From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1159 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 21:59:15 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 21:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 15294 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 21:59:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 21:59:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1907IU-0008Kl-H1 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:58:30 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.110] (helo=cmsrelay01.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1907IP-0008Kc-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:58:25 +0100 Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.136) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 21:58:23 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.217.167.112] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 244HcEV7u0476M36; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:58:21 GMT Message-ID: <3E88B868.6060100@usa.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:51:36 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2F795.EDC2A760.g4jnt@thersgb.net> <3E885164.2020700@usa.net> <001301c2f7ba$3e2e61c0$6507a8c0@Main> Subject: LF: RE: LF and apple juice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan Melia wrote: >I would be very annoyed if my microwave oven started eating my dinner for >me....like to dog....it would have to go !! > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > Hi Alan, don't be so fussy for an omitted letter "h" ... after all English isn't my first language :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26845 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 21:30:53 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 21:30:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24492 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 21:30:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 21:30:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1906qp-00080v-9N for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:29:55 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1906qk-00080m-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:29:50 +0100 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.192]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331212949.GNAZ27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:29:49 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01c2f7c4$5320bba0$42d3fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:29:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Frustrations! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thank you to all who made kind remarks and helpful suggestions. The coil is 18" dia., 24" long, 200 or so turns of 1mm silver plated PTFE insulated stranded wire. Vario of 600uH included and total available L abt 12mH. Only abt 7mH used. The plastic dustbin that housed the earlier 4mH coil easily, sits on top of it like a grenadiers shako. The 'dogbox' is approximately 1m. cube, and wrapped in a double layer of 1200guage builders poly sheet for waterproofing. ( I NEVER throw out stuff that just might be useful - some day) When the increased antenna current was observed the coil was sitting directly on a concrete path and in the same position relative to brick and concrete block walls as when finalised, and with the roughcut panels in their planned positions as already described. The only change was to raise it 5" off the deck so that I could reach the tapping points and the vario. Four separate checks were made on the improvement on each of the two bands as things were moved around. But obviously SOMETHING is different - possibly the earth connection which was remade with a blowlamp today. Now the sackcloth and ashes - I did not leave a gap in the foil, but after its removal things were just as per last Friday, - except that the observed improvement had vanished. So did a quantity of Pedigree in a drowning of sorrow. The whole contraption is only intended to survive until we lose 73 KHz, (after which it will probably become a play hut for visiting grandsons) and the standard of construction reflects this, but I am thrawn enough to get good and mad when inanimate objects develop human tendencies! If at first you don't succeed - Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2595 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 20:20:57 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 20:20:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2359 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 20:20:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 20:20:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1905kp-0007bf-Td for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:19:39 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1905kk-0007bW-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:19:34 +0100 Received: from tnt-18-146.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.146] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1905kj-00064H-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:19:33 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c2f7c3$800834a0$92e086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2f7a3$1f8d9ea0$07d2fc3e@ian> <003101c2f7b3$1954f500$cbe8fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:17:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Loading coils Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > NEVER put your loading coil in a metal box, it totally destroys the > efficiency. Consider it as part of the antenna from the radiation point of > view. You have never seen a loading coil on a Mobile encased in a metal CAN, > the coil contributes to the over all efficiency ie coil plus whip. > I have seen reference to encasing the loading coil here on this reflector > that is why those signals are poor. > My coil sits outside exposed to the elements and does not seem to be > effected by changing wx, neither does the amps vary whether it be dry or > wet. Recent info on here suggests heating the loading coil to increase the > amps consumed, if this is the case the coil wire, insulation etc is very > suspect. > I change my antenna wire and rewind a new coil at least once a year. I also > check the insulated radials and change if necessary. > Try a turkey next Xmas without the FOIL, Foil is nether good for antenna > coils or Turkeys > 73 de Mal/G3KEV The loading coil complex used by the Decca stations were located in a small concrete building. In the early days I understand that there were problems until the whole building was lined with copper - in other words a screened box. This screened box was also electrically heated. It is obvious that these Decca design engineers didn't know what they were talking about. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31767 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:28:34 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21196 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 19:28:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:28:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904wQ-0007Bw-AR for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:34 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904wG-0007Bi-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:24 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.203]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331192722.DOAE27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c2f7b3$1954f500$cbe8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2f7a3$1f8d9ea0$07d2fc3e@ian> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:15:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Frustration! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: "Ed Lesnichy" ; Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: LF: Frustration! > Hi Ed, hi all, > > been workin the old socks off these last few days only to wind up where > I started. Put loading coil outside last Friday and got an immediate > worthwhile increase in antenna current. Ever suspicious, checked it with the > rough-cut plywood panels for its rightful home chocked perilously round it > and all well. > Finished box yesterday except for antenna access and waterproofing so got > stuck in today to finish job by lining with 'turkey foil' and sealing > antenna entry point. Result? > Worse than when indoors even after much rematching and tuning, so ripped off > foil and am now back where I was for antenna current, it's blowing like mad > and rain is on the way. But at least the dam'thing isn't taking up space in > the shack. Hello Ian NEVER put your loading coil in a metal box, it totally destroys the efficiency. Consider it as part of the antenna from the radiation point of view. You have never seen a loading coil on a Mobile encased in a metal CAN, the coil contributes to the over all efficiency ie coil plus whip. I have seen reference to encasing the loading coil here on this reflector that is why those signals are poor. My coil sits outside exposed to the elements and does not seem to be effected by changing wx, neither does the amps vary whether it be dry or wet. Recent info on here suggests heating the loading coil to increase the amps consumed, if this is the case the coil wire, insulation etc is very suspect. I change my antenna wire and rewind a new coil at least once a year. I also check the insulated radials and change if necessary. Try a turkey next Xmas without the FOIL, Foil is nether good for antenna coils or Turkeys 73 de Mal/G3KEV > Suspect earthing troubles but in the meantime I think I'll take to drink! > Little point in trying to set skeds with RU, but as some broad said in some > movie or other "tomorrow is another day" > > MI0AYZ > > PS - will be watching and listening Tuesday and available if anyone wants to > take a chance on a sked. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17444 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:28:29 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:28:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 21155 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 19:28:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:28:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904wa-0007CB-3o for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:44 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904wU-0007C1-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:38 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.203]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331192737.DODA27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c2f7b3$22337700$cbe8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:26:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: S57A es YU7AR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Both stations always good signals here in Scarborough IO94SH . Please listen for me on normal CW 137.20 khz and reply either on normal cw or QRS on this frequency. I will be active this week and w/end daytime and early evening.
Hope to have a normal CW QSO soon.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12223 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:24:34 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:24:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22362 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 19:24:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:24:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904sa-00078w-PX for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:23:36 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904sV-00078f-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:23:31 +0100 Received: from modem-2839.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.219.23] helo=shack) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904sT-00044X-Sn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:23:30 +0100 From: "Simon Lewis" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:23:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c2f7bb$05b1d240$b163893e@shack> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <001001c2f7b9$e90fea60$b163893e@shack> Subject: LF: G3GRO acvty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Derek and Co will be QRV tonight at around 2130 local on 137.000 from Lands End. First attempt will be with us up here in GM so keep yrs eye and ears peeled! Gd lk! They will be active on 72K tomorrow morning once they have resonated the ant and are happy with it all. They have been busy hunting noise sources today :-) Regards Simon GM4PLM and David GM0MRF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17172 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:19:17 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:19:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 10794 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:19:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:19:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904nb-00072e-OP for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:18:27 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904nW-0006zp-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:18:22 +0100 Received: from host213-122-107-100.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.107.100] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 1904nV-0002ea-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:18:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c2f7ba$3e2e61c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2F795.EDC2A760.g4jnt@thersgb.net> <3E885164.2020700@usa.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:42:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: LF and apple juice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I would be very annoyed if my microwave oven started eating my dinner for me....like to dog....it would have to go !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: 31 March 2003 15:32 Subject: LF: RE: LF and apple juice > Andy talbot wrote: > > >Shouldn't we be concerned about that report? It suggests there are effects of > >RF on biological tissue other than heating, and if the public got to hear of > >these findings there could be yet more uninformed paranoia about RF safety > >issues. > > > A few months ago, I started a rumor among my friends (those not too much > versed in electronic > and physics at least...). > I started saying that microwave ovens are dangerous, as some part of the > "radiation" that > eats up the foods can remain inside them even after the oven is switched > off, and this > can be potentially dangerous to the health..... > > I am monitoring how much time it will pass until this "alert" will reach > the press or even the TV... > > :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16286 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:16:43 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:16:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12217 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 19:16:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:16:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904ku-0006yR-8E for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:15:40 +0100 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904ko-0006yE-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:15:34 +0100 Received: from modem-2839.tiger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.219.23] helo=shack) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904kn-00040A-Jn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:15:33 +0100 From: "Simon Lewis" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:15:31 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c2f7b9$e90fea60$b163893e@shack> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Hi all Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Been working away with David GM0MRF(!) over the past few days on LF - all very interesting. Have talked him into leaving me some gear here and the antenna up so will be QRV on LF once he leaves. If anyone wants a QSO on cw/qrss then please email me! Regards Simon GM4PLM IO75TL nr Ayr From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7347 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:11:46 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:11:46 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 8831 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 19:11:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:11:45 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1904fn-0006ud-P4 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:10:23 +0100 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1904fh-0006uU-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:10:18 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@edwards.boc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1049137816!53841 Received: (qmail 13956 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 19:10:16 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-10.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 19:10:16 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:10:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 2AGJWKL5; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:14:58 +0100 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:10:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:10:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: GAIN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ole Buddy! > I measured the gain today between my 90 metre perimiter vertical loop resonated on 137 khz and > my vertical system. The vertical has a 20 db gain over the loop measuring the noise floor. Using the Decca RF pre amp with > the loop gets close to the vertical performance but with the disadvantage of being only bi-directional. Measuring a signal >above the NF indicates the same 20 db gain by the vertical. The band is quiet with no environmental or locally generated >noise problems.The vertical is way ahead of the loop at this QTH. The loop is not worth considering as a TX > antenna given the above results. This recent test confirms previous observations. I see your still having problems with understanding how to connect up to that loop - transformer ratios and all. Don't give up; you'll figure it out one of these days. Bill Ashlock PS: I have to admit my TX loop didn't set the record distance over here this season........... but my 1785 miles came within 35 miles of it ! _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 605 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 17:43:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 17:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 16126 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 17:43:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 17:43:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1903Fv-0006Re-Pe for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:39:35 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1903Fm-0006RV-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:39:26 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.30]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331173925.BFRV27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2f7a4$0453e760$1ee8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:38:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: GAIN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I measured the gain today between my 90 metre perimiter  vertical loop resonated on 137 khz and my vertical system. The vertical has a 20 db gain over the loop measuring the noise floor. Using the Decca RF pre amp with the loop gets close to the vertical performance but with the disadvantage of being only bi-directional. Measuring a signal above the NF indicates the same 20 db gain by the vertical. The band is quiet with no environmental or locally generated noise problems.
The vertical is way ahead of the loop at this QTH. The loop is not worth considering as a TX antenna given the above results.
This recent test confirms previous observations.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1038 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 17:34:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 17:34:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 7988 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 17:34:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 17:34:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19038w-0006L2-Dj for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:32:22 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19038n-0006Kt-0t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:32:13 +0100 Received: from ian ([62.252.210.7]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331173211.WTWS22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@ian>; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:32:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c2f7a3$1f8d9ea0$07d2fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: "Ed Lesnichy" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:31:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Frustration! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ed, hi all, been workin the old socks off these last few days only to wind up where I started. Put loading coil outside last Friday and got an immediate worthwhile increase in antenna current. Ever suspicious, checked it with the rough-cut plywood panels for its rightful home chocked perilously round it and all well. Finished box yesterday except for antenna access and waterproofing so got stuck in today to finish job by lining with 'turkey foil' and sealing antenna entry point. Result? Worse than when indoors even after much rematching and tuning, so ripped off foil and am now back where I was for antenna current, it's blowing like mad and rain is on the way. But at least the dam'thing isn't taking up space in the shack. Suspect earthing troubles but in the meantime I think I'll take to drink! Little point in trying to set skeds with RU, but as some broad said in some movie or other "tomorrow is another day" MI0AYZ PS - will be watching and listening Tuesday and available if anyone wants to take a chance on a sked. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19543 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 16:17:17 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 16:17:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13220 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 16:17:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 16:17:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1901td-0005x2-GE for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:12:29 +0100 Received: from [205.188.157.36] (helo=imo-d04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1901tU-0005wi-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:12:20 +0100 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.75.dc0d2b0 (3980) for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:11:42 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <75.dc0d2b0.2bb9c2be@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:11:42 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: MSF Info (forwarded) Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear all,

Received this from another group, may be interesting for the lucky holders of a 73kHz NOV.
Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF


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From: "Myrton" <n1gke@cox.net>
Subject: MSF Update

I thought some folks would perhaps be interested in this information.

Historic Radio Site at Rugby to Close
We reported three weeks ago that the BT radio site at Criggion, near Welshpool, was closing soon. It's emerged that this is part of a change to the communications arrangements for Royal Navy submarines that's likely to see the final closure of another historic radio site at Rugby. A consortium led by VT Merlin Communications has won a private finance initiative contract to modernise the VLF transmitter site at Anthorn in Cumbria. The consortium will also be responsible for providing new digital receivers. The contract is ultimately worth about 280 million pounds and will involve the close-down of the 16kHz VLF transmitter at Rugby. It's understood that most of BT's HF services from Rugby have now ceased, and that the site is likely to close next year.

The standard time and frequency station, MSF, which transmits on 60kHz from the Rugby site, may be off the air for up to four hours this Tuesday, the 1st of April, on one of its regularly-scheduled maintenance periods. These take place between 1000 and 1400UTC on the first Tuesdays of January, April, July and October. MSF will be closed down for a period of two weeks for maintenance purposes during July, August or September, although the precise dates are not yet known.


Cheers....



Myrton - N1GKE -
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20332 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 14:33:43 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 14:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18305 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 14:33:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 14:33:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1900Kw-0005IH-AE for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:32:34 +0100 Received: from [165.212.11.2] (helo=cmsrelay05.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1900Kp-0005I8-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:32:27 +0100 Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 14:32:18 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.217.171.133] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 273HcEoGq0077M30; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:32:16 GMT Message-ID: <3E885164.2020700@usa.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:32:04 +0200 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2F795.EDC2A760.g4jnt@thersgb.net> Subject: LF: RE: LF and apple juice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Andy talbot wrote: >Shouldn't we be concerned about that report? It suggests there are effects of >RF on biological tissue other than heating, and if the public got to hear of >these findings there could be yet more uninformed paranoia about RF safety >issues. > A few months ago, I started a rumor among my friends (those not too much versed in electronic and physics at least...). I started saying that microwave ovens are dangerous, as some part of the "radiation" that eats up the foods can remain inside them even after the oven is switched off, and this can be potentially dangerous to the health..... I am monitoring how much time it will pass until this "alert" will reach the press or even the TV... :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7625 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 14:01:59 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 14:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 863 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 14:01:59 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 14:01:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zzpE-00053k-MW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:59:48 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.142] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zzp6-00053b-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:59:40 +0100 Received: from [80.40.88.142] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18zzp1-0001XS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:59:36 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:58:03 +0100 Message-ID: <01C2F795.EDC2A760.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:58:00 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: LF and apple juice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Shouldn't we be concerned about that report? It suggests there are effects of RF on biological tissue other than heating, and if the public got to hear of these findings there could be yet more uninformed paranoia about RF safety issues. Whereas we Radio Amateurs know full-well that RF is perfectly safe at all levels, and that huge antennas are things of beauty. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Andre Kesteloot [SMTP:andre.kesteloot@verizon.net] Sent: 2003/03/31 13:21 To: rsgb_lf_group Subject: LF: LF and apple juice << File: ATT00001.txt; charset = UTF-8 >> From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21481 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 12:23:33 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 12:23:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29083 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 12:23:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 12:23:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zyHo-0004U7-05 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:21:12 +0100 Received: from [206.46.170.142] (helo=out004.verizon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zyHW-0004Tv-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:20:54 +0100 Received: from verizon.net ([141.156.173.184]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030331122014.YNLQ10550.out004.verizon.net@verizon.net>; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:20:14 -0600 Message-ID: <3E883297.1080508@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:20:39 -0500 From: "Andre Kesteloot" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group" X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [141.156.173.184] at Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:20:13 -0600 Subject: LF: LF and apple juice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2003/030327.htm Another application of LF André N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8649 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 29622 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 10:56:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 10:56:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zwwb-0003yq-7H for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:55:13 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zwwR-0003yh-BR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:55:03 +0100 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.110]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030331105502.RWHC27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian>; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:55:02 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c2f76b$a340f5e0$6ed0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: "Ed Lesnichy" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <000801c2f0bd$4cc10ac0$c4d0fc3e@ian> <164233664291.20030331132221@dx.ru> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:54:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 73k portable activity starting next weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ed, hi all, tnx e-mail. System down at the moment (coffee time -vy important!) while struggling to improve antenna current. Work should be progressed enough for QRV on both bands around 1800z if not earlier, and I will post when ready. What my ERP is or will be, God alone knows, since I have just discovered that the earth resistance test carried out by a supposed "expert" is entirely a work of fiction based on what NIElectricity thought it might be some years back - therefore any previous guesstimates can be considered to be BLX. Noise and general glop on 73 KHz vy bad indeed, and even MRF was getting clobbered, so have been getting on with the joinery work rather than watching since yesterday PM so that things should be complete for Tuesday AM and a shot at the GRO/MBU xpedishun. Nothing for it but to keep trying! 73, A very frustrated MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8538 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 08:09:54 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 08:09:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 29784 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 08:09:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 08:09:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zuLj-00031s-8O for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:08:59 +0100 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zuLe-00031j-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:08:54 +0100 Received: from modem-124.avallone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.130.252] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zuLd-0005tp-Mu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:08:54 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c2f75c$d6e551c0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:07:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: GM expedition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave I am listening /looking on 71.830/920. Peter is on at the moment, dont want to QRM him. Will be here for next hour OK. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18548 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 07:55:01 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 07:55:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 18944 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 07:55:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 07:55:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zu3f-0002rM-HL for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:50:19 +0100 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zu3a-0002r8-ON for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:50:14 +0100 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030331075014.FCYF25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2f75a$695cc540$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003801c2f55e$21128cf0$18359fd4@dellboy> <000b01c2f70d$b52791a0$86ce28c3@erica> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:52:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Expeditions & ECM Smog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false G3LDO wrote: > Worked Dave YXM after Laurie and Jim on Saturday. However I was unable to > copy Dave on CW mainly due to the ECM smog. Used mixed mode CW/QRSS3 > The electrical QRM situation has has become very much worse than on the > early days of 73kHz. The estate where I live was once very much a retirement > area but now we have many more neighbours with children. The rise in QRM on > Saturday morning is very noticable due to TVs and electrical games. That is also my experience on 73kHz. My own widescreen TV puts out some bad QRM and I had to turn it off (that is OFF, not standby) to read GM3YXM., and even then the band was full of noise - no trace of Loran which used to be audible. My previous TV was cured by putting a braid-breaker on the aerial lead, but I don't use an aerial any more. My signals come down a SCART lead which is much more difficult to screen or decouple. Fortunately, so far, 136kHz is less troubled by such QRM. Tried a sked with GM0MRF on 73k yesterday and could see their QRSS3 signals well, but they had electrical noise so were unable to read me. They are working on the problem and we have another sked planned for today. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8562 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 07:47:50 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 07:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11819 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Mar 2003 07:47:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 07:47:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zttP-0002mb-4d for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:39:43 +0100 Received: from [195.110.100.4] (helo=mail.dada.it) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zttK-0002mS-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:39:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 11158 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 07:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cestag) (195.110.102.213) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 07:39:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c2f758$d1e4a300$d5666ec3@cestag> From: "cesare tagliabue" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c2f6f1$c66bcce0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:39:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: R: I5TGC "O" on QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Alan Many thanks for 'O' report, also Mal G3KEV was receiving my signals yesterday in the morning, unfortunately no QSO have been made, only the previously contacted S57A, OK1DTN and another faint unidentified signal were visible here. Hope better in the future, 73 Cesare Cesare Tagliabue I 5 TGC WW-Loc JN53PS e-mail: cestag@dada.it url: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Alan Melia" A: "LF-Group" Data invio: domenica 30 marzo 2003 21.22 Oggetto: LF: I5TGC "O" on QRSS3 > Hi Cesare you have a nice signal in the UK tonight at 1920z on abt > 137.716kHz. There is some distant static but it is not giving you any > trouble. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18675 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 22:42:44 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 22:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 17755 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 22:42:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 22:42:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zlRb-0000k1-4t for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:27 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zlRV-0000jo-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:21 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-134.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.134] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18zlRO-0000d2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c2f70d$b52791a0$86ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003801c2f55e$21128cf0$18359fd4@dellboy> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:22:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Expeditions & ECM Smog Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030301030901060608040005" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030301030901060608040005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Worked Dave YXM after Laurie and Jim on Saturday. However I was unable to copy Dave on CW mainly due to the ECM smog. Used mixed mode CW/QRSS3 The electrical QRM situation has has become very much worse than on the early days of 73kHz. The estate where I live was once very much a retirement area but now we have many more neighbours with children. The rise in QRM on Saturday morning is very noticable due to TVs and electrical games. It will be interesting to see what it is like on Monday morning. Derek called in to see me on Saturday morning to pick up a 220m of antenna wire. The plan was that he was to phone me and I would put out progress on the Lands End expedition on the reflector. Nothing heard as yet. I will be on in the morning at around 0800 local on 71.85kHz. 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(193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 22:42:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zlRc-0000kB-38 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:28 +0100 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zlRW-0000js-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:23 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-134.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.134] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18zlRW-0000d2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:38:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2f70d$b9bcf840$86ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003b01c2f56d$ca65ba20$60d2fc3e@ian> <001301c2f570$85cf41d0$6b339fd4@dellboy> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:42:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Marconi Rx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I occasionally refurbish old communication equipment for Amberley museum. On my last visit, to return a spruced up AR88, I found Dave, the curator of the Radio and Telephone section, fishing out an old TR1133 for someone who was refurbishing a Hurricane fighter plane. Amongst some of the stuff that came to light, covered in dust, was a Marconi Marine 'Apollo' receiver. As it seemed to cover the LF bands I asked if this might be the subject of a refurbishment! This receiver is HEAVY but once the steel case was removed the weight was reduced by 25%. It seems to be an example of early solid state design with a separate LF front end and has a digital nixie tube display. Unfortunately, it seems to have been owned at one time by Roger the bodger and there are screening panels missing. The receiver does work but the sound is very distorted. Anyone met one of these receivers? Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21407 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 19:25:25 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 19:25:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 7527 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Mar 2003 19:25:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 19:25:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ziP4-0008Hs-Qb for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:23:38 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ziP0-0008Hj-18 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:23:34 +0100 Received: from host213-122-49-244.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.49.244] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18ziOz-0003P5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:23:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c2f6f1$c66bcce0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:22:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: I5TGC "O" on QRSS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Cesare you have a nice signal in the UK tonight at 1920z on abt 137.716kHz. There is some distant static but it is not giving you any trouble. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17324 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 16:37:05 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 16:37:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11287 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 16:37:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 16:37:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zfmM-0007TA-PY for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:35:30 +0100 Received: from [64.12.136.163] (helo=imo-m08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zfmG-0007Sz-FM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:35:24 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.a4.35aabfa8 (15887) for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.130]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID82-3e0f3e871ca7117; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:34:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:34:47 -0500 From: G0MRF@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <357A4FFB.6B916D00.0000CE2C@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Subject: LF: GM expeditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello From Bonnie Scotland. Have seen that the Kp Index is up to "storm" on maj.com I think as it's currently 5 that my chances of making it over the pond tonight (Sunday)are rather slim. So will save the electricity and get some sleep. Managed to get 125 metres of wire in the air and have a reasonable 2.5 Amps of antenna current on 72kHz with about 300W output power. 136 is better and have 3.7Amps with about 600W. Worked Dave GM3YXM earlier CW/QRSS but still finding and curing local noise sources. Thanks Ian MI0AYZ for a new country for me on 71.8k Sri Mike G3XDV. Received at level 'T' but not out of my noise enough to resolve calls. (Vy nice signal from you on the Birmingham remote receive though www.wireless.org.uk\grab) Hope to find Peter Laurie and Derek later on 71.905. 136k strangly quiet this morning. 73 David GM0MRF 07958 402550 or LL 01290 700008 (9-9) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6518 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 12:18:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 12:18:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18714 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Mar 2003 12:18:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 12:18:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zbkm-0006PM-Ns for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:17:36 +0100 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zbkb-0006PD-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:17:25 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2UCHK8M002534 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:47:21 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2UCHKdc028700 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:47:20 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2UCHJ3w012075; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:47:19 -0330 (NST) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:47:18 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 30 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Rien Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16755 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2003 11:59:48 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 11:59:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5104 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Mar 2003 11:59:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2003 11:59:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zbP9-0006ID-D2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:55:15 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zbP4-0006I4-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:55:10 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.204.187]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030330115509.NJTF11888.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:55:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2f6aa$c1853140$bbccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:54:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ACTY Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
        Lots of activity this morning.
GM0MRF, DL3JMM, I5TGC, S57A and OK1DTN all calling CQ around the same time on QRS apparently not seeing each other, or could it be that they had all worked each other before.
All signals were also audible here at varying strengths but GM0MRF was so strong that his key up/down created a 10 hz spread, I suppose this is to be expected with a very strong signal at this range.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2262 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 13:06:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 13:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5058 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Mar 2003 13:06:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 13:06:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zG0U-0000ei-B5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:04:22 +0000 Received: from [212.159.3.230] (helo=mx.exim.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zG0P-0000dg-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:04:17 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by mx.exim.plus.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 18zFzu-0004K4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:03:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 2871 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 13:03:42 -0000 Received: from 128.nas11.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (HELO dellboy) (212.159.48.128) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 13:03:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c2f5f3$c9c3b6e0$80309fd4@dellboy> From: "Dave Mobile" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003b01c2f56d$ca65ba20$60d2fc3e@ian> <001301c2f570$85cf41d0$6b339fd4@dellboy> <001201c2f5db$2127e1e0$8dcdfc3e@ian> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:04:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 73/136 GM XPED. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Yes thanks for the first GI/GM on 73k Ian. I had heard you calling a little earlier, glad to make it in the end! No noise here unless the TV is on, then it's disaster... 73. Dave GM3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73/136 GM XPED. > Hi Dave, > tnx for first GI/GM but we only just made it! As you started > your final you were wiped out by one colossal 'wavy line' of the full set > which are still there as I write and making life very difficult. > You've certainly got the weather for it. > > 73 de, > > Ian MI0AYZ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31397 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 10:09:07 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 10:09:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5354 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 10:09:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 10:09:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zDG5-00005y-W2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:08:17 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zDFz-00005p-LM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:08:11 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.141]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030329100810.ERNP20683.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:08:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2f5db$2127e1e0$8dcdfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003b01c2f56d$ca65ba20$60d2fc3e@ian> <001301c2f570$85cf41d0$6b339fd4@dellboy> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:07:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73/136 GM XPED. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, tnx for first GI/GM but we only just made it! As you started your final you were wiped out by one colossal 'wavy line' of the full set which are still there as I write and making life very difficult. You've certainly got the weather for it. 73 de, Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29668 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 07:51:13 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 07:51:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23751 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Mar 2003 07:51:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 07:51:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zB6u-00081q-1d for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 07:50:40 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zB6m-00081g-MO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 07:50:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu04.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.116]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.x.x) with SMTP id NAA3e85501b719f for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:49:47 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:53:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.9 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Bill and Group. On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ashlock,William wrote: > > >IMHO ground loss itself and enviroment loss yelds opposite effects. > >Whan it is rain ground loss became less while enviroment loss (by trees > >mainly) became more. Thus current improved when trees but not ground > >dries... Is it much trees arround Your antenna, Bill? > > Very solidly populated with trees at this location but I have reports from > others that experience increased loss with increased ground moisture having > no trees. This demands further investigation! Besides it is worth if it is loop or Marconi antenna. For loop seems dry soil should be good. For the Marconi dry soil should be bad. And for both antennas it should be good if trees are dry. What I have wrote in previous letter is for marconi. But any way all of this is speculations only. It requres comprehensive experimental investigation realy. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8604 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 07:29:26 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 07:29:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16367 invoked by uid 10001); 29 Mar 2003 07:29:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 07:29:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18zAfH-0007th-SB for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 07:22:07 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.83] (helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18zAfD-0007tY-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 07:22:03 +0000 Received: from fwd11.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18zAfC-0004sa-00; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:22:02 +0100 Received: from 192.168.6.2 (0607144537-0001@[217.225.195.23]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18zAey-0OzFXkC; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:21:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "bernd grupe" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0017 Date: 29 Mar 2003 07:49 GMT Message-ID: <18zAey-0OzFXkC@fwd11.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0607144537-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false use google-language tools! 73 bernd, df8zr "G.E. Tucker" schrieb: > Translation of the French below by W5VU: > Hello, I've just discovered that there exists a French language discussion group for the 137 kHz band. It's on Yahoo France; the group is 137khz-fr . 73 de Daniel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jay Rusgrove > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:44 PM > Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES > > > Sorry we don't speak French. > f1tay wrote: > > Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11776 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 23:44:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 23:44:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 15128 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 23:44:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 23:44:31 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z3Vj-0006ay-13 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:43:47 +0000 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18z3Ve-0006ap-9l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:43:42 +0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@edwards.boc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1048895016!258 Received: (qmail 10388 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 23:43:36 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-5.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 23:43:36 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HKNN335T; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:48:16 -0000 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:44:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:44:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: RE: LF: RE: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alex, On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ashlock,William wrote: >> What kind of soil do you have? Also, what type of ground screen do you have >> under the antenna? The Lowfer guys in this area (eastern US) experience the >> opposite effect. In other words, as the ground dries out we see improved >> antenna current. Soil is fairly sandy and I'm thinking this is the reason. >IMHO ground loss itself and enviroment loss yelds opposite effects. >Whan it is rain ground loss became less while enviroment loss (by trees >mainly) became more. Thus current improved when trees but not ground >dries... Is it much trees arround Your antenna, Bill? Very solidly populated with trees at this location but I have reports from others that experience increased loss with increased ground moisture having no trees. This demands further investigation! Thanks. Bill _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Im seeing a strong recovery (or somethings happening) starting at around 2150Z - signals some 20-25dB stronger than yesterday, the strongest peal at 2230Z...and its only 1300 local here - much stronger signals during my daylight.v. night on this path at the moment Laurence KL1X, bright sun 0C. www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16911 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 22:36:11 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 22:36:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26141 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 22:36:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 22:36:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z2RN-0006IV-IJ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false In a message dated 3/28/03 8:07:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, advancedreceiver@snet.net writes: >> Nada. >> So, we do speak Spanish? From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19238 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 21:46:30 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:46:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22103 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 21:46:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:46:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z1fQ-00064E-ML for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:45:40 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18z1fI-000645-Nb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:45:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu04.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.116]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.x.x) with SMTP id DAA3e84c15525f4 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:40:37 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:44:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.4 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Bill and Group. On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ashlock,William wrote: > What kind of soil do you have? Also, what type of ground screen do you have > under the antenna? The Lowfer guys in this area (eastern US) experience the > opposite effect. In other words, as the ground dries out we see improved > antenna current. Soil is fairly sandy and I'm thinking this is the reason. IMHO ground loss itself and enviroment loss yelds opposite effects. Whan it is rain ground loss became less while enviroment loss (by trees mainly) became more. Thus current improved when trees but not ground dries... Is it much trees arround Your antenna, Bill? 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1090 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 21:28:24 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:28:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9279 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 21:28:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:28:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z1L9-0005w3-CC for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:24:43 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18z1L4-0005vu-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:24:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 10688 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 21:24:07 -0000 Received: from 107.nas08.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (HELO dellboy) (212.159.51.107) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:24:07 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c2f570$85cf41d0$6b339fd4@dellboy> From: "Dave Mobile" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003b01c2f56d$ca65ba20$60d2fc3e@ian> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:25:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73/136 GM XPED. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ian and all. I should be on around 71.9 tomorrow (Saturday) morning around 0830 trying to work Peter and Jim on CW. If you hear me, try calling. Our aerial currents sound about the same at 1.5A! 73 Dave GM3YXM IO75WC > Hi all, > > Firstly, for YXM. FB on the G-GM first (and Mike the 'eternal second'). I'm > ready when you are Dave, if you want to pick a time tomorrow AM? > Will check mailbox abt 0830, and my phone number 02892 665034 if direct > contact desirable. > Like with you, nice warm afternoon so I put the coil outside to 'air' and > found I could get about 60% more antenna current. Some light rain so in it > came again, but now that I have seen there are more 'dogBiscuits' available, > constuction has started on a suitable 'dog-box' , and with any luck the > setup (which was the original plan) will be completed before the weekend is > out. The increased ERP will make it worthwhile continuing with any T/A > tests, but with three XPDitions out and (my being just about knackered) I > shall not risk the TX by beaconing tonight. > > 73 de, > > Ian MI0AYZ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22940 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 21:09:21 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3426 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 21:09:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 21:09:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z12k-0005p5-Pg for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:05:42 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18z12b-0005ow-Eo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:05:33 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.210.96]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030328210532.YZAN11888.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:05:32 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c2f56d$ca65ba20$60d2fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:05:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73/136 GM XPED. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Firstly, for YXM. FB on the G-GM first (and Mike the 'eternal second'). I'm ready when you are Dave, if you want to pick a time tomorrow AM? Will check mailbox abt 0830, and my phone number 02892 665034 if direct contact desirable. Like with you, nice warm afternoon so I put the coil outside to 'air' and found I could get about 60% more antenna current. Some light rain so in it came again, but now that I have seen there are more 'dogBiscuits' available, constuction has started on a suitable 'dog-box' , and with any luck the setup (which was the original plan) will be completed before the weekend is out. The increased ERP will make it worthwhile continuing with any T/A tests, but with three XPDitions out and (my being just about knackered) I shall not risk the TX by beaconing tonight. 73 de, Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31377 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 20:45:25 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 20:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 27743 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 20:45:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 20:45:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18z0i0-0005hL-Bd for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:44:16 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.150] (helo=telesmtp3.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18z0hs-0005hC-BH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:44:08 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([212.170.168.3]) by telesmtp3.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HCH89J01.ZNC for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:44:07 +0100 Message-ID: <006201c2f56a$b2d90220$03a8aad4@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c2f4ae$979052a0$a2cdfc3e@ian> <18yhP9-0bnOmuC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:43:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 26th Mar signs on 137.77kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Uwe and all: I think it´s the trace from Ian , MI0AYZ 73 de José, EA1PX ----- Original Message ----- From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:07 AM Subject: LF: 26th Mar signs on 137.77kHz > SpeLab shot: > I read LDO, AQC es YXM; but who was the weak one btwn AQC and LDO? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26550 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 19:16:53 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 19:16:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1959 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 19:16:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 19:16:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yzHe-0005K7-EA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:12:58 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yzHZ-0005Jy-LW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:12:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 16573 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 19:12:22 -0000 Received: from 89.nas06.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (HELO dellboy) (212.159.53.89) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 19:12:22 -0000 Message-ID: <003801c2f55e$21128cf0$18359fd4@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" References: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:12:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Bill The ground is peat and rocks.. The only earth system is radials and wire fences. Pointless banging stakes into this! 73 Dave GM3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashlock,William" To: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: LF: RE: Good News and bad news from GM > Hi Dave, > > >Bad: No rain for a couple of weeks means the ground is dry and the current > >is poor, <3A on 136 and 1.5A on 72k. > >Bad: Rugby appears to be back on. > > What kind of soil do you have? Also, what type of ground screen do you have > under the antenna? The Lowfer guys in this area (eastern US) experience the > opposite effect. In other words, as the ground dries out we see improved > antenna current. Soil is fairly sandy and I'm thinking this is the reason. > > Bill A > > PS: There's still some snow in my back yard in spite of 70F temperatures - > more snow in forecast! > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5241 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 17:27:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 17:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 27905 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 17:27:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 17:27:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yxcT-0004sH-IJ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:26:21 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yxcK-0004s8-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:26:12 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030328172611.BPFX9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:26:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003101c2f54f$4a51ede0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:27:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: GM3YXM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just had a 73kHz QRSS3 QSO with Dave, exchanging Os. Noise this end too bad for audible QSO. Country No 5 two-way on the band. I have about 1A into the antenna from 150W RF. Will be QRV on 73kHz for the next few days if anyone wants a sked or signal to listen to. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27550 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 17:20:57 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 17:20:57 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 27543 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 17:20:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 17:20:49 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yxW2-0004p0-Qc for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:19:42 +0000 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yxVx-0004or-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:19:37 +0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@edwards.boc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1048871970!46964 Received: (qmail 11634 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 17:19:30 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-20.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 17:19:30 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:20:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HKNN3GY1; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:24:11 -0000 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:20:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:20:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, >Bad: No rain for a couple of weeks means the ground is dry and the current >is poor, <3A on 136 and 1.5A on 72k. >Bad: Rugby appears to be back on. What kind of soil do you have? Also, what type of ground screen do you have under the antenna? The Lowfer guys in this area (eastern US) experience the opposite effect. In other words, as the ground dries out we see improved antenna current. Soil is fairly sandy and I'm thinking this is the reason. Bill A PS: There's still some snow in my back yard in spite of 70F temperatures - more snow in forecast! _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18215 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 16:52:11 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 16:52:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 21242 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 16:52:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 16:52:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yx4k-0004a0-C9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:51:30 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yx4c-0004Yh-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:51:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 18934 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 16:50:47 -0000 Received: from 24.nas06.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (HELO dellboy) (212.159.53.24) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 16:50:47 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c2f54a$5c852590$18359fd4@dellboy> From: "Mobile" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030328151301.00b1fc60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:52:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Expeditions this weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Rugby has gone QRT again so it should be OK. Just worked G3AQC in CW!! First G/GM on 73k 73 Dave GM3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: LF: Expeditions this weekend > Dear LF Group, > > I will be heading down to Cornwall on Sunday to join G3GRO at Porthcurno - > hopefully by Monday we will be QRV on 136 and 73 kHz bands - hope to see > you there! > > Also will be looking out for GM3YXM this evening, when I get home - > hopefully by about 1830. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18794 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 16:26:29 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 16:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 2315 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 16:26:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 16:26:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ywfJ-0004NG-SI for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:25:13 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-in.online.no) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ywfD-0004N1-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:25:08 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.190] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-209.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.201]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:24:36 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05BAB@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Thread-Index: AcL1Pnf0frtSrVI7RlK2bTsu4Zk4eAAB6t8g From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2003 16:24:36.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[85D3C7C0:01C2F546] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
couldn't you just change the subject to English, and everybody is happy?
 
73
Jan-Martin

http://home.online.no/~la8ak/


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J M Nøding, Datakvalitet, TTS, Kristiansand
Telefon 0047-380-52660, 9077-7126 (QTH: 0047-380-87178)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Rollema [mailto:d.w.rollema@freeler.nl]
Sent: 28. mars 2003 16:19
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES

Perhaps Ray used the "Royal We".

73, Dick, PA0SE
Sorry  we don't speak French.

Hello Ray,

shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ?

A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other languages, such as French ...

73, Rik  ON7YD



f1tay wrote:
Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8295 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 15:34:00 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10353 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 15:34:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:34:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yvrP-00040B-9U for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:33:39 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yvrK-000401-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:33:34 +0000 Received: from modem-150.massachusetts.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.72.150] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yvrJ-00045A-BT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:33:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2f53f$73f6e3e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. Good news and bad news from GM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, I will be monitoring 71.850 to 950 for the next couple of hours. Best of luck. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 869 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 15:32:29 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:32:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15851 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 15:32:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:32:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yvpj-0003ym-UO for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:55 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yvpe-0003yd-TW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:51 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18yvpP-00029K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:35 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18yvpN-0000hu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:33 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030328151301.00b1fc60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:31:27 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Expeditions this weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, I will be heading down to Cornwall on Sunday to join G3GRO at Porthcurno - hopefully by Monday we will be QRV on 136 and 73 kHz bands - hope to see you there! Also will be looking out for GM3YXM this evening, when I get home - hopefully by about 1830. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6389 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 15:21:05 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:21:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27613 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 15:21:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 15:21:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yveW-0003sZ-F0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:20:20 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.54] (helo=cmailENV2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yveN-0003sQ-Op for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:20:11 +0000 Received: from [62.21.138.39] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18yveL-0007CI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:20:10 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030328161805.026c0d00@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:19:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327100709.00b5d478@u0019445.kuleuven.be> References: <3E80DBB1.C719CE6@snet.net> <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.4 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP, REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Perhaps Ray used the "Royal We".

73, Dick, PA0SE



Sorry  we don't speak French.

Hello Ray,

shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ?

A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other languages, such as French ...

73, Rik  ON7YD



f1tay wrote:
Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30146 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 14:57:14 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 14:57:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16124 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 14:57:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 14:57:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yvHS-0003fl-MS for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:56:30 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.53] (helo=cmailENV1.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yvHJ-0003fc-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:56:21 +0000 Received: from [62.21.132.112] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18yvHG-0001p7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:56:19 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030328150914.02941be0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:10:18 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327100709.00b5d478@u0019445.kuleuven.be> References: <3E80DBB1.C719CE6@snet.net> <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.4 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TO, MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Perhaps he used the "Royal We"

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 10:20 27-3-03 +0100, you wrote:

Sorry  we don't speak French.

Hello Ray,

shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ?

A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other languages, such as French ...

73, Rik  ON7YD



f1tay wrote:
Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30632 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 28147 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 14:44:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 14:44:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yv5J-0003Xf-Of for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:43:57 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.223] (helo=marstons.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yv5D-0003XP-Tw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:43:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 27370 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 14:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dellboy) (212.159.54.98) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 14:43:20 -0000 Message-ID: <003301c2f538$8d1f2f00$62369fd4@dellboy> From: "Mobile" To: "LF Group" Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:43:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Good News and bad news from GM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. Good: A beautiful afternoon in GM meant I was able to get the aerial up in shirt-sleeves. Good: It's all tuned up on 136 and 73. Good: I can see my signal on the grabber. Bad: No rain for a couple of weeks means the ground is dry and the current is poor, <3A on 136 and 1.5A on 72k. Bad: Rugby appears to be back on. Will be available for tests, skeds from now on. E-mail will be checked every hour or so (no broadband here!) or there's the phone.: 07976 833 839 I am now going out to put up an HF aerial in the sunshine! Cheers from IO75WC Dave, trading as :GM3YXM NOT /P! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13839 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 13:07:15 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 13:07:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28356 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 13:07:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 13:07:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ytYz-00034P-G9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:06:29 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ytYr-00034G-E3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:06:21 +0000 Received: from snet.net (204.60.45.242.snet.net [204.60.45.242] (may be forged)) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2SD6IQV009236 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:06:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E844928.3A2458B1@snet.net> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:07:52 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c2f526$d607e840$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: Re: TA 28 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nada. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Nil. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3649 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 12:53:18 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 12:53:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13584 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 12:53:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 12:53:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ytLI-0002w8-UO for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:52:20 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.38] (helo=remt28.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ytL6-0002vs-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:52:08 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by remt28.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9b) with SMTP id 1649786 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c2f526$d607e840$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 28 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nil. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18350 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 11:51:41 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 11:51:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28625 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 11:51:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 11:51:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ysLt-0002be-L2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:48:53 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ysLl-0002b4-Vn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:48:46 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2SBmc8M023743 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:18:39 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2SBmcdc002260 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:18:38 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2SBmcFo005767; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:18:38 -0330 (NST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:18:37 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 28 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing at all. Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20345 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 10:25:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 10:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18275 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 10:25:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 10:25:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yr2C-000292-Ve for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:24:28 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yr27-00028t-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:24:23 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18yr0w-0005D0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:23:10 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18yr0t-0004oK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:23:08 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030328101839.00b1a758@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:23:02 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <18ygpT-1NrvtYC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327110712.00a9e3d8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Unusual QRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, At 00:30 28/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: > > >Not the usual distinct static crashes, but rather a continous static > > >crackling reminiscent of old 78-rpm shellack records. Seems to have disappeared this morning at my QTH - Loran is clattering away again... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3517 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 09:52:57 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:52:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5772 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 09:52:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:52:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yqR3-0001nA-Gy for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:46:05 +0000 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yqQt-0001ms-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:55 +0000 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18yqQt-0000Og-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:55 +0000 Received: from a7j7r2 (bts-0039.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.39]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4.sec) with SMTP id h2S9jH8Z030956 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:54 GMT Message-ID: <00a901c2f50e$baa1ac20$2730f7c2@a7j7r2> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:39:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Languages other than English Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I observe that the working language of this news reflector is a set of generally mutually intelligible forms of English (American, British, Australian or whatever). I also see that from time to time the need arises to post in other languages. May I suggest that in this latter case the author provides (where practicable) at least a summary or indication of the contents of the message in English? Regards, John Rabson G3PAI Editor Cave Radio and Electronics Journal From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1442 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 09:52:20 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:52:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4873 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 09:52:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:52:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yqPq-0001mN-4o for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:44:50 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.104] (helo=imo-r08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yqPj-0001mE-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:44:44 +0000 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.b7.302a7fb9 (4468) for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:44:05 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10512 Subject: LF: Redesigned G3YXM pre-amp. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello group.

Dave's original 136kHz pre-amp design had to be discontinued some time ago when the 1mH coils were made obsolete by the manufacturers.

After some considerable time, a suitable replacement has been found and a new filter has been designed around them.

I've also had some new PCBs made and the finished preamp, together with some performance figures can be seen at:

www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk/preamp.htm

Completed preamps are available from me, (details on the "kits" page) but the full circuit is given on the site for anyone who wants to duplicate the pre-amp or build something similar.

73

David  G0MRF    

p.s.  Hope to work some of you from GM this Sunday to Tuesday From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1637 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 09:49:48 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:49:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 29993 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 09:49:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 09:49:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yqR1-0001n1-0T for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:46:03 +0000 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yqQs-0001mo-JO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:54 +0000 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18yqQr-0000OP-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:53 +0000 Received: from a7j7r2 (bts-0039.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.39]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4.sec) with SMTP id h2S9jH8X030956 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:45:53 GMT Message-ID: <00a801c2f50e$b9d841a0$2730f7c2@a7j7r2> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:32:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Daniel, Merci pour l'info. [Thank you for the information] 73 de John G3PAI (REF 15955) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20043 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 04:40:55 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 04:40:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 18899 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Mar 2003 04:40:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 04:40:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yleb-0000s5-4c for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:39:45 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.140] (helo=technetium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yleW-0000rw-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:39:40 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by zinc with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18yAuv-0007Mn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:26:09 +0000 Message-ID: <004101c2f39b$7106b2a0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:27:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 26 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.4 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Looking at Steve and Dex's DFF39 shots it seems the "something" happened at 0300, before which time things were climbing nicely.. Pity I didn't fire up until 03.30! I don't know if Brian was on but myself Ian and Mike were. Dave G3YXM. > > It seems KL1X is right... there's still something wrong with > the ionosphere. Aside from the LORAN lines, only 2 dahs > came through on 137.7733 kHz at ~0400Z this morning. > > Is Brian DRP still QRV? > > Hoping for better condx soon... > Joe VO1NA > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8820 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 00:09:11 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:09:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15352 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 00:09:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:09:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yhPk-0008VQ-F2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:08:08 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.85] (helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yhPc-0008VH-5z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:08:00 +0000 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18yhPa-0001b5-00; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:07:58 +0100 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.224.49.155]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18yhP9-0bnOmuC; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:07:31 +0100 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c2f4ae$979052a0$a2cdfc3e@ian> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: <18yhP9-0bnOmuC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: 26th Mar signs on 137.77kHz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060605080303020505050008" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.8 required=5.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: 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23:31:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ygpr-0008L6-R0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:31:03 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.80] (helo=mailout01.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ygpf-0008Kx-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:30:51 +0000 Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18ygpe-0006i8-05; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:30:50 +0100 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.224.50.35]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18ygpT-1NrvtYC; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:30:39 +0100 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327110712.00a9e3d8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:30:39 +0100 Message-ID: <18ygpT-1NrvtYC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Unusual QRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.0 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false James Moritz schrieb: > Dear Markus, LF Group > > At 16:47 26/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >tonight the band seems to be plagued by a high level of background QRN. > >Not the usual distinct static crashes, but rather a continous static > >crackling reminiscent of old 78-rpm shellack records. This type of noise > >has been present during some nights, but not often. Its southerly angle of > >arrival went along well with the usual explanation of very distant > >lightning activity. > > I have noticed similar noise on the band here also during the past few days > - the background band noise seems to be ~10dB over the usual levels, > swamping the Loran chatter that normally sets the noise floor, but can > "switch" on and off over a period of a few minutes. It seems to occur > during both the day and night time. I have been trying to record > spectrograms of it; unfortunately, some local mains noise sources also > produce a similar effect on the spectrogram, so it is difficult to tell > which is local and which is distant, unless you are actually listening to > the RX audio. > > I am slightly relieved it appears to be a distant natural phenomenon, > rather than yet another local noise source - hopefully it is not permanent! > Can anyone else hear it too? > > Cheers, Jim Moritz, > 73 de M0BMU > > Hi Jim, Claudio and Markus es Group, yes, here in jo43sv the same noise - I compared it to Markus`s .wav file - and the switch off time was abt 1730 UT if I remember right. a surprising situation: no LORAN-C lines to be heard or seen. the noise of frequency hopping spread spectrum emissions Claudio mentioned is different from the noise under discussion; the audible pitch is somewhat higher; but maybe on LF they tune the channel switching time down. usually on SW those emissions are some minutes on the air (protection against direction finding); not for several hours like the noise we did observe on LF. regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23162 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 22:23:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 22:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6728 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 22:23:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 22:23:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yfgE-000838-NH for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:17:02 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yfgA-00082z-1y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:16:58 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.162]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030327221657.ZXZE1184.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:16:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c2f4ae$979052a0$a2cdfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:16:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A 28 Mar. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The MI0AYZ minibeacon will set out again on 137.7735 but starting at 0300 and ceasing at 0700 this time. Looking at the feeble trace on Jose's capture the other morning it really is a "verloeren hoope", but hope springs eternal and all that jazz. With reference to 'strange QRN', I had been thinking that the last couple of days had been unusually quiet after the blood and thunder on Tuesday night, but in the light of todays postings maybe I should go back and check that the RX is (a) connected to an antenna and (b) switched on! 73, Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13959 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 22:10:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 22:10:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21294 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 22:10:12 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 22:10:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yfSm-0007xd-PH for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:03:08 +0000 Received: from [195.130.225.154] (helo=mail.tiscali.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yfSh-0007xU-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:03:04 +0000 Received: from orion.pii.net (62.10.4.180) by mail.tiscali.it (6.5.032) id 3E661F2E00CA2A2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:02:17 +0100 Received: (from clapo@localhost) by orion.pii.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00705 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:05:52 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327110712.00a9e3d8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:05:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Claudio Pozzi" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Unusual QRN X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-19.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false HI all. On 27-Mar-03 James Moritz wrote: > Dear Markus, LF Group > > At 16:47 26/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>tonight the band seems to be plagued by a high level of background QRN. >>Not the usual distinct static crashes, but rather a continous static >>crackling reminiscent of old 78-rpm shellack records. This type of noise >>has been present during some nights, but not often. Its southerly angle of >>arrival went along well with the usual explanation of very distant >>lightning activity. > > I have noticed similar noise on the band here also during the past few days > - the background band noise seems to be ~10dB over the usual levels, > swamping the Loran chatter that normally sets the noise floor, but can > "switch" on and off over a period of a few minutes. It seems to occur > during both the day and night time. What about a frequency hopping spread spectrum (military) emission? 73 de Claudio, ik2pii ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudio Pozzi http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii happy Linux user E-Mail: Claudio Pozzi Date: 27-Mar-03 Time: 23:01:55 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17069 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 18:17:08 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 18:17:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 8703 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 18:17:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 18:17:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18ybup-0007FW-5Y for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:15:51 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18ybuh-0007FN-Bi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:15:43 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.117]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030327181542.UYGZ1184.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:15:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2f48c$ce0c3320$75e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:14:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: YI2DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
If everything works out I might be able to re-activate my old call next winter on 136 khz LF. Last used in 1967 from A16H.WEST. QTH about 60 miles west of Baghdad. At that time I was a Technical Advisor/Air electronics to the Iraqi Air Force.
73 de  Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16335 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 15:23:54 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 15:23:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 22534 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 15:23:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 15:23:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yZDt-0006Rf-Ln for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:23:21 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yZDl-0006RT-Ve for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:23:14 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030327152313.IMSH25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:23:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c2f475$05c458a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> <3E82234A.1080709@usa.net> <001c01c2f417$ffdf3ac0$687a37c0@w2ksn> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:24:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > If it is local, try flipping the main switch to your house to see > if your own gear is the culprit. > 73, > Stewart This is good advice. I once went to a lot of trouble to take a receiver and DF antenna out into the street to find which of my neighbours was causing me bad pulse interference on 160m. After half an hour, I found a faulty central heating controller in my own airing cupboard just above the shack! Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27099 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 15:09:24 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 15:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 8059 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 15:09:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 15:09:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yYzY-0006JH-PW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:08:32 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yYzT-0006J4-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:08:27 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 15:07:53 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.217.175.81] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 194HcAPHz0116M31; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:07:52 GMT Message-ID: <3E831377.2030500@usa.net> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:06:31 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> <3E82234A.1080709@usa.net> <001c01c2f417$ffdf3ac0$687a37c0@w2ksn> Subject: LF: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.4 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Stewart and Matti, thanks again for your answers. Thanks also to Alan Melia who, among other info, suggested me to browse the Web site of Renato, http://www.vlf.it who has a list of the stations on that part of the spectrum. I found the origin of those straight lines. The culprit is the UPS of my PC. Apparently, to guarantee the exactness of the generated 50 Hz in absence of the mains, it has a quartz oscillator, from which also the switching frequency is derived. Upon suggestion of Claudio IK2PII, I listened to the "cloudy" signal using a W&G Selektiver Pegelmesser, and, among pseudo-white noise, it is possible to hear a faint RTTY-sounding signal. The 15625 peak, as suggested by Stewart, is there within just a small fraction of an Hertz. When the TV upstairs in my house is on, the peak is very pronounced. If I switch off my TV, I still see a reduced peak, which with most probability is coming from the house of the neighbours (50 meters from mine). I can even watch when they change channel, from the slight discontinuity in that signal... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24761 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 13:59:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:59:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 11151 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 13:59:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:59:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yXtM-0005vS-8S for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:58:04 +0000 Received: from [206.46.170.172] (helo=pop015.verizon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yXtG-0005vE-Pg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:57:58 +0000 Received: from verizon.net ([141.156.161.156]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030327135724.CQPN24156.pop015.verizon.net@verizon.net>; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:57:24 -0600 Message-ID: <3E83036F.8010603@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:58:07 -0500 From: "Andre Kesteloot" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E74A1D4.8050708@verizon.net> <009101c2ec5b$4a92a9e0$b932f7c2@a7j7r2> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop015.verizon.net from [141.156.161.156] at Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:57:24 -0600 Subject: Re: LF: Re: The myth of interference ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false John Rabson wrote: >The author seems to be confusing "interference" in the sense a physicist >would use the term (that is, interaction between photons or electromagnetic >waves in a fundamental sense) and the sense in which a radio engineer would >use it (disturbance of one radio transmission system by another). > >If I have understood him correctly, he seems also to be suggesting that >there is an infinite amount of transmission bandwidth available. > Exactly, and based on the premises of this article, our political leaders could now resell the _same_ RF bandwidth to multiple users :-) 73 André N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23886 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 13:14:58 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:14:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5241 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 13:14:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:14:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yXCn-0005db-P3 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:14:05 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yXCZ-0005dS-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:13:51 +0000 Received: from snet.net (222.220.252.64.snet.net [64.252.220.222]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2RDDmQV017591 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:13:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E82F966.EBA8C314@snet.net> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:15:18 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E82EDA6.A2A04CC2@snet.net> Subject: Re: [Fwd: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES] Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.4 required=5.0tests=FWD_MSG,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Rik

Thanks for setting me straight on that.

Actually, that posting got mixed in with e mails for the company and got the usual response before noting that it was an rsgb reflector posting. I didn't intend to speak for anyone else.

>Sorry  we don't speak French.

Hello Ray,

shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ?


Yes, that would be better, but, let me go one step further...
 

"Sorry, I won't speak French!"  ;~)

Jay Rusgrove, W1VD

 

A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of
them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other
languages, such as French ...

73, Rik  ON7YD

>f1tay wrote:
>>Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion
>>francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe
>>137khz-fr.73 de Daniel

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6286 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 15569 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 13:00:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 13:00:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yWx7-0005TT-Pd for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:57:53 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.31] (helo=remt21.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yWx2-0005TB-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:57:49 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by remt21.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9b) with SMTP id 3983068 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:57:17 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c2f460$8e9eba40$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:58:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 27 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I did catch a couple of "G3 somethings" just a hair above my local Loran line on 137774.03 this morning from 0330 to about 0500. I suppose it was either Laurie or Peter, but the signals faded on both ID's. No other signals were seen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25659 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 12:54:52 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:54:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13026 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 12:54:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:54:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yWnj-0005OT-VA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:48:11 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.45] (helo=thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yWnc-0005OG-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:48:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ECF137798 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632A81377A4 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47077AEA47 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:47:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327134321.02d8fdd8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:48:21 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <003801c2f2f3$e0614140$1b00a8c0@dellboy> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Comparison of QRSS speed performance. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Dave and Alan, Really impressing how little power is needed to travel 220km at 136kHz. The 360mW needed for the CW copy should be no more than about 1mW ERP I guess, QRSS60 does the job with no more than 2uW ERP. 73, Rik ON7YD At 17:27 25/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Dear all. > >I did some tests today with Alan G3NYK at about 220km distance, to compare >the performance of different QRSS speeds under real band conditions. How >much better is QRSS60 than QRSS10 or QRSS3... or CW? >Find out our findings at http://www.wireless.org.uk/signoise.htm > >73 >Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1819 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 12:43:47 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:43:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14778 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 12:43:47 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:43:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yWiv-0005Jh-AF for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:43:13 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.102] (helo=imo-r06.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yWil-0005JR-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:43:04 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1eb.52d4cdd (18707) for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:42:30 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1eb.52d4cdd.2bb44bb5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:42:29 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: DCF42/49 IM reduced Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Group

>> As the IMP also contains a broadband noise component from DCF42's modulation,
>> LowFers in the Frankfurt region will hopefully benefit from its reduction as well.

bah - Pustekuchen...  IMPs off at 12:11, back to the old level since 12:13 :-(

Markus
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5991 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 12:24:18 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:24:18 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18111 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 12:24:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 12:24:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yWOm-0005BQ-ID for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:22:24 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.34] (helo=imo-d02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yWOh-0005BH-C3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:22:19 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.12a.266f1208 (3850) for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.266f1208.2bb446d7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:21:43 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: LF: DCF42/49 IM reduced Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0tests=HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi group,

this morning I logged a significant reduction in the DCF42/DCF49 intermodulation products at 135.360 (with FSK bursts around 136.040) and 136.5475 kHz. Supported by similar observations in 2001 and 2002,  this is apparently caused by a seasonal antenna retuning at the Mainflingen site.

For two minutes around 7:22 UT, at least one TX was switched off and the IMPs completely disappeared, coming back at a lower level. Within the next 40 minutes, 136.547 showed some fiddling and finally ended up at its "summer level", 9dB below the previous value.

         135.36/136.04kHz     136.5475 kHz
  UT    dBµV/m  EMRP      dBµV/m EMRP
<7:20    ~30     600mW      +1.5    0.8mW
  7:23      25                        -3  
>8:14      25     180mW       -7.5    0.1mW

As the IMP also contains a broadband noise component from DCF42's modulation, LowFers in the Frankfurt region will hopefully benefit from its reduction as well.

There are four other unexplained lines which seem to originate from the same area:
137580.2 Hz (continuous),
137161.8 Hz (short FSK bursts every 1.2s),
136680.5 Hz (FSK every ~34s, similar but not related to DCF49 or DCF39 telegrams),
136201.2 Hz (cont.),
all around -1dBµV/m here. None of these was affected by the maintenance.

73 es best wishes
Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11725 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 11:58:40 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 11:58:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22195 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 11:58:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 11:58:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yW0t-0004zT-Eo for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:57:43 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yW0o-0004zK-D7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:57:38 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2RBvV8M031525 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:27:32 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2RBvVdc019685 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:27:31 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2RBvUGY026537; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:27:30 -0330 (NST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:27:30 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "LF-Group" In-reply-to: <000001c2f448$5ab18040$6507a8c0@Main> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 27 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan noted that conditions seem to be improving again. This appears to be the case here. G3AQC and LDO were copied this morning with good signals around 0400-0700Z. 73 to all Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11617 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 11:45:23 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 11:45:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 8901 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 11:45:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 11:45:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yVnk-0004rB-7Q for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:44:08 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yVnf-0004qz-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:44:03 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18yVmb-00062j-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:42:57 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18yVmZ-0001FI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:42:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327110712.00a9e3d8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:42:54 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <1e4.55571f4.2bb379d5@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Unusual QRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Markus, LF Group At 16:47 26/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: >tonight the band seems to be plagued by a high level of background QRN. >Not the usual distinct static crashes, but rather a continous static >crackling reminiscent of old 78-rpm shellack records. This type of noise >has been present during some nights, but not often. Its southerly angle of >arrival went along well with the usual explanation of very distant >lightning activity. I have noticed similar noise on the band here also during the past few days - the background band noise seems to be ~10dB over the usual levels, swamping the Loran chatter that normally sets the noise floor, but can "switch" on and off over a period of a few minutes. It seems to occur during both the day and night time. I have been trying to record spectrograms of it; unfortunately, some local mains noise sources also produce a similar effect on the spectrogram, so it is difficult to tell which is local and which is distant, unless you are actually listening to the RX audio. I am slightly relieved it appears to be a distant natural phenomenon, rather than yet another local noise source - hopefully it is not permanent! Can anyone else hear it too? Cheers, Jim Moritz, 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7648 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 10:51:46 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 10:51:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3687 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 10:51:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 10:51:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yUy8-0004Ym-0T for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:50:48 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.227] (helo=warrior.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yUy3-0004Ya-66 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:50:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 8490 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 10:50:13 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 10:50:13 -0000 Message-ID: <006c01c2f44e$8059f240$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> <5.1.0.14.0.20030327100709.00b5d478@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:49:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Rik, Ray, Daniel and Group, We can ALL read a variety of languages thanks to Google's translation page - check out: http://www.google.com/language_tools I cut and pasted Daniel's post into Google and it came up with: "Hello, I have just discovered that there is a French-speaking newsgroup on the tape 137 kHz.C' is on yahoo France it is the 137khz-fr.73 group of Daniel" Which is fairly understandable. No one complains about the German posts which appear from time to time - although it is nice when someone offers a translation (my German is not as good as my French !) 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES >Sorry we don't speak French. Hello Ray, shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ? A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other languages, such as French ... 73, Rik ON7YD >f1tay wrote: >>Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion >>francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe >>137khz-fr.73 de Daniel From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25499 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 10:06:55 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 10:06:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26363 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 10:06:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 10:06:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yUGI-0004HB-GR for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:05:30 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yUGD-0004H2-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:05:25 +0000 Received: from host213-122-76-93.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.76.93] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #24) id 18yUGC-00018P-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:05:24 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2f448$5ab18040$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:53:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, as judged by Steve's plots of DCF39 conditions are still slowly improving. Last nights plot shows good periods at medium levels, with some deep troughs. The peak levels are 15dB higher than the levels a couple of weeks back, but are still nearly 10dB short of the early January highs. The geomagnetic storm just after mid-night (Kp=5) was the one predicted by NOAA and Spaceweather and due to a "geoeffective" coronal hole. The problem for Lawrence is that the effect of this would be almost instantaneous on polar paths whereas it will take another two to three days to depress the lower latitude paths (DCF39 > W3EEE). The end effect at lower latitudes should be to drag out the recovery period. We must remember that there was a period of nearly a month of low Kp's before the January "highs". From memory I think the previous geomag storm was around the 28th Nov. Unfortunately todays storm will start to depress night-time paths again in time for the weekend GM "expeditions". Hopefully it will be accompanied by better day-time propagation as a slight consolation. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27007 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 09:23:15 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 09:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20154 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 09:23:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 09:23:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yTZ0-0003vS-Dq for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:20:46 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yTYq-0003vH-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:20:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3AE4B669 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:20:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942334B617 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:20:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F804C0D0 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:20:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030327100709.00b5d478@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:20:53 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <3E80DBB1.C719CE6@snet.net> References: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Sorry we don't speak French. Hello Ray, shouldn't that be "Sorry I don't speak French" ? A large number of "we" is not native English and I am sure that a lot of them (and maybe also of the native English) do speak and read other languages, such as French ... 73, Rik ON7YD >f1tay wrote: >>Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion >>francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe >>137khz-fr.73 de Daniel From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3738 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 09:23:06 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 09:23:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20057 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 09:23:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 09:23:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yTaC-0003wA-4F for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:22:00 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.171] (helo=cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yTa1-0003vt-QM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:21:49 +0000 Received: from modem-88.damrod.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.152.88] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yTa0-0005PQ-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:21:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2f442$598b1060$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:21:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. Eu Tpol conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurence writes:- "So Im thinking that Alaska/Eu is only going to be a winter thing-" I am reluctantly coming to the same conclusion. I have transmitted on 137.774 every night since 6/03 and was hopeful that a recent run of low Kp would enable the ionosphere to recover and hopefully enhance,however last night the index shot up to 4 effectively ruining any improvement there may have been. By the time things recover it will certainly be too light at both ends of the path. So I guess we must let Laurence go to chase more likely DX. Thanks for all the looking and see you next winter. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8908 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 07:32:52 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 07:32:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3684 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 07:32:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 07:32:52 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yRrz-0003SW-0Q for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:32:15 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yRru-0003SN-3L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:32:10 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2R7W8bR002594 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:32:09 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:32:06 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2R7W5B09401 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:32:05 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:32:03 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/27/2003 01:32:06 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Eu Tpol conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false For those that dream too much of waterfalls and rain and make the pilgrimage early to the shack "and the other place" - its been a very poor night as far as TPol is concerned. Now - its getting lighter by some 6 mins per day and the tweeting of the birds is waking me up before 6am. So Im thinking that Alaska/Eu is only going to be a winter thing (please prove me wrong) and I should be making more attempts at ZL and the lower 48 states. After all its 5500Kms or so to New York from here - Laurence KL1X wishing it was Jan 2-3-4-5-6, then perhaps not. www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3815 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 06:54:00 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 06:54:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9292 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 06:53:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 06:53:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yRGA-0003Ie-Rm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:53:10 +0000 Received: from [193.229.0.51] (helo=fep07-app.kolumbus.fi) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yRFw-0003IV-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:52:56 +0000 Received: from merocomp ([62.248.148.104]) by fep07-app.kolumbus.fi with SMTP id <20030327065253.NFMV24612.fep07-app.kolumbus.fi@merocomp> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01c2f42d$8f1ddd80$1c076c0a@arenanet.fi> From: "Matti Niemela" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> <3E82234A.1080709@usa.net> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:53:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030307030805020400070301" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.2 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030307030805020400070301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Alberto,
 
Station you see on 18.3 KHz might be Le Blanc (Rosnay).
All these VLF stations have highly stabilized frequencies, but MSK-modulation complicates their use as standards in radio amateur use.
You can see the real shift frequencies by multiplying their signal by itself  (shift will also doubled). Their shift is exactly only a half of baud rate as is the general nature of MSK which some call by name FFSK.
 
73 Matti OH2ZT
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:01 AM
Subject: LF: Re: VLF signals

Matti and Stewart,

 ....

I have noticed another signal, may be Matti has an explanation
for this too :


TNX
73  Alberto  I2PHD


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mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 04:37:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17961 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 04:37:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 04:37:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yP1j-0002r4-T5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:30:07 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yP1b-0002qc-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:30:00 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by zinc with smtp (Exim 3.22 #24) id 18yHb2-0005ii-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:34:04 +0000 Message-ID: <00a101c2f3d7$36c16f40$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <003001c2f3cf$04698800$f1728351@j1r9b7> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:35:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF. Re: 73k portable activity from Cornwall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Derek and all. Good news that Jim will be with you, I'll probably be back home before you come on but we may work on Monday. I hope to be active from Friday evening on 136 and 73k. My contact number is 07976 833 839 and the QRA is IO75WC 29km West of Dumfries. RUGBY IS OFF AT PRESENT!! Let's hope it stays off for the weekend. I hope to leave "the Grabber" running on 72kHz in 3-sec Argo to aid with tuning up. It'll have to use the IC735 and Datong converter so it won't be very stable but I've put the Datong on top of the PC to keep it warm! It's at http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab from Friday morning. Cheers. Dave G3YXM. > Herewith further info re the planned LF expedition to Porthcurno, Cornwall > next weekend. > I am pleased to say that Jim Moritz M0BMU will also be taking part and we > hope to be QRV on both 73Khz and 136Khz from Monday evening 31st March > through to at least Tuesday night, 1st of April. Provisional QRG on 73Khz > for QRSS is 71.915Khz. We may also be able to do some cross-band work > > Location of the Museum is IO70EB, NGR SW384 227 > > Contact mobile phone number : 07742 676495 > Mesages can also be left at : 01736 810 153. > > > Vy 73, de Derek > Atter, G3GRO > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24995 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2003 04:29:28 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 04:29:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13077 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Mar 2003 04:29:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2003 04:29:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yOwp-0002pM-QQ for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:25:03 +0000 Received: from [165.254.4.18] (helo=mail.mcf.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yOwg-0002pB-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:24:54 +0000 Received: from w2ksn (192.55.122.104) by mail.mcf.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2) for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001c01c2f417$ffdf3ac0$687a37c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> <3E82234A.1080709@usa.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:19:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alberto, You are correct that switching supplies usually have R/C oscillators. However, after reaching a stable temperature, and with constant load, the drift could be quite small, perhaps tens of ppm, because the control supply is often well regulated, either from the main output, or by a linear regulator on the control chip. In a few cases, e.g. computer monitors, the power supply runs at a submultiple of the sweep frequency to reduce displayed noise, and so is effectively controlled by a crystal in the computer driving it. It's possible that the supply is locking to a multiple of the mains frequency. Are you sure that the sound card sampling rate is accurate, and that the software is reporting the frequency correctly? There is probably a big signal at 15625 Hz that you can use for a quick check. But in any case, your setup should make it very easy to see if the source is local. Just use a laptop, running on batteries. The rest of the system is passive! Rotate the loop for a null and note the bearing. Move the rig a hundred meters, perpendicular to the apparent station direction. See how much the null angle changes. If it's coming from far away, this is a quite interesting signal. If it is local, try flipping the main switch to your house to see if your own gear is the culprit. 73, Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: LF: Re: VLF signals > Matti and Stewart, > > thanks for your answers. Just one question Stewart. You say that : > > > In effect, the input bridge is a balanced mixer, > multiplying the 20870 Hz carrier by the distorted mains > current waveform. > > So the noise conducted to the mains is primarily > 20870 Hz odd multiples of the mains frequency. > > But, if this were the case, and given that the switching frequency is not > crystal-controlled, shouldn't I see waving lines ? What I see are perfectly > straght lines, no signs of ondulations.... > > I have noticed another signal, may be Matti has an explanation > for this too : > > > TNX > 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17130 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 23:16:34 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 23:16:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20014 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 23:16:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 23:16:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yK7h-0001qC-Rb for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:15:57 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yK7d-0001q3-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:15:53 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-81.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.81] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18yK7c-000HIX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:15:52 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2f3ee$49bd3d60$511686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:15:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 26 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.4 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Joe VO1NA said > > It seems KL1X is right... there's still something wrong with > the ionosphere. Aside from the LORAN lines, only 2 dahs > came through on 137.7733 kHz at ~0400Z this morning. It is somrtimes a good thing to monitor signals when the ionosphere is behaving strangely. I will transmit for a period when I wake up due to 'elderly gent problem'. Frequency 137.772 and a bit. > > Is Brian DRP still QRV? Haven't seen him on for a short while Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30769 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 22:03:02 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 22:03:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11168 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 22:03:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 22:03:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yIyN-0001Pq-NH for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:02:15 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yIyE-0001Ph-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:02:07 +0000 Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.136) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 22:01:33 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.11.127] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 759HcZwBy0246M36; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:01:24 GMT Message-ID: <3E82234A.1080709@usa.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:01:46 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> Subject: LF: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060209000708030009050606" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.1 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_10, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060209000708030009050606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Matti and Stewart,

   thanks for your answers. Just one question Stewart. You say that :

In effect, the input bridge is a balanced mixer,
multiplying the 20870 Hz carrier by the distorted mains
current waveform.

So the noise conducted to the mains is primarily
20870 Hz +/- odd multiples of the mains frequency.
But, if this were the case, and given that the switching frequency is not
crystal-controlled, shouldn't I see waving lines ? What I see are perfectly
straght lines, no signs of ondulations....

I have noticed another signal, may be Matti has an explanation
for this too :


TNX
73  Alberto  I2PHD


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mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 21:49:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8465 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 21:49:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 21:49:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yIkY-0001J6-Gn for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:47:58 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.39] (helo=imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yIkN-0001Ix-FU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:47:47 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1e4.55571f4 (16633) for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1e4.55571f4.2bb379d5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:47:01 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: LF: Unusual QRN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF group,

tonight the band seems to be plagued by a high level of background QRN. Not the usual  distinct static crashes, but rather a continous static crackling reminiscent of old 78-rpm shellack records. This type of noise has been present during some nights, but not often. Its southerly angle of arrival went along well with the usual explanation of very distant lightning activity.

But I was stunned when I observed today that it commenced fairly suddenly, within a few seconds around 17:22 UT. Then this would have to be related to some abrupt change of ionospheric properties...?

There is a directional spectrogram at http://members.aol.com/DF6NM/crackle.jpg (66kB). The bright blue vertical strips are "normal" crashes, coming in from west and with slowly decreasing activity. The crackling noises appear at 17:22 as a continuous green haze in the 5s averaging. The audio sample http://members.aol.com/DF6NM/crackle.wav (44kB) was taken later at 19:58 UT.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1490 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 21:17:16 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 21:17:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14506 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 21:17:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 21:17:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yIGB-00016e-PT for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:16:35 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yIG3-00016V-Re for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:16:27 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #24) id 18yIG3-00007K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:16:27 +0000 Message-ID: <00a901c2f3dd$22739f80$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:17:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re the 73k/136k expeditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Didn't work first time so here it is again..... Derek and all. Good news that Jim will be with you, I'll probably be back home before you come on but we may work on Monday. I hope to be active from Friday evening on 136 and 73k. My contact number is 07976 833 839 and the QRA is IO75WC 29km West of Dumfries. RUGBY IS OFF AT PRESENT!! Let's hope it stays off for the weekend. I hope to leave "the Grabber" running on 72kHz in 3-sec Argo to aid with tuning up. It'll have to use the IC735 and Datong converter so it won't be very stable but I've put the Datong on top of the PC to keep it warm! It's at http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab from Friday morning. Cheers. Dave G3YXM. > Herewith further info re the planned LF expedition to Porthcurno, Cornwall > next weekend. > I am pleased to say that Jim Moritz M0BMU will also be taking part and we > hope to be QRV on both 73Khz and 136Khz from Monday evening 31st March > through to at least Tuesday night, 1st of April. Provisional QRG on 73Khz > for QRSS is 71.915Khz. We may also be able to do some cross-band work > > Location of the Museum is IO70EB, NGR SW384 227 > > Contact mobile phone number : 07742 676495 > Mesages can also be left at : 01736 810 153. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14769 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:57:42 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:57:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 11331 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:57:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:57:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yH0x-0000lR-Ps for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:56:47 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yH0m-0000lH-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:56:37 +0000 Received: from dial81-131-114-241.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.114.241] helo=j1r9b7) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #24) id 18yH0m-0001vt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:56:36 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c2f3cf$04698800$f1728351@j1r9b7> From: "Derek Atter" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:49:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF. Re: 73k portable activity from Cornwall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Herewith further info re the planned LF expedition to Porthcurno, Cornwall next weekend. I am pleased to say that Jim Moritz M0BMU will also be taking part and we hope to be QRV on both 73Khz and 136Khz from Monday evening 31st March through to at least Tuesday night, 1st of April. Provisional QRG on 73Khz for QRSS is 71.915Khz. We may also be able to do some cross-band work Location of the Museum is IO70EB, NGR SW384 227 Contact mobile phone number : 07742 676495 Mesages can also be left at : 01736 810 153. Vy 73, de Derek Atter, G3GRO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23249 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:13:35 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:13:35 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 878 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:13:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:13:36 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yGKo-0000TX-PW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:13:14 +0000 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yGKd-0000TA-OO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:13:03 +0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@edwards.boc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-19.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1048705972!53330 Received: (qmail 8720 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:12:52 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-19.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:12:52 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HKNNMF7S; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:41:01 -0000 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:36:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: RE: LF: Glowing MOSFETS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Glowing MOSFETs may be a practical proposition before long...... 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For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13243 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:11:17 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:11:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16536 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 19:11:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 19:11:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yGIC-0000RI-WC for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:10:32 +0000 Received: from [193.229.0.44] (helo=fep02-app.kolumbus.fi) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yGHw-0000R6-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:10:16 +0000 Received: from merocomp ([62.248.154.106]) by fep02-app.kolumbus.fi with SMTP id <20030326191014.WXKZ4145.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@merocomp> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:10:14 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c2f3cb$651e7240$1c076c0a@arenanet.fi> From: "Matti Niemela" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E81E30E.2090401@usa.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:10:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: VLF signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040007040607020107050209" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.2 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040007040607020107050209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Alberto,
 
You probable see in the picture Tavolara Italy which listed on 20.27 KHz. Most of the VLF stations use MSK modulation.
 
73 Matti OH2ZT 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: LF: VLF signals

Hi all,
   I have just built a small indoor loop, and have connected
it to the sound card. No preamp, just a step-up transformer.
I see the signals visible in the attached picture. Is anybody
able to recognize them ?
Some of the signals seem to be spaced 100 Hz, but going
to higher resolution, the spacing is just a bit short of 100 Hz...
And the blurb at 20200 - 20300, is it an RTTY ?

TNX
73  Alberto  I2PHD



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with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yGBB-0000Kf-Cj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:03:17 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030326190244.RHIK15385.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:02:44 +1200 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.225.184]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030326190243.DOKB29186.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:02:43 +1200 Message-ID: <002b01c2f3cb$020221c0$b8e136d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> <003201c2f247$ee408200$0100007f@xtr743187> <5.1.0.14.0.20030326110918.00abac60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:06:55 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim and others, Thanks for getting the numbers straightened out. I've been hasty with email recently due to "not enough minutes in the day". The mains harmonic situation is that "very high" frequency stability would be needed to not have harmonics sweeping over LF DX working frequencies that were selected for being "interleaved" with N times 50 Hz. Also N times 60 Hz for consideration of North America, etc. However, I believe these interleaved spots are still the best from a statistical point of view, as mains harmonics would be expected to spend most time around the N times 50 and 60 Hz regions. > >I made a numerical mistake in my last posting. 25 Hz shift at 136 kHz is > >a ratio of about 0.009, or 0.9%. Of course, we would like the "QRM > >deviation" of 50 Hz lines to be much less than plus or minus 25 Hz. > > > >73, Bob ZL2CA > > > Dear Bob, LF Group, > > 25/136000 = 0.00018, or 0.018% for 25Hz shift - a 0.9% shift in the 50Hz > mains frequency would lead to the 2720th harmonic shifting by 1224Hz... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11025 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 18:53:53 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 18:53:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 453 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 18:53:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 18:53:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yG1T-0000E2-Si for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:53:15 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yG1O-0000Dt-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:53:10 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #24) id 18yG1M-0000Kf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:53:09 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c2f3c9$1ee0cbe0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1608919816.20030326183556@web.de> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:54:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Michael That Surplus Sales site is brilliant! I especially like the insulators and feed-thoughs on page 10... Dave G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Oexner" To: "Tom Boucher" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS > Hi Tom, > > > A short google search brought up the following: > > http://www.surplussales.com/Antennas/Antennasmain.html > > (have a look at page 4 of the above) > > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/switch/1432.html > > http://www.science-city.com/knifeswitch.html > > ...and there's even more www pages to browse :-) > > > As for Dave's knife switches, I've been searching for years for one > > of those ceramic based ones my Grandad had on his window-sill for > > grounding the antenna. > > > -- > Best regards, > Michael mailto:michael.oexner@web.de > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4708 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 18:50:09 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 18:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16446 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 18:50:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 18:50:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yFxQ-0000Bm-Us for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:49:04 +0000 Received: from [165.254.4.18] (helo=mail.mcf.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yFxH-0000BN-S0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:48:56 +0000 Received: from w2ksn (192.55.122.104) by mail.mcf.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2) for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:48:54 -0500 Message-ID: <005901c2f3c7$84a766c0$687a37c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:42:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Fw: VLF signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080509060605000601000308" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080509060605000601000308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Alberto and all, I can't explain the blurb, but IMO the rest is mostly noise from an SMPS. This power supply has a full wave bridge rectifier from the mains, feeding a large capacitor. Across the ESR of the capacitor is noise at the switching frequency of approximately 20870 Hz. The bridge conducts for about 2 ms each half mains cycle. When it is off, the noise source is effectively disconnected. On alternate half cycles, the noise is connected to the mains with opposite polarity. In effect, the input bridge is a balanced mixer, multiplying the 20870 Hz carrier by the distorted mains current waveform. So the noise conducted to the mains is primarily 20870 Hz +/- odd multiples of the mains frequency. The balance is imperfect, so you can see faint lines at the carrier frequency, and at offsets of even multiples of 50 Hz. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: "LF Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: LF: VLF signals > Hi all, > I have just built a small indoor loop, and have connected > it to the sound card. No preamp, just a step-up transformer. > I see the signals visible in the attached picture. 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marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 17:36:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yEpE-0008GX-2N for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:36:32 +0000 Received: from [217.72.192.158] (helo=smtp.web.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yEp9-0008GE-6K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:36:27 +0000 Received: from [217.228.170.13] (helo=pD9E4AA0D.dip.t-dialin.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.97 #53) id 18yEod-0005nj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:35:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:35:56 +0100 From: "Michael Oexner" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1608919816.20030326183556@web.de> To: "Tom Boucher" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-19.6 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Tom, A short google search brought up the following: http://www.surplussales.com/Antennas/Antennasmain.html (have a look at page 4 of the above) http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/switch/1432.html http://www.science-city.com/knifeswitch.html ...and there's even more www pages to browse :-) > As for Dave's knife switches, I've been searching for years for one > of those ceramic based ones my Grandad had on his window-sill for > grounding the antenna. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:michael.oexner@web.de From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20669 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 17:28:49 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 17:28:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21650 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 17:28:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 17:28:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yEh3-0008CY-GW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:28:05 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yEgx-0008C7-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:27:59 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 17:27:28 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.148] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 907HcZRbV0475M31; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:27:21 GMT Message-ID: <3E81E30E.2090401@usa.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:27:42 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LF Mailing List" Subject: LF: VLF signals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040102040202080009020407" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_08, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040102040202080009020407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all,
   I have just built a small indoor loop, and have connected
it to the sound card. No preamp, just a step-up transformer.
I see the signals visible in the attached picture. Is anybody
able to recognize them ?
Some of the signals seem to be spaced 100 Hz, but going
to higher resolution, the spacing is just a bit short of 100 Hz...
And the blurb at 20200 - 20300, is it an RTTY ?

TNX
73  Alberto  I2PHD



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(Exim 4.14) id 18yEa8-00086g-2m for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:20:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yEa2-00086X-LZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:20:50 +0000 Received: from telemetry.demon.co.uk ([194.222.19.114]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18yEa1-000P5O-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:20:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:33:09 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Tom Boucher" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030326121030.00a9e340@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim So you mean we will be able to tune the PA so we can see the shadow of the gate through the drain just like we did with the good old 813s? As for Dave's knife switches, I've been searching for years for one of those ceramic based ones my Grandad had on his window-sill for grounding the antenna. 73, Tom 'OLB. James Moritz writes > >Dear Tom, LF Group, > >With the recent progress in high-temperature semiconductors based on >silicon carbide and other materials, devices that work at 650degrees C now >exist. Glowing MOSFETs may be a practical proposition before long - I >wonder if that will bring about a resurgence in ebonite panels and brass >terminals? > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14540 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 15:27:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 15:27:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14381 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 15:27:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 15:27:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yCkH-0007UT-Tz for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:23:17 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yCkC-0007UK-Hr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:23:12 +0000 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2QFNAc14761 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id KAA27161; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:23:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000601c2f3ad$449c9740$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2f260$b4bc0b80$0200a8c0@charter.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20030326121030.00a9e340@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:35:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim, ----- > With the recent progress in high-temperature semiconductors based on > silicon carbide and other materials, devices that work at 650degrees C now > exist. Glowing MOSFETs may be a practical proposition before long - I > wonder if that will bring about a resurgence in ebonite panels and brass > terminals? Could the MOSFETs be mounted in evacuated glass cylinders? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10525 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 14:54:23 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 14:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 15556 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 14:54:23 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 14:54:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yCHI-0007Kx-52 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:53:20 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yCHC-0007Ko-LM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:53:14 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18yCGx-0007Q0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:52:59 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18yCGj-0006o0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:52:45 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030326121030.00a9e340@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:52:43 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: References: <001001c2f260$b4bc0b80$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Glowing MOSFETS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 11:38 26/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >That's SO nostalgic... brings a tear to my eye. When MOSFETs glow cherry > >red, you just don't have the same reaction! > > > >John Andrews, W1TAG > >That's 'cos they explode rather than glow! I speak from experience! Dear Tom, LF Group, With the recent progress in high-temperature semiconductors based on silicon carbide and other materials, devices that work at 650degrees C now exist. Glowing MOSFETs may be a practical proposition before long - I wonder if that will bring about a resurgence in ebonite panels and brass terminals? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18905 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 13:21:40 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 13:21:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 14409 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 13:21:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 13:21:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yApH-0006qm-MU for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:20:19 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yAp7-0006qd-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:20:10 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18yAp5-0001Xu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:20:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c2f39a$970c8b10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:21:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A tests tonight on 137.7747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false They DO glow, but only for a few mS! Dave 'YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Boucher" > > That's 'cos they explode rather than glow! I speak from experience! > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10155 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 12:47:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:47:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14231 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 12:47:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:46:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yAIQ-0006ah-JP for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:46:22 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yAIJ-0006aY-F3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:46:15 +0000 Received: from snet.net ([204.60.63.220]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2QCk2QV001806 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:46:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E81A160.98C3A9DB@snet.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:47:28 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c2f38e$4a5cda60$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 26 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Same. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Nothing. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24153 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20575 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18yA7z-0006TQ-I7 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:35:35 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18yA7q-0006TH-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:35:26 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.14]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA06111 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:35:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c2f394$2e023080$cc28730a@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000d01c2f38e$4a5cda60$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:35:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 26 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto here in Maryland.....really nothing... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: LF: TA 26 March > Nothing. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25823 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:53:50 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:53:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3566 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:53:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:53:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y9TD-00069q-BA for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:53:27 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y9T7-00069e-JK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:53:21 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2QBrF8M016397 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:23:16 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2QBrFdc029701 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:23:15 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2QBrEQJ002958; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:23:14 -0330 (NST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:23:13 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 26 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It seems KL1X is right... there's still something wrong with the ionosphere. Aside from the LORAN lines, only 2 dahs came through on 137.7733 kHz at ~0400Z this morning. Is Brian DRP still QRV? Hoping for better condx soon... Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28444 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:53:19 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:53:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1773 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 11:53:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:53:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y9SY-00069B-1W for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:52:46 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.15] (helo=mx05.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y9SS-000692-9f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:52:40 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 93762187 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c2f38e$4a5cda60$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:53:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 26 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18037 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:32:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1874 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 11:32:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:32:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y987-0005vu-42 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:31:39 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y981-0005vd-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:31:34 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18y92t-0003qb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:26:15 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18y92j-0003qs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:26:05 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030326110918.00abac60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:25:59 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <001401c2f30a$c5cc0560$269437d2@xtr743187> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> <003201c2f247$ee408200$0100007f@xtr743187> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 07:29 26/03/2003 +1200, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I made a numerical mistake in my last posting. 25 Hz shift at 136 kHz is >a ratio of about 0.009, or 0.9%. Of course, we would like the "QRM >deviation" of 50 Hz lines to be much less than plus or minus 25 Hz. > >73, Bob ZL2CA > Dear Bob, LF Group, 25/136000 = 0.00018, or 0.018% for 25Hz shift - a 0.9% shift in the 50Hz mains frequency would lead to the 2720th harmonic shifting by 1224Hz... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25000 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:27:54 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:27:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26806 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 11:27:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:27:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y93z-0005sn-Ai for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:27:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.85] (helo=anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y93u-0005se-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:27:18 +0000 Received: from telemetry.demon.co.uk ([194.222.19.114]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18y93r-0006iH-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:27:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:38:20 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Tom Boucher" In-reply-to: <001001c2f260$b4bc0b80$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A tests tonight on 137.7747 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.8 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SIGNATURE_LONG_DENSEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In message <001001c2f260$b4bc0b80$0200a8c0@charter.net>, John Andrews writes >Dave, > >> The 6L6s are glowing cherry-red and I've found the "sweet spot" on the >> crystal ready for tonight's tests. The knife switch will be thrown at >03.30 >> and emissions will continue until about 07.30 when the shilling in the >meter >> runs out. > >That's SO nostalgic... brings a tear to my eye. When MOSFETs glow cherry >red, you just don't have the same reaction! > >John Andrews, W1TAG That's 'cos they explode rather than glow! I speak from experience! Tom G3OLB -- Tom Boucher Telemetry Consultants Limited 10 Market Square Chesham Buckinghamshire HP5 1ES UK Tel: (44)(0)1494 792433 Fax: (44)(0)1494 792533 Mobile:07932-615232 www.telemetry.demon.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2104 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 11:01:21 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19785 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 11:01:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 11:01:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y8cz-0005fv-TH for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:59:29 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y8cu-0005fm-IF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:59:24 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.170]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030326105923.ICAU27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:59:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c2f386$cc014e00$aad0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> <000001c2f323$16dbbe60$99ccfc3e@ian> <001301c2f333$e54e70c0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:59:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re:RX sensitivity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Yes Alan, just done a quick check and about 2uV of noise on 136 and a bit less on 73. However this morning it all sounds very quiet but 'round midnight ' there was a lot more aggro, like about 20uV (I'm guessing from the S meter) worth and lots of huge static crashes audible over my sked on 80. Everything appeared to work OK this time. When I staggered out of the pit at 0600 (for the usual elderly gent reason) it was all chirping away nicely, and the shack was lovely and warm. Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11768 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 06:57:35 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 06:57:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17929 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 06:57:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 06:57:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18y4k0-0004hH-Iy for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:50:28 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18y4jv-0004h8-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:50:23 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2Q6oLbR004507 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:50:22 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:50:19 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2Q6oIB07729 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:50:18 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:50:16 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/26/2003 12:50:19 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re:RX sensitivity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Yep I get a few uV here too! I just copied Dave and Alans tests with CW min readable here in 150Hz, versus MDS (Min discernible perhaps this should be visible signal) using QRSS60 here using the WGPS30 and a paper clip - and I make it 28dB"r"in favor - on a noisy evening band (or im my case 28dBm!) - very close to your figs - well done both. Someone's done something to my ionosphere -please can I have some signals back. Laurence KL1X www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22227 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 01:13:33 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 01:13:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20013 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 01:13:36 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 01:13:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xzTY-0003j1-PY for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:13:08 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.105] (helo=imo-r09.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xzTT-0003if-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:13:04 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.186.174ff9fa (3972) for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:12:31 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <186.174ff9fa.2bb2587e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:12:30 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Merci, Daniel. John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4514 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 01:06:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 01:06:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4403 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Mar 2003 01:06:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 01:06:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xzMf-0003eJ-6t for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:06:01 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xzMa-0003eA-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:05:56 +0000 Received: from host213-122-2-213.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.2.213] helo=Main) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18xzMZ-000409-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:05:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c2f333$e54e70c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> <000001c2f323$16dbbe60$99ccfc3e@ian> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:05:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re:RX sensitivity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ian that sounds adequate with any reasonable sized aerial you will probably get a few microvolts of noise from the aerial (I think I get abt 3uV in 300Hz) Cheers de Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: 25 March 2003 12:32 Subject: LF: Re:RX sensitivity. > As it happens I checked out my TS850 yesterday and got the following figures > in 270Hz bw, slope fully open, 10 dB S+N/N; > > 73 KHz, 0.5uV pd; > > 136KHz, 0.17uV pd. > > Admittedly the sig genny is not within calibration warranty > but...............! > > 73, > > Ian > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8372 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 00:01:56 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 00:01:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24328 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 00:01:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 00:01:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xyM5-0003Pa-6j for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:01:21 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xyLx-0003PQ-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:01:13 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.190]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030326000112.JKWP22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:01:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2f32a$d3ae80c0$99ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:00:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.7735 tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Setting up to commence TX at 0400 and will run until 0800. QRSS60 137.7735. Hope it all works this time. 73, Ian MI0AYZ. 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Translation of the French below by W5VU:
Hello, I've just discovered that there exists a French language discussion group for the 137 kHz band. It's on Yahoo France; the group is 137khz-fr . 73 de Daniel
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES

Sorry  we don't speak French.

f1tay wrote:

Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10293 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 23:06:28 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 23:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27325 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 23:06:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 23:06:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xxUS-00039A-9X for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:05:56 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xxUN-000391-2y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:05:51 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.153]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030325230550.EFDU2099.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:05:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2f323$16dbbe60$99ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:32:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re:RX sensitivity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false As it happens I checked out my TS850 yesterday and got the following figures in 270Hz bw, slope fully open, 10 dB S+N/N; 73 KHz, 0.5uV pd; 136KHz, 0.17uV pd. Admittedly the sig genny is not within calibration warranty but...............! 73, Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27497 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 22:43:27 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 22:43:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24223 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 22:43:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 22:43:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xx8D-0002zp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:42:57 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xx87-0002zg-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:42:51 +0000 Received: from snet.net (nrwl-sh5-port53.snet.net [204.60.239.53]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2PMghQV017490 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:42:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E80DBB1.C719CE6@snet.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:44:01 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> Subject: Re: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Sorry  we don't speak French.

f1tay wrote:

Bonjour,Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.73 de Daniel
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9428 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 22:26:34 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 22:26:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28994 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 22:26:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 22:26:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xwqW-0002th-AM for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:24:40 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.29] (helo=mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xwqR-0002tY-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:24:35 +0000 Received: from v1j7v5 (Mix-Archives-108-2-70.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.249.92.70]) by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C8A3000425 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:24:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000401c2f31d$3b7c53c0$465cf9c1@v1j7v5> From: "f1tay" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:20:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: POUR LES FRANCOPHONES Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCES,SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Bonjour,
Je viens de découvrir qu'il existe un groupe de discussion francophone sur la bande 137 kHz.
C'est sur yahoo france c'est le groupe 137khz-fr.
73 de Daniel
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24391 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 20:08:12 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 20:08:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16126 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 20:08:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 20:08:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xuhd-0002M4-BM for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:07:21 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.147] (helo=mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xuhW-0002Le-SD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:07:15 +0000 Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030325200642.DPZL16358.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:06:42 +1200 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.55.148.38]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030325200640.EDUM12947.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:06:40 +1200 Message-ID: <001401c2f30a$c5cc0560$269437d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> <003201c2f247$ee408200$0100007f@xtr743187> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:29:53 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
 
I made a numerical mistake in my last posting.  25 Hz shift at 136 kHz is a ratio of about 0.009, or 0.9%.  Of course, we would like the "QRM deviation" of 50 Hz lines to be much less than plus or minus 25 Hz.
 
73, Bob ZL2CA
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2566 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 19:19:51 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:19:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 7969 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 19:19:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:19:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xtvA-00024D-Ig for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:17:16 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xtv5-000244-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:17:11 +0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2PJH9i04147 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id OAA29782; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:17:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801c2f304$c7838820$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:28:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: TA 25 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.4 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mitch, > > I also have a signal at 137772.2 as of 1145, which I assume is "MP," though > > I can't ID it. > Nope - QRT this weekend - not back yet.... rare dx ? May just have been a chopped-up carrier. See: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19550 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 19:04:41 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:04:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 9562 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 19:04:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:04:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xtdU-0001pO-Jf for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:59:00 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.21] (helo=mailout10.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xtdI-0001p8-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:58:48 +0000 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18xtdG-0002sE-07; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:58:46 +0100 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.155.252.88]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18xtd7-0Xjn2OC; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:58:37 +0100 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324235944.00cfc8c0@pop.1und1.com> <002001c2f2a6$b42aec40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000701c2f2ad$ad2f08c0$3704210a@Hugh> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:58:37 +0100 Message-ID: <18xtd7-0Xjn2OC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.2 required=5.0tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_TONLINE,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hugh M0WYE schrieb: > Me too ... > Hugh M0WYE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:15 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running > > > > > my Argo/Speclab-Monitor is running at > > > > > > http://dj1yfk.dnydns.org:5800/ > > > > > > until about 0630 UTC (if it doesn't crash..) > > > > > > 73, Fabian DJ1YFK > > > > I get a page not found message. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > > ==================== Hi, Fabians msg was: Sri, forgot to mention: password to get access is "136khz" (all lower case). regards Uwe/dj8wx From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5666 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 19:04:03 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:04:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 6482 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 19:03:55 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 19:03:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xthp-0001qr-7f for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:03:29 +0000 Received: from [209.226.175.52] (helo=tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xthg-0001qf-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:03:20 +0000 Received: from [65.93.71.29] by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030325190316.BBKS15003.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@[65.93.71.29]> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:03:16 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:04:28 -0500 From: "Mitch Powell" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: In-reply-to: <001301c2f2c6$9154dee0$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 25 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTE_TWICE_1,USER_AGENT_MACOEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > > I also have a signal at 137772.2 as of 1145, which I assume is "MP," though > I can't ID it. Nope - QRT this weekend - not back yet.... rare dx ? MP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20325 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 17:55:36 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 17:55:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18019 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 17:55:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 17:55:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xsdZ-0001YG-OW for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:55:01 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xsdU-0001Y5-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:54:56 +0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2PHssi21798 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id MAA23951; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:54:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000f01c2f2f9$49d3f000$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003801c2f2f3$e0614140$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:06:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Comparison of QRSS speed performance. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, > I did some tests today with Alan G3NYK at about 220km distance, to compare > the performance of different QRSS speeds under real band conditions. How > much better is QRSS60 than QRSS10 or QRSS3... or CW? > Find out our findings at http://www.wireless.org.uk/signoise.htm Quite close to the results I got on a "closed circuit" test with a small xmit loop at my own site: http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/w1tag/1qrss.htm Nice to know that these things work out in the real world. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5975 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 17:34:41 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 17:34:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 13420 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 17:34:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 17:34:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xsCL-0001MI-Lv for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:26:53 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xsCC-0001M9-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:26:45 +0000 Received: from host217-35-3-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.3.167] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18xsCC-0000uy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:26:44 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c2f2f3$e0614140$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:27:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Comparison of QRSS speed performance. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. I did some tests today with Alan G3NYK at about 220km distance, to compare the performance of different QRSS speeds under real band conditions. How much better is QRSS60 than QRSS10 or QRSS3... or CW? Find out our findings at http://www.wireless.org.uk/signoise.htm 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19142 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 14:59:06 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 14:59:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18814 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 14:59:00 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 14:59:00 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xpsA-0000VQ-CT for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:57:54 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xps1-0000VH-1a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:57:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 6840 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 11:19:09 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 11:19:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:57:48 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <188264863191.20030325175748@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: MW?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF_Group! http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/imgs/world_at_night.jpg How much MW is radiated? How there are a lot of QRM it radiates on LF? ;-(( The best place in North of Siberia and on North of Far East (UA0)? Maybe Arctic and Antarctic? As though them to involve for improvement of LF propagation? ;-)) 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 857 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:55:33 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:55:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19692 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:55:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:55:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xnws-0008F9-4c for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:54:38 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xnwi-0008Eu-GU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:54:28 +0000 Received: from snet.net (23.212.252.64.snet.net [64.252.212.23]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2PCsLQV027980 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:54:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E8051CF.F60DAFAB@snet.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:55:44 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> <001301c2f2c6$9154dee0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000801c2f2ca$2db753a0$cc28730a@direcpc.com> Subject: Re: LF: Re: TA 25 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Similar results here. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD lloyd chastant wrote: > My overnites showed only light traces at 137.77215 and 137.7742 at about > 0530z and another light trace at 137.7745 at 0815z..nothing that was easily > identified... > de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Andrews" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:03 AM > Subject: LF: TA 25 March > > > No luck again today, mostly because the FTP process failed at 0545, and no > > captures were saved after that point. There were some hints of a signal at > > 137774.2 just before things died. > > > > I also have a signal at 137772.2 as of 1145, which I assume is "MP," > though > > I can't ID it. > > > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14452 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:30:09 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:30:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11493 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 12:30:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:30:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xnYb-00084V-LG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:29:33 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xnYV-00084M-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:29:28 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.100]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA06813 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c2f2ca$2db753a0$cc28730a@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> <001301c2f2c6$9154dee0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:29:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 25 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false My overnites showed only light traces at 137.77215 and 137.7742 at about 0530z and another light trace at 137.7745 at 0815z..nothing that was easily identified... de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: LF: TA 25 March > No luck again today, mostly because the FTP process failed at 0545, and no > captures were saved after that point. There were some hints of a signal at > 137774.2 just before things died. > > I also have a signal at 137772.2 as of 1145, which I assume is "MP," though > I can't ID it. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14184 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:14:26 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:14:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9477 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 12:14:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:14:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xnJc-0007tT-H5 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:14:04 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.41] (helo=mta1-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xnJX-0007tJ-08 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:13:59 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.55]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030325121358.ZDDR6822.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:13:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2f2c8$24f656a0$37d0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:09:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A 25th A.M. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Came into the shack this morning at 0720 to find that the system had failed and had apparently not come on at 0430 as advertised. Have not yet found out why, as everything seems to be hunky-dory on three test shots so the odds are eleven to two on on it being operator finger trouble. Will try again tonight, same settings and frequency, probably switching on manually after 80m. sked with G3SGR and just before beddy-byes, but will post actual switch on time later. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18275 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:10:59 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:10:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2148 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 12:10:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:10:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xnG5-0007rF-FD for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:10:25 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xnFz-0007r6-Q6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:10:20 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2PCAF8M015069 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:40:16 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2PCAEdc011225 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:40:14 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2PCAEQB005605; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:40:14 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:40:13 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <006201c2f23e$ceae78b0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 25 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This morning I saw LDO and AQC for about 3 hours starting at about 0430Z. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8246 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:04:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 9387 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 12:04:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 12:04:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xn94-0007m6-4Y for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:03:10 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.17] (helo=mx07.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xn8y-0007lx-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:03:05 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 58938266 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001301c2f2c6$9154dee0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:03:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 25 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false No luck again today, mostly because the FTP process failed at 0545, and no captures were saved after that point. There were some hints of a signal at 137774.2 just before things died. I also have a signal at 137772.2 as of 1145, which I assume is "MP," though I can't ID it. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1814 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 10:43:01 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 10:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 9908 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 10:43:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 10:43:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xlsB-0007NJ-44 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:41:39 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xls3-0007N6-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:41:32 +0000 Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.138) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 10:40:59 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.255.85.61] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 059HcykO50433M38; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:40:57 GMT Message-ID: <3E80324C.1020009@usa.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:41:16 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: Transmitting tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurence J Howell wrote: >I must say the 870 is an >excellent LF performer down to 70Khz. > Surely it is, but reading the Kenwood specs for both rigs : Sensitivity (10 dB (S+N)/N) SSB/CW/FSK in the range 100kHz - 500kHz (no BW specified...) TS-870 : 1 uV TS-850 : 0.2 uV So for LF work I would prefer the TS-850 73 Albertio I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11413 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 09:55:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 09:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29578 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 09:07:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 09:07:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xkOb-0006tE-Bm for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:07:01 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.219] (helo=netmail01.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xkOW-0006t5-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:06:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 09:06:25 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 09:06:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c2f2ad$ad2f08c0$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324235944.00cfc8c0@pop.1und1.com> <002001c2f2a6$b42aec40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:36:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Me too ... Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: LF: Re: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running > > my Argo/Speclab-Monitor is running at > > > > http://dj1yfk.dnydns.org:5800/ > > > > until about 0630 UTC (if it doesn't crash..) > > > > 73, Fabian DJ1YFK > > I get a page not found message. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19991 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 09:45:26 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 09:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 26345 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 08:20:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 08:20:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xjbP-0006bH-MP for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:16:11 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xjbK-0006b8-VD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:16:07 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030325081606.JJYI20605.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:16:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c2f2a6$b42aec40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324235944.00cfc8c0@pop.1und1.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:15:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > my Argo/Speclab-Monitor is running at > > http://dj1yfk.dnydns.org:5800/ > > until about 0630 UTC (if it doesn't crash..) > > 73, Fabian DJ1YFK I get a page not found message. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9130 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 00:07:19 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 00:07:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17151 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 00:07:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 00:07:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbxt-0005A7-WD for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:06:53 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbxo-00059y-Ki for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:06:48 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18xbxo-0006rc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:06:48 +0100 Received: from [217.229.16.52] (helo=FABIAN.diolog.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18xbxo-0001bE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:06:48 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325000527.00cf6378@pop.1und1.com> X-Sender: pt8152986-6@pop.1und1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:06:13 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Fabian Kurz" In-reply-to: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324235944.00cfc8c0@pop.1und1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sri, forgot to mention: password to get access is "136khz" (all lower case). From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2919 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 00:02:24 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 00:02:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27448 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Mar 2003 00:02:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 00:02:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbtF-000558-Bu for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:02:05 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.189] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbtA-00054z-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:02:00 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18xbtA-0001xS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:02:00 +0100 Received: from [217.229.16.52] (helo=FABIAN.diolog.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18xbtA-0001GA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 01:02:00 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324235944.00cfc8c0@pop.1und1.com> X-Sender: pt8152986-6@pop.1und1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:01:24 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Fabian Kurz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Live-Argo/Speclab-Monitor running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0tests=WEIRD_PORTversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello group, my Argo/Speclab-Monitor is running at http://dj1yfk.dnydns.org:5800/ until about 0630 UTC (if it doesn't crash..) 73, Fabian DJ1YFK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2668 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:59:12 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:59:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7827 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:59:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:59:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbpz-00050t-OS for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:58:43 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbpr-00050k-0s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:58:35 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2ONwYZC001947 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:58:34 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:58:31 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ONwUB25367 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:58:30 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:58:28 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/24/2003 05:58:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Transmitting tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false First look at band conditions at my 2.50pm is that they still look poor for Tpol. Mind you it is in the middle of my afternoon, but I could see DCF39 on Dot 60. Good luck. Managed to secure a 850S from Ebay over the weekend for a few moose nuts, it may free up the 870S; but I must say the 870 is an excellent LF performer down to 70Khz. Laurence KL1X www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23176 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:48:31 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 10340 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 23:48:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:48:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbfi-0004rj-66 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:48:06 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.31] (helo=remt21.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbfd-0004rZ-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:48:01 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by remt21.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9b) with SMTP id 2846885 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:47:30 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c2f260$b4bc0b80$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007e01c2f25b$a18d8f70$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:54:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A tests tonight on 137.7747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, > The 6L6s are glowing cherry-red and I've found the "sweet spot" on the > crystal ready for tonight's tests. The knife switch will be thrown at 03.30 > and emissions will continue until about 07.30 when the shilling in the meter > runs out. That's SO nostalgic... brings a tear to my eye. When MOSFETs glow cherry red, you just don't have the same reaction! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17826 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:43:07 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28058 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:43:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:43:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbaI-0004pW-Ja for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:42:30 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbaD-0004pN-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:42:25 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-71.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.71] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18xbaD-000LVn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:42:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c2f25f$a79267c0$47e086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <000401c2f17e$b55f7320$a5d0fc3e@ian> <000a01c2f180$ec380f40$0200a8c0@charter.net> <002401c2f25a$3e423520$b3ccfc3e@ian> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:44:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Transmitting tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I will also join in tonight. Because there are a few stations on I will move down to 137,772 Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11696 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:17:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 16145 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 23:17:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:17:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xbBf-0004fj-L6 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:17:03 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xbBU-0004fU-4a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:16:52 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18xbBT-0005yD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:16:51 +0000 Message-ID: <007e01c2f25b$a18d8f70$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:18:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A tests tonight on 137.7747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. The 6L6s are glowing cherry-red and I've found the "sweet spot" on the crystal ready for tonight's tests. The knife switch will be thrown at 03.30 and emissions will continue until about 07.30 when the shilling in the meter runs out. Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18002 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 12311 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xb89-0004bE-Oj for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:13:25 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.2] (helo=cmsrelay05.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xb80-0004at-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:13:16 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:12:43 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.255.83.139] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 306HcXXmW0204M31; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:12:48 GMT Message-ID: <3E7F90FA.1000302@usa.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:12:58 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324175015.0272cec0@pop.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: LF: Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-15.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Frank Gentges KØBRA wrote: > I have similar good experience with the NRD-525. My only comment is > that the display and microprocessor can generate some false signals > which are down near the noise threshold aurally but can show up more > in the narrowband displays like Argo and sound like brain dead CW. A > good active antenna will cover up those signals. My antenna is at more than 15 meters from the Rx, which is duly grounded in the station. I haven't noticed much noise from the digital part of the Rx, but frankly I haven't looked specifically for it. Now that you have raised the problem, will do some tests. In any case, the NRD-525 won't leave my shack, I like it too much ! I use it even for listening to music on MW broadcasts while working on the PC, as also the audio quality is good. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6902 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:08:01 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:08:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28142 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 23:07:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 23:07:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xb2U-0004XD-17 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:07:34 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xb2P-0004X4-4M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:07:29 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.179]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030324230728.HQWU1184.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:07:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2f25a$3e423520$b3ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <000401c2f17e$b55f7320$a5d0fc3e@ian> <000a01c2f180$ec380f40$0200a8c0@charter.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:07:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.7735 tonite. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false -or rather tomorrow morning. Will TX again 0430 - 0730 as per this a.m. but on 137.7735 nominal. Tnx for the shot Jose, I think I have found out why the signal skidded so much and have taken steps to deal with that particular problem, also recalibrated completely. The IC706 is running continuously while these tests are going on and should have been pretty stable but in fact the power output had crept too low to maintain reliable frequency division. Here's hoping. Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27706 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3867 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 22:54:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:54:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xapI-0004PW-PP for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:53:56 +0000 Received: from [207.217.120.188] (helo=stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xapD-0004PN-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:53:52 +0000 Received: from ip68-98-177-130.nv.nv.cox.net ([68.98.177.130] helo=Larsen.mindspring.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18xapC-0006zR-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:53:50 -0800 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324175015.0272cec0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: fgentges@mindspring.com@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:54:58 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_Gentges_K=D8BRA?= In-reply-to: <3E7F893F.3050506@usa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 94f6b436fe9ff56f9c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4dfd2da3e77c3340b75f35574a9f150457350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: LF: Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-19.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, I have similar good experience with the NRD-525. My only comment is that the display and microprocessor can generate some false signals which are down near the noise threshold aurally but can show up more in the narrowband displays like Argo and sound like brain dead CW. A good active antenna will cover up those signals. Frank K0BRA At 11:39 PM 3/24/03 +0100, Alberto di Bene wrote: >Steve Dove wrote: > >>Hi Alberto, >> >>The fuzziness that is my memory vaguely remembers you once saying that >>you were using a JRC receiver, which you really liked. Is this so, and >>which model? >> >Hi Steve, > it is the JRC NRD-525, which is also quite stable, having a TCXO > factory-installed. >Also the sensitivity on the LF is very good, at a par with the TS-850 I >had a couple >of years ago. >As some reviewers of digital cameras would say, ** recommended ** :-) > >73 Alberto I2PHD > > Frank Gentges KØBRA LF web site at From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28193 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:40:58 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:40:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 17185 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 22:40:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:40:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xac1-0004Ih-TD for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:40:13 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.110] (helo=cmsrelay01.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xabw-0004IT-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:40:09 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:39:41 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.255.83.139] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 394HcXwnW0384M31; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:39:49 GMT Message-ID: <3E7F893F.3050506@usa.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:39:59 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Steve Dove wrote: >Hi Alberto, > >The fuzziness that is my memory vaguely remembers you once saying that you were using >a JRC receiver, which you really liked. Is this so, and which model? > > Hi Steve, it is the JRC NRD-525, which is also quite stable, having a TCXO factory-installed. Also the sensitivity on the LF is very good, at a par with the TS-850 I had a couple of years ago. As some reviewers of digital cameras would say, ** recommended ** :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16574 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:21:24 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:21:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18657 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:21:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:21:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xaDL-00040C-V2 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:43 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xaDH-0003zt-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:39 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-125.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.125] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18xaDG-00074i-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2f253$636d25a0$7d1686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E4BC23500033F62@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030314120358.024cf410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:18:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Antenna current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim M0BMU said > My loading coil lives outside in a shelter made of plastic sheet over a > timber frame. To get rid of condensation, I have an old fan-heater in the > bottom of the housing. The 2 heating elements are wired in series so it > consumes roughly 500W instead of 2kW. This is so it runs much cooler than > normal, just a warm draught, to avoid melting the plastic. > For many months (or is it years) now I had been puzzled over the variations in antenna current that occurred at different periods of time. I had tried correlating the changes with tides, weather or if there was a R in the month but nothing seemed to fit. I have now tried the Jim loading coil central heating method with much success. I built a plastic shelter and fixed up a fan heater. Earlier this evening, with the fan heater off, the weather was dry and still, but with quite a lot of precipitation just after dark I fired up the transmitter. Result antenna current 3 amps. Ran the heater for an hour. Result antenna current 7amps. The coil seemed quite dry but obviously the dry warm air made a big difference. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2390 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:18:16 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:18:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14853 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 22:18:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:18:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xaDK-000402-NV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:42 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xaDF-0003zp-Ss for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:37 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-125.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.125] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18xaDE-00074i-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:14:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2f253$6292f240$7d1686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <000601c2f033$e413b3d0$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <000a01c2f052$5c342160$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:05:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF Frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The frequency 137,773.0 was chosen by KL1X for looking for EU stations earlier this year. This was done after some exchange of .jpg s to find out where the Loran lines and noise bands were. Loran is a problem in Alaska. Siince then 137,773.0 has become a 'DX' frequency. The top of the band is not suitable for many EU stations because of the problems of very high power stations above 138kHz and other parts of the band might be more suitable. What might be a solution is for a 'bank' of Argo pictures (on someone's website) showing the images from various locations - in fact two images from each location showing the best and worst- so that anyone planning a test or a DXpedition could plan their operating frequency for optimum effect to a given area. Many USA stations and KL1X have already done this with images of what they have seen. A simple statement could be enough. for example if the band is clear except for one or two spot frequencies then that might be enough. In my case the top of the band above 137.5kHz fills up with noise from the 'Luxembourg effect' most evenings although it didn't stop me seeing UA9OC when conditions were good. Generally: Split frequency operation is essential for DX operating. The top of the band is OK for Northern EU stations to transmit but not to receive. Any more? Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16646 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:16:41 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:16:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4440 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 22:16:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 22:16:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xaBS-0003z7-W9 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:12:46 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xaBN-0003yu-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:12:42 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2OMCebR019154 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:12:40 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:12:10 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2OHOWB28869 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:24:32 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:24:32 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/24/2003 11:24:33 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Argo shots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06version=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false For those accessing my Argo dbase - if you cant get thru/slow at times its likely you've hit the ten or eleven concurrent session limit on my IIS server. 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Hi Jim, Alberto, Rik and others,
 
I agree that the frequency stability of the mains network is a point to consider further.  However, I think there are two interference mechanisms at play in the LF band:
 
1.  Genuine harmonics of the mains frequency, from the likes of peak rectifiers in domestic equipment.  These are a mixture of 50 and 100 Hz components, but are "phase locked" within themselves, so the net result is an apparent set of 50 Hz "lines"
2.  Sidebands of "asynchronous" switch mode power supplies, where the relatively unstable switching frequency is "hum modulated" by the rectified mains (mostly 100 Hz sidebands for a full wave rectifier, which most are).  Worst case is for the "carrier" of the switch mode supply to be in-band with the LF frequency of interest.
 
The sidebands of a switched mode power supplies seem to wander over any part of LF, and look like "snakes" on an Argo screen.  The pic from Alberto (see below) gives a good hint that there is a mains harmonic as well as a sideband from an asynch. switch mode supply.
 
When I first found the line very near 137.7000 kHz on 120 second dot Argo, during the evening, I phoned up my friend Andrew ZL2BBJ to see if he was experimenting with his LF DDS, and he was.  He had it set to 137.7000 kHz as a marker for forthcoming UA9OC tests.  He had no antenna connected, but he did have scope probes and wires on the bench, so I thought my receiving setup was performing very nicely as his QTH is about 10 km from mine.  However, the weak line I got carried on after he assured me that he had turned off power in his shack!  I doubt very much if there is a radio transmitter on 137.7000 with virtual world wide coverage, and that is when I considered that high order mains harmonics may not be negligible when we are digging well down on conventional noise floors.
 
My present opinion is that the New Zealand mains network does have fairly tight frequency stability, but I'll look at doing further tests.  However, if the mains frequency has worse stability in other countries then "avoiding" mains harmonics becomes less of an attraction.  136 kHz is the 2720th harmonic of 50 Hz.  For harmonics to not sweep plus or minus 25 Hz means the stability would need to be better than about 0.009%
 
73, Bob ZL2CA
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Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX

James Moritz wrote:
Not sure about ZL, but here in the UK the 50Hz nominal mains frequency drifts around quite a bit - perhaps a few tenths of 1%. Seen on a fairly coarse resolution spectrogram, the harmonics give a series of wavy lines spaced by 50 or 100Hz, which drift enough to give overlapping coverage during a period of a few minutes. But with very narrow resolution spectrograms, this just adds to the "wide band" noise level, rather than producing well-defined spectral lines, because the frequency does not remain within one FFT box for long enough to produce a line.
Just for curiosity, I visualized the 53rd harmonic of the 50 Hz here in my QTH,
and this is the result.  An unidentified signal is also present.

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xXyD-0003MP-B7 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:50:57 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xXy3-0003MG-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:50:52 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18xXxx-0004FG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:50:42 +0000 Message-ID: <006201c2f23e$ceae78b0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:51:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 24 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Joe Wrote.. > and a brief appearance of YXM on 4.6. > There was a trace of something at 3.3 as well. > That'd be the first spotting of the "pip-squeak" T/A( about 100mW erp). What time was that? 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23270 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 19:24:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 19:24:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24228 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 19:24:12 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 19:24:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xXVZ-0003DN-2O for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:21:21 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.110] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xXVU-0003DB-8y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:21:16 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout10.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HC9004EFPO3XQ@mtaout10.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:19:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:19:17 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alberto, The fuzziness that is my memory vaguely remembers you once saying that you were using a JRC receiver, which you really liked. Is this so, and which model? All the best, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6317 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 16:18:22 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 16:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26629 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 16:18:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 16:18:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xUda-0002Nv-Rp for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:17:26 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xUdU-0002Ng-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:17:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B34B701 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:16:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0974B75B for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:16:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447A2AEA48 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:16:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030324171536.00b5c810@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:17:30 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030702040904080402070206" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE, IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030702040904080402070206 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The picture seems to confirm Jim's remark, a variation of 1-2Hz at the 53rd harmonic results is a variation of 50-100Hz at the 2740th harmonic (137kHz)

73, Rik  ON7YD

At 15:43 24/03/2003 +0100, you wrote:
James Moritz wrote:
Not sure about ZL, but here in the UK the 50Hz nominal mains frequency drifts around quite a bit - perhaps a few tenths of 1%. Seen on a fairly coarse resolution spectrogram, the harmonics give a series of wavy lines spaced by 50 or 100Hz, which drift enough to give overlapping coverage during a period of a few minutes. But with very narrow resolution spectrograms, this just adds to the "wide band" noise level, rather than producing well-defined spectral lines, because the frequency does not remain within one FFT box for long enough to produce a line.
Just for curiosity, I visualized the 53rd harmonic of the 50 Hz here in my QTH,
and this is the result.  An unidentified signal is also present.

73  Alberto  I2PHD

53x50hzITA1.jpg 

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Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello Wolf,
 
Look at http://www.vlf.it/, there is also info about exact locations of RSDN-20 stations.
 
73 Matti/OH2ZT
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: LF: Russian "Alpha" VLF beacons moved ?

Hello Group,

Sorry this is not LF but VLF (which is more interesting to me these days):
I observed a frequency change of the three russion "Alpha" (RSDN-20) transmitters. At the moment, they are very strong on
12500 Hz,   12696 Hz, and 13283 Hz
with a small active indoor loop. The "old" frequencies used until a few days ago were
 11905 Hz,  12649 Hz and 14881 Hz .
They must have a nice variometers or a lot of taps on their loading coils ;-) ... anyone got more info about these 'beacons' ? Especially interesting would be their location and "official" accuracy of their frequency / phase .

Thanks,
 Wolf DL4YHF



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12490 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15367 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:44:55 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xTAa-0001pX-1u for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:43:24 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.111] (helo=cmsrelay02.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xTAN-0001pF-Oi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:43:11 +0000 Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.129) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:43:00 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.255.85.122] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 496HcXoQv0358M29; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:42:47 GMT Message-ID: <3E7F197A.4060502@usa.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:43:06 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060101010805010404050909" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_10, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060101010805010404050909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Moritz wrote:
Not sure about ZL, but here in the UK the 50Hz nominal mains frequency drifts around quite a bit - perhaps a few tenths of 1%. Seen on a fairly coarse resolution spectrogram, the harmonics give a series of wavy lines spaced by 50 or 100Hz, which drift enough to give overlapping coverage during a period of a few minutes. But with very narrow resolution spectrograms, this just adds to the "wide band" noise level, rather than producing well-defined spectral lines, because the frequency does not remain within one FFT box for long enough to produce a line.
Just for curiosity, I visualized the 53rd harmonic of the 50 Hz here in my QTH,
and this is the result.  An unidentified signal is also present.

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xT3b-0001kL-Pk for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:36:11 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.112] (helo=cmsrelay03.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xT3V-0001k8-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:36:05 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:35:23 -0000 Received: from usa.net [213.255.85.122] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 025HcXojE0065M31; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:35:30 GMT Message-ID: <3E7F13FF.6090503@usa.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:19:43 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <000701c2f033$e7c8a580$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Subject: Re: LF: Argo and Windows version Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Vernall wrote: >Once calibrated, the detailed (horizontal roll-out) displays have >good (crystal like) frequency accuracy and stability, however the wideband >(vertical roll-out) display shows twice the error compared to before >calibration was applied. > > Bob and the list, this is caused by the fact that the full band view (vertical scroll) uses a different sampling rate than the horizontal one. Presently Argo has the provision for calibrating just this latter. I have in the enhancement list for the next version also a double calibration. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11323 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 14:22:47 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:22:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4129 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 14:22:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 14:22:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xSpj-0001dJ-6g for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:21:51 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.98] (helo=imo-r02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xSpd-0001dA-6N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:21:45 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.12a.26294441 (4262); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:21:07 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.26294441.2bb06e52@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:21:06 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: openlab@vlf.it MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: Russian "Alpha" VLF beacons moved ? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Group,

Sorry this is not LF but VLF (which is more interesting to me these days):
I observed a frequency change of the three russion "Alpha" (RSDN-20) transmitters. At the moment, they are very strong on
12500 Hz,   12696 Hz, and 13283 Hz
with a small active indoor loop. The "old" frequencies used until a few days ago were
 11905 Hz,  12649 Hz and 14881 Hz .
They must have a nice variometers or a lot of taps on their loading coils ;-) ... anyone got more info about these 'beacons' ? Especially interesting would be their location and "official" accuracy of their frequency / phase .

Thanks,
 Wolf DL4YHF



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23893 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 13:53:02 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 13:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 12633 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 13:53:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 13:53:02 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xSJx-0001OX-FG for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:49:01 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xSJo-0001OO-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:48:52 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18xSGt-0004xN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:45:51 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18xSGr-00019M-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030324122153.00abb360@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:42:21 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <000601c2f033$e413b3d0$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, At 17:09 22/03/2003 +1200, Bob wrote: >So my suggestion for selecting frequencies for long haul DX between amateur >stations is to avoid multiples of 50 or 60 Hz (50 Hz mains being used in >some regions, 60 Hz in others). 137.7100 kHz is an example of being clear >of 50 Hz harmonics, whereas 137.7000 kHz is dicing with the 2754th harmonic >of 50 Hz, plus or minus some tolerance for the national grid. Not sure about ZL, but here in the UK the 50Hz nominal mains frequency drifts around quite a bit - perhaps a few tenths of 1%. Seen on a fairly coarse resolution spectrogram, the harmonics give a series of wavy lines spaced by 50 or 100Hz, which drift enough to give overlapping coverage during a period of a few minutes. But with very narrow resolution spectrograms, this just adds to the "wide band" noise level, rather than producing well-defined spectral lines, because the frequency does not remain within one FFT box for long enough to produce a line. Most of the stable spectral lines on LF at my QTH seem to be Loran, but a significant number are not. I also see a very faint line at 137.700kHz sometimes - wherever it comes from, it must be crystal controlled to have sufficient stability. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5337 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 12:55:25 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 12:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 10368 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 12:55:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 12:55:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xRTK-00016j-If for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:54:38 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xRT8-00016a-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:54:26 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030324125425.UQJG310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:54:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2f204$bf0286c0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:56:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 24 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > It seems the sun is starting to behave itself again. > G3AQC clear with a bit of initial drift from 0350-0630 on > 137,774.2 Hz, and a brief appearance of YXM on 4.6. > There was a trace of something at 3.3 as well. > Joe VO1NA The signal on 3.3 would have been me. I was sending 'XDV' using QRSS120. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19534 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 12:17:06 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 12:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20916 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 12:17:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 12:17:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xQsJ-0000mp-9n for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:16:23 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.150] (helo=telesmtp3.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xQrq-0000mX-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:15:54 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([212.170.168.44]) by telesmtp3.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HC962800.NCF for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:15:44 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c2f1ff$09c2a1a0$2ca8aad4@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2f1ef$0ddd9b60$1fd0fc3e@ian> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:12:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773 AM 24 Mar Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020706060107020308010106" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020706060107020308010106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ian and all: I think that your signal appears at 4.30 UTC but then the frequency drifts downwards and disappears of the ARGO´s window. 73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53TI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: LF: 137.773 AM 24 Mar > Automated system seems to work ok. 1.2A into the antenna and no > hiccups.Transmitted 'AYZ' repeated five times at QRSS60 between 0430 and > 0750 this morning with idents fore and aft at 8w.p.m.. 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18xQrp-0000me-Tw for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:15:53 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xQri-0000mQ-Jw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:15:46 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2OCFe8M030244 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:45:41 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2OCFedc005373 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:45:40 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2OCFeKk015875; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:45:40 -0330 (NST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:45:39 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <000a01c2f1fc$8fdd68e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 24 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It seems the sun is starting to behave itself again. G3AQC clear with a bit of initial drift from 0350-0630 on 137,774.2 Hz, and a brief appearance of YXM on 4.6. There was a trace of something at 3.3 as well. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22945 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 11:58:36 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 11:58:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 1513 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 11:58:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 11:58:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xQZl-0000dw-PU for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:57:13 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.21] (helo=dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xQZb-0000dn-4O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:57:03 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 63406987 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:56:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c2f1fc$8fdd68e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2f1ef$0ddd9b60$1fd0fc3e@ian> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:57:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773 AM 24 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'll second Jay's comments. It was fairly quiet overnight, but no signals were visible in the 137.772 - 775 window. Alan called this one correctly! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26087 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 11:21:51 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 11:21:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8328 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 11:21:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 11:21:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xQ0f-0000RM-1c for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.109] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xQ0Y-0000R9-GV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:20:50 +0000 Received: from snet.net (12-209-21-79.client.attbi.com [12.209.21.79]) by mtaout11.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HC9002PF3HSC0@mtaout11.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:20:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 06:22:33 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3E7EEA79.57A32441@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en References: <000501c2f1ef$0ddd9b60$1fd0fc3e@ian> Subject: Re: LF: 137.773 AM 24 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ian Nothing seen in CT. Noise fairly low but propagtion may have been down. John Andrews, with his highly effective "hoover" antenna, may have had better luck. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD Ian Kyle wrote: > Automated system seems to work ok. 1.2A into the antenna and no > hiccups.Transmitted 'AYZ' repeated five times at QRSS60 between 0430 and > 0750 this morning with idents fore and aft at 8w.p.m.. No smoke or flames or > sleep but more to the point are there any reports? > > Ian, MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32121 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 10:22:14 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 10:22:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 22594 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 10:22:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 10:22:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 18xP49-00005g-Bq for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:20:29 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 18xP43-00005X-PO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:20:23 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.31]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030324102023.BAKF22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:20:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2f1ef$0ddd9b60$1fd0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:20:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.773 AM 24 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Automated system seems to work ok. 1.2A into the antenna and no hiccups.Transmitted 'AYZ' repeated five times at QRSS60 between 0430 and 0750 this morning with idents fore and aft at 8w.p.m.. No smoke or flames or sleep but more to the point are there any reports? Ian, MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7787 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2003 05:31:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 05:31:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10769 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Mar 2003 05:31:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2003 05:31:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18xKUR-00079e-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:27:19 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xKUL-00079V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:27:13 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2O5RBHm012459 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:27:12 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:27:09 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2O5R8B06612 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:27:08 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:27:07 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/23/2003 11:27:09 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.774 Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ive reviewed the last couple of days shots and dont have anything I can readily identify - lots of strange squiggles, Yes, but no calls. Signals over the polar path continue to be depressed with Eu bcst/DCF giving random peaks from 2200-0500Z. L48 states signals continue to be depressed too. Cheers Laurence KL1X. Anchorage -2C Clear 4 channel live caputures continue on www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3303 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 23:14:55 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 23:14:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9647 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Mar 2003 23:14:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 23:14:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18xEfb-0005w5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:14:27 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xEfW-0005vw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:14:22 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030323231422.PURQ11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:14:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2f192$2d295d40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:16:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I will be on 137.7732 all night. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29172 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 23:07:14 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 23:07:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2916 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 23:07:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 23:07:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18xEXc-0005rq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:06:12 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xEXU-0005rh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:06:04 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18xEXT-0006Sf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:06:03 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c2f190$ee4c2ef0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <000401c2f17e$b55f7320$a5d0fc3e@ian> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:07:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 137.773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. The G3YXM pip-squeak beacon will be on from 0400 on .7747 again tonight. Dave G3YXM. > Now that I have got things more or less 'automated' I shall also be > transmitting QRSS60 from about 0430 Monday 24th about 1 Hz below Laurie on > 137.773 plus or minus. > > Ian MI0AYZ > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15294 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 21:07:03 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 21:07:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 463 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Mar 2003 21:07:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 21:07:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18xCfh-0005Qg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:06:25 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.14] (helo=dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xCfc-0005QX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:06:21 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 93651821 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:05:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c2f180$ec380f40$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <000401c2f17e$b55f7320$a5d0fc3e@ian> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:12:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 137.773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ian, Laurie, et al: I'll be monitoring. Captures at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2643 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 20:58:25 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 20:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 27811 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 20:58:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 20:58:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18xCVu-0005J7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:56:18 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xCVp-0005Iy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:56:13 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.165]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030323205612.KFVH22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:56:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c2f17e$b55f7320$a5d0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:54:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Now that I have got things more or less 'automated' I shall also be transmitting QRSS60 from about 0430 Monday 24th about 1 Hz below Laurie on 137.773 plus or minus. Ian MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1684 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 11:35:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 11:35:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 27377 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Mar 2003 11:35:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 11:35:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18x3kP-0003Pn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:34:41 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.171] (helo=cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18x3kK-0003Pe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:34:36 +0000 Received: from modem-121.new-mexico.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.82.121] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18x3kJ-000705-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:34:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2f130$38226e60$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:25:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.774 Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, I noted that the Kp index had dropped after the flares etc of last week so now might be an interesting time for some more T/A ,trans Arctic tests. I actually transmitted this morning from 05:30 on the offchance that someone might be listening. I will go again tonight/tomorrow so long as the index stays down. My frequency 137,774. 3 +/- a bit, will stick with QRS 60 . 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31619 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 08:41:36 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 08:41:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 25198 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 08:41:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 08:41:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18x0yK-0002nK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:36:52 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18x0yF-0002nB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:36:47 +0000 Received: from modem-95.baragund.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.134.95] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18x0yE-0003n5-IN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:36:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2f117$61042a80$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <000801c2f0bd$4cc10ac0$c4d0fc3e@ian> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:36:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 73k portable activity starting next weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: LF: Re: 73k portable activity starting next weekend > Came out of the krankenhaus on Thursday with another patch on the old > bodywork and instructions to get back to normal life asap, so definitely > count me in for skeds on the 73KHz side of all the /P operations! > > 73 de, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ > > Ian, Glad you managed to escape ! Hope to hear/see you together with Dave and Derek /P. 73 Laurie. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5243 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 21:58:56 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 21:58:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24513 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Mar 2003 21:58:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 21:58:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wqu0-0007sy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:51:44 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wqtw-0007sp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:51:40 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.196]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030322215139.GCOF27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:51:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2f0bd$4cc10ac0$c4d0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:48:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73k portable activity starting next weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Came out of the krankenhaus on Thursday with another patch on the old bodywork and instructions to get back to normal life asap, so definitely count me in for skeds on the 73KHz side of all the /P operations! 73 de, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28240 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 17:09:40 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 17:09:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21566 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Mar 2003 17:09:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 17:09:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wmUC-0006vG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:08:48 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wmU7-0006v7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:08:43 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18wmU7-0000Ax-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:08:43 +0000 Message-ID: <005901c2f095$dda003c0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:09:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73k portable activity starting next weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. Myself, G0MRF and G3GRO are all heading off in (slightly) different directions next weekend with the intention of operating on 73kHz (and 136). I am going to the usual GM QTH in SW Scotland (IO75WC, 55:05:27N, 4:04:36W, Grid Ref: NX675793) from Friday to Monday, David G0MRF is going a little further north and will operate from Sunday to Tuesday (to take in "first Tuesday" Rugby shutdown) and Derek G3GRO is going in completely the opposite direction to operate from Porth Curno in Cornwall from Monday. If all goes well we should be able to make the first G/GM and GM/GM contacts on 73k plus other interesting firsts. We will all have QRSS equipment. ------------------------------------------------------ Here is David's info re his trip........... David will be operating as GM0MRF from Scotland on 136kHz and 73kHz from mid-morning on Sunday 30th to the afternoon of Tuesday 1st April. Modes will include CW, QRSS and crossband to 80 / 40 /20m as appropriate. Overnight QRSS on 137.772kHz will take place, propagation allowing. Nominal frequency for 73k will be 71.905kHz Location: Apx 20km East of the town of Ayr. NGR NS 476 209 Lat / Long: N 55:27:32 W 004: 24:41 The site is the home of Simon GM4PLM. There is an area apx 750m x 750m available together with a 24m high tower at one end of the property. A good antenna should not be a problem but the local ground is rocky and should be considered poor. 800 W will be used on 136k and 350W on 73k skeds are welcome at g0mrf@aol.com. David's mobile number is 07958 502540 will be in use over the period. A landline phone number (daytime) and limited access to the reflector may be possible but needs to be confirmed. -------------------------------------------------- Derek's information follows.............. I am planning to spend a week down in Cornwall on holiday from Sat.29th March at my Brother' place in Porth Curno. This is very close to the historic Cable and Wireless Museum and I hope to take 73Khz gear with me. I have been in touch with John Packer who is a Honary Curator at the museum and who is part of an active ham radio group based at the museum. They have a new shack at the museum and he is arranging for some members of the group to help me put up an antenna for 73Khz on Monday 31st March so I hope to be QRV from that evening onwards. The timing was in part intended to take advantage of any possible down-time of the Rugby TX on the first Tuesday of April. The gear hopefully will be the 1Kw RF output ex-Decca TX that Laurie had until recently on loan from the Crawley club and something like 200ft min of antenna wire running up to a mast on the lip of the valley. It is also hoped use as earth, the under-sea return wire of the submarine cable which still runs out to sea for some distance! I have quite a bit of work to do yet to commission a new (to me that is) lap-top to run QRSS/Argo and interface it with the FT1000MP transceiver running at 7.3Mhz via 100-1 divider as at Puckeridge so fingers crossed it all works and I can get the wire loaded up without any flashes and bangs! I hope to advise a mobile phone number later for talk-back. I will suggest a probable operating frequency later via the LF reflector after taking advice. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8484 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 09:06:33 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 09:06:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 2778 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Mar 2003 09:06:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 09:06:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wewO-0004u8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:05:24 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wewJ-0004tz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:05:19 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030322090519.OXWQ310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:05:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2f052$5c342160$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <000601c2f033$e413b3d0$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:06:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > I originally thought that 137.7000 kHz was clear of QRM in this corner of > the world, however lots of capture time on trying to find a UA9OC signal > (with success on 13 March) found a weak QRM typically 0.35 Hz higher than > where I think is spot on 137.7000 kHz. > So my suggestion for selecting frequencies for long haul DX between amateur > stations is to avoid multiples of 50 or 60 Hz (50 Hz mains being used in > some regions, 60 Hz in others). 137.7100 kHz is an example of being clear > of 50 Hz harmonics, whereas 137.7000 kHz is dicing with the 2754th harmonic > of 50 Hz, plus or minus some tolerance for the national grid. > 73, Bob I can confirm that 137.71000 is clear in the UK, but the situation varies around the world because of various Loran systems, and spurious emissions and mixes from commercials. In practice, even a 120s dot window has a viewable width of 1.5Hz so the real answer is for a DXpedition to be precise about its frequency (which can be advertised in advance and objected to, if necessary) and for callers to spread out. A pre-posted, or live, screen shot will show callers which frequencies to avoid. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2219 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5283 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wbYu-0003tx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:28:56 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wbYo-0003tk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:28:51 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030322052816.XBNG14069.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:16 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.54.225.214]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030322052815.WKXO20272.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:15 +1200 Message-ID: <000601c2f033$e413b3d0$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:09:32 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I originally thought that 137.7000 kHz was clear of QRM in this corner of the world, however lots of capture time on trying to find a UA9OC signal (with success on 13 March) found a weak QRM typically 0.35 Hz higher than where I think is spot on 137.7000 kHz. I'm still not sure where the QRM comes from. Luckily the UA9OC signal was offset slightly, but it was luck. I did a full night checking on 137.7100 kHz, with Argo on 120 second dot length, and that was genuinely "clean". I can't help thinking that the QRM is harmonic content of mains frequency, and there are lots of peak rectifiers in domestic use, and the likes of TV sets, VCRs and microwave ovens run with mains live, to keep the clocks going. When I listen in AM mode, I hear "mains hash" over all the LF band. If you can hear mains hash (in AM mode), then Mr Fourier has good advice about where the (highest density) spectral lines are. So my suggestion for selecting frequencies for long haul DX between amateur stations is to avoid multiples of 50 or 60 Hz (50 Hz mains being used in some regions, 60 Hz in others). 137.7100 kHz is an example of being clear of 50 Hz harmonics, whereas 137.7000 kHz is dicing with the 2754th harmonic of 50 Hz, plus or minus some tolerance for the national grid. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31344 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12026 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wbZ1-0003u7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:29:03 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.145] (helo=mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wbYs-0003tl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:28:55 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030322052822.PRQU15385.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:22 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.54.225.214]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030322052821.WKYL20272.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:21 +1200 Message-ID: <000701c2f033$e7c8a580$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Argo and Windows version Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Some time back I had a lot of difficulty with "clouds" forming when Argo was set to dot lengths over 30 seconds. I has Windows 95 as an operating system. I tried changes to sound cards, to no avail. I recently tried an upgrade to Windows 98, and that now gives thin lines for 120 second dot seting, for a pure tone fed to the sound card. So my advice for trying long dot lengths with Argo is to avoid using Windows 95. Windows 98 is likely to give good results, also with consistent frequency calibration. The most recent Windows operating systems use the AC-97 protocol for control of sound cards, for which specific sampling rate is "outside operator control". This can give initial errors in displayed frequency of the order of 2%, but that can be reliably corrected using the Argo calibration facility. Once calibrated, the detailed (horizontal roll-out) displays have good (crystal like) frequency accuracy and stability, however the wideband (vertical roll-out) display shows twice the error compared to before calibration was applied. Summary: 1. Dont bother with Windows 95 for long dot lengths 2. Argo works very well under Windows 98 3. Things that go on inside recent Windows are hard to fathom 4. Keep taking the tablets 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7080 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2003 09:15:26 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Mar 2003 09:15:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 29327 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2003 09:15:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Mar 2003 09:15:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wIVS-0006La-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:08:06 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wIVN-0006LD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:08:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD14B633 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:07:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2884B5FA for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:07:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E9E38007D for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:07:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030321093918.01834d60@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:08:10 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <196204469165.20030320181102@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Re: UA9 expedition and DX operating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello group, just some ideas regarding the optimalisation of QRS speed for long distance tests (skeds) : 1. DFCW will speed up things by a factor 3 2. For QRSS with rather long dotlengths (10-30 sec.) and using "full break-in" it should be possible to indicate when the other station can increase speed (or has to decrease). It could be agreed that sending a "dot" just above the TX frequency means "speed up" while sending a carrier just below means "speed down". An example : Assume a sked between M0BMU and UA9OC, both starting at 30 sec./dot. M0BMU transmitting on 137770.0Hz and UA9OC transmitting on 137772.0Hz. Next assume that M0BMU starts transmitting his own call. If UA9OC receives the "M0" at good strength he could transmit a 30 sec. dot on 137770.2Hz during the pause between the "0" and "B" (that pause takes 180 sec. at 30 sec/dot, so a 30 sec. dot fits in well) . M0BMU know that he can speed up to 10 sec/dot (starting with the next character "B"). Now M0BMU is transmitting at 10 sec/dot but later the QSO propagation is fainting, UA9OC can indicate that by sending a 30 sec. dot on 137769.8Hz so M0BMU knows that he has to go back to 30 sec/dot (the 30 sec. "indicator" just fits in a pause at 10 sec/dot). I know that the above sounds a bit complicated, but it would allow an optimal "use of propagation". 73, Rik ON7YD At 20:25 20/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Ed and friends, LF Group, > >Thanks for sending the report of your UA9 expedition. It was very exciting >to see the first LF signals from Asia. In spite of the problems, achieving >the first Asia - Europe QSOs and successfully being received in, and >receiving signals from, ZL means it was a great achievement; I look >forward to the next time! > >The UA9 - G propagation seems to be quite similar to what we experience >during the transatlantic tests - occasionally the propagation is >excellent, and a QSO is possible with quite fast speeds. But sometimes you >see no signals for several days, which is really frustrating, especially >if you are on an expedition. With the recent X-class solar flares, it is a >good thing you were in Siberia last week and not this week! > >As far as I know, there have only ever been a handful of successful QSOs >using QRSS30 before last week, so we are still all learning how to do >this. Operation with QRSS30 and longer dot lengths is difficult because it >takes such a long time, and there is always a danger that propagation will >disappear before the QSO is finished. So it is important to use a >procedure that uses the smallest number of characters. But at the same >time, there has to be at least the exchange of callsigns and signal >reports to make it into a "proper" QSO. A problem with inventing new >procedures is informing all the stations that the new procedure exists. It >is not easy for stations who do not have internet access, or do not speak >much English, so there is always going to be some confusion unless the >procedure is kept very simple. I think using procedure signals for sending >faster and slower might help sometimes, but the problem is that the QSO >has to start with both stations sending slowly to be sure they can copy >each other - so they can only speed up after the first 2 overs, by which >time more than 50% of the QSO is complete,and so not much time is saved. >If one station has a higher ERP than all the others, as Ed did, it would >make sense for that station to send faster. I guess about 1/3 the dot >duration would be right (3s/10s, 10s/30s etc) - even if faster sending was >possible for one station, it would not make much difference to the total >QSO time. > >It is quite common to see stations doubling with each other, which wastes >a lot of time at QRSS30. A good way to avoid that is to use break-in. >Rik's QRS software allows you to receive between characters and/or >elements, which enables you to see if you are doubling, or if you are on >the same frequency as someone else, which saves a lot of time. I guess it >would be quite easy to do this with other keying methods too. > >I agree with ZL2CA that there seems to be an optimum speed for DX QRSS >contacts. I suppose it varies depending on the particular path. Too short >a dot length, and the probability of the propagation ever being good >enough is very low. Too long a dot length, and the chances of a >propagation lift lasting long enough for a QSO are small. Also, the number >of stations operating makes a difference, since propagation varies for >each location. Now that we are getting more data from monitoring beacons, >DCF39 etc, it might be possible to analyse the signal strengths >statistically to work out the optimum dot length. Of course, the other >modes we have been testing such as Jason, Wolf and so on are an attempt to >make this balance more favorable - so some DX paths may have to wait until >these are better developed before QSOs are possible. However, for the time >being, QRSS (and DFCW) do have the advantage in that they are much simpler >to get working in the typical LF amateur station, which means more people >can put them into use, and increase the chances of successful contacts. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16510 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 20:34:11 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 20:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3201 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 20:34:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 20:34:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18w6ik-0003GJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:33:02 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w6if-0003GA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:32:58 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18w6cX-0002A9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:26:37 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18w6cM-0002BW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:26:26 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:25:06 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <196204469165.20030320181102@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Re: UA9 expedition and DX operating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Ed and friends, LF Group, Thanks for sending the report of your UA9 expedition. It was very exciting to see the first LF signals from Asia. In spite of the problems, achieving the first Asia - Europe QSOs and successfully being received in, and receiving signals from, ZL means it was a great achievement; I look forward to the next time! The UA9 - G propagation seems to be quite similar to what we experience during the transatlantic tests - occasionally the propagation is excellent, and a QSO is possible with quite fast speeds. But sometimes you see no signals for several days, which is really frustrating, especially if you are on an expedition. With the recent X-class solar flares, it is a good thing you were in Siberia last week and not this week! As far as I know, there have only ever been a handful of successful QSOs using QRSS30 before last week, so we are still all learning how to do this. Operation with QRSS30 and longer dot lengths is difficult because it takes such a long time, and there is always a danger that propagation will disappear before the QSO is finished. So it is important to use a procedure that uses the smallest number of characters. But at the same time, there has to be at least the exchange of callsigns and signal reports to make it into a "proper" QSO. A problem with inventing new procedures is informing all the stations that the new procedure exists. It is not easy for stations who do not have internet access, or do not speak much English, so there is always going to be some confusion unless the procedure is kept very simple. I think using procedure signals for sending faster and slower might help sometimes, but the problem is that the QSO has to start with both stations sending slowly to be sure they can copy each other - so they can only speed up after the first 2 overs, by which time more than 50% of the QSO is complete,and so not much time is saved. If one station has a higher ERP than all the others, as Ed did, it would make sense for that station to send faster. I guess about 1/3 the dot duration would be right (3s/10s, 10s/30s etc) - even if faster sending was possible for one station, it would not make much difference to the total QSO time. It is quite common to see stations doubling with each other, which wastes a lot of time at QRSS30. A good way to avoid that is to use break-in. Rik's QRS software allows you to receive between characters and/or elements, which enables you to see if you are doubling, or if you are on the same frequency as someone else, which saves a lot of time. I guess it would be quite easy to do this with other keying methods too. I agree with ZL2CA that there seems to be an optimum speed for DX QRSS contacts. I suppose it varies depending on the particular path. Too short a dot length, and the probability of the propagation ever being good enough is very low. Too long a dot length, and the chances of a propagation lift lasting long enough for a QSO are small. Also, the number of stations operating makes a difference, since propagation varies for each location. Now that we are getting more data from monitoring beacons, DCF39 etc, it might be possible to analyse the signal strengths statistically to work out the optimum dot length. Of course, the other modes we have been testing such as Jason, Wolf and so on are an attempt to make this balance more favorable - so some DX paths may have to wait until these are better developed before QSOs are possible. However, for the time being, QRSS (and DFCW) do have the advantage in that they are much simpler to get working in the typical LF amateur station, which means more people can put them into use, and increase the chances of successful contacts. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18638 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 27578 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 15:17:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18w1i7-0001rn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:12:03 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w1i1-0001re-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:11:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 8933 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 11:33:25 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 11:33:25 +0300 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:11:02 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <196204469165.20030320181102@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #3 Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group! #3 (1320z, 20 Mar, 2003) DXpedition's Report MAR 10 19z (0100 local time) Vic UA9OC and Ed RU6LA have arrived in MO94TK, abt 220km from Novosibirsk to South-West (on a bad winter road abt 330km), nr village Dovolnoe (in translation "Pleased" ;-)) to South abt 5km Co-ordinates abt 54 29' N 79 39'E (Dovolnoe) Temperature abt -25 C AVG SunSet 1230z SunRise 0100z MAR 11 Temperature at day -3..5 C, very sunny, thickness of snow 0.5...1m Have begun to do BigVertical II and abt 15z finished abt 2km BV to Eu On TS-850 S-meter without ATT and preselector (1IF 500Hz, 2IF 250Hz filters) at 17z DCF39/Noise S 9+10dB/ 1-2 - excellent! Night Mar 11-12 - best propagation under DXpedition's times ;-(( Since 17z first Argo's files (on G3YXM site: http://www.wireless.org.uk/index.htm) : RU6LWZ O FB in 3s mode (2904km) 1800z first DX - OH5UFO O FB in 10s mode (3303km) 1940z DK1IS O in 30s mode (4493km) 2100z OK1DTN - O in 3s mode!!! (4214km) UA6LV is possible manages on the phone to us - I ask to give the message in DXcluster abt OH5UFO DK1IS OK1DTN signals in MO94TK 2130z M0BMU - O in 10s mode (5047km) later M0BMU O in 30s mode I saw also some weak signals (not indificated) MAR 12 10z finished Big Vertical II (see Dave's site) ANT current 3-3,5A with 60-80w Output But techical problems till MAR 13 (not amateur radio ;-(( We give periodically short signals (push key) Not 120s Beacon test for ZL ;-(( Since 16z RA9MB O in 3-10s mode Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10s mode 2320z QSO RA9MB O/O 10s mode (400km) - First UA-UA QSO more 100km distance in QRSS I saw also some weak signals MAR 13 0z RU6LWZ O/O First Europe-Asia QSO and first UA9-UA Eu in QRSS 0030 UA6LO O/O 1300z DCF39/N S 7/4 1430 - 1830z beacon QRSS120 137.700 ("UA9OC") 19z RA9MB O/O agn Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2000z DCF39/N S 9/4 2350z DCF39/N S 9+5dB /4 I saw also some weak signals MAR 14 0020z DCF39/N S 9+10dB/2 0130z 7/1 1330 finished abt 2km BV to ZL 1330 nill on 137.700 1430 send "NN" for ZL6QH nill 1530 QRSS120 "UA9OC" 1740-1830 M copy ZL6QH (.6Q...) (13870km?) Bob ZL2CA info abt co-ordinates ZL6QH: 174 degrees 41 minutes 46 seconds East 41 degrees 15 minutes 10 seconds South This is RE79IG in my soft ?? I have no the Internet and communication on HF with UA6LV Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2130 IK5ZPV O/O 10s mode - not S (4919km) First UA9-I 2200 DCF39/N S 7-8/3 2300 9/2 MAR 15 0050 M0BMU O/M 30s mode First UA9-G and best UA's distance 0120 RU6LWZ 559/559 First Europe-Asia and UA9-UA Eu in CW 0130 UA6LV 559/449 1430 QRSS120 "NN" for ZL6QH nill Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 30s mode 1900 DCF39/N S 9/1-2 2000 7/1-2 2135 QSX 136/3.5 UA9ZAG 559/599 NO30BR MAR 16 abt 0110z IK5ZPV O/O 30s mode (1:2 dot:dash) 0110 OH5UFO O/M 30s first UA9-OH 0115z DCF39/N S 4-5/2 We dismantle BVs and Big Vertical II Abt 10z we have gone away to Novosibirsk OFF My conclusions: - at good propagation (as was March 11-12) it is possible to carry out QSO EU-AS at QRSS10 with 1w ERP (distance abt 5000km) - at average propagation the maximum him is observed about 2 hours to SunRise - it is not enough for long QRSS and at a usual QSO format - it is necessary to work QRSS30 QSX not less 3Hz (for DX) - in QRSS30 between stations should be not less 0.5Hz (for DX and at good stability). How many it was necessary in Europe? - to begin TX it is necessary only after dash + 1 or 2 dot of a pause (after ending TX of your correspondent, if not another is stipulated beforehand - see long QSO format) - at different ERP(my abt 10-20w and other 1w, for example), more powerful station should work shorter QRSS. But how it to inform the correspondent? Can give at QRSS30(for example) the report OA (O in 10 - 1 step down) or OW(O in 3 - 2 step down)? And other party passes in 10 or 3. Any idea? - for long QRSS(30-120) it is necessary to change a QSO format. It was necessary ~ so (on an example UA9OC-ZL6QH QRSS120): Mar 12-13 UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC Mar 14 1230-1410z ZL6QH ZL6QH (QH) 1430-1524 MMM or NNNN (OC) 1530-1620 MMMMM or ZL6QH if OC NNNN(QH) 1630-1720 RRR or NNNN (OC) 1730-1820 RRRRRR or GGGGG (Go AGN? ?? for DFCW) (QH) Mar 15 1230-1325 EEEEEEEE (OC) 1330-1430 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (QH) I.e. to apply 1 hour periods TX/RX and no need to send any callsign after the first over, they can be identified by their frequency once the QSO is established. At QRSS30 it is possible to apply 20-30 minute periods What will tell about such Long QRSS QSO format? - it is necessary to use DFCW, but thus to increase a site between stations. I can not work DFCW (FSK F1) - in my license only A1 ;-(( TNX all who informed me about our signal and give me beacon tests ! Let's meet all in our next LF UA6-activites and DXpeditions ! LF UA9OC Special QSL Info (special QSL-card for 1 and 2-way QSO) : Ed Lesnichy P.O. Box 1 TAGANROG, 347900 RUSSIA 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11349 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 13:22:23 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 13:22:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (qmail 18497 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Mar 2003 13:22:23 -0000 Received: from nort.infotecstt.ru (HELO relay.dx.ru) (80.68.3.204) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 13:22:09 -0000 X-Fake-HELO: relay.dx.ru X-SQ: B Received: (qmail 6396 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 09:43:15 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 09:43:15 +0300 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:20:51 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Reply-To: "Ed Lesnichy" Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <166197857045.20030320162051@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Pick" Subject: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #3 Report In-reply-to: <90468391588.20030303205731@dx.ru> References: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> <196171825272.20030212174320@dx.ru> <90468391588.20030303205731@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090903070809070401070808" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090903070809070401070808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello LF Group! #3 (1320z, 20 Mar, 2003) DXpedition's Report MAR 10 19z (0100 local time) Vic UA9OC and Ed RU6LA have arrived in MO94TK, abt 220km from Novosibirsk to South-West (on a bad winter road abt 330km), nr village Dovolnoe (in translation "Pleased" ;-)) to South abt 5km Co-ordinates abt 54 29' N 79 39'E (Dovolnoe) Temperature abt -25 C AVG SunSet 1230z SunRise 0100z MAR 11 Temperature at day -3..5 C, very sunny, thickness of snow 0.5...1m Have begun to do BigVertical II and abt 15z finished abt 2km BV to Eu On TS-850 S-meter without ATT and preselector (1IF 500Hz, 2IF 250Hz filters) at 17z DCF39/Noise S 9+10dB/ 1-2 - excellent! Night Mar 11-12 - best propagation under DXpedition's times ;-(( Since 17z first Argo's files: RU6LWZ O FB in 3s mode (2904km) 1800z first DX - OH5UFO O FB in 10s mode (3303km) 1940z DK1IS O in 30s mode (4493km) 2100z OK1DTN - O in 3s mode!!! (4214km) UA6LV is possible manages on the phone to us - I ask to give the message in DXcluster abt OH5UFO DK1IS OK1DTN signals in MO94TK 2130z M0BMU - O in 10s mode (5047km) later M0BMU O in 30s mode I saw also some weak signals (not indificated) MAR 12 10z finished Big Vertical II ANT current 3-3,5A with 60-80w Output But techical problems till MAR 13 (not amateur radio ;-(( We give periodically short signals (push key) Not 120s Beacon test for ZL ;-(( Since 16z RA9MB O in 3-10s mode Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10s mode 2320z QSO RA9MB O/O 10s mode (400km) - First UA-UA QSO more 100km distance in QRSS I saw also some weak signals MAR 13 0z RU6LWZ O/O First Europe-Asia QSO and first UA9-UA Eu in QRSS 0030 UA6LO O/O 1300z DCF39/N S 7/4 1430 - 1830z beacon QRSS120 137.700 ("UA9OC") 19z RA9MB O/O agn Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2000z DCF39/N S 9/4 2350z DCF39/N S 9+5dB /4 I saw also some weak signals MAR 14 0020z DCF39/N S 9+10dB/2 0130z 7/1 1330 finished abt 2km BV to ZL 1330 nill on 137.700 1430 send "NN" for ZL6QH nill 1530 QRSS120 "UA9OC" 1740-1830 M copy ZL6QH (.6Q...) (13870km?) Bob ZL2CA info abt co-ordinates ZL6QH: 174 degrees 41 minutes 46 seconds East 41 degrees 15 minutes 10 seconds South This is RE79IG in my soft ?? I have no the Internet and communication on HF with UA6LV Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2130 IK5ZPV O/O 10s mode - not S (4919km) First UA9-I 2200 DCF39/N S 7-8/3 2300 9/2 MAR 15 0050 M0BMU O/M 30s mode First UA9-G and best UA's distance 0120 RU6LWZ 559/559 First Europe-Asia and UA9-UA Eu in CW 0130 UA6LV 559/449 1430 QRSS120 "NN" for ZL6QH nill Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 30s mode 1900 DCF39/N S 9/1-2 2000 7/1-2 2135 QSX 136/3.5 UA9ZAG 559/599 NO30BR MAR 16 abt 0000z IK5ZPV O/O 30s mode (1:2 dot:dash) 0000 OH5UFO O/M 30s first UA9-OH 0115z DCF39/N S 4-5/2 We dismantle BVs and Big Vertical II Abt 10z we have gone away to Novosibirsk OFF My conclusions: - at good propagation (as was March 11-12) it is possible to carry out QSO EU-AS at QRSS10 with 1w ERP (distance abt 5000km) - at average propagation the maximum him is observed about 2 hours to SunRise - it is not enough for long QRSS and at a usual QSO format - it is necessary to work QRSS30 QSX not less 3Hz (for DX) - in QRSS30 between stations should be not less 0.5Hz (for DX and at good stability). How many it was necessary in Europe? - to begin TX it is necessary only after dash + 1 or 2 dot of a pause (after ending TX of your correspondent, if not another is stipulated beforehand - see long QSO format) - at different ERP(my abt 10-20w and other 1w, for example), more powerful station should work shorter QRSS. But how it to inform the correspondent? Can give at QRSS30(for example) the report OA (O in 10 - 1 step down) or OW(O in 3 - 2 step down)? And other party passes in 10 or 3. Any idea? - for long QRSS(30-120) it is necessary to change a QSO format. It was necessary ~ so (on an example UA9OC-ZL6QH QRSS120): Mar 12-13 UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC Mar 14 1230-1410z ZL6QH ZL6QH (QH) 1430-1524 MMM or NNNN (OC) 1530-1620 MMMMM or ZL6QH if OC NNNN(QH) 1630-1720 RRR or NNNN (OC) 1730-1820 RRRRRR or GGGGG (Go AGN? ?? for DFCW) (QH) Mar 15 1230-1325 EEEEEEEE (OC) 1330-1430 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (QH) I.e. to apply 1 hour periods TX/RX and no need to send any callsign after the first over, they can be identified by their frequency once the QSO is established. At QRSS30 it is possible to apply 20-30 minute periods What will tell about such Long QRSS QSO format? - it is necessary to use DFCW, but thus to increase a site between stations. I can not work DFCW (FSK F1) - in my license only A1 ;-(( TNX all who informed me about our signal and give me beacon tests ! Let's meet all in our next LF UA6-activites and DXpeditions ! LF UA9OC Special QSL Info (special QSL-card for 1 and 2-way QSO) : Ed Lesnichy P.O. Box 1 TAGANROG, 347900 RUSSIA 73! 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(Exim 4.12) id 18vgn4-0005cP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:51:46 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2JGpeAE031294 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:51:40 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:44:11 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JGeih01168 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:40:44 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:40:42 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/19/2003 10:40:45 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: "Lucky" and the GM expeditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Poor TA (TPol?)overnight from here - but German peak was between 0300-0400Z, which is "usual" when conditions are not so hoppy..... Laurence KL1X snow, very very quiet. www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10479 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 11:58:54 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 11:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10986 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 11:58:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 11:58:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vcBs-0004Ai-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:57:04 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.21] (helo=dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vcBg-0004AS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:56:53 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 61216214 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 06:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c2ee0e$b3f92e40$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01c2ede8$f4737c80$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:57:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: am 19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, et al: Nothing seen on my overnight captures. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3149 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4079 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 10:56:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vbCk-0003ni-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:53:54 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vbCW-0003nX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:53:41 +0000 Received: from dial81-131-216-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.216.223] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18vbCV-0002Bp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:53:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2ee05$b6834aa0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:48:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: "Lucky" and the GM expeditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave "Lucky" say his ancestors used to twitch their whiskers in the cool night desert air ( he's a Las Vegas rabbit ) and stare intently at the stars, and sometimes this made the grass grow. He will try it for you ! Seriously there is a trade off in these conditions, whilst the night-time conditions are poor, daytime signals are often enhanced up to 2000kms or so. 10 days time is a little dicey. I think conditions at night will still be depressed, and for any real chance we would need a straight run of geomagnetically quiet days. That does not look to be "on the cards" (as "Lucky" would say) Good luck with your ventures and let us know the exact dates soon. Cheers de Alan G3NYK (and "Lucky") alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9557 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 09:13:01 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 09:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 10864 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 09:13:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 09:13:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vZcd-0003Du-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:12:31 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vZcQ-0003Dl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:12:18 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.139]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030319091217.VEDG12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:12:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c2edf7$92e3c1a0$8be4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:46:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: TA 18 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Craig" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: LF: TA 18 March > Same here. DCF39 was way down in the noise and a bit hard to hear. > Even the Loran lines were weak. There may have been a trace of > a TA signal but nothing identifiable. Hi Joe. Can you work xband say 7mhz if I fire up on 137 khz. I am interested mostly on normal CW but can tx QRS also. I am not really interested transmitting beacon mode only. de Mal/G3KEV > > Lets hope the ionosphere settles a bit before the summer QRN comes. > > Joe VO1NA > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, John Andrews wrote: > > > It was very noisy here last night, and little was seen other than some > > possible fragments from Brian (or someone else on his customary frequency). > > > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1286 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 08:48:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 08:48:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24982 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 08:48:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 08:48:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vZE4-00034v-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:47:08 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.211] (helo=cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vZDw-00034m-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:47:00 +0000 Received: from modem-19.celeborn.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.146.19] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18vZDv-0001OI-8t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:46:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c2edf4$20eb7460$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:45:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. T/A Tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false During my last period of T/A testing,from 6/3 until 13/3,I recieved reports in inverse proportion to the Kp index , When the index was 1, I receved 3 reports.When it was 2, 2 reports , when it was 3, only 1 report,and when it was 4,no reports! Past experience also indicates that some days after a major event (7 - 21) conditions can be enhanced, see various reports by Alan, but Kp must be low. So I shall be watching things for the next few days and if the index drops below 3, I will again transmit. 73 Laurie G3AQC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22341 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 07:29:38 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 07:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 4816 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 07:29:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 07:29:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vXxZ-0002iB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:26:01 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vXxU-0002i2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:25:56 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18vXxT-0002gM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:25:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2ede8$f4737c80$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:27:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: am 19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It's fine here, not a trace of any signal showing though! Perhaps we shouldn't bother for a few days? Dave G3YXM. > The saga of my web site continues but "domain admin" finally wrote to me > saying Id sent in the wrong form and that the changes will operate within > the next 24-48 hours. So....honest.... www.kl1x.com is up but may take > 48 hours to get worldwide.... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25049 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 06:43:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 06:43:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28458 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Mar 2003 06:43:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 06:43:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vXHm-0002WA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 06:42:50 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vXHh-0002W1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 06:42:45 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2J6giAE026882 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:42:44 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:42:42 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2J6gfO08505 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:42:41 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:44:51 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/19/2003 12:42:42 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: am 19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Very poor TA overnight I can only just see the occasional dot 60 from DCF39. I truly get much higher signal levels during my daylight now. The saga of my web site continues but "domain admin" finally wrote to me saying Id sent in the wrong form and that the changes will operate within the next 24-48 hours. So....honest.... www.kl1x.com is up but may take 48 hours to get worldwide.... if you cant wait for the DNS around to perculate, my fixed IP is 24.237.8.95 Im displaying 4 Argo sessions including one looking for mitch "MP" on 137.780, refreshes are 300 seconds, but Argo caputues are much less often. If you get a blank Argo screen it means Ive lost power due to bad weather...moose eaten power cable etc. -2C Moons up, snow on way. Very quiet on the radio nil QRN from the South.. Laurence KL1X From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2080 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 00:02:08 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 00:02:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7422 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 00:02:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 00:02:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vR1T-0001IF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:01:35 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vR1O-0001Hz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:01:30 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2J01TAE024978 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:01:29 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:01:14 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2INb0O05777 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:37:00 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:36:59 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/18/2003 05:37:00 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: SID Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Strong increase of DCF39 (-70dB on Argo dot 60) started at 2230z 18th and has just dived back into the noise at 2330Z (1430 Alaskan local) Laurence KL1X, Sunny, very -2C From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14695 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 23:54:39 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:54:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 644 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 23:54:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:54:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vQta-00018k-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:53:26 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vQtV-00018b-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:53:22 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2INrFq11180 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:53:15 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:53:55 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <003201c2eda5$3b454f60$1b00a8c0@dellboy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: T/A test tonight? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false They could stare at noise and imagine a signal buried under the snow storm on the ARGO screen shot. Hi Hi... Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pick Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:22 PM To: LF Group Subject: LF: T/A test tonight? Is there any point? Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26693 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 23:54:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15126 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 23:54:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:54:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vQtT-00018X-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:53:19 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vQtO-00018O-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:53:14 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18vQtO-0002iq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:53:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2eda9$b0dcee00$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003201c2eda5$3b454f60$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:54:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A test tonight? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false No reply but I see John has his live grab running so the transmitter will be on from 0400 on 137.7747 QRSS60 100mW erp. Dave G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: LF: T/A test tonight? > Is there any point? > > Dave G3YXM. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5657 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 23:22:02 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:22:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1302 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 23:22:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 23:22:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vQOb-0000yE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:21:25 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vQOW-0000y5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:21:20 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18vQOW-0006v7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:21:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c2eda5$3b454f60$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:22:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A test tonight? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Is there any point? Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14819 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 22:41:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 22:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 19311 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 22:41:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 22:41:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vPhX-0000lj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:36:55 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vPhS-0000la-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:36:50 +0000 Received: from tnt-5-33.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.33] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18vPhQ-00043y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:36:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c2ed9f$7a5578c0$21c828c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006301c2ece3$d470f8a0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:41:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SID Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan Melia > .. the Kp index rose to 6 again for two periods today. This is due to > the high velocity solar wind stream issuing from a coronal hole. However > there was also an Class X1.6 X-ray Flare at 1900z this evening which will > probably produce a CME arriving around Wednesday night or Thursday. Today's > high index will probably keep the ionoshere "stoked up" with "hot" electrons > for some days to come. The effects of the first high Kp on Friday should > just about be showing through on LF tonight. Any effect due to the CME from > the flare will depend upon the direction of plasma's magnetic field > The W3EEE DCF 39 signals are the worst I have seen then since he started monitoring. I have been putting my shack back together after its 'makeover' (the favourite word on TV these days on doing a place up!). I connected the transceiver to the antenna this morning on the 10 metre band which was dead and tested the mini beam antenna, which looked OK. I then checked the other bands and found they were dead - it was like the antenna was disconnected. Some signals came back at 1300z. Has SID been at work? Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4878 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20927 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 12:36:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vGJs-0006pk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:35:52 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vGJb-0006pK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:35:37 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2ICZQ8M028946 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:05:27 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2ICZPdc015359 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:05:25 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2ICZOR3017590; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:05:24 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:05:23 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <001101c2ed45$61a7abe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 18 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Same here. DCF39 was way down in the noise and a bit hard to hear. Even the Loran lines were weak. There may have been a trace of a TA signal but nothing identifiable. Lets hope the ionosphere settles a bit before the summer QRN comes. Joe VO1NA On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, John Andrews wrote: > It was very noisy here last night, and little was seen other than some > possible fragments from Brian (or someone else on his customary frequency). > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30064 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5765 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18vFhJ-0006VP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:56:01 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.19] (helo=mx09.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vFh4-0006Un-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:55:46 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx09.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 89635222 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:55:13 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2ed45$61a7abe0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c2ecb9$05ee3f80$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001701c2ecbd$e59ad9a0$09dc9384@jka> <3E7650A1.93940E4D@att.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:56:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 18 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It was very noisy here last night, and little was seen other than some possible fragments from Brian (or someone else on his customary frequency). John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18036 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 01:21:44 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 01:21:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13015 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 01:21:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 01:21:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v5jZ-0004Pz-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:17:41 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v5jU-0004Pq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:17:36 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2I1HXGf010427 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:17:34 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:17:31 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2I1HUO07756 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:17:30 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:17:29 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/17/2003 07:17:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: T/A propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Not lost DCF39 thruout the day on dot 30. Strong peak at around 2100Z thats midday here.Thats a good sign..... May be. FAA has approved the tower height increase and also ratified a 2W erp figure for 137Khz -....thats a good start,- they are happy I wouldnt be an interference source for the airport/NDB's ..... just need the FCC now..!. the aerials are back up in the trees but I couldn't fling the rope above 70 feet.. Renegade moose massing on the borders. Laurence KL1X, - monitoring 137,772.4 - 773.9 dot 120 (avoid 137,7727 and 8 loran line) 137,698.5 -701.7 dot 60 137 772.4 - 775.6 dot 60 0C dry sunny - no QRN From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19830 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 9305 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v4oK-0004DL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:18:32 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v4oF-0004DC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:18:28 +0000 Received: from host213-122-181-79.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.181.79] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18v4oF-0003YR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:18:27 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c2ece3$d470f8a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:17:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, the Kp index rose to 6 again for two periods today. This is due to the high velocity solar wind stream issuing from a coronal hole. However there was also an Class X1.6 X-ray Flare at 1900z this evening which will probably produce a CME arriving around Wednesday night or Thursday. Today's high index will probably keep the ionoshere "stoked up" with "hot" electrons for some days to come. The effects of the first high Kp on Friday should just about be showing through on LF tonight. Any effect due to the CME from the flare will depend upon the direction of plasma's magnetic field As I do not have any other sources of data at present I would be very interested in any reception and strength of signals from this side compared with say 7 days ago. It is possible that at long dot lengths 1W ERP signals may make the crossing despite the increased absorption. so conditions may not look a lot worse than last week. Remember you have cranked in another 13dB. Normal CFH levels were about 32dBuV bad nights rarely dropped below 20dBuV and really good nights hit 43dBuV (3sec dot crossing at about 0.5W ERP) Good luck form "Lucky" the rabbit's paw. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6519 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 23:34:11 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 23:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11735 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 23:34:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 23:34:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v45k-00042I-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:32:28 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v45f-000429-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:32:23 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18v45a-0005Xf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:32:18 +0000 Message-ID: <008301c2ecdd$9a497c70$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c2ecb9$05ee3f80$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001701c2ecbd$e59ad9a0$09dc9384@jka> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:33:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TA 17 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'll be on from 0400 on 137.7747 +/- my calibration. Kp index is high though... Dave G3YXM. > I'll be monitoring 137.772 - 137.775 after 2300. Captures every 15 mins at: > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg > Looks like quite a bit of lightning activity off the back of my rx loop. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2366 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 22:49:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26867 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 22:49:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v3Op-0003pr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:48:07 +0000 Received: from [166.82.181.250] (helo=dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v3Ok-0003pi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:48:02 +0000 Received: from att.net (computer1 [10.0.252.101]) by dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HMm2C14231 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:48:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3E7650A1.93940E4D@att.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:48:01 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c2ecb9$05ee3f80$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <001701c2ecbd$e59ad9a0$09dc9384@jka> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: TA 17 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false John Andrews wrote: > Looks like quite a bit of lightning activity off the back of my rx loop. That is better than lightning ON you loop! I lost my loop amplifier to a close strike a few days ago. I suspect the 500 feet of coax connecting the loop to the shack is a good lightning antenna. Think I best roll it up for the summer. W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6671 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 19:35:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:35:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7670 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 19:35:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:35:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v0ON-0003CI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:35:27 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v0OF-0003C9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:35:20 +0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2HJZHi03558 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id OAA23069; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:35:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001701c2ecbd$e59ad9a0$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c2ecb9$05ee3f80$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:46:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 17 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, et al: I'll be monitoring 137.772 - 137.775 after 2300. Captures every 15 mins at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg Looks like quite a bit of lightning activity off the back of my rx loop. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19332 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 19:11:20 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:11:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4170 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 19:11:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:11:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18v00C-00033f-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:10:28 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v006-00033W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:10:23 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030317191021.NVRI25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:10:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c2ecb9$05ee3f80$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:11:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 17 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Nil > > Joe VO1NA Not sure anyone was on last night after the exertions of the UA9 activity over the weekend. I shall be transmitting 'XDV' tonight 2200 - 0700 UTC on 137.7732kHz. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5140 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 16:49:57 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 16:49:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3126 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 16:49:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 16:49:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uxhe-0002Ql-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:43:10 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uxhZ-0002Qc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:43:05 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.104]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030317164304.XYBL12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:43:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c2eca4$37bb2b00$68e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030316172840.00a14ce0@mail.pncl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:34:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Positions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.0 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Blanchard" To: Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: LF: Positions > At 16:54 15/03/03 +0000, G3KEV wrote: > > > >Alex I asked for LAT/LON or GRID REF and not LOC. I already have the Loc but > >my prog needs lat/long or grid ref to calculate the distance. > >G3KEV > > > All the info you need to calculate lat/lon from LOC yourself is on pages > 144-145 of > the 2003 edition of the RSGB Yearbook. Just needs a little bit of effort! I do not have this Yearbook and I expect others likewise do not have it. All that I need is the LAT/LONG or actual QTH then I can calculate the distance > > No point asking for "grid ref" because NGR does not extend outside the UK > and I don't know of any ham calculator that accepts the world-wide UTM grid > which is all UA hams could give you. > > There are plenty of free calculators that accept all three systems, even > on-line > ones - see bottom of p.144. Why chase around the Intenet or buy a comic when all one has to do is ask the station concerned what his QTH or LAT/LONG is G3KEV > > Walter G3JKV > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30366 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 16:40:22 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 16:40:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2592 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 16:40:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 16:40:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uxZ8-0002Nk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:34:22 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uxYz-0002Nb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:34:13 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2HGY48M007530 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:04:05 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2HGY4dc007292 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:04:04 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h2HGY0rn020071; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:04:00 -0330 (NST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:03:59 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <000f01c2e9c6$8ad97a20$0200a8c0@charter.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 17 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nil Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25023 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 15:46:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 15:46:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17389 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 15:46:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 15:46:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uwnb-00026J-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:45:15 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uwnV-00026A-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:45:09 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2HFj7AE006068 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:45:07 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:45:04 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HFj2O03492 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:45:02 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:44:54 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/17/2003 09:45:03 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: Weather Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >From Laurence KL1x Anchorage. Back from whirlwind trip to the UK. Anchorage in my absence had 4 days with winds on excess of 100 mph with gusts over 111 Mph and caused power and water outages together with millions of dollars of damage in the downtown and airport areas (within a mile of me) Im on an elevated location above the airport but perhaps the forest protected me a bit and Ive come home to find 1 foot diameter trees cut off at the base littering the driveway and contorted bushes. Luckily (dont ask me how) the LPA, rotator and 6m beam surv ived. The Inv U for 137 came down out of the tree at the far end and sheared a 600 pounds b/s rope. Upshot of the antennae and power outages I have no decent records of the ZL /UA tests. Ho humm - the system should be back in the trees later today and Im going to modify it back to an Inv L again after discussions with Peter LDO.. I have one comment on DFCW - from my limited experiences we wouldn't want to go any closer than 0.2Hz - on some polar paths I get that sort of "blurring" due to (sic) Doppler. I wouldn't expect it on the KL/ZL path under quiet condx. I concur that a cold dry coil is a happy coil! Laurence, jetlagged. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25566 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 11:08:05 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 11:08:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14566 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 11:08:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 11:08:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18usSO-0000v5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:07:04 +0000 Received: from [165.254.4.18] (helo=mail.mcf.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18usSI-0000us-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:06:59 +0000 Received: from w2ksn (192.55.122.104) by mail.mcf.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2b6) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:06:54 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c2ec74$7fe48780$687a37c0@w2ksn> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E74A1D4.8050708@verizon.net> <009101c2ec5b$4a92a9e0$b932f7c2@a7j7r2> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 03:01:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: The myth of interference ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.0 required=5.0tests=NO_COST,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John and all, I agree that David Weinberger has done a poor job on this article. I don't think that he is confused; he's writing to entertain, not to inform. IMO, most of his examples have serious flaws: Sure, if many stations are simultaneously sending "green", a smart receiver (telescope) can easily separate them. But optical frequencies are unsuitable for most applications, because of line-of-sight limitations, effects of weather, etc. At UHF, such separation is much more difficult. IMO, if broadcast licenses were free, what's on the air would not change very much. Broadcasting to a large audience entails the high costs of real estate, equipment, and energy, and, depending on what is being transmitted, expensive content, talent, and/or production. The license is just the tip of the iceberg. Much of the value of Caller ID is that it cannot be easily forged, because it is originated by the network. The Internet does not now have reliable "Caller ID", which is why hackers can wreak so much havoc by spoofing IP addresses. The GNU radio example merely shows the ability to decode and play two FM broadcast stations simultaneously from one A/D converter output (contrary to Mr. Weinberger's statement, the stations must be on different frequencies, ). However, I do agree with David Reed that smart radios could improve spectrum utilization by a factor of ten or more. This could mean that, rather that being a scarce resource auctioned for obscene prices, spectrum would be available at little or no cost to those who wanted it. Some techniques to accomplish this include CDMA, diversity reception, spatial multiplexing, user terminals as relays, more effective Tx power controls, and better efficiency of source and channel coding. There was an article addressing some of these points in the October 2002 issue of RF Design. See http://rfdesign.com/ar/radio_designing_mimo_systems_2/index.htm IMO, the fault is not just with the regulators. IS-95 CDMA makes much better use of spectrum than GSM. Why is it not more widely used? Politics, and intellectual property issues. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rabson" To: Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: LF: Re: The myth of interference ? > The author seems to be confusing "interference" in the sense a physicist > would use the term (that is, interaction between photons or electromagnetic > waves in a fundamental sense) and the sense in which a radio engineer would > use it (disturbance of one radio transmission system by another). > > If I have understood him correctly, he seems also to be suggesting that > there is an infinite amount of transmission bandwidth available. Not so in a > strict sense, but if you go to a high enough carrier frequency and cover a > sufficiently limited geographical area you may be able to get enough for > your purposes without disrupting other services. > > Or have I totally misunderstood the whole thing? > > John Rabson G3PAI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre Kesteloot" > To: "AMRAD Tacos l" ; "lf-amrad" ; > "rsgb_lf_group" > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:09 PM > Subject: LF: The myth of interference ? > > > > > > > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/03/12/spectrum/index.html?x > > > > André N4ICK > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13606 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2003 08:03:49 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 08:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18453 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Mar 2003 08:03:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 08:03:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18upWv-0008Ug-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:59:33 +0000 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk ident=mail) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18upWq-0008UX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:59:28 +0000 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18upWp-0002i0-00 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:59:27 +0000 Received: from a7j7r2 (bts-0697.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.185]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4.sec) with SMTP id h2H7xPFF000586 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:59:26 GMT Message-ID: <009101c2ec5b$4a92a9e0$b932f7c2@a7j7r2> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E74A1D4.8050708@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:00:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: The myth of interference ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The author seems to be confusing "interference" in the sense a physicist would use the term (that is, interaction between photons or electromagnetic waves in a fundamental sense) and the sense in which a radio engineer would use it (disturbance of one radio transmission system by another). If I have understood him correctly, he seems also to be suggesting that there is an infinite amount of transmission bandwidth available. Not so in a strict sense, but if you go to a high enough carrier frequency and cover a sufficiently limited geographical area you may be able to get enough for your purposes without disrupting other services. Or have I totally misunderstood the whole thing? John Rabson G3PAI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Kesteloot" To: "AMRAD Tacos l" ; "lf-amrad" ; "rsgb_lf_group" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: LF: The myth of interference ? > > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/03/12/spectrum/index.html?x > > André N4ICK > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4487 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 23:29:58 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 23:29:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28227 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Mar 2003 23:29:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 23:29:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uhYM-0006ZK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:28:30 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.111] (helo=cmsrelay02.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uhYG-0006ZB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:28:24 +0000 Received: from uadvg137.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.137) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 23:27:52 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.17] by uadvg137.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 647HcPXbU0118M37; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:27:46 GMT Message-ID: <3E750538.8040907@usa.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:14:00 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E74C32D.8020709@usa.net> Subject: Re: LF: Playing with Pspice Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000805090505050303080209" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.4 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000805090505050303080209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Regarding my previous post, Stewart Nelson objected that maybe the circuit
wasn't correct, as, if V1 is a voltage source, it has zero impedance, thus making
R1 and C1 useless.
He was right, so I modified the circuit as below, putting R1 in series with the
voltage source, so to simulate a real-world source with 50 ohm impedance,
and recomputed the Bode plot, which is substantially unchanged.

Thanks Stewart

73  Alberto I2PHD

P.S. In case someone will build it, of course R1 and R2 are not real components
of the filter, they are there just to represent the source and load impedances for
a correct computation.



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Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:35:18 +0000 Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.138) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 18:35:07 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.11.130] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 038HcPsjB0229M38; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:35:02 GMT Message-ID: <3E74C32D.8020709@usa.net> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:32:13 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LF Mailing List" Subject: LF: Playing with Pspice Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010606020906010300050509" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_AREA_05,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010606020906010300050509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all,
  today I fired up Pspice, just to see if I remembered how to use
it, and somehow came up with a lowpass circuit for 137 Khz, which
uses standard value components, and has 50 ohm input and output
impedance. It is flat from 0 to 138 kHz, and exhibits about 60 dB
of attenuation at 300 kHz.

In case someone is interested, here is the schematic and the
Bode plot, also with a couple of cursors to measure the
attenuation values.

73  Alberto  I2PHD





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rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:40:17 +0000 Received: from [212.35.226.183] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uc7I-0004x4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:40:12 +0000 Received: from k7t.pncl.co.uk (202.234.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.234.202]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4+) with ESMTP id h2GHeAJp015502 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:40:11 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030316172840.00a14ce0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:39:39 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" In-reply-to: <000c01c2eb1d$41a7f360$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Positions Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060307010405040902060908" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060307010405040902060908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 16:54 15/03/03 +0000, G3KEV wrote: >Alex I asked for LAT/LON or GRID REF and not LOC. I already have the Loc but >my prog needs lat/long or grid ref to calculate the distance. >G3KEV All the info you need to calculate lat/lon from LOC yourself is on pages 144-145 of the 2003 edition of the RSGB Yearbook. Just needs a little bit of effort! No point asking for "grid ref" because NGR does not extend outside the UK and I don't know of any ham calculator that accepts the world-wide UTM grid which is all UA hams could give you. There are plenty of free calculators that accept all three systems, even on-line ones - see bottom of p.144. Walter G3JKV --------------060307010405040902060908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="ATT11914.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ATT11914.txt" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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The weekend was hectic with QRS acty all active around the same frequency of 137.7 Khz. Condx were excellent and signals from most very strong and I was able to see UA9OC as early as 1858 utc solid OOO copy and also able to hear him aurally.
There could be some merit in a BANDPLAN to separate the dx from local EU working.
Split freq working an advantage, using the bottom end of the band 135.9 khz for EU and the top end 137.7 khz for DX.
Going up beyond 137.7 khz could be a problem because of the close proximity of DCF and desensing of the RX.especially those with large antennas.
At times over the weekend OH5UFO was getting dangerously close to UA9OC about 5 hz away. The problem being that Reno was S9 plus with me and called CQ all evening, didnt even take a breath !!!!!!!!!!!! and spilling over towards OC.
YU7AR was very strong compared to previous observations, maybe a bigger antenna or better than average condx over this weekend. 
At the times I watched UA9OC there was no evidence of fading/QSB as observed by some, he was solid copy all the time.
There was very little normal CW acty but did hear a couple of stns active. 
When the USA boys get going on 136 khz and  the band gets cluttered with DX from East and West it might be a good time now to get some sort of Bandplan sorted out, and avoid chaos later. 
de Mal/G3KEV
   
 
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 André N4ICK

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17864 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 10:38:27 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 10:38:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 14077 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 10:38:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 10:38:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uVVZ-0002yr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:49 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uVVU-0002yi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:44 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030316103638.ZLUI11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:38 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2eba8$274ebd60$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001301c2eba0$107f0610$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:38:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: UA9OC last night Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070003010308090606090300" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070003010308090606090300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Just looking through the grabs from last night. Only one fuzzy appearance of > UA9OC last night around midnight for a short period. He was working OH5UFO > and (maybe) IK5ZPV at the time. Can either confirm? > Dave G3YXM. Not sure he completed with either. It was a bit of a mess. Attached is what I saw on overlapping Argograms. (1) "R OM Z" which was UA9OC replying to IK5ZPV. (2) "Z" then "PV" but that was obscured by (I think) OH5UFO calling co-channel. (3) ""V" then probably and "O" report and "K" but crashed into by the caller. IK5ZPV does not reply because of the QRM (4) Later UA9OC sends "UFO" but is doubled by a caller. That's the last I saw. 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--------------070003010308090606090300-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27696 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 09:40:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 09:40:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 22811 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Mar 2003 09:40:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 09:40:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uUbu-0002br-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:39:18 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uUbk-0002bi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:39:08 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18uUbk-0000Ox-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:39:08 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c2eba0$107f0610$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:40:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. Just looking through the grabs from last night. Only one fuzzy appearance of UA9OC last night around midnight for a short period. He was working OH5UFO and (maybe) IK5ZPV at the time. Can either confirm? Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11634 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 09:06:48 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 09:06:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 24875 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Mar 2003 09:06:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 09:06:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uU4X-0002OC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:04:49 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uU4S-0002O3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:04:44 +0000 Received: from [80.40.12.153] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18uU4R-0006g0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:04:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2eb9a$f61bc060$990c2850@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> <003201c2ea71$3706ed00$20c5e150@hughspc> <001f01c2eb0d$9bd93200$045bfea9@RSGB613192> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:28:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Andy, I am terribly sorry, I confused you with somebody else. There are no scurrilous fibs and the fantasy is all in my head. I agree with what you say about the scientific purposes of the transmissions, and that is really the point I was trying to make - that the "regulations" need to be brought into line with what we are doing. This was done to allow packet radio, and APRS so why not QRSS on LF (or any other frequency for that matter ?) 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4900 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 05:54:33 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 05:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5564 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 05:54:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 05:54:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uR1s-0001Nb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:49:52 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.145] (helo=mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uR1m-0001NS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:49:46 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030316054914.NNJX1191.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:49:14 +1200 Received: from xtr743187 ([219.88.55.13]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030316054913.MJII16901.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:49:13 +1200 Message-ID: <000d01c2eb80$74c36960$0d3758db@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2eb49$8aa4eec0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:26:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. DX working Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Our experience at ZL6QH over the last two nights has lead us to consider that 60 second dot length is about right for long haul QSO attempts, as when propagation lifts even shorter dot lengths can be OK. Amateur communication needs to make the most of propagation lifts. We also strongly endorse using DFCW, rather than single frequency QRSS, as DFCW is: - significantly faster for completing a message; - distinctive from carrier type of QRM and; - the dual frequency coding has an extra degree of freedom for making decisions on what has been received (displayed). 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25488 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 00:16:41 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 00:16:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9234 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 00:16:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 00:16:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uLoS-0006iL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:15:40 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uLoJ-0006fL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:15:31 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA3e73c18b3cf4 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:12:59 +0600 (OS) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:15:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <001201c2eb21$ab26f3a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: DX working Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.9 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Mike and Group. On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Mike Dennison wrote: > > (1) It would be very helpful if a pre-advertised DX station would say in > advance what is the shortest dot length he will use. Though DX operator do not know what dot length he'll use. If condition is good he should use short dot to achive fast operation. Othervise he should use long dot. It is matter of experiment! > > (3) Split frequency should be used to prevent strong Eu callers swamping the > wanted DX station. It is good idea. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1195 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 23:22:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 23:22:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26019 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 23:22:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 23:22:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uKxw-0006Ne-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:21:24 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uKxh-0006NV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:21:09 +0000 Received: from modem-25.angrim.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.113.25] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18uKxT-00046y-Bv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:20:55 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2eb49$8aa4eec0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:19:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. 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Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 22:47:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uKQS-00066k-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:46:48 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.144] (helo=mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uKQK-00066X-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:46:41 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030315224607.LBSJ25432.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:07 +1200 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.102.108]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030315224523.GZIL28076.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:45:23 +1200 Message-ID: <001301c2eb45$3f4432a0$6c6636d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <002101c2eafa$7f6d7a80$0500a8c0@charter.net> <002801c2eafe$9e55a180$6211f4cc@jsm> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:49:13 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Still no luck at ZL6QH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Still no luck for ZL6QH. At one stage we got very good copy of the latter part of an "NN" which assume came from UA9OC, but as they could not copy us, and we had no confirmed identification of the sender. We happened to be at the end of transmitting from ZL6QH when we believe the first character of "NN" was sent, around 1430 UTC, so by the time we we had changed over to receive, all we got was "dit dah-dit" in QRSS60, with O grade of copy. So we think that LF DX propagation was favourable, but there were no bites on the other end of our fishing line ..... ah well. For listeners to the earlier QQQQ beacon from ZL6QH, I can confirm we made a continuous transmission. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20506 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 22:47:49 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 22:47:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3123 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 22:47:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 22:47:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uKQX-00066t-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:46:53 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.147] (helo=mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uKQQ-00066Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:46:46 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030315224613.KZVR21086.mta204-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:13 +1200 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.102.108]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030315224613.GZPW28076.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:46:13 +1200 Message-ID: <001401c2eb45$5d0e8a60$6c6636d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <000701c2eae1$310138a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:49:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, We saw things like that while receiving on 137.7000 kHz at Quartz Hill. They were "strong quick dits" and we were at a loss to know how they arose. 73, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: LF: Re: ZL6QH tests > > I just had a look through the overnight Argo grabs, nothing seen of ZL6QH > > around dawn I'm afraid. I know from working ZL on 160 that this is a good > > time of year for a "grey-line" path to ZL so maybe some more tests would > be > > worthwhile? > > Dave G3YXM. > > Little seen here, either. A 120s, slow, Argocap shows something at 0230 on > 137.700.5kHz, and from 0330 on 137.700.05. Does anyone claim responsibility > for those, see the attached image. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28107 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18677 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:41:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uJOQ-0005hQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:40:38 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJOK-0005h5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:40:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA3e739d502d3a for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:38:24 +0600 (OS) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:41:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: UA9OC QTH Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.6 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Alexander S. Yurkov wrote: > > Though QRB is bit shorter. They are east from Novosibirsk Sorry, west not east. Languge problems... 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6276 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 21:36:27 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:36:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23498 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 21:36:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:36:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uJJa-0005dP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:35:38 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJJT-0005Zs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:35:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA3e739c302cc1 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:33:36 +0600 (OS) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:36:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <000d01c2eb1d$4530cc00$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: UA9OC QTH Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Alan, Mal and Group. On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, hamilton mal wrote: > According to the CIS callsign server, his QTH is Novosibirsk, the > latitude and longitude of which you could find from your atlas, or > Geoclock etc. It is not Novosibirsk itself. It is near (abt 5 km) Dovolnoe in Novosibirsk oblast (region). Acording to Russian rules calsign is not changed when station change QTH in oblast limits. UA9OC is now (temporaly) out of Novosibirsk for LF DXpedition specialy (less of noise and oportunity to use a high tower). QTH is aproximatly: 54 29' N 79 39' E Hope there is not mistake. When Ed come back it will be posible ask him. Though QRB is bit shorter. They are east from Novosibirsk 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16450 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 21:27:53 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:27:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18025 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 21:27:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 21:27:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uJAu-0005Vo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:26:40 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.12] (helo=smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJAn-0005Vf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:26:33 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-241.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.241] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uJAm-000KMQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:26:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2eb3a$22393440$f1c428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2eb21$ab26f3a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:21:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: DX working Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike G3XDV said: > > (1) It would be very helpful if a pre-advertised DX station would say in > advance what is the shortest dot length he will use. If Argo is set to a > shorter dot length, then all that will be lost is some sensitivity. If it is > set to longer, however, all of the information is lost, even though the > station is quite strong. Yes I agree Argo does need that info for best results. I have found Spectran easier to tailor to incoming signals of unknown dot length > > (2) 137.700 is not the frequency to use for DX. It is the centre of activity > in Europe and this part of the band is very busy with stations who may not > be aware of the tests. > (3) Split frequency should be used to prevent strong Eu callers swamping the > wanted DX station. There was quite a lot of Eu activity within 1Hz (!) of > the frequency used by ZL and UA9. I suggest that the alternative slot close > to 137.77 (as used by KL1X) is used for this type of test. This is only 70Hz > away, but it is far enough unless you have local QRM. The 137.773 frequency was arrived at after some e-mail discussion and .jpg images. A conscious decision was made to avoid the centre of EU QRSS activity. There is plenty of space up there for QRSS. The bottom of the band is quite good and was used for VE T/A tests. I also agree with Mike's remarks about split frequency working. I have been reluctant to fire up on 137.7 for the reasons he gives. > Regards, Peter, G3LDO e From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24810 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 20:22:22 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 20:22:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5649 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 20:22:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 20:22:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uI99-0005B9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:20:47 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uI94-0005B0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:20:42 +0000 Received: from host213-122-31-244.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.31.244] helo=Main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18uI93-0000aQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:20:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2eb30$50b82c40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030315142251.00a9ec60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:29:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jim, Congratulations, I can confirm that the signal here from Ed, whilst detectable since the beginning of his expedition, has not been as strong as when you called him last night. Steve's DCF plots, prior to him having to close for local storms, have recently shown nights where conditions have been generally poor but where there has been an odd peak of good strength. These where initially quite short, but it seems as though you got at least an hour. These conditions should persist for tonight, and possibly Sunday, but by Monday we should definitely be seeing the effect of Friday's Geomagnetic storm. I expect the effects of that, which will probably wipe out T/A conditions, to take about 10 days to decay. Hopefully daytime levels over 1000-2000 kms will be enhanced. Well done Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com >Very pleased to have a QSO with UA9OC last night. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9041 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:37:35 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:37:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 27405 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 18:37:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:37:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uGTv-0004U7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:34:07 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uGTn-0004Tv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:33:59 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315183354.RHYW25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:33:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2eb21$ab26f3a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:35:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DX working Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Another exciting weekend with some real DX to look for. However, I think it has taught us a couple of lessons for QRSS operations of this type: (1) It would be very helpful if a pre-advertised DX station would say in advance what is the shortest dot length he will use. If Argo is set to a shorter dot length, then all that will be lost is some sensitivity. If it is set to longer, however, all of the information is lost, even though the station is quite strong. (2) 137.700 is not the frequency to use for DX. It is the centre of activity in Europe and this part of the band is very busy with stations who may not be aware of the tests. (3) Split frequency should be used to prevent strong Eu callers swamping the wanted DX station. There was quite a lot of Eu activity within 1Hz (!) of the frequency used by ZL and UA9. I suggest that the alternative slot close to 137.77 (as used by KL1X) is used for this type of test. This is only 70Hz away, but it is far enough unless you have local QRM. Any comments? Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26219 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:36:24 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:36:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29671 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:36:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:36:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uGSk-0004TB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:32:54 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uGSf-0004T2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:32:49 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030315183248.RHAG25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:32:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2eb20$226c5100$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030315142251.00a9ec60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:24:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Very pleased to have a QSO with UA9OC last night. > This is my > most distant (and slowest!) 2 way LF QSO so far - the distance is similar > to UK - VE. > 73 de M0BMU Well done, Jim. Who would have thought a few years ago that three continents would be workable on LF. I will submit a short piece for the GB2RS news this week. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24199 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:34:23 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28550 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:34:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:34:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uGPe-0004Ou-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:29:42 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.21] (helo=cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uGPT-0004Ol-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:29:31 +0000 Received: from modem-35.texas.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.94.35] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18uGPR-0005tQ-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002901c2eb20$d3bc2980$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:28:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Congratulations Jim. Conditions don't appear particularly good, I hav'nt even seen them yet Hi! 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9405 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:35 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17590 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1I-00048x-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:32 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1D-00048o-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:27 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.130]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030315180426.ITIF22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2eb1d$41a7f360$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:54:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.3 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC > > Hi, Mal. > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, hamilton mal wrote: > > > Does anyone have the lat/long or grid ref for UA9OC > > They are in MO94TK QTH-loc. Alex I asked for LAT/LON or GRID REF and not LOC. I already have the Loc but my prog needs lat/long or grid ref to calculate the distance. G3KEV > > 73 de RA9MB/Alex > http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11861 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:32 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28986 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1e-00049N-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:54 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1U-000495-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:44 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.130]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030315180443.ITJZ22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2eb1d$4bab6d60$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:03:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ua9oc Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I make the distance from my QTH to Novosibirsk 5030 km if the buckmaster system is correct.
I dont have the technical  details about pwr and antenna etc at UA9OC but since I first checked 137.7 khz last night for acty he was solid both aurally and visually from 1858 utc every time I checked the freq and he was active. It was difficult to check all the time aurally because OH5UFO was swamping the frequency working only 5 hz away and on continuous CQ hi
 I would say UA9OC could easily have been worked last night on normal cw and qrs3. I think more listening/watching would be useful around EU.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26560 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:32 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28983 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:05:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:05:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1X-00049C-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:47 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uG1J-000491-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:33 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.208.130]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030315180432.ITIY22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:04:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2eb1d$4530cc00$82d0fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:57:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: UA9OC QTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Alan Lowe" To: Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: LF: UA9OC QTH In message <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6>, hamilton mal writes > Hi All > Does anyone have the lat/long or grid ref for UA9OC so that I can > work out the distance. > > According to the CIS callsign server, his QTH is Novosibirsk, the latitude and longitude of which you could find from your atlas, or Geoclock etc. The CIS callsign server can be found at www.octavia.com/callsignserver/callbook.htm Regards, Alan, G3XZX Thanks Alan for the QTH info. I can now calc the distance with my prog. 73 de Mal/G3KEV From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12774 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 17:01:10 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 17:01:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 6573 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 17:01:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 17:01:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uF1R-0003qC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:00:37 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uF1L-0003nE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:00:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu02.dialup1.infomsk.ru [212.164.45.194]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA3e735bf80f10 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:59:36 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:02:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030315142251.00a9ec60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.6 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, James Moritz wrote: > Very pleased to have a QSO with UA9OC last night. Good job, Jim! I saw only intermittent > bits of signal until about 2230, but then UA9OC was very clear "O" copy up > until midnight. When I observed RU6LWZ at Sept 2002 I had notice best conitions is 2..1 hour before sunrise here. And condx is rather bad 4..3 hour before sunrise. It is similar to Your observation of UA9OC sigs. >From sunrise to abt 30..40 min later sametimes sigs was very strong. But it was very deep and fast QSB. May be (?) it is someone similar at UA9O - UK trace. Sunrise in UA9O is abt 01-00 GMT now. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15356 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 16:30:52 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 16:30:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15441 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 16:30:52 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 16:30:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uEXi-0003bO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:29:54 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.162] (helo=imo-m07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uEXc-0003b9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:29:49 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.74.2bf50d7f (4340) for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:29:12 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <74.2bf50d7f.2ba4aed8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:29:12 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: LF: Anyone else missing messages? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just out of curiosity, have others been missing messages posted to this reflector? In the past several days I apparently did not receive Bob Vernall's first announcement about the ZL6QH tests, as well as the one titled "glfer 0.3 for Linux," only becoming aware of them when someone else replied or included a quote in their own messages. I can be sure it's not due to an over-active spam filter on my e-mail account. (AOL are blindly enamored of their glorious mail controls, but all they really let you do is select specific addresses to block, so I have not set them for this account.) Anyone have any explanations or hypotheses? 73 John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25172 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 16:12:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 16:12:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 28816 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 16:12:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 16:12:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uEFl-0003TX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:11:21 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.142] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uEFg-0003TO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:11:16 +0000 Received: from [80.225.213.160] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18uEFf-0004lg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:11:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c2eb0d$9bd93200$045bfea9@RSGB613192> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> <003201c2ea71$3706ed00$20c5e150@hughspc> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:11:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Err.... Hugh, I don't HAVE a web site, and don't intend creating one in the near future. What have you read, where ? Probably probably scurrilous fibs and fantasy Should I be concerned ;-< There is too much of that on the web More seriously though, the specific bands listed in BR68 section 2.4 refer to UNATTENDED beacons - ie where you are not in the house at all and they cannot be turned off immediately on request. Attended beacons are not covered by any specific mention, but note section 1.2 where it calls up 'self training'. I would think any beacon transmissions for a scientific purpose such as LF propagation research would be more than covered by this clause, and using this sort of mode on LF is certainly more of a self training issue than some of the stuff I hear on HF/VHF these days. Andy G4JNT > I know, I've read all about it on your web site. > But, thanks for taking the trouble to answer my posting, much appreciated. > > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15087 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 15:50:41 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:50:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26373 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 15:50:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:50:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uDvA-0003Kd-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:50:04 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uDv2-0003KK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:49:56 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18uDv1-0006YM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:49:55 +0000 Message-ID: <006701c2eb0a$b2b4f840$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20030315142251.00a9ec60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:51:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Well done Jim! Dave G3YXM. > Very pleased to have a QSO with UA9OC last night. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6268 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 15:46:34 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:46:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 13594 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 15:46:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:46:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uDrF-0003GQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:46:01 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uDrA-0003G1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:45:56 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18uDr4-0006Tj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:45:50 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18uDr2-0000QG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:45:48 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030315142251.00a9ec60@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:43:20 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <19611635140.20030315145815@dx.ru> References: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Very pleased to have a QSO with UA9OC last night. I saw only intermittent bits of signal until about 2230, but then UA9OC was very clear "O" copy up until midnight. Although they were using QRSS30, QRSS3 would probably have been readable here. Much to my surprise, they saw my signal too, and gave me an "M" report. Power here was ~1W ERP from 13m high inverted V, and for receive I was using a 2m x 2m "wide-band" loop (see the bandpass loops article downloadable from G3YXM's "features" page). From this experience, and also ZL2CA's reception of UA9OC earlier in the week, It would appear the path to UA9 can change rapidly, so definitely worth watching out for the remaining days of the expedition. This is my most distant (and slowest!) 2 way LF QSO so far - the distance is similar to UK - VE. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18152 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 15:20:27 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:20:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14733 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 15:20:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 15:20:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uDRY-00036P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:19:28 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uDRS-00036G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:19:23 +0000 Received: from snet.net (12-209-21-79.client.attbi.com [12.209.21.79]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBS00K1IQJEC6@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:18:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:20:55 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3E7344D7.878836BA@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <002101c2eafa$7f6d7a80$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: Re: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Nothing seen on 90 or 120 second screens overnight. There was a lot of > thunderstorm activity in the SE U.S., and the noise levels were pretty high. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21950 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 14:17:39 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 14:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22363 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 14:17:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 14:17:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uCT9-0002mk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:17:03 +0000 Received: from [208.181.178.245] (helo=neptune.imagenisp.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uCT4-0002mb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:16:58 +0000 Received: from jsm ([204.244.17.98]) by neptune.imagenisp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FYXAC9MK; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 06:16:55 -0800 Message-ID: <002801c2eafe$9e55a180$6211f4cc@jsm> From: "Steve McDonald" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <002101c2eafa$7f6d7a80$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 06:24:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto in VE7 land...condx quiet but no prop. Steve - VE7SL > Nothing seen on 90 or 120 second screens overnight. There was a lot of > thunderstorm activity in the SE U.S., and the noise levels were pretty high. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31903 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 13:56:23 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 13:56:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 1531 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 13:56:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 13:56:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uC8N-0002fB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:55:35 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.15] (helo=mx05.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uC8F-0002f0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:55:27 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 88351811 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c2eafa$7f6d7a80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:55:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing seen on 90 or 120 second screens overnight. There was a lot of thunderstorm activity in the SE U.S., and the noise levels were pretty high. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19613 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:58:46 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:58:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17350 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 11:58:46 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:58:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uAJ1-00029B-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:58:27 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uAIw-00028x-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:58:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 1379 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 08:19:52 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 08:19:52 +0300 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:58:15 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <19611635140.20030315145815@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> References: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9OC-M0BMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Our congratulations to Jim M0BMU - FB QSO with UA9OC 5053 km! Saw both very well. 73! -- Best regards, Vlad/UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:57:05 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:57:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 26771 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 11:57:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:57:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uAHH-00027S-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:56:39 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uAHC-00027J-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:56:34 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315115633.BQDW9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:56:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2eaea$28813b40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901c2eae2$564eaba0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <11527.030315@pyrotherm.co.yu> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:58:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Another 1st or 2nd? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040800030209000101060201" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040800030209000101060201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > MD> Just worked Teo, YU7AR, on QRSS3, exchanging 'O' reports for my 22nd > MD> country. Is this a G-YU first? Or have I got Silver again? > > Yes Mike I confirm this qso, but first G is M0BMU 2nd is Dave G3YXM > you are my qso #30 and 13nd country. Thanks, Teo. What is your locator? Mine is IO91VT. Attached is a screenshot of your sigs. 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netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:40:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5552 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 11:40:43 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:40:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18uA1O-000214-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:40:14 +0000 Received: from [62.108.119.250] (helo=ns.pyrotherm.co.yu) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uA1H-00020v-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:40:09 +0000 Received: from - ([62.108.119.73]) by ns.pyrotherm.co.yu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h2FBd9a07424 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:39:09 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:40:02 +0100 From: "YU7AR" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: pyrotherm X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <11527.030315@pyrotherm.co.yu> To: "Mike Dennison" In-reply-to: <001901c2eae2$564eaba0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> References: <001901c2eae2$564eaba0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Another 1st or 2nd? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Mike, Saturday, March 15, 2003, 12:02:14 PM, you wrote: MD> Just worked Teo, YU7AR, on QRSS3, exchanging 'O' reports for my 22nd MD> country. Is this a G-YU first? Or have I got Silver again? Yes Mike I confirm this qso, but first G is M0BMU 2nd is Dave G3YXM you are my qso #30 and 13nd country. -- Best regards, Teo YU7AR mailto:yu7ar@pyrotherm.co.yu From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12035 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:20:09 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:20:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23318 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 11:20:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:20:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u9hN-0001tw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:19:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9hI-0001tn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:19:28 +0000 Received: from jalowe.demon.co.uk ([158.152.173.18]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18u9hF-0005cG-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3N1LoLAHvwc+EwHg@jalowe.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:17:27 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "J. Alan Lowe" References: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> In-reply-to: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Subject: LF: UA9OC QTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.5 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In message <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6>, hamilton mal writes > Hi All > Does anyone have the lat/long or grid ref for UA9OC so that I can > work out the distance.   >   >   According to the CIS callsign server, his QTH is Novosibirsk, the latitude and longitude of which you could find from your atlas, or Geoclock etc. The CIS callsign server can be found at www.octavia.com/callsignserver/callbook.htm Regards, Alan, G3XZX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17088 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:06:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:06:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20848 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:06:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:06:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u9Tt-0001nZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:05:37 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9Tn-0001nQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:05:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA3e7308825cc2 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:03:30 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:06:28 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.6 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Mal. On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, hamilton mal wrote: > Does anyone have the lat/long or grid ref for UA9OC They are in MO94TK QTH-loc. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28432 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 11:01:36 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:01:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 6336 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 11:01:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 11:01:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u9PD-0001jU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:00:47 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9P2-0001jL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:00:36 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315110036.BMJY11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:00:36 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c2eae2$564eaba0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:02:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Another 1st or 2nd? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just worked Teo, YU7AR, on QRSS3, exchanging 'O' reports for my 22nd country. Is this a G-YU first? Or have I got Silver again? Also saw OK1HRE? at 'M', but by the time I got the Tx running he had gone. This was not DJ2HRE, or OK1DTN who were both on at the same time. Does anyone recognise this one? Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31013 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 10:53:21 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4222 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 10:53:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:53:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u9HE-0001b4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:52:32 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9H9-0001au-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:52:27 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315105223.BDBE11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:52:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2eae1$310138a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:54:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030608000000030100060307" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030608000000030100060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I just had a look through the overnight Argo grabs, nothing seen of ZL6QH > around dawn I'm afraid. I know from working ZL on 160 that this is a good > time of year for a "grey-line" path to ZL so maybe some more tests would be > worthwhile? > Dave G3YXM. Little seen here, either. A 120s, slow, Argocap shows something at 0230 on 137.700.5kHz, and from 0330 on 137.700.05. Does anyone claim responsibility for those, see the attached image. 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-0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:51:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u9FN-0001ZV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:50:37 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9FI-0001ZM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:50:33 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA3e7304745ad8 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:46:12 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:49:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: glfer 0.3 for Linux Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.4 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Claudio and Group. On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Claudio Girardi wrote: > Dear Alex, LF Group, > glfer uses X-Windows, and unfortunately the gtk+ library used for implementing > the graphical interface seems to be quite resource-hungry... > There is a version of this library that does not need X-Windows but uses directly > the VGA modes of the video card, only for PC-like systems, while the X-Windows > version works also on workstations (anyone using a Sun or HP workstation for > doing LF work? (hi) ) > I'll take a look at the possibility of having a non X-Windows version, but it > will probably take some time before adapting glfer to this library. What about non X-Windows version of glfer (using SVGAlib)? Or may be there is another spectogram softwere for Linux somewhere? 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32638 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 10:19:18 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:19:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 27528 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Mar 2003 10:19:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:19:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u8hC-0001Me-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:15:18 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u8h7-0001MM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:15:13 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.233.13]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030315101512.VIKT22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:15:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2eadb$b3191ca0$0de9fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:01:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Does anyone have the lat/long or grid ref for UA9OC so that I can work out the distance. He has been a strong signal with me yesterday evening at 1858/1902 and 1958/2006.
I was using QRS 3 setting so getting long elements because of his slower speed.
Lots of other acty as well around the freq of 137.7 khz all very strong and especially OH5UFO who called CQ most of the evening almost wiping the others out, he was so strong that he was blurring the screen hi. In spite of all the activity I did not observe any actual QSO'S taking place at my listening/watching times. Although the transmitted signals were excellent and well received at my QTH, there could be a problem of receiving at some locations, never seen so many consistant CQ'S from so many all at once all evening hi
 
The antenna in use last evening was my 90 metre perimiter vert loop, parallel resonated for 137 khz fed into a Decca preamp and a IC706 receiver. This system is so sensitive that I have to use attenuation at times between preamp and RX and use mimimum gain setting on ARGO. There is no overload. intermod etc just bags of controlled gain.
The loop is firing E/W- max gain for LF
When using the W/G Level meter as a RX the preamp is not used and yeilds about the same results.
My transmitting vertical system  is superior without any preamp on Rx and normally used for both TX/RX and the loop is just a backup and experimental antenna.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30233 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 10:14:16 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:14:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 10:14:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 10:14:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18u8bh-0001Ku-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:09:37 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u8bc-0001Kl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:09:32 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18u8bc-0004P9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:09:32 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c2eadb$25816690$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:10:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ZL6QH tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. I just had a look through the overnight Argo grabs, nothing seen of ZL6QH around dawn I'm afraid. I know from working ZL on 160 that this is a good time of year for a "grey-line" path to ZL so maybe some more tests would be worthwhile? 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24467 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 21:34:14 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 21:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24369 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 21:34:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 21:34:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18twnw-0007kI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:33:28 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.141] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18twnr-0007k9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:33:23 +0000 Received: from [80.225.197.32] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18twnq-0006vz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:33:22 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c2ea71$3706ed00$20c5e150@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:23:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Andy, and group. Andy, G4JNT, wrote: > If you are in the house it is attended operation. OK, but it doesn't feel like I'm tending my station when I'm fast asleep ! > Personal beacons are intended for reception by radio amateurs and are not > classed as broadcast type signals. Look at your BR68. Er, yes I have actually, and I see paragraph (or is it a sub-clause) 2(4) and I see that there are certain frequency bands where we are allowed to operate such a beacon, and 136kHz is not among them. I also see 1(7) where is says ... shall not send messages... for general reception by licenced amateurs other that: (a) initial calls; (b) groups, as long as communication is first established with one amateur in the group. (c) in a "net" (d) via a mailbox or bulletin board. I don't think that the sort of transmission used for T/A contacts, e.g. transmitting WYE over and over again is covered by this. But, please ... if I'm missing something ... quote me a paragraph number to go and look at. > was to incorporate a fast CW ident into every dot period. Now that is a clever idea. I will look at incorporating that in my own keying software. > - "Rules are for the guidance of wise men and for blind observance by fools" - I will try that maxim on the man from the Radiocommunications Authority if he comes to inspect my station ! > Andy G4JNT (still lurking on this reflector but lost interest in operating LF) I know, I've read all about it on your web site. But, thanks for taking the trouble to answer my posting, much appreciated. 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4178 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 20:35:10 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 20:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8645 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 20:35:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 20:35:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tvsZ-0007WE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:34:11 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tvsT-0007W5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:34:05 +0000 Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030314203333.LDYV1065.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:33:33 +1300 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.99.43]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030314203331.MPRB6625.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:33:31 +1300 Message-ID: <002501c2ea69$a8d82b40$cde136d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:36:13 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ZL6QH beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Confirming that ZL6QH intends to beacon on 137.7000 kHz with DFCW, plus and minus 0.2 Hz shift, from before ZL sunset till 1218 UTC on Saturday. We will be sending QQQQQ. At 1230 we will try again for a QSO with UA9OC. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30447 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 20:06:47 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 20:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 19936 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 20:06:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 20:06:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tvQx-0007Na-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:05:39 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.145] (helo=mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tvQT-0007NM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:05:09 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030314200437.PRYK412.mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:04:37 +1300 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.225.205]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030314200434.LVMX18586.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:04:34 +1300 Message-ID: <001301c2ea65$9d56c0a0$cde136d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000a01c2ea12$d8880920$e3e486d4@erica> <5.1.0.14.0.20030314112613.00a9e7d0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <21695250.20030314183552@dx.ru> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:07:21 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: No luck for ZL6QH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.3 required=5.0tests=NO_DNS_FOR_FROM,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, We had no luck last night with ZL6QH hooking up with UA9OC. We got what we thought were a few good keydowns on the expected frequency, but no useful message was received. We are wondering if there were technical problems at UA9OC, and I guess we will find out in due course. We are returning for another try tonight. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10973 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 19:46:57 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 19:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17803 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 19:46:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 19:46:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tv7B-0007Ex-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:45:13 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.48] (helo=mta8-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tv76-0007Eo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:45:08 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.83]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030314194507.MSER22832.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:45:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2ea62$278de360$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:43:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
UA9OC good solid OOO on 137.7 khz at 1858/1902 utc a short time ago this evening 14/03/03
Others around the freq all calling CQ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and all at different QRS speeds. No one seems to be listening/watching !!
Stns seen OH, OK, IK all very strong all CQ obviously not seeing the UA stn.
Have a screen shot here taken at QRS 3
Pity UA9OC not working xband for reports as well as 137 KHZ. I am QRV tx on all HF bands 1.8 - 28 mhz and can work Duplex. 7030 khz would be a good choice at this time.
de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26925 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 17:11:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 17:11:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29430 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 17:11:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 17:11:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tsct-0006i8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:05:47 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tscj-0006hd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:05:38 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA3e720b4a516e for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:03:06 +0600 (OS) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:05:58 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030314120358.024cf410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Rising damp Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Jim and Group. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, James Moritz wrote: > > My loading coil lives outside in a shelter made of plastic sheet over a > timber frame. To get rid of condensation, I have an old fan-heater in the > bottom of the housing. The 2 heating elements are wired in series so it > consumes roughly 500W instead of 2kW. This is so it runs much cooler than > normal, just a warm draught, to avoid melting the plastic. Such an idea: Why don't put a coil into the oil? Seems it is posible use old used motor oil after filtering. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27095 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 15:37:16 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 15:37:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25520 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 15:37:16 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 15:37:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18trEE-0006H0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:36:14 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18trE6-0006Go-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:36:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 678 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 12:12:21 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:12:21 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:35:52 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <21695250.20030314183552@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030314112613.00a9e7d0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000a01c2ea12$d8880920$e3e486d4@erica> <5.1.0.14.0.20030314112613.00a9e7d0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group , Some latest news from UA9OC crew: now try to make QSO with ZL6QH. After 19z will be ready to try with Eu. Ed asked to use QRSS10 or QRSS30 only, not QRSS3 because signals very weak from EU . 73! -- Best regards, Vlad/UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28318 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 12:35:36 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:35:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15521 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 12:35:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:35:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18toOn-0005N3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:34:57 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18toOf-0005Mu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:34:49 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030314123448.IPL25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:34:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2ea26$5627c920$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c2ea21$badc1100$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:36:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: UA9OC at 2224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Oops. I meant to say 2224UTC on 13 Mar, not 14. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4319 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 12:21:51 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:21:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 21633 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 12:21:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:21:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18toAx-0005F5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:20:39 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18toAo-0005Ew-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:20:30 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18toAD-0004LY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:19:53 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18toAB-00003N-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:19:51 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030314120358.024cf410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:19:50 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <001b01c2ea1a$ec6fe2c0$c71686d4@erica> References: <3E4BC23500033F62@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Rising damp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Peter, LF Group, At 11:11 14/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Laurence remarked that he was aware of the problem in commercial LF set-ups >and that this had been cured by arranging loading coils to be surrounded by >an atmosphere of dry air. The Decca loading coil buildings had extensive >electrical heating as I recall. My loading coil lives outside in a shelter made of plastic sheet over a timber frame. To get rid of condensation, I have an old fan-heater in the bottom of the housing. The 2 heating elements are wired in series so it consumes roughly 500W instead of 2kW. This is so it runs much cooler than normal, just a warm draught, to avoid melting the plastic. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2743 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 12:02:43 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13313 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 12:02:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 12:02:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tnsv-00054E-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:02:01 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tnso-00053v-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:01:54 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030314120151.ZRYO11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:01:51 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2ea21$badc1100$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:03:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC at 2224 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040909060108050105030106" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040909060108050105030106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looking back through my Argocaps, I found this one which appears to be most of UA9OC's callsign starting at 2224UTC on 14 Mar. It takes a bit of imagination, but the frequency is right (0 on my scale is 137.000kHz). Note how close other stations were to the frequency. 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mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:47:16 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <001101c2ea16$a9708960$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000a01c2ea12$d8880920$e3e486d4@erica> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Re: UA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Ed & Friends, LF Group, Saw a few characters from UA9OC between 2330 and 0000utc last night, but generally not as good as G3LDO's capture. At my QTH, there seems to be a weak Loran-like line very close to 137.7k which fades in an out, and may be obscuring the signals at times. I saw OH5UFO call UA9OC a couple of times, so guess Reino is copying them OK. I have left the receiver on 137.773kHz in the hope of catching beacon signals this afternoon. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13172 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 11:11:22 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 11:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 28840 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 11:11:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 11:11:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tn5B-0004g8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:10:37 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tn56-0004fz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:10:32 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-199.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.199] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18tn55-0002MW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:10:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c2ea1a$ec6fe2c0$c71686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E4BC23500033F62@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:11:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Rising damp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Monday I had a visit from Laurence, KL1X. He was on his way from Surrey to Exeter and by the time he got here it was dusk. I showed him the garden shed transmitter shack and fired up the transmitter. I explained that the antenna current was behaving strangely lately, starting off rather low then building up. Laurence noticed that, in the half light, there was sparking occurring, in several places, inside the plastic covering of the 4mm Litz wire coil windings. We concluded that there must be damp inside the litz wire that had to be 'cooked' out before full power could be achieved. Building up a head of steam so to speak! Laurence remarked that he was aware of the problem in commercial LF set-ups and that this had been cured by arranging loading coils to be surrounded by an atmosphere of dry air. The Decca loading coil buildings had extensive electrical heating as I recall. Over the last few days I have cooked the loading coil by placing against radiator in the house. In the last couple of days the weather has become dry with a cold drying northerly wind. This morning, before taking the antenna down, I fired up the transmitter and the current meter hit 9.2Amps! The Decca transmitter 6amp current meter was endstop. I quickly switched off and tried different taps on the matching transformer. The antenna system seems to have a total resistance of about 20 or 25ohms at the moment and the tuning is very twitchy - the slightest movement of the antenna in the wind causes large variations of antenna current. I am not sure what is going on. I can only conclude that it is a combination of a dry loading coil and dry weather condition and a high tide. I had also cut down a lot of Ivy that covered a near dead tree about 3m from the loading coil. Or it might be the KL1X effect! Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16408 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 10:43:52 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 10:43:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28434 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 10:43:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 10:43:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tmea-0004Ut-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:43:08 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tmeN-0004Uf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:42:55 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030314104254.UNCF310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:42:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2ea16$a9708960$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <000a01c2ea12$d8880920$e3e486d4@erica> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:44:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: UA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > My screen was set to 10dot normal. This is my compromise setting for > anything that might appear from 3sec to 30secs. > After he signed I gave a call - just my call sign (10 sec dots) in case he > was looking - sorry about the mess. > I would say that it certainly was UA9OC that you saw. > Regards, > Peter, G3LDO Hmmm. That's the problem with QRSS. for optimum results the Rx and Tx need to be set the same. Anyone who was monitoring at QRSS120 (as advertised by the expedition) would have seen just a blob (as my 120s screen did). It was useful that I had a QRSS30 screen running at the same time. Argo is remarkably stable with two copies running with different settings and both auto-saving. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2734 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 10:13:23 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 10:13:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11277 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 10:13:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 10:13:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tmBH-0004Io-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:12:51 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tmB9-0004Ib-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:12:43 +0000 Received: from tnt-21-227.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.228.227] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18tmB8-000IZx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:12:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2ea12$d8880920$e3e486d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:16:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: UA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike > > What speed was this? I had a QRSS30 screen running (as well as the QRSS120) > and saw what could have been UA9OC sending QRSS10 at 0.15Hz HF of nominal, > at midnight. The wrong speed screen makes it unreadable, but it certainly > looks like it could be "UA9OC K". Someone appears to be calling him just > afterwards. > My screen was set to 10dot normal. This is my compromise setting for anything that might appear from 3sec to 30secs. At the time I wasn't looking. The Argo screen was behind my Word screen as I was typing in the Antennas column, which is running a bit late. I switched off Word and saw the callsign as shown. By the time I had got around to capturing it I had missed out the U. After he signed I gave a call - just my call sign (10 sec dots) in case he was looking - sorry about the mess. After I signed I carried on looking and he came on again but the signal/noise didn't allow a further ID. I would say that it certainly was UA9OC that you saw. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30141 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 09:55:35 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 09:55:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20512 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 09:55:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 09:55:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tlrr-0004AR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:52:47 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tlrk-0004A4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:52:40 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA04897 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: <3E71A59D.677FD794@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:49:17 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010501010803050209090909" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010501010803050209090909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, during the last night I saw Ed several times, sometimes clearly OOO but affected by slow strong QSB. In spite of new 400-W-PA no success in calling him - perhaps a new chance in the next night. Vy 73 es gl! 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rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:20:44 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tlMl-0003tQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:20:39 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18tlMl-00022w-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:20:39 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c2ea0b$25c19a60$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:21:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ZL2CA's screen grab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Bob's copy of UA9OC can be seen at http://www.wireless.org.uk/newspic83.htm 73 and good luck to the ZL6QH group for a QSO. Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11516 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 09:18:43 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 09:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 22580 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 09:18:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 09:18:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tlK8-0003qN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:17:56 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tlK1-0003qE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:17:49 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030314091746.KCDO6166.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:17:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c2ea09$8251cf40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c2ea04$218db8e0$d5ce28c3@erica> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:10:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: UA9 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070101010109050006020200" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070101010109050006020200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Saw UA9O..starting just before midnight > > Peter G3LDO What speed was this? I had a QRSS30 screen running (as well as the QRSS120) and saw what could have been UA9OC sending QRSS10 at 0.15Hz HF of nominal, at midnight. The wrong speed screen makes it unreadable, but it certainly looks like it could be "UA9OC K". Someone appears to be calling him just afterwards. 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18tkKC-0003S6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:13:56 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030314081356.RWDF9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:13:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2ea01$b2ef76a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:14:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Nil agn from UA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing seen from UA9 on overnight Argos. There was a large amount of Eu activity until 0200 within 2Hz of 137.700 which caused some problems with the QRSS120 screen. Even QRSS10 has keying sidebands! It would help if everyone kept at least 10Hz from 137.700kHz, preferably much more, this weekend. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10768 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 08:08:25 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 08:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 1750 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 08:08:25 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 08:08:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tkAc-0003OR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:04:02 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tkAT-0003OI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 38097 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 09:21:23 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 09:21:22 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:03:48 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1883188413.20030314110348@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello rsgb lf group ! The last night condition for Eu were better DCF was is audible 59 (night before 57) but did not see anybody from EU. Today at 15-18z will try QSO with ZL6QH on QRSS60 and later for Eu QRSS3-QRSS30. 73! -- Best regards, Vlad/UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8212 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 01:06:04 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 01:06:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 11950 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Mar 2003 01:06:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 01:06:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tdd5-0002Fj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:04:59 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.21] (helo=dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tdd0-0002FM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:04:54 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 58093525 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c2e9c6$8ad97a20$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002d01c2e94b$eac6a0a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <003101c2e958$2bcf6080$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:10:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 14 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It is very noisy here tonight, with MP and my pet Loran line being barely visible, so no decent TA results are expected. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15981 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:18:55 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28689 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 22:18:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:18:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tb1t-0001dy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:18:25 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tb1p-0001dh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:18:21 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18tb1o-0005fO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003301c2e9ae$9bdb3150$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c2e944$70351490$483658db@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <002401c2e9a1$1f9c0400$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <003501c2e9a4$8eeb5150$16e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:19:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Positive results of UA9OC sigs in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Bob. Send it to me g3yxm@wireless.org.uk and I'll link it from the news page. http://www.wireless.org.uk Cheers, Dave G3YXM. > I am happy to send an Argo capture > to someone with a web site, to post it for general inspection. I will email > a file to those with web site facilities. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19900 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:14:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20650 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:14:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:14:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18taxR-0001Y6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:49 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18taxM-0001Xx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:44 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.158]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313221343.ZWNF12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000101c2e9ad$d2bcd580$9ed1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <010101c2e8e6$7294c630$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A test tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false No early Friday morning RSS60 transmissionsfrom MI0AYZ I'm afraid. Having lots of computatroubles as a result of having the loading coil in the shack, with RF getting into places it should not be, and will have to spend tonite delousing and restuffing the laptop. (Desktop fine onQRSS but won't run Gram-type programs at all) Argo on QRSS60/120 seems to be particularly susceptible for some reason, though I think I got a glimpse of UA9OC this afternoon on QRSS60 between crashes. By Sat AM should be back in business with 'auto-start' facility added - courtesy of another 4 pole relay. Ian, GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 722 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:14:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20658 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 22:14:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 22:14:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18taxL-0001Xt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:43 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18taxG-0001Xk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:38 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.158]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313221338.ZWLN12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2e9ad$cf44c5c0$9ed1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:56:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Andy, Have hunted through the Oxford Dictionary of quotations, Brewer, & several lesser known works over the years and not managed to find that wonderful aphorism, but somewhere in the back of my mind I am sure that we had it impressed on us in Latin class (about 1942 that must have been).Therefore I am also very keen to find its origins! 73, Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20808 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 21:36:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 21:36:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 655 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 21:36:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 21:36:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18taMY-0001N4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:35:42 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18taMO-0001Mo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:35:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu08.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.120]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA3e70f97f72fc for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:34:55 +0600 (OS) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:37:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <002d01c2e94b$eac6a0a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.1 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Group. I just worked with UA9OC on QRSS3 reports O/O. Such a nice QSO! I have copy audible also. UA9OC sometimes send the callsign on QRSS10. FREQ is 137.7 kHz. But seems most of time they observe the band. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19141 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 21:08:45 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 21:08:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 18059 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 21:08:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 21:08:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tZvu-0001Cu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:10 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.144] (helo=mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tZvn-0001Ci-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:04 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030313210729.WMMH5653.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:07:29 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.54.99.85]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030313210725.MHPQ2793.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:07:25 +1300 Message-ID: <003501c2e9a4$8eeb5150$16e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c2e944$70351490$483658db@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <002401c2e9a1$1f9c0400$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:04:43 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Positive results of UA9OC sigs in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Last night I got convincing results of the UA9OC QRSS60 beacon transmission on 137.7 kHz. I found the frequency offset to be +0.15 Hz at the time of best reception here (around 1500 UTC). I am happy to send an Argo capture to someone with a web site, to post it for general inspection. I will email a file to those with web site facilities. My QTH in western Wellington is in the same grid square as ZL6QH, however Quartz Hill overlooks the sea and it should have good sea gain in the UA9 direction compared to my QTH, so we are hopeful of making a go of it from ZL6QH tonight ..... 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27678 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 20:53:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:53:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 2201 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 20:53:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:52:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tZgU-000161-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:52:14 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tZgP-00015s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:52:09 +0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2DKq6i19122 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id PAA23085; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:52:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006901c2e9a3$ec80cbc0$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c2e944$70351490$483658db@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> <002401c2e9a1$1f9c0400$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:02:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: ZL6QH beacon for North America 15 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, > As some of us in Eu (me included) would like to try for ZL6QH around > 0630-0730 I suggest we don't beacon on Saturday morning. And I think I'll resist the overwhelming temptation to copy CT1DRP one more time, and look for Q's from down under. Meaning no offense to Brian, of course... John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30439 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 20:42:51 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 11468 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 20:42:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:42:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tZWT-0000z7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:41:53 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tZWO-0000yy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:41:49 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18tZWO-0004lq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:41:48 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2e9a1$1f9c0400$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000301c2e944$70351490$483658db@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:42:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: ZL6QH beacon for North America 15 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false As some of us in Eu (me included) would like to try for ZL6QH around 0630-0730 I suggest we don't beacon on Saturday morning. Dave G3YXM. > Sunset at ZL6QH is about 0640 UTC, so we will have a DFCW beacon running on > 137.7000 kHz from before 0640 till 1215 UTC, send an ID of QQQQQ with 120 > second dot length. The ZL6QH beacon will be on Saturday 15 March. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21355 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 19:23:53 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 19:23:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 12010 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 19:23:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 19:23:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tYIT-0000el-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:23:21 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tYIP-0000ec-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:23:17 +0000 Received: from host213-122-76-222.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.76.222] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18tYIO-0003wZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:23:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e996$0299df40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:22:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re UA9OC ...?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, well I caught a few elements on Eds frequency (a little bit....0.15Hz +/- 0.1Hz .... HF of nominal by my calculation) at about 1800 to 1845z. If you had a BIG imagination you could just about see it as a CQ UA9 ....but the "A" was missing completely and few of the letters were fully formed , only 2 dashes of the "9" before it faded completely. That was probably not using the optimum parameters....I was on 30sec dots slow. ....the dashes were 120sec length. Still this is promising as it is early yet.... only just past my sundown Of course it could just be the Martians!! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26963 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 19:08:49 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 19:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 1663 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 19:08:49 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 19:08:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tY3i-0000Xc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:08:06 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tY3b-0000XT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:08:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 36183 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 20:25:28 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:25:28 +0300 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:07:53 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <194559601.20030313220753@dx.ru> To: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030313173911.00a9c410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030313173911.00a9c410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF group ! Some latest news from Ed RU6LA and Vic UA9OC : The last night condition were very bad and they had technical problems. Now they are ready to work for EU this night and hope for good conditions. While have in log only RU6LWZ and RA9MB. 73!Vlad/UA6LV Thursday, March 13, 2003, 8:48:18 PM, you wrote: JM> Dear Ed & Friends, LF group, JM> Good signals again last night from RU6LWZ/UA6LO - but nil so far from UA9. JM> Will try again tonight. JM> Cheers, Jim Moritz JM> 73 de M0BMU -- Best regards, UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7279 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 18:33:37 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 18:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13603 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 18:33:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 18:33:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tXVh-0000Kp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:32:57 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tXVT-0000KZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:32:43 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030313183242.KBNG20605.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:32:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e98e$ea84e140$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:32:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Fools and wise men Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > - "Rules are for the guidance of wise men and for blind observance by > fools" - > By the way, if anyone knows the source of this quote then please let me know! > It is probably not Shakespeare, but everyone I have enquired from, including > several English teachers, have all "heard it" but cannot place the source. > Andy G4JNT (still lurking on this reflector but lost interest in operating LF) Andy, Many web references show this as "author unknown", but the following fascinating page attributes it to flyer Douglas Bader. http://www.quotelady.com/subjects/foolishness.html However, http://members.lycos.co.uk/curmudgeon/misc/quotations.html says: "Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools." (Solon, the Lawmaker of Athens, d. 559 BC) It is interesting to note that most wisdom was written down more than 2000 years ago. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28060 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 17:52:34 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 17:52:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28626 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 17:52:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 17:52:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tWoy-0008Vq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:48:48 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tWor-0008Vd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:48:41 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18tWoa-0005ej-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:48:24 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18tWoV-00024K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:48:19 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030313173911.00a9c410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:48:18 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <1072583153.20030313132346@dx.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Ed & Friends, LF group, Good signals again last night from RU6LWZ/UA6LO - but nil so far from UA9. Will try again tonight. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8117 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23405 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tWfl-0008Qf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:39:17 +0000 Received: from [130.244.199.130] (helo=fep02-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tWfb-0008QW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:39:07 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.36.76]) by fep02-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030313173902.ZQHV26670.fep02-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:39:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004f01c2e987$b687b900$4c2465d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000701c2e93d$7f499200$3704210a@Hugh> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:52:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hugh M0WYE wrote: > a) It is difficult to send your callsign every 15 minutes when it takes that > longer than that to send your callsign ! It is a matter of perspective. If you are repeating only your callsign, you are not sending it at 15 minute intervals - you are sending it _all_ the time! I bet there is no rule that puts a lower limit on CW speed. 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4613 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 16622 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tSzs-0007BA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:48 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tSzk-0007B1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:40 +0000 Received: from [80.40.88.20] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18tSzj-0008La-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:39 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:42:36 -0000 Message-ID: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:42:33 -0000 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false If you are in the house it is attended operation. Personal beacons are intended for reception by radio amateurs and are not classed as broadcast type signals. Look at your BR68. The way I overcame the 15 minute rule on the first SLOWCW tests was to incorporate a fast CW ident into every dot period. Then a dot would consist of 20WPM plus carrier, a dash, this process repeated 3 times. The result appears as a 30 - 40% power reduction for the few seconds that the fast ident is being sent. The SLOWCW software I wrote, still used by a few on these bands does do this. - "Rules are for the guidance of wise men and for blind observance by fools" - By the way, if anyone knows the source of this quote then please let me know! It is probably not Shakespeare, but everyone I have enquired from, including several English teachers, have all "heard it" but cannot place the source. Andy G4JNT (still lurking on this reflector but lost interest in operating LF) -----Original Message----- From: Hugh M0WYE [SMTP:m0wye@thersgb.net] Sent: 2003/03/13 08:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: The leT/A of the law Hi All, It seems to me that this transatlantic stuff is stretching the rules somewhat. a) It is difficult to send your callsign every 15 minutes when it takes that longer than that to send your callsign ! b) With people setting their transmitter to come on with timers in the early hours while they are asleep, you can hardly call it "attended" operation. c) There beacon type transmissions are more in the nature of a broadcast, than establishing contact, individually, with other licenced amateurs. I'm not saying anybody's doing anything "wrong" because it has all been very much within the spirit of amateur radio - I'm just wondering if the rules need to be looked at, and modified to allow the use of very low-speed communications. 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11956 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 13:29:36 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23034 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 13:29:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:29:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tSlH-00072i-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:28:43 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tSlB-00072Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:28:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.252.221.17] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (17.221.252.64.snet.net [64.252.221.17]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2DDSUOS005617 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:28:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E7087A9.1696AA2@snet.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:29:13 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002d01c2e94b$eac6a0a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> <003101c2e958$2bcf6080$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 13 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto here. Is this the beginning of springtime condx? Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > It was very noisy here last night. I started recording at 0330, but only a > fragment of CT1DRP's signal was seen around 0645. Even my friendly Loran > line was looking sad. VE3OT's "MP" was visible all night, but not up to > usual standards. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10806 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 12:01:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 12:01:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23475 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 12:01:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 12:01:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tRNi-0006aa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:00:18 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.25] (helo=dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tRNd-0006aM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:00:13 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 55563990 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:59:42 -0500 Message-ID: <003101c2e958$2bcf6080$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002d01c2e94b$eac6a0a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:00:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 13 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It was very noisy here last night. I started recording at 0330, but only a fragment of CT1DRP's signal was seen around 0645. Even my friendly Loran line was looking sad. VE3OT's "MP" was visible all night, but not up to usual standards. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9345 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 10:33:30 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22850 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 10:33:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:33:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tPzq-00067A-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:31:34 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPzl-00066z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:31:29 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313103128.YSQB26467.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:31:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c2e94b$eac6a0a0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:32:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Nil from UA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false 12 March: Monitored all night using Argo set to QRSS120 but nothing seen from UA9. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27566 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 10:24:26 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 22278 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 10:24:15 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:24:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tPsL-0005vi-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:23:49 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPsG-0005vM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:23:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 33011 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 11:41:13 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 11:41:13 +0300 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:23:46 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1072583153.20030313132346@dx.ru> To: "Alexander S. Yurkov" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Heard RA9MB but weak . QSO is not present. I hope for the next night. 73!Vlad/UA6LV Thursday, March 13, 2003, 9:21:54 AM, you wrote: ASY> Hi, Group. ASY> I have sucsessfuly QRSS10 QSO with UA9OC. Also I saw QSO RZ6LWZ and UA9OC ASY> All reports was O. ASY> My ERP was only about 10 mW. ASY> 73 de RA9MB/Alex ASY> http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb -- Best regards, UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4901 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 10:19:29 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:19:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23206 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 10:19:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:19:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tPnJ-0005rt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:18:37 +0000 Received: from [193.205.7.2] (helo=firewall.dii.unisi.it ident=postfix) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPnE-0005rk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:18:32 +0000 Received: from alpha.dii.unisi.it (alpha [10.1.0.1]) by firewall.dii.unisi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664823C0E0 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:18:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from Debug (alpha.dii.unisi.it [10.1.0.1]) by alpha.dii.unisi.it (Postfix) with SMTP id F266F1FD17 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:25:43 +0100 (CET) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: valerio@dii.unisi.it Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:25:44 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.26 Message-ID: <20030313112544.F266F1FD17@alpha.dii.unisi.it> Subject: LF: UA9OC ? X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello All, yesterday i monitored the QRSS band from 13:00 UTC to 00:00 UTC, i saw S57A (S-9), M0BMU (O), OK1DTN (S-7), OH5UFO (O), G3LDO (O), RU6LWZ(O) but no trace of UA9OC. Any European Ham saw him ? '73 IK5ZPV (valerio) --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. It was installed by Engineering Department of University of Siena - Italy. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1034 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 10:06:11 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:06:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19397 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 10:06:04 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 10:06:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tPad-0005ju-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:05:31 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPaY-0005ji-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:05:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 32730 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 11:22:54 +0300 Received: from ua6lv.dx (10.0.1.12) by gw.dx with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 11:22:54 +0300 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:05:28 +0300 From: "UA6LV" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nort X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <211484340.20030313130528@dx.ru> To: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re[2]: LF: T/A 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Last night had pleasant QSO with UA9OC on QRSS3/QRSS10. Ours Bev,s is directed on east and we do not hear Eu. While Ed and Vic have problems but this night should be ready for Eu. 73!Vlad/UA6LV Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 2:34:59 PM, you wrote: JM> Dear LF Group, JM> Nice QRSS3 signals from RU6LWZ on 137.700kHz last night - they were "O" JM> copy from the time I arrived home at about 2030, until they apparently went JM> to receive about half an hour later . I spent some time calling them using JM> QRSS10 and QRSS30, but only time will tell if they saw anything. It was JM> certainly a good signal here, audible at about S2 some of the time. JM> I also left the TX running overnight until about 0600utc on 137.7725kHz, JM> but I have a feeling I may have left it set up for QRSS30 - will be JM> interested to see what came out! JM> Cheers, Jim Moritz JM> 73 de M0BMU -- Best regards, UA6LV mailto:ua6lv@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31339 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 09:40:55 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 09:40:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26115 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 09:40:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 09:40:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tPC1-0005Yz-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:40:05 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPBu-0005YX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:39:59 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030313093926.CJRA1065.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:39:26 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([219.88.54.72]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030313093923.NSE2793.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:39:23 +1300 Message-ID: <000301c2e944$70351490$483658db@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:38:48 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: ZL6QH beacon for North America 15 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, ZL6QH is being activated on LF for an attempted QSO with UA9OC on 14 and 15 March, during the period 1230 to 1818 UTC. This is the time for a dark path between ZL and UA9. ZL6QH is going to use DFCW with a centre frequency of 137.7000 kHz, so any others trying to follow a QSO could receive both sides, with the UA9OC QRSS120 signal also being on 137.7000 kHz (with about +0.35 Hz offset if my result last night is correct). Because we will be all set up at ZL6QH, we may as well run in beacon mode before UA9 sunset, while there is a dark path from ZL to The Americas. Sunset at ZL6QH is about 0640 UTC, so we will have a DFCW beacon running on 137.7000 kHz from before 0640 till 1215 UTC, send an ID of QQQQQ with 120 second dot length. The ZL6QH beacon will be on Saturday 15 March. 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10605 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 08:51:53 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 08:51:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26425 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 08:51:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 08:51:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tOQk-0005I0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:14 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tOQg-0005Hr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 28668 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 08:50:39 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 08:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c2e93d$7f499200$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:49:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, It seems to me that this transatlantic stuff is stretching the rules somewhat. a) It is difficult to send your callsign every 15 minutes when it takes that longer than that to send your callsign ! b) With people setting their transmitter to come on with timers in the early hours while they are asleep, you can hardly call it "attended" operation. c) There beacon type transmissions are more in the nature of a broadcast, than establishing contact, individually, with other licenced amateurs. I'm not saying anybody's doing anything "wrong" because it has all been very much within the spirit of amateur radio - I'm just wondering if the rules need to be looked at, and modified to allow the use of very low-speed communications. 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12075 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 08:22:29 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 08:22:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17417 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 08:22:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 08:22:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tNv6-00057R-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:18:32 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.173] (helo=cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tNv1-00057I-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:18:27 +0000 Received: from modem-76.akallabeth.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.100.204] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tNv0-0005qU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:18:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2e939$1f388280$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E4BC23500033F62@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:17:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: KL1X in G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: LF: KL1X in G Anchorage has suffered winds to over 100mph cutting power lines with a lot of fallen trees in my home area. My power was off beyond a time that my UPS could sustain hence the rx is off line (pooh). The winds are high again this evening too. Secondly the web site kl1x.com is STILL not being pointed by the domain name server owner but in the mean time you can put in 24.237.8.95 and see at least what the site will look like when I get back to Alaska and switch the 870 back on! The 4 instances of Argo are seen as blank black screens at the moment Running a remote system has many pitfalls and mother nature holds all the cards. Vy 73 Laurence Kl1X in Cumbria UK. Laurence Sorry to hear about the problems in Anchorage ! Hope the UK trip going well. Understand my coffee will stay hot in the future, Thanks,sorry not to meet you. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2053 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 04:54:31 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 04:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 26042 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 04:54:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 04:54:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tKiZ-0004eU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 04:53:23 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tKiV-0004eL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 04:53:19 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.1]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313045317.LXOK20683.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 04:53:17 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e91c$7eb76720$01ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 04:53:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A 13 Mar AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Have only caught the tail end of one transmission so am guessing about any others. Now transmitting AYZ at 60s dots on 137774.5 (I hope). Sequence of four, should take until 0715 approx. Hope springs eternal ! 73, Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6674 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 00:24:37 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 00:24:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13795 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 00:24:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 00:24:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tGSb-0003yj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:20:37 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tGSV-0003ya-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:20:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA3e6fce790b47 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:19:05 +0600 (OS) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:21:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.1 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Group. I have sucsessfuly QRSS10 QSO with UA9OC. Also I saw QSO RZ6LWZ and UA9OC All reports was O. My ERP was only about 10 mW. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8703 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 22:29:18 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 22:29:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24667 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 22:29:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 22:29:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tEfG-0003fC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:34 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEfC-0003f2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:30 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18tEfB-0004I4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:29 +0000 Message-ID: <010101c2e8e6$7294c630$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:26:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A test tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. Assuming the timer does its stuff I'll be on 137.7748 (+/- ?) from 0500 onward with the 100mW erp signal. 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 866 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 22:19:27 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 22:19:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5035 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 22:19:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 22:19:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tEYb-0003aq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:18:41 +0000 Received: from [212.74.114.40] (helo=mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEYW-0003ag-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:18:36 +0000 Received: from [212.74.114.6] (helo=mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18tEac-000PSd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:20:46 +0000 Received: from [80.225.129.222] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:16:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:16:33 +0000 Message-ID: <3E4BC23500033F62@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com> From: mrhowell@lineone.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: KL1X in G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Anchorage has suffered winds to over 100mph cutting power lines with a lot of fallen trees in my home area. My power was off beyond a time that my UPS could sustain hence the rx is off line (pooh). The winds are high again this evening too. Secondly the web site kl1x.com is STILL not being pointed by the domain name server owner but in the mean time you can put in 24.237.8.95 and see at least what the site will look like when I get back to Alaska and switch the 870 back on! The 4 instances of Argo are seen as blank black screens at the moment Running a remote system has many pitfalls and mother nature holds all the cards. Vy 73 Laurence Kl1X in Cumbria UK. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17256 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 21:32:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 21:32:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9253 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 21:32:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 21:32:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tDo5-0003Qe-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:30:37 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tDo0-0003Pg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:30:32 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA3e6fa5bf6b3e for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:25:19 +0600 (OS) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:28:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9OC Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I see there carrier now OOO. 137.7 kHz 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26484 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 19:55:57 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:55:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15212 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 19:55:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:55:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tCK1-000373-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:55:29 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tCJw-00036u-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:55:24 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.242]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312195524.SVJM11888.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:55:24 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2e8d1$42049280$f2e5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:54:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: EU Galore Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Lots of dx abt to nite two OH stns active earlier on normal CW strong. OH5UFO now so strong on QRS I had to attenuate the signal to avoid blurring the screen. S57A now CQ and strong good OOO on QRS. So far no QSO'S taking place just lots of CQ with Russian acty earlier. A good nite to WAEU (work all EU) especially on QRS for those interested. I am waiting to pounce on a couple when they go to hand sent CW.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15116 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:42:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3447 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:42:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tC52-00031h-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:40:00 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tC4x-00031R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:39:55 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030312193923.UQBA1065.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:39:23 +1300 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.55.146.251]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030312193921.EDST18586.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:39:21 +1300 Message-ID: <000d01c2e8cf$c12b2620$fb9237d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:43:38 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9OC signals in ZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Weak QRSS120 beacon signals from UA9OC were received by ZL2CA. Looking forward to seeing what happens with QRSS60 tonight. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18133 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 19:12:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:12:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8637 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 19:12:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 19:12:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tBch-0002tc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:10:43 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tBcb-0002tT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:10:37 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA3e6f86055a57 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:09:57 +0600 (OS) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:12:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.1 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I had copy UA9OC very nice 1 hour ago. But now there is no transmission from them. I try call them but my power is only about 10 mW ERP No answer yet. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11983 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 18:44:51 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22532 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 18:44:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:44:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tBCy-0002mX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:44:08 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tBCt-0002mO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:44:03 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.28]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312184403.LWZK12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:44:03 +0000 Message-ID: <004e01c2e8c7$4a23eec0$37e6fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:42:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: corrupt Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I copy RU6DMZ today as sent and not RU6LWZ, either a diff call or keying problem.
also sent C and end of calls and not K. Distance approx 2850 km. I should be able to copy the USA when they get 136 khz as long as they TX on a proper antenna and not a 1 metre stick or modified umbrella loop!!!!!!!!!!
 
G3KEV
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15570 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 18:31:38 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 789 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 18:31:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:31:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tB09-0002gv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:30:53 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tB04-0002gk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:30:48 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.230.55]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312183047.LNTF12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:30:47 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e8c5$7020e300$37e6fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:29:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RUSSIAN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Large signal on screen at 1656 utc a short time ago 12/03/03 RN6GN RU6DMZ after calls letter C
Booming in on my 90 ft vert loop and burning a hole on the screen with the vertical.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3880 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 18:11:21 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:11:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10914 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 18:11:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 18:11:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tAeM-0002ZH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:08:22 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tAeG-0002Z8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:08:16 +0000 Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.140]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030312180743.REWB1065.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:07:43 +1300 Received: from mcalevey ([210.55.81.91]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030312180742.CCCU6625.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:07:42 +1300 Message-ID: <000c01c2e8c2$45c36d10$5b5137d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:07:04 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: UA9 on 136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alex Nothing seen of RU9OC overnight here. Mike ZL4OL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26886 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 16:39:47 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 16:39:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16766 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 16:39:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 16:39:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t9F8-00029q-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:38:14 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t9F3-00029d-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:38:09 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.81]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25540 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c2e8b5$c63853a0$51dd21a2@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002f01c2e88f$ff3f48a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <3E6F5310.75CF045E@att.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:38:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gemini.smart.net id LAA25540 Subject: Re: LF: T/A 12 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Generally agree with Dex--CT1DRP had nice signal around 0600z and M0BMU seemed fair just below MP at that time and then around 0800z a weak ,I think G3AQC just above the loran .704 trace line. de Lloyd W3NF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: Re: LF: T/A 12 March Only CT1DRP was identifiable in NC overnight. Brian's signal was best from 0600 to 0700. After seeing John's captures I can see a trace of MØBNU just below MP. The DCF39 plot is a good indicator of my noise level which was about 20 db above a quiet night. DCF39 briefly reached it all time peak just after 0430 and was within 5 db of this peak from 0300 to 0530. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13951 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 16:17:31 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 16:17:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 6491 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 16:17:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 16:17:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t8tc-00020n-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:16:00 +0000 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t8tX-0001zf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:15:55 +0000 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu07.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.119]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA3e6f5c4c42eb; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:56 +0600 (OS) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:14:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: Hz@yahoogroups.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: UA9 on 136 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.2 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, group. Copy UA9OC on 137.7 kHz 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29644 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 15:58:29 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 15:58:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28732 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 15:58:29 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 15:58:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t8bQ-0001ph-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:57:12 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t8bJ-0001pY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:57:05 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HBN00KQ68A9SC@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:56:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:56:35 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <002f01c2e88f$ff3f48a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: T/A 12 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, A very scruffy shot from last night for about the same timeframe as John's is on w3eee.com. Noisy last night. Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7040 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 15:38:05 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 15:38:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23551 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 15:38:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 15:38:00 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t8E2-0001hu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:33:02 +0000 Received: from [166.82.181.250] (helo=dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t8Dx-0001hl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:32:57 +0000 Received: from att.net (computer1 [10.0.252.101]) by dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CFWbE23230 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:32:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6F5310.75CF045E@att.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:32:32 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <002f01c2e88f$ff3f48a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by dustmac.dustinmcintyre.com id h2CFWbE23230 Subject: Re: LF: T/A 12 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Only CT1DRP was identifiable in NC overnight. Brian's signal was best from 0600 to 0700. After seeing John's captures I can see a trace of MØBNU just below MP. The DCF39 plot is a good indicator of my noise level which was about 20 db above a quiet night. DCF39 briefly reached it all time peak just after 0430 and was within 5 db of this peak from 0300 to 0530. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6675 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 12:08:52 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 12:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24266 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 12:08:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 12:08:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t51D-0000uO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:07:35 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.23] (helo=dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t515-0000uF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:07:27 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 61880341 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:06:49 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01c2e88f$ff3f48a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:07:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A 12 March Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060001090708040403010204" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.1 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12, HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060001090708040403010204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Conditions were not as good overnight, but most of the players were visible on the stage. Get out your microscope and find M0BMU right under "MP" at 0345:
 
The best ensemble shot was taken around 0630, and can be found at:
It shows G3LDO, some fragments of Jim just below MP, Brian's DFCW, and Laurie's QRSS. I have not been able to find Dave in any of the shots.
 
John Andrews, W1TAG
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Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t4Wh-0000k3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:36:03 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t4Wc-0000ju-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:35:58 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18t4Vx-0000y7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:35:17 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18t4Vm-0004Nt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:35:06 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312111432.029e4300@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:34:59 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <002101c2e86e$a13ef6e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: T/A 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Nice QRSS3 signals from RU6LWZ on 137.700kHz last night - they were "O" copy from the time I arrived home at about 2030, until they apparently went to receive about half an hour later . I spent some time calling them using QRSS10 and QRSS30, but only time will tell if they saw anything. It was certainly a good signal here, audible at about S2 some of the time. I also left the TX running overnight until about 0600utc on 137.7725kHz, but I have a feeling I may have left it set up for QRSS30 - will be interested to see what came out! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11723 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 10:47:30 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 10:47:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13666 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 10:47:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 10:47:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t3km-0000VG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:46:32 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t3kh-0000V7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:46:27 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.204.80]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312104626.STXS22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:46:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c2e884$90333f80$50ccfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> <3E6DE208.55C11D1C@att.net> <3E6DF801.9BCE7097@snet.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:58:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137 TA 031103 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.7 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: LF: 137 TA 031103 report > Last night... > > http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137031103A.jpg > > I agree with John...sure would be nice to see a few more signals from across the > pond. With the signal levels we're seeing there should be enough margin for > somewhat weaker signals to squeek through. And, what about Mal? Hi Jay. Tnx for the mention hi. I am waiting for you boys to get fired up on 137 khz then I will be chasing a two way but in the meantime just watching and listening. There are a few others doing the same as myself. If we fired up we would burn a hole in your screen, especially MM0ALM in Scotland, the strongest signal around EU and beyond, also I am interested in a normal CW qso having proved last year that QRS is not really difficult, if one has the right antenna system and the appropriate rigs etc. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/Scarborough/IO94SH How come I haven't > had the pleasure to see him yet this year? > > Jay Rusgrove, W1VD > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14960 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 09:20:30 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 09:20:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3441 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 09:20:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 09:20:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t2Og-00007J-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:19:38 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.227] (helo=warrior.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t2Ob-000077-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:19:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 7996 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 09:19:02 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 09:19:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2e878$4b4c3400$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:18:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re: kite antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Alan and Jim, for the replys. G4VGO's site is excellent, and tells me just the things I was trying find out. And Jim's figure of 200ft agrees with the 60m quoted on the site. 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23125 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 09:01:42 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 09:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 28023 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 09:01:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 09:01:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t26B-0008RF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:00:31 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t265-0008QS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:00:25 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18t263-0004iA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:00:23 +0000 Message-ID: <005901c2e875$fcc03db0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002101c2e86e$a13ef6e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:01:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike No problem. I saw Jim calling the RU station and it occured to me that if anyone fired up at midnight 70Hz higher it would cause trouble that's all. I was on from 0500 on 137.7745 with 200W input but I think I was underneath Laurie judging by the screen shots on W1TAG's site. My DDS only moves in 0.5Hz steps, I'll go up one step tomorrow to just below 775 Cheers all. Dave G3YXM. > I took advantage of a calm night to transmit on 137.7732 all night. I was > accidentally using QRSS20 until 0500 when I awoke and realised what I had > done, and then changed to QRSS60. Did anyone spot anything? > > Dave, sorry if I caused QRM to the UA9 expedition. I had forgotten about > that. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23464 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 08:08:18 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 08:08:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16033 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 08:08:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 08:08:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18t1Gv-0008Fl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:07:33 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t1Gr-0008Fc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:07:29 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312080728.CHRN26467.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:07:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c2e86e$a13ef6e0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:08:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I took advantage of a calm night to transmit on 137.7732 all night. I was accidentally using QRSS20 until 0500 when I awoke and realised what I had done, and then changed to QRSS60. Did anyone spot anything? Dave, sorry if I caused QRM to the UA9 expedition. I had forgotten about that. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9260 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 04:14:27 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 04:14:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12204 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 04:14:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 04:14:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sxca-0007oh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:13:40 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sxcV-0007oY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:13:35 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2C4DNq05684 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:13:23 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:15:23 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: RE: RE: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false LOL!!! Good one Bill. Made me laugh!!! Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ashlock,William Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:57 PM To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Subject: LF: RE: RE: TA 11 March Mike, >You mean you don't stay up all night like Bill??? Of course he does. All Easterners are alike! During the late hours John spends the time touching up his captures from the night before to make us all think he has one heck of a receiving site. Bill From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1439 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 04:01:42 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 04:01:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 16446 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 04:01:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 04:01:42 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sxMj-0007dw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 03:57:17 +0000 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sxMe-0007dn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 03:57:12 +0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: William.Ashlock@edwards.boc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-4.messagelabs.com!1047441425!3492 Received: (qmail 9081 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 03:57:05 -0000 Received: from ukfw1.ge.boc.com (193.131.2.157) by server-21.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 03:57:05 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 03:57:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F4CZM7YW; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:01:37 -0000 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:57:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:57:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: RE: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, >You mean you don't stay up all night like Bill??? Of course he does. All Easterners are alike! During the late hours John spends the time touching up his captures from the night before to make us all think he has one heck of a receiving site. Bill _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9833 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 01:06:51 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 01:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 24652 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Mar 2003 01:06:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 01:06:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sugp-0007LT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:05:51 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sugl-0007LK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:05:47 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2C15eq27822 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:05:40 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:07:39 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <000801c2e824$3b02c860$0500a8c0@charter.net> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false You mean you don't stay up all night like Bill??? Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:16 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: TA 11 March Mike, > Hey John, > Were you able to hear those signals??? While asleep? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7691 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 23:18:01 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:18:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 29851 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 23:17:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:17:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sszr-0006yT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:17:23 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.15] (helo=mx05.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sszn-0006yC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:17:19 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 85932258 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c2e824$696e53e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:17:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 11-12 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Screen capture of 137.772-137.775 is running at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg Updated every 15 minutes. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6588 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 23:16:45 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29285 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 23:16:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:16:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ssyV-0006xW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:15:59 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.13] (helo=dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssyQ-0006we-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:15:55 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 102066882 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:15:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c2e824$3b02c860$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:16:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, > Hey John, > Were you able to hear those signals??? While asleep? John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24083 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 23:14:15 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:14:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3215 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 23:14:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 23:14:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ssva-0006va-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:12:58 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssvW-0006vR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:12:54 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18ssvW-0007ZC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:12:54 +0000 Message-ID: <00b401c2e823$e6135040$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:13:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: UA9 and T/A beacons Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear all.
 
Might I suggest that we hold off the T/A beacon tests until the suggested 0500 onward window whilst the UA9 expedition is on the air? It's going to be impossible to copy them if we beacon so close to their frequency of 137.700.
 
73
Dave G3YXM.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11063 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 22:42:22 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:42:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8343 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 22:42:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:42:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ssRA-0006kX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:41:32 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssR5-0006kN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:41:28 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2BMfMq19858 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:41:22 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:43:18 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: CT1DRP copied in London Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I wonder if Lyle (K0LR) can see those signals in Minnesota since they are so strong in London??? Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Powell Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:02 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: CT1DRP copied in London Hello all: Well - that is London, Ontario, Canada. First time capture, and nice signals from Brian and also a letter or two from Laurie, G3AQC. Very pleased that conditions are holding this late as we approach Springtime here in London. Temperature was -15C, and 1 meter of snow in back garden. Receiving antenna - inverted L - 45 ft - with approx 150 feet of top hat in all directions there are trees. Full captures are at web site: http://www3.sympatico.ca/m_powell/ct1drp.htm Distances - CT1DRP 3674 miles (5913 kM) G3AQC 3654 miles (5881 kM) 73 Mitch VE3OT ( MP on 137772.8 ) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4995 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 22:27:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:27:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25827 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 22:27:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:27:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ssD9-0006dA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:27:03 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssD4-0006cz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:59 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2BMQrq19065 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:26:53 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:28:49 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hey John, Were you able to hear those signals??? They look very strong. I hear Ralph's CW beacon on 164.5kc when ARGO shows it at -64db or close to that. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Andrews Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:03 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TA 11 March CT1DRP was visible during most of the overnight, until about 0800. Saw G3LDO from 2300 until 0030, and again starting at 0445. Looks like G3AQC started around 0540. The best screen shot of the trio was at 0630: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/031103.jpg These can't be the ONLY three EU stations visible here! Anyone else who wishes to try at present should focus on the 0530 - 0630 UTC period, between 137.772 and 137.775 kHz, with something that's readable on an Argo 60 second screen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19135 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 22:19:33 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:19:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19564 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 22:19:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:19:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ss5U-0006Yx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:19:08 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ss5P-0006Yo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:19:03 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2BMIwq18583 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:18:58 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:20:54 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030310115621.02d545f8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE, ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I run QRS 3.17 in Windows 3.11 with the serial port and it works great. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Weekend acty... Hello Rich, sorry to hear that you couldn't be active in QRSS due to problems with Win2000 and the parallel port. But it is a known problem. It is because - in contradiction to the serial port - cannot be on "pin level" accessed via the windows API (at least I don't know how ... if someone knows all info is welcome) so I had to access some memory locations direct. It works under any windows version that is not "NT-like", so up to Win98 and not for Win20000, XP etc ... But the serial port should work under any Win version. I (and probably many other programmers) dream of the sweet days of DOS when a PC was an "open box" and almost any port (and function such as the hardware timer) could be easily accessed. But then came Mr. G. and decided that everything would be better if he made things more complicated ... 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:11 10/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi LF-ers... > >Again a nice trip to my second QTH. We have worked ONLY CW under the calls >OM2TW and OM2KM. Worked DK7SU, DJ2LF, YU7AR, S57A, G3LDO (for the first >time), HA6PX, SM1LCA and OZ1KMR. We did some tests with G3LNP loop. I'm very >sorry to Jose EA1PX, Brian CT1DRP, Ian MI0AYZ and all LF-ers from over the >pond - we were NOT QRV on QRSS due to a software problem. Normaly I'm using >my LF station on QRSS at home with QRS 3.17 under Win98. In the second QTH I >have an notebook with W2k and just around 2200Z I find out, that QRS doesn't >work with W2k on the parallel port. I had a skeds with Jose, Brian and Ian >and want to try another T/A test - for the first time from my second QTH. I >was sad...therfore we were NOT on QRSS....so maybe another time. > >73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31924 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 22:12:23 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12883 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 22:12:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 22:12:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sry2-0006TC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:11:26 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18srxx-0006T3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:11:21 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-73-4.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.73.4] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18srxw-0002Ub-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:11:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c2e81b$138c0660$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:56:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A timings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Thanks for the screen grabs Mitch. They are very interesting. You will note that Steve's DCF plot slowed a slow climb to a single peak at about 0200z. Then Steve shows a steady decline. I think there may be more "hops" in the DCF path so that there is more absorption. Another interesting point is that the "fade-out" at about 0745 is the time where the daylight edge is about 25% of the way across the pond. This means that the D-layer at the path central point is just beginning to be illuminated. I notice also that there is a fade just before that. The falling edge of the earlier fade would be as the daylight edge reaches Porto and the D-layer would be illuminater to about the 25% point...starting to kill the "first bounce" of the 2 hop signal. As the D-layer over the central Atlantic is illuminated the "1-hop" signal would be wiped out. Well that is my explanation, it may not be correct......but its a good hypothesis to throw up and let it be "shot at". Good Hunting Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7910 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 21:13:06 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 21:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10727 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 21:13:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 21:13:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sr2e-00068Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:12:08 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.135] (helo=tnetsmtp1.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sr2W-00068O-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:12:00 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([213.99.200.202]) by tnetsmtp1.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HBLS7Z00.LEE for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:11:59 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c2e812$ca5dde80$cac863d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:11:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: OK1DTN Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all:
 
Copied some CQ´s from OK1DTN between 20 and 21 UTC, QRSS3, with "O" signals. I think he is 2006 km away. Is he in the reflector??
 
73 de José,EA1PX loc IN53TI
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27047 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 21:01:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 21:01:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26795 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 21:01:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 21:01:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sqrT-00064O-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:00:35 +0000 Received: from [209.226.175.189] (helo=tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sqrO-00062P-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from [65.93.71.170] by tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030311210027.VJMW16866.tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net@[65.93.71.170]> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:00:27 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:01:36 -0500 From: "Mitch Powell" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: CT1DRP copied in London Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.1 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_MACOEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello all: Well - that is London, Ontario, Canada. First time capture, and nice signals from Brian and also a letter or two from Laurie, G3AQC. Very pleased that conditions are holding this late as we approach Springtime here in London. Temperature was -15C, and 1 meter of snow in back garden. Receiving antenna - inverted L - 45 ft - with approx 150 feet of top hat in all directions there are trees. Full captures are at web site: http://www3.sympatico.ca/m_powell/ct1drp.htm Distances - CT1DRP 3674 miles (5913 kM) G3AQC 3654 miles (5881 kM) 73 Mitch VE3OT ( MP on 137772.8 ) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14623 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:57:58 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:57:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15289 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:57:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:57:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18spry-0005mM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:57:02 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sprt-0005mD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:56:57 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2BJupc02644 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id OAA20380; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:56:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008901c2e809$daa82ec0$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> <007f01c2e804$6ef701b0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:07:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, et al: >It saves on electricity and it's less > likely to catch fire too! Or maybe the flames will just be 10 dB lower! BTW - Everyone please avoid 137,774 exactly, as most of the likely listeners here have a Loran line at 774.03. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21885 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:32:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18804 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:32:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18spPi-0005XJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:27:50 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18spPZ-0005XA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:27:41 +0000 Received: from host217-34-95-109.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.95.109] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18spPU-0003PO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:27:36 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01c2e804$6ef701b0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:28:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear T/A listeners.. I thought that it might be useful to put out a lower power transmission to accompany the big boys. I will radiate a -10dB signal for the next few nights and see if that makes it. It saves on electricity and it's less likely to catch fire too! Dave Pick G3YXM. > These can't be the ONLY three EU stations visible here! Anyone else who > wishes to try at present should focus on the 0530 - 0630 UTC period, between > 137.772 and 137.775 kHz, with something that's readable on an Argo 60 second > screen. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16522 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:01:47 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:01:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7175 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:01:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:01:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sozo-0005Py-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:01:04 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sozj-0005Pf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:00:59 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-17.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.17] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18sozi-000Mn8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:00:58 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c2e800$9a7e2ec0$111686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001301c2e7de$9d2e2c00$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:59:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, G3XDV said > These are by far the strongest stations you are likely to see. I will try to > add my signal to the fray, but need a timer to switch the Tx on at 0500 or > so. This is important as I can't leave the Tx on overnight too often for > safety reasons. Will let you know as soon as I have the timer set up. Of > course, I could get up at 0500, but I just know this will trigger a > migraine! I run about 100mW, so it will require good conditions to work. I still use G4JNT's QRSS DOS program. This means that you can run it on something like a 386 or 486 (remember those!) laptops that people throw away these days. Furthermore it has a timer that works off the computer date/time thingy so that you can switch the transmitter on and off at predetermined times. If you want a copy of this program I can send it to you - Andy always made his programs free to all. I am all in favour of getting as many stations on for TA stuff as possible. I also think the QRSS mode might be better for this type of test instead of DFCW to allow the maximum number of stations into a 60 dot window. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25973 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 17:52:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:52:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 16223 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 17:52:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:52:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18snuq-00053O-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:51:52 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18snul-00053C-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:51:47 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2BHpfc16341 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id MAA15884; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:51:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007a01c2e7f8$5e360760$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002701c2e7ef$6fa85ce0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:02:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: QRP T/A crossings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan, > The problem we > found in cooperation with John VE1ZJ was that the lowest local noise on the > E.Coast was around 2 hours after local sundown. I theorised that the noise > was "coming in on the nightime skywave" and there wasn't much in > Mid-Atlantic. VE1ZJ was in a somewhat more pristine setting than I am. My neighborhood is quite built-up, and not very RF quiet. The evening hours are noisy, but things seem to calm down after midnight (0500Z) local time. An Argo 3 second screen is very "busy" at all hours, and lacks the serenity of the 60 second version! So, my observations about the 0500 - 0700 period may have more to do with my neighbors than about atmospheric noise. > Noise build up during the summer is a well known problem but I feel it is a > mistake to write May to October off completely. There were many "Statically > quiet " days days here during the summer. True, but the more southerly latitudes tend to be noisier. You U.K fellows live closer to Santa Claus than I do, to say nothing of Dex, who is considerably south of me. That being said, we've had some interesting successes with the U.S. "lowfer" stuff during the warmer months. You just have to be patient. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24634 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 17:10:39 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:10:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 10022 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 17:10:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:10:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18snGF-0004WP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:09:55 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18snG8-0004Vz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:09:48 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18snFj-00008h-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:09:23 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18snFX-0005BF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:09:12 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030311164920.00afc350@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:59:25 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <001001c2e7eb$7a934d80$3704210a@Hugh> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Kite Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 16:20 11/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Hi All, >Does anyone know (or know where I can find out) the maximum height to which >one is allowed to fly a kite in the UK (away from airfields) ? >i.e. How high could I legally make a kite antenna ? I think the limit is 200ft, unless you make special arrangements with the relevant authorities. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24081 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 17:05:13 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:05:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3178 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 17:05:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 17:05:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18snB3-0004On-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:04:33 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18snAx-0004OW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:04:28 +0000 Received: from host213-122-211-31.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.211.31] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18snAw-0006vl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:04:26 +0000 Message-ID: <003501c2e7f0$2fc370a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2e7eb$7a934d80$3704210a@Hugh> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:03:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Kite Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Hugh see the web site of one of my locals www.qsl.net/g4vgo/index.htm it cover Kites and balloons and has a lot of detail. He is not an LFer but has used these to great effect on 160m Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: Sent: 11 March 2003 16:20 Subject: LF: Kite Antennas > Hi All, > Does anyone know (or know where I can find out) the maximum height to which > one is allowed to fly a kite in the UK (away from airfields) ? > i.e. How high could I legally make a kite antenna ? > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11971 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 16:53:06 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 16:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25084 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 16:53:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 16:53:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18smzQ-0004Cx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:52:32 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18smzH-0004Cj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:52:23 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.126]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030311165222.EMMA12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:52:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c2e7ee$9a6f18c0$7eccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:51:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false OK you Yanks, you asked for it! I shall burn your eyes out some of these mornings :-) Joking aside, my setup is very similar to that of XDV but I am a bit closer and since I have (a) insomnia and (b) used this to sit up several nights testing the BK into a dummy load at QRSS60, I will add my two bits worth the next time I can't sleep. Will transmit AYZ continuously for two hours in the 0430z - 0800z timeslot, or until something packs up. Probably won't be Wednesday AM because last nights chloral hydrate failed to work at all - and that usually means a short course of death the following night. But you never know. Will slot in where I can and post my frequency on the reflector at the time I start keying the TX. 73, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17489 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 16:33:15 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 16:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27431 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 16:33:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 16:33:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18smfN-00040l-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:31:49 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18smf8-000403-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:31:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 11909 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 16:31:00 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 16:31:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e7eb$7a934d80$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:20:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Kite Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Does anyone know (or know where I can find out) the maximum height to which one is allowed to fly a kite in the UK (away from airfields) ? i.e. How high could I legally make a kite antenna ? 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11720 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:42:28 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 589 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:42:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:42:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18slt2-0003fU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:41:52 +0000 Received: from [195.110.100.4] (helo=mail.dada.it) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18slsw-0003fB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:41:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 24842 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:41:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cestag) (195.110.103.85) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:41:09 -0000 Message-ID: <002501c2e7e4$dc659600$55676ec3@cestag> From: "cesare tagliabue" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2e7c2$b70f4c60$a5e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:42:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: R: I5TGC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Hello Mal
    Many thanks for report, it's always a pleasure to know that, obliged to use a limited space antenna and with only 200 W applied, my signals are well received in IO94SH. Best 73 es GL  Cesare
 
Cesare Tagliabue   I 5 TGC
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-----Messaggio Originale-----
Data invio: martedì 11 marzo 2003 12.37
Oggetto: LF: I5TGC

CQ I5TGC - 11-03-03/1042 UTC this morning good OOO copy on 137.7 khz - distance about 1450 km from me.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 902 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:33:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:33:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23198 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 15:33:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:33:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18slk2-0003cL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:32:34 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sljw-0003cA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:32:29 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2BFUJc16620 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id KAA06478; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601c2e7e4$9f567b80$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001301c2e7de$9d2e2c00$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:41:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, > These are by far the strongest stations you are likely to see. Agreed. One of the things that's troubling us over here is our likely 100 watt transmitter output limitation. It would be comforting to see some of the "smaller" EU signals, to give us some hope! Most of the U.S. guys that post here regularly would be happy to look for the weaker signals, but we need some clue as to where and when they'll be. I do believe that I copied you last winter, and I recall a couple of nights where there were significantly more stations visible. The emphasis lately has been on the pre-sunrise (U.K.) path, which may be a little kinder for those who have to work for a living. The signal levels have certainly been better than in the 0000 - 0300 range. And time is not our friend here, as Dex is already reporting the springtime noise increase that works its way from south to north. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5863 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:17:13 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:17:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21770 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 15:17:12 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:17:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18slUT-0003Vp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:16:29 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18slUN-0003V8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:16:23 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HBL000R2BPXCQ@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:15:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:15:17 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <09XR95TQTRNJ76GTOSQ6Z1VZWJHLH2Z.3e6dfd85@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, An overnight capture is at w3eee.com Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14514 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:04:08 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15233 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 15:04:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 15:04:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18slHx-0003OK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:03:33 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18slHm-0003OB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:03:22 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030311150321.FQQY26467.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:03:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c2e7de$9d2e2c00$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:58:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > These can't be the ONLY three EU stations visible here! Anyone else who > wishes to try at present should focus on the 0530 - 0630 UTC period, between > 137.772 and 137.775 kHz, with something that's readable on an Argo 60 second > screen. > John Andrews, W1TAG John, These are by far the strongest stations you are likely to see. I will try to add my signal to the fray, but need a timer to switch the Tx on at 0500 or so. This is important as I can't leave the Tx on overnight too often for safety reasons. Will let you know as soon as I have the timer set up. Of course, I could get up at 0500, but I just know this will trigger a migraine! I run about 100mW, so it will require good conditions to work. My QRSS60 was seen by VE1ZJ two years ago (see http://www.lf.thersgb.net/gallery/xdv-ve1zj.htm), so it is possible to cross the pond with 'QRP'. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30239 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 14:52:18 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 14:52:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4259 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 14:52:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 14:52:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sl6B-0003HG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:51:23 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sl65-0003H6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:51:18 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.45.79] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (204.60.45.79.snet.net [204.60.45.79] (may be forged)) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2BEp9dg007702 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:51:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E6DF801.9BCE7097@snet.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:51:45 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> <3E6DE208.55C11D1C@att.net> Subject: LF: 137 TA 031103 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Last night... http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137031103A.jpg I agree with John...sure would be nice to see a few more signals from across the pond. With the signal levels we're seeing there should be enough margin for somewhat weaker signals to squeek through. And, what about Mal? How come I haven't had the pleasure to see him yet this year? Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19345 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 13:20:19 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 13:20:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16282 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 13:20:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 13:20:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sje5-0002u5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:18:17 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sjdx-0002tw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:18:10 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030311131932.LSAL3575.host4@att.net> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:19:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6DE208.55C11D1C@att.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:18:00 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Best overnight capture of the trio in NC: http://www.w4dex.com/argo/11mar03/137khz00003.jpg John's capture shows the three signals to be a lot closer in strength than what I saw. CT1DRP was much stronger here, possibly due to the latitude of the paths? W4DEX John Andrews wrote: > > CT1DRP was visible during most of the overnight, until about 0800. Saw G3LDO > from 2300 until 0030, and again starting at 0445. Looks like G3AQC started > around 0540. The best screen shot of the trio was at 0630: > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/031103.jpg > > These can't be the ONLY three EU stations visible here! Anyone else who > wishes to try at present should focus on the 0530 - 0630 UTC period, between > 137.772 and 137.775 kHz, with something that's readable on an Argo 60 second > screen. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18943 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 12:03:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 12:03:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1519 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 12:03:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 12:03:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18siSy-0002b0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:02:44 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.21] (helo=dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18siSs-0002aR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:02:38 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 56230651 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c2e7c6$2c229540$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:03:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 11 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP was visible during most of the overnight, until about 0800. Saw G3LDO from 2300 until 0030, and again starting at 0445. Looks like G3AQC started around 0540. The best screen shot of the trio was at 0630: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/031103.jpg These can't be the ONLY three EU stations visible here! Anyone else who wishes to try at present should focus on the 0530 - 0630 UTC period, between 137.772 and 137.775 kHz, with something that's readable on an Argo 60 second screen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8821 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:39:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 16376 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 11:39:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:39:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18si60-0002RP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:39:00 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18si5r-0002RG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:38:51 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.165]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030311113850.PFI27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:38:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2e7c2$b70f4c60$a5e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: I5TGC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
CQ I5TGC - 11-03-03/1042 UTC this morning good OOO copy on 137.7 khz - distance about 1450 km from me.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8064 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 11:11:25 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 25408 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 11:11:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:11:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18shap-0002FL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:06:47 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.110] (helo=cmsrelay01.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18shaj-0002FA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:06:41 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:06:39 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.99] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 450HckLgK0119M31; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:06:37 GMT Message-ID: <3E6DC34B.1070303@usa.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:06:51 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200303101918_MC3-1-2EC1-A7EE@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: LF: Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Prof R. Jennison wrote: >[...] > A message appears on the screen: > > Write fault error writing device AUX Abort,Retry, Ignore, Fail. > > > Are you sure that a virus is the originator of that message ? Couldn't it be a legitimate message from Windows ? It looks like some program in you PC is trying to access the serial port, and for some reasons it doesn't succeed. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15482 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 00:46:29 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:46:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12057 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 00:46:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:46:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sXtr-0000vn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:45:47 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sXtm-0000ve-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:45:42 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h2B0ja812621 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:45:36 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:47:22 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <200303101918_MC3-1-2EC1-A7EE@compuserve.com> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I would just reformat the drive and start from scratch. You might want to low level format the drive before doing the regular format as I have found some drives still messed up without low level formatting first. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Prof R. Jennison Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Please help! I am using my old Macintosh to send this appeal because my PC caught a virus some months ago, very probably on this channel, and I cannot get rid of it. I noted that a number of colleagues in the group also received the bug and that they eventualy succeeded in expunging it. I have not been so succesful. I twice swept the whole system with a four year old version of Norton Antivirus to no avail, so last Saturday I bought a 2003 version of Norton and twice swept the whole system with that. Alas the bug is still there and pops up on all programs after a variable interval, sometimes immediately after start-up but on other occasions it may delay for up to one hour. A message appears on the screen: Write fault error writing device AUX Abort,Retry, Ignore, Fail. I have to crash the computer and start all over again. I dare not use it for e-mails and that is why I have retrieved my old faithful Mac to send this cry for help. Please forgive me for addressing this to the whole LF group but I sincerely hope that some of you may help an 80 year old timer who has no time for ham radio whilst his days are spent trying to suppress this bug! - I hate digital computers but they can be useful! 73, Roger, G2AJV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17537 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 00:34:21 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10119 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 00:34:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:34:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sXi2-0000qW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:33:34 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.12] (helo=dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sXhx-0000qN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:33:29 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 1087884 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:32:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c2e765$c241cac0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:32:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 137 kHz 10/11 March 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Looks like that's G3LDO on 137,773.0 John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19712 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 00:19:55 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:19:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21757 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 00:19:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:19:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sXUG-0000lY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:19:20 +0000 Received: from [149.174.40.8] (helo=siaag1af.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sXUA-0000l9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:19:15 +0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/SUN-2.4) id h2B0Ih0T028641 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:18:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:18:23 -0500 From: "Prof R. Jennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <200303101918_MC3-1-2EC1-A7EE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: LF: Please help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I am using my old Macintosh to send this appeal because my PC caught a virus some months ago, very probably on this channel, and I cannot get rid of it. I noted that a number of colleagues in the group also received the bug and that they eventualy succeeded in expunging it. I have not been so succesful. I twice swept the whole system with a four year old version of Norton Antivirus to no avail, so last Saturday I bought a 2003 version of Norton and twice swept the whole system with that. Alas the bug is still there and pops up on all programs after a variable interval, sometimes immediately after start-up but on other occasions it may delay for up to one hour. A message appears on the screen: Write fault error writing device AUX Abort,Retry, Ignore, Fail. I have to crash the computer and start all over again. I dare not use it for e-mails and that is why I have retrieved my old faithful Mac to send this cry for help. Please forgive me for addressing this to the whole LF group but I sincerely hope that some of you may help an 80 year old timer who has no time for ham radio whilst his days are spent trying to suppress this bug! - I hate digital computers but they can be useful! 73, Roger, G2AJV. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22149 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 00:00:04 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:00:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 21310 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Mar 2003 00:00:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 00:00:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sXBA-0000f2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:59:36 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.22] (helo=dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sXB5-0000em-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:59:31 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 99506208 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c2e761$15f1b040$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:59:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz 10/11 March 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'm seeing CT1DRP and MP very well at 0000. There is another signal on 137,773.0 which I haven't ID'd. It's in a fade at the moment. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32548 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 23:54:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 23:54:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14198 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 23:54:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 23:54:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sX59-0000bE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:53:23 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sX54-0000b5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:53:18 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030310235442.MKZ3575.host4@att.net> for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:54:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6D2568.B55370AF@att.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:53:12 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: 137 kHz 10/11 March 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP visible in NC at sunset. DCF39 only 15 db above noise. Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26906 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 18:41:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 18:41:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14241 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 18:40:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 18:40:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sSBc-0008IS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:39:44 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sSBX-0008II-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:39:40 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18sSBN-0004eq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:39:29 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18sSBC-00011E-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:39:18 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030310182131.00aff6a8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:39:16 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: YU7AR, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, I was very pleased to work YU7AR on Saturday evening for another new country. He was visible on the computer screen just as I arrived home, with a very nice signal in QRSS3. I also worked I5TGC, who is a consistent QRSS signal these days, and saw EA1PX using QRSS10, but no reply. Sorry to miss the OM portable operation; I was out during the day on both Saturday and Sunday, and so did not have the opportunity to work in CW. Hope to do so next time... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30480 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 17:08:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 17:08:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16899 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 17:08:46 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 17:08:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sQko-0007tZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:07:58 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sQkj-0007tQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:07:53 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HBJ00LFKM8901@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:55:19 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <3E6C9B47.3F8F1318@att.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <64E9GAF0SMWVLJ3XE0B0XTA7QKOJ94ED.3e6cc377@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: TA 10 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, Best (not saying much) snapshot from last night is on w3eee.com. Another case of OK-ish propagation, hacked up by static. Recognizable traces of DFCW from both G3AQC Laurie and CT1DRP Brian. Just as a bit of an experiment, I decided to add a 'spoiler' or reference trace, a la astronomical observations. That's the line at the top, at 137.7751kHz ; it's from a couple of inches of wire poked into the BNC on the back of a big lump of Hewlett Packard, some 150 feet from the antenna. Notice how it's getting holes punched in it from the static crashes. I'm uncertain of the provenance of the big fat line at about 773.8, (posh for I don't know where it's coming from) but it, too, is obviously being radiated and received, and likewise chopped up. It is otherwise very consistent and very stable - PLC maybe - but never shows any sign of modulation. The NE Canada Loran line at 774.03 looks a bit sad; on a clean night it's quite a few dB bigger. And that's the Abominable Snowman on 772.9-ish. Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28071 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 16:23:25 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 16:23:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14482 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 16:23:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 16:23:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sQ2U-0007eh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:22:10 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sQ2K-0007eV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:22:01 +0000 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2AGLuc16888 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id LAA15542; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:21:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001c01c2e722$a7665100$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002701c2e720$20812720$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:32:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie, > How much power is MP running ? do we stand a chance of seeing him I wonder. 100 watts transmitter output. Based on my luck at seeing stations in that category from EU, I doubt that there's much chance. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29242 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 16:16:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 16:16:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19295 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 16:16:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 16:16:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sPvF-0007Z1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:14:41 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sPv8-0007Ys-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:14:34 +0000 Received: from modem-13.arda.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.122.13] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18sPv7-0002rB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:14:33 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c2e720$20812720$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:12:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks John and Jay for the reports and captures. The Kp index was 3 falling to 2 then up to 3 again so not very good condx which is no doubt why Dex did not see me. We are getting further from the minor storm of the 4th, I guess there is a small chance that things will improve so long as the index stays down. However its up to 4 now !!! so I might just stay in bed Hi. Will check later. How much power is MP running ? do we stand a chance of seeing him I wonder. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25167 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 14:36:10 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 14:36:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 5600 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 14:36:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 14:36:10 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sOLc-00073h-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:33:48 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sOLQ-00073Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:33:36 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.252.235.15] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (15.235.252.64.snet.net [64.252.235.15]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h2AEXMdg026954 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:33:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E6CA254.C276A45@snet.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:33:56 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <001101c2e6b0$031a8f20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <002001c2e6fd$9bc9c040$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: LF: 137 TA 031003 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Here's a representative capture from last night in CT. http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137031003.jpg Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2830 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 14:04:42 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 14:04:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29516 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 14:04:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 14:04:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sNsn-0006u8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:04:01 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sNsi-0006tz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:03:56 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030310140519.QRKZ3575.host4@att.net> for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:05:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6C9B47.3F8F1318@att.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:03:51 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <001101c2e6b0$031a8f20$0500a8c0@charter.net> <002001c2e6fd$9bc9c040$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 10 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false MP was slightly above the QRN but only a trace of DRP here in NC. Dex John Andrews wrote: > > Beautiful signals overnight from G3AQC and CT1DRP in DFCW, and VE3OT's "MP" > in QRSS mode. A shot from 0645: > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/AQDRMP.jpg > > John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30975 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 13:13:50 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 13:13:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4650 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 13:13:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 13:13:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sN4b-0006fm-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:12:09 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.113] (helo=cmsrelay04.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sN4U-0006fd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:12:02 +0000 Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 13:11:51 -0000 Received: from usa.net [62.94.109.19] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 989HcJNLW0416M30; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:11:48 GMT Message-ID: <3E6C8F16.3000009@usa.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:11:50 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030310115621.02d545f8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Subject: Re: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Rik Strobbe wrote: > But it is a known problem. It is because - in contradiction to the > serial port - cannot be on "pin level" accessed via the windows API > (at least I don't know how ... if someone knows all info is welcome) Rik, I have a solution, but for the C language. I used it in Jason. If I recall correctly, QRSS is not written in C, but rather in Delphi (or another flavour of Pascal). If you can manage to call a C routine from your program, maybe we can find a solution for that. 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19979 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 12:20:16 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:20:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3440 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 12:20:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:20:15 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sMFq-0006Rh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:19:42 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sMFl-0006RY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:19:37 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h2ACJad26892 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:19:36 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h2ACJTRH000534 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:19:30 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED67@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:19:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: RE: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Yes, Rik I know about this problem, but I fogot on it. Realy my mistake. Problem is that the serial port on my notebook is connected to the mobil phone for GPRS connection to the Internet (DX-cluster). Never mind, must do it for serial port for the next trip. Best regards... 73 de Rich OM2TW -----Original Message----- From: Rik Strobbe [mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Weekend acty... Hello Rich, sorry to hear that you couldn't be active in QRSS due to problems with Win2000 and the parallel port. But it is a known problem. It is because - in contradiction to the serial port - cannot be on "pin level" accessed via the windows API (at least I don't know how ... if someone knows all info is welcome) so I had to access some memory locations direct. It works under any windows version that is not "NT-like", so up to Win98 and not for Win20000, XP etc ... But the serial port should work under any Win version. I (and probably many other programmers) dream of the sweet days of DOS when a PC was an "open box" and almost any port (and function such as the hardware timer) could be easily accessed. But then came Mr. G. and decided that everything would be better if he made things more complicated ... 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:11 10/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi LF-ers... > >Again a nice trip to my second QTH. We have worked ONLY CW under the calls >OM2TW and OM2KM. Worked DK7SU, DJ2LF, YU7AR, S57A, G3LDO (for the first >time), HA6PX, SM1LCA and OZ1KMR. We did some tests with G3LNP loop. I'm very >sorry to Jose EA1PX, Brian CT1DRP, Ian MI0AYZ and all LF-ers from over the >pond - we were NOT QRV on QRSS due to a software problem. Normaly I'm using >my LF station on QRSS at home with QRS 3.17 under Win98. In the second QTH I >have an notebook with W2k and just around 2200Z I find out, that QRS doesn't >work with W2k on the parallel port. I had a skeds with Jose, Brian and Ian >and want to try another T/A test - for the first time from my second QTH. I >was sad...therfore we were NOT on QRSS....so maybe another time. > >73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27263 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 12:07:33 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:07:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20343 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 12:07:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:07:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sM3Z-0006KL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:01 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.17] (helo=mx07.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sM3U-0006KC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:06:56 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 50559856 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c2e6fd$9bc9c040$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <001101c2e6b0$031a8f20$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 10 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Beautiful signals overnight from G3AQC and CT1DRP in DFCW, and VE3OT's "MP" in QRSS mode. A shot from 0645: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/AQDRMP.jpg John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12837 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 11:52:05 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 24999 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 11:52:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:52:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sLoF-0006Db-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:51:11 +0000 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk ident=mail) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sLoA-0006DS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:51:06 +0000 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18sLoA-00030J-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:51:06 +0000 Received: from a7j7r2 (bts-0298.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.49.42]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4.sec) with SMTP id h2ABp0Vw015529 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:51:01 GMT Message-ID: <006801c2e6fa$b748a8c0$2a31f7c2@a7j7r2> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:20:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Bone conduction microphone/earpiece Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I am trying to identify this device, which I believe was used as part of a cable-based system known as a Talking Rope, which was used by divers to communicate with the surface. I saw one of these systems last year. The whole thing was in working order, but the stores codes were largely illegible and it was not possible to borrow the equipment. The overall system seems to contain several parts. First of all a headset for the surface operator (I have a box of these in varying states of completeness). I also have a couple of diecast boxes containing some kind of potted amplifier, an on/off switch and space for a 9V battery. Second, the Rope that goes between the two ends. The one I saw was bright orange and the wires ran down the middle. I do not have one of these. Finally, the microphone/earpiece which is goes under a diver's helmet and rests against the skull, somewhere in the vicinity of the ear. This earpiece is in a black plastic housing about 36 mm in diameter and 15 mm thick. It has a screened lead with an inner conductor of 7/0.3mm (0.3 approximate). The screen is a woven mixture of copper wire and fibre. The underside of the earpiece has a clear plastic cover. There is a stores code on the lead but it is not easy to read. My best estimate of what it says is AP 0558/197925. Can anybody identify the device or suggest a possible source of information? Regards, John Rabson G3PAI Editor Cave Radio and Electronics Journal From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12897 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 11:08:53 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:08:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29915 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 11:08:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:08:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sL8z-0005zM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:08:33 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sL8u-0005ys-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:08:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65B31F31A4 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224601F3113 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8485AEA47 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:07:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030310115621.02d545f8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:08:17 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED62@btss103a.swh.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Rich, sorry to hear that you couldn't be active in QRSS due to problems with Win2000 and the parallel port. But it is a known problem. It is because - in contradiction to the serial port - cannot be on "pin level" accessed via the windows API (at least I don't know how ... if someone knows all info is welcome) so I had to access some memory locations direct. It works under any windows version that is not "NT-like", so up to Win98 and not for Win20000, XP etc ... But the serial port should work under any Win version. I (and probably many other programmers) dream of the sweet days of DOS when a PC was an "open box" and almost any port (and function such as the hardware timer) could be easily accessed. But then came Mr. G. and decided that everything would be better if he made things more complicated ... 73, Rik ON7YD At 10:11 10/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi LF-ers... > >Again a nice trip to my second QTH. We have worked ONLY CW under the calls >OM2TW and OM2KM. Worked DK7SU, DJ2LF, YU7AR, S57A, G3LDO (for the first >time), HA6PX, SM1LCA and OZ1KMR. We did some tests with G3LNP loop. I'm very >sorry to Jose EA1PX, Brian CT1DRP, Ian MI0AYZ and all LF-ers from over the >pond - we were NOT QRV on QRSS due to a software problem. Normaly I'm using >my LF station on QRSS at home with QRS 3.17 under Win98. In the second QTH I >have an notebook with W2k and just around 2200Z I find out, that QRS doesn't >work with W2k on the parallel port. I had a skeds with Jose, Brian and Ian >and want to try another T/A test - for the first time from my second QTH. I >was sad...therfore we were NOT on QRSS....so maybe another time. > >73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10855 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 11:06:13 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:06:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25413 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 11:06:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 11:06:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sL6G-0005wj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:05:44 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sL6B-0005wa-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:05:39 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.40]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030310110538.DALC22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:05:38 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c2e6f4$fdcbdd40$28ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <16d.19b6aa09.2b9d2b99@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:02:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: QRSS March 9th Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Thanks for the field strength report Markus. The antenna
"put a leg out of bed"  about that time and I had to lower it to make repairs, so that was probably my test call.
Lots of activity noted between 1000z and 1200z but I was tied up newsreading for an hour or so and unable to take advantage.
 
73,
 
Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10403 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 10:43:41 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 10:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26024 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 10:43:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 10:43:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sKkE-0005kU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:42:58 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.171] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sKk8-0005kL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:42:53 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.162] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18sKk3-0001Qi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:42:47 +0100 Received: from [80.130.90.137] (helo=FABIAN.diolog.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18sKk0-0002Tk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:42:46 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030310103912.00ca5670@pop.1und1.com> X-Sender: pt8152986-6@pop.1und1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:41:58 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Fabian Kurz" In-reply-to: <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: real-time 137,7 khz monitor running now.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Dave, it was running until about 22:00 UTC only, so I guess you have tried to log-in to late .. Unfortunately I don't have a dedicated receiver and computer for that, so it's only running temporarily (and with an changing IP...) 73, Fabian dj1yfk At 23:11 09.03.2003 +0000, you wrote: >Fabian. > >I just get page not found....? > >Dave. G3YXM > >------------------------------------------- > >Hello group, > >you can see my ARGO-Screen in real time at > > > >http://80.130.79.176:5800/ > > >password: 136khz (all lower case) > > >73, Fabian dj1yfk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11824 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 09:15:51 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 09:15:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12632 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 09:15:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 09:15:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sJJp-0005Fo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:11:37 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sJJj-0005Ff-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:11:32 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h2A9BQd16466 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:11:26 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h2A9BKRH015276 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:11:20 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:11:21 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED62@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:11:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LF-ers... Again a nice trip to my second QTH. We have worked ONLY CW under the calls OM2TW and OM2KM. Worked DK7SU, DJ2LF, YU7AR, S57A, G3LDO (for the first time), HA6PX, SM1LCA and OZ1KMR. We did some tests with G3LNP loop. I'm very sorry to Jose EA1PX, Brian CT1DRP, Ian MI0AYZ and all LF-ers from over the pond - we were NOT QRV on QRSS due to a software problem. Normaly I'm using my LF station on QRSS at home with QRS 3.17 under Win98. In the second QTH I have an notebook with W2k and just around 2200Z I find out, that QRS doesn't work with W2k on the parallel port. I had a skeds with Jose, Brian and Ian and want to try another T/A test - for the first time from my second QTH. I was sad...therfore we were NOT on QRSS....so maybe another time. 73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28526 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 02:52:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 02:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14440 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Mar 2003 02:52:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 02:52:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sDOP-0004bH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:51:57 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.25] (helo=dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sDOK-0004b8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:51:52 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 53263080 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:50:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2e6b0$031a8f20$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:51:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: CT1DRP DFCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Looks like Brian got the DFCW running. Good signal at 0250. Captures overnight at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21356 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 23:33:29 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 23:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 20366 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 23:33:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 23:33:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sAHs-0004An-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:33:00 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sAHn-0004Ae-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:32:55 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h29NWn831031 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:32:49 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:34:22 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: Re: real-time 137,7 khz monitor running now.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Me to. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pick Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: real-time 137,7 khz monitor running now.. Fabian. I just get page not found....? Dave. G3YXM ------------------------------------------- Hello group, you can see my ARGO-Screen in real time at http://80.130.79.176:5800/ password: 136khz (all lower case) 73, Fabian dj1yfk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4472 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 23:14:24 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 23:14:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16154 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 23:14:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 23:14:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s9vp-00044a-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:10:13 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s9vk-00044R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:10:08 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18s9vk-0000af-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: <006901c2e691$2c40dd10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:11:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: real-time 137,7 khz monitor running now.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0tests=NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,REFERENCES,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Fabian. I just get page not found....? Dave. G3YXM ------------------------------------------- Hello group, you can see my ARGO-Screen in real time at http://80.130.79.176:5800/ password: 136khz (all lower case) 73, Fabian dj1yfk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25283 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 20:14:34 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 20:14:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21606 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 20:14:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 20:14:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s7B9-0003lJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:13:51 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.186] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s7B4-0003l8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:13:46 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18s7B4-0001XS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:13:46 +0100 Received: from [80.130.79.176] (helo=FABIAN.diolog.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18s7B3-0008N4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:13:45 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030309200933.00cfeb60@pop.1und1.com> X-Sender: pt8152986-6@pop.1und1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:13:10 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Fabian Kurz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: real-time 137,7 khz monitor running now.. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_FACE_ODD,HTML_MESSAGE, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,WEIRD_PORTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello group,

you can see my ARGO-Screen in real time at 


http://80.130.79.176:5800/
password: 136khz (all lower case)


73, Fabian dj1yfk
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32422 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 19:28:32 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 19:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9497 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 19:28:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 19:28:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s6Sa-0003dX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:27:48 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s6SV-0003dO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:27:43 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.203]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA32018 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c2e671$f5da1bc0$cc28730a@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2e638$03efcf00$cc28730a@direcpc.com> <001601c2e63f$59906a80$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:27:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 137 overnite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dave, MP is Mitch Powell and he is in London , Ontario...EN93JA..He has recently put some antennas on the 137 frequency..Not sure all the details of his setup but he sure has a big signal here in Maryland. de Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: LF: Re: 137 overnite > Lloyd. > > Tell us more about this "MP" beacon. What power, location etc? Are we likely > to see it here? I could leave the screen shots running overnight if it was > possible but any loud locals would kill the receiver! > > Dave Pick > G3YXM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lloyd chastant" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:32 PM > Subject: LF: 137 overnite > > > > Here are three captures from the overnite activity on 137 in > > Maryland-FM19MH- > > MP ,of course, was overwhelming....CT1DRP and later G3AQC came through > from > > about 0400z t0 0700z > > > > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8.jpg > > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8a.jpg > > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8b.jpg > > > > de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5598 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 19:13:53 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 19:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 2526 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 19:13:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 19:13:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s6Du-0003Y4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:12:38 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s6Dp-0003Xv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:12:33 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.205.133]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030309191232.VAKS22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:12:32 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e66f$c5bf4480$85cdfc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:11:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: YU/DISTANCE Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I make the distance from my QTH to YU7AR 1728 km, Teo is always a good OOO copy here on my 90 metre loop which is not orientated in his direction !!! On the 120 ft vertical he burns a hole in my screen !!
I am probably the greatest distance in G from him, but he is seen here frequently when I happen to be watching/listening.
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 350 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 15:08:52 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 15:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 12555 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 15:08:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 15:08:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s2PE-0002zX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:08:04 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s2P9-0002zM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:07:59 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.125]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030309150759.JMFO2099.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:07:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2e64d$9acd20c0$7de5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:01:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: YU7AR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    CQ YU7AR at 1456utc/09/03/03  QRS active now, good strong signal on 137.7 khz OOO. 
Lots of other acty from all over EU and G this morning. Best dx YU7AR
73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO94SH
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13527 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 13:24:58 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 13:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1696 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 13:24:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 13:24:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18s0mu-0002if-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:24:24 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18s0mq-0002iW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:24:20 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18s0mp-0001HU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:24:19 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2e63f$59906a80$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2e638$03efcf00$cc28730a@direcpc.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137 overnite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Lloyd. Tell us more about this "MP" beacon. What power, location etc? Are we likely to see it here? I could leave the screen shots running overnight if it was possible but any loud locals would kill the receiver! Dave Pick G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lloyd chastant" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: LF: 137 overnite > Here are three captures from the overnite activity on 137 in > Maryland-FM19MH- > MP ,of course, was overwhelming....CT1DRP and later G3AQC came through from > about 0400z t0 0700z > > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8.jpg > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8a.jpg > www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8b.jpg > > de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19856 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 12:37:54 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 12:37:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9985 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 12:37:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 12:37:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rzz9-0002Yh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 12:32:59 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rzz4-0002YY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 12:32:54 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.75]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA12645; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:32:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c2e638$03efcf00$cc28730a@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:32:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137 overnite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Here are three captures from the overnite activity on 137 in Maryland-FM19MH- MP ,of course, was overwhelming....CT1DRP and later G3AQC came through from about 0400z t0 0700z www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8.jpg www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8a.jpg www.geocities.com/lacwman/137mar8b.jpg de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10157 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 02:09:14 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 02:09:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6654 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 02:09:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 02:09:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rqEs-00005e-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:08:34 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.14] (helo=dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rqEo-00005V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 02:08:30 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 85270591 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <003101c2e5e0$d6c895e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <129.24f16499.2b9bed17@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 02:08:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Markus, Are you sending DFCW on 773.2/773.3? Am seeing something there, but can't quite figure it out. http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15568 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 01:05:35 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 01:05:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19078 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Mar 2003 01:05:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 01:05:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rpFT-0008Nf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:05:07 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.163] (helo=imo-m08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rpFO-0008NR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:05:02 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.129.24f16499 (2612) for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <129.24f16499.2b9bed17@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:04:23 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAMEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Probably yes, considering frequency, signal strength and direction of arrival.
Markus, DF6NM

As of 0030, I am reading a continuous carrier on Brian's normal frequency.
Is that him?

John Andrews
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8194 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 00:36:42 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 00:36:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 24109 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 00:36:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 00:36:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rok1-0008H1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 00:32:37 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.22] (helo=dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rojw-0008Gs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 00:32:32 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 98428635 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:32:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c2e5d3$6ee8b5c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c2e591$404b71e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 00:32:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: CT1DRP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false As of 0030, I am reading a continuous carrier on Brian's normal frequency. Is that him? John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9243 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 16:40:10 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 16:40:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3475 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 16:40:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 16:40:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rhM6-0007Qe-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:39:26 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rhM1-0007QV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:39:21 +0000 Received: from modem-37.bregor.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.142.165] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18rhM0-0006jq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:39:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2e591$404b71e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A Propagation. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Joe and Jay for the reports,and John for the capture.I'm having trouble with the timing on the computer that runs QRS hence the problem with the C and G. I will try to sort it out. 0745 of course corresponds to full daylight here.All being well I will be on again in the morning. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11101 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 16:01:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 16:01:31 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8448 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 16:01:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 16:01:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rgkd-0007Ij-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:00:43 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rgkZ-0007IE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:00:39 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HBF00GLQTS4N8@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:00:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:53:51 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: 'Argo' captures, 'MP' and tonight. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mitch, and group, 'Argo' capturing refreshing every minute is on at w3eee.com. I've left a cross-hairs on your frequency in case you need to do some tweaking. Will leave the capturing up for tonight, too, looking for the all-star cast. Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21163 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 14:11:18 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 14:11:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16010 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 14:11:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 14:11:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rf21-00074A-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 14:10:33 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.21] (helo=dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rf1r-00073l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 14:10:23 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 54566291 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2e57c$84b8bc80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c2e551$b9001fe0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:10:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Propagation Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040706080503040809040906" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_30_40,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10, HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040706080503040809040906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Laurie,
 
You were visible from the start until a complete fade out at 0745. The only other signal seen was VE3OT's "MP" on 137,772.88. I've been meaning to comment that the G3AQC message has a very short space between the end of the "C" and the start of the "G." This results in a long dash on an Argo screen. See below:
 
 
John Andrews
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11664 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 13:21:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 13:21:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 24423 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Mar 2003 13:21:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 13:21:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18reFS-0006vP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:20:22 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18reFN-0006vG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:20:17 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.226.54] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (hrfr-sh26-port54.snet.net [204.60.226.54]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h28DK8dg004991 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:20:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E69EE88.BC59D7CF@snet.net> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 08:22:16 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: T/A Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie Good copy last night here in CT. Mitch If that's your signal at 137772.87 you might want to consider slowing down to QRSS60 so we can have a better look at you. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD Joe Craig wrote: > Laurie, > > You were very clear here. > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Laurie Mayhead wrote: > > > The Kp index was low last night so I transmitted from 0415 to 0830 on > > 137,774.4. If anyone was watching T/A, I would be interested to recieve > > reports. If the index stays low I will transmit again tonight/tomorrow > > morning. > > There was a minor storm on 4/03 so things might be interesting for a day or > > two. > > 73 Laurie G3AQC. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13440 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 11:47:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 11:47:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22583 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 11:47:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 11:47:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rcn2-0006hQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:46:56 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rcmv-0006hH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:46:49 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h28Bki8M007445 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:16:45 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h28Bkidc018818 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:16:44 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h28BkiJ0020502; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:16:44 -0330 (NST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:16:43 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <000b01c2e551$b9001fe0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: T/A Propagation Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.3 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie, You were very clear here. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Laurie Mayhead wrote: > The Kp index was low last night so I transmitted from 0415 to 0830 on > 137,774.4. If anyone was watching T/A, I would be interested to recieve > reports. If the index stays low I will transmit again tonight/tomorrow > morning. > There was a minor storm on 4/03 so things might be interesting for a day or > two. > 73 Laurie G3AQC. > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20414 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 09:09:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 09:09:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23131 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Mar 2003 09:09:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 09:09:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18raG1-0006N9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:04:41 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.18] (helo=cmailm1.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18raFx-0006N0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:04:37 +0000 Received: from modem-205.auriga-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.225.205] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18raFw-0004nt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:04:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2e551$b9001fe0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:02:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/A Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The Kp index was low last night so I transmitted from 0415 to 0830 on 137,774.4. If anyone was watching T/A, I would be interested to recieve reports. If the index stays low I will transmit again tonight/tomorrow morning. There was a minor storm on 4/03 so things might be interesting for a day or two. 73 Laurie G3AQC. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32614 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 22:36:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 22:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 10925 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 22:36:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 22:36:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rQRY-0004tg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:35:56 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.135] (helo=tnetsmtp2.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rQRQ-0004tX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:35:48 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([213.99.200.157]) by tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HBEHFM01.FR5 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c2e4f9$da044de0$9dc863d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:35:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: QRSS Station Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all:
 
Can anyone tell me who is in QSO with OK1DTN now??
 
Tks de José, EA1PX
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20341 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 22:02:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 22:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13999 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 22:02:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 22:02:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rPuX-0004lc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:01:49 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.144] (helo=mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rPuR-0004lT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:01:43 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030307220110.WVGK5653.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:01:10 +1300 Received: from mcalevey ([210.54.64.49]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030307220105.CARL28534.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mcalevey> for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:01:05 +1300 Message-ID: <006001c2e4f5$0b1b63a0$314036d2@mcalevey> From: "McAlevey" To: "rsgb" References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e36c$1797e980$191686d4@erica> <002701c2e36f$2b9ed620$f22865d5@oemcomputer> <006501c2e37c$59e00a60$22e862d5@BI57429bankinter> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:00:24 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: CT1DRP 5th March Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090706070206010404060908" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090706070206010404060908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some similar effect appeared in July 2001on the reception of ZL6QH by Rick Warnett in Papua New Guinea (4400 km). 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invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 20:46:18 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:46:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 5350 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 20:46:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:46:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rOiT-0004XU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:45:17 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rOiK-0004XL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:45:08 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.136]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030307204507.RLS27609.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:45:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2e4ea$5eaef640$88e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:43:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: YU7AR Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
YU7AR good signal on 137.7 khz QRS - 07/03/03- 2012 UTC calling CQ
No other signals heard or seen at this time.
de G3KEV-IO94SH/Scarborough
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27633 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 20:23:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:23:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 18171 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 20:23:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:23:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rOJt-0004Pq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:19:53 +0000 Received: from [66.27.141.37] (helo=momsnu1) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rOJn-0004Ph-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:19:48 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.12] by momsnu1 (ArGoSoft Mail Server for Windows NT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.5)); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:19:16 -0800 Message-ID: <00c801c2e4e6$d7862920$0c00a8c0@home> From: "DTX" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:19:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TECH: radio frequency designer's tool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Either http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii/tools/tools.htm to get it directly, or strip off the tools stuff and just go to site and see all the other stuff as well. Gary WA6DTX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudio Pozzi" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: LF: TECH: radio frequency designer's tool > HI all. > > In my web site now you can download "The radio frequency designer's tool". > It is a Microsoft Excel (and Open Office 1.0 - of course -) spreadsheet > for RF circuit design. You can compute inductance and number of turns for many > Amidon toroid cores, LC resonant circuits, Xl and Xc reactance, broad band > transformers. > > http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii/tools.htm > > Please write me for any mistake. > > 73 de Claudio, ik2pii > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Claudio Pozzi http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii happy Linux user > E-Mail: Claudio Pozzi > Date: 07-Mar-03 Time: 17:30:20 > This message was sent by XFMail > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24691 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 20:17:52 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:17:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21405 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 20:17:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:17:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rOE7-0004N9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:13:55 +0000 Received: from [66.27.141.37] (helo=momsnu1) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rOE2-0004N0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:13:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.12] by momsnu1 (ArGoSoft Mail Server for Windows NT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.5)); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:13:18 -0800 Message-ID: <00bc01c2e4e6$01e82fc0$0c00a8c0@home> From: "DTX" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c2e4ae$5f068360$6507a8c0@Main> <3E68B0C0.7030200@usa.net> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:13:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Condx ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I thought they ALL were Gary WA6DTX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Condx ??? > Alan Melia wrote: > > >Several of your direct addresses are bouncing Rich > >Alan > > > > > There must be something strange on the Internet since about a week... > I have been told by some who sent me messages that usa.net (my provider) > refused some emails directed to me which were routed through mx.mailix.net > > I asked a knowledgeable friend and he told me that that server is part > of the Echelon system..... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32289 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 18:13:15 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 18:13:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18571 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 18:13:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 18:13:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rMKU-00040k-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:12:22 +0000 Received: from [209.226.175.55] (helo=tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rMKM-00040b-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:12:14 +0000 Received: from lsk.sympatico.ca ([209.226.189.41]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030307181210.IVMK8228.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@lsk.sympatico.ca> for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:12:10 -0500 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030307130748.02bebcf0@pop2.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1aemm59@pop2.sympatico.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:12:02 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Larry Kayser" In-reply-to: <003701c2e4ae$5f068360$6507a8c0@Main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Internet Conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Gentlemen: The Internet seems to be developing a serious case of "sunspotitus". I have been unable to exchange emails with several European areas, specifically Norway and Sweden, over the last few days. It seems to come and go at times but the best word to describe the malady might be a an "Overdose of Fingerspotitus"...... Larry VA3LK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16589 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 17:32:06 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 17:32:06 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19721 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 17:32:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rLgy-0003r9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:31:32 +0000 Received: from [195.130.225.153] (helo=mail.tiscali.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rLgt-0003qh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:31:27 +0000 Received: from orion.pii.net (62.10.20.156) by mail.tiscali.it (6.5.032) id 3E66202C00144F32 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:30:41 +0100 Received: (from clapo@localhost) by orion.pii.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00267 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:36:50 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:36:50 +0100 (CET) From: "Claudio Pozzi" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: TECH: radio frequency designer's tool X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false HI all. In my web site now you can download "The radio frequency designer's tool". It is a Microsoft Excel (and Open Office 1.0 - of course -) spreadsheet for RF circuit design. You can compute inductance and number of turns for many Amidon toroid cores, LC resonant circuits, Xl and Xc reactance, broad band transformers. http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii/tools.htm Please write me for any mistake. 73 de Claudio, ik2pii ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudio Pozzi http://www.qsl.net/ik2pii happy Linux user E-Mail: Claudio Pozzi Date: 07-Mar-03 Time: 17:30:20 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17506 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 17:17:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 17:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 16895 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 17:17:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 17:17:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rLS7-0003lX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:16:11 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rLRy-0003lO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:16:02 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18rKQO-0002iV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:10:20 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18rKQM-0005Jh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:10:18 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030307152021.00a5d568@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:10:13 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED5E@btss103a.swh.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Preamplifier...G3LNP loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 13:42 07/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi LF-ers... > >Just a question for any user of the G3LNP loop (Radcom 99). I replaced >2N3819 (not available in Slovakia) fets with BF245. The current of the >complete preamplifier is only 10mA with 6V on drains of fets and 13V on NPN >TR3/TR4. I'm not sure if it's enough. > >73 de Rich OM2TW The FET bias sounds OK, but there is a flaw in the design of the G3LNP preamp - with the biasing scheme used, only one of the output NPN transistors will be biased "on", depending on which FET has the higher drain voltage. This will lead to increased distortion. The solution is to: -Remove the 1kohm/1uF between the output transformer centre tap and ground (C4 and R5 in the LF experimenters handbook), and ground the centre tap directly. - Add 2kohm resistors in parallel with 0.1uF capacitors in series with the emitters of each output transistor and the transformer terminals. The 2 output transistors are now independently biased, so small differences in FET characteristics will only slightly unbalance the output stage. The output stage current will be quite low, about 3mA in each transistor, which will lead to distortion products if large signals are present at the output; reducing the 2kohm resistors will increase the bias current. 470ohms will give about 12mA per device, which would increase the available output roughly 12dB before distortion occurs. The drain voltage of the FETs will depend on the individual FET Idss, and the FETS should be selected for drain voltage of about half the supply voltage (Idss ~ 3mA), so 6V sounds about right. The collector voltage on the NPN output devices will be equal to the supply voltage. The emitter voltages should be about 0.6 - 0.7V less than the drain voltages. Hope this makes sense... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18339 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 14:47:31 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 14:47:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8497 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 14:47:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 14:47:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rJ7M-0003JM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:46:36 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.113] (helo=cmsrelay04.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rJ7H-0003JD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:46:31 +0000 Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.136) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 14:46:20 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.70] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 427HcgoUs0294M36; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:46:18 GMT Message-ID: <3E68B0C0.7030200@usa.net> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 15:46:24 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003701c2e4ae$5f068360$6507a8c0@Main> Subject: Re: LF: Fw: Condx ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan Melia wrote: >Several of your direct addresses are bouncing Rich >Alan > > There must be something strange on the Internet since about a week... I have been told by some who sent me messages that usa.net (my provider) refused some emails directed to me which were routed through mx.mailix.net I asked a knowledgeable friend and he told me that that server is part of the Echelon system..... 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16445 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 13:38:21 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:38:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 22451 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 13:38:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:38:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rI2w-0002zr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:37:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.10] (helo=public.thorcom.com ident=[OBxNdVBFClZeT9lDudyUh2NOTqBpJ9WS]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rI2q-0002zX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:37:52 +0000 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by public.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rI2n-0002UF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:37:51 +0000 Received: from host213-122-13-37.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.13.37] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18rI0X-0006Bw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:35:29 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c2e4ae$5f068360$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:34:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fw: Condx ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Several of your direct addresses are bouncing Rich Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: 07 March 2003 11:00 Subject: Re: Condx ??? > Hi Rich, sadly I think the forecast is not good. There was a minor > geomagnetic storm on the 4th (Kp=5) which has just made itself felt on > conditions. Steve's ( W3EEE ) DCF39 plot last night (6/7th) shows very poor > levels and a high noise level (electric storms). The Kp index showed a value > of 4 on the 5th March and there was another minor storm (Kp=5) on the 6th. > The main effects of the latter will be felt in the LF radio propagation on > around the 9/10th. "Not good omens in the sky " I am afraid Rich. However, > to balance that off, the daytime conditions should be enhanced I think. I do > not have plots from Brian CT1DRP at the moment to confirm it, but these sort > of conditions usually give a boost to signals in daytime from greater than > 700kms.....peaking mid-day at the path centre. > > Also one has to remember that the original crossing of the Atlantic were > done using 3 sec dot mode. Brian is regularly making the crossing in almost > any conditions with 60 sec dot mode, which I make a 13dB advantage. The > accumulated knowledge for forecasting is still "very young" and it is the > exceptional cases that prove most interesting. Making prophesies can be a > self-fulfilling exercise as the young ladies of Delphi no doubt found out. > So it is essential we keep trying in all kinds of conditions. > > Good Luck on your expedition but more important.....have lots of fun!! > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: 07 March 2003 08:38 > Subject: Condx ??? > > > > Hi Alan... > > > > What do you think about the T/A condx on LF during the night at 8/9 march > ??? > > I'll be in my second QTH and will try to cross Atlantic again.... > > > > 73 de Rich OM2TW > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7906 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 13:34:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:34:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 3502 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 13:34:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:34:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rHyy-0002xV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:33:52 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.42] (helo=rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rHys-0002xM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:33:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9861D8FCEC for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A948FC40 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC8F4C0D1 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030307142931.02d4d890@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:33:32 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED5E@btss103a.swh.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Preamplifier...G3LNP loop Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FAILURE_NOTICE_2,HTML_10_20, HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 13:42 7/03/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi LF-ers...

Just a question for any user of the G3LNP loop (Radcom 99). I replaced
2N3819 (not available in Slovakia) fets with BF245. The current of the
complete preamplifier is only 10mA with 6V on drains of fets and 13V on NPN
TR3/TR4. I'm not sure if it's enough.

73 de Rich OM2TW


Hello Richard,

I responded direct to you, but the e-mail was refused :

The original message was received at Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:16:10 +0100
from ns3.swh.sk [192.108.125.37]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<Richard.Gasparik@siemens.com>
(reason: 571 5.0.0 <Richard.Gasparik@siemens.com>... DNS MX mail delivery for siemens.com refused - See https://lte.siemens.net/lte-routing)

I don't know the details about the G3LNP loop but I do have the datasheets of both 2N3819 and BF245 (as PDF's), that might help you to get it working with the BF245's.
If you want me to send the datasheets to you please let me know your e-mail address.

73, Rik  ON7YD


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21926 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 13:05:43 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:05:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 14889 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 13:05:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:05:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rHWy-0002nO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:04:56 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rHWr-0002nF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:04:51 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18rHWr-00051d-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:04:49 +0000 Message-ID: <008501c2e4aa$4ad3e850$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007801c2e4a3$bcfe9bc0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <002d01c2e4a7$f5d45580$3704210a@Hugh> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:05:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Screen shots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hugh. I will if it would be useful. I get bad QRM on Sat and Sun mornings though, afternoons are quieter. The weather here is terrible, lashing rain, wind, static crashes and long bursts of rain static. I'm staying in the shack! Dave G3YXM. > That seems to work fine ! > ... have you got rain in IO92BK .... we have bright sunshine in JO01LE, but > it's windy. > > Are you going to leave your screen-grabber on over the weekend ? > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14186 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:51:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4115 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 12:51:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:51:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rHJB-0002ff-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:50:41 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.219] (helo=netmail01.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rHJ6-0002f6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:50:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 2806 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:50:05 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:50:05 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c2e4a7$f5d45580$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007801c2e4a3$bcfe9bc0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:49:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Screen shots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, That seems to work fine ! ... have you got rain in IO92BK .... we have bright sunshine in JO01LE, but it's windy. I like the Weather site that Ed has found. It shows the bad weather approaching the UK from the west. And could potentially show sources of static crashes. But I think that the picture is of convection rather than thunderstorms (my German isn't very good!). There are other maps on that site that show lightening strikes. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/topkarten/fsbeobl.html and click on "location" under "blitze". Click "weltweit" to get the photo that Ed offered. Are you going to leave your screen-grabber on over the weekend ? 73 Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24238 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23776 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rHBp-0002bK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:43:05 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rHBj-0002b3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:42:59 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h27Cgud24920 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:42:56 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h27CgpQ3008557 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:42:51 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:42:51 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED5E@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:42:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: Preamplifier...G3LNP loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LF-ers... Just a question for any user of the G3LNP loop (Radcom 99). I replaced 2N3819 (not available in Slovakia) fets with BF245. The current of the complete preamplifier is only 10mA with 6V on drains of fets and 13V on NPN TR3/TR4. I'm not sure if it's enough. 73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32622 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:18:28 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:18:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23558 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 12:18:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:18:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rGnX-0002Sb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:17:59 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rGnT-0002SS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:17:55 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18rGnR-0004KT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:17:53 +0000 Message-ID: <007801c2e4a3$bcfe9bc0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:19:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Screen shots Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Dear all.
 
Just testing an automated screen-shot posting thingy.
At present its grabbing the QRSS part of the band every 15 mins.
Any comments welcome.
 
Dave G3YXM.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6788 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:08:24 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27279 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 12:08:23 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:08:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rGdv-0002K1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:08:03 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rGdp-0002Js-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:07:57 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18rGdI-0002QB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:07:24 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18rGdG-0000Ed-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:07:22 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030307112221.00afb4f0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:03:32 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF broadband QRN?/overnight conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear John, LF Group, Saw very good signals from CT1DRP last night between 2100 - 2300, which could easily have been copied at QRSS3, and which were often weakly audible - I think this is the first time I have actually heard Brian's signals. I find almost any mains electrical appliance with any electronics in it is a potential source of severe interference at LF. Things in "standby" mode can often generate more noise than when they are operating, so the only way to be sure if something is a noise source is to pull the mains plug out. Even if I switch off the mains supply to the house completely, the noise level is not greatly reduced, presumably due to common-mode signals from some distance away propagating along the mains earth wire. Strangely, my previous QTH in North London was almost totally free of mains noise. Any antenna close to the house will pick up noise from the house wiring; quite severely at 5m distance, and still annoying at 10m. Since my TX antenna has to come right up to the house to use the available space effectively, it is always noisy on receive. This means I have to resort to separate receive antennas to get reasonable reception, which tend to cluster at the bottom of the garden. Even then, there seem to be relatively distant noise sources which can prove sporadically troublesome. Apart from a few trials, I think the wide-area PLT schemes are not yet "legal" due to their requirement to push high levels of signal into the mains cabling in order to overcome the high intrinsic noise levels. For this reason, If they do become generally used, they are bound to make the mains noise situation worse. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26692 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:05:31 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:05:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 7473 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 12:05:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:05:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rGae-0002Ik-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:04:40 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.12] (helo=dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rGaZ-0002Ib-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:04:35 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 60047058 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 07:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01c2e4a1$c6f97520$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2e3c7$7a13a4e0$fcd0fc3e@ian> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:04:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 7 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian was visible with a choppy signal all night, fading out around 0715. I think the noise level stayed fairly high during that period. No other signals could be ID'd, though some traces were visible. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30217 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 11:08:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 11:08:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 23578 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 11:08:19 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 11:08:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rFdj-00024B-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:03:47 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rFde-000242-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:03:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 13398 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 12:21:09 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 12:21:09 +0300 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:03:07 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <132789176475.20030307140307@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: pics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IPversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group! impressive pics http://129.13.102.67/wz/pics/weltlight.html 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16454 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 00:43:56 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:43:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 14961 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 00:43:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:43:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r5xG-0000aS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:43:18 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.18] (helo=mx08.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r5xA-0000a0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:43:12 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 49732701 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c2e443$4d096bc0$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:48:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: TA 7 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurence, > my web page is up - its will be slower to load but hope you can see it? Nope. I get the same advertising that Alberto did (at 0040Z) John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13099 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 00:22:46 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:22:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8962 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Mar 2003 00:22:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:22:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r5cv-0000SX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:22:17 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r5cq-0000SO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:22:12 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h270MBGf027507 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:22:11 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:22:09 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29398 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:22:08 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:22:07 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/06/2003 06:22:09 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 7 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false John - thats good news - my web page is up - its will be slower to load but hope you can see it? I think Alberto looked when I was sorting the port permissions out (which I still am!) 73 Laurence www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 677 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 00:09:48 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:09:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 12825 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 00:09:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 00:09:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r5PN-0000NF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:08:17 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.13] (helo=dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r5PI-0000N6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:08:12 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 98973235 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c2e43e$68ed90a0$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:13:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 7 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false As of 0000, Brian is coming in pretty well through the static crashes. Conditions should improve here overnight as a storm moves rapidly away. Captures at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9016 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 20:18:01 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 20:18:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2172 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 20:17:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 20:17:55 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r1ny-000857-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:17:26 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.2] (helo=cmsrelay05.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r1ns-00084R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:17:21 +0000 Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.136) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 20:17:09 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.15] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 966HcFuq70143M36; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:16:58 GMT Message-ID: <3E67ACBD.80800@usa.net> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:17:01 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: captures Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010706080806010009080703" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-16.2 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_60_70,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_02, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UAversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010706080806010009080703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laurence J Howell wrote:
In the experimental stage....  Im loading "real time" Argos jpegs on
http://www.kl1x.com
???? What I get going there is the following :



73  Alberto  I2PHD

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20:16:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 20:16:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r1lW-00082i-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:14:54 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.185] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r1lR-00082S-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:14:49 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18r1lR-0006rw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:14:49 +0100 Received: from [217.86.77.70] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18r1lQ-0008Rw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:14:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c2e41c$ff227260$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002001c2e406$441ea170$fe78a8c0@W1KW> <002b01c2e40f$5fcb0c20$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:14:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, I am not talking about poweline communication as such, but the devices I saw were kind of small powerline LAN modems for point-to-point communication within houses, and I am sure those can be pretty nasty if they are getting popular ... Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Pick" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF broadband QRN? > > Geri. > > It's already trialling in Crieff and Campeltown (central Scotland). I don't > think it'll be radiating as far as John's QTH though! > My ADSL via telephone wires causes no problem on any band. > If there are 50 or 100Hz components it's most likely a PSU. > > http://www.hydro.co.uk/broadband/ > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2754203.stm > > Dave > G3YXM > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > in a computer-magazine saw a new kind of cable-less modems that work > through > > the regular power line. No idea on which frequencies those devices > operate, > > hopefully not on 73 or 136 kHz! > > > > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John W Gould" > > To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:02 PM > > Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? > > > > > > > > > > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times > a > > > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB > below > > > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a > mains > > > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this > in > > > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > > > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It > > seems > > > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band > (but > > > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > > > > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV > underground > > > cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much > > > more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I > would > > > have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced > overhead > > > telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have > > thought > > > that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be > sufficient > > to > > > stop low-level signaling causing problems. > > > > > > I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase > near > > to > > > my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause > problems, > > or > > > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > > > cabling, etc. > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22509 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 18:40:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:40:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 18795 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 18:40:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:40:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r0HM-0007eS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:39:40 +0000 Received: from [130.244.199.132] (helo=fep04-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r0HH-0007eJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:39:36 +0000 Received: from kent1 ([213.101.101.81]) by fep04-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030306183933.UREM24060.fep04-svc.swip.net@kent1> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:39:33 +0100 From: "Kent Svensson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:39:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <002b01c2e40f$5fcb0c20$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Subject: LF: unsuscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.2 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]För Dave Pick Skickat: den 6 mars 2003 19:37 Till: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Ämne: LF: Re: Re: LF broadband QRN? Geri. It's already trialling in Crieff and Campeltown (central Scotland). I don't think it'll be radiating as far as John's QTH though! My ADSL via telephone wires causes no problem on any band. If there are 50 or 100Hz components it's most likely a PSU. http://www.hydro.co.uk/broadband/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2754203.stm Dave G3YXM > Hello John, > > in a computer-magazine saw a new kind of cable-less modems that work through > the regular power line. No idea on which frequencies those devices operate, > hopefully not on 73 or 136 kHz! > > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W Gould" > To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:02 PM > Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? > > > > > > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a > > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below > > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains > > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in > > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It > seems > > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but > > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground > > cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much > > more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I would > > have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced overhead > > telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have > thought > > that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be sufficient > to > > stop low-level signaling causing problems. > > > > I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase near > to > > my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, > or > > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > > cabling, etc. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18536 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 18:36:54 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:36:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7344 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 18:36:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:36:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18r0Dj-0007cS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:35:55 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r0Dd-0007cJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:35:49 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18r0Dc-0006nW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:35:48 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01c2e40f$5fcb0c20$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002001c2e406$441ea170$fe78a8c0@W1KW> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:36:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Geri. It's already trialling in Crieff and Campeltown (central Scotland). I don't think it'll be radiating as far as John's QTH though! My ADSL via telephone wires causes no problem on any band. If there are 50 or 100Hz components it's most likely a PSU. http://www.hydro.co.uk/broadband/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2754203.stm Dave G3YXM > Hello John, > > in a computer-magazine saw a new kind of cable-less modems that work through > the regular power line. No idea on which frequencies those devices operate, > hopefully not on 73 or 136 kHz! > > Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W Gould" > To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:02 PM > Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? > > > > > > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a > > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below > > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains > > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in > > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It > seems > > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but > > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground > > cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much > > more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I would > > have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced overhead > > telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have > thought > > that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be sufficient > to > > stop low-level signaling causing problems. > > > > I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase near > to > > my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, > or > > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > > cabling, etc. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27707 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 17:32:29 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 17:32:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 89 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 17:32:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 17:32:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qzE3-0007JS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:32:11 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.185] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qzDy-0007JJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:32:07 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qzDy-0005Us-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:32:06 +0100 Received: from [62.158.74.111] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qzDx-0006iS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:32:05 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c2e406$441ea170$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:31:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello John, in a computer-magazine saw a new kind of cable-less modems that work through the regular power line. No idea on which frequencies those devices operate, hopefully not on 73 or 136 kHz! Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? > > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It seems > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground > cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much > more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I would > have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced overhead > telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have thought > that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be sufficient to > stop low-level signaling causing problems. > > I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase near to > my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, or > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > cabling, etc. > > Any thoughts? > > 73 John, G3WKL > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4923 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 17:29:53 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 17:29:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18800 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 17:29:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 17:29:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qzAf-0007Hu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:28:41 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qzAa-0007Hl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:28:36 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h26HSZAE009262 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:28:35 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:28:34 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04940 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:28:33 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:28:31 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/06/2003 11:28:33 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF broadband QRN?/overnight conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false My list is probably the same - KL1X's house is a very dark, quiet and inert place during T/A/P tests.... VCR (on its ok, off its noisy from 20-200Khz, common mode) Some TVs in the house when on standby. Flouri tubes (old tubes), House dimmers, Garage door opener control circuitry, induced common mode noise from the pumping station some 500 metres away. Motorola cell phone chargers (how can something so small generate so much wide-band hash 50 meters away!) Touch to go on/.off lamps (appalling). Ac adaptors for IBM thinkpad, in band 137Khz very bad and wide-band hash - I don't get a squeak out of the Dell one, Mains power CD player when playing...Loran....! One 12v/110vac psu using normal 3 pin reg. My wires are some 50 metres away from a lot of the sources but I know a lot of noise is carried "out" by the Heliax feeders - Ive attempted to choke/earth these down where they come into the house but the ground is a bit frozen at the moment, and the wildlife a bit too friendly.. Conditions - Fair to poor overnight, DCF39 peaked early at around 0300Z just after my dusk. Ive taken the web site off for a couple of hours to shut down some more open ports but it will be back this evening my time. The station will probably be running on its own from this evening until the 18th... Laurence KL1X Sunny -2C Beautiful. www.kl1x.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7962 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 16:33:20 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 16:33:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 25954 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 16:33:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 16:33:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qyBx-000735-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:25:57 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qyBs-00072w-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:25:52 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030306162551.RWQ24607.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:25:51 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e3f5$d2ac6000$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:34:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It seems > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground > cable somewhere beneath my garden. > > How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, or > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > cabling, etc. > Any thoughts? > > 73 John, G3WKL I don't have ADSL, but I (and several of my neighbours) have cable modems supplied by NTL running between 128kb and 1Mb. My modem, and the unscreened switch/gateway for my small network are both in the shack and only a couple of metres from the antenna. I do not experience any problems to/from either on LF. My main noise sources are TVs, video recorders and computer games. These seem to be within a few metres of my house. I fixed the QRM from my own TV by using a braid breaker. I have found QRM radiated by power lines (and once a telephone line) whilst out portable, but have not located the source. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30639 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 13:06:06 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 13:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22920 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 13:06:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 13:06:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qv41-0006KO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:05:33 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qv3w-0006Ju-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:05:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 12610 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:39:24 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:39:24 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2e3dd$4d108100$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:38:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John, If you can pick it up on a LW radio, or other portable RX, maybe you could go walk-about with that and track it down. What you describe sounds very much like the sort of buzzy noise I get from Low Energy Light Bulbs. Some of these seem to suddenly start generating a lot of noise when they near the end of their life, and some of them change frequency as they warm up. If someone goes in the bathroom for a pee there's no problem ... but if it's poo I have to wait 'til they've finished. ... sorry to lower the tone of the conversation ! I once had a lot of mains harmonics appear on argo due to a mains hum on the input to the sound card. I'm probably not being a lot of help, but you have my sympathy ... 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? > Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a > day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below > the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains > type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in > the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was > only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It seems > to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but > that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). > > The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground > cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much > more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I would > have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced overhead > telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have thought > that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be sufficient to > stop low-level signaling causing problems. > > I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase near to > my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, or > is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains > cabling, etc. > > Any thoughts? > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11250 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 20095 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 13:00:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18quxP-0006GZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:58:43 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18quxJ-0006GQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:58:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.239.21] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (nrwl-sh5-port21.snet.net [204.60.239.21]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h26CwZdg016878 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:58:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E67460F.6F7B0C3@snet.net> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:58:55 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2e3c7$7a13a4e0$fcd0fc3e@ian> <000301c2e3d7$3b82d920$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 6 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Nothing useful seen overnight. It's very noisy here this morning, so > propagation may not be the issue. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 555 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:06:57 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:06:57 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 247 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:06:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:06:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qu8w-0005zV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:06:34 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qu8r-0005zG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:06:29 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h26C5l8M030848 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:35:55 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h26C5kdc018845 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:35:46 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h26C5kTD020908; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:35:46 -0330 (NST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:35:46 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 6 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false "LDO" was clear this morning. CT1DRP was fuzzy. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5919 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:02:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:02:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6169 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 12:02:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:02:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qu4K-0005x9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:01:48 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qu49-0005wq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:01:41 +0000 Received: from host213-122-43-157.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.43.157] helo=presario-1920) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qu45-0004Kf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:01:33 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:02:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: LF broadband QRN? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0tests=MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Since the 73kHz tests on Tuesday I have been monitoring at several times a day and find a consistent and steady noise-level that is about 20dB below the signal at 138.8kHz, and about 6dB below the one at 75kHz. Its a mains type of buzz, beating at times with itself. Like most I have had this in the past and put it down to RFI from switched-mode PSUs, however, it was only sporadic in the past so I am wondering if it's something new. It seems to be all the way up the LF band to just below the LW broadcast band (but that cut-off could be a function of my aerial's resonance set at 73kHz). The only thoughts that I have is ADSL or signalling on the HV underground cable somewhere beneath my garden. Certainly, ADSL will have become much more used locally since I last did an serious listening on LF, but I would have thought the radiation would be fairly low from the balanced overhead telephone lines that are at least 200m from my aerial. I would have thought that the shielding around underground HV mains cables would be sufficient to stop low-level signaling causing problems. I can't see a real reason why TV related interfernce should increase near to my home. How far away do TV's etc need to be before they cause problems, or is it more caused by the interference conducting itself along the mains cabling, etc. Any thoughts? 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27798 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 11:55:38 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 11:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10853 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 11:55:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 11:55:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qtxZ-0005s3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:54:49 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.26] (helo=mx16.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qtxT-0005ru-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:54:43 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx16.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 49263027 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 06:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c2e3d7$3b82d920$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2e3c7$7a13a4e0$fcd0fc3e@ian> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:55:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 6 Mar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing useful seen overnight. It's very noisy here this morning, so propagation may not be the issue. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11919 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 10:01:33 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 10:01:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12057 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 10:01:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 10:01:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qsAz-0005P8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:00:33 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qsAu-0005Oz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:00:28 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.252]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030306100027.NSHA12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2e3c7$7a13a4e0$fcd0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:01:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: lf-sked. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Rich, tried to mail this to your nextra address but it was returned. Will be monitoring your activities 8/9 March and suggest sked at 2300 during the QRSS period. If not suitable then please suggest an alternative. Also please remember that my setup is "QRP" with only 1A into a 10m.high T, so you will have more difficulty receiving my signal than I will with yours! QRSS10 (at least) will probably be necessary. 73 de, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6263 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 06:03:51 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 06:03:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24391 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 06:03:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 06:03:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qoPv-0004XB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 05:59:43 +0000 Received: from [195.22.0.27] (helo=iceman.esoterica.pt) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qoPq-0004X2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 05:59:38 +0000 Received: from slave-5 (por215.esoterica.pt [195.22.5.215]) by iceman.esoterica.pt (8.12.3/8.11.6) with SMTP id h265oGxt014796; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:50:17 GMT Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030306055838.007eb320@pop.vianw.pt> X-Sender: brian@pop.vianw.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 05:58:38 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: <000701c2e36c$1797e980$191686d4@erica> References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP 5th March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, the story is a long one which includes blue smoke, but not from the transmitter I add quickly. While the DDS box was open I did a change that obviously did not need doing. Don't fix it they say! Thank you for the various pictures. 73, Brian At 23:07 05/03/2003 -0000, g3ldo wrote: >Brians signals very strong tonight but some strange effect >See picture > >Peter G3LDO > >Attachment Converted: "C:\EUDORA\Attach\Brian23000503.jpg" > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15002 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:36:30 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:36:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 18017 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:36:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:36:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qlEp-0003jw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:36:03 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.24] (helo=dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qlEl-0003jg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:35:59 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 80320883 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:35:28 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c2e389$2d759320$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e36c$1797e980$191686d4@erica> <002701c2e36f$2b9ed620$f22865d5@oemcomputer> <006501c2e37c$59e00a60$22e862d5@BI57429bankinter> <000d01c2e385$1a20ade0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:36:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: CT1DRP 5th March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Have started to see Brian, but looks mighty strange. Captures at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7791 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:28:05 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11539 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:27:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:27:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ql6V-0003dD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:27:27 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.10] (helo=public.thorcom.com ident=[YUei88ieoXl/+sHH1HeEh6bswwkR9apq]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ql6Q-0003d4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:27:22 +0000 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by public.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ql6P-0000Mb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:27:22 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-49-100.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.49.100] helo=Main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qkwi-00053X-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c2e386$89b5a1a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:17:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: captures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.4 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I hope you got a long drinking straw Laurence !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence J Howell" To: Sent: 06 March 2003 02:06 Subject: LF: captures > > In the experimental stage.... Im loading "real time" Argos jpegs on > http://www.kl1x.com > > - all times are in GMT - Presently Im loading 4 Receive channels in the > 137-137.8 region. I may elect to reduce the number of visible screens as > your load times may be excessive. The web server is here at the > station..... > > Hopefully a 1000ft beverage going up soon.... > > Laurence KL1X Anchorage, Sunny Windy 40F > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30665 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:16:03 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:16:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 23189 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 02:16:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:16:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qkum-0003SN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:15:20 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qkuh-0003SE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:15:15 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-49-100.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.49.100] helo=Main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qkug-00051U-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:15:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2e386$3e79fce0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:12:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Brain's QRSS sigs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter, Johan, and Jose.....this night-owl thing is catching !! No Its not a ionospheric effect I am getting the same rather odd sigs here. I wonder...... I know Brian has been playing with the driver program and is keen to transmit some GPS locked BPSK.....it looks to me as though he has some phase shift keying on board as well as the QRSS. Maybe he called the wrong program when he started up tonight. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26228 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20132 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qkmc-0003Kb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:06:54 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.14] (helo=dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qkmY-0003K3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:06:50 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 83231960 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:06:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c2e385$1a20ade0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e36c$1797e980$191686d4@erica> <002701c2e36f$2b9ed620$f22865d5@oemcomputer> <006501c2e37c$59e00a60$22e862d5@BI57429bankinter> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:07:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: CT1DRP 5th March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing visible here tonight, up to 0200. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26231 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20126 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 02:07:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 02:07:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qkmZ-0003KS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:06:51 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qkmU-0003KG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:06:46 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2626jGf017618 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:06:45 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:06:41 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17106 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:06:39 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:06:38 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/05/2003 08:06:40 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: captures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In the experimental stage.... Im loading "real time" Argos jpegs on http://www.kl1x.com - all times are in GMT - Presently Im loading 4 Receive channels in the 137-137.8 region. I may elect to reduce the number of visible screens as your load times may be excessive. The web server is here at the station..... Hopefully a 1000ft beverage going up soon.... Laurence KL1X Anchorage, Sunny Windy 40F From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9340 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 01:05:57 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 01:05:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24735 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Mar 2003 01:05:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 01:05:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qjom-00036Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:05:04 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.135] (helo=tnetsmtp2.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qjoe-00036N-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:04:56 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([193.153.202.134]) by tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HBAZ0201.QHH for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:04:50 +0100 Message-ID: <006501c2e37c$59e00a60$22e862d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000701c2e36c$1797e980$191686d4@erica> <002701c2e36f$2b9ed620$f22865d5@oemcomputer> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:02:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: CT1DRP 5th March Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070001050200070304000106" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-16.2 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070001050200070304000106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all: Comparison between signals from Brian ( 247 Km away ) and Peter ( 1022 Km ). Strong ionospheric signal at only 247 Km?? 73 de José, EA1PX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan Bodin" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: LF: Re: CT1DRP 5th March Peter G3LDO wrote: > Brians signals very strong tonight but some strange effect > See picture Hmm... 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Looks like X and Y cromosomes... ;-) 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20400 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 23:16:37 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 23:16:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19205 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 23:16:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 23:16:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qi76-0002gG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:15:52 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.135] (helo=tnetmx1.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qi6y-0002ee-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:15:44 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([213.98.232.34]) by tnetmx1.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HBATWZ00.L8W for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:14:59 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01c2e36d$03fc4500$22e862d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:14:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Signal report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all:
 
Strong "O" QRSS10 signals from Reino, OH5UFO-2895 Km, on 137.699 KHz. Readable on 3 sec Argo also with "O".
 
73 de José, EA1PX
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16516 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 23:09:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 23:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8132 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 23:09:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 23:09:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qhzk-0002an-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:08:16 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qhzg-0002ae-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:08:12 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-25.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.25] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qhza-000J3x-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 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5645 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 21:30:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 21:30:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qgN6-0002IS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:24:16 +0000 Received: from [194.134.35.175] (helo=smtp4.wanadoo.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qgN0-0002IJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:24:10 +0000 Received: from savage (unknown [194.134.219.87]) by smtp4.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A93A3EBA9 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:24:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:24:46 +0100 From: "K.Versteeg" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: FoxMail 2.1 [en] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <20030305212403.7A93A3EBA9@smtp4.wanadoo.nl> Subject: Re: Re: LF: HellPhoto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Jim, Geri & Group Thanks for the info, it sure looks impressive. Converting it to Greyscale makes it allmost High-res. Too bad i can only watch 200 Hz while in 3 Sec Qrss mode. Good to see "New Things"...............BESIDES CW ;-) 73 Ko Versteeg, NL9222 [SWL] [Grid: JO22KE - Lat: 52° 12' 15.0"N Long: 04° 51' 40.5"E] ** Digital and Visual Amateur Radio Software ** http://home.wanadoo.nl/nl9222/index.htm From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3747 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 13:41:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 13:41:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27011 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 13:41:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 13:41:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qZ8c-0000rX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:40:50 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qZ8X-0000rO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:40:45 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h25Deid03131 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:40:44 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h25Decit002634 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:40:38 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:40:38 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED48@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.1 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Except of the DX-cluster and E-mail I'll use also ICQ chat...my ICQ number is 109360511. Good luck...enjoy LF ! 73 de Rich OM2TW -----Original Message----- From: Gasparik Richard Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:27 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Weekend acty... Hi LF-ers... I just came back from my "two towers" QTH in Sintava JN88UG. Good information is that my LF antenna isn't stolen. Equipments are ready for our weekend activity. We will use following equipments: TX: MOS FET TX G0MRF 300W RX1: ICOM IC-761 RX2: RFT EKD300 ANT_RX: G3LNP loop ANT_TX: T-Marconi 21m high + 2x36m cat hat We will be mainly on CW !!! Mar 8 - Saturday 12.00 UTC - 22.00 UTC 136.5 +- QRM, CW (QRSS on request or during the lunch, caffee break, dinner, etc) 22.00 UTC - 00.00 UTC 137.7 +- QRM, QRSS (any skeds from CT1DRP, EA1PX, MI0AYZ and others are welcome) Mar 9 - Sunday 00.00 UTC - 02.00 UTC 137.7 +- QRM, QRSS (any skeds from CT1DRP, EA1PX, MI0AYZ and others are welcome) 02.00 UTC - 06.00 UTC 137.774, QRSS60 beacon ("OM2TW") for W and VE 06.00 UTC - 12.00 UTC 136.5 +- QRM, CW (QRSS on request or during the lunch, caffee break, dinner, etc) Of cource We'll be on the internet all the time, so if you want a sked, leave us a message mailto:om2tw@nextra.sk or look for us at the HA6DX DX-cluster . See you on LF... 73 de Rich OM2TW, Milan OM2KM and Milan OM3TWJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2920 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 12:52:59 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 12:52:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16035 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 12:53:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 12:53:00 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qYNU-0000eR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:52:08 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qYNO-0000eI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:52:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.215.22] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (dnbr-sh7-port22.snet.net [204.60.215.22]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h25Cpxta022092 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:52:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E65F300.673098E8@snet.net> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:52:17 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2e2ae$28251160$6507a8c0@Main> <000301c2e312$e099fda0$0200a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 5 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ditto Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > CT1DRP had a solid signal here all night, ending around 0700 UTC. No other > signals were seen. > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6271 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 12:25:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 12:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25192 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 12:25:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 12:25:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qXwR-0000X4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:24:11 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.26] (helo=mx16.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qXwM-0000Wu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:24:06 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johnupstairs) by mx16.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 48582083 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c2e312$e099fda0$0200a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2e2ae$28251160$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:29:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 5 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP had a solid signal here all night, ending around 0700 UTC. No other signals were seen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10375 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 09:31:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 09:31:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23493 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 09:31:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 09:31:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qVBT-0008On-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:27:31 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qVBO-0008Oe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:27:26 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h259RPd19443 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:27:25 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h259RJit005393 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:27:19 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ED43@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:27:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LF-ers... I just came back from my "two towers" QTH in Sintava JN88UG. Good information is that my LF antenna isn't stolen. Equipments are ready for our weekend activity. We will use following equipments: TX: MOS FET TX G0MRF 300W RX1: ICOM IC-761 RX2: RFT EKD300 ANT_RX: G3LNP loop ANT_TX: T-Marconi 21m high + 2x36m cat hat We will be mainly on CW !!! Mar 8 - Saturday 12.00 UTC - 22.00 UTC 136.5 +- QRM, CW (QRSS on request or during the lunch, caffee break, dinner, etc) 22.00 UTC - 00.00 UTC 137.7 +- QRM, QRSS (any skeds from CT1DRP, EA1PX, MI0AYZ and others are welcome) Mar 9 - Sunday 00.00 UTC - 02.00 UTC 137.7 +- QRM, QRSS (any skeds from CT1DRP, EA1PX, MI0AYZ and others are welcome) 02.00 UTC - 06.00 UTC 137.774, QRSS60 beacon ("OM2TW") for W and VE 06.00 UTC - 12.00 UTC 136.5 +- QRM, CW (QRSS on request or during the lunch, caffee break, dinner, etc) Of cource We'll be on the internet all the time, so if you want a sked, leave us a message mailto:om2tw@nextra.sk or look for us at the HA6DX DX-cluster . See you on LF... 73 de Rich OM2TW, Milan OM2KM and Milan OM3TWJ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8631 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 01:40:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 01:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 23476 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 01:40:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 01:40:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qNt9-0007JB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 01:40:07 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.20] (helo=dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qNt5-0007Ix-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 01:40:03 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 81432676 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:39:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c2e2b8$320f0460$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:40:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Evidently, my earlier message didn't post. Brian is coming in very well as of 0130, and captures are refreshed every 15 mins at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19154 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 01:14:12 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 01:14:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3159 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 01:14:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 01:14:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qNQG-0007BF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 01:10:16 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qNQB-0007B6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 01:10:11 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.252.233.25] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (25.233.252.64.snet.net [64.252.233.25]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h251A8ta003332 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:10:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E654EE5.7B87B9D8@snet.net> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:12:05 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 137 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian You're in early tonight and looking good at the moment! Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32298 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 00:29:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 00:29:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5938 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Mar 2003 00:29:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 00:29:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qMll-00070X-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:28:25 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qMlg-00070O-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:28:20 +0000 Received: from host213-122-41-6.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.41.6] helo=Main) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qMlf-000455-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:28:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e2ae$28251160$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:24:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz Web Waterfall on 4th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, well I had an interesting morning watching the 73k stations, and hearing the best S/N hand speed CW I ever heard on 73kHz..... when there was no TV PSU problems. It would seem that there were about 46 waterfall frames downloaded, so someone is using it... even if they are not admitting it. I will run it in future on 136kHz mainly at weekend mornings in future unless there is a burst of activity on a weekday, or someone requests it to be set running for a test (even on 73 k ??!!) Alternatively ARGO screens can be uploaded at greater sensitivity for weak signal tests, again on request. Argo might be better for the next 73k "majik-day" in April, as a relatively small range of frequencies are used. Thanks for the fun Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28134 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 18:59:52 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 9107 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 18:59:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:59:52 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qHdU-0005mK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:59:32 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qHdL-0005m4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:59:23 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18qHdC-0001z9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:59:14 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18qHd2-0005LG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:59:04 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030304185202.00afb380@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:59:02 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <003001c2e27c$f50eb8c0$61eafc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: SLOW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Mal, LF Group, At 18:32 04/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Most acty these days seems to be on QRS/visual and virtually nothing on >normal CW A pity you were not on 73k this morning - you could have had some CW activity then :-( Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25806 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 18:57:47 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16460 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 18:57:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:57:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qHaU-0005jo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:56:26 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qHaS-0005je-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:56:24 +0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h24IuMi02767 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id NAA29229; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:56:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003601c2e281$2c29f140$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003001c2e27c$f50eb8c0$61eafc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:06:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: SLOW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mal, "To date 23 countries worked on normal CW on 136 khz and quite a number xband from other parts of EU plus the USA and Canada from those not transmitting on 136 khz..." I'm curious for our records over here... who has copied your CW signal in the U.S.? John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12459 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 18:37:43 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:37:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 9324 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 18:37:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 18:37:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qHHm-0005d7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:37:06 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qHHY-0005cy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:36:52 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.234.97]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030304183651.JOSL22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:36:51 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c2e27c$f50eb8c0$61eafc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:32:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SLOW Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Most acty these days seems to be on QRS/visual and virtually nothing on normal CW. All the signals that I can see on QRS are perfectly readable on normal CW. Lots of acty over the past weekend all on QRS from all around Europe are readable here aurally. Looks like most understimate their signal potential, these signals are blasting in here from both Eastern and Western EU.
To date 23 countries worked on normal CW on 136 khz and quite a number xband from other parts of EU plus the USA and Canada from those not transmitting on 136 khz,  plus reports from Listeners near and far.
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2814 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 17:51:16 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 17:51:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23956 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 17:50:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 17:50:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qGYH-0005Qx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:50:05 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qGY7-0005Qg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:49:55 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18qGVO-00059q-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:47:06 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18qGRh-0004HQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:43:17 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030304173010.00aff6a8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:43:15 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <20030304163923.21EF574B2A@smtp5.wanadoo.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: HellPhoto Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090205090400000807040406" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090205090400000807040406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 17:40 04/03/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Group.. > >I am looking for the sender of the 4 photo's last night 23:10 >The photo was received while i was out so could not set contrast. Dear Ko, LF Group, Not sure about the mode, but I think it is DF6NM - I also saw these pictures last night while tuning up for 73kHz. Condx were a bit too noisy for this mode at my QTH. I have attached a picture I received a while back in the same mode, when the QRN level was very low, which was quite impressive. I noticed Markus ( if it was him....) sent 2 versions last night - one with a bandwidth of about 50Hz, and the other with BW of about 100Hz - the 50Hz BW was much easier to see, the 100Hz version was only faintly visible in the noise. 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[212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qGB5-0000ud-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:26:07 +0100 Received: from [193.159.73.59] (helo=W1KW) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qGB5-0006Fb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:26:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c2e273$1b12ab80$fe78a8c0@W1KW> From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20030304163923.21EF574B2A@smtp5.wanadoo.nl> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:25:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: HellPhoto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Ko, the only guy I know who sends these little HELL-photographs is Markus, DF6NM. Hard to recognize, but it could be him. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) ... still waiting for good weather to re-erect my antenna ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.Versteeg" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: LF: HellPhoto > > Dear Group.. > > I am looking for the sender of the 4 photo's last night 23:10 > The photo was received while i was out so could not set contrast. > > Need names for the log and a name of the mode that was used :-) > The attached photo is 80% compressed hopefully detailed enough to recognize. > > Regards de Ko, NL9222 > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30337 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 17:16:38 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 17:16:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28211 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 17:16:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 17:16:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qG1K-0005Dd-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:16:02 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qG1B-0005DU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:15:53 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h24HFqAE021089 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:15:52 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:15:50 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09713 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:15:48 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:15:44 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/04/2003 11:15:50 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Overnight conditions were fair/poor with DCF39 peaking 0400-0500 at "s6" - not a lot on. Eu noise band on 137,7746 was visible from 0300-0600Z .LF Bcst from Eu was fair with some Russian and weak Ffrench stations, bbcr4 was better than past days. DCF had Au doppler thru the whole period peaking +- 0.3 Hz. Nothing seen on any channel. Laurence Howell KL1X Anchorage., From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23993 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 16:43:55 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 16:43:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15803 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 16:43:56 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 16:43:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qFS3-000502-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:39:35 +0000 Received: from [194.134.35.176] (helo=smtp5.wanadoo.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qFRy-0004zt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:39:30 +0000 Received: from savage (rot2-p0235.dial.wanadoo.nl [62.234.198.235]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 21EF574B2A for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:39:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:40:17 +0100 From: "K.Versteeg" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: FoxMail 2.1 [en] X-FoxAttach: C:\My Documents\Photo.jpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <20030304163923.21EF574B2A@smtp5.wanadoo.nl> Subject: LF: HellPhoto Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050201000205000107090701" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050201000205000107090701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Group.. I am looking for the sender of the 4 photo's last night 23:10 The photo was received while i was out so could not set contrast. Need names for the log and a name of the mode that was used :-) The attached photo is 80% compressed hopefully detailed enough to recognize. 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(Exim 4.12) id 18qDor-0004dY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:55:01 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qDoj-0004dN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:54:53 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qDoi-0002bo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:54:52 +0000 Message-ID: <004c01c2e25e$2d5eb5a0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:56:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73k this morning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. Only sporadic noise today so I was able to hear most people OK, even G3WKL, nice to hear you for the first time John, sorry about the noise. I worked G3XDV, M0BMU in CW and worked G3AQC last night whilst tuning up. I didn't see anything of Ian I'm afraid. Rugby is still off on 73k at 14:55 although 60k appears to be on. 73 Dave G3YXM. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 724 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 14:14:56 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 14:14:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29660 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 14:14:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 14:14:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qDAp-0004Qo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:13:39 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.45] (helo=mta5-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qDAk-0004Qf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:13:34 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.61]) by mta5-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030304141332.TLN2099.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:13:32 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c2e258$7cecfa60$3dcdfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2e23c$c3b920c0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:14:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73K THIS MORNING Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I was on this morning, listening and watching,but nothing heard on CW. MIke was good M shading into poor O on his 1030z QRSS3 transmission, medium O on the QRSS10 1130z transmission. The main problem is a "wobbly line" that wanders about from 10Hz above to 10HZ below 71.75. I put out CQs on QRSS3 before Mikes two transmissions, first one 5HZ below and second one 5Hz above him. Unfortunately my other appointments were such that I had to leave home just as Mike was finishing his calls so I don't know what happened. Should be around for the evening session and if in shack this afternoon will cq QRSS3 occasionally 71.745 Ian From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16884 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:39:52 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13570 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:39:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:39:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qCdC-00047P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:38:54 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qCd0-000479-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:38:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.199.7] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (ptnm-sh9-port7.snet.net [204.60.199.7]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h24Dcdta005134 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E64AC6C.6F6186E4@snet.net> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:38:53 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Joe Nice quiet night here...loran line strong and clean. Not a trace of any other signals. Maybe "the usuals" had their stations geared up for 72 kHz operations this morning? Jay Joe Craig wrote: > And here. I even did a continuity check of the coax to the loop > to make sure the loop was still there. > > Joe VO1NA > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Jay Rusgrove wrote: > > > Same here. > > > > Jay Rusgrove, W1VD > > > > John Andrews wrote: > > > > > Nothing. > > > > > > John Andrews > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20769 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:35:24 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 2954 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 13:35:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:35:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qCZM-00044e-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:34:56 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qCZE-00044V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:34:49 +0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h24DYii28985 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id IAA26274; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:34:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000601c2e254$3d0eb720$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:44:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Joe, > And here. I even did a continuity check of the coax to the loop > to make sure the loop was still there. That's the high-tech solution. I just looked out the window. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7299 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:32:50 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1041 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 13:32:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:32:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qCWX-00043Q-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:32:01 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.211] (helo=cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qCWR-00043H-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:31:55 +0000 Received: from modem-60.dernhelm.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.154.60] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18qCWQ-0001mG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:31:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2e252$6297b3e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:30:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re.TA 4th March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John,Jay,Joe,also Dex and Lawrence, I have not transmitted for two nights since the Kp index was too high for my criteria of above average propagation.In fact its now too high for even average results.I will be on again as soon as things look better and hope you chaps will be there. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2054 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:22:02 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:22:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18733 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 13:22:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:22:02 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qCM3-0003xX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:21:11 +0000 Received: from [134.153.2.130] (helo=newman.ucs.mun.ca) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qCLu-0003xK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:21:03 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h24DKs8M014689 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:50:55 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h24DKrdc011416 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:50:53 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3p2/8.12.1/Submit) id h24DKriQ013898; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:50:53 -0330 (NST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:50:53 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <3E64A3B7.29FD4CE@snet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-15.6 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false And here. I even did a continuity check of the coax to the loop to make sure the loop was still there. Joe VO1NA On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Jay Rusgrove wrote: > Same here. > > Jay Rusgrove, W1VD > > John Andrews wrote: > > > Nothing. > > > > John Andrews > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31843 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:03:29 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18931 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 13:03:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 13:03:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qC3L-0003pq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:01:51 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qC3C-0003ph-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:01:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.60.199.7] X-SBCIS-MTA: [mta3.snet.net] Received: from snet.net (ptnm-sh9-port7.snet.net [204.60.199.7]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-mx-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h24D1Tta018659 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E64A3B7.29FD4CE@snet.net> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:01:44 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c2e17c$54dd9fc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001101c2e1d2$ab6fae40$a6c828c3@erica> <000f01c2e244$3838df60$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Same here. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD John Andrews wrote: > Nothing. > > John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8571 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 11:51:18 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 11:51:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22594 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 11:51:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 11:51:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qAvm-0003bG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:49:58 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.26] (helo=mx16.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qAvh-0003b7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:49:53 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx16.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 47878581 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:49:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c2e244$3838df60$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c2e17c$54dd9fc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001101c2e1d2$ab6fae40$a6c828c3@erica> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:50:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: TA 4 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Nothing. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21673 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 10:57:53 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 10:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 9010 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 10:57:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 10:57:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qA6a-0003O2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:57:04 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qA6T-0003Nt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:56:57 +0000 Received: from dial81-131-228-51.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.228.51] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18qA6T-0005qi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:56:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e23c$c3b920c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:56:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73K THIS MORNING Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I ran my web Waterfall from about 0930z. Good signals from Dave G3YXM (569), Jim M0BMU(579) and Laurie G3AQC(569). Mike G3XDV just not quite readable here in the noise but "O" on QRSS3. It proves that my problem is not Rugby TX it is Rubshy TV. I could not see anything until just after 0915z when the Breakfast TV finished. Then the "buzz started to build up again around 1030z Thanks all for a good effort, sorry not to see Ian. I am sorry I am still in too much of a ramshackle state to risk a PA into the wire yet on this band. I will keep the waterfallrunning unless the TVI gets intolerable Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3949 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 10:30:51 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 10:30:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 564 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 10:30:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 10:30:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18q9cn-0003EG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:26:17 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q9cf-0003E2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:26:09 +0000 Received: from dial81-131-217-195.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.217.195] helo=presario-1920) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18q9cd-0003Fw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:26:08 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:27:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <000801c2e233$66bbfa40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.2 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks, Dave has also heard me. The problem this end is that I can't hear anyone! I'm trying my old loop and pre-amp now, but all that's doing so far is to re-create the mains harmonics, which are there most of the time for me on LF... I could easily try a xband to 80m if anyone is able, I would listen around 3.520MHz, unless there is a more often used xband frequency. 73 John, G3WKL > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mike.dennison > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 09:50 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz > > > > > Have been transmitting on 72.2kHz but mains harmonic QRM > setting the noise > > floor so not hearing any signals. Will get my loop out of retirement to > see > > if that can improve things. Will call 15 and 45 min past the hour. > > John, G3WKL > > John, > > Jim heard you earlier and called you. Will listen during the day for you. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15153 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 09:52:19 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 09:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17612 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 09:52:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 09:52:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18q93M-00034O-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:49:40 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q935-00034F-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:49:23 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030304094922.JKQJ21970.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:49:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2e233$66bbfa40$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:49:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Have been transmitting on 72.2kHz but mains harmonic QRM setting the noise > floor so not hearing any signals. Will get my loop out of retirement to see > if that can improve things. Will call 15 and 45 min past the hour. > John, G3WKL John, Jim heard you earlier and called you. Will listen during the day for you. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9977 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 09:25:13 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 09:25:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13205 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 09:25:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 09:25:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18q8dl-0002vo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:23:13 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q8dg-0002vf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:23:08 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-38-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.38.220] helo=presario-1920) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18q8df-0000qj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:23:08 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:24:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0tests=MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Have been transmitting on 72.2kHz but mains harmonic QRM setting the noise floor so not hearing any signals. Will get my loop out of retirement to see if that can improve things. Will call 15 and 45 min past the hour. John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16150 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 07:16:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 07:16:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 27082 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Mar 2003 07:16:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 07:16:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18q6bJ-0002Z8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:12:33 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q6bD-0002Yz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:12:27 +0000 Received: from host213-122-137-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.137.181] helo=presario-1920) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18q6bC-0002bC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:12:27 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:13:28 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <006d01c2e19d$a8b2f250$1b00a8c0@dellboy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.2 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false All, I'll tentatively say that I will operate from about on 72.200kHz, though I suppose if I cause QRM I can count it as success! It will be a manual changeover from TX to RX. Won't be on the Internet whilst tests are on-going as no local-loop to the garden shed! Will have my mobile (pop me an e-mail if you need the number). Dick, I won't be attempting QRSS today but would be interested in an reception reports of signals around 72.2kHz 73 John, G3WKL > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 15:07 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz > > > Mike and all. > > The pancake-day tests. > I'll use 71.950 TX. > Listening co-channel (noise permitting) and 136.7 for CW, 137.720 > for QRSS3. > I will call for CW on the hour (xx00) and for QRSS3 on the > half-hour (xx30) > Starting 0900. > Finishing when something catches fire or nobody comes back! > > 73 > Dave > G3YXM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:17 PM > Subject: LF: 73kHz > > > > I am now set up on 73kHz and have 1A into the antenna. I will > beacon this > > evening 1800-1900 in case anyone wants to check their receivers. > > > > Tomorrow, Tuesday, I will call CQ on 71.750kHz on the following > schedule: > > > > 0900 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > > 0930 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > > 1000 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) > > 1030 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > 1100 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > > 1130 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > > > 1800 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) > > 1830 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > 1930 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > > > When replying on 136kHz please allow a few seconds for coil changing. My > > signal is likely to be much weaker than G3YXM, but my QRSS3 has been > > received as far away as DL, HB and I in previous years. > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > > ==================== > > > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1667 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 22:17:15 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 22:17:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6981 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 22:17:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 22:17:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pyBm-0001AE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:13:38 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pyBd-0001A5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:13:29 +0000 Received: from tnt-5-166.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.166] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18pyBc-0002Vh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:13:29 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2e1d2$ab6fae40$a6c828c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c2e17c$54dd9fc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:05:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 3 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John and Joe >I can report similar results to Joe's. The 0600-0700 period was best, though DRP was visible in pieces overnight. Thanks for the reports. I was asked by KL1X to QSY from 137.773.4 because of a noise band on that frequency. As I can only move in 1Hz steps (at the moment) I went to 137.774.4, just below CT1DRP's frequency. CT1DRP is very consistant here, and judging by the stateside captures, is the same over there. Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3335 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 22:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28101 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 22:16:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 22:16:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18py7O-00019I-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:09:06 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18py7F-000199-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:08:57 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.76]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303220856.DEH11888.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:08:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2e1d1$bab60260$4cd1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:08:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73 KHz activity. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In spite of prior engagements with the likes of MOT testers, doctors and "financial advisers" on Tuesday morning (rotten bad planning) I hope to be able to get on air on 73 between 0930 and 1130z, and after 1330z for the rest of the day to improve the QSO score. Antenna current down a bit for some reason, but adequate supplies of fuse wire are available if things get a bit pushed.. Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15587 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 21:01:51 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 21:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19224 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 21:01:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 21:01:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18px39-0000vM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:00:39 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18px2z-0000v4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:00:30 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.141]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030303205957.XCWK1065.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:59:57 +1300 Received: from xtr743187 ([210.54.98.22]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030303205956.GMKM19768.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:59:56 +1300 Message-ID: <004001c2e1c8$7a074200$416336d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> <196171825272.20030212174320@dx.ru> <90468391588.20030303205731@dx.ru> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:58:47 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ed and others LF enthusiasts, Confirming our interest in trying for one-way and two-way contacts on LF with the UA9OC DXpedition. I am in private contact with Ed and we have a provisional schedule for UA9OC and ZL6QH transmission on Friday 14 March and Saturday 15 March. Results of UA9OC beacon tests on 12 March (QRSS120) and 13 March (QRSS60) influence what dot length will be used for UA9OC transmission in an attempted two-way QSO with ZL6QH. ZL6QH will use 137.7887/137.7891 kHz DFCW with 120 second dot length (as per previous beacon tests). It is expected that the transmission schedule for UA9OC and ZL6QH will be posted to the reflector once it has been decided what dot length should be used by ZL9OC. We are hoping to acquire an adequate supply of midnight oil for the occasion. 73, Bob ZL2CA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25037 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 18:49:34 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:49:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7287 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 18:49:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:49:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18puvQ-0000Y1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:44:32 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18puvL-0000Xs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:44:27 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IiQ5o028056 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:44:26 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:44:25 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25022 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:44:23 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:44:21 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/03/2003 12:44:24 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Great stuff Ed - Im going to be in the UK during this period, but Ill leave the system recording in four seperate argo windows, two of which are 137.7725-137.7747 and the other 137.699-701, Ill switch to QRSS120 before I leave. Good Luck! ill be back in Alaksa to look at the results on March 18 but whilst Im away I will run real time receive audio on Echolink in conference mode KL1X of my receive audio passband 137.0 - 139.0 Khz where 0Hz audio is 137.0 and 2Khz is 139Khz. For this week the system is up and running +24 hours and recording 4 seperate windows of Argo - one looking at DCF39, one centered on 137.773 (QRSS60), one on 137.780 for Ve3ot beacon (QRSS60/narrow) and the last on 137.700.(QRSS60) Im still looking for the owner of a signal on 1st March From 2300Z QRSS60 137.7746/7 slight downward drift. Have a nice day/evening/morning Laurence KL1X. BP41 Anchorage Clear 0C From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28479 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 18:04:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25586 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 18:04:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:04:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18puGy-0000Kx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:02:44 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18puGs-0000Ko-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:02:38 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18puGi-0004kn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:02:28 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18puGY-0001P5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303174322.02dd3470@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:02:16 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <000701c2e1a1$3640dd00$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303153954.01f89ec0@POP3.freeler.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, Have not had much chance to do amateur radio in the last few weeks, due to various work deadlines. However, I hope to join in the 73kHz activity tomorrow morning. I'll just slot in as best I can - I will probably be able to listen on 136k for X-band QSOs. at the same time. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24938 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 18:01:31 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:01:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 29823 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 18:01:31 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 18:01:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18puCk-0000Ii-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:58:22 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18puCd-0000IZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:58:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 8600 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 19:15:45 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 19:15:45 +0300 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:57:31 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <90468391588.20030303205731@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Pick" In-reply-to: <196171825272.20030212174320@dx.ru> References: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> <196171825272.20030212174320@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.6 required=5.0tests=HOT_NASTY,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group! #2 (2000z, 3 Mar, 2003) The prospective time-table of DXpedition on days and on hours (time in UTC and our call UA9OC): (at MO94TK Sunset abt 1230, Sunrise abt 0100) MAR 11 1700... I shall be ready to accept somebody from Europe in QRSS10-30 on 137.700 +/- 3Hz After that tests I shall know levels of signals from Eu and local QRM / Loran's noise lines and my RX-setup's opportunities MAR 12 1230 - 1820 beacon QRSS120 137.700 ("UA9OC") 1830 - ... QRSS 137.700 or CW 136.7 MAR 13 1230 - 1820 beacon QRSS60 137.700 ("UA9OC") 1830 - ... QRSS 137.700 or CW 136.7 MAR 14 1230 - 1820 tests for ZL or 1230 - 1700 beacon for EU, OC and NA QRSS120 137.773 ("UA9OC") 1830 - ... QRSS 137.700 or CW 136.7 or 1700 ... MAR 15 1230 - 1820 tests for ZL or 1230 - 1700 beacon for EU, OC and NA QRSS120 137.773 ("UA9OC") 1830 - ... QRSS 137.700 or CW 136.7 or 1700 ... MAR 16 1230 - 1820 tests for ZL or 1230 - 1700 beacon for EU, OC and NA QRSS120 137.773 ("UA9OC") 1230 - ... QRSS 137.700 or CW 136.7 or 1700 ... OFF DXpedition Some updatings is possible - I shall inform in addition QSX (for CW) 136/ 3533/7012 +/- QRM QRSS 3-30 sec dot After consultations with G3AQC (TNX Laurie !), the QSO format is offered such : xnXXX xn - call's prefix, XXX - call's sufix 1 CQ UA9OC K (OC tx) Full callsign 2 xnXXX K (XXX tx) Full callsign 3 xnXXX O K (OC tx) O report to xnXXX 4 OC RO M K (XXX tx) Confirm O and M report to UA9OC 5 XXX RM EE (OC tx) Confirm from 9OC and 9OC sign off. 6 OC EE (XXX tx) xnXXX sign off. During my QSO with xnNNN, another xnYYYs can carry out 2 -> xnYYY K Our double QSO format with xnXXX and xnYYY ---------------------------------- 1 CQ UA9OC K (OC tx full call sign) 2 xnXXX K (XXX tx full call sign) xnYYY K (YYY tx full call sign) 3 xnXXX O xnYYY M K (OC sends reports O XXX and M YYY) 4 OC RO M XXX EE (XXX confirm O and M report for OC and sign off) OC RM O YYY EE (YYY confirm M and O report for OC and sign off) 5 XXX YYY EE (OC signs off) If any part will not be accepted -> NN (= AGAIN or PRT) and other side (OC or XXX or YYY) repeats previous TX-part This would be OK if all stations confirm to format! I shall look in ARGO in the following ranges (rather 137.700): QRSS 3 137,650 .....750 QRSS 10 137,687.5 .....712.5 QRSS 30 137,697 ....703 But it is desirable to call me 137,697....703 in any QRSS If who has only fixed (xtal) freq, the request to me to inform - I shall look him also. I will have access to my e-box ed@dx.ru from MO94TK Dial-Up Internet Also it is possible to inform our Taganrog's team abt UA9OC report to pager via e-mail: e-mail: vesso@crypt.rnd.ru Subject: 29600 In body: text I hope propagation is not move down ;-)) 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30702 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 17:13:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 17:13:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14537 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 17:13:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 17:13:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ptU1-00005U-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:12:09 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.223] (helo=marstons.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ptTk-00005L-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:12:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 24124 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 17:11:16 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO Hugh) (212.159.90.113) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 17:11:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c2e1a7$c9060c40$3704210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:10:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Mica Compression Trimmers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Anyone know where we can get a good price for some surplus Clydon mica compression trimmers ? Max C about 1000pF We've got 5 boxes of 200 here, new, unused. Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8751 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 16:23:09 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 16:23:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8418 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 16:23:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 16:23:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pshU-0008Kv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:22:00 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pshO-0008Km-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:21:54 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303162153.RQXU23190.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:21:53 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2e1a1$3640dd00$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303153954.01f89ec0@POP3.freeler.nl> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:23:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > All times are UTC I presume. > 73, Dick, PA0SE YES. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2789 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24710 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 15:58:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18psJC-0008Aw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:56:54 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18psJ7-0008Ah-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:56:49 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18psJ6-0003OC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:56:48 +0000 Message-ID: <006d01c2e19d$a8b2f250$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001b01c2e18f$a3500ae0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:07:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike and all. The pancake-day tests. I'll use 71.950 TX. Listening co-channel (noise permitting) and 136.7 for CW, 137.720 for QRSS3. I will call for CW on the hour (xx00) and for QRSS3 on the half-hour (xx30) Starting 0900. Finishing when something catches fire or nobody comes back! 73 Dave G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: LF: 73kHz > I am now set up on 73kHz and have 1A into the antenna. I will beacon this > evening 1800-1900 in case anyone wants to check their receivers. > > Tomorrow, Tuesday, I will call CQ on 71.750kHz on the following schedule: > > 0900 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > 0930 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > 1000 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) > 1030 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > 1100 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 > 1130 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > 1800 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) > 1830 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > 1930 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) > > When replying on 136kHz please allow a few seconds for coil changing. My > signal is likely to be much weaker than G3YXM, but my QRSS3 has been > received as far away as DL, HB and I in previous years. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26834 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 14:35:19 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:35:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12069 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 14:35:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:35:19 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pqzb-0007r4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:32:35 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.56] (helo=cmailENV4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pqzV-0007qv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:32:29 +0000 Received: from [62.21.135.12] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pqzS-0006kr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303153954.01f89ec0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:40:35 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <001b01c2e18f$a3500ae0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.7 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Mike,

All times are UTC I presume.

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 14:17 3-3-03 +0000, you wrote:
I am now set up on 73kHz and have 1A into the antenna. I will beacon this
evening 1800-1900 in case anyone wants to check their receivers.

Tomorrow, Tuesday, I will call CQ on 71.750kHz on the following schedule:

0900 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900
0930 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900
1000 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls)
1030 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3)
1100 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900
1130 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3)

1800 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls)
1830 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3)
1930 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3)

When replying on 136kHz please allow a few seconds for coil changing. My
signal is likely to be much weaker than G3YXM, but my QRSS3 has been
received as far away as DL, HB and I in previous years.

Mike, G3XDV
http://www.lf.thersgb.net
====================
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24331 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 14:17:33 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:17:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 2069 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 14:17:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:17:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pqjo-0007jb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:16:16 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pqjc-0007jS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:16:04 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303141602.RQGJ277.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:16:02 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c2e18f$a3500ae0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:17:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I am now set up on 73kHz and have 1A into the antenna. I will beacon this evening 1800-1900 in case anyone wants to check their receivers. Tomorrow, Tuesday, I will call CQ on 71.750kHz on the following schedule: 0900 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 0930 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 1000 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) 1030 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) 1100 CW QSX 71.750, 136.900 1130 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) 1800 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 136.900 (for CW calls) 1830 QRSS3 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) 1930 QRSS10 QSX 71.750, 137.700 (for QRSS3) When replying on 136kHz please allow a few seconds for coil changing. My signal is likely to be much weaker than G3YXM, but my QRSS3 has been received as far away as DL, HB and I in previous years. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14859 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 14:10:50 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:10:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23267 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 14:10:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 14:10:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pqcv-0007dS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:09:09 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pqcq-0007dJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:09:04 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18pqcq-0004ZS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:09:04 +0000 Message-ID: <004d01c2e18e$9b984b10$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303132225.01f8ecb0@POP3.freeler.nl> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:10:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >>After a CQ please listen to calls on 137kHz as well for a possible crossband QSO. I will do that Dick, thanks for the reminder. Now that I have the 136k receiving loop I can listen on both bands together. By the way, today I have a nasty noise on 72kHz which, if it is still there tomorrow, will stop me hearing much. I will have to QSY above or below it if is still on... 73 Dave. G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3540 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 13:55:38 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 13:55:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23659 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 13:55:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 13:55:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pqKu-0007VO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:50:32 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pqKp-0007VF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:50:27 +0000 Received: from snet.net (dnbr-sh7-port168.snet.net [204.60.215.168]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h23DoOcY002514 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E635DAC.84B621D2@snet.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:50:36 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 137 TA 030303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Similar results to John and Joe here in CT. http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137030303A.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137030303B.jpg Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6420 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 12:46:44 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:46:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 17882 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 12:46:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:46:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ppJr-0007D3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:45:23 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ppJm-0007Cu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:45:18 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303124518.XPMR4529.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:45:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e182$f7d7ac60$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303132225.01f8ecb0@POP3.freeler.nl> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:46:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > After a CQ please listen to calls on 137kHz as well for a possible > crossband QSO. > 73, Dick, PA0SE Dick, If you call someone crossband to 73kHz, please give a long call because often a manual change of loading coils is needed. I will post times/modes/frequencies as soon as I get the system retuned and the 73kHz Tx fired up. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4543 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 12:17:26 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:17:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1374 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 12:17:21 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:17:21 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18porx-00071P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:16:33 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.56] (helo=cmailENV4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18porj-00071G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:16:19 +0000 Received: from [62.21.149.190] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pori-00065N-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:16:19 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030303132225.01f8ecb0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:24:16 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <001c01c2e10d$a87b6a00$1b00a8c0@dellboy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.7 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To All from PA0SE,

After a CQ please listen to calls on 137kHz as well for a possible crossband QSO.

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 22:47 2-3-03 +0000, you wrote:
Dear all.

As Alan mentioned in his mail about propagation, Tuesday 4th is the first
Tuesday in March and should see the Rugby TX in the middle of the 73k band
quiet for at least the morning. If anyone is likely to be active I will
spend Monday afternoon running up and down the garden in an effort to get
the aerial tuned up on 72khz!
A warning to early risers; it often doesn't QRT until about 0900.

73
Dave Pick
G3YXM
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28379 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 12:00:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21171 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 12:00:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 12:00:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pob7-0006tW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:59:09 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.12] (helo=dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pob2-0006tH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:59:04 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 57293818 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c2e17c$54dd9fc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:59:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: TA 3 March Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020702080301080708040105" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=5.0tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_40_50,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020702080301080708040105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I can report similar results to Joe's. The 0600-0700 period was best, though DRP was visible in pieces overnight.
 
John A.
 
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rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:23:14 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by newman.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h23BN3vL006738 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:53:09 -0330 (NST) Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (jcraig@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h23BN2Uj013025 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:53:02 -0330 (NST) Received: (from jcraig@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.12.3/8.12.1/Submit) id h23BN2HV013234; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:53:02 -0330 (NST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:53:01 -0330 (NST) From: "Joe Craig" X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: TA 3 March Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.0tests=USER_AGENT_PINEversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP, G3LDO and G3AQC (fsk) were clearly seen last night. The rx antenna is a 5 foot resonant loop with a preamp. DRP was Q5 on a 1 foot indoor loop at one point and has been received consistenty here over the past 2 weeks. 73 Joe VO1NA From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7230 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 09:44:24 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:44:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 21446 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 09:44:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:44:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pmTr-0006M0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:43:31 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pmTk-0006Lr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:43:24 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303094323.OJNK4529.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:43:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2e169$8eaccc20$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:44:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73k and Datong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I wrote: A quick solution to the Datong is a 100-ohm potentiometer across the input with the antenna fed to the slider. You can then optimise the incoming wall of RF. -------------------------- Actually it is probably better to put the antenna across the 100-ohms and connect the Datong to the slider. This is more likely to maintain the Q of the antenna, and hence its selectivity. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7468 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 09:34:18 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:34:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 23709 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 09:34:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:34:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pmK5-0006GO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:33:25 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pmJu-0006GF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:33:14 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303093313.PZYB7184.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2e168$23502ae0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:34:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Don't hold your breath, but I spent yesterday resonating my aerial for 73kHz > so plan to give it a try for my first 73kHz QSO. The effort will have it's > limitations in that I seem to be only able to get about 1/2 amp of aerial > current, the Datong converted is probably overloading and thus intermods > raise the noise floor, and as yet havn't solved the problem of creatiing > side-tone for the keying... > 73 John, G3WKL John, Give it a go! I had several 73kHz contacts with less than 0.3A antenna current and only have 0.9A now. A quick solution to the Datong is a 100-ohm potentiometer across the input with the antenna fed to the slider. You can then optimise the incoming wall of RF. I did this for a long time before getting clever with tuned circuits. Give me a phone call if you want to do some tests. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2589 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 09:11:07 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:11:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19427 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 09:11:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 09:11:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18plwn-00067A-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:09:21 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18plwd-00066u-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:09:11 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303090910.XSCB277.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:09:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c2e164$c6ed12c0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01c2e10d$a87b6a00$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:10:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > As Alan mentioned in his mail about propagation, Tuesday 4th is the first > Tuesday in March and should see the Rugby TX in the middle of the 73k band > quiet for at least the morning. If anyone is likely to be active I will > spend Monday afternoon running up and down the garden in an effort to get > the aerial tuned up on 72khz! I shall try the same. Will confirm on this group. My antenna was slightly damaged in recent gales, so I hope it will stand up to the much higher voltages present at 73k. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6625 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 07:29:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 07:29:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20381 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 07:29:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 07:29:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pkN0-0005oa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:28:18 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pkMv-0005oR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:28:13 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-37-104.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.37.104] helo=presario-1920) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18pkMu-0003KL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:28:12 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:29:14 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <001c01c2e10d$a87b6a00$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Subject: LF: RE: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.2 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXTversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Don't hold your breath, but I spent yesterday resonating my aerial for 73kHz so plan to give it a try for my first 73kHz QSO. The effort will have it's limitations in that I seem to be only able to get about 1/2 amp of aerial current, the Datong converted is probably overloading and thus intermods raise the noise floor, and as yet havn't solved the problem of creatiing side-tone for the keying... 73 John, G3WKL > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Pick > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 22:47 > To: LF Group > Subject: LF: 73khz First Tuesday activity > > > Dear all. > > As Alan mentioned in his mail about propagation, Tuesday 4th is the first > Tuesday in March and should see the Rugby TX in the middle of the 73k band > quiet for at least the morning. If anyone is likely to be active I will > spend Monday afternoon running up and down the garden in an effort to get > the aerial tuned up on 72khz! > A warning to early risers; it often doesn't QRT until about 0900. > > 73 > Dave Pick > G3YXM > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18416 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 06:06:13 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 06:06:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2891 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 06:06:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 06:06:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pj4e-0005cU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:05:16 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pj4Y-0005cL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:05:11 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2365A5o007080 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:05:10 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:05:08 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13767 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:05:07 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:05:06 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/03/2003 12:05:08 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Prop Condx 1/2/3 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Much better more stable conditions over the past couple of days On the T/A path Fades are slow and peak levels from DCF39 were S9 on 2nd at 0300Z. Eastern European signals much better than Western on the bcst bands... Laurence Kl1x Windy and 0C preparing for winter... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32125 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 05:13:02 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 05:13:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16337 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Mar 2003 05:13:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 05:13:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18piC3-0005S1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 05:08:51 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18piBx-0005Rr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 05:08:45 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2358h0d011063 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:08:44 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 23:08:41 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09227 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:08:40 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:08:37 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/02/2003 11:08:41 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: LF: Mar 1-2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030903020805040900070005" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030903020805040900070005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry had to fly off for the weekend but the system captured attached . Any takers - Ill spend some more time on trying to decode... 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host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18pcDk-0001Ds-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:46:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c2e10d$a87b6a00$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: "LF Group" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:47:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 73khz First Tuesday activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all. As Alan mentioned in his mail about propagation, Tuesday 4th is the first Tuesday in March and should see the Rugby TX in the middle of the 73k band quiet for at least the morning. If anyone is likely to be active I will spend Monday afternoon running up and down the garden in an effort to get the aerial tuned up on 72khz! A warning to early risers; it often doesn't QRT until about 0900. 73 Dave Pick G3YXM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18344 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 22:32:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 22:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8892 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Mar 2003 22:32:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 22:32:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pbzS-0004F5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:31:26 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pbzN-0004Ew-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:31:21 +0000 Received: from host213-122-194-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.194.86] helo=Main) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18pbzL-00006Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:31:19 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2e10b$57fd40a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:12:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Prop Condx 2 March Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mike, I think it is the old situation of "hot" electrons precipitated into the D-layer by geomagnetic activity. It is surprising, and shows why you cant take any one indicator as a sign of current conditions. We had a quiet spell in late Dec and early Jan then a short period of Kp of 4, and the night-time conditions "lit-up" with some very strong T/A paths. About the last week in Jan we had a rise of Kp to 5, which killed the good T/A conditions within a few days. Since then a continuous sequence of K=4 (unsettled conditions in NOAA SEC-speak) seem to have kept the ionisation level up in the D-layer. Night time conditions have been poor, despite several crossings which needed 60sec dot mode. Brians daytime plots for the last week in between his night-time T/A activity have shown DCF levels up to 10dB up at mid-day in Porto. I have no current plots as he has lost patience with the poor service from his ADSL supplier and is remounting his site with another ISP. However the last plot I have (which is still in the Propagation report on my web site) showing daytime levels just before the weekend were still 6dB above my "benchmark average" for "normal" daytime paths. The flare and X-ray flux over the last moths has been low. This is as low as I have seen it whilst trying to understand LF propagation. The background was down to B1 last week, with very little flare activity. The biggest flare seen recently was a C2-Class. This actually caused a dip in propagation in the mid morning. It should be noted that although I believe I was seeing continental stations at greater strength than normal, there is no doubt that the existance of Ed this weekend seemed to bring out a lot more activity. I did see some more stations I am sure because the good weather here meant that there was nowhere near as much TV interference, drifting across the screen. I ran the web waterfall for a few hours each morning this weekend, mainly as it had a "plug" in Jeremy Boot's page of Radcom this month and I thought there might be some new to LF who would acess it to see what activity was like. Generally there has been little interest in it so I do not run it continually....I have a dial-up line still. If anyone specifically wants to test using it please contact me by e-mail. I am at home most times, and it seems fairly robust now so it can be left running....ARGO can be uploaded alternatively to Spectran, if anyone wants to try QRP QRSS. Screen refresh is about 3 mins at present. It is not worth doing more often as a 130kB Spectran JPG takes over a minute to load at 50kbs (100secs in congested times). the direct page is http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/periodic.htm for your bookmarks. Slightly better signals may also have due to the reinstallation of my longer (60m top) Marconi. Next tuesday is a majik "1st Tuesday" so does that mean there will be some 73k activity ?? If so I will run the waterfall (that is If I dont manage to get the wire loaded for TX by then!!) Thanks all for an interesting weekend....I hope we can have more like that!! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31579 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 18:41:43 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 18:41:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18232 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 18:41:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 18:41:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pYKP-0003ZY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 18:36:49 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pYKK-0003ZP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 18:36:44 +0000 Received: from mike1 ([80.4.107.45]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030302183643.JBJE21970.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@mike1> for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e0ea$dd072fc0$2602a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:38:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Activity/Conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Very good activity this weekend - at least on QRSS - with several mid and east European stations at good signals. Highlights were: OM2TW, S57A, OK1DTN, IK5ZPV and OH5UFO, all good 'O' signals at over 1000km. Together with G, DL, F, ON and PA, this made 10 countries seen. I had a QSO with a new station for me, DL2HRE. Does Alan have any thoughts about why these mid-distance stations should have been so strong this weekend? Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17276 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 14:55:03 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 14:55:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18716 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Mar 2003 14:55:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 14:55:02 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pUqt-0002uD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:54:07 +0000 Received: from [195.197.172.114] (helo=velli.mail.jippii.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pUqo-0002st-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:54:02 +0000 Received: from tietokone (MMMCCCLXXV.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.47.75]) by velli.mail.jippii.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 084EA23AB64 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:54:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030302165337.00829490@pop.jippii.fi> X-Sender: vaiski1@pop.jippii.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:53:37 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuRpbvY=?=" In-reply-to: <183273186023.20030301144435@dx.ru> References: <112272579230.20030301143428@dx.ru> <3E5F5E54.9BFA08AE@snet.net> <112272579230.20030301143428@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mar 1-2 UA6 Acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Saturday morning, the 1st March, I can see Ed, RU6LA on my recording 2330-0200 UTC but who is on abt 137.771,5 between abt 0000-0130 UTC? 73, Vaino At 14:44 1.3.2003 +0300, you wrote: >EL> Mar 2 0000 - 0430z beacon QRSS60 abt 137.73 ("RU6LA") >SRI.... abt 137.773 > >73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru |---------------------------------------------------------| | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | |---------------------------------------------------------| From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26692 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 12:47:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 12:47:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21366 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Mar 2003 12:47:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 12:47:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pSrG-0002RD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:46:22 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pSr8-0002R4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:46:14 +0000 Received: from snet.net (hrfr-sh22-port213.snet.net [204.60.21.213]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h22Ck1cY004003 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 07:46:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E61FD75.44D0BC1@snet.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:47:49 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 137.773 report 030203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP solid early evening. High static levels began 0230Z and throughout most of the night. Will stay tuned... Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5766 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 10:30:37 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 10:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19653 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Mar 2003 10:30:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 10:30:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pQft-00023H-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:26:29 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pQfo-000238-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:26:24 +0000 Received: from tnt-5-194.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.194] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18pQfm-0003GN-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c2e0a6$b8aaf600$c2c828c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuRpbvY=?=" Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2dc8e$d08a8180$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> <3.0.6.32.20030302115624.00817bc0@pop.jippii.fi> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:29:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Morning 1-2 March 2003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Väinö Thanks for the capture - it wasn't me > This looks interesting but can not interprete > exactly what has been happening - and when, > the time axis (and freq) is not exactly correct. > The time lag of this system is abt 12-15 minutes. > I was out last night and didn't get back until around 0100z I checked the frequency range that you recorded. CT1DRP was on his usual frequency at ,773.5 There was another signal around .772.5 but I didn't get an ID I looked at it again at around 0500z but the keying had ceased and the frequency had developed an unstable downward drift, which looks like the signal in your capture. Could it have been RU6LA? Unfortunately, I forgot to set Argo to capture. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9812 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 23:54:06 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 23:54:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16828 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Mar 2003 23:54:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 23:54:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pGnI-0007kf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:53:28 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.28] (helo=dc-mx18.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pGnD-0007kP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:53:23 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx18.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 45161828 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 18:57:24 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2e04d$cafd59a0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2e030$45f177e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <3E614661.12F369F8@att.net> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 23:53:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Mar 1-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Since DCF39 can't get above the QRN here I don't expect anyone else > will. It's not quiet here, either, Dex. I am seeing fragments of a signal at 137774.55 kHz, though. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14468 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 23:48:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 23:48:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26565 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Mar 2003 23:48:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 23:48:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pGh2-0007h4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:47:00 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pGgx-0007gs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:46:55 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030301234751.HNSQ1975.host3@att.net> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:47:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3E614661.12F369F8@att.net> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:46:41 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2e030$45f177e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: Mar 1-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.8 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Since DCF39 can't get above the QRN here I don't expect anyone else will. http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/dcf39.gif But I am watching. Dex, W4DEX John Andrews wrote: > > I will be monitoring 137.772 - 137.775 tonight, starting at 2200, with > screen captures every 15 minutes at: > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg > > John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8415 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 20:26:26 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 20:26:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 13869 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 20:26:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 20:26:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pDUo-0007Gk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:22:10 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.25] (helo=dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pDUj-0007Gb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:22:05 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 48120832 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:21:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c2e030$45f177e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:22:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Mar 1-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I will be monitoring 137.772 - 137.775 tonight, starting at 2200, with screen captures every 15 minutes at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31418 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 16:14:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 16:14:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10166 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Mar 2003 16:13:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 16:13:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18p9b1-0006iY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:12:19 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9aw-0006iP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:12:14 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h21GCD0d020939 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:12:14 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:12:12 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21575 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:12:10 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 07:12:09 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/01/2003 10:12:11 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 1 March conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IPversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >From here an improvement over yesterday. Eu LF bcst stations stronger but only marginally but short strong noise on 137.7746 from 0400-0430 +-0/2Hz.. DCF39 peaked at "s5" at 0500 but no one seen. No worth waking anyone up?!.Magnetmometer still looks sub storm in content up here. http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi Nice PC1 type signature too. I missed Eds' email till 1600z, sorry. Ive figured out my laptop can run 4 separate "receive" window sessions of Argo with the screen settings at 1600 x 1200 pixel @ 16 bit color quality, without upsetting the jpeg captures. I set the capture time to 50% of what the full screen would take to refresh (at a specific qrss rate) - this combats the occasional blank Argo screen capture Ive seen so I dont lose screen content. Laurence KL1X 0C clear. 1611Z From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17425 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 11:46:05 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 11:46:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2145 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 11:46:06 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 11:46:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18p5Qf-000674-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:45:21 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p5Qa-00066v-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:45:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 43600 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 13:02:49 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 13:02:49 +0300 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:44:35 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <183273186023.20030301144435@dx.ru> To: "Ed Lesnichy" In-reply-to: <112272579230.20030301143428@dx.ru> References: <3E5F5E54.9BFA08AE@snet.net> <112272579230.20030301143428@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Re: Mar 1-2 UA6 Acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false EL> Mar 2 0000 - 0430z beacon QRSS60 abt 137.73 ("RU6LA") SRI.... abt 137.773 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24494 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 11:37:19 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 11:37:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 20904 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Mar 2003 11:37:03 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 11:37:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18p5Gv-00062i-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:35:17 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p5Gp-00062Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:35:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 43380 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 12:52:42 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 12:52:42 +0300 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:34:28 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <112272579230.20030301143428@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <3E5F5E54.9BFA08AE@snet.net> References: <3E5F5E54.9BFA08AE@snet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Mar 1-2 UA6 Acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF_Goup! We are will be active from Machta (KN97LN) Mar 1-2 (1 night) since abt 17z Mar 1 Mar 2 0000 - 0430z beacon QRSS60 abt 137.73 ("RU6LA") Sunrise abt 0410z in KN97LN 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru