this date - with no exceptions, all experimentation and operation within this band will cease at midnight on 30 June 2003. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29575 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 08:52:11 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 08:52:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10661 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 08:52:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 08:52:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UN37-0006VS-IR for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:51:41 +0100 Received: from [64.12.136.8] (helo=imo-m05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UN33-0006VD-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:51:37 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.194.1b190650 (4568) for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:51:01 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <194.1b190650.2c281975@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:51:01 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10512 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 73kHz NOV Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In a message dated 6/22/03 6:59:24 PM GMT Daylight Time, g3kev.ham@virgin.net writes:


> Hi All,
> Has anyone had any official notification from the RA regarding the end of
> the 73kHz situation ? My NOV
> makes no mention of a final date and I have had no
> communication on the subject, apart from some messages on this reflector.
So
> what is to stop me continuing to transmit beyond the end of June ?
> 73 Laurie.
Laurie. I did overhear a conversation on 80 metres, true or otherwise that
73 khz permits could be extended if there was any interest. I would expect
that someone somewhere especially those representing radio amateurs in the
UK would definitely know. One approach, go directly to the  RA and enquire
if it is permissible to continue. I have found this the best way in the
past, avoid third parties if possible, they are just the messengers handling
the licence/nov etc
73 de Mal/G3KEV




Hi.

The BR68 booklet lists several methods by which changes and suspension to the amateur radio licence can take place. Various notices in official publications seems favourite. Sadly, it's our responsibility to look at them. No individual notification ever seems to take place........Only individual prosecution.

73  73k

David From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7372 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 08:20:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 08:20:44 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 4506 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 08:20:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 08:20:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UMYJ-0006Ef-23 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:19:51 +0100 Received: from [134.58.240.45] (helo=thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UMYF-0006E4-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:19:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45900137850 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:19:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C6213782D for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591BC380002 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030623101641.0300ae88@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:19:19 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <19TrRU-0nKLwm0@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3EF47E10.4000908@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >see attachment, what do you read ? > >regards > >Uwe/dj8wxContent-Type: image/jpeg; name="IT6.JPG" >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="IT6.JPG" >Content-MD5: vVZkgYLU9cIlKURe7WfivA== Uwe, based on the rather odd spaces between the dots and dashes it could well be RN6BN in a period of rapid QSB. 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14770 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 06:42:16 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 06:42:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 12834 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Jun 2003 06:42:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2003 06:42:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UL15-0005ha-5n for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 07:41:27 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.81] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UL11-0005hK-Hy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 07:41:23 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:40:52 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:40:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:40:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2003 06:40:52.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[640AD980:01C33952] Subject: LF: Prop 22/23rd overnight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Im guessing conditions are still bad Alan! The plots of DCF39 were down about 15-20dB from 16-18th, my best days. Nothing seen on dot 60/30 chaps. We also had a very (very) bad storm to the bases north which didnt help either. The sun is about to shine and Im hoping the last couple of days here will be better. HF hasnt been good either with our in country 5 and 9Mhz NVIS having high levels of absorbtion. A tick and a host of fleas have moved into the tent..a lovely small red spider which waves its legs when I approach has made its web across the laptop screen this morning - this didnt help reading the Argo plots as it produced a diffraction/interference grid. The spider has now moved on to HF. Laurence, East Legon Accra _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22904 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 21:34:29 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 21:34:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 1204 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 21:34:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 21:34:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19UCT7-0003T6-TB for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:33:49 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19UCT2-0003Sx-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:33:46 +0100 Received: from host81-132-183-168.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.132.183.168] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19UCSx-0004u9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:33:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c33906$207177c0$1c00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:34:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: last 73k activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. As we lose 73k next Monday I will fire up the station on Sunday 29th for the last time (except maybe Monday evening!). Will anyone else be around? Last chance for those who have NOVs but have never had a QSO..... 73 (yes indeed!) Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11006 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 17:59:42 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 17:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 17:59:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 17:59:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19U96L-0002Xl-Nh for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:58:05 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.41] (helo=mta1-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U96I-0002Xc-57 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:58:02 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.62]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030622175801.OFHU24453.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:58:01 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c338df$61178660$3ee5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c338a4$ef562ca0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:52:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz NOV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: LF: 73kHz NOV > Hi All, > Has anyone had any official notification from the RA regarding the end of > the 73kHz situation ? My NOV > makes no mention of a final date and I have had no > communication on the subject, apart from some messages on this reflector. So > what is to stop me continuing to transmit beyond the end of June ? > 73 Laurie. Laurie. I did overhear a conversation on 80 metres, true or otherwise that 73 khz permits could be extended if there was any interest. I would expect that someone somewhere especially those representing radio amateurs in the UK would definitely know. One approach, go directly to the RA and enquire if it is permissible to continue. I have found this the best way in the past, avoid third parties if possible, they are just the messengers handling the licence/nov etc 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19310 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 12:58:44 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 12:58:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 3130 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 12:58:43 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 12:58:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19U4Q3-0001KJ-Jm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:58:07 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.113] (helo=cmsrelay04.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U4Pz-0001KA-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:58:03 +0100 Received: from uadvg128.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.128) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 12:57:32 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.141.130] by uadvg128.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 805HFVm6d0299M28; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:57:29 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.141.130 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3EF5A7FE.7070109@usa.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:58:38 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3EF47E10.4000908@usa.net> <19TrRU-0nKLwm0@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false jannsen wrote: >Hi Alberto, > >see attachment, what do you read ? > >regards > >Uwe/dj8wx > > Hi Uwe, of course I read what you did read, i.e. IT6DN. I wasn't questioning the exactness of your reading, I did just point out that IT6DN is not a valid Italian call sign, so maybe there is an alternative explanation, as Alan suggested, or it is a pirate (unlikely on 137kHz) or a special call sign (nothing that I am aware of). 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19418 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 11:49:28 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 11:49:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8404 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 11:49:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 11:49:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19U3KA-0000yV-F4 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:47:58 +0100 Received: from [194.134.35.177] (helo=smtp6.wanadoo.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U3K6-0000yM-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:47:55 +0100 Received: from savage (p3815.vwr.wanadoo.nl [212.129.226.239]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 121A0744E3 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:47:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ko Versteeg" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: PocoMail 2.64 (1120) - Licensed Version Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0200 In-reply-to: <000b01c338a4$ef562ca0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Message-ID: <2003622134855.067005@savage> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz NOV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:56:52 +0100, Laurie Mayhead wrote: >Hi All, >Has anyone had any official notification from the RA regarding the >end of >the 73kHz situation ? My NOV >makes no mention of a final date and I have had no >communication on the subject, apart from some messages on this >reflector. So >what is to stop me continuing to transmit beyond the end of June ? >73 Laurie. Laurie. Don't ask, don't tell ;-) 73 Ko, NL9222 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16295 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 09:56:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 09:56:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5939 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 09:56:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 09:56:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19U1a7-0000ZG-N8 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:56:19 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U1a4-0000Z7-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:56:16 +0100 Received: from modem-97.dorwinion.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.157.225] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U1ZE-00078G-9G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:56:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c338a4$ef562ca0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:56:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz NOV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Has anyone had any official notification from the RA regarding the end of the 73kHz situation ? My NOV makes no mention of a final date and I have had no communication on the subject, apart from some messages on this reflector. So what is to stop me continuing to transmit beyond the end of June ? 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12272 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 09:40:57 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 09:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2680 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 09:40:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 09:40:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19U1KG-0000SC-GT for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:39:56 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.148] (helo=zinc) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19U1KD-0000S3-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:39:53 +0100 Received: from host213-122-24-17.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.24.17] helo=Main) by zinc with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19U1KC-0003k0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c338a2$333255a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:39:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation 21/22nd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, conditions seem to be very low last night. CFH was at the lowest levels I have seen it, and Brian's plot confirmed that his shorter path to DCF39 only just reached "average" levels on a couple of peaks but was generally 5dB below. This is the culmination of the recent geomagnetic activity and will take a few quiet days to return to usable levels. Unfortunately I doubt this will happen before Laurence has to leave Ghana. This is a pity as it looks as though he has some traces that are only a few dB below the "ID level". This expedition is a good example of what QRSS can do in spite of high levels of static. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com Propagation report in full with plots at http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21310 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 08:09:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26123 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 08:09:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 08:09:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Tzu8-0008VX-SL for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:08:52 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.89] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Tzu4-0008VG-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:08:48 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:08:17 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:08:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:08:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2003 08:08:17.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FDCF4E0:01C33895] Subject: LF: Here Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040101020600080400090401" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPARTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040101020600080400090401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ghana My last night of receiving will be the 24th - I leave on the evening of the 25th and back to KL7 by evening 26th. I might have my tx licence by then....then perhaps not... Loop and rx have worked very well under intense qrn and very pleased with the results. The 870 with NB on AGC fully off works better than I would have thought possible given the levels of static crashes. Please see attachment and see if the sigs belong to anyone - its a bit low of the main acitivity and Ill reconfirm the freqeuncy when I get back to KL7 and recalibrate/check. Taken at dot 30 Nothing last night. I think the Iono thru Geo/Solar has been very unkind but heyho thats what research is all about. I spoke too soon about the storms - the tent was 3 inches deep at 1300 - Ive moved it too higher ground and that got submerged. Frogs loved it. Loop doesnt seem to care much about the rain..Im probably loading the Q down with the single turn anyway. 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--------------040101020600080400090401-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31612 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2003 05:21:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 05:21:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16243 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Jun 2003 05:21:44 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 05:21:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TxHc-0007y1-Kv for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:20:56 +0100 Received: from [195.161.47.18] (helo=mail.kuban.ru) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TxHY-0007xs-Fs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:20:52 +0100 Received: from sam3 (62.183.41.10.dsl.kuban.ru [62.183.41.10]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h5M5Kj213486 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:20:49 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:23:02 +0400 From: "rn6bn" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <746495359.20030622092302@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false IT6DN Can be this RN6BN ? My QRSS 50 sec. dot -- Best regards, Sam, rn6bn mailto:rn6bn@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9975 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 23:56:41 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 23:56:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18465 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 23:56:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 23:56:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TsDJ-0005TX-Rv for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:56:09 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TsDG-0005TO-7H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:56:06 +0100 Received: from host213-122-18-227.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.18.227] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19TsDF-0005oZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:56:05 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c33850$b4bf9760$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3EF47E10.4000908@usa.net> <19TrRU-0nKLwm0@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:55:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Uwe, It does look like the station your declared...BUT just get a ruler out, or a pair of dividers, and you will find the spacing is very odd and the element lengths are not constant. I wonder whether this is in fact a "beat note" between two of the other stations ?? dot, dash and space lengths are often selected to suit the user and 3:1 is not always chosen, but once the keying starts the dots and dashes and spaces should come out at the same length. For instance compare the two dots in your "I" with two of the dots in the "6" and there is a big difference. Fading can affect this a little but the signal seems steady over the call-sign period. One the other hand one mans 60 sec dot may be anothers 50 sec. dot. Brian should be near perfect as his elements start on the GPS "ticks", and his sending is near "coherent" Just a possibility ?? Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: 22 June 2003 00:06 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night > Alberto di Bene schrieb: > > jannsen wrote: > > > > >in addition to your observation: IT6DN at midnight on 137.7716kHz mode > > QRSS60 > > >15dB above noise. > > > > > > > > > > > IT6DN ? That's not a valid Italian prefix, unless it is a special call sign. > > Valid prefixes for operation below 50 MHz for Italian region 6 are I6xx > > or IK6xx or IZ6xx. > > > > Or it could have been IT9DN, then it is Sicily island. > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > > Hi Alberto, > > see attachment, what do you read ? > > regards > > Uwe/dj8wx ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24014 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 23:07:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 23:07:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 29029 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 23:07:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 23:07:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TrRl-0005FV-Gw for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:07:01 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.21] (helo=mailout10.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TrRg-0005FM-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:06:56 +0100 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19TrRg-0007N6-01; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:06:56 +0200 Received: from (b7S+tcZrYeGGGG-gYyIZHS3tdEP08cL4LuAGMfhYb+Sv1zqiC1-Zc2@[62.224.50.121]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19TrRU-0nKLwm0; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:06:44 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3EF47E10.4000908@usa.net> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:06:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19TrRU-0nKLwm0@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: b7S+tcZrYeGGGG-gYyIZHS3tdEP08cL4LuAGMfhYb+Sv1zqiC1-Zc2@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020507050906000906050805" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020507050906000906050805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alberto di Bene schrieb: > jannsen wrote: > > >in addition to your observation: IT6DN at midnight on 137.7716kHz mode > QRSS60 > >15dB above noise. > > > > > > > IT6DN ? That's not a valid Italian prefix, unless it is a special call sign. > Valid prefixes for operation below 50 MHz for Italian region 6 are I6xx > or IK6xx or IZ6xx. > > Or it could have been IT9DN, then it is Sicily island. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > Hi Alberto, see attachment, what do you read ? regards Uwe/dj8wx --------------020507050906000906050805 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="IT6.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="IT6.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEBLAEsAAD/2wBDAAgGBgcGBQgHBwcJCQgKDBQNDAsLDBkSEw8UHRof Hh0aHBwgJC4nICIsIxwcKDcpLDAxNDQ0Hyc5PTgyPC4zNDL/2wBDAQkJCQwLDBgNDRgyIRwh MjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjL/wAAR CABjAmMDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 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murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 22:33:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TquS-00055h-1z for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:32:36 +0100 Received: from [152.163.225.99] (helo=imo-r03.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TquO-00055Y-9T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:32:32 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.115.2539fdda (3964) for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <115.2539fdda.2c2636de@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:31:58 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10617 Subject: LF: Beacon 137773.2/.3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi group,

since 22:00 I am beaconing on 137773.2/.3, DFCW 60+20s. Tonight's top load is 40m of 0.2mm wire borne by a helium-filled garbage bag, fed by 1.8A current. Lets see how long it will stay up there...

I am seeing strong signals on 137774.08 and 772.80.

73 de MArkus, DF6NM


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1383 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 15:47:04 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 15:47:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 4978 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 15:47:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 15:47:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TkZY-0003iA-T0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:46:36 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.113] (helo=cmsrelay04.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TkZV-0003hx-46 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:46:33 +0100 Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.129) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 15:46:21 -0000 Received: from usa.net [81.211.136.63] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.08F) with ESMTP id 258HFuPUT0238M29; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:46:19 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 81.211.136.63 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3EF47E10.4000908@usa.net> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:47:28 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false jannsen wrote: >in addition to your observation: IT6DN at midnight on 137.7716kHz mode QRSS60 >15dB above noise. > > > IT6DN ? That's not a valid Italian prefix, unless it is a special call sign. Valid prefixes for operation below 50 MHz for Italian region 6 are I6xx or IK6xx or IZ6xx. Or it could have been IT9DN, then it is Sicily island. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30831 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 14:51:14 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 14:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 12749 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 14:51:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 14:51:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TjhF-0003Tb-DX for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:50:29 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.81] (helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TjhB-0003TS-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:50:26 +0100 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19TjhB-0005Ne-03; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:50:25 +0200 Received: from (GvE3y4ZEremkf-xxArd1hpijjI8RMyvhXkxDs4NkJY0u5ZOhUachgu@[62.224.53.224]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Tjh3-1ZtgX20; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:50:17 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:50:17 +0200 Message-ID: <19Tjh3-1ZtgX20@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: GvE3y4ZEremkf-xxArd1hpijjI8RMyvhXkxDs4NkJY0u5ZOhUachgu@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=5.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Walter Staubach schrieb: > Good morning to All. > At around 22UTC here in JN59NO all stations were clearly visible with > ARGO QRSS30: > > - M0BMU -23dB > - CT1DRP -40dB DFCW > - RU6LA -23dB > - RN6BN -30dB > > 73 Walter DJ2LF > > > Hi Walter, in addition to your observation: IT6DN at midnight on 137.7716kHz mode QRSS60 15dB above noise. regards Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26492 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 11:43:14 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:43:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19286 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 11:43:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:43:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Tgkd-0002ke-CJ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:41:47 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TgkZ-0002kV-JA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:41:43 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19TgkQ-0000xF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:41:34 +0100 Received: from HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk (HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk [147.197.182.199]) by gemini.herts.ac.uk (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h5LBfWN07404 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:41:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:41:31 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3932304313.1056199291@HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <001001c337cd$618d9d40$f0d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Originator-Info: login-id=mj9ar; server=Gemini X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.4, s/n S-398075] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: BEACONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Mal, LF Group, --On 21 June 2003, 09:15 +0100 hamilton mal wrote:r > Recently 137.770 freq area has been a complete shambles with several > transmissions simultaneously in beacon mode all at 60 sec dot length and > very close together generating other frequencies, resulting in > considerable frequency spread. I imagine there could be difficulties > even at a distanct location trying to resolve and identify anyone in the > mess. 73 de Mal/G3KEV Several stations very close together is of course what we are trying to do - it would make life more difficult for Laurence in Ghana if we were distributed widely all over the band Looking for a weak QRSS signal in an otherwise unoccupied part of the band is easy - almost any adjustment of the RX gain will work, provided the receiver noise remains below the band noise band noise . But receiving multiple QRSS signals with widely different strengths requires a more careful approach. Remember that the filtering that defines the RX bandwidth does not take place until the signal is inside the computer, so as well as the normal intermods in the front end, one must also be concerned about distortion occuring in the IF, product detector and audio stages of the receiver, and the sound card - this is what gives rise to the intermod products you were seeing on the spectrogram. Few if any receivers are designed with this mode of operation in mind, so some optimisation of gain distribution is required. The procedure I use is like this: -Ensure AGC is completely disabled -Adjust RF/IF gain level so that the output level produced by the strongest signal is well below the level at which the RX output starts clipping -Adjust the audio level so that the AF output is undistorted, and that the sound card is not saturated by the strong signals. This will probably end up with much lower gain settings than you usually use - certainly, if intemods appear on the spectrogram, or blocking effects where the strong signals darken the rest of the display, the gain is too high at some point. The fact that you can no longer hear the weaker signals or the band noise in the RX audio is not a problem - the spectrogram software can still pick them out. It also helps to reduce the contrast of the spectrogram display compared to what you would usually use, to accommodate a wider range of signal levels. Sometimes, it also helps to reduce the frequency resolution of the spectrogram - eg. use Argo in 30s mode rather than 60s - this has the effect of making the "key clicks" on the strong signals narrower, so they obscure less of the weak signals . Spectrum Lab is more flexible in regard to the settings you can use than Argo is for this type of operation, allthough it is more complicated to set up. Observing these precautions, I have had no problem copying CT1DRP and RN6BN in the presence of other UK stations over the last few nights - all the signals were quite clean, so your "frequency spreading" problem is definitely at the RX end. During previous T/A tests, it was not difficult to copy the DL, I, etc stations in the presence of several big signals from the UK that were 50 - 60dB stronger. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13059 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 11:28:36 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:28:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20451 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 11:28:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:28:36 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TgWb-0002b1-7b for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:27:17 +0100 Received: from [24.153.64.116] (helo=smtp-out.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TgWX-0002aB-M3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:27:13 +0100 Received: from snet.net (c-67-163-165-144.client.comcast.net [67.163.165.144]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGT00AEMWY7I6@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:28:40 -0400 From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3EF44168.6F41CA4F@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en References: Subject: Re: LF: Propagation conditions 20/21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nice signals from VO1NA and MP again last night. No others signals noted. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12009 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 11:28:24 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:28:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20295 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 11:28:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:28:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TgWA-0002aR-Lv for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:26:50 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TgW7-0002aE-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:26:47 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19TgVs-0000X3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:26:32 +0100 Received: from HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk (HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk [147.197.182.199]) by gemini.herts.ac.uk (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h5LBQTN07100 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:26:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:26:28 +0100 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3931401465.1056198388@HA-2N83-PC.herts.ac.uk> In-reply-to: Originator-Info: login-id=mj9ar; server=Gemini X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.4, s/n S-398075] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Propagation conditions 20/21st Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070607070802020704030700" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070607070802020704030700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Laurence, LF Group, Transmitted last night on 137.7728kHz from about 2145 - 0430, as I have been on previous couple of nights - have had problems sending e-mail for the last few days. Also visible were good signals from RN6BN, RU6LA, and CT1DRP throughout the night. I will be QRV again tonight, but will be away for the next few days - good luck for the rest of your expedition. Re: the DCF39 carrier - I recorded samples of DCF39, followed by DLF on 153kHz, using Argo in 60s mode - see attachment. The two signals are roughly similar in frequency and path - the spreading of the DCF39 signal is clear in this comparison. It might be interesting to try the same thing in Ghana, allthough there is an Algerian BC station on 153kHz which might be a problem - perhaps that is what the weaker trace about 0.1Hz below DLF is. 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uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 11:22:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 11:22:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TgQr-0002Wv-8k for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:21:21 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TgQm-0002Wm-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:21:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 12568 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 08:41:47 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 08:41:47 +0400 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:21:08 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <12722541829.20030621152108@dx.ru> To: "flo flo" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Propagation conditions 20/21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! I shall make a beacon since June 21 (from 1700z) till June 22(up to 0200z) Freq abt 137.7745 QRSS60 RN6BN now QRT - Sam has gone to the Black sea. Now my turn to make beacons ;-) Laurence, tomorrow (22-23) to make a beacon for you? When you leave from Ghana? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4988 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 10:55:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 10:55:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3346 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 10:55:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 10:55:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TfzQ-0002NZ-Vc for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:53:00 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.42] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TfzN-0002NQ-Az for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:52:57 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:52:25 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:52:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:52:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2003 10:52:25.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[33934820:01C337E3] Subject: Re: LF: Propagation conditions 20/21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Overnight 20/21st - Poor RF levels from DCF39. Day and night time modes continue as before - I effectively have no signal from DCF39 only from 0430-0730 and from 1600-1940Z. Daytime D layer mode is producing very stable levels - overnight mode still shows the deep fades and stronger peaks of Iono/mpath. The system is still logging even though Im now off to yomp/train for a day in Shai Hills and see how many of the local baboons, who lob rocks from their high lookouts, can hit their intended targets. If you guys want to beacon somewhere else on the band let me know -..... Laurence Accra (no storms) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17744 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 09:18:49 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 09:18:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24798 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 09:18:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 09:18:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TeUN-00020I-0F for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:16:51 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TeUE-000209-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:16:42 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.240]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030621091641.JPRJ13147.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:16:41 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c337cd$618d9d40$f0d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:15:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: BEACONS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    It would solve a lot of problems if we get back to 135.99 +/- for Beacon and other slow and very slow transmissions and leave the 137.7 khz area for two way QRS QSO'S preferably QRS 3 and on the odd occassion when necessary a suitable speed to acheive a QSO, maybe faster or slower.
Recently 137.770 freq area has been a complete shambles with several transmissions simultaneously in beacon mode all at 60 sec dot length and very close together generating other frequencies, resulting in considerable frequency spread.
I imagine there could be difficulties even at a distanct location trying to resolve and identify anyone in the mess.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28491 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 06:29:29 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:29:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23650 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 06:29:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:29:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TbrT-0001MM-FN for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:28:31 +0100 Received: from [212.204.115.10] (helo=hugo.fen-net.de ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TbrP-0001M5-SH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:28:27 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-046.fen-net.de [212.204.116.46]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h5L6Pc3O020231 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:25:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001701c337bf$3850b380$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: "RSGB LF" Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:34:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Beacons last night Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Good morning to All.
      At around 22UTC here in JN59NO all stations were clearly visible with ARGO QRSS30:
 
 - M0BMU     -23dB      
 - CT1DRP    -40dB DFCW
 - RU6LA      -23dB
 - RN6BN      -30dB
 
73 Walter DJ2LF
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22080 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 06:27:42 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:27:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12729 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 06:27:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:27:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Tbpc-0001Ks-FA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:26:36 +0100 Received: from [203.109.254.41] (helo=grunt1.ihug.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TbpX-0001Kj-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:26:31 +0100 Received: from 203-173-240-96.adsl.ihug.co.nz (athlon) [203.173.240.96] by grunt1.ihug.co.nz with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19TbpR-0005Yu-00; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:26:25 +1200 Message-ID: <010f01c337be$10cd9bd0$6f00a8c0@athlon> From: "Dave Brown" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c33786$81a62300$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:26:31 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Rugby Radio CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alan- Would really appreciate a copy of that CD. Check out the postage to NZ (airmail) and let me know the damage.. I'll send you cash if you want. Have been emailing Clive GW3WEQ on other matters recently and quite by chance he mentioned dismantling transmitters etc at Rugby. Turns out he is seriously involved in the whole dismantling process- said he had over three miles of 15 inch face triangular section mast to dispose of! Regards Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: LF: Rugby Radio CD > Hi All, as a memento of our visit to Rugby Radio LF station arranged by Dave > G0MRF, I was given a CD specifically "to copy for members of the group". I > am interpreting that as "for member of the RSGB LF Group". I think all those > who were able to attend should have a copy by now. > > I would be happy to copy the CD for other members of the Group (who were > unable to attend) at cost. This works out at £1 including postage within the > UK, I could post to Europe for about 3euros. For North American members I > would be happy to provide a disc in return for a minimum $3 donation to > AMRAD via Andre N4ICK, or bills in the post. (It is not worth processing > small checks.....<$50 in UK Banks) Other destinations will require a quick > query on the Postal rates at my local office. > > The CD contains lots of reading...original IEE papers and Wireless World > articles, many original (professional) photographs scanned at very high > resolution....Dave G3YXM said he had just spent 4 hours looking at it and > had not got round to the reading matter !! The disc is chock full 760Mb....a > fitting requiem for a grand old Lady. > I only ask that you bear in mind that the original material is probably > copyright. > > My address is > 67a, Deben Avenue > Martlesham Heath > IPSWICH > Suffolk IP5 3QR > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3973 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2003 06:10:45 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:10:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25958 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Jun 2003 06:10:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 06:10:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TbYw-0001C0-NG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:09:22 +0100 Received: from [212.241.168.226] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TbYs-0001Br-Sm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:09:18 +0100 Received: from k7t (120.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.120]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with SMTP id h5L69HUc020761 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:09:17 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c337bc$18ed73a0$78eb23d4@k7t> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c33786$81a62300$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:12:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Rugby Radio CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I think we should thank Alan for his efforts copying the Rugby CD. As he says, it is a very full disc and he must have spent a considerable time making those copies. Walter G3JKV. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3796 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 23:49:41 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 23:49:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 13304 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 23:49:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 23:49:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TVcu-0008JT-Pi for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:49:04 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TVcr-0008JK-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:49:01 +0100 Received: from host213-122-111-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.111.170] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19TVcq-0001ay-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:49:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c33786$81a62300$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:48:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Rugby Radio CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, as a memento of our visit to Rugby Radio LF station arranged by Dave G0MRF, I was given a CD specifically "to copy for members of the group". I am interpreting that as "for member of the RSGB LF Group". I think all those who were able to attend should have a copy by now. I would be happy to copy the CD for other members of the Group (who were unable to attend) at cost. This works out at £1 including postage within the UK, I could post to Europe for about 3euros. For North American members I would be happy to provide a disc in return for a minimum $3 donation to AMRAD via Andre N4ICK, or bills in the post. (It is not worth processing small checks.....<$50 in UK Banks) Other destinations will require a quick query on the Postal rates at my local office. The CD contains lots of reading...original IEE papers and Wireless World articles, many original (professional) photographs scanned at very high resolution....Dave G3YXM said he had just spent 4 hours looking at it and had not got round to the reading matter !! The disc is chock full 760Mb....a fitting requiem for a grand old Lady. I only ask that you bear in mind that the original material is probably copyright. My address is 67a, Deben Avenue Martlesham Heath IPSWICH Suffolk IP5 3QR Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20181 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 21:17:31 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 21:17:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1742 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 21:17:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 21:17:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TTFR-0007jE-8Q for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:16:41 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TTFJ-0007j4-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:16:33 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.168]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030620211632.RYQM13147.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c33768$c75579a0$a8e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <10349023281.20030620121551@dx.ru> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:15:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RU6LA Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Lesnichy" To: Cc: "Vernall" ; "Marcelo" Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: LF: RU6LA Beacon > LF-enthusiasts! > > I shall make a beacon since June 20 (from 1700z) till June 21(up to 0200z) > Also it is possible since June 21 (from 1700z) till June 22(up to 0200z) > Freq abt 137.7745 QRSS60 > > I hope that Murphy will sleep at this time ;-) > > Now SFI=120 A=45 K=3 Hi Ed Murphy is helping you today. I tuned to your 137.774 khz freq at 2002 utc and you were visual OOO and also audible. We could work CW you were about 569 on my verticlal but not so good on my loop. QRS 60 is too slow for me even to watch is bad !!!!!!!! 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12467 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 17:28:53 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 17:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14204 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 17:28:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 17:28:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TPg4-0006iC-Ji for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:27:56 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TPg1-0006i3-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:27:53 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.252]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030620172751.WLPI291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:27:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c33748$d4d35ae0$fcd0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <852840604.20030620111750@73.ru> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:38:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam" <73@73.ru> To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: LF: 137.77 > In these days frequency 137.770 +/- listens RA9MB. > While hears only me. > > Sunrise UA9M in 22:25 GMT. Sam It is impossible to hear/see anything on this frequency if there is UK acty going on at the same time. The freq is completely swamped with QRM. Local EU/UK acty needs to be separated by frequency from the DX De Mal/G3KEV > -- > > RN6BN, Sam mailto:73@73.ru > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10577 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 16:27:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 16:27:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10477 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 16:27:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 16:27:00 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TOiC-0006Ly-R1 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:26:04 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.11] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TOi8-0006LY-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:26:01 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:25:29 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:25:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:25:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2003 16:25:29.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[90711950:01C33748] Subject: Re: LF: Propagation conditions 19/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Im guaging DCF39 was a further 10-15dB averaging down last night. A hint of a signal 2 dashes on 137.7738 at 2340 but just splodges. Daytime D layer has been weaker today too but extended further into the afternoon. Overnight signals seemed to peak 2300-0200 Lets hope things improve.\ Sunny and 105F 100% RH Laurence _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16840 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 12:17:21 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 12:17:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26161 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 12:17:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 12:17:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TKof-0004qS-Fu for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TKob-0004qJ-Qf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:25 +0100 Received: from modem-89.boromir.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.141.89] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TKoa-0001GM-Lg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c33726$2eb7fac0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:18:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. Swamped Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false For once, remarkably I agree with Mal. Perhaps for these long period QRSS, beaconing type activities we should go back to the bit below 136 which we used for the original T/A attempts,which is otherwise unused, leaving137 and above for the shorter period QSO type QRSS activity.This should provide sufficient separation to enable both types of activity to co-exist. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 11:11:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20813 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 11:11:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 11:11:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TJnA-0004KO-4x for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:10:52 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.84] (helo=mailout09.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TJn3-0004K5-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:10:45 +0100 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19TJn2-0006Xv-0B; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:10:44 +0200 Received: from (rIZLVOZLYe7R7BGYm687aQ3gKssntoSvNhRvVEUeV9jbSga4k445cn@[62.224.53.206]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19TJmo-0TO23k0; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:10:30 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c336fd$6a1fca80$94e4fc3e@l8p8y6> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:10:30 +0200 Message-ID: <19TJmo-0TO23k0@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: rIZLVOZLYe7R7BGYm687aQ3gKssntoSvNhRvVEUeV9jbSga4k445cn@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: who was it Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010207050404080708080609" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=5.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010207050404080708080609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, evaluating last nights captures I see one station transmitting on two frequencys: 137.7717kHz QRH and 137.7757kHz QRH. mode QRSS60. the lower QRG goes up and the upper goes down in frequ. see SpecLab shot with one of the traces. vy weak signs to be seen abt one hour only. 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(helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TIbo-0003j9-FY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:55:04 +0100 Received: from host213-122-214-170.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.214.170] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19TIbn-0004i8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:55:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c33712$01fb6ee0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:30:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation conditions 19/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, conditions looked pretty grim last night judging from the signals monitored across the Atlantic. Steve W3EEE barely saw DCF39 above the noise, and CFH monitored here was as low as I have ever seen it and some 15 dB down on normal levels. I believe this is the absorption phase of the recent geomagnetic storm after-effects. I certainly seems as though events have conspired to make Laurence's listening difficult. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24606 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 08:28:50 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 08:28:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 2998 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 08:28:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 08:28:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19THFj-00039V-Hl for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:28:11 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19THFa-00039E-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:28:02 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.148]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030620082801.CNNJ18420.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:28:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c336fd$6a1fca80$94e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:27:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SWAMPED Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
The freq around 137.770 was totally swamped last night around 2300 utc. RN6BN was very strong but totally wiped out by JIM/M0BMU who joined, then G3AQC but he too was wiped out.
I was going to look for VO1 acty but this was impossible because of the qrm. We need some freq separation between local activity and dx activity. The signals were so close together that sum and difference freqs were also being generated, total chaos on the frequency. At a distance this would not be a problem but around EU difficult.
I did not TX but no doubt if I had this would have added to the clutter!!!!!!!!
I hope our man in Ghana made something of these signals hi
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25212 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 08:16:29 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 08:16:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 1431 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 08:16:28 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 08:16:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TH3u-00031g-6y for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:15:58 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TH3q-00031X-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:15:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 30850 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 05:36:28 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 05:36:28 +0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:15:51 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <10349023281.20030620121551@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Vernall" , "Marcelo" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RU6LA Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! I shall make a beacon since June 20 (from 1700z) till June 21(up to 0200z) Also it is possible since June 21 (from 1700z) till June 22(up to 0200z) Freq abt 137.7745 QRSS60 I hope that Murphy will sleep at this time ;-) Now SFI=120 A=45 K=3 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26146 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 07:21:44 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 07:21:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22680 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Jun 2003 07:21:43 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 07:21:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TG9N-0002gg-3b for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:17:33 +0100 Received: from [62.183.34.130] (helo=ns.tsel.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19TG9J-0002gX-8A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:17:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 27211 invoked by uid 596); 20 Jun 2003 07:33:07 -0000 Received: from [90.0.0.6] (HELO sam) (90.0.0.6) by ns.tsel.ru (qpsmtpd/0.26) with SMTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:33:07 +0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:17:50 +0400 From: "Sam" <73@73.ru> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal Organization: Tsel X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <852840604.20030620111750@73.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SMTPD: qpsmtpd/0.26, http://develooper.com/code/qpsmtpd/ Subject: LF: 137.77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=FROM_ALL_NUMS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMSversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In these days frequency 137.770 +/- listens RA9MB. While hears only me. Sunrise UA9M in 22:25 GMT. -- RN6BN, Sam mailto:73@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16733 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 20:59:19 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:59:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29626 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 20:59:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:59:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19T6UX-0000Bv-0U for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:45 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19T6UO-0000Bk-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:36 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.31]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030619205835.GOZM291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c3369d$1b178f00$1fcdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:57:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RN6BN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Sam
I just tuned to 137.770 khz +/-  at 2018 utc and received your signal 6BN,  very strong on my E/W vertical loop
Your signal is probably arriving at a high angle because you are not as strong on the higher verticle antenna. In the past, some times your signal is about the same strength on both the vertical and loop.
It is still daylight here and the sun is shining !!! A very good signal at this time of day considering the distance around 3000 K/metres
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16720 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 20:59:18 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:59:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29609 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 20:59:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:59:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19T6UN-0000Ba-E9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:35 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19T6UE-0000BQ-V1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:27 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.31]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030619205826.GOVL291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c3369d$154c6780$1fcdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c3363b$d01ae620$14e9fc3e@l8p8y6> <1714593824.20030619144109@73.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:25:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam" <73@73.ru> To: "hamilton mal" Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: Re: LF: RN6BN > hm> The BN beacon strong last night around 2135 utc.on 137.770 khz. > ........ > ........ > hm> 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH > > Strange?! > I use the frequency 137,774 on my transmitter. > Can he lies? (my transmitter) Sam. I did not measure exactly the freq, my RX was tuned to 137.770 and you appeared within the B/Width of 100 hz de Mal/G3KEV > > > > > -- > > RN6BN, Sam mailto:73@73.ru > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18688 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 17:29:55 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 17:29:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 11820 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 17:29:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 17:29:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19T37r-0007Ph-Px for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:23:07 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19T37i-0007PY-QJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:22:58 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.195]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030619172257.BIO291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:22:57 +0100 Message-ID: <001401c3367e$faa36fa0$c3e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:21:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Diversity reception Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I have been using space diversity reception for a while on 137 khz and it is interesting to watch the signals that appear on screen using QRS.
The system consists of a 90 metre loop antenna, resonated on 137 khz and fed to RX type Hagenuk Blu EE 430, which is very sensitive on LF and does not need a RF Preamp, the audio from the RX goes to a DSP filter and from there to the computer audio card and the signal displayed using ARGO s/ware.
 
The other antenna is my vertical system consisting of 4 x inv L antennas each one at present around 100 ft vertical and 400 ft horizontal all converging at the bottom of the vertical drop to the loading coil about 0.5 mh inductance, where the antenna is resonated and matched to 50 ohms, then fed to the shack via coax to the RX which is an IC706 at present ( I have other receivers that I use at times) the audio from this also goes to a DSP filter and the output to the computer as above.
 
The audio to the computer is optimized at 650 hz in both receivers but one  RX BFO is set on the high side and the other on the low side, this way each signal can be observed for QSB and any other changes. The BFO outputs are variable and can be arranged in a variety of ways, eg both signals exactly on the same frequency. 
 
The loop is positioned for optimum signals E/W where most of the activity takes place across EU and to the USA/Canada.
If necessary I could install a similar loop N/S if there was an abundance of activity from Africa to the South and Japan to the North. I have had enquiries from Japan about LF qso possibilities, having worked scores of JA stns on 160 Metres.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26959 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 13:49:30 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 13:49:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 332 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 13:49:24 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 13:49:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SzmZ-0006IN-2n for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:55 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.85] (helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SzmU-0006IE-LD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:50 +0100 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19SzmT-0005EQ-01; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:49 +0200 Received: from (JTNqM8ZBge+1uc8goqs3+-+KF5qfkg9US+wMGMmWzOGvMxuasF32gE@[62.224.51.167]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Szm4-0YwJI90; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:24 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c33645$73844f00$6507a8c0@Main> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:24 +0200 Message-ID: <19Szm4-0YwJI90@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: JTNqM8ZBge+1uc8goqs3+-+KF5qfkg9US+wMGMmWzOGvMxuasF32gE@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Propagation Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040704020203060901060900" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=5.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040704020203060901060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alan Melia schrieb: > Hi all the recent set of geomag events are taking their toll on conditions. > The darkness window to Steve W3EEE is not really sufficient at this time of > year to show much but levels were well down last night. 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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SzmH-0006IA-35 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:37 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.21] (helo=mailout10.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SzmD-0006I1-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:48:33 +0100 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19SzmC-0000R0-06; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:32 +0200 Received: from (JTNqM8ZBge+1uc8goqs3+-+KF5qfkg9US+wMGMmWzOGvMxuasF32gE@[62.224.51.167]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Szm3-0YwJI80; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:23 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c33315$f3788ec0$56e4fc3e@l8p8y6> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:48:23 +0200 Message-ID: <19Szm3-0YwJI80@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: JTNqM8ZBge+1uc8goqs3+-+KF5qfkg9US+wMGMmWzOGvMxuasF32gE@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: 136 acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=5.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false hamilton mal schrieb: > Lots of acty this morning on 136 khz. G3GRO very strong, DL1EIE, DK7SU, DL8WX > and PA0BWL so far. > > 73 de G3KEV > > Hi Mal, not DL8WX, DJ8WX with his 10W driver stage conn to the ant. was ZOA. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3411 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 13:22:42 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 13:22:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22708 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 13:22:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 13:22:36 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SzMW-00065J-8r for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:22:00 +0100 Received: from [24.153.64.115] (helo=smtp-out.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SzMS-00065A-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:21:56 +0100 Received: from snet.net (c-67-163-165-144.client.comcast.net [67.163.165.144]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGQ000A7CXTQH@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:24:22 -0400 From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3EF1B986.869A2BBC@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en References: <159755178.20030618213858@dx.ru> <000301c3365f$5bc2ec40$09dc9384@jka> Subject: Re: LF: Ghana frequencies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false All Basically the same at this location. Fairly low noise conditions last night. There were some "bits and pieces" elsewhere on the screen but nothing identifiable. VO1NA was strongest early in the evening - same situation as noticed over the last month. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Laurie, et al: > > Observed last night: > > VO1NA: 137,773.11 kHz > "MP" (VE3OT): 137.773.55 kHz > > No EU signals were seen, but that's hardly a surprise at 0H UTC in June. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7222 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 12:31:17 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 12:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16457 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 12:31:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 12:31:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SyYR-0005gl-7K for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:30:15 +0100 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SyYN-0005gc-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:30:11 +0100 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h5JCU1q10726 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jka (208.37.242.34.ptr.us.xo.net [208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch04072003) id IAA04876; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000301c3365f$5bc2ec40$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <159755178.20030618213858@dx.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:36:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Ghana frequencies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie, et al: Observed last night: VO1NA: 137,773.11 kHz "MP" (VE3OT): 137.773.55 kHz No EU signals were seen, but that's hardly a surprise at 0H UTC in June. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1892 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 10:41:43 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 10:41:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11981 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 10:41:43 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 10:41:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Swqd-0004tM-9F for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:40:55 +0100 Received: from [62.183.34.130] (helo=ns.tsel.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SwqZ-0004t6-0b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:40:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 4454 invoked by uid 596); 19 Jun 2003 10:56:21 -0000 Received: from [90.0.0.6] (HELO sam) (90.0.0.6) by ns.tsel.ru (qpsmtpd/0.26) with SMTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:56:21 +0400 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:41:09 +0400 From: "Sam" <73@73.ru> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal Organization: Tsel X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1714593824.20030619144109@73.ru> To: "hamilton mal" In-reply-to: <000c01c3363b$d01ae620$14e9fc3e@l8p8y6> References: <000c01c3363b$d01ae620$14e9fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SMTPD: qpsmtpd/0.26, http://develooper.com/code/qpsmtpd/ Subject: Re: LF: RN6BN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=FROM_ALL_NUMS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false hm> The BN beacon strong last night around 2135 utc.on 137.770 khz. ........ ........ hm> 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH Strange?! I use the frequency 137,774 on my transmitter. Can he lies? (my transmitter) -- RN6BN, Sam mailto:73@73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32551 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 09:32:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:32:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18146 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 09:32:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:32:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Svld-0004Gp-BI for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:31:41 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.211] (helo=cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SvlZ-0004GX-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:31:37 +0100 Received: from modem-84.atanatari.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.130.84] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SvlX-0004vM-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:31:36 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c33645$fceade80$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:32:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Ghana tests and frequencies. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, I understand that the following frequencies are in use:- CT1DRP 137,773.6 VO1NA 137,773.5 M0BMU 137,772.8 Are there are any other preferred frequencies between 772.5 and 775 ? I am looking for a gap Hi ! 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26205 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 09:31:40 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:31:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19745 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 09:31:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:31:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Svku-0004FI-9O for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:30:56 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.148] (helo=zinc) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Svkp-0004F8-Od for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:30:51 +0100 Received: from host213-122-144-112.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.144.112] helo=Main) by zinc with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19Svkf-0002E3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c33645$73844f00$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:29:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all the recent set of geomag events are taking their toll on conditions. The darkness window to Steve W3EEE is not really sufficient at this time of year to show much but levels were well down last night. My CFH plot (see the Prop report on my web site) shows one peak at about 0100z followed by falling levels due to increased absorption. I am not surprised that Laurence didn't see any signals last night in Ghana. Hopefully it will improve before he leaves. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17535 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 09:25:42 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29911 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 09:25:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 09:25:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Svdq-00049T-WA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:23:38 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Svdl-00049I-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:23:33 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.20]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030619092210.QPXM5914.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:22:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c3363b$d01ae620$14e9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:20:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RN6BN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
The BN beacon strong last night around 2135 utc.on 137.770 khz. Strength about the same as earlier on in the year during the winter period. A CW qso would have been possible between Sam and myself. Perhaps we should all make a bigger effort to communicate long haul dx during the summer in spite of some QRN at times and shorter hours of darkness in the northern hemisphere.
I did not hear/see any other signals on LF at the above time.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23492 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 06:56:11 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 06:56:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 20732 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jun 2003 06:56:11 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 06:56:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19StGu-0003GG-4e for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:51:48 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.84] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19StGp-0003G7-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:51:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:51:12 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:51:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:51:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2003 06:51:12.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C3BDF70:01C3362F] Subject: Re: LF: Ghana test - "Doppler" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false James thanks for this - being "remote" it difficult to know what is normal - ie what DCF39 dot 60 would look like within a stable ground wave. I do get variations in bandwith and the "variable phase return" nature of the signal would explain why it varies as it does. I shall stop calling it mpath/doppler....I should have known!!! This reflector and the technical responses to comments makes for a good learning curve... Conditions overnight were noisey - dcf39 nightitme mode has appeared within 2 minutes of each day at around the same level, and was strongly audible at times last night with the obvious interruptions from lightning and a very very noisey frog outside my window. Signal was "up" at 1938 and down this morning 19th at 0411Z. Flat peaks and slow fades between 2100-0400 with the period 2130-0200 being the strongest averages for Germany/Ghana. Im going to add another screen with faster res to see if I can get shorter averaging and a better idea of peaks. Its just after 0600Z and the birds are singing/sun shining but nothing on the screen - Im laying bets at which time the D layer will start to act as a reflector this morning...umm..guessing 0832Z.. No signals detected overnight no matter how much I screw my eyes up. No running water (mains) at the moment but we do have 200 loo rolls...and a bottle of spring water or two. Apologies for the typos but Im trying to swat the mossies and keep on hitting the keys. Cheers - Laurence plus 35 other staff with Raleigh International Accra http://www.raleighinternational.org >From: James Moritz >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: Ghana test - "Doppler" >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:11:22 +0100 > > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14602 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 23:03:56 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 23:03:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2324 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 23:03:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 23:03:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SlwC-0001Kj-Cm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:01:56 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Slw8-0001Ka-KZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:01:52 +0100 Received: from modem-29.ar-sakalthur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.127.157] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Slw7-0006Ui-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:01:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c335ee$02f057e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:03:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. Ghana test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Tonight I am transmitting on 137,773.2 this puts me 0.4Hz above M0BMU and 0.3 Hz below Joe VO1NA. Looks like sufficient seperation. I started at 23:30 and will close at about 00:30 when I will probably be asleap Hi ! 73 All, Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 566 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 17:40:07 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 17:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23889 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 17:40:05 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 17:40:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Sgtl-0008LF-Bm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:39:05 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Sgth-0008L6-Da for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:39:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 25355 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 14:59:39 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 14:59:38 +0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:38:58 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <159755178.20030618213858@dx.ru> To: "flo flo" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Ghana test - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! I just have returned from Machta... The full circuit of electric power is broken... 1-2 days The frequency 1377745 is free. When I can give beacon I shall inform later SRI... 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30402 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 17:23:20 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 17:23:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 15707 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 17:23:19 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 17:23:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Sgd9-0008Dw-AZ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:21:55 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Sgd5-0008Dn-PP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:21:51 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19SgT3-0002YV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:11:29 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19SgT0-0001HU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:11:26 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030618174327.00aa72b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:11:22 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Ghana test - "Doppler" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 07:41 18/06/2003 -0800, you wrote: >If the attachment works its a shot of DCF39 during the heat of the day and >gives a good view of what the spread is (same looking signal at night >except stronger)- and it looks about the same in Alaska too on XraY events etc. Dear Laurence, LF Group, I think this spreading of the DCF39 signal is what has been observed before at shorter distances - although the carrier frequency is stable, the phase of the carrier returns to a different value after each FSK data burst. The "wide" line is due to the random -ish phase modulation of the carrier this produces (actually, it isn't entirely random as it appears there are a finite number of possible phase jumps - presumably due to data clock and carrier frequency being derrived from the same reference frequency?). Thus, the speckled effect in your screen shot is actually generated by the FSK modulation bursts, and occurs wherever the signal is received - a pity really, since if it were a pure CW signal, it would be easy to observe much smaller frequency shifts, while as it is, it is difficult to see any change much less than about 0.1Hz due to the spreading of the spectral line. I will be running the beacon signal again tonight - I think 137 772.8 Hz was clear of the other sigs, so will stick to this. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10753 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 15:43:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 15:43:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 11009 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 15:43:12 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 15:43:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Sf55-0007d8-Cm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:42:39 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.65] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Sf51-0007ct-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:42:35 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:42:04 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:41:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:41:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2003 15:42:04.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A912F60:01C335B0] Subject: LF: Ghana test - Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010502030400030308000905" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPARTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010502030400030308000905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >All - thanks for the signals - Its quieter at the moment but I see we are >still in a minor geomag event. If the attachment works its a shot of DCF39 during the heat of the day and gives a good view of what the spread is (same looking signal at night except stronger)- and it looks about the same in Alaska too on XraY events etc. Im on backup genny as the mains generation has failed again. Tent is drying out - ao am I Laurence - Ghana _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:28:06 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Seqw-0007U2-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:28:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 24536 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 12:48:37 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 12:48:36 +0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 19:27:58 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <10611548086.20030618192758@dx.ru> To: "flo flo" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: re DCF <> Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! I too TX beacon abt 137.773 ;-)), but after 22z (look below) I have put TX abt 0.5Hz below from RN6BN (Sam has informed, that was on 137774) I did not look who was on frequency because of absence of the good aerial ;-( I also had the large problems with weather (wind 6-10 m/sec, but without water ;-) and a power supply (the electric power disappeared 3 times) On today meteo forecasts is much better I shall start as well as planned - 1700-0200z abt 137.7745 Laurence, you skilled DXpeditioner! - I wish to you all problems to kill successfully ! Now I leave on a Machta... abt 1530z At 15z SFI=122 A=40 K=3 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25567 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 13:04:06 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 13:04:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27918 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 13:04:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 13:04:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19ScaW-0006Y6-6c for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:02:56 +0100 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ScaQ-0006Xx-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:02:50 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5ID2jZa029264 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:32:46 -0230 (NDT) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5ID2d4s028721 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:32:44 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h5ID2ckQ018326; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:32:38 -0230 (NDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:32:38 -0230 (NDT) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <001501c33596$90f44540$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Ghana Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I was on last night too at 137.7735 kHz. Could we have a list of frequencies so that I can avoid a one in use? I understand Laurence is listening .7725-775 so I moved from 777. Thanks for all the kind words from those on the reflector regarding the recent TA 2 way between Jim M0BMU and me. I'm amazed that my pip squeak sigs made it across. Cheers Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28172 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 12:36:49 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 12:36:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14303 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 12:36:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 12:36:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19ScAS-0006L3-RF for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:36:00 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.173] (helo=cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ScAO-0006Ko-3d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:35:56 +0100 Received: from modem-41.adanedhel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.96.41] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ScAM-0002z0-KW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:35:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c33596$90f44540$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:37:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Lawrence, I transmitted last night on 137.773 from 00:00 to 00:45 QRSS 60 (also on monday night) saw signal fromM0BMU. Will try again tonight. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6201 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 12:27:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 12:27:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 29490 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 12:27:32 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 12:27:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Sc03-0006Fh-Me for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:25:15 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Sbzz-0006FY-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:25:11 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19Sbzv-0006hf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:25:07 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Sbzr-00056q-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:25:04 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030618131835.028a2c58@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:24:47 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: re DCF <> Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Lawrence, Was transmitting on 137.7728kHz last night - also, at around 2100utc, signals visible here from G3LDO, RN6BN (audible strength) and CT1DRP (DFCW) - so you had plenty to choose from! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5143 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 10:33:27 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 10:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 3092 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 10:33:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 10:33:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SaEu-0005X3-3z for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:32:28 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SaEp-0005Wu-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:32:23 +0100 Received: from dial81-135-72-143.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.72.143] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19SaEo-0000Bt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:32:23 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c33584$c93d5160$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:24:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Ghana test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, your report sounds good despite weather that seems a little worse that here in the UK ...:-)) It looks as though you successfully detected two signals last night, your description seems to match my memory of the waterfall. Conditions were poor again last night, judging from my plot of CFH overnight which was depressed again (peak levels 6-8dB lower that recent levels) and cut by deep fades. It certainly looks as though a few more friendly dBs and you will have an identifiable signal.....the slope is very steep. Well done. Cheers de ALan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4369 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 09:22:23 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 09:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20327 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jun 2003 09:22:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 09:22:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SZ8E-0004y1-Ud for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:21:30 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SZ89-0004xo-Vg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:21:26 +0100 Received: from modem-3221.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.220.149] helo=shack) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SZ88-00089D-Ir for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:21:25 +0100 From: "Simon Lewis" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:21:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c3357a$fb1426f0$1400900a@shack> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: Subject: RE: LF: re DCF <> Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Strong Au in progress ATT on 6m band Large impact around 0600z K=7 at present - geo storm ongoing Regards Simon GM4PLM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of flo flo Sent: 18 June 2003 10:14 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: re DCF <> Ghana 18th June 2003 0900Z Ghana Overnight storms washed out me and the tent plus other team members winds up to 50 mph and water about 6 inches deep in the field. 870 and array stayed on during horrendous t'storms and power loss for about 4 hours (good old battery back up). The loop was well guyed and stayed "beaming" OK. Alans report on the iono is a very good "reflection" of what happens. At 1940Z the night time iono suddenly turns on and ramps up over an hour to max about 2200-0400. At 0300Z I was up sheltering from the storms and could audibly hear DCF39 thru the crashes. Drop off suddenly at 0410 this morning and earlier D layer reflection mode started before 0800Z. The signal during the daytime is very constant but in all cases both night and day has the 0.15Hz doppler/signature. Detection of weak signals between 2100-2300 both on 137773.5 (just above) and 772.5. Just visible no call. No loran lines. The 870 is doing a more than credible job with the QRM/N..AGC back offed fully. Spent 3 hours at the NCA yesterday but licence delayed further - "phone on Monday" - this looks like being a SWL expedition! But the propagation results are very interesting in any case. Station continues to be on line and capturing. Thanks to all for the emails and the support/encouragement! Keep on sending chaps.... vy 73 Laurence KL1X/GM4DMA Accra Ghana. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29753 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 09:17:40 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 09:17:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 18720 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2003 09:17:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2003 09:17:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SZ1P-0004vQ-5C for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:14:27 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.89] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SZ1H-0004vH-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:14:19 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:13:48 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:13:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:13:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2003 09:13:48.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED35B220:01C33579] Subject: Re: LF: re DCF <> Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false 18th June 2003 0900Z Ghana Overnight storms washed out me and the tent plus other team members winds up to 50 mph and water about 6 inches deep in the field. 870 and array stayed on during horrendous t'storms and power loss for about 4 hours (good old battery back up). The loop was well guyed and stayed "beaming" OK. Alans report on the iono is a very good "reflection" of what happens. At 1940Z the night time iono suddenly turns on and ramps up over an hour to max about 2200-0400. At 0300Z I was up sheltering from the storms and could audibly hear DCF39 thru the crashes. Drop off suddenly at 0410 this morning and earlier D layer reflection mode started before 0800Z. The signal during the daytime is very constant but in all cases both night and day has the 0.15Hz doppler/signature. Detection of weak signals between 2100-2300 both on 137773.5 (just above) and 772.5. Just visible no call. No loran lines. The 870 is doing a more than credible job with the QRM/N..AGC back offed fully. Spent 3 hours at the NCA yesterday but licence delayed further - "phone on Monday" - this looks like being a SWL expedition! But the propagation results are very interesting in any case. Station continues to be on line and capturing. Thanks to all for the emails and the support/encouragement! Keep on sending chaps.... vy 73 Laurence KL1X/GM4DMA Accra Ghana. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3255 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 17:22:23 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 17:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23072 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 17:22:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 17:22:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SK8n-0001A8-IB for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:21:05 +0100 Received: from [212.23.8.69] (helo=parmenides.zen.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SK8k-00019z-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:21:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 21510 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 17:21:01 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 17 Jun 2003 17:21:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acer5gi5q0ubzj) (82.68.18.174) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 17:21:01 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 82.68.18.174 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c334f4$d2ff30f0$0e01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <000f01c334d9$eebfca40$accd8351@j1r9b7> Subject: LF: RE: Re: 73kHZ test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Decided to "call it a day" after the CW transmission at 1830BST - the QRSS keyer having failed. Thanks to Derek, Laurie and anyone else who listened out for my test. 73 John, G3WKL > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Derek Atter > Sent: 17 June 2003 15:08 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: 73kHZ test? > > > Hi John, > > I am not set up at the moment for 73Khz transmit from the > home QTH but will QRX on 72000 from 1700BST today (17th June) > onwards and could reply on 136.800Khz CW/QRSS3 if you are > able to operate cross-band. There is an awful lot of QRN > around but it is worth a try. > - Sorry we missed you last time during the /P expedition to > Porthcurno! > > 73, Derek G3GRO (IO91VC ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W Gould" > To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:43 PM > Subject: LF: 73kHZ test? > > > < I do have another window tomorrow afternoon / evening if > anyone is around to listen out for me and perhaps give me a > call. The frequency will be 72000 +/- 5Hz (VXO VFO)and I'll > try a mix of CW and QRSS. > > > < I'll transmit on the hour starting at 1700 BST with CW and > on the half-hour with QRSS 3 sec dot.> > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25146 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 14:14:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 14:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 26481 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Jun 2003 14:14:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 14:14:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SHCY-0008Vz-8p for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:12:46 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SHCP-0008Vq-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:12:37 +0100 Received: from dial81-131-85-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.85.169] helo=j1r9b7) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19SHCJ-0007UU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:12:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c334d9$eebfca40$accd8351@j1r9b7> From: "Derek Atter" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c3342e$e0665a50$0a01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:07:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHZ test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John, I am not set up at the moment for 73Khz transmit from the home QTH but will QRX on 72000 from 1700BST today (17th June) onwards and could reply on 136.800Khz CW/QRSS3 if you are able to operate cross-band. There is an awful lot of QRN around but it is worth a try. - Sorry we missed you last time during the /P expedition to Porthcurno! 73, Derek G3GRO (IO91VC ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: LF: 73kHZ test? < I do have another window tomorrow afternoon / evening if anyone is around to listen out for me and perhaps give me a call. The frequency will be 72000 +/- 5Hz (VXO VFO)and I'll try a mix of CW and QRSS. > < I'll transmit on the hour starting at 1700 BST with CW and on the half-hour with QRSS 3 sec dot.> 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4346 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 12:58:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 12:58:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 1051 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Jun 2003 12:58:41 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 12:58:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SFzX-00082P-Cz for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:55:15 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SFzO-00082G-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:55:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 2313 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 10:15:41 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 10:15:41 +0400 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:57:33 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1022396911.20030617165733@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Jay Rusgrove" In-reply-to: <3EEEEE8F.2F571879@snet.net> References: <3EEEEE8F.2F571879@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: RU6LA beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF-enthusiasts! Tuesday, June 17, 2003 you wrote: JR> What is your TX power and antenna? SRI... I shall make beacons from a Machta (KN97LN), abt 80w Output. In April I modified Big Vertical - now at it H effective ~ 70-80m. But me heard still in Europe well. Calculated ERP abt 4-8w (I do not know what there will be losses in ground on Machta now) Usually current in the aerial at mine Big Vertical about 2.5-3A with 80w Output Unfortunately me still never not accepted in NA - line UA6-NA passes through Aurora zone RN6BN's calculated ERP abt 2w 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5522 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 09:32:05 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 09:32:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 19513 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Jun 2003 09:32:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 09:32:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SCmk-0006jD-6b for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:29:50 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SCmZ-0006j4-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:29:40 +0100 Received: from host213-122-121-177.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.121.177] helo=Main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19SCmU-0006my-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c334b2$db271320$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:28:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re DCF <> Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, it is good news that you are receiving DCF39 at good strength. The timings agree with the sort of thing I would expect. There should be a very distinct "low" at dusk and at dawn due to the fact that the path is predominantly north-south. The rising sun stimulates absorbing ionisation in the D-layer almost simultaneously along the whole path. The result is a dramtic "crash" of signal levels at dawn. As the sun rises higher some of this reaches levels to become "reflecting". Brian sees this effect on his path to the UK. Last night was not too good. Signal levels from CFH were down on the recent nights, with deep fades. Great test....hope the comms and power holds up ok. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26034 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 08:28:26 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 08:28:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9697 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 08:28:26 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 08:28:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SBnz-0006FP-PH for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:27:03 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SBns-0006FG-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:26:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 66559 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 05:47:34 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 05:47:34 +0400 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:29:40 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <2242632399.20030617122940@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: g3yxm@wireless.org.uk In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030616150308.00aa6990@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030616150308.00aa6990@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: ZL/9G/LU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LF- enthusiasts! Dark time in: ZL abt 0450-1950z (winter) 9G abt 1815-0550z LU abt 2050-1110z (winter) G abt 2010-0350z UA6L(RU6LA)-UA6A(RN6BN) abt 1710-0150z Favorable time for beacons from Europe for OC, AF and SA But now A=38 K=5 SFI=123 (bad or not to S-E, S, S-W directions?) I and Sam will do beacon-tests since Tuesday (June 17) and probably till Saturday(June 21) in QRSS60(RU6LA) and QRSS30 or 60 (RN6BN) at time 1700-0200z Freq abt 137.7725-137.775 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4818 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 08:17:54 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 08:17:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 22333 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Jun 2003 08:17:53 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 08:17:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SBee-00068V-EF for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:24 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.32] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SBea-00067r-N3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:20 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:16:49 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:16:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:16:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2003 08:16:49.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCF0A960:01C334A8] Subject: LF: LF Ghana - more Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Correction Nighttime conditions best was from DCF39 from 2200-0420 UTC (slow build but very fast drop off). Im presuming yesterdays daytime reception is thru intense D layer Iono and due to elevated Solar/Geo? Nobody/signals seen overnight. No loran lines visible at any time so far. Laurence Accra _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21319 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 07:50:54 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 07:50:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 15815 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Jun 2003 07:50:54 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 07:50:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19SBDp-0005uY-1V for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:41 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.114] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19SBDk-0005uP-9R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:36 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:49:04 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:49:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:49:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2003 07:49:04.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECCA07D0:01C334A4] Subject: LF: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Whew got a connection! (thanks to Martin FKK and Peter LDO for the relays) - Severe storms and water/lightning damage means landlines are noiset. 136 Khz on at 16th at around 1000Z - DCF39 was seen immediately (suprised) - local qrm/n is variable and much quieter than I had thought, but there have been no local storms. Signals peaked towards the North/sOUTH so the loop is fine. Signals weakened and by 1400 had all but dissapeared. At 1940Z signals came out of the noise and gradually got stronger peaking (very strong - as strong as in Jan) between 1000-0425 when DCF dropped off really fast. Im not seeing anything of DCF39 at the moment (0700Z) Im running 4 windows, 772.5-775 dot 60, a bit wider on dot 30 centered on 773, DCF39 and 770/780 for the US beacons on dot 60. No HF licence but back to the ministry today. So no HF talkback at the moment -also have to repair some coaxs with UV damage. System is on 24 hours - occasional SMPU noise wanders through the passband. Doppler yesterday was the "normal" 0.15 Hz (sorry Id love to see 1.5Hz!) - this was my fault...The doppler/mpath is with DCF all the time. Sorry but this mode is intermittent - If I have anything new Ill try to phone Peter/Martin. LAurence KL1X Anchorage Ghana ij95vp 5 deg 37 mins 58.3 n 000 deg 10 mins 29.3 secs w >From: "g3ldo" >Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >To: >Subject: LF: LF Ghana >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:42:52 +0100 > >Received this via G4FKK > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14689 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 17:45:04 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 17:45:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 11847 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Jun 2003 17:45:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 17:45:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Ry1Y-0002TD-2G for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:44:08 +0100 Received: from [212.23.8.69] (helo=parmenides.zen.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Ry1U-0002T4-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:44:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 5793 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 17:44:03 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 16 Jun 2003 17:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acer5gi5q0ubzj) (82.68.18.174) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 17:44:03 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 82.68.18.174 From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:43:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c3342e$e0665a50$0a01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHZ test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, had an interesting but disappointing effort to transmit down to Laurie, G3AQC, this afternoon on 73kHz. It's really my last attempt before we loose the band at the end of the month. Clearly, the poor aerial / earth arrangement this end is half of the problem as it's leaving me with a resistance of about 200 ohms is the main factor. I was probably only putting about 50 or 60W into the aerial. However, I do have another window tomorrow afternoon / evening if anyone is around to listen out for me and perhaps give me a call. The frequency will be 72000 +/- 5Hz (VXO VFO)and I'll try a mix of CW and QRSS. Unless anyone responds direct to g3wkl@btinternet.com to suggest otherwise, I'll transmit on the hour starting at 1700 BST with CW and on the half-hour with QRSS 3 sec dot. 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30884 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 14:52:09 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6749 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 14:52:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:52:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RvKR-0001e0-Aq for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:51:27 +0100 Received: from [194.106.56.14] (helo=server0027.freedom2surf.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RvKN-0001dr-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:51:23 +0100 Received: from Martin ([195.137.45.118]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id h5GEpNPW016453 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:51:23 GMT From: "Martin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:51:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030616150308.00aa6990@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: RE: LF: RE: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I didn't quiz Flo during his short call this morning. All the landlines in his area are down due to storm damage and I imagine he's trying to keep the mobile bill under control. I'll probably be speaking with him tomorrow so if there are any more questions for him let me know and I'll pass them on. 73 Martin G4FKK PS he's monitoring using a 60" dot period. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 16 June 2003 15:09 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: RE: LF Ghana > > > At 14:44 16/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: > >1.5Hz Doppler at LF? That's a very fast moving ionosphere. > > Dear Andy, LF Group, > > At about 10ppm between Alaska and Ghana, I suppose that might be "Kenwood > shift" or "Soundcard shift" too - did Lawrence say in which direction the > frequency shift was? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24435 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 14:35:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:35:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28631 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Jun 2003 14:35:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:35:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Rv4X-0001WB-DZ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:35:01 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.173] (helo=cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Rv4T-0001W0-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:34:57 +0100 Received: from modem-1328.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.213.48] helo=shack) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Rv4S-0001Ig-7t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:34:56 +0100 From: "Simon Lewis" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c33414$721561a0$1400900a@shack> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <000901c33404$ebd627a0$19ce28c3@erica> Subject: LF: RE: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false That figures! Take a look! http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html Aurora this afternoon but prob again tonight Probably rough ride over next 3 days after the number and intensity of flare acty. All but killed E's season on VHF! Regards Simon GM4PLM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of g3ldo Sent: 16 June 2003 13:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF Ghana Received this via G4FKK > > "QRM and QRN levels are low in Ghana at the moment and I'm receiving a > constant signal from DCS39 at good visible levels (abt -61dB), with a 1.5Hz > Doppler shift. I'm monitoring and recording between 137.7723 and > 137.7740 24 hours a day - looking good!" Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2892 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 14:15:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:15:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 25308 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Jun 2003 14:15:09 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 14:15:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Rufi-0001Ke-WF for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:09:22 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RufY-0001KV-QN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:09:13 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19RufA-0000aC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:08:48 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Ruf8-00016V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:08:46 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030616150308.00aa6990@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:08:46 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <01C33415.C8A6FB90.g4jnt@thersgb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: RE: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 14:44 16/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: >1.5Hz Doppler at LF? That's a very fast moving ionosphere. Dear Andy, LF Group, At about 10ppm between Alaska and Ghana, I suppose that might be "Kenwood shift" or "Soundcard shift" too - did Lawrence say in which direction the frequency shift was? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2986 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 13:45:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 13:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17125 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Jun 2003 13:45:41 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 13:45:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RuI9-0001CT-LU for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:45:01 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.141] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RuI5-0001CI-W3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:44:58 +0100 Received: from [80.40.83.68] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RuI5-0006ce-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:44:57 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: <01C33415.C8A6FB90.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:44:03 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false 1.5Hz Doppler at LF? That's a very fast moving ionosphere. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: g3ldo [SMTP:g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk] Sent: 2003/06/16 13:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF Ghana Received this via G4FKK > > "QRM and QRN levels are low in Ghana at the moment and I'm receiving a > constant signal from DCS39 at good visible levels (abt -61dB), with a 1.5Hz > Doppler shift. I'm monitoring and recording between 137.7723 and 137.7740 > 24 hours a day - looking good!" Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5843 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 13:34:37 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 13:34:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 14318 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Jun 2003 13:34:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 13:34:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Ru6k-00014w-Mw for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:33:14 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Ru6h-00014n-4t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:33:11 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-25.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.25] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19RtDu-000I3y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c33404$ebd627a0$19ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:42:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF Ghana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Received this via G4FKK > > "QRM and QRN levels are low in Ghana at the moment and I'm receiving a > constant signal from DCS39 at good visible levels (abt -61dB), with a 1.5Hz > Doppler shift. I'm monitoring and recording between 137.7723 and 137.7740 > 24 hours a day - looking good!" Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13131 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 05:42:34 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 05:42:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28417 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 05:42:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 05:42:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RmkO-00077C-6O for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:41:40 +0100 Received: from [212.40.5.52] (helo=smtp.tiscalinet.ch) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RmkK-000773-Hm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:41:36 +0100 Received: from explora (line-76-199-zh1.tiscali.ch [212.254.76.199]) by smtp.tiscalinet.ch (8.11.7/8.11.7) with SMTP id h5G5fZ728264 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:41:35 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c333c9$f216f620$77d2fea9@explora> From: "Christoph Baer" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <76.2eb2084f.2c1e34f4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:41:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Please no more E-Mails! Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA

Hi Jim and Joe,

excellent, I wish I had seen it! And my congrats to Alan as well, for his report in the first place.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15708 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2003 20:47:08 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 20:47:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16099 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Jun 2003 20:47:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 20:47:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19ReOL-0004nR-A8 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:21 +0100 Received: from [64.12.136.8] (helo=imo-m05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ReOH-0004nI-D6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:46:17 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.76.2eb2084f (18251) for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <76.2eb2084f.2c1e34f4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:45:40 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jim and Joe,

excellent, I wish I had seen it! And my congrats to Alan as well, for his report in the first place.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24956 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2003 18:52:16 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 18:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25958 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2003 18:52:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 18:52:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Rca7-0004BO-Sx for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:50:23 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.41] (helo=mta1-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RcZz-0004BF-FX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:50:15 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.146]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030615185014.ZKXV24453.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c33366$83292b60$92e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c33315$f3788ec0$56e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:49:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 136 acty Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: LF: 136 acty

Lots of acty this morning on 136 khz. G3GRO very strong, DL1EIE, DK7SU, DL8WX and PA0BWL so far.
 
Shortly after this worked the field day stn DK0CQ on CW.
 
 
73 de G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31582 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2003 09:18:45 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 09:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26620 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Jun 2003 09:18:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2003 09:18:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RTa5-0001bg-0u for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:13:45 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RTZw-0001bX-Po for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:13:36 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.86]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030615091336.RTAS291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:13:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33315$f3788ec0$56e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:12:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 136 acty Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Lots of acty this morning on 136 khz. G3GRO very strong, DL1EIE, DK7SU, DL8WX and PA0BWL so far.
 
73 de G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13468 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 20:36:08 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 20:36:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18107 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 20:36:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 20:36:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RHk9-0005NV-5i for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:35:21 +0100 Received: from [207.136.80.10] (helo=gozer.look.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RHk5-0005NM-Ix for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:35:17 +0100 Received: from [216.66.146.120] (helo=bc-van-mut-a53-10-120.look.ca) by gozer.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RHjz-0003EL-KL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:35:12 +0000 X-Sender: eldridge@direct.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Bob Eldridge" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:35:12 +0000 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Subject: Re: LF: Congratulations X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Is this a new MODE on LF, can't say I have ever seen it mentioned on any other amateur band, in spite of some outstanding achievements over the years. >G3KEV > Don't have time to research the matter, but I believe it was used in the paid telegram that confirmed the first radio contact between G and Z. If by chance it wasn't, it should have been. Bob VE7BS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18663 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 17:44:06 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 17:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8196 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 17:44:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 17:44:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RF3o-0004dv-RV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:43:28 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RF3g-0004dm-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:43:20 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.13]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030614174319.VPKH291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:43:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c33293$fea344c0$0de8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:42:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Congratulations Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Is this a new MODE on LF, can't say I have ever seen it mentioned on any other amateur band, in spite of some outstanding achievements over the years.
G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21582 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 17:07:11 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 17:07:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11451 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 17:07:11 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 17:07:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RETx-0004Pf-MW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:06:25 +0100 Received: from [24.153.64.115] (helo=smtp-out.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RETu-0004PW-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:06:22 +0100 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with SMTP id <0HGH009FJE5RZ6@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:05:50 -0400 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Absolutely splendid, Jim and Joe! 73 Steve 6/13/2003 11:47:19 AM, James Moritz wrote: >Dear LF group, > >Was very pleased to have a 2 - way 136kHz QSO with Joe, VO1NA early >yesterday morning, 12th of June. It took place between about 0050 and 0400 >using QRSS30, and "M" reports were exchanged. > >Propagation has been pretty dismal lately, but Joe's signal can be received >quite consistently when the QRN is at a reasonably low level. Yesterday >morning, the QRN level was lower than it had been for some time, and >signals were just about readable for the whole time the path between us was >in darkness. Considering we are nearly at the longest day of the year, this >certainly bodes well for the coming winter! > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19994 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 16:03:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 16:03:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 226 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 16:03:05 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 16:03:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RDU2-00046B-3l for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:02:26 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RDTy-000462-Dm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:02:22 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19RDTr-0006kw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:02:15 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19RDTo-0000GM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:02:12 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030614143827.02521460@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 16:53:34 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <3EEA38CC.8CF8030A@snet.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, At 16:49 13/06/2003 -0400, you wrote: >What's the distance is between your two stations? Would also be interested >in your schedule - just in case Thor happens to be napping at the time... Torbay, Newfoundland is about 47.657degrees North, 52.729degrees West, which according to my locator program is GN37PP, or thereabouts. Distance is 3720km to my location at IO91VR. There wasn't really a regular schedule as such; it started off with G3NYK successfully receiving VO1NA's beacon signal for the first time a few weeks ago. Then we tried a few more beacon sessions in each direction, where it became clear we could copy each other quite a lot of the time. There then followed attempts at a 2-way QSO when Alan's propagation Xtal ball gazing and the general noise levels looked promising - we succeeded on the 3rd attempt. We had to use QRSS30, because there are too few hours of darkness at this time of year for longer dot lengths. As you can see from the screen shots on G3YXM's web site, signal levels were just about adequate for this speed. The problem with regular long sessions of beaconing here is that the hours involved are a bit anti-social - it seems the best T/A propagation is occurring between about 0100z and 0400z, which is 2am - 5am in the UK, a bit of a struggle when you have to go to work afterwards! Having said that, I intend to transmit some beacon signals next week for KL1X's African trip - watch this space. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12862 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 14:37:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 14:37:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5637 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 14:37:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 14:37:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19RC8H-0003ab-El for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 15:35:53 +0100 Received: from [195.22.0.29] (helo=jubilee.esoterica.pt) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19RC8D-0003aS-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 15:35:49 +0100 Received: from slave-5.esoterica.pt (sjm049.esoterica.pt [195.22.17.177]) by jubilee.esoterica.pt (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5EEHdwl006641 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 15:18:23 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030614143119.00b23ec0@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: NX4YWV@vianw.pt@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:35:17 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Very well done and congratulations Jim and Joe. 73, Brian CT1DRP At 16:47 13/06/2003, you wrote: >Dear LF group, > >Was very pleased to have a 2 - way 136kHz QSO with Joe, VO1NA early >yesterday morning, 12th of June. It took place between about 0050 and 0400 >using QRSS30, and "M" reports were exchanged. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29484 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 11:25:53 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 11:25:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 27511 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 11:25:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 11:25:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19R99h-0002X5-Ct for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:25:09 +0100 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19R99d-0002Wq-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:25:05 +0100 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19R99d-00009F-00 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:25:05 +0100 Received: from johnb5a82ea1a4 (bts-0800.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.51.32]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5.zet) with ESMTP id h5EBOb1K002311 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:24:53 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c33267$aa31b330$2033f7c2@johnb5a82ea1a4> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:14:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Congratulations! 73 John Rabson G3PAI ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA > Dear LF group, > > Was very pleased to have a 2 - way 136kHz QSO with Joe, VO1NA early > yesterday morning, 12th of June. It took place between about 0050 and 0400 > using QRSS30, and "M" reports were exchanged. > > Propagation has been pretty dismal lately, but Joe's signal can be received > quite consistently when the QRN is at a reasonably low level. Yesterday > morning, the QRN level was lower than it had been for some time, and > signals were just about readable for the whole time the path between us was > in darkness. Considering we are nearly at the longest day of the year, this > certainly bodes well for the coming winter! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17190 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 08:17:38 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 08:17:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3104 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 08:17:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 08:17:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19R6DX-0001eh-A3 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:16:55 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19R6DP-0001eY-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:16:47 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.66]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030614081646.DWZZ291.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:16:46 +0100 Message-ID: <002201c33244$d7e24100$42e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20030613.153222.228.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:14:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA > > Actually the time the LF band has been avaible and serious TA work > we have been into a high sun spot cycle. As this is going down toward the > next peak in 8/9 year I would think that propagation should improve > > perhaps Mal will realize the goal of TA, manual CW . > I hope the FCC will realize their mistake by then Hi Bob Some think that propogation on LF ends during the summer, and this is incorrect. I have worked some good long haul DX on 160 metres during the summer time and I am sure the same applies to 136 khz. During summer the QRN seems to be a problem for some and they give up. I am looking for normal CW qso's across the Atlantic having worked several of the QRS variety to both the USA and Canada, xband with my signal on 135.922 khz and the other end on 7025 khz. I did work John/ VE1ZJ at QRS2 which is almost normal cw with solid copy. I was on 135.922 khz and John on 7025 khz, he was not set up at the time to RX normal aural cw otherwise it would have been possible, and he was unable to TX on 136 otherwise a normal CW qso could have taken place a long time ago. My best CW qso to date was G3KEV/RN6BN 579/539 on 137 khz at 2139 utc/04/05/2003, solid copy throughout the qso at nearly 3000 K/metres. His signal is always audible with me and this qso could easily be repeated. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH/Scarborough/England > > HAR > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:53:34 -0500 Mitch Powell > writes: > > > > To both of you - > > Congratulations! > > Great achievement - can we assume the success may be due to either > > (1) energy beginning to converge towards Stonehenge on the 21st, or > > (2) Joe is hooked in and using the TransAtlantic undersea cable as > > a > > counterpoise ? > > > > Please let us know transmitting schedule, so we can listen in from > > the > > "back end". > > > > 73 > > > > Mitch VE3OT > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18529 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2003 04:04:16 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 04:04:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 12339 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Jun 2003 04:04:16 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2003 04:04:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19R2GZ-0000LE-BG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:03:47 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.15] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19R2GV-0000L1-JU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:03:43 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:03:12 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:03:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:03:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2003 04:03:12.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF941E20:01C33229] Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA -ionic flushing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IPversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim/Joe - well done. This really does bode well for the coming shorter nights (mind you Im not wishing them away too fast) I did flush some ions into the S layer at 41,000 ft midwayy across the Atlantic at the time of the QSO - wonder if that helped. Im sitting here in London at my mothers QTH using her FRG100 listening on 136Khz to the 20 over 9 static crashes and DCF39 booming in, but without the strong clatter of Loran sidebands Im so so used too (and kind of miss). Looking at the recent lightning detection system for Alaska Im wondering if leaving the system connected was such a good idea....bit close. http://129.13.102.67/wz/pics/weltlight.html - its also stormy in Accra at the moment I leave for Ghana from here in London on Sunday night with radio cargo still intact, even after the best efforts of a certain airline. I hate jetlag. Ive been told my 9G licence is waiting for me...... Laurence KL1X (G4DMA) http://www.kl1x.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30334 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 20:44:32 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 20:44:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14305 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 20:44:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 20:44:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QvOj-0006mY-FZ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:43:45 +0100 Received: from [24.153.64.113] (helo=smtp-out.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QvOf-0006lY-QK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:43:41 +0100 Received: from snet.net (c-67-163-165-144.client.comcast.net [67.163.165.144]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGF009DPTJYRF@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:49:16 -0400 From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3EEA38CC.8CF8030A@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en References: Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Joe/Jim Well done! What's the distance is between your two stations? Would also be interested in your schedule - just in case Thor happens to be napping at the time... Jay Rusgrove, W1VD Mitch Powell wrote: > To both of you - > Congratulations! > Great achievement - can we assume the success may be due to either > (1) energy beginning to converge towards Stonehenge on the 21st, or > (2) Joe is hooked in and using the TransAtlantic undersea cable as a > counterpoise ? > > Please let us know transmitting schedule, so we can listen in from the > "back end". > > 73 > > Mitch VE3OT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3625 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 19:35:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 19:35:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9108 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 19:35:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 19:35:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QuJs-0006Os-22 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:34:40 +0100 Received: from [64.136.30.74] (helo=m11.lax.untd.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QuJo-0006Oh-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:34:36 +0100 Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewM99c0uV6ZuOIUqD1QTmj0c4PFGSEkD0Kw==">; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:33:19 PDT Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id H2KZK2HA; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:33:19 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:32:22 -0400 Message-ID: <20030613.153222.228.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-12,14-33 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_JUNO_RCVD,NO_REAL_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Actually the time the LF band has been avaible and serious TA work we have been into a high sun spot cycle. As this is going down toward the next peak in 8/9 year I would think that propagation should improve perhaps Mal will realize the goal of TA, manual CW . I hope the FCC will realize their mistake by then HAR Bob K3DJC On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:53:34 -0500 Mitch Powell writes: > > To both of you - > Congratulations! > Great achievement - can we assume the success may be due to either > (1) energy beginning to converge towards Stonehenge on the 21st, or > (2) Joe is hooked in and using the TransAtlantic undersea cable as > a > counterpoise ? > > Please let us know transmitting schedule, so we can listen in from > the > "back end". > > 73 > > Mitch VE3OT > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17985 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 18:52:59 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 18:52:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26581 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 18:52:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 18:52:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Qtev-00063Z-Ek for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:52:21 +0100 Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Qteq-00063Q-4R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:52:16 +0100 Received: from [65.93.67.22] by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030613185210.FOLR9695.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@[65.93.67.22]> for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:52:10 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:53:34 -0500 From: "Mitch Powell" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: In-reply-to: <003901c331cd$88b18d60$09dc9384@jka> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_MACOEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false To both of you - Congratulations! Great achievement - can we assume the success may be due to either (1) energy beginning to converge towards Stonehenge on the 21st, or (2) Joe is hooked in and using the TransAtlantic undersea cable as a counterpoise ? Please let us know transmitting schedule, so we can listen in from the "back end". 73 Mitch VE3OT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14143 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 18:26:59 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 18:26:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12170 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 18:26:59 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 18:26:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QtFv-0005uc-RZ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:26:31 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QtFr-0005uT-WE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:26:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 54185 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 15:47:08 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 15:47:08 +0400 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 22:29:01 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <13046267369.20030613222901@dx.ru> To: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false My congratulations to Jim and Joe with excellent (but hard, I believe) QSO in the difficult period on LF ! What's Joe's QTH-locator? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru http://136.73.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30905 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 17:59:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 17:59:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22446 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 17:59:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 17:59:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Qsp9-0005iF-1J for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:58:51 +0100 Received: from [208.181.178.245] (helo=neptune.imagenisp.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Qsp2-0005hz-Bm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:58:44 +0100 Received: from jsm ([204.244.17.103]) by neptune.imagenisp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id M6MNNV9N; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:01:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c331d5$c6cb1960$6711f4cc@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:01:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Well done Jim and Joe, especially during the 'hardest' part of the year!! Steve "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK": http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [Maritime/Aero DX] [136 kHz * updated] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10563 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 17:10:59 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 17:10:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 24507 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 17:10:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 17:10:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Qs4C-0005Lj-KW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:10:20 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.21] (helo=cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Qs48-0005La-Qh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:10:16 +0100 Received: from modem-4056.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.223.216] helo=shack) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Qs47-000278-ST for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:10:16 +0100 From: "Simon Lewis" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:10:00 +0100 Message-ID: <012e01c331ce$a2e0eea0$1400900a@shack> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This also coincides with the longest period of magnetic inactivity we had for sometime. Well done both! Conditions look to stay quiet for a few days more so make the most! Good opening on 6m last night to caribbean - again due to low K and high SFI. Regards Simon GM4PLM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 13 June 2003 16:47 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Dear LF group, Was very pleased to have a 2 - way 136kHz QSO with Joe, VO1NA early yesterday morning, 12th of June. It took place between about 0050 and 0400 using QRSS30, and "M" reports were exchanged. Propagation has been pretty dismal lately, but Joe's signal can be received quite consistently when the QRN is at a reasonably low level. Yesterday morning, the QRN level was lower than it had been for some time, and signals were just about readable for the whole time the path between us was in darkness. Considering we are nearly at the longest day of the year, this certainly bodes well for the coming winter! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21180 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 16:57:14 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 16:57:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3020 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 16:57:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 16:57:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Qrr0-0005GK-0K for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:56:42 +0100 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Qrqw-0005GB-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:56:38 +0100 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h5DGuYq28732 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jka (208.37.242.34.ptr.us.xo.net [208.37.242.34]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch04072003) id MAA27626; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003901c331cd$88b18d60$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:02:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim & Joe, Congratulations! The season truly never ends. Perhaps when such events take place close to the Summer Solstice, the mode should be called QRSSSS. And just think of it -- such a long QSO without tripping off the Newfoundland power grid! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6720 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 16:37:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 16:37:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9704 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 16:37:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 16:37:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QrWw-00054U-Ds for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:35:58 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QrWs-00054L-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:35:54 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19Qqqx-0001t5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:52:35 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Qqqv-0002kJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:52:33 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030613162644.0252a420@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:47:19 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: T/A QSO with VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF group, Was very pleased to have a 2 - way 136kHz QSO with Joe, VO1NA early yesterday morning, 12th of June. It took place between about 0050 and 0400 using QRSS30, and "M" reports were exchanged. Propagation has been pretty dismal lately, but Joe's signal can be received quite consistently when the QRN is at a reasonably low level. Yesterday morning, the QRN level was lower than it had been for some time, and signals were just about readable for the whole time the path between us was in darkness. Considering we are nearly at the longest day of the year, this certainly bodes well for the coming winter! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27041 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2003 12:17:01 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 12:17:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16075 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Jun 2003 12:17:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2003 12:17:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QnRi-00038l-UM for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:18 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QnRf-00038c-56 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:15 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030613121413.YNDW19142.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c331a5$a130ca40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:16:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Rugby pics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Those who were unable to go on the fascinating trip to GBR yesterday, may like to see the antennas pictured at: http://tx.mb21.co.uk/rugby/. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28975 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 09:01:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 09:01:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1764 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Jun 2003 09:01:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 09:01:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QNvV-0002YY-Rq for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:59:21 +0100 Received: from [213.218.75.230] (helo=smtp01.freeler.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QNvR-0002YJ-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:59:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 11956 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 08:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w8k3f0.freeler.nl) ([62.21.138.218]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp01.freeler.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2003 08:58:46 -0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030612104439.00a13aa0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:58:41 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <3EE7697C.6F2669C1@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: VLF and SW Fielday Experiment Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_10_20,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 19:40 11-6-03 +0200, you wrote:
Hallo OM's

we are on air at our Fieldday from
Saturday, Jun. 14, 12.00 Mez to Sunday, Jun. 15, 14.00 Mez
from  Phöben, near Berlin with a 4 x 100 meter antenne, designed as a
short wave Quad Antenne. Call is DK0CQ ore DN1VLF.
Special frequencies are 136,72 KHz and 137,72 kHz(QRSS). Output power
may be 1 Watt ERP.

best regards
Klaus


When the antenna is a horizontal quad with sides of 100 metres it will radiate a horizontally polarised signal straight up ("cloud warmer").  This is of no use at LF.

A workable system would be to use the feedline with the two conductors in parallel as a vertical radiator, excited against  a good earth, the quad acting as topload.  It could turn out to be advantageous to put ground wires  on the surface below the quad wires to provide a low-loss path for the antenna currents back to the transmitter.

If the quad is to be erected in a vertical plane please forget this message.

I will be listening for your signal in normal CW.

Good luck!

73, Dick, PA0SE

 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1093 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 07:44:31 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 07:44:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3792 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Jun 2003 07:44:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 07:44:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QMkJ-000213-0w for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:43 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QMkF-00020l-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:39 +0100 Received: from host213-122-121-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.121.33] helo=dave) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19QMkE-0006VY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:39 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:44:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EE83D54.23471.7B81D8@localhost> In-reply-to: <3EE7D3BC.3030401@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: Thursday 12 June AMRAD meeting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On 11 Jun 2003 at 21:13, Andre Kesteloot wrote: > The city of Manassas has received FCC approval to put RF in the range > 1.7-30 MHz onto their power lines for "carrier current" tests. > > (Good bye Ham Radio reception there ???) Andre and others might like to go to the RSGB EMC site at http://www.qsl.net/rsgb_emc and read the report on tests of PLT systems in Crieff. This gives a disturbing insight into the problems of PLT including .wav files of real interference. I understand there is a similar report on the DARC site. 73 Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2792 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 07:44:25 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 07:44:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3195 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Jun 2003 07:44:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 07:44:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QMkH-00020u-Sg for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:41 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QMkE-00020h-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:38 +0100 Received: from host213-122-121-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.121.33] helo=dave) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19QMkD-0006VY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:43:37 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:44:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EE83D54.30497.7B8179@localhost> In-reply-to: <72.2ea14029.2c18bbae@aol.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: MMANA--plain text URL? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On 11 Jun 2003 at 13:06, WarmSpgs@aol.com wrote: > I would encourage folks to rethink the use of HTML email on the > reflector, though. Yes indeed. I use Pegasus Mail (http://www.pmail.com) which is excellent and virtually immune from all the MS exploits. It can display HTML correctly, but for preference I have set it to only display the plain text version of HTML mails if they have one. In any case the use of a GIF attachment to show text information (and not even clickable URLs) is a lazy way. The information could just as easily have been typed into the body of a normal email. For the vast majority of emails HTML is not necessary. Of course John could also have got to the MMANA site by clicking on the link on my website I mentioned in my other mail. (http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk/fivemegs/fivemegs.htm) 73 Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12062 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 01:15:17 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 01:15:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17263 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2003 01:15:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2003 01:15:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19QGem-0000LS-GN for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 02:13:36 +0100 Received: from [206.46.170.140] (helo=out001.verizon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19QGed-0000LJ-QS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 02:13:27 +0100 Received: from verizon.net ([141.156.164.86]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030612011253.WNL12592.out001.verizon.net@verizon.net>; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:12:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3EE7D3BC.3030401@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:13:32 -0400 From: "Andre Kesteloot" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "AMRAD Tacos" , "lf-amrad" Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [141.156.164.86] at Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:12:53 -0500 Subject: LF: Thursday 12 June AMRAD meeting Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit 
The city of Manassas has received FCC approval to put RF in the range
1.7-30 MHz onto their power lines for "carrier current" tests. 

(Good bye Ham Radio reception there ???)
 
If testing is going on in Montgomery County, we should 
find out just where and conduct some observations there also. 

The Monthly AMRAD meeting will take place, as usual, at the Dolley 
Madison Public Library, McLean Virginia at 07:30pm  (1930H for the real people)

Frank Gentges K0BRA proposes to bring along some hardware and stuff and 
talk about what we can put together for some observations.   Frank is willing 
to outfit his Frankmobile van into a mobile lab for this work.

73
André N4ICK
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5588 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 17:32:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:32:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 20886 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Jun 2003 17:32:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:32:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Q9S7-0006hB-JF for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:32:03 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.84] (helo=mailout09.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Q9S3-0006h2-Ud for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:32:00 +0100 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Q9S3-0004zX-03; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:31:59 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (VspheUZvre5jNFNB8lSCp0IWrCeUQI0YCUM1dGUkLVUsrHFmPPq5E8@[217.87.11.7]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19Q9Rl-1S8jzc0; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:31:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3EE7697C.6F2669C1@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:40:12 +0200 From: "Klaus Ollesch" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "VLF Infobox" Cc: "Vester Markus" , "Laken, W.H.P.A. van der \(Wil\)" , "G0mrf" , "DK8KW" , "Vreisleben Detlev" X-Seen: false X-ID: VspheUZvre5jNFNB8lSCp0IWrCeUQI0YCUM1dGUkLVUsrHFmPPq5E8 Subject: LF: VLF and SW Fielday Experiment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hallo OM's we are on air at our Fieldday from Saturday, Jun. 14, 12.00 Mez to Sunday, Jun. 15, 14.00 Mez from Phöben, near Berlin with a 4 x 100 meter antenne, designed as a short wave Quad Antenne. Call is DK0CQ ore DN1VLF. Special frequencies are 136,72 KHz and 137,72 kHz(QRSS). Output power may be 1 Watt ERP. best regards Klaus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6558 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 17:12:11 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:12:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28187 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Jun 2003 17:12:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:12:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Q981-0006UL-7E for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:11:17 +0100 Received: from [64.12.136.4] (helo=imo-m01.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Q97w-0006UC-CR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:11:12 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.4f.301c8bfd (3972) for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.301c8bfd.2c18bc8e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:10:38 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: MMANA--plain text URL? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In a message dated 6/11/03 7:02:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sn@scgroup.com writes: >>> http://www.qsl.net/mmhamsoft/mmana/ > Yes, that is correct, and it is the "official" site. (snip) > There seems to be some confusion. The current English version is 0.72, > but one can find versions numbers as high as 1.77 in other languages. > However, those files are older (2000), and smaller (~538 KB), > so I believe that they have less functionality. Thanks. That seems consistent with what little information I was finding about the dates and sizes, so I'll give the one from qsl.net a try. Looks most interesting. Regards, John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32248 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 17:09:36 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:09:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17833 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Jun 2003 17:09:36 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 17:09:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Q94O-0006Sy-BA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:07:32 +0100 Received: from [205.188.157.35] (helo=imo-d03.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Q94K-0006Sp-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:07:28 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.72.2ea14029 (3972) for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:06:55 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <72.2ea14029.2c18bbae@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:06:54 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: MMANA--plain text URL? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In a message dated 6/11/03 7:02:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sn@scgroup.com writes: >> Dick's message was in HTML with an embedded image. His Eudora formatted it correctly, the reflector passed it just fine >> That could very well be the case. AOL said there was an image, yet would not display it...as it has done in the past, even on my primitive version 4.0. :). I would encourage folks to rethink the use of HTML email on the reflector, though. That's one of the biggest security holes on the Internet. Most email clients can be set to not automatically open an attached file (giving you a little extra time to think about it) but not all will give any options about displaying an embedded object except enable HTML/disable HTML. I don't feel comfortable enough to enable it, beyond the very limited capacity of older AOL versions...certainly not in Outlook. Surely most of us remember the worm that spread its way among computers of several members of this group about two years ago? Although I don't believe it was ever spread through the reflector, it was one of those which used an embedded object to start execution of the code. I received copies of it several times in email from the infected computers, but thanks to not having HTML enabled, it caused no harm. A simple file attachment for pictures is still the best solution, in my humble opinion. Regards John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18786 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 11:02:09 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 11:02:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13172 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 11:02:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 11:02:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Q3Ks-0003vd-W5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:00:10 +0100 Received: from [165.254.4.18] (helo=mail.mcf.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Q3Kl-0003vU-Sn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:00:04 +0100 Received: from parissn2 (213.41.137.138) by mail.mcf.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2.1) for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:00:00 -0400 Message-ID: <005501c33008$b578cb90$0700000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <186.1b08242b.2c181bc0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:00:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: MMANA--plain text URL? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090303060107020500010001" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090303060107020500010001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi John and all, > Can anyone confirm whether this is the intended URL? > http://www.qsl.net/mmhamsoft/mmana/ Yes, that is correct, and it is the "official" site. > It appears that the original URL or URLs were supposed to be in an image file > that did not make it through the reflector to my mailbox. IMHO, that is not true. Dick's message was in HTML with an embedded image. His Eudora formatted it correctly, the reflector passed it just fine, and it's almost certain that the AOL server stored it properly in your mailbox. The likely cause of your trouble is that you're still using AOL 4.0. The current version is 8.0! I've included the image as a normal attachment, which should display in-line with modern clients, and should be downloadable with antiques. > The URL above in English, plus http://membres.lycos.fr/radio14wp/ in > French (with a charming MIDI rendition of the Nat King Cole favorite, > "Impossible"), are the only ones I've found via Google so far that are > not principally in Russian or Japanese characters. Is there some other? > Which one seems to have the most current version? There seems to be some confusion. The current English version is 0.72, but one can find versions numbers as high as 1.77 in other languages. 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Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:15:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3EE5CBFD.7050803@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:15:57 +0100 From: "Stewart Bryant" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1cd.b5e81c1.2c16eaa1@aol.com> <000001c32f33$db7c4d60$6507a8c0@Main> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-4.cisco.com id h5ACG5wc026325 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 300W 136kHz TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave Bob may have a preference for not using remote receive, but he ought to be able to hear MB7LF from his QTH. Stewart G3YSX Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Dave, It is sad to hear that Bob has been unable to beat the "noises", I > know what he has to contend with. Please pass on our thanks and good wishes, > for all the work he has done over the last few years to put a consistent and > distinctive hand-keyed morse signal out on the bands, particularly during > the weekdays. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: 10 June 2003 09:02 > Subject: LF: 300W 136kHz TX > > > I had a call from Bob G8RW today. > > Bob has one of my 300W class D transmitters which he ran as a 'beta test' > prototype for me. > > Bob has gone QRT on LF due to the ever increasing switched mode power supply > QRM and would like to find a new home for the TX. > > The transmitter is housed in an aluminium case apx 12 W x 6H x 10 D > (inches). From memory, It has a fan, 12V PSU for the logic and had some > extra > protection voltage clamping diodes fitted across the FETs. - I can't > remember if there > is an internal 30V psu for the FETs or not.......Best check with Bob and > adjust price accordingly. > Frequency control is the on-board VCXO but there is an input on the PCB for > a > DDS etc at CMOS levels. > > Price can be haggled, but something around the cost of the TX kit (£79) > seems > fair as this means you'll save the effort of building it and the cost of the > box, heat sink, fan and PSUs etc. - > > Bob's telephone number is 020 8462 1592 QTH is Bromley Kent. > > 73 > > David G0MRF > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30871 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 10:56:32 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 10:56:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3868 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 10:56:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 10:56:33 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Pgn1-0005Cs-4D for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:55:43 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Pgmx-0005Cj-IQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:55:39 +0100 Received: from host213-122-211-62.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.211.62] helo=dave) by protactinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19Pgmw-00016r-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:55:39 +0100 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:55:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EE5C74C.12930.1366E77@localhost> In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030610095258.00a48ec0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: Re: LF: Antenna simulation program MMANA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I am also an MMANA user, but havent' tried at LF. If you go to http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk/fivemegs/fivemegs.htm you will see a simulation I did on my longwire at 5MHz. As Dick says the interface is very user friendly and it is freeware, doing virtually the same as the more expensive packages. Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1444 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 09:38:16 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 09:38:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25952 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Jun 2003 09:38:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 09:38:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19PfZN-0004cP-36 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:37:33 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19PfZI-0004cC-HP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:37:28 +0100 Received: from host213-122-212-7.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.212.7] helo=Main) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19PfZH-0004X2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c32f33$db7c4d60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1cd.b5e81c1.2c16eaa1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:43:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 300W 136kHz TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, It is sad to hear that Bob has been unable to beat the "noises", I know what he has to contend with. Please pass on our thanks and good wishes, for all the work he has done over the last few years to put a consistent and distinctive hand-keyed morse signal out on the bands, particularly during the weekdays. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 10 June 2003 09:02 Subject: LF: 300W 136kHz TX I had a call from Bob G8RW today. Bob has one of my 300W class D transmitters which he ran as a 'beta test' prototype for me. Bob has gone QRT on LF due to the ever increasing switched mode power supply QRM and would like to find a new home for the TX. The transmitter is housed in an aluminium case apx 12 W x 6H x 10 D (inches). From memory, It has a fan, 12V PSU for the logic and had some extra protection voltage clamping diodes fitted across the FETs. - I can't remember if there is an internal 30V psu for the FETs or not.......Best check with Bob and adjust price accordingly. Frequency control is the on-board VCXO but there is an input on the PCB for a DDS etc at CMOS levels. Price can be haggled, but something around the cost of the TX kit (£79) seems fair as this means you'll save the effort of building it and the cost of the box, heat sink, fan and PSUs etc. - Bob's telephone number is 020 8462 1592 QTH is Bromley Kent. 73 David G0MRF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30031 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 09:07:39 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 09:07:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 16657 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 09:07:40 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 09:07:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Pf5N-0004Mq-OG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:06:33 +0100 Received: from [134.58.240.42] (helo=rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Pf5I-0004Mh-52 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:06:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC6A1D7273 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:05:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9711D7193 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:05:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB0F4C0D2 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:05:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030610105942.00b70a00@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:08:18 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030610095258.00a48ec0@POP3.freeler.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Antenna simulation program MMANA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010904030607030201020104" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE, IN_REP_TOversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010904030607030201020104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am using MMAMA for some time, it's very useful and user friendly (this last cannot be said from many other antenna simulation software).
And above all : it is FREE.
But, as most other antenna simulation software,  it can come up with rather odd results when simulating amateur sized LF antennas. MMAMA seems to give rather good results for short verticals (with and without topload) but I have encountered  strange things when I tried it on loops.

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 09:58 10/06/2003 +0200, you wrote:
To All from PA0SE,

The German magazine CQ DL of April 2003 features a review of MMANA, a computer program for simulation and design of antennas. The examples given in CQ DL are looking good.
The program can be downloaded as freeware from the following URL's:
MMANA.jpg


Instead of typing the URL it is easier to enter MMANA into Google.

73, Dick, PA0SE



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1.0 Subject: LF: Antenna simulation program MMANA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010307010803000101020303" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_10_20,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010307010803000101020303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To All from PA0SE,

The German magazine CQ DL of April 2003 features a review of MMANA, a computer program for simulation and design of antennas. The examples given in CQ DL are looking good.
The program can be downloaded as freeware from the following URL's:
MMANA.jpg


Instead of typing the URL it is easier to enter MMANA into Google.

73, Dick, PA0SE


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Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2003 08:05:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Pe6C-0003oM-NP for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:03:20 +0100 Received: from [205.188.157.34] (helo=imo-d02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Pe68-0003o7-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:03:16 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36.3.) id l.1cd.b5e81c1 (16633) for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 04:02:41 -0400 (EDT) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: <1cd.b5e81c1.2c16eaa1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 04:02:41 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10512 Subject: LF: 300W 136kHz TX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit I had a call from Bob G8RW today.

Bob has one of my 300W class D transmitters which he ran as a 'beta test' prototype for me.  

Bob has gone QRT on LF due to the ever increasing switched mode power supply QRM and would like to find a new home for the TX.

The transmitter is housed in an aluminium case apx 12 W  x 6H x 10 D (inches). From memory, It has a fan, 12V PSU for the logic and had some extra protection voltage clamping diodes fitted across the FETs. - I can't remember if there is an internal 30V psu for the FETs or not.......Best check with Bob and adjust price accordingly.
Frequency control is the on-board VCXO but there is an input on the PCB for a DDS etc at CMOS levels.

Price can be haggled, but something around the cost of the TX kit (£79) seems fair as this means you'll save the effort of building it and the cost of the box, heat sink, fan and PSUs etc. -

Bob's telephone number is  020 8462 1592       QTH is Bromley Kent.

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David  G0MRF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2962 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2003 15:39:29 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 15:39:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 10999 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Jun 2003 15:39:29 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 15:39:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19OflQ-0000yO-5W for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:37:52 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.44] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19OflM-0000yF-41 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:37:48 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:37:17 -0700 Received: from 24.237.14.24 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:37:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.14.24] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:37:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2003 15:37:17.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACEE7F20:01C32D0A] Subject: Re: LF: Ghana activity - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I think my talk back freq is a little low Lets go for Mhz instead of KHz.... >Listening between 137.7725 and 137.7750 Khz - Talk back when available on >18.162 Khz or as indicated on the reflector. (!!) - see web site for >Alaskan Argo channels being monitored > >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24085 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2003 01:11:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 01:11:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 13075 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Jun 2003 01:11:58 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 01:11:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19OSDY-0005Rl-RK for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:10:00 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.116] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19OSDU-0005RX-QH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:09:57 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:09:25 -0700 Received: from 136.226.254.148 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 01:09:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.148] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 17:09:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2003 01:09:25.0611 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FEBCBB0:01C32C91] Subject: LF: Ghana activity - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurence KL1X will (attempt!) to llisten QRSS 60 /CW between 16th-24th June from East Legon Accra Ghana : Any RF will be appreciated! Listening between 137.7725 and 137.7750 Khz - Talk back when available on 18.162 Khz or as indicated on the reflector. I hope to leave the Rx on 24 hrs a day and will attempt to log DCF39 at the same time using Argo. Antenna is a tested portable un-amplified tuned 2 metre sided loop 14T - 1 turn coupling - Rx will be a ts870 which has proved to have superior noise blanking over the 850 (well here anyway). Callsign in 9G to be confirmed Power is dodgy and times and I reserve the right not to be electocuted during thunder storms http://www.kl1x.com wil continue to log and show Alaskan openings (!!) - see web site for Alaskan Argo channels being monitored Ill also, with luck be QRV on 6m with 100W and a 5/8 over 5/8. No wells will be used..... Laurence, Tstorms Anchorage _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19897 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 10:31:40 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 10:31:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14182 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Jun 2003 10:31:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 10:31:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19NVXJ-00018y-Pb for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 11:30:29 +0100 Received: from [81.115.95.203] (helo=host203-95.pool81115.interbusiness.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19NVXF-00018p-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 11:30:25 +0100 Received: from gibraltar.unknow (localhost [::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by host203-95.pool81115.interbusiness.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8949E656AF for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:32:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "valerio" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:32:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20030604092853.M8200@gibraltar.unknow> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.00 20030325 X-OriginatingIP: ::ffff:81.115.95.202 (bianca) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RFT U700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello all, a little bit out of frequency, i have a couple of RFT U700, there is someone in this newsgroup that has schematics or instructions to shift the frequency range in the 70 cm ham band ? '73, Valerio From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30876 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 09:31:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 09:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29174 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Jun 2003 09:30:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 09:30:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19NUZi-0000fU-Ev for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:28:54 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19NUZe-0000fL-8i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:28:50 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-21.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.21] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 19NUZY-0006ii-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:28:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c32a7c$bf72f800$15ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> <3EDBB8AF.3050400@usa.net> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:27:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: QRV again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Back again after a short period in hospital. My first serious encounter with our National Health Service, which in my opinion now, is much maligned. Nearly 90 e-mails waiting to be read, nearly half of them offering anatomical enhancements or extensions to my social life - do people actualy reply to this stuff? Spent quite a lot of the time during recovery playing with a Psion 5 (small palm size computer). I bought my Psion second hand a couple of years ago but never got round to actually using it. . I found that it has a BASIC like programming language called OPL, which has useful things like inverse trig functions. I rewrote the 'Three Meter" ( see pages 86-88 of LF book) program for converting meter readings into R Xj values. Must look around for other Ham radio stuff for the Psion. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16622 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 21:33:29 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 21:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22855 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Jun 2003 21:33:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 21:33:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19NJON-0005Wp-E5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:32:27 +0100 Received: from [130.244.199.130] (helo=fep02-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19NJOJ-0005Wg-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:32:23 +0100 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.36.168]) by fep02-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030603213221.VSCF16738.fep02-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:32:21 +0200 Message-ID: <005901c32a18$00635f40$732865d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EF1BF5E6@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:17:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hei Jan-Martin, > Checked the 74HC4066 which one manufacturer spec'd up to above 12V For some strange reason all 74HC... analog switches are spec'd for higher supply voltages than other chips in the same family, regardless of manufacturer. 73 Johan Bodin SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21127 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 14:26:29 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 14:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28550 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 14:26:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 14:26:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19NCjC-00035D-3v for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:25:30 +0100 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19NCj7-00034v-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:25:25 +0100 Received: from [134.47.162.90] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:24:54 +0200 Received: from tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.91]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:22:43 +0200 Received: from tns-fbu-2e-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.201]) by tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:22:43 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:22:43 +0200 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EF1BF5E6@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: LF: 4060 Divider Thread-Index: AcMp1lF2Rh9R7Qx4SIOozSAic/BvGwABFi3w From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2003 14:22:43.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[98A67BD0:01C329DB] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It is interesting to note that addition of a cooling fin could extend the operational voltage, suggest you check some different manufacturers, like Texas and Motorola, since they often specify CMOS devices for higher voltages than usual. Checked the 74HC4066 which one manufacturer spec'd up to above 12V One problem with the 4020, 4024, 4040 and 4060-type dividers may be that they sometimes don't count properly on the higher frequency side, so you must adjust the input or use another xtal for the desired o/p, this is particularly true if you try to modify the division factor 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK http://home.online.no/~la8ak -----Original Message----- From: James Moritz [mailto:j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk] Sent: 3. juni 2003 14:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider At 11:17 02/06/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can >anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal >will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > >Steve Dear Steve, LF Group According to the National Semiconductor data book, the 74HC4060 has a guaranteed minimum operating frequency of 30MHz at 5V supply. Over the 2 - 6V supply range, typical values are 6MHz and 35MHz respectively. The slower 4000 series CD4060 device operates over a wider voltage range - at 5V supply, guaranteed minumum frequency is 1.5MHz (4MHz typ); 10V, 4MHz (10MHz typ), 15V - 5MHz (12MHz typ). So it is a bit "iffy" for 8.75MHz, but it might be worth selecting a good one if, for example, you wanted everything to work from a 12V rail. These figures really relate to the divider part of the chip. As far as the crystal oscillator part goes, this depends a lot on the crystal and the external components, since the "oscillator" is just a CMOS inverter which provides gain (although the 74HC4060 inverter has been optimised for xtal osc use by increasing the output impedance). But experience shows that an xtal around 9MHz will be no problem for the 74HC device, and will almost certainly work with the 4000 series device too. For details of the oscillator section design, have a look at www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-340.pdf Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30160 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 13:42:18 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 13:42:18 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 17937 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Jun 2003 13:42:18 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 13:42:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19NC2A-0002pH-Mo for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:41:02 +0100 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19NC26-0002p8-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:40:58 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 19NBit-0005om-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:21:07 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19NAzn-0001Gs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:34:31 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030603114630.00af0bf0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:34:29 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 11:17 02/06/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can >anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal >will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > >Steve Dear Steve, LF Group According to the National Semiconductor data book, the 74HC4060 has a guaranteed minimum operating frequency of 30MHz at 5V supply. Over the 2 - 6V supply range, typical values are 6MHz and 35MHz respectively. The slower 4000 series CD4060 device operates over a wider voltage range - at 5V supply, guaranteed minumum frequency is 1.5MHz (4MHz typ); 10V, 4MHz (10MHz typ), 15V - 5MHz (12MHz typ). So it is a bit "iffy" for 8.75MHz, but it might be worth selecting a good one if, for example, you wanted everything to work from a 12V rail. These figures really relate to the divider part of the chip. As far as the crystal oscillator part goes, this depends a lot on the crystal and the external components, since the "oscillator" is just a CMOS inverter which provides gain (although the 74HC4060 inverter has been optimised for xtal osc use by increasing the output impedance). But experience shows that an xtal around 9MHz will be no problem for the 74HC device, and will almost certainly work with the 4000 series device too. For details of the oscillator section design, have a look at www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-340.pdf Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27820 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 10:12:30 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 10:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7876 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 10:12:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 10:12:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19N8lJ-0001jD-Dc for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:11:25 +0100 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N8lF-0001iJ-FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:11:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 8813 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 10:10:49 -0000 Received: from ctuash.plus.com (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 10:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c329b8$560b2c80$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000401c329ae$25f57f00$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <00a101c329b4$9a889400$932465d5@oemcomputer> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:10:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re.Well,well,well Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Group, Johan wrote: > My signal was "armchair copy" at 100km with only 4 watts of output power. What effect does the LF RF have on the water ? Well, there are some products on the market, which claim to reduce lime-scale in pipes by applying an RF field (or sometimes just a magnetic field) to the incoming cold water pipe. (And often cause widespread RFI to the HF band). I THINK they are supposed to work by changing the way the crystals of calcium carbonate form ... but I am dubious about their efficacy. I know of one HFer near here who uses a deep well as part of his ground system and that works well for him, so I wish you well with your deep-dipole antenna experiment. 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29918 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 09:44:01 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 09:44:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25468 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Jun 2003 09:44:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 09:44:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19N8Hu-0001Tm-Uv for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:41:02 +0100 Received: from [130.244.199.132] (helo=fep04-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N8Hk-0001Td-Rb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:40:52 +0100 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.40.218]) by fep04-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030603094051.QJJL16434.fep04-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:40:51 +0200 Message-ID: <00a101c329b4$9a889400$932465d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000401c329ae$25f57f00$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:43:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re.Well,well,well Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie Mayhead wrote: > it will certainly make a good second leg of a vertical dipole !!! It worked quite WELL here. I have no exact figures but the feedpoint resistance of my antenna was 30-40 ohms depending on WX, all losses included. - The 160 mm (approx.) steel tube in my well is 12 meters long, 11m through soil and 1m into the rock. - Loading coil loss was 6 ohms. - 40m of 2.5 mm^2 wire laying on the gnd from steel tube to feedpoint. - Inverted L, 85m long, 12 - 15m above gnd, also 2.5mm^2 wire. - Vertical part of antenna just a few meters from a tall birch tree (not good...) My signal was "armchair copy" at 100km with only 4 watts of output power. BTW, I strongly believe in Laurie's "footprint theory". 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30763 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 08:59:28 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 08:59:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 19325 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Jun 2003 08:59:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 08:59:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19N7ZO-00017m-1D for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:55:02 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N7ZJ-00017Z-Ro for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:54:57 +0100 Received: from modem-53.anarion.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.106.181] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N7ZI-0005wL-Li for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:54:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c329ae$25f57f00$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:35:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re.Well,well,well Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Well,don't knock it, seems to me that even if it does'nt make a real good earth (which is by no means certain ) it will certainly make a good second leg of a vertical dipole !!! Go for it. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11362 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 08:22:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 08:22:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 3033 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Jun 2003 08:22:04 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 08:22:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19N72F-0000tx-34 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:20:47 +0100 Received: from [134.58.240.42] (helo=rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N72A-0000to-PS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:20:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703821D735D for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233201D733A for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DD4C0D0 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:20:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030603101505.00b6fe48@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:22:27 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <01C329AC.912C7730.g4jnt@thersgb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: RE: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I used a 74AHC74 running at 6V up to 200MHz. The first one ran hot and died after some days, I replaced it and glued a small heatsink on top of it. This one is still alive (for 2 years now, fingers crossed). The 74AHC74 can be used as a divide-by-4 , normal 74HC or 74HCT dividers can take over from there. 73, Rik ON7YD PS : trying to push my luck I did run a 74AHC74 at 7V : that worked up to 230MHz but even with a heatsink the IC died after some minutes. At 08:46 3/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: >I sucessfully use 74HC and 74HCT familty to at least 30 - 40MHz. It can >often >be pushed to just above 50MHz. If you want to got faster, the 74ACT >family can >be used as buffers to beyond 100MHz, but counters and shift registers in that >technology don't seem to go much beyond 80MHz in my experience > >Andy g4JNT > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve McDonald [SMTP:jsm@gulfislands.com] >Sent: 2003/06/02 19:18 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: 4060 Divider > >I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can >anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal >will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > >Steve > > >Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm >[L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz >Band] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27272 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 07:47:58 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 07:47:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10207 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 07:47:57 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 07:47:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19N6Uq-0000hb-H1 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 08:46:16 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19N6Um-0000hS-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 08:46:12 +0100 Received: from [80.40.88.107] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19N6Ul-0007hy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 08:46:11 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <01C329AC.912C7730.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:46:03 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.53 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I sucessfully use 74HC and 74HCT familty to at least 30 - 40MHz. It can often be pushed to just above 50MHz. If you want to got faster, the 74ACT family can be used as buffers to beyond 100MHz, but counters and shift registers in that technology don't seem to go much beyond 80MHz in my experience Andy g4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Steve McDonald [SMTP:jsm@gulfislands.com] Sent: 2003/06/02 19:18 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 4060 Divider I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? Steve Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz Band] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18205 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 00:35:28 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 00:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23090 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 00:35:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 00:35:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mzkn-0007SI-5C for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:34:17 +0100 Received: from [208.181.178.245] (helo=neptune.imagenisp.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mzki-0007S9-NQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:34:12 +0100 Received: from jsm ([204.244.18.74]) by neptune.imagenisp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id M1H71PHL; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:32:06 -0700 Message-ID: <001801c32967$234e2500$4a12f4cc@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:29:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks all for the 'good news' !! Steve Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz Band] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32383 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 20:51:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:51:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 16748 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 20:51:44 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:51:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MwGh-0006X5-D7 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:50:59 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.111] (helo=cmsrelay02.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MwGV-0006Wq-LR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:50:47 +0100 Received: from uadvg128.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.128) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:50:36 -0000 Received: from usa.net [62.94.66.113] by uadvg128.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.06H) with ESMTP id 255HFBuYG0006M28; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:50:33 GMT Message-ID: <3EDBB8AF.3050400@usa.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:50:55 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Steve McDonald wrote: >I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can >anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal >will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > >Steve > > I have built a Tayloe mixer for the 137 kHz, and have obtained the LO by dividing an osciillator in the 34+ MHz range. The divisor is a 74HCT4520, not a 4060, but the family is the same, so I think you are on safe grounds at 8 MHz. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17689 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 20:20:35 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:20:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20845 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 20:20:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:20:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mvm6-0006Ji-IN for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:19:22 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mvm2-0006JZ-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:19:18 +0100 Received: from host217-36-20-75.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.36.20.75] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19Mvm1-00053a-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: <005201c32944$73273490$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:20:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The Philips HEF series CMOS chips work to more than 20MHz, other types are not so good. Dave G3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: LF: 4060 Divider > I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can > anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal > will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > > Steve > > > Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz > Band] > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23058 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 19:49:19 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 19:49:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5787 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 19:49:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 19:49:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MvIC-000692-NW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:48:28 +0100 Received: from [209.226.175.55] (helo=tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MvI8-00068t-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:48:24 +0100 Received: from [65.93.71.88] by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030602194820.OBRY483.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@[65.93.71.88]> for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:48:20 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:49:42 -0500 From: "Mitch Powell" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: In-reply-to: <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,USER_AGENT_MACOEversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > > I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can > anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal > will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? I have used some 27 MHz 3rd overtone and they work fine with the 4060. 8 Mhz fundamental xtals also okay. 73 Mitch VE3OT From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20308 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 19:20:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 19:20:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1125 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 19:20:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 19:20:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mupx-0005zR-Hq for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:19:17 +0100 Received: from [213.4.129.150] (helo=telesmtp2.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mupt-0005zI-HN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:19:13 +0100 Received: from adsl ([217.127.130.21]) by telesmtp2.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HFVCBX00.393 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: <001801c3293c$5d46bf40$0501a8c0@adsl> From: "Federico Olaizola" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:22:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve McDonald" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:17 PM Subject: LF: 4060 Divider > I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can > anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal > will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? > > Steve > > > Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm > [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz > Band] > > 4060 work FB OK in 8Mhz - Pin 4 is output for 137 Best 73 EA2HB From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27253 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 18:30:27 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 18:30:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8027 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 18:30:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 18:30:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mu4A-0005gy-O0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:29:54 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.41] (helo=mta1-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mu46-0005gj-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:29:50 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.171]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030602182938.TXRB24453.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:29:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c3292c$78daa240$abe9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c326d2$4d6729a0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000d01c32822$9f07e640$f4d0fc3e@l8p8y6> <000601c32874$f9c599e0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:28:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: LF Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Activity > Hi Mal, > > sorry to correct you but '3JP was "Matt Mulcahy", not McCaughey. "The wee > besom man from Tyrone" when he was broadcasting on BBC, and in real life > the manager of Augher Creamery and named Wilson Guy. > As he himself would say, " Ah mind hum well on thon wireless". > The less said about Dean Swift the better. A real tortured man, and didn't > even have the excuse of being a radio amateur. Your spelling of Gulliver is > a novel one, may I suggest you put a drop more water in it! > > Keep the faith, > > Ian. I knew you would know those above intimately because of the common Rhetoric. They all performed long before my time and I was not sure of the names. I was not sure if it was Mc Ilhatton on Mc Ketchey but you are probably right. Swift, so they say sent the first smoke signals between Tullywiggan bridge and Loughry to warn the salmon poachers that the bailiff was in persuit, early signalling, and something in common with some on LF. Not so long ago there was a mention in a comic about 73 and 136 khz, only being able to cover hundreds of yards, even Swift was doing better than that with smoke!!!!!!!!! Matt Mc Mulcahy and the wife Mary Jane appeared in Cookstown at a concert years ago and they had an old uncle called Kyle from Ballymena, somewhere up country in Antrim, would that be you by any chance? the play was something to do with a battery charger. I was over there recently for a couple of weeks and how things are changing, could'nt find a wet battery for the wireless to tune in Matt and the wife. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9182 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 18:25:28 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 18:25:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26689 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 18:25:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 18:25:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mtyu-0005bf-Qo for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:24:28 +0100 Received: from [208.181.178.245] (helo=neptune.imagenisp.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mtyh-0005bJ-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:24:15 +0100 Received: from jsm ([204.244.18.65]) by neptune.imagenisp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id M1H7DJY9; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:20:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c32933$447cb400$4112f4cc@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:17:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 4060 Divider Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I would like to use the M74HC4060 as a 'divide-by-64' signal source. Can anyone tell me the upper limit for xtals that this chip can handle? My xtal will be on 8.750000; I fear that the upper limit may be around 4-6 MHz? Steve Visit the "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm [L.F. Loop] [Tuna Tin DX] [H.F. Maritime DX] [Crystal Radio DXing] [136 kHz Band] From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5371 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 15:32:10 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 15:32:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5974 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 15:32:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 15:32:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MrHP-0004ow-7B for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:31:23 +0100 Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MrHK-0004on-DG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:31:18 +0100 Received: from lsk.sympatico.ca ([216.208.85.122]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030602153116.HGYT9695.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@lsk.sympatico.ca> for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:31:16 -0400 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030602112216.02a65410@pop2.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1aemm59@pop2.sympatico.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:27:19 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Larry Kayser" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Well, well, well . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 10:29 2003-06-02, Steve Dove wrote..... Typically wells make for less impressive grounds than one might initially think. Firstly, the >metal casing doesn't go all the way down, usually only as far as it takes >to hit reasonably >solid rock that will hold a bore; even then perhaps only the top length >(20 feet) will be >metal, the rest plastic. The metal is usually untreated steel, which >protects itself with a >layer of rust; makes for a lousy electrical dirt/pipe interface. and in Canada most provincial electrical codes REQUIRE the well casing be bonded to the common electrical ground as there can occasionally be a rather large electrical charge built up on the often well insulated from ground steel well pipe casing. Larry VA3LK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30906 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 14:36:03 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 14:36:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16334 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 14:36:03 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 14:36:02 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MqLa-0004Qr-I3 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:31:38 +0100 Received: from [24.153.64.113] (helo=smtp-out.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MqLV-0004QT-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:31:33 +0100 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with SMTP id <0HFU006M7YXVSQ@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:29:54 -0400 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: Well, well, well . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, Typically wells make for less impressive grounds than one might initially think. Firstly, the metal casing doesn't go all the way down, usually only as far as it takes to hit reasonably solid rock that will hold a bore; even then perhaps only the top length (20 feet) will be metal, the rest plastic. The metal is usually untreated steel, which protects itself with a layer of rust; makes for a lousy electrical dirt/pipe interface. Of course at LF the rules are different, but at topband and up the feeling is that deep doesn't win one much, as the RF doesn't penetrate too far. All that said, a connection to the well case will be better than nothing, but not anything over which to rearrange your universe. Speaking as someone with a surfeit of wells, and rescued by a dowser. (It's a two-pint story.) Cheers, Steve 6/2/2003 1:45:12 AM, "flo flo" wrote: > >Ive measured my water well at some 199 metres in depth using a dropped >object/versus time to plop calculation. > >The well bore casing is some 6 inches in diameter of 5mm thickness steel. Im >taking it that the well bore casing is electically contigious. > >Im considering moving my 32 metres vertical section to rise vertically above >the well casing and keep the array as it was except that that the aerial >will start to look more like an offset T than an L. (tthis helps to keep >the vertical section far away from the Rhon tower > >At present - The well casing is connected back to the main eath radial >system and tower some 27 metres distant using multiples of 8 gauge copper. I >can extend the old radial system to "radiate" from this new spot. > >Question - Will the low R vertical casing into the alluvial deposits make an >efficient LF radio earth - and what if any are the likely radiation >characteristics of doing so? (Im taking it that for the given diameter/area >that the well casing is making reasonable good connection into the strata). >The bottom of the well is in clean ground water. > >Any body any records of using a well do reduce Earth resistance losses?, or >as Im going down vertically will it have little affect. I know it may have >little effect against the Cap top... > >Will the antennae start to look like an offset lossy vertical lop sided >dipole? > >Am I wasting my time? Im thinking of adding this one to the Radio Amateurs' >Exam Question pool. > >Laurence KL1X > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20856 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 05:47:16 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 05:47:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: (qmail 21340 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Jun 2003 05:47:16 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 05:47:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mi8i-0002CC-4x for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:45:48 +0100 Received: from [64.4.23.104] (helo=hotmail.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19Mi8e-0002Bs-10 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:45:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:45:12 -0700 Received: from 24.237.14.24 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:45:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.14.24] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] From: "flo flo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:45:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2003 05:45:12.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[22C0C770:01C328CA] Subject: LF: Conumdrum - a series of weekly stump the team Q's....No. 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ive measured my water well at some 199 metres in depth using a dropped object/versus time to plop calculation. The well bore casing is some 6 inches in diameter of 5mm thickness steel. Im taking it that the well bore casing is electically contigious. Im considering moving my 32 metres vertical section to rise vertically above the well casing and keep the array as it was except that that the aerial will start to look more like an offset T than an L. (tthis helps to keep the vertical section far away from the Rhon tower At present - The well casing is connected back to the main eath radial system and tower some 27 metres distant using multiples of 8 gauge copper. I can extend the old radial system to "radiate" from this new spot. Question - Will the low R vertical casing into the alluvial deposits make an efficient LF radio earth - and what if any are the likely radiation characteristics of doing so? (Im taking it that for the given diameter/area that the well casing is making reasonable good connection into the strata). The bottom of the well is in clean ground water. Any body any records of using a well do reduce Earth resistance losses?, or as Im going down vertically will it have little affect. I know it may have little effect against the Cap top... Will the antennae start to look like an offset lossy vertical lop sided dipole? Am I wasting my time? Im thinking of adding this one to the Radio Amateurs' Exam Question pool. Laurence KL1X _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13651 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2003 20:33:43 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 20:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17540 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2003 20:33:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 20:33:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MZVO-0000Oj-RE for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:32:38 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MZVK-0000Oa-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:32:35 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.210.30]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030601203234.BETD392.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:32:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c32874$f9c599e0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c326d2$4d6729a0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> <000d01c32822$9f07e640$f4d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mal, sorry to correct you but '3JP was "Matt Mulcahy", not McCaughey. "The wee besom man from Tyrone" when he was broadcasting on BBC, and in real life the manager of Augher Creamery and named Wilson Guy. As he himself would say, " Ah mind hum well on thon wireless". The less said about Dean Swift the better. A real tortured man, and didn't even have the excuse of being a radio amateur. Your spelling of Gulliver is a novel one, may I suggest you put a drop more water in it! Keep the faith, Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9535 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2003 10:52:16 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 10:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22910 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Jun 2003 10:52:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 10:52:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19MQMM-0006sU-06 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:46:42 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19MQMH-0006sL-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:46:38 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.244]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030601104636.NSIA392.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 11:46:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c32822$9f07e640$f4d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c326d2$4d6729a0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:25:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF Activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.7 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: LF: LF Activity > Hi all, > reading the mail it looks like I got everything back together > again just in time. Have put out a couple of tests and one CQ on 137.7 just > in case anyone was watching. > Haven't finished all the tests yet but so far results are > encouraging -except for "The Mystery", which appears to be still there. > In short; coil was 'relieved' of as much redundant ply as possible, grew a > lot more taps and has now got luxurious quarters of its own clad with uPVC > soffit. Feed now by 5sq mm flat twin ('oxygen free' as sold to gullible > motorists at vast expense if paid for - mine wasn't,) giving a feeder with a > total C of about 35pF. > Interestingly enough the antenna current on 73KHz now pins the needle hard > against the stop so there has been a further useful increase there. Revision > of the meter multipliers necessary! On 137 not so noticeable but some > definite improvement. > Will be around this weekend but start gallivanting at the end of next week > and will be 'LF-less' until 24 June, in time for final obsequies and the > obligatory wake on 73. > > There may well be some postings with unusual origins in the meantime. Hi Ian You should have been a POET, only surpassed by those from west of the Bann, like Mat Mc Caughy (GI3JP) and Dean Swift (Guillevers Travels) Your are wasted dabbling on LF and BK amplifiers!!!!!!!!!! . > > Here's hoping Alan is right about Sunday. > > 73 de > > Ian MI0AYZ/GI8AYZ > > > > >